1 00:00:15,510 --> 00:00:17,830 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll Podcast. 2 00:00:17,830 --> 00:00:23,270 My name is Ryan. And I'm Jared from Space 3 00:00:23,270 --> 00:00:27,440 Penguin, Inc. And this is another not cat 4 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,640 chats, I think. I think 18I I, it would be great 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,200 if we remembered what number they were everywhere for the 6 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,040 whole time. But a year and a half worth I 7 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,560 guess at some point. But how's everybody doing? 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,360 How's it going, jerk? Doing all right so far. 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,280 Happy and awake on a Sunday morning. 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,280 Oh yeah. That's us. 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,680 We're all bright bushy tailed awake, not slurping Red Bulls 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,560 and coffees and and and jerk with his sexy morning voice 13 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,720 right now. You can hear it. 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,600 Is that a Traveler mug? Yeah. 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,640 That's the beautiful, beautiful thing. 16 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,560 Where did you get that at? Ryan got it for me actually, so. 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,800 That's really cool. That's really cool. 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,760 Does it say the Mayday? Mayday. 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,840 This is Beowulf. Absolutely does. 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,520 For those at home listening, Ryan Hunter is holding up his 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,760 coffee cup that has the classic blurb from Classic Traveler on 22 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,240 it. It's beautiful thing. 23 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:35,400 This this blurb right here, Yeah. 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,920 That's great. That's a really nice shaped box. 25 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Excuse me. Yes, it was. 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:48,480 Not inexpensive. Yeah, I had one for a little 27 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,800 while and I traded it away and I just keep the 77 little brown 28 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,680 books, little black books around now. 29 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,080 So I actually. I actually have a whole a whole 30 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,280 extra set of little black books, the 77 black books too, that I 31 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,440 got to do something with at some point. 32 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,720 You should find some random person who's never played 33 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,240 Traveler and gift it to them. That's usually what I do with 34 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,680 them. You find someone who's never 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,120 played 80 tabletop RPG, like maybe they can have an interest 36 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,040 in it and give it to them. Just give them 77 traveler. 37 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,720 Yeah, I also, what else do I got here? 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:27,360 I got the new book 9 pirates and then a couple of dope things 39 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,440 from Arcane Sword Press, adding Max and space truckers. 40 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,120 But they all just, you know, obviously look good on the shelf 41 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,280 together. So, yeah, yeah. 42 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,400 Also, Arcane Sword Press is like a cool name, you know? 43 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,960 It's a great, yeah. Yeah, seems like a cool dude. 44 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,400 I was bummed I couldn't go to Arcane Con this year, but I'm 45 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,760 I'm not putting any VCO requests. 46 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,080 I'm working a bunch of overtime. I'm trying to get a bunch of 47 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,800 extra time off and and stuff that didn't make it to little 48 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,280 little cons throughout the year that happened to be in the 49 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,480 middle of fucking nowhere. So from middle of nowhere 50 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,040 California, it's going to, you know, take three days to to do. 51 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,720 But hey, you know what? That's the fun of it. 52 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,400 So excited to get there Dirt. How are we talking about fun 53 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,200 cons in in Florida? Maybe I don't. 54 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,360 I think the last time I was in Florida I was a child too young 55 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,840 to remember. So I want to take a trip at some 56 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,520 point. Carol, going to Florida, that's 57 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,880 not very safe. You know, third world country 58 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,600 out there. Yeah, it's. 59 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,280 It's it's pretty wild out here, so. 60 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,560 I hear they eat, they eat and alligators and stuff, you know? 61 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,160 Absolutely. And it's that shit tastes really 62 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:39,400 good too. Actually I've. 63 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,120 Never had an alligator actually. I would definitely try it so. 64 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,720 Yeah, there's a, there's a couple places like out on the 65 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,520 beaches and stuff like that that sell it. 66 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,680 So I mean, tastes like fried fish, pretty much. 67 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,800 Oh OK, that sounds fine to me. Yeah, 'cause it's usually. 68 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,160 Dinosaur sounds pretty epic actually, you know. 69 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,560 Usually battered and fried, so that's how I get it. 70 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,200 That sounds super OK actually. Yeah, I. 71 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Think I. Think I had alligator. 72 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,360 I know I've had alligator jerky. I don't know if I've had batter 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,320 than fried alligator, but obviously I don't eat alligator 74 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,240 anymore so. Are you a vegetarian now? 75 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,839 Vegan now. I've I've been a vegan for going 76 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,240 on 10 years now I think. Nice. 77 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,360 So, you know, got to do what you got to do. 78 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,880 Yeah, I need to fix this window. Remind me to fix my windows. 79 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,280 Make a note. I'm going to make a note. 80 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,880 I got a new board here that I never remembered to write on. 2 81 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,160 Two things wrong with this board. 82 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,000 One, I never remember to write on it. 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,160 Two, my penmanship is so bad when I go back to read my notes 84 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,360 later, can't fucking read them so. 85 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,400 Really. It's so bad. 86 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,720 I blame the system. I blame the system because I 87 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,840 moved from Texas to Pennsylvania between like at the end of third 88 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:54,400 grade to start 4th grade and in Texas you do cursive in 4th 89 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,440 grade and in Pennsylvania you do cursive in 3rd grade. 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,240 So I got there in 4th grade, everyone had already done 91 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,240 cursive for a year and they tried to make me like catch up 92 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,640 super fast so my penmanship was garbage and it never recovered. 93 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,720 That's OK, Learning cursive was meaningless and I've never used 94 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,680 it so. Yeah, but it stunted my other 95 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,720 writing and then blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 96 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,960 You know what I mean? I wish I wrote in cursive now, 97 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,960 because that's basically what it looks like when I write, because 98 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,400 it's just a fucking scribble. I want to learn shorthand. 99 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,240 I actually got two books to learn shorthand. 100 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,520 Oh yeah, you're mentioning that. Yeah, change. 101 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,480 Jerk. I'm going to write slowly, 102 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:41,280 screen underline, boom OK I got notes less less. 103 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,000 What am I even saying? Post it notes. 104 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:48,120 It sounds like less jerk, which is you can go. 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,200 Post it notes now they're now they're in my little I got it 106 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,080 like a little blackboard desk organizer thing that's got like 107 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,320 pockets. So now I just stuck all the ones 108 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,160 that were around my desk. This is how many were around my 109 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,320 desk. By the way, for those in pocket 110 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,080 land, it's a lot. Did you try to complete any of 111 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,360 them? I'm just going to throw them all 112 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,120 away and I still got like 10 of them over here on my computer, 113 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,480 so if I didn't do it by now, I will. 114 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,040 What else you've been up to, jerk? 115 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:23,000 Just working on all of the things we put out, the two 116 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,760 things that we'll talk about. Hope is for the Dead and Under 117 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:31,520 the Skin. We're working towards Ink Vein, 118 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:37,320 which is more Borg Mega Dungeon that's going to come out to 119 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:44,240 crowdfunding in March. Working with Gustavo Foletto on 120 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:49,800 his Dungeons of Galora, which is a solo RPG based on like Aztec 121 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,480 civilizations and stuff like that, which is pretty cool. 122 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,280 Bunch of South American legends and things like that. 123 00:06:58,280 --> 00:07:00,200 So that one's going to be coming out next year. 124 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,800 We're again with Liam on his Steven Gibbs, which is a nice 125 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:12,160 little super simple tongue in cheek skirmish game where you 126 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,560 play kids or short like Hobbit characters or whatever you do. 127 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,880 You get your shortest minis and then you get your tallest minis 128 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,960 and you play the gets and you're trying to steal gold from the 129 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,000 tall ones and stuff like that. Oh yeah. 130 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,240 Yeah. And it's, it's, it's very, very, 131 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,040 very British. It's very, it's very the 132 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,440 terminology in terms are all very British, which is very fun. 133 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,240 Gits. Gits isn't a common American 134 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,640 term. I know, I know as. 135 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,320 Far as I know, it comes from across the pond. 136 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Yeah, no, I was kidding. Yeah, for sure it. 137 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,440 Was a joke. It was. 138 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,400 It was the jokes. Are there going to be minis for 139 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,560 that? Because there's another game 140 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,360 that I even want to play called Gum. 141 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,400 It's a skirmish game where you play as thieving kids, but it's 142 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,360 much darker. No, there won't be minis for 143 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,600 this. This is just going to be the 144 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,800 rule set you're you're intended to use whatever miniatures you 145 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,280 bring with you. So definitely a kept bash game. 146 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,720 So. Sick love. 147 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Good. Stuck in that camp and and love 148 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,760 the ethos loves the just the like on the forbidden Psalm 149 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,160 community. I really really, really enjoy 150 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,640 seeing all of the minis. Like right now user Tasha is 151 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,559 working on a bunch of snowmen for their game, and they were 152 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,720 showing up some clay sculpts and molds for the snowman to play, 153 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,280 like the Forbidden Psalm, Christmas adventure, holiday 154 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,400 adventures that we'll put out. So it's just great to see people 155 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,960 like crafting and stuff like that. 156 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,840 It's really cool. Makes me wish I had more time 157 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,600 for crafting myself because I've got a bunch of unfinished 158 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,920 terrain that I need to get around to and a bunch of 159 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,800 unpainted minis. So I swore I would never be the 160 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,880 unpainted minis person. But I became the unpainted minis 161 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,680 person. There's no such thing as a as a 162 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,240 as a not unpainted minis person. Everyone's got a pile, you know, 163 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,720 like, but I will say that's one thing I love about. 164 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,000 Obviously we've been doing more skirmish content here on the 165 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,960 show and probably be even more after the the change of the 166 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,520 year. But part of the draw I think is 167 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,920 exactly what you're talking about, like the DIY aspect of 168 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,320 painting and kit bashing and and sculpting. 169 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,480 All the stuff is so much fun and it feels so immersive into what 170 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,800 you're doing. So, and it also feels like you 171 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,040 have a little bit more, I don't know, sometimes feels like you 172 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,280 have more skin in the game. If you got to take the time to 173 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,120 like put the the war band together, build the thing, do 174 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,600 the thing, you know, it feels like you're, I don't know, like 175 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,760 I said, just really committing to to actually play in the 176 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,160 fucking game instead of just hoping and scheduling and then 177 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,000 rescheduling and then doing whatever. 178 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,880 So I really like that kind of, I don't know, a little bit of a 179 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:57,200 sense of urgency that it gives you or, or feeling of follow 180 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,080 through when you have to do a little bit more craft to get the 181 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,600 game up and running. So. 182 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,800 Well, and, and the really cool thing too is most of them that 183 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,720 are coming out like definitely forbidden Psalm, definitely 184 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,160 thieving gets at least the stuff that's coming out from us has 185 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,120 solo rules in it. So you're so you're, it's got 186 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,800 guidelines for you to go ahead and play the game yourself in 187 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,960 case you can't find someone else to play against, You know, or 188 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,560 you just want to, you've got a couple of hours and your 189 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:27,680 partner's not home and you just want to get your little minis on 190 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:31,880 And so you can and just run out, you know, build up a build up a 191 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,680 quick squad sheet and then play it out. 192 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,680 So. Yeah, that's fun. 193 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:41,360 And even if you don't, even if, you know, I like solo RPGs. 194 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,480 We've said this many times on the show, I like solo adventure 195 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,320 and I really like solo journaling and my brain just 196 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:51,320 doesn't game that way. But with skirmish too, most of 197 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,680 the time you only need like one other person A slight easier 198 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:57,280 than getting, you know, even a small group is like 3 people in 199 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,600 AG. Yeah, so that's nice. 200 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,800 But having the solo options are are fantastic. 201 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:07,840 So that's that's really cool. Is this going to be the is that 202 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,200 going to be this? Have you done a lot of other 203 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,040 skirmish schemes besides Forbidden Psalm through Space 204 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,320 Penguin or is this going to be the first one besides Forbidden 205 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,360 Psalm that you guys are putting out that? 206 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,320 One will be the first besides forbidden Psalm. 207 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,160 Nice. Nice. 208 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,480 Very nice. And when you said that's going 209 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,040 to be post Ink fame? That I believe it will be the 210 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,280 April release. Let me double check. 211 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,200 I don't think I've solicited it yet. 212 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,800 Beginning of Q2. Yes, it will be the April 213 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,200 release. I'm going to solicit it at the 214 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,800 beginning of January for April release, so. 215 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,200 Awesome I've. Been going back and forth with 216 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,720 Liam and Liam and Liam toner and getting the getting everything 217 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,640 all worked out so it's pretty cool. 218 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,760 Sick. And that's just going to be a 219 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,320 space picking or leasing out of crowdfund, right? 220 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,200 Correct. Sick. 221 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Lots of monthly small zenes or books. 222 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,160 It's going to be like 50 pages, so it's going to be pretty 223 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,240 hefty. Yeah, that's that's decent sized 224 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,280 book for because a lot of your monthly stuff is, you know, 35 225 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,080 to 40 ish with adventures or smaller games. 226 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,920 So that'll be sick to have a little bit of beef in April, you 227 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,840 know, some gits, gits. It's got it's got some cool art 228 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,080 and everything too, so and his kids have been helping him with 229 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,040 play testing and stuff like that so. 230 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:27,720 Save all that. Yeah. 231 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,520 And that's like a month, really, you know? 232 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:32,800 Oh yeah. God got. 233 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,480 It need a play testing team. Right. 234 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,080 Yeah, I guess I should have. No, I'm not even going to play 235 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:46,120 with that. But Speaking of monthly 236 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,240 releases, we have a couple for this month, first one because 237 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,480 the second one I think we'll talk about, you know, at at at 238 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,080 length under the skin new Mothership adventure. 239 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,360 That's the December release. Or was this the late November 240 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,240 and we're behind? That was that was November. 241 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,840 Hope is for the dead was December. 242 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,240 There we go. So, but we did that's what we 243 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,680 because we did an early N1 before this came out. 244 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:13,960 This came out like the week after something because of pass. 245 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,400 So what's up with packs and packs and shipping delays and 246 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,720 things like that? So. 247 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,400 Life stuff. Yeah, just life. 248 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,800 But tell me about under the skin. 249 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,360 What's up with with with under the skin? 250 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,120 What's under my skin? So you've got a city and you've 251 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:37,880 got, as I'm sure at this point, everyone's seen the 1982 classic 252 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,880 The Thing, right? Yeah. 253 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,400 So it's heavily inspired by The Thing. 254 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:49,560 It's one of the first examples of a space mimic that I've ever 255 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:52,280 seen. Like, it's pretty super amazing. 256 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,560 It's created by Daniel Hallinan. He also did VR Dead, which got a 257 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:01,880 nomination for Best Adversary at the Innis a couple years ago. 258 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,360 I was gonna say your dead was one of your early early space 259 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,960 pigment releases, right? Wasn't it one of your first 260 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,160 mothership releases? Yeah, it sure was. 261 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:17,800 There you go. So there's without giving away 262 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:24,160 too much the the players, the crew is is on this planet and 263 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:30,440 there's essentially one way off and that's it's kind of it's 264 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,520 kind of a murder mystery. If you've ever seen the thing, 265 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,680 it's kind of it's a mystery of like who is the thing? 266 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:40,440 Who is, who is underneath there. So again, people listening at 267 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:46,040 home, you can mute this part so that you don't get any spoilers 268 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,560 or whatever. But that's the cool thing about 269 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,200 role-playing games though, is that I can even tell you the 270 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,680 entire plot of it and you can still play that out and things 271 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,240 would happen differently at the table. 272 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,680 Absolutely. 100%. Because. 273 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:06,960 Because players. Because players they a couple of 274 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,360 things in here. First of all, got that that 275 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:15,360 chaocalypse that Brandon you aren't on the cover love Brandon 276 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,520 talked about at length in our self promo episode being one of 277 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,720 the best like community members out there. 278 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Yeah, Unstoppable. Unflappable, constantly putting 279 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,400 out and really great stuff daily. 280 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,040 I don't I don't understand people like Brandon and people 281 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:38,280 like Will who get an idea and then do it right away and then 282 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,880 it's good, which is it's that such a mind blowing thing to me. 283 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,720 But they they both they just create and it's always amazing. 284 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,240 So, you know, more power to them. 285 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,760 Other art in the book that I really like is the art from Sean 286 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:01,800 over at the the mothership team Thursday night games. 287 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,800 Why do I always say Thursday? Every fucking time. 288 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,800 Every fucking time I say Tuesday night games. 289 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,640 I will say I the new the new 1 E mothership looks fantastic and 290 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,080 the art is incredible in it. But there was something about 291 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,720 Sean's drawings and the original ones that I really liked. 292 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,280 And I really love the the drawings in this one. 293 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:30,120 The like if you saw the original mothership Alpha, you'll 294 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,600 definitely notice right away these, these guys. 295 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,640 But the pirates and the scientists look fucking 296 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,120 incredible, especially the Craig with like the the the goggles, 297 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,440 but they're all, I don't know. There's something about the way 298 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,080 that they're done is it's it's an incredible style. 299 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:48,040 I wish Sean did more art on top of, you know, running a a a, you 300 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,600 know, big company and and one of the biggest games in in the 301 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,040 small market TWG scene. But it's great. 302 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,280 I'm glad, I'm glad there's more of his stuff out there. 303 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,000 Yeah, absolutely. That picture of the dog is 304 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,160 timeless in my opinion. Yeah, that's a great one. 305 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:08,240 So yeah, also props to Daniel for riding in the dog NPC 306 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,520 essentially bored. Just going straight forward 307 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,200 because as a player, we always, we, we always love pets. 308 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,839 Like definitely love getting having a pet come on board and a 309 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:24,480 ship's dog is is choice very good. 310 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:30,280 So is is under the skin going to be put up on doesthedogdie.com 311 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,760 or? What is that? 312 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,480 It's you don't know, does a dog is it does a dog die? 313 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,240 There's a website. It's a website. 314 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,640 Does the dog die? That literally tells you, yeah, 315 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,920 it's called does the doesthedogdie.com. 316 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,560 And it lets you know if there's like animals in a movie, if the 317 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,720 animals die or not. So people can be like, I'm not 318 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,160 watching the movie if the dog ends up dying at the end. 319 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:02,040 So, so it's like, don't watch Marley and me, you know, stuff 320 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,800 like that. Spoiler alert, you just. 321 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,960 Spoiled that movie for me. I've never seen it. 322 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,000 Now it's spoiled. Yeah, crazy that you haven't 323 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,960 seen. Is that what Marley and me is? 324 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,480 Is that who's in that movie? No, it's Owen Wilson. 325 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,480 I think I'm almost positive it's Owen Wilson. 326 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,560 I was close. Yeah. 327 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:25,080 Same shit, yeah, but another another another joke that didn't 328 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,400 land. My assumption is the dog will 329 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,600 die. That's. 2 for you're, 2 for two, 330 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,320 you're O for 2:00 today. Yeah, that's OK. 331 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,640 It's the red. Laugh at some point, I promise. 332 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,520 Yeah, it's in the delivery. I think maybe a little flat 333 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,200 today, but yeah, this looks incredible. 334 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,280 You know, there there's a couple mothership adventures out there 335 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:50,600 that kind of really let you play out kind of these classic. 336 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,520 The thing's a horror movie. It's a it's a body horror slash 337 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,800 creature feature movie. Absolutely. 338 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,400 But they're I'm one of the other ones escaping. 339 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,040 What's the one that's like a three-part event? 340 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:05,480 Horizon 1. You know what I'm talking about 341 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,400 someone in the audience. I know comment if you remember 342 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,080 Meat grinder. Yeah, that one. 343 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:17,200 The wheel. And that's the first one. 344 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,000 There we go. In the first one, Yeah, but 345 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,000 that's dope. I mean that I have not seen the 346 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,600 thing. I'm going to be honest, I don't 347 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,840 think I've seen the things since I was like a teenager, so I'm 348 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,040 going to have to rewatch it and I didn't. 349 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,360 Have to watch it last year because I think it was her first 350 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:33,800 time watching it so. What did? 351 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,040 How'd she, how'd she, how'd she do with with it? 352 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,040 Great. I mean, it's an it's an amazing 353 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,400 movie. Like it's genuinely, I love John 354 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:46,840 Carpenter so. Yeah, I think that like physical 355 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,800 effects, what what's the word I'm looking for like stuff 356 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,040 that's not see, practical effects are going to hold up, 357 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,640 you know, a lot longer than. Yeah, because. 358 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,560 Yeah, I think that like it's great. 359 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,520 Yeah. The thing is older than me. 360 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,440 I think it didn't come out like early 80s, like 8283. 361 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,320 Yeah, things older than than most of the people in this chat. 362 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,160 Not me. Not you. 363 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,200 Why you got to single them out like that? 364 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,680 Not by a lot. Listen, I was at least a thought 365 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,320 maybe in 82. I was in the accident, my little 366 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,840 sister was. But that's under the skin. 367 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,920 So you said that's in November release. 368 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,840 So you can go snag that right now over on Space Finger Night 369 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,240 Inc. And obviously, you know, we'll 370 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,520 put the links below to all that and then if you enjoy it, 371 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,240 obviously, you know, VR Dead is still available on Space Finger. 372 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,800 Yeah. So you can describe all of the 373 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,080 the Daniel Hallinan hack over there. 374 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:49,000 And then the other thing, the December release is, is this bad 375 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,040 boy right here? Yeah, you got the hard cover 376 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,360 too. I did. 377 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:56,760 Of course I did. I got and for those in Pop 378 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,160 Castle. And what I held up was two books 379 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,560 that say Hope is for the dead on the front. 380 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,360 So what the heck is hope for? Is for the dead. 381 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:08,520 Skirmish miniatures, infection scenario, post apocalypse. 382 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,800 So you can just go ahead and say the word zombies because there's 383 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:21,720 a bunch of them in there from Will and just it's the cleanest 384 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,120 one. It's the slimmest one that we've 385 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:33,440 put out thus far, and all of all of Bill's art and Boris's art 386 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,440 throughout the thing are amazing. 387 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,640 So yeah, really, really just brings it home. 388 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Are you showing some of the art? I was so I was showing me 389 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,440 because I didn't switch to the screen. 390 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,600 But now I am. Now I'm scrolling to some of it. 391 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,480 Let's scroll through. You said this is the thin one. 392 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,280 This is. This is a pretty beefy one. 393 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,480 This book is 112 pages. Yeah. 394 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,160 It's it's smaller than smaller than other forbidden Psalm 395 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,760 titles. Yeah, yeah, dude, Phil's, Phil's 396 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,560 art is is fucking crazy. I got a chance to look at some 397 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,000 more of their stuff that some people might see eventually, and 398 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,520 it's just incredible. And the stuff that they do with 399 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,200 Will and that's a match made in heaven too. 400 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,240 That's like a that's like a Spielberg and or not Scorsese 401 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,040 and Leo kind of thing. You know, Will and Bill together 402 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:35,520 just because one of the last ones he did was endless horror 403 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,480 between the stars. Right. 404 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,840 Yeah. Perfect. 405 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,360 What was that for? That's a great. 406 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:42,560 That was a that was good. That was a great thing with the 407 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,040 Scorsese in the in the thing. Yeah, it was good. 408 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,760 They're just like them. It's exactly the same. 409 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,840 DiCaprio, come on. Hey, you know, the guy did 410 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,000 eventually get an Oscar. He did. 411 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,320 For a movie he may not have got, should have gotten it for and 412 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,080 then missed it. For a bunch of movies he should 413 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,200 have gotten it for? So. 414 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,960 You know, sometimes you just get a lifetime achievement Oscar at 415 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,440 like, what, 35 or whatever he is. 416 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,600 And you said that there is art that is not bills, Boris. 417 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,960 Yeah, Boris Monsell, I just had the page up. 418 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,240 Maybe page 85? Ryan, are you supposed to be 419 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,000 showing the stream these pages right now? 420 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,320 Yes. Because you're not so. 421 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,720 I am, maybe it's frozen for you because I can see the stream. 422 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,800 Now we're moving. Am I, am I like super behind? 423 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,520 Maybe I'm watching twitch? I'm watching Twitch and I'm 424 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,520 watching our stream and I'm watching our stream. 425 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,240 So I'll wave to myself. Let's see how long. 426 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,360 Oh, I'm super lagged out. I'm super behind. 427 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,920 I don't know. Yeah, bro, you give me a heart 428 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,000 attack for a second there. I was like, fuck. 429 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,680 Well, I guess we're redoing the whole episode, but but yeah, 430 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,040 wasn't there also, am I wrong? We're talking about the Boris 431 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,480 art. Like I said, I think maybe page 432 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,800 85 yeah, talk about this in a second. 433 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,560 But that that page is also incredible. 434 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,760 Yes, it's. Amazing. 435 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,360 Yeah, and there's, there's pictures of minis in it and man, 436 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:17,920 it's making me rethink a lot of things. 437 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,680 And tokens in the back, tokens in the front. 438 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,120 The PDF, literally the the cover of the PDF is literally a page 439 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:28,400 of tokens. So we're not missing the tokens 440 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:34,160 this time, but also this little this little slip right here. 441 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,520 Tell us about this little slip of paper I got here. 442 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,920 So that was that came about because of some great user 443 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:50,320 feedback that happened after we published the, the digital was 444 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,200 pushed out to backers and stuff like that. 445 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,160 And we had some users say that it was pretty hard. 446 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,080 It is one of the harder for bitten psalms because you've got 447 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:04,000 a noise mechanic that makes more zombies spawn at the end of each 448 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,480 turn. So if, if you can effectively be 449 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,080 overrun, like every scenario that you, you're, you're playing 450 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,240 right? That's like baked into the 451 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,800 mechanics, you know, a last, last person standing sort of 452 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:22,840 situation. So we'll wrote up those 453 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,760 alternate rules to tweak the difficulty and those rules can 454 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,480 actually be applied to like all the forbidden Psalms, which is 455 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,160 pretty cool. Like with some tweaks in the 456 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,040 verbiage a little bit. I know they've made their 457 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,520 appearance in the Forbidden Dark, which is the forthcoming 458 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,840 Run from the Forbidden Psalm version of Run from the Dark. 459 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,880 So. Cool. 460 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,640 And it just helps out with making things like a little bit 461 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,560 easier or harder. Like there's also options for 462 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,120 making it harder too, if you feel like really putting the 463 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:01,720 crunch on yourself. So like, if you're just, if 464 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,920 you're that good and tactically on top of things, you can 465 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,800 actually make the game crunchier. 466 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,960 That's definitely I I like those options to to to have different 467 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,400 difficulties because I'm definitely, you know, when I 468 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,920 play, I don't play a ton of video games. 469 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,600 Hunter is definitely the video gamer of of us too. 470 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,080 But I definitely just go for like whatever basic ass 471 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,000 difficulty is because I just want to play the game and maybe 472 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,680 have a little bit of challenge. But people that immediately go 473 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,640 right to like ultra death mode or whatever when they start a 474 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,040 game, you know, more power to you. 475 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:41,760 Proud of you I guess. But besides the noise mechanic, 476 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,720 is there any other big adjustments in Help Us for the 477 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,440 Dead as opposed to some of the other ones like Last War or kill 478 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,840 system process or anything? So normally in FP books, there 479 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,400 are scenarios that you go to there, there's and they're like 480 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,400 numbered like an order because they get increasingly difficult 481 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,920 as you go. In this one, you're playing out 482 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:08,840 two seasons of or Four Seasons of the year, so you can possibly 483 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,360 visit the same location, but there are rules for altering it 484 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:16,200 if it's in year 1 or year 2, right? 485 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,840 So you there is actually more, more and more difficult and 486 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,520 different zombies that are overrunning these places and 487 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,400 items and weapons and stuff are different or more scarce, 488 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:35,680 usually more scarce. So yeah, that's the biggest, 489 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,560 that's the biggest difference is it's still scenario based, but 490 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,040 it's but you do do it at different times. 491 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:48,480 And then so since you're playing all Four Seasons, Will wrote in 492 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,880 there like weather events like and thing events and stuff like 493 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,080 that. So some of some of it's the 494 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,160 weather, some of it's like bandits or animals. 495 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,400 He wrote a quick D6 table for each of those seasons so you can 496 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,880 add a little bit more flavor to your game as well. 497 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:14,080 So, and then there are weapon upgrades and, and making your 498 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,560 own weapons out of stuff. So where you combine like items 499 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,320 with a, you know, with a specific item with a specific 500 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,600 gun gives you a specific special gun and things like that. 501 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,840 Where's the upgrade section? 78. 502 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,160 Oh I'm talking about 82 the mash up weapons where you take like 503 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,160 where you make flaming death where you take a weapon and add 504 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,040 whiskey to it and that adds burn property to the weapon. 505 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,920 That's awesome. Things like that, like and then 506 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,440 like you make like the return to Cinder you it's a one handed 507 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,880 melee weapon plus cloth. So it works. 508 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,320 Then the weapon works like a boomerang so you can so you can 509 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,320 throw it. So perfect, right? 510 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,000 This is yeah, I like, I really like the campaign aspect of it 511 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:16,320 where whatever you're doing is on top of this structure that's 512 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,320 laid out for you, which is really, really cool. 513 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:25,040 And you can always kind of fall back onto the campaign stuff to 514 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,120 keep it moving forward if you survive or, you know, go through 515 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,600 like a list of of of survivors. But. 516 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,280 And I like the year 3 onwards part where especially like 517 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,720 here's how to keep going if you want to keep going. 518 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,540 But this game is also probably the closest to like quote UN 519 00:29:44,540 --> 00:29:48,800 quote modern times of all the forbidden psalms, right 'cause 520 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,520 last war is post apocalypse. But like, you know, World War 521 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,920 1:00-ish and kill sample process is like the future and, and 522 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,000 everything. But that's that's neat. 523 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,480 I think that's really the kid bashing in this I feel is going 524 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,720 to be crazy with the amount of stuff you can bring into it and 525 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:15,000 across the years and things. But but that's neat. 526 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,640 I'm excited, man. I'm going to get any of these to 527 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,920 the table. Hunter, remember when we were 528 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,400 doing like a last war war band, we did one thing and said we 529 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,040 were going to keep Bash and we haven't done anything for it 530 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,240 since. Yeah, man. 531 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,120 We should work on that. We should, we should, we should. 532 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,800 We should get on that. And yeah. 533 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,640 Those are after the first of the year we'll. 534 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,880 Actually start doing that again. Yeah, I need to get that like 535 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,280 little tool kit you sent me that has the Clippers and the 536 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,080 adhesive and stuff or not, you know, the non adhesive adhesive. 537 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,560 Oh yeah, just get the Tamia, Tamia and Tamia and the Tamia 538 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,840 and the Mia. Yeah, Tamia Clippers and the and 539 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,920 the the the stuff. But yeah, this is so this is 540 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,800 hope. It's for the dead. 541 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,840 This is currently out available because mine was mine were 542 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,680 Kickstarter ones. So. 543 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,640 It's available. It's been available since the 544 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,160 middle of the month so. So you can go grab Hope is for 545 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,720 the Dead now and then. So you know, for a while now you 546 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,040 stop doing the monthly small releases of forbidden Psalm 547 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,600 stuff. But what's the future of 548 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,040 forbidden Psalm currently, right now? 549 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,640 So Run from the Dark is back to my editing desk, and that's an 550 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,080 RPG. That one will be getting final 551 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,280 proofreading in the next week or so. 552 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,400 Along with that is Forbidden Dark, which is the forbidden 553 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,240 Psalm version of that one. That one was edited up and 554 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,280 that's out with that play test right now. 555 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,200 So really excited for that. And then will is hard at work on 556 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,320 Legitimate Salvage, which is spaceships. 557 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,360 So legitimate. Legitimate salvage is the name 558 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,840 of the rule set and Project Tomorrow is the first ship that 559 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,040 you go to. He's got Ville back on art for 560 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,640 that one, so that one is going to be even more stellar. 561 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,480 And yeah, he's been. Will has been hard at work 562 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,120 bashing that sucker out, so I fully expect that one to hit the 563 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,080 editing desk sometime in February. 564 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,480 So I think he's going to do a March release to crowdfund for 565 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,160 that one. And that one's going to be kind 566 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,040 of bigger because it's going to be 3 books. 567 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,120 It might be 3 books total together. 568 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,240 They won't be as big because the the rules themselves will be in 569 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,680 one and then Mara will be in another one and then there might 570 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,080 be something else in the third one. 571 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,080 So. It's awesome. 572 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,840 I remember, I remember we'll talk about legitimate salvage 573 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,360 and Project Mario like way back, like I think around like last 574 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,800 war times. That was something that was on 575 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,800 the plate. So it's really awesome to see 576 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,160 because I've seen them posting about it. 577 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,520 I've already saved the Kickstarter backer kit. 578 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,320 Whichever one I just clicked, I just clicked whatever it was so 579 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,000 I could know. But the graphics already all 580 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,480 look awesome, which of course they do because it's well and 581 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,120 really, really excited for that. And excited to get Forbidden 582 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,240 Dark as well, because we ran Run from the Dark on the show. 583 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,960 Super fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 584 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,200 We, we got AAP. We did. 585 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,280 We, we all survived. We talked to, was it a goat? 586 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,120 Didn't we piss on a goat? Did it go piss on us or 587 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,000 something? And and then we burned down like 588 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,000 a mushroom village. You fought the infection? 589 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,480 The the Yeah, Corfed. I can't remember the actual term 590 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,440 for him. Yeah, that was fun. 591 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,000 We got to talk to Will again. They said maybe they when it 592 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,640 when it releases, releases maybe we'll come on and and extend 593 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,320 that adventure again. That'd. 594 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,160 Be super fun to do. But I really I'm really excited 595 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:49,200 to see what the what will does with forbidden Psalming it 596 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,480 because the book it's a beefy fucking book. 597 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,400 I know you have a copy. I have a copy. 598 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,200 It is not small. It's like a 6 by 9 and you know, 599 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,880 it's it's it's got some inches on it. 600 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,360 I'm really curious what how forbidden Psalm is going to. 601 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,560 Definitely stripped it back a little bit. 602 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,960 The instead of feats and flaws like in a normal forbidden 603 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,840 Psalm, you've got class features like you had and Run from the 604 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,320 Dark. So you've got each each 605 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,880 character class has a character or has a feature. 606 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,400 I'm sorry. And so yeah, the character 607 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,560 creation is a little bit more stripped back and but it still 608 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:35,480 has the, I want to say 12 scenarios in it, maybe 14. 609 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,600 Damn. There's a lot. 610 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,679 There's a lot. I still again, I'm I'm never 611 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,159 going to understand how how Will's able to put out as much 612 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,719 as they do. And and it'd be this good like 613 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,800 every time I don't. And he's got like other stuff in 614 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,400 life. Like if, if he did this 24/7 and 615 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,040 didn't have to sleep, maybe I would understand. 616 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,720 But the fact that that he does sleep and has, you know, other 617 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,240 obligations outside of this and yet it still all gets done. 618 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,400 We'll we'll boggle my mind to the day I die. 619 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,640 It's crazy. But, you know, some people just 620 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,640 get that dog in them, you know? Yeah. 621 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,800 Yes, I'm trying to count the number of scenarios in this. 622 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,840 Exactly like that. Exactly like that. 623 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,280 I got that dog in me brother. Oh, you didn't have the dog in 624 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,800 him? Was Jake Paul really not? 625 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:40,280 There's 15 scenarios in, yeah, and it's clocking in at 112 626 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,600 pages as well, so. Nice, nice. 627 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,160 Slim little volume like I think they're going to be great 628 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,000 companion volumes to each other for Run from the Dark and 629 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,320 Forbidden Dark because that way if you want to play out of 630 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,920 combat, you can actually. It's all the shit there is there 631 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,400 for you to skirmish out of combat if that's what you feel 632 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,360 like you want to do this time. So you can spend a session RPG 633 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,000 ING and then you can spend a session skirmishing if you 634 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,560 really want to. Yeah, I think that's one of the 635 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,800 under sung things about those coming out together. 636 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,240 I think people are really going to dig them together. 637 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,640 Well, that's, I mean, that's one thing that you've been able to 638 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,880 do with Forbidden Psalm, like the original one a lot too. 639 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,760 And that's one of the reasons we even talked about on the show, 640 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,480 which is really cool that we went from that to this this much 641 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,400 later, is that it's a game that you can just play as ATRBG if 642 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,240 you want. The stats are there, 643 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,920 everything's there if you want. But I've been able to hop in a 644 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,040 skirmish and obviously again, we're getting a little skirmish 645 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:46,240 peeled, But I, I, I wish more games kind of did do a more like 646 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,840 stark jump in systems, because you get a lot of games out there 647 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,320 that are kind of frameworks and the roles for this are the same 648 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,680 as the roles for that and the roles for combat. 649 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,800 Or you get games like, you know, 5 E, which are it kind of gives 650 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,960 you something a little different for combat kind of. 651 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,240 But it's like this middle ground that doesn't give you enough of 652 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,920 either gives you too much or not enough for you to do your own 653 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,480 thing. But I would love to see a game 654 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,280 that's like, here's when you're doing this stuff, but when you 655 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,320 hit combat, here's an entirely new fucking thing, which jumping 656 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,360 into something like skirmish would do that. 657 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,160 So it'd be cool to see that. And I guess we're going to get 658 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,040 see that more with Run from the Dark, because we fought stuff in 659 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,520 Run from the Dark and it wasn't Skirmish. 660 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,760 But being able to hop into something like the the Mushroom 661 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,480 City when there's like a ton of dudes all closing in on us and 662 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,160 actually being able to like skirmish that around like a 663 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,240 burning fucking Mushroom City would be so dope. 664 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,360 Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. 665 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,160 Hell yeah, brother. Do you know when that is 666 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,800 actually planning to to come out all the run from the dark stuff 667 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,760 and for been dark? They're in process right now. 668 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,080 Like I said, Run from the Dark. Just got back to my editing desk 669 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,120 for last weeks and then Forbidden Dark is out at play 670 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,880 test and that will probably get another check pass on it as 671 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,680 well. So I think Will's trying to go 672 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,080 to print in January for these, so you can get them fulfilled 673 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,880 pretty quickly, so. Yeah, going to be taken 674 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,000 legitimate salvage. Look for February, March release 675 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,200 or fulfillment. I think that's when we're trying 676 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,080 to, we're planning for it. So just depends on lives and 677 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,080 schedules, yeah. What's the usual turn around? 678 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,920 I know we've probably talked about this on the show before, 679 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:36,680 but when you guys do crowd funds like Cantu E, like like run from 680 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,600 the Dark, I know you're doing the the distribution for that. 681 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,480 What's the general turn around from fulfillment to release to 682 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,160 the general public usually? Usually we try to get them out 683 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,120 as we're trying to shrink that amount of time and get it 684 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,520 closer. It really just depends. 685 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,880 A lot of that is on logistics here at Space Penguin as far as 686 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,440 like we've on some of them, we've waited a couple of months 687 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:11,400 and also factors into our ACD, our distribution arm and how 688 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,400 things go because we try to get them. 689 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,040 I try to time out when things hit distro at the same time 690 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,240 they're available for release for us because we want stuff to 691 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:23,520 be in the store. So you can go to your friendly 692 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,960 local game store and pick it up or you can come to our website 693 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:31,480 and pick it up and so that it's a three month solicit cycle. 694 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:35,160 So you kind of have to do that three months out and then you 695 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,920 don't know are you going to be completely finished with 696 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,880 fulfillment for X by that time, like Hope is for the Dead had to 697 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,400 wait a month. It was available from Will Store 698 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:49,600 in the UK but from US it was an extra month release because we 699 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,440 were trying to wait for it to be able to release the stores at 700 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,520 the same time, so. Interesting. 701 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:59,080 Yeah. And then I mean kind of 702 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,880 segwaying into that. So 2025 what? 703 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,160 What, what year is this for Space Penguin? 704 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,520 I think this is year 3. This is the end of year three. 705 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,120 You're starting year 4. The end. 706 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,680 The summertime is our birth date, so we're like halfway 707 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,680 through year 3. Halfway through year three. 708 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,440 Wow. How was how? 709 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,520 How was 2025? How you feeling in December 710 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,880 2025? Pretty good. 711 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,800 We've got Luminal Horror Deluxe getting ready to go to print 712 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,440 soon. That's coming off our plate. 713 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,000 We've got Ink Vein, which is our next big one that we're looking 714 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,920 to push out. Of course working with Will on 715 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,360 all of his stuff. Of course, you know, our monthly 716 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,720 new releases and things like that. 717 00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:44,080 Like we might take, we might skip a couple of months on new 718 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,400 releases in 2026. Justin, kind of space things out 719 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,360 a little bit more. It really depends on what comes 720 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,560 in. Mothership is moving pretty 721 00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:02,680 well, but it's a matter of your friendly local editor me editing 722 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,960 Reese Carter's next Mothership thing and trying to find some 723 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,320 time to actually get in there and help him develop that into a 724 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,720 stellar thing. So, and then we have, you know, 725 00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:17,120 regulars that we that we publish, like Daniel Hallinan, 726 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,600 you know, like I'm hoping he gets sometimes because I mean, 727 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,840 people, some people know, some people don't know. 728 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,080 He actually is the logistics behind Tuesday Night Games, so 729 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:32,480 he handles all of that stuff. So him working, doing the 730 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,800 logistics stuff and then creating on the side is stellar. 731 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,520 So looking forward to that, looking forward to having some 732 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,960 new care and stuff next year. Looking forward to, you know, 733 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,240 just supporting the supporting the lines that we support and 734 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,960 making sure that we're putting out banger stuff every time. 735 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,880 So yeah. And I like I said, I think we're 736 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,640 just going to take a little bit of extra time next year, so. 737 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,680 Very cool. Gotcha. 738 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,800 Well, I mean you levelled up. It's funny when we go back, when 739 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,320 I go back and like watch on the episode time times or or or 740 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,600 remember some of the stuff we talked about. 741 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,320 And because I remember at one point you were like, we're not 742 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,360 really going to do a lot of crowdfunding and then suddenly 743 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,040 there was like big crowdfund, big crowdfund, big crowdfunding. 744 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,600 So it's really cool to see that, especially with the like you 745 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,800 said, the the major lines you guys have, which are like 746 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,200 liminal horror is doing incredible and getting bigger 747 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,040 and better. Forbidden Psalm is just going to 748 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,480 keep coming out like crazy. Karen Tui Mothership are those 749 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,760 kind of like your 4 horsemen right there is like your primary 750 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,480 lines to keep doing stuff. I mean that's fucking that alone 751 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,640 is an insane catalog, like some of the best games that are that 752 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,840 are putting stuff out right now. So that's that's crazy that you 753 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:50,360 guys have all of us. Yeah, it when the deluxe drops 754 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,320 for Liminal Horror too, and then you can stick that next like the 755 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,680 Karen 2E box, like that's going to feel really fucking good 756 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,800 because both those Kickstarters went fucking crazy. 757 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:04,120 So yeah. Stoked. 758 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,000 Yeah, yeah, so cool. Any, any other big? 759 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,400 So do you do you do like you said, we're halfway through year 760 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,360 3. So in the summer, is that when 761 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,880 you sit down and go, OK, this is a plan for year 4 or what do you 762 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,000 generally like How, how? How do you constantly evolving? 763 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,160 Like constantly every day evolving. 764 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,920 Like being on top of stuff every day and pushing stuff through 765 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,960 the machine. So now I've got stuff scoped out 766 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,200 till probably the end of next year right now. 767 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,480 So but it just everything just changes. 768 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,640 It changes because of the creative cycle, because of the 769 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,040 folks that we work with. Like we're more, we're more 770 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,200 concerned with putting out a good thing than we are with 771 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,480 putting out a thing. So. 772 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,440 Nice, that's a probably a good policy. 773 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,600 Yeah. Oh, Mothership Month 2, 774 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,200 obviously, since you're like the editor for Mothership, how, how, 775 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,760 how's all that going as far as like, how was that to do another 776 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,200 huge month of all the Mothership stuff on top of a big, big 777 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:17,080 release? For our part, for, well, for our 778 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,120 part at Space Penguin, we have bombs bursting in air, which is 779 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,640 has gone through second, second draft editing and is now being 780 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,160 worked on and layout. The music's being worked on. 781 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,400 All the art is finished, I believe. 782 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,840 So we're just waiting on pushing that out the door. 783 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,400 That'll be early next year. Fulfillment as well. 784 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,520 The patches are ordered. They're on the way. 785 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,560 Should be delivered pretty soon, which is pretty cool. 786 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,760 And then, yeah, aside from some digital deliverables that would 787 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,840 that you are going to take a little bit of extra time, but 788 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,880 we're going to have the physical in people's hands, which is 789 00:44:53,880 --> 00:45:01,720 pretty neat. And then I worked on Wages of 790 00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:06,880 Sin, which was the one that the previous one that that one is 791 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,880 almost, that one's almost a print. 792 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,960 So that one's getting close. And then the new stuff, Luke is 793 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,960 in process of writing the new stuff. 794 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,440 I didn't really edit. I'm going to do some 795 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,720 developmental work on one project, but I didn't really 796 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:26,200 jump in feet first and do a bunch of editing for a bunch of 797 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,400 people, just do the time constraints and things like 798 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:35,120 that. So but yeah, from what I 799 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,200 understand. So our part in MMM 25 was pretty 800 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:44,760 minimal aside from our campaign. From what I understand, people 801 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,760 had a blast playing over under though. 802 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,800 It was like a major hit. So for those who don't know, 803 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:55,520 Over Under was a meta game with 1000 plus players played across 804 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,960 Prospero's Dream, the location from a pound of flesh, and it 805 00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:02,880 involved a bunch of faction bosses and factions fighting 806 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,320 each other and all kinds of weird and wacky shit. 807 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,600 You'd have to look it up to try to figure out what it is because 808 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:14,200 it was actually happening at the time of the campaign and it it 809 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,320 just, I don't know. Sam Sorensen's ideas are 810 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,080 fabulous. And having played in the first 811 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,800 Cataphrax game, I was the first person to die in Cataphrax, 812 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,320 which is pretty epic. It was super fun. 813 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,080 I stayed out of playing over Under just again, due to time 814 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,840 constraints and not being able to give it its justice. 815 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,560 But from what I understand, everyone had a really amazing 816 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,960 time so. Yeah, I know there's some some 817 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,040 blog posts and I think even some podcast episodes out there for 818 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,000 people looking to to read about it. 819 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,320 I know Meat Castle didn't shut up about it. 820 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,120 He was he was glowing every day about how cool it was. 821 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,560 So I'm glad that people had a really good time with that. 822 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,280 I I also did not jump in on that. 823 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,400 I but it seemed, it seemed to go extremely well. 824 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,320 So I'm excited to, to hear more of what went on with that. 825 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,240 So I'm sure you can just hop on blue sky for those curious and 826 00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:08,080 search over under and you'll get plenty of podcasts and, and 827 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,600 breakdowns for it. But but yeah, so that's, that's 828 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,560 2025. That's, that's Space Penguin Inc 829 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,480 2025. I think we got what, at least 10 830 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,240 or 11 episodes? I think we only missed one or 831 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:23,120 two, right. Yeah, crazy. 832 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:23,960 Good job. Everyone. 833 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,160 We're going to have to do something crazy for like episode 834 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,520 25 or something, Something interesting something. 835 00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:32,840 All three of us, just like a battle Royale, you know, in 836 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,920 person. In person, we got to get 837 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,240 together. We have to fly and meet in the 838 00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:40,000 middle somewhere and actually get together. 839 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,040 But but yeah, jerk. Thanks for coming on. 840 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,120 As always, thanks for spending. Thanks for having me. 2025 with 841 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,280 us almost every single month. Excited for 2026. 842 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,360 Excited for everything that's coming out for Space Penguin. 843 00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,360 Yeah, woo, woo. Good shit, good shit people, 844 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,080 good. Shit, good shit, good shit. 845 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,800 All right, that's going to be us for today. 846 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,880 Catch us next month. And we're going to keep doing 847 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,480 this until Dirt doesn't like us anymore. 848 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,920 So we will see you all later. Bye.