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Welcome to the Recovered Attic 
podcast. 

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I'm Dwayne Yardman. 
Frank, That's. 

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Jason Rigby And today this is 
the exciting thing. 

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This is what I'm super excited 
about because we're going to be 

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ultra practical. 
Yes, like these are going to 

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give you steps. 
Like you know, we all, 

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especially our ego mind loves 
steps. 

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We like degrees. 
You talked about that last 

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podcast. 
And directions. 

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And so today we're going to get 
into part four of our materials,

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practical steps, surrender and 
then part five, we're going to 

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get into embracing treatment 
opportunities and community. 

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So don't tune us out. 
You cannot do this alone. 

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And I always like to let people 
know we're not medical 

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professionals. 
No, what we do not all we're 

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doing is just sharing our story 
with you guys and being open and

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vulnerable and maybe we can be a
blessing to you guys and and 

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help you out that that's what 
we're here for. 

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Yes, yes. 
We don't serve others don't 

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affiliate with any. 
Specific religion, medical 

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practice or recovery group, or 
just here offering spiritual 

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tools that have worked for us. 
And then, God willing, it'll 

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work for somebody else and help 
them find their own road to 

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recovery. 
Yeah, I love that. 

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Let's get into Part 4, Practical
Steps to Surrender. 

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And this first one really fucked
me up. 

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This is the hard one, and this 
is super. 

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This is harder than you think. 
It's going to sound cool, but 

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it's way harder than you think, 
because what we view the word as

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the R word is totally different 
than than what it is. 

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It involves trust and all 
different kind of things. 

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So let's get into this one first
practical step surrender is 

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allow yourself to rest, Tyrell 
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Understand that it's okay to 
step away from situations that 

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you cannot control. 
And here's the T word with the R

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word or the T word, and trust 
that things will work out as 

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they should. 
Allow yourself to rest. 

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What do you think about doing 
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I'm not doing that. 
I have so much resistance to 

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rest. 
I'm not going to that treatment 

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center 2 speeds. 
I'm all or nothing and I also 

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have 35 years of conditioning to
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So the idea of rest, the idea of
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idea of don't push, push, push. 
You always push. 

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Why are you swimming upstream? 
So I'm a champion swimmer. 

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That's all I know to do. 
Of course I'm going to swim 

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upstream. 
The idea of rest is against my 

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natural inclination. 
I don't wake up like that. 

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But I also have never had the 
perspective of, well, in order 

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to surrender, in order to allow 
a recovery to enter my life, I 

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need to give myself the 
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And rest is a huge component of 
that rest, stepping away from 

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the situations that are. 
Kick in my ass. 

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Yeah, And then, you know, I 
always think of like the story 

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in the first beginning of the 
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where on the 7th day it says God
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Even God rested. 
He built the earth. 

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He's like I'm built the sky, the
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Here's Adam and Eve. 
Here's all this. 

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And then the 7th day God rested.
Yes, yeah. 

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Do you know the penalty? 
For not observing the Sabbath. 

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For not observing rest. 
The penalty for not observing 

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the Sabbath is you don't get the
Sabbath. 

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Yeah, you don't get the benefits
of rest. 

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You don't get the benefits of 
unplugging, going into yourself,

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going into source, going into 
spirit and connecting to that 

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power. 
It's just go, go, go, go, go. 

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I'm guilty of working. 
Four different jobs at the same 

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time, thinking I need a certain 
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OK and then put in my my foot to
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everything I got. 
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like a long time ago I had the 
whoop band WHOOP, and there's so

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many different of these bands 
you can wear ring or rings, all 

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these. 
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had a recovery part on it. 
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because whether I worked out 
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out, you know, really hard, and 
then you wake up in the morning,

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or whether you had a shitty 
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to Vintage, it's a nice bar here
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We used to see each other there 
and had cigars and drank a bunch

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of beer. 
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and my recovery would be in the 
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It'd be like at 20 something, 
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And then. 
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It's like heart rate 
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It's looking at all these 
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your pulse. 
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day, like just relax, chill, 
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know, take the dogs for a walk 
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And then by about 6:00 or 7:00 
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thing and you're in the green, 
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drink a lot of water, those type
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All of those things are 
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They call it in your world, in 
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They call it active recovery 
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Yeah. 
You know where like you do a 

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walk or something like that, or 
if you're if you're sick you 

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have to recover. 
So how many years of you being 

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sick because that's what it is, 
dis ease. 

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Yes. 
What does recovery look like for

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you, you know? 
Stepping away from that dis ease

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is not impossible, but it might 
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And when I can bring a deep yes 
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And get in connection with the 
power that helps me accomplish 

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the seemingly impossible. 
I have a chance, and the rest 

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component of recovery is I'm 
just no longer willing to spin 

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my wills in that crazy insane 
delusion of this time it's going

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to be different, right? 
This time, it's going to be 

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different. 
This time I'm not going to lose 

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the relationship. 
This time I'm not going to lose 

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my job. 
This time I'm not going to get 

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in a fight. 
It was never any different for 

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me. 
I kept trying the same 

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experiment, expecting different 
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result each time I asked, got 
kicked. 

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So that's the definition of an 
insanity for an addict. 

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Over and over again I proved to 
myself that I cannot do this on 

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my own. 
My form based power is not 

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enough. 
So do you, do you think like? 

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I mean rest can be just being in
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Absolutely. 
I'm no longer spinning the 

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wheels of my mind. 
I was noticing myself the other 

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night. 
I'm watching a spiritual 

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podcast. 
It's going really good. 

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I'm about 10 minutes into it, 
paying deep attention to it 

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being in the present moment. 
Next thing you know, like my 

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phone's doing now is like, I 
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disconnect from I'm laying in 
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You know this podcast, 
Disconnect from the Pocket. 

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I didn't hear anything they 
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And I'm on Instagram. 
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You know, And then then 10 
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I get back onto the podcast, 
watching it, listening. 

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Oh, that's really good. 
That's really good. 

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Oh, I love that. 
Oh, I needed that. 

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That one the guy got me. 
Oh, pick up the phone. 

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Yep. 
There was no rest, like. 

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And I think for an addict's 
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addiction to thought, this 
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addiction to dopamine. 
Resting is really like you said.

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I'm not going to do that. 
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hard. 
Even bringing that over to, you 

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know, the physical side of 
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Yeah, like you you when you're a
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Yeah, it's like I'm going to 
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Didn't you say you secretly 
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something? 
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shows, my brain said you need to
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It doesn't matter what you're 
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more of it. 
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sobriety to replace my 
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Because I could go, I could get 
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And then, you know, it was like,
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gym. 
We get on stage like we're going

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to take this body and we're 
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you're going to be in the one 
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And you're going to do that over
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And I used to train. 
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I would never, I would never do 
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So I had a trainer and he would 
tell me, OK, now you're that was

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good for today. 
Now go rest. 

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Recover the rest of the day, 
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But my brain was so busy. 
My ego had those comparison 

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thoughts going on, and I was so 
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as good as I possibly could. 
I would sneak to a different gym

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and work out again just so that 
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went to the same gym a couple 
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And in reality, I was not 
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Condition of my body. 
I was on such low fuel my body 

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was eating its muscle to try and
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my second workout. 
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and I think the word here is 
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Very good. 
Like so when I when I think of 

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allow, I'm thinking of what we 
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surrendering apart. 
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REST. 
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And they talk about this in the 
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Trust the things that will work 
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I want to control so I can't 
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upstream. 
I can't if I rest. 

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Something bad's gonna happen if 
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I don't try to perform all the 
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Then she's going to leave me 
very good if I if I don't work 

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harder than everybody else and 
make sure that I answer the 

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emails right away and I'm on 
Slack and my little dot on 

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slack, there's like a little dot
that shows that you're online 

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all the time. 
So I want everybody to see on 

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Saturday and Sunday my dots on. 
So I'm going to make sure I'm 

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I'm working on Saturdays and 
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And then everybody else is 
having fun and on vacation doing

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their thing. 
They're not checking Slack, but 

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I'm like if they do. 
I'll be there. 

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It's the same mentality. 
It is. 

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And it's difficult, especially, 
you know, in our world, well, 

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work harder, do more. 
I'm going to show up. 

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I'm going to work harder than 
every single person in that 

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room, right? 
That's that's a, that's a hero, 

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that's someone that is idolized.
That's, you know, a good thing 

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in our world today. 
But it's not good in regards to 

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my crazy, addictive mind. 
So it's very paradoxical. 

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It's very backwards. 
Last podcast we were talking 

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about tools that can help us 
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One of the nice tools that I try
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too, is a a prayer, a few 
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One of the prayers is God help 
me be kind. 

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God help me be kind. 
God help me be kind. 

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And the undercurrent of that 
prayer, you know, my daughter 

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taught me this one when she was 
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We were on the way to school. 
The undercurrent of that prayer 

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is, yes, God help me be kind, 
but help me be kind to myself. 

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Yes, help me be kind to myself 
when I'm go, go, go. 

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And I'm working for jobs and I'm
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prioritizing money over 
everything else. 

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My hair was falling out. 
I was having physical symptoms 

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from my cortisol levels being 
through the roof and not 

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allowing my body to heal and 
recover. 

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And that's in sobriety. 
That's not what I was doing to 

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my body with drugs and alcohol. 
With drugs and alcohol, my 

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organs are dying. 
They are shutting down. 

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But I I want to clarify 
something because you know, self

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pity comes in and all that and I
I face that issue when you are 

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putting in a 6 to 8 hour day or 
you're going showing up at work 

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and you're not really working 
and you're just you know, but 

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you're there for 8 hours but 
you're not really doing shit and

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then you're like Oh my God, I'm 
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I work all the time. 
It's it's to be honest with you 

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and I'm not being mean here. 
I'm I'm being loving and kind. 

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It's your narcissistic brain 
telling you that you're 

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narcisstic and that you're 
sacrificed when you really 

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haven't. 
I had to catch myself on this 

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like you worked a 12 hour day, 
but really you're productive 

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about 3 or 4. 
Very good. 

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You know what I mean? 
So don't fool yourself by 

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thinking cuz I I think work and 
and and four hour 4, you know, 

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four jobs is way too much. 
But I think the best thing that 

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you can do if you're an addict 
is to get a mission, a purpose. 

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A clear vision and a goal and 
head in that direction and 

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almost be obsessive over that. 
Like in a good way, like in a 

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positive way. 
I'm not talking being excessive,

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like where you're hurting 
yourself or whatever. 

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But there's something about 
being on mission and on purpose.

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Like having a purpose, a solid 
purpose where if you're just 

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sitting around watching Netflix 
and saying I'm resting, I'm 

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going to smoke weed and just 
rest. 

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You know, the government gives 
me a check, you know, and I get 

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free food and all these things. 
That's not, that's not what 

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we're talking about when we talk
about rest. 

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If you're doing those things, 
you need to get off your ass and

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get a freaking job, like a JOB 
and do purpose like you said, 

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take out the trash. 
Get busy. 

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Get busy. 
Go mow some lawns. 

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Do. 
Do whatever you can do to get 

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busy because people fool 
themselves in America. 

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And if you're not an American, 
you listen to this podcast and 

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you're working 1215 hours. 
You know, just survive for your 

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family. 
I get it. 

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I've been there, done it, got 
the T-shirt, and you have two. 

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But you can do way more than you
think you can. 

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Yeah. 
The God consciousness inside of 

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me is not capable of getting 
tired. 

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Yes. 
So if I'm coming from that 

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place, I could work all day. 
But to come from that place, I 

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have to have that clear 
direction. 

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Yes, I have to have that 
purpose. 

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I have to have. 
Beautiful motive. 

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But but but your mission and 
purpose is not working for jobs.

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No, no. 
Does that. 

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That's not a pure motive. 
That that's a pretty selfish, 

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self-centered motive. 
So if my motive is pure, if my 

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motive is provide for my family,
If my motive is be the best 

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individual I can be, If my 
motive is simultaneously be the 

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best individual I can be, be the
best person I can be for my 

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family. 
Be the best person I can be for 

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my community. 
I'm helping all areas of life 

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because of my motive. 
That's a pure motive, and it's 

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excellent to head in that 
direction, excellent to give 

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that everything I got. 
What you just said is fantastic 

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advice, especially for someone 
who's looking for purpose, 

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someone who's looking for 
meaning, you know, if I'm stuck 

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on the couch, if it's Netflix 
24/7, if it's medical marijuana 

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or whatever it is 24/7, I need 
this substance to be okay. 

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And then simultaneously, I'm 
being told by the government, 

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this is good, this is all good 
here. 

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You know what? 
We'll fund this. 

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We'll fund your. 
Lazy delusion. 

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Then you're just eating junk 
food, sitting on the couch, not 

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doing shit. 
I'm still the victim. 

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Yes, there you go. 
Of the world around me, I'm 

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still the victim of whatever 
government thing. 

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I'm still the victim of whatever
oppressive thing I'm still the 

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victim of. 
My parents didn't help this 

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thing. 
I'm still the victim of my 

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education. 
Victims never recover. 

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I'm going to use a harsh word, 
but they're slaves. 

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You're slave to the government. 
You're a slave to Some people 

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even are on the tit of their 
parent. 

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Whether it's a mom that gets her
identity based off of you. 

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And you're 25 years old and 
you're still getting money from 

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your mom. 
Yeah, and you don't have a job. 

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Okay, dude, you need a man up 
and go. 

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Take some responsibility. 
You want to help your addiction.

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You want to recover? 
Take some responsibility. 

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Beautiful. 
Beautiful. 

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How do I transcend? 
The tragedy of being a victim, 

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yes. 
How do I go beyond that? 

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If victims never recover, how do
I go beyond that? 

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Exactly what you just said. 
You just nailed it. 

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Start taking responsibility. 
But to find rest you need to 

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find your breaking point. 
And a lot of people haven't 

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found that yet. 
Like go work two jobs and be 

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like, whoa, whoa whoa, I need to
take a rest. 

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Yeah, it's different for every 
individual. 

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That's a good point. 
Or like, I don't know, my gains 

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don't happen at the gym, but 
those last three reps? 

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Yeah. 
You know what I mean? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
It's tough to get to that 

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threshold of OK, now I'm 
transforming into something new.

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It's definitely a powerful 
experience. 

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If I'm willing to walk the line,
I'm walking the road and seeing 

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where my threshold is, and it's 
a fascinating adventure, 

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different for every individual. 
But the responsibility is what 

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gets me moving. 
The responsibility of a job, the

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responsibility of a family, the 
responsibility of I'm going to 

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be good to myself. 
You know what? 

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Actually, I made a commitment to
be kind to myself. 

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What does that look like? 
Does that look like the couch 

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and Krispy Kremes or does that 
look like 8 hours at this 

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specific job so I can take care 
of my bills and not feel 

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worthless? 
Yeah, the feeling worthless is 

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just that. 
Depression, self pity. 

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That's how that's I know because
I was that yes, you know, and 

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sometimes I have to battle that 
still, like that's not real. 

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But when I get in super self 
pity mode. 

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Junk food and Netflix for me. 
Totally. 

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And I don't want to talk to 
anybody. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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And everybody's irritating to me
and all I want to do is just 

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been watch the show. 
And enough of that progression, 

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enough of that behavior becomes 
my condition response to hard 

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shit. 
Yes. 

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I don't know how to go through 
hard shit. 

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I know how to do Netflix and 
food. 

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Yeah, 100%. 
So that I just it makes it OK. 

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Or I get my feelings hurt so I 
have to withdraw as an introvert

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and run to some La La Land like 
a TV show or something. 

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I like the next part. 
Because this is going right in 

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hand with what we're saying. 
Notice your need to control, so 

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I'm going to skip to the last 
part. 

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It says consider your motivation
for control and the reality of 

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the situation. 
So noticing our need to control,

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let's start, we're going to go 
backwards here. 

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Let's we're going to reverse 
engineer this. 

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Let's start with the reality of 
the situation. 

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Because so many people, 
especially people with addictive

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personalities like myself in 
yours and me, we don't accept 

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reality. 
No. 

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No, I want to manufacture 
reality. 

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It's up to what? 
So a nice analogy or or a nice 

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saying for us is just I'm not, 
I'm not right sized. 

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I'm either King Duane most 
important, which is not reality,

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or I'm the worst thing that ever
existed and everybody just 

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pisses on me, which is also not 
reality. 

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So I have no, I have no right 
sizedness to my to my worldview.

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I have no get real. 
I have no one of one of the a 

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woman's definition of reality 
was of humility. 

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Was great. 
She said. 

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Well, just get real, Dwayne. 
Just get real. 

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Like see reality. 
And reality is. 

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I cannot figure out my addiction
by myself. 

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I'm lost in my own consciousness
and I behave in my ego. 

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And to start taking action to 
correct those behaviors, it 

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takes a lot of courage. 
So how? 

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Because this is very important. 
So in the vertical dimension 

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that we put first and you need 
to listen to our other podcasts 

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to understand that in that 
vertical dimension, how does our

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Higher Self take control? 
How can we take control with our

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Higher self and how much power 
does the Higher Self have to 

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help us? 
Higher power has all power. 

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It it, it can help in any 
situation, in any problem. 

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I'm walking around 24/7 with the
solution to my problem. 

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Which problem? 
All problems. 

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Any problem. 
The trick or the the journey for

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us is to allow that to be 
forefront is a lot to allow 

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higher power, to allow Spirit to
be the part of me. 

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That views the world to be the 
part of me that can make. 

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Can I make a spiritual decision 
here? 

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Can I make a decision based on 
integrity? 

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Can I make a decision based with
in honesty here? 

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Or am I making a selfish, 
selfcentered decision because 

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the world of form is more 
important? 

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Is my integrity forefront or is 
my selfish desire to have more 

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money or more sex forefront 
every single decision throughout

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the day? 
We have opportunities to 

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practice making decisions based 
on self or making decisions 

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based on principle. 
I love that. 

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So I start making decisions 
based on principle, and I'm 

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simultaneously rewiring my mind.
I'm rebuilding the structure of 

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my selfish, conditioned, 
addictive mind. 

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Am I allowing myself to rest? 
So change the programming, 

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change the matrix. 
Is that a? 

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Is that conducive to my recovery
or am I going to get, well, just

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1000 miles an hour down the road
burning the tires? 

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I'm never going to get well if 
that's how hard I'm pushing my 

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body. 
Yeah, it was funny. 

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I was talking to my girlfriend 
the other day and I we, I always

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call out my ego, especially with
her because we have a 

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relationship that way. 
And I was like, I had an amazing

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day. 
Everything was awesome and I had

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20 good things happen. 
At least 20 great things happen.

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And I didn't have to 
manufacture. 

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I just had amazing things 
happen. 

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But I need to focus on the one 
thing and ruin my emotions, ruin

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my attitude, be pissed off at 
the world because out of 20 

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great things that happen, yeah, 
one thing just derailed me and I

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called it out to her. 
You know, cuz it's it's great to

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do that If you have, you know, 
two spiritual, if you have a 

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partner that's spiritual, then 
you can just laugh at. 

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I was laughing at I was like I 
gotta have that one thing to 

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just fuck me up. 
But in the material it says the 

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reality of the situation and 
then it says consider your 

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motivation for control. 
Yeah, you know, this, this. 

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Which part of me wants control? 
Where does that come from? 

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What's the undercurrent of 
needing control? 

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No, no. 
The lights need to be facing 

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this way. 
You need to be arranged like 

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this. 
You need to. 

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No, no, don't behave like that. 
That's always my ego. 

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Yeah, and it I had that way. 
Because I I was probably too 

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disciplinarian as a father. 
And I'm older, you know, so, So 

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there was this whole thing that 
I, my kids are rebellious and I 

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need to control them and put 
them on the straight and narrow 

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path. 
Yeah. 

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You know, and and so I used 
Christianity as guilt to kind of

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hold over it. 
At the time, I was, you know, 

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into that pretty heavily. 
And I'm saying anything against 

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it. 
I used it in a wrong format. 

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You know, Jesus was all about 
love and, you know, acceptance. 

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I was all about. 
You doing this wrong. 

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You're doing this wrong. 
Why are you acting this way? 

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You know and and so in that 
moment, what is my motivation 

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for control? 
Trying to control my children? 

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Yes, so difficult. 
It's such this is such a big 

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topic, Jason. 
It's wonderful that we're 

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addressing this. 
Every addict has control issues.

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I don't care who you are, you're
on a you're on a level playing 

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field in regards to this game, 
my ego. 

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Cannot surrender to the fact 
that it's not getting what it 

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wants. 
So it's easier for my ego to 

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say, well, what's wrong with me 
instead of my judgment, instead 

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of my fear, instead of my 
disillusionment. 

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I can't see reality. 
That's not what's wrong. 

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What's wrong with me is you, 
your behavior. 

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Is what's making me feel 
uncomfortable on the inside. 

454
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,640
That's so good and in and and 
with an understanding of a 

455
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,560
spiritual practice and 
understanding of. 

456
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,040
I want principle to be forefront
in my life, not self to be 

457
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,440
forefront in my life with that 
understanding. 

458
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,640
That means that's delusional. 
If I have an unrealistic 

459
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,680
expectation that you're going to
behave a particular way, and 

460
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,600
then I'll be OK and I walk 
through the world that way. 

461
00:24:34,130 --> 00:24:36,170
It's miserable. 
It's miserable to try and 

462
00:24:36,170 --> 00:24:40,930
control people, surroundings, 
places, things they never listen

463
00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:42,890
well, you say. 
That all the time you you say 

464
00:24:42,890 --> 00:24:44,770
you know, if only you were OK, 
then I would be OK. 

465
00:24:44,890 --> 00:24:48,130
It's the second greatest lie any
addict ever tells himself. 

466
00:24:48,130 --> 00:24:50,570
It's important to realize that 
this is a lie. 

467
00:24:50,930 --> 00:24:55,010
It's important to catch myself 
in the middle of it with my ULP.

468
00:24:55,770 --> 00:24:58,650
There's a crazy thought. 
There's a judgmental thought. 

469
00:24:58,950 --> 00:25:02,230
Yep, there's a fearful thought. 
The more and more I can catch 

470
00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:05,630
these crazy thoughts, these 
controlling thoughts, the better

471
00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:10,470
and better I get at rewiring my 
brain to turn towards a 

472
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:16,030
spiritual solution based on 
principle rather than based on 

473
00:25:16,030 --> 00:25:18,190
self. 
But what we're really doing is 

474
00:25:18,190 --> 00:25:20,950
so powerful, Jason, what we're 
really doing in that moment, and

475
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:23,030
you know this, and you do this 
every, every day. 

476
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:27,430
Is we're taking responsibility 
for the vibration inside of us. 

477
00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:29,550
We're taking responsibility for 
my vibration. 

478
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:32,910
I'm vibrating at a judgmental 
level but I want to make it your

479
00:25:32,910 --> 00:25:34,990
fault. 
I feel low. 

480
00:25:34,990 --> 00:25:38,070
I feel it's a low vibration. 
It doesn't feel good. 

481
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:41,270
But I want to make it my two 
year old's fault because he's 

482
00:25:41,270 --> 00:25:46,990
screaming he's just being 2. 
And when I can be present and 

483
00:25:46,990 --> 00:25:50,510
honor the God consciousness 
inside of me and if I can catch 

484
00:25:50,510 --> 00:25:53,230
the crazy controlling thought 
and. 

485
00:25:53,650 --> 00:25:58,370
Return to a spiritual tool like 
God help me not judge. 

486
00:25:59,130 --> 00:26:02,730
God help me not judge. 
I can meet that little 2 year 

487
00:26:02,730 --> 00:26:05,850
old on a spiritual vibration and
it's pure bliss. 

488
00:26:06,210 --> 00:26:09,810
Bro, I have this love for this 
little boy, this little child. 

489
00:26:09,810 --> 00:26:10,930
Like a Mini. 
He's a Mini youth. 

490
00:26:10,930 --> 00:26:13,610
He's a totally a mini me, 
whatever I have, he has. 

491
00:26:14,690 --> 00:26:19,410
And in that moment where he's 
not afraid of my judgment. 

492
00:26:20,210 --> 00:26:23,610
And I'm offering my presence 
instead of offering my judgment.

493
00:26:23,770 --> 00:26:25,850
We can connect, and it's so 
powerful. 

494
00:26:26,050 --> 00:26:28,250
And the love is there, bro. 
It feels so good. 

495
00:26:28,250 --> 00:26:29,850
His eyes are big. 
My eyes are big. 

496
00:26:29,850 --> 00:26:34,530
It's electric. 
But when I'm in control and when

497
00:26:34,530 --> 00:26:37,530
I'm in selfishness and when I'm 
in, you need to be this way or 

498
00:26:37,530 --> 00:26:40,810
I'm not OK. 
He runs from me. 

499
00:26:41,010 --> 00:26:43,490
Yeah. 
Who like as far as mentors you 

500
00:26:43,490 --> 00:26:45,880
mentioned, Bill. 
And then you mentioned another 

501
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,480
guy who was the guy that picked 
you up from the hospital, Bobby.

502
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,880
So Bill was one, right? 
Dick. 

503
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,720
Dick and then Bobby. 
And then there was a lady, 

504
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,960
right? 
You said that was kind of 

505
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,600
helping you out a little bit. 
There were a lot of people that.

506
00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:59,960
Yeah. 
So I mean, you could probably 

507
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,720
name five of them. 
Easy. 

508
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,800
Oh yeah. 
Countless. 

509
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,360
It's countless. 
There are 10, let's say 10. 

510
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,360
The cool part about this is how 
those five or ten people helped 

511
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,320
you. 
You have a little 2 year old 

512
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,930
addict. 
Yes, he's like you and you get 

513
00:27:14,930 --> 00:27:18,010
to be all of those people. 
To him, yeah. 

514
00:27:18,010 --> 00:27:21,810
And I and I, I'm so grateful for
the experience of the men and 

515
00:27:21,810 --> 00:27:24,650
women that have helped me 
through through my own recovery 

516
00:27:24,650 --> 00:27:26,410
journey. 
We'd like to say, you know, 

517
00:27:26,410 --> 00:27:30,010
we're standing on the shoulders 
of the men and women that came 

518
00:27:30,010 --> 00:27:32,810
before us. 
I'm not, we're not reinventing 

519
00:27:32,810 --> 00:27:35,660
the wheel here. 
We're just doing what has worked

520
00:27:35,660 --> 00:27:37,740
for others and doing what has 
worked for us, and that's all. 

521
00:27:37,780 --> 00:27:40,220
I'm extremely grateful because 
of that experience, because I 

522
00:27:40,220 --> 00:27:44,380
have a really good education on 
what to do with that energy. 

523
00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:50,820
If he has the more gene and is 
addicted to more, I know what to

524
00:27:50,820 --> 00:27:54,220
do with that energy. 
I know a good thing to do with 

525
00:27:54,220 --> 00:27:56,020
that energy is turn towards 
spirit. 

526
00:27:56,540 --> 00:27:59,020
I know a good thing to do. 
That energy is channel it 

527
00:27:59,020 --> 00:28:03,710
towards something useful. 
You want to be 100? 

528
00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:06,630
You want to be all or nothing. 
We'll be all or nothing in 

529
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:09,750
helping others. 
You want to be all or nothing, 

530
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:12,470
be all or nothing in being 
successful and and being kind to

531
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:14,030
yourself at the same time. 
Yeah. 

532
00:28:14,030 --> 00:28:17,430
And I I think with the control 
thing, the motivation, consider 

533
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:19,950
your motivation. 
And you just said, you know, be 

534
00:28:19,950 --> 00:28:24,190
kind to others, help others, 
that will help you eliminate the

535
00:28:24,190 --> 00:28:27,150
control. 
I want to kind of go in that 

536
00:28:27,150 --> 00:28:29,110
direction and this will lead us 
to the next one. 

537
00:28:29,270 --> 00:28:31,390
But I, I, I want to go in this 
direction in the sense of what 

538
00:28:31,390 --> 00:28:33,610
you just said. 
So many people are so 

539
00:28:33,610 --> 00:28:38,650
narcissistic and so prideful, 
they're not willing to express 

540
00:28:38,650 --> 00:28:41,250
themselves in humility towards 
another. 

541
00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:48,090
And what I'm talking about is 
maybe right now in your life you

542
00:28:48,290 --> 00:28:53,450
working for free to learn 
something, Always tell people. 

543
00:28:54,970 --> 00:28:57,660
Maybe you make minimum wage. 
But you found that your 

544
00:28:57,660 --> 00:29:00,180
passionate purpose, you always 
hear of the stories of, you 

545
00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:03,140
know, the artist or the 
photographer or, you know, you 

546
00:29:03,140 --> 00:29:05,140
always hear it in the creative 
room or whatever it may be. 

547
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:10,020
But that person that you know, 
they saw, like almost like it's 

548
00:29:10,020 --> 00:29:12,780
like a God tier person. 
Like I want to be that person. 

549
00:29:12,860 --> 00:29:14,380
Yeah. 
So you come in and you're like, 

550
00:29:14,380 --> 00:29:16,420
hey, whatever it takes, I'll 
clean the floors. 

551
00:29:16,420 --> 00:29:17,940
I'll sweep the floors. 
I'll do whatever it takes. 

552
00:29:17,940 --> 00:29:20,260
I just want to learn from you, 
you know, If I have to get my 

553
00:29:20,260 --> 00:29:23,700
time for free after I get off my
regular job, I'll do whatever it

554
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:25,620
takes because I want to. 
I want to be you. 

555
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,840
You know, you know what I'm 
saying in like a good way, not 

556
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,080
an ego way. 
But I I want to, I want to 

557
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,280
understand you as an artist, and
I want to paint like you. 

558
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,520
We'll just use that, for 
instance, And you get in this 

559
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,680
moment and you begin to 
understand and you watch him as 

560
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,960
he's painting with his 
brushstrokes or her and you, you

561
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,360
hands on, see that you would 
never be that way. 

562
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,320
If you're like, why isn't this 
person paying me at least 

563
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,800
minimum wage? 
Why am I, you know, why am I 

564
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,110
doing this for free? 
You don't. 

565
00:29:54,270 --> 00:29:56,870
And I always tell people this. 
No matter what you do in life, 

566
00:29:57,870 --> 00:30:02,190
do something that you want to do
and if it doesn't pay a lot in 

567
00:30:02,190 --> 00:30:06,230
the beginning, if you dedicate 
your life to it, I guarantee you

568
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:09,310
to pay off if you're passionate 
because the higher self loves 

569
00:30:09,310 --> 00:30:10,270
passion. 
And. 

570
00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:12,790
In your unique God made you 
unique. 

571
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:14,710
We're like snowflakes. 
You know the whole thing with 

572
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:16,710
the snowflake, each one God put 
you on. 

573
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:19,990
I believe every person is put on
this earth for one unique 

574
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:21,950
purpose. 
And there's something that 

575
00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:24,190
you're going to do that you 
don't even realize. 

576
00:30:24,190 --> 00:30:26,390
It's going to be a blessing and 
a help to someone else. 

577
00:30:26,830 --> 00:30:28,950
No matter. 
You're like on meth right now. 

578
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:32,910
I guarantee you, if you put 
yourself first, if you begin to 

579
00:30:32,910 --> 00:30:38,070
prioritize what it means to be 
on this vertical, and then you 

580
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:41,390
began to pour yourself into 
other people, you're going to 

581
00:30:41,390 --> 00:30:43,390
help people. 
How many people have you helped 

582
00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:45,390
in 13 years? 
It's countless. 

583
00:30:45,390 --> 00:30:47,390
You don't even know until you 
know. 

584
00:30:47,550 --> 00:30:49,390
And and I always love the story 
of. 

585
00:30:49,810 --> 00:30:50,770
Like that. 
You've always heard these 

586
00:30:50,770 --> 00:30:52,770
stories when you go to heaven 
and then people are going to 

587
00:30:52,770 --> 00:30:54,250
come around you. 
You know, there's always this 

588
00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:58,130
beautiful story about and I I 
think this is like true, you 

589
00:30:58,130 --> 00:30:59,570
know, in in such a beautiful 
way. 

590
00:30:59,570 --> 00:31:02,650
I think we'll see it in our when
we go back to source. 

591
00:31:03,650 --> 00:31:06,010
I think that would be a 
beautiful way to for source to 

592
00:31:06,010 --> 00:31:10,010
show us love is to show us all 
the lives and every little 

593
00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:12,530
moment. 
We didn't even realize it, just 

594
00:31:12,530 --> 00:31:14,770
a moment when we were sitting 
across the table from somebody 

595
00:31:14,770 --> 00:31:17,410
and Ed Milette said that about 
his dad. 

596
00:31:17,860 --> 00:31:20,220
And I shared that story with 
you, you know, where his dad had

597
00:31:21,020 --> 00:31:25,860
a guy at a bar that was an 
alcoholic, talked to him and it 

598
00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:29,540
changed his life. 
And then when he died, he found 

599
00:31:29,540 --> 00:31:31,900
when his dad died, Ed Milett's 
dad died. 

600
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:35,220
And he tells the story way 
better than I am, but he found 

601
00:31:35,220 --> 00:31:38,100
all these envelopes that his dad
had in like a drawer or 

602
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:41,420
something like that. 
And they were birthdays of and 

603
00:31:41,420 --> 00:31:43,940
sobriety birthdays. 
And this guy every year would 

604
00:31:43,940 --> 00:31:46,480
call these people. 
So alcoholic. 

605
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,640
Another guy changed him, sitting
at both, sitting at barstools. 

606
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,080
Then he begins to help other 
addicts, other Alcoholics, 

607
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,120
calling, just calling them on 
their sobriety year, seeing how 

608
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,560
they're doing. 
So everything's going. 

609
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,880
There was hundreds of envelopes.
Yeah, yeah, so. 

610
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,480
The guy at the bar does it. 
He didn't even know what he did.

611
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,360
We have no idea how much effect 
we could have on another 

612
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,500
individual, especially if. 
We're offering our presence, 

613
00:32:15,220 --> 00:32:17,300
especially if we're. 
Cooking you just teeing right 

614
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:19,180
into the. 
From a present moment, look at 

615
00:32:19,180 --> 00:32:21,180
this. 
You just stepped right into it, 

616
00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:22,500
bro. 
Practice, presence. 

617
00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:25,340
Here we go. 
Yeah, present a present moment 

618
00:32:25,340 --> 00:32:27,060
practice. 
That's what we like to call it. 

619
00:32:27,060 --> 00:32:30,780
I have built an entire business 
based on present moment 

620
00:32:30,780 --> 00:32:34,300
practice, but I've also been 
able to change and revolutionize

621
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:37,020
my life with the present moment 
practice. 

622
00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:39,980
And and present moment practice 
can be a very big idea, should 

623
00:32:39,980 --> 00:32:43,030
be an expanding idea. 
What? 

624
00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:48,630
Where does all power come from? 
This God. 

625
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:50,110
Source. 
Yes, God's source. 

626
00:32:50,350 --> 00:32:56,190
Where does God's source live? 
In me now, In the here and now? 

627
00:32:56,910 --> 00:33:01,350
What's real if I'm if I'm having
a hard time seeing reality and 

628
00:33:01,350 --> 00:33:07,710
I'm interested in shedding those
glasses of delusion and starting

629
00:33:07,710 --> 00:33:11,310
to look at the world in a in a 
reality based? 

630
00:33:11,620 --> 00:33:19,900
Form in reality, place platform.
God or the presence inside of me

631
00:33:22,060 --> 00:33:25,580
is eternal. 
It's not ten days ago. 

632
00:33:25,940 --> 00:33:30,020
Only then I'm, you know, in 
resentment in my mind. 

633
00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:33,660
It's not two weeks from now. 
Then I'm in fear. 

634
00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:36,260
In my mind. 
I'm not present and I'm not 

635
00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:37,500
being real. 
What's happening now? 

636
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:40,740
What's real now is I'm in front 
of a microphone with Jason. 

637
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,720
And we're unrecovered Attic 
podcast. 

638
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,120
That's right here, right now. 
Where does God, where does my 

639
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,600
consciousness, my God 
consciousness exist? 

640
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,880
It exists in the here and now. 
It cannot experience. 

641
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,080
Two weeks from now. 
It's not possible. 

642
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,520
I lose myself. 
I lose reality. 

643
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,440
When I go 2 weeks in the future.
In my mind, I'm entering the 

644
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,160
world of form. 
I'm entering my ego and I'm, I'm

645
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,239
detaching. 
From the power that exists in 

646
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,560
the present moment. 
Yeah, it's like, I mean, to go 

647
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,159
back to our last point, what 
type of eternity? 

648
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,159
If you look at eternity, where's
control in that? 

649
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,960
How can you control eternity? 
Not possible, there's no. 

650
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,120
How can you worry? 
It's a losing in eternity. 

651
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,199
It's a losing battle that and 
it's how can. 

652
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:31,480
You judge in eternity. 
It's it's comical to think I can

653
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,960
control eternity. 
You're a you're a God 

654
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,400
consciousness. 
I got it. 

655
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,400
I'll, I'll deal with it. 
I know what's best I when my ego

656
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,880
takes over and I it's so funny 
because my ego can sneak. 

657
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:51,280
Now my ego can sneak into my 
spirituality and I'll pray for a

658
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,520
particular outcome. 
God help this sick person get 

659
00:34:54,520 --> 00:35:01,800
well, it's a good thing. 
But in that moment my ego has 

660
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,320
reentered and I am pretending to
know. 

661
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:11,400
Better than God, maybe It's 
God's plan for that sick person 

662
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,200
to die. 
Because when that sick person 

663
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,080
reenters non physical, their 
life's going to be a lot better 

664
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,880
than the suffering they're 
experiencing now with their 

665
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,400
illness. 
I don't get to know that. 

666
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:28,320
No, yeah, exactly. 
I do get to trust that God know 

667
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:33,640
I've proven it to myself enough 
times to where the trust I would

668
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,600
like to think is a working part 
of the mind. 

669
00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:41,100
God usually has a better plan 
than me anyways, so let's just 

670
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:42,940
let God deal with that. 
One nice prayer. 

671
00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:44,980
One nice tool for me is God. 
You deal with that because I 

672
00:35:44,980 --> 00:35:47,260
can't. 
God, you deal with that because 

673
00:35:47,260 --> 00:35:49,580
I can't. 
But to get back to the present 

674
00:35:49,780 --> 00:35:56,020
moment practice, I believe that 
God can only exist my higher 

675
00:35:56,020 --> 00:35:57,940
power. 
My shoes of inner being can only

676
00:35:57,940 --> 00:36:03,140
exist in the present moment. 
I believe true power is aligning

677
00:36:03,860 --> 00:36:08,360
with that present moment. 
So where does all power exist in

678
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:14,320
the here and now? 
Why can I heal from my 

679
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,960
addiction? 
Because I'm connected to the 

680
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,400
present moment. 
I'm connected to all power. 

681
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,360
And it's so hard when you've 
never done it and everybody 

682
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,600
thinks to be in the present 
moment, you need to meditate, 

683
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,080
you know, So you have to do some
special like, you know or 

684
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,120
whatever, and you need to do all
these special things, and those 

685
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,840
are all great things. 
I've been sharing a meditative 

686
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,600
practice. 
I've been doing not every day, 

687
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,560
but I've been trying and I try 
to do it several times a day 

688
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:47,560
sometimes, but it's noticing 
things and the material talks 

689
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,800
about this, like, engage with 
your surroundings, don't make it

690
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,000
all about you. 
That's what happens when you're 

691
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,080
so narcissistic and you have 
this addictive personality. 

692
00:36:59,660 --> 00:37:02,260
You can't be in the present 
moment because you're judging 

693
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:04,340
every single thing based off of 
you. 

694
00:37:05,140 --> 00:37:08,340
Exactly. 
So if you can just accept to 

695
00:37:08,340 --> 00:37:13,340
surrender to the present moment,
that means looking at the guy 

696
00:37:13,340 --> 00:37:17,060
walking the dog and and being in
the present moment and saying a 

697
00:37:17,060 --> 00:37:19,380
prayer of kindness and love. 
I I get. 

698
00:37:19,380 --> 00:37:21,780
I want to give this person love 
and light herself. 

699
00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:24,220
Give this person love and light.
Oh what an amazing dog. 

700
00:37:24,220 --> 00:37:25,520
So cute. 
You know? 

701
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,040
Or that's a really ugly dog, you
know? 

702
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,440
Whatever. 
But you know what I mean? 

703
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,440
Like it's like practice. 
Go to a park. 

704
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,600
I used to do this. 
Go to the dog park cuz I love 

705
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,840
dogs so much. 
Go to a dog park and just watch 

706
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,400
the dogs. 
They're totally present. 

707
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:45,440
So I've never seen a dog worry. 
No so powerful that Eckhart 

708
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:53,320
totally likes, excuse me, likes 
to refer to animals as guardians

709
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,710
of being. 
We call them guardians of being 

710
00:37:55,710 --> 00:38:00,350
because sometimes for for some 
individuals who are so lost in 

711
00:38:00,350 --> 00:38:04,230
their mind, so lost in their 
ego, the only time they can be 

712
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:07,430
present is when they're 
interacting with their animal. 

713
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:13,630
So their animal is holding space
for the owner, and that's the 

714
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:16,310
only time the owner gets to be 
present because. 

715
00:38:16,780 --> 00:38:19,860
The owner meets the dog at the 
dog's vibration. 

716
00:38:20,060 --> 00:38:22,620
The dog is vibrating in pure 
presence all the time. 

717
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:24,500
He's not worried about paying 
bills two weeks in the future. 

718
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:27,140
I guarantee you he's not worried
about that last time I didn't 

719
00:38:27,140 --> 00:38:29,020
feed or whatever. 
He's pure presence. 

720
00:38:29,020 --> 00:38:31,220
That's why they're so excited to
see you every time. 

721
00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:36,460
They don't exist in a mind that 
has fear and worry or judgment 

722
00:38:36,460 --> 00:38:38,580
and control. 
They're just pure presence. 

723
00:38:38,580 --> 00:38:41,980
That's why it's so beautiful. 
Excellent, excellent, simple 

724
00:38:41,980 --> 00:38:45,860
tools that can help us enter the
present moment one. 

725
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:50,110
And it this kind of turns into 
five is 5. 

726
00:38:50,110 --> 00:38:52,910
Tools are sense perceptions. 
Like you said. 

727
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:57,750
Go to the park, Look at the 
green grass, read a sign. 

728
00:38:57,870 --> 00:39:02,830
It says 25 mph. 
So simple. 

729
00:39:02,830 --> 00:39:05,270
It's it's it's almost stupid. 
It's so simple. 

730
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:09,390
But I cannot simultaneously be 
in my mind worrying about my 

731
00:39:09,390 --> 00:39:15,290
addiction and reading 25 mph. 
So I love that sense. 

732
00:39:15,290 --> 00:39:18,730
Perception brings me to the 
present moment when I'm washing 

733
00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:22,490
my hands. 
Be with the water, fill what the

734
00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:25,170
water feels like when I'm laying
in bed. 

735
00:39:25,170 --> 00:39:28,890
Fill the sheets, fill the cool 
comfortable sheets. 

736
00:39:31,330 --> 00:39:33,770
Hearing music is a fantastic 
one. 

737
00:39:33,970 --> 00:39:37,490
Music can bring us present. 
A podcast can bring us present. 

738
00:39:38,140 --> 00:39:40,340
A spiritual talk. 
Anything. 

739
00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:42,220
Anything. 
You Gosh, I have YouTube. 

740
00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:43,900
We have YouTube going all the 
time. 

741
00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:46,900
We're constantly sending each 
other powerful spiritual talks 

742
00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:48,140
that we think can help each 
other. 

743
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:51,300
What is, what is the hearing of 
the podcast? 

744
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:53,300
What is the hearing of the 
spiritual discussion? 

745
00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:58,220
That's a sense perception. 
It brings me to the present 

746
00:39:58,220 --> 00:40:00,780
moment. 
I'm not worried if I can be 

747
00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:03,060
present with what's going on in 
my ears. 

748
00:40:03,380 --> 00:40:06,310
I'm not simultaneously. 
Angry. 

749
00:40:06,310 --> 00:40:09,470
About two weeks ago when this 
woman in the grocery store cut 

750
00:40:09,470 --> 00:40:13,190
my card off and I had to pause 
for this overweight woman. 

751
00:40:13,230 --> 00:40:15,270
And I just that's judgment. 
That's fear. 

752
00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:16,390
That's anger. 
That's worried. 

753
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:18,550
That's two weeks in the past. 
It's not real. 

754
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:21,590
It's not happening now. 
So sense perceptions bring me to

755
00:40:21,590 --> 00:40:24,670
the present moment. 
The present moment is where all 

756
00:40:24,670 --> 00:40:26,390
power exists. 
Another nice tool. 

757
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:28,150
Well, let me, let me, let me 
suck you there before you go to 

758
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:29,790
the second one, because I think 
this is, this is really 

759
00:40:29,790 --> 00:40:31,550
important. 
One of the things that's helped 

760
00:40:31,550 --> 00:40:33,690
me is. 
And and maybe I'm more 

761
00:40:33,690 --> 00:40:37,530
traditionalist type. 
And so like this thing I've been

762
00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:41,530
doing with before I meditate and
I had read this is I wash my 

763
00:40:41,530 --> 00:40:43,650
hands kind of like a form of 
purity. 

764
00:40:43,890 --> 00:40:45,570
Yes. 
And I practice, like you said, 

765
00:40:45,650 --> 00:40:47,490
just washing my hands and paying
attention. 

766
00:40:47,490 --> 00:40:49,170
Cleaning my hands, just, you 
know. 

767
00:40:49,450 --> 00:40:53,730
And then I drink a glass of 
water And then how does the 

768
00:40:53,730 --> 00:40:55,770
water feel? 
How when it's, you know, just 

769
00:40:56,010 --> 00:41:00,250
and then I I go into my 
meditation and maybe it's going 

770
00:41:00,250 --> 00:41:03,620
to maybe you're Catholic. 
And maybe it's going to church 

771
00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:06,660
and practice sitting there as 
you're doing the rosary beads or

772
00:41:06,660 --> 00:41:09,020
whatever you're doing. 
Practice being present in that 

773
00:41:09,020 --> 00:41:11,060
moment. 
Practice when you're praying. 

774
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:13,340
Maybe you, you're a Christian 
Church and you're listening to 

775
00:41:13,340 --> 00:41:15,180
worship music. 
You know, when you're sitting 

776
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:18,420
there and you get your hands and
practice being totally present 

777
00:41:18,420 --> 00:41:22,300
and feeling that music because 
music is so powerful, you know, 

778
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:25,580
and and whatever it may be. 
Yeah, Greek Orthodox. 

779
00:41:25,580 --> 00:41:26,740
And you're listening to the 
priest. 

780
00:41:27,020 --> 00:41:29,300
You know, church is a good way. 
It's a freeway. 

781
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,520
It's free. 
It doesn't cost anything. 

782
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,480
It's a good way to practice 
being in the present moment 

783
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:36,640
because you'll be listening to 
the speaker, the passer, the 

784
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,440
priest, whatever. 
And you're gone in like 5 

785
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,120
minutes and next thing you know,
he's like, man, you're like, 

786
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,840
man. 
I was thinking about that girl's

787
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,640
ass and then I was thinking 
about I'm not getting paid 

788
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,830
enough and I need to do this. 
You know, so it's a good hour 

789
00:41:51,830 --> 00:41:54,790
that you have to sit there hour 
and a half and practice. 

790
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:57,350
It's a great way to practice 
being so not just a park, 

791
00:41:57,550 --> 00:42:00,150
church. 
But for me, rituals really help.

792
00:42:00,310 --> 00:42:01,350
Absolutely. 
For me. 

793
00:42:01,510 --> 00:42:05,390
And I know they're ancient, so 
and that's why they had rituals,

794
00:42:05,590 --> 00:42:08,110
not so much that there was any 
act like a crystal. 

795
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:10,150
There's no power in the crystal.
It's a rock. 

796
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,720
You know, I mean, it can vibrate
and there's different things 

797
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:15,160
like that. 
But it's the whole idea of of 

798
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,920
taking being present with that. 
You know, whether you, you look 

799
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,000
at it and it's this type of 
crystal or it's this type of 

800
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,680
crystal, you know, we don't get 
too woo woo here. 

801
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,200
But you know, whether you're 
looking at that and and you're 

802
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,640
studying it and you're figuring 
it out and you're seeing that it

803
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,080
has this and that, that's just 
you being present. 

804
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,840
It's just a practice of present.
So it's going to #2. 

805
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,480
But the but the present moment 
practice what I was going to say

806
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,120
or just to kind of piggyback off
of what you just said. 

807
00:42:40,140 --> 00:42:44,180
Another nice, simple present 
moment. 

808
00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:45,820
Practice. 
Keep it simple, they said. 

809
00:42:45,820 --> 00:42:47,500
Dwayne, you know, you're a 
little smart and trying to 

810
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:49,620
figure this out on your own. 
We need you to keep it simple. 

811
00:42:50,340 --> 00:42:53,700
It's just, God help me offer my 
presence. 

812
00:42:54,940 --> 00:42:57,980
That's it. 
I'm having a hard time being 

813
00:42:57,980 --> 00:43:00,180
present. 
I'm thinking about getting 

814
00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:02,300
drugs. 
I got to call the drug dealer. 

815
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:03,460
They took my phone. 
I can't. 

816
00:43:03,580 --> 00:43:05,140
I can't call the drug dealer. 
How am I going to? 

817
00:43:05,260 --> 00:43:07,180
My skin's crawling. 
I'm having a difficult time 

818
00:43:07,180 --> 00:43:10,980
being present. 
Well, let's get in contact with 

819
00:43:10,980 --> 00:43:13,700
the appropriate power that can 
help me be present. 

820
00:43:13,940 --> 00:43:18,060
Keep it simple, God help me be 
present, bro. 

821
00:43:18,060 --> 00:43:20,740
I found this little tool, this 
little nugget. 

822
00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:25,420
This is getting good around 8-8 
years sober. 

823
00:43:25,740 --> 00:43:27,580
I found this little nugget 
around 8 years sober. 

824
00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:29,860
That was when the ex fiance 
left. 

825
00:43:30,180 --> 00:43:33,700
My ego had to crack open. 
I had to learn what my real 

826
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:36,260
identity was. 
But is my identity my 

827
00:43:36,260 --> 00:43:40,610
relationship? 
And sex or is my identity, God, 

828
00:43:40,610 --> 00:43:46,970
consciousness and presence. 
So I I I started down this 

829
00:43:46,970 --> 00:43:52,730
journey of realizing and having 
an inner knowing of my 

830
00:43:52,730 --> 00:43:55,370
identities. 
Actually wrapped up in sources 

831
00:43:55,370 --> 00:43:59,170
is wrapped up in spirit. 
And I was working at a 

832
00:43:59,170 --> 00:44:03,530
restaurant at the time. 
Is very easy in a restaurant 

833
00:44:03,530 --> 00:44:06,510
environment to judge people. 
Very. 

834
00:44:06,590 --> 00:44:09,710
The one common thing in any 
restaurant is drama. 

835
00:44:10,190 --> 00:44:11,630
Every single restaurant has 
drama. 

836
00:44:11,870 --> 00:44:14,590
It's chicken, and people treat 
it like life and death. 

837
00:44:15,110 --> 00:44:17,070
And every single restaurant has 
that. 

838
00:44:17,150 --> 00:44:20,310
It's it's fast, it's it's quick,
it's constantly moving. 

839
00:44:20,310 --> 00:44:22,750
It's you. 
Got customers and they're coming

840
00:44:22,750 --> 00:44:23,390
in. 
Chaotic. 

841
00:44:23,390 --> 00:44:25,590
And they're insane. 
They're just as insane as the 

842
00:44:25,590 --> 00:44:27,230
employees. 
That's if there's alcohol. 

843
00:44:27,550 --> 00:44:30,510
It's yes and and people are 
dropping levels of vibration, 

844
00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:33,350
dropping levels of consciousness
because they're drinking and. 

845
00:44:35,180 --> 00:44:36,980
You know what? 
I'm trying to navigate all of 

846
00:44:36,980 --> 00:44:41,740
this, and I used to approach the
table and my vibration was 

847
00:44:42,020 --> 00:44:47,100
immediately emitting fear. 
My vibration was immediately 

848
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:51,580
emitting A nervousness, or my 
vibration was immediately 

849
00:44:51,580 --> 00:44:57,060
emitting judgment. 
You better tip me the amount I 

850
00:44:57,060 --> 00:45:00,410
deserve. 
My vibration was immediately 

851
00:45:00,690 --> 00:45:03,090
emitting anger. 
Dude, this is so helpful. 

852
00:45:03,090 --> 00:45:05,610
It's could be in a meeting. 
I do this with meetings, work 

853
00:45:05,610 --> 00:45:06,450
meetings. 
Absolutely. 

854
00:45:06,850 --> 00:45:08,290
Coming into the meeting with 
fear. 

855
00:45:09,490 --> 00:45:11,570
Yes. 
Dude, this is like so powerful. 

856
00:45:11,570 --> 00:45:13,370
You're not realizing what you're
saying right now with people 

857
00:45:13,370 --> 00:45:15,370
that are listening. 
This is going to be such a help 

858
00:45:15,370 --> 00:45:19,130
because that chaos, yes, that 
craziness then that fear. 

859
00:45:19,370 --> 00:45:20,770
It's how most people are 
approaching things. 

860
00:45:21,210 --> 00:45:25,090
Their entire life? 
Yes, I I, I I talked to the 

861
00:45:25,090 --> 00:45:28,250
operator on the phone because I 
didn't get my package delivered.

862
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:31,500
And I'm coming from the 
vibration of You did me wrong. 

863
00:45:32,180 --> 00:45:35,140
I would never articulate with my
words at the table. 

864
00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:38,460
Hey, if you don't tip me right, 
I'm going to be pissed. 

865
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:42,980
I would never say that out loud,
but energetically they are 

866
00:45:42,980 --> 00:45:45,220
reading my energy. 
Human beings are much like 

867
00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:47,380
magnets. 
Chinese medicine figured this 

868
00:45:47,380 --> 00:45:50,020
out 3000 years ago. 
We admit a magnetic field. 

869
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:52,700
In quantum physics you would 
call it particle wave. 

870
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:56,940
The particle is matter and the 
wave. 

871
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,880
Is energy. 
Yes, that energy is carrying 

872
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,360
information and science has 
proven that that energy, that 

873
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,760
particle wave, that particle 
wave can be 9 meters in 

874
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,960
circumference. 
So my energy has the power to 

875
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,480
effect 27 feet in circumference 
around me. 

876
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Extremely powerful. 
So fear when a crazy person is 

877
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,790
walking down the street. 
You everybody can feel it. 

878
00:46:25,790 --> 00:46:29,990
You can you go to the other side
of the street to avoid this And 

879
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:33,550
so we're emitting energy. 
So instead of this at this man, 

880
00:46:33,550 --> 00:46:36,030
I'm telling you this eight 
years, this eight-year mark was 

881
00:46:36,030 --> 00:46:39,590
so huge for me instead of 
approaching and I was at work, 

882
00:46:39,590 --> 00:46:43,110
so I was trying to practice 
spiritual principle in my work 

883
00:46:43,110 --> 00:46:45,470
environment. 
Instead of approaching the table

884
00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:48,870
in this restaurant with my fear,
with my judgment, I started 

885
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:51,760
approaching the table. 
With my presence. 

886
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,960
Yes, keep it simple, stupid. 
I would literally walk to the 

887
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,200
table praying God help me offer 
my presence. 

888
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,280
God help me offer my presence. 
God help me offer my presence. 

889
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,440
So my presence is not 
judgmental. 

890
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,800
My presence is not afraid. 
You know, it's amazing. 

891
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,360
That's about the exact time I 
met you. 

892
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,080
That's true at the restaurant. 
And I'm not saying that's like 

893
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,120
some significant thing, but I 
mean, we're doing this podcast, 

894
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:15,840
that's. 
Probably not by. 

895
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,680
Action and we're Yeah, exactly. 
I mean, that was manifested, 

896
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,800
yeah. 
And and it wasn't you being 

897
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,840
based off of fear. 
No, no. 

898
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,520
So God help me offer my 
presence. 

899
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:31,160
Jason, how comfortable does it 
feel to be in someone else's God

900
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,200
centered presence? 
It feels so good, bro. 

901
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,480
I can just be who I am. 
I don't have to behave in a 

902
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,200
certain way. 
I don't have to show up a 

903
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,640
certain way. 
I don't have to do what you 

904
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,720
think I need to do because then 
you'll be OK. 

905
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,000
It feels so good being in 
someone's presence. 

906
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,360
People started throwing money at
me. 

907
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,000
I I had. 
That was not my intention. 

908
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,640
My intention was to heal this. 
Yeah, because when you were. 

909
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,320
Working in relationships. 
You were making five times more 

910
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,880
than any other person, hands 
down, making more than the 

911
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,280
managers. 
It was. 

912
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,160
It was a lot of money. 
People started the rowing money 

913
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,400
at me and then to articulate 
that to the rest of the staff or

914
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,440
to articulate that to a manager,
they couldn't understand what 

915
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,720
are you doing? 
I said, well, I'm just offering 

916
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:17,700
my presence. 
Not really. 

917
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:18,860
That's the most powerful. 
Thing. 

918
00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:23,460
But that's how powerful it was. 
People had an energetic response

919
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:26,500
to my presence. 
I was no longer offering them my

920
00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:28,700
fear. 
I was no longer offering them my

921
00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:31,260
judgment and my anger. 
I was just offering them the 

922
00:48:31,260 --> 00:48:33,780
part of me which allowed them to
be whoever they were. 

923
00:48:34,260 --> 00:48:37,300
And they had a blast and they 
treated me accordingly. 

924
00:48:38,180 --> 00:48:39,940
It was fantastic. 
It was fantastic. 

925
00:48:39,980 --> 00:48:43,780
And especially for an insane 
environment like a restaurant. 

926
00:48:44,490 --> 00:48:48,050
To be my practice ground. 
So grateful that that was my 

927
00:48:48,090 --> 00:48:50,330
practice ground. 
That's where I got to practice 

928
00:48:51,410 --> 00:48:54,410
presence first. 
And what a nice tool. 

929
00:48:54,410 --> 00:48:56,410
Simple could keep it simple. 
Stupid. 

930
00:48:57,890 --> 00:49:00,490
God help me offer my presence. 
That's so good. 

931
00:49:00,490 --> 00:49:02,730
I love that. 
Let's get into the next one 

932
00:49:03,130 --> 00:49:04,210
because I think we nailed that 
one. 

933
00:49:04,210 --> 00:49:07,410
I mean, that's like perfect. 
I really appreciate that. 

934
00:49:07,410 --> 00:49:10,330
That helped me out. 
This one is the hardest one for 

935
00:49:10,330 --> 00:49:12,080
me. 
Like, I mean honestly, like 

936
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,800
allow yourself to rest. 
That one's pretty good. 

937
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,920
You know my ego likes that when 
you're I work seven days a week,

938
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,000
whatever. 
Practice, radical self love. 

939
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,440
This is really hard because you 
know, my ULP is I'm not good 

940
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,280
enough. 
So that's, you know And then and

941
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,240
I want you to share with this 
because you were talking 

942
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,720
something about this. 
We were talking something about 

943
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:33,840
this the other day about how 
much we bully ourselves, how 

944
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,240
much our ego bullies us, and 
then how horrific we are to 

945
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:39,440
ourselves. 
Yeah, yeah, we'd like to say. 

946
00:49:40,290 --> 00:49:43,650
And you know our our teaching 
and expansion and with a present

947
00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:47,730
moment practice, one of our 
tools is if anyone was as hard 

948
00:49:47,730 --> 00:49:52,490
on me as I am on myself, I'd 
beat the shit out of them. 

949
00:49:53,410 --> 00:49:55,490
I don't let people be this mean 
to me. 

950
00:49:55,610 --> 00:49:59,650
I'm a decorated champion 
bodybuilder like I get on stage 

951
00:49:59,650 --> 00:50:02,530
and I win trophies because my 
body looks so good. 

952
00:50:03,730 --> 00:50:06,250
Two weeks ago I was in the 
mirror assassinating my 

953
00:50:06,250 --> 00:50:08,810
character. 
You have fat piece of shit. 

954
00:50:08,810 --> 00:50:10,370
Look at you. 
How could you let yourself give 

955
00:50:10,730 --> 00:50:14,210
and still, you know, top 
percentile, whatever and and I 

956
00:50:14,210 --> 00:50:17,210
can easily go there. 
And get your app show. 

957
00:50:17,490 --> 00:50:21,970
This is my app show year round 
and I'm calling myself a fat 

958
00:50:21,970 --> 00:50:27,810
piece of shit. 
And how delusional, how easy is 

959
00:50:27,810 --> 00:50:33,370
it for the ego to sneak in in my
vulnerable spots and my spots 

960
00:50:33,370 --> 00:50:35,770
that aren't healed and take 
over? 

961
00:50:36,250 --> 00:50:37,860
Oh. 
Be hard on yourself. 

962
00:50:38,020 --> 00:50:44,340
Go ahead, tear yourself apart. 
I walk around 365 with visible 

963
00:50:44,340 --> 00:50:47,980
abs and I and I can call myself 
fat and a piece of shit. 

964
00:50:48,420 --> 00:50:51,820
It's it's delusional. 
But that also drops my vibration

965
00:50:52,180 --> 00:50:54,700
and it makes it easier for me to
behave in my addiction. 

966
00:50:55,300 --> 00:50:58,780
Do you think because I've done a
lot of self-awareness practice 

967
00:50:58,780 --> 00:51:04,460
with myself on this, I think 
it's an excuse for me to focus 

968
00:51:04,620 --> 00:51:07,330
narcissically on myself? 
And I don't want to kind of. 

969
00:51:07,330 --> 00:51:08,730
I don't want to do vague with 
ego. 

970
00:51:08,730 --> 00:51:10,970
I want to kind of get really 
specific on this. 

971
00:51:12,490 --> 00:51:15,570
It's hard for, it's hard for me 
to accept compliments from 

972
00:51:15,570 --> 00:51:18,130
people. 
Yes, very good, Jason. 

973
00:51:18,130 --> 00:51:19,770
You know what I mean? 
Like if somebody, if somebody 

974
00:51:19,770 --> 00:51:22,330
said hey Jason, you're doing a 
good job, I'm like yay or 

975
00:51:22,330 --> 00:51:24,450
whatever, we need to work harder
and do this better. 

976
00:51:24,450 --> 00:51:26,290
My instant response, it's 
almost. 

977
00:51:26,490 --> 00:51:28,810
Like you brush it away. 
Yeah, like like somebody telling

978
00:51:28,810 --> 00:51:30,730
me they love me or something 
like that. 

979
00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:32,010
You know? 
I have to really. 

980
00:51:33,010 --> 00:51:35,850
It's like I have to really 
practice. 

981
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,120
Like accepting it and and that's
really hard to do whenever. 

982
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,040
And then I really, really want 
us to look at this like 

983
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,400
understanding when somebody 
picks you up at the hospital at 

984
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,480
5:30 in the morning and you 
called him probably at 4:35. 

985
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:53,720
Yeah. 
And then they get up. 

986
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,640
You know that he's comfortable 
laying in a warm bed. 

987
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,440
It's snowy outside. 6 inches of 
fresh. 

988
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,960
He's with his girlfriend, warm, 
another warm body. 

989
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,360
The worst thing that would 
happen is. 

990
00:52:05,810 --> 00:52:10,850
Some stupid addict young punk 
kid calls me and now I got to go

991
00:52:10,850 --> 00:52:13,570
to this stupid hospital to pick 
this dumb fuck up. 

992
00:52:14,290 --> 00:52:14,930
You know? 
I mean that. 

993
00:52:14,930 --> 00:52:20,330
That's ego saying all that. 
Instead, it's this whole idea of

994
00:52:20,330 --> 00:52:25,570
him taking the time out of his 
schedule to come show love to 

995
00:52:25,570 --> 00:52:27,610
you. 
Why would he do that? 

996
00:52:29,410 --> 00:52:33,140
Because he knows what you. 
Well, he knows he understands 

997
00:52:33,140 --> 00:52:36,060
love. 
He understands he's valuing 

998
00:52:36,060 --> 00:52:38,820
more, valuing you more than 
you're valuing yourself. 

999
00:52:39,060 --> 00:52:41,700
I don't know if he would have 
had the words to articulate it 

1000
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:46,380
then, but when he's coming to 
pick me up, showing love to me, 

1001
00:52:46,580 --> 00:52:49,100
he's simultaneously showing love
to himself. 

1002
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:54,220
He's simultaneously honoring the
God consciousness inside of him 

1003
00:52:54,540 --> 00:52:57,340
that knows this is the integral 
thing to do. 

1004
00:52:58,990 --> 00:53:01,390
This is the you're you're you're
dead right. 

1005
00:53:01,510 --> 00:53:05,390
This is the hardest one by far. 
Like if if not resting is hard. 

1006
00:53:05,390 --> 00:53:07,110
This seems impossible. 
Yeah, when? 

1007
00:53:07,110 --> 00:53:09,110
Eckhart Tolle. 
That said, if you really want to

1008
00:53:09,110 --> 00:53:12,510
practice love, show up at a 
family Thanksgiving. 

1009
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:16,070
Yes, yeah. 
Because we're just so judgmental

1010
00:53:16,070 --> 00:53:18,230
with our family. 
And it was like, Oh my God, my 

1011
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:20,590
uncle's coming over and he's 
going to talk to me for two 

1012
00:53:20,590 --> 00:53:22,430
hours straight. 
Let me see if I can. 

1013
00:53:22,430 --> 00:53:24,190
I need another drink to handle 
this. 

1014
00:53:24,590 --> 00:53:26,670
You know, it's it's just like 
constant oh, look at. 

1015
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,140
You know, look at my mom. 
I can't believe she's acting 

1016
00:53:29,140 --> 00:53:30,820
this way. 
Or you know it. 

1017
00:53:30,820 --> 00:53:36,780
It's it's so tough. 
But the reason that we're 

1018
00:53:36,780 --> 00:53:40,940
judging for me, I'm going to say
for me, the reason I judge 

1019
00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:46,180
others is because I feel like my
my ego likes it to be like 

1020
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:48,140
Jason, look at you. 
You're good. 

1021
00:53:48,380 --> 00:53:53,340
Yeah, like I need to find pieces
of shit Are people that I feel 

1022
00:53:53,340 --> 00:53:57,250
are worse off than me? 
To give myself kind of a ego pat

1023
00:53:57,370 --> 00:54:01,290
on the back and it's it's like 
you know you were telling me of 

1024
00:54:01,290 --> 00:54:04,970
a circumstance with your and I 
don't wanna get too personal 

1025
00:54:04,970 --> 00:54:07,370
here but you're telling me 
circumstance with with something

1026
00:54:07,370 --> 00:54:12,810
that you're facing now with a 
client and instantly instantly I

1027
00:54:12,810 --> 00:54:14,410
went into hardcore judgment 
mode. 

1028
00:54:14,490 --> 00:54:16,690
Yeah it's easier. 
Instantly I went into hardcore 

1029
00:54:16,890 --> 00:54:18,610
and then I compared it to me 
yeah. 

1030
00:54:19,410 --> 00:54:23,010
And I'm like you know why joins 
friend and I do a podcast and. 

1031
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,360
You know, he's my trainer, you 
know, and I and I pay him on 

1032
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,080
time and you know, the list goes
on and on, you know what I mean?

1033
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,360
I don't have problems with 
money. 

1034
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,800
Yeah, I don't have, which I do. 
I mean, I checked my bank 

1035
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,080
account, you know, multiple 
times a day worrying that, you 

1036
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,000
know, the the money thief is 
going to come in there or the 

1037
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,000
bank's going to screw up or 
something's going to happen. 

1038
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,200
I literally, this is so funny 
with my girlfriend. 

1039
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,040
I was literally stressing about 
money so much last month. 

1040
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:50,150
I was stressing so much. 
I thought I probably had $1400 

1041
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:52,430
in my checking account because I
have investments and stuff like 

1042
00:54:52,430 --> 00:54:56,190
that, but I was worried about 
like I had to pay this bill so I

1043
00:54:56,190 --> 00:54:57,950
thought I had 14. 
And I'm not. 

1044
00:54:57,950 --> 00:55:00,510
This isn't a brag or anything 
like this, but this just shows 

1045
00:55:00,510 --> 00:55:04,230
you how silly my ego is. 
I thought I had $1400 in my bank

1046
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:05,950
account. 
If you would have said put a gun

1047
00:55:05,950 --> 00:55:08,030
to my head and said Jason, how 
much money do you have in your 

1048
00:55:08,030 --> 00:55:10,110
checking account, in this 
checking account that you pay 

1049
00:55:10,110 --> 00:55:12,230
your bills with? 
I just said probably about 1400 

1050
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:13,590
bucks, you know, and I'm kind of
getting nervous. 

1051
00:55:14,830 --> 00:55:17,790
I I clicked it on and I had 
$7000 in there. 

1052
00:55:17,830 --> 00:55:20,310
Yeah, yeah, it's good. 
And I. 

1053
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:21,950
Almost was like, where did this 
money come from? 

1054
00:55:22,750 --> 00:55:24,630
That's not real. 
Yeah, that's not real. 

1055
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:26,430
No, that's real. 
That's the wrong type of that's 

1056
00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:28,990
not real. 
My mind loves fear. 

1057
00:55:28,990 --> 00:55:34,310
My ego loves fear because that's
the only place my ego can exist 

1058
00:55:34,510 --> 00:55:37,430
in my mind. 
So I lose myself in these 

1059
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:39,390
fearful thoughts. 
I lose myself in these 

1060
00:55:39,390 --> 00:55:44,120
judgmental thoughts and. 
I'm definitely not practicing 

1061
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,960
radical self love, you know, 
That's why this is such a hard 

1062
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,520
one. 
The hard surrender healing 

1063
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:58,160
practice is because I cannot be 
offering love if I'm offering 

1064
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,680
ego. 
I cannot be offering love if I'm

1065
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,600
offering selfishness. 
And if, if I think I am, there's

1066
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,120
usually some underlying hook of 
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm going to be 

1067
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,200
real nice. 
I'm going to be. 

1068
00:56:10,590 --> 00:56:13,910
I'm very kind here, but I have 
selfish motives underneath that 

1069
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:15,670
because I'm trying to get what I
want from you. 

1070
00:56:16,110 --> 00:56:20,030
And man, what a, what a powerful
thing to start practicing. 

1071
00:56:20,030 --> 00:56:23,310
Very simple tool, nice easy 
tool, but very, very. 

1072
00:56:23,310 --> 00:56:26,350
I mean, it's simple out loud, 
but the practicality, the 

1073
00:56:26,350 --> 00:56:28,910
practicing is difficult. 
You know what? 

1074
00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:31,870
We talked about Bobby coming to 
pick me up. 

1075
00:56:32,070 --> 00:56:35,870
I think that opens the door. 
When I start being kind to 

1076
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:38,990
others, when I start showing 
love to others, genuine love to 

1077
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:40,470
others. 
Not wanting anything returned, 

1078
00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:43,510
not having selfish hooks 
underneath my behavior, just 

1079
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:46,590
offering love. 
I think that opens the door for 

1080
00:56:46,590 --> 00:56:50,710
me to start loving myself. 
At least I'm practicing. 

1081
00:56:51,140 --> 00:56:52,820
At least I'm practicing showing 
love. 

1082
00:56:52,820 --> 00:56:56,180
At least I'm practicing honoring
the God of consciousness inside 

1083
00:56:56,180 --> 00:56:59,460
of someone instead of making 
decisions because I want to get 

1084
00:56:59,460 --> 00:57:01,220
something. 
Yeah, perfect practice for me, 

1085
00:57:01,220 --> 00:57:04,300
and I learned this several years
ago, was to look at myself in 

1086
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:06,060
the mirror. 
It helps if you're if. 

1087
00:57:06,060 --> 00:57:09,500
You're naked, so good. 
And because you, I do the same 

1088
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:12,060
thing you do. 
It's like, oh, look at you're a 

1089
00:57:12,060 --> 00:57:12,940
piece of shit. 
Look at this. 

1090
00:57:12,940 --> 00:57:14,780
You workout, you do all the 
stuff and you still got this 

1091
00:57:14,780 --> 00:57:16,020
problem. 
What you're eating good and what

1092
00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:19,580
you still look like this, you 
know all these things is to say 

1093
00:57:19,580 --> 00:57:22,140
I love you, Yeah. 
It's so hard to do. 

1094
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:24,580
Try it. 
Look in a mirror and be really 

1095
00:57:24,580 --> 00:57:27,580
sincere and you'll start 
laughing. 

1096
00:57:27,580 --> 00:57:30,220
You'll start crying, you'll 
start, you'll go. 

1097
00:57:30,220 --> 00:57:34,500
I love you, Jason, but but the 
but you know you need to do this

1098
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:36,780
and this and you need to like 
this has to happen. 

1099
00:57:36,860 --> 00:57:40,660
I love you but and it's really 
hard to do. 

1100
00:57:40,660 --> 00:57:43,200
It's harder than you think. 
It's extremely difficult. 

1101
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,000
To do, but I want to get back to
you serving the tables with the 

1102
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,080
the with the presence of fear. 
Because the Apostle Paul in the 

1103
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,040
scriptures in the New Testament 
he says perfect love casts out 

1104
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,760
fear. 
Yes, so the opposite of love is 

1105
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,600
fear. 
So if you're approaching 

1106
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:02,640
yourself in every circumstance, 
if your reality is fear, no love

1107
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,760
can enter in. 
It's not possible. 

1108
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,280
And then that energy that I'm 
vibrating at. 

1109
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,200
Affects everyone around me. 
It's like a disease. 

1110
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,560
It it it infects them. 
They just if they don't have 

1111
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,600
powerful tools to be present, 
they just meet me at my 

1112
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,160
vibration. 
So now you got two fearful 

1113
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:27,040
people having an interaction 
where I'm supposed to get money.

1114
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,480
It doesn't go well. 
No, it doesn't. 

1115
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,200
And I think that's our present 
state with politics, absolutely,

1116
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,680
especially here in the United 
States. 

1117
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,920
For some of you that aren't in 
the United States, you just 

1118
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:36,760
laugh at us. 
But. 

1119
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,600
It's just all fear based. 
If if this doesn't happen or 

1120
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,120
this person doesn't get in an 
office, then this is going to 

1121
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,920
bad happen and they just play 
these these puppets of 

1122
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,120
corporations and these 
politicians on both sides just 

1123
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,880
play this game of fear. 
They're just constantly just 

1124
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,600
throwing those seeds of fear 
into you and getting you riled 

1125
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,080
up and getting you at the point 
to where you feel like. 

1126
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,280
You're a victim and you're 
hopeless. 

1127
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,080
And they're the savior. 
So good, very good. 

1128
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,520
That's that's the that's a very 
powerful perspective because if 

1129
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:16,000
I know that I'm not the victim 
of the tyrannical structure and 

1130
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,080
it's important to understand for
me that the tyrannical structure

1131
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:23,880
is not necessarily the political
system, it's how my mind 

1132
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,560
responds. 
That, yes, that's. 

1133
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,960
When the when, whoever the 
political system. 

1134
00:59:28,610 --> 00:59:34,090
Is putting that energy on me 
very easy to get lost in fear, 

1135
00:59:34,930 --> 00:59:40,050
very easy to get lost in guilt 
and unfortunately the government

1136
00:59:40,050 --> 00:59:42,530
knows that and they know how to 
control us with fear and guilt.

