1 00:00:15,220 --> 00:00:17,700 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll Podcast. 2 00:00:17,700 --> 00:00:21,100 My name is Ryan. And I'm somewhat of a scientist 3 00:00:21,100 --> 00:00:25,620 myself. And I'm Jared, the guest. 4 00:00:26,020 --> 00:00:29,020 Now. Yeah, it's funny because we have 5 00:00:29,020 --> 00:00:33,360 the father of cats and cat Dad. I'm a cat dad. 6 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,080 I love my cat dad shirt. I get so many compliments on it 7 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,240 everywhere I go. Like that's the people down 8 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,240 here. They're just like, that's 9 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,120 hilarious. That's so hilarious. 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,440 They think it's political and it's like, no, like I'm just a 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,160 cat dad. They think it's political. 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,720 No, no, I just really like cats. Hey do you guys want to see my 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,680 new kitten? Yes, I don't. 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,680 OK, Ryan's trying. To figure out how Cat Dad would 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,840 be political. I'm literally like why? 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,720 How is Cat Dad political? Because when during the election 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:07,440 they call in, someone called someone a crazy cat lady. 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,720 I don't remember. Yeah. 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:16,720 Interesting I. Don't. 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,400 There's so much that comes out in that, in that, in that realm, 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,240 every. Day that. 22 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:26,080 That I get sidetracked. I like my cat dad shirt. 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,360 It's nice. It's cool. 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:32,160 I I bought, I did buy a Sesame Street Big Bird shirt. 25 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:35,640 I don't know if you remember when that was the the Weekly. 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,040 Kitty. Yeah, Oh yeah, It's a cat. 27 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,480 For those in podcast land, Guess what? 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,880 It's it's a, it's a small cat. Oh, it's a Kitty. 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,200 What's her name? What's her name? 30 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:48,680 Komagi. Komagi. 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,960 Yeah. How do you spell that? 32 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,480 I don't know, it's Japanese, so. Gotcha. 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,240 It means what? I think it is wheat. 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,720 OK also this is like a new cat because isn't your newest cat 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,160 literally just called like small cat or something? 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,280 Tiny cat, tiny cat. I had tiny cat for like 5 years. 37 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,560 Well, OK, that's cool. There's this fucking cat. 38 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,320 By the way, for those that don't get the joke, this is called not 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,080 cat chats because like, I just don't like cats. 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,440 I've never been a cat person and and I'm allergic and for the 41 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,680 exact like reasons that this that is currently happening on 42 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,600 the episode hunter, whose username on a lot of stuff is 43 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,840 the father of cats and dirt wearing a cat dad shirt is the 44 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,200 reasons it's called not cat chats. 45 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,600 Because when we were trying to come up with a name for what 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,880 this segment would be called cat cats came up and I was like, 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,120 we're not calling it cat chats. And it ended up being called not 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,920 cat chats because we don't talk cats. 49 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:51,800 And yet somehow we have the father of cat holding a cat and 50 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,000 cat. We're talking cats. 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,720 We're talking cats. Yeah, I'm going. 52 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,800 To put her up here in a second, but look at Parrot Cat. 53 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,160 You do have a parrot cat. And then for those that also 54 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,080 don't know, the space Penguin logo which is above my head is 55 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,880 based on your cat. Good job. 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,920 Itty Bitty the space Penguin Kitty. 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,680 Itty bitty the space Penguin Kitty I. 58 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,400 I am wearing my Aunishchi shirt. For those that aren't aware, my 59 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,880 heart is broken and my soul is shattered. 60 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,400 The the most recent BA show, Sumo BA Show ended last evening 61 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:31,080 and Aunishchi, the very young early 20 something Ukrainian 62 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:37,600 sensation in sumo all only had to beat Koto Shoho to push him 63 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:43,600 into a playoff, possibly winning his first U Show and failed. 64 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,480 He lost on that which did not allow the playoff Makashira 15. 65 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:53,960 Koto Shoho came away with the UN, unlike rivaled victory. 66 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,400 Aroniski came in second place, but it does push him into the 67 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,960 Sanyaku, probably komosubi next time, which is insane. 68 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,480 The guy has never had a losing record. 69 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,560 He's never had less than double digit wins in the top division. 70 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,400 He's one of the youngest guys to hit the Sanyaku in like 50 years 71 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,800 or something like that. So I'm very excited but also 72 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,880 very crushed. He could have won EU Show and 73 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,959 that is why I'm wearing my Aroniski shirt today. 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:22,000 So Slava Ukraine, maybe next one? 75 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,080 Yeah. I'm telling you, you both would 76 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,120 love you both would love the shit out of sumo. 77 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,240 It's so much fun. It's so cool. 78 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,640 Just everything about it is is especially you, Jerry. 79 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,160 I feel like you would love the shit out of sumo. 80 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,960 It's so interesting. It's got so much nuance in 81 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,080 history. I mean, sumo in one shape or 82 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,280 like one way shape performance around for like over 800 years 83 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,920 and it's just, I don't know, it's really cool. 84 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,680 It's really interesting, it's neat. 85 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,760 It's got a really cool relegation system, kind of in 86 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,080 the same vein as as football. Oh really? 87 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,040 Where you you get kicked down and you have to play on the on 88 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,560 the lower circuit. Yeah, there's six divisions. 89 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,240 So the the top 2 are the salary divisions. 90 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,280 All you have to do is get a Kachikoshi because there's 15 in 91 00:05:12,280 --> 00:05:15,080 the top 2 divisions. You, you wrestle 15 times, once 92 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,280 a day for 15 days. If you get a winning record, 8 93 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:21,160 and seven, you move up. If you have a losing record, 94 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,320 which is anything less than 8 and seven, you move down. 95 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,680 And if that moving down drops you to the next division, you 96 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,800 drop to the next division and someone else moves up. 97 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,520 It's really, it's really cool, really interesting. 98 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,840 There's a lot, just a lot of depth and fun to it. 99 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:37,800 It's the national story of Japan, sport of Japan. 100 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,160 So all of the people that all the top sumo wrestlers are like 101 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,160 the celebrities of Japan. So they do a bunch of like goofy 102 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,520 commercials and like weird Dick shows and stuff. 103 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,160 Like it's just got the perfect amount of like respect and 104 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,160 sportsmanship and insane skill and then goofball bullshit that 105 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,640 like, I don't know, it's perfect. 106 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Nice. And I bet you they're all cat 107 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,640 guys. Probably. 108 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,760 Probably. Where do I find where do I find 109 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,920 Sumo at? Is it on like a subscription 110 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,440 service that I have to pay for him? 111 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,800 You can, but I always watch it on the Twitch channel Midnight 112 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,560 Sumo. It's this Canadian dude who's 113 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,880 been watching sumo for a long time. 114 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,840 So he streams the free streaming service Abema, which does sumo, 115 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,520 but he's like extremely knowledgeable so he does English 116 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:29,080 commentary over the sumo. So you get a ton of like answer 117 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,240 like the whole chat is also like super welcoming and really 118 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,200 intelligent. So like anything you ask, yeah, 119 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:37,400 it's great. Anything you ask there's they'll 120 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,160 chat, we'll jump in or he'll answer for you. 121 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,920 Everyone is super cool. You learn so much and then 122 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:47,040 what's cool about it too is Twitch vods like like replays 123 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,320 can go for like 36 hours. So he'll do the whole show and 124 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,760 then set it on replay for the entire day and then go live 125 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,520 again for the next one and then replay the entire day, go live 126 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,280 again for the next 1. So for three day stretches, you 127 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:03,160 can literally go back three days and watch whatever matches you 128 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,520 want scrubbing through the Vods. And if you miss it at night, 129 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,640 because for us, like it ends at like 2:00 in the morning, if you 130 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,680 just want to watch it at 11:00 in the morning, you just pull up 131 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,480 the video, scroll back and watch it at your leisure. 132 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,760 Really. It's great. 133 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,440 I love that guy's awesome. One of the few Twitch channels I 134 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,720 actually subscribe to. And again, it's just, it's so 135 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,520 much fun. It's really interesting to learn 136 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,880 about and, and, and on the commercials that Ibima runs. 137 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:34,440 He runs his own commercials because he had people like put 138 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:40,760 together like 90s Japan commercials so that when Twitch 139 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:45,760 is running ads or Ibima is running ads, he'll do like 90s 140 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,560 weird Japan ads or stuff like that. 141 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,880 Stuff like Tommy Lee Jones as an alien doing coffee commercials 142 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,760 for Boss Coffee, you know, like really fun and cool stuff. 143 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,240 So it's just like a fun interesting, you know, Anyway, 144 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,960 but that once again is Sumo. We do have a Sumo channel on our 145 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,160 Discord. Click on any of our links to go 146 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,120 down to Discord. You'll see me and Toki talking 147 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,800 about Sumo all the time and Sumo works. 148 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,080 It's two weeks. It starts on the second Sunday 149 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,480 in Japan. So it's like it's Saturday in 150 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,120 America every other month on the odd months. 151 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:23,040 So January, March, May, July, September, November, 2 weeks of 152 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,800 each, It's 6 tournaments throughout the year, all of 153 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,720 equal importance for 15 straight days every other month. 154 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,080 It's just awesome. So now it's over and I get to be 155 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:37,640 sad for two months and then we'll get the September basho. 156 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,960 Hell yeah. I'll remind you in September, 157 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,919 we'll get you. We'll get you to watch it. 158 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,600 We can hop in early one morning because I've done some viewing 159 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,440 stuff before while bring up the replay just in like a Discord 160 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,520 and just stream it and like talk and explain and hang out. 161 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,720 Like Chris P Wolf was in there before Eric Hill hopped in and 162 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,120 was listening to us like talk about sumo before watching a 163 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,440 replay. So. 164 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,840 Nice. It was neat. 165 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,640 So what game? Are we talking about? 166 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:05,360 Oh, we're not. Hey, we haven't changed it yet 167 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,280 because before we started Jert held up some some dope looking 168 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,240 books that I would like to. Ask. 169 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,040 Wait, Yeah. Oh. 170 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,280 So these are the 1980 published Weird Tales collection, edited 171 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,560 by Lynn Carter. They got some. 172 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,080 They got some pretty wicked covers on them too. 173 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:30,040 So we're getting some glare from my window, but these are these 174 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:37,880 are collections of short stories from 1920 or all the way. 175 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,640 Is that when? Yeah, from all the way from like 176 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:47,640 the 1920s, 2019, 26. There's a durless story all the 177 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,280 way up to like 1980s. And they were pulled from Weird 178 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,200 Tales magazine. Which? 179 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,320 For those not in no, but Weird Tales was a magazine that 180 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,480 published weird fiction, Sword and sorcery. 181 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:11,160 Let's wear like HPL and Robert Howard, the guy who created 182 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,600 Conan. A lot of his stuff was published 183 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,440 in there. Theo Moore, probably. 184 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,640 Who? CL Moore like blackouts. 185 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,960 KISS and stuff. Yep, Yep. 186 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,400 I think there there's actually ACL Moore story in this first 187 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,600 volume if I remember correctly. Super underrated and blackouts. 188 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,000 KISS is so good. You know, I read that and I kind 189 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,400 of bounced off of it a little bit at the end, really. 190 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,600 So did I, yeah. At the end, yeah. 191 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,840 Didn't I send you? Didn't I send you like a, a, 192 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,840 like a book of CL Moore's, Yeah. Yeah, blackouts kiss. 193 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,360 Yeah, yeah, but it was others too, right? 194 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,800 It was like the the follow-ups and stuff. 195 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,880 I. Don't know if it was. 196 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,440 But anyway, these were these were brought to my attention 197 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:01,640 because I was watching a documentary about Clark Ashton 198 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,840 Smith. And while they were and when 199 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:10,040 they do these documentaries on people, there's always a scholar 200 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,680 or someone who's talking and in the background on the shelf 201 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,160 behind him, I saw these 4 spines and it's it just says weird 202 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,800 tales. And I could see that it was a 203 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,800 four part series. So I looked it up and I found 204 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,560 them. I eventually found them. 205 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,200 I had to get them piece meal but I got them all from eBay or 206 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,920 Abe's books for well under what the normal eBay price is. 207 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:37,000 Those spines, those spines look great too. 208 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,440 They're. Pretty sick, yeah. 209 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Oh man. Wow, very cool. 210 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,320 Those are those are also I'm a I'm a spine guy. 211 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,440 I literally I've so you know I have a problem already, right? 212 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Like I, I have a problem with stuff, but I will literally buy 213 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,960 a book twice just so I cannot read 1 and keep it perfect and 214 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,640 then have like a reader copy. So I'll get like a cheapo beat 215 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,080 up one to take with me to work and stuff and then I'll keep a, 216 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,240 a nice one on on the shelf. But also I, I, I also have been 217 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,440 getting a bunch of people into Warhammer. 218 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,120 So it's been nice to be able to just like give someone like kind 219 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,600 of the beat up copy and be like, hey, read it. 220 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,840 And if I don't get it back, it's whatever because. 221 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,240 Yeah. Now, when you read paperbacks, 222 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,840 do you break them in? Do you break the spines? 223 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,720 What, what, what? What is your paperback reading 224 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,520 process? Are you doggier? 225 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:31,200 Either of you I me, I read pretty quickly and I use 226 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,200 bookmarks. I've got a titanium bookmark 227 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,160 like that. Also double S as a bottle opener 228 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:44,880 and a Flathead screwdriver. That was I bought it years ago. 229 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,760 It was handmade by what is his name? 230 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,720 I can't remember a plant pocket tool. 231 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,720 Peter, I can't remember his name. 232 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:58,360 But anyway, I really like that because it it works as a letter 233 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,320 opener too. Not that we get a whole lot of 234 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,840 letters anymore, but still it's handy to have around. 235 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:09,080 But I use that as a bookmark or I'll use these long pieces of 236 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,200 braided rope that thrift made for me that I'll just use this 237 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,240 as a bookmark. My books tend to get messed up 238 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,320 and bent and scrunched up and stuff like that because I sleep 239 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,280 with them in bed next to me and I'll roll over on them so the 240 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,880 cover will get bent or whatever. So yeah. 241 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:34,680 You, Hunter. By the way, is Peter Atwood is 242 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,280 Planet Pocket Tool. Peter Atwood, That's what it 243 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,040 was. I can't remember his last name 244 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,560 for some reason. Now, hunter, are you a dog ear? 245 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:46,040 Are you a spine breaker? Are you a breaker inner? 246 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,080 You're all when people. Break the spine of their book. 247 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,560 I mean, you're a fucking monster. 248 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,520 Yeah, it hurts me. It hurts. 249 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:54,920 Me. No, I put a bookmark in like a 250 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,040 sane human being. I mean, I have definitely. 251 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,520 I mean I haven't dog eared the page since I was like 12 I think 252 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,280 A. Child. 253 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,600 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 254 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,240 I'm not. I'm not increasing the pages of 255 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,440 my book to remember where I'm at. 256 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,480 I can put piece of like, I'll put like an index card or like 257 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,560 whatever, you know. Yeah, so I have bookmarks and 258 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:16,840 stuff. What's cool is a lot of TRPG 259 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,440 products have like, like you get bookmarks or like the 260 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,040 publishers, like if you order from various places, like you'll 261 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,280 just get, you know, ratting A tatty bookmark or like whatever. 262 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,960 I think I use the Island Paranormal Society bookmark for 263 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,720 most things. Will Yost and and those guys, 264 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,400 they put out like a whole a whole stack of like bookmark 265 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,040 games and stuff. So I literally have like a stack 266 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,080 of them sitting around. But there is actually a way to 267 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,800 break in paperback books that I do for all of mine is like a 268 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,120 like a ritual almost to start big paperbacks. 269 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:50,400 But like, basically if you take a paperback, I mean, I'll do 270 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,040 with his hardback. But if you take a paperback and 271 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,280 you push the spine flat against the table and then like 1, like 272 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,320 1 to 3 pages at a time, like push down one side and hold it 273 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,840 down and then push down the other side and hold it down 274 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,640 while you keep the middle up like this. 275 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,840 And then do that like over and over again through the entire 276 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,120 book until you get to the middle. 277 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,640 It, it kind of like loosens up all the glue along the bottom. 278 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,760 And then you can literally like hold a book open like this as a 279 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:22,160 paperback back, but the spine stays like from like bending, 280 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,640 which is what causes it to crack. 281 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,560 So you can have it open as much as you want and it preserves the 282 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,640 spine and actually preserves the length of the book because it 283 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,680 adds more flexibility to the glue. 284 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,040 So it doesn't get like brittle. It's like shoes. 285 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,200 If you, if you wear shoes, the rubber will last forever. 286 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,480 But if you stick them and don't ever like use the rubber, 287 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,440 they'll, they'll break down. It's kind of like that. 288 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,480 So it actually extends the life of your book and makes a spine 289 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,480 look better. Just like shoes. 290 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:52,960 Yeah. So what did we talk about today? 291 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,680 What's going on with Space Penguin Inc? 292 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,400 So what's going on with Space Penguin Inc? 293 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,000 We're getting ready to go to Gen. 294 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,480 Con next week, which is exciting. 295 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,240 Always, always a good time. Get to go and catch up with a 296 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,680 bunch of people in the flesh and get to, we've got a couple of 297 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,640 meetings, we've got a pitch meeting, the going to the 298 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,040 enemies and stuff like that. So there's always, always fun 299 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:28,400 stuff to be had. Yeah, I'm doing my usual pack 300 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,480 Tuesday night for a trip Wednesday. 301 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,040 Whereas Debbie already has all of her stuff packed for the most 302 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,800 part and is like ready to go. Hell yeah. 303 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:42,040 So I'm going to throw a load of clothes in the washer and 304 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,080 probably my cat dad shirt so you could see this in the flesh. 305 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I'm going to Gen. 306 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,440 Con. Yes, exactly. 307 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,960 First Gen. Con for you. 308 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,400 It will be, it will be my first Gen. 309 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,720 Con, my second con ever, third con ever. 310 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,320 Very excited for for Gen. Con very excited to know that 311 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,320 people I know we're going to be there, which is going to be fun, 312 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,080 you know? Yeah. 313 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,720 I have some Gen. Con pro tips like if you'd want 314 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,440 me to share them. 1,000,000%, yeah. 315 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:12,720 Check the forecast and the forecast looks like it's going 316 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,000 to be in the 80s and fairly sunny. 317 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,480 So wherever you're staying, if you're within walking distance 318 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,240 of the Convention Center, plan for that. 319 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,599 There's a little bit of rain coming possibly on Thursday this 320 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:31,720 year, so plan for that. What else? 321 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,280 The food trucks are great places to eat. 322 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,520 Last year they moved the food trucks to behind the Convention 323 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,520 Center building in the big parking lot, which is really 324 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:49,160 nice because everything is there all around and you can and 325 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,680 there's multiple. So there'd be like multiple Taco 326 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,600 trucks and stuff like that, multiple burrito trucks, which 327 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,760 is really nice. That way if you're just like, I 328 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,440 just want a burrito right now, you could you could have your 329 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,760 pick of a couple. How are the vegan? 330 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,640 Options. As far as I know, pretty solid. 331 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,880 I've had friends who are vegan who go before who've gone before 332 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,040 and been able to do that. So you just have to check out 333 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:21,440 the Taco trucks as you go. But I I would expect in 2025 334 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,400 that there would be plenty of options for that. 335 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,840 So I'll bet there's Can you do falafel? 336 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,040 I mean, I guess it would depend, but I think most of the time. 337 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,680 Yeah, you could be able to do. Pretty vegetarian. 338 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,600 It should always be vegetarian actually, if I remember. 339 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,400 If I remember correctly, there was a falafel truck last year or 340 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,280 the year before that. Falafel is Indian food, right? 341 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,440 Yeah. Most Indian food is very vegan 342 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,360 friendly. Just they do a lot of like 343 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,520 creamy, a lot of creamy sauces. So I just avoid like. 344 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,320 I avoid those, yeah. Yeah, but otherwise for the most 345 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,920 part, like that's a really good option. 346 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,520 So like you said, I mean, it's also going to be in the middle 347 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,480 of a fucking city. So worst case scenario I just. 348 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,000 Yeah. Go somewhere, but I can imagine 349 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,920 it's probably pretty good. Falafel's Egyptian, actually. 350 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,640 So it's Africa. Interesting. 351 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,080 Yeah, look at that. We didn't even have to wait for 352 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,120 social media to point out that we were incorrect. 353 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,640 Hunter got this. I knew it wasn't Middle Easter. 354 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,440 I was like, is it isn't Mediterranean? 355 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,680 I don't know if it's Mediterranean though. 356 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,400 And I looked it up. So I did actually. 357 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,960 I did watch a thing talking about being Egyptian food like 358 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,480 yesterday actually. So no. 359 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,840 Well, I forgot. Re study What else about Gen. 360 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,400 Con? Common street food in the Middle 361 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,840 East, though. OK. 362 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:41,760 All right. Those if you drink soda, there's 363 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,840 soda cups are worth buying the soda cup and carrying around 364 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,880 with you all weekend. But definitely stay hydrated 365 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,080 because it will be kind of humid. 366 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,680 But there is and then there's plenty of really great 367 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,760 restaurants to eat that aren't the food trucks that are off 368 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,680 site. But just plan like 30 minutes if 369 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,400 you're, if you're going with a group of people, plan for like 370 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,120 an hour wait and things like that. 371 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:14,960 If you're all going together to do an event meal and things like 372 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,880 that because it's. The one thing that's happening 373 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,200 in town right now and like the whole infrastructure is geared 374 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,480 around there of Indianapolis downtown. 375 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,480 It's geared for those events and stuff like that. 376 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,360 But you got to factor in like when you can meet people and 377 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:34,240 where you can meet people and stuff like that. 378 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:42,400 But yeah, it's it's a good time. It's well, you know, it's like 379 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,320 PAX is the other show you've been to Ryan and it's like that 380 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:53,640 but with a lot more. I will suggest 1 booth that you 381 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,840 don't want to miss is the Chimera booth. 382 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:04,920 They're a brick and mortar store and they always come in with 383 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,720 loads of collectible card games. If you have ACCG problem or if 384 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,160 you were like into historical CC GS and things like that, I. 385 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,720 For for thank goodness got over my CCG problem because that 386 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,600 definitely I spent way too much money on meta Zoo and I'm very 387 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,640 glad they went under just so I could stop so. 388 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:26,320 Right. Yeah. 389 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,720 But they have, they have tons of like dead CCGs and stuff like 390 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,840 that. Logan Dean and I end up there at 391 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,240 least once or twice buying stuff that we don't need. 392 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,840 It's it's always, it's always a good time. 393 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,960 Logan's going to Gen. Con too, isn't he? 394 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,640 Yep. I'll have to, I'll have to grab 395 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,760 him because I, I've said a couple times on Blue Sky like, 396 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,040 hey, come on the show. And he's like, yes. 397 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,240 And then that is as far as it's gotten like two or three times. 398 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,800 So I got to hit him up again on Discord or something. 399 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,360 I'd be like, come talk about your game. 400 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,160 Yeah, I see cycles in the background there actually. 401 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:04,360 Yeah, yeah, it's right behind. Yeah, on the the spinner rack I 402 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:07,320 got I rotate it and whenever I remember, so it's like new shit 403 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,520 for the episode every time. Nice. 404 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,000 But what? Else Gen. 405 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,400 Con. Yeah. 406 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,280 It's just, to me, it's a really good time and a really good 407 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,160 place to be able to catch up with a bunch of people who I 408 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,200 don't get to see face to face but like once or twice a year. 409 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,800 So I'm definitely looking forward to going. 410 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,920 And then what else has Space Penguin been doing? 411 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,400 We have fulfilled survivors of the core wars. 412 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,960 We got those all out. Cool, and then we fulfilled 413 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,800 Ghost of Zoes on a Mountain and those are out. 414 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,880 So those will actually be released. 415 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,360 Those are actually part of our future monthly releases. 416 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,440 So you don't have to get them, Ryan unless you're already 417 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,720 grabbing them. Ryan Of course he's grabbing 418 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:02,600 them. And then we have our where'd he 419 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:02,880 go? I. 420 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,760 Don't know somewhere he can hear you though. 421 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,200 They do piles in the living room. 422 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,760 But yes I got Zoazana and I did get survivors of the core wars. 423 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,800 Cool. Very cool. 424 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,880 And we'll talk more in depth about those in future months 425 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,200 because those are actually, like I said, they'll be part of our 426 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,600 regular releases. And then what else we've been 427 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,280 doing some small fulfillments for some other folks. 428 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,440 Get ready to do a bunch more of those as time comes up. 429 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:45,320 And then yeah, X in Ferris, which is our new release for 430 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,160 this month. It's I got. 431 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,040 Lost in the mail? Apparently so. 432 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,960 Yes, Dan U USPS. It's being returned to me 433 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,640 though, so we'll get it sent back out to you. 434 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Some way, shape or form, we'll get it to you. 435 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:05,680 But it is calendar style, so it's meant to be flipped up and 436 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,960 you can track the pages as you go and then flip up style. 437 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,960 It's by Bo Ryan Crumb and Tyler Welch. 438 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,560 Tyler has previously done most muscular minis that we 439 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,440 published, which was a third party forbidden Psalm. 440 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,920 So a fourth party Mark Borg related ish. 441 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,800 Oh, there we go. Most muscular minis. 442 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,160 Hell yeah this. Check this one out too that I 443 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,640 got. Where'd you get that one from? 444 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,680 Is that one like one of from one of his convention exclusives? 445 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,480 Yeah, I snagged some other stuff from him. 446 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,480 Nice. And he just threw in one of 447 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,120 these and I was like, well, I have that already. 448 00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:48,200 And then I got it and I was like, well, not that version of. 449 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,360 It I don't have that covered. Yeah, but yeah, most muscular 450 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:55,880 minis we got the other most muscular minis we got because if 451 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,360 anyone's ever seen Tyler Welsh, she's a buff dude. 452 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:07,960 The Adventures Guide to exercise Iron gods so but yeah. 453 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,600 So ex and Ferris takes place aboard a ship. 454 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:20,280 It's the the tagline is like part of the ad ad copy that we 455 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:25,440 use is imagine if it's event horizon but on a ship. 456 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,400 So well, not a spaceship, but it but but it's on a boat and it's 457 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,000 got all the things that happened. 458 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,640 It's for liminal horror. It's the first official release 459 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:46,280 second party because it won the 2nd party jam and it's really, 460 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,840 really pretty. It's it's the unique flip style. 461 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,880 Like I said, I'm hoping people enjoy books that we do like this 462 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,880 like one we did previously was rim bound transmission. 463 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:03,840 It just it really when when Beau Ryan was working on that out the 464 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,520 outputs for me, he was making sure that if you flip it over on 465 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,040 the back, like the art actually makes sense. 466 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,640 It doesn't rotate itself back around. 467 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,200 So that's pretty, pretty neat. And I got to try out a new a new 468 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,680 ordering platform. I mean, we used to make Sam for 469 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,720 it, but I got to try out the calendar function and to see how 470 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,840 that works as far as page ordering, silly stuff that 471 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,440 doesn't make any sense to anybody else. 472 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,080 But I thought it was pretty intriguing for me. 473 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,600 I was like why is the last page of the PDF upside down? 474 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,000 And then I was like, ah, because it is. 475 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:50,520 There you go. So it makesam well, Mixon's 476 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,720 doing some new stuff too because they do POD and stuff now too, 477 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,240 but they have a calendar function for for doing this kind 478 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,800 of stuff. They have a calendar for doing 479 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,400 landscape format flip flip UPS. I don't know what the actual 480 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,200 term is, a calendar I guess is the easiest way to call it, but 481 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,800 but yeah. And so we use that one instead 482 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,960 of just the regular booklet that we normally do and I think it 483 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:21,200 came out really nice. I'm super it just, it just went 484 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,560 into distro and distro bought a shit ton of them right off. 485 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:32,960 So it's available worldwide very soon and you can pick it up. 486 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,000 You can pick it up at our store, of course. 487 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:41,480 Obviously the thing I really like is for each of the deck, 488 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,520 it's got each deck of the ship, it's got the full map so you can 489 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,240 see the whole thing, which is really great for me as a person 490 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,840 who enjoys drawing out like maps when I play. 491 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,280 Like I get like a blank dry erase board and just drop a map. 492 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,400 Just instead of having players do it, I do it just because I 493 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:09,160 already can see the map and there are 4 decks in this boat. 494 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:24,480 Check 2-3 or no, there's 5 S and they're and the way they've done 495 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,240 it is they've actually highlighted that section so you 496 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,360 know that those are the sections that are on there as opposed to 497 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:37,240 if you flip back the page, you can see more of the more of that 498 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,280 ship section is just right there on that page. 499 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,800 So in in a game like Liminal Horror where you're going to be 500 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,320 running up and down the stairs, like especially on something 501 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,080 like a ship, it helps you get orientated. 502 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,440 The person running, running the game, the facilitator, it helps 503 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:59,280 you get orientated correctly rather quickly in case of 504 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,240 massive fleeing, which in a game like Liminal horror there you're 505 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,400 going to run into a lot. That's really. 506 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,120 Cool. Yeah, it's not only because it's 507 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,240 not even just like the big picture. 508 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,440 There's like a little boat too to give you like the the area, 509 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,360 not the top down from but the side too, and that is super. 510 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,640 That is really freaking neat. It definitely kind of reminds me 511 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:27,640 of a little bit of the rock Black Rock black sludge Mark 512 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,520 Borg where they like highlight or show like individual room at 513 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,040 a time on the page that it matters to. 514 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,160 That's such a great thing to put in into adventures. 515 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,040 I mean, it's a gorgeous looking Zine too. 516 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,680 I think the sideways format, especially for for this because 517 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,840 there's a lot of tables in it. It really let's the tables 518 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,080 breathe a little bit and give you like each number kind of 519 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,720 without like, you know, maybe this number has like 3 lines and 520 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,360 this number has one and this number has two. 521 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,440 Like it really let's it breathe and it just, it looks really, 522 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,600 really nice. Yeah, that's it's, it's a fun, 523 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,280 it's a fun form factor and I'm interested in doing more. 524 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,760 And then just the cover itself is just killer like that. 525 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,000 The boat, the boat with the clouds in the sky, like as a 526 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,200 person who lives in a land of boats down here, like it's 527 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,280 definitely, it's just a killer cover. 528 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,560 Yeah, it's fantastic. Really enjoy it. 529 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,280 Very cool. Yeah, Yeah, like I said, I 530 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,840 didn't. I would love to try to find the 531 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:32,280 original 1, but I'll have to. Maybe I'll have to reach out to 532 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,760 Josh or or Tyler, see if there's any floating around anywhere. 533 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,200 They did a small print run for the for the first run. 534 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,080 Think they did, or maybe I just need the original PDF, which I 535 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,920 don't think would be hard just so I could see the differences. 536 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440 But I feel like maybe they did or maybe I'm just completely 537 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,240 making that shit out. But if they did, you know, yeah, 538 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,240 misinformation here on the show, that's our that's our whole 539 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,480 goal, right? Right now, we're cat dads. 540 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,440 We got to get political, you know, so we. 541 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,400 Got to get political. Yeah, yeah. 542 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,560 So that's X in Ferris. And I mean, and this is, this is 543 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,680 obviously a Luminal Horror, and Luminal Horror Deluxe is still 544 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,240 cooking. Yes, those parts of that are 545 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:23,040 starting to come through the case files. 01 Zine is has 546 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:29,320 landed on my desk for me to look at goblin archives this morning 547 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,360 shared with me that he's just now he finished running Einflung 548 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:40,200 which is it was a stretch goal added to. 549 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,000 I don't remember if we hit the stretch goal for physical 550 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,880 Einflung, but there will be physical Einflung available. 551 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,600 Like to add on as an add on. That's such a great way to do 552 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,000 the things that like don't quite get to the stretch goal, like 553 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,400 being able to still do it by just like having you pay for it 554 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,200 later when you could have just got it if you if you backed more 555 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,440 earlier, but like it's, it's great that it's still options 556 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:08,640 so. So those two are coming along. 557 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,840 And then the main book itself, we've got samples, which I don't 558 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,360 know. I no longer have the samples. 559 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,960 Did I show them off last month's episode? 560 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,360 I don't know if we did. I'm not. 561 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,440 Sure. So I ordered hardcover samples 562 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,160 and samples of the Zenes because we're of course reprinting the 563 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,640 Zenes to go along with because those were available in the 564 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:35,760 different packs as pledge tiers. But I've already sent those on 565 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,400 to to Zach and Josh because they're doing they're working on 566 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,000 the interiors and the cover respectively. 567 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:49,680 So unfortunately, no fancy version of liminal horror might 568 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:55,320 get AI might get a sample of the cloth bound foil one. 569 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,800 If if that's if that's possible to do for my printer to do in 570 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,000 time. It should be get that closer to 571 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,560 time when we go to print just so we can make sure that all the 572 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:13,400 trappings good on the cover. Made for you as a publisher of 573 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,280 cool shit. When you look at a book, let me 574 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:23,480 just grab a random book. I'll do I'll do this backwards. 575 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,280 Right when you center on the book, say you have like a box in 576 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,280 the middle of the book. Do you center from the edge or 577 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,960 do you center from the edge of like where the the binding stops 578 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,520 and then goes forward? I've seen it done both ways. 579 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,160 I'm seeing that's 1000 year old vampire, right? 580 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,560 Yeah. So it's got like a fake thing. 581 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,720 I'm trying to find one that's just like a plain book that I 582 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,280 can just show from the back just to get just to get your thoughts 583 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,920 on it. But what's your preference, if 584 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,280 you may, when you're making a book? 585 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,840 Well, TYOV has that set up. Where it's around, it's got 586 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,199 that, I don't know what it's called technically in the world 587 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,600 of book binding, but it's it's meant to look like an old 588 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,840 textbook, right? And so then they have that panel 589 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,600 on the back that where you put your marketing copy and things 590 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,520 like that and your barcodes and stuff like that. 591 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,360 So that makes sense for that one since it's centered over to go 592 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:34,000 ahead and be centered over. But usually you, I personally 593 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,920 like me personally, I like it to be centered for the whole cover 594 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,360 or not and and not have the spine Ridge be offset, if that 595 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,280 makes sense. It just, it really just depends 596 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,639 on the product though. Yeah, I've seen it done. 597 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,760 I've seen it done both ways, and sometimes it works and sometimes 598 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,560 it doesn't. Like I don't want to grab one 599 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,080 and be like, see, I don't like this and like hold up a book. 600 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,680 I feel like that's being mean. But like I completely agree with 601 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,640 you, I think I think if so, this is like a fake part, but I think 602 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,200 if like this gets colored completely. 603 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,400 So this is one color. Like it's kind of better if it 604 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,880 centers, but I do like it when it's completely centered in the 605 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,960 middle of the entire book instead of just on like the the 606 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,360 front part. So I'm curious, Well, I guess 607 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,040 the question is like you have that dope like part of the cloth 608 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,360 cover, is that going to be center center? 609 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,880 Is it going to be centered off from the from the edge? 610 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:35,080 What Zach does with it. So we'll, we'll probably send it 611 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:40,160 in, however he does it first glance and then get the proof 612 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,000 copy of it and then decide based on that whether he wants to 613 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000 tweak it over. I know he's worked on tweaking 614 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,480 over some of the regular cover for LHD EE and he's changing 615 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,440 that up just a little bit to make it look a little bit more 616 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,240 set. So, but that is that thing's 617 00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:00,920 going to be a big heavy boy. It's going to be like 400 and 618 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,000 something pages at a 6 by 9 size. 619 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,880 So it's going to weigh like we're getting ready to launch 620 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,600 our pledge manager for that the week after I get back from Gen. 621 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,520 Con. And it's going to be so heavy 622 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,240 that it's going to kick it up to some shipping levels. 623 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,680 So I really hate that, but it is what it is. 624 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,840 So shipping, shipping prices have gone through the roof from 625 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,240 a publisher side for a retail side. 626 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,760 I know to for us to ship books overseas right now to the UK 627 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,080 prices are crazy high. So and can't do anything about 628 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,240 it. Like that's just the prices of 629 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,360 what it costs to ship so. Yeah, it's just getting longer 630 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,680 and harder and harder. Yeah. 631 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,240 I mean, people are eventually just going to like 632 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,560 sustainability wise, have to have like presses on each 633 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,360 freaking continent just so they're not having to ship it 634 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,640 across the ocean, which is crazy whenever you're getting a Space 635 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:06,440 Penguin Inc Europe office. When you clone me and move me to 636 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,840 Europe. Well, just have will start a 637 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,920 whole space Penguin Inc start up over there and we'll have. 638 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,040 For Will has the forbidden Psalm store where you can get all the 639 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,120 forbidden Psalm stuff and you can get a bunch of if you get a 640 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,960 bunch of stuff that you can't get from us that are like 641 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,400 different covers and things like that that he's done for 642 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,520 different conventions and some other zenes and stuff like that. 643 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,560 So. I grabbed the the will version 644 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,840 fucked up edition that he just fucked up like crazy and like 645 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,720 wrote in and did a whole bunch of like oh, I flipped right to 646 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,000 the page. I wanted to put poo in the book 647 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,040 and use like puffy use like puffy paint. 648 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,600 So it actually feels. I mean, as someone who's dealt 649 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,720 with more poo than the average person, it's pooey. 650 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,160 But but yeah, I had to pay that UK shipping and get like a 651 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,040 fucked up version of forbidden Psalms and that's a beefier boy 652 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,720 over there. So yeah, had to get had to add 653 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:10,440 that in going to Gin Con. We got all this stuff coming. 654 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,520 Anything else currently brewing before we before we wrap for the 655 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,600 month? Not nothing really that I can 656 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,240 talk about just yet. We're getting into some meetings 657 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:24,280 with some folks for some different books and stuff like 658 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,240 that. There's going to be some 659 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:28,360 meetings that Gen. Con and some other things like 660 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,040 that. And so right now we're just, 661 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,120 we're focusing on keeping our monthly release schedule, which 662 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:39,520 we skipped August for the first time in 2 1/2 or the real pretty 663 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,080 much three years that we've been working with ACD. 664 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:51,960 And it's, it's nice to not be on a deadline for one month after X 665 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,920 amount of time, but I do kind of miss not having it. 666 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,000 So we'll be able to skip August if you guys want to. 667 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,160 I was. Just going to say, do you, I 668 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,600 mean, of course I don't like where we'd love to have you on. 669 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,840 Maybe what what if we did something different on a Jared 670 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,800 episode and we like ran a game or like played something else or 671 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,040 like did a kind of alternate, you know, not cat chats episode. 672 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,400 How are you doing? How what we do we do we want to 673 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,640 talk about that, maybe figure something out? 674 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,400 Yeah, we'd talk behind the scenes about that and figure 675 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,880 that out. That would be pretty fun. 676 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:23,920 That'd be sick. Yeah. 677 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,120 Because we don't need to worry about. 678 00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:26,480 Yeah, we'll, we'll figure something out. 679 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,520 Like I said, we'll run the game or we'll we'll play something or 680 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,520 we'll, we'll get together and do some tabletop something or, or 681 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,080 something cool. It's. 682 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,040 But yeah. Well, then that that because 683 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,640 Hunter does have to scoot out for work. 684 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,400 That's why he's scarfing down food. 685 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,320 That's why that would be. Lone archivist in the chat, by 686 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,920 the way, says a sumo one shot. I'm working on something. 687 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:53,800 Maybe someone will see it one day, but that's gonna be us for 688 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,480 the month. Next time I see you, jerk, will 689 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,280 be what? Maybe Thursday, Wednesday. 690 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,040 Wednesday. Thursday. 691 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,720 Wednesday, Thursday or Friday we're we're getting in afternoon 692 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:06,640 time Wednesday and gonna see and just play it by air and see how 693 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,720 it goes to meet up with the Hobo Nomicon gang at some point and 694 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,560 woo Hoo. All the usual droogies and stuff 695 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,160 like that. Sick. 696 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,040 I'm debating if I want to take a couple of books to try to get 697 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,160 some people to sign just because I'm a freak like that, but we'll 698 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:27,800 see. But my brain had something to 699 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,080 say and then totally blanked on it, so it's just going to die in 700 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,360 the ether. We will see all of you next 701 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,680 time. Oh, I was thinking about maybe 702 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,240 maybe chatting with some people a little bit during Gen. 703 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:41,840 Con and trying to stuff together maybe a short episode of talking 704 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,320 to some people, including jerk. So maybe, maybe you guys will 705 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,280 hear slash see some some random stuff. 706 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,400 I doubt it, but one can open dream, right? 707 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,160 But jerk, I will see you sooner that I'll ever see hunter and 708 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,360 and you catch us all next month for something that is not cat 709 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,840 chats, but not not cat chats. And we'll catch you next time. 710 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:01,880 Bye everybody. Bye everybody. 711 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:03,640 Thanks for having me.