1 00:00:18,550 --> 00:00:23,550 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll podcast project by The 2 00:00:23,550 --> 00:00:25,070 Adventure Archive. My name is Ryan. 3 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:30,150 And I'm a lost cannibal. And with us, we have a couple of 4 00:00:30,150 --> 00:00:32,870 very special guests today. We have David Blandy and Daniel 5 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:36,190 Locke talking about Eco Mofos today. 6 00:00:36,190 --> 00:00:38,950 How are you guys doing? You're going good. 7 00:00:38,950 --> 00:00:40,310 Thanks very much for having this on. 8 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:41,510 Thanks. For going on. 9 00:00:42,950 --> 00:00:44,430 Really good. The weather is good here. 10 00:00:46,070 --> 00:00:50,150 It is not great. It is not great here, I assume. 11 00:00:50,390 --> 00:00:54,270 I assume that means warm versus like boiling over here, Yeah. 12 00:00:54,650 --> 00:00:57,730 It's been it's been windy and rainy recently, and today it was 13 00:00:57,730 --> 00:01:01,690 sunny, so it's nice, you know? I'm in Texas. 14 00:01:01,690 --> 00:01:04,250 I'm in Dallas, TX, which has been currently hotter than I 15 00:01:04,250 --> 00:01:08,730 think 99% of the world, and it has been over 100, a lot. 16 00:01:09,050 --> 00:01:11,010 So wow, that's Yeah, that's too hot. 17 00:01:11,090 --> 00:01:15,610 That's too much. Yeah, yeah, I I sleep all day 18 00:01:15,610 --> 00:01:18,210 and just ignore all of that. That's what I do. 19 00:01:19,130 --> 00:01:21,510 So. So. 20 00:01:21,550 --> 00:01:22,630 David. Daniel. 21 00:01:22,750 --> 00:01:23,950 David who? So who? 22 00:01:24,030 --> 00:01:25,310 Who the heck are you guys? What are you? 23 00:01:25,310 --> 00:01:26,950 What are you? What are you doing here, David, 24 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:30,830 Tell us about Tell us about yourself and and what brings you 25 00:01:30,830 --> 00:01:35,590 to a tabletop RPG podcast? Well yeah. 26 00:01:35,590 --> 00:01:40,470 I'm a tabletop role-playing game designer and fine artist, and 27 00:01:40,470 --> 00:01:47,150 I've been making games for the last 5-6 years, starting with 28 00:01:47,150 --> 00:01:51,660 more kind of. I came from 5E, I guess coming 29 00:01:51,660 --> 00:01:55,820 back into the hobby after kind of loving the red box when I was 30 00:01:55,820 --> 00:01:59,260 little and stuff. And then actually through 31 00:01:59,260 --> 00:02:04,180 playing with Dan we we had some sessions formed a little crew in 32 00:02:04,180 --> 00:02:09,220 in Brighton which is where we both live and then yeah, first 33 00:02:09,220 --> 00:02:12,220 of all started a home brew campaign and then. 34 00:02:12,890 --> 00:02:14,690 Started getting slightly frustrated with the rules. 35 00:02:16,050 --> 00:02:19,570 They kind of looked for different ways to to have fun at 36 00:02:19,570 --> 00:02:24,330 the table with people and yeah, found the whole indie scene. 37 00:02:24,330 --> 00:02:30,290 Started getting into FKR and yeah, looked at things like 2400 38 00:02:30,290 --> 00:02:34,250 by Jason Tocci, which is what Lost Eons one of my previous 39 00:02:34,250 --> 00:02:37,930 games is based on. And yeah, really interested in 40 00:02:37,930 --> 00:02:42,330 solo gaming like, yeah, Low Neons, which is the solo version 41 00:02:42,330 --> 00:02:44,650 or? People which is based on crisp 42 00:02:44,650 --> 00:02:46,530 assets. The Wretched. 43 00:02:46,930 --> 00:02:49,730 So yeah just kind of went through all that. 44 00:02:49,730 --> 00:02:53,690 And then yeah, recently I've wanted to move more into sort of 45 00:02:55,370 --> 00:03:00,250 yeah, I guess the OSR in some ways looking at Chris Mcdowell's 46 00:03:00,490 --> 00:03:05,890 into the yard and your high gals Ken and seeing yeah, what the 47 00:03:05,890 --> 00:03:09,650 possibilities are there with with that for telling the sorts 48 00:03:09,650 --> 00:03:11,850 of stories that I want to with with with games. 49 00:03:12,650 --> 00:03:15,250 Yeah, that's that's my, that's my table top story. 50 00:03:15,250 --> 00:03:19,370 What about you, Dan? So I'm yeah, like David said I 51 00:03:19,370 --> 00:03:23,850 live in Brighton in the UK as well and David and I basically I 52 00:03:23,850 --> 00:03:26,090 sort of tag along where David goes and. 53 00:03:26,570 --> 00:03:29,050 We it's not true. That is true. 54 00:03:29,770 --> 00:03:33,610 I I think weirdly, like we've known each other for about 20 55 00:03:33,610 --> 00:03:36,730 odd years, went to college together, so got a lot of shared 56 00:03:36,730 --> 00:03:38,610 interests. And I think weirdly, we both 57 00:03:38,610 --> 00:03:41,650 started looking back at the stuff we liked. 58 00:03:42,150 --> 00:03:45,270 When we were little like you know for me it was Games 59 00:03:45,270 --> 00:03:50,110 Workshop and and Miniatures and the Red Box and stuff like that. 60 00:03:50,110 --> 00:03:53,150 And we would sort of start having these conversations about 61 00:03:53,150 --> 00:03:57,030 how picked up this, you know, Doug, the Red Box out the attic 62 00:03:57,030 --> 00:04:00,310 or whatever and just sort of rediscovering it again. 63 00:04:00,310 --> 00:04:04,750 And for me that was about five years ago and the IT was really 64 00:04:04,750 --> 00:04:06,950 the pandemic that sort of consolidated. 65 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,160 Consolidated my my current, like obsession with that, I should 66 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,080 say like my day job is, is being a cartoonist and a graphic 67 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,079 novelist. So it's only really like a 68 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,680 sidestep. So I generally work with 69 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,959 scientists and help them communicate their research. 70 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,000 But yeah, like in that in that role I'm introduced to loads of 71 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,400 really bonkers ideas and I'm a scifi obsessive and fancy fan 72 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,800 and all of that. So it doesn't take much for my 73 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,130 brain to start wanting to draw. Humanoid rats. 74 00:04:39,170 --> 00:04:41,170 And. Enormous mistakes. 75 00:04:41,770 --> 00:04:45,330 No, you fit right in then, yeah. There we go. 76 00:04:46,210 --> 00:04:50,130 Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's gotta be great having a team where 77 00:04:50,370 --> 00:04:51,890 David's making these amazing games. 78 00:04:51,890 --> 00:04:53,410 You have a fantastic artist together. 79 00:04:53,610 --> 00:04:58,640 Do you guys do a lot of? Like back and forth with that 80 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,000 like you know you come up with something and then David you 81 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,720 like you know stat it up or or vice versa like how, how does 82 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,160 that kind of relationship play out in in the design? 83 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,880 Yeah, it's really organic. I mean, I came to, I came to Dan 84 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,560 with this project and yeah, he, he, he really, really loved it. 85 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:22,080 And but it's not like I'm saying right here's, I don't know, 86 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,080 here's a tentacle. He'll illustrate this. 87 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,490 It was more like here's a book. What kind of vibes does it give 88 00:05:28,490 --> 00:05:32,010 you? And yeah, draw some stuff, Let's 89 00:05:32,010 --> 00:05:35,050 see what we can do with it and then done. 90 00:05:35,050 --> 00:05:36,810 How did how did you take that on? 91 00:05:37,490 --> 00:05:40,650 Yeah, it's like as you say, it's really organic and like you 92 00:05:40,650 --> 00:05:42,610 know, as I said, David and I have known each other for so 93 00:05:42,610 --> 00:05:44,730 long. So I think it's really rooted in 94 00:05:44,730 --> 00:05:46,130 our friendship and just trying to. 95 00:05:46,810 --> 00:05:49,330 The first stop for me is just trying to make something that 96 00:05:49,330 --> 00:05:51,810 will entertain David and something maybe that'll add a 97 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:56,570 bit of value, something you know, with daily contact on, 98 00:05:56,610 --> 00:06:00,210 especially on Discord. So there's a lot of sharing or 99 00:06:00,210 --> 00:06:04,770 some pictures that we found or like weird sci-fi front covers 100 00:06:05,250 --> 00:06:06,850 and a lot of, yeah. That's my job. 101 00:06:07,330 --> 00:06:11,890 Yeah, I love. We've got some really good we've 102 00:06:11,890 --> 00:06:13,150 got. There are some pretty good 103 00:06:13,150 --> 00:06:17,190 second hand shops in in Brighton, a really good stall 104 00:06:17,190 --> 00:06:21,510 actually in the open market which which has a nice stash of 105 00:06:21,750 --> 00:06:25,430 of 60s seventies sci-fi. And then yeah, I kind of treat 106 00:06:25,430 --> 00:06:29,070 myself for a couple every every now and then and I've got like 107 00:06:29,110 --> 00:06:33,870 you know, too many paperbacks now, both of them just bought, 108 00:06:34,110 --> 00:06:37,230 just bought for the front cover. Yeah, but. 109 00:06:39,930 --> 00:06:42,330 The colors are gorgeous. I wish that style would come 110 00:06:42,330 --> 00:06:43,850 back. I mean, it sounds like you guys 111 00:06:43,850 --> 00:06:47,450 have a nice kind of like what Robert Plant and Jimmy Page kind 112 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:49,770 of thing going on where one can inspire the other. 113 00:06:49,770 --> 00:06:51,610 So, but. True, actually, because I'm 114 00:06:51,650 --> 00:06:54,370 wearing a tshirt now, but normally I'm bare chested with a 115 00:06:54,370 --> 00:06:56,970 waistcoat, so. Yeah. 116 00:06:57,490 --> 00:06:59,250 Just. Just don't steal as much from 117 00:06:59,250 --> 00:07:03,210 them and you'll be you'll be as successful, you know, but you 118 00:07:03,210 --> 00:07:06,140 guys are here. We're talking about eco Mofos 119 00:07:06,140 --> 00:07:08,220 fantastic game that's currently funding right now on 120 00:07:08,220 --> 00:07:11,940 Kickstarter. Just what what is eco mofos and 121 00:07:11,940 --> 00:07:15,700 what was the impetus to kind of I know you said you know from 5E 122 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:20,380 to into the odd and Karen was kind of the path but but why 123 00:07:20,380 --> 00:07:24,540 specifically eco mofos and and yeah. 124 00:07:26,330 --> 00:07:29,290 Yeah, I've been working on Lost ions for a long time. 125 00:07:29,290 --> 00:07:31,530 Like that was that was kind of the big project. 126 00:07:31,530 --> 00:07:33,970 It's it's 3 zines together kind of. 127 00:07:34,290 --> 00:07:35,730 It's a big kind of design project. 128 00:07:35,730 --> 00:07:39,170 I was working in collaboration with a with a group in in 129 00:07:39,170 --> 00:07:41,290 Cambridge. We came up with lots of law to 130 00:07:41,290 --> 00:07:45,050 do with the area and I liked it and it's sort of like kind of 131 00:07:45,050 --> 00:07:49,530 quite solar punky quite kind of hopeful future but. 132 00:07:51,380 --> 00:07:53,580 I thought it'd be fun to do something with a little bit more 133 00:07:53,580 --> 00:07:59,460 edge, and in a way I was frustrated with the fact that I 134 00:07:59,460 --> 00:08:01,700 don't know that it was so kind of stand alone. 135 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:04,820 It didn't. It didn't kind of connect to the 136 00:08:04,820 --> 00:08:07,060 rest of this, this, the kind of wider. 137 00:08:08,690 --> 00:08:11,850 Kind of gaming universe that that I was seeing happening 138 00:08:11,850 --> 00:08:16,650 with, with all the the things like Michael Anderson's bastards 139 00:08:16,650 --> 00:08:21,210 or like DCC or like, you know, just this this whole kind of 140 00:08:21,210 --> 00:08:24,890 family of different types of games that could kind of just 141 00:08:24,890 --> 00:08:26,450 about be compatible with each other. 142 00:08:26,450 --> 00:08:29,810 But I felt like like lost deals didn't quite fit into that, Like 143 00:08:29,810 --> 00:08:33,090 I couldn't drop a dungeon into there and it makes sense 144 00:08:33,090 --> 00:08:35,250 somehow. So I wanted to. 145 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:38,240 It kind of started as a shit post to be honest. 146 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,080 It was like, what would happen if I mashed together Ken and the 147 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,080 character creation system from Bastards. 148 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,480 The original Bastards, which was just the six types. 149 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,790 So you roll your HP. And then it's, it's and then 150 00:08:54,990 --> 00:08:58,630 it's one of six different classes that you would that you 151 00:08:58,630 --> 00:09:02,430 would have and and I thought you know six, I can do six, why 152 00:09:02,430 --> 00:09:05,750 don't I do 36 because that's you know D66. 153 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:09,230 It's just six times harder, you know, It's not a good yeah. 154 00:09:10,030 --> 00:09:11,990 Exactly. It's just a little bit more work 155 00:09:12,270 --> 00:09:13,790 and then and then of course that kind of. 156 00:09:14,570 --> 00:09:17,770 Because I was hacking it into Ken and kind of, you know, 157 00:09:17,770 --> 00:09:20,570 thinking about into the yard and kind of all the failed careers 158 00:09:20,570 --> 00:09:24,890 and things. Each, each of those, each of 159 00:09:24,890 --> 00:09:28,370 those characters, each of those, those different options had a 160 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:30,970 set of items that would come with them. 161 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:35,290 And that those items were, you know, I kind of, I guess I'd get 162 00:09:35,290 --> 00:09:39,450 more and more into the idea of the. 163 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:44,100 The game bringing you into the vibe and the law through just 164 00:09:45,380 --> 00:09:47,300 your interaction with it. So you don't actually have to 165 00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:50,060 read the game. It's like it's all it's all like 166 00:09:50,060 --> 00:09:53,900 built into the tables or the items that you're given or you 167 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:57,140 know it's not a new idea it's it's it's very much inside you 168 00:09:57,140 --> 00:10:01,820 know the whole philosophy that Chris McDowell and that that 169 00:10:01,820 --> 00:10:04,660 kind of whole lineage of games has has been thinking about, but 170 00:10:04,660 --> 00:10:08,660 it's just you know it it it kind of felt right to me to to do 171 00:10:08,660 --> 00:10:10,860 that for the for the. For these these characters. 172 00:10:11,220 --> 00:10:16,580 And then once I once I had that, then I wanted to create very 173 00:10:16,580 --> 00:10:20,900 much a because I'm a lazy GM. Basically I like to turn up at 174 00:10:20,900 --> 00:10:23,700 the table and just like okay, let's play. 175 00:10:26,420 --> 00:10:30,580 I don't want to be I don't want to be prepping too much so. 176 00:10:30,660 --> 00:10:34,420 So how do I, how do I kind of create a space and a game that 177 00:10:34,420 --> 00:10:38,480 you can just like literally? Come into and start playing 178 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,680 within 5 minutes. Like as long as you kind of 179 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:42,080 understand the system a little bit. 180 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:48,240 And it was to create basically a procedural adventure system. 181 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,920 So you as you travel along, you can kind of roll for what the 182 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,600 next section is. And then that section has like 183 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,960 these these series of D20 tables that that create little 184 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,240 encounters for you, to you, to you to meet up with on your 185 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,440 journey to that next thing. If you then roll up and all the 186 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,560 time you're rolling on this D66. Loop table. 187 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,320 Well, actually it's a D666 loop table, yeah. 188 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,800 And kind of more and more things are coming out. 189 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,920 And sometimes it's like an incredibly rare thing. 190 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,640 It's a bit like, I don't know, like like grinding in Final 191 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,080 Fantasy 5 or six or something where you're going into a forest 192 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,200 and you know that like one in every 200 will be this like, 193 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,400 deadly dragon that has amazing, amazing loot. 194 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:33,960 So you're just going back and forth in the forest and 195 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,680 eventually, like, here it is. So it's like that with the leak, 196 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:41,520 it's like these these key items which are the things that let 197 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,440 you adapt, which are like how you level up essentially their 198 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:52,400 their things in the world like implants and orbs, the kind of 199 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:57,400 spells or maybe some weird mushrooms like that you ingest 200 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,000 and you kind of bring into your body and that kind of and your 201 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,360 body adapts and you have these this kind of extra ability of 202 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,360 some sort like it's kind of like. 203 00:12:06,540 --> 00:12:10,340 It's like Arkana from from into the yard, but it's actually 204 00:12:10,340 --> 00:12:12,460 becomes part of your body. So it's like it's not like a 205 00:12:12,660 --> 00:12:14,780 thing that you can put away. It's like there it is. 206 00:12:14,780 --> 00:12:18,820 It's there and like, so you could conceivably get all 36 207 00:12:18,860 --> 00:12:21,460 kind of adaptations together and be this kind of. 208 00:12:21,970 --> 00:12:25,490 Uber character like in Final Fantasy Tactics where you're 209 00:12:25,490 --> 00:12:28,330 just kind of collecting jobs all the time and like kind of, you 210 00:12:28,330 --> 00:12:31,050 know, you make these ultimate characters, but at the same 211 00:12:31,050 --> 00:12:33,850 time, it's just cool with just the one thing and you know, 212 00:12:33,850 --> 00:12:37,130 they're just different tools to try and solve problems really. 213 00:12:38,130 --> 00:12:42,890 So that was that was the kind of start of it was yeah, that. 214 00:12:43,590 --> 00:12:48,550 Mixture between kind of rules like game play but also no prep 215 00:12:48,550 --> 00:12:50,790 adventures and kind of mashing them together. 216 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:54,750 And and of course that creates a system that is ideal for solo 217 00:12:54,750 --> 00:12:57,550 play because it's like here's a system where you can actually 218 00:12:57,550 --> 00:13:01,470 just just kind of follow the adventure as it goes and and 219 00:13:01,470 --> 00:13:04,950 discover it basically. And the the the dice rolls tell 220 00:13:04,950 --> 00:13:07,270 you what's next and it's yeah, straightforward. 221 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,320 I love that that is exactly the type of game that I I live for. 222 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,440 Like I want to not put up almost at all. 223 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,600 I want to know what the setting feels like more or less. 224 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:22,880 And I really enjoyed that whole like implied by the items, like 225 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,920 the items and stuff implying the setting without it being like a 226 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,280 four to 10 page manual. I think that's something that 227 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,400 David's done so incredibly well though with this is that each of 228 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,040 the tables, there's not like one wasted entry that it's actually 229 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,040 really rich in law. It's just that it's it's 230 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,160 embedded within those tables, you know, and each time you sort 231 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,760 of like use those tables or roll it, roll with those tables, 232 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,080 you're sort of reinventing this law. 233 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,000 It's all vibe and flavor. It's it's awesome. 234 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,580 Well done, David. Yeah. 235 00:13:58,980 --> 00:14:02,100 I mean, yeah, that's, you know, if you're going to have a rules 236 00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:06,700 like game, it's you don't. I guess you also don't need like 237 00:14:06,700 --> 00:14:09,620 a 50 page lore book to go with your world. 238 00:14:09,620 --> 00:14:11,140 It's really nice. We talk about this on the show a 239 00:14:11,140 --> 00:14:14,620 lot of times where like the way that you write a game will 240 00:14:14,620 --> 00:14:19,450 really just innately. Influence the way that people 241 00:14:19,450 --> 00:14:22,210 play your game and the way that people read it. 242 00:14:22,210 --> 00:14:26,010 You know if if all of the tables are little orbits and like every 243 00:14:26,010 --> 00:14:28,770 little part gives you a little bit more it also encourages 244 00:14:28,770 --> 00:14:31,210 people to find all those little parts and read the entire thing. 245 00:14:31,210 --> 00:14:33,730 And I just like skim like an SRD or anything like that. 246 00:14:33,730 --> 00:14:38,050 So it's really you know like you said you know Chris McDowell 247 00:14:38,050 --> 00:14:41,890 with went crazy with that with all the in the odd stuff and 248 00:14:41,890 --> 00:14:43,330 it's really nice to see that spread to. 249 00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:47,950 Spread to the ITO or the the mark of the odd, I was going to 250 00:14:47,950 --> 00:14:50,550 say into that hack like mark of the odd stuff. 251 00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:55,990 So when the projects, when you when you started making 252 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:59,950 designing this project, did you talk to like Dan right away and 253 00:14:59,950 --> 00:15:03,390 were you drawing stuff right off the bat for it or was it pretty 254 00:15:03,390 --> 00:15:06,190 far along before you guys kind of actually came together to to 255 00:15:06,190 --> 00:15:07,960 do this? Yeah, I was. 256 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,560 I was talking to Dan about it the whole time because we just 257 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,280 talk all the time. But it was really, and in the 258 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:21,320 kind of early days I was putting out, I I put out the PDF when it 259 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,840 was like super raw, like those, you know, It was just like the 260 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,000 basic rules. It was how to create a 261 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,680 character. It was some of the adventure 262 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,640 stuff. And yeah, I started getting 263 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:38,440 approached by people like Aaron Catoire and Brandon Ye and they 264 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,080 they were just really into the project already and kind of just 265 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,840 drawing stuff die off the bat, like kind of just inspired by 266 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:51,600 the by the law to to make stuff. And I started showing the 267 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,880 project to Dan and kind of like, you know, I kind of. 268 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,760 You know I I just made this as a as a crazy project but actually 269 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,400 I I think I kind of like it like it's got a really stupid name 270 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:08,000 but maybe maybe that's good maybe it's like that makes that 271 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,960 makes sense for trying to because it's it's you know along 272 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,040 with all the the kind of game play stuff there's also the kind 273 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,400 of the subtext of the game which is that you're in the future 274 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,700 world a weird future where. The mega rich have escaped to 275 00:16:24,700 --> 00:16:28,660 Mars and they've left everyone else to rot or kind of be kind 276 00:16:28,660 --> 00:16:34,820 of basically entombed in massive underground bunkers because the 277 00:16:34,820 --> 00:16:40,180 the surface is kind of so scary. And you know, what would what 278 00:16:40,180 --> 00:16:43,020 would life be like on that on that surface and what what would 279 00:16:43,020 --> 00:16:45,260 everyone be be up to and kind of give? 280 00:16:45,420 --> 00:16:47,660 It like 30 years and you're going to know, don't worry. 281 00:16:49,580 --> 00:16:52,460 It's not really science fiction. It's just kind of. 282 00:16:52,540 --> 00:16:55,620 Extrapolating what's you know, what's next, so. 283 00:16:56,180 --> 00:16:58,500 Spaceships are like submarines. We'll definitely find out. 284 00:17:02,540 --> 00:17:11,900 So it's yeah we're heading into a quite quite dark times. 285 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:15,140 I mean we're already in dark times but this is this is you 286 00:17:15,140 --> 00:17:19,140 know it's it's it's kind of that that Rome is but I wanted to 287 00:17:19,140 --> 00:17:23,260 create a space that. Allowed for some hope like you 288 00:17:23,260 --> 00:17:26,460 know yeah things are getting bad but there's gonna be some 289 00:17:26,460 --> 00:17:28,940 there's gonna be something after and we're gonna you know people 290 00:17:28,940 --> 00:17:34,020 are going to survive and people are going to have have lives and 291 00:17:34,140 --> 00:17:38,020 and love each other and and see incredible vistas and like you 292 00:17:38,020 --> 00:17:39,500 know these these things will happen. 293 00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:43,260 So it was trying to trying to turn it from like yeah that 294 00:17:43,260 --> 00:17:46,580 possible like just descent into green dark into something 295 00:17:46,580 --> 00:17:49,180 something else but acknowledging the. 296 00:17:50,150 --> 00:17:53,590 In that kind of movement, like we're going to have to accept a 297 00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:56,470 lot of change, and a lot of change is weird, which is where 298 00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:59,590 the weird comes from. So it's like, you know, things, 299 00:17:59,590 --> 00:18:03,590 things mutate and we're going to have to accept that things 300 00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:05,030 aren't going to be exactly the same. 301 00:18:05,230 --> 00:18:09,270 So yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's where that came from. 302 00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:11,750 And. I like that a lot. 303 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:15,470 Very hopeful, very positive. Fantastic. 304 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:19,700 Yeah, it's kind of. I guess it's bringing together a 305 00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:23,420 lot of our different influences like for for both of us. 306 00:18:23,420 --> 00:18:30,540 We grew up on the this comic called 2008 D It's like I don't 307 00:18:30,540 --> 00:18:32,940 know how, whether you have it much in America. 308 00:18:32,940 --> 00:18:34,780 Judge Dredd. You know Judge Dredd? 309 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:37,300 Yeah. Yeah. 310 00:18:37,820 --> 00:18:40,340 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. He comes from a comic called 311 00:18:40,340 --> 00:18:45,100 2008 D, which was like this crazy response to Thatcher's 312 00:18:45,100 --> 00:18:47,390 Britain. Judge Redd was a bad guy. 313 00:18:47,470 --> 00:18:52,030 He's like the fascist and it was like that that that's where it 314 00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:54,550 was coming from. And they made this, this comic 315 00:18:54,550 --> 00:19:01,470 full of like incredible, incredible, like satirical, Hard 316 00:19:01,470 --> 00:19:05,230 as Nails characters and sold it to 10 year olds. 317 00:19:09,030 --> 00:19:11,510 Your money is just as green as anybody else's, you know. 318 00:19:14,890 --> 00:19:17,210 So, so yeah. So it's like it's that kind of 319 00:19:17,210 --> 00:19:19,250 thing. And then then but then also kind 320 00:19:19,250 --> 00:19:22,570 of thinking about like Miyazaki and and all these other 321 00:19:22,570 --> 00:19:27,610 influences coming in and writers like us, Liguin or Octavia 322 00:19:27,610 --> 00:19:30,210 Butler. So yeah, kind of bringing in all 323 00:19:30,210 --> 00:19:33,810 these different things into into one big pot and stirring it 324 00:19:33,810 --> 00:19:36,090 around. Yeah, that's literally. 325 00:19:36,690 --> 00:19:39,010 Literally, Yeah. I think I did do some drawings 326 00:19:39,010 --> 00:19:41,050 from the very first. It's race. 327 00:19:42,010 --> 00:19:43,850 You did. You did some crazy punks. 328 00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:47,370 Yeah, they were like really, really cartoony, weren't they? 329 00:19:47,650 --> 00:19:48,850 I I do. You know what? 330 00:19:48,850 --> 00:19:51,690 What really got me into it, though I don't actually know how 331 00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:53,250 we've ended up with a Kickstarter. 332 00:19:53,250 --> 00:20:00,570 It's all a bit of a weird blur. But I I I was really, really ill 333 00:20:00,570 --> 00:20:04,530 and as I was trying to get better, I I picked up, you know, 334 00:20:04,530 --> 00:20:07,290 the the beta version of ecomophage and I just started 335 00:20:07,290 --> 00:20:09,090 making these couple of pamphlets. 336 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,360 Which I put out on itch and that that was for me that that was 337 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:15,920 like the beginning where I was like I'm not just drawing crazy 338 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,640 punks. I could actually Draw Something 339 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,720 cool for this is David's done nothing really cool here and I 340 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,760 really want to engage with it and and that's what. 341 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,600 I remember, I do remember that that message on Discord, it was 342 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,520 like, maybe this is actually really good. 343 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,720 It was that thing. It was good. 344 00:20:38,290 --> 00:20:41,650 Hey, yeah, yeah, Yeah. Like guys, go on. 345 00:20:42,650 --> 00:20:45,770 But there was that thing where, where, you know, you know, like 346 00:20:45,810 --> 00:20:49,010 we're friends, like like he's see, I've shown him the thing. 347 00:20:49,010 --> 00:20:51,570 But this is the moment when I knew that Dan had actually read 348 00:20:51,570 --> 00:20:53,090 it. And it was like kind of ah, 349 00:20:53,130 --> 00:20:56,490 yeah, yeah, like you take it in and it's like. 350 00:20:57,050 --> 00:21:00,530 Yeah, it's like weird, isn't it? It's weird when like cultural 351 00:21:00,530 --> 00:21:02,410 artifacts, like books, movies, whatever. 352 00:21:02,410 --> 00:21:04,810 Sometimes you can. You can, sort of. 353 00:21:05,620 --> 00:21:08,740 Be with them and you recognize them as decent and good and 354 00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:11,220 stuff but they don't really spark alive. 355 00:21:11,460 --> 00:21:14,220 And then there is a moment where where where something will just 356 00:21:14,220 --> 00:21:18,300 like come alive in your head. And this moment when I was like 357 00:21:18,300 --> 00:21:22,460 in my sick bed playing the game on my own and just like reading 358 00:21:22,460 --> 00:21:25,500 it and rereading it and then rereading it again and I was 359 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:28,060 like actually I really want to do something with this. 360 00:21:28,140 --> 00:21:32,020 This is really really cool. And I the world just felt really 361 00:21:32,020 --> 00:21:34,340 real and really 3 dimensional and. 362 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,040 You know that whole thing of it. I'm I'm a big law person. 363 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,840 I know law isn't very isn't very like trendy or popular. 364 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,400 Actually I like a lot of law. I like the fluff. 365 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,960 Come on. It's like the good stuff 366 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:50,280 especially if it's crazy and really badly written then I can 367 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:55,280 get. But yeah no that that was when I 368 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,240 started realizing that these tables David put together and 369 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,560 I've seen them sort of remember on on our chats. 370 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,240 I've seen them sort of become more and more refined and and. 371 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:06,870 I've seen various different edits and stuff like that. 372 00:22:07,470 --> 00:22:09,870 I was like, yeah, he's done something really good here. 373 00:22:09,870 --> 00:22:14,630 This is brilliant and I need to get on board and I just got a 374 00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:17,350 friendship and like, you don't have a choice. 375 00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:24,230 So you said. This kind of you said this kind 376 00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:27,350 of came about to a Kickstarter, and I really wanted to talk 377 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:29,230 about the Kickstarter first of all. 378 00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:32,790 I mean the the art Daniel is absolutely fantastic. 379 00:22:32,790 --> 00:22:36,860 I mean. The I don't know if you know 380 00:22:36,860 --> 00:22:39,780 that we like pink here on the show, but it is kind of like our 381 00:22:39,780 --> 00:22:43,180 primary color. So that's really, yeah, that's 382 00:22:43,180 --> 00:22:46,780 really throughout the entire kind of color scheme a lot. 383 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:51,390 But the Kickstarter. Talk about the Kickstarter. 384 00:22:51,390 --> 00:22:54,710 You guys are already funded. I mean it's there was A at least 385 00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:58,470 in U.S. dollars because I know you guys use pounds. 386 00:22:58,470 --> 00:23:03,630 Still, it was like a $2500 goal and you guys are at like 387 00:23:03,630 --> 00:23:07,750 $15,000. I mean, you guys blew past your 388 00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:09,230 goal. Almost 300 backers. 389 00:23:09,230 --> 00:23:13,270 You still have 20 days to go. But as I said, talk about the 390 00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:15,390 Kickstarter. If people are going to back 391 00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:18,030 Ecomofos, what actually are they going to get from you? 392 00:23:18,910 --> 00:23:20,710 When they actually get the game in hand so they can play it. 393 00:23:22,910 --> 00:23:28,590 Yeah, it's sure. So our main focus is what we 394 00:23:28,590 --> 00:23:36,670 call the art book, which is the kind of hardback 150 odd page 395 00:23:36,670 --> 00:23:40,430 book. Which is yeah, full of Dan's 396 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:42,230 art. Like literally it will be full 397 00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:46,550 of art and then the whole whole document is going to be 398 00:23:46,550 --> 00:23:53,150 redesigned into using Clayton Notes Theme's adventures 399 00:23:53,150 --> 00:23:54,710 template. I don't know if you've you've 400 00:23:54,830 --> 00:23:59,750 had a look at that but it's it's really amazing kind of template 401 00:23:59,750 --> 00:24:04,400 for creating. Amazing games basically because 402 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,360 it has has this this really nice use of the sidebar. 403 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:12,720 So you kind of have this mixture between the actual text which is 404 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,280 kind of really clearly laid out. But then the sidebar which kind 405 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,000 of allows you to have either meta text or or little bits of 406 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,000 lore or kind of just give give a bit more flavor a bit more 407 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,200 clarity to what what you're what you're writing. 408 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,080 So the the. Document as it is right now in 409 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,640 the on on the Itch page is is like it's really super 410 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,960 compressed. Like it's like every page is 411 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,920 like high density, which is kind of cool, but it's it also makes 412 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,920 it a little bit hard to pass I think. 413 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,240 So it's it's going to have a little bit more space it's going 414 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,960 to be nicely laid out and then yeah be kind of covered in Dan's 415 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,320 doodles. And the art is like the goal for 416 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,440 the art is, I've been looking at a lot of this. 417 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,200 A manga car called Masumoto, who did this amazing graphic novel 418 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,800 called Tekonkin St. and all sorts of other stuff. 419 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,680 But one of the things I really love about him is that he draws 420 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,320 a lot of influence from like French artists and mashes it up 421 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,080 with like his Japanese heritage. And what comes out is this like 422 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,400 really graphomanic drawings. They're just full of ideas, like 423 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,360 visual ideas. There's very few words in his 424 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,350 comics and. And it's all there in the 425 00:25:26,350 --> 00:25:30,630 imagery and I was like, God, this is great for like TTRPG's 426 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:36,630 because the images stop being if we get this part this route. 427 00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:39,430 The images stop being like illustrations and they start 428 00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:42,910 being like another resource like a place where you can put like 429 00:25:43,150 --> 00:25:47,590 further ideas and suggestions for adventures or or just like 430 00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:50,550 world beer building. Like alongside all the stuff 431 00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:52,350 that they've and I've been sharing I've been looking at 432 00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:56,530 loads of photographs from the. Spanish Civil War and that's why 433 00:25:56,530 --> 00:25:58,970 all these characters have all these like little pouches all 434 00:25:58,970 --> 00:26:00,890 over them because there's this wild. 435 00:26:01,130 --> 00:26:03,530 It's like if you should have a look at these these incredible 436 00:26:03,530 --> 00:26:06,970 photographs of these like communists from, you know, 437 00:26:06,970 --> 00:26:09,810 Barcelona, they're they're they're dressed in like boiler 438 00:26:09,810 --> 00:26:13,810 suits and a whole like mishmash of different gear. 439 00:26:13,970 --> 00:26:17,210 And it's just, I mean it's terrible thing to say about war, 440 00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:21,570 which is not a resource for like an artist, but it's like a. 441 00:26:22,110 --> 00:26:25,910 It's like it's just full of like flavor and character. 442 00:26:25,910 --> 00:26:29,630 And you know, you can just dive into these images and just stand 443 00:26:29,630 --> 00:26:35,910 alongside those those militia men and women and and just be, 444 00:26:36,030 --> 00:26:38,910 you know, they're not faceless. They're not, they're they're not 445 00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:44,030 anonymous is what I'm saying. And I want the images, well, I'm 446 00:26:44,030 --> 00:26:47,390 making the images to be like that so that each image is 447 00:26:47,390 --> 00:26:50,900 containing this like. This world of, you know, a life 448 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:54,580 or a moment, and it's got depth and it will have all of that 449 00:26:54,580 --> 00:26:57,660 stuff going in there. But that was really rambling, 450 00:26:57,660 --> 00:26:58,740 wasn't that? No. 451 00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:00,740 That's fantastic. That's fantastic. 452 00:27:00,740 --> 00:27:03,740 Awesome to hear where all of this comes from, cuz like I 453 00:27:03,740 --> 00:27:06,540 said, the art is absolutely stunning and to know where the 454 00:27:06,540 --> 00:27:11,060 inspiration comes from that is really, really fantastic. 455 00:27:11,060 --> 00:27:14,900 So the it's funny because when we were talking before, David 456 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:18,660 and I talked about a little bit of this in Twitter if I didn't 457 00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:19,980 know. You guys were on Discord as much 458 00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:24,100 we were in there and they were doing a lot easier, but you they 459 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:25,740 kept saying the art book and I was like, but what about the 460 00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:28,780 regular book in my head? And it's just like, no, it's the 461 00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:32,140 regular book full of more art. And that is why it is the art 462 00:27:32,140 --> 00:27:35,020 book. So that is the the the standard 463 00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:38,940 primary thing is the the art book. 464 00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:43,740 But what else can people get from from all of this, 465 00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:47,520 especially the. The Deluxe Art book bundle backs 466 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,360 with that one backer. I wonder who that is. 467 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,480 I'm back at the owner. It's a mystery that's fucking 468 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,720 yeah. Like, yeah. 469 00:27:56,120 --> 00:28:00,160 It's just OK so so as well as the the art book we have the 470 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:06,080 spiral bound kind of yeah kind of basically less art version 471 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:09,560 but it's it's spiral bound so it'll it'll lie flat on the 472 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,520 table. It's kind of more possible in a 473 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,620 way it's it's more just. Yeah, straight for play. 474 00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:18,460 It's got it means all these lovely tables will be just like, 475 00:28:18,540 --> 00:28:23,020 you know flat on the table and you'll be able to use them and 476 00:28:23,020 --> 00:28:27,060 then yeah, the the kind of then we have like this. 477 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,240 Incredible, but it's become absolutely incredible because 478 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,840 all the the the all the stretch goals bundle of adventures, 479 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,640 they're they're they're going to be pamphlet adventures plus the 480 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,800 adventure that we're going to be playing today which is a hole in 481 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:47,440 the ground, which is an A6 kind of 16 page adventure plus a 482 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,440 couple of pamphlets that that Dan's done about cool little 483 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,400 settings. But then. 484 00:28:53,080 --> 00:29:00,160 These Adventures by Sam Lee, Goblin mixtape Logan Dean did 485 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,880 the Company and Demon Facts in Cleveland. 486 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,400 Iko did the Everything. Yeah. 487 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,840 Everything. It's all sky, yeah. 488 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,280 Last bake, last bake, yeah. Yeah, and then? 489 00:29:17,270 --> 00:29:19,870 Exactly. And some guy called Zed Xu is is 490 00:29:19,870 --> 00:29:23,830 producing the next one which is like literally getting in 491 00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:28,070 contact with Zed X was just like wow, like you agreed to be part 492 00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:30,230 of this thing and that just blew my mind. 493 00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:32,590 It was it was an excuse to talk to him really. 494 00:29:32,910 --> 00:29:36,710 And and now he's going to be he's going to be making making a 495 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:38,950 pamphlet Adventure for us about a kind of. 496 00:29:40,190 --> 00:29:43,310 A an old mech, basically. It's like a yeah, what do we do 497 00:29:43,310 --> 00:29:45,470 with nuclear warheads? It's pretty much his, his 498 00:29:45,470 --> 00:29:47,390 adventure. That's the only one that's not 499 00:29:47,390 --> 00:29:50,750 funded yet. So we're we're looking to to get 500 00:29:50,750 --> 00:29:52,790 get up to. It's only another. 501 00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:56,430 We're getting there, we're getting there. 502 00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:58,670 Yeah, because I was looking at it in Merck. 503 00:29:58,670 --> 00:30:01,630 And so for me, the numbers will look different. 504 00:30:01,630 --> 00:30:03,470 Yeah. So you guys are, it looks like 505 00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:06,390 you're sitting at just over 12 K. 506 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,880 And Zedek is about 13 1/2, so I mean I think with 20 days left. 507 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,920 20 days left it's like. 20 days left If you're going to some of 508 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,120 you guys out there listen I want to bump up to that you know that 509 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,920 that deluxe art book pack you'll get we'll get some zedek too. 510 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,880 I I just got my reach of the road guide Roach guide and it's 511 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,520 just out of hand right bring that up. 512 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,280 But it's interesting that when I. 513 00:30:32,210 --> 00:30:34,810 I think your project and I think that is that Xue and that's the 514 00:30:34,810 --> 00:30:35,930 first thing that pops in my mind. 515 00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:39,050 It just kind of makes sense to have on this project. 516 00:30:39,050 --> 00:30:41,850 That's great. Yeah, no, I mean, I've. 517 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:44,690 I've loved that. It's worked for years. 518 00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:46,770 It was, it was. I mean, seeing 1000 Thousand 519 00:30:46,770 --> 00:30:49,850 Islands was one of the things that just basically blew my head 520 00:30:49,850 --> 00:30:52,890 off. It was just like what you can do 521 00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:56,770 with such sparse pros and just create like whole worlds and 522 00:30:56,770 --> 00:31:00,110 such. Though few words often and that, 523 00:31:00,110 --> 00:31:04,630 yeah it's just it's incredible like just pure flavor And yeah 524 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:07,870 I'd say that's it's like one of the biggest influences besides 525 00:31:07,870 --> 00:31:11,910 like the kind of more mechanical influences on on on my writing 526 00:31:11,910 --> 00:31:16,540 and on on this work. Yeah, so, so we've got all these 527 00:31:16,540 --> 00:31:20,020 different bundles that that that handle these things together. 528 00:31:20,020 --> 00:31:23,140 So you can get the spiral and the art book and this bundle all 529 00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:29,780 together for in the nice bundle because it's nice, it's £69 and 530 00:31:29,780 --> 00:31:33,380 then and then. Yeah. 531 00:31:33,540 --> 00:31:37,980 And then we we we decided yeah to to make an absolute like just 532 00:31:37,980 --> 00:31:42,900 the most gorgeous Riso print possible like 4 different layers 533 00:31:43,620 --> 00:31:47,740 of the the classic punk with his, with his back to you. 534 00:31:47,740 --> 00:31:51,140 And it's kind of it's it's the patch that's weird hope and it's 535 00:31:51,140 --> 00:31:53,380 like it's like one of it's going to be one of the main covers 536 00:31:53,380 --> 00:31:55,860 from the game and that's going to be this Riso print. 537 00:31:56,140 --> 00:31:58,860 It's going to be really limited edition and. 538 00:32:00,090 --> 00:32:03,730 It's it's gonna be gorgeous. We're gonna be working with a a 539 00:32:03,730 --> 00:32:06,930 printer here in in Brighton to make sure that it's absolutely 540 00:32:06,930 --> 00:32:08,210 perfect. Yeah. 541 00:32:08,210 --> 00:32:10,210 Doppel Press. They're they're so good. 542 00:32:10,610 --> 00:32:12,090 Like, I've worked with them before. 543 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:15,210 And it's gonna be amazing. I love that content like. 544 00:32:15,530 --> 00:32:18,210 It's so cool looking, such a great character. 545 00:32:19,850 --> 00:32:22,450 All the. Well David was saying all the 546 00:32:22,450 --> 00:32:23,810 artwork. The reason it's got this funny 547 00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:27,570 like texture and looks a little bit dated in that way is because 548 00:32:27,570 --> 00:32:31,210 that I I make all the artwork like on pen and paper then scan 549 00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:34,850 it in digitally color it and then I do this process called 550 00:32:34,890 --> 00:32:39,210 full color separations where I where I reduce all of the 551 00:32:39,210 --> 00:32:44,330 colorways down to their constituent ratios of cyan, 552 00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:48,460 yellow, magenta and black. That. 553 00:32:48,780 --> 00:32:52,900 Was that? And then then you recombine them 554 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:55,620 like a screen print and you get a full color image. 555 00:32:55,780 --> 00:32:58,220 That's one of the reasons that everything's got this like 556 00:32:58,220 --> 00:33:01,500 slightly warm pink tint tint to it. 557 00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:05,020 I like the original artwork before they get separated. 558 00:33:05,260 --> 00:33:09,740 They don't necessarily have that that that pink well, though, I 559 00:33:09,740 --> 00:33:12,220 was looking at my Instagram the other day and I was like, shit, 560 00:33:12,220 --> 00:33:16,850 I really like purple and red. Yeah. 561 00:33:17,730 --> 00:33:19,610 Well, that's fantastic. Was that now, did that come 562 00:33:19,610 --> 00:33:23,050 about because of of print or was that just always just like the 563 00:33:23,050 --> 00:33:23,810 color? There's. 564 00:33:23,890 --> 00:33:25,570 A story there, there's a story there. 565 00:33:25,570 --> 00:33:29,490 So basically I was making like the artwork, like my drawings. 566 00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:32,610 And David said there's something like I just, there's something 567 00:33:32,610 --> 00:33:35,730 missing like can we make the art like flatter or something? 568 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,960 And we were just like chatting about it. 569 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,400 And that's where 2000 AD came in, comes in. 2000 AD was like 570 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,240 primarily black and white, the inside, but the outside was full 571 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,960 of these like insane, psychedelically brightly colored 572 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,200 covers. And they all were made using 573 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,200 this process. It's like the it's like the way 574 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,520 that printed material is still printed, but but was we were 575 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,280 surrounded by it And you know back then in the 80s and and 576 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,180 90s, it was pretty pretty. On pretty like crude paper and 577 00:34:07,540 --> 00:34:10,460 and it's pretty raw process, you know. 578 00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:14,460 And so I was like struggling to work out what David was meaning 579 00:34:14,460 --> 00:34:16,699 by asking for the colors to be flat. 580 00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:18,020 I was like flat what do you mean? 581 00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:21,540 And with them, with them then we were talking about 2000 AD. 582 00:34:21,540 --> 00:34:24,580 So I was like, all right these are, these are, these are four 583 00:34:24,580 --> 00:34:26,940 color separations. I'll just try that. 584 00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:28,699 You know you can do it with Photoshop. 585 00:34:29,610 --> 00:34:32,010 I I did a bunch of them. And I I sent this Flamer 586 00:34:32,010 --> 00:34:34,810 character to David and he was like, nailed it. 587 00:34:35,250 --> 00:34:37,610 And I was like, yes, I have motherfucker. 588 00:34:37,929 --> 00:34:40,130 I've nailed it. I just knew it was right. 589 00:34:40,449 --> 00:34:42,250 And I was like, that's how it's going to be. 590 00:34:43,010 --> 00:34:44,810 And so there you go, there's the story. 591 00:34:45,850 --> 00:34:48,010 No, it's there. It's the art is absolutely 592 00:34:48,010 --> 00:34:49,290 stunning. And I know I. 593 00:34:50,130 --> 00:34:52,850 So how did we get to 3 covers? Was it just like, wow, that 594 00:34:52,850 --> 00:34:54,690 one's really good. Wow, I have another one that's 595 00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:56,210 really good. I have another one that's really 596 00:34:56,210 --> 00:34:57,810 good. I guess we're doing all three, 597 00:34:58,010 --> 00:35:01,930 like. Pretty much that's just a 598 00:35:01,930 --> 00:35:03,530 drawing machine. What can I say? 599 00:35:03,810 --> 00:35:06,570 It was actually Discord, and it was Echo, I think. 600 00:35:06,610 --> 00:35:10,690 I like I did the bug cover with the with the punks that are like 601 00:35:10,810 --> 00:35:15,490 falling and tumbling. That was the cover I made, like 602 00:35:15,490 --> 00:35:18,290 the punk with the Weird Hope background. 603 00:35:18,610 --> 00:35:20,730 And then I made like the Snarling girl. 604 00:35:20,930 --> 00:35:23,650 And I think David showed a couple of people on Discord. 605 00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:25,930 Echo was one of them, or Iko was one of them. 606 00:35:26,610 --> 00:35:28,210 And then I got this message from David. 607 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,760 Later that day saying, yeah, it looks like we're doing all 608 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:37,400 three, so yeah, yeah. Probably probably foolish in 609 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,640 terms of like printing resources and stuff, but like, I think, I 610 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,880 think, I think it's a fun thing like. 611 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,720 Hey, listen, at least one person wants all three covers. 612 00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:56,310 Yeah, that's the, that's the other great thing about that 613 00:35:56,310 --> 00:36:01,030 particular bundle is you get all three covers, that's. 614 00:36:01,070 --> 00:36:04,150 Probably why that person backed it because they have a problem 615 00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:08,510 and they can't not buy every variant of a thing then when it 616 00:36:08,510 --> 00:36:11,230 comes out because they don't have a problem at all. 617 00:36:12,990 --> 00:36:18,350 So, so yeah, gosh, I'm trying to. 618 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,640 Think of what else we got on the Kickstarter. 619 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,080 I mean everyone, I mean back all of it obviously. 620 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,960 And you just recently. I think the last thing is you 621 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,080 are deciding to put out loan eons in print for the first 622 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,960 time, right? That's right. 623 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,390 Yeah, we. Basically got some you know how 624 00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:41,310 these things go like you start getting questions from backers 625 00:36:41,310 --> 00:36:45,230 it's like is there any way that we could add on Los Neons onto 626 00:36:45,230 --> 00:36:48,790 this and like and then someone else was like you know I've been 627 00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:51,270 looking for low neons. Does that exist anywhere And 628 00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:54,870 it's like well actually why don't we just get it done now 629 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:58,950 we've got a bit of we've got some funding to get the more 630 00:36:58,950 --> 00:37:02,080 stuff printed so. Like, let's just let's just get 631 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,480 that out into the world too. So yeah, you can you can add on 632 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:11,400 the The Lost Eon's 3 books, You can add on Dan's book The Helms 633 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,280 of the Multiverse, which is really cool. 634 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:18,040 And then you can add on Babel, which is, yeah, my registered 635 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:23,360 and alone hack where you're inside the the, the. 636 00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:28,710 Kind of Crumbling Tower of Babel and Yeah and Low Neons, which is 637 00:37:28,710 --> 00:37:34,910 the solo version of Lost Eons. Yeah, kind of kind of classic 638 00:37:34,910 --> 00:37:42,670 card based solo RPG kind of mixing together bits of I guess 639 00:37:42,670 --> 00:37:45,830 kind of like a free form wretched and alone hack 640 00:37:45,830 --> 00:37:51,630 basically but with with kind of more, yeah, far more journaling 641 00:37:51,630 --> 00:37:53,670 like you're you're exploring this space. 642 00:37:54,030 --> 00:37:55,870 And discovering it for the first time. 643 00:37:57,110 --> 00:38:01,870 That's the first time. That's the first time that's 644 00:38:01,870 --> 00:38:04,070 gonna be in print, isn't that? Oh yeah, yeah. 645 00:38:04,070 --> 00:38:05,550 No, it's never been printed before. 646 00:38:05,550 --> 00:38:08,230 It's one of those games I wanted to print it. 647 00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:10,510 And I've always kind of been thinking, yeah, I'll do it next 648 00:38:10,510 --> 00:38:13,950 month or I'll do it like, and it's always just been put back 649 00:38:13,950 --> 00:38:17,150 and back and it's just like, let's just just do it. 650 00:38:17,150 --> 00:38:19,070 Just so stupid not to have printed it. 651 00:38:19,070 --> 00:38:22,470 So yeah, it's going on. Hey, listen, I mean. 652 00:38:23,740 --> 00:38:30,060 I might have added that on too. So the the tier I, I mean if you 653 00:38:30,060 --> 00:38:33,100 guys keep keep adding more in, I'm going to keep getting it but 654 00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:35,740 don't because it's already kind of expensive. 655 00:38:37,340 --> 00:38:40,260 But yeah, so listen the the the other thing we wanted to do 656 00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:43,940 today, not only are we talking about eco, OK, last question, 657 00:38:44,020 --> 00:38:48,220 why eco mofos ECO but like where like. 658 00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:52,310 It, like I said, it came from a shit post. 659 00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:56,150 It started out solar bastards. Yeah, exactly. 660 00:38:56,150 --> 00:39:00,310 It was solar bastards. And it was so it was me. 661 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,760 Yeah, literally that hack of Mika Anderson's Bastards along 662 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,880 with like the Lost ion setting kind of, but kind of more 663 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,520 recent. So Lost Ions is based 8000 years 664 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,560 in the future. This is based like kind of 200 665 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,880 years in the future. And yeah, Solar, because it was 666 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,320 like kind of I was thinking about solar punk and things like 667 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,290 this and then. I realized, well, if I put it 668 00:39:26,290 --> 00:39:29,490 out as solar bastards, people are gonna think it's a bastard 669 00:39:29,490 --> 00:39:30,650 hack. And really it's not. 670 00:39:30,650 --> 00:39:34,170 That's kind of misconstruing it. It's like it's really quite a 671 00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:38,570 it's much closer to into the odd and much closer to Ken. 672 00:39:38,570 --> 00:39:44,810 So I've gotta change the name And it became like, yeah, eco. 673 00:39:45,260 --> 00:39:49,980 Yeah, it was eco motherfuckers. And then the game and then I 674 00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:52,460 really liked what happened, like eco mofo. 675 00:39:52,460 --> 00:39:56,780 It kind of like that repeating of the O and this kind of really 676 00:39:56,780 --> 00:40:00,220 it kind of and it it kind of seemed like, especially with the 677 00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:03,420 exclamation marks it seemed really stupid and I thought yeah 678 00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:05,460 that's perfect. Like it's just really dumb. 679 00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:09,700 These are going to do really dumb things in this game and 680 00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:12,900 it's kind of about just just going with your gut and. 681 00:40:13,410 --> 00:40:16,930 Getting on with things you know and that that it it felt, it 682 00:40:16,930 --> 00:40:19,330 felt right. Yeah, I listen. 683 00:40:19,330 --> 00:40:20,690 I dig it. I'm a big fan. 684 00:40:20,690 --> 00:40:22,730 I do think it flows really, really well. 685 00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:24,890 I think it flows better than eco motherfuckers. 686 00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:28,810 So you can as it is and I'm really excited to get it and 687 00:40:28,850 --> 00:40:30,810 also really excited to play because that's the other thing 688 00:40:30,810 --> 00:40:34,690 that we are doing today. We are going to step away for a 689 00:40:34,690 --> 00:40:36,130 couple minutes just to get that set up. 690 00:40:36,130 --> 00:40:39,410 But if you're here watching, you definitely want to stick around 691 00:40:39,410 --> 00:40:42,010 because we are going to be playing A1 shot David, running 692 00:40:42,010 --> 00:40:45,850 myself, Daniel and Hunter. Through an adventure for Eco 693 00:40:45,850 --> 00:40:48,370 Mofos. So stick around for just a 694 00:40:48,370 --> 00:40:50,050 couple of minutes and we'll be right back. 695 00:40:50,050 --> 00:40:54,570 For that. Hello and welcome back to the 696 00:40:54,570 --> 00:40:58,250 Weekly Scroll podcast where we are here with David Blandy and 697 00:40:58,250 --> 00:41:06,940 Daniel Locke and Hunter to play. Eco Mofos, the project that is 698 00:41:06,940 --> 00:41:10,620 currently very successfully funding on Kickstarter, so we're 699 00:41:10,620 --> 00:41:14,540 actually going to go through an adventure run by David for us 700 00:41:14,540 --> 00:41:18,020 and give you guys kind of a preview of what you can expect 701 00:41:18,020 --> 00:41:19,980 when you back and play Eco Mofos. 702 00:41:19,980 --> 00:41:21,740 So David, what do we got going on? 703 00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:24,340 Yeah. So, yeah, I'm. 704 00:41:25,210 --> 00:41:29,890 David Blandy I'm the designer of the game and we're gonna roll up 705 00:41:29,890 --> 00:41:32,930 some characters and then we're gonna go through an adventure 706 00:41:32,930 --> 00:41:38,530 called A Hole in the Ground, which is a adventure I made for 707 00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:41,890 Little jam that I did for the Eco Mofos. 708 00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:47,530 It's kind of loosely based on A Tower Darkly by John Davis and 709 00:41:49,370 --> 00:41:52,690 adapted for the Eco mofos setting. 710 00:41:52,690 --> 00:41:57,240 So we have. Yeah, first character creation. 711 00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,680 So Dan, I think you've got a character, haven't you? 712 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,920 Yeah, I have. I wrote one earlier on. 713 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,760 I'm happy to roll another one, but I actually did like a 714 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,280 drawing of her as well. She's there. 715 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,080 He's cute. Oh yeah. 716 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,840 Wow. Oh, I love the cuts out. 717 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,520 That's amazing. Yeah, that's. 718 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,800 Cool. That's great. 719 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:23,800 I'm just gonna like be like a yeah, and she's like a hacker. 720 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,160 And she's also got a burden. And I did the whole life path 721 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,080 thing, you know, and the whole thing was produced using the 722 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,840 tables. Normally with stuff I just like 723 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,400 make it up and then just make it fit the game. 724 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,080 But this time I was like, I'm going to really engage with all 725 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,960 the cool tables and then processes that David's put in 726 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,960 place. I mean, it's produced this 727 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,520 really, really interesting character. 728 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,920 You know, she's got this, she's got this burden, which is 729 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,240 sadness. It's got deep secret. 730 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,720 And yeah, she's pretty kick ass. She's got a blaster and a 731 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,480 scalpel and night vision goggles. 732 00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:00,200 I always wanted a pair of night vision goggles when I was 12, 733 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,160 and I still do. I still want one right now. 734 00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:07,880 But you still do now, yeah? What? 735 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,400 What? What's her name again? 736 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,560 River. Actually, her name is hilarious 737 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,600 because I use. Hilarious. 738 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,600 The name is generally no, no, no. 739 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,380 So her name is River Minx. But she doesn't like to use the 740 00:43:21,380 --> 00:43:24,540 surname because she doesn't like She doesn't want to sound like 741 00:43:24,540 --> 00:43:27,420 she's featured in some sort of aquatic pornography. 742 00:43:28,380 --> 00:43:33,420 There you go. It's something against aquatic 743 00:43:33,580 --> 00:43:39,820 pornography, but yeah. Yeah, so I got River for you. 744 00:43:39,820 --> 00:43:42,740 All right, So character creation, what are we doing? 745 00:43:44,020 --> 00:43:46,860 Yeah, so first of all, I'm going to talk you through it. 746 00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:51,700 So this is the the character creation that is in the edited 747 00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:54,380 book, not the version that's on the PDF. 748 00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:57,900 So it's slightly adapted. And the first thing you've got 749 00:43:57,900 --> 00:44:01,060 to remember is to keep track of your ones, because every one 750 00:44:01,060 --> 00:44:04,820 that you roll, we're going to add an extra item from the D66 751 00:44:04,820 --> 00:44:11,920 table of loot. So first of all, you roll a D6 752 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,120 for your starting hurt protection, so that's your HP. 753 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,520 And in this game, HP is not just, it's not like HP and 754 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,520 Dungeons and Dragons, it's more of a measure of how able you are 755 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,040 to avoid getting hurt, basically. 756 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,920 So until your HP is gone, you're kind of untouched as soon as you 757 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,320 get to a safe space or your HP comes back. 758 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,930 But once it's gone. Then your strength starts 759 00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:41,810 depleting, and that's when you're getting your wounds, 760 00:44:41,810 --> 00:44:43,850 basically. And once your strength gets to 761 00:44:43,850 --> 00:44:47,730 zero, you're dead. So, but quite often you'll be 762 00:44:47,730 --> 00:44:50,290 incapacitated before that point, because each time that that 763 00:44:50,290 --> 00:44:52,810 strength gets hurt, you're going to roll a save. 764 00:44:52,930 --> 00:44:56,210 And if you fail that save, then you're kind of you're down, 765 00:44:56,210 --> 00:44:59,490 you're not dead, you're down. And you have to rely on your 766 00:44:59,490 --> 00:45:01,650 compatriots to help you out of that mess. 767 00:45:02,090 --> 00:45:05,490 So yeah, if you both want to roll your D6, your hurt 768 00:45:05,490 --> 00:45:10,370 protection, then we get started. Done. 769 00:45:10,410 --> 00:45:15,330 I got a four. 4:00 nice. I got a three. 770 00:45:16,250 --> 00:45:18,450 OK, so we've got a four and a three. 771 00:45:20,330 --> 00:45:22,970 Now this. Now you're going to roll another 772 00:45:22,970 --> 00:45:27,970 D6 for your adaptation. So the four means you're a rogue 773 00:45:27,970 --> 00:45:32,570 type. Let's see what what exact 774 00:45:32,570 --> 00:45:35,210 adaptation it is after that. So. 775 00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,120 I rolled another 4. Another four. 776 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,200 So you're a drifter and a drifter. 777 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:51,720 D4 drifter is OK. So whenever you go foraging, you 778 00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:57,040 roll for two items rather than one, and you always have 779 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,800 advantage on combat initiatives. So you always go kind of pretty 780 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,720 much go first. You start with a six shooter. 781 00:46:04,610 --> 00:46:11,490 Antique A locator device, a padded trench coat, a wide 782 00:46:11,490 --> 00:46:14,290 brimmed hat, dusty clothes and a flag. 783 00:46:14,330 --> 00:46:18,810 And of moonshine. Just like real life I am in 784 00:46:18,810 --> 00:46:25,090 Texas. So, and and how about you, Ryan? 785 00:46:26,010 --> 00:46:30,370 I ruled A5. A5A5 and a three that you're a 786 00:46:30,370 --> 00:46:33,610 shape changer and you're a fungalist. 787 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,240 So let's let's have a look what the fungalist does. 788 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,400 Fungalist can turn into a being of fungus, able to shear scale, 789 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,880 shear as fast as they can run. So you can kind of go straight 790 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,760 up risk a burden to return to your usual form. 791 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,040 So yeah, you can kind of stay as a fungus being for a while, but 792 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,800 if you want to turn back to kind of. 793 00:47:00,860 --> 00:47:04,060 A general humanoid. Then you have to risk a burden, 794 00:47:04,060 --> 00:47:08,580 which means, yeah, rolling against your your will and 795 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:12,740 seeing if you can pass you. Your starting items are a staff 796 00:47:12,740 --> 00:47:16,820 with a fungal core, a vial of slime, a padded cloak, a 797 00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:20,380 widebrimmed hat, some sunglasses and some mushrooms. 798 00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:27,700 And now we're going to roll few ribbons. 799 00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:30,760 These scores. So you've got Strength, 800 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,080 Dexterity and Willpower, and each of those you need to roll 801 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,040 3D fix for, and remember to keep track of your ones. 802 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,080 All right, so we are just oh shit. 803 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,120 I'm. No way. 804 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,280 No, I did. That's what my old shit was. 805 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,360 I was like, no way we both did it. 806 00:48:07,690 --> 00:48:14,450 No, I was lying. What did you get 18 in? 807 00:48:14,450 --> 00:48:16,930 Was that in the strength or Decks? 808 00:48:17,690 --> 00:48:18,410 Decks. Okay. 809 00:48:18,410 --> 00:48:20,210 Nice. Yeah. 810 00:48:20,290 --> 00:48:21,810 So yeah. So you've got strength, which is 811 00:48:21,810 --> 00:48:23,730 how much body you have to lose and bruise. 812 00:48:23,730 --> 00:48:27,330 You have dexterity how well you can dodge and sneak and 813 00:48:27,330 --> 00:48:30,330 willpower, How well you can focus under emotional and 814 00:48:30,330 --> 00:48:33,960 psychic distress. So that's your 3 abilities and 815 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,720 now you get your luck which is 1D6 and then we'll add 6 to it 816 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,960 Do. We keep track of these ones too. 817 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:58,000 Yep. I only rolled 11, so yeah, I 818 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,040 think I rolled the highest that I've ever rolled on a. 819 00:49:01,950 --> 00:49:05,670 Mark of the odd 3D6D20 roll under game ever. 820 00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:08,830 I rolled A16 for Will. I'm like, that's crazy. 821 00:49:08,990 --> 00:49:10,270 Nice. Amazing. 822 00:49:11,070 --> 00:49:14,630 I also rolled the highest ever. I literally rolled an 18, which 823 00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:15,790 is the highest you can possibly get. 824 00:49:15,790 --> 00:49:21,150 So I am. I did. 825 00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:24,270 I did that the other day. I just rolled dice once and got 826 00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:30,310 360 and it was just like what, but 666 big? 827 00:49:31,470 --> 00:49:34,950 Yeah, exactly. It was a sign, right? 828 00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:39,670 And now we're gonna roll for your age, so just roll the D6 on 829 00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:42,270 A1. You're kind of a teenager to 830 00:49:42,270 --> 00:49:45,310 your 20s, three, your 30s, blah, blah, blah. 831 00:49:47,550 --> 00:49:49,710 But my character is the exact same age as me. 832 00:49:51,030 --> 00:49:59,500 And now you roll for. You roll for a burden that you 833 00:49:59,540 --> 00:50:08,740 picked up along the way, so that's the D62O K You're 834 00:50:09,020 --> 00:50:12,060 enraged. You need to unleash your anger 835 00:50:12,060 --> 00:50:15,900 on the world, or refuse to engage in violence when you 836 00:50:15,900 --> 00:50:18,380 could. And if you do either of those 837 00:50:18,380 --> 00:50:22,460 things, you will be released of that burden and it will 838 00:50:22,740 --> 00:50:26,020 disappear from your inventory because you only have 10 839 00:50:26,020 --> 00:50:28,000 inventory slots. Ah. 840 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,280 So at the moment, it's taking up one of those. 841 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,560 And how about you, Ryan? I got a 5. 842 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,120 Five. You're sad, so you need to 843 00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:40,880 either share a just. Typical. 844 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,520 Either share a deep secret with someone or indulge in a shameful 845 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,520 vice. One of those will get rid of 846 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,000 your sadness. Okay. 847 00:50:54,130 --> 00:50:56,050 Yeah, that's something you can do in play. 848 00:50:56,290 --> 00:50:58,250 Like real life? Yeah. 849 00:50:59,570 --> 00:51:05,970 Oh, dear. All right. 850 00:51:05,970 --> 00:51:08,450 So how many? How many ones did you have? 851 00:51:08,450 --> 00:51:10,330 And should we roll up some extra items? 852 00:51:11,130 --> 00:51:17,810 2 ones. 2 ones. So if you wanna roll, yeah, 853 00:51:17,810 --> 00:51:24,130 let's roll your first D6 on that sheet. 1st D6 I get it for the. 854 00:51:24,250 --> 00:51:26,770 I get it 2. Two. 855 00:51:26,770 --> 00:51:31,970 So that's on the weapons table. Roll again two more. 856 00:51:32,010 --> 00:51:35,770 Two more times. A1 and A5. 857 00:51:37,130 --> 00:51:42,490 One and a five. You have a wrist crossbow, which 858 00:51:42,490 --> 00:51:48,330 does D6 damage. Yeah, no, yeah, it's just kind 859 00:51:48,330 --> 00:51:53,480 of kind of derego and Max. Of Mad Max world. 860 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,600 And if you want to roll another thing if you roll the first dice 861 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,080 again first. A6. 862 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,280 A6 Here we go. Now we're going into the cool 863 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:12,680 stuff. Roll two more 3333. 864 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,480 Okay. You've got an ingredient. 865 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,480 Interesting. What ingredient do you have? 866 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:25,750 You need to roll two more 2/3. 2-3 You've got a shiny beetle. 867 00:52:26,830 --> 00:52:29,910 Nice, So yeah. Delicious. 868 00:52:30,830 --> 00:52:34,510 Exactly. You can combine ingredients in 869 00:52:34,510 --> 00:52:36,070 this. Once you have three different 870 00:52:36,070 --> 00:52:39,510 ingredients, you can combine them and they produce. 871 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,400 Something you you roll for a kind of random effect and that 872 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,680 becomes what that particular combination does in your game. 873 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,680 So it could be the. Game. 874 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fungalist is definitely out 875 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,840 there. Just fucking harvesting all the 876 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,720 time just like you look infringing and. 877 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,160 Perfect. Absolutely. 878 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,680 I have 1/1. OK, you have one one. 879 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,160 So yeah, let's let's roll up this item. 880 00:53:05,590 --> 00:53:08,150 I got 3 for my first D6. Three. 881 00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:08,910 Okay. Three. 882 00:53:08,910 --> 00:53:11,430 So it's some stuff, Yeah. Let's see what stuff you got. 883 00:53:12,430 --> 00:53:18,750 Two more D sixes. 5 and A5. 5 and A5 you've got a grappling 884 00:53:18,750 --> 00:53:20,230 hook. Nice. 885 00:53:23,070 --> 00:53:30,670 Yeah, fantastic. Right now. 886 00:53:31,150 --> 00:53:33,550 What's your inventory size? Is it your strength? 887 00:53:33,590 --> 00:53:36,430 It's. 10 No, it's 10. It's 10 slots. 888 00:53:36,830 --> 00:53:40,550 So it may be that you have too many items, including your 889 00:53:40,550 --> 00:53:44,030 burdens, that you have to choose which which things you discard. 890 00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:47,270 Do you want? Do you want me? 891 00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:50,550 Do you want kind of suggested names, or do you want to? 892 00:53:50,550 --> 00:53:52,230 I've got some names that you can roll on. 893 00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:54,310 Or you. Can I'll take a suggested name 894 00:53:54,310 --> 00:53:57,350 for my drifter? OK. 895 00:53:58,910 --> 00:53:59,830 Yeah. OK. 896 00:53:59,830 --> 00:54:04,510 So let's just go. Right. 897 00:54:04,510 --> 00:54:07,710 Your nickname is 12. OK. 898 00:54:08,270 --> 00:54:16,310 Your nickname is Minx, And then your family is Dean Ali. 899 00:54:16,910 --> 00:54:19,390 Minx Ali is you. So. 900 00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:21,430 And do you want, do you want anything else? 901 00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:23,790 You can have a demeanor if you want. 902 00:54:25,150 --> 00:54:26,110 Yeah. Can be a demeanor. 903 00:54:27,020 --> 00:54:30,220 Oh dear, you're depressed. Oh, Minks is sad. 904 00:54:30,220 --> 00:54:31,980 Wow, we're. Really. 905 00:54:32,260 --> 00:54:35,620 We're a really sad crew, Yeah. Yeah, that's right. 906 00:54:35,620 --> 00:54:43,020 Oh, dear. Yeah, yeah, I can roll up a a or 907 00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:46,420 get a character name too. So we got River Minks and and 908 00:54:46,420 --> 00:54:51,020 me, Who is me? OK, so you are, you're honey. 909 00:54:52,620 --> 00:54:56,860 Damn right. Honey Wang. 910 00:55:00,140 --> 00:55:01,540 All right. Well, I'm definitely putting 911 00:55:01,540 --> 00:55:06,020 that whole name on there. I guess everybody, let's just do 912 00:55:06,020 --> 00:55:07,540 it. Let's Ali. 913 00:55:07,540 --> 00:55:09,100 Ali for for. For minks. 914 00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:11,460 Ali. Yeah, that's right. 915 00:55:12,220 --> 00:55:14,420 And then river, do you want me to not put minks because you 916 00:55:14,420 --> 00:55:15,300 don't like it? Maybe. 917 00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:17,700 Maybe. Maybe you don't like it. 918 00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:21,020 So River I. Have it all I have it. 919 00:55:22,140 --> 00:55:26,530 All all right. I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you a 920 00:55:26,530 --> 00:55:28,570 little, give you a little bit of that. 921 00:55:28,570 --> 00:55:29,690 You'll see what that looks like. OK. 922 00:55:29,850 --> 00:55:32,250 So I'll throw those names up as we get going. 923 00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:34,610 And that's that's all that's that's character creation. 924 00:55:35,530 --> 00:55:37,610 That is it, yeah. Your your character's ready to 925 00:55:37,610 --> 00:55:39,810 go. You've got your what was my. 926 00:55:39,850 --> 00:55:42,250 Demeanor. What was my demeanor for For 927 00:55:42,330 --> 00:55:45,370 Honey Honey Wang? Yeah. 928 00:55:45,610 --> 00:55:48,370 Honey Wang is. Let's see, we've just got rolls 929 00:55:48,370 --> 00:55:50,930 D20. Here, you got a nine. 930 00:55:51,530 --> 00:55:55,970 You are. Dry maybe have a dry sense of 931 00:55:55,970 --> 00:55:57,770 humor. Well, I mean. 932 00:55:59,610 --> 00:56:02,050 You're sad and you have a dry sense of humor, so just go ahead 933 00:56:02,050 --> 00:56:03,090 and just play yourself. I. 934 00:56:03,850 --> 00:56:06,970 Mean. That's that's what I do. 935 00:56:06,970 --> 00:56:10,050 All right, cool. OK. 936 00:56:10,050 --> 00:56:16,570 So yeah, so you 3 have been stumbling around in in in the 937 00:56:16,570 --> 00:56:20,210 mountains through the malevolent hills. 938 00:56:20,790 --> 00:56:25,830 And you found an overgrown entrance to a cave to shelter 939 00:56:25,830 --> 00:56:35,870 for the night and minx. You've come across 1/2 sealed 940 00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:40,830 opening into a fabulous pitch black tunnel, and there's a hint 941 00:56:40,830 --> 00:56:44,150 of warm pictured air sweeping from within. 942 00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:48,550 Fathomous and Peach and pitch black, just like my sorrow. 943 00:56:50,070 --> 00:56:54,870 Hey I don't know if y'all care about this, but it seems like I 944 00:56:54,870 --> 00:57:00,070 found an opening. I'm going to go. 945 00:57:00,070 --> 00:57:03,030 We're literally just a bunch of depressed people and it's just 946 00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:06,150 like, sure, I guess we'll go, there's nothing else to do. 947 00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:09,350 What do we have for us up here? You know, like, let's might as 948 00:57:09,350 --> 00:57:12,910 well check it out. Yeah, my computer is knowing as 949 00:57:12,910 --> 00:57:16,750 well, so I'm going to knowing into this whole really sad. 950 00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:21,020 And I'm DRY, so yeah. That sounds great. 951 00:57:25,540 --> 00:57:27,820 OK. You start, you start to stumble 952 00:57:27,820 --> 00:57:31,860 down into the darkness and there's kind of, you notice a 953 00:57:31,860 --> 00:57:35,140 kind of residual light here, like there's this sort of 954 00:57:35,140 --> 00:57:41,340 glowing around around floor level and you start to see that 955 00:57:41,340 --> 00:57:47,540 there's this sort of grand entryway opening up and it looks 956 00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:51,230 kind of. They're like columns. 957 00:57:51,550 --> 00:57:55,830 There's like a marble floor and then these these strange logos 958 00:57:55,830 --> 00:58:02,750 on the on the walls and yeah, your, your it looks like the 959 00:58:02,750 --> 00:58:07,830 columns look. I mean you understand, you know, 960 00:58:07,830 --> 00:58:11,590 some things from from the olden times and they're what you would 961 00:58:11,590 --> 00:58:16,350 call like neoclassical. They're sort of like like like 962 00:58:16,350 --> 00:58:23,570 Greek style columns. Yeah. 963 00:58:23,570 --> 00:58:27,090 And the the, the floor is kind of covered in kind of a strange 964 00:58:27,410 --> 00:58:37,570 pattern, kind of alternating different colors and all the way 965 00:58:37,570 --> 00:58:41,410 through, yeah, you kind of look around the room and you can see 966 00:58:41,490 --> 00:58:49,310 the the far, the far door. Has been barricaded by a huge, 967 00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:56,070 huge kind of pile of primary colored office furniture, all 968 00:58:56,070 --> 00:59:00,070 kind of pushed up against that door. 969 00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:04,950 Y'all think that stuff's there for a reason? 970 00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:07,790 Or did they just do that? No. 971 00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:10,310 Couldn't be there for any reason at all, could it? 972 00:59:13,610 --> 00:59:16,010 I might take some of those pieces of furniture and get 973 00:59:16,010 --> 00:59:18,970 comfortable down here in this petrid dark hole. 974 00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:23,890 As you look around, you see some things are moving. 975 00:59:24,090 --> 00:59:31,370 There's a bunch of robots. Let's see, there's a couple of 976 00:59:31,370 --> 00:59:34,770 robots. And as you watch them, one of 977 00:59:34,770 --> 00:59:39,330 them is shouting be lucky, be lucky, be lucky. 978 00:59:40,530 --> 00:59:43,890 And the other one is shouting. World difference. 979 00:59:43,970 --> 00:59:49,290 Execute and they're they're kind of moving around the space and. 980 00:59:49,330 --> 00:59:51,130 They're shouting at each other or less. 981 00:59:52,570 --> 00:59:57,610 They seem to be shouting at at you. 982 00:59:57,610 --> 01:00:00,970 They seem disturbed by the fact that you're there and they they, 983 01:00:01,250 --> 01:00:04,410 they, but they seem to be following a very particular path 984 01:00:04,410 --> 01:00:06,690 across the room to you. They're not kind of coming 985 01:00:06,690 --> 01:00:10,490 straight at you, They're kind of going particular kind of zigzag 986 01:00:10,490 --> 01:00:12,700 pattern. It looks like they're kind of 987 01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:15,420 following some of the the tiling that's on the floor. 988 01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:18,820 Huh. Is it like, are they following 989 01:00:18,820 --> 01:00:21,540 like a single color of tile across the floor? 990 01:00:23,460 --> 01:00:25,740 Yes, yes, they're following the white tile. 991 01:00:26,140 --> 01:00:29,260 I'm gonna stand on whatever color they're not going on, so 992 01:00:29,260 --> 01:00:32,300 and then I'm gonna start walking on those tiles towards them. 993 01:00:33,740 --> 01:00:38,680 OK, so I think. They're, they're they're large. 994 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,200 They're kind of like, yeah, a couple of feet wide each one. 995 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,040 Yeah, like large pavement slabs and. 996 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:50,000 Yeah, and as you step on one of those tiles, it just opens up 997 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,160 beneath you and you fall through into the into a space below. 998 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,120 What are the what are the other two of you? 999 01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:02,160 How far? Like, yeah, I think I'm just 1000 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:06,440 going to jump in the hole. That's like, that's like 1001 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,660 philosophy. For this game, I'm just gonna 1002 01:01:08,660 --> 01:01:10,620 stink in the hole. That's my stock on. 1003 01:01:11,020 --> 01:01:11,900 OK. OK. 1004 01:01:11,980 --> 01:01:15,140 You both go down kind of. Yeah. 1005 01:01:15,940 --> 01:01:19,420 I'm just gonna. OK. 1006 01:01:19,540 --> 01:01:23,180 But you, Honey Wang. Oh no, I just go to the edge of 1007 01:01:23,180 --> 01:01:25,820 the hole and I'm like perfect and exactly what you wanted to 1008 01:01:25,820 --> 01:01:31,140 do. Right job guys, where to be? 1009 01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:34,100 Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't too far, but you did 1010 01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:38,140 take. You both take two damage to your 1011 01:01:38,140 --> 01:01:47,460 strength because of that. Fall Where are we now? 1012 01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:50,860 Like, what are the surroundings? You're down, you're in a very 1013 01:01:50,860 --> 01:01:55,660 dark space and there's lots of kind of strange little lights 1014 01:01:55,980 --> 01:02:04,820 moving all around in the wall. I can't see what's causing the 1015 01:02:04,820 --> 01:02:07,960 lights. Is organic or like machine? 1016 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,520 Are. They fireflies. 1017 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,280 Or you can tell they're definitely machine. 1018 01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:19,760 There's lots of LEDs, and you see that the room's circular 1019 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,280 with a series of shallow alcoves. 1020 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,880 And actually kind of your eyes adjust to the darkness, you can 1021 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,770 see that they're. In each alcove is a strange 1022 01:02:33,770 --> 01:02:36,490 piece of Chrome plated technology. 1023 01:02:36,570 --> 01:02:41,610 Or this next one holds this kind of weird thing that doesn't look 1024 01:02:41,610 --> 01:02:43,610 like it's from this planet in fact. 1025 01:02:44,450 --> 01:02:51,090 And then the third one's A vial with some sort of alien beast 1026 01:02:51,090 --> 01:02:55,210 inside. I think I wanna try to pull the 1027 01:02:55,210 --> 01:02:58,170 Chrome little artifact out of the wall and handle it and take 1028 01:02:58,170 --> 01:03:01,090 a look at it. OK. 1029 01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:06,450 Yeah, you. You. 1030 01:03:07,330 --> 01:03:08,210 Pull it out. It's. 1031 01:03:09,770 --> 01:03:13,850 It just seems to be kind of an Oval piece of metal. 1032 01:03:13,850 --> 01:03:19,130 It has a strange weight to it, like it's much lighter than it 1033 01:03:19,130 --> 01:03:22,890 should be. Yeah. 1034 01:03:24,010 --> 01:03:28,010 Is it too big for me to eat? Yeah, it's kind of. 1035 01:03:28,050 --> 01:03:29,970 It's kind of. It wouldn't fit down your 1036 01:03:29,970 --> 01:03:33,570 throat, no okay. Is it Is it like obviously 1037 01:03:33,770 --> 01:03:36,850 mechanical? Like can I can I intervene with 1038 01:03:36,850 --> 01:03:40,450 it and take it apart? Because like I could, I wanna 1039 01:03:40,450 --> 01:03:44,770 try and override. It's like electronic security 1040 01:03:44,970 --> 01:03:46,890 business. Yeah, it's pretty much. 1041 01:03:46,890 --> 01:03:49,570 It's pretty much just a solid, solid shape. 1042 01:03:49,970 --> 01:03:55,090 So like, it's. Yeah, So what? 1043 01:03:55,090 --> 01:03:56,650 What? Tell me about the lights again. 1044 01:03:56,650 --> 01:04:01,700 I wanna use my abilities. I'm I'm gonna start taking shit 1045 01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:04,700 apart and putting it back together in an 18 OK file. 1046 01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:06,260 Fashion, OK. OK. 1047 01:04:06,260 --> 01:04:11,140 So you you're having a look around and you kind of see that 1048 01:04:11,140 --> 01:04:14,580 there's a switch on a panel there. 1049 01:04:17,060 --> 01:04:20,060 Yeah, you can see that it's kind of it's wired up to do 1050 01:04:20,060 --> 01:04:22,780 something. What would you like to do? 1051 01:04:23,380 --> 01:04:27,260 I'm gonna try and wire it in a useful fashion. 1052 01:04:28,430 --> 01:04:31,310 Like have. Them open something. 1053 01:04:31,950 --> 01:04:34,310 Yeah, as you kind of fiddle with it. 1054 01:04:34,310 --> 01:04:40,350 This array opens and a kind of panel the size of a hand opens 1055 01:04:40,350 --> 01:04:41,990 up. Okay. 1056 01:04:42,030 --> 01:04:45,750 Cool, yeah. And it's. 1057 01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:48,710 I don't know. Yeah, What are you up to? 1058 01:04:48,710 --> 01:04:51,790 How are? You doing doing security 1059 01:04:51,790 --> 01:04:53,430 drawings. So how? 1060 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:55,440 Yeah. How? 1061 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,040 What? What? 1062 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,600 How far down did they? Can I see them or they even the? 1063 01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:06,240 Well it's it's yeah, it's much, much too dark to see them per 1064 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:10,560 se, but you can kind of you can hear them and you can tell that 1065 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,480 they're safe. You heard the thud, so you know 1066 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,280 that it's it's not too far. It's like kind of probably 1067 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,120 probably like like 12 feet drop or something. 1068 01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:23,750 Okay. And then what's happening with 1069 01:05:23,750 --> 01:05:26,590 the security droids up? Yeah, so the droids are coming. 1070 01:05:26,590 --> 01:05:28,230 The droids are coming up to you, and they're kind of, like 1071 01:05:28,310 --> 01:05:30,150 hassling you. They're kind of right next to 1072 01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:32,750 you. But they they seem to be kind of 1073 01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:35,510 generally, like, bustling against you. 1074 01:05:35,510 --> 01:05:37,110 But they're not hurting you, per se. 1075 01:05:37,110 --> 01:05:38,710 They're just, like, being annoying. 1076 01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:45,750 Can I? Can I just, like, smack one into 1077 01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:46,190 the hole? Yeah. 1078 01:05:48,910 --> 01:05:52,070 Actually. Just like just like. 1079 01:05:52,790 --> 01:05:56,030 Like a, like a, like a when you. Talk to my. 1080 01:05:56,150 --> 01:06:01,710 Church, you know. Let's let's let's yeah I think I 1081 01:06:01,710 --> 01:06:03,870 think that would be the Droid would have to make a check for 1082 01:06:03,870 --> 01:06:06,790 that let's it'll does it manage to get out of the way. 1083 01:06:06,790 --> 01:06:12,190 No it doesn't So yeah it's just I I I rolled Z20 tried to roll 1084 01:06:12,190 --> 01:06:16,750 under 10 which would be its decks and it failed So it's it's 1085 01:06:16,750 --> 01:06:20,030 falling into the tunnel and it lands on its back and kind of. 1086 01:06:20,740 --> 01:06:22,540 Kind of falls apart of the of the base. 1087 01:06:22,540 --> 01:06:25,980 It's quite kind of a broken thing already. 1088 01:06:25,980 --> 01:06:30,860 So it's it's just it's it's now kind of leading in the darkness 1089 01:06:31,180 --> 01:06:34,020 and actually it's there, there's kind of some some lights on it 1090 01:06:34,060 --> 01:06:37,620 that they're kind of lighting up the place a little bit so you 1091 01:06:37,660 --> 01:06:42,060 can kind of see. Eat down there I I look at the 1092 01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:48,300 broken thing falling apart and envy it a bit that it is into. 1093 01:06:52,530 --> 01:06:55,690 The three worst people you know go on an adventure, right? 1094 01:06:59,650 --> 01:07:01,130 How many security joins are up here? 1095 01:07:01,130 --> 01:07:03,290 Because I don't. Know there's just one more. 1096 01:07:03,330 --> 01:07:04,570 There's just one more next to you, so. 1097 01:07:05,770 --> 01:07:11,330 I, I I I think, I think if I get the taste for it I want more 1098 01:07:11,330 --> 01:07:13,530 Droid murder. So I would love to kind of like 1099 01:07:13,530 --> 01:07:15,410 back in back in this one in there. 1100 01:07:15,810 --> 01:07:20,900 You know get the yeah. Okay, this one fails too. 1101 01:07:20,940 --> 01:07:24,580 So you just yeah, you just kind of shove it down and yeah, it 1102 01:07:24,580 --> 01:07:28,740 lands lands straight on its head and kind of crumples into a heap 1103 01:07:29,260 --> 01:07:30,300 down there. Right. 1104 01:07:30,340 --> 01:07:33,860 So and then with the, with the added light from the droids down 1105 01:07:33,860 --> 01:07:37,740 there now, am I able to kind of see it all of of what's going 1106 01:07:37,740 --> 01:07:39,740 down there or or see people, Yeah, so. 1107 01:07:39,820 --> 01:07:43,500 You can, you can see, you can see both your compatriots and 1108 01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:44,740 you can see them wandering around. 1109 01:07:44,740 --> 01:07:47,740 You can see you can even just about make out that this this 1110 01:07:47,740 --> 01:07:51,420 little panel has opened up and. They're having a look at the 1111 01:07:51,580 --> 01:07:53,660 these these kind of strange artifacts. 1112 01:07:53,780 --> 01:07:56,500 Minx is down there pondering the orb you know. 1113 01:08:00,260 --> 01:08:05,940 You got it, but yeah. Yeah, so I've got this weird 1114 01:08:05,940 --> 01:08:08,540 panel that's opened. Now you've got these like 2 1115 01:08:08,540 --> 01:08:11,620 droids. So can I just like use one of 1116 01:08:11,620 --> 01:08:15,540 the droids to to like help me with the panel? 1117 01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:17,859 The panel's still a bit of a mystery to me. 1118 01:08:18,740 --> 01:08:20,700 Okay. So yeah, you're looking at this 1119 01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:22,100 panel. What could it be? 1120 01:08:22,700 --> 01:08:25,540 You're kind of okay. You're digging into the wiring, 1121 01:08:25,580 --> 01:08:32,020 yes, of the thing. What your what is your abilities 1122 01:08:32,020 --> 01:08:36,460 as your character? So I've got like a mini keyboard 1123 01:08:36,460 --> 01:08:40,260 implant that can repurpose any electronic item and override 1124 01:08:40,260 --> 01:08:42,760 electronic security. Kind of process. 1125 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:44,800 OK. OK. 1126 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,399 So you're you're kind of having a look at this. 1127 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:54,319 Thing I've also because my extra items I've also got I've got 1128 01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:58,760 some absolutely useless shit. But amongst that like a I've got 1129 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,800 like a a sourcepum lid. I think it. 1130 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,200 Could be used for the shield though, but among that I have 1131 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,040 actually got some electric circuits. 1132 01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:09,840 So I've got like a handful of electric circuits. 1133 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,399 Okay. Now this is really interesting. 1134 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,040 Okay. So you're actively taking apart 1135 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,920 this mechanism and you're you're kind of starting to understand 1136 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,279 what this is doing that this is actually like a control 1137 01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:28,880 mechanism and it's like a like a starter control for something 1138 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,200 and it's like and you realize that if. 1139 01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:38,580 Under the right circumstances, this thing will start whatever 1140 01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:45,220 is down here. And yeah, OK, why don't we? 1141 01:09:45,340 --> 01:09:50,340 I'm gonna Why don't you roll for luck or wisdom? 1142 01:09:50,340 --> 01:09:51,340 Your choice. Done. 1143 01:09:53,260 --> 01:09:54,900 They're gonna do luck. I think so. 1144 01:09:55,260 --> 01:09:58,220 Played an absolute blinder. I got 12 for luck. 1145 01:09:58,780 --> 01:10:03,060 Oh, OK, so you need to roll 12 or less on luck to be lucky. 1146 01:10:12,580 --> 01:10:18,540 OK, yes, A roll an 8. OK, OK, right. 1147 01:10:18,940 --> 01:10:25,420 So you realize that this this panel, it needs a particular 1148 01:10:25,420 --> 01:10:30,100 hand to activate it. It needs like a particular 1149 01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:32,820 input, but you're able to override that. 1150 01:10:33,450 --> 01:10:37,810 Like you've managed to through good luck and good engineering 1151 01:10:38,210 --> 01:10:42,210 and the fact that your character has this adaptation that it 1152 01:10:42,210 --> 01:10:47,250 does. You can actually, yeah, you 1153 01:10:47,250 --> 01:10:50,050 could actually just start the ignition on this thing if you 1154 01:10:50,450 --> 01:10:53,730 wanted, just with the Press of an enter key on your special 1155 01:10:53,730 --> 01:10:55,930 keyboard. Amazing. 1156 01:10:56,690 --> 01:10:59,190 Should I do it? Like, Oh yeah, sorry. 1157 01:10:59,190 --> 01:11:01,790 I look up in the orb and I'm like, Oh yeah, absolutely, you 1158 01:11:01,790 --> 01:11:04,670 should do it. Go back to pondering the orb. 1159 01:11:08,630 --> 01:11:11,510 So do I do I risk a burden for doing all this, David? 1160 01:11:11,710 --> 01:11:12,470 I'm like, am I? No. 1161 01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:15,190 No, no, you're not under pressure. 1162 01:11:15,190 --> 01:11:17,230 So this isn't like during combat. 1163 01:11:17,230 --> 01:11:20,270 It's not like it's just this is the thing you can do. 1164 01:11:20,270 --> 01:11:24,670 So yeah, it's it's it's fine. It's just like part of part of 1165 01:11:24,670 --> 01:11:30,760 how you've you've adapted so. You you press the you press 1166 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,880 enter and suddenly everything starts to shake the the door 1167 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:42,200 door closes, the the where you came down feels off and 1168 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:48,080 everything starts rumbling and you feel yourself start to move 1169 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:53,320 up. You hear crunching and and just 1170 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:59,190 everything just. It's integrating around you at 1171 01:12:00,630 --> 01:12:08,390 this particular room starts to lift up into the ground and 1172 01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:11,430 you're flying you can you start to see the landscape in front of 1173 01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:16,630 you. You're in you're in some an 1174 01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:18,430 interplanetary where's. Honey weighing at. 1175 01:12:22,270 --> 01:12:28,430 I'm hoping that you fell down at that time as as as it was 1176 01:12:28,430 --> 01:12:31,670 starting to steal. What do you do? 1177 01:12:31,790 --> 01:12:36,270 Honey Wang yeah, I I think. I think after I knocked the the 1178 01:12:36,270 --> 01:12:41,230 the bot in, my plan was to go down there anyway and I was 1179 01:12:41,230 --> 01:12:43,390 going to like. Try to hold. 1180 01:12:43,390 --> 01:12:45,790 I was going to try to hold onto the edge. 1181 01:12:45,790 --> 01:12:48,030 Instead of like jumping in, hold on the edge and then like 1182 01:12:48,030 --> 01:12:50,190 hanging down. So it's not like 12 feet, it's 1183 01:12:50,190 --> 01:12:54,250 more like dropping like. You know, like 7 feet, I think. 1184 01:12:54,290 --> 01:12:55,050 I think. Right as. 1185 01:12:55,410 --> 01:12:59,410 I was like, right, right. I mean, you know, climbed rocks 1186 01:12:59,410 --> 01:13:01,570 before. I think right as I was like 1187 01:13:01,570 --> 01:13:04,290 grabbing the edge and like getting ready to kind of like 1188 01:13:04,730 --> 01:13:07,530 let myself down, the whole thing just started rocking and I 1189 01:13:07,530 --> 01:13:10,650 definitely went like right, right onto the robot pile. 1190 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:21,280 And that is the end of the adventure because you discovered 1191 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,440 like the the secret. Like it's it's like a it's 1192 01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:26,760 basically the Easter egg in the in the adventure. 1193 01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,760 Like it's not supposed to be like you're yeah, there's a 1194 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,240 whole thing that the whole adventure goes through and 1195 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:38,040 you're supposed to get the hand of this this asshole billionaire 1196 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,280 and put it on the thing if if you kind of manage to find this 1197 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,720 secret space anyway. But hey. 1198 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:51,240 I said it was a one shot. That's so funny. 1199 01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:55,440 That is so absolutely hilarious. I don't know if you'll know 1200 01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:57,120 this. But we have a we have a tendency 1201 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,800 for ending episodes early because I blow everything up, 1202 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,640 so. Eventually, like I, I I never 1203 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,200 expected anyone. So what are we flying, let alone 1204 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,160 discover the thing, huh? Is it a ship or what? 1205 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:14,600 The thing that's flying, it's like a. 1206 01:14:15,540 --> 01:14:18,460 Yeah, it's like a it's craft. Nice. 1207 01:14:19,740 --> 01:14:21,300 Yeah. So, yeah. 1208 01:14:21,300 --> 01:14:24,260 So, so suddenly the the party will have a spacecraft and be 1209 01:14:24,260 --> 01:14:27,460 able to kind of move around the planet or kind of go off to Mars 1210 01:14:27,460 --> 01:14:30,780 or whatever, like, yeah. Awesome. 1211 01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:34,380 It kind of opens up the campaign, it opens up the world, 1212 01:14:34,380 --> 01:14:37,620 but it's like, yeah, it was, it's sort of just there, It's 1213 01:14:37,780 --> 01:14:39,660 just just waiting to be discovered. 1214 01:14:39,660 --> 01:14:43,340 But if it's not, it's kind of a fun little kind of dungeon dove, 1215 01:14:43,340 --> 01:14:45,340 basically. But yeah, you you got there 1216 01:14:45,340 --> 01:14:48,820 straight away. Oh, that's so cool. 1217 01:14:48,860 --> 01:14:52,820 So is this adventure included with this Is included in the 1218 01:14:53,460 --> 01:14:54,300 this? Is in the bundle. 1219 01:14:54,380 --> 01:14:56,700 Yeah, this is in the bundle. There's a hole in the ground. 1220 01:14:57,140 --> 01:15:00,020 It's one of the who's one. It wasn't even the stretch goal. 1221 01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:02,700 I just kind of bunked it in the, I think. 1222 01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:06,820 It's a great way to open up like a bigger campaign to get like, 1223 01:15:06,820 --> 01:15:09,260 yeah, here's a here's a vehicle, here's a big vehicle. 1224 01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:11,300 Yeah, exactly. It kind of, it opens 1225 01:15:11,300 --> 01:15:13,300 possibilities. It's like it's like that moment 1226 01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:16,140 in in all the Final Fantasy games where it's like, yeah, 1227 01:15:16,140 --> 01:15:18,860 I've got suddenly we've got like an airship and it's like like 1228 01:15:18,860 --> 01:15:21,420 the world opens up to you. It's like, yeah, you've. 1229 01:15:21,940 --> 01:15:25,100 Referenced Final Fantasy so many times in this show. 1230 01:15:25,820 --> 01:15:27,700 No, no, it's. Not at all a bad thing. 1231 01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:29,860 It's just like very interesting to see, like, that's a big. 1232 01:15:30,100 --> 01:15:34,380 Inspiration for? I just, I've just spent so many 1233 01:15:34,380 --> 01:15:41,220 hours in those worlds, you know 45678 and all the tactics games 1234 01:15:41,220 --> 01:15:43,460 and stuff. Like, yeah, it's just just like 1235 01:15:43,820 --> 01:15:46,820 that's that's all, it's all kind of part of the the DNA of this 1236 01:15:46,820 --> 01:15:49,940 thing, but, but yeah. I mean that's a good, that's a 1237 01:15:49,940 --> 01:15:52,420 good place to get, you know, DNA from. 1238 01:15:52,420 --> 01:15:57,220 I played four quite a bit and then I played seven and eight 1239 01:15:57,420 --> 01:16:05,340 quite a bit. And 10 a lot and 10 to more than 1240 01:16:05,460 --> 01:16:11,020 I wanted to. So very. 1241 01:16:11,140 --> 01:16:15,020 Cool. I no I absolutely 7 is one of 1242 01:16:15,020 --> 01:16:18,540 the top three. Greatest games I've ever played, 1243 01:16:18,540 --> 01:16:21,660 ever, but we'll see where that goes. 1244 01:16:22,460 --> 01:16:24,420 I I can't believe character creation took long in the the 1245 01:16:24,460 --> 01:16:26,860 adventure because we somehow literally be lined. 1246 01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:30,260 In the only possible way it. Is in like 30 minutes. 1247 01:16:30,580 --> 01:16:32,940 So. So for those listening hey, 1248 01:16:32,940 --> 01:16:39,660 first of all spoiler alert and 2nd, we didn't quite give you as 1249 01:16:39,660 --> 01:16:47,050 much of the game, but this is. How it works and it was super 1250 01:16:47,050 --> 01:16:51,490 fun yeah it's hysterical. I I really really love the 1251 01:16:52,610 --> 01:16:55,210 combination of Emmy the Odd and and Bastards here because it's 1252 01:16:55,210 --> 01:16:57,410 one of the things that I loved about Bastards and and and 1253 01:16:57,410 --> 01:17:02,650 Hunter you've run a lot more Bastards than I have is is that 1254 01:17:02,650 --> 01:17:06,290 like role for HP mechanic and you've done an incredible job of 1255 01:17:06,330 --> 01:17:09,210 of using that role table and nesting these other other things 1256 01:17:09,210 --> 01:17:15,410 into it was that always the the. From the very beginning, was the 1257 01:17:15,410 --> 01:17:20,330 plan always bastards, or did that, especially the kind of 1258 01:17:20,330 --> 01:17:23,170 like surge of bastard stuff recently kind of make you go a 1259 01:17:23,170 --> 01:17:24,410 little into the odds of bastards? 1260 01:17:24,810 --> 01:17:28,850 It was literally that was the impetus I'd seen Micah 1261 01:17:28,850 --> 01:17:31,970 Anderson's bastards thought it was really cool, really nice 1262 01:17:31,970 --> 01:17:37,580 system, but I kind of. Yeah, that I I had some small 1263 01:17:37,580 --> 01:17:41,020 things that I I wasn't so happy with like the resolution system 1264 01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:42,900 and things. Nothing against the game. 1265 01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:47,540 It's just it just didn't deal with me and I just thought that 1266 01:17:47,620 --> 01:17:50,940 it could be a fun thing to kind of just mash them together. 1267 01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:53,540 And yeah, like I said it was before per listen edition or 1268 01:17:53,540 --> 01:17:55,460 anything. It's like, yeah, almost a couple 1269 01:17:55,460 --> 01:17:57,980 of years ago or something, whenever that was. 1270 01:17:58,980 --> 01:18:02,180 But yeah and it just it just sort of flowed from there and. 1271 01:18:03,290 --> 01:18:05,810 You know first of all it was basically just a character 1272 01:18:05,810 --> 01:18:09,610 creation game like as in like you know it's into the odd but 1273 01:18:09,610 --> 01:18:14,490 with these with these this kind of creation system and then it 1274 01:18:14,490 --> 01:18:16,690 just kind of enlarged from there. 1275 01:18:16,690 --> 01:18:20,090 And you know, but always with with with like the lore and the 1276 01:18:20,090 --> 01:18:23,770 vibe kind of kind of stuck in the beginning like like some of 1277 01:18:23,770 --> 01:18:28,130 the intro text like you know the world's gone to shit type stuff 1278 01:18:28,130 --> 01:18:30,570 was just like it was right there at the at the beginning it was 1279 01:18:30,570 --> 01:18:33,820 just like this is. This is the energy that this 1280 01:18:33,820 --> 01:18:37,140 game needs is like kind of, yeah, screw the world, we've 1281 01:18:37,140 --> 01:18:39,980 gotta make this a better place. So it's like, yeah. 1282 01:18:40,340 --> 01:18:45,180 One of the things we didn't do today, which one of my favorite 1283 01:18:45,180 --> 01:18:47,920 things is the life part. Yeah, that's true. 1284 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,000 Yeah, it's so much fun. I love that. 1285 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,360 I know it's not unique to this game, but the whole thing, the 1286 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,200 fact that the character can die before you've even played it, 1287 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,120 it's so awesome. Yeah, I've refined it. 1288 01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:06,080 Refined it a bit for the. For the actual, like, yeah, the 1289 01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,760 version that we're going to put out and it's it's like Russian 1290 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:11,000 roulette. So if you roll A1, the character 1291 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,600 dies and it's on a D6. So it's like it's each each 1292 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,240 decade that you add to their life. 1293 01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,520 It's like kind of you can get good things, you can get bad 1294 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,040 things, but yeah, they could die. 1295 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,840 So it's like, don't, don't push your luck too much. 1296 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:31,710 So yeah. Now since since we did kind of 1297 01:19:31,710 --> 01:19:34,510 only scratch the surface, was there any other part of 1298 01:19:34,830 --> 01:19:38,670 ecomofos? Because because people can get 1299 01:19:38,670 --> 01:19:41,110 the this beta version that's out right now, right? 1300 01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:43,590 And what you've done really is most of what in the beta 1301 01:19:43,590 --> 01:19:45,870 version, what's in the final game is it's just been refined 1302 01:19:45,870 --> 01:19:47,750 and relaid out. No, exactly. 1303 01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:48,950 It's been, it's been. It's. 1304 01:19:50,170 --> 01:19:55,810 Is being edited by Eco and we're kind of refining it and making 1305 01:19:55,810 --> 01:19:58,330 it tighter. And yeah, just just making sure 1306 01:19:58,330 --> 01:20:02,530 everything fits, fits into the world correctly and gives it the 1307 01:20:02,530 --> 01:20:07,330 right vibe and is kind of legible and understandable 1308 01:20:07,330 --> 01:20:09,970 without kind of me standing over someone saying, no, you're not 1309 01:20:09,970 --> 01:20:13,330 not supposed to do it that way, but it's like, you know, making, 1310 01:20:13,330 --> 01:20:16,850 making everything kind of sing really and that that's all going 1311 01:20:16,850 --> 01:20:19,110 to go into. Into every version. 1312 01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:23,310 So you know whether you from, whether you back for as a PDF or 1313 01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:27,710 as a spiral as the art book, it's like it's just all the text 1314 01:20:27,710 --> 01:20:29,550 is going to be the same. It's just going to be laid out 1315 01:20:29,550 --> 01:20:32,150 in kind of slightly different ways, kind of more compact for 1316 01:20:32,150 --> 01:20:36,150 the spiral version and kind of just a bit more generous for the 1317 01:20:36,150 --> 01:20:38,340 art book as we call it. Gotcha. 1318 01:20:38,780 --> 01:20:41,660 And since we only, like I said, really kind of got to scratch 1319 01:20:41,660 --> 01:20:44,260 the surface of ecomopos. Were there any other like 1320 01:20:44,460 --> 01:20:47,780 specific mechanics or other parts that you really wanted to 1321 01:20:47,780 --> 01:20:50,260 make sure that people looked at in the beta version, something 1322 01:20:50,260 --> 01:20:53,660 that like really stuck out or shined or any other part of the 1323 01:20:53,660 --> 01:20:55,380 game or the stuff that comes with it? 1324 01:20:56,170 --> 01:20:59,570 I guess, I guess there's obviously the burden system that 1325 01:20:59,570 --> 01:21:03,330 was taken, it was kind of adapting something from Mystic 1326 01:21:03,330 --> 01:21:06,930 Bastion Land, which is the game that Chris McDowell is currently 1327 01:21:06,930 --> 01:21:08,890 working on. I think he's discarded burdens 1328 01:21:08,890 --> 01:21:13,130 now, but I think they're really great they're they're like it's 1329 01:21:13,250 --> 01:21:20,210 a system whereby if something difficult happens or like you 1330 01:21:21,610 --> 01:21:25,710 like risk a burden. Lots of the abilities mean that 1331 01:21:25,710 --> 01:21:29,830 you have to kind of roll against your luck in order to not take a 1332 01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:33,430 burden. It kind of fills up your 1333 01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:36,950 inventory swap. It means that, yeah, you have 1334 01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:40,310 this, you're kind of slightly curtailed for a while. 1335 01:21:40,850 --> 01:21:45,170 Unless you do a certain things and that it's always like 2 1336 01:21:45,410 --> 01:21:47,970 opposite things. So like like like we had for 1337 01:21:47,970 --> 01:21:53,250 sad, it was like kind of either in tell a secret or you indulge 1338 01:21:53,250 --> 01:21:55,410 in a secret vice. It's like kind of there's 1339 01:21:55,410 --> 01:21:58,490 there's these different pathways that you can take to in order to 1340 01:21:58,490 --> 01:22:01,170 resolve it so. Yeah, I like the enraged one. 1341 01:22:01,170 --> 01:22:05,290 It was like, yeah. It's it's it's really like. 1342 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,840 Trying to bring in some of that kind of the ideas from kind of 1343 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,040 story gaming and kind of thinking about how to inject 1344 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,840 different different impetuses, different kind of motivations. 1345 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:20,400 And it's also a way of trying to stop because it's quite possible 1346 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,440 to play like into the yard and can in a very hyper cautious way 1347 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,480 and always like be very level headed and kind of think through 1348 01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:31,440 things rationally. What you you can do, you can do, 1349 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,800 but this encourages you to kind of. 1350 01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:40,710 To act in maybe slightly, slightly disadvantageous ways in 1351 01:22:40,710 --> 01:22:42,470 order to relieve yourself of your burden. 1352 01:22:42,470 --> 01:22:45,150 So it's like it just kind of adds a little complication into 1353 01:22:45,150 --> 01:22:46,670 that, but yeah. Cool, gotcha. 1354 01:22:47,550 --> 01:22:49,510 Yeah. What was the Chrome orb? 1355 01:22:49,670 --> 01:22:50,910 I just want to know now, what was the. 1356 01:22:52,030 --> 01:22:54,910 It's just a weird alien thing. It's like it's just just a 1357 01:22:54,910 --> 01:22:57,430 thing. Make up what it is there you. 1358 01:22:58,310 --> 01:23:00,110 Go. I'm going to spend the rest of 1359 01:23:00,110 --> 01:23:02,430 your time pondering. Yeah, always. 1360 01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:04,870 Just like. Just like real life, frankly so. 1361 01:23:05,150 --> 01:23:07,550 Yeah, exactly. Now I'm afraid. 1362 01:23:07,550 --> 01:23:09,390 I'm afraid. Guys, I've gotta go. 1363 01:23:09,630 --> 01:23:13,590 I'm being called by my family. It's perfect that works out that 1364 01:23:13,590 --> 01:23:16,070 we are flying away in the alien spaceship and you get to go, 1365 01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:17,030 yeah. We really. 1366 01:23:17,070 --> 01:23:17,590 Seriously. Yeah. 1367 01:23:19,550 --> 01:23:21,590 Yeah. No, we appreciate you so much 1368 01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:23,310 for being here. I mean Hunter and I have talked 1369 01:23:23,310 --> 01:23:24,910 about Lost the Ends for a really long time. 1370 01:23:24,910 --> 01:23:26,990 Definitely still planning to talk about this on the show at 1371 01:23:26,990 --> 01:23:32,350 some point, both box sets and and it's super excited for you. 1372 01:23:32,350 --> 01:23:34,510 Kamopos, if you guys are listening, definitely go check 1373 01:23:34,510 --> 01:23:37,070 on the beta version, definitely go back to the Kickstarter. 1374 01:23:37,070 --> 01:23:38,710 The art is fantastic from Daniel. 1375 01:23:38,710 --> 01:23:41,670 It's absolutely stunning. The game is super, super fun. 1376 01:23:42,350 --> 01:23:43,790 It's just it's a really great time. 1377 01:23:43,790 --> 01:23:45,990 It's a really great vibe from some really fantastic people. 1378 01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:48,230 So this is definitely something you don't want to miss. 1379 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,600 So again, really appreciate both of you guys coming on. 1380 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,520 It's been an absolute blast and. Having us. 1381 01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:56,880 Yeah, it's been awesome. Thanks so much. 1382 01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:57,880 Thanks for coming on. Yeah. 1383 01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,000 Wanted to come on for so long, so it's awesome. 1384 01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:01,920 Thank you. Thanks, guys. 1385 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,080 And you guys know what all our socials are? 1386 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,280 It's listed on everywhere. I'm not gonna go over it. 1387 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,880 Everyone have a wonderful day. We'll see you guys all later. 1388 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,580 Bye. Later.