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Hello and welcome to the Weekly 
Scroll podcast. 

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My Name Is Ryan. 
And I used to have a beard. 

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Oh, my turn. 
I'm Jarrett. 

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See, I thought, Hunter, I 
thought you were going to say 

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your name because you're just 
going by. 

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I used to have. 
Never done that. 

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You never said to me and that's 
that's. 

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Like, no, no. 
He said it like twice. 

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We've done like 180 episodes 
total across everything. 

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And he's never he said his name 
twice, I think. 

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Now I know the secret. 
Well, I'm Jarrett Creator from 

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Space Penguin, Inc. 
Space Penguin Inc. 

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So this is not Cat Chats episode
four. 

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I think we said it was. 
So those that aren't in the 

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know, Jerk edits everything. 
Most indie games you have in the

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shuffle probably have his name 
in it. 

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And Jerk comes on every month to
chat about Space Penguin Inc new

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releases. 
I think today we're going to 

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talk about a couple other like 
different things that we've 

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talked about in the past couple 
episodes. 

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But but yeah, new releases. 
I got some right here. 

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I got more that I think are 
going to show up on my doorstep 

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today. 
But starting it off? 

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Jerk. 
First of all, you'll never walk 

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alone. 
Second. 

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Kiss the badge. 
Get it? 

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We'll miss you. 
Club. 

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How you doing? 
How's it going? 

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What's up? 
I'm. 

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Doing well. 
I'm doing well. 

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Thank you for having me on. 
As always, we are. 

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I'll give you an update. 
I'm waiting on, as you both 

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know, waiting on a pallet of 
some Rune Cairn Warden Saga 

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coming in this afternoon from 
jolly old England. 

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Oh, shoot. 
Ryan has a copy. 

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Does he have a copy? 
There we go. 

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Yeah. 
This is, do I have this copy? 

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Right. 
This is the this is the new 

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addition that Colin Lesour just 
put out. 

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And yeah, this is we're handling
fulfillment for those following 

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along. 
We're handling fulfillment for a

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couple of smaller companies, 
some friends of ours. 

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Some Kickstarter projects and 
stuff like that and Colin 

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approached us back before ZQ 
Zeen month whichever one it was 

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this year and well, they they 
they get things get pretty 

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blurry for me, like I'm heads 
down with in a lot of stuff and 

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then all of a sudden I'm like, 
oh shit, it's February, there's 

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stuff going on. 
But yeah, Colin purchased 

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because it's going to be less 
expensive, you know, more 

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palatable for him to pallet a 
pile of books over here and then

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we crack that and then we 
repackage and we send them out 

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so that we can hopefully because
I haven't seen the the numbers 

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on that. 
I've seen the backer numbers, 

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but I haven't looked at like how
much he's charging. 

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But making sure that you know we
can work it out with other 

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fulfillment folks and other 
publishers that we're actually 

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you know got stuff coming in 
Sorry I'm looking I'm hearing 

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people talk outside and it's not
it's not the people with the 

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palate but you'll be here soon 
be like a. 

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Suspicious person in the 
neighborhood who's always like 

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looking at their blinds. 
Oh, I am. 

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I am that little old lady 
because I'm here and I work and 

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it faces the street. 
And yeah, it's I'm just, I'm 

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here all day, every day. 
And I'm like, who's talking? 

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I know people's, I know who's 
opening the mailboxes because 

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the mailboxes are right by my 
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I know it by the by the way they
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like walking and stuff. 
So it's what happens. 

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And you've been here for like 4 
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constantly in this chair, I 
swear. 

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I I've lived in my apartment for
two years and I've never even 

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spoken to any of my neighbors. 
I've spoken to all of the 

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neighbors. 
So, yeah, well, you're a you're 

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a charismatic boy. 
The couple The couple next to me

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has a really cool Shar Pei. 
Which I think's cute. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. 
So what? 

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So I have. 
I have a stack of stuff here. 

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I don't know if and when we want
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do I have last month's releases.
Here with. 

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Resonance First of all I love 
this cover by the way the Mark 

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ball do. 
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They think it's all over the AT 
the Mutants of Madness MCC. 

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But I also have this like this 
nice box right here. 

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What is there a pile of stuff 
inside there. 

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What is what is this Oh. 
The curse of the tokens, The 

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token cursive tokens. 
The The A War band book. 

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What a map, a collection. 
A collection of death. 

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This is fantastic. 
By the way. 

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I did not. 
I mean I knew there I have all 

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of these. 
But when you actually stack them

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up and have a a perfect bound 
that's like 160 pages, it gets 

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crazy. 
And then we got this, this, that

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right there. 
Look at that spine on that. 

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For those in podcast world, what
I just did was unbox the in 

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times forbidden Psalm box. 
I love the that forbidden some 

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end times on the edge of of the 
new hardback. 

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It's absolutely fantastic. 
And same thing with the 

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collection of death. 
So those came out extraordinary.

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Very excited to have these in 
hand and to to cut out all my 

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tokens. 
Yeah, excellent. 

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I have for for people wondering 
what for people watching or I'm 

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going to see it, these little, 
these little Clippers you can 

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get yourself I believe, Will 
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A A1 inch works pretty well. 
And is that drilling coming 

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through? 
Nope. 

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No. 
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There's, there's. 
Drilling outside now we're 

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we're, we're we're still in, 
we're still in hurricane repair 

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mode from Hurricane Ian which 
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It's going. 
It's almost two years now, yeah.

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So the dudes are out there 
repairing all of the safety 

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rails because there are so a 
level above us. 

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So they're all, yeah, it's 
safety last, safety last. 

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I'd never thought I'd get to 
make that joke. 

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There we go. 
I want, but anyway, these these 

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right? 
These little Clippers are pretty

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cool because you trim your sheet
out and then you slide it in 

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there and you just punch and 
then it collects in in the 

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bottom of it. 
Now you want to do them one to 

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one to make sure you're lining 
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But that little cutter, you 
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camera and it's going to get mad
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You can't really see it. 
But anyway, it punches them out 

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nicely and then you can put them
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minis, or you can put them on 
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If you want something a little 
weightier, the story of those 

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tokens is elucidated. 
And that that Zine that you just

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opened right there. 
Beautiful. 

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There's the tokens we wanted. 
We wanted activation tokens and 

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we really wanted them to because
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Now if you're playing a solo 
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you've activated and you know 
which ones are dead and diseased

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and you know which ones are you 
know obviously feeling the heat.

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But when you're playing a couple
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of monsters out there, you want 
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which ones activate. 
So we found a company out of 

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Saint Louis that was like yeah, 
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on board and we were so ready 
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For the punch out that was 
supposed to punch these things 

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so that when the person at home 
got them, they could just punch 

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out these little tokens. 
They were going to be nice 

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laminated paper like a couple 
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So it's going to be you know 
have a little heft to it so you 

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can put it underneath a little 
easier for your fingers to pick 

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up the dye on the on that the 
custom dye that we'll designed 

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broke their machine. 
Of course like the power of the 

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forbidden Psalm it, it broke the
machine and then we started 

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running up against delays in 
time of getting it turned around

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and getting it sent out to our 
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And that's the last thing you 
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Kickstarter from your brand new 
company. 

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So what we did was Will 
overnight created the fault of 

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the Mad Wizard and actually made
a scenario about how big 

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business was destroying the 
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them. 
So that's one of the scenarios 

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in there. 
And people are just like, Oh 

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yeah, that's awesome. 
So turn that around. 

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Will Rd. created laid out design
of that in a night. 

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I edited it over the next day. 
We sent it off to get printed. 

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It got printed. 
We printed out paper versions of

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the tokens that Ryan was holding
up and then shipped those all 

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packed those out. 
My lovely partner Debbie and I, 

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she did majority of it just like
literally 99% of it and I did 

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1%. 
I I'm the tape guy. 

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I'm the finisher. 
I fold the boxes and but in the 

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before that she has like stamped
our logo and whichever product 

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logo like you'll notice like 
Ryan as you get different 

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packages and hunters, you get 
different packages. 

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Some of the boxes have like 
different, yeah, different bits 

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and different stuff that would 
have ready, right? 

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They'll have a forbidden song 
logo. 

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Forbidden Song, trust me, I 
notice, I notice I actually save

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a lot of the box lids and stuff 
with punches with the stuff on 

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them. 
Yeah, cool. 

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She's pretty. 
I'm a psycho where I not only do

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I have to have extras of 
everything, I'll save the box it

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comes in. 
Well, she hand stamps every 

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single one of those. 
So like not not only are the 

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books collectible, but yeah I 
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I think from a Thomas Navaso 
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I think I I want to say that I 
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drawing or something like that's
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On my wall are bits and pieces 
of stuff that people have sent 

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me in the mail and like. 
And I I love that sort of just 

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little ephemera stuff that you 
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a piece of paper, whatever, you 
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What I just showed is every time
you get something from Jim 

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Zilla, the creator of Sist, they
they will they they draw on the 

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entire envelope or the entire 
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So I just save all. 
That's so good. 

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Very cool. 
So good. 

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So yeah, I mean the the like you
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problem is great. 
I am just not going to fuck with

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circles and I'm just going to 
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and not worry about it. 
But the solution was fantastic. 

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I mean obviously that's not a 
it's not great to happen, 

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especially for the first 
Kickstarter that kind of sucks. 

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But I I, you know, I think a lot
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Obviously you know what you're 
doing and getting it in people's

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hands and keeping people 
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you're doing the monthly stuff, 
is incredibly important. 

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I'd much rather have an extra 
scene with a cool new scenario 

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that, you know, pokes fun at the
the issue at hand. 

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Then wait. 
How long would it have been if 

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you were? 
Probably in another three 

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months. 
But I'm going to pause this 

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because that palette arrived. 
So we're going to dude, I will, 

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I will be right back. 
Look at that BR. 

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BBRB and we're back pallet 
pallet break is over. 

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That was quick. 
That was a quick pallet 

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breaking. 
It was. 

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Luckily it was half so. 
It was at like full and big and 

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I believe Colin packed this 
himself because it had a lot of,

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because it was. 
There's other parts to it, like 

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not just the Warden Saga 2B 
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there's some patches and some 
other stuff in there. 

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But yeah, no, we have a pretty 
good system down here as far as 

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the storage space, Ryan, I think
I sent you some pictures of 

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those of of that earlier. 
And you can it. 

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Did so. 
People can see this is this is 

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what it's like living in a 
warehouse, so. 

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I'll throw up picture one here. 
So what are we looking at here 

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with picture one? 
It's the the well you numbered 

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them. 
Did. 

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Let's see, picture number one, 
that's that's a bunch of Marco 

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stuff. 
Is it the one that has Glimshire

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in it and some sampled 
strangers? 

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It's it's a bunch of boxes and 
then some like white unfolded 

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boxes. 
Yeah, So that's yeah, so that's 

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all outsourced underneath that 
which is Marco at Spicy Tuna 

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RPG. 
Those are actually in progress 

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in process right now. 
We've taken a couple of loads to

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USPS. 
We're running another load to 

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USPS tomorrow and FedEx. 
We were what we did with for 

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ensembles. 
We did all of the international 

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orders that we were responsible 
for and rest of the world stuff 

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first so that we could get out 
of the way all of the painful 

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multiple copies of customs 
documents and plastic envelopes 

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and everything And then we did 
all the US so it was it went it 

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just goes a lot faster because 
all of the forbidden some stuff 

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could go media mail because it 
was all printed material. 

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It was there was no patches. 
There was no anything like that 

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with outsourced. 
There's patches and the last 

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thing we want to do is run a 
file with customs, because my 

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name and the company name is on 
every single one of those 

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packages. 
So if we start getting tagged by

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customs in one country, they're 
going to tag every single 

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package like that that comes 
through that, says Space Penguin

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Inc. 
And they're going to. 

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It's just going to take that 
much longer until backers get 

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them. 
So we make sure that you know 

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obviously we're using software, 
we're using Easy ship which is a

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great software shout out to 
anybody who works at Easy Ship 

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who might be watching or 
listening. 

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Great customer service there too
by the way. 

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But so we did a run with 
Outsource. 

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We did a run of the US ones just
to see what we were looking at. 

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And then the next day we did 
kind of a mixed bag and then we 

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were just like OK, so we're 
going to go back to finishing up

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the US one so that we can get 
those out because there's it's 

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it's just a little tiny bit more
intricate. 

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It's not even it's it's it's 
silly software buttons that you 

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have to press and stuff like 
that. 

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But we want to make sure that 
we're getting everything to 

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everyone in the right order and 
we're not having to re pick and 

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miss pick like I think total for
forbidden PS which was almost 

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2000 backers counting backer kit
and everything. 

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I think we've had less than 10 
Miss picks total, which is some 

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legendary shit like between Will
pushing out all of the EU and UK

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orders and then us pushing out 
US and RW. 

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You know, if we had took care of
Canada, we took care of 

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Australia, Singapore, you know, 
Southeast Asia and stuff like 

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that, that's obviously that. 
There's still time for people to

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be like, Oh, my box arrived and 
it looks like someone stabbed a 

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sword through it, you know, 
shout out to Matt Bovey and the 

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New Caledonia treatment. 
If Matt's listening, he'll know 

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what I'm talking about. 
That's new Caledonia treatments 

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where you stab a book through 
the box. 

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We once, when I worked at 
exalted funeral, we once had a 

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customer say that their box came
intact, but the book, like the 

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hardcover of the book, looked 
like it had a machete stab right

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in the in the cover of it. 
And they sent us pictures, and 

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they sent us pictures of the 
box. 

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So my guess is what happened was
Customs was inspecting it and 

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Customs went in hard and put it 
in a different box. 

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Although we couldn't, we 
couldn't quite tell. 

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Right. 
So not again, not not going out 

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Customs. 
But how? 

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How else does a book get a big 
stab wound in it inside a box? 

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Unless you stab it. 
Unless you stab it. 

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Like, yeah, gotta, gotta, gotta 
find that cocaine. 

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You know you stab with the with 
the. 

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With the with. 
Your switchblade and then sniff 

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it a little off the that's it's 
a thing, right? 

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No people do. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So anyway, so that's where we're
at with Outsource. 

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So that was picture number one. 
You got other pictures there? 

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I do. 
I do. 

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Let's go with picture #2 here. 
That's a nice, that's a nice, 

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some nice, some nice flags and. 
Those are. 

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That's all forbidden Psalm 
stuff. 

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That is those. 
So those were. 

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It was double that. 
It was actually. 

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Most of the Liverpool flag was 
covered. 

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And then the bigger boxes, the 
bigger stacks are Dread Knights,

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Dread Knights. 
It's it's a great Gothic war 

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skirmish miniatures game. 
Buy multiple copies of Dread 

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Knights, everybody. 
No, that was that was us 

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ordering a lot of hardcover 
copies when we started out and 

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not knowing how to adjust 
quantities and stuff like there 

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we go, Look at that. 
All the dread. 

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Knights. 
Yes, exactly. 

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That's my dude, right? 
There it's. 

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Why It's why we do these 
episodes. 

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Because Ryan's your favorite 
customer. 

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That's I. 
Mean Ryan, when you are like, 

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it's great Big when I put up new
releases because it's like, I 

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was like, Ryan's going to be 
Ryan's going to be first. 

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And like Debbie, Debbie hasn't 
met you guys yet. 

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She will at some point. 
But she's like, oh, it looks 

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like he ordered again. 
And I was like, Yep, sure did 

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so. 
Always will. 

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I feel like I frequently the 
like. 

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The second stuff drops like I've
got to be one of the first 

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customers every time. 
It's awesome. 

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I super appreciate that. 
Like, that's why we do this, is 

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to get cool weird shit into 
people's hands so that they can 

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enjoy it and read it and and 
just do or do whatever with it. 

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But you know, like. 
Like. 

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Why? 
What? 

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Wow. 
Anyway, so yes, so that picture.

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We have you on that's that's why
we have you on is because you 

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make awesome weird shit that we 
love. 

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Like I wouldn't have someone on 
every month that just made like 

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mediocre bullshit. 
Like we we we we set up a time 

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and both of us look forward to 
it every month to have you on so

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we can talk and you know we we 
chat all through the month on 

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Discord and everything is 
because the stuff that you make 

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is fantastic space fingers 
fantastic. 

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Your like the way that you do 
everything the way you're 

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running your business is, is how
I think the whole industry 

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should be. 
You know and a lot of it isn't 

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which is unfortunate. 
So you know when, when you can, 

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you know have one of those kind 
of meet your heroes and become 

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friends with them things that's 
really, it's really fantastic 

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and that's what that's kind of 
what we have here and why we got

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not cat chats. 
So catch hats. 

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Catch hats, Catch hats. 
I no, I I did see. 

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I did. 
I did notice in the e-mail that 

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you just wrote catch hats, Not 
not catch hats. 

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I'd just say I noticed that and 
also. 

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Also in that picture is yes is 
is my Liverpool flag, which we 

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discovered today. 
Ryan and I have a shared love of

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Liverpool Football Club, which 
is why I'm wearing the 2019 

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Champions League Champions kit. 
Yeah, it's good. 

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It's going to be a weird, weird 
time. 

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So you're going to clock came on
right before Debbie and I met 

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and as, as you know, fans of 
whatever, whether it's RPGs or 

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sports teams or music or 
whatever, you know when you when

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you're passionate about 
something, you're passionate 

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about something. 
I mean, you've got a tattoo Y 

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and WA here and I've got the 
Crest. 

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Tattooed on my chest. 
I love these guys. 

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So Debbie has lived through me 
and she's a college basketball 

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fan. 
She's a she loves college 

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basketball, KU at heart, but 
just loves college basketball 

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and just watched. 
I watched a bunch of it, but 

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it's going to be weird because 
the outgoing manager Jurgen 

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Klopp managed started like right
before Debbie and I met. 

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So it's going to be a new epoch.
It's a we're going into our 

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eighth year of of relationship 
and we get a new manager for 

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Liverpool and I'm not. 
I don't know what to do. 

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There's going to be some crying.
There's going to be some crying.

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I've watched a soccer game 
before. 

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I I'm not going to, I'm not 
going to go dig through my box 

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of jerseys. 
The closest thing I have right 

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now is I got all of the since 
you got the 2019, I decided to 

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get every patch, the Champions 
League winners patch, right? 

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The the six trophy patch. 
Hell yeah, all the Champions 

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League stuff. 
That's. 

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Right people, right. 
Doesn't only have a problem with

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the collecting tabletop stuff, 
it's anything. 

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So. 
Yeah, Club World Cup winners 

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right there. 
Yeah, well, the the, yeah, the 

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the Club World Cup and then all 
of the the rest of the patches 

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we had for every patch we we won
something with in 2019. 

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So I can eventually put it on 
put it on something. 

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I I find myself wanting to put 
some of my extra patches on 

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sashes. 
Like like the the scouts used to

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get, you know, like, right, 
Yeah. 

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And like, I 'cause I have a 
bunch of patches from obviously 

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books I've worked on and and 
friends projects and stuff like 

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that, that I get. 
And then I just, I get weird 

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ones. 
Like, I'm a huge fan of most 

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Universal monsters. 
That stuff was just iconic to me

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when I was a kid. 
And so I've got this one of the 

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Creature from the Black Lagoon, 
and it's it's literally a 4 by 6

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patch. 
It's huge and it's all 

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beautifully and birded. 
We picked it up somewhere when 

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we were in Miami on a trip a 
couple years ago. 

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There was a great patch shop 
that just sold patches and it 

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was just like so much good. 
And then I've got a bunch from 

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when we were over in the UK last
year. 

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We went by a couple of 
embroidery shops in Camden Town 

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and just got written stuff. 
So yeah, I'm right there with 

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you with the patch, with the 
patch problem. 

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I'm a patch and pen guy. 
I have a giant coffin shaped pen

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board for all of my enamel pens.
But yeah, all so mother shit, 

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that's a good. 
Idea I should have a container, 

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you know. 
Yeah, a container for you, but 

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you have to display them. 
I know you're right. 

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I for my Pat, my patches and my 
pins, they're all in this, like 

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in my art box, you know, with 
all my art stuff, so. 

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I have a separate, separate bag.
It's actually the mothership bag

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that they can't, that they sent 
the pamphlets in. 

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I don't know if you know, I'm 
talking about that little warden

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bag. 
It's actually like right there. 

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It has every patch from all the 
mothership stuff. 

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I kind of want to get that night
school thing behind you. 

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How? 
It's kind of like a cloth on 

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like A roll. 
I want to get a giant empty one 

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of those and just put all the 
mothership patches like along. 

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Nice. 
Yeah that's actually that's 

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actually just a it's a poster 
print that Dye made for the GMBK

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books. 
So it's a it's a cool. 

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It looks it's a it's two pieces 
of board and they've got magnets

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on the top and on the bottom so 
there's a little bit of weight. 

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So it's it's like a frame free 
poster frame I believe is what 

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they call them. 
So that's. 

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Awesome. 
I love them, yeah. 

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So this, this is what I'm 
talking about. 

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I don't know if you saw this at 
their store before. 

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Oh, I did. 
But they copied that off to the 

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one that we designed for 
Stella's Rimbound transmissions.

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They did. 
They they they they made them 

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fancier. 
They made them like Sean made 

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them like actually got them 
done, like with the bank bag, 

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the ones that we. 
Oh, you mean this one? 

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That one, yeah, yeah, yeah, 
yeah. 

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So that's what happens when you 
don't know when you don't know, 

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when Jared doesn't know what 
he's doing and he's working with

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Justin and Justin's. 
Like, I think we could do it 

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this way. 
And then, oh, if we redid those,

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we would put it. 
There you go. 

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There's a bunch of them. 
You got some that I don't have? 

446
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Oh, I got 5 users I don't have. 
Right? 

447
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Send me. 
Send me your double S, man. 

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Send me your double S. 
They're like ball cards. 

449
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Gotta love Alfred Valley. 
I got, I got double UPS. 

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Yeah, I will put one of those 
aside. 

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Let me get that. 
Gosh, what were you been 

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talking? 
About Oh yeah, we were looking 

453
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,440
at the pictures, the. 
Pictures all right. 

454
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,520
And then you so. 
I doubled up three and four 

455
00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:00,080
because they were, yeah. 
So 3 is, is the is all of the 

456
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,200
racks. 
Those are all those are Debbie's

457
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,920
speed racks. 
So Eagle, like Eagle, like 

458
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,240
viewers are people who are just 
leaning in really close. 

459
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,160
We'll see. 
Like a lot of those are boxes 

460
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,200
with names because, you know, 
she individually wraps 

461
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,800
everything just to make sure 
that doesn't get damaged by rain

462
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,040
and you know, dust and wind and 
stuff like that. 

463
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,680
You know, people want fresh 
stuff when they get, when they 

464
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,920
spend money on stuff. 
As a person who spends money on 

465
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,920
stuff, I like getting fresh 
stuff that comes in good shape, 

466
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:35,160
you know, But there are one 
there are currently 5 speed 

467
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,760
racks in the front room and then
there's two racks like in the 

468
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,720
back. 
In picture number one, behind 

469
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:50,160
the outsourced books there is 
there's two non movable racks 

470
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,120
that have our board games and 
stuff on them. 

471
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,320
But we're talking about swapping
out the two non movable racks 

472
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,720
and putting the board games on 
them because we're doing 

473
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,080
fulfillment for folks and we end
up with big piles of boxes of 

474
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,840
books like the one I just 
unloaded. 

475
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,440
And we want to be able to get 
our board games out Because 

476
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,760
like, like tonight. 
Like we met a met a new friend 

477
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:17,080
Peter, at a board, a local board
game night last month and he's 

478
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,320
finally getting a chance to come
over. 

479
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,280
And we're. 
I want to show him all of the 

480
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,360
cool games and the weird stuff 
we have, but they're hiding 

481
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:27,800
behind boxes of outsourced and 
so it's our fault we got to get 

482
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,640
faster about it. 
No, we got to we'll get 

483
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,840
outsourced out the door. 
It's we're at the halfway point 

484
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,600
already after like less than a 
week. 

485
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,480
So feels pretty good. 
Feels pretty good. 

486
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,520
But eventually we're going to 
replace some of these static 

487
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,000
racks. 
We're moving some of this stuff 

488
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,320
to a storage space some stuff 
for a long term because 

489
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,160
eventually in the fall we'll 
have Karen coming in. 

490
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:54,000
So which is cool. 
And then the last picture is the

491
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,200
box folding zone. 
Those are a bunch more 

492
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,040
outsourced that are going to go 
out to the post office either 

493
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,400
this afternoon or early tomorrow
morning. 

494
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,440
And then that's one of my one of
my favorite things in the world 

495
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,720
that I own is the silkscreen of 
Dolly Parton that I got that I 

496
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,840
got put in a in a in a really 
fancy frame because I really 

497
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,640
love Dolly Parton like she's 
she's the best. 

498
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,840
She's kind of like my mom, I I 
swear. 

499
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,880
And yeah, her music's, her 
music's just done a lot for me. 

500
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,360
And yeah, it's one of those 
situations where you pay more to

501
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,800
frame the thing than you paid 
for the the screen print. 

502
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,960
So I was talking to my buddy 
Clint the other day and we were 

503
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,800
commenting that the real, the 
real racket is framing original 

504
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,480
art. 
Screw the original art. 

505
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,920
Don't be an artist. 
Go be an artist framer, like, 

506
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,680
because they're always gonna 
have work, you know? 

507
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,760
And that stuff is not. 
Cheap. 

508
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,480
No. 
Well, it's not though. 

509
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,360
It's worth it. 
It's. 

510
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,240
Not super easy. 
So I actually started as an art 

511
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,880
major in college and we learned 
how to like mat all of our 

512
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,760
stuff. 
There's actually a special 

513
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,720
machine to like cut it so it's 
like an angle in your squares 

514
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,320
and stuff. 
Like it's a little bit of work 

515
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,880
to actually put something in 
like a nice matting and a nice 

516
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,840
frame, so, but that is where 
money is. 

517
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaking of Karen, I got an 
e-mail today, we got the road 

518
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,720
ahead, May 17th edition. 
Was that you? 

519
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:29,080
Was that? 
Say what again? 

520
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,480
Karen, Karen, you said? 
Yeah. 

521
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,840
I got an e-mail from Space 
Penguin Inc today. 

522
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,640
Yeah, everyone just saw ADHD go 
live. 

523
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,080
No, I just saw it. 
I saw customer support e-mail 

524
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,240
pop up. 
I will. 

525
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,480
I will get to it shortly after 
the show. 

526
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,600
Yes, the road ahead. 
Was the road ahead e-mail good? 

527
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,920
Was it juicy? 
Did it feel like we told you 

528
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,520
stuff today? 
I I didn't get a chance to read.

529
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,640
It was at 9:31, so we were in 
the process of setting up for. 

530
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,880
This when we're ready to go on. 
Yes, I can read you what 

531
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:11,880
happened on On the Road Ahead. 
Adam, who is doing layout and 

532
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:17,360
design of the books, has just 
been a a beast. 

533
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,000
And I asked for percent last 
week because we're going, we're 

534
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,000
doing bi weekly updates now just
to maintain communications and 

535
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,960
stuff like that. 
Make sure folks know that we're 

536
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,480
not sleeping on the job and 
we're not just taking the money 

537
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,960
and messing off with it or 
whatever. 

538
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,040
And he just like he nailed me. 
He was like, here's a bunch of 

539
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,720
spreads and then here's all of 
these percentage wise of 

540
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,920
everything. 
So it just makes my job easier 

541
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,480
of pushing the update in there. 
And then Yohai goes through and 

542
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,920
make sure Derek goes through and
make sure that I don't sound too

543
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,680
stupid and robotic because I 
kind of get that way because I 

544
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,560
want to just present facts and 
not I. 

545
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,120
It's it's facts. 
It's a it's a contractual thing.

546
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,360
You know folks who spent money 
on this. 

547
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,680
And so I want to not lean into 
the emotion. 

548
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,440
Yes, it's it's emotionally. 
Yes, my job is awesome and it's 

549
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,760
great and I love doing what we 
do. 

550
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,440
And there's always going to be 
emotions and stuff. 

551
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,640
But when you're trying to put 
out proper communications and 

552
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,960
keep people up to date on where 
stuff's at, you try to do all 

553
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,640
the facts. 
So I tend to get really robotic 

554
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,520
and they make me sound not all 
robotic, but let's see, backer 

555
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,040
kit is coming in the next couple
of weeks. 

556
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,160
I'm still behind the scenes. 
I'm spending some time each day 

557
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:41,680
watching markets and making sure
that we are paying attention to 

558
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,440
how much these books weigh and 
where these books are shipping 

559
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,000
from. 
So we're trying to dial in. 

560
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,480
I'm trying to dial in those 
shipping prices so that when we 

561
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,520
go live with the smoke test here
in the next couple of weeks, 

562
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,040
people aren't like, how come it 
costs $4000 to ship here? 

563
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,320
I was because I I put an extra 
zero or two on there. 

564
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,200
I wasn't paying attention. 
It's a lot of bells and 

565
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,200
whistles. 
It's a lot of stuff and it's, I 

566
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,320
feel a good weight and a good 
responsibility behind the scenes

567
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,560
working on backer kits and stuff
like that. 

568
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,920
You know, a lot of our 
fulfillment clients allow me 

569
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,880
access to the backer kit as well
so that we can handle customer 

570
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,920
service issues and things like 
that and shipping addresses and 

571
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,080
all of that stuff. 
So I would say I've spent some 

572
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,120
time in backer kit prior to 
doing this, but since opening 

573
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,200
Space Penguin, I've spent a lot 
of time inside backer kit to the

574
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,760
point where I type in B in the 
address bar and it pops up, goes

575
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,760
straight to back kit, doesn't go
to base Camp, which is the 

576
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,040
project management software that
I use. 

577
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,480
You know it it it just goes 
straight to to to backer kit, 

578
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,720
which is fine. 
I'm actually having a meeting 

579
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,080
with them Monday about a new 
project that we're going to be 

580
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,360
running, but you have to close 
on the Karen stuff. 

581
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,760
There's a bunch of new 
spreadsheets with stuff covering

582
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,760
the factions and seeds. 
These are all from the Warden's 

583
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,920
Guide. 
And then the opening spread for 

584
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,320
event registration opens this 
Sunday. 

585
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,240
Thanks, Gen. 
Con. 

586
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,440
If anybody didn't know it's time
to get your time to get your 

587
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,520
events for Gen. 
Con for Amanda Pease Adventure. 

588
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,920
Dread Hospitality is getting is 
in getting the layout treatment 

589
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:35,000
right now and Zedek turned in 
his the other day and I believe 

590
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,000
Brad's is in and getting ready 
to be poured into layout. 

591
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,400
So yeah no, everything is 
everything is solid and on 

592
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,880
track. 
Great team to work with. 

593
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,360
Communication is just honest and
open and you know, like if 

594
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,160
something's dragging a little 
bit, we talk about it is 

595
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,480
something, you know, if I'm, if 
I'm not being as talkative about

596
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,960
something, they have no problem 
just asking. 

597
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,080
And I'm like, Oh yeah, yeah, 
cool. 

598
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,200
That's what it is. 
Because I got the thing, that 

599
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,640
ADHD thing, where it's all the 
answers are already in my head 

600
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,920
and I've already gone through 
the conversation four or five 

601
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,520
times. 
But if I don't type it out loud 

602
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,720
or say it out loud, then and 
it's just still in my head. 

603
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,680
Woo, yeah. 
Glad we're on the same page with

604
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,000
that one. 
Wait, what did I just say? 

605
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,240
Yeah, exactly. 
No, Yeah, that's exactly. 

606
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Yeah, I I tell people that all 
the time. 

607
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,600
Listen, I'll get it done. 
You just tell me what to do and 

608
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,560
people are like, but I don't 
want to tell you what to do. 

609
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,240
I'm like, no, I I need you. 
Tell me exactly what to do and 

610
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,600
when to do it, and I will do it.
But if you leave it up to me, I 

611
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,600
will get it done in 5 minutes 
after it's due. 

612
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:46,680
OK. 
So, so yeah, last time you were 

613
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:52,920
on you were talking about 
potentially going over the and I

614
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,880
don't know if that'll be this 
month or next month or what the 

615
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,600
in and outs of some of the what 
is the name of the publishing of

616
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:06,000
like that's not ADMC ad to ACD? 
ACD Distribution. 

617
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Yeah. 

618
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,280
Yeah. 
ACD, you had mentioned, you had 

619
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,639
mentioned, I'll just remember 
ACDC talk about that a little 

620
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:15,520
bit. 
Is that something you want to 

621
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,880
talk about this month, you want 
to talk about it? 

622
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,760
Sure, next time. 
Or totally happy to do. 

623
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,520
We're actually heading to 
Madison, WI for ACD Games Day 

624
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,920
next week, which is where we get
to meet all of the, well, not 

625
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,560
all, but we get to meet 200 plus
retailers. 

626
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:38,600
So the way that distribution 
works, and some of you are 

627
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,320
similar with how it works with 
booze and bars and convenience 

628
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,360
stores and grocery stores and 
stuff like that. 

629
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,360
Works the same for books in that
retailers. 

630
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,600
So your grocery store, your 
friendly local game store, your 

631
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:58,720
Tavern and your bar, They want 
to have a lot of selection for 

632
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:01,960
their guests. 
However, they, like everyone 

633
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,640
else, don't have a whole lot of 
time. 

634
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,400
And so if they were to meet with
every single brewery, or every 

635
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,600
single snack cake manufacturer, 
or every single book publisher, 

636
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,680
their their time would just be 
non existent and moot. 

637
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,680
Because not only are each 
disease each person carrying a 

638
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,400
different thing, each person has
a different mode of method of 

639
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,040
communication and whatnot. 
And what distributors do is they

640
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,640
allow us to give them all of 
this information in a timely 

641
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,560
manner. 
And with ACD it's monthly. 

642
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,080
So when we have a new release, 
we send in a cover photo and a 

643
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:47,480
press kit that has all of the 
stats for the book that covers 

644
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,400
the the if the colors cover or 
black and white if the interiors

645
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,280
or color black and white form 
factor. 

646
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,480
So is it a 5? 
Is it 5.5 by 8.5 inches? 

647
00:35:57,720 --> 00:35:59,280
Is it a four? 
You know, is it? 

648
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,600
Is it a card deck? 
Whatever it is, the page count, 

649
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,320
What system it's for, what it 
can be, You know what type of 

650
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,920
book it is. 
Is it an adventure? 

651
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:14,880
Is it a rule set itself? 
All all those details and then 

652
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,240
of course the marketing blurb. 
The the, the worst part. 

653
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,760
Like, This is why I'm so 
thankful to be able to work with

654
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,640
dye sugars. 
Because dye does all of this 

655
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:27,320
stuff for us. 
And like, I don't know how to 

656
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,720
say words in the right order. 
Yes, I'm an editor. 

657
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:31,880
I know how to make words appear 
in the right order. 

658
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,560
But from the whole cloth in my 
head, I'm I'm not good at being 

659
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,520
like, you should do this. 
Now if if we meet in a friendly 

660
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,160
local game store, I'm going to 
be like, oh dude, totally play 

661
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,200
mothership, like because it's 
like totally survival horror, 

662
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,920
blah blah blah. 
Yeah, I'm practiced at 

663
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,600
mothership and I can even read 
the back of this and tell you 

664
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,840
what's good about resonant or 
spirit night or anything like 

665
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,400
that. 
But from the whole cloth of my 

666
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,640
head, it's one more thing that 
I'm not good at. 

667
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,120
And so that's what dye is really
good at. 

668
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,160
And so we have these press kits 
that have a little bit of a 

669
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,920
tagline and then they have a 
blurred, you know, kind of an in

670
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,880
world bit about it. 
And then it tells you and then a

671
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,080
paragraph telling you exactly 
what that's about. 

672
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,160
So I send in photos, we send in 
the press kit with all the 

673
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,200
proper details. 
And then there's also other 

674
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,160
details that we have to have 
like the ISBN, the SKU that we 

675
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:27,760
use particularly for ACD. 
There's a hobby group that we 

676
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,760
are signed up for. 
I honestly can't remember the 

677
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,840
name of it because we signed up 
once we paid the fee and now we 

678
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,840
have our, we are SDJ so Space 
Penguin, Debbie, Jarrett, we 

679
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,480
wanted SPI but of course SPI has
been used for many other things 

680
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,840
over time. 
So all of our SKUs for all of 

681
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,080
our items now have a have a 
unique as SKU as stock keeping 

682
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:56,440
unit for those that now now now 
you know what a SKU is it didn't

683
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,400
know so, so if you see if you. 
See, I think I ever knew that 

684
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,320
so. 
Yeah, yeah. 

685
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:06,400
So if you see SDJZ, that means 
Space Penguin Zine, and then 

686
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:12,400
it'll have a catalog number 
which will be 0018. 

687
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,800
So that's the 18th release. 
In our internal catalogue we 

688
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:21,800
also do for specific lines, we 
have SDJFP, which stands for 

689
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,240
Forbidden Psalm. 
So that way all of the stuff in 

690
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:29,280
the Forbidden Psalm line has its
own little misnomer, little 

691
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,560
identifier. 
Not a big deal when you're 

692
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,400
small, when you're putting out 
like a couple of titles a month 

693
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,440
or whatever. 
But it's going to be a big deal 

694
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:44,160
in three to five years if we 
keep that up and suddenly we 

695
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:51,200
need to be like, OK, SDJ FP0071 
is going out of print or 

696
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,120
whatever. 
I need to be able to, I don't 

697
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,280
want to have to tell our Rep 
there Michael Parker and and 

698
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,120
there are by our purchaser, hey 
Michael, this title, blah, blah 

699
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,880
blah, blah blah. 
That title's going to go right 

700
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,160
out of his head. 
He doesn't, he doesn't need the 

701
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,680
title, He needs the SKU number, 
right. 

702
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,920
So everything has a SKU. 
Everything has an ISBN, which is

703
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,720
the barcode number for those 
folks who don't know and then 

704
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,800
has to have you know the price. 
And then the most important 

705
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,880
thing for us and well not for us
messing with shipping and stuff 

706
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,720
is the weight. 
So everything has to be weighed 

707
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:32,280
and every new print run has to 
be weighed between print runs 

708
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,120
because we print a lot of stuff 
at mix AM and sometimes mix AM 

709
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,240
will use a slightly less. 
They give you an average range 

710
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,560
of paperweight. 
So you don't always know. 

711
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,520
So sometimes you might get a 
print run and it weighs a little

712
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,400
bit more and that's very 
important to know when you are 

713
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,240
shipping things to a distributor
because then that distributor is

714
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,760
turning around and they have to 
have that weight in their system

715
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,000
for when. 
The best part of all this is 

716
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,120
when the friendly local game 
stores buy copies of our books 

717
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,600
and that's really what distros 
do. 

718
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,560
So we get them a bunch of 
information and then they give 

719
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,720
us orders for these books and 
then we ship these books to 

720
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,000
their warehouses. 
So that way the store. 

721
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,280
Can order stuff from the store, 
can order from ACD, they can 

722
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,480
order Space Penguin. 
At the same time they're 

723
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,840
ordering their Magic The 
Gathering at the same time 

724
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,280
they're ordering their Exalted 
Funeral. 

725
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,600
At the same time they're 
ordering Modifias and all this 

726
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,720
stuff. 
So that's really what 

727
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:36,600
distributors do, is they make it
easier for retailers to retail 

728
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,120
product. 
And then there's there's a whole

729
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,560
other world that I've touched a 
little bit, you know, from going

730
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,600
to ACD Games Day before 
previously. 

731
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,280
We're going this year, meeting, 
networking, meeting other 

732
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,360
publishers and talking about 
other publishers. 

733
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:55,120
Joseph Goodman's going to be 
there. 

734
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,600
I didn't get to. 
I haven't seen Joseph. 

735
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,400
He wasn't at Gary Console. 
It's going to be good to catch 

736
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,600
up touch base with him and then 
just to meet the retailers, to 

737
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,280
meet the people who are doing 
the frontline work of telling 

738
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,160
your people when they come into 
the store what to buy, you know?

739
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,920
And we all know that five EV is 
the big dog in the room when it 

740
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,040
comes to role-playing games. 
Like it's it is what it is. 

741
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,880
And the key, right, the the real
key is getting a retailer who 

742
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,040
sees stuff like Limit of horror 
or Mothership or Forbidden 

743
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,240
Solomon. 
It's just like, yeah, yeah, 

744
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:36,800
yeah, no, no, no, that's cool. 
I like Games Workshop. 

745
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,680
I play 40K the same as everybody
else. 

746
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,160
But you should try Forbidden Saw
because you can use all the 

747
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,400
minis you have at home. 
And our job when we go to events

748
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,720
like ACD Games Day is to talk to
retailers and tell them all this

749
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:53,520
more stuff because they get a 
monthly catalog called Meeple 

750
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,240
Monthly that has all of the new 
releases in it. 

751
00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:59,720
And then they of course have 
access to the back catalog you 

752
00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:03,440
can pick up. 
I believe don't quote me on it 

753
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,600
but I know that Meeple Monthly 
isn't limited to just brick and 

754
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,000
mortar stores. 
I think if you write to ACD that

755
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:13,840
you can actually get a 
subscription to Meeple Monthly 

756
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,640
if you wanted to see what's 
coming out and and available 

757
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,000
from ACD it's kind of neat 
because we it's cool really cool

758
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,840
for us because we get a new 
release and we get the actually 

759
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,920
it was funny the first issue 
that we were actually in came 

760
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:33,320
out and the postman we just 
delivered the cover the innards 

761
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,440
didn't get delivered so we were 
sad but but it's cool but we've 

762
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,800
we've got other issues and it's 
just neat to to flip back and 

763
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,480
it's it's all alphabetical and 
they have other cool articles in

764
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,240
there like interviews with 
publishers or spotlights on 

765
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:52,320
specific products or 
advertisements and stuff like 

766
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,840
that So you can kind of it's 
it's neat for us because it's a 

767
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,680
little bit more behind the 
scenes and we can kind of see 

768
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,960
what other cool neat stuff's 
coming up we can see what other 

769
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,080
publishers are doing and stuff 
like that you know so it's so 

770
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:13,480
yeah that's that's Maple monthly
so even more another layer of 

771
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:18,760
the onion. 
ACD is one of 16 distributors 

772
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,560
that I don't even know all of 
their names, but it one of the 

773
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:28,200
16 distributors that are in the 
United States that are servicing

774
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,720
the United States and Canada, 
North America essentially, and 

775
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:34,880
then parts of South America, 
other places overseas. 

776
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:39,640
Southern Hobby is another one. 
Diamond, a lot of people will 

777
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,280
probably know Diamond because of
the previous catalog, because of

778
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,600
comic books and stuff like that.
Well, Diamond is worldwide. 

779
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,120
They're a global company that 
handles that distribution and 

780
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,320
that consolidation to get all 
that cool stuff. 

781
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,520
So yeah, that's a little bit 
more about how the sausage is 

782
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,720
made. 
So it's not like we just make a 

783
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:00,120
Zine and it just magically 
appears in your friendly local 

784
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,320
game store. 
We make a Zine and then we 

785
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,360
solicit that Zine 3 to four 
months out. 

786
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,360
And then we have, you know, so 
we have to have the cover and we

787
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,440
have to have the, the blurb and 
the press kit for it. 

788
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,040
And then we've got you know 
another month for the Zine to 

789
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,080
get finished editing and any 
last bit of art or anything, all

790
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,880
the layout then it needs to be 
printed, then it has the land 

791
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,200
here. 
And then we wait anxiously and 

792
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,080
thankfully for orders to come in
from ACD and then big orders 

793
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,240
come in from ACD And then Debbie
spends half a day packaging 

794
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:36,840
these massive boxes of shit to 
that we send up. 

795
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Well, they have 4 warehouses, so
they actually servicing 4 major 

796
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,280
areas in the United States. 
So and they specialized in. 

797
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:53,440
Michael was part of the Goodman 
Games Indie Creator Summit back 

798
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,440
in January. 
And Michael and Mike, a 

799
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,680
different Mike from a different 
company, I think from Southern 

800
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:03,480
and one other fellow were on 
there and they did big 

801
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,160
discussion, see and I feel bad 
because I don't remember their 

802
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,760
names. 
But eventually as we branch out 

803
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,760
further into distribution, there
will be, I will be meeting all 

804
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,840
these folks and we'll have 
accounts with all of them and 

805
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,680
stuff like that because just 
like beer, we're just like snack

806
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,600
cakes. 
You know, it's like you go in 

807
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,000
and you go to your grocery store
and you want to get that new 

808
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,760
Mountain Dew flavor, right. 
We're fans. 

809
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,600
We're fans of new Mountain Dew. 
Here, Mountain Dew. 

810
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,360
Fans on the show COVID like the 
the well we have. 

811
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:37,520
We have like last year's Bomb 
Pop one, the Summer breeze one 

812
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,160
that tasted like a Bomb Pop. 
Shit was so good. 

813
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,240
We still have cans in it. 
It's it's like actually it's 

814
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:47,720
going flat anyway. 
When you go to your, when you go

815
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:51,080
to your friendly local grocery 
store or say you go to a bar or 

816
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,200
whatever and you're like, how 
come you guys don't have Beer X 

817
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:59,760
much like much like that certain
restaurants don't have accounts 

818
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,600
with certain distributors. 
And so the end goal for us is to

819
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,840
at some point get with more of 
these distributors so that we 

820
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,640
can cover more of these game 
stores. 

821
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,960
Because if I recall correctly 
and I'll find out next week when

822
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,640
I'm at ACD Games today but I 
believe ACD services 1600 stores

823
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:27,840
which is a huge amount like and 
eventually you know we're our 

824
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:33,080
goal is to make our name known 
enough so that those 1600 stores

825
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,600
like it. 
I I don't know if we'll ever get

826
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,200
to where where we're selling 
1600 copies of stuff to read to 

827
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,960
to distro. 
But that would be when that's 

828
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,120
that's when you're like Hasbro 
level and you know like, right, 

829
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,040
even like I don't know if Diffie
is quite at that level, like 

830
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,760
free league, some of that stuff,
you know some of those big ones 

831
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:56,240
where where the majority of the 
stores that work with a specific

832
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:01,200
distributor are are doing that. 
Then that's, that's when you've,

833
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,240
that's when you're starting to 
saturate the market and that's 

834
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:06,520
when you're just like cool, I 
can move a lot more units 

835
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,400
because you're selling them at A
at a discount, you know? 

836
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,920
It's actually, I'm actually on. 
Oh. 

837
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,520
No. 
Whoever distributes Magic Cat to

838
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,120
the West Coast, can you start 
doing that? 

839
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,120
Again, I'd appreciate some #9. 
It's been a little while. 

840
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,600
What were you saying on her? 
I'm actually on Acd's website 

841
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,000
right now and I'm on Space 
Penguin Inks options. 

842
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,080
They have no images for almost 
anything that you have on their 

843
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,240
website. 
It's almost. 

844
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,160
I should probably. 
I'm probably going to get a 

845
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,240
lecture next week for Michael 
and he's going to be like, can 

846
00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:41,200
you send me images? 
And I'm going to be like and 

847
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,760
it's like. 
Eight of your 25 things on here 

848
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,160
or 34 items on here. 
Yeah, my bad. 

849
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,320
It's probably my bad, although I
think I sent them in. 

850
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,360
But again, like they're they're 
in the same boat as us. 

851
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,400
They're had. 
They have however many clients 

852
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,640
you can probably you know, you 
can look on a C DS website and 

853
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,320
you can see how however many 
publishers work with them on a 

854
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,920
regular basis and not every, not
every publisher puts out 

855
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,240
something new every month. 
We've we've locked in and we've 

856
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,000
got will and so we have a 
forbidden sum monthly for this 

857
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,520
year. 
Although I think I'm killing 

858
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,280
him. 
No he's he's he's under the 

859
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,640
weather right now. 
Shout out to you Will. 

860
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,360
He's just actually, there's a 
bunch of messengers from him 

861
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,120
anyway. 
There's some stuff on here I've 

862
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,160
never heard of. 
What is most muscular minis? 

863
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,080
That's coming up next month 
that's those are those are 

864
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,960
printed most muscular Minis is 
by Tyler Welch with art and 

865
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,560
design by Eric Hill. 
It is a riff. 

866
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:49,760
It's it's an expansion on 
meatheads but about four 

867
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,080
forbidden Tom. 
So it's skirmish miniatures in 

868
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,440
the vein of like Cloth Goblins 
but with meatheads and so you 

869
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,280
know you get your brawniest 
minis. 

870
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,880
Yeah it was Tyler did it up for 
the jam and I saw it and he 

871
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,040
reached out and was just like 
this is this is cool. 

872
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,320
He's like he loves. 
He loves FP and Tyler is 

873
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:17,080
actually is good buds with 
goblin archives and they've 

874
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,080
worked together on some previous
projects and stuff. 

875
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,960
And Tyler, it's not. 
Yeah, not trying to dox anybody 

876
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,440
but Tyler's a personal trainer 
so he's well equipped to write a

877
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:32,120
meatheads slash forbidden 
ensemble muscular minis 

878
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,240
supplement. 
So yeah. 

879
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,240
And it's actually printed. 
It's in it's in it's in one of 

880
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,200
those pictures in a box. 
I swear. 

881
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,720
So those have. 
Those have arrived. 

882
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,000
Those are I can tell you when 
those go out, those are those 

883
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,360
will be July. 
No, those will be June. 

884
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,320
So those will be released in the
middle of June along with seven 

885
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,240
deadly sins. 
Gluttony, which is the next one 

886
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:59,520
in the monthly FP. 
So it's a double FP month next 

887
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,920
month and then July, July, 
there's is, is, is is singular. 

888
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,160
We just have we are dust which 
is just one forbidden the 

889
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,320
forbidden saw monthly. 
But then August, probably late 

890
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,000
July will be all of the 
forbidden Psalm end times and 

891
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,760
collection. 
I'm going to speak with Michael 

892
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,280
about that next week. 
And now that we've got most 

893
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,960
everybody, all the fulfillment, 
I'm checking, tracking and 

894
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,240
everything is as we're we're 
approaching that 100% mark for 

895
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:30,080
delivered and stuff. 
Yeah, those are the monthlies, 

896
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,560
right? 
Just four so far, right? 

897
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,240
Plus plus. 
Spurt. 

898
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,960
Night spurt. 
Night. 

899
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:38,960
He's breeding dose here. 
I'm going to put it close. 

900
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,200
Check out that type of Spirit 
night. 

901
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,040
It's supposed to say Spirit 
night. 

902
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,320
This is what happens when Will 
was working at super fast speed 

903
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,200
and and Jared editing it, missed
it and Roz editing it missed it 

904
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,160
and Die marketing missed it and 
Debbie packaging missed it. 

905
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,000
So we had to we had to do a 
reprint because we don't. 

906
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,280
We wanted we fixed the cover. 
So it was a team effort to. 

907
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,920
It was a team effort to with 
that one. 

908
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,840
We even fixed it once and I 
still managed to press order. 

909
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,600
And so I was the biggest dummy 
of all, because I should have 

910
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:20,760
double checked that before I 
sent the damn thing through the 

911
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,640
order, because I even caught it 
before we sent it in a small 

912
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,200
mistake. 
It cost us a little bit of 

913
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,040
money, but hey, we'd rather fix 
it and get it right out there. 

914
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,120
So that makes these collectors 
items, which I know. 

915
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,960
I we said earlier, I'm going to 
send you guys copies of Spurt 

916
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,680
Night so you can. 
Have. 

917
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,160
It's a good one. 
I'm really I'm I'm really, 

918
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,480
really excited about it. 
It just your copy should be 

919
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,160
there, of course, probably 
today, Ryan. 

920
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,600
Like right after, right after 
the show. 

921
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,360
It'll probably arrive. 
I had my Informed Delivery 

922
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,400
sitting here refreshing every 
now and then, hoping that we 

923
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,960
just pop up on the doorstep but 
of. 

924
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,600
Course. 
Not quite, not quite yet today, 

925
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,720
so I'll show it off next month. 
You. 

926
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,800
Know what we'll do? 
We'll plan next month. 

927
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,240
I will sense most muscular minis
and seven deadly sins. 

928
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:11,600
Gluttony are actually in the 
other room already. 

929
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,120
I will put those in the pack 
with Spurt Knight and some other

930
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:20,200
stuff and send them to you so 
that you have them for the show.

931
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,800
For next time next month. 
So you're supposed to get that 

932
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,120
on the calendar for next month, 
don't we? 

933
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,400
We do. 
We do. 

934
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,560
We'll we'll. 
Reach the end of our previously 

935
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,160
planned episodes. 
Wow, look at us. 

936
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,200
Raise what? 
And they all almost went on. 

937
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,400
All the days that we're supposed
to have. 

938
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,280
Yeah, the last couple things. 
So some of the things that are 

939
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,240
in my box coming today or 
tomorrow, There we go. 

940
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,360
That's what I was waiting for is
Daisy Chainsaw. 

941
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,960
Daisy Chainsaw. 
For the last three months, I was

942
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,080
like, oh, Jared, So when's Jay-Z
team's not coming? 

943
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,320
He's like in like 2 months. 
And then I was like, oh, hey, 

944
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,760
when's Jay-Z? 
He's like I said next month. 

945
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:52,480
I was like, Oh yeah, that's 
right. 

946
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,720
That's right. 
So finally got to actually order

947
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:55,760
that. 
Yeah. 

948
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,840
That's that's part of the the 
the deal with being in 

949
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,360
distribution is things get 
solicited on that 90 to 120 day 

950
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,920
cycle. 
So like this list here is all of

951
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,880
the plans for all of the stuff 
for all of the monthly FPS plus 

952
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:17,360
some other stuff like I can tell
you, oh I can tease you Isle of 

953
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,560
Hex for DCC. 
It's going to be a really good 

954
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,000
one that's going to be coming 
bad in November. 

955
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,520
I was actually, I saw the new 
cover for that that Geo Gabbar 

956
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,040
was just working on. 
That one's going to be pretty 

957
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,320
fun. 
It was originally a short like I

958
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:38,400
think going 12 or 16 page 
digital Zine and it's it's a 

959
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:45,040
weird fucked up island and it's 
just kind of ridiculous and it's

960
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,760
going to be really great when it
gets out there. 

961
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,760
It's going to have all kinds of 
fat BCC stats and a little 

962
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,920
dungeon in it. 
Oh pie sluggers might make it 

963
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,720
out this year. 
And then we've got some other 

964
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:59,760
new releases next month we'll 
have at the beginning of the 

965
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:05,160
month we'll have a backer kit 
crowd fund campaign for Luminal 

966
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,000
Horror, the parthenogenesis of 
Hungry Hollow. 

967
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,800
So that one's coming up soon. 
Guy is working on the marketing 

968
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:15,120
headers for that right now and 
we're figuring out I've got a 

969
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,640
meeting about that one early 
next week. 

970
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,880
So that one sign up for that one
to follow along. 

971
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,840
But let's move back to talking 
about Daisy Chainsaw. 

972
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,480
So magical girls and if you 
don't like magical girls, then I

973
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,320
don't know what's wrong with 
you. 

974
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,400
We went with Spiral Bound we. 
Went with spiral bound we. 

975
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,120
We went with the soft touch on 
the cover just to give it a 

976
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,560
little bit more class. 
Charlotte really, really, really

977
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,960
knocked us out of the park. 
This one first came on board 

978
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:52,080
about two years ago. 
It it it came on my radar. 

979
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:58,720
And then since Space Penguin has
opened, we brought it on board 

980
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:03,080
over here. 
It's got some really cool neato 

981
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,160
dice mechanics. 
I haven't had a chance to sit 

982
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,320
and play it fully yet. 
It's game night tonight. 

983
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,480
We're going to play Hero Quest 
and then after that I think I 

984
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,800
might have everybody make 
characters for a Daisy chainsaw,

985
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,880
which gives me an excuse to 
watch some more Sailor Moon 

986
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:24,520
again. 
I mean absolutely right. 

987
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,560
And then and build up episodes 
for everyone to play. 

988
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,200
But we're really super stoked to
finally have this out. 

989
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,240
Charlotte if you're watching 
your listening kick ass I know 

990
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:43,760
you know and we even have plans 
for if this is a hit and it 

991
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,000
takes off and people really 
really dig it and we're find 

992
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,560
ourselves flying. 
We find it flying off the shelf 

993
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,600
then doing some sort of like 
larger version of it in the 

994
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,880
shape of a Trapper Keeper. 
I'd be sick. 

995
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,760
Yeah. 
I've wanted to do traffic 

996
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,320
keepers and and for for other 
projects because I'm just like 

997
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,320
kind of jokingly here and there.
Squishy would would would be one

998
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,440
that would benefit from a Val. 
Squishy, you know. 

999
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,600
Squishy right of. 
Course I yeah, we went over. 

1000
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,480
Squishy. 
OK, me and me and someone else 

1001
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,080
went over Squishy on the show 
when Hunter wasn't there. 

1002
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,400
But yeah, I got that. 
Wasn't here. 

1003
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,560
I saw the episode. 
Oh no. 

1004
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,240
Yeah, I have every everything 
squishy possible. 

1005
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,160
So love, squishy such. 
A great movie. 

1006
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,800
Well, and Trapper Keeper was one
of the first things that that 

1007
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,360
Charlotte mentioned with this 
you know, and doing that. 

1008
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,920
And yeah, it's it's just a 
matter of finding the right way 

1009
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,960
to do it and and and price it 
right and and to be like, oh, 

1010
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,760
you made the Trapper Keeper 
edition because it would need it

1011
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:45,960
will. 
It'll need a flesh out. 

1012
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,080
It'll need like, a player's book
And then the DMS, you know, Oh. 

1013
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,480
My gosh. 
Hide and and whatnot so the MC. 

1014
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,200
If you could do it like the 
fucking what were those? 

1015
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,720
What's that? 
She she did the very hyper 

1016
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:02,720
saturated like dolphins and 
stuff. 

1017
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,080
Who am I thinking of? 
Lisa. 

1018
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,360
Frank. 
Lisa. 

1019
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,640
Frank. 
He had like, Lisa Frank style. 

1020
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,560
Like the playbook was like 
folders inside the Trapper 

1021
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,280
Keeper and there could be like, 
pencils with like erasers that 

1022
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,120
were like little magical girls. 
That would, I would, I would 

1023
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,120
freak out. 
That would be amazing, Yeah. 

1024
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,440
So that's that's obviously a 
massive inspiration on on 

1025
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,520
Charlotte and and all of that 
with all of this and so that's 

1026
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,840
why we we went with the spiral 
bound to have it feel like you 

1027
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,920
know a notebook that you would 
pick up and stuff. 

1028
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:33,920
So that's. 
Great. 

1029
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,560
Well, I mean expect, expect, 
expect that you might see that 

1030
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:42,400
on the show at some point. 
Yeah, I've had the PDF of my 

1031
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,440
Dropbox for a while. 
So I think that's definitely on 

1032
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,240
our list of of of stuff to go 
over. 

1033
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,280
So people will be able to see a 
little bit more of that in 

1034
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,960
depth. 
Neat. 

1035
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:57,040
Oh and then last one we don't. 
We talked about at the meetings 

1036
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,040
of Madness and we talked about 
Resonance. 

1037
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:05,560
These, these came out last month
at at Mom. 

1038
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,480
Yeah. 
It's got the best acronym of 

1039
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,320
anything we've released for at 
Mom. 

1040
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:17,400
At Mom is is really beautiful. 
And this actually made a sneak 

1041
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,960
debut at Gary Conn and we sold 
most of the copies out there, 

1042
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,800
which was really great. 
And then I believe I heard the 

1043
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,840
other day that Goodman Games is 
offering it as an add on because

1044
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,640
they've purchased wholesale 
copies from us. 

1045
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,520
They're offering it as an add on
for one of their current 

1046
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,240
Kickstarters that they've got 
going on. 

1047
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,760
So that's kind of exciting. 
That means we'll that means 

1048
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,400
hopefully they'll be selling 
through a bunch of those copies 

1049
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,120
and they'll be buying more 
copies from us, which means 

1050
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,280
another print run soon. 
So I'm really really super 

1051
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:55,600
stoked about this so and I've 
actually done this one yeah it's

1052
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,600
it's I'm not a I'm I'm more of 
ADCC person than an MCC person 

1053
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:07,560
but I still, I still darely love
some MCC and it's it's it's 

1054
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,240
definitely a high level module 
although when I ran it I ran it 

1055
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,920
as a zero level module. 
Everybody died. 

1056
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,120
Gotcha. 
That's how it. 

1057
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,880
Goes, yeah. 
That's how it goes. 

1058
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,800
So, and then I think, yeah, we 
talked a little bit about 

1059
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,920
Resonance last month. 
So it's one of one of the, one 

1060
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,120
of the dueling bugs with sound 
modules, right. 

1061
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,320
You know, because there's 
another bug hunt from from 

1062
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,800
another bug hunt that's up in 
that box. 

1063
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,720
And then there's resident Amanda
Pease. 

1064
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:44,080
She wrote Tannic and she wrote 
Dread Hospitality, which is 

1065
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,760
coming out for Cairn, which 
would be in that box set. 

1066
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,600
Super cool. 
The best part of it is and 

1067
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,080
she'll get the joke because 
she's watching and listening is 

1068
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,040
it's just it's just an antique 
diving suit right. 

1069
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,160
But we both. 
I don't remember the 

1070
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:09,600
conversation exactly but we both
ended up with just the idea that

1071
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,800
you wanted an antique diving 
suit. 

1072
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,440
I think it's it's in the. 
It's in the text here, right. 

1073
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,080
And I was just like that's just 
the sort of random thing that 

1074
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,440
just needs to be illustrated. 
And so Tony Tran did a really 

1075
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,960
great rendition of it and and 
from the get go Tony just nailed

1076
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,800
it like it was so beautiful and 
we're just like boom. 

1077
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,280
It's that kind of that's that's 
the kind of weirdness factor 

1078
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,360
that we kind of do with stuff 
that we're we're doing with 

1079
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:41,080
Space Penguin is sure. 
Of course, if you do a 

1080
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,200
mothership module, you want to 
have the monsters, the bugs or 

1081
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,760
whatever, you know, the bad 
guys. 

1082
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,600
You want to have it, dude. 
But no, let's just have a 

1083
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,360
antique diving suit, because who
doesn't want to look at a 

1084
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,040
beautiful picture of an antique 
diving suit? 

1085
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,400
I mean, it's so pretty. 
It does look like a good 

1086
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:56,680
picture. 
Yeah, it's so pretty. 

1087
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:04,800
I mean, and the cover too is 
fantastic the the design on this

1088
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:09,120
is is is crazy. 
Yeah, it's Tony Tony's aren't 

1089
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,600
and Dye Sugar's design on that 
and all I wanted to shout out. 

1090
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:18,920
Dye's maps that he did for this 
are just spot on amazing. 

1091
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:23,840
Like I'm lucky to work with that
guy every single week. 

1092
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:28,480
I'm super excited for a not 
Space Penguin project, but a 

1093
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,440
project that I edited. 
Did you? 

1094
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,880
Did you possibly back Snake Wolf
Three? 

1095
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:39,360
Cycle of the Snake Wolf 3. 
What kind of question is that? 

1096
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,720
What the fuck kind of question 
is? 

1097
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,560
That well, you're you're in. 
You are in for a treat. 

1098
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,880
Did you pick up one of the you 
picked it up? 

1099
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,920
Yes, because I was going to. 
Ask you these questions knowing 

1100
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,360
the answer well, I was going. 
To No. 

1101
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,000
What do you think about that 
thing Is a phone book, is it 

1102
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,920
not? 
It's a phone. 

1103
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,680
Look at this shit and it's it's 
Snake, Wolf. 

1104
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,760
And then three. 
If if people didn't get that, 

1105
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,960
yeah, this is insane. 
And that's just the epub version

1106
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,240
without all that's not that's 
not fully laid out that's this 

1107
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:15,560
is, this is a work copy with it 
has some illustrations and and 

1108
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,120
some bits and pieces of here and
there. 

1109
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:23,720
But that is that is literally 
like, yeah, no, it was a it was 

1110
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,640
an incredible joy to watch and 
work with Sean while he was 

1111
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,120
writing that. 
And then I spent, he rode an 

1112
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,440
entire megadungeon and I think 
it was three months. 

1113
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,160
And then it took me about two 
months to do initial 

1114
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,560
developmental editing and and 
editing copy line pass to get it

1115
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,000
in good shape for dye. 
And then now dye's been working 

1116
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,200
on it for a couple of months and
the layout and whatnot and it's 

1117
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:51,160
headed to do to head back my way
to start working with as A to 

1118
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,360
start spot checking all the 
stuff near the end. 

1119
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,000
Like I'm so, I'm so excited to 
see, like I've seen bits and 

1120
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,920
pieces of what Dye's done as far
as like the design and the 

1121
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,520
hierarchy and stuff. 
Sean's always sending me like 

1122
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,960
new art previews and stuff like 
that. 

1123
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:11,040
Like it's going to be monstrous.
Like it's it's it's just going 

1124
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,760
to be like it's yeah, I'm, I'm 
super happy to be. 

1125
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,040
I'm always happy to work on all 
projects. 

1126
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:22,160
But that one is just it's just 
so it's so big. 

1127
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,600
It's so bulky. 
It's so it's so goofy. 

1128
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,280
And then when people actually 
read it and they're like when 

1129
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,600
they realize what all's in it, 
like, did you manage to read it 

1130
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,400
or flip through it a little bit?
I flip. 

1131
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:38,360
Through it's dense. 
I really, I love stuff like 

1132
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,320
that. 
But I also will like, I don't 

1133
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,160
read PDFs of books that I back 
on Kickstarter until I have the 

1134
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,520
physical one of my hands. 
Yeah. 

1135
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,080
So it's kind of like that. 
So I have it. 

1136
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,280
I flip through it a little bit, 
but also shout out to fucking 

1137
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,800
dye sugars by the way. 
Like they the the stuff that 

1138
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:59,520
they do, the random art that 
they post on on Twitter, like 

1139
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,400
there's been numerous times 
where we've got a book and been 

1140
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,160
like man, I fucking love the 
layout of this. 

1141
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,720
Who is this Dye Sugars? 
Kings Fighting City Squishy. 

1142
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,560
I mean the maps that they do, 
just the talent of that person 

1143
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,040
is absolutely fantastic. 
Fucking dye sugars is, you know 

1144
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,200
it's it's awesome. 
You get to work with them and 

1145
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,720
and everything that they do is 
fantastic. 

1146
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,720
So, so shadow dye sugars. 
I agree. 

1147
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,240
Every single, every single day 
we have, we have a standing 

1148
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,640
Monday morning meeting at 7:00, 
my time. 

1149
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,280
And it's like afternoon for him.
And we get in there and like, 

1150
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,960
it's just, it's awesome. 
It's like, OK, cool. 

1151
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,280
This is what we're going to do 
with the week. 

1152
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,200
So he made me have those 
meetings on those at 7:00. 

1153
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,040
It just makes sense. 
Let's have a Monday morning 

1154
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,640
stand up and let's do it. 
Me and Hunter have a Monday 

1155
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,320
morning 10:00 AM meeting 
standing that we've never 

1156
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,360
actually had. 
We did it this Monday. 

1157
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:51,680
It was a phone call. 
It was 2 hours. 

1158
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,320
Oh, the phone call. 
Yeah, we talked more. 

1159
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:55,520
We talked a lot this week, 
buddy. 

1160
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,720
Yeah, listen, I listen, I've 
been trying to come back from 

1161
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,560
non existing, I promise, you 
know. 

1162
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,320
Hey I'm I'm not I'm good with 
non existing don't perceive. 

1163
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,040
Me, please. 
You can no longer say we didn't 

1164
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,160
keep that meeting because this 
one week out of the five, we did

1165
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,080
keep it. 
So yeah. 

1166
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,760
Five weeks of of trying to get 
together and we have not. 

1167
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,760
But yeah, again, you are 
awesome. 

1168
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,000
You've surrounded yourself with 
awesome people and Space Penguin

1169
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,560
just continues to grow and be 
awesome. 

1170
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,440
And we'd love having you here on
the show to talk about the new 

1171
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,560
releases, to get more insight 
into it. 

1172
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,760
Like you said, you have a lot of
really awesome talent, people 

1173
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:34,600
doing a lot of weird awesome 
talent like stuff for SPI, and 

1174
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:35,800
I'm so excited to have those 
things. 

1175
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,360
Yeah, no. 
Well, thank you guys for having 

1176
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,800
me on. 
Like, it's super great, of 

1177
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,800
course to be here and to be able
to and and just talk about and 

1178
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:47,480
give little tidbits and insights
into it. 

1179
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,960
Because I'm, I'm always learning
and I'm always figuring this 

1180
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,360
out. 
And just, yeah, like, I mean, 

1181
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,280
I'm lucky enough to go work with
all these cool people on all 

1182
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,680
these cool projects, like all 
the time, every day. 

1183
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,680
Like, it's the best fucking job 
in the world, Best job I've ever

1184
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,520
had. 
Like getting up every day and 

1185
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:08,480
doing cool, weird nerd shit with
my nerd friends. 

1186
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,880
Like it's it's awesome and just 
part of it, being on the show. 

1187
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,760
So and especially because you do
things like, yeah, you could 

1188
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,240
take a 10 minute break while you
unload that palette, you know? 

1189
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,840
Of course, even better. 
Yeah, we'll edit it out. 

1190
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,600
Probably. 
Probably, yeah. 

1191
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,080
Just leave it in there. 
Just. 

1192
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,160
Leave it in there for Yeah, 
because, you know, someone 

1193
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,840
listened to it on the podcast, 
is going to be driving and 

1194
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,760
they're going to be like, that 
actually was pretty soothing. 

1195
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,160
It was nothing for 10 minutes. 
Nothing. 

1196
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,560
Yeah. 
No. 

1197
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:37,880
Yeah, again. 
Like we'll have you on for as 

1198
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,640
long as you're going to be. 
You know, we do this. 

1199
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:43,360
We do this for, for for the 
homies and for the people that 

1200
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,800
like weird little shit. 
You know, we we know that at our

1201
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:50,640
format is not for everyone, 
especially in the culture built 

1202
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,920
on 62nd tik toks. 
So if you can sit through three 

1203
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,600
hours of us complaining about 
the minutiae, you know fucking Z

1204
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,000
and you know we we have. 
We're happy to have you all as a

1205
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:04,080
fan and having you able to come 
on like I said, not only as as a

1206
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,520
wonderful guest but as a friend 
of both of us, it's it's always 

1207
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,680
fantastic. 
So everyone listening you know 

1208
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,640
continue to expect jerk to be 
here every month for the 

1209
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,680
foreseeable future as long as 
we're able to make it work. 

1210
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,080
So we can keep talking about all
the amazing releases and the 

1211
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,680
growth of the company and all 
the things that you can teach us

1212
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,560
along the way as you learn more 
and more and eventually get to 

1213
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,440
modifius Nasbro levels and take 
over from Wizards of the Coast 

1214
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,720
and then run the world. 
I mean, that's that's where 

1215
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,600
we're getting nice, right? 
Dream. 

1216
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,880
Yeah, just don't get too big 
because then everyone hates you 

1217
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:42,560
just cuz you're successful. 
But no way. 

1218
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,000
It is what it is. 
But again jerk, thank you so 

1219
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,400
much for being here. 
We will let you all know next 

1220
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,960
month when when Jerk's going to 
come on again, we'll chat a 

1221
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,320
little bit more, especially 
after you've been to to the ACD 

1222
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,280
Yeah, ACD games day. 
So we can chat a little bit more

1223
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:02,640
about the the insurance and outs
of that and join us on Sunday. 

1224
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,960
I know we mentioned very briefly
the next Luminal Horror release 

1225
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,440
coming out. 
We are going to have Goblin 

1226
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,960
Archives and Josh Dramansky on 
the show on Sunday, going over a

1227
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,600
Luminal Horror writing seminar 
and talking a little bit about 

1228
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,120
the Twisted Classics Jam that 
they're having for Luminal 

1229
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,279
Horror as well. 
So expect more Luminal Horror 

1230
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:24,880
content here on the show as well
before more content comes to 

1231
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,479
Space Penguin Inc. 
So that's us. 

1232
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,560
That is it. 
Yeah. 

1233
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,080
Double, double, Double barrel 
space Penguin this week. 

1234
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,680
That's great. 
Oh, there we go. 

1235
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,279
So we can just next month catch 
us on. 

1236
01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:39,920
Fuck, we actually have an 
episode on Saturday too. 

1237
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:45,120
This won't be up before then, 
but what? 

1238
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:46,920
We got three episodes in a row, 
and. 

1239
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,960
Then an episode on Monday. 
So we have a busy four days 

1240
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:51,479
ahead of us. 
Wow. 

1241
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,399
Thank you for being here. 
Nope, thank you. 

1242
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,680
Thank you to those in chat. 
Thank you Ginger, and we will 

1243
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,120
see you all later. 
Guess what we We fixed the 

1244
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,439
camera thing. 
It was perfect. 

1245
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,600
It was perfect for those about 
it doesn't matter to you, but 

1246
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,319
for those on YouTube. 
My hands to see if I can. 

1247
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:11,160
Kiss my camera. 
All right. 

1248
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:11,479
Bye.