1 00:00:14,750 --> 00:00:16,830 Hello and welcome to Weekly Scroll Podcast. 2 00:00:16,830 --> 00:00:19,390 My name is Ryan. And I'm just here to count the 3 00:00:19,390 --> 00:00:24,070 tangents. My name is Jared and I'm the 4 00:00:24,070 --> 00:00:27,910 guest star. And and today, you know, Jared's 5 00:00:27,910 --> 00:00:30,270 here. We're doing a not cat chat here 6 00:00:30,270 --> 00:00:33,390 on Weekly Scroll. And as always, I have no fucking 7 00:00:33,390 --> 00:00:37,760 number which one it is 13, like a #1312. 8 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:41,320 I feel like, I feel like it's one of those two. 9 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,680 But yeah, Dirt's here. Space Penguin. 10 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,880 As always, our monthly episode are not cat chats here. 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,360 I was just talking to Hunter while you were running. 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,720 Go get coffee. We seem to have fallen into this 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:01:00,520 kind of routine of random shit for like 20 to 30 minutes. 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,080 It's a completely usually non teacher related topic and then 15 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,440 transition to TTRPGS and a lot of times the topic comes from us 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,320 bullshitting at the beginning, but we're not talking about that 17 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:13,520 stuff. So how do you feel about sumo? 18 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,800 I noticed you have a pretty cool shirt on. 19 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,480 Take a refugee baby. I've is is that a legendary 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,320 person in the? No, they're current. 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,000 They're they're a current person in the world of sumo. 22 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,320 Yeah. Very cool. 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I listen, Jared. 24 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,040 If you have any questions just go to our discord and go to the 25 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,880 SUMO channel, of which there isn't. 26 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,040 There's a sumo channel on your discord. 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,360 Oh yeah, there is a big sumo guy. 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,880 I'm a big sumo guy. I love sumo. 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,960 Sumo's great. I feel like my 2 sports and all 30 00:01:45,960 --> 00:01:48,680 you have to do is get in a sumo and then we'll match our our 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,880 European soccer, European football, specifically Liverpool 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,280 and then everybody else and then sumo. 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,000 And I genuinely pretty much just despise American sports now 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,080 because it's a bunch of generally overpaid and terrible 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:07,720 people just getting paid tons of money to have the companies that 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,480 run it do corrupt bullshit and rig everything anyway so. 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,240 But I mean, that's just me. Are you saying that the sports 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:21,200 are rigged over here? You know I was. 39 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,120 Yelling I was yelling at the TV the other day because they I'm a 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,800 card Saint Louis baseball Cardinals fan and I love the 41 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:31,160 baseball Cardinals and I watch a lot of baseball. 42 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:37,680 And they were posting like clips of like Mark McGwire like, and 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,000 I'm just like, come on, man. The dude totally admitted to 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,480 fucking rocking the roids for a long time. 45 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,200 Like, how much of his career, you know, even though he was 46 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,240 like an integral part of, you know, most of a decade, I think 47 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,760 he played for Saint Louis eight years or something like still 48 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,440 like. I just want to let you guys know 49 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,120 that every single professional American like athlete has been 50 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,440 on gear for at least some amount of time. 51 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:07,200 I think. I think a percentage for sure, 52 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,520 but I don't think all of them. But I will say for baseball 53 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,120 wise, it's hard when you talk about the steroids era because 54 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,640 it saved baseball and baseball knew exactly what was going on 55 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:24,520 and only started busting people when it when it broke 56 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,880 containment. You know, if if it slowly kind 57 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,920 of faded away, baseball knew exactly who was doing what the 58 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:37,320 whole time they were doing it. So I do I, I don't have a lot of 59 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,040 problem with Mark McGuire. I don't have a lot of problem 60 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,640 with a lot of the other people. Barry Bonds obviously is 1 I 61 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,320 have the biggest problem with because he was the most obvious 62 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,440 one. The dude. 63 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,520 He gains like pretty obvious. His head size double S at 40, 64 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,640 but to this day refuses to to admit that he was doing. 65 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,080 You know it's called juice. It's called moon jaw actually. 66 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,640 So what happened was his jaw size because he was on gear 67 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,280 tried to get more and more round his the moon. 68 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,280 Face. Yeah, Moon face, whatever, Yeah. 69 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,400 Yeah, yeah, but it actually like, but his whole head, his 70 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,560 whole no like his head like. His head size, that's just 71 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,160 because he got smarter. So yeah. 72 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,240 That's exactly what. You're talking about smart and 73 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,880 your your brain gets bigger. We all know it's how it works. 74 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,120 But I mean, and then I was a basketball fan for a long time, 75 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,600 but I'm going to be honest, after the NBA stepped in to veto 76 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,840 the Chris Paul to the Lakers trade after New Orleans and 77 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:32,840 everything, I was like, like, come on, you, you, I know there 78 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:37,040 were stewards of the team at the time, but it was so it was so 79 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,040 bad. It was so bad for basketball. 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,200 I don't even the trade might have been just as bad, but the 81 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,960 fact that the NBA could step in and like override a decision 82 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,880 that two teams made was ridiculous to me. 83 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,800 Football is literally just like, hey, we heard you beat your 84 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,200 spouse. Like here's another $100 million 85 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,320 contract. Yeah, so. 86 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,120 Listen, I'm actually pro responsible steroid use in in 87 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,800 sports. I I think like, you know, if you 88 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,520 do under a doctor's supervision, you're taking your anti Astros. 89 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,720 I want to see you destroy a ball and knock into outer space. 90 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,080 That sounds fucking sick. You know, I don't care if your 91 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,160 heart size increases slowly over time, you'll be fine, you know? 92 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,360 I don't know how I feel about that if everybody, grown adults 93 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,680 can do whatever they want to do and if everyone's agreed to be 94 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,200 on a play, on a level playing field, whatever. 95 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,840 So why I like sumo and why you should get in a sumo jerk is 96 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:33,200 because it's been around in some way, shape or form for over 1000 97 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,880 years and is deeply steeped in tradition and honor to the point 98 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,520 where like if you were the the Yokozuna like the highest ranked 99 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,840 guy and you like dishonor the sport in any way, they will 100 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:46,600 force you to retire like the next day. 101 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:49,920 So there's been times where like the yokozuna gets too drunk at a 102 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,480 bar and like gets in a fight with somebody literally the next 103 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,600 day. He's like in front of cameras 104 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,600 being like, all right, sorry, I've dishonored all of Japan and 105 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,320 the empire sport of sumo. I am retired. 106 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,360 I'm out now like. I just imagined if, if American 107 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,560 sports did that, like American sports pay like especially like 108 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,760 football players chip, they're paid millions and millions. 109 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:11,040 Imagine if they had to hold up like a code of like respect and 110 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,320 honor to keep playing. We'd lose chunks of the league. 111 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,280 I think they've gotten better in more recent years, but like 112 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,880 there's been some pretty fucking egregious fucking monsters 113 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:22,680 playing football. But. 114 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:26,920 This is true. Speaking of the football. 115 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaking of the other football, Congrats for Liverpool for 116 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,680 winning the league. We haven't seen each other since 117 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,360 we won the league, which is great. 118 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,240 We haven't. Yeah, so and also Crystal 119 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:40,960 Palace, but I like this. This whole episode is just 120 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,040 sports chatting. That's fine. 121 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Wait no, the just our just our normal random tangent to start 122 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,400 the episode and then we'll get to the regular one. 123 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,520 But God, I will never not cringe every time I just hear the words 124 00:06:53,520 --> 00:07:00,200 Crystal Palace. Like no matter what the. 125 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,240 But yeah, they won the league. I think last time we were on 126 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,360 they needed like two more wins or something and then Arsenal 127 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,960 kind of shit the bed towards the end anyway. 128 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:13,040 So it worked. And this is, this is #20. 2020. 129 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,640 Ties. It ties Manchester United for 130 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,440 the most ever, right? Yeah, yeah. 131 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,000 And where did where did man You Were end up? 132 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,960 They're in 17th. They're like right above the 133 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,080 drop road or Spurs is 17th, They're 16th or 17th. 134 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,360 They're right above the drop zone. 135 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,760 Can you imagine if man you ever got relegated? 136 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,320 And it would be, it would be a it would be a sporting nightmare 137 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,200 for so many fans. It'd be, I mean, good, good on 138 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,720 them you. Know, I mean, good on them, 139 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,360 yeah. But. 140 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,920 So what about Crystal Palace? Just the words Crystal Palace 141 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,840 together. I think it was that was it the 142 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,200 same season that remember what year was it? 143 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,640 It was it was the first time that they kind of took a run at 144 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,680 the championship with Klopp and we're doing well and then had 145 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,080 that like 5 or 6 game run at the end of the season where 146 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,720 everything fucking went wrong. They when they the. 147 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,640 Wonder One. 3 Nothing. Yeah, yeah, literally it was 148 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,280 like that was like the nail of the coffin where it was like, 149 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,280 we're going to get it and then Crystal Palace beats us 3. 150 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,400 Nothing. You're like, fuck. 151 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,440 Actually, I think they just knocked us out of like, 152 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,960 numerical contention. So, yeah, yeah. 153 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,400 They they won the FA Cup yesterday by beating Manchester 154 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,240 City. Yes, there's they're Crystal 155 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:40,000 Palace's first competitive trophy in 133 years or something 156 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,480 like that. Congratulations, Crystal Palace 157 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,960 fans out there. My friend, my friend Jay's My 158 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,000 friend Jay's partner is a huge Palace fan and she was really 159 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,960 ecstatic yesterday so. It's really interesting, like 160 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,800 thinking about European sports versus American sports just 161 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,040 because of the size, because obviously like America is too 162 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,280 fucking big. That's how the problem in this 163 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,160 country is this too fucking big. It should be like 4 different 164 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,800 countries, but like in especially in England looking at 165 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,520 like football and football stadiums and stuff because 166 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,480 they're so fucking mini. Like outside of even like the 167 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,320 all of like the FA, like the 200 something that are in there. 168 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,680 There's even more so like you can literally just like drive 169 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:24,680 like 30 minutes and have like a whole new group of fans versus 170 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:27,960 like the America where it's literally like you could drive 6 171 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,000 hours to the next state before you really run into, you know, a 172 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,800 whole nother group of people, which is crazy. 173 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,920 Yeah, yeah, Driving through Kansas. 174 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,920 Yeah, what's what's, what's your sports ball of choice, Hunter? 175 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,720 Oh, none of them. You should start watching sumo 176 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:50,640 bro. There's no there I. 177 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:52,880 Should I should watch sumo? I still watch some rock climbing 178 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,520 here and there. I saw the last real rock 179 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:57,600 release. It was cool. 180 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,040 It's fine. I was in like, you know, there 181 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,600 are a couple of like, you know, it's, it's like 4 or it was 230 182 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,680 minute videos like mini documentaries and then one like 183 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:10,360 hour long one. And to be honest, I haven't 184 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,640 finished the one hour long one, but I finished the two 30s and 185 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,040 they're pretty interesting. I mean, 1 is like you're very 186 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:20,120 traditional, a bunch of like northern Europeans, dude, climb 187 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,400 a mountain that takes like 2 weeks and they sleep on for the 188 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,920 ledges. They face death and they're all 189 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,400 insane and they're stoked about it. 190 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,520 And that was pretty cool. The other one was like this kid 191 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,560 who was who was incredibly bullied and like was like a 192 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:35,480 really successful youth climber and then went through puberty 193 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,440 obviously and grew several feet and like a ton of weight, still 194 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,520 in like amazing shape. But it really changes, like, the 195 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,240 mechanics of how your body works on the wall, especially if you 196 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,480 were like, so successful as a kid and you've really gotten 197 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,160 your, like, movement patterns, patterns down. 198 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,840 And he met up with this guy who has, like, a very colored 199 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,480 history in rock climbing. And this was kind of a 200 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,720 redemption story for that guy. And then kind of like the kid 201 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,040 who felt bullied because of, like, his body changing And also 202 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,280 like this guy who's having a redemption story was very much 203 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,480 like an online bully of people and their bodies. 204 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,560 It was really interesting. He sent like, a really amazingly 205 00:11:11,560 --> 00:11:14,680 hard route. I mean, harder than Oliver said. 206 00:11:14,680 --> 00:11:16,120 What the fuck was the route called? 207 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,480 We'll see. But yeah, so I watched that was 208 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,360 pretty cool. I mean, a lot of those, like The 209 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,800 Real Rock is like much more of like a documentary and like a 210 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,240 story than there's like actually watching like a comp. 211 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,080 So I do still like watching comps. 212 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,080 I haven't watching as much. But you know, The Real Rock is 213 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,120 cool. It's very interesting. 214 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,080 Yeah. So that's what I'm doing. 215 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,200 Death of Villains is the name of the route. 216 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:47,200 It's a 5/5/15 and it was it was Neffe. 217 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,000 It was a first ascent by Kyle Lightner. 218 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,720 It was it was pretty cool. It was a good story. 219 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,120 You know, like a lot of times with the story, I'm like, this 220 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,600 is pretty cool. But that way I was like, damn, 221 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,240 I'm going to cry a little bit because of this one. 222 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,160 His mom's there. His mom is like super 223 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,360 supportive. She's like, I've never rock 224 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,600 climbed in like, but she's like he loves it. 225 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,000 And she was a very, wouldn't it? Be nice to have a supportive 226 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,880 mother, you know. We can dream, can't we? 227 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,280 Right. I tried rock climbing. 228 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,000 I tried rock climbing once, exactly one time, and failed so 229 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:28,920 miserably at it that I couldn't even get past the second set on 230 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,880 the floor from the floor out that I never went back. 231 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,520 It was pretty embarrassing. One of these times when we're 232 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,600 all together for more than just a con or something, we're all 233 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,920 going to go rock climbing. Yeah, Oh yeah. 234 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:48,760 The the bunch of European dudes climbing the, the, the big route 235 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,040 is riders on the storm. And it's in Patagonia. 236 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:55,680 It's like the east face of the Tory Central. 237 00:12:55,680 --> 00:13:00,000 And it took them like well over a week, I think it took them 238 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,120 close to 2. And at one point it was snowing 239 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,280 and storming so bad that they just had camped out in their 240 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,320 portal edges just like, you know, a ledge on the fucking 241 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,960 that that's, yeah, hooked to gear. 242 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,080 I mean, it's really cool. But it's really funny because 243 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,520 it's like 3 older dudes who've done this route several times 244 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,080 and one young guy who's like really coming up and he's taking 245 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,400 it really seriously. And the three older ones are 246 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,920 like, you know, they're old vets at this point. 247 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,200 And they're like, look at this kid. 248 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,880 He's like really going for it, you know? 249 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,520 And they're just, they're just chilling. 250 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,720 It's an incredible route. And I cannot imagine having to 251 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,520 climb something so cold because it hurts. 252 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,360 Like it hurt genuinely hurts your hands terribly. 253 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,320 And they're like pushing snow out of the way when they're 254 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,400 getting higher up. I'm like, fuck, I know. 255 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:47,160 Every single hold is First off freezing and every like time the 256 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,000 rock touches you like it has a little edge. 257 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,280 It's like a little sharp. It just it's. 258 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,840 Like climbing on knives, Yeah. Yeah, I thought it's fucking 259 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,000 terrible. Although you do get great 260 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,360 friction at a colder temperature, so send tense. 261 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,800 You should write a Zine about that. 262 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,360 Honestly, there have been some really good zines about rock 263 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,520 climbing and and spelunking and things like that. 264 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,800 Like Sam Sorensen's Lowlife is really, really good. 265 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,800 Yeah, I could maybe. Yeah, but it's it's just those 266 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,800 are the sorts of details that people really dig. 267 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,480 At least I really dig when I read an RPG text like. 268 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,640 Yeah, that's very true. Rock on RPG sounds funny. 269 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,760 I mean, hell yeah do it. You could do a solo RPG about 270 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:32,680 rock climbing. They have. 271 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:33,840 Yeah, I really. Could so God what's? 272 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,400 The name of that manga that's all about the climber is 273 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,400 incredible. Oh, is that is there really a 274 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,040 manga about? I mean, I'm not surprised. 275 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,440 The whole, like the whole. Sports manga is crazy. 276 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,480 Blown up and some of them are really good so. 277 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,080 Oh, that one's AI think that's an older one. 278 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,640 That's that's that's been up for a while. 279 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,640 Yeah. So Sumo, if you want to watch a 280 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:58,920 jerk, it's two weeks every other month for six tournaments a 281 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,480 year, all of equal importance. So for 15 straight days you get 282 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,280 sumo. I watch it on a Twitch channel 283 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,840 called Midnight Sumo who plays all tournament and then runs 284 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,400 reruns all day and then leaves a VOD up so you can rewind it. 285 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,160 But throughout the week, I'm going to be in our Discord in in 286 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,480 there watching those vibes. So come in, hang out. 287 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,760 Anyone out there that wants to come learn more about Sumo? 288 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,280 Hop in our Discord channel and come watch Sumo with us. 289 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,520 I want to know how you got interested in sumo. 290 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,000 I was just, so I watch Twitch a lot at night when I'm like 291 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,960 trying to work just to like buy double shit, just to have 292 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,480 something on. And I was just scrolling through 293 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,640 channels and I found this, the Midnight Sumo channel I'm 294 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,560 talking about. And I was like, bro, I've always 295 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,880 been in like into super random sports. 296 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,040 Like I really want to get into cricket, but it's like really 297 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,080 hard to watch cricket over here. So I was like, yeah. 298 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,440 Yeah, I was like, I just want to watch some fucking sumo. 299 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,720 And then literally like 20 minutes and I'm like, this is my 300 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,000 thing now. I'm going to make this a big 301 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,440 part of my personality. And now here we are three 302 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,520 tournaments later with me wearing my Takarafuji shirt, 303 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,280 talking to, you know, on knockout chats about sumo. 304 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:06,080 So that worked out. But speaking, Speaking of that, 305 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,760 we are here to talk about TRPG stuff, specifically stuff that 306 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,160 Space Penguin Inc does. So what's the new release for 307 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,760 the month? The new release this month is 308 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:22,280 what I'm holding up is Rose Thorne Keep by K devs and 309 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:30,640 Charlotte Laskowski. So it's solo RPG wherein you 310 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:35,800 roll up with just D sixes your characters, right? 311 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,560 Do you have this on the screen Ryan? 312 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,160 On the PDF, jump to the page with the the characters. 313 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,520 Since you each of your characters has a trait and then 314 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:53,720 they also have scores in specific abilities and you use 315 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,320 these abilities and you can use your traits. 316 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Traits for optional views, but they're highly recommended when 317 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,920 you are attempting to beat certain tasks inside the dungeon 318 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,760 all the while raiding these dungeons in order to get like 319 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,240 wood and copper and things like that to increase your keep 320 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,920 particular rose thorn keep. So I'm not sure in video game 321 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,240 parlance what this is called like it would it be called like 322 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,359 a a city builder? I would call it like a dungeon 323 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,920 crawler. Like there's a lot of dungeon 324 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,320 crawlers where you go into dungeons, you get resources and 325 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,960 you build up your city that gives you more bonuses, so. 326 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,400 Cool. Yeah, and that's exactly what 327 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,040 Rose Thorn Keeb does. But it does this in this nice 328 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:43,200 little sideways form factor, like it's printed horizontally 329 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,960 or landscape. So for those who can't see this, 330 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:53,720 we're just listening. And yeah, it tells you all about 331 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,880 how to build up your Rose Storm Keep and to make it better. 332 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,520 And you have separate different sections of the keep itself, 333 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,520 like the kitchen, the stables, the courtyard, the Armory, and 334 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,680 even bedrooms that give your characters more power when they 335 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,680 go through this thing. Since Charlotte first introduced 336 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,400 it to me probably about 6 or 8 months ago, has been one of my 337 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,520 favorite games. I have spent so many, so many 338 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,520 hours on airplanes and then trains playing this. 339 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,880 Like I dearly, dearly, dearly love this because you can just 340 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,320 pick it up and just rolls, pick your characters or roll your 341 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,320 characters and then just go into the dungeon and rolls D sixes to 342 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,360 find out which encounter you have to fight. 343 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,840 And then it's really super simple math. 344 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,680 It's addition. You just add your stat score to 345 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,000 the dice roll. I like it because it's cool that 346 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,240 you roll the dice before you go into the dungeon and then you 347 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,040 have to pick which of those results you use for each 348 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,720 encounter that you have to fight. 349 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,440 But it's just super easy, super quick. 350 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,240 You can spend all day building up your Rose Thorn Keep and 351 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,200 it'll probably take you like 3 hours or so. 352 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:18,080 But there's replayability because each one is each time 353 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,360 you run through, you're going to run into different encounters. 354 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:23,000 You don't, it's not like you run in and run into every. 355 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,760 So you can run into every single encounter if you want to, but 356 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,000 you don't have to. And then yeah, so it's kind of 357 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,200 got like infinite replayability. Plus I'm already talking with 358 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:42,160 them about doing sequels and so with more with more dungeons and 359 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,080 stuff to go through, which is pretty cool. 360 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,560 So. That's awesome. 361 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,800 I love the pixelated aspects of it. 362 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,440 I mean, for those that have watched the show, same creator 363 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,120 that did Daisy Chainsaw, which had a bunch of, you know, 364 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,920 gorgeous pixel art and pixel fonts and stuff in it, games 365 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,480 great. Yeah, and and this excel, I 366 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,960 remember I I've got this on H forever ago. 367 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,320 And then when you said that you guys were were printing it, I 368 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,960 was super excited and it looks fantastic. 369 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,760 The the print is, is really, really nice. 370 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,520 But like you said, the game is the game is, is really neat and 371 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,760 the the character art is just so it's so good. 372 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,080 And obviously, you know, she did the OR they did the the 373 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,040 character art for Daisy Chainsaw. 374 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:29,120 But these little these little character portraits are 375 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:33,800 fantastic. Yes, so we're hoping to make it 376 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,400 like, like I said, hoping to make it a series, which would be 377 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,160 really cool. Would be cool to put out a 378 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,160 couple more dungeons a year maybe if it just like any 379 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,040 creative process, it takes a while to make. 380 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,080 It's not like you could just turn and burn them. 381 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,040 But it would be cool to eventually collect these all 382 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,720 into like a big hardcover, which would be really neat at some 383 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,320 point. And then make it so it would be 384 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,200 like a coffee table book with that sewn binding. 385 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:05,160 So it would completely lay flat like every time like this, it's 386 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,840 staple bound so you can bend it back and you can make it lay 387 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:14,960 flat, which is really nice. But it would be even even neater 388 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,160 in a hardcover with that sewn binding. 389 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,400 So it would just like lay flat for you and people on airplanes 390 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,840 staring at you being like, what's that guy doing? 391 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,520 And then you can teach them about RPGs, which is the best 392 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,000 part of what we do, is telling more people about more RPGs and 393 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,280 stuff like that. Would you? 394 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,000 If you did a hardback print, would you do it like landscape 395 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 style like this? Yes, absolutely. 396 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,320 Yes, we need more landscape hardback books. 397 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,840 Yeah. Have you ever thought about 398 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,160 doing like I think we we've talked about this, so the answer 399 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,720 is probably yes. My brain is dumb about doing 400 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,680 like one giant like forbidden Psalm of like all the expansions 401 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,280 ever for that. Like all the little mini scenes 402 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,080 and like one giant hardback. So all of the monthly scenes 403 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,400 will eventually get collected into Collection of Death volume 404 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,680 to next year, because remember we did Collection of Death. 405 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,400 Yeah. With the Volume 1, so we're 406 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,120 going to the plan is to do collection of death volume to 407 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:21,920 we're working on selling through the scenes themselves. 408 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,760 We don't want to reprint the material when you can get the 409 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,440 material individually still. Makes sense? 410 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:32,200 Just yet, but yeah. And some things like trend 71, 411 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,960 which is specifically meant for the last war, that'll be held 412 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:41,080 out for a Last war expansion collection and things like that. 413 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,160 But then like all of the ones for Dreadnight, it's all the 414 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,160 ones for Forbidden Psalm Core, all the ones for Mark Ball. 415 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,240 If we do ones more for Mark Ball, those will all be in 416 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,880 collection of Death Volume 2. So definitely trying to make 417 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,120 these things more accessible and have them available, easy to 418 00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:04,600 read and collect into one quick volume. 419 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,600 It works like that's kind of how we built our whole company, 420 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,520 because I'm a big comic, I'm not a big comic collector, but I'm a 421 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,880 comic collector and I've been collecting comics since I was a 422 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,920 little kid. And one of the best, most fun 423 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,960 things to do is to pick up the monthly issues, but then also to 424 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,600 pick up the trade paperback. I love a trade paperback, yeah. 425 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,440 I love a good trade because then you can reread everything really 426 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,960 fast and then also you can do cool stuff like we make it a 427 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,760 value added product by putting more stuff. 428 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,640 So they'll be even more unseen stuff like probably unwritten at 429 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,120 this point, stuff that'll go into collection of Death Volume 430 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,760 2. So it's not just like we're like 431 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,760 buy our things once and then buy them again later. 432 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,400 It's like we're going to put more stuff in there to make it 433 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,360 more useful for you. So it'll be the reason to pick 434 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,600 it up later. But I love, I dearly love doing 435 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,200 that. One of the best is, and it's 436 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,880 kind of reverse of what we do. Do you guys know Brubaker, Ed 437 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,440 Brubaker and Sean Phillips? They do a series called 438 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,400 Criminal. I don't think so. 439 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,040 So they do a series called Criminal. 440 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,720 It's kind of like their world and it's published, currently 441 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,600 published by Image, but they do a couple years ago, they 442 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,720 actually, they have the kind of level of workability that they 443 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,680 did like 4 hardcovers in a year or something like that. 444 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,080 So but one of the things that they do in the individual issues 445 00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:40,200 of criminal is they have like text pieces in the back written 446 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,640 by people who aren't them talking about like specifically 447 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,920 the criminal underworld and as it relates to film and TV and 448 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,480 other media. And then they don't collect 449 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,200 those in the trade paperbacks. So it's kind of, it kind of 450 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,200 makes it worthwhile to pick up the single issues and then and 451 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,520 then you pick up the tray paperbacks. 452 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,360 But then a couple years ago they gave in and started reprinting 453 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:09,600 those pieces in the hardcover ominous editions, which is 454 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,840 really nice. So you can for those of us who 455 00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:17,320 have somehow, like me, have somehow missed certain issues of 456 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,080 Criminal here and there and been able to unable to get those 457 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,560 because of the resale value being so high on certain issues. 458 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,720 Because these are small print run comics, even for Image 459 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,640 they're still small print run. It's nice to be able to read all 460 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,040 those text pieces at once in the back of the book, which is kind 461 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,160 of cool too. So long and short, yes. 462 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:45,560 I've kind of built Space Penguin in with that aspect of having 463 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,480 the single issues and then the collected version later on. 464 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,840 That's awesome. What I'm looking forward to is 465 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,640 you do you do the volume 1, you've already done that. 466 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,920 You do the volume to you do the volume 3, and then you go, why 467 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,440 don't we just put all three together into one giant hardback 468 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,480 book? Like, God, what's that? 469 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,960 What's that? I have a book that's 470 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,000 unnecessarily large metamorphosis or something like 471 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,600 that. You know what I'm talking about. 472 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,960 Like is it a space game? Oh, I'm unfamiliar. 473 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,000 You know what it is? I've shown it to you before and 474 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,960 I can't remember what it's called. 475 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,680 Oh, it's huge. It's right here. 476 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,560 No, that's not it. Anyway, what's a really popular 477 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,720 space game that's like DCC ish related? 478 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,120 Goodwin games probably sells it and they make a book that's. 479 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:33,920 Fucking metamorphosis alpha. Well, then, yeah, yeah, yeah. 480 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:35,640 That's what I said, right? Metamorphosis, right? 481 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,120 Yeah. The Metamorphosis Alpha book is 482 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,080 like this freaking big. It's enormous. 483 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,560 Yeah. But I don't know where it is. 484 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,720 So you so you want us to take all of the forbidden zomb stuff 485 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,960 and collect it into this huge oversized tone? 486 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,920 Yeah, yeah. Like after you do 123, you got 487 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,680 to do the collected one through 3, you know, and then because 488 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,000 the way the, the, the like, how much Will is able to like put 489 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,760 out there? It's not going to be that long. 490 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,040 It's crazy what he what he does. So like, yeah. 491 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,360 Very true. You're going to get like, you're 492 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,280 going to have like volume to volume 3, volume 4, volume 5, 493 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,480 volume 6, like pretty easily. So yeah, eventually you're going 494 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,360 to have to collect the collections into yet another 495 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:19,760 thing. Speaking of, because it'll 496 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:26,720 probably be live before we see each other again, the crowdfund 497 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,760 for Hope is for the Dead, which is the next forbidden Psalm, 498 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,640 goes live in June. I'm not sure of the specific 499 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:39,680 date Will's running that on his end, but it's zombies for 500 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,720 forbidden Psalm. So like in an infection 501 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:48,120 scenario, it comes out, it releases on whatever day that 28 502 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:52,200 years later releases because we're we're trying to, we're 503 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,560 trying to because we're 28 days later, 28 weeks later, 28 years 504 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,400 later. Those those films, definitely 505 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,360 they mean a lot to me and I think they mean a really a lot, 506 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:08,520 a lot to Will, which is great. And so we're trying to put 507 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,560 those, put that out at the same time, hopefully this small 508 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,360 resurgence of interest in zombies that that movie will 509 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:19,800 spring forth will make people who want to to read that, which 510 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,120 would be really cool anyway, that launch. 511 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,920 Too, you know. Right. 512 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:30,920 That launches in June on Kickstarter and then so we'll 513 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,440 talk about more about that next month. 514 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,920 We just wrapped up Liminal Horror Deluxe Crowd Fund just 515 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,960 wrapped up a couple of days ago and we did some good numbers for 516 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,320 that. And for everyone listening, 517 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,200 don't worry, the stretch goal that we did not reach will 518 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,240 probably be available as an add on after. 519 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,120 Well, there was a printed stretch goal that we had put at 520 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,480 150,000 that we didn't quite get to, but the material will be 521 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,120 written. It's for Einflung, The material 522 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,440 will be written because it's coming to all backers as a 523 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,120 digital stretch goal. So we're just going to go ahead 524 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,840 and have it available as a physical add on if people want 525 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,080 that. So it's a starter adventure. 526 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,960 So not that any of the adventures for liminal horror 527 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,480 couldn't be considered starter adventures or you, you know, be 528 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:31,280 used as starter adventures, but this one, GA and Josh are 529 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,800 specifically riding it from the standpoint of being a starter 530 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,640 adventure, which is really cool. I. 531 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,520 Mean, I mean, there's so much stuff in Lemon Horror that could 532 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,600 be started as you're right, but like like the Bureau is 533 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,760 fantastic, but there's still like a lot kind of to the 534 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,640 Bureau. So something would be really 535 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,720 dope. But yeah, you guys pushed real 536 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,960 damn close to 150 K, which is crazy. 537 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,960 I'm thinking of like what liminal horror started as this 538 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,240 kind of this like Karen hack and and coming this far is is 539 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,000 insane. I'm so excited to get the 540 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,200 obviously I backed the all of it, like the the deluxe cloth 541 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,760 thing, a very the book looks absolutely stunning, so I'm very 542 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,720 excited to get that. Did you get the reference on the 543 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,480 cover for the special edition One for the ready? 544 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,480 There, I know what you're talking about. 545 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,760 I don't remember what it is, but someone like I think was it, was 546 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,160 it maybe Zach that like talked about like what the cover was 547 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,680 and like what it was before like. 548 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,360 Yeah, So in the 80s and 90s, Time Life Books put out this 549 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,400 series of books called Time Life Mysteries of the Unknown. 550 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,520 And it was a very much a formative way. 551 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,040 It was it was a way to get your conspiracy theories in a 552 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,800 compact, easy to read form. And these were sold on TV 553 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,240 anyway. The the front cover of the first 554 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,600 one has like a sphinx on it. And when we were talking about 555 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,880 doing like a special cover for this, that's one of the ideas 556 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,400 that I threw into Zack's realm and he knocked it out of the 557 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,120 fucking park for that limited cover. 558 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,560 Like I'm really excited. It's going to be cloth with 559 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:15,160 silver foil on it. And I'm really hoping that I'm, 560 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,760 I know that it's going to come out looking great, but I'm 561 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,360 really hoping that people dig that and dig up those time life 562 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,080 mysteries of the unknowns. Because like I said, it was, it 563 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,800 was a digest, Not really a digest because these books are 564 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:34,280 actually quite large, not page count wise, but size wise. 565 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,560 I want to say they were like 10 by 13. 566 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,200 I think so, but they were meant as like coffee table books. 567 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,440 But there was anyway, there was a whole series called Time Life, 568 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,040 Mysteries of the Unknown. And I want to say there was like 569 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,080 13 volumes. There's probably like more 570 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,920 volumes than that, but my brain wants to say there was 13 571 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,440 volumes to make the magic number. 572 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,400 Anyway, maybe people will go dig those, research those up. 573 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,960 You can probably find them on eBay. 574 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,160 I guarantee you can find find them that like used bookstores 575 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,080 and stuff like that. Conspiracy theories in easy to 576 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,040 read format. Nice. 577 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,840 Yeah, there's a bunch. I threw it up on screen for, for 578 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,280 a little bit, Mystic Places being like the first one. 579 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040 But yeah, there's like stacks of these things and the books do 580 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,320 look gorgeous. And it is like, yeah, when you 581 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,040 see that and then you see the cover of the love of of Luminal 582 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,720 Horror, you're like, Oh yeah, I totally. 583 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,160 Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. 584 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,200 I'm curious how many there are, though. 33 volume set. 585 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,480 Complete 33 volumes. I was 20. 586 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,280 I was 20. You. 587 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,080 Were you were close, there was a. 588 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:42,960 Three. Yeah, that's such a crazy thing. 589 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,440 Like, just like a time life. Here's all your conspiracy 590 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,000 theories. As a tabletop book, as a as a 591 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,480 coffee table book. Yeah. 592 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,720 Got if only they could just stay there. 593 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,560 And that they weren't, you know, proliferated by small but loud 594 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,800 communities on the Internet. And some people think that they 595 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:07,200 actually have like standing, you know, but, but here we are. 596 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,280 Yeah, so that's the story of the Liminal Horror Deluxe edition 597 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,480 covered, which I'm really excited for. 598 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,640 That whole book is going to be just chock full of goodness. 599 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Like all of Zach's art is amazing, of course, as always. 600 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,640 And Josh and GA have really gone through and really added in 601 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:37,240 parts that I don't think people, it's kind of stuff that you see 602 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,200 someone be like, well, I wish I had a way to make a ruling on 603 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,760 this. And they'll have like an entire 604 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,480 chapter and appendices on how to make rulings for a situation 605 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,920 like that. So it's really covering a lot of 606 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,120 ground. Like nothing is going to ever be 607 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,000 exhaustive, but it's going to go a long way. 608 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,120 Like this book is going to come in at like 400 pages. 609 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,160 So like, this is going to be the biggest book that we've done 610 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,320 yet. So really, really super stoked 611 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,600 to have all of that stuff in one one format. 612 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,760 And I'm hoping that it gets read and appreciated the same way 613 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,920 that the Warden's Operation Manual for the Mothership 1E 614 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,960 gets read and appreciated because it's kind of an 615 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,360 amalgamation of best practices and how really to do things. 616 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:33,480 Definitely the WOM is and just I found in my years being in this 617 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,000 business and just and playing these games that that's one of 618 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,520 the things that people ask for a lot is they're they don't know 619 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:49,159 how to do rulings right. Like it's for for those of us 620 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:52,760 who've been playing for a long time, it's just smash, easy 621 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,679 peasy. Like we can knock it out no 622 00:34:54,679 --> 00:35:00,640 problem whatsoever. But think about how you would 623 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,120 explain to somebody how to make rulings, right? 624 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,840 So yesterday, for instance, yesterday we were playing BX 625 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,960 Stella was running and it was just there was just two players, 626 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:22,000 me and Fear and and we were I had lost my dagger. 627 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,200 So I was down to using flasks of oil and A and a Lantern to make 628 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,040 Molotov cocktails pretty quick to fight these scorpions off. 629 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:42,640 And the fear posted up a section from one of the BX books about 630 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,200 oil and it was literally an entire paragraph of rulings. 631 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,440 But they had just they had been brought up in Gygax and 632 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:58,040 companies, you know, home games. So they became rules instead of 633 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,200 just how to make rulings and stuff like that. 634 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,560 Talking about like the dimension, like the damage for a 635 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:11,040 flask of oil and how the how they puddle and you know, how 636 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,080 much damage you take from running through fire and things 637 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,680 like that. So I would much rather see books 638 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,680 on how to do rulings obviously than rules. 639 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,120 Keep the rules for the adventures. 640 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:28,400 That's how I like it. I also respect that mentality. 641 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:34,160 I definitely. Like GM sections where all the 642 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,840 stuff like that is in its own section and not dispersed 643 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,680 throughout the entire book. That's a that's a nod to the 644 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,680 five people that know what the fuck I'm talking about. 645 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:50,800 But just different kind of books to like that's going to be a 646 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,360 great book to have. I mean, again, like Josh was on 647 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,080 the show. We did like a pre liminal horror 648 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,400 episode where he like talked in depth about like all the 649 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,160 different parts and it sounds amazing and you're and it sounds 650 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,720 like it might even end up being bigger than they thought when it 651 00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:06,720 was bigger than what they thought it would be, which is 652 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,480 going to be crazy. Things going to be like a brick. 653 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,320 And it's like a 6 by 9, right. Yeah, but I wish I want more 654 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,480 like different different kinds of books. 655 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,760 You know what, you know what we did? 656 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,040 You know what we did yesterday? What did we do yesterday? 657 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,840 It's. Got your name all over it. 658 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,200 Violence Jam. How did that go? 659 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,320 Yeah. It was good. 660 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,360 It was good. Yeah. 661 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,560 It was neat. We did one and two and then I 662 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,840 was like, oh, Dirt Crater. I'm not shocked because like, I 663 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,320 think probably 60% of all the books behind me have your name 664 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,360 in it, but but it's just a good weird, interesting book of like 665 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,760 different stuff. And I wish like, you know, talk 666 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,720 about like Liminal Horror Deluxe, like all the tools you 667 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,160 need, the extra stuff you need, like the more stuff you need or 668 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,480 things like this where it's a bunch of different random stuff 669 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,880 like I want, I don't know, the the whole scene, a big chunk of 670 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,440 the scene feels very stagnant right now. 671 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,480 And I want more things either like that are weird or things 672 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,400 like the the opera, the Wardens operation manual, which is like 673 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,920 tools where people can make more with it. 674 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,080 And things like you're doing with the Liminal Horror Deluxe 675 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,280 edition, like having those tools for people to make more. 676 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,800 I don't know, I want more of that kind of stuff. 677 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,640 So what did you run out of violence, Jim? 678 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:23,600 We just talked about it. Yeah, yeah, we, we, we did a non 679 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,000 rated episode and just read the violence rules, which are like, 680 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,360 you know, 5 ages and then just talked about like our favorite 681 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,320 parts of the different, the different entries in violence 682 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,400 Jam 1 and 2. Because there's some really 683 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,240 good, weird, fucked up, interesting stuff through both. 684 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,200 And it's really neat. And I want to, I want, I want 685 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,960 somebody to, I want to play violence really bad after that. 686 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,400 And I want to make shit for violence. 687 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,360 And so like, I don't know, I like the concept of like I 688 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,160 didn't make a game. I made like a a resolution 689 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,840 mechanic and give you a bit of guidance and I go make shit. 690 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,200 And then people did not one book full, but 2 so. 691 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,400 What did you think about my layout job? 692 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,240 I wish that in #1 let the authors names were at the front 693 00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:11,600 of each one because I didn't know who the fuck was writing 694 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,880 what half the time. There you go. 695 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,000 Yeah, yeah. So, well, now we know why, 696 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,120 because you're like, yes, someone. 697 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,800 Someone made a volume 2. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 698 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,840 I didn't know they made a volume 2. 699 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,600 Yeah, yeah, it's all. Adventures, pretty much. 700 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:34,080 Yeah, it's got Brandon Art on the front Cacalypse and it's got 701 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,800 it's the Itch page. I'll shoot you the link to itch 702 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,440 page. Itch page just put up like a 703 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,840 Mixam print on demand. That's as soon as it gets like 704 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,800 approved or whatever I'm going to snag a copy of. 705 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,040 But yeah, they put out of violence too. 706 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,720 Like half of it is Luke adding stuff for like the modern 707 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,040 paranormal horror thing that's in the rules. 708 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,160 There's like half of it's like 3 adventures for that. 709 00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:55,680 But it's pretty cool. I mean, again, it's more yeah, 710 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,240 like adventures versus #1 which is just random, like here's like 711 00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:03,440 3 new rules or here's like a random setting of like 75 words 712 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,640 or, or stuff. So it's cool. 713 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,760 Or here's like the one that the one that's written in code that 714 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,240 if you type all that in into your computer, you can actually 715 00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:14,200 run it as a little program. Yeah, that's why I left it in 716 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,240 there as code and things like that, just to mess with people. 717 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,920 Yeah, we found, we found, we found it online. 718 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,440 It exists. There's a generator someone 719 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,400 either either I don't know if the creator did it or someone 720 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,040 else did it, but you can you can find that generator created 721 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,920 online. It's great. 722 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,760 Yeah, pretty cool DIY project that's. 723 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,880 What we figured when we looked into it and it was just like 724 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,360 this. It's like, how do you, if 725 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,640 someone makes a generator, how would you put it into a book? 726 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,920 And it's like, oh, just drop the code for it and then there you 727 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,120 go. The no shit in the 60s, 728 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,560 seventies, 80s, nineties, probably up until still probably 729 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,240 still happens in certain computing magazines and just in 730 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:54,840 general interest and stuff like that. 731 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,320 Even they used to do it, but in Dragon Magazine and stuff like 732 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,800 that too. They would have like those pages 733 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,640 of text like that that would have those that would 734 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,560 essentially do that, which was just write this all into BASIC 735 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,680 or COBOL or whatever and then you got your little program so. 736 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,040 That is pretty cool, yeah. Something I grew up with as a 737 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,960 kid and then when Sean sent that to me, I was just like, this is 738 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,840 how it's going to be. Just slapped it directly in 739 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,280 there in the layout. So. 740 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,800 There you go. I, I, I feel like I got an 741 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,800 e-mail recently too childhood. Is that PDF or the Prince or 742 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,520 something? Like did I get an e-mail from 743 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,880 from from somebody is going out or making progress? 744 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,440 So that's the PDFs are out for that one because that one got 745 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,400 switched over to digital only. And then Will has actually 746 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:52,200 opened his UK store to sell his stuff and special things like 747 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,560 that. Like just to we're trying to 748 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,840 make it a little bit easier on him to get more of the people, 749 00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:04,480 you know, being being a creator in the UK and the more people in 750 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,800 the UK wanting to pick that up and not being able to just 751 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,760 because of how much it costs to ship things over. 752 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,560 And so Will has opened a store where he's selling that and he's 753 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,640 selling other things, small things like. 754 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,960 Special alt cover. Hardcover, yeah, different 755 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,040 covers of things and stuff like that. 756 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,200 So which is which is pretty good, pretty cool. 757 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,440 Will's actually going to be at UK Games Expo is that I think 758 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:43,040 that's next week. UKGE yes, Friday, May 30th to 759 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:48,800 June 1st and Will's going to be there at UKGE with some other 760 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,640 random hard to find forbidden Psalm stuff. 761 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,280 So and neat, neat little things. So picking that collector brain 762 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,600 of yours, Ryan, there's going to be. 763 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,240 Stuff you need to I look at this stuff that's not going to be on 764 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:05,160 the website I'm going to have to hit up will and be like so so 765 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,400 how about yeah, because I did snag some of those alt covers. 766 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,280 I absolutely did. Cool. 767 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:20,920 So so yeah. What's is that That's is that it 768 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,720 for Space Penguin For the month we're doing Roll Storm Keep. 769 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:26,240 The next month, we're talking about zombies. 770 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,760 Yeah, and talk about Hope is for the Dead next month and Karen 771 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,640 box set will be out to the general public next month as 772 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,880 well. We're just about done fulfilling 773 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,000 that. I just got notification that the 774 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,560 patches for survivors of the core wars are coming through. 775 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,920 So those will be rides. So those will be going out once 776 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,440 we take a look. Excuse me, a little bit of a 777 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,280 brief either from Karen. We'll work on getting those out. 778 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,400 I think we had estimated quarter three per fulfillment. 779 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,680 So we're going to be fulfilling quarter 2, which is good go. 780 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,320 This is always on a mountain is currently on the ship heading 781 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,360 in. So that will be fulfilling as 782 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:09,280 well. And that one we'd actually, you 783 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,800 want to talk about a printer error. 784 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,360 I didn't, I forgot to have the ribbons put into the book. 785 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,440 So instead of instead of that, we're going to make it up to 786 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,640 everybody by printing one of the stretch goals that we didn't 787 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,360 hit. So which would you rather have a 788 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,400 a new module to go along with this or ribbon in the book? 789 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:30,040 I think everyone will be happy with the new ribbon in the book 790 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,920 so. Yeah, I mean. 791 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,240 I mean I mean with with, with, with the new module or something 792 00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:36,560 like. That yeah, I would definitely be 793 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,440 happy with the new module. I do like a ribbon, though. 794 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,560 I will say I do like a ribbon, but yeah, it was. 795 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,000 Just course poor communication on my part with our printer and 796 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,080 I totally didn't realize it until I'd actually got the I 797 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,840 didn't. It wasn't in the sample copy and 798 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,440 I forgot to ask about it. So it's it's it's a minor thing 799 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,160 on the small print run book, which is great. 800 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:03,400 Like and happy to provide refunds if people want refunds 801 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,240 versus, you know, not getting the ribbon. 802 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,760 But we're going to, we're going to go out, we're going to go 803 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,080 out-of-the-box and we're going to print this module that Thomas 804 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,400 is working on in a trifold. So that'll be coming in with 805 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,360 those. So which I hope will make it up 806 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,680 for people. Yeah, I think, I think. 807 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,920 That's a silly mistake. And now that I've talked to our 808 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,960 printer and our printer says, from now on, Jared, I'm just 809 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,920 going to include ribbons on all of your books. 810 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,960 And I'm like, yes. There you go, perfect. 811 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,120 Not a bad thing to have. So yeah. 812 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,000 And all of those things, you know, as those come out, we're 813 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,600 going to be talking about those maybe next month we we can do a 814 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,960 bit of a, a brief like post mortem on the fact that you can 815 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,280 see your living room probably again at this point. 816 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,120 I'm talking about Karen, yeah. Sure, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 817 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,320 But but I think that's going to be episode whatever of knockout 818 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,200 chats it is this month, 12 or 13. 819 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,080 As always jerk, thanks for coming on and you will be able 820 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,120 to find us next month talking about everything we already said 821 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,160 we were going to talk about like 5 minutes ago so. 822 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,000 Sports at the beginning. Some sports we got to do 823 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,040 something different for next month. 824 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,720 We'll see. But I mean, I had for a month. 825 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:17,040 I've had a copy. I had a copy of one of my 826 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,080 favorite books, Samuel Delaney's Dahlgren. 827 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:22,960 I don't know if you've either of you ever, ever read that, but I 828 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,560 recommend it. It's one of the best. 829 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,560 Science. It's science, it's science 830 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,040 fantasy. It's science fiction. 831 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,400 It's a little bit of both. Yeah. 832 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,720 Anyway, I had that ready. I had Ghost of Lion Castle, 833 00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:43,600 which is my favorite, my favorite bit, Basic expert 834 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,120 modules. For basic, it's the solo module. 835 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,960 And then I also had to throw it back to like what we talked like 836 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,720 last month. I had another more cock to talk 837 00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:52,960 about there. You go so. 838 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,840 We'll stack that in for next time. 839 00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:00,960 We got the sumo in today again. Watch Sumo kids, but that'll be 840 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,720 that'll be it for us, jerk. Thank you so much for being 841 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:06,000 here, Hunter. You have fun going to work and 842 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,160 see you all Saturday for something. 843 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:11,520 Bye.