1 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,560 Hello and welcome to the weekly Squirrel podcast. 2 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,320 My name is Ryan. And I'm one of the sword Smiths 3 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,920 of Larfar. And today? 4 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:30,480 Today, we're going to be going over Azag from Dank Dungeons, 5 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,840 Lex Mandrake, but also lots of other people. 6 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,280 A whole list will go over of writers and artists. 7 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:42,960 Music from Loot. The Body, the watch for the 8 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 podcast listeners is is the tape. 9 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,680 It's a cassette tape. It's a beautiful cassette tape. 10 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,120 Fuck it. Let's just go over how pretty 11 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,320 everything is. First of all, a zag. 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:01:00,120 This is a very it's an old school style role-playing game 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,360 in a very I would say like sword and sorcery setting. 14 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,800 And I how I did So this is not everybody, but this is how I 15 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,280 define it when people ask me, right? 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,920 Let me rant real quick. To me, there's a difference 17 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,240 between. Sword and sorcery. 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,720 Wait, wait, wait. OK, now go. 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,520 OK, so there's a dip to me in my head. 20 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Cannon. There's sword and sorcery and 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,240 sword and wizardry, right? A lot of the shit before Tolkien 22 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:29,840 was sword and sorcery, You know, Moorcock and and Ashton Smith. 23 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,880 Like all your all your weird like Elrix and everything like 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,440 that, right? Weird shit like astral projecte 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,520 shit like scimitars and deserts and shit, right? 26 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,200 And then sword and sorcery, right? 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,680 And then sword and wizardry is your standard Europe, but not 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,800 Europe. Like quasi magic, middle evil 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,440 sword Shields and Wizards that all look like Gandalf. 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,160 That's the two branches of fiction in my head as far as the 31 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,560 setting. The only two branches of 32 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,640 fiction. That's right, all of fiction 33 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:03,400 fits in those you. Know basically in fantasy. 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,960 So this is very sword and sorcery. 35 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,560 We'll go over the, I mean, it literally says Lovecraft, Conan, 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,120 Hyperborea, you know, sword and sorcery. 37 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,280 It's cool. Setting's great. 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,920 The book is absolutely gorgeous. We'll get into that a little bit 39 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:19,960 more. But I have. 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,840 So first we got actually volume one, the first time this came 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,200 out printed by LFOSR, it was 2 volumes, Volume one and volume 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,440 to I have them both. It was volume one, the rules, 43 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:38,240 Volume to the world. It's printed on that thick LFOSR 44 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,480 paper and like a real thick nice paper all the way through. 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,800 It came with a bunch of cards on that nice thick stock for the 46 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,200 character sheets. And it also came with the tape. 47 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:57,240 This was the first version this version actually came out in. 48 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,240 Let me tell you, I had this up the last time, but then we moved 49 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,520 our episode. So this version originally came 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,920 out in October of 2021, printed from LFOSR. 51 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:16,600 The book itself on Azag was originally published in March of 52 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,160 2021. After this sold out 53 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,760 instantaneously before I even got a chance to buy it, this 54 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,560 version this is I paid much more. 55 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,760 Later second hand. They put out a second copy where 56 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,000 they actually combine the two books together into the one that 57 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,720 I'm holding right now. And you still got the cards on a 58 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,680 different kind of paper. It's not quite as nice. 59 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,120 The cover of this one is still beautiful, but the inside paper 60 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,360 it's still nice. But it's a it's a shiny paper, 61 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,440 it's not that thick, you know, LFOSR paper. 62 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:52,200 And it goes from an almost square Zine. 63 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,400 That volume one and volume to was to a pretty classic like the 64 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,760 American version of A5 Perfect Bound versus the original ones 65 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,480 still got the cards, but you were also you were able to get 66 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,680 the Dream Thieves written by Diego Noguera. 67 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,080 Yeah, the first adventure for Azag. 68 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,959 And this came out in April of 2022. 69 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,600 I was digging through the Itch page and about six months ago 70 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,120 someone asked and Lex Mendrick said that they were talking to 71 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,120 somebody else about potentially doing another adventure for 72 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,000 Azag. So maybe we'll see that at some 73 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,600 point. I'm glad that it sounds like 74 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:30,640 maybe there's going to be more for that. 75 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,760 So that's that's the whole a zag line is volume one and volume to 76 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,040 and the tape for the first release and then the the 77 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,200 combined A zag perfect bound with the Diego Noguera Dream 78 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,440 Themes adventure for the second release and that's what we're 79 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,400 going to be going over today. We'll dig into that a little bit 80 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,480 more to that though. Got a couple things to talk 81 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,000 about. First if you're app, if you're 82 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,240 but, but. I was just going to make jokes. 83 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Just just do the thing. If you're listening right now, 84 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,760 this is week two of the World of Kuroga giveaway Go Back Black 85 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,120 Rainbow Society, the expansion to Hell Knight over on 86 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,480 Kickstarter right now. But we are giving away the 87 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,080 hardback of Warpland. Gabriel was extremely nice and 88 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,240 sent us a copy of Narrow City, which we gave away last week to 89 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:21,240 Ozo Warpland. This week and next week will be 90 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,800 Hell Knight. I don't know why I keep saying 91 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,040 Hell City. It's hell night. 92 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,160 Those are words. That's that's. 93 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,320 Hell City night. Yeah, hell City night. 94 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,360 But this week we are giving away the hardcover warplan. 95 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,720 It is beautiful. It is gorgeous and you have to 96 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,520 just go follow us on like the tweet. 97 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,440 I don't even give a fuck if you follow us realistically. 98 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,520 I just want like the tweet so I can I know what your name is to 99 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:48,720 so I can I can pick you. But go like that by the end of 100 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,160 the episode, and we might pick you. 101 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,800 And even prior to that, before we hop into it, we're hopping 102 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,280 into stuff. We have more stuff to talk about 103 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:00,280 for later this week. That'll be at the end of the 104 00:06:00,280 --> 00:06:01,080 episode. Yeah. 105 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,400 Jump to the end if you don't want to hear us. 106 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:03,960 We're. Going to hop into other stuff, 107 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,880 you know. Yeah, we're going to go, we're 108 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,480 going to look at something else real quick. 109 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:14,080 And that something else is this, I say and then I don't break it 110 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,640 up. We're doing really this, hey, 111 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,240 listen, we're getting there. It's not our normal time or day. 112 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,120 I think that's a lot of time. So Earth after death, the post 113 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,720 apocalyptic survival role-playing game, it says I had 114 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,280 this for those in podcast land. I switched to a Kickstarter 115 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:34,560 window experience, new and exciting post apocalyptic 116 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,320 wastelands and this advanced OSR inspired game and spiritual 117 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,520 successor to TS Rs Gamma World. This is an interesting game. 118 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,800 I've heard about it for a while. They actually had a kind of like 119 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,280 the quick start original version of the Wastelands Handbook. 120 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:54,040 Wieslander's handbook at Exalted a while ago and I snagged it. 121 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,000 It's interesting, I read it a while ago, It's cool. 122 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,680 You can actually get the download of this for free on 123 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,880 their page, which is always good. 124 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,640 The link should be higher because you have to scroll way 125 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 down to get it says click free. This should be the first thing 126 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,080 at the top. What's interesting is the PDF 127 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,920 uses a different cover. It looks like a lot of the same 128 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,720 characters, but it's a little bit different cover than the one 129 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,360 that's on the one from Exalted. Both are good. 130 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,320 It's just interesting that it's a little bit different. 131 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,160 But when I read through, it seems like most of it's pretty 132 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,040 much the same. So did you get a chance to read 133 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,320 through this? It's interesting. 134 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,800 Let's go through the page a little bit so that you guys all 135 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,160 know what's going on. It's got 16 days left to go. 136 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,840 It's about halfway to its goal. It's at 4700 Bucks on about a 137 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,520 $9500 goal. I believe it's in Kanuki and 138 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,520 though, so there's a conversion. Yeah, $13,000 Canadian. 139 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,600 Yeah. The city I once knew as home is 140 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,680 teetering on the edge of radioactive oblivion. 141 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,320 A 300,000° baptism by nuclear fire. 142 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,960 I'm not sorry we had it coming. A scourge of white hot atonement 143 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,840 will be our wake up call. Hope for our future is now a 144 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,440 stillborn dream. The bombs begin to fall and I'm 145 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,440 rushing to meet my love. Please remember me. 146 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,440 There is no more earth after death. 147 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,600 Bars. Right. 148 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,480 Post apocalyptic role-playing game, dungeon and hex crawling. 149 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Smorgasbord of adventure, horror, exploration and combat. 150 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,720 The spiritual successor to Gamma World, which I've never played. 151 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,040 I would either. But I do. 152 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,360 But I do have a first edition box out of it. 153 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:34,600 Have you read it? Yeah. 154 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,919 No, it's still in the plastic. It's so funny, it's. 155 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,280 Right next to my first edition of Boot Hill and Star Frontiers. 156 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,240 Yeah. Oh and my first edition 157 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,480 Traveler. Nice. 158 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,760 The finest emulation of CRPG is like Wasteland and Fallout 159 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,120 tabletop. And bloody good fun. 160 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,760 So this is a really interesting, post apocalyptic, very Mad Max, 161 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,720 You know, Fate. Fallout World, yeah, it's all 162 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,720 the stuff you want from that. It's really interesting. 163 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,640 As I said, like I got a chance to read through the entire 164 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,400 Wastelanders handbook. It's cool. 165 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,040 It's really neat. I don't know if I'm specifically 166 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,040 the target audience for this, because for anyone here on the 167 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,200 show that listens to us regularly, we are rules light 168 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,120 boys here. And this is not heavy by any 169 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,760 stretch of the imagination, but there is parts of it that kind 170 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,200 of lean into the crunch. Not in a bad way. 171 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,640 That's the point there. There are people out there that 172 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,280 like a little bit more crunch and I. 173 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:40,320 Think that's very much inspired by like what's it Wastelander? 174 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,560 And then like the like classic Fallouts and like uses like an 175 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:46,960 action point system, which both of those do as well. 176 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah. 177 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,160 So they they say that they use a novel new system called the AP 178 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,840 system. It's D20 roll under. 179 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,360 There's a bunch of numbers. And then to munch on other 180 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,440 numbers. I think they even make a joke 181 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,880 here where they say there's a page that's not too breezy, but 182 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,080 it's neat. Like I said, the mechanics are 183 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,560 very interesting. They everything you want in 184 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:11,400 there. The gun system is interesting. 185 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,720 The vehicle system is interesting. 186 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,600 It's a really interesting game in general. 187 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:22,160 You can get the waste liners handbook before and now you can 188 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,240 also get. I'll scroll back up to what I 189 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,680 just passed in a second. There is an Overseer's manual 190 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:31,240 now, which is basically like your GM guide, but it's a bunch 191 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:37,360 of other advanced crafting settlements, vehicle combat 192 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,000 optional, a ton more optional rules, diseases, weather, all 193 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,160 the stuff you need to actually run the game. 194 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,800 Like a shit load of stuff to run the game so you can get both and 195 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,400 including the Apocalypse Dream Zine, which is a collection of 196 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,280 adventures. One of the reasons we're talking 197 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,680 about this. Not only does it look like an 198 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:56,920 interesting project, but not friend of the show part of the 199 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,800 show. Best friend of the show. 200 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:03,040 Yeah, per person who like is, I think they're just a there are 201 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,320 some questions. Member of the TWS team. 202 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,520 Member of the TWS. We're a family, OK? 203 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,280 Family, we're a. Family. 204 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:17,560 This is a community, yeah. If buzzwords to quit a job, Josh 205 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:21,960 Demansky will be writing a cakewalk, a horror filled true 206 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,680 dungeon crawl involving a sport stadium, hidden treasures and 207 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:29,800 creatures and etcetera etcetera. And not only that, right next to 208 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,960 Josh de Manti on here in his his logo we got Luke Gearing. 209 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,480 Regular friend. Yeah, regular friend of the show 210 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:45,760 luminary regular shit poster. Yeah, creating Over the Moon. 211 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,280 A point crawl dungeon set inside the abandoned Over the Moon 212 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,560 pierside theme park filled with traps, rabid machines and a 213 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:56,600 deadly secret. Both of them will be writing 214 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,200 adventures for this if it gets funded. 215 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,360 Like I said, still have 16 days. About half the campaign left. 216 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,400 It's about halfway. It'd be nice to push that. 217 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:07,080 There's a lot of really great artists on the project as well. 218 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,280 Roland's. I'm not even going to pretend to 219 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,320 say her last name. It is I I will not offend you in 220 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,400 that way, Roland. I'll try Kelland's, but there's 221 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,200 accents and things. A lead artist on the project so 222 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,880 if this is their art, it's fantastic, that's great. 223 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,120 Also Justin McElroy, Alex Apriano, Mike Dosher, Kirby 224 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,520 Peru, Francisco Sova, Woof Draw, SCAP and Soul links to all of 225 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,280 that all the way through there. There's a list here that goes 226 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,920 through all the content that you can have six player strains, 12 227 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,400 backgrounds, combat and etcetera, etcetera, or even over 228 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,040 the overseers, the manual. A lot of accolades here 229 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,840 including you know, people saying nice things about it like 230 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,600 rise up comas like Josh Mccrew and and Hodag. 231 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,960 Go check out the Hodag RPG. Tim. 232 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:57,520 Ober Mueller And then there is a little breakdown here that talks 233 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,800 a little bit more about melee and range combat and guns and 234 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,440 everything. So you get a little hint at the 235 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,360 mechanics. But if you want a full, full 236 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,200 view of the mechanics, there's a a big graphic here on the front 237 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,520 that says click here, try it for free and you can download 238 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,520 basically the entire book that I'm holding the original Zine 239 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,240 just as APDF for free to check out the system. 240 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,640 Like I said, it's really interesting. 241 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,600 I like a lot of parts of it. It is a bit crunchy for me, but 242 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,080 that's because I'm I'm old and have ADHD and I need lighter 243 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,200 stuff. I'm not the target audience, but 244 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,480 I think if you are the target audience, this is really, really 245 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,840 interesting system with a lot of fun heft to it. 246 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,160 So definitely check it out, go back this, support it. 247 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,960 I'm looking at the tiers. It's relatively inexpensive. 248 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,600 I don't know why my shit's chopped off here, so let's open 249 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:54,120 it up a little bit. The full digital release is $36 250 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,280 to get everything in PDF. The full physical release is 251 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,400 $70.00. That's going to be GM screen 252 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,680 hardback book multiple scenes like all of that stuff that's 253 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:09,600 going to be with all of that and then you can there's like some 254 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,080 limited tears at like 150 bucks and and everything like that 185 255 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,080 for making a monster or whatnot. So go check that out. 256 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:19,440 As I said it's going to be interesting project. 257 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,680 I'd like to see it happen. It would also be awesome to see 258 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,840 anything written by Josh and Luke gearing so that is Earth 259 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,360 after dark post apocalyptic survival RPG. 260 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,440 Go check that out on Kickstarter right now. 261 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,080 I'll drop the link into all the stuff below. 262 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,320 So, So yeah, that's what's going on. 263 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,480 So we're gonna go over a zag now. 264 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Let's do it. I'm ready. 265 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,280 If I would've I I booped to the second page instead of the cool 266 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:53,800 art page, so got for a God damn this cover dude. 267 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,920 Great. I mean such a great. 268 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,400 Cover God. Incredible. 269 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,760 I actually this is, I'm sure this is the artist I like Party 270 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,800 in the Front, but what's his actual name? 271 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,560 We never know. Well, let's Scroll down and then 272 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,960 we'll scroll back because this can be listed here. 273 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,600 The Louis Mello is, I believe they're the same person who did. 274 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaking of Josh Mansky again, they did a cover for one of Josh 275 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:25,880 Mansky's adventures in the series with Oh my God, Josh 276 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,040 don't hate me. The it's right there. 277 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,640 I can see it. And the two knots, You know what 278 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,680 I mean? Like the the weird. 279 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,000 Yes, you know what I'm talking. About I gotta go to go to Zitch 280 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,640 page right now. I'm like fuck, what we talking 281 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,120 about? Zed in two knots, right? 282 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,640 And is that is that what I'm saying? 283 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,720 My, my, my internet's actually shitting out on me. 284 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Whoa. We're freezing, Yeah, sorry. 285 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,440 Oh, are we freezing on the pot? No, I was just, I was just 286 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,360 making sure you're in there. So I'm in the weird mood today, 287 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,720 you know? I'm all over the place. 288 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,720 Well, calm the fuck down. Nope. 289 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:13,080 Did you go to this page yet? Yeah, let's see. 290 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,480 Yeah. Is it in two knots? 291 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,160 See. I knew. 292 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,000 I know I knew. Different different different 293 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,480 artist is. It no, no, no, no, no. 294 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,600 It's the it's the other. It's the second scene in that 295 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,160 series. Oh, OK, I believe you. 296 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:29,960 Do you? Do you really? 297 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,040 I just know him from all the cool I I follow him on several 298 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,480 social medias, actually totally not having anything to do with 299 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,120 tabletop games because they make really cool art. 300 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,640 Yes, by by their username. So I'm not a. 301 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,000 Cool guy. Nope, not at all. 302 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:56,800 I'm not a huge Tangled. Tangled is the the other one 303 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,280 that's from the afterthought committee. 304 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:05,760 It's the Level 0 funnel for OSC and yeah with cover art by Lewis 305 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,359 Mello. Let me, I'll, I'll just throw 306 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,880 that up into here real quick just to he. 307 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:20,160 Also, he also did the art for Cyberpunk augmented cover. 308 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,200 Oh yeah, yeah. Interesting. 309 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:28,240 Right now I'm full of interesting packs, so you. 310 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,040 You were just full of it. You know you got it. 311 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,080 You got? It I got it. 312 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:38,000 You're full up on it, buddy. Yeah man, we are. 313 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,880 Really, We are. We are cruising today. 314 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,480 We are killing it. Yeah, let's fucking go. 315 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,480 If you're listening along, you're welcome. 316 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:54,960 Yeah, this is all for you. Yeah, I keep trying to to to 317 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,480 grab this and it's pissing me off. 318 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,920 Let's see if I can just copy paste it on here. 319 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,400 Just don't look, if you're if you're listening, you're doing 320 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:03,480 great. But if you're watching along, 321 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,520 just eyes down for this. Part, you know, Yeah. 322 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:16,720 So anyway, so yeah, the cover is absolutely stunning and and I'm 323 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,200 obsessed with getting it onto the screen. 324 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,080 So for you guys in podcast land listening to us fumble and 325 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,000 fumble and fumble, I'm not going to edit this out, 'cause, you 326 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,120 know, I don't. So that's all for you. 327 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,560 Yeah. So anyway, so this is the cover 328 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,560 for Tangled. This is from after the 329 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,280 documentary. This is from Josh again, Look at 330 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,720 that cover there. It's absolutely stunning. 331 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,720 Yeah, it's really, really beautiful. 332 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,720 They do amazing work. The layers on that cover are 333 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,680 absolutely fantastic and that's one of my favorite things about 334 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,960 the way they do with their collage art. 335 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,200 And the same thing comes through with this Azac cover. 336 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,280 It's clearly flat because it's two-dimensional, but yeah, 337 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:02,640 obviously 2 dimensional people. But the layers of the statue 338 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,920 with a mountain behind it and then the the the tower here, 339 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,760 coming forward to the dancers, coming forward to the person 340 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,720 watching. Coming forward to you looking 341 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,120 like you're peering through the the trees and the underbrush 342 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:20,680 with the little, the little lizard right in front of you, as 343 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,520 if you're looking at the scene kind of unfolding before you. 344 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,560 I couldn't. It's such a perfect a piece of 345 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,360 art. But second, for this setting 346 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,320 it's dead on. It's so perfectly weird and 347 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,920 like, yeah, the the whatever those people are dancing around 348 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,320 and worshiping it has that like, you know, soul, soul, swords and 349 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,840 sorcery always has this really weird, like astral occult thing 350 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,040 going on. It's like, Oh yeah, like a 351 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,120 monster from the outer dark or whatever. 352 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:51,720 Or you know, they're worshipping set, the great Serpent of the 353 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,920 dark. It There's always really good 354 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,240 vibes like that, and this perfectly fits into that genre. 355 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,120 Yeah, for sure. Yeah, like I always viewed 356 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:02,720 again, just in my. Again, this is, this is not the 357 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,920 definitions of things. This is my defining. 358 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,840 Right now, by the way, if you're listening this word. 359 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,360 Defining if you if you think of fantasy different than I do, 360 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:14,080 then you're wrong apparently. But to me, a sword and sorcerer, 361 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,320 I always felt a lot more esoteric and sword and wizardry 362 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,920 also always felt more arcane. If that makes sense. 363 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,360 Absolutely. So yeah, it's it's weird. 364 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,960 It's weird. That's the thing that I always 365 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,720 felt like I I never think of a lot of the kind of like, again, 366 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,120 Europe, but not Europe, Western fantasy and and think, man, 367 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:33,560 that's super fucking weird, you know. 368 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,480 But with sword and sorcery, it's always just like, yeah, that's 369 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,280 really weird. There's like a portal to like, 370 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,040 you know the the astral plane and you're going to go battle 371 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,640 some eldritch thing and then come back and have your memory 372 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,440 wipe so you can get on a boat and then go battle Vikings and 373 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,040 shit. Like, you know, like it's it's 374 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,520 it's weird shit, it's like a. Mad Lib of dark fiction, You 375 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,480 know, Yeah. Exactly. 376 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,920 And then all the bad Wizards have bowl cuts, you know? 377 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,600 But yeah, Azag, obviously. Again, just. 378 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,920 Like in real life. Just like in real life, yeah. 379 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,200 If you see someone, if you see a grown human being with a bowl 380 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,560 cut, be careful. Blind. 381 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,560 They're evil, yeah, Especially if they sound like Darth Vader. 382 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,640 So we should. Review this game. 383 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,120 Huh. No, no. 384 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:17,520 We're only 30 minutes into the show. 385 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,920 Anyway, here we go. We're going in so credits again. 386 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,480 Lex Mandrake. Chris Chris Boudreaux, 387 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,960 Diagonaguera, Sofia, Al. I suck at names. 388 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,400 I always think I see them right in my head. 389 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,640 And then I try to say it out loud and I can't. 390 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:38,280 It's a LDULA Aldu Lejean. I'll say Mahar Magas. 391 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,600 These are all people that wrote rules, fiction or setting the 392 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,640 writers of the game artist Liz Mello on the cover, Logan Stall 393 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,320 for interior art and Daniel Walthall for the world map and 394 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,120 then music once again from Loot the Body. 395 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:51,440 I actually listened to it on Band Camp while I was reading 396 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,640 the book. So did I. 397 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,320 So go check out. Already 2 minutes of it. 398 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,240 Yeah, it's only 5 tracks, so it's really good. 399 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,240 The last one's like 11 minutes, but it's it's really good. 400 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,840 A lot of play testers published by LFOSR Leo, where you at? 401 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,880 And there I guess there's like a there's some stuff in it that 402 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,280 kind of relates a little bit to Troika. 403 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,120 So there is a the whole legal disclaimer, this ain't Melsonia. 404 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,280 I didn't feel too much Troika in it, but it. 405 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,160 Is in there dice mechanic that's troika is? 406 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,160 It, yeah. They in the foreword, they talk 407 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,640 about like how they specifically do that 'cause they basically 408 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,960 get rid of like the the second thing, I'm not a huge fan of 409 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:36,000 Troika for the The Matrix, the the the second thing. 410 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:38,600 That's the first thing. Yeah, they get rid of the Matrix 411 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,840 and use a similar ish kind of thing but with dice. 412 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:47,520 So it's like a dice chain, but it does say that it's rules 413 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,600 inspired by Fighting Fantasy and Troika and sitting inspired by 414 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,200 Lovecraft's Dreamcycle, Howards, Conan and Smith's Hyperborea. 415 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,640 So a lot of very, you know, pre 1960s pulpy sword and sorcery. 416 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,720 Goodness, you know, finance. I was good. 417 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,280 I was gonna make him misogyny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 418 00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:09,840 I was gonna make a comment. I was like, that guy's gonna 419 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,440 come comment on our fucking video again. 420 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,640 So, so one thing that I really love, it's it's all it's very 421 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,000 much hyperlinked. Even all of the writers and 422 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,880 artists in here, there's links to all of them that'll link out 423 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,000 to Twitter pages and Bing Camp page and stuff. 424 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,520 Love that. That's fantastic. 425 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,080 The on the right side of the page throughout the entire 426 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,600 scene, the kind of layout is there. 427 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,440 It's two column and there's a black line down the middle of 428 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,240 every page which I like. It looks really nice the. 429 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,960 Right side of this. Yeah, the right side of this is 430 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,880 the contents page and it each of those is also hyperlinked. 431 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,440 But in our version of the PDF there is no there are no 432 00:23:52,440 --> 00:24:03,560 bookmarks, but but on the each page it does say that man, I 433 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,920 must have deleted that page. It does say that there was a 434 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,120 version put out, I believe in 2023 where they went through the 435 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,960 book, fixed some typos and fully bookmarked it. 436 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:15,120 I don't have that version though because I didn't get this from 437 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,400 ITCH. I got this as a direct download 438 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,840 from LFOSR when I got the book. So I don't have the updated PDF, 439 00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:25,400 and I'm not going to pay another $10.00 for the updated PDF when 440 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,000 I already have it. Bookmarks are nice, that'd be 441 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,480 it'd be nice to have it, but if it if it was a drastic 442 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,680 difference or two, EI would. I'm not going to pay 10 bucks 443 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,240 for the PDF already have for bookmarks, so we will not hold 444 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,560 them against them that they don't have bookmarks because 445 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,920 they do, just not in the version we have and we'll just assume 446 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,440 that they did it well. Yes, You know, yeah, I'm 447 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,920 comfortable with that, so. Yeah, so the big difference 448 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,280 between So we're using the version 2 PDF. 449 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,840 This is the second print version that went out. 450 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,120 So it's the combined version of both of the original scenes into 451 00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:03,440 one book. I will say I do think that the 452 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:09,160 two scenes is better in the way that it's kind of put apart. 453 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,680 I I like because it is literally a rules book and a world book. 454 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,920 So when I want to sit and read setting and fiction stuff, I can 455 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,680 just pull this one and when I want to read the rules, I can do 456 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,880 this one. But that is not to say that this 457 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,800 isn't, this is bad by any stretch of the imagination. 458 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,640 It's really good. It's just I do love. 459 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,960 I love when things are like one big volume, but at the same 460 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,560 time, I think I like even more and I'm developing overtime. 461 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,480 I'd rather have a bunch of little scenes because when I 462 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,080 want the part that I want, I can just have the part that I want. 463 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,400 I think it kind of depends for me on the thing, but I will say 464 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,840 that this seems like one of the things right. 465 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,320 I kind of want 2 little scenes for. 466 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:47,640 It. Yeah. 467 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,840 Well, and the cool thing too, is that you get that second scene. 468 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,160 The art is in here, of course, but the second scene does have 469 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,760 the really, this really, really beautiful art of this like giant 470 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,880 bat creature thing. Kind of snooze in a way. 471 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,240 So that's really, really cool. Again, not to say that this 472 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,240 version is in any way bad at all. 473 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,960 I just, I really liked the way that the world, the rules were 474 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,560 were separated in the original version. 475 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,360 What they do in this version is they kind of memento it a little 476 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:15,200 bit, kind of if you know the way that works. 477 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,840 But basically what they did, there's a lot of short fiction 478 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,200 throughout the book and between each section they basically 479 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,760 stick a piece of short fiction. So to start the next section, 480 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,440 there's always like a one page of something set in a zag in 481 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,240 some way, shape or form. And so it's cool, it's easy to 482 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,080 skip if you don't feel like reading the fiction. 483 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,360 So when I first read it, I read it in the bigger book, so I 484 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,280 didn't have to take these other ones out of the plastic because 485 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,360 that's where they're going right back into. 486 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,840 But I read all the rules and everything that was not fiction 487 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,680 1st and then went back and read all the fiction as like, you 488 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,400 know, a big story and that was a fun way to read it. 489 00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:59,040 So yeah, so the full word. This is 1 giant page with a 490 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,000 whole lot of writing on it. It's really interesting. 491 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,440 Did you skip this? I did skip this. 492 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,200 There's a lot of blocky texts in here where I'm like, man, you 493 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,480 know what you could do? You can make this less blocky 494 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,080 text, and this is one of them. I don't. 495 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,400 I don't disagree with you, but I'll explain why I do. 496 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,320 When we get there. I don't mind the forward at all 497 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,640 because the forward here is really interesting because they 498 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,400 tell you right off the bat this whole like, you know what RPG 499 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,040 is, right? It's this, You have dice, you 500 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,040 have pens, you have paper. So like, you're not telling me 501 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,320 that. It's it's more of just like, I 502 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,760 wish more books had this forward here. 503 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,560 I really, really do. Because it literally says, like, 504 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:43,600 This is why I made the game, This is what inspired the game, 505 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,760 this is what inspired the rules for the game. 506 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,280 This is what inspired the setting. 507 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,240 This is why I chose these parts to inspire the setting. 508 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,600 It goes into the whole thing about Howard and Lovecraft and 509 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,200 all that and basically says like how can we do all of that shit 510 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,520 without like the weird racism and misogyny, you know without 511 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,520 the over sexualization, without all of that. 512 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,440 They're like we're we're pulling out all the parts that we really 513 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,320 loved and leaving behind all the parts that we don't need to 514 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,600 bring into 2024. So I I really like it. 515 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,560 And then again it starts saying in a roundabout way this is the 516 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,960 setting, this is, this is This is why I'm doing it. 517 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,120 This is why I put it the way together that I wanted to and 518 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,920 then goes into like think the artist and and and talk about 519 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,320 like actually putting all together. 520 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,400 I wish more books had this. It's only one page long and 521 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,280 really getting to hear from the the writer from Lex about how 522 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,720 and why they put it together the way that they did was really 523 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,440 interesting and give you a nice insight and I think that would 524 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,440 be helpful on a lot of other games. 525 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,280 It's only in one page it looks a little dense but it it's worth 526 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,280 the read to kind of get into the the mind of the creator. 527 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,560 So it's really it's it's worth reading. 528 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,640 We're not going to read it it it's interesting though I liked 529 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,120 it world map of the known world. It's interesting. 530 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,960 The world is round. I say that unlike Hyperborea, 531 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,360 where the world is flat, I guess also around, but like flat. 532 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,160 It's cool to see this too, because a lot of the short 533 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,120 fiction specifically references a lot of the places on the map. 534 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,680 Absolutely, yeah. Which and I really like. 535 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,120 I really like the way that they use the short fiction instead of 536 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,360 really just giving you chunks of like setting material to to set 537 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,520 those areas a little bit more as opposed to there is some setting 538 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,520 material for those areas. But I love when you can get in. 539 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,440 It's not implied setting, but it's not, it's not giving you 540 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,240 just like textbook version of setting. 541 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,000 It's allowing you to read the fiction to get the vibes a 542 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,160 little bit more really interesting. 543 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:37,160 I like that a lot, The name of the world, so the headers for 544 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,880 all of the each section do this specific vibe right. 545 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,400 They have this style of writing which is a very sweepy you know, 546 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,280 almost I I almost looks like brush pen kind of font at the 547 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,080 top. Then they do a rectangle piece 548 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,320 of art, usually bursting out of the frame which looks really 549 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,000 fantastic. And I don't know if you noticed 550 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,320 that every setting is each section is color-coded. 551 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,200 Yeah, I guess it is. Yeah, I guess I did kind of 552 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,880 notice that, yes. Yeah, so the first section is 553 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,240 yellow and it is the world. It's a picture of a boat leaving 554 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,640 like a city, with the boat kind of coming out towards you with 555 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,040 like these pterodactyl like creatures flying next to them. 556 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,040 They're coming out at you. And then first you get into the 557 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,920 first piece of fiction. This is from Lex Mandrake. 558 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,520 This is a cool one. It kind of gives you the, the, 559 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,480 the initial kind of where are we? 560 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,920 What is a zag? You know, from the perspective 561 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,120 of somebody in it and traveling and saying like, some people 562 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,480 call it this, some people call it that. 563 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,360 You know, it's really good. It's really interesting. 564 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,080 I liked it a lot. I do really like that part, 565 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:41,800 yeah. Yeah. 566 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,480 But names of the world. Yeah. 567 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,480 Mm hmm, sorry, my my Adobe Acrobat just crashed on me. 568 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,520 So I'm like listening to where you are without being able to 569 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,840 follow along. Oh, no, you're good. 570 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,360 Yeah. So we're not gonna read any of 571 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,400 this short fiction by the book. Read it. 572 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,480 It's good. I like it. 573 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,880 Yeah, remind me when we start. Whenever I pick some piece to 574 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,280 rant about the layout, remind me to just rant about something 575 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,320 else. Character sheet, whole page 576 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,160 here. That's fine. 577 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,520 I like it. Easy to extract that right out 578 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,120 and use it. The character sheet. 579 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,120 We can talk about that little bit when we get to talent. 580 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,960 I yeah, the character sheet do. You have feelings about it. 581 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,520 I don't have feelings about it, so. 582 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,080 Yeah, yeah, I do. When we get to talent, I'll talk 583 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,760 about it. I like the character sheet. 584 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,560 It's a hand drawn character sheet and still legible. 585 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,760 The the whoever has, whoever wrote this has way better 586 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,200 paymanship than me. I like it. 587 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,400 It's clean, it's nice, It's easy enough to be a card. 588 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,400 And on the character sheet on the side there's even like the 589 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,720 initiative order, the distances, there's some of the rules you 590 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,240 need, like right on the sheet, which is always really nice. 591 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,560 You don't have to reference some things, all right, So going into 592 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,600 rules, the yellow section here. So there is a section here for 593 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,080 safety tools right off the bat. It's lines and veils. 594 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,800 Use them if you need them. It's always nice to always 595 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,160 encourage them, even just as a nice setting of the the bases 596 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,360 for you. So how to roll? 597 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,440 So basically this game has two types of roles. 598 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,080 It is a 2D6 system, kind of sometimes. 599 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,520 For the most part. At its at its core, yeah, it's a 600 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,280 2D6 system. There are opposed rolls also 601 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,720 called rolling against, and there are unopposed rolls, also 602 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,320 called testing right? In either case you do 2D6 kind 603 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,160 of most of the time sometimes. So making an attack for example 604 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,960 is opposed roll, which is really interesting. 605 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,880 We'll get into that a little bit more, but both anytime you make 606 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,560 an attack, both people always roll dice against each other, 607 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,920 which is cool. And then an unopposed roll would 608 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,320 be like searching for something. So you might do a test for an 609 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,120 awareness ability. I don't mind that. 610 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,760 I think it's interesting. It's interesting to frame it 611 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,840 that way into being opposed to being unopposed and and framing 612 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,840 like everything you do as whether you're being opposed in 613 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,040 doing it or unopposed in doing it. 614 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,600 Yeah, I don't necessarily have an issue with it. 615 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,120 I think it's fine. Yeah. 616 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,800 I mean, I always love roll under and I do like later on when we 617 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,480 get to skills. I like how you build the 618 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,440 thresholds specifically. I do actually really like that 619 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,320 system, so. Oh yeah, I I forgot to say. 620 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,720 So when you're doing the opposed rolls, it's it's higher wins. 621 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,400 But when you're doing the tests, it is equal to or under. 622 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,000 Yeah, which is which is cool. It's a roll over roll under D6, 623 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,480 sometimes modified. Yeah, which if you've read 624 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,440 Troika, you know where some of the stuff comes from a little 625 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,240 bit more too. Yeah. 626 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,320 So it's interesting. I like it. 627 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,960 I think it's one of those things where I'm reading it. 628 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,120 I'm like, man, I feel like you're getting confused knowing 629 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,040 when to do what. But it's so like once you do it 630 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,640 twice, like you're fine. It's, I think. 631 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,960 It's a lot of share though. You understand when you're 632 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,800 opposing another person or force. 633 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,080 Right. You want higher. 634 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,280 Yes. Yeah. 635 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,760 Like if I'm looking for something or I'm doing skill or 636 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,320 whatever, yeah, I think it makes sense to me. 637 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,200 You know, yeah, no, it absolutely does make sense. 638 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,840 It does make sense. It's just one of those things 639 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,000 where like when you're reading it, you go really. 640 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,840 But it's one of those things where you know like the second 641 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,680 you do it once you're gonna be like it's that's that's it's not 642 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,800 an issue it's a non issue. And again I've read Troika 643 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,360 modifying roles is where the game kind of gets really 644 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,480 interesting. So this is where the dice chain 645 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,760 cannot comes in right. So when a situation is tilted in 646 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,360 a negative or positive way, the gym can choose to modify the 647 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,800 dice rolls right to to reflect the dynamics. 648 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,800 This is accomplished by changing the die type involved. 649 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,600 The higher the die, the more impactful the situation. 650 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,000 So dice can be changed from 2D6 to 2D8 to 2D10 or 2D12 depending 651 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,080 on the severity. So for example, a thief is 652 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,000 loaded down with treasure attempting to escape an area. 653 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,159 They could be encumbered. So the DM could say roll 2D8 for 654 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:41,320 your test roll, right? So because it's a test roll, 655 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,560 it's a roll under right? So this is the part that I'm 656 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,360 curious about though and I don't know if it's just a bad example. 657 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,239 My brain goes, I need to roll under my value. 658 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,679 Oh yeah, no, no, no. It's higher dice. 659 00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:56,800 So your average to roll is higher, so it's harder to get 660 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,360 under. Never mind my brain worked this. 661 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,080 I had the same problem when I first read it. 662 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,760 So basically your your threshold is going to stay the same, but 663 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,240 your dice will get bigger which means your average roll will be 664 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:11,520 higher. So yeah, so that's kind of how 665 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,600 advantage, disadvantage, like difficulty class, like all of 666 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,760 that works in this is basically, I don't think it's a 2D6 system, 667 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,640 but my my it's not an issue. My curiosity is 2D62-D82-D ten 668 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,480 2D12. If 2D6 is the base, I want to 669 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,160 know when the heck you're ever going to be rolling 2D10 or 2D12 670 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,280 to. Yeah, I don't know that I'm 671 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,160 incredibly enthused about this part I actually have in my notes 672 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:43,080 can modify die size. Why like this the the little my 673 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,920 note says I I don't think I like this. 674 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,280 Like I think the beauty of the the role under and even like the 675 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,920 role like opposed modifier like especially for role under is 676 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:57,080 that it's very much on the play like the player like the player 677 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,120 if they fail it's on them because they they rolled it's 678 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,120 their threshold that they're beating right. 679 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,520 And I feel like there's also like, yeah, there's a weird 680 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,880 vagueness with like, OK, well, the dice can go up and down. 681 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,560 This is kind of an example. But yeah, when do I roll 2D12, 682 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,080 like twice, you know, much bigger die size. 683 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,480 You know, like, what does that look like? 684 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,280 Like, I think maybe with this is like a step up, step down. 685 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,080 Like, yeah, you know, one of you has the high ground, you know? 686 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,840 And you know how important that is, especially with lightsabers. 687 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,480 So yeah. And on this opposed roll, like, 688 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,480 the enemy's going to roll D fours because you have a better 689 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,000 positioning. I can kind of get that. 690 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,800 But like, I think maybe there's just a little vagueness in here 691 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,680 for me. Yeah, I also go I go ahead. 692 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,080 No go for it. Finish it up. 693 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,040 No, I think that was the finishing of my thoughts ago. 694 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,320 Yeah, so, so OK, so let's so my my original thought too was 695 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,760 like, where's the de force and? Oh, does it say De force? 696 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,680 Yeah, I just pulled it out. No. 697 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,960 There are no de force, right? Yeah. 698 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,480 So you your base role is the lowest possible modifier on that 699 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,880 chain, right? As opposed to one being higher, 700 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,320 one being lower, you know what I mean? 701 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,040 So like, I think this would be really interesting if it was 702 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,960 like you're a 2D6, and like if you have like advantage roll 2D 703 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,480 four, and if you have disadvantage roll 2D8, that'd be 704 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,160 interesting. I'm really curious about the 705 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,560 dice chain though, going again, this is something I think will 706 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,840 come out in play, but I'm curious again, like when you 707 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,440 yeah, when are you literally doubling the difficulty? 708 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:29,560 But the other thing too is the average of 2D6, right? 709 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:38,080 Is 7 right? Yes. 710 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:39,520 OK. Do you know what the average of 711 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,240 2D8IS? No, I don't know what is it. 712 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,800 It is two more than that. Right, OK. 713 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,320 Yeah. And the average of two D 10. 714 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,160 Guess how many more than that is, is it's a 2D10. 715 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,160 Two more than that. Two more, what do you think the 716 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,960 average on 2D12 is? Well, since I just pulled it up, 717 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,000 I know it's 13, so yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 718 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,840 So it's roughly each each advancement in this dice chain 719 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,440 is basically +2. Yeah. +2 So you're going, so I 720 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,040 could just. So wait, hold on, I could just 721 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,240 do +2 then. You could, you could, I don't 722 00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:17,600 mind not doing that because that's just the average, your 723 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,240 odds of actually hitting that like is like hitting any direct 724 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,080 number is like 16% or something like. 725 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,640 So there is way more swing potential in it, but this comes 726 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,560 down to, I guess my my question with this and this isn't, this 727 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,520 is just my thought process out loud is like, what's the like? 728 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,600 What's the point? Like what what you said is like 729 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,040 why? Why did why did they decide to 730 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,600 make this a dice chain specifically? 731 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,520 Because like if you could do the same thing by just doing a + 2 732 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,200 or a -, 2, you you have roughly the same thing. 733 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,560 You're still rolling dice and then just getting a + 2 or a -, 734 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,040 2. So they're still swing to it, 735 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,320 right? There's more swing once you're 736 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,520 going to two D12 versus 2D6 plus two or two D 6 + 6 or something 737 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,400 like that, you know what I mean? It's very different, but I'm 738 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,320 curious why you're starting at the very bottom of the driest 739 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,680 chain for difficulty. You know, you and me both are 740 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,560 not huge fans of GM setting difficulty values anyway, 741 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:16,760 because it it, it instills kind of a even subconscious level of 742 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,920 not antipathy. You know what I mean? 743 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,240 Like, what am I looking for? Like a ME versus GM? 744 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,520 Adversarialness to the GM. I will say that I I'd like to 745 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,040 modify my position there in that I've read a couple games 746 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,640 recently where there's only like 3 difficulty options and like, 747 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,480 no, you just pick from these three. 748 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,960 I'm like OK, that feels a little better than like 5 E you know 749 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,080 are my favorite game where I'm just like yeah, it's a 14, it's 750 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,200 a 13, it's a 15, it's a 16. It's fuck knows. 751 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,440 I will say yeah I am a bigger fan of the role under because it 752 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,280 really puts the the onus off. Thank you for iterating that for 753 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,280 on the player and I don't know, I don't know that I have like a 754 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,840 massive problem with dice modifier. 755 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,440 I think it's a little vague and I think also yes starting at the 756 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,680 bottom I do think is an issue for me because there should 757 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,680 always be a step down, you should have it be harder for 758 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,000 you, right. And I guess the quick, the quick 759 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,880 answer to that is like we'll just step up the enemy then, but 760 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,520 you know. Yeah, that's. 761 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,720 So that's, that's, that's interesting, you know, because I 762 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,800 mean the other thing too is if you're able to modify versus 763 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,560 like if this is an unopposed role, Oh yeah, the only, the 764 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,920 only way to to modify it is to make it harder, right. 765 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,760 And then if it's an if, it's an opposed role, if you're using 766 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,800 this dice chain system, the only way to modify it is to make it 767 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,080 easier theoretically. So I think this is one of the 768 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,560 ones where I really want to see it play. 769 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,240 I want to play this ice chain, see how it feels 'cause this 770 00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:48,360 could easily be one of the ones where we go, oh never mind, this 771 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,080 is this works totally fine and. There's been play rules in the 772 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,640 past that have been like that, so. 773 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,080 But looking at it objectively, I had the same issues you had 774 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,000 where where my first thought too was like. 775 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:04,000 This feels complicated and I'm curious if the what you get from 776 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,240 it is worth the complication. Yeah it's isn't true. 777 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,200 So another take on this and and we'll move past this one rule 778 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,600 here pretty soon because that's my file thing on and I'm I'm 779 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,320 sure you're close down on it. But the only like the first 780 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,840 thing came to mind in reading this rule was Wolves upon the 781 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,080 Coast. Because in that one you know 782 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,000 it's 2D6 system but you can make them roll 3D6 if it's a little 783 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,960 if it's like a more difficult task which once again not 784 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,880 something I'm in love with but it's very clean because you're 785 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,560 really just adding one more die of the same size you know. 786 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,440 And so I think it's a little bit easier to parse out maybe 787 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,560 internally in my brain. Yeah, I mean they definitely, 788 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,240 there's a part in here I can't remember where it is, where they 789 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:49,480 specifically talk about wanting to use the dice chain and stuff 790 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,640 like that. And I'm so you know if that's 791 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,680 your thing is you just really wanted to use a dice chain and 792 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,280 this is the way the dice chain work, that's totally fine. 793 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,520 Again, this is one that I want to to play and see before you 794 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,520 know giving like a this doesn't work and I don't like it. 795 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,760 You know, I'm just curious. These, these are the things that 796 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,520 I think when I first see it is. Yeah, these are things that keep 797 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,440 going through. Yeah, yeah, you know, honestly 798 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,360 standard. So this the stats and their 799 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,000 uses. You got 3 stats, Skill, stamina 800 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,560 and Luck. Skill is a representation of how 801 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,040 good your character is at stuff. You get points and there's 802 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,320 thresholds and we'll go over that later. 803 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,360 Stamina is a representation of your character's health and 804 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,960 endurance. It's basically your HP kind of 805 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,240 in a in a good abstracted way. When you brought to 0 stamina 806 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,080 you were unconscious. It must be healed by given time 807 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,960 to recover. If you lose stamina while 808 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,160 unconscious, you die, and then Luck is a representation of how 809 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,160 lucky your character is. The stat is tested in a variety 810 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,280 of situations, but is reduced every time it is tested 811 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:53,160 successfully, and it's a stat that you can use on ability 812 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,080 testing when you are untrained in that ability. 813 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,040 So it's a, it's a. It's a nice catch all for you. 814 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,040 Yeah, I like the stat spread this, by the way. 815 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,440 The scale stem luck. It's interesting. 816 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,880 I do. I really. 817 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,760 I didn't at 1st. And as we read through, I'm 818 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,840 like, OK, go ahead. No, it's because it's a skill 819 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,000 based game, not a staff based game. 820 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,200 You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, which it does well, 821 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,160 but skill based games aren't my favorite. 822 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:29,160 But we'll get to that. So the social encounter before I 823 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,480 read it. Initial thoughts. 824 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:38,160 Oh, I was not massively stoked on this. 825 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,360 I'm not. I don't. 826 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,360 I'm not a fan. I read it one time and I did not 827 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,880 take any notes on it and I was like I don't want this is your 828 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,640 section of this book anyway so. Yeah. 829 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,720 So I so it's an it's interesting. 830 00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:53,120 I I think it's an interesting mechanic. 831 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,600 It's a it's a cool way to say if you want rules for so everyone 832 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,560 bitches about not having rules for social encounters all the 833 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,200 time. That's true. 834 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,640 They do, right. So they give us rules for social 835 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,840 encounters and that's great. They're not my favorite. 836 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:12,920 Basically it's poker, it's Texas Hold'em, and that's just social 837 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,920 encounter but with dice. So let's go through it real 838 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,640 quick and then I'll say what what I'll say stuff, because 839 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,800 that's what I did. So social encounters are 840 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,320 mechanics. They're triggered when the 841 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,160 players in GM controlled entity, like in ABC, you're at odds with 842 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,640 each other. So first of all, you determine 843 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,640 your there's five steps to this determine your opponent's 844 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,920 disposition. Everyone has. 845 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,240 Every monster has a disposition. It's either listed, and if it's 846 00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:38,080 not, you can do There's a one through 6. 847 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,480 There's hostile, angry, wary, and different, friendly and 848 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,400 helpful. Again, everything is opposed or 849 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,600 unopposed rolls. So each of these dispositions 850 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,600 has a dice D4 all the way up to D12, with hostile and angry at 851 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,640 the top of D12, right? That can be anything, right? 852 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,160 So when the social encounter begins, the gym will tell the 853 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,480 players where the opponent is on that list, right? 854 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,240 Are they at indifferent? Are they at wary? 855 00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:00,400 Are they angry? Whatever. 856 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,120 What are they? So Step 2, the players will roll 857 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,880 in secret. The players roll 2D6 and their 858 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,320 opponent rolls two of the die type designated by the 859 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,080 disposition, right? So if you're wary here, it's AD 860 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,400 10, so you, the player, roll 2D6. 861 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,920 I roll 2D10 and you keep. That D force. 862 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,080 So there are AD fours though. I just realized this. 863 00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:22,640 In in this specific. Oh, OK, good. 864 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,440 Gotcha. Did you see? 865 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,920 Because maybe I'm wrong, but I there are no D fours listed in 866 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,640 the modifying roles and it specifically talks about the IT 867 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,280 says dice maybe change from 2D6 to 2D82-D10 or 2D12. 868 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,360 It never says 2D fours. Yeah, I guess you're right. 869 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,600 It's just interesting that almost immediately afterwards 870 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,600 there's the post role where the enemy can have 2D fours. 871 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,160 Where the enemy can have two D fours, yeah, that's what's in. 872 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,120 So I think the enemy might be able to have them, but I don't 873 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,960 know if the GM can modify the player. 874 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,640 I mean obviously you can do whatever the fuck you want but 875 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,200 like when we're going over system, system matters, you know 876 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,400 SO2D4 here. Yeah that's what's interesting 877 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,080 is like they exist in the game but it it's not listed in the 878 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,160 modifying role section. So so you roll in secret. 879 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,440 So basically like I roll 2D10 because I'm going to say my guys 880 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,800 wary, you roll 2D6 and we both keep that hidden. 881 00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:08,640 We keep that number hidden for what we get. 882 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,520 OK. And then Section 3 is called up 883 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,320 the ante. So basically you, I don't 884 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,120 remember the Texas poker and the Texas, the Texas hold'em names 885 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,200 when you get the first three cards and and you get to no. 886 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,040 When you know your first two cards, you keep secret. 887 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,880 You know what I mean? I'm just saying words all the 888 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,560 way. I know that's. 889 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:28,680 Correct. I think the the river is like 890 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,520 the fifth card. I don't know, but basically if 891 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,520 you're playing Texas holdem your first two cards, you get face 892 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,400 down and no one sees them. That's exactly what just 893 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,880 happened. You'd get two dice you you know 894 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,440 roll them and you see what your what your dice are and you keep 895 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,200 those number hidden. Then you up the ante. 896 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,480 You go around the table. Each participant can choose to 897 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,520 ante, so doing so represents the players or their opponents, 898 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,640 adding to their side's argument in an attempt to tilt the odds 899 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,560 in their favor. This can be illustrated by 900 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,320 offering relevant or valuable items. 901 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,240 So basically, you're supposed to not just use a mechanic, you're 902 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:02,680 supposed to actually flavor up your ante. 903 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,440 Like give a speech, give something cooled, give 904 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,640 something, contribute something to the social encounter, right? 905 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,520 And if you contribute something to the social encounter you get 906 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:18,360 to spend, you spend one luck and you roll another D6 and the GM 907 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,240 may choose to lower or raise this luck cost depending on the 908 00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:22,680 narrative. That's another time the GM can 909 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,000 change it. They can be like actually it's 910 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,360 going to take you 3 luck for this. 911 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,920 The GM controlled participant can anti but do not spend luck 912 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,840 to do so. All anti dicer revealed and kept 913 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,600 on the table. My immediate question with that 914 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,720 is what's the limit? Because they can just fucking 915 00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:42,200 anti all day then #4 fold or double down after every so. 916 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,720 I also think though that like in step #3 everyone sees that the 917 00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:48,840 new your new die, so you they can see that you roll A6 or A1 918 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,200 or whatever right? So step step #4 fold or double 919 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,440 down. After everyone has had a chance 920 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,680 to ante, the players or the opponents have the option to 921 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,960 fold, doing so into social encounter. 922 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,520 If the players fold, there's no change in their opponents 923 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,560 disposition. That's it. 924 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,440 The social encounter is over, you folded, you're out. 925 00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:08,440 Alternatively the players may choose to double down. 926 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,480 Doing so takes us back to Step 2, adding more secret dye to 927 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,720 both sides pools and giving another chance anti folder 928 00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:17,560 double down. This comes with the risk so this 929 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,080 is adding more secret dye. When a player does this spin one 930 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,720 luck and roll 1D6 the GMA choose to look so it never says in 931 00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:30,760 Section 3 if you continue to like keep that number hidden or 932 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,680 not. But in Section 4 it specifically 933 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,000 says adding more secret dice to the pool. 934 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:41,560 So I'm not sure then if the the new roles are visible or not. 935 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,600 I would make them visible so then you can be like, oh they 936 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,080 got a one, they got a six you know. 937 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,160 But we'll see step #5 reveal and resolve both sides, reveal all 938 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,400 hidden dice and add any Oh yeah see and add any anti dice. 939 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,920 So never mind. So all the anti dice are 940 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,280 visible. Whichever side has the highest 941 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,720 value wins. If the players win, the 942 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:02,360 opponent's Disposition is set wherever the players want. 943 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,480 So I can get take them from wary to helpful. 944 00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:07,360 You know, if the players lose, their opponent's Disposition 945 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,200 drops by one step, then another step for each time the players 946 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,440 double down. This may trigger combat. 947 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,920 So if you're at Wary and you ended up twice and lose, I can 948 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,120 bump it all the way to Hostel and we immediately go into 949 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,920 combat. Yeah, this is a this is a 950 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,040 procedure. It's a procedure. 951 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,080 It's definitely a procedure. What's that one procedure based 952 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,080 TCRPG? Yeah, this is this is errant 953 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,840 core right here. Yeah, yeah. 954 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,320 So I think, I think this is, I personally think this is really 955 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,640 interesting. I think 222 couple of things 956 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,880 right off the bat. One one of the only real issues 957 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:53,720 I see with this system is how mechanical it is and how easy it 958 00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:57,640 would be to just have zero RP or narrative in it whatsoever. 959 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,920 You could literally just be like rolling dice, going dice. 960 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,360 It can turn into a mini game really quickly. 961 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,560 And the only part of the system that really talks at all about 962 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:12,760 inputting any narrative or RP is like one line in Section 3 where 963 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,560 it says if you want to anti up, contribute something, you know, 964 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,920 give, give. But it specifically says offer a 965 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,600 relevant item or valuable or an or a piece of information or 966 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,400 taking a persuasive action. Like, I don't. 967 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:32,000 I would have liked a lot more about being like, really dig 968 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,960 into it, you know, do whatever. I don't. 969 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,560 I definitely don't hate this. This is definitely not for me, 970 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,240 and I agree I think it would. It would benefit a lot from 971 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,240 maybe a lot of it or all of it being my moved over a little bit 972 00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:53,440 to more of a narrative like RP thing that also uses the dice 973 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,040 mechanic. But fairly clever system, you 974 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,200 know. I think it's. 975 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,440 Clever. It's one of the things that I 976 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,520 think is clever, but I'm not going to use, you know, like the 977 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,200 Trigistec. Yeah, but here's the other thing 978 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:06,520 too. Here's the other problem. 979 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:12,000 The the quote UN quote problem I have with it, right, is it 980 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,880 specifically says like when you ante up, you can roll 1 lock 981 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,400 dice, right, And then do something narrative, but it 982 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,600 doesn't matter. That's my problem, is it doesn't 983 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,720 matter what you do, right? If I if I give you a little item 984 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,760 or I give a 15 minute speech, you get one D6. 985 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,320 Right. So you're gonna have a lot of 986 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:36,080 people like falling into unless there's a lot of GM 987 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,800 encouragement, a lot of GA, lot of buy in, and a lot of people 988 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,560 like really making in a thing. If it starts to like wind down 989 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,920 at all, it's just going to be rolling dice because like what's 990 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,760 the difference to get AD six, you can just do the minimum 991 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,640 amount of ever and still get the same role, right? 992 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,240 Yeah, it's. Not like incentivizing actual 993 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:55,480 social activity. It it's it. 994 00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:59,160 It's a gamifying social, you know. 995 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,560 It's a little more social activity as a game, but yeah, 996 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,120 like, this is an. Unlisting role. 997 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,160 Like, yes, yeah, yeah. But like I said, the other thing 998 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,040 too is like, you can do anything you want narratively to just get 999 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,360 the dice and that's the only part of this that has anything 1000 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,720 to do with it. But like, so that means nothing. 1001 00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:19,680 That I do realistically matters because if I anti up five times 1002 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,480 and every five and all five times like I have, I give a 1003 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,320 speech and people are like crying because it's so great. 1004 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,480 And the next time I give away like a + 20 magical sword and 1005 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,320 like I can do everything possible, but if I roll ones and 1006 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,120 everyone on my dice, I lose anyway and it doesn't fucking 1007 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:35,920 matter. You know what I mean? 1008 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,520 Like, that's the part that I'm not a huge fan of is because it 1009 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:47,200 is all 100% just dice for luck on your dice rolls and you know 1010 00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:50,360 and you're spending luck to to increase. 1011 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,600 But if the bad guys can ante every time you ante, then you're 1012 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,440 always rolling against potentially the same exact 1013 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,400 number of dice but like higher right off the bat. 1014 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,040 And realistically, no matter if both sides are anteing all the 1015 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,520 time and the averages are roughly the same, like it really 1016 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,960 just comes down to your very first dice roll. 1017 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,120 Then like everything you add after that, again, doesn't 1018 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,400 really matter what I like, I don't. 1019 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,720 I think the card mechanic is interesting. 1020 00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:17,320 You know what I think would be a, a, a. 1021 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,960 A. More interesting, in my opinion, 1022 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:24,240 game to use for this interaction or a a similar mechanic you 1023 00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,880 could create is a blackjack mechanic. 1024 00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:31,160 Oh yeah, where it's a social encounter, I want to convince 1025 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,880 you without pissing you off, so I want to get as close to 1026 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,040 convincing you as possible. Without going over. 1027 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,840 But if I go over, I have, I have tipped. 1028 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,600 I've tipped the scale against me, you know? 1029 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,160 Yeah. Anyway, that that is a 1030 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,200 procedure. It is a procedure. 1031 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,320 I think that works just fine. I. 1032 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,000 Yeah, I can definitely. Try it. 1033 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,360 It definitely makes sense. It definitely is cohesive and 1034 00:53:53,400 --> 00:54:00,640 would definitely work. It just doesn't feel very RPS. 1035 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,360 It is. It is a lot. 1036 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,120 It is a level of scaffolding that I do not. 1037 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,520 I I do not want or need and not, and I'm not saying that 1038 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,640 derogatorily. I think people out there who 1039 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,040 want more scaffolding in their social encounters. 1040 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,880 I think this is great because it really gives you everything that 1041 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,560 you need for it. You know. 1042 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,080 But I personally don't like systems that have social 1043 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,120 encounter rules, because I think social encounters should all be 1044 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,800 done in RP, but everyone's entitled to their own style of 1045 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,320 game. I think people that lean way 1046 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,080 more into the PBTA world might find this really interesting. 1047 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,320 Yeah, I agree. I think it's a very much a good 1048 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,120 like a realm of people. Yeah, people that that that 1049 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,480 really like more scaffolding in their game and if people tell. 1050 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,320 Me about combat. Yeah, so combat is fairly free 1051 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,240 form, which is my favorite. It's like, let me give you 1052 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,760 extremely specific rules for social interaction. 1053 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,480 Immediately after but. Free form combat. 1054 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,880 It's interesting. So Combat NASAG is free form. 1055 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,680 They say that, but it kind of is this. 1056 00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,760 It's kind of it's OSR combat when tensions come to a head 1057 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,800 fight and break out so important notes on combat. 1058 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,880 Unless stated, every combatant is only able to deal damage once 1059 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,280 in a round with your GM's permission. 1060 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,680 Many talents can be attempted untrained by substituting, 1061 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,920 substituting luck. We know that and feel free to 1062 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,880 attempt any action and then the GM will just tell you what to 1063 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,600 do. I like that. 1064 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:17,760 I think that's one of the best things. 1065 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,440 Do whatever the fuck you want and then it just becomes like an 1066 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,680 either opposed or unopposed role. 1067 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,680 So actions that you can do in combat. 1068 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,480 You'll be mostly making opposed rolls, but you can also make 1069 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,440 some unopposed rolls, but moving position yourself however you 1070 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,720 would like. You can close the distance 1071 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:33,600 between you. Anyone that is nearby you will 1072 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,760 get the distances in a little bit. 1073 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,760 This assumes you would also be taking another action. 1074 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,680 If you don't want to take another action, move twice the 1075 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,520 standard quick action. To make a general action that 1076 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,240 can be done quickly, Draw a weapon, cut a rope, that's 1077 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:47,160 whatever you can. Do this in conjunction with the 1078 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,880 movement or another action, but not both. 1079 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,520 So you can. Here's your action economy. 1080 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,800 Move twice, move into an action right or move and take a quick 1081 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:01,040 action or but not a quick action and you do a quick action and 1082 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,680 arrange or melee attack but you can't move. 1083 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,120 Do a range attack and a quick action two out of three What it 1084 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,160 sounds like. So range attacks is a roll under 1085 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:17,880 on a range weapon talent and if you hit damaged ice is is 1086 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,280 indicated and they can roll armored ice to reduce and melee 1087 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:27,000 so this so range attacks are roll against and I'm sorry roll 1088 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,360 under like the unopposed. Yeah and melee attacks are roll 1089 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,360 against exactly what it sounds like. 1090 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,160 If you roll higher roll damaged ice is indicated by your weapon. 1091 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,040 If they roll higher they roll damaged ice against you as 1092 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,960 indicated by the weapon or stat block. 1093 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,840 Whoever is taking damage may roll their armor dive to prevent 1094 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,920 damage. The interesting part that I'm 1095 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,160 not that I'm curious about. One of my favorite things that I 1096 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,080 love about Durf is this, like all combat is opposed roles and 1097 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,680 whoever wins the role does damage. 1098 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,440 So if five people hit one person and that one person wins every 1099 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,440 time, they're hitting five people. 1100 00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:06,040 This specifically says unless stated otherwise, each combatant 1101 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:07,600 can only deal damage once in a round. 1102 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,960 So what happens if two people back-to-back attack the same 1103 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,720 person and they roll higher? Huh. 1104 00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:17,920 You know what I'm saying? No, I totally know what you're 1105 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,240 saying. I would let them do damage. 1106 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,440 I would just ignore that roll right now. 1107 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,280 Exactly so spells roll under established spell threshold. 1108 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,280 Boom. Slow actions make a general 1109 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,200 action that takes time to complete, like interacting with 1110 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,600 the trap or whatever. Usually this action cannot be 1111 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,880 used in addition to another one. So basically if you want to take 1112 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,320 your whole action to do something complicated, you don't 1113 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,560 move, you don't do a quick action. 1114 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,200 You just say like I'm going to take my time in combat and focus 1115 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,720 on this one thing and do maybe a a compound action or something 1116 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,720 initiative. This is kicking it back old 1117 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:53,840 school. Basically each type of action is 1118 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,400 how you do the initiative. So there is no initiative role 1119 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,480 in like rolling to see who goes first. 1120 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,080 You are. It goes. 1121 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,040 Movements, quick actions, range attacks, melee attacks, spells, 1122 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,880 slow actions. So anybody that's moving all 1123 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,560 move at the same time. Anyone. 1124 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,480 This is a quick action. All those are quick actions. 1125 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,400 Anyone doing a range attack? All those are range attacks. 1126 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,080 So when the players choose to do what they choose to do 1127 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,720 determines when they act each round. 1128 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,680 Here's a priority of each action from the quickest and longest. 1129 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,840 If more than one combatant falls in the same initiative spot, 1130 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,080 their actions happen simultaneously. 1131 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,200 In the case of a polls rolls, this reduces number of roles 1132 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,880 made. For instance, if a player oh 1133 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,200 this is what this is what fixes it. 1134 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,560 I forgot if for instance, if a player and their opponent both 1135 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,280 make melee attacks, they only need to make one opposing roll. 1136 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,600 So like if I chose to attack and you chose to attack, we only 1137 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,120 roll like we just do the one attack because it's opposed 1138 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,880 anyway, and we don't each get one, we both do one together. 1139 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:58,800 That still doesn't negate if I choose to attack and Bob chooses 1140 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,480 to attack, and we both choose to attack you. 1141 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,640 Yes, right. Uh huh. 1142 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,840 Uh huh. What I'm saying. 1143 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,480 Yeah, I feel like this is another one I'm going to play 1144 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,960 out. So I also always find initiative 1145 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,080 orders like this really interesting. 1146 00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,880 I've never played a game, actually. 1147 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,960 Like, I've read games that use this kind of initiative. 1148 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,920 I've never actually played one. And so I always wonder how this 1149 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,120 feels in practice. Yeah, I I think it'd be really 1150 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,760 interesting. My only question, I guess 1151 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,520 because I don't think they say it specifically, is do you need 1152 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:38,000 to choose all of your actions prior to this starting or after 1153 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,320 each initiative round? Are you changing it? 1154 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,480 Because my thought is you pick all your shit before the 1155 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,960 initiative round starts. It's not. 1156 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,320 It's not adapting as you go. The thing is, like with this 1157 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,760 specific initiative system, I don't know that I have enough 1158 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,640 experience to even have an opinion about it, because I 1159 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,440 don't know. I don't have an opinion either. 1160 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,880 I'm really curious. I'm really curious if you if I 1161 00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:00,400 if I say I'm going to, I'm going to move, I'm going to and then 1162 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,720 I'm going to stab someone with my sword, right? 1163 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,960 And then I move and the person I want to step with them sort of 1164 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,680 moves away. Do I suddenly now say actually 1165 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,680 I'm going to do a range attack? I don't think so. 1166 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,600 Yeah, I don't think so. I think you pick what you do and 1167 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,880 it's really interesting when you see what you wanted to do 1168 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,520 suddenly isn't a thing anymore, you know, then what do you do? 1169 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,080 We run into kind of one of the first things that is kind of a 1170 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,200 beef that I have a giant Mt page. 1171 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,680 The bottom half on page 6 is just, it's like half the it's 1172 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:34,240 1/4 of the pages, it's blank. And that happens a ton through 1173 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:35,960 the rest of the book. There's times where half the 1174 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,680 page is completely blank, and it's very interesting. 1175 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,440 It's great, and I'll talk about why when I find out a more 1176 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,880 egregious version of this. So measurements, combat, 1177 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,960 traveling in game. So rounds are 10 seconds. 1178 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,800 When you're traveling long distances. 1179 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:52,920 There's a whole traveling section we'll go over in a 1180 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,320 little bit in game time. So outside of the two situations 1181 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,360 above, which is traveling in, combat in game time is real 1182 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,080 time. Meh, what? 1183 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,040 Like whatever. So use a clock or timer to keep 1184 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,760 track. But it also says make sure, like 1185 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,640 things like enemy patrols or time straps. 1186 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,440 That makes sense. But it says the players might 1187 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,600 always choose to skip ahead by doing very little for a set 1188 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,440 amount of time. So I can just say, well actually 1189 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,480 we're just going to move forward 10 minutes, but then suddenly 1190 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,600 you're not in real time. But I I don't think it's real 1191 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,800 time like it is now 4:00, it is now 5:00. 1192 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,280 I think it just means like if you're if you're taking 10 1193 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,520 minutes to look at a room, it's 10 minutes in the dungeon. 1194 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,760 Actually 10 minutes. Yeah, which is fine. 1195 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,760 It's it's way better. It's way better than. 1196 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,920 Like the torch, time is a real time mechanic because you can't 1197 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,640 then jump forward in time you know this specifically allows. 1198 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,080 For that I I almost think that that doesn't really need to be 1199 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,120 written down. You know, like it if you're at 1200 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,160 your table, like we're just going to skip ahead 10 minutes, 1201 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,760 like 10 minutes are going to go by like it. 1202 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,760 I don't. I don't know. 1203 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,960 Once again, it's, I think he's a scaffolding. 1204 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,080 I'm just like, I don't need this. 1205 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,080 Yeah, but that's me. Yeah, it's fine. 1206 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,920 It's fine. It doesn't bother me that it's 1207 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,000 there. It wouldn't bother me if it 1208 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,480 wasn't, yeah. I would say that overall like 1209 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,680 stuff in this game that that I would necessarily like. 1210 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,680 Like, I don't. I don't think it's bad, you 1211 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:11,160 know. No, no. 1212 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:12,720 No, no, no. Yeah. 1213 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,200 It's just it's interesting. Distance is exactly what you 1214 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,640 think it is. close, near far. You've played an OSR game. 1215 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,440 As God intended. You know size and weight. 1216 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,520 Same thing. Small and light is 1, medium and 1217 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,840 to moderate is 1 large. Heavy is 1 huge. 1218 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,200 Very heavy is one. Guess what? 1219 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,000 You know what all things, all those things are, right? 1220 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,040 Love. It so the the traveling mechanic 1221 01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,080 is interesting. I do like it and I actually use 1222 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,520 something similar to it. So when I did the evil campaign 1223 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,600 for our Our Dark Kingdoms, anytime we had long travel, I 1224 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:49,440 turned it into a kind of like 40 style challenge like a like a 1225 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,040 ability challenge, right? And what I would have is like 1226 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,440 each I would break it up into specific sections. 1227 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,920 Everyone would pick a section and I would tell them kind of 1228 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,160 what's going on, like what what's their ish. 1229 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,680 And they would have to narrate a story. 1230 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,800 And at some point in that story I would call for an ability 1231 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,440 check and they could use a skill, but once they use that 1232 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,440 skill, someone couldn't use the same skill like on the next one. 1233 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,560 So everyone couldn't just like fight each time or something 1234 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,800 like that. And they could pick their 1235 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:21,400 difficulty 15 or 18 if they got. If they pass the 15, then no one 1236 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,720 dies in any of this stuff. But like basically whatever 1237 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,280 they're try attempting in the story, it all goes bad and you 1238 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,720 have to narrate how you all got away, right if. 1239 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,160 But if you succeed, the story goes your way and you continue 1240 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,720 on. They they got items, they did 1241 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,160 things, you know, whatever. If they pick 18 and they 1242 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,240 succeed, the next person gets the advantage. 1243 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,200 So it's basically like a point crawl where they have to come up 1244 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,160 with a narrative. This feels very similar and I 1245 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,920 really like it. Yeah, it it it it's a it's 1246 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,880 interesting. And this does this the same 1247 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,960 similar way. So covering large distances is 1248 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,560 meant to be told a story their encounters. 1249 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,160 So here the players roll on a table associated with the area 1250 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,960 they're traveling in or through to see what kinds of encounters 1251 01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:02,800 befell them during the journey. A low roll represents a 1252 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,520 difficult encounter, while a high roll is an easier 1253 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:06,320 encounter. Their counters are never meant 1254 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,200 to block the progress, but they do incur costs and encourage 1255 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,120 collaborative narrative. These encounters should be 1256 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,800 presented as questions, such as you found yourself chased by a 1257 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,560 terrible monster, How did you escape? 1258 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,960 After the players talk about what they did, the GM adds to 1259 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,480 the story representing cost or benefit, and you can go through 1260 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,080 the location section in the Places section. 1261 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:29,440 Not hyperlinked. I will say one of the other 1262 01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,480 beefs I have with this. The whole way through is there's 1263 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,840 a lot of references to other sections or parts where it's 1264 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,920 like roll armor dice, but nothing that says find armor on 1265 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,120 page this. You know what I mean? 1266 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,600 I wouldn't mind like AC page X, you know, throughout this little 1267 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,960 bit more, little bit of usability issue. 1268 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:51,560 So there's a whole huge places section where you can roll D6, 1269 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,080 encounter tables and all sorts of stuff. 1270 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:58,120 So there is a one through 6 here on the penalties and cost 1271 01:04:58,120 --> 01:04:59,240 benefits which are really interesting. 1272 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,400 There's a harrowing passage, difficult passage, risky 1273 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:06,200 package, a risky package, a risky package, Uncertain, 1274 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,040 casual, and fortuitous. So best and worst. 1275 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,120 There's three in each one. So for heroin, you could the 1276 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,920 worst penalty. You can lose magic item, or lose 1277 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,360 2D6 Amina, or lose 1D6 luck. The fortuitous? 1278 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,160 You gain a magic item, you regain 2D6 stamina, you regain 1279 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,320 one luck, and there's like a mixed bag in between everything 1280 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:27,920 else spending luck. Basically, yeah, when a player 1281 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,720 wants to tip the odds in their favor, they can use luck to re 1282 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,880 roll a die. Or if you are unskilled in a 1283 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,320 talent, you can use luck to replace that. 1284 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,480 And then there's other options here. 1285 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,080 You can increase the threshold, you can add value like a melee 1286 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,640 attack, damage or armor roll, so you can actually use luck to 1287 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,760 increase the damage. If you want avoidance you can 1288 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,080 use a luck roll to avoid magical calamity recovery. 1289 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:55,800 You can roll up to to recover stamina interesting and then 1290 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,920 using abilities untrained. This last part and basically it 1291 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,640 this is what it's talked about with like the luck thing. 1292 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:05,080 So you can substitute your their your luck stat for any threshold 1293 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,360 or bonus an ability would call for but succeed. 1294 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,560 Succeeding drains a character's luck and but also could justify 1295 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:14,880 them learning and no ability later. 1296 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,040 Some abilities require blah blah blah. 1297 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,800 So this page here, I understand that it's the last page in the 1298 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,440 section, but the entire right side of the page, remember I 1299 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,840 said there's a black line in the middle For those in Pakistan is 1300 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,920 completely blank. It is completely. 1301 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,320 Black almost. The next page as well so. 1302 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,640 I know, right? And there's no, there's no art. 1303 01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,840 There's it's so little spot art through this book. 1304 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,640 Yeah, it's crazy to me. But then suddenly when you get 1305 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,760 to the armor section, it's like slammed all over it, like that's 1306 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,640 a huge miss to me. The other thing that. 1307 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,920 Especially for the second version, like if this was the 1308 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,640 initial version, I'd be like yeah, whatever. 1309 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,680 But they keep. Going please keep. 1310 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,160 Going, oh, the fact this is the like almost the omnibus or like 1311 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,440 the second version that they put out and this is supposed to be 1312 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,600 the full book. It's like you need to put some 1313 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:05,160 spot art in here. So thank you, thank you for 1314 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,720 that. Because remember, I say remind 1315 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,160 me later to tell you something, right? 1316 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,600 Both versions are exactly the same ones, just bigger. 1317 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,920 Let me explain. So see how this book is the 1318 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,560 first version is square. Yes. 1319 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,680 OK, I'm actually gonna turn the Blur off for this. 1320 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,720 For those listening to Podcast Land, imagine my background. 1321 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,120 Imagine it's not blur anymore, I have my blur so actually so you 1322 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,800 don't see the room for once. OK, so you see this, it's more, 1323 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:39,080 it's it's not completely square, but it's much more squarish than 1324 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,560 than a perfect bound, right. So when we. 1325 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,800 Let's go to this page, let's go to this specific page, Let's go 1326 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,280 to the rules page here. OK. 1327 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,200 All right. You see this for those in 1328 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,840 podcast land, you're not going to see it. 1329 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,640 Do you see how much space is at the top? 1330 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,040 Oh. Right. 1331 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,880 Here, OK and you see how much space is at the bottom. 1332 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,600 Well, there's also a whole empty side right there. 1333 01:07:58,600 --> 01:07:59,600 Wait, wait. Here we go. 1334 01:07:59,960 --> 01:08:01,880 This you see? You see how much space is here 1335 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,840 at the top right here? Yes. 1336 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:08,640 Yes, but look at your PDF. See how much space is at the 1337 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,240 top? There is way more space at the 1338 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,440 top and how? About how about the bottom 1339 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,600 right? OK, so then when we look at the 1340 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,640 same page and this one, they just lengthen the. 1341 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,160 Pages and not change anything else. 1342 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,560 They LinkedIn, the pages. It's the, it's even the exact 1343 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,200 same font size. It's everything. 1344 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,960 Let's specifically let's pull this out. 1345 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,560 And that's points right there, brother, let me tell you. 1346 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,880 So there was no reformatting, there was no restructuring, 1347 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,479 there wasn't anything. What they did right was they 1348 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,800 literally just took, let me let me lay these out so you can see 1349 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,920 it in a way that's that way that I want. 1350 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:46,920 You to so you've already done this. 1351 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:48,720 You did this experiment. Yourself, of course, yeah. 1352 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,040 Yeah. Yeah, they're exactly the 1353 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,120 fucking same. What the fuck? 1354 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:56,120 It's exactly the same. Fuck, it's exactly the same 1355 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:57,720 size. Why would you do that? 1356 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:02,040 It's just one is like an inch and a half shorter so it fills 1357 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,680 more of the page and the other just has like massive. 1358 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,800 I know when you're reading the PDF you don't notice it as much, 1359 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,920 but when I was reading the book, there is so much empty page top 1360 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,319 and bottom because they didn't make it bigger, they didn't make 1361 01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:18,000 it wider, they didn't do any. Work. 1362 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,520 Yeah, when you're holding up the book and looking at now and now 1363 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,960 look at the PDF, I can see it. But it's just like they didn't. 1364 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,680 They just put it in a larger size, but they didn't even need 1365 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,040 to put in a larger size book. They could just have the same 1366 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,560 size. Book they could have just, yeah, 1367 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:31,840 they could have just they just made a perfect. 1368 01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:35,000 One my thought. Is these are probably more mass 1369 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:40,840 producible because it's it's the perfect bound like and that's 1370 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,600 why like the paper is like a gloss paper inside this version 1371 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,840 of it versus the other side that has like the thick untreated 1372 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,680 paper and the V1. But that blew my mind when I 1373 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,600 realized it because I was like man it just when I was looking 1374 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,360 at this. It doesn't look as bad when 1375 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:56,600 there's so much empty space at the bottom. 1376 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:58,720 And then as I'm reading this, I'm like, wait a minute, wait a 1377 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,640 minute, like they're not using like, a good like. 1378 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,800 You've been waiting this whole time to drop this bomb. 1379 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:04,520 Huh. Yeah. 1380 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,720 Yeah. And you you you set it up for me 1381 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,920 without me having to specifically say it. 1382 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:13,560 But yeah, there's like a solid. Weird choice to make, but like I 1383 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,840 truly bizarre choice to me. There's basically an inch at the 1384 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,320 top, an inch at the bottom of every single page. 1385 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,720 It's just blank white. It's two inches of pages that's 1386 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,440 just gone. So they didn't reformat anything 1387 01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:24,280 because that was my curiosity. I'm like, why aren't there so 1388 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,000 much blank space? Why don't you just reformat it? 1389 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,160 There's no reformatting. It's literally. 1390 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,200 And again, it's not that it is big or anything. 1391 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,800 It's the exact same size as one that's basically 2 inches 1392 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,920 shorter. You can see the size difference 1393 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,840 here, but it's printed the literally the exact same font 1394 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,120 size, the exact same everything is almost. 1395 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,840 It's just a print inside with page with paper that's like two 1396 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,640 inches longer. My mind is blown. 1397 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,480 You've just busted this scandal wide open. 1398 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,200 We got to go to the press now. Yeah, I do. 1399 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,280 I will say the second one, they did a much more vibrant cover. 1400 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,800 I don't know if you can see the differences now on the podcast. 1401 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,400 Yeah, huge vibrancy. So that's really interesting. 1402 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:05,000 I think the lack of spot art is a huge miss for me, period. 1403 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,040 But I I don't. I don't know what I can feel 1404 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:12,760 besides like weird disbelief about like the fact that the 1405 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,480 second version is is like 2 inches bigger, but it's the 1406 01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:17,080 exact same size. That's. 1407 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,200 That's so truly strange to me. Like there? 1408 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:24,800 Yeah. So moving on. 1409 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,240 Another great piece of art for the City of Masks. 1410 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,840 Another blurb of fiction you should buy? 1411 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,840 Yeah, shout out. We were talking about something 1412 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,600 else they did the other day. What were we talking about? 1413 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,520 Primal Oh yeah, they have a new, they have a new, they have a new 1414 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,200 adventure out on PDF. 50% off if it's still available on 1415 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,640 pre-order. Yeah. 1416 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,200 Fare roll, baby. And then we get to character 1417 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,200 creation. Let me pull up my notes for 1418 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,200 character creation. Yeah, so pretty simple. 1419 01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,800 Seven steps. You roll your stats. 1420 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,960 Each of them has a different like roll mechanic before each 1421 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,240 stat. It's not just three D6 for each 1422 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,360 like in some of the traditional roll under games. 1423 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:12,440 And this one for skill, you roll one D 3 + 3 and stamina. 1424 01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:14,360 Oh man, I rolled a character up and I don't know why I did the 1425 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,320 character sheet. That's OK Stana. 1426 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,800 It's two D 6 + 12 Makes sense. This is your health for the most 1427 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,160 part and a couple other things. So it will be the highest. 1428 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:28,440 And then your luck is 1 D 6 + 6 and after that you're going to 1429 01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:32,320 generate one magic item. My note here is generate 1 magic 1430 01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,520 item in parentheses. Sick because it's very fucking 1431 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,240 cool. I love the weirdness of starting 1432 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,600 with one magic item and the magic items are weird. 1433 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:46,720 I think the one I rolled was a mirrored, a mirrored Talisman. 1434 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,600 And whenever you touched it, you could go into essentially a 1435 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,960 pocket dimension that then you could leave at free will. 1436 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,280 I'm like, oh, you have just like a little storage shed, you know, 1437 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:56,480 a little home that goes with you. 1438 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:58,760 Yeah, very cool stuff. We'll get to that table. 1439 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,160 You got that pocket dimension on a rope situation? 1440 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:06,680 Yeah, yeah, we will. We'll. 1441 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,000 Get to the match. You're not talking about, are 1442 01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:08,600 you not? Are you not? 1443 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,400 Understand what I'm saying? You never, I think. 1444 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,440 I do what What is that reference though? 1445 01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:15,640 It's like you remember like when people would like play like that 1446 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,560 and like the rope would stand like stand up or whatever. 1447 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:19,920 It's like that. But you can. 1448 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,000 When you climb the rope, you go up into like a pocket dimension. 1449 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,640 Perfect that. Anyway, yeah, then you're gonna 1450 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:30,000 choose three mundane items from the item section, not 1451 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,880 hyperlinked and also not page number written down. 1452 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,240 They should have put it there. Add them to your inventory. 1453 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,360 It's assumed that you have basic stuff like a few days of food 1454 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:44,600 and in clothes. You were gonna create 3 traits. 1455 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,360 Is that the next one? I just skipped back to my 1456 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:50,720 distribute skills across talent and spells you wish we'll get to 1457 01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:56,760 and I think is really very cool and I guess by Ryan says. 1458 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,840 I think I'm the only one who thinks that's cool. 1459 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:05,040 That's OK And then you're going to create 3 traits. 1460 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,640 It says here to use always or never statements. 1461 01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,320 I do kind of like the idea. I don't know if I would use 1462 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:14,560 always or never in mine for my character I put like really 1463 01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:23,040 loves or really hates. I think much like RP in general, 1464 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,960 the first time you play D&D, your character is you in your in 1465 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,960 in your version. If you were cool, right? 1466 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,200 If you were cool, elf, you just. Play yourself cool, damn it. 1467 01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:33,160 Right. Yeah. 1468 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,800 I always like I always say play before I'll play whatever. 1469 01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,120 So I I like for your first character or if you're not as 1470 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,560 experienced of an RP or using always and never because it 1471 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:47,280 really makes it archetypal and it lets you really dig into a 1472 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,520 thing. And I think the more experienced 1473 01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,160 you get an RP. That's why. 1474 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,040 Like the first character is always like I'm an elf fighter, 1475 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,880 the dual wields whatever. But like your 10 characters, 1476 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,520 like I'm a I'm a, I'm a bumblebee riding a, a polar bear 1477 01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,040 on a bicycle, right. Like you know that with a 1478 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:05,040 switchblade, you know got 8 personalities like that's your, 1479 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,760 that's your 50th character because you've already done it, 1480 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,000 All right. You're challenging yourself. 1481 01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:09,880 I like. Earlier a new character. 1482 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,680 The always and never is. I like it almost. 1483 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,360 Yeah, making it almost archetypal, like I'm always mad 1484 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,000 when I see Hunter, you know, like and then it allows you to 1485 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,440 always be something and then allows you to add vagaries and 1486 01:15:20,440 --> 01:15:21,680 later. So I I do think that's really 1487 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,600 interesting. I ran a cool game for a while 1488 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,600 with in when I was living in Texas where I hold their their 1489 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,120 flaws essentially from things they said as they were playing. 1490 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,600 And so like at one point the woman was like, Oh my character 1491 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,600 does not like kids. We're really bad with kids And I 1492 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,880 wrote that shit down and later on they had to interact with the 1493 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,760 child and they're like Oh no, you're bad with kids. 1494 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:46,920 And they were like Oh no, I am. But if you like, I think that 1495 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,040 that's me very much loading onto my own plate stuff to do. 1496 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:52,440 But I think this works incredibly well and I think it's 1497 01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:54,800 a good idea. And then the 6th step, which is 1498 01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,840 not the last one, the 6th one, is to discuss the group dynamic, 1499 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,160 kind of about how your party typically works together, what 1500 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,240 kind of party is, who you are within the sphere of this party. 1501 01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:09,560 And then the last step is to name your character. 1502 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,040 At the bottom of the page we do have some examples of character 1503 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,360 traits and examples of group dynamics. 1504 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,760 It's interesting that these examples are right here, because 1505 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,560 there's been a few instances above this where there was some 1506 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,880 empty space in the page, and I think some examples could have 1507 01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,960 been dropped in, yeah? Bro. 1508 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,320 Well, why are you Are you agreeing? 1509 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,080 Did we? I I had just I I looked away for 1510 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,760 a second on my ADHD. Did you get to the next page? 1511 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,120 No, no, we're getting there. Oh my God. 1512 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,640 So between sessions, pretty much you're going to powwow about the 1513 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,680 last session that you played, either at the start of a session 1514 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,000 or at the end of a session and discuss highlights. 1515 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:58,120 And the GM is going to dole out 1D6 luck recovery for to reward 1516 01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,200 players for like very like highlight moments or heavy RP 1517 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,520 moments or moments where they really leaned into the dynamic 1518 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:05,840 that they're taking in the group. 1519 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:13,080 And then there is over half of a pay like, I mean I guess this 1520 01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,680 is, it's a lot of empty space. It's a really ton of empty 1521 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,240 space. And then the next page is going 1522 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,400 to be more ridiculous because it's a whole half empty page. 1523 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,800 Yeah, a couple of pieces of spot art. 1524 01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,480 We've done all really well here. And I think also to kind of 1525 01:17:29,480 --> 01:17:33,760 reinforce the vibe of this because we're very there's these 1526 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,240 large sections of like prose in between the chapters, which are 1527 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,600 great. But if you don't want to read 1528 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,880 them, if you or if you're not the person who like literature 1529 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,200 really sparks that for you. You need the imagery. 1530 01:17:47,480 --> 01:17:49,000 It's so much empty. Space. 1531 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,400 This is what the page looks like. 1532 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,200 I'm holding it up like look at look at. 1533 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,400 In the book, it's really more empty space than it is actually 1534 01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:56,920 written. It's. 1535 01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:58,720 Yeah, it is, yeah. Especially in the book that's 1536 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:00,400 got the inch at the top and inch at the bottom. 1537 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,600 That's blank. Top and bottom? 1538 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,000 Yeah, absolutely. It looks this is This isn't a 1539 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,760 ridiculous spread. It's, it's. 1540 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:10,160 Yeah, it's. Yeah, anyway. 1541 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,400 Yeah, so moving on to the half empty page going to between 1542 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,800 adventures, you could just discuss basically just like what 1543 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,840 your characters do in between adventures, if they're working 1544 01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:28,680 on a skill or talent. Also gives them time or also 1545 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,600 it's also this time also gives the player the opportunity to 1546 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,400 rework their group dynamic based on ways it may have changed due 1547 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,200 to the narrative of the last adventure. 1548 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,320 Cool training wheels to have on cool scout footing to have. 1549 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,720 I don't you know it is what it is. 1550 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:49,720 Character advancement between adventures. 1551 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,720 Characters can attempt to increase their rank and already 1552 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,800 trained abilities. You rule 1D6 under the current 1553 01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,320 use tally. Great mechanic that is not 1554 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:02,960 explained well here. I might actually just go ahead 1555 01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:08,000 and explain this mechanic. Whenever you use an ability or a 1556 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:11,040 talent that you have, there's a little column next to it that 1557 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,480 says uses and you mark it every time you use it. 1558 01:19:13,480 --> 01:19:17,480 And then when you want to advance, you have to roll under 1559 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,680 however many marks you have, Which is a great idea because 1560 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,240 the more you use a talent, the more likely you are to be able 1561 01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:32,240 to improve based on that. Yeah, and once you roll under 1562 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,880 it, all use tallies are removed after that. 1563 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:40,680 To learn a new ability, a player must pick one and declare it, 1564 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,520 typically one that they've attempted untrained or has some 1565 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,120 like narrative reasoning for it. Do you really like that? 1566 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:50,880 Or if they decide laureate, they may do this only once between 1567 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,960 each adventure, Then the GM either rolls or picks from the 1568 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,240 chart below to help explain what learning the new ability cost 1569 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,960 the character. I'm always rolling by the way. 1570 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:06,840 I would never pick. Yeah, and then they don't. 1571 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:09,400 I don't like this. Did you read these? 1572 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,600 I think I did. I cannot. 1573 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,360 Oh, I do. Remember there's a reduce in 1574 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:19,880 rank one. And then I was like, I'm. 1575 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,320 All that, all that, and I don't mind that. 1576 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,920 So #1. The process was dangerous and 1577 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,560 you nearly died living. A turbo scar reduced stamina by 1578 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,160 4, #2 strange forces blah blah blah reduce luck by two. 1579 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,040 Number three, the training was so consuming blah blah blah like 1580 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:39,160 reduce your rank and a random trained ability by 1 #4 price 1581 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,520 demanded, blah blah lose 1 random magic item. 1582 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,960 Number 5 There were those who believe your new training is 1583 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,680 forbidden, blah blah blah Like a GM choose a powerful monster 1584 01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,600 that hunts you the entire time and #6 you find yourself deeply 1585 01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,240 indebted, blah blah blah blah blah. 1586 01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,000 You have a powerful enemy that was that is gonna come make a 1587 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,440 single demand of you. So I personally I love that. 1588 01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:01,000 I think the cost for advancement is fantastic. 1589 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:05,080 In a brutal game where everything sucks, I would be all 1590 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,720 about that and in my mind I go sword and source can get weird 1591 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,760 and brutal, right? But there's nothing in the game 1592 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,280 so far that has said damn, this is fucking brutal as fuck. 1593 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:16,480 Yeah, this is all negative. I do like the five, and six are 1594 01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:18,520 my favorites. Because it's story. 1595 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,160 Yes, because it's a story, because you know their cost. 1596 01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,840 I don't really love the idea of like, hey, you're going to 1597 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:28,520 permanently lose for stamina and you could potentially do that 1598 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,760 multiple times. Yeah, it's like, why would you 1599 01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,360 even? Why would you even try? 1600 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:34,400 I don't. Know. 1601 01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,040 Yeah, like, why would you even try? 1602 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,480 That's my whole point is like, why would you even like? 1603 01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:42,840 To me, again, it all comes down to incentive, right? 1604 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,600 Like you want to increase your stats, you can do stuff better, 1605 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:50,800 but you can potentially lose. For Stamina, you could release 1606 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,880 20. Just for learning a new ability. 1607 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,880 So it just makes it so that you never want to learn a new 1608 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,160 ability. Exactly. 1609 01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,120 Like, so there is no point to advancement, right? 1610 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,000 Like people will because that's the game, right? 1611 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,840 But like, the first time I get fucked, I'm just gonna be like, 1612 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,640 Nah, I'm staying dumb, but I'll just like, I'll just. 1613 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,040 Upgrade my current abilities over and over till they're 1614 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:09,480 perfect, you know? Exactly. 1615 01:22:09,480 --> 01:22:13,960 Exactly like there. It's such AI like the idea of 1616 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,360 learning something new should come with a cost. 1617 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,680 Yeah. But as soon as it's gamified in 1618 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:23,400 a way like this, where the cost is like 5 and six, I think are 1619 01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,040 great. I think being like something 1620 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,000 hunts you like the something's going to come find you. 1621 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,480 But like, as soon as it's like you want to increase your stats, 1622 01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:33,240 so there's a risk that you will actually decrease a very 1623 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,480 important stat by a lot. To me, I'm like, why would I 1624 01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:38,280 ever do? Why would I ever do that? 1625 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,360 The way I rolled this is I would make this a 5050 cable and I'd 1626 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,280 be like one and two or one. Two and three are nothing. 1627 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,240 Nothing happens, right? You just do it and then four you 1628 01:22:48,440 --> 01:22:50,640 you have to pay with a powerful magic item. 1629 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:52,960 Five and six the the way they are right now. 1630 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,240 I keep them actually. I just would remove the first 1631 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,600 three and just be like it's a 5050 chance. 1632 01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:02,840 Either nothing happens and you just learn a new ability or or 1633 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,200 you get fucking in debt, essentially, you know. 1634 01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,800 Yeah, I mean, I don't even mind the things that are there to an 1635 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,320 extent. Like the process was dangerous. 1636 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,120 You nearly died living a terrible scar. 1637 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,040 Period. Period. 1638 01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,880 What's your scar? What's your scar but like? 1639 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:21,160 Do your stamina by 4, you know. Yeah, what's what's your, what's 1640 01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:22,880 your stamina? I mean, what what's your role 1641 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:24,320 for stamina? When you first start, it's not 1642 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,040 that great. Your stamina could be like 5 1643 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:27,840 like. No, I think it's a little bit 1644 01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,800 higher than that, but you know. What I'm saying? 1645 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,040 Because it's two D 6 + 12 for stamina, but like. 1646 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:37,000 Still, Still. Four is a four is not a small 1647 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,080 amount. You know, one maybe. 1648 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:44,520 But also like I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't overly punish 1649 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:45,880 them. I'm fine with things once I like 1650 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,080 you. So I'm fine with things being 1651 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,360 punishing and even wasn't a 5050 table like I'm saying where 1652 01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,040 you're like 01 and two, nothing happens. 1653 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,040 Three is a cost and and above is a cost, right. 1654 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,840 I think that's even fair. But this is just like, oh, this 1655 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,600 just sucks all the way down. And I'm fine with that. 1656 01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:02,920 But this feels like a mark board table. 1657 01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,800 Like, you know what I mean? Like it's just such a random bit 1658 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,280 of, like, punishing brutality in a system that, like, didn't. 1659 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,720 I don't feel like it feels out of place. 1660 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,160 I like it. I think fuck you. 1661 01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,600 But not this doesn't feel like it fits in this game. 1662 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,080 There's a lot of back and forth going through this. 1663 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,640 Even in the example of like we had a super crunchy procedure 1664 01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,680 and then right afterwards like it's really opens format. 1665 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,040 It's like, what is the thing you know? 1666 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,600 How do you define the thing? What's the thing trying to do? 1667 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:38,840 Yeah, all good questions I had asked, OK. 1668 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,520 See the Amaranthine city? I love these arts. 1669 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,440 The in between arts with the new color coding. 1670 01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,400 All sorts of spirals are really good too. 1671 01:24:46,440 --> 01:24:49,560 You know, like just the the dream of the Amaranthan city. 1672 01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,400 It's like, fuck that, bro, Let's let's talk about some sorcerers. 1673 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:59,240 Yeah, another great piece of fiction that adds a lot to the 1674 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,680 world. If only they had done spot art 1675 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,040 like the way they do this, it'd be, this would be. 1676 01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,200 It'd be amazing. Abilities. 1677 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:10,280 Yeah. What did I put here? 1678 01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,400 Cool. So abilities, There are two 1679 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,760 categories of abilities. They're all abilities, all 1680 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,920 right? There are talents and then there 1681 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,480 are spells. Whenever you create your 1682 01:25:19,480 --> 01:25:23,760 character, you distribute the. Your skill that you roll is a is 1683 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:28,520 a static stat, but it's also the amount of points you have to put 1684 01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,120 into talents and spells. It's a. 1685 01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:32,640 Stat and a pool. It's a stat and a pool that you 1686 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,920 spend. You distribute these points, 1687 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,960 right? You cannot have a maximum of 6IN 1688 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,720 anything, even as you you level up and you and you move forward 1689 01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:49,720 calculating talents. So for there's there's three 1690 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,040 ways essentially, right. There's role under. 1691 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,400 So for role under stuff you're building a threshold. 1692 01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:59,240 Threshold will be whatever the rank of that talent is plus your 1693 01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:03,720 skill stat you roll under that. There's role bonus, which is 1694 01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,760 when you're rolling, Opposed is a bonus to the role. 1695 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:11,920 If you have a 2IN something, you just add 2 to your role and then 1696 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:16,480 special says. Here Special is usually listed 1697 01:26:16,480 --> 01:26:19,520 as just your rank and it has some kind of triggering effects. 1698 01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:22,280 I don't. I don't know why the word 1699 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:26,040 usually bothers me right there. Doesn't bother. 1700 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:27,640 Me. OK, well, it might be it'll. 1701 01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,400 It'll last from vagary. You can always add something 1702 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,120 later and be like we didn't say specifically. 1703 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:36,120 It doesn't, you know. That is very true, yeah. 1704 01:26:36,480 --> 01:26:39,800 Using a talent. Using talents. 1705 01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,720 I put Why? Yeah, talents. 1706 01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,160 OK. I don't know why I wrote it like 1707 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:46,320 this. Are meant to trigger in 1708 01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,080 different situations based on the type of talent. 1709 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,200 Was I drunk when I wrote these notes? 1710 01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,320 God damn. I'm just going to read the 1711 01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:58,840 thing. Listen, I took notes, guys, but 1712 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:00,720 apparently they're not very good. 1713 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,360 Oh, I know what I put here. I put here. 1714 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,320 This repeats roll under and bonus stuff from calculating 1715 01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,800 talents above. That's what I wrote here. 1716 01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:16,280 I'm a dumb idiot and maybe I was smoking when I wrote this, but 1717 01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,040 there's a little bit of repetition here about how roll 1718 01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,120 under and and roll bonus stuff works. 1719 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,360 Specials will trigger either optionally or automatically. 1720 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:33,400 For casting spells, you spend stamina to add that much rank to 1721 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,920 the spell that you are casting. That's right, there's blood 1722 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,320 magic in this bitch. This create This creates the 1723 01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:44,960 threshold for your role and then it says check for requirements 1724 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:49,520 for spells and then roll 2D6 equal or below the threshold. 1725 01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,560 It's a it. It's roll under. 1726 01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:56,160 Yeah, it's just you don't add, you just add stamina as your 1727 01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,640 bonus versus adding like your skill or your or your rank or 1728 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,080 anything like that. Yeah. 1729 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:07,200 Yeah. No, you add that value to your 1730 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,280 rank. Rank still counts. 1731 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,640 To your rank in Oh yeah, yeah yeah, you rank in the spell. 1732 01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:14,840 Yeah 'cause you can rank up in your spells. 1733 01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,120 Correct. You don't have to spend stamina. 1734 01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:18,880 Technically, yeah, no. But you can. 1735 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,440 Yeah, but you can. Which I think's cool. 1736 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,440 Yeah. Yeah, There. 1737 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,200 I feel like there. I read through this and I feel 1738 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:31,960 like there's more words than there needs to be. 100% more, do 1739 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,280 you? Also, what's the what's the 1740 01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:34,560 last, what's the last part of that? 1741 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,120 Casting a spell thing, That's super important. 1742 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:41,800 Oh, Oh yeah, If you fail the role, period. 1743 01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:45,080 By the way, not crit fail. If you fail the roll, you have 1744 01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:49,120 to roll on the Magical Calamities table and look at the 1745 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:50,680 end of the spells we're definitely going to roll on. 1746 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,560 Because I do enjoy that table. And like, I feel like the spell 1747 01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:58,840 casting in this is fairly significant and your ability to 1748 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:01,000 modify your spells is also fairly significant. 1749 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,200 So I'm actually kind of OK with like not crit fail. 1750 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,720 If you fail you're rolling on magic calamities. 1751 01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,560 It also carries that kind of swords and swords for you. 1752 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,400 Like magic is dark and fucked up and you don't really want to get 1753 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,160 in bed with that unless you're a crazy person like Hunter in 1754 01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:17,280 every game. Yeah, and now here is use tally, 1755 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,760 which I guess is an appropriate space for it, but it mentions it 1756 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,400 before and I wouldn't mind it higher up. 1757 01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,800 When you use the ability in play, you add a tally to the 1758 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,720 uses column and then when you try for advancement you roll 1759 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,920 under that. It's an advancement thing now. 1760 01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:36,920 So anytime you use an ability. It's so small there. 1761 01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:38,320 God, the digital version makes it feel so. 1762 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,400 Yeah, anytime you use an ability, you mark the use. 1763 01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:47,080 I think those are too small for that character sheet. 1764 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,920 I think this is the old one. I think the new ones are 1765 01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,800 definitely bigger. I did. 1766 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:56,400 They they yeah, There's a there's a form syllable version 1767 01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:00,320 digitally and which is great and it works really well and that's 1768 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:01,600 what I use because I made a character. 1769 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:05,080 I'm doing this and shocker, it was a caster. 1770 01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,080 Yeah. So talents. 1771 01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:11,760 There are several talents. They're all pretty good. 1772 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,400 This really leans into if you want to make your character like 1773 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:19,440 a Dexy Reflex person, you put in Reflex and you can roll under 1774 01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,000 let's just do reflexes roll under. 1775 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:23,720 I like that it says it on each one. 1776 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,920 It tells you if it's roll under roll bonus or special, you are 1777 01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:30,240 adequate at avoiding danger. When a situation calls for you 1778 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:34,320 to dodge, such as a ranged weapon attack, certain spells, 1779 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,320 and some environmental hazards, you may choose to test this 1780 01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:40,640 ability. If you are wearing armor, add 1781 01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:45,080 your armor die to this role. This role under SO is like a bad 1782 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,800 thing, right? If your role is successful, you 1783 01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:52,000 avoid any negative effects. The talents are very grounded. 1784 01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,280 There's some cool stuff in here, but it it's. 1785 01:30:56,440 --> 01:30:58,160 Huh. What am I thinking here, Ryan? 1786 01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:02,000 What am I thinking? Read my mind. 1787 01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:03,000 What? Are you thinking? 1788 01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,960 It's stuff that I feel like in a lot of ways will be very 1789 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,920 available to all characters in other games. 1790 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,320 Because. It's a skill based game. 1791 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,400 It's like, no, you have to have the skill or else you're going 1792 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,280 to use luck to do this. Yeah. 1793 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,160 So that's why I don't like this at all. 1794 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:18,800 Yeah. There isn't like here. 1795 01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,840 I go. Oh, I think there's some 1796 01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,080 reformatting the rules that can make this a little bit more 1797 01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:30,680 approachable to like everyone should kind of be able to dodge 1798 01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:32,080 and you can't. You kind of can't hear. 1799 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,960 You just have to use luck, and that's you spin luck as you use 1800 01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:37,880 it. And so it kind of really limits 1801 01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:39,040 what you're going to be able to do. 1802 01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,960 Also because Luck has so many other things that you can do 1803 01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,000 with it, it'd be weird to kind of use it for this when you can 1804 01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,000 use it for all other kinds of stuff. 1805 01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:50,240 There's is something missing to deal with this problem that they 1806 01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:53,560 kind of rolled into luck and I don't know that that's the fix. 1807 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,680 No. So my biggest issue with a lot 1808 01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:57,840 of this is exactly what you said. 1809 01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:59,760 And this is my problem with any system that has feet. 1810 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,080 It's one of the reasons that like I started out with like 1811 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:05,040 being a fan of Dragon Band and then I became less and less of a 1812 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,200 fan of Dragon Band over time because we started getting it's 1813 01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,440 like Heroic Abilities and like half of them should just be shit 1814 01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:12,440 people can fucking do. And like, that's my biggest 1815 01:32:12,440 --> 01:32:16,160 problem with with feats in 5E is like brawling's a feat without 1816 01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,120 the feet, you can't do it. But why the fuck can't everybody 1817 01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,560 brawl? Like it just bothers me when you 1818 01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:22,640 when you put stuff that everyone. 1819 01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,840 So for example, like basically it's saying that like, you just 1820 01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:28,400 it's not that you can't do it right. 1821 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,440 Like if you have Constitution, you can you can roll 1822 01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:33,560 Constitution, you're just not as good at it, right? 1823 01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:36,680 But like, there's some stuff here that I think should just be 1824 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,160 like, there could have been like A4 stat and that could have just 1825 01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,960 been like a combat stat. And then you could pick like 1826 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,880 combat things that you're a little bit better at. 1827 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:46,560 But here's here's my other issue with it, right. 1828 01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,520 So like, the talents are like Constitution, Reflexes, 1829 01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:53,160 Strength, Willpower. Like things that are normally 1830 01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,880 stats, Strength, Willpower, Deception. 1831 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,200 Like, you know, Stealth, things like that. 1832 01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,000 Things that are normally stats are now talents. 1833 01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:02,800 But here's here's the issue that I have, right? 1834 01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,920 So how do you determine, how do you determine your skill 1835 01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,480 threshold and pool? What's What's the dice? 1836 01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:14,840 So it is A1 D 3 + 3 for when you roll skill. 1837 01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,000 So I roll. I rolled A6 when I made my 1838 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,840 character. And the lowest you can get is a 1839 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,920 four, right? Yeah. 1840 01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,800 So that's not a bad spread. It's not a bad spread, right? 1841 01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:30,040 Except except when you're looking at small numbers, right? 1842 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:37,080 So I can my skill is a four to start and then I get 4 talents 1843 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,080 that I could put one point in, right? 1844 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:48,280 You start with a base of 6 and get 6 talents as opposed to some 1845 01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:49,960 type of inverse, right? Right. 1846 01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,800 As opposed to being like if you start with a 4, you get 6, you 1847 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,320 start with the six, you get four and five and five is the middle 1848 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:56,760 ground, right? A little bit of balance. 1849 01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:00,320 So the issue that I have is when we're talking about 1850 01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,280 specialization, right, We're not. 1851 01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:06,280 Because my base, before I add any modifiers on everything on 1852 01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:10,000 this list is a four, and your base on everything on this list 1853 01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:15,000 is a six. Damn. 1854 01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:20,880 And then I only have 4 talents. If I put one in each, I would 1855 01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:22,720 also only have 4 talents. Think about. 1856 01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,840 That. Yeah, and then you also you get 1857 01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:29,320 6 talents, so. You are literally just every 1858 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,320 way. That's every way. 1859 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,280 Damn, I did not even think about that. 1860 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,480 And the moment you said it, I'm like, oh fuck, you're right. 1861 01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:38,920 That stat, it's too heavily weighted. 1862 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:40,840 That's too heavily weighted. That's my. 1863 01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:42,400 Point. That's my point. 1864 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,160 That's my point. I I think I think the way to fix 1865 01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:50,960 that would be to. Damn. 1866 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:56,760 Yeah, would be to break these down into maybe categories. 1867 01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,000 Mm hmm. Mm hmm. 1868 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,160 Right. And then have like a role for 1869 01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:07,360 each category and then have like a pool at the end or whatever. 1870 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:11,480 You know what I mean? So like kind of but no it can 1871 01:35:11,480 --> 01:35:13,280 still be talents. But like say you take all of the 1872 01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,760 combat, say you take all of the combat ones right? 1873 01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:20,880 And you roll like 1D3 for your base combat right? 1874 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,760 And then you can if you roll A1 you get a one in each combat 1875 01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:28,320 whatever. But then you roll like a A5 in 1876 01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:32,800 all of the like sneaky ones or whatever or like the non combat 1877 01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,800 ones. So like you can still break it 1878 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,480 down by talent but your base isn't the same. 1879 01:35:37,480 --> 01:35:40,600 For literally what like 20 fucking talents. 1880 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,400 You can at least break it up into like 4 sections of talent 1881 01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:45,960 where the base can be a little different. 1882 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,720 Like all of the magic you can have a spell talent like base 1883 01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,280 stat. That's the issue I think with 1884 01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:52,920 having one base stat for all of these. 1885 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,760 Again, like I said, you are literally if you have a six and 1886 01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:59,000 I have a four, you are better at everything than me. 1887 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:05,960 On top of knowing more talents than me immediately, I think the 1888 01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,080 fix, the real quick fix, what I would do is what I said. 1889 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,680 If you roll A4, you get to pick six talents where you get a 1890 01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,040 point in and if you roll A6, you get to pick four and five, five 1891 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,840 as a middle ground, right? So you have, you have a lower 1892 01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:21,400 threshold to start but a higher number of talents you can be in. 1893 01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,520 And the other one is you have a higher threshold to start but a 1894 01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:24,960 lower number of talents to be in. 1895 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:26,160 There's at least a bit of balance there. 1896 01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,040 But again, if I start with a four base with four talents, 1897 01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:30,400 these are with a six base and six talents. 1898 01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:34,200 I mean, imagine how far how many different ability advancement I 1899 01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:38,640 have to risk to even go up. Get that many? 1900 01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,560 Yeah. Cuz also, it's like if you want 1901 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,960 to get new abilities, it's just gonna cost. 1902 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:44,880 It's gonna fucking nickel and dime the fuck out of you. 1903 01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,200 You know, cuz I could, I could be trying to get that even. 1904 01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:52,480 Just get to the six talents that you started with and I roll -4 1905 01:36:52,480 --> 01:36:56,160 Stamina, I roll -2 Luck. And I'm still now at four base 1906 01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,560 with four talents -4 Stamina, -2 Luck. 1907 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,240 Still not even close to where you were. 1908 01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:01,120 I. Didn't even think about the 1909 01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,480 implication, the fact that it like because it is your 1910 01:37:03,480 --> 01:37:07,200 threshold like and the number of talents you get like if it gives 1911 01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,320 the really fucked up, fucked up exponential relationship. 1912 01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,080 And imagine starting with a low stamina too. 1913 01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,760 You can't do spells, you know what I mean? 1914 01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:18,840 You know so well you could. You could. 1915 01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:20,240 You have to spend. You have to spend. 1916 01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,600 Sam, you just. Can't but you know but you know 1917 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,400 yeah. Anyway so that was my initial 1918 01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,480 issue is I think the talents are I think there's some talents in 1919 01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:32,720 here that are too broad to specifically make them talents. 1920 01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:34,600 But I know people that like skills and talents that like it 1921 01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:39,000 that way and that's fine. But I think the base the base 1922 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:43,560 threshold is is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're you're 1923 01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,080 right. I agree with you. 1924 01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,760 But moving on for the sake of of brevity, which we're all so good 1925 01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:52,760 at. Spells, there's much talent. 1926 01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,480 You can read them all there. There are some cool ones on 1927 01:37:55,480 --> 01:37:58,320 there, There they'll give you your character, your character, 1928 01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,120 the feel that you want. I do to agree that they can be a 1929 01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:04,800 little bit more categorized and investing in categories, but 1930 01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:08,320 whatever spells. They're also, they're also very, 1931 01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:13,720 very mechanicky, yes. Everything is very mechanic key. 1932 01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:17,160 For a game that up until this point has been relatively free 1933 01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,080 form, kind of, everyone is literally like, you get specific 1934 01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,240 points to do this specific thing, to add this specific 1935 01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:24,880 thing to do this specific thing, and then tell me how spells are 1936 01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:27,680 the exact same fucking way. Oh, I like Forbidden Lore, 1937 01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:28,200 though. Real quick. 1938 01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:29,880 We'll talk about Forbidden Lore just because I think it's a 1939 01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:31,320 funny one. Forbidden Lore is one of the 1940 01:38:31,320 --> 01:38:32,960 talents, but right before spells. 1941 01:38:33,440 --> 01:38:37,360 That is role under you studied strange and Mystic writings when 1942 01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,760 trying to understand something about the supernatural. 1943 01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:44,360 You may have your GM test this abilities, the GM roles and hide 1944 01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:48,680 the result. Then you ask them a yes or no 1945 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:53,680 question about the topic. If the role was successful, they 1946 01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,440 must give you a correct answer. If the role was not successful, 1947 01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,600 they must give you an incorrect answer. 1948 01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,880 If you are attempting this ability untrained, you lose luck 1949 01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,600 regardless of the role. I just think this is really 1950 01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:07,960 funny because you can be like reaching to your forbidden 1951 01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:09,720 knowledge. Like is this right? 1952 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,400 And you're like, yeah, it's probably right. 1953 01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:14,120 And then later on you're like, fuck, it was totally wrong. 1954 01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:16,680 I. Love that idea. 1955 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,520 It's a fun. Interplay with the GM and like 1956 01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,800 you don't really know whether or not what you got was the truth, 1957 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:22,480 so. Well, I if I was going to do 1958 01:39:22,480 --> 01:39:25,080 that, I would cut out the probably like if if if they ask 1959 01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:27,640 me a question I'm just going to be like they're gonna ask me 1960 01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:29,880 like does does this room have a secret door? 1961 01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,360 And I I I rolled so that it was a fail. 1962 01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:36,560 I'd be like no, it doesn't. But it does. 1963 01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:39,960 No, you said probably in the way you were pronouncing it in the 1964 01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,520 way you were saying for an example, But I love that idea 1965 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,400 even for like perception checks for some things where like 1966 01:39:45,440 --> 01:39:47,560 what's your stat? And then I'd roll behind the GM 1967 01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:48,800 screen and be like, no, you don't see anything. 1968 01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:50,720 Yeah. And you would never know. 1969 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:52,600 You wouldn't even get to Meadow. Whether you saw something or 1970 01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:53,960 not, you know. Yeah. 1971 01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,440 So spells. Spells Dan. 1972 01:39:57,440 --> 01:39:59,240 There's some cool fucking spells man. 1973 01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:08,200 I mean they're all the chant of the aegis, the first one, I just 1974 01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,840 think they're vibey. The sound of this chant 1975 01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:13,880 manifests a translucent field of resistance. 1976 01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:18,400 This field covers either a large pre designated area you have 1977 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,720 marked. Or a Dome around you and 1978 01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:27,200 everything near you. Big big letter N near and big 1979 01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:32,360 letter capital L large. When casting choose either magic 1980 01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,920 or physic matter. Physical matter. 1981 01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,080 The thing you choose finds it difficult to picture at the 1982 01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:39,720 field. If magic is chosen, the spell 1983 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,320 effect that would cross the field at don't and spell is 1984 01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:46,240 trying to go through have their final casting result multiplied 1985 01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:51,400 by your rank in this ability plus one if the physical matter 1986 01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:54,320 is chosen. Arrows and other flying debris 1987 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:57,400 that would cross the field don't, and creatures trying to 1988 01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:01,840 move through it must test luck or appropriate ability with 1989 01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:06,760 their result multiplied by your rank in the ability plus one, or 1990 01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:10,640 be repelled. I just like it's a force field. 1991 01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:15,200 There's a lot of stuff going on. It's a little too crunchy, but 1992 01:41:15,440 --> 01:41:18,960 it's a force field, you know? I appreciate the force field. 1993 01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:24,440 I also like mind web. Mind web is probably my favorite 1994 01:41:24,440 --> 01:41:25,760 one. I think this is the one that I 1995 01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:27,400 put for my character. I wonder how I'd save that 1996 01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:28,200 character. I. 1997 01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:31,880 Probably shut down my computer with it open and didn't save it. 1998 01:41:35,480 --> 01:41:37,840 Did I save it? I did not save it. 1999 01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,560 Man, look at why. Why am I the way that I am? 2000 01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,000 I don't mean we are. This is an episode for us, 2001 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:46,640 though, man. We are. 2002 01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,120 We are. All well, I. 2003 01:41:48,440 --> 01:41:50,440 I might actually cut out pauses in this one. 2004 01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,040 I kind of put like 4:00 AM. So yeah, mind web. 2005 01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,520 I like mind web. Create a mental link between 2006 01:41:55,520 --> 01:42:00,080 yourself and any creature who bear a special mark or move 2007 01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,760 through a warded area. I just like that you can just 2008 01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:07,520 set up a a mind reading trap. They have a chance to resist you 2009 01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,280 trying to read your mind. But you could just make a room 2010 01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:13,080 and ward a room, and anyone who walks into that room, you can 2011 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:14,960 read their, you can attempt to read their mind. 2012 01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,080 And I think that shit is fucking cool. 2013 01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:26,040 Yeah, my issue, my issue that I have with this is how randomly 2014 01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:31,320 like the system has been pretty lightweight until we hit talents 2015 01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:34,920 and spells and then suddenly I feel like I'm reading 5E. 2016 01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,640 Yes, it does get a little bit crunchier here. 2017 01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:40,720 I mean a lot. A lot of the stuff in the spells 2018 01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:45,880 is fluff, you know. But like for example, like when 2019 01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,680 you're reading the chant of the ages part, like you get to a 2020 01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:53,320 point where you when you start to fall into a rhythm where it's 2021 01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:56,080 like it's all of this but you have to add 1 and then climbs 2022 01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:58,320 your rank and do all this. I'm like honestly dude, it's a 2023 01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:00,720 force field. Just say it's a force field. 2024 01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:02,520 Magic can't get in, arrows can't get in. 2025 01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,560 If something wants to get in, roll against it, boom, you're 2026 01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:06,320 done. You know what I mean? 2027 01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:08,840 That's I think a lot of the spells are really vibing really 2028 01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:12,440 interesting. I just I am very curious as why 2029 01:43:12,440 --> 01:43:20,200 they became so crunchy and numbers focused and and I I 2030 01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,120 bounced off a lot of the spells where I'm like this is really 2031 01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:26,160 interesting but I feel like you could this could be simplified 2032 01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,440 and still keep the vibes the same which is really interesting 2033 01:43:28,440 --> 01:43:30,480 to me. I think you know with the having 2034 01:43:30,480 --> 01:43:34,600 everything, I mean the entire game is built around the talent. 2035 01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:36,840 So like, I understand it to a point. 2036 01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:41,000 But my my other thing too is like my character sheet is not 2037 01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:43,040 big enough to write a spell on, you know what I mean? 2038 01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:45,960 Yeah, the form Fillable one was fine for it. 2039 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,720 But that character sheet, Yeah, yeah. 2040 01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:55,400 And then, moving on, we have the The Magical Calamities, which I 2041 01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,000 think is cool. You want to roll on the Magical 2042 01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:58,480 Calamities. Sure, yeah, I'll roll on the 2043 01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:00,040 Magical Calamities. What are you rolling on this AD 2044 01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:15,480 3? D6. 3D6 I rolled 13. 13 Couldn't 2045 01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:16,960 read off from him. Type something real quick the. 2046 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:20,600 Spell is cast, but it's effects, but it affects unintended 2047 01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,280 targets or its effects are the opposite of intended. 2048 01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,360 GM's choice exactly how the spell is reversed. 2049 01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:28,920 Dig it. Cool. 2050 01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:30,160 It's a force field. Guess what? 2051 01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,760 You're stuck in it now. Yeah, now you cannot leave the 2052 01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:34,200 force field. Yeah, there's some fun. 2053 01:44:34,480 --> 01:44:38,600 So 10 and 11 are the high points on the bell curve for this. 2054 01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:44,880 So for 10 roiling smoke pores from you filling nearby area, 2055 01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:48,800 obscures vision and provokes fits of coughing, Takes an hour 2056 01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,240 and dissipate. Great. 2057 01:44:50,440 --> 01:44:52,960 If for for being the midbranger, you're going to hit more fairly 2058 01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:54,560 often. Like that's a great one. 2059 01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:58,080 There's not massive cost to it, it's mostly an inconvenience and 2060 01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:01,920 an 11. An 11 is genuinely a good one 2061 01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:05,280 and it's very ridiculous. Nature inverts around you. 2062 01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:09,040 Water turns to fire, fire turns to ice. 2063 01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:13,400 Barren ground grows, plants lust, vegetation Withers and 2064 01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,680 dies fucking just like you're on. 2065 01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:20,120 Like you cast a spell and you're on the lake and the lake around 2066 01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:24,840 you turns to fucking fire. Yeah, absolute weirdo nonsense. 2067 01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:26,320 I love it. Yeah, not. 2068 01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:28,640 But here, here's the thing. That's fucking awesome. 2069 01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:33,120 That's fantastic, you know? You know, that's how, in my 2070 01:45:33,120 --> 01:45:35,240 opinion, and again, this is the way that I like magic. 2071 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:37,640 That's just what one of the spells should have been like 2072 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,600 that easy I don't like. Like I said, a lot of the spells 2073 01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:44,560 get so much into like multiply X by 10 for your rank and then 2074 01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:47,680 subtract 3 from your ability to add 2 to your luck and stuff. 2075 01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:51,000 And I'm just like or ice turns to fire like you know what I 2076 01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,760 mean? Like I definitely prefer. 2077 01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,920 We both prefer at least I'm, you know, I'm putting words in your 2078 01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:59,920 mouth a little bit more free form magic and it's it to me, it 2079 01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:02,120 just it. When I first got to how crunchy 2080 01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:03,440 the spells were, I was just surprised. 2081 01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:10,080 But yeah, so dude, dude, on the back on the book. 2082 01:46:10,440 --> 01:46:12,000 I think you've seen this a couple times throughout. 2083 01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:14,640 Great piece, great piece of art. I love this. 2084 01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,400 The invasion. This is a red section. 2085 01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:20,960 The last one was purple, I believe. 2086 01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:22,160 So this section is color-coded red. 2087 01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:23,600 I love that it's color-coded. By the way. 2088 01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:27,000 I think that's fantastic. This is a great piece. 2089 01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:33,280 It'll go into a piece by Mahar Mandahas for another narrative 2090 01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:35,680 section here, and we're in the items now. 2091 01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:39,240 So if you wanted spot art before you got a shit load of it, now 2092 01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:41,400 would have been OK to spread it a little bit more out through 2093 01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:42,720 the book. But we're getting to a section 2094 01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:46,080 now which is basically going to be tables for the next like 5 2095 01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:50,000 minutes, So items are interesting. 2096 01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:52,760 Anything reasonable can go into an adventurers pack. 2097 01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:54,000 I like that. Basically. 2098 01:46:54,480 --> 01:46:57,160 If it's if it's an adventure equipment like fucking you know, 2099 01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:58,360 pitons and shit, you just have it. 2100 01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:02,080 That's cool. But weapons are there. 2101 01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:09,080 I I, I, I I think maybe they adapted like the matrix or 2102 01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:10,040 something for this. I don't. 2103 01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:15,480 So dagger is 1 D 10 + 1, swords are 3D, four Spears are two D 4 2104 01:47:15,480 --> 01:47:18,560 + 2, staff is 1 D 6 + 2 and a Mace is 28 + 2. 2105 01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:22,640 Why? I don't have any idea, honestly. 2106 01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:24,520 I was like, oh, that's fucking confusing as fuck. 2107 01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,320 You're ready, brother. And it's just like when I when 2108 01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,480 you really look at the dice mechanics and stuff, an average 2109 01:47:30,480 --> 01:47:33,480 of AD 10 is what? Like like 5.5 or something like 2110 01:47:33,480 --> 01:47:36,240 5:00-ish plus one. So you're averaging AD 6 on a 2111 01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:37,840 dagger. You're averaging AD 6 on a 2112 01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,880 dagger, but with the. And when you look at a Mace, 2113 01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:42,680 right, the average of AD 8 is what? 2114 01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:46,360 Like a 4 + 2 is a six? Yeah, yeah. 2115 01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,800 So, like, it's just such a weird if it's to make everything feel 2116 01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:52,160 different, OK? Yeah. 2117 01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:54,680 That's OK. That's a choice. 2118 01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:57,760 Heavy weapons. Same way, two handed heavy 2119 01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,960 weapons. Great sword 3D6 small one D12 + 2120 01:47:59,960 --> 01:48:02,520 2 acts 2D10. It's just such AI. 2121 01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:04,520 Don't know. It's a very interesting spread 2122 01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:08,680 and I I don't know if it's I'm not I I my brain has not 2123 01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:10,040 decided. And this will definitely be 2124 01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:12,280 something that comes out in play that I'd like that it's weird 2125 01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:15,360 and quirky or I don't like it. One handed weapon should always 2126 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:16,680 be AD six. You know, I'm totally. 2127 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:21,840 I think my biggest issue is that there's like a a like modifiers 2128 01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,480 to the dice on all these if they were all. 2129 01:48:23,480 --> 01:48:25,400 Just like. Different die sizes and like 2130 01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:27,680 different amounts of dice. I'll be like I'd still be like 2131 01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:28,840 This is weird, but I'll try it out. 2132 01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:31,520 But the fact that it's like some of them have +2, some has a plus 2133 01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:35,720 one, one is a + 3, Longo is a + 3. 2134 01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:39,640 It's just like OK. It's so weird to just to to. 2135 01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:42,240 I don't know if I've ever seen a game where the weapon 2136 01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:45,040 automatically comes with a dice with a damage modifier. 2137 01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:52,480 It's interesting. Because like the floor for how 2138 01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:56,160 little damage you can do is much higher than it would be in other 2139 01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:59,600 cases, which kind of makes sense when you're talking about 2140 01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,160 weaponry. It's weird sometimes when I hit 2141 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:05,000 you with a massive weapon, if it does one damage. 2142 01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:08,240 Seems peculiar, right? Scrape That gets us Scrape. 2143 01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:11,800 Yeah, I don't know how much my yeah, I know. 2144 01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:17,400 But you should more say, like, oh, the great sword that I slide 2145 01:49:17,760 --> 01:49:21,400 swing at you always does 3 damage, at least like that makes 2146 01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,000 a lot of sense to me. Yeah, at least makes a lot of 2147 01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:26,400 sense to me. The spear that I stab you with 2148 01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:28,600 always does at least four damage. 2149 01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:32,760 OK, you know, there is a line of logic behind that. 2150 01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,520 I'm like, OK, I do. There's something here that I 2151 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:40,240 get, you know? Yeah, it's interesting, yeah. 2152 01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:42,680 Yep, it's. Interesting armor. 2153 01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:45,440 I I just don't know if I've ever seen a system like you said. 2154 01:49:45,440 --> 01:49:48,080 Like I've seen systems where like like a system that I'm 2155 01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:52,120 working on. For example, like the you roll a 2156 01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,560 number and that gives you your damage and then you add like +1 2157 01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:56,720 if you have a light weapon, right? 2158 01:49:56,920 --> 01:50:00,400 But to say I you roll D6 for your sword plus one 2159 01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,040 automatically, it's just interesting because there's 2160 01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:04,400 nowhere that the modifiers come from except for the weapons 2161 01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:05,720 themselves. It's interesting. 2162 01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:09,320 I like it because it's quirky. I is one I want to see in play. 2163 01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:11,640 Our and also say no. Sorry. 2164 01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:15,920 One last note, coming from the point of view of someone who 2165 01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,840 runs a bunch of games. The only reason this bothers me 2166 01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:22,360 is for running the game players. If you give them a weapon and 2167 01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:24,840 you're like, this is how much it does, they will learn how much 2168 01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,040 damage that weapon does. They'll be really on the 2169 01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:28,320 character sheet and they only need to. 2170 01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:30,480 They'll stumble. At first they'll learn people 2171 01:50:30,480 --> 01:50:33,440 are not stupid, but like if I tell, if they write down one D 8 2172 01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:35,640 + 2, after a while they're going to just do. 2173 01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,720 They're going to know each time. But when you're deciding damage 2174 01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:42,400 as the game master, that's where I don't like having these weird, 2175 01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,200 quirky damages, because it's just like, fuck, a little like 2176 01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:46,960 assigned to each of these people, you know? 2177 01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:49,440 And then I have to do the math for all of these people instead 2178 01:50:49,440 --> 01:50:52,200 of just being like, yeah, it's one D6, it's one D6 of advantage 2179 01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:56,520 1D6 of disadvantage. I mean, I don't mind that, but I 2180 01:50:56,520 --> 01:51:02,920 think that that's if adding a + 1 to a die roll really throws 2181 01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:04,720 your math. So it's not. 2182 01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:07,640 That it's just there's so there's now so many different 2183 01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:10,040 echelons of damage that you can assign to anything. 2184 01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:12,760 Not just weapons, but just things that happen, you know? 2185 01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,160 I guess, but I think this is specific to weapons. 2186 01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:18,400 Would you say that like a rock falling out of the sky has to 2187 01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:21,240 have like A1 D 2 + 3? Now you know what I mean like. 2188 01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:25,080 I would say that if I play Wolves Upon the Coast, I know 2189 01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:27,840 how much that damage that does because there's only several 2190 01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,080 damage bands and they're all laid out. 2191 01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:33,640 I mean it just one more. It's one more thing for me to 2192 01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:37,640 calculate as I'm running a game. It's a level of, it's a level of 2193 01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:39,600 quirkiness, complexity. Like, I don't necessarily. 2194 01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:44,960 I don't disagree with you. Yeah, yeah, I I don't know. 2195 01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:46,640 This is one. I think that I learn more into 2196 01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:50,440 liking it because it's different than than not liking it. 2197 01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:53,800 I I do really like the fact that your weapons can't like very 2198 01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:56,240 rarely you're gonna do one damage in fact, to any of them. 2199 01:51:56,240 --> 01:51:57,480 I. Don't think they ever can. 2200 01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:59,560 Yeah. They never can love that, even 2201 01:51:59,560 --> 01:52:00,880 if they're a little minimum of two. 2202 01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:04,000 Yeah, I like that a lot. And again, like every dice is 2203 01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:06,360 different, even if the averages kind of roll out to the same. 2204 01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:09,520 So it I I really think it makes every single weapon feel 2205 01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:11,360 different. Mm hmm. 2206 01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,240 Which is interesting. I I just am generally in the 2207 01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:17,600 camp of like all light weapons do D6 flavor it versus 2208 01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,040 mathematically doing it. But it's it's interesting. 2209 01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:21,080 I like it. It's interesting. 2210 01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,640 Armor and Shields. Worn armor comes in three types. 2211 01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:26,440 Light, medium, heavy, big shock. You roll an armor die guess what 2212 01:52:26,480 --> 01:52:28,920 it reduces your stuff. Light is 1D6, medium is D8, 2213 01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:31,720 heavy is D10, and Shields are used to prevent all damage from 2214 01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:34,240 a single application of force. However when they are used a 2215 01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:36,800 player test luck on a field the shield is broken. 2216 01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,120 Barry OSRI like it. It's how armor should always 2217 01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:42,560 work and fucking job resources, ammunition. 2218 01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:43,480 I like this. Guess what? 2219 01:52:43,480 --> 01:52:46,000 No one gives a shit. If you have a weapon that 2220 01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:49,240 normally needs a lot of arrows, you are not too dumb to not have 2221 01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:52,520 enough arrows. The only thing that you do is 2222 01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:56,240 instead you choose to have the character test luck after 2223 01:52:56,240 --> 01:53:00,080 expending a large number of them, and if they fail, you're 2224 01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:01,040 out. I like that. 2225 01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:02,560 That's I love that. That's great. 2226 01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:04,360 You shot 1 arrow, Who cares? You shot one. 2227 01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:07,000 But if you're in battle and you shot like 30 arrows, roll for 2228 01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,840 me, for your luck. If you failed, you're out of 2229 01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:09,880 arrows. I like that. 2230 01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,400 There's discovering items, there's rolling for finding 2231 01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,280 items, the effects that items have. 2232 01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:17,120 There's a magic items table, which I thought, which I think 2233 01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:21,040 is really cool and interesting, but also kind of like I love 2234 01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:22,920 tables where no matter what you roll, it always works. 2235 01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:25,120 And there's some stuff on here that, like, makes me scratch my 2236 01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:27,400 head. My first thought was what if I 2237 01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:35,360 roll a Helm of of Null? Oh yeah? 2238 01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:37,880 What's? The Wait a minute, a helm of 2239 01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:43,800 null crystal or something like that, right? 2240 01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:48,120 So like I'm literally rolling a helmet that when touching it 2241 01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:52,320 renders all things non magical, makes it unable to cast a spell 2242 01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,880 except that the crystal effect gives you spells to cast. 2243 01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,480 You know what I mean? A couple of things like that 2244 01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:03,360 that I'm just like I I think it's really fun and interesting 2245 01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:07,200 like if you want to roll one up. So basically the way magic items 2246 01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:11,360 work is there's ADD 24 table or two D12 table for the type of 2247 01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:13,160 item, crown, Talisman, axe, whatever. 2248 01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:18,320 There's a 2D12 table for type and effect which is basically 2249 01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:20,240 that. It says prefix, and then there's 2250 01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:26,920 a 2D12 table of the suffix Suffix. 2251 01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:29,240 That's what I was saying. So the suffix, which is 2:00 to 2252 01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:31,640 12:00. So I was saying of like if I do 2253 01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:37,080 the null of of Azag or of of protection, whatever, like any 2254 01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:39,240 of the ones that gives you magic. 2255 01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:42,720 But you're it's built of stuff that negates magic. 2256 01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,040 I'm like would you just say that it negates magic except for what 2257 01:54:45,040 --> 01:54:46,160 you're doing? You know, there's a couple of 2258 01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:47,840 things like that, but what did you do? 2259 01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:59,920 OK so I have a helm of copper and then the suffix of 2260 01:54:59,920 --> 01:55:02,360 Etherealness. So copper the. 2261 01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:06,480 Copper Helm of Etherealness. Yeah, so while holding, wearing, 2262 01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,240 or wielding this item, you would lose stamina. 2263 01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,920 If you would lose stamina, reduce that loss by 1. 2264 01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:17,640 Nice. Cool Etherealness. 2265 01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:20,680 At any time, you may test luck on a success. 2266 01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:24,600 Gain the ability to pass through solid matter for 10 minutes. 2267 01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,320 On a failure, lose half of your stamina rounded up. 2268 01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:32,600 Yeah, it's an interesting way to do magic items, because 2269 01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:34,920 basically you're saying each item gets 2 traits. 2270 01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,440 Yeah. Yeah, and the traits sometimes 2271 01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:40,640 work really well together, but on this table I tested a bunch 2272 01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:42,040 of them. Sometimes there's a little bit 2273 01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,880 of life friction between them. You probably should dial the 2274 01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:46,480 second table in a little bit more. 2275 01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:51,000 Mm hmm mm hmm, mm hmm. And I also think it does say 2276 01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:54,040 prefix in suffix. So I think it would have been 2277 01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:57,880 interesting to in my mind, like do the prefixes and then do the 2278 01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:00,040 items and then do the suffix, if that's how you're gonna write it 2279 01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:01,480 out, as opposed to doing the items and then. 2280 01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:04,920 Doing the two helm of the theory illness not yeah helm copper out 2281 01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:08,200 of the line yeah. Yeah, but a lot of them really 2282 01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:09,960 interesting. I mean, like I said, the crystal 2283 01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:11,880 one that I picked is pick three random spells. 2284 01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:14,600 Whoever is holding, wearing or reeling this item has one rank 2285 01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:15,800 in each of them. That's sick. 2286 01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:17,960 Yeah, that's like. Automatically just get a rank of 2287 01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:20,120 three spells. Like when you get to all of the 2288 01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,600 suffixes are of something or someone, of reflection of a zag 2289 01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,400 or protection of the nether world. 2290 01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:28,640 The really interesting super vibe. 2291 01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:32,080 Like again, I wish magic worked more like this through the 2292 01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:33,520 spells and stuff too. A little bit less crunch, a 2293 01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:35,080 little bit more interesting effects. 2294 01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:39,640 And again, like every single page on this has like 3-4 pages 2295 01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:42,400 of spot art all scattered. I don't know why the red section 2296 01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:44,280 got so much spot art and all the rest of them didn't. 2297 01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:46,840 We'll cruise through some other stuff. 2298 01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:49,080 This is the picture from the back of the book. 2299 01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:53,080 The giant bat creature. No, you're just chilling. 2300 01:56:53,320 --> 01:56:54,640 Love that. It's real cool. 2301 01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:58,200 Yeah. The webs of Biserone Another 2302 01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:01,640 fantastic. Some of the these header pieces 2303 01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:03,880 before the narratives are such amazing fucking art. 2304 01:57:04,720 --> 01:57:07,480 Another piece by Lex Mandrake called Ugg Spiders. 2305 01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:09,600 Then we get into a huge section we're not going to go through 2306 01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,520 maybe we'll touch on a little bit but it is the IT is all the 2307 01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:16,600 tables for all the places every. So this is your this is like 2308 01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,960 your varn style world guide to fucking everywhere which is 2309 01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:24,200 great and in the world book in the first one we're now into 2310 01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:26,560 what all of that was like. All of this stuff that we're 2311 01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:28,880 getting into is all the fiction plus these parts. 2312 01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:32,560 So for example, it says below are the main regions known to 2313 01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:35,360 the world, the coin roads, the Crescent C, the verdant basin 2314 01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,200 and it includes all like the cities and important areas of 2315 01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:43,120 that with some spot art. And it's great, yeah. 2316 01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:45,120 Yeah, do you like these little tables? 2317 01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:48,640 I like It's like a little encounter tables for each area. 2318 01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:51,680 I thought they were interesting. They they give you some flavor. 2319 01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:54,160 They also make it pretty easy. If you wanted to iterate on them 2320 01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:56,600 and make your own stuff. You kind of get a good feel for 2321 01:57:56,600 --> 01:58:02,000 each city, and I do like that they have it divided up by like 2322 01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:05,960 the areas by larger area, you know, that's really interesting. 2323 01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:08,480 I will say like varn. On the other hand, you randomly 2324 01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:10,760 generate everything, so it's not quite the same. 2325 01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:13,600 No, no. No, it's just Gazetieri, you 2326 01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:15,360 know. Yeah, but I do, I do like 2327 01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:18,960 exactly what you said that the like there is the there's an 2328 01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:21,720 overarching area that all the important parts in it and each 2329 01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:24,480 of those important parts in it has AD 6 table for encounters 2330 01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:26,920 and interesting stuff in it. Like, it's just it's really cool 2331 01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:29,360 to be able to just be like, we're here, we're there, boom, 2332 01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:32,760 and you go. I think it's weird on page 46 2333 01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:34,840 how there's like a header for the Virgin Basin over a 2334 01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:38,920 completely empty half of a page. 46 Scrolling down. 2335 01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:42,680 I did not deep dive this area this section by the way. 2336 01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:46,800 I did. Oh, well, that. 2337 01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:48,680 It's that Heather's on every single. 2338 01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:50,760 Yeah, it's weird. It's weird there, But it's on 2339 01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:52,760 all of the verdant basin pages also. 2340 01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:54,800 Put, put All right, that's going to drive me now. 2341 01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,240 The intractable general. This is a light blue section. 2342 01:58:57,240 --> 01:59:01,440 A great piece of art with this. I love this all duels yeah yeah 2343 01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:04,480 spell though we didn't read but is a spell ability where you 2344 01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:07,080 fucking duel? Yeah, and and the loser takes 2345 01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:09,360 magical calamity. It's like, it's so cool. 2346 01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:14,200 I love that. I love that people people's an 2347 01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:15,920 interesting section. Basically this is the way that 2348 01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:23,080 you can generate a bunch of NPCS, but the NPCS have matrices 2349 01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:24,800 like I've never seen this before and I love it. 2350 01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,040 I love it so much. This might be my favorite part 2351 01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:29,120 in the entire book. So basically what happens is do 2352 01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:36,560 me a favor and roll. 3D6 Yeah, three. 2353 01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:40,800 Well, is it 3 or is it just two? D6 So each is separating a role 2354 01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:42,800 for the NPC column. So I need a background. 2355 01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:45,120 Oh yeah, I guess roll 3D Six, yeah. 2356 01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:49,440 Cool 316. So you are a step hunter. 2357 01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:51,480 Duh. That's your background. 2358 01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:54,200 Your motivation is you owe a great debt to a ruthless Guild 2359 01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:56,200 leader. And then was it 6? 2360 01:59:57,160 --> 01:59:59,000 Yes. Yeah, And your entire body is 2361 01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:01,720 covered in tattoos that you believe gives you powers. 2362 02:00:02,240 --> 02:00:04,400 OK. So you get to give you power, 2363 02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:07,280 you just believe that they do. Hey, maybe your belief is what 2364 02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:09,960 powers them. OK, yeah, so you have a 2365 02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:13,080 background of motivation and a unique trait for any NPC, right? 2366 02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:15,360 So that's 386 tables. You have an endless number of 2367 02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:18,760 NPCS, right? But then right, there are plot 2368 02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:22,200 hooks for all of the major sections we already talked about 2369 02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:24,320 in the places section. So this one specifically is the 2370 02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:28,840 the coin roads, which is an area you actually take the NPCS 2371 02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:30,920 background and motivation, right? 2372 02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:32,480 So what did you roll? A3 and A1. 2373 02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:36,680 Click back Yes. Step Hunter So you go on The 2374 02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:41,800 Matrix, you go down and you go down to three and one, and it 2375 02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:46,040 gives a specific plot hook for every NPC's background and 2376 02:00:46,040 --> 02:00:50,760 motivation. So say you rolled A, A5 and A4, 2377 02:00:50,840 --> 02:00:56,160 you would literally go down to five and four right in each 2378 02:00:56,320 --> 02:00:59,560 section of all of the plot areas you talked about before. 2379 02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:03,680 There's plot hooks for every section for the entire matrix of 2380 02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:06,000 matrix C of NPC. Half of an empty fucking page. 2381 02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:11,520 Here again, it's huge Crescent C There's like literally like 2382 02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:14,600 great glaciers. There's just endless pages of 2383 02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:21,440 matrices where you can mix up your every NPC with a different 2384 02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:23,320 plot hook for each different part of the world. 2385 02:01:23,320 --> 02:01:24,800 This is the strongest part of the book. 2386 02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:28,120 Oh my God, how fucking cool that is Like one of the greatest 2387 02:01:28,120 --> 02:01:34,000 ideas fucking ever. Like use 2D6 tables to generate 2388 02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:36,600 plot hooks for every area and the 2D6 is generated by the 2389 02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:37,920 different backgrounds and motivations. 2390 02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:41,680 But on top of that, you yourself will also get an own unique 2391 02:01:41,680 --> 02:01:44,520 trait that is just unique to that NPC too, because it's not 2392 02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:47,560 affecting the Matrix like. It's. 2393 02:01:47,680 --> 02:01:49,720 So fucking smart. I it's. 2394 02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:53,040 I'm in love with this part. It's so fucking clever. 2395 02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:54,560 I love it. So good. 2396 02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:56,560 Yeah, this is pretty good. Hey, looks good. 2397 02:01:56,560 --> 02:02:02,720 There's smaller in 59. Yeah, yeah, the most random. 2398 02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:05,840 OK. Anyway, so this guy again, the 2399 02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:07,880 the guy in the back of the book again for a second time, and I 2400 02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:09,280 think we're gonna see him in the back for a third time. 2401 02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:12,240 We see the same piece R three times the got in silver. 2402 02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:16,560 There's a really amazing looking like like ironish looking golem 2403 02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:19,880 shooting stuff out of his eyes. It's it's an insane piece. 2404 02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:22,880 Another piece by Lex Mandrake. Then we get to the B series 2405 02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:26,000 section. The B series section's 2406 02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:27,520 interesting. I think they they put this 2407 02:02:27,520 --> 02:02:33,360 random piece of spot art over the yeah, I completely agree 2408 02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:37,160 odds and it's they there's there's the monster section and 2409 02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:42,520 then there's like a a, a like eel over the bronze giant 2410 02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:46,080 header. And I kept in my brain 2411 02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:49,200 immediately going, it's talking about opening a door and I don't 2412 02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:51,400 see a door on the eel. And it took me a little bit to 2413 02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:52,880 go. The eel is literally just a 2414 02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:55,320 monster spot art that has nothing to do with the bronze 2415 02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:57,000 giant on that page. Interesting. 2416 02:02:57,560 --> 02:02:59,640 So the monster is really interesting. 2417 02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:03,160 Basically what they do is each monster has a paragraph of 2418 02:03:04,640 --> 02:03:08,320 flavor and then it has two to three like dashes of stuff. 2419 02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:10,840 So metal body, living heart, while their bodies are made of 2420 02:03:10,840 --> 02:03:13,360 metal, etcetera, etcetera. Test luck to find this thing. 2421 02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:15,920 They're bound by prophecy and then it gives you skill, 2422 02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:17,880 stamina, armor, damage and size for each one. 2423 02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:20,200 And then AD 6 disposition table for each one. 2424 02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:23,480 That's interesting. I think there are some that I 2425 02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:25,280 read through. I really like a lot of them. 2426 02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:27,600 There are some that I read through where some of, like the 2427 02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,800 flavor bits get a little bit mechanical or could easily have 2428 02:03:30,800 --> 02:03:34,360 just been flavor. Like there's a lot and I like a 2429 02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,440 lot of flavor here, but sometimes it gets a little bit 2430 02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,000 much. A lot of empty pages where there 2431 02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:41,480 could have been dope monster art, but a lot of the monsters 2432 02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:46,200 are incredibly vibey, incredibly like setting, like lore. 2433 02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:49,360 A lot of lore building and the implied stuff for the monsters, 2434 02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:51,640 really, really great. I think, honestly, I think the 2435 02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:55,080 whole world section we'll get well, I'll say that critique at 2436 02:03:55,080 --> 02:03:57,800 the end. Page 69, Half empty 70. 2437 02:03:58,000 --> 02:03:59,680 I'm not going to keep saying how much is half empty. 2438 02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:02,280 It's half the book. It's a lot of the book, and like 2439 02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:07,560 it's Now I know that looking at the actual book, it's even worse 2440 02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:10,480 on the physical edition. Yeah, yeah. 2441 02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:13,720 So every monster page, basically it's 11. 2442 02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:16,800 It's two monsters per page, basically, one on each half. 2443 02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:20,040 And if it doesn't fill the whole half of that page, the rest of 2444 02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:22,840 the page is just blank. It's plenty of space for art. 2445 02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:25,040 I know money is money and art costs money. 2446 02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:28,880 Yeah, I would. I would Let's crowd fund and get 2447 02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:30,600 some more art in the book and then that is the end of the 2448 02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:31,360 book. That's Azag. 2449 02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:32,920 This is that guy again on the back. 2450 02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:36,120 The the Horned man with the broken Sword and the flower. 2451 02:04:36,400 --> 02:04:38,240 Love that piece of art. Third time we've seen it in this 2452 02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,720 book though. Dave Dungeons, LFOSR. 2453 02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:42,320 That's the end of the book here. All right. 2454 02:04:42,760 --> 02:04:47,520 Let's cut straight to our review scores and get that done. 2455 02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:49,480 So obviously it's a book. So we're going to do it like a 2456 02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:54,080 book, art and layout that we we apparently don't do a lot of 2457 02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:55,760 reviews anymore. I think we did two last month. 2458 02:04:57,240 --> 02:05:00,880 Yeah, crazy. So when we do review scores, we 2459 02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:06,640 give ratings on five metrics, up to 10 points each, for a total 2460 02:05:06,640 --> 02:05:10,240 of 50 points. Art and layout is the art in the 2461 02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:13,080 book and the layout of the book. It's all the visual parts of the 2462 02:05:13,080 --> 02:05:15,760 book. Layout, visually, usability is 2463 02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:18,280 how well the book is used, right? 2464 02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:20,160 Are there references to pages when you need it? 2465 02:05:20,400 --> 02:05:23,880 Are the sections in an order that you know usable? 2466 02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:26,280 Are all the things you get with it usable? 2467 02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:28,000 Is it hyperlinked? Is it bookmarked? 2468 02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:29,720 You know all of that kind of stuff? 2469 02:05:29,720 --> 02:05:32,240 Rule set. If it's a new rule set, do we 2470 02:05:32,240 --> 02:05:33,800 like it? If it's an adapted rule set, how 2471 02:05:33,800 --> 02:05:36,360 well is it adapted? Originality is what it sounds 2472 02:05:36,360 --> 02:05:38,240 like. It's it's all of those things. 2473 02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:41,560 Is it new? Different. 2474 02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:42,720 Does it do anything new or different? 2475 02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:46,400 Value is bang for your buck. The cost of the thing, but also 2476 02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:48,320 all the rest of the stuff you could potentially get with it. 2477 02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:51,160 Generators, character sheets, adventures, all that stuff. 2478 02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:53,280 And then the total score is what all that adds up to. 2479 02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:58,960 So art and layout Two very opposing parts in this. 2480 02:05:58,960 --> 02:06:02,080 What are your thoughts? Well, hey, listen, the art 2481 02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:04,280 that's in here is great. There's just not very much of 2482 02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:08,040 it. And the layout is fine except 2483 02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:11,040 all of that ton of empty space everywhere. 2484 02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:17,040 Like, that's pretty it's it's pretty egregious, like kind of 2485 02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:19,920 aggregating it all towards the end of what we went through and 2486 02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:23,160 what I've seen, I'm like, oh, that's pretty bad. 2487 02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:26,040 There's a lot of empty space. There's a lot of empty space and 2488 02:06:26,040 --> 02:06:29,760 it feels awkward. And the book with that extra 2489 02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:32,800 inch above and below versus the old version, it's like, suck 2490 02:06:32,800 --> 02:06:35,240 dude there. I mean, that's bread you showed 2491 02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:36,600 earlier. It's just like, well, fuck, it's 2492 02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:40,640 mostly empty. I will say and. 2493 02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:44,280 What's crazy is that there is fucking no play examples in this 2494 02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:46,520 entire book. There's a massive amount of 2495 02:06:46,520 --> 02:06:49,160 empty space and there's not one damn play example. 2496 02:06:49,160 --> 02:06:52,200 It's like, you could have filled so much of this space with just 2497 02:06:52,200 --> 02:06:56,240 like different color, font, quotes, example of play. 2498 02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:58,640 Hey, the rule that we just went over here is an example of that 2499 02:06:58,640 --> 02:07:02,160 rule being, I mean, like, we have a good grasp on rules, but 2500 02:07:02,160 --> 02:07:04,000 like a lot of people like that shit. 2501 02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:06,840 I mean, I still actually do like that stuff, but like, a lot of 2502 02:07:06,840 --> 02:07:08,480 people really like it because it gives them something like 2503 02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:11,800 tangible to grasp with the rules and not just conceptually in 2504 02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:13,400 their own mind how they think it's supposed to work. 2505 02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:16,520 Yeah, there's a lot of opportunity for it to be better, 2506 02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:18,680 you know. Yeah. 2507 02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:24,760 So I will say, I will say that the, the I do think that the 2508 02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:28,320 second book does suffer by trying to be a combination of 2509 02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:32,040 the first two books. I think the better version of 2510 02:07:32,040 --> 02:07:35,640 Azag is the 2 versions, the rules book and the world book. 2511 02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:39,240 I do think that it is better and I think this is the this is 2512 02:07:39,240 --> 02:07:42,400 clearly the intended way because this is the first way. 2513 02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:45,360 This is the way they decide to do it and I do think that it 2514 02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:48,320 suffers by trying to adapt it into the second book. 2515 02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:49,880 But this is the book we're looking at, so this is what we 2516 02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:58,800 have, right? So art wise, I think every piece 2517 02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:01,680 of art in here is fantastic, every single month Spot art is 2518 02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:05,400 great. The the full art pieces with the 2519 02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:07,200 with the titles for the narratives above them. 2520 02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:09,200 Yeah, I think that's Logan Stall. 2521 02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:11,200 My fucking God. Those pieces are amazing. 2522 02:08:11,480 --> 02:08:16,720 The cover the covers this one specifically from Is it Louis 2523 02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:18,000 Mello? Yeah. 2524 02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:19,760 I want to make sure I get that right. 2525 02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:20,960 What did you say their Twitter name was? 2526 02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:24,160 Party in the front. Oh my God, dude. 2527 02:08:24,200 --> 02:08:26,760 My They're artists. In they are so good. 2528 02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:29,800 I follow them on the I follow them on every social media. 2529 02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:34,160 I follow them on Tumblr. Yeah, so good. 2530 02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:36,120 I think it sets the vibe so well. 2531 02:08:36,320 --> 02:08:38,480 The art that's in the book sets the vibe so well. 2532 02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:43,480 The narratives and it sets the the vibe so well, I'll get to 2533 02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:45,120 other parts. So the art is amazing. 2534 02:08:45,120 --> 02:08:47,960 The layout, I gotta be honest, it's not good. 2535 02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:49,560 It's not. I think it's readable. 2536 02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:53,320 It's extremely readable. My issue is right, So I'm saying 2537 02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:56,040 thermal art in there, right? Art costs money. 2538 02:08:56,080 --> 02:08:57,640 Okay, okay. Here's the other thing you can 2539 02:08:57,640 --> 02:08:59,680 do, right? You have 6 writers in the book. 2540 02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:03,040 You know how many little blurbs, how many little like setting 2541 02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:06,000 quotes, item descript, like descriptions, things like that 2542 02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:07,880 you could like sprinkle in there a little bit more narrative in 2543 02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:09,680 there. Like you said play examples 2544 02:09:09,680 --> 02:09:11,880 could be there's the stuff, the other thing you know the other 2545 02:09:11,880 --> 02:09:13,600 thing that you can do when you can't afford a lot of art. 2546 02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:16,480 Make your layout more interesting, right? 2547 02:09:16,480 --> 02:09:19,480 Like I have no problem with blank space on a page, no 2548 02:09:19,480 --> 02:09:21,600 problem. But if you're going to have that 2549 02:09:21,600 --> 02:09:27,320 much blank space on a page, use the blank space as layout 2550 02:09:27,520 --> 02:09:29,800 handles. For example, had a lot of pages 2551 02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:33,280 that had like one paragraph on it and it never felt as if. 2552 02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:36,760 Because you know why. Yeah, because it was on purpose. 2553 02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:38,440 Because you know why? It's because they never put it 2554 02:09:38,440 --> 02:09:40,320 in two columns and stuck in the top left of the page. 2555 02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:42,520 They would center it on the page a little bit more. 2556 02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:43,680 They would do different things with it. 2557 02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:45,840 And not only that, we've also read plenty of books where 2558 02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,880 there's a lot of empty space. And what they do, they put color 2559 02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:49,320 in the background. They put design in the 2560 02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:51,840 background. They tweak the layout to fill 2561 02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:56,320 the empty space with literally anything but massive, massive 2562 02:09:56,320 --> 02:09:59,920 swaths of plain white. And they know that because they 2563 02:09:59,920 --> 02:10:02,160 do fill parts of that with with spot art, right? 2564 02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:05,560 So if if you're going to have that right, fill it with 2565 02:10:05,560 --> 02:10:07,760 something filled with writing, filled with color, filled with 2566 02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:11,000 design, filled with anything it like, I again, I know that art 2567 02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:12,400 is expensive. Not saying that that was the 2568 02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:15,080 thing that stopped it from being filled there, but fill it with 2569 02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:18,920 words, fill it with background, fill it with literally fucking 2570 02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:22,440 anything. It's just egregious because it's 2571 02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:24,000 not a couple of pages. It's like. 2572 02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:27,040 No, it's not a couple of pages, yeah. 2573 02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:31,440 Half half of the entire monster section is blank. 2574 02:10:32,480 --> 02:10:35,480 Yeah, they're also, If you're gonna put spot art somewhere, 2575 02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:38,920 the monster section should have a ton of it, because I don't 2576 02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:40,680 know what they look like in your mind, you know? 2577 02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:42,160 But. Why did we get 15? 2578 02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:44,960 Like and I like items, right? But it there's it's not like 2579 02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:47,600 they're unique magic items. They're boats and swords and 2580 02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:49,520 stuff. And again, they're great pieces, 2581 02:10:50,240 --> 02:10:53,320 but I would much rather have blank space in the item section 2582 02:10:53,320 --> 02:10:55,760 because honestly in a lot of the item section they're filling 2583 02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:58,800 spot that doesn't need to be filled, but all of the monster 2584 02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:01,800 sections are empty. So I'm torn on this because I 2585 02:11:01,800 --> 02:11:04,600 think the art is fantastic and the layout is subpar. 2586 02:11:05,320 --> 02:11:09,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going with the six for this 2587 02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:11,560 one. God, I think you're being 2588 02:11:11,560 --> 02:11:16,040 generous, but I'll go with it. Put in a 5 then. 2589 02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:21,400 No. What was the last thing that got 2590 02:11:21,400 --> 02:11:23,480 a Ted? Whatever have you last? 2591 02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:25,600 Art and layout? Fuck if I know, man. 2592 02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:28,280 I'm gonna give it a six just because art is so fucking good, 2593 02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:30,680 but just know that the art is. Really very good if I. 2594 02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:32,960 Was judging the layout on its own, it would have a three or 2595 02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:34,040 four, I'm gonna be honest with you. 2596 02:11:34,160 --> 02:11:35,960 It's the layout's. Pretty brutal, so. 2597 02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:46,200 Yeah, OK, usability. Well, so the the new update 2598 02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:48,000 digital we don't have has bookmarks. 2599 02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:52,200 Right, supposedly. The hyperlinks in the table of 2600 02:11:52,400 --> 02:11:54,240 contents are probably fixed in that as well. 2601 02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:55,800 We're assuming that's fine. Is. 2602 02:11:56,160 --> 02:11:57,640 There anything wrong with the hyperlinks in this one? 2603 02:11:57,720 --> 02:11:58,240 They all. Work. 2604 02:11:58,240 --> 02:12:00,080 Yeah, they all work do. They not. 2605 02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:01,960 And the table of contents? No. 2606 02:12:01,960 --> 02:12:04,480 Remember you can mouse over it, it becomes a little hand and 2607 02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:06,320 then when you click it. Doesn't do anything. 2608 02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:09,000 They are broken. All the hyperlinks in this are 2609 02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:12,200 broken. Hey, man, I listen. 2610 02:12:12,200 --> 02:12:13,840 I'd be looking at stuff. I'd be seeing things. 2611 02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:16,720 I got my eyes open. Huh. 2612 02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:20,080 Yeah, well that's important. I can only assume that they're 2613 02:12:20,080 --> 02:12:22,240 fixed in the new version. I I would very much assume that. 2614 02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:23,640 Let's get the benefit of the Dow. 2615 02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:29,200 Yeah, I'm fine with that, other than I think my biggest issue is 2616 02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:31,480 how many fucking words are in all the descriptions. 2617 02:12:31,680 --> 02:12:34,600 Like there's plenty of stuff in here that just does not need to 2618 02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:38,880 be quite as worthy as it is. That would make it more usable 2619 02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:42,000 and easy to reference at the table quickly, you know. 2620 02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:45,120 It also might help layout because you're I know some of 2621 02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:47,520 those spots, It's they they put stuff on the next page because 2622 02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:48,840 they would have had like a tiny bit. 2623 02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:51,280 So they put half of it, then cut out a couple of words and just 2624 02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,680 scrunch it up. Verbose as hell, yeah. 2625 02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:57,120 But I think it's in. I think the I don't have a lot 2626 02:12:57,120 --> 02:12:59,080 of issues with the order in which things are in. 2627 02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:04,800 And yeah, I mean it. It's fine for me. 2628 02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:06,760 How are you feeling? It's fine. 2629 02:13:06,760 --> 02:13:08,000 I think what I really would have liked. 2630 02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:10,760 They do reference a a number of times. 2631 02:13:10,760 --> 02:13:11,960 They'll say it's in this section. 2632 02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:13,720 I would like a page number there. 2633 02:13:14,120 --> 02:13:16,160 I would love a page number there, and I'd love an inline 2634 02:13:16,160 --> 02:13:18,520 hyperlink to that page. Yeah, I'm not going to give them 2635 02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:21,440 the benefit out to assume that they put inline hyperlinks in 2636 02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:23,920 the entire book at. All quite any stretch, yeah. 2637 02:13:24,160 --> 02:13:26,680 But you can't inline hyperlink a real book. 2638 02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:30,080 And there's a number of times where, like I think that all 2639 02:13:30,080 --> 02:13:33,400 100% of the time, because a rules book for the most part is 2640 02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:36,000 it's a guidebook. It's a textbook for you to learn 2641 02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:38,920 how to play if you use the word use tally. 2642 02:13:39,000 --> 02:13:41,600 Before you've explained use tally, you should tell me where 2643 02:13:41,600 --> 02:13:44,080 I can find use tally. That is, that is the one that 2644 02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:46,960 jumps out to me. If you talk about armor dice, 2645 02:13:47,160 --> 02:13:49,920 before you explain how armor works, you should tell me where 2646 02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:52,440 I can go read it because I'm going to look around to see wait 2647 02:13:52,440 --> 02:13:54,280 is armor next wins armor? You know what I mean. 2648 02:13:54,600 --> 02:13:58,040 So that's my only My only real issue is a lot of times it will 2649 02:13:58,040 --> 02:14:00,520 reference where it where you can't find it. 2650 02:14:00,520 --> 02:14:05,360 But I would prefer a page number and I would really like 2651 02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:08,040 references the first time something new is introduced so 2652 02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:09,480 that I can see that and then come back. 2653 02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:12,720 That's my only real big thing for usability. 2654 02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:15,480 I think the world map is great. I do think the character sheets 2655 02:14:15,480 --> 02:14:17,200 worked really well. I don't really have a lot of big 2656 02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:18,680 issues. I mean, again, I don't think 2657 02:14:18,680 --> 02:14:21,720 they have hyperlinks, and I think page numbers in the book 2658 02:14:21,720 --> 02:14:24,880 would be better. But bookmarks, hyperlinks. 2659 02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:27,560 I love the links to every single person involved in the book. 2660 02:14:27,680 --> 02:14:29,680 There's a link to be able to find them, which I think every 2661 02:14:29,680 --> 02:14:31,840 single book should have. I have no real issue with 2662 02:14:31,840 --> 02:14:33,800 usability. I don't think it stands out at 2663 02:14:33,800 --> 02:14:40,320 all. That's my thing is like, it's 2664 02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:41,520 it's not, I don't have any good things. 2665 02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:42,960 I don't have any bad things to say. 2666 02:14:43,400 --> 02:14:45,800 Like it's about. It's about, yeah, it's about a 2667 02:14:45,800 --> 02:14:46,920 six. I think it's a bit, it's a 2668 02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:49,720 little bit better than average. It has all the minimum. 2669 02:14:50,560 --> 02:14:52,760 It has all the minimum requirements rule set. 2670 02:14:57,000 --> 02:15:00,280 Fine, I'll hate it, you know? I mean, I I agree. 2671 02:15:00,360 --> 02:15:02,760 I think talents and magic get too crunchy. 2672 02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:08,440 But for the most part, the role under and then the role opposed 2673 02:15:08,440 --> 02:15:09,640 make a lot of sense. It doesn't. 2674 02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:14,760 It's not confusing. I I I could easily parse out 2675 02:15:14,760 --> 02:15:19,800 when to do what and where. I think I'm I do like the weapon 2676 02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:23,000 damage and how it creates this like higher floor for weapons. 2677 02:15:23,160 --> 02:15:26,040 I feel like it makes all actions and combat more meaningful 2678 02:15:26,040 --> 02:15:29,080 because how many times you spend your turn doing 1 fucking damage 2679 02:15:29,080 --> 02:15:31,760 or something or you know whatever to somebody it just 2680 02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:33,920 feels like, well that fucking sucked man. 2681 02:15:34,160 --> 02:15:37,720 I'm OK with things being a little bit more fun or feel a 2682 02:15:37,720 --> 02:15:41,560 little more meaningful. Yeah, I like. 2683 02:15:41,640 --> 02:15:47,440 I like this. I I'm not like, screaming off 2684 02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:50,840 my, you know, the roof of my building about it. 2685 02:15:50,840 --> 02:16:02,480 But like, I do really like this. I so it's a weird one for me 2686 02:16:02,480 --> 02:16:06,760 because I like that they do some things that are different. 2687 02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:08,920 I really do, cuz I always love to see new interesting 2688 02:16:08,920 --> 02:16:11,520 mechanics, right? But I feel like there's I feel 2689 02:16:11,520 --> 02:16:20,720 like there's just some parts of mechanics where hello you're we 2690 02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:22,720 just had someone drop in the chat and your fiction is 2691 02:16:22,720 --> 02:16:24,080 fantastic. Thank you so much for writing 2692 02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:26,240 it. Really it's it's really fucking 2693 02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:30,000 good. My issue I guess with the rules 2694 02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:33,520 is like, I like that they do some some weird stuff because I 2695 02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:37,559 like weird stuff. But I just, I don't know if I 2696 02:16:37,559 --> 02:16:38,719 would use some of the weird stuff. 2697 02:16:38,719 --> 02:16:41,400 Like I personally this I think I would try. 2698 02:16:42,160 --> 02:16:44,160 Here's the thing with with RAW and System Matters and stuff 2699 02:16:44,160 --> 02:16:46,760 like that. Try it before you hack it at 2700 02:16:46,760 --> 02:16:48,320 least once because you might go hot. 2701 02:16:48,320 --> 02:16:49,559 Actually, that works. You know what I mean. 2702 02:16:49,719 --> 02:16:52,400 So I want to try the Social Encounter Texas Holdem game. 2703 02:16:52,719 --> 02:16:56,440 Yeah, I would like to try that. I I want to try it at least 2704 02:16:56,440 --> 02:16:58,120 once, but I feel like once is all I'm gonna do. 2705 02:16:58,760 --> 02:17:00,200 I think the initiative kind of. Feel. 2706 02:17:00,600 --> 02:17:02,040 Like that, yeah. I think the initiative system, 2707 02:17:02,040 --> 02:17:04,959 the adaptation of that, where it's like by action type, is 2708 02:17:04,959 --> 02:17:06,280 really interesting. Not a lot of games do it. 2709 02:17:06,280 --> 02:17:09,000 I think some older games did it, so I think that's really 2710 02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:12,360 interesting. A lot of the other stuff like 2711 02:17:12,360 --> 02:17:15,559 time distance, standard OS are totally fine. 2712 02:17:16,320 --> 02:17:19,520 I love the travel mechanic, the point crawl narrative. 2713 02:17:19,520 --> 02:17:21,000 I think that's a really strong part of it. 2714 02:17:21,080 --> 02:17:24,559 Very cool, yes. And then the character creation 2715 02:17:24,559 --> 02:17:27,280 part, my my biggest issue with the characterization is you know 2716 02:17:27,280 --> 02:17:29,080 this like the game is built around the talents and 2717 02:17:29,080 --> 02:17:33,320 abilities. And I I'm really curious like 2718 02:17:33,320 --> 02:17:36,879 you said, like if your base that is 4 versus the six you're 2719 02:17:36,879 --> 02:17:39,879 shitty and everything you know that's a different that's 2720 02:17:39,879 --> 02:17:43,520 literally adding a whole nother D6 Oh yeah +2 you get +2 most 2721 02:17:43,520 --> 02:17:44,840 everything. The moment you pointed out I'm 2722 02:17:44,840 --> 02:17:46,879 like, oh, the weight of that actually is. 2723 02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:49,360 Crazy. Like crazy. 2724 02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:52,760 Everything. You're better at everything. 2725 02:17:52,760 --> 02:17:54,760 So like that to. Me. 2726 02:17:54,760 --> 02:17:56,480 Like is really interesting. I mean, I like character 2727 02:17:56,480 --> 02:17:57,600 creation. I think it's really interesting. 2728 02:17:57,600 --> 02:18:00,120 I like we said skill, stamina, luck is a great spread. 2729 02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:03,160 It's really interesting spread in a game that's clearly a it's 2730 02:18:03,160 --> 02:18:06,080 a it's a talent and skill. It's a skill game, not a stat 2731 02:18:06,080 --> 02:18:07,400 game, you know? Yes. 2732 02:18:08,200 --> 02:18:10,559 So again, I'm torn. I really really like parts of 2733 02:18:10,559 --> 02:18:12,559 it, and other parts of it like this is 1. 2734 02:18:12,559 --> 02:18:15,160 That I really want to. To see and play. 2735 02:18:15,520 --> 02:18:17,600 But I also think, like character advancement, I think needs to 2736 02:18:17,600 --> 02:18:19,600 complete readjust, because I don't understand why there's 2737 02:18:19,600 --> 02:18:22,680 this weird level of brutality to it that makes you want to, like, 2738 02:18:22,680 --> 02:18:25,760 not learn anything new, right? And that's just for gaining new 2739 02:18:25,760 --> 02:18:28,480 abilities, that's not for advancing current abilities that 2740 02:18:28,480 --> 02:18:29,680 you have. Right. 2741 02:18:29,680 --> 02:18:32,440 But again, I started with only four talents and you only start 2742 02:18:32,600 --> 02:18:33,840 with four and I started with six. 2743 02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:36,040 So, so in order to. Try to even get to where you 2744 02:18:36,040 --> 02:18:39,639 started I'm. Risking my actual stats. 2745 02:18:39,639 --> 02:18:42,120 You know, so I'm torn on the whole set, I think. 2746 02:18:42,120 --> 02:18:43,920 I think there's a lot of fun, neat, interesting things. 2747 02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:46,480 I think it's good adaptations. Of parts of Troika and some of. 2748 02:18:46,480 --> 02:18:48,040 The older stuff, like they said, Fighting Fantasy. 2749 02:18:48,440 --> 02:18:52,680 But there's other parts of it where like, I don't know, I'm, 2750 02:18:52,680 --> 02:18:53,760 I'm torn. I'm torn. 2751 02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:57,360 So I I'm thinking of 6. I'm thinking of six, yeah. 2752 02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:02,879 Originality. OK, here's where we're shining, 2753 02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:06,719 in my opinion. OK yeah, is the originality. 2754 02:19:06,920 --> 02:19:10,200 I think that the what. I just said the. 2755 02:19:10,200 --> 02:19:14,040 Parts let's go by section. So like originality in the rule 2756 02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:16,120 set. I think the that social 2757 02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:18,639 encounter mechanics people bitch for it all the time and you get 2758 02:19:18,639 --> 02:19:20,320 one. It's I think it's interesting. 2759 02:19:20,320 --> 02:19:21,879 It works. I think it works. 2760 02:19:22,120 --> 02:19:23,879 It's just, I don't think it works in the way that I want to 2761 02:19:23,879 --> 02:19:25,799 do social encounters, but I think it's really interesting. 2762 02:19:26,320 --> 02:19:27,920 Yeah, I do too. And I agree. 2763 02:19:27,920 --> 02:19:30,280 Everyone's like, where's the social mechanic And and here's 2764 02:19:30,280 --> 02:19:31,719 one and I feel like this is a cool one. 2765 02:19:31,719 --> 02:19:36,360 To like spark inspiration to create other social mechanics, 2766 02:19:36,959 --> 02:19:39,040 like I think your blackjack ID was really cool and I think 2767 02:19:39,040 --> 02:19:41,240 there's other directions to go from there. 2768 02:19:41,480 --> 02:19:48,520 But yeah, that's pretty cool. I think that I I love sword and. 2769 02:19:48,520 --> 02:19:51,600 Sorcery Games I. Know that there are some out 2770 02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:54,640 there, but like I honestly, as far as like indie games go, can 2771 02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:58,440 you name me a bunch of like, sword and sorcery? 2772 02:19:58,760 --> 02:20:03,520 You know, like Moorcock, Howard. Like, like. 2773 02:20:04,680 --> 02:20:07,360 Style games out there because UVG kind of is. 2774 02:20:07,360 --> 02:20:10,120 It leans more science fantasy. In the same way that. 2775 02:20:10,120 --> 02:20:11,440 Kind of. Levar is a little more. 2776 02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:14,440 Not at all exactly science fantasy. 2777 02:20:14,440 --> 02:20:16,840 There's a lot of fun, neat science fantasies. 2778 02:20:17,040 --> 02:20:20,320 I think the setting. I also think the originality, 2779 02:20:20,880 --> 02:20:23,240 like the way that they did the narrative and how much of the 2780 02:20:23,240 --> 02:20:26,360 world building is in really great little blurbs, like almost 2781 02:20:26,360 --> 02:20:27,680 like these tiny little short stories. 2782 02:20:28,080 --> 02:20:29,680 So cool. I wish more books did that. 2783 02:20:29,680 --> 02:20:30,680 I've said that over and over again. 2784 02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:33,400 I could use that more in in most books that we go through. 2785 02:20:33,400 --> 02:20:34,800 It'd be cool to have whole barbs like that. 2786 02:20:34,800 --> 02:20:36,760 Don't give me no. Keep going, I. 2787 02:20:37,280 --> 02:20:38,840 Was thinking swords and sorcerer games. 2788 02:20:38,840 --> 02:20:40,320 I don't know, Is that what you were asking? 2789 02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:42,640 I mean, I can think of. I can think. 2790 02:20:42,640 --> 02:20:44,360 Of definitely a few. I mean Black Sword hacks. 2791 02:20:44,360 --> 02:20:47,480 The first one that hops out at me, War Plans is another great 2792 02:20:47,480 --> 02:20:49,280 one. Yeah. 2793 02:20:49,320 --> 02:20:50,880 Yeah, it leans that way a little bit more. 2794 02:20:50,920 --> 02:20:53,520 Yeah, it leans that way. It's between this and like Mark 2795 02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:55,280 Borg for me, because there's a little more brutality. 2796 02:20:55,280 --> 02:20:58,400 In that one, yeah. But yeah, I mean, it's not. 2797 02:20:58,400 --> 02:21:00,960 It's definitely. I know there's other ones that 2798 02:21:00,960 --> 02:21:02,680 I'm just. Not thinking of, but it's 2799 02:21:02,680 --> 02:21:08,120 definitely not an overdone like TTRPG genre, you know? 2800 02:21:08,120 --> 02:21:10,120 Yeah, I dig that. I like. 2801 02:21:10,120 --> 02:21:12,360 And I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give them the benefit of 2802 02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:15,680 of being, of, of doing. This too of saying I love that 2803 02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:20,520 they did the first version as a rules book and a world book and 2804 02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:23,080 the way that they did the the character matrices I think is 2805 02:21:23,080 --> 02:21:25,360 really fantastic. I mean, I do think it leans into 2806 02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:27,680 a little bit like, I'm sure there's some inspiration from 2807 02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:29,880 the troika backgrounds where you roll to get your background and 2808 02:21:29,880 --> 02:21:32,680 something that too. So I think there's a lot of 2809 02:21:32,680 --> 02:21:34,760 originality in the rules. I think there's a lot of 2810 02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:38,960 originality in the art, the style, the vibes, the way that 2811 02:21:38,960 --> 02:21:40,280 things are put together and laid out. 2812 02:21:40,280 --> 02:21:42,440 So I think this is one of the parts where it really shines. 2813 02:21:43,560 --> 02:21:47,280 What do you think? You know you I've done this so 2814 02:21:47,280 --> 02:21:49,640 far. You do this one I'm at. 2815 02:21:49,840 --> 02:21:51,920 I'm at minimum of eight. For this I think. 2816 02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:56,720 I think I'm there too, so. Yeah. 2817 02:21:57,640 --> 02:22:00,520 Value I. So it's 10. 2818 02:22:01,800 --> 02:22:04,920 So here's so here's problem. Here's so here's the problem. 2819 02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:06,600 So here's the problem. There's. 2820 02:22:06,600 --> 02:22:08,880 A store where you can get it physically from and you cannot. 2821 02:22:08,880 --> 02:22:10,360 Get it from that store anymore there. 2822 02:22:10,440 --> 02:22:12,600 They are not. Taking orders and I think 2823 02:22:12,600 --> 02:22:14,440 they've empty out their stock on everything. 2824 02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:19,240 So really your only option is to get it on itch dot IO as a 2825 02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:22,080 digital version. It is $10.00 for the digital 2826 02:22:22,080 --> 02:22:24,080 version if I'm not mistaken. Am I correct? 2827 02:22:24,080 --> 02:22:27,800 I think it's 10 bucks. Yeah, and that comes with the 2828 02:22:27,800 --> 02:22:30,000 world map as its own PDF. File. 2829 02:22:30,600 --> 02:22:34,760 Azag, the form fillable character sheet and then the 2830 02:22:34,840 --> 02:22:40,320 Azag version 2A5, which I believe is the updated version 2831 02:22:40,600 --> 02:22:45,400 with the better hyperlinks and stuff for $10. 2832 02:22:45,960 --> 02:22:50,880 Very responsible, you know, I I you can't get the physical tape. 2833 02:22:50,880 --> 02:22:53,400 Oh, I forgot to even show the physical tape this thing is. 2834 02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:57,040 Beautiful, by the way. It's a really, really luscious 2835 02:22:57,040 --> 02:22:59,360 purple. And it's got like gold writing 2836 02:22:59,360 --> 02:23:02,960 on it. Yeah, it's beautiful, yeah. 2837 02:23:03,680 --> 02:23:08,680 And then it's got the, it's the, the, the actual piece inside. 2838 02:23:08,680 --> 02:23:12,000 And then it's got like the the listing inside. 2839 02:23:12,680 --> 02:23:14,600 I was almost hoping for like a stat or something, but you know, 2840 02:23:15,960 --> 02:23:20,480 but so you can, you can get this on band camp. 2841 02:23:20,480 --> 02:23:22,000 I mean you can listen to everything for free on band 2842 02:23:22,000 --> 02:23:25,520 camp, but like support, like the body, they make amazing music. 2843 02:23:26,320 --> 02:23:28,560 Check out their entire page. But the soundtrack for this is 2844 02:23:28,560 --> 02:23:29,800 great. Like you said, we both listened 2845 02:23:29,800 --> 02:23:32,840 to this while we were reading. It definitely set some mood so 2846 02:23:32,920 --> 02:23:34,920 you can get the tape, you can get the PDF for $10 and 2847 02:23:34,920 --> 02:23:37,360 honestly, like a 70 plus page book for 10 bucks is a great, 2848 02:23:37,520 --> 02:23:41,240 great cost for APDF, the form, fillable character sheets, the 2849 02:23:41,240 --> 02:23:43,280 maps, all that. I mean, it sucks that you can't 2850 02:23:43,280 --> 02:23:45,200 get the physical anymore, but that has nothing to do with the 2851 02:23:45,200 --> 02:23:48,560 creator. Maybe they'll be able to find 2852 02:23:48,560 --> 02:23:52,160 another place where you can. I hope they do, 'cause I would 2853 02:23:52,160 --> 02:23:54,760 like to get into physical. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2854 02:23:55,520 --> 02:23:56,960 Yeah. So it's pretty standard for 2855 02:23:56,960 --> 02:23:59,400 value I think the TI think getting. 2856 02:23:59,400 --> 02:24:01,160 A soundtrack is really fantastic for two. 2857 02:24:01,160 --> 02:24:03,000 I think I'm at least a 7 for the value. 2858 02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:08,520 I think I'm at 7 for this one. So we are at. 2859 02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:13,000 A 18 plus. 8 plus. 7. Or we have. 2860 02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:17,120 Like a 32 ish or something 8 + 8 plus. 2861 02:24:17,120 --> 02:24:19,280 Oh why am I doing eights? Yeah, what are you doing? 2862 02:24:19,280 --> 02:24:28,080 Eights 6 + 6 + 6 + 8 plus. 7. 33 Damn a brain. 2863 02:24:29,800 --> 02:24:34,640 So here, So here's this one. I think that I think that our 2864 02:24:34,640 --> 02:24:37,160 metrics don't take into account some of the strengths of this 2865 02:24:37,160 --> 02:24:39,200 book. I think that the. 2866 02:24:39,200 --> 02:24:41,800 Game is better. 33's a fine score, but I think that that 2867 02:24:41,800 --> 02:24:42,840 it's a little bit better than that. 2868 02:24:43,120 --> 02:24:47,720 I think the rule set is fine. I but I think the setting 2869 02:24:47,720 --> 02:24:51,800 really, really, really shines. Another reason I really like the 2870 02:24:51,800 --> 02:24:54,360 world book versus rule book in this because you could literally 2871 02:24:54,360 --> 02:24:58,080 just take the world book in this and run it in any OSR setting or 2872 02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:00,920 with any OSR mechanic like you could you could run the into the 2873 02:25:00,920 --> 02:25:02,600 odd with this and that. It'd be totally fine. 2874 02:25:03,720 --> 02:25:06,840 I think that the one of the massive strengths are the 2875 02:25:06,840 --> 02:25:10,240 writing, the narrative, the the setting the world vibe and that 2876 02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:13,320 doesn't really come out in our. That doesn't really come out in 2877 02:25:13,440 --> 02:25:19,600 our metrics here. There's not, there's not setting 2878 02:25:19,600 --> 02:25:24,000 and lore as a as a metric. So I do think that as a setting 2879 02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:26,640 and lore book, it's fantastic. The art's fantastic. 2880 02:25:28,040 --> 02:25:30,200 I want to play this game. I feel like if we play this game 2881 02:25:30,200 --> 02:25:33,160 they might bump up a couple points because I it could be 2882 02:25:33,160 --> 02:25:34,760 interesting. But I think where we're at, this 2883 02:25:34,760 --> 02:25:37,720 is about good. That's where we're at. 2884 02:25:38,000 --> 02:25:39,320 Do you want to? Let's do the giveaway. 2885 02:25:40,200 --> 02:25:42,800 Oh yeah, the giveaway. I'm right. 2886 02:25:45,120 --> 02:25:47,040 We are going to be giving away a copy. 2887 02:25:47,320 --> 02:25:50,080 Of Wharfland if you have not. Liked that tweet? 2888 02:25:50,080 --> 02:25:51,440 It is. Too late. 2889 02:25:51,600 --> 02:25:56,760 So for those out there, before I even get to my Twitter, this is 2890 02:25:56,760 --> 02:25:59,280 what I do. I go to the Twitter, I count how 2891 02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:01,880 many people there are, I roll the dice for that many, I'll 2892 02:26:01,880 --> 02:26:06,160 roll it in chat and I count from the bottom because that's the 2893 02:26:06,160 --> 02:26:08,320 first people that liked her at the bottom and then to the top. 2894 02:26:08,320 --> 02:26:09,800 It doesn't matter if it's top, bottom, bottom, top. 2895 02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:12,040 I just always pick from the bottom because they were the 2896 02:26:12,040 --> 02:26:16,000 first people that interacted and numbers are are variable anyway. 2897 02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:18,320 So we're getting away the hardcover of war plan from 2898 02:26:18,320 --> 02:26:20,720 Galvao Coroga. Go check out the Black Rainbow 2899 02:26:20,720 --> 02:26:26,360 Society of the Hell Knight expansion over on Kickstarter 2900 02:26:26,360 --> 02:26:28,400 right now. Next week we will be giving away 2901 02:26:28,920 --> 02:26:33,880 Hell Knight with some bonuses with that too and that'll be a 2902 02:26:33,880 --> 02:26:36,720 last hour giveaway and I think the following week the campaign 2903 02:26:36,720 --> 02:26:39,640 and so check that out. So I'm going to go to our. 2904 02:26:41,400 --> 02:26:47,400 I'm going to go to our page. I'm going to. 2905 02:26:47,400 --> 02:26:51,400 Find. The this, I'm going to get to 2906 02:26:51,400 --> 02:27:03,040 the this and I'm going to count 12344 12:00. 2907 02:27:03,040 --> 02:27:08,000 Well, if if Gavro Koroga wins his own book, I'll just have to 2908 02:27:08,000 --> 02:27:11,600 mail it back to him. And. 2909 02:27:13,840 --> 02:27:17,920 Yeah, he also has. OK, listen, Gavro, you have two. 2910 02:27:17,920 --> 02:27:20,200 Twitters One Gavro Caroga. One Caroga Gavro. 2911 02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:22,320 Pick one. I keep tagging one and then it's 2912 02:27:22,320 --> 02:27:25,200 the other one. Good tagging, all right, Yeah. 2913 02:27:25,520 --> 02:27:29,400 So I'm going to roll. Let's. 2914 02:27:29,400 --> 02:27:35,640 Go, you son of a bitch. Guess who won? 2915 02:27:35,640 --> 02:27:36,680 I'm. Going to roll again, obviously, 2916 02:27:36,680 --> 02:27:38,120 because Gavro can't win his own book. 2917 02:27:38,480 --> 02:27:40,040 Oh, they're. Gonna say. 2918 02:27:41,600 --> 02:27:45,000 Ozo 45678. Not no, it's. 2919 02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:48,560 It literally was Gabriel. No, I told Gabriel on to. 2920 02:27:48,600 --> 02:27:57,560 I told Ozo not to not to do this 121. 2345. 2921 02:27:57,560 --> 02:28:01,800 Six, meet Castle. Christian Sorrell meet Castle 2922 02:28:01,800 --> 02:28:05,960 Game where we 234567 meet Castle has won. 2923 02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:09,720 The We're planned, you'll know. Me Castle from being an awesome 2924 02:28:09,720 --> 02:28:11,000 editor, putting a lot of stuff out. 2925 02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:15,520 A lot of Mothership Countdown from Tacticians of Om and check 2926 02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:17,400 all that stuff out as well. So that is our episode for 2927 02:28:17,400 --> 02:28:20,640 today. Check us out tomorrow when we 2928 02:28:20,760 --> 02:28:24,080 are going to have the fellows from Liminal Horror, Josh and 2929 02:28:24,200 --> 02:28:28,480 Galvin archives going on to do a writing seminar on how to adopt 2930 02:28:28,480 --> 02:28:33,040 A mystery for their Twisted Classics Jam for Luminal Horror 2931 02:28:33,440 --> 02:28:36,600 prior to the release of their next Luminal Horror expansion. 2932 02:28:36,600 --> 02:28:38,440 So thank you so much for being here. 2933 02:28:38,840 --> 02:28:41,120 Check out Azag. It's definitely worth getting. 2934 02:28:41,640 --> 02:28:43,640 Definitely worth checking out. The rules are interesting. 2935 02:28:43,640 --> 02:28:45,800 The setting is fantastic. The writing is even better. 2936 02:28:47,480 --> 02:28:48,240 That's it. That's us. 2937 02:28:48,360 --> 02:28:50,680 I'll see you later buddy. Farewell. 2938 02:28:50,760 --> 02:28:50,960 Bye.