1 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,080 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll podcast. 2 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:20,880 My Name Is Ryan. And I'm 100 different, more 3 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,560 concise hacks. All right, We're just jumping 4 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,760 right into it. So, hey, listen, today we are 5 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,640 going to be looking at Apocalypse World from Meg and 6 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,200 Vincent Baker. And I'll tell you right off the 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,640 bat, if you didn't like our review of Blades in the Dark, 8 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,520 you won't like this one either. So you really won't. 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,440 So here's we we were talking on this a little bit before because 10 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,880 this we we, we, our little ADHD brain, struggle to read this one 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,400 in a in a similar but different way. 12 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,960 At least for me, I don't know if it's free from blades in the 13 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,360 dark like that. Was just such a difficult book 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,600 to parse. I don't know, more difficult. 15 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,880 I don't know if this was difficult in the same way. 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,400 I think I didn't like reading this one. 17 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,800 I think it was like, I don't like reading that one either. 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,520 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I didn't like 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,880 reading both of them. Blade and Dark. 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,960 I really genuinely had a hard, a hard time with it. 21 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:15,480 Felt like a lot of text packed into small spaces. 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,840 This one has some breathing room, but it's just very, very 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,920 conversational. Yeah, it really sounds like 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,880 someone with and. And here's the thing I I I say 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,760 this from experience because I know this is how I talk. 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,920 It sounds like someone had with ADHD, had too many Red Bulls, 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,480 and just ranted the entire story at you in one go. 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:43,040 But, and that's why it repeats itself so many times and then 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,160 talks about things but doesn't get to them until like 200 pages 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,800 later and like. We start with the caveat in our 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,480 own discussion before this, which is that the original 32 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,760 version of this game is from like 2010, right? 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:04,040 This is this is TUI, which is, I mean I still think it was 2016. 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,080 So OK, so here let me do the. I have a whole. 35 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:08,840 Spiel. Oh yeah. 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,280 Do the opening. Yeah, hold on here we go. 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,200 We have new openings things to Josh Dimansky because he he 100 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,480 plus episodes in he told us or at least by his own preparation, 39 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,000 things that we should have been doing instead. 40 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,920 It's on my Discord. So yeah, there was a couple 41 00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:25,320 things I wanted to say. I Discord messaged myself 42 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,960 because I didn't want to put it in notes app and I meant to put 43 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,280 it into paper and then I didn't do that either. 44 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:37,680 So first and foremost, let's say that Meg Baker did come down 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:38,920 with illness a couple of months ago. 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,280 Maybe I'm completely wrong because I meant to write in 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:47,400 here, but she did get diagnosed with breast cancer, yeah, on 48 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,360 7/17. And there is a meal train, which 49 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:57,520 is like a GoFundMe set up to help support her while she is in 50 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,280 appointments and I'm unable to work and things like that. 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,320 So we will that it's still active, it's still opening and 52 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,160 still donate. I donated a while ago, so we 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,400 will make sure that that link is in the in all the shit so that 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,600 you can donate to Meg. From everything that I've heard 55 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,080 about Meg Baker, she sounds like the fairy godmother of a lot of 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,520 the people in the TTRPG. Universally loved, universally 57 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,000 respected, has seemed that everyone that's ever met her has 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,040 felt supported by her. So that would be a really nice 59 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,640 thing for everyone to do if they could. 60 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,000 If it's possible for you to donate to. 61 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,200 I keep pointing data as if the link's down there already. 62 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,680 It's not, but it will be. It will be. 63 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,840 So that's the first thing I wanted to say. 64 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,440 So definitely try to support Meg as she goes through this 65 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,880 situation if you can. And if you can't financially 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:44,960 share on the link. That always helps. 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:50,160 So second, all right, the spiel for Apocalypse World. 68 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,960 OK. So it originally came out in 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,480 2010, OK. And when I think back to what I 70 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,240 was doing in 2010, that's just so that's so crazy. 71 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,760 That's like 13 years ago I. Was doing drugs. 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,080 So yeah, I wasn't even playing tabletop role play games in 20. 73 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,400 I wasn't. Yeah, but when it came out, it 74 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,800 won the 2010 Indie RPG Award for Game of the Year. 75 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,320 It won the indie the 2010 Indie RPG Award for Most Innovative 76 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Game. It won the 2011 Golden Geek 77 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,839 Award for RPG of the Year, as well as a number of other 78 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,840 awards. So when this came out, it really 79 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:27,400 blew a lot of people's minds. It's a lot different now, 13 80 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,680 years later, when there's like 1000 PBTA games that are done 81 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,000 differently. But this is the original, So the 82 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 2016, the 2nd Edition came out 2016. 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:42,000 That is when Vincent Baker of Lovely Games added Meg Baker on 84 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,960 to the game as well. That's when she joined to help 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:50,120 write the game It funded on Kickstarter for 4332 backers, 86 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:57,680 pledging $149,681.00, so about almost 150 K in 2016 for a 87 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,960 tabletop game. Which also sounds crazy. 88 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,880 That doesn't actually sound pretty crazy. 89 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,760 Yeah, and again, this is Lumply Games is the creator. 90 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,480 You can find them on Twitch. That's Vincent Baker. 91 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,880 You can find their a blog that talks all about putting stuff 92 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,280 together and and they're active on Twitter and stuff like that. 93 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,880 The other thing I want to talk about before we hop into this is 94 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,960 what is a PBTA Powered by the Apocalypse isn't the name of a 95 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,920 category of games, set of games, set of games, features or the 96 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,680 thrust of any games design. It's the name of Meg's and 97 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,080 Vincent's policy concerning other's use of the intellectual 98 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,600 property and creative work. And if you don't believe me, 99 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,560 that is literally from their website. 100 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,080 That is a quote from Vincent Baker. 101 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,640 There is literally a page on their on their website called 102 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,560 like what is PTA or whatever. And that's what it is. 103 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:55,240 So the the all of the and if you read through some of the lumpy 104 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,880 blog stuff about writing a PBTA, it talks about a lot of the 105 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,160 mechanical aspects that have now been tied to PBTA were never 106 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,120 intended to be a system like the Apocalypse World is written to 107 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,480 be Apocalypse World, not a system and obviously a an 108 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,160 ecosystem of systems has come from that. 109 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,160 So just to get off the bat, 2D6 mixed success and playbooks and 110 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,200 moves and stuff like that doesn't mean it's a PBTA. 111 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,000 And if you don't have it, it doesn't mean it's not a PBTA per 112 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,400 the creator. Per per them, I think there's a, 113 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,520 there's a that that like intent versus execution thing here. 114 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,200 I see that with the caveat too because at the end of the book 115 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,040 we get to a section called Powered by the Apocalypse which 116 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,120 is literally other people's like move hacks of it. 117 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,400 So it's it's it's interesting that they then chose to use it 118 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,120 and say it's not that thing that we said at the back of the book. 119 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,840 But yeah, so that is part by the apocalypse. 120 00:06:50,840 --> 00:06:52,840 So do we want to complain now or just the whole time? 121 00:06:54,280 --> 00:06:56,200 I think we we did some preliminary compliance. 122 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,240 Just if you're listening, this is going to be one of those 123 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,360 episodes where we don't read word for word because this book 124 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,240 has a lot of words and a lot of them are not necessary. 125 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,040 It's 309 pages and it's not even that it's jam packed. 126 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,440 There's a lot of empty space in this book, but it's there's a 127 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,960 lot of things that are said that. 128 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,520 I think part of it is just like the evolution of how we write 129 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,800 games and the understanding that the ecosystem has about how 130 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,120 games are run. Things are less explained now 131 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,080 because there's more context, because we have a better 132 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,520 understanding of like this is the rule, this is how it works 133 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,840 and and you don't need to really expand upon any more than that. 134 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,680 And and sometimes I think we've been like, oh, it would be great 135 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,120 to have play examples here and maybe that is why there's so 136 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,240 much here. It's because it's really a 137 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,880 progenitor to all these things. But yeah, so we're going to. 138 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,720 We're going to. Surmise. 139 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,440 There's going to be, there's going to be a lot of pedantic 140 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,520 bitching and I don't think a lot of it's pedantic. 141 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,320 I think a lot of it is just well, let's get in. 142 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,600 I'll just yes, you're right. We did preliminary complaining 143 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,800 and I'll just get another complaining. 144 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,960 There's a there's a really early thing that I think would would 145 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,200 change a lot about this book. So let's address that. 146 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:07,560 First of all two things about the cover. 147 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,120 One, it's dope as fuck. And two, I love that it's a 148 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,240 photograph. Yeah, totally. 149 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,720 Great cover. Just very iconic. 150 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,840 You know, like, yeah, yeah, Good cover for those that haven't 151 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,880 seen it, it's an apocalypse looking person, like with a red 152 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,000 like gas mask on. Like old school gas mask with 153 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,560 the tube kind of looking up the sky looking like maybe they 154 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,040 either just put it on or they're tearing it off. 155 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,440 There's like smoke behind them, like it's just a dope fucking 156 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,159 cover and like this one, the Red. 157 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Just is great off of that smoke from the back, it's so good. 158 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,840 I will say I do enjoy the red on the the actual book cover, 159 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,680 better than the white on the PDF cover. 160 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:51,880 But again, it's just a PDF. It's fine and I know that the 161 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,720 1st edition as far as pictures I found of it is a completely 162 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,920 different piece of art which also looks dope as fuck. 163 00:08:57,680 --> 00:08:59,800 So again, it's one of those books that I'd love to have, 164 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:09,120 just to have and I will say from a from a strictly like text 165 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,360 usability standpoint, it is bookmarked to fuck. 166 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,360 It is hyperlinked to hell yeah, It has indexes at the back, It 167 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,160 has glossary at the back, It's got hyperlink table of contents 168 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,600 in the front. There is very little more that I 169 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,400 could want from a PDF. They did a really fucking good 170 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:31,200 job of at the very least making the PDF navigable, you know, and 171 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:34,720 and I do appreciate that. We start off with the list of 172 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,400 other games with It's in Baker. I have never really read a lot 173 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,880 of these other games. I know that a lot of people are 174 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:45,200 into Firebrands, which is called a romance game, and then other 175 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,640 games from Meg Baker listed here as well. 176 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,280 But there's a bunch in a Wicked Age, Dogs in a Vineyard spin, 177 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,440 the Beatle, the eventual demon of the ring. 178 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,240 I don't know what that is, but that sounds cool. 179 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,760 I do have some of the recent stuff that they put out. 180 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,680 We might get a chance to go over sometime, but 1001 nights. 181 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:02,920 Valiant Girls from Meg Apocalypse World, Master of 182 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,640 Ceremonies. So this is a page where I went 183 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,320 back to double check and didn't see. 184 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,560 So this is what's interesting to me. 185 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:12,680 So this is Apocalypse World, the Master of Ceremonies Playbook 186 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:17,240 Second Edition 2016 Dee Vincent Baker and Maggie Baker. 187 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,760 Meg Way Baker, Meg Baker. So Illustration and Book Design 188 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,720 by Dee Vincent Baker, 2010 2016. Cover Photo by Elsmont. 189 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,880 Stock photos, you know, and then a couple of things. 190 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,640 Is there any? And this is says a lumply game. 191 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,120 It's got the original part by the Apocalypse logo on this one 192 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,080 and it's rated R for language, sex and violence. 193 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,360 Sex is in this game. Interesting. 194 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,160 Interesting. It was interesting, especially 195 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,240 like, I mean, I have a very modern take on these games. 196 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,320 Like, it's really only been the past few years that I've really 197 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,200 gotten into, like the the non what's up? 198 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,880 No, keep going. Yeah, I like the non traditional 199 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,840 tabletop gaming. And like, yeah, you know, it's 200 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,560 really avoided in almost everything. 201 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,720 So it was interesting to like, oh, they talk about that here. 202 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,320 I mean, I don't inherently have any issue with it, but like, my 203 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,720 table is probably not that. But yeah, I wouldn't have sex on 204 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,000 my table. But like, the way that they do 205 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,360 sex in this game is really interesting. 206 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,240 We're definitely going to talk about it because it's definitely 207 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,360 not making love and trying to have romances. 208 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,120 It's it's it's having sex and bugging. 209 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,320 So we'll get to it, but is there, is there any anything on 210 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,520 this page that you find extremely that you find missing 211 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,320 maybe like a different kind of person that generally would be 212 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,840 on this page? Oh, an editor. 213 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,080 An editor. My God does this book and I'm. 214 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,920 Fucking editor, that actually really does. 215 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,520 I did not like. God, it would I. 216 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,240 It would change so much if someone sat down. 217 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,760 I was just like, again, going to the analogy of someone just like 218 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,000 ranting the game at you. If someone was like, OK, bro, 219 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,440 you said that like three times already. 220 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,640 Let's just cut that part out. Like would make such a huge 221 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,240 difference. An editor could cut this down to 222 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,000 150 pages. I mean really they they very 223 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,680 much could do. I think there's a lot of good in 224 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:09,840 here. I think I think there now has is 225 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,160 like hacks of this. I think have less of the same 226 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,760 stuff that I think do a little more with it. 227 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,920 But I think other than that, yeah, I mean cutting down the. 228 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,480 The needless word count and like the triple mention and stuff, 229 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,240 we'll get into it. But yeah, and that is there with 230 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,640 a band. The good idea. 231 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,560 My goodness. And here's The thing is this 232 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:34,440 game is, is I I like games that are spoken with like a voice. 233 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,280 When a game has a personality of like, it feels like the person 234 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,640 that's playing the game is like talking to you. 235 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,520 But I like it in the way like marching order does right. 236 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,200 This doesn't sound like like the creator made like this character 237 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,720 that's talking to you. I don't know how to explain the 238 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:48,560 game. It's not. 239 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:51,720 The creator is just having an extraordinarily casual 240 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,040 conversation about we're in the. Kitchen at a house party with a 241 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,960 beer. Oh my God, I'm explaining to 242 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,760 you. Keep what you kill. 243 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,960 I'm like, listen, so it's that it's that meme of like, the 244 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,680 dude, like holding that girl's neck and just like talking into 245 00:13:06,680 --> 00:13:08,000 her ear. She's like. 246 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,360 Caring for it. OK, dude, there's literally a 247 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,480 part. Like there's numerous parts and 248 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,760 it's like, well, this is what I do for my house rule and I'm 249 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,440 like, bro, you brought the game. All the house rules are the 250 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,400 rules. Why the rules? 251 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,800 Come on. So OK, let's actually get into 252 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,320 it. So you'll also need some stuff. 253 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,000 I love that so much of Apocalypse World is free and out 254 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,200 there for you. You can just go to the website 255 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,360 and download a ton of it. Totally. 256 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,880 That's the other thing about Mega Vincent Baker is they 257 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,600 never, really, they never asked for for money, really for 258 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:44,720 anybody to use their system. And again in 2010 this was very 259 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,120 different and then basically opening up the entire system to 260 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,560 be able to be hacked and made money off. 261 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,360 And it's crazy the number of names you see in this book that 262 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,080 made very popular PBTS afterwards. 263 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:00,160 John Harper, Adam Coble, like a lot of the original like first 264 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,680 Gen. PBTA's are in this book. 265 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,800 So it's interesting, but they have been extremely generous 266 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,120 with their the popularity of their system. 267 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,000 I think the culture owes them a couple bucks. 268 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,520 I know they did something recently. 269 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:15,960 We're like, hey, you could back this. 270 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,200 And yes, the money. If you've used her, I think 271 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,960 they're probably more than they actually got. 272 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,880 Yeah, well, yeah. A lot of the recent tiers for 273 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,040 the Kickstarters lately, there's literally a tier that says, hey, 274 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,280 if you're a game designer who made a bunch of money off of 275 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,600 PBTA and you want back at this tier to literally just give us 276 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:33,720 money, we've never asked for any. 277 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,320 But if you feel like you might owe it to us because. 278 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,960 You need money off of us. They're probably owed that 279 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:44,840 money. So getting into this, I'm we're, 280 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,440 I'm hoping and I know this, this as we get into books, we say 281 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,240 this and then we don't do it. I want to skim like 90% of this. 282 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,680 So we're going to do a lot of. Definitely going to, I'm going 283 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,880 to like, sit here, I'm going to crack out the whip. 284 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,080 And every time we get too deep, I'm going to start, yeah, 285 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,600 raising it above my head and screaming, Well, The thing is, I 286 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,680 do want to skim through most of it because we don't need to talk 287 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,440 about most of it so that we can't talk about the parts we 288 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,160 really want to talk about the other thing, the other thing 289 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,560 that I think an editor would have helped massively with as we 290 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,520 go through these two pages, 3 pages of of table of contents, 291 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,640 is the order of the sections makes my brain explode. 292 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,400 It seems like they wrote all of the chapter headings down on 293 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,440 cards, the room on a table, did a casino shuffle, and it was 294 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,560 just like, that's probably good because I don't understand why 295 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,200 things are in the order that they're in, right? 296 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,160 Why do you? Why do you have the basics and 297 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:41,880 then the playbooks, right? And then a whole GM section of 298 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,840 stuff and then go back to the basic moves. 299 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,600 So the first time you really get a solid read through of like how 300 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,640 to play the game by its basic moves is 136 pages in Why is 301 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,600 Harm and Healing, which is a basic component of the game, 200 302 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,240 pages in like I don't understand that at all. 303 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:02,360 Why is the MC section like the third thing, and why are all of 304 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,960 the players playbooks literally like the second chapter heading? 305 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:12,840 I actually went to go look at my my favorite PBTA, which is a not 306 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,040 very good. I think it's a good game. 307 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,360 It's not very balanced game to see where the playbooks were in 308 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,120 this one. And you know what? 309 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,960 They're at the fucking end where they should be. 310 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:23,800 I don't understand. Here's the other thing too. 311 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,760 Reading this, I reached out to a person who I love and respect. 312 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,160 They're fantastic. Aaron King, If you want to know 313 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,040 how to play a PBTA, you need to read Patrick World 60. 314 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,320 They do their take on PBTA, but as far as explaining how things 315 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,120 like moves work and clocks work and and and things like that, it 316 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,240 is like such. It is, in my opinion, like the 317 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:56,480 primer for how to understand the intent of a thing. 318 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,840 That's a little bit headier sometimes because it's not 319 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,320 completely straightforward, even though it kind of is like 320 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:07,359 because of the concept of moves. But Patch of World 60 is made me 321 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,240 reading this easier to parse because I knew the parts are 322 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,359 important and how they're actually like, meant to run. 323 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,240 I feel like this is one of the, like, my least favorite and most 324 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,880 poorly explained PBTA is the original PBTA. 325 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,240 Yeah. So that's correct. 326 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,720 So world is great. And every time I read it, I like 327 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,040 it more. Not that they don't like it at 328 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,920 first, but after like going through a couple times like, 329 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,840 man, this is really, really good. 330 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,520 Yeah, Yeah. And also just the fact that the 331 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,120 moves really are questions, and that's something that I really 332 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:38,360 want to dig into. So anyway, check out Patrick 333 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:40,360 World from Aaron King. Aaron King has also done like 334 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:44,000 actual just like straight up books about PBT moves and things 335 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,880 like that. They are like the PBTA master. 336 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,960 So anything from Aaron King definitely want to go check out 337 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:54,640 all of their things as far as PBTA and all of its how to's. 338 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,840 So I'm not even going to go through the list of stuff in 339 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,640 table contents because it's like 20 things where you going to 340 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,640 start with the basics. I will say this is what I always 341 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,520 mean when we talk on about games on I want a rundown of the rules 342 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,080 before we get to characterization so I can 343 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:10,360 understand why I'm creating my character in that way. 344 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:12,520 So. So I really like that they start 345 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:13,960 with that. That's my favorite part. 346 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,040 And then we go from there. So yeah. 347 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, huh. 348 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,880 Yeah, 303 hundred. So it's really not 300 pages, 349 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,600 because by the time you get, it's like 288 before it starts 350 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,240 getting into other things. And then the playbooks 351 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,800 themselves take up like 50 pages. 352 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,160 So at the end of the day, when you really look at like the 353 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,280 stuff that you like quote, UN quote, need to read, you're 354 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:41,280 looking at more like 50 pages. 10 you know, well, outside of 355 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,600 those things you can chop off, I'm talking so you can drop off 356 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,120 like like 70 pages for just playbooks and like extra stuff 357 00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:49,680 at the end, like indexes, things like that. 358 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,960 So down to like 230, it's still a lot. 359 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,200 So we get to our first piece of art here. 360 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,440 It's fine. It it, it kind of looks as if 361 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,720 you dropped a photograph into Illustrator, did an image trace 362 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,520 on it, and it just creates like a very chopped up shapy vector 363 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,040 image. It reminds me of the way that 364 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,000 John Harper did the the, the, the, the art in Blades in the 365 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,720 Dark. But this is a much more, I want 366 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,920 to say amateurish. Like it it this is much simpler 367 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,520 versus what John Harper did in theirs. 368 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,760 But but it's fine. There's basically no art in the 369 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,920 entire book. They're basically the chapter 370 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,320 headers, and that's about it. And the art's fine. 371 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:34,360 It's serviceable, It's got some vibes to it, kind of understand 372 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,920 what's going on. Like this one, for example. 373 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,440 Definitely blood on their hands. I do dig that. 374 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,840 Or at least that's all I saw it, sure. 375 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:45,760 That's not exactly how I saw it, but you saying that I'm like, 376 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:51,080 yeah, OK yeah I do like the whatever. 377 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,200 The thought is that they chose the entire way through this like 378 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,600 really beat to shit tech face or whatever. 379 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,200 Definitely a high. Point. 380 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,440 But vibe. Vibe. 381 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,080 Really dig it. Here's the thing, man. 382 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:07,520 This could have been is he? But anyway, so I'm going to do a 383 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,440 quick run through of the basics, as we're going to do a quick run 384 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,520 through of everything else, and we're actually going to talk 385 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,840 about the mechanical bits when we get to them because they're 386 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:20,280 very few and far between. So just kicking off setting the 387 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,280 setting up the game here a little bit. 388 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,640 So Apocalypse World, nobody remembers how or why maybe 389 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,280 nobody ever knew. The oldest living survivors have 390 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,680 childhood memories of it. Cities burning, society and 391 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,120 chaos Then collapse, the family set to panicked flight. 392 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,320 The weird nights when the smoldering sky made midnight 393 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,920 into a blood colored half day. Now the world is not what it 394 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,640 once was. Look around you, evidently 395 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,200 certainly not what it was. But also close your eyes, open 396 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,520 your brain. Something is wrong at the limits 397 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,840 of perception, something howling, ever present, full of 398 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,840 hate and terror. From this, the world's psychic 399 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,360 maelstrom. We none of us have shelter. 400 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,720 I will say I wish the psychic maelstrom felt more present in 401 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,080 the rules. Yeah, it kind of feels like they 402 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,440 brought it up at the very, yeah, at the very end they go, OK, but 403 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,560 this is how it works, like 250 pages then. 404 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:23,000 So I think the length of the book makes the book worse 405 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,840 because it takes so long to get to the important parts. 406 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,800 So setting up to play you you find players. 407 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,240 This is a part that I I didn't really. 408 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,640 So it's the one line in here says the game really kicks in 409 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,120 around the sixth session mark and it can go much longer. 410 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,760 If it takes 6 sessions to really get to the meat of your game, 411 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,040 you're not going to play that game with a lot of people. 412 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,800 You know what I mean? Like that kind of reminds me of 413 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,720 the whole like blades in the dark thing where it's like you 414 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,760 won't understand it the first time you read this and I'm like, 415 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,200 well, then you wrote it bad. Like, you know what a. 416 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,360 Weird thing to put in, even if it was true. 417 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,280 First off, if I feel like that about my own game, I might 418 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,680 revisit some things about it. Second off, I if that was true 419 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,600 and I liked my game, I would not put that in my game. 420 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,120 I wouldn't tell you that. I would like reading that I'm 421 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:20,800 like OK I'm just not going to do this yeah that's that's exactly 422 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,000 that would that would that would that is the first time I would 423 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,080 bounce off this game. If I I'll tell you right now, if 424 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,360 I didn't have to read this for the review, I would have bounced 425 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,240 off this like 8 times. Probably never finished it. 426 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,120 Oh, I didn't. I did not finish this. 427 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,920 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So. 428 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,920 And this kind of starts the whole written in an extremely 429 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:48,960 casual chatty part right here. Basically it says gather the 430 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,960 supplies that you need, whatever, get some playbooks 431 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,720 together. Playbooks are the characters, 432 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,320 like 4 page character sheets. You need those. 433 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,680 You can download them at Apocalypse World. 434 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,200 Again, that's linked. It's great. 435 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,600 This one's not linked, but it's linked earlier. 436 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Continuing at the basics, the conversation role-playing is a 437 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,440 conversation. We all know that now in 2010, 438 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,760 it's probably good to have this in here. 439 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,160 But again, as part of the basics, I don't mind this being 440 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,840 in here. The rules mediate the 441 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,640 conversation. They kick in when someone says 442 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,280 some particular things and they oppose constraints on what 443 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,440 everyone should say after. Makes sense right? 444 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,760 Again, we start seeing bits and pieces of that like 445 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,120 conversational tone that just gets worse as you go moves and 446 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:33,560 dice. The particular thing that makes 447 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,800 these rules kick in are called moves. 448 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,600 So there is more than a page in the basic section. 449 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,960 It ends up being a page and a half on, kind of like what moves 450 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,560 are without really telling you how to do moves until the very 451 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,360 end. And this is a perfect example of 452 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,320 what I'm talking about when we go to this page here on page 10, 453 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,880 right? It is an entire page talking 454 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,920 about moves, giving examples of moves having very casual 455 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,080 conversation of moves. And in the last paragraph it 456 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,360 says OK, so each move says which stat the player should add to 457 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:10,760 their roll. To roll A+ stat, the player 458 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,160 rolls two dice, adds them, and adds the stat. 459 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,560 If the sum total is 6 or less, that's amiss. 460 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,880 If it's a seven or more, it's a hit. 461 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:21,160 Seven and nine is a weak hit, 10 plus is a strong hit that. 462 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280 That's two sentences right there explaining what this page and 463 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,720 1/2 is talking about. And the difference that I found 464 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,840 between this book and Blades in the Dark is even though I felt 465 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,640 like Blades in the Dark had way too much writing to explain a 466 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,920 very basic concepts like 10 pages per rule. 467 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,160 What they did though is they actually took the rule out, put 468 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,160 it at the top in bold and said here is the rule. 469 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,800 Now let me talk about it. Now let me talk about it way too 470 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,600 much, but the rule is at the top. 471 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,200 OK, this says, let me talk about this thing way too much. 472 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:58,600 And at some point, with no actual designation of what I'm 473 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,680 talking about in this 2 pages, a rule will be in there somewhere. 474 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,600 Hope you find it. That's how I felt about the 475 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,200 whole game, that I felt like I had to dig for Easter eggs to be 476 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,920 like, oh, that's a core mechanic of the game. 477 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,160 Yeah, it's like every subheading. 478 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,400 I was skimming under it to find what part of the subheading was 479 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,320 actually like the mechanical part of that. 480 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,720 And actually there's another this same section that you're 481 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,680 talking about. The third from the last 482 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,920 paragraph also has another actual rule in it, but it's like 483 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,200 the third from the last paragraph explains. 484 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,080 You know, take plus one forward or take -1 of them going, it's 485 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,520 like, oh, float, float all that shit all the way to the top, all 486 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,320 the way to the top. And at no point when I got to 487 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,600 the end and I saw all the indexes and glossaries and 488 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,560 everything, I'm like dope. There's going to be, there's 489 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,120 going to be like maybe there'll be like a two page breakdown of 490 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:48,320 like the core stuff. Nope, Nope. 491 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,080 It's like actively, actively decided to be like, Oh well, we 492 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,000 didn't ride the system. So this isn't, there is no core 493 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,840 part to the game. It's really about the narrative. 494 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,720 And it's like, yes, but here's the thing, like if you give, if 495 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,320 you give a four year old, a couple of four year olds right, 496 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,240 a bag of marbles and say go play with them, sometimes you'll have 497 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,120 more of them, sometimes you'll have less of them, and 498 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:12,560 eventually you'll have math like that's not helpful. 499 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,640 At all, right. But if you go, here's 1 marble, 500 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,400 here's 1 marble. And you block a bunch of monkeys 501 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,640 in the room with a typewriter. Eventually, you'll get 502 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,080 Shakespeare. Right, like the the war against 503 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,240 like explaining the mechanics in this book broke my little brain. 504 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,360 Like it? Is interesting because like this 505 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,800 is a system like you can say whatever you want and you can 506 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,960 feel however you want. But this when you sit down and 507 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,320 write a game that has dice mechanics, it tied to a 508 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,960 narrative flow like you made the system, like it is in fact. 509 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,480 And even if you don't want the players to in to, what's really 510 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,040 interesting is how much you have to engage with the system and 511 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:53,960 how little it wants you to engage with the system. 512 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,000 Right. Which is really interesting. 513 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:01,760 We'll get to some other why I don't like moves later. 514 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,240 But again so moves and dice. That's basically what the 515 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,600 section says and it's a page and a half to explain that and you 516 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,720 have to dig into that section about it. 517 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,640 And the other thing that it does a lot throughout the entire 518 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,680 thing is it never really separates another says here's a 519 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,160 rule. Here's an example of play. 520 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240 It's just as they're talking, suddenly they'll just break into 521 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,040 what other players are doing and this and that. 522 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,520 So that's another issue, is that there's so many examples of 523 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,200 play, but it's not written as examples of play. 524 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,120 It's written as just like a one paragraph. 525 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:35,040 Oh, sometimes a player will do something like this and suddenly 526 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,240 there's quotations and stuff. I'm going to be really honest, I 527 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,720 didn't read any of the examples of play in this there. 528 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,560 That's what I'm saying is they're not really example of 529 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,240 play as much as it's just like a continuation of the rant and be 530 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,720 like, so sometimes, sometimes I'll do this, but it's now I 531 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,600 would have much rather like gotten a rule and then add a 532 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,320 section called example of play for how moves work as opposed to 533 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,600 like getting bits and chunks of it like all over the place And 534 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,720 one of the core things about it. And then we'll move on because I 535 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,560 don't want the basics. But this section explaining like 536 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,440 moves is bigger than the section explaining moves in the move 537 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,000 section. And they do that frequently 538 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,440 throughout where it's like here's some parts, but you'll 539 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,920 find it actually really later. But this part actually explains 540 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,400 it better than that part later and it's so redundant. 541 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,880 There's so many redundancies. But here's the another issue I 542 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,360 have So the rules for moves is to do it. 543 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,360 Do it. That's bolded, right? 544 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,280 In order for it to be a move and for the player to roll dice, the 545 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,480 kicker has to do something that counts as that move. 546 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,320 And whenever the character does something that counts as a move, 547 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,400 it's the move and the players roll dice. 548 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,720 So it says usually it's unambiguous quote, UN quote, 549 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,640 like right in. Damn it, I guess I crawl out 550 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,480 there. I try to keep my head down. 551 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,800 So I'm doing it under fire, quote UN quote. 552 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,080 Like Yep. But there are two ways they 553 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,920 sometimes don't line up and it's your job as MC to deal with 554 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,600 them, right. So this is the thing too. 555 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:02,120 It's it's I feel like the writer was extremely unsure that people 556 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,200 would understand it. So they over explained it. 557 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,080 Yeah way too much. And again not in a blaze in the 558 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,120 dark way where it's like here's like from Adm perspective it's 559 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,360 more of just like here's my thought process like dumped out 560 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,480 over and over and over again. So here's the issue really quick 561 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,640 that I have with Moves and why this book is the is like the 562 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,680 reason I have issues with moves in the way that it's written, 563 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,080 right? So there's my issue with moves 564 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,080 is a common issue with moves in that I don't like the basic move 565 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,400 list because I feel like everybody will just be staring 566 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,120 at the list going, OK, what can I do right, Right. 567 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,800 Like, well, I have to do one of these. 568 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,840 But when you read blogs and stuff, a lot of people are 569 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,120 alike. There's this this thing that for 570 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,920 PBT ads that go well, if they don't trigger a move, they can 571 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,800 just do whatever they want to do, right? 572 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,760 So if you're just walking through the door, you don't have 573 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,880 to roll for it. If you're doing this, you don't 574 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,560 have to roll for it's only when you trigger a move. 575 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,680 So you have to know the moves well enough to know when you 576 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,640 trigger them and all this other stuff. 577 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,440 But like that that aspect of like don't roll when you don't 578 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,280 have to roll is so poorly explained in this. 579 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,160 But this idea of like to do it, do it, and if you do it then do 580 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,280 the moves or whatever is over is is is dumped and dumped and 581 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,440 dumped. So it comes down to the way that 582 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,000 you write a game will intrinsically affect the way 583 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,800 people play the game, right? It's the it's the reason Fivey 584 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,200 writes the way it does to force people to play in the way that 585 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,600 they want them to play it. So in here the moves are 586 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,840 explained in this way where it's like, well, they only, they only 587 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,720 like are triggered when you trigger them. 588 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,600 OK, So you don't have to roll all the time, but then you get 589 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,920 to parts of the game that are literally like, you know what? 590 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,360 You know, you know how to end the session. 591 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,520 You do a move, you know what you do once the game is over and you 592 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,160 have to like highlight other people's stats. 593 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,000 It's a move. Like you literally have like 594 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,400 meta outside of game moves. So it feels like everything is a 595 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,240 move. Like I expected there to be like 596 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,600 a have to get up to piss move. Like it feels like everything 597 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,680 you do, you can't do anything until you make a quote, UN quote 598 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,440 move. But intrinsically very poorly 599 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,840 explained in here is that you don't have that not everything 600 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,600 is a move. So it's like, but if you write 601 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,200 the game where everything feels like a move, then people will 602 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,440 always be looking for a move to do as opposed to doing what they 603 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,400 want and then seeing if they have to roll because it 604 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,520 triggered a move. People will be looking at the 605 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,920 basic move list and going well, I have to do one of these. 606 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,560 So instead of like allowing the narrative to to like, do 607 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,600 whatever you want and if then if it triggers a move, you you roll 608 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,960 for the move it actually becomes, you have to do one of 609 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,600 these moves and therefore your narrative is based on them. 610 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,720 It's like the antithesis of what it actually tried to be. 611 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,160 And that's why I don't like moves. 612 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:46,960 Uh, huh. Uh, huh. 613 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,960 I'm. I'm here with you. 614 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,040 Oh, absolutely. I I couldn't agree more. 615 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,880 OK, cool. I couldn't. 616 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,120 There's I have no ability to agree more than I do. 617 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,880 Yeah, I also heat tags when we get to that later, but we're 618 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,280 still on the basics. But that was quick. 619 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,320 So that's moves. Then we have stats. 620 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,280 There's six stats, and this stats section is a much better 621 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,360 explanation of the stats than when we get to the stats section 622 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,920 later. Then we get to the Yeah, it is, 623 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,800 yeah, yeah. So the redundancies throughout 624 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,080 is crazy. So the stats are cool, which 625 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,360 means cool under fire, rational, clear thinking, and you roll. 626 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,440 Plus, cool to do something under fire. 627 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,240 I love. I love that that explanation is 628 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,840 right there. This is what I'm talking about. 629 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,480 We needed more of this very clear, concise language on how 630 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,160 to do the things that you're supposed to be doing right. 631 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,640 There's hard, which means hard hearted, violent, aggressive, 632 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,880 strong, willed, mean. And then you roll. 633 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,160 Plus hard to go aggro on someone and the go aggro on someone is 634 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,200 bolded because that is a move you do later. 635 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,120 Hot means fucking hot. Attractive, subtle, gracious, 636 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,880 sexy, beautiful. You roll hot to seduce or 637 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,520 manipulate someone. Sharp, meaning sharp, witted, 638 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120 clever, smart, et cetera. You roll plus sharp to read a 639 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,640 person or read a situation. Everything I'm saying at the 640 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,760 end, you roll to do something. Those things are move weird, 641 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,120 meaning a weirdo, psychic genius, uncanny. 642 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,120 All that stuff. Roll plus weird to open your 643 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,800 brain to the world. Psychic maelstrom and history 644 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,120 meaning history. It's HX like prescription 645 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,760 diagnosis, particularly shared history. 646 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,920 It's the history with other characters. 647 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,600 I do really enjoy that mechanic and we'll get to history later. 648 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,200 I thought that one was interesting. 649 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,840 And we'll get to it. When you're doing character 650 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,000 creation, like the setup for it, how it's done. 651 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,440 But I'm like, OK, that's cool. Yeah, that's very narrative. 652 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,320 You know, that's a good leader. I really like that. 653 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,400 And it is how you advance is your history with with other 654 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,120 people and things like that. So because you don't really 655 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,280 advantage, just improve a little bit or do things a little bit 656 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:41,880 differently so that those are the the, the, the stats and the 657 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,880 core kind of core moves to go with them. 658 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,440 The maximum for any status plus three, the minimum is -3. 659 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,200 Most will be in a -, 1 to +2. And there's a notation here that 660 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,680 says cool -2 means that your cool is -2. 661 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,760 Weird equals 0 means that you're weird is 0. 662 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,240 There's a lot of fucking algebra on this where I'm like there's 663 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,400 too many letters that you didn't need. 664 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,400 You could just say it, it's fine. 665 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,440 History plus one. That means that your history 666 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,840 with someone is plus one. Some rules call for you to 667 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,719 modify your stats, in which case the modifier appears before the 668 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,480 stat name. So plus one Cool means you add 1 669 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,960 to your cool -2. Weird means you subtract 2 from 670 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,199 your weird. So there's a difference based on 671 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,639 like, whether you're just modifying the specific role 672 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,880 you're doing versus modify, or what your actual stats look 673 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,520 like. That's not that complicated. 674 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,840 It's fine. Each chat, each player 675 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,400 highlights two of her character stats, one chosen by another 676 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,560 player, 1 chosen by you. This is another part that that 677 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,960 that we'll get to the MC1 chosen by you, the MC. 678 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,520 The character's development over time depends on her highlighted 679 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,040 stats. For details, see the Character 680 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,560 creation chapter page 70, which is hyperlinked, and the 681 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,920 improvement chapter page 258. Why is it listed three times? 682 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,880 And Y is one of the best explanations for how to actually 683 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,120 do that in this section right here. 684 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,360 Because I when I got to highlighting stats later, I had 685 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,280 to be like, wait, why do we highlight stats again and 686 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,200 literally like do like a like a like a control F to like find 687 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,880 highlights. So I could find this and it's 688 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,280 all the way up here. Yeah, so gear, another crap. 689 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,800 You have gear. It has tags. 690 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,320 I don't like tags. We'll get to tags later. 691 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,440 Harm and healing. Things get harmed and things 692 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:22,880 heal. And there are clocks, and this 693 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,840 is the worst way I like clocks. It actually uses like the 694 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,680 numbers on a clock, which makes no sense to me. 695 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,960 But you can harm stuff and you can heal stuff. 696 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,840 There's exactly where I needed some art, like clock example 697 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,800 art, you know? Yeah, well, especially early on 698 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,480 if you're hitting the basics to to do a little bit. 699 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,680 But there's also times where they give you the little art 700 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,000 that they do multiple times or in the wrong section. 701 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Character improvement. You mark experience mostly based 702 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,480 on history or through moves in your history with other people 703 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,160 affects your experience bubbles. And when you get enough 704 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,960 experience bubble, you can improve your character, which 705 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,920 lets you, you know, adjust things on your playbook. 706 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,240 That's character improvement, timeline of play. 707 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,080 There's the play pre play prep, which is you getting our shit 708 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,480 together. There's the first session which 709 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,440 is really just character creation and their subsequent 710 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,200 sessions. I know that the whole the the 711 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,080 thing about like it takes 6 sessions to get going. 712 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,280 I don't think so. I think it really takes. 713 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,560 I know that they wrote that, but like from from reading this it 714 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,880 sounds like it really takes maybe like 3. 715 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,920 The first one being character creation, the second one being 716 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,560 there's a session you're going to talk about later where 717 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,400 basically you just spend a whole session just kind of like 718 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,240 walking around interacting, getting to know people so you 719 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:36,760 can like build narrative in the world. 720 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,400 And then the third session where you really kind of get going. 721 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,360 So I would say 3 sections, but that doesn't feel like too much 722 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,400 because. One that feels fine, That feels 723 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,440 like normal, you know? Yeah, there's a whole page of, 724 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,760 like, why to play. I do. 725 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,000 I do like to play was the interesting section. 726 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,320 You know, just to have, you know, Yeah, so #1, because the 727 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,080 characters are fucking hot. That's cool. 728 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,880 A lot of this game is just like, it's the apocalypse and it's 729 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,120 kind of a movie. So everyone's buff and hot and 730 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,040 sometimes they fuck and they kill shit and I'm like, cool, 731 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,280 I'm down, I'm down. Like, let's see how it goes. 732 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,600 That's a thing, yeah, because hot as they are, the characters 733 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,560 are best and hottest when you put them together. 734 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,840 Rivals, lovers, all that stuff. 3. 735 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,280 Because the characters are together against a horrific 736 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,640 world. They're carving up their little 737 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,360 space of hope 4. Because they're together, sure, 738 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,200 but they're desperate and they're under a lot of pressure. 739 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,200 5 because there's something really wrong with the world, and 740 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,240 I don't know what it is. The world wasn't always like 741 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,720 this, blasted and brutal. There wasn't always a psychic 742 00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:34,760 maelstrom. So how do you figure out what to 743 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,120 do? That doesn't really explain to 744 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,800 me like why I want to play the game that explained to me like, 745 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,720 but not it does, but in a way that I I expected to just be 746 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,520 like why would you play this game versus other games? 747 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,840 But this is more of just like what are you doing when you play 748 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,760 the game? Like, right. 749 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,360 You know you're being hot and you're being put into shitty 750 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,840 situations and you're seeing if you can find hope in it, you 751 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,880 know? And that's cool. 752 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,760 I dig it. Like that's I like that that's 753 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,640 in the basic section and that's in the basic section. 754 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,000 So cool rundown of the rules. But it's weird because there are 755 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,160 parts of the quote UN quote basic section that explain rules 756 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,400 better than the sections explaining those rules. 757 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,160 And we're gonna get to the sections. 758 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,640 And I'm gonna be like, this is worse, actually. 759 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,480 Yeah. Another piece of art here. 760 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,880 It's a a buff chick with like, a a short haircut walking out of a 761 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,880 a car holding a machine gun. Dope vibey. 762 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,040 I I you know, I dig it. This is the playbooks. 763 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,080 Are we? Hey, we're hitting this now, 764 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,400 right? I don't have any idea. 765 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,040 Maybe, Yeah. OK. 766 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,520 I mean, they're not really like. They're just like a short blurb 767 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,240 on each one. It's oh, and then and then it's 768 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:46,600 kind of has all of them. Yeah. 769 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:52,000 So why don't we do like just like maybe skip the the 770 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,400 narrative or the type of part and just go with like the 771 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,960 italics maybe on each one. So we people explain like the 772 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,000 the, the, what, what, the class, what the archetypes actually 773 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,160 are. Also an interesting thing here 774 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,880 is that that short blurb. On each one is actually also on 775 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,320 the the the like playbook like a stat page. 776 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,520 It's really funny. It's like written here and then 777 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,640 like, so you're looking at the Angel right now, Which what page 778 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:24,680 is it on 16? It's also on page 23, so so if 779 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,840 you're going to have playbooks in this part, I think this is 780 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,040 the part you have and you take the actual character sheet 781 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,760 playbook and put it in the back. And put it in the back. 782 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,480 Totally. That makes a lot of sense to me. 783 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,680 Yeah, you want focus on on one, well, let's let's let's focus on 784 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,320 one for like actually reading through the character sheet. 785 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,800 But do you want to just do like a, the the quick maybe like 786 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,600 mechanical blurb at the end of each one. 787 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,720 So we just know all of the all of the archetypes, yeah. 788 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,360 Or even just say like angels are medics, battle waves are this. 789 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,000 You know what I mean like. Angels are medics. 790 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:04,280 Yep, there we go. Yeah, Battle Babe is like a like 791 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,920 a high social acumen warrior. You know, fighter. 792 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,360 You're a sexy, sexy warrior. There you go. 793 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,240 I don't know what a brainer is. Was a brainer spooky weirdos? 794 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:25,240 Yeah, just weird. Powerful but strange. 795 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:37,360 The Chopper, a leads biker gang, which fairly interesting. 796 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,040 They're powerful, but also their power is power is external in 797 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,680 their gang, which is a kind of a cool rule thing that we'll get 798 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,840 to. I always skimmed that one. 799 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,600 I was like, oh, OK. I kind of like the gang. 800 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,400 Interesting. The ones that have like 801 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,880 ingrained power, like the chopper and the hard holder, 802 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,080 that like come with a gang or come with a hold or something 803 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,120 like that. It's interesting that. 804 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,080 You can pick a character that comes with so much as like a 805 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,480 base character because clearly there's a a balance changes, you 806 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,800 know what I mean? It's interesting, yeah. 807 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,120 And I've played another PBTA called I referred to earlier, 808 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,880 called Broken Wealth that has very much the same thing. 809 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,720 It's like each of the character played books is like its own 810 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,560 like epic thing, and they're a little unbalanced. 811 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,040 And I kind of feel like this one's like a little imbalance as 812 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,360 well. Fuck. 813 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,720 Fuck balance. I mean, for a game that's going 814 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:29,920 to be narrative, I take no issue with that. 815 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,480 Because, yeah, it's supposed to be narrative, right? 816 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,960 Like the character I want to play maybe isn't this powerful 817 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,200 gang leader, maybe I want to play the next one, the driver 818 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,480 that's like a high mobility driver, you know, And vehicles 819 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,960 are like a thing here. Very much so, yeah. 820 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,560 Yeah. Got one of my favorite parts Is 821 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,800 way at the end where it talks about, hey, so someone told me 822 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,000 that 50 years after the world ends, gasoline evaporates. 823 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,360 Oops, I don't care. Like, pretend it's like a 824 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,000 diesel. I'm just like, that is the best 825 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,480 way to approach that to just be like, I hope it's a game? 826 00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:07,920 Yeah, I don't give a shit. Yeah, I don't see that 827 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,720 realistic. So yeah, good to know about that 828 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:17,760 50 year life on gasoline though. Yeah, so driver drives high, 829 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,600 mobility comes with the vehicle gun lugger. 830 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,440 Can you guess what the gun lugger does, Ryan? 831 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,160 They probably lug guns is my question. 832 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,800 I'll say that I do appreciate the fact that you can read the 833 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,800 name of the class and be like I know what that class does. 834 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,920 Yeah, yeah. Especially for apocalyptic. 835 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,920 Yeah, Game. After the gun lugger, we have 836 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,680 the hard holder. Heart holders are landlords, 837 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,520 warlords are governors. They have little strongholds. 838 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:52,080 They got a little, They got land. 839 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:59,760 And the Hocus is a weird, culty person that has more of the IT 840 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,880 has more of the peripheral moves than anybody else. 841 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,160 They're pretty much all for the Hocus. 842 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,040 So yeah, if you want to be a weird supernatural person, cult 843 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,520 leader, the Hocus for you and of. 844 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,000 Course there would be in the apocalypse. 845 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:20,760 I mean, yeah, absolutely. The Is it the Maestro D? 846 00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:25,080 Bro it broke my brain. I'm like I I googled maestro DI 847 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,240 can find nothing called maestro D and what kept popping them. 848 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,920 It's a maidor DA Maidor D, yeah. Yeah, I don't understand why 849 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,400 it's called a maestro. DI really don't understand. 850 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,160 Is it supposed to be like a like a play on like you're a maestros 851 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,920 and you make things like like you you? 852 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,000 Bring a lot of people together to do whatever. 853 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,040 But I just kept reading as Major D cuz I was like, that's what 854 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,880 makes sense of major D is called an establishment. 855 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,520 Yeah, you pretty much run an establishment. 856 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,080 And I think what I do see here is it's very much like the hard 857 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,520 holder, except if you want it to be sexier with fewer 858 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,920 obligations, which okay. Cool. 859 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,960 I love that. Basically like you run like a 860 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,440 like a drug den or a club or a strip or a strip joint or 861 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,440 whatever. But like the hard holder is like 862 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,320 basically a Fort. So you have to deal with all the 863 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,200 Fort shit. But the major D, it's like a 864 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,680 club. Like if you really just want to 865 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,920 grab the money and run like who gives a shit? 866 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,200 Like that's that's that's your thing. 867 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,680 I really dig that. There's like the hard holder for 868 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,000 someone who wants to like because if you do, the hard 869 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,120 holder. You're basically like this is 870 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,240 not a mobile game. Your whole thing is built around 871 00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:29,840 the Fort, but with the with the mater D you could like start it 872 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,800 like a strip club or whatever and maybe able to come back to 873 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,880 it, but it doesn't feel like you're tied to it nearly as 874 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,960 much. So I I really like that. 875 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,760 I think it's neat. Yeah, you too. 876 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,080 And then the is the savvy head the last one? 877 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,000 No, it's not. There's the Skinner upside. 878 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:49,280 Savvy head is your like, support tech person, powerful reality 879 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,680 bending. Yeah, same school. 880 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,920 And then the Skinner Skinners are pure hot. 881 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,120 This is, this is your face. You know, your manipulative face 882 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,480 character. Yeah, yeah. 883 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,040 And then we have a list of the basic moves right here. 884 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,800 For like the for like the first of like 8 times. 885 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,920 Yeah, a very great concise list. I actually didn't count the 886 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,600 moves. Well, I mean, they're the basic 887 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,640 moves where there's 1000 more, yeah. 888 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:30,160 So 1010 basic moves and that's including session And and they 889 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,400 all are kind of like self-explanatory. 890 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,680 But we're going to explain them anyway here in a little bit, 891 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,040 yeah. And then we have the actual, 892 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:44,120 like mechanical playbooks. In a place that I done on page 893 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,280 22 for like 50 pages it's so weird put these in the back 894 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,160 like. This book is just such. 895 00:45:53,160 --> 00:46:00,160 It's so weirdly put together in like in a short thing like a 896 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,960 Zine or whatever. When things are kind of like out 897 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,720 of order, it's not a big deal because you're only reading like 898 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:05,400 30 pages. But when you're reading 300 899 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,200 pages, having things out of order makes it so hard to parse 900 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,880 what's important and what's not, and that having things not 901 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,760 written in the way that, like the the game flows. 902 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,880 Like it should be the basics, the all the moves, harm and 903 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,320 healing gear and crap. Like the things that actually 904 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,920 really affect play. And then if you want to do like 905 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,080 the MC section we'll get to a little bit like put that like 906 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,240 start with the second-half the game. 907 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:32,720 That's more about running the game. 908 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:34,280 You know what I mean? Like, it's just but it's so 909 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,720 interspersed, so again, chopped up and so many times there's a 910 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,400 just randomly a core move is like tucked into a subsection of 911 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,360 a subsection. It's like, yeah, anyway. 912 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,760 Did you want to run through one of these now or maybe like later 913 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,520 once you read more about, like, what's going on? 914 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,800 Let's run through the battle babe real quick, because I feel 915 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,120 like that was the one we said that we were going to focus on. 916 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,640 Yeah, So the character sheet, the playbook, right, it starts 917 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,120 with all of them. The first page I think is 918 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:14,160 exactly the same for all. It's your basics like your name, 919 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,400 your look, your stats, your history. 920 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,480 And then it has your character. Special S battle babe special. 921 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,760 I'm right under the history pardon me section if you did 922 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,640 another character have sex nullify the other characters sex 923 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,280 move. Whatever it is just does not 924 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,280 happen. That's right there. 925 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,560 Sex moves. Your special move is a sex move. 926 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,080 Yeah, Yeah. And then there's your harm clock 927 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,240 bottom left and then the improvement section. 928 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:50,120 And that's the first page, The second page I. 929 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:56,120 Will say real quick, I do like on this on the stat section 930 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,600 there's it lists the moves that are associated with that stat 931 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,120 next to the stat. So that does make it a little 932 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,800 bit easier when you actually have the playbook in front of 933 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,640 you. I agree to to kind of associate 934 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,240 that and the little sections to like highlight and whatnot, 935 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,000 yeah, So the second of is it 4 pages, the second of the four 936 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,200 page playbook, It really is like a playbook like, you know, it 937 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,080 tells. You not a play sheet playbook 938 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,000 for sure. It tells you in the first 939 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,720 session part, which we'll get to to have printouts for these. 940 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,960 And I'm like Oh yeah, you most definitely need printouts for 941 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,840 each of these because it's unplayable without that. 942 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,880 Yeah, so the Babble Babe has the blurb. 943 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,000 You read it if you if you want to, but also get the book. 944 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,000 And it has Battle Babe moves, which are the like specific 945 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,800 Battle Babe moves. I don't want to read them. 946 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,440 It's dangerous and sexy. Ice cold, merciless visions of 947 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,760 death, perfect instincts and impossible reflexes. 948 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,600 Yeah, you just, I think you picked like maybe 2IN character 949 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,720 creation. We'll get to that in character 950 00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:02,960 creation, yeah, I think it's something like that. 951 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:08,640 We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll come back maybe and then custom 952 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:13,720 weapons, firearms and hand weapons a little. 953 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,960 Just like a little place to write down your custom weapons, 954 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,160 gear and barter section and then a barter section that explains 955 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,600 how barter works, which we'll also look at later on in the 956 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,520 book. Actually, super OK with this 957 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,320 being here in the Playbook too. And barter is like an optional 958 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,280 thing. If you have a world that doesn't 959 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,760 make sense for bartering, there is no bartering. 960 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,760 But I do like that it's there. Oh man. 961 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,800 On the last page of the Playbook, you have the Creating 962 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:46,040 a Battle babe, which arguably maybe not the last page of the 963 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:53,720 Playbook, but what do I know? Yeah, name stats, gear, look, 964 00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:58,560 moves, history. Yeah, it's here. 965 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,560 Yeah, I yeah. Well, actually putting it 966 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,920 together should be like the first or second page. 967 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:10,640 I agree so. Yeah, so I don't know, it's it's 968 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,600 just again, it's just weird how this whole thing is put 969 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,320 together. But yeah, so it's a four page 970 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,560 character sheet, which is fine because a lot of it is just 971 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,400 explaining right, which I think is really good to have in front 972 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,480 of you. But honestly, I think it's a 973 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,600 strength, that part. But here's The thing is like, if 974 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,360 you're going to have this much information here, you know what? 975 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,200 I would. I would chop off this entire 976 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,480 barter section and you know what I would have right here? 977 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,840 The section up at the top where it talks about stats and then 978 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,880 gives you what the stat is and what move you roll for that stat 979 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,960 and what it normally is would fit. 980 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,040 Would literally drop right into this exact amount of space, and 981 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,240 I would much rather have right in front of me a quick reference 982 00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:53,120 to. Like the moves that I need to do 983 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,240 then something like water, which is an optional rule. 984 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,400 Yeah, I mean they're they do have this, the moves next to the 985 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,000 stats already, right? Yeah, but a little bit of an 986 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,320 explain. I mean, if you're going to use 987 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,680 this space for something, I would rather have it be for that 988 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,240 to give me, again, another little low break. 989 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:10,840 Yeah, I could probably think of another. 990 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,240 There's several other things that you can do with that space. 991 00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:14,880 I agree. Yeah. 992 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,000 So that's the playbook. I do think the fact that it has 993 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,120 explanations for stuff is actually the strongest part of 994 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,040 the playbook. Yep, I think it's placement in 995 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,600 this book is the weakest part. Why? 996 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,560 Why are they? Why are they? 997 00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:29,320 Why are they? Why are they 50 pages of 998 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,480 playbooks? Like 20 pages in? 999 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,520 Put them at the back of the book. 1000 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:32,400 Put them in the back of the book. 1001 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:34,680 Like, I get it in the context of, like, we're talking about 1002 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,400 character creation, but like, you already have blurbs for what 1003 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,440 they are. This is more of a resource 1004 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,560 management thing than it is like a necessary thing to read right 1005 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:49,360 now. So stick it in the back, yeah. 1006 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,760 So, yeah, moving forward. I'm I'm trying to. 1007 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,240 I know I'm scrolling down too. I'm like, Jesus, what page am I 1008 00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:58,520 on? Yeah, bookmarks. 1009 00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,840 Here we go. Character creation. 1010 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,600 There we go. Page 70 Character creation. 1011 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,880 Yeah. So a big thing that it's going 1012 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,520 to say here that it also says in in the first session, is that 1013 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,160 you want to print out the players reference sheets and put 1014 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,440 them on a table where everyone can reach them, pass them around 1015 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:26,800 to do that should help. Yeah, print out your play 1016 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,000 sheets, threat mat, threat sheets, all that stuff. 1017 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,280 Oh yeah. One thing that I do like about 1018 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,360 this is that they're they're kind of like epic characters. 1019 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,760 Like there's only one of each, you know like everyone picks 1 1020 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,360 character and I really like that. 1021 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,200 I I like that there's a little bit of spread each characters 1022 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,680 they're they're the one that thing, you know. 1023 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,440 I do think it's a strength of this narratively. 1024 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,840 Absolutely. The part where it's like there's 1025 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,800 other people that might be healers and someone might call 1026 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,040 them Angel, but. You're the Angel. 1027 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,760 They're not. You're the Angel, you know? 1028 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,400 And I like that. And I've seen that adapted in a 1029 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,160 lot of PBT stuff, but I'm like, oh, that's cool. 1030 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,800 You're like, you're the sorcerer, you know, like 1031 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,280 everyone else maybe uses magic, but you're the magic guy. 1032 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,720 Yeah, I do dig that. It's definitely. 1033 00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:25,080 It definitely feeds in like the the cinematic. 1034 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:32,000 You know, kind of totally the strong point of this say this 1035 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,760 first and often I can't even remember what this part says. 1036 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,520 Honestly to the players. Your job is to play the 1037 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,040 characters as though they're real people in whatever 1038 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,680 circumstances. They find themselves cool, 1039 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,920 competent, dangerous, larger than life, but real. 1040 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,680 Yeah, And then the job is the MC is to. 1041 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,520 Be the world. Yeah, yeah. 1042 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,760 The apocalypse. It happened 50 years ago. 1043 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,160 No one really knows there's a Psychic Maelstrom. 1044 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,120 I'm Stats. You have y'all heard about stats 1045 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,800 yet? But second time, actually I 1046 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,840 think this is the third time because we skimmed through at 1047 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,440 the end of the playbook section, it actually has stats again and 1048 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:23,320 basic moves on page like 66 or something like that. 1049 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,760 Yeah, stats are here. One of the things that does add 1050 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,080 here is that like they usually they'll cap out at -3 or +3, you 1051 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:37,080 don't go higher or lower than that, and that they can 1052 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,520 occasionally get an extra point. I guess just circumstantially, 1053 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:52,320 yeah, basic move introducing basic moves, which is the second 1054 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,120 or third time it's referred to. But this is not the basic move 1055 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,200 section, because that's coming. And we can do we we can get it 1056 00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:01,400 in the basic move section, Well, we'll get there. 1057 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,280 There are special moves, there's character moves which are like 1058 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:13,560 character specific vehicles and prosthetics. 1059 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:20,440 When you're creating vehicle, it basically gives you a list of 1060 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,880 frames to pick which will affect the stats. 1061 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,680 I pay a list of strengths which are a bunch of tags, a list of 1062 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,120 looks which are a bunch of tags, a list of weaknesses which are a 1063 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,680 bunch of tags, and then battle options which are according on 1064 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,760 your frame. You basically get like some 1065 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,000 pluses for whatever framing pick. 1066 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:43,720 Like if you pick a compact vehicle it gets 2 battle options 1067 00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:46,280 and you pick two of these. You can't just pick the same one 1068 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,280 twice until I blow up. So you can be like yeah, I have 1069 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,320 a fucking fast as fuck buggy bro. 1070 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,800 I got +2 speed, yeah, and then specialize. 1071 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,520 It talks about vehicles on prosthetics here, but then when 1072 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,960 we get to gears and crap, we once again talk about vehicles 1073 00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:02,720 on prosthetics, but explain in a different way with some of the 1074 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:04,480 stuff you need and some of the stuff that you don't need. 1075 00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:10,440 Perfect. RAM Yeah, there's specialized 1076 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,360 vehicles, cuz one of the character classes is like the My 1077 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,440 other car is a tank, which gives you special options. 1078 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,200 Then there's creating prosthetics, which is the same 1079 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,320 as as the vehicle. Essentially it's a bunch. 1080 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,880 It's a bunch of tags, yeah. And then setting expectations, 1081 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,880 which is just talking to your character, your player 1082 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,200 characters, your PCs, and setting expectations, which is. 1083 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,520 Great. It's like you should do that. 1084 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,080 This is the part that, like, I think now would just be like, 1085 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,600 you safety tools, you know? Yeah. 1086 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,760 Have sex. Sex moves. 1087 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,760 Yeah, there's that. And then introduction. 1088 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,240 I'm going to go around and introduce your character thing 1089 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,240 and. I will say to to wind back just 1090 00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:57,320 a little bit to the last one, like this is exactly what I'm 1091 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,520 talking about. There's like 10 bullet points, 1092 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,240 but like some of them are like talking about rules. 1093 00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:05,680 And then the very next one is literally like like randomly, 1094 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,320 like asking a question if it's a player and randomly like talking 1095 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,360 as if you're the MC. It's just like, mm hmm mm hmm. 1096 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,080 Hey see where it says this or whatever It literally says this 1097 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,600 is what the the the book actually says. 1098 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,840 Hey see where it says you have oddments where 3 barter or 1099 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,200 whatever. Is there some medium exchange 1100 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,360 you all like It's literally being like you should talk this 1101 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,200 way but then it also talks that way back to you. 1102 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:32,200 It's just such a weirdly, I just, hey, I don't know, you 1103 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,600 like that, buddy. Talk to me like a book. 1104 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,480 Yeah. And then there's, you know, the 1105 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,920 introduction, which is going around circle and introducing 1106 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:45,640 your characters. And there's a little bit more 1107 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,000 introduction than some games that I would run because the 1108 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:54,800 history is a stat here. And that's actually, I think the 1109 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,880 next section is is history, yeah. 1110 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,920 And so your player character basically goes around in the 1111 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,840 circle and decides, is it whether or not that character, 1112 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,640 they trust them or don't trust them, and they give themselves a 1113 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:16,600 bonus or a negative to their history, which I think is really 1114 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:17,920 interesting. It's cool to go around be like, 1115 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,480 huh, that's an interesting character. 1116 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:20,880 My character wouldn't trust that guy. 1117 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:21,840 Very. Much, you know? 1118 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,320 Yeah. Well, it's not even just on 1119 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,000 trust too. It's a it's also on like how 1120 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,120 well you know the people just in general. 1121 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,040 So it's like I we we've been in a gang forever. 1122 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,320 Let's add a + 1. Or like, I just met you and I 1123 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,960 don't like you, so we're going to do a -? 1124 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,480 1, you know? Yeah, very cool. 1125 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,200 You leverage that later on, which we'll get to when we ever 1126 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,680 get whenever we get to moves. Yeah, crazy. 1127 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,400 Oh yeah, and here's highlighting stats. 1128 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,920 I don't know how I missed this part because I actually did not 1129 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,480 read this highlighting stats section. 1130 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,080 Yeah, this is like the third or fourth. 1131 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,240 This is one of the three or four instances that we'll talk about 1132 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,120 highlighting stats, but in a completely different way than 1133 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,040 two of the other ones. Yeah, you go around the table 1134 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,800 one last time. Each player finds the character 1135 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,080 her character knows best or the highest history on their own 1136 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:20,800 sheet, and then that character says which stat is most 1137 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,440 interesting to her and highlights. 1138 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,600 Well, that's so that's important through through the entire thing 1139 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,600 with the highlighting, the stats, like as you build your 1140 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,400 histories with people like at the beginning of each section, 1141 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,120 like if I know history, if I have most history with you, you 1142 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:39,360 pick a stat for me to highlight. And then the MC also takes 1143 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,160 another one. Everyone gets two every session, 1144 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:47,800 and then you mark experience whenever you roll the stat that 1145 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,320 was highlighted. So that's literally how you 1146 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,240 advance or improve in the entire game is by. 1147 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,080 Rolling for the stats that other people highlighted. 1148 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,360 So if I want to be like, well, I feel like I want you to be hard 1149 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,880 today like I. Check hard for you, right? 1150 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,800 But if it's like, well, I feel like you want to be cool and 1151 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,960 then MC could also be like, well, I think we're going to be 1152 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,080 doing a lot of cool stuff today and I want you to improve so all 1153 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,520 mark cool for you. It's really interesting. 1154 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,920 Because even in the example of Polly we'll talk about later, it 1155 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,840 literally says, hey, it says that you can literally ask like, 1156 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,360 hey, can you highlight this stat for me? 1157 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,800 And I'm like, if you're getting to point where you're asking, 1158 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,440 I'm gonna highlight the stat, just pick your own fucking stats 1159 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,080 to highlight. Yeah. 1160 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,240 But it also then says the Mt goes, Nah, I'll highlight this 1161 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,600 one instead. And it's just like, then what 1162 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:38,360 are we doing? What are we fucking doing? 1163 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,400 So. The next section is the Master 1164 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,560 of Ceremonies, which again, I don't understand why this is 1165 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,720 here. I don't understand why this is 1166 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,440 like the third or fourth thing. This is literally like a whole 1167 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,520 chapter on like directly written for the MC, the Master of 1168 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,080 Ceremonies, which is basically your GM. 1169 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,600 I think my issue is that or merely after this we have the 1170 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,080 first session section which should in fact be in this 1171 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,280 section like with the like that's. 1172 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,160 What I'm saying like the book really needs to be parsed into. 1173 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,120 Like a Master of Ceremony section, which is like half of 1174 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,240 it because you're literally talking specifically to the 1175 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,440 Master of Ceremonies, the MC and the player section. 1176 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:17,960 But why is the entire like MC section in the middle of what 1177 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,640 the players need, both before and after it? 1178 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:25,040 The sections are just poorly, poorly, poorly put together. 1179 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,560 Again, when a book is shorter, it doesn't matter as much 1180 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,880 because it's not as hard to get to those things. 1181 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,520 But it's 300 pages. It really matters because you 1182 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,640 have to get through all those pages to get to the other stuff. 1183 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,880 So the Master of Ceremony is Quick Breeze through this MC 1184 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,800 that is Apocalypse World's GM. There's a million ways to GM 1185 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,600 Apocalypse Rules calls for one way in particular. 1186 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,400 This chapter is it. Follow these as rules. 1187 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:48,960 The whole rest of the game is built on this. 1188 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,280 So it says you have to read this section and play it exactly like 1189 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,600 this, which is so weird to me. As far as, like, TTRPGS go to be 1190 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,000 like this is how it has to be. So your agenda. 1191 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,160 Make Apocalypse World seem real, make the player's characters 1192 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,400 live. It's not boring and play to find 1193 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,400 out what happens. And then there's so much 1194 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,560 talking, so much talking in such an extraordinarily 1195 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,600 conversational way. It's just it makes it, it makes 1196 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,960 it difficult to not again bounce off of this. 1197 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,000 Don't pre plan a storyline. It says don't do any of that. 1198 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,720 But then there's so much prep that it talks about doing and 1199 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,120 like so much other things to do. So it's it's weird kind of like 1200 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,680 don't do this but like kind of do it a little bit. 1201 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,920 You know play to find out what happens. 1202 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,080 Always say these things what the principals demand. 1203 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,360 What the rules demand, what your prep demands, and what honesty 1204 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,200 demands. This is a section that's I think 1205 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,040 put together a little bit better than other sections, even though 1206 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,680 I think there's too much talking, because at the very 1207 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,320 least the important things are bolted at the top of the 1208 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,840 sections. That is nice. 1209 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,640 So that is nice. So Apocalypse Worlds divides a 1210 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,960 conversation up in a strict and pretty traditional way. 1211 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,440 Player's job is to say what the characters say 1st, and 1212 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,280 exclusively to say what the characters think, feel and 1213 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,680 remember secondly. Answer questions. 1214 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,760 Your job as MC is to say everything else. 1215 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,120 Everything about the world, blah blah blah. 1216 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,400 You're the MC. Always be scrupulous, generous 1217 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:07,280 with the truth. Play the game. 1218 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,200 Don't hide shit from people. Give people. 1219 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,600 Be a fan of the players. Do all of that. 1220 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,600 That's what it basically says. And then it has the principles. 1221 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:14,840 There's a lot of principles here. 1222 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,520 Barf 4th Apocalyptica. OK, address yourself to the 1223 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,720 characters, not the players. I do like some of these 1224 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:23,800 principles. I think they're really good. 1225 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,600 Make your move, but misdirect. Make your move, but never speak 1226 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,000 its name. Look through crosshairs. 1227 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,400 Name everyone. Make everyone human. 1228 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,840 Ask provocative questions and build on the answers. 1229 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,200 Respond with fuckery and intermittent rewards. 1230 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,720 Be a fan of the players. Characters. 1231 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:42,480 Think off screen too sometimes. Disclaim decision making So. 1232 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,440 Barf 4th Apocalyptica just means be very narrative with 1233 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,160 everything that you're doing. Like make them make the world 1234 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,800 feel real. Dress yourself to the 1235 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,480 characters, not the players. I really like this if you want 1236 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:59,760 people to engage more with the game narratively. 1237 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,320 Address their player. Don't say Hey Hunter, what are 1238 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,640 you doing? Say hey Billy Bo, you know, Mesh 1239 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,280 Nuggins. What are you doing? 1240 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,640 Which is the exactly name I pick. 1241 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,320 Yeah, which is why, which would encourage you to respond as your 1242 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:15,920 player, which will keep people in the narrative more. 1243 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:17,760 It's a great rule to have for all people, not role-playing 1244 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,000 games because you are role-playing. 1245 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,760 Sounds a good one. Make your move, but misdirect. 1246 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,480 I don't mind this one, it's fine. 1247 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:28,200 It basically says like do stuff, but then do other stuff so you 1248 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,360 have real world reasons for picking a move. 1249 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,520 But then the consequences and things that come from that move 1250 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:39,560 should always create more Make your move, but never speak its 1251 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:40,600 name. I like that too. 1252 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,200 So if there's a move called Announce future Vadnais, don't 1253 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,960 say, OK, so now I'm going to announce Future Vadnais. 1254 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:47,760 Of course you're not gonna do that. 1255 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,400 You are the narrative. So, like, you should really play 1256 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,520 as if you were the narrative. Don't let the mechanical side of 1257 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:57,480 the MC side. Like overtake the the game. 1258 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,320 Because again, the way you write a game, but also the way that 1259 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,840 you run a game will encourage people's style of play. 1260 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,160 So if all you're doing is saying move names, that'll encourage 1261 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,520 people to say move names back to you. 1262 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,960 You know, look through crosshairs. 1263 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,360 Basically it says start making, start with everything being a 1264 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,720 threat. Like always. 1265 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,520 You know, that might not always be what you eventually do, but 1266 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,240 look at it that way to start. It's Apocalypse World. 1267 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,800 Shit's fucked up. So think about burning it down, 1268 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,880 blowing it up, or bearing in a poison ground, and then if 1269 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,000 that's not the right thing to do, peel it back a little bit. 1270 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,320 Name everyone. Make everyone human. 1271 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,600 I do like this section. It's too fucking wordy. 1272 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,960 But it basically says, like, NPCS are a huge chunk of the 1273 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,560 world, so make those NPCS feel real. 1274 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,640 And it also says NPCS are just not that complicated. 1275 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,920 If you have some dude who's evil just because they feel like 1276 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,080 being evil, that's fine. Like, not every NPC in the world 1277 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,440 needs to have a a novel as a back story. 1278 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,920 Just make them be what they are because it's much easier to 1279 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,840 engage in a tabletop role-playing game when you're 1280 01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,040 really engaging with what amounts to like archetypes as 1281 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,480 opposed to like these very deep people for for important NPCS 1282 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,560 obviously have more depth to them, but not every single 1283 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:06,720 person in the world needs to have that. 1284 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,760 But every single person in the world should have something is 1285 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,800 what it really says. And it also talks about these 1286 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,840 PCNPCPC like triangles, whether it's a love triangle or not. 1287 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,240 There's a really good example here where it talks about the. 1288 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:25,000 At some point about A1 character wanting an NPC for one thing and 1289 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,280 another character wanting the NPC for a different thing, and 1290 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:32,920 the interactions that can become PC versus PC when they're both 1291 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,840 vying for the same thing but for for different reasons. 1292 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,280 So that's a that's a really cool thing to do is this triangles 1293 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,840 that's provocative questions build on the answers that's 1294 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,320 self-explanatory. It explains a lot that respond 1295 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:45,920 with fuckery and intermittent rewards. 1296 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,280 As in fuck around with not fuck over. 1297 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,800 This is when you barf, barf, apocalyptical on to someone's 1298 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,080 answer, but do it all the time. And then how about an example? 1299 01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:01,160 Again, there's just so much writing about this very casual 1300 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,960 over explainee. Like, here's just examples 1301 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,960 throughout, and I like that there's examples throughout, but 1302 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,880 like, they're so scattered that it makes it so unconcise and 1303 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,360 difficult to parse every time. When it's like I just. 1304 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,680 I just want to know what the rule says. 1305 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,000 And you have to read through so much to get to it. 1306 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,000 Please just tell me the rule. Be a fan of the players. 1307 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,560 And this is the MC section, so this is the part that I don't. 1308 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,000 I don't mind over explaining the MC section. 1309 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,240 I'd like examples of play. This is the part where all of 1310 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,040 that should be. The problem is this is how the 1311 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,200 entire book is written. Like when you're explaining the 1312 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,080 rule, just please just start at the very least with giving me 1313 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,440 the rule, and then explain too much if you really feel the need 1314 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,200 to. But in the MC section. 1315 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,840 I'm fine with this, but that means so much of this book, just 1316 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,480 like in Blades of the Dark, should have been shunted off of 1317 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,720 the rule section and then just put into the MC section. 1318 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,000 You know, be a fame of the player's characters. 1319 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,000 Obviously you should always be that if your adversarial. 1320 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,520 This ain't the fucking 80s. Don't be a fucking douche. 1321 01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,880 Think off screen, too self-explanatory, sometimes 1322 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,200 disclaimed decision making. In order to find out what 1323 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,040 happens, you'll need to pass decision making off sometimes. 1324 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,720 Which I do, I do find interesting. 1325 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,160 One of the things I do like about PBTA, put it into the NPCS 1326 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,880 hands, put it into the players hands, Create a countdown, Make 1327 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,760 it a stakes question. So basically, you don't always 1328 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,960 have to make every decision, Make the decision something that 1329 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,960 needs to be interacted with, something that needs to be 1330 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,479 determined by the players or by other people. 1331 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,920 Basically, don't make major decisions if you don't have to. 1332 01:08:30,279 --> 01:08:33,200 Put it into other mechanics or people so that the decision 1333 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,560 always feels like it comes from the players. 1334 01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:39,640 And then another breakdown of all of the another list of all 1335 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,359 the principles. I I don't mind some 1336 01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:44,439 repetitiveness, but it literally starts the chapter and is a 1337 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,120 chapter with the same list. I think it's hard because 1338 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,560 there's already been so much repetition that even when even 1339 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,880 in the place where maybe the repetition has value, it's like 1340 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,080 you're kind of tired, You got tired of it already. 1341 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:56,399 Like, oh. So tired of it? 1342 01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:59,080 Come on, man. Then there's a whole list of GM 1343 01:08:59,080 --> 01:08:59,920 move. Separate them. 1344 01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:01,359 Capture someone. Put someone in a spot. 1345 01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:03,439 Trade harm for harm. Announce off screen. 1346 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,520 Vadnais now it's future Vadnais. Inflict harm, Take away their 1347 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:07,359 stuff. Make them buy. 1348 01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:08,520 Activate their stuff. Downside. 1349 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,000 Tell them the possible consequences. 1350 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,359 Ask an opportunity with or without a cost. 1351 01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:14,120 Turn them, turn the move back on that. 1352 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,479 Make a throw a move after every move. 1353 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,520 What do you do? So much of this this is, This 1354 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,160 is. Often throughout I was like, 1355 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,399 that's not a move. I don't understand, but this is 1356 01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:24,520 the part where I'm like, these aren't moves. 1357 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,040 Some of these are just principles like I don't like. 1358 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,720 There was such an emphasis on like, the creation of this idea 1359 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,040 of moves that I feel like it's just too much. 1360 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,040 Like, I think, I think it started really good and it went 1361 01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:39,319 way too fucking far. Not everything is a move, but 1362 01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:43,560 they make everything a move in here and it makes it hard when 1363 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,000 you want to do something. That's not necessarily a move 1364 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,000 because you feel like there's so many moves. 1365 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,080 Everything is a move. So you have to figure out how to 1366 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,600 move. You know, we've, we've talked 1367 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,400 about this with other games, especially 5E. 1368 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,440 It's just like you when you create the box, they're going to 1369 01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:01,880 color within the lines, you know, like they're not really 1370 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,240 going to step outside of the lines because you've written it. 1371 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,360 In a way. They're like, even me playing a 1372 01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,080 PVTA. I'm like, oh, I'm looking for 1373 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:16,560 the moves to do, you know? It's and that's the thing and 1374 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,680 the GM, I guess it's a little bit you know, because the GM's 1375 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,240 play does need to be a little bit more structured because 1376 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,200 you're running the game. So I don't mind the moves as 1377 01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,760 much for that. But when and I like the moves 1378 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,400 for special stuff, I like moves for powers and things like that. 1379 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,000 But for basic shit. When you have 10 basic moves, 1380 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,640 you're like, well, everything must follow into a basic move 1381 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:40,600 then. So quick run through of of of 1382 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,320 the GM's basic moves, announce off screen Vadnais OK that. 1383 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,200 You're announcing no examples of your moves. 1384 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,600 Separate them. OK, you separate them, Capture 1385 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:53,840 someone, you capture them. But here's the other thing about 1386 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:59,080 the moves, right, is that in the players moves, there's always 1387 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,120 like a 7 to 9, like 10, plus like 6 or less. 1388 01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:06,440 But in the GM moves, quote UN quote moves, it's not. 1389 01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:09,920 It's really just like an option of something that you can do 1390 01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,720 narratively. So. 1391 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,680 I guess calling it a move because but that then also makes 1392 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,760 your brain go wait, But our moves like this or moves like 1393 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,880 that, and it's different. It's a GM and player, but it 1394 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,680 still makes it more difficult to parse trying to understand the 1395 01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,560 game. But this list of moves is a good 1396 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,160 thing for anyone to just write down for any game, because these 1397 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,200 are all just like, cool narrative points. 1398 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,760 That you can use in your game. Separate someone, capture 1399 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,200 someone, put someone in a spot, trade harm. 1400 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,800 There's a section later in the harm section where it talks 1401 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,760 about trading harm and how that works, inflicting harm. 1402 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,480 Also there's a section later talking about that take away 1403 01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:45,720 their stuff. That's a great. 1404 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,560 A lot of these are really just like choice mechanics, you know? 1405 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,800 A lot of these I've read from Source of Victory where it 1406 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,000 breaks down a lot of this stuff and like creating player choice, 1407 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,440 create narrative, do things that way. 1408 01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,440 So taking where their stuff is a great one. 1409 01:11:58,440 --> 01:11:59,680 Separating people is a great one. 1410 01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:02,240 Make them buy. So if they need something, 1411 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,720 encourage them that they have to go buy it. 1412 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,760 Then they have to go to a whole different area and encourage, 1413 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,480 you know, people's barter and stuff, activate their stuff. 1414 01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:10,520 Downside. So a cursed item, make it 1415 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,080 cursed. You know, make the curse pop in, 1416 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,240 tell them possible consequences. I do like that where it's like, 1417 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:16,480 Are you sure you really want to do that? 1418 01:12:16,480 --> 01:12:18,200 This is what's going to happen? And they're like, actually, no, 1419 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,240 I don't want to. Offer an opportunity with or 1420 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,160 without cost. Turn their move back on them or 1421 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,040 make a threat move and we'll get to that later. 1422 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,000 So those are all the things you can do as a gym. 1423 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,880 Obviously you can do more, but those are cool breakdowns. 1424 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,400 I again, I don't mind that section for moves in here. 1425 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,400 I dislike the basic moves, rules and prep. 1426 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:38,080 The game's rules give you things to say, Yep, they do. 1427 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,560 And then there's a whole section on a few more things to do, 1428 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:47,000 which is just a section that I just don't like. 1429 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,760 These aren't principles or moves. 1430 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,680 They're just good practice and I recommend them. 1431 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,600 Then don't put them like, then don't put them here or like, I 1432 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:56,680 just don't understand like in the MC section. 1433 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,080 Again, I don't mind this nearly as much. 1434 01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,960 It's basically just like, But again, you you get to parts in 1435 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,040 here where it's like, I don't think this is a section yet, but 1436 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,920 it literally goes in my home game. 1437 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,160 I usually do this then just say to do that. 1438 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,320 Like people can parse that, they if it doesn't work for them, 1439 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,280 that's fine, you know, you know it's whatever. 1440 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,320 And then and then and then and then we get to the first 1441 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:28,640 session. First session, you know it is. 1442 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,520 It's basically like a session zero, almost like it is a 1443 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,080 session 0. That's all it is. 1444 01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,800 Yeah, it's it's session zero. It's. 1445 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:39,320 Prep Well, well, yeah. Well, so the first session, 1446 01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:40,720 yeah. Is character creation. 1447 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,040 Yeah, yeah, it's character creation. 1448 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:49,720 And it's also time for you as the MC to prep based on what 1449 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,760 your player characters pick as their characters. 1450 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,240 You do the history thing. Did I take notes in the section 1451 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:58,440 look at me. I didn't. 1452 01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:04,760 It literally says it might it might just say it's a sub res 1453 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:11,320 for session and then it's blank. I, you know, I had a hard time 1454 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,040 reading this book because there's so much conversation. 1455 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,440 So I really did jump around like quite a bit. 1456 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:23,640 But yeah, there's this weird part like during the first 1457 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,960 section session, where it's like, you tell them like, OK, 1458 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,040 your setup's easy and you're done. 1459 01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,280 But now I got to sit here and set up a couple of you groaned. 1460 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,920 I do. This is exactly what I'm talking 1461 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:36,920 about. Like, why do we? 1462 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,680 What the fuck are you doing there? 1463 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,080 They're literally, they literally wrote into the book 1464 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,400 like an extremely casual conversation between MCS and 1465 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:50,520 players, but not in like a like, an example of how the first 1466 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,600 session might run. It's literally just written in. 1467 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,040 So like, the rules and things you're supposed to do are 1468 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,440 suddenly like interspersed with like random quotations of like 1469 01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:00,440 casual conversation and then like. 1470 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,920 I like, I just don't like exactly what you said. 1471 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,880 A couple of you groaned. I can hear you from way over 1472 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:06,680 here. Oh, great. 1473 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,200 Getting to know the characters. That's a recipe. 1474 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,720 It sounds like like it's it's like a it's like a it's like 1475 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,120 fucking Jack Kerouac, like fucking inner monologue. 1476 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:15,800 This isn't like Tropic of Capricorn. 1477 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:24,160 Like it feels like it feels like just almost like what's it 1478 01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,560 called when you just like blah you're trying to thought down on 1479 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:27,600 the paper. You know what I mean? 1480 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:29,120 Oh yeah. It's like a. 1481 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,440 It's a writing activity. It's. 1482 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,520 You know, people out there know what we're saying, but basically 1483 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,040 that's what it feels like. It feels like they were just 1484 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,560 like writing. And they're like, oh, sometimes 1485 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,320 they'll say this. Like, it's just so like there's 1486 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:46,680 a much technical writing is bad, but not enough is just as bad. 1487 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:48,600 Yeah. Yeah. 1488 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,480 It talks about like, you know, it's your job as the as the MC 1489 01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:56,240 to create this like fractured tilting landscape of 1490 01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:01,480 inequalities, PC and PCPC triangles, all that. 1491 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:09,160 All that good stuff. Yeah, after that's first. 1492 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:13,760 And always do everything 1st and always do everything it says to 1493 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,000 do in the Master of Starting My Way's chapter. 1494 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:20,160 Do all of it. Do this is crucial. 1495 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,240 Let's just follow the characters around for a day. 1496 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,040 In Apoxis World, that's automatically dangerous. 1497 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:31,120 It's automatically a bad day. I think I disagree with that. 1498 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:34,320 I mean, I'm. I don't know. 1499 01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,520 Yeah, just because it's the first session, whatever. 1500 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,800 You're still actually playing the game. 1501 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,080 The the thing about this tone of like, yeah, whatever. 1502 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,880 You know, it makes me internally also feel like, yeah, whatever. 1503 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,000 I guess. You know what I mean? 1504 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,320 Like, they're not taking this shit seriously. 1505 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,280 Like I'm not fucking taking it seriously, you know? 1506 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,720 And I know we joke about longer books. 1507 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,760 I read Lancer, so it's not that, just that this is a long book, 1508 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,160 you know, it's just. It's the way it's. 1509 01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:02,840 It's just the way. It's the way it's written. 1510 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,360 Yeah. Yeah. 1511 01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:12,880 MC the game, bring it. Especially do these, which are I 1512 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,680 think exactly the MC things. Right. 1513 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,520 Yeah. Bar forth. 1514 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:24,280 Apocalyptica Springboy of character creation and ask 1515 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,880 questions all the time. Good, good stuff. 1516 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,000 I think there's good there's definitely good stuff in here 1517 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,840 and it's going to go and give us a description of all of those 1518 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,800 things that we just that are in that list. 1519 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,920 I and A lot of this is a recap of the previous section. 1520 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:44,320 Kind of. I mean, it's basically going 1521 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,200 through like GM principles and stuff until you get so far. 1522 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,360 There's a little bit of divergent or there's a little 1523 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,200 couple of different things, but like, it still is very 1524 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,800 referential to that previous, yeah, yeah. 1525 01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,880 Until you get to the part at the end where it talks about the 1526 01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,880 threat map, which I'm like, I don't. 1527 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,080 The very next section is Threats, so I don't understand 1528 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,320 why. There's literally like 2 pages 1529 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:12,160 in the first section session that talk about the threat map 1530 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,720 and if you notice the example threat map. 1531 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,480 That's in the first session section is the exact same 1532 01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:21,240 example threat map that is almost immediately used in the 1533 01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,640 threat section. So once again, why are they in 1534 01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:24,880 both parts? Why are they explained 1535 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,960 differently in both parts? And like what's like, I don't 1536 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,640 understand why it's not like work on the threat map. 1537 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:33,120 See the Threat Map section? Like, there's just like 3 pages 1538 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,760 we don't need when we're seeing them again in like 10 days. 1539 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,760 It's really interesting. It's literally. 1540 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,680 I mean, it's immediately after. Immediately. 1541 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,440 Yeah, So. I mean, we need to talk about 1542 01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:46,080 threats when we get to the threat section, but I just don't 1543 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:47,920 understand why that's in the first session section. 1544 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,840 Like it just makes, I think referring to it and being like, 1545 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,200 hey like work on threats and maybe a couple of notes, but 1546 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:58,600 hey, see more in one page. Yeah, yeah. 1547 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,120 It's just it's it's it's just really it is what it is. 1548 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,000 So after the first section, once again it's like really weird 1549 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,400 tone, not like immediately after. 1550 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,960 Give it some time to sink in. That's literally a quote. 1551 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,200 That's a quote from the book. Not like time. 1552 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,800 Really. What? 1553 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:23,600 What I don't know. Like, I felt like they were. 1554 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,560 Like, I felt like they were like maybe trying to go over some 1555 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,680 type of like character thing, but it literally just feels like 1556 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,680 the creator, just like again, like just. 1557 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:34,080 Like, I can't remember what it's called, just like just just 1558 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,080 spewing forth like a train of thought onto the page and they 1559 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:38,560 literally just wrote in such a capital way. 1560 01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:40,600 Like you remember the part where we talked about earlier or 1561 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,520 whatever. Do that thing like that could be 1562 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,600 a quote in this book, yeah. After it basically says after 1563 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,720 the first section to just go back over the session in your 1564 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,240 head and review things that happen and create new threats 1565 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,560 and like MPC and like forward think. 1566 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:59,640 Which is great advice to put in the maestro, the MC. 1567 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,920 Section Weird that it's in in this section. 1568 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:05,600 Well. This is for the MC. 1569 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,720 Which then why not just put that all up into the MC section? 1570 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,520 That's what I'm saying it is for the MC. 1571 01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:19,800 But yeah, yeah like here's The thing is MC first session and 1572 01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:25,040 threats, the so those 3 sections are all MC stuff and then we get 1573 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:29,920 to moves, which is general, like we should have taken moves and 1574 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,200 boost them all up. This should actually be at the 1575 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,640 towards the end of the book. All of it should be at the end, 1576 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,120 yeah. MC section, threat section, 1577 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,560 playbooks, like all of that. Like there needs to be a really 1578 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,040 big separation between stuff players need and stuff MC needs. 1579 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,040 But again, it feels like the AMC stuff is like stuff right in the 1580 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,600 middle of the sandwich of what the player needs, which forces 1581 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,200 the player to read the whole fucking book. 1582 01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:57,880 Like, I don't know. All right, getting 2 threats. 1583 01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,440 Let's cruise through threats real quick. 1584 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,480 There, There they are. They are threatening. 1585 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,000 That is it. There's a whole page here just 1586 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,760 talking about creating threats and doing threat stuff. 1587 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:12,480 There are essential threats. And among the threats you create 1588 01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:15,480 after the 1st and 2nd sections, be sure to create your essential 1589 01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:18,400 threats. They are for where the PCs are 1590 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,360 created as a landscape for any PC gangs, create them as brutes. 1591 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,920 For any NP PCs and other NPCS, create them as brutes. 1592 01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:27,480 We'll get to that. In a section. 1593 01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:30,160 Again, it's whatever. So to create a threat to this 1594 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:35,440 name, name it and copy it. Copy over its impulse, describe 1595 01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:38,320 it, and list its cast, if any. You place it on the threat map. 1596 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,040 If it's in motion, Market's direction with an arrow, list 1597 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:44,280 its stakes, questions if any. If it's connected to other 1598 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,000 threats, list them. And if it calls for a custom 1599 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,040 mover countdown, create it. So there's a threat sheet here. 1600 01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:53,360 Which basically gives like what it's called, what kind it is, 1601 01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,120 what its impulse is, what its description cast is, the stakes 1602 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,680 written down for custom moves, It's countdown clock. 1603 01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,400 And then like a little mini version of the threat map, which 1604 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,400 we'll get to in a second about, like where it might be and 1605 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,040 whatnot. And there are seven kinds of 1606 01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:08,800 threats. There are warlords, grotesques, 1607 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,720 afflictions, brutes, landscapes, train and vehicle. 1608 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,480 Those are the different kinds of threats you can have on the 1609 01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:15,880 threat map. Warlords are exactly what 1610 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,680 warlords sounds like. They're dictators, slavers, all 1611 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,400 those kind of things. They are the the bad combatting 1612 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,480 people. And then there's a whole list of 1613 01:22:23,480 --> 01:22:26,000 threat moves that warlords can do. 1614 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,560 Push the battle moves, outflank someone, attack someone 1615 01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:30,640 directly. Hugely. 1616 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,320 There's like 10 things for each one. 1617 01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,400 I'm not going to go through all of them, just going to go 1618 01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,880 through like examples. That's exactly what it is. 1619 01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:39,880 Warlords act primarily through their people. 1620 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,880 OK, grotesques are always human. It says they're always a person. 1621 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,520 Not a monster, but they are now grotesque, like cannibals, 1622 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,920 mutants and things like that. There's a whole list of threat 1623 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,520 moves for them. There's afflictions, which are 1624 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,320 diseases, conditions and things like that. 1625 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,120 Once again, there's a whole list of threat moves for them. 1626 01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:03,560 Brutes are a group of people, with or without a leader, acting 1627 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,040 in crude, perhaps provisional concert. 1628 01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,120 So hunting packs, things like that list of threat moves. 1629 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,320 For brutes there's landscapes, which is natural or constricted 1630 01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,800 landscape. You choose the kind. 1631 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:18,080 There's prisons, breathing pits, furnaces, mirages, a list of 1632 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,960 threat moves. For those, there's terrain, 1633 01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,320 which is precipice, a wall, an overhang, something in the way I 1634 01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,920 don't understand really. Terrain is a little different 1635 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:30,520 than landscape, I think, because landscape is more of like kind 1636 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,720 of specific places in the land, like specifically like a 1637 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:39,760 fortress, a maze, a prison. Terrain is more like I set a 1638 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,320 wall, a precipice, things like that. 1639 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,880 So. The names can be a little bit 1640 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,960 confusing on that one. There's vehicles, which we 1641 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:47,320 talked about before. There's different types of 1642 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,120 vehicles and once again a huge list of threat moves that you 1643 01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:52,800 can do with vehicles. I don't I I don't again for the 1644 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,440 MC section on threats, I don't mind this because it really 1645 01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:58,880 breaks down like what you can do in like an interesting way. 1646 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,880 So like you know that for vehicles, if they're vicious and 1647 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,840 the A move is swerve across the road though. 1648 01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,360 So it's like OK, it it really is just saying narratively all the 1649 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,680 different things you can do. So again, it makes moves. 1650 01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,760 Feel like they can be pretty much anything. 1651 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,840 Threat moves. This is the course of this game. 1652 01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:24,480 Anything's a move. Yeah, pushing a move just means 1653 01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:27,840 saying, for instance, hey, this is a charge situation. 1654 01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,800 I think somebody should read it who wants to, or he's acting 1655 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,880 kind of weird, don't you think? Want to read him Or there are 1656 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,520 like 50 of them roaring and swinging their meat knives and 1657 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,200 rushing in a car. Do you want to fight or hold 1658 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,840 your position or ditch out for what? 1659 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:43,800 Like, but so that really didn't explain to me what pushing is at 1660 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,120 at at all. And that's really one of the 1661 01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,760 first and only times they really talk about pushing. 1662 01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:56,280 Like pushing the role means pushing a move means this is 1663 01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,560 more than just a regular situation and more than just 1664 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,720 regular shit needs to happen from it, right? 1665 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:08,600 Yeah, I'm trying to say hold on. I have another PBTA game over at 1666 01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,560 the same time and I know there is pushing in this one. 1667 01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,880 Where is it push? Look at that. 1668 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,960 It's got, it's a, it's a couple paragraphs and it's got bolded 1669 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,400 top when you attempt something particularly. 1670 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:25,080 Yeah. OK, cool. 1671 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:27,760 Right. Yeah. 1672 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,640 It it's again like it's just all the rules are so 1673 01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,880 conversationally written into the thing. 1674 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,320 That they're at no point are they pulled out and explained in 1675 01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,520 any meaningful way. It's more just like ranted at 1676 01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:44,760 you and you're you're you should somehow in these two pages, by 1677 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,200 the context of the rant, understand it. 1678 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,720 It's It's also funny because like this one page has A1 bolded 1679 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:55,800 thing, which just is almost out of context and it's just a weird 1680 01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,840 bolded thing. And I'm like, I'm so used to the 1681 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,920 first time we go through a game, I'll skim it and they'll read 1682 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,880 everything that's bolded. Because usually that's like the 1683 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,360 core mechanics and this one was like display the contents of a 1684 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,680 grotesque heart. Like, what the fuck are we 1685 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,360 talking? About exactly, exactly there. 1686 01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:17,080 There is no nothing about the way this game is written that 1687 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,960 gives you the important parts as if they're important. 1688 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,080 Like the only things that are bolded in the entire thing are 1689 01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,320 moves. Every move in this game is 1690 01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,600 freaking bolded. Like, that's really it. 1691 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,800 But not the rules. They're not even italicized. 1692 01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,200 They're very rarely separated into parts that are more 1693 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,960 parseable. It's just like, again, pushing 1694 01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,480 is an important thing, and it's just randomly at the beginning 1695 01:26:37,480 --> 01:26:40,560 of like a like a a page here, but no real explanation almost 1696 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,440 immediately just goes into some examples, but no real 1697 01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:45,560 explanation, like at all. Like, I don't know. 1698 01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:50,160 I mean the the game is explained through a series of 1699 01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,440 conversational examples, not through any technical jargon 1700 01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:55,320 like pretty much at all as what it comes down to. 1701 01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,560 So it's all supposed to be just contextual understanding. 1702 01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:03,480 So an editor and a dev editor that does a little bit more 1703 01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:05,400 technical writing would have been really good for this 1704 01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:06,720 because I'm I'm I'm getting the point. 1705 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:07,920 We're just like we're just skipping stuff. 1706 01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,680 I don't even care description and cast you describe stuff like 1707 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,880 describe the stakes like I mean so the threat map is an 1708 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,120 important pit here. I don't mind the threat map. 1709 01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:17,400 I think it's kind of interesting. 1710 01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:21,200 I don't think it it it's interesting. 1711 01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:25,320 So and and countdown clocks, custom moves, I thought. 1712 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:27,800 We would get to the the threat map. 1713 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,320 Oh, example threat maps. Again, this is the exact same 1714 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,760 threat map as what's under the first session section, literally 1715 01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:40,120 like in the previous section. So when you look at the threat 1716 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:42,280 map, because that is an actual core part of the game, that 1717 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:43,360 should be explained a little bit better. 1718 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,640 You mark the map, you mark the map, the threat's location, and 1719 01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,560 if it's moving in its direction, so the innermost circle is the 1720 01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,640 PCs, their gangs are holding their vehicles. 1721 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,240 Then there is like a second of the first ring. 1722 01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:57,320 Of threats that are near the PCs. 1723 01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,240 The outer ring is threats that are AT and pass the PCs 1724 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,600 horizons. And then there's notional 1725 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,640 threats which are rumors, fears like hereby monster section or 1726 01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:08,760 whatever. And then marked on the map there 1727 01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,480 is north-south, east, West. So it's actually like physically 1728 01:28:11,480 --> 01:28:14,680 what's on the map. But then there's also U&D, which 1729 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,320 is up and down for threats above and below the characters. 1730 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,760 OK, OK, there's I, which is inside for threats within local 1731 01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,000 landscapes and populations like cult's disease and the 1732 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,800 parasites. And there's O, which is outside 1733 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,920 for threats originating in the world, psychic maelstrom, or 1734 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,320 even elsewhere. There's too many of those things 1735 01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,120 when we get to tags, when we start talking about like N, -, 1 1736 01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,400 inside, plus this like, it's just like it created all of this 1737 01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,640 stuff that could be better explained through other things 1738 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:44,000 like like, I don't. It is so bizarre. 1739 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,600 Like I think conceptually I like the threat map. 1740 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:53,960 Like until you add the IUDO like I'm like you know making a map 1741 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,280 and like having a threats like mapped out and like where they 1742 01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,560 are in relation to you and like moving towards your way. 1743 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,920 I'm like very cool. And you're like, yeah, yeah, 1744 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,160 then that part, no, I'm, I'm out, so. 1745 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,160 Yeah dude, as soon as I think they just wanted to fill in the 1746 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:10,720 parts of like the the thing 'cause if you, if you on the 1747 01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,440 same map, have directions and which threats are. 1748 01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,320 Right. But interspersed between those 1749 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:21,480 directions, you have these like, kind of like conceptual ideas 1750 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,560 like diseases or things like that. 1751 01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:27,360 Like, what if what if something's northeast of me? 1752 01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,840 Oh, no, it's only sorry. It's only north or east of you. 1753 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,720 Like there is no. So you you have both a 1754 01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,920 directional map and a conceptual map in the same space. 1755 01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,480 So I don't like divided up. You could see two threat maps 1756 01:29:42,480 --> 01:29:46,040 being cool like a. I think either either have two 1757 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:50,240 threat maps, right? Or for like use a threat map as 1758 01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,560 an actual map. OK, so like keep your locations 1759 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,120 on there and then keep the circles be the things that are 1760 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,920 important. But these like conceptual bits 1761 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:04,560 like like local landscapes and and threats originating from 1762 01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,000 psycho, psychic maelstrom and things like that, Things that 1763 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,640 are up or down or whatever, just put a list underneath, yeah? 1764 01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,720 Just do 1234 underneath the map for the things that aren't 1765 01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:17,440 actually location based and if it is a location based thing 1766 01:30:17,440 --> 01:30:21,960 like the cult is to the north and it's outside then put it 1767 01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,440 there. But if it's not northwest, so 1768 01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:27,080 just. Right, that's I don't. 1769 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,760 I don't like this overlay of both conceptual and and physical 1770 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,440 in the same map. When it it's it's weird. 1771 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,840 Because it can cross into both, just either just have two 1772 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,200 separate maps, 1 for more conceptual, one for more 1773 01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:42,960 location based, or just put it underneath because there is a 1774 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,400 list of things underneath the threat maps when you actually go 1775 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,200 down to the threat map. Or you don't even need to do 1776 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,560 that really, because you can actually just number the threats 1777 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:56,680 and and and write it on their little threat card, right? 1778 01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:59,840 Because you're supposed to put a little dot where that threat is. 1779 01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:03,040 But again like. To me, the threat map is a 1780 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,760 physical location map and that's the what works better in my 1781 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,320 brain. But when you actually look on 1782 01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,560 the thing here, so the other thing that's interesting about 1783 01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:13,560 the example map, right? Do you see anything written in, 1784 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:19,760 up, down, in or out? There's the one thing in in, 1785 01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,360 right? One there's like one thing 1786 01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,920 written on one example for like what's out. 1787 01:31:25,480 --> 01:31:29,560 It says angels hunting pack. So like and the in and out isn't 1788 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,600 like, so it's just like OK. But there's nothing written all 1789 01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,200 up, down or any of these. So it's like you put it on the 1790 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,640 map and then in none of the explanations, like none of the 1791 01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,320 examples are any of those sections even actually used 1792 01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:44,400 except for one which is used. The same thing is used twice on 1793 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,120 two different examples. So it's just like you don't even 1794 01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,560 give an example of like how those things are really 1795 01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,360 applicable, but there's like an I wonder section underneath. 1796 01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,240 So like, why wouldn't there just be like? 1797 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,400 Conceptual or like things to keep track of. 1798 01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,520 Or like, you know, outsider threats or or whatever. 1799 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,800 Like this disease is present. You know, like it just doesn't 1800 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,560 make sense to me that like you create this thing, put these two 1801 01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:08,960 random like things together and then don't even give examples 1802 01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:10,800 when the whole thing is based on conceptual examples. 1803 01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:15,640 So I'm countdown clocks. I'm going to go through count on 1804 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,600 clocks and then we're just going to start skipping the rest of 1805 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,800 this book because I just can't. So countdown clocks. 1806 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,520 I don't like the way these work. I like clocks. 1807 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:30,360 Yeah, I got it. And then the so the way 1808 01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,840 countdown clocks work, I don't even think they're explained 1809 01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,040 here. We, I think we can just get to 1810 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:38,920 it later. They're not even like like no, 1811 01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:41,120 this isn't in the part. So they kind of explains 1812 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,360 countdown clocks a little bit around the clock notes things 1813 01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,680 will happen before 9:00 that thing's coming but preventable. 1814 01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:50,320 So this is countdown clocks in the context of like as the 1815 01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,720 threats approaching. But like not in the way that 1816 01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,480 like HP works or anything like that. 1817 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,280 I don't mind the way it works but I also don't I don't need 1818 01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,840 like the numbers on them. Like I like clocks written out 1819 01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,200 more like tracks kind of like the way Necroniolus does. 1820 01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,280 Like if I want if in eight in eight rounds something's going 1821 01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,160 to happen I'll make an 8 round clock and mark a segment off 1822 01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,280 each time. It's really, I don't know, I I 1823 01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,080 don't necessarily like the way clocks work in this but we're 1824 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,560 not going to talk about them right now So that's the end of 1825 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,440 threats moves snowball. This is a whole huge section 1826 01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,360 that just says. That when you do a move, 1827 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,520 sometimes it triggers another move that triggers another move. 1828 01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,040 It's literally the whole thing that that could literally just 1829 01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,200 be like a tiny paragraph. That's it. 1830 01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:38,160 Instead, it's 123-4567 seven pages to just be like sometimes 1831 01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,000 moves triggers other moves. That happens. 1832 01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:46,200 You can have a series of moves. This like, I want to love this 1833 01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:47,840 game. The core mechanics of it, like 1834 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,320 the PBTA style game is like my favorite game of reading this 1835 01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,240 book. It it just it's breaking my 1836 01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,920 brain and it's so frustrating because there are no core 1837 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,080 mechanics. Do not make something PBTA just 1838 01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:00,200 by the way. It just, it hurts my soul like 1839 01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:01,600 I. That's what's so frustrating. 1840 01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,600 The same thing with Blades in the Dark, where it's just like I 1841 01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,160 feel like there's such a good system that mixed into just such 1842 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,560 a bad book and it just. And it's really, really 1843 01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:12,960 frustrating because and it's also so hard to sit and read 1844 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:14,920 like, like both of us. And this isn't, you know, 1845 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,640 terrible ADHD. So like having to sit down and, 1846 01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,840 like, really force yourself to try to parse something, it it 1847 01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,800 makes it so frustrating. And it just builds up this hate 1848 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,400 in me so that, like, I might love something, but they're like 1849 01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,800 the way that it's, like communicated to me makes me just 1850 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,160 hate it, you know? And it's hard. 1851 01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,360 It's weird because like right now I'm for fun reading like the 1852 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:42,080 Stormlight Archives by Brandon Sanderson, which are like 1200 1853 01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:45,400 page, densely packed books. And I have a fine time reading 1854 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:48,240 those, you know, and I've read Lancer and I really enjoyed it. 1855 01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,600 And I've read Broken World, which is another fairly thick 1856 01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,720 PBT book, and I really like that. 1857 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:54,120 I don't like how this one's written. 1858 01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,040 So I'm not going to blame my ADHD on this one. 1859 01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:03,480 I think physically, the way that last classic that we did, I mean 1860 01:35:03,480 --> 01:35:07,200 I'm like blades, blades are the one that the way that physically 1861 01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,640 was written also is just hard for me to break up. 1862 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,440 This one's has a lot more space and there's a lot more like like 1863 01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:15,040 breathing room. I just don't like. 1864 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:20,160 I just didn't like reading it. I just, I want to we keep going 1865 01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:24,560 over these like classics, right, that so many systems are built 1866 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:25,840 on. Right. 1867 01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:27,560 We're doing a possible story now. 1868 01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,040 We did Blades in the Dark, we did Black Hack, and just every 1869 01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:35,000 time I feel like we just get to the progenitor of these massive 1870 01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,560 trees of games in our system and they just don't like the 1871 01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:39,120 original game. And a lot of it just comes down 1872 01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,840 to like how it's communicated and it's just frustrating and it 1873 01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:46,800 makes me also go, you know what? There's a maybe there's a reason 1874 01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,680 that there's like 50 PVTA games and I've never heard of someone 1875 01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:51,200 playing Apocalypse World, you know what I mean? 1876 01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,880 Like, I've never heard someone say black hack, but I've seen a 1877 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,840 lot of black hack hacks, so you know, yeah. 1878 01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:01,040 Anyway, PC versus PC, it happens like, guess what? 1879 01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:02,520 It all works the same as everything else. 1880 01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:04,200 That's that's basically all it says. 1881 01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,480 Then we get to the basic moves. OK, so we're talking about 136 1882 01:36:09,480 --> 01:36:11,840 pages in. We're actually going to finally 1883 01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,760 talk about the what amounts to the core mechanic of the entire 1884 01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,720 game and the 4th time, Fifth time, sixth times. 1885 01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,840 It's mentioned and written in a different way than every other 1886 01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:22,480 time. Yeah, it actually has 1887 01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:23,920 explanation, which we're not going to read all the 1888 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:25,720 explanation for everything because we don't need every use 1889 01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,240 case for everything but the basic moves. 1890 01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,560 This is a partial success system. 1891 01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,200 Oh yeah, I thought I was doing basic moves. 1892 01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:36,360 Go for it. Oh, I just didn't read snowball 1893 01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:37,680 moves because I read all that text. 1894 01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:42,840 I saw the text and I was like, no, but basic moves. 1895 01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:51,520 Yeah, it's you roll 2D6 plus stat and then, you know, six or 1896 01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:57,120 less, miss seven or more, hit 7 to 9, weak, 10 plus strong, 1897 01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,800 right. That partial success system, the 1898 01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,640 first basic move is act under fire. 1899 01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,640 It's basically when you do something, when you're in a high 1900 01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:10,480 pressure situation, you're going to roll plus cool. 1901 01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,320 That's it. You know, under fire. 1902 01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,320 Fire is anything. You're under pressure. 1903 01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,200 Yeah, let's act under fire. Yeah, perfect. 1904 01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:26,840 But then but then there like so the the core mechanic of all of 1905 01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,080 this comes down to like the mixed success aspect of it. 1906 01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:31,280 So. On A10 plus you do it. 1907 01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,440 On a 7 to 9 you flinch, hesitate or stall. 1908 01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,080 The MC can offer you a worse outcome, a hard bargain or an 1909 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,000 ugly choice on a miss. Be prepared for the worst so 1910 01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:42,560 every move has the the staff that you roll, and then it has 1911 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,280 what happens on A10 plus on a 7 to 9 and on a complete failure. 1912 01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:50,880 Some of them have like a list of things that you can get pick. 1913 01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,240 Three. Pick two. 1914 01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:54,400 Pick one. Yeah, yeah. 1915 01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:59,560 And I I have seen that used in other ways that I liked and. 1916 01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:06,320 I'm moving on to like, here's The thing is, like, I like that 1917 01:38:06,480 --> 01:38:09,120 that core right there is my favorite. 1918 01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:12,000 It is mixed success. But the way I like PBTA is like 1919 01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:16,480 World of Dungeons. Because what I want, right is 1920 01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:21,000 you roll a stat, right? You got 7 to 9. 1921 01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,080 So now there's a you hit, but there's a complication, and I 1922 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,520 come up with a complication. Based on the narrative that's 1923 01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:31,160 happening and we move forward, yeah, yeah, that that's that. 1924 01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,880 That's it. But you don't need a list of 10 1925 01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,520 ways in order to be to choose which stat you're going to roll. 1926 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,400 And I don't necessarily need a huge, like list of the possible 1927 01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:42,640 pick twos, pick ones, pick threes. 1928 01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,160 I like that. But I like that in the context 1929 01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:49,080 of like there's a Powered by the Apocalypse written by Somebody 1930 01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:50,760 Else section later where it's like casting a spell. 1931 01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:54,000 It's like dope okay. Here's, here's what I want from 1932 01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,920 a move is like when there is some type of like like a power 1933 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,880 being used or a special being used, something that in that 1934 01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:05,040 specific instance requires more. That's cool. 1935 01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:08,160 What I hate are these basic moves or it's just like okay, 1936 01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:10,720 like I want to just do some shit and it's like okay. 1937 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:12,320 That sounds like you're doing it. 1938 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:15,160 Cool. So roll cool, and then see what 1939 01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,520 happens. But like the list of basic moves 1940 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,560 funnels all narration into 10, it really does. 1941 01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:24,800 It tells you exactly how to play this game. 1942 01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:26,800 This. These are the boxes. 1943 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:30,120 These are the lines that you're coloring inside of. 1944 01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:33,280 It's. Too much structure for the basic 1945 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:36,400 moves of the game, for advanced moves, for peripheral moves, For 1946 01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,720 other things like that I don't mind. 1947 01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,400 But for the structure, for their apparent intent behind this, 1948 01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,240 Yeah, and yet somehow still not enough structure when writing 1949 01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:51,040 this down. OK, so our next move is go 1950 01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:56,640 aggro. When you go aggro on someone, 1951 01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,840 you're going to roll plus hard on the 10. 1952 01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:05,160 Plus they have to choose one, force your hand and suck it up, 1953 01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:09,120 cave, and do what you want. On a 7 to 9 they can choose one 1954 01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:11,120 of the above or one of the following. 1955 01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,840 Get the hell out of your way. Barricade themselves securely 1956 01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,640 in. Give you something they think 1957 01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:21,000 you want or tell you what what you want to hear. 1958 01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:23,000 Yeah, and I miss. Prepare. 1959 01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,680 Prepare for the worst. Yeah, and this is a weird one. 1960 01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,040 The list is weird. So I mean, but that that the 1961 01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:34,400 going aggro one is kind of the like the standard for the most 1962 01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,440 part like example of the rest of the moves where it's like. 1963 01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,360 You because it. But it also is weird because it 1964 01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:41,960 says on A10 plus they have to choose one. 1965 01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:47,320 So you go aggro on someone, they they keep one of those things. 1966 01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:48,680 Yeah, which? Weird. 1967 01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,120 Basically, the moves feel like scripts to me. 1968 01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,080 That's what it feels like, where it's like I can't just do what I 1969 01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:56,760 want because as soon as I trigger a move, it's all 1970 01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,320 scripted out for me. Like including the snowball 1971 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:00,920 thing and you do this. What triggers this? 1972 01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:02,760 What trigger this? It feels, you know what it feels 1973 01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,440 like. It feels like a choose your own 1974 01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:08,240 adventure book. Suddenly, as opposed to playing 1975 01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:10,600 a game, you know, where it's just like as soon as the move 1976 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,920 triggers, you're just along for the ride and maybe you get to 1977 01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,760 make a few choices, but eventually it rolls out the end. 1978 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:20,880 And it's like to me, I think the, the, the, like the. 1979 01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:24,800 Trying to get rid of the process of choice comes down to having 1980 01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:26,920 no choice at all. Like, maybe you get to pick one 1981 01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:28,680 or two things every now and then, but for the most part, as 1982 01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:30,680 soon as the move is triggered, you're just following the 1983 01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:32,840 script. Yeah, there, this is. 1984 01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:36,000 This is very much on the other end of choice paralysis. 1985 01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,480 Yeah, the next move. Sucker someone. 1986 01:41:40,480 --> 01:41:45,800 But but sorry, real quick because under each move, right. 1987 01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,400 So that that by in and of itself, that's enough for me. 1988 01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:50,880 I get it right. So then, but underneath go 1989 01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:54,960 aggro, there's literally 3/4 of a page talking about it. 1990 01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,400 There's an at least at least these examples are actually 1991 01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:01,560 marked off as examples, which which I'm fine with, it's 1992 01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,400 actually marked as examples. It's not just conversation 1993 01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:06,120 within the rules context. But then that's another like 1994 01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:09,280 half a page, and then there's a huge paragraph on example of a 1995 01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:13,080 mistake and a correction. So like, I don't necessarily 1996 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:16,400 mind this stuff as much, especially the examples and the 1997 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,920 other part of the examples, but so many of the rules. 1998 01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,680 Are written mechanically where I'm like, OK, I get it. 1999 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,520 And then they give me 10 paragraphs with more contextual 2000 01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,920 explanation. And it's like that's been the 2001 01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,880 problem the whole time, is there's too much contextual. 2002 01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:32,240 I do this, but sometimes I do this and sometimes you can do 2003 01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:33,960 this instead. Instead of just giving me the 2004 01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,920 rules and giving me the examples, you know, every page, 2005 01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,480 every move takes like 2 pages, 3 pages. 2006 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:44,400 Uh huh? Yeah, I'm in agreement. 2007 01:42:46,160 --> 01:43:03,010 So sucker someone. Which, you know, yeah. 2008 01:43:03,570 --> 01:43:06,490 So the sucker someone, we're you know what, guys we're going to 2009 01:43:06,490 --> 01:43:08,730 keep going. We we you're getting how this 2010 01:43:08,730 --> 01:43:09,690 works. We're just going to move 2011 01:43:09,690 --> 01:43:11,050 through. Sucker. 2012 01:43:11,050 --> 01:43:14,490 Someone is like when you attack someone who's unspecting or 2013 01:43:14,490 --> 01:43:21,570 helpless. Perfect in battle. 2014 01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,800 Let's see, when you're in battle, yeah, that's when you 2015 01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:31,080 use the battle moves. You can seize by force, which 2016 01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,680 you're going to roll plus hard. And then you get to pick from a 2017 01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:42,680 list of things again. After that you have Yeah, sorry, 2018 01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:47,680 I'm laughing at our chat. Seduce or manipulate? 2019 01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:52,800 It's when you seduce or manipulate someone, you're going 2020 01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:56,240 to roll plus hot for how hot you are. 2021 01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,200 And yeah, that's that's that one. 2022 01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,680 Well, so we can explain this one just a little bit more, because 2023 01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:05,680 this one's an important core mechanic of the game. 2024 01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:07,200 Is this is when the sex comes in? 2025 01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:10,600 Yeah, this is when the sex comes in. 2026 01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:14,240 So. Yeah, so basically when you're 2027 01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:17,600 the whole point of sex in the game is not just, like, just 2028 01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:22,880 just banging, right? The whole section here talking 2029 01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:25,880 about it is it's leverage, right? 2030 01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:28,920 So, and that's all point because the sex moves fall under seduce 2031 01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,160 and manipulate, blah fast talk, whatever. 2032 01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:35,880 So you really only use sex in the game when sex is leverage, 2033 01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:37,840 where it's like, OK, you want that thing? 2034 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:39,400 Like I'll fuck you if you give it to me. 2035 01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:42,240 You know what I mean like. Yeah, just like real life. 2036 01:44:42,440 --> 01:44:45,200 So it's interesting the way that it works in here and it 2037 01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:47,560 specifically says over and over again that for like just go 2038 01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,320 black, like you don't need to to act all this stuff out. 2039 01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:52,040 I mean, I guess if you really want to have that kind of game, 2040 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:59,000 you totally can. But like the it's specifically 2041 01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:05,480 about gaining leverage and using leverage and also about creating 2042 01:45:05,480 --> 01:45:07,280 history with people. So when you have sex with 2043 01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:10,200 someone, your sex move comes in. And for the most part. 2044 01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:18,280 That talks about whether you get history with someone and a move 2045 01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:22,320 that you can do based on the history that you get or 2046 01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,400 affecting the history you get with someone, which affects your 2047 01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,920 improvement. So the sex moves, if you use 2048 01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:30,960 them, directly, affect your improvement in the mechanics of 2049 01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,040 the game. So yeah, that's are we, dude? 2050 01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:39,080 I don't know. Yeah. 2051 01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:41,360 I'll just run through the rest of base moves because I think I 2052 01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:42,560 was going to do these first anyway. 2053 01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:44,280 So I've read these like really diligently. 2054 01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,880 So read a stitch. When you read a charge 2055 01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:49,680 situation, you roll plus sharp basically. 2056 01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:51,080 That's just understanding what's going on. 2057 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:52,440 That's important for a lot of the things. 2058 01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:54,920 When you read a person, it's exactly the same thing. 2059 01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:56,720 It's you read person in a two different moves. 2060 01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:01,200 Because it's a situation in a person, So one, yeah. 2061 01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:05,080 So but The thing is like you roll for sharp on both, but like 2062 01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:08,760 what you get from the list of questions is totally different. 2063 01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,000 So like that is very true. What's? 2064 01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:11,720 The best What's the best escape room? 2065 01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,400 What's who's vulnerable? Things like that is, is the 2066 01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,480 situation? And reading a person is are they 2067 01:46:16,480 --> 01:46:18,160 telling the truth? How are they feeling? 2068 01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,200 Like what's going on? So again, each of these has a 2069 01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:27,240 series of things underneath it and this is different though 2070 01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:30,120 because you can hold right, which is something we haven't 2071 01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:33,920 really talked about yet. So on A10 plus you hold three, 2072 01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,920 which means when you interact with someone you get a one for 2073 01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:38,320 one. So basically you don't 2074 01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:44,240 immediately have to to use those holds, but you can use them as 2075 01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,600 the situation plays out. So if I'm reading you and I roll 2076 01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,600 plus sharp, on A10 plus I roll, I hold three. 2077 01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,840 So as our interaction plays out, I can you can say something to 2078 01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,000 me and I can be like, OK, I'm using one of my holds. 2079 01:46:56,480 --> 01:46:58,600 And the MC tells me, are they telling the truth? 2080 01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:00,880 And then as the situation continues to play out, I can use 2081 01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,480 another one of my holds to say to ask like what their intent 2082 01:47:03,480 --> 01:47:05,120 is. So this move is different 2083 01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,360 because of the holds, which is not something that's really 2084 01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:10,440 explained well on like how the holds work and things like that. 2085 01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:12,720 It's not. And I would still argue that 2086 01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:16,600 this is the read person and read stitch is just one move that has 2087 01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:19,960 two different lists based on whether or not you're reading a 2088 01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,720 period. Like, I mean it is, but like, 2089 01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:26,280 yeah, it doesn't need to. Yeah, yeah. 2090 01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:27,800 I don't, I don't, I don't disagree. 2091 01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:30,400 I think, I think you know, because they feel they need to 2092 01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:32,960 have all the examples and stuff, which again, I do like, but it's 2093 01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:35,360 all the talk afterwards that makes it a little bit different. 2094 01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:38,040 But yeah, I mean you could, if you're just going to have two 2095 01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:40,120 different lists anyway, then it's OK to break it in two for 2096 01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:41,240 me. But again, yeah, it is the exact 2097 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:42,120 same move. Well, it is. 2098 01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,240 And then there's a whole other section that says reading a 2099 01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:46,120 stitch or a person. Or a person. 2100 01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:46,680 Like what? Yeah. 2101 01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:50,800 So you could then just have it in there, right? 2102 01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,360 And then open your brain. Open your brain to the world. 2103 01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,280 Psychic maelstrom. Again, I wish that came up a 2104 01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,480 little bit more, but it really talks about giving good detail 2105 01:47:58,480 --> 01:48:00,160 to the impressions of things that are happening. 2106 01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,560 There's not really a list of things underneath the open the 2107 01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:05,680 brain section. It's just a lot of explanation. 2108 01:48:06,480 --> 01:48:08,520 And examples about open your brain to the psychic maelstrom, 2109 01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:12,280 There's Help or Interfere, which is really weird and kind of 2110 01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,160 weirdly explained because it is weird. 2111 01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:17,080 But it's when history really comes in and is usable. 2112 01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:19,520 And it's interesting that you can, like, help your buddies out 2113 01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,360 or you can be like, Nah, I'm going to fuck them over, You 2114 01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:23,960 know, you can give them negatives. 2115 01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:27,280 And I kind of like that. Yeah, this one's interesting, 2116 01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:30,560 but it is, it has a little bit of like a retconi aspect to it. 2117 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:33,360 So it says. Helping your interfering your 2118 01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:37,440 role history like you said on A10 plus they take +2 help or -2 2119 01:48:37,440 --> 01:48:39,960 interference to their role. On a 7:00 and 9:00 it's one or 2120 01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:41,280 less. But like the example play 2121 01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:45,560 literally says like my PC is trying to shoot your PC, your PC 2122 01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:49,800 runs behind a a barrel right? And. 2123 01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:52,280 Like the response is, well, I wouldn't let you just do that. 2124 01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:54,480 So it's not like you can have a move stop a move because it's 2125 01:48:54,480 --> 01:48:57,840 not really opposed rules in it. So what you would do instead is 2126 01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:01,160 I go to shoot you. You respond by running behind a 2127 01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:03,320 barrel. I respond by rolling 2128 01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:07,200 interference to make your run behind the barrel move like act 2129 01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:10,480 under fire. Have negative points to it so 2130 01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:13,760 that my move then comes back into having a more likelihood to 2131 01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:15,920 hit you. So it's it's kind of like that 2132 01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:17,440 snowball thing. So you have to like do a thing 2133 01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:19,520 to do a thing to do a thing to go back to the first thing to 2134 01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:22,000 see how well it works. I don't mind that it sounds like 2135 01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:23,160 it's a thing that I wouldn't like. 2136 01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,320 But I don't mind that because there I think that's a much 2137 01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:29,240 better way to do it than like or it is an alternate way to do a 2138 01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:33,280 polls rolls that I don't mind to just be like you do a thing, so 2139 01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:37,360 I do a thing but. I make it a little harder for 2140 01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:39,000 you, so then my thing works a little bit better. 2141 01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:41,360 I don't mind that one. And I do like when history 2142 01:49:41,440 --> 01:49:43,800 actually comes into play. Mutual interference. 2143 01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,360 That's what I was basically talking about, lifestyle. 2144 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:48,480 I don't understand why this is a move. 2145 01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,360 Like at the beginning of a session, spend one or two barter 2146 01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,520 for your lifestyle. Why is that a move? 2147 01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:55,360 Just like, be it like everything. 2148 01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:57,280 Everything's a move. Everything. 2149 01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:02,160 Everything is working gigs. That's I think need Jingle 2150 01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:04,560 during a session is a move and it's just like okay. 2151 01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:06,440 Then literally just say you can work gigs. 2152 01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:10,520 That's apparently a move. The session in move is a move. 2153 01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,320 This is what I'm talking about. Get to a point where like moves 2154 01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,840 don't mean moves don't mean anything. 2155 01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:18,200 The word move has lost all definition in my brain. 2156 01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,440 Like I several times have thought about the session end 2157 01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:24,360 move while we're doing this and like and I've I've we've so much 2158 01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:26,200 else going through this that I've forgotten about and then we 2159 01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:29,320 got into like Oh yeah, so yeah we're the ending the session to 2160 01:50:29,320 --> 01:50:31,360 move. That's what I'm saying. 2161 01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,840 Like, by making everything a move, you make moves 2162 01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:36,520 meaningless. Like I just and especially 2163 01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:38,160 again. This feeds back into the idea of 2164 01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:41,440 like, I feel boxed in by too much structure of the basic 2165 01:50:41,440 --> 01:50:43,480 moves. And then the response is always 2166 01:50:43,480 --> 01:50:45,400 well, not everything is a move and it's like, but everything in 2167 01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:46,720 the fucking book is a goddamn move. 2168 01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:50,040 Like the way it's written, you can't do anything without it 2169 01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:52,880 being a move, even though like in one tiny sentence it says if 2170 01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,800 it's not a move, don't do like only only things you do that 2171 01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:57,680 trigger moves, trigger moves. And it's just like, well, when 2172 01:50:57,680 --> 01:50:59,520 everything's a move, everything is a move. 2173 01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,680 So the end of the section is important. 2174 01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:03,920 So it says choose a character who knows you better than they 2175 01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,240 used to. If there's more than one, choose 2176 01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:09,360 one at your whim. OK, tell that player to add +1 2177 01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:11,160 to their history with you on their sheet. 2178 01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,560 If this brings them to history +4, they reset to history plus 2179 01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:16,920 one. And therefore mark experience. 2180 01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:18,760 Because don't forget, when you mark 5 experience you get to 2181 01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:21,160 improve. If no one knows you better. 2182 01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:23,160 Choose a character who doesn't know you as well as they 2183 01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:24,680 thought. Or choose any character you 2184 01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:27,000 whim. Tell that part to take -1 to 2185 01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:28,520 their history with you on their sheet. 2186 01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,800 If this brings them to history -3, they reset to zero and mark 2187 01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:33,440 an experience. So if you know someone really 2188 01:51:33,440 --> 01:51:35,960 well or not well at all, you still get the mark experience. 2189 01:51:36,440 --> 01:51:38,160 If you forget to do this at the end of the session, do it at the 2190 01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,160 beginning of the session. That is the end move. 2191 01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:43,160 Again, I don't understand why it can't just be like mechanic of 2192 01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:45,560 the game, but the mechanic of the game is that everything is a 2193 01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:46,960 move. So there you go and there's an 2194 01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:52,200 example for that, which is fine. And then that is the list of 2195 01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,560 basic moves. Hey, and you know, we're halfway 2196 01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:57,520 through the book. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2197 01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:03,760 Peripheral moves, which are other moves. 2198 01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:09,720 These are basic moves that come into play less commonly or 2199 01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:12,760 optionally or that might not come into play at all. 2200 01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:23,000 Yeah, oh. Harm and healing moves. 2201 01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:24,720 But then there's a whole harm and healing section. 2202 01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:33,360 Yeah, so yeah, harm and healing. Yeah, you real harm when you 2203 01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,440 suffer harm. And it's a list of things you 2204 01:52:36,440 --> 01:52:39,240 can choose. Yeah, yeah. 2205 01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:41,000 And then there's a bunch of examples. 2206 01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:45,440 And then after that is barter moves, which is optional because 2207 01:52:45,440 --> 01:52:47,480 maybe your world doesn't have bartering because it's too 2208 01:52:47,480 --> 01:52:53,440 apocalyptic or whatever, and it's interesting, I guess. 2209 01:52:53,440 --> 01:52:56,120 And then there's insight, which you probably won't have by 2210 01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:59,560 default, but if you have a Hocus follower that they might grant 2211 01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:05,520 it, Yeah. And then you have Augury, which 2212 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,320 is another thing that you probably won't have. 2213 01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,360 The Hocus follower might give it to you. 2214 01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,120 So again, why aren't all of these moves up into the 2215 01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:14,000 character section? And then you can just put the 2216 01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,600 moves that are specific to Hocus underneath the Hocus section. 2217 01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:19,400 Like, I don't know. Actually the first time I read 2218 01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,760 through this, I was like, we are all these just Hocus, you know, 2219 01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:23,840 like. Half of them are, yeah. 2220 01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:29,600 Oh wait, then we get to chain. Chain highlighted stats again. 2221 01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:31,600 Weird. For like, the fifth time here, 2222 01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:36,480 yes. A peripheral move like beginning 2223 01:53:36,480 --> 01:53:39,240 of any session move like. I just don't understand this is 2224 01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:40,880 the part where it's. What's so funny is that like 2225 01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:44,520 because this is here, that means that changing highlighted stats 2226 01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:47,360 is a. Move It is because everything is 2227 01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,240 a move. Don't forget page 163 because 2228 01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:51,000 I'm going to reference page 163 later. 2229 01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:53,920 Let me write that down. Oh wait, why? 2230 01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,360 Oh, you'll see. OK, cool. 2231 01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:58,640 And that's all the peripheral moves, right? 2232 01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:02,440 Yeah. And then we get to Daggle Moves, 2233 01:54:02,480 --> 01:54:07,800 which are all. Important and should be not on 2234 01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:13,440 page 166. Yeah, so exchanging harm, which 2235 01:54:13,440 --> 01:54:17,640 is hurting. Things but this is this is this 2236 01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:21,360 is a move, but it's it's it's also, like, literally a core 2237 01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:24,840 mechanic of the game, right? Inflicting harm and suffering 2238 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:26,400 harm. This is what I want to see. 2239 01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,080 Harm. Equal weapons minus armor. 2240 01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:29,600 That's a rule. That's a mechanic. 2241 01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:32,200 That is a thing that should be important in the game before 2242 01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:39,080 page 166. Yeah, you listen. 2243 01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:42,600 You inflict harm equal to the harm rating of your weapon, 2244 01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:45,920 minus the armor rating of your enemy. 2245 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,440 You suffer harm equal to the harm rating of your enemy's 2246 01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:52,920 weapon, minus the armor rating of your own armor. 2247 01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:57,480 Easy. It's the most actually. 2248 01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,320 Rules rule that in this whole thing, it's like, right at the 2249 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:01,720 top. It just says, hey, by the way, 2250 01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:06,000 it's just harm equals weapon minus armor and you're like, oh 2251 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:09,600 amazing, A. Short brief example for how it 2252 01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:10,760 works and then boom, you're good. 2253 01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:17,520 Yeah, it's weird and correct me if I'm wrong, but there's not a 2254 01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:21,400 straight like attack move, right? 2255 01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:23,480 No, not really. Because and this is another 2256 01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:25,560 thing, when we get to seize by force, which is the next thing, 2257 01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:28,440 there's a lot of explanation where it says like the default 2258 01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:32,400 battle move is seize by force. And I'm like, I don't understand 2259 01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,040 how that's the default. Like I just want to punch you in 2260 01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:38,160 the fucking face. But it's always like, well, 2261 01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:39,880 you're probably always fighting for something. 2262 01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:42,080 So try to seize by force. I'm like I just don't understand 2263 01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:44,360 how like. Maybe in the apocalypse world 2264 01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:47,320 where like you're really only ever like vying for stuff or 2265 01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:49,840 something or like a person or things, maybe that's kind of 2266 01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:51,920 like the default. I just don't understand how like 2267 01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:56,120 inflict harm isn't like the default move because but it also 2268 01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:58,120 says seized by force. And then you get to the 2269 01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:01,760 variations, which is assault a secure position, Keep hold of 2270 01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,760 something you have, fight your way free, defend someone else 2271 01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:06,160 from attack. How are those seized by force? 2272 01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,120 How is? You know what I mean? 2273 01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:10,120 Like you fight your way free, seize by force, or you're 2274 01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,760 seizing your freedom by force. This is one of the ones where 2275 01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:14,000 I'm like, this one feels, she warned. 2276 01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:16,200 Yeah, I I was just looking at that. 2277 01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:20,080 I have broken worlds open at the same time because it's not like 2278 01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:23,440 Patrick World's like it is actually very powered by the 2279 01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:25,360 apocalypse, like it has moves and everything. 2280 01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:26,520 It's still in that very learning fashion. 2281 01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:29,240 And they have a default attack move, which is just called Reach 2282 01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:32,360 Heaven through violence, which is like, yeah, when you're 2283 01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:33,560 attempting to strike to have a foe. 2284 01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,680 On this is what you do, yeah. What are you trying to? 2285 01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:38,800 Yeah. But seized by force. 2286 01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,480 Under seized by force, you get to pick one of these options and 2287 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:44,760 it is like you inflict harm, or you suffer less harm, or you 2288 01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,160 take definite and undeniable control, or you impress. 2289 01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:49,920 This may or frighten your enemy. Only one of those things, 2290 01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:53,160 literally one of those things of the four listed has anything to 2291 01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:54,920 do with actually taking control of anything. 2292 01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:58,480 Yeah, what a weird thing to call that. 2293 01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,160 I mean, there's so many fucking moves. 2294 01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:03,280 Like, why not just create one more and just be like, yeah, you 2295 01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:05,880 know, Takedown Enemy, you know, or whatever. 2296 01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:08,760 Or don't call this seize by force. 2297 01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:12,120 Call it attacking someone and then aggressive action, 2298 01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,760 aggressive action and then one of the four things underneath it 2299 01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:23,000 could be see something by force. Because only one of like, it's 2300 01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,040 just, this is what I'm talking about. 2301 01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:28,280 Like I do really enjoy this game and it's so frustrating to me 2302 01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:30,200 that the book is so unenjoyable to read. 2303 01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:34,440 Yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty rough, yeah. 2304 01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:38,040 Variations. There's APC versus PC again. 2305 01:57:39,080 --> 01:57:46,600 And yeah, uh, huh. There's single combat which you 2306 01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:49,360 know to do, which is like a duel, you know. 2307 01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:51,240 I do like this one. I do like this one. 2308 01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:52,960 Yeah. Yeah, you're going to roll plus 2309 01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:54,600 hard. Go ahead, Ryan. 2310 01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:56,160 No, no. Yeah, go on. 2311 01:57:56,360 --> 01:58:02,920 OK, you go roll plus hard. Yeah, you're sorry, you're 2312 01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:06,320 exchanging harm. But first roll plus hard. 2313 01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:08,920 On 10 plus both. On the 79, choose one. 2314 01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:12,200 And on a miss your opponent chooses one against you. 2315 01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:15,640 So it's either inflict harm or suffer little harm. 2316 01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:17,800 It's it's either you take a harm or give a harm. 2317 01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:22,760 But it's interesting because on 10 Plus both happen, which I'm 2318 01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:25,800 like, oh OK. Yeah, I I dig that. 2319 01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:28,600 Because you can. Like I roll, you roll, I roll, 2320 01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:33,240 you roll, and like I can. Like any of those things are 2321 01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:35,360 interesting ways to do it. This is like one of my favorite, 2322 01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,320 like moves in the whole game. It's like so simple and 2323 01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:40,440 straightforward and it really makes sense picking one or the 2324 01:58:40,440 --> 01:58:43,040 other and having to be such a small list like I'd like. 2325 01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:48,840 That to me is the basic like attack move, yes, Yeah, it kind 2326 01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:51,040 of way more is actually, you know. 2327 01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:54,680 Yeah. Like, I just want to punch you 2328 01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:56,360 in the fucking face. Like, I just want to shoot you 2329 01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,760 because you're pissing me off. Like it's Apocalypse World. 2330 01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:01,240 Like, I don't always have to have a reason to do my shit, you 2331 01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:08,040 know? Oh, you know, Ryan, that was in 2332 01:59:08,040 --> 01:59:09,800 the bad mood before a show started. 2333 01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:12,120 But we'll going through this with you has been very 2334 01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:15,320 enjoyable. My blood pressure is like 180 2335 01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:18,680 right now. Yeah, so some more, some more 2336 01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:24,040 combat moves. Yeah. 2337 01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:28,240 You have lay down fire, which is kind of like a cover fire 2338 01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:33,480 support fire move, which is is cool. 2339 01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:38,280 You're going to roll plus hard. You have an Overwatch mood, a 2340 01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:42,720 move where you you were standing in Overwatch and you roll plus 2341 01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:48,440 cool for that one and then like on 10 plus you choose one. 2342 01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:55,480 Yeah, keep an eye out. You're you're looking out for 2343 01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:58,120 what's coming. Everything's a move, man. 2344 01:59:58,120 --> 02:00:02,040 I mean, there's so many like, oh, hey, I want to look out for 2345 02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:03,960 for potential enemies. Oh, well, let's keep that's a 2346 02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:07,800 keeping eye out. So. 2347 02:00:08,680 --> 02:00:15,560 But they're all over that. Then you have subterfuge moves. 2348 02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:17,920 Yeah, you can. You can bait a trap. 2349 02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:23,480 You can hunt prey. Escape a hunter. 2350 02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:30,200 You can do PC cat versus PC mouse turn, you can turn the 2351 02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:34,840 tables on somebody, and then you got Rd. war moves. 2352 02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:40,120 Ryan, just in case there weren't enough moves yet. 2353 02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:44,920 There's boarding a vehicle. There's out distancing another 2354 02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:49,280 vehicle, There's overtaking another vehicle, dealing with 2355 02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:54,520 bad terrain, which is a move shouldering another shoulder, 2356 02:00:54,520 --> 02:01:00,720 another vehicle. And then there's like V harm, 2357 02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:04,360 which is like harm to like a, like the vehicle is like massive 2358 02:01:04,360 --> 02:01:11,880 frame and the car's handling. Yeah, and those are all things. 2359 02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:15,040 But don't worry, Ryan. I I know you were worried that 2360 02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:17,040 we were done with moves, but we're not. 2361 02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:21,200 Because next we have character moves and these are all going to 2362 02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:24,360 be character specific moves that we're not going to go through 2363 02:01:24,360 --> 02:01:25,680 because we just really don't need to. 2364 02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:27,360 They're. All listed. 2365 02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:29,760 Yeah, they're all, they're all listed on the sheet. 2366 02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:32,960 Yes, absolutely. They're all on the play sheet. 2367 02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:40,560 They're also all here and that's that's where you're you're on 2368 02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:44,760 182 is where it starts, right for that section. 2369 02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:46,560 I'm just, I'm just looking real quick. 2370 02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:49,320 Yeah. And it ends on 200, so there you 2371 02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:52,520 go. 20 more pages explaining the things that are already listed. 2372 02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:55,400 Yeah, all right. Harm and healing. 2373 02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:57,080 Let's get through this. So this is like the fifth time 2374 02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:58,800 you've seen harm and healing. So let's talk about harm and 2375 02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,320 healings more. How might a character suffer 2376 02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:03,440 harm when the role fucking says it does? 2377 02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:06,160 Because everything is a role. Like I I don't like that's, but 2378 02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:07,680 it's bullet points of of examples. 2379 02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:09,840 How much harm. It's always weapon harm. 2380 02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:12,680 Like minus your armor, that's listed as one of the actual only 2381 02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:14,120 things that's actually corely listed. 2382 02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:17,080 And then it goes into another example. 2383 02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:21,040 But I listed an example just within the text and that's how 2384 02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:24,400 that happens. So it has a list of the type of 2385 02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:28,720 harm that you can do from zero to 5 S like grappling and 2386 02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:30,880 dragging and stuff like that is 0 harm. 2387 02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:34,080 One is like a fist or a punch. Two is a guy with a hammer. 2388 02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:37,080 Three is a guy with a shotgun. 4 is a grenade. 2389 02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:40,400 Five is like a big explosion because at 5 you're basically 2390 02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:44,480 dead. When APC suffers harm things 2391 02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:46,640 happen. So getting shot harm equals the 2392 02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:49,880 inflicters weapon harm minus the suffers armor If the weapon has 2393 02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:53,560 armor piercing, ignore the armor so it really comes down it it 2394 02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:58,840 breaks down a lot of this into like extremely easy mechanic of 2395 02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:03,360 just it's harm it's it's weapon harm minus armor and then that's 2396 02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:05,680 what you get. And then it talks a lot about 2397 02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:08,560 like all the different segments of the clock, which I mean we'll 2398 02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:10,640 we'll we'll get to more clock stuff at some point. 2399 02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:13,720 I think there are hard moves when you suffer harm. 2400 02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:18,320 Suffering harm is a move. So this is different. 2401 02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:24,720 This is different, right? Then actually like doing harm to 2402 02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:27,760 someone from another move. So it's a move that triggers a 2403 02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:29,120 move. So if I if we're in single 2404 02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:32,920 combat and I do harm to you, we can roll, suffer hard, move. 2405 02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:38,680 I actually don't mind this one a little bit because it really 2406 02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:42,280 comes down to adding more unpredictability and stuff to 2407 02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:43,640 like the harm that's actually suffered to you. 2408 02:03:44,040 --> 02:03:46,160 So did you like the list of stuff and like how it can 2409 02:03:46,160 --> 02:03:49,000 narratively interact? But like, I feel like the 2410 02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:51,680 execution leaves a lot to be desired and I feel like maybe 2411 02:03:51,680 --> 02:03:55,360 this, maybe not suffer harm. Like every time. 2412 02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:57,880 I don't know. There's something here for sure, 2413 02:03:57,880 --> 02:03:59,720 yeah. You don't have to do it every 2414 02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:03,920 time, I guess as AGM as an MC. You can do it, but this is the 2415 02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:05,200 interesting thing. When you read, it says when you 2416 02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:07,600 suffer harm, roll plus harm suffered after armor. 2417 02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:11,480 If you're wearing any on A10 plus the MC chooses one, you're 2418 02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:13,840 out of the auction. It's worse than it seemed. 2419 02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:16,960 You choose two on 7 to 9, which is a different list. 2420 02:04:16,960 --> 02:04:19,000 You lose your footing, you lose grip on whatever you're holding. 2421 02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:21,640 On a miss, the MC can nevertheless choose something 2422 02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:24,720 from 7:00 to 9:00 anyway. If she does, though, it's 2423 02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:26,360 instead some of the harm you're suffering. 2424 02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:28,960 So take -1 harm. So like, choose a list of stuff 2425 02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:30,840 you can do on 7:00 to 9:00, but then you can just do stuff 2426 02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:32,960 anyway if you want. Sure. 2427 02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:36,920 So it it, it basically just adds like a little bit of a wrinkle 2428 02:04:37,200 --> 02:04:39,280 to to what's going on. But you know what I would do 2429 02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:43,720 with this is just like tie it into any harm. 2430 02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:45,880 Like you don't have to roll again to do it. 2431 02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:50,600 Like if you got hit with harm on a roll that was between 7:00 and 2432 02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:53,160 9:00, you can just pick two from the seven and nine list. 2433 02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:55,280 If you got OK harm, that's a 10 plus. 2434 02:04:55,480 --> 02:04:57,440 I like that. Pick from the 10 plus list like. 2435 02:04:57,440 --> 02:04:59,600 Just put them together. Why are you rolling a second 2436 02:04:59,600 --> 02:05:04,600 time? Yeah, that's that I like a lot 2437 02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:06,920 more. Yeah. 2438 02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:08,840 It's like, dude, we can eliminate some of these, some of 2439 02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:11,120 these roles especially. It's like so many moves lead to 2440 02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:12,520 other moves that just lead to other. 2441 02:05:12,680 --> 02:05:15,320 Like it's we're just we. Went through the whole 2442 02:05:15,320 --> 02:05:18,080 snowballing move section and like the snowball, it's like 10 2443 02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:19,160 things down. And I'm like, you could just 2444 02:05:19,160 --> 02:05:20,680 eliminate some of those and you could just. 2445 02:05:21,480 --> 02:05:23,640 And if it does take that many, that's fine, cool, whatever. 2446 02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:26,400 But like, I don't know that that there's ways that this can be 2447 02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:29,360 parsed down simpler when life becomes untenable. 2448 02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:31,960 Is the section when the character's countdown hits 12 2449 02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:34,160 midnight, her life becomes untenable. 2450 02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:36,240 So you can choose options and these are on the character 2451 02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:40,200 sheet, but like how they come back and that's the player's 2452 02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:43,720 choice on what they want to do. So like when you hit basically 2453 02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:46,080 you're dying. You can either come back with -1 2454 02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:49,080 hard so you lose some stat you can come back with plus one 2455 02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:52,480 weird to a Max of three. So because if you basically 2456 02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:56,560 close to death, you get weird. Or you can choose a new change 2457 02:05:56,560 --> 02:05:58,920 to a new playbook. Right. 2458 02:05:59,600 --> 02:06:04,400 Or just die, and then you can just choose to die and just do 2459 02:06:04,400 --> 02:06:07,600 something different. So I again, I here's the thing 2460 02:06:07,600 --> 02:06:11,360 about this is like, I don't. It says when life becomes 2461 02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:13,440 untenable, these things happen. This isn't a move. 2462 02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:16,240 Crazy that it's not a move. Maybe it's supposed to be listed 2463 02:06:16,240 --> 02:06:18,800 as a move, but this is just an explanation of a mechanic of the 2464 02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:20,320 game. Crazy that you can explain the 2465 02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:23,000 mechanic of the game without it being sorry Ryan, everything is 2466 02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:24,800 a move, so. Yeah right. 2467 02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:26,840 Everything is a move. It's just it's crazy. 2468 02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:28,760 When an NPC attacks, they inflict harm. 2469 02:06:28,760 --> 02:06:30,880 When NPC suffers harm, guess what? 2470 02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:33,480 They do harm to them. This is an explanation of the 2471 02:06:33,800 --> 02:06:36,320 NPC clock for the countdown clock. 2472 02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:39,400 So basically, I don't know if we've missed the PC countdown 2473 02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:43,440 clock section earlier, but basically it's split into 123456 2474 02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:46,320 segments, right? So but if you actually look at a 2475 02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:48,400 real clock, it's from 12:00 to 3:00. 2476 02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:52,720 So 1/4 of it is your first segment, 3 to 6 is a segment, 2477 02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:56,440 and 6:00 to 9:00 is a segment. So 3/4 of the clock is 1 segment 2478 02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:58,480 each. And then from 9:00 to 12:00, 2479 02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:01,280 it's broken into 123 segments, right? 2480 02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:04,920 And anything prior to 6:00 PM for APC? 2481 02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:08,320 So the first two segments basically just heal with time, 2482 02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:10,560 like, get enough rest that'll go away. 2483 02:07:10,640 --> 02:07:12,880 So it's kind of like just your default 1-2 hit. 2484 02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:16,040 That's fine. Anything after six, like from 2485 02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:18,400 6:00 to 9:00, requires some type of healing. 2486 02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:22,160 And really anything after nine, like, requires healing and 2487 02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:23,320 you're kind of fucked. Yeah. 2488 02:07:23,320 --> 02:07:26,920 And it oh, yeah, it gets worse with time. 2489 02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:30,600 So that's kind of how it works for the PCs, but for NPCS? 2490 02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:35,840 Really, they die potentially by the 2nd segment, so from three 2491 02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:38,360 to six, and definitely by the 3rd segment from 6:00 to 9:00. 2492 02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:40,680 So if they have no armor and you hit them with something that 2493 02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:45,040 does 3 harm, they're just dead. But APC could take up like 5 2494 02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:46,880 harm and theoretically not really be dead. 2495 02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:50,000 I like that once it hits like the 5th segment, they're 2496 02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:54,960 basically or even the even the four segment, they're dead. 2497 02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:57,880 And you're just fucking up their body and like the 5th segment is 2498 02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:00,720 just bodily destruction. So like if you do 6 harm to an 2499 02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:02,880 MPC with no, you basically blow their body to bits. 2500 02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:06,360 So that's that's MPC. What sex move is that? 2501 02:08:07,920 --> 02:08:09,600 That would be probably the Battle Babe sex move. 2502 02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,920 I think it's just the orgasm to oblivion. 2503 02:08:13,600 --> 02:08:17,360 So yeah, and what I just said is explained here a little bit 2504 02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:21,680 more, using a gang as a weapon. And the the size of the gang 2505 02:08:21,680 --> 02:08:23,800 matters. So it's just the way that using 2506 02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:27,040 gang content always matters. Yep, of course, especially in 2507 02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:30,720 this game, it's the sex move. So this one's a little bit 2508 02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:33,560 different because the way the gang suffers harm is really just 2509 02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:35,920 like how many of the gang die and how many are surviving. 2510 02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:38,880 So and that's broken down into the one through 5. 2511 02:08:38,880 --> 02:08:41,280 Harm does gang all together. It's kind of like a morale 2512 02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:43,240 thing. Using a vehicle as a weapon is 2513 02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:46,720 listed here, which is fine, and it talks about the vehicles like 2514 02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:48,920 clock. This is kind of a little bit of 2515 02:08:48,920 --> 02:08:52,040 like. NPC stat block harm kind of 2516 02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:53,840 damage, Vehicle harm is listed here. 2517 02:08:54,120 --> 02:08:57,000 When a building suffers harm, is listed other kinds of harm. 2518 02:08:57,000 --> 02:08:59,240 Psy harm. The symbol right here is Psy in 2519 02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:01,560 the Greek alphabet. So this is psychic harm. 2520 02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:05,680 When you suffer psychic harm, there's a list of things that 2521 02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:08,240 can happen, but a lot of them are very similar to just When 2522 02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:10,320 you suffer any kind of harm, you're out of the action. 2523 02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:12,960 Like you know you're you lose track of something. 2524 02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:14,880 It's pretty much the same. It's just psy harm. 2525 02:09:15,080 --> 02:09:17,160 But then we get to things like S harm and D harm. 2526 02:09:17,480 --> 02:09:19,520 Hey, do me a favor. Roll hard for D harm. 2527 02:09:22,840 --> 02:09:27,760 Like I don't understand the reason for this. 2528 02:09:27,760 --> 02:09:32,800 Like's harm means stun, D harm means deprivation. 2529 02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:37,040 Just say harm that stuns them, harm that deprives them. 2530 02:09:37,400 --> 02:09:41,800 Like D harm air D harm warmth D harm cool is heat stroke, copper 2531 02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:44,800 thermia asphyxiation. I just, I, I, I just think that 2532 02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:47,960 sound like there's this weird influx of letters 219 pages in 2533 02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:51,240 you know and then we get to it is interesting how it really 2534 02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:53,280 clicks on suddenly here it's like. 2535 02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:56,440 And if this is that important, again, harm and healing should 2536 02:09:56,440 --> 02:09:58,000 be way earlier in the book. It's a it's. 2537 02:09:58,040 --> 02:10:01,600 It's a Realistically, kind of, again, a core thing is just. 2538 02:10:02,240 --> 02:10:05,520 If you've taken harm and if you're alive, you know it's it's 2539 02:10:05,520 --> 02:10:09,720 funny how like the arc of my caring about this has really 2540 02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:13,520 where where we are in this book. It's like, man, at this point 2541 02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:15,760 I'm like, God, I don't, I don't care about these rules at all, 2542 02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:16,200 man. And. 2543 02:10:17,160 --> 02:10:19,280 What's crazy is we're two hours and 20 minutes in and we haven't 2544 02:10:19,280 --> 02:10:25,400 read 80% of the words I know. Yeah, so. 2545 02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:28,200 Yeah, healing by an Angel. It talked about the Angel's kit 2546 02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:30,600 and everything. They use it to stabilize and 2547 02:10:30,600 --> 02:10:31,880 heal someone. At 9:00 or past. 2548 02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:34,240 You have to roll plus stock because it's the stock you have 2549 02:10:34,240 --> 02:10:36,240 in your kit that you can use to heal people. 2550 02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:39,920 And then based on what you roll, you get to choose like one or 2551 02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:41,280 two different things. I do think this is really 2552 02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:44,560 interesting. So like the list is like they 2553 02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:46,400 fight you and you have to narco stab them. 2554 02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:50,480 How long will they be out? I like that the pain and drugs 2555 02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:52,520 make them Babble the truth to you. 2556 02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:55,960 Ask them what secret they spill. This is what I feel like moves 2557 02:10:55,960 --> 02:10:59,560 should all be like, right? Like things that are just basic 2558 02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:02,800 mechanics just be basic. Mechanics, yeah. 2559 02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:06,240 But things that are like moves should be this kind of narrative 2560 02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:08,360 thing. But again, a basic mechanic 2561 02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:10,040 should just be explained as a basic mechanic. 2562 02:11:10,160 --> 02:11:13,800 Like harm to me is just, but you just roll a stat and do fucking 2563 02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:15,520 harm. That's a basic mechanic of the 2564 02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:16,800 game. It doesn't have to be a move. 2565 02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:19,480 A move to me is this exact thing. 2566 02:11:19,640 --> 02:11:22,720 Choose a thing like they respond well to treatment. 2567 02:11:22,720 --> 02:11:25,200 Recover one stock. They're at your complete mercy. 2568 02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:27,520 What do you do to them? It's creating these narrative 2569 02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:29,680 things going forward. It's open-ended. 2570 02:11:30,640 --> 02:11:33,040 Yeah, it's not just like B happens. 2571 02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:35,640 So B happens to like. I mean like. 2572 02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:39,560 Again, I didn't make PBTA. This is the game that started 2573 02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:40,680 it. I just think it's one of the 2574 02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:46,680 worst PBTA I've ever read. If there's no Angel, no healing, 2575 02:11:46,760 --> 02:11:48,680 you're shit out of luck. That's what it says. 2576 02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:51,280 There's a particular NPC medic. They can do it. 2577 02:11:52,040 --> 02:11:57,360 There's an NPC medic, like whatever gear and crap, OK, you 2578 02:11:57,360 --> 02:11:59,120 can barter. That's the thing that you can do 2579 02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:00,840 if you want to. There's a move for it. 2580 02:12:04,200 --> 02:12:06,720 Descriptive tags. I'm not a huge fan of tags. 2581 02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:09,320 I think people enjoy them. I again, I feel like it's it. 2582 02:12:09,320 --> 02:12:12,440 It provides too much structure. Or I maybe it's just even just 2583 02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:13,760 like I don't like the way they're written. 2584 02:12:13,760 --> 02:12:15,400 I don't even really like the word tag. 2585 02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:21,760 But here's my thing is I like tags and there are two minions. 2586 02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:23,400 Yes. Yes. 2587 02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:25,360 Oh my God, yes, there's just too many. 2588 02:12:25,720 --> 02:12:28,680 Like, yeah, I don't understand how I'm supposed to know. 2589 02:12:28,680 --> 02:12:30,560 Like I know we're supposed to use reference sheets, but here's 2590 02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:32,840 the thing once again. If I'm playing a game that I 2591 02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:37,400 have to stare down at to read a script from to like look to see 2592 02:12:37,400 --> 02:12:41,080 the 10 moves that I have with my 6 stats and my 20 tags, when am 2593 02:12:41,080 --> 02:12:44,160 I playing the game? It sure seems like everyone 2594 02:12:44,160 --> 02:12:48,000 needs their own like GM screen for this, you know? 2595 02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:51,800 I want to hold players though my player book is 4 pages long. 2596 02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:54,960 I know as I'm saying like it's you could just every single 2597 02:12:55,120 --> 02:12:58,560 player character has their own GM screen of just like here's 2598 02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:01,680 the stats, here's what I can do here what tags means, you know. 2599 02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:04,120 Here's my basic move and here's my character specific. 2600 02:13:04,120 --> 02:13:06,160 Where's the Here's my special and peripheral moves. 2601 02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:09,600 Yeah, it's just so. Anyway, so the way tags work, I 2602 02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:11,160 don't mind this. I feel like this is more 2603 02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:13,520 mechanical. Which finally, thank God, 2604 02:13:14,120 --> 02:13:16,160 writing A tag is not a move, except that everything is a 2605 02:13:16,160 --> 02:13:18,280 move. So basically it says this is the 2606 02:13:18,280 --> 02:13:20,360 way the tags work. There's three categories, right? 2607 02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:24,040 So in the listings that follow you have plus parentheses tag. 2608 02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:26,760 Like valuable, infinite or whatever means you simply. 2609 02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:28,200 No, no, no, no, no. Let me get to it. 2610 02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:32,880 So first, the plain mechanical second constraints on when the 2611 02:13:32,880 --> 02:13:36,360 characters can use them, and 3rd cues recommending something for 2612 02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:40,000 you to say about them. So let's just look at an example 2613 02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:43,480 and we'll say that so and then we'll come back to some of this 2614 02:13:43,480 --> 02:13:45,400 other stuff that just drives me up the goddamn wall. 2615 02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:47,720 So for example, if you look at a. 2616 02:13:50,200 --> 02:13:51,960 A big knife. No, no. 2617 02:13:52,360 --> 02:13:55,480 Let's say a revolver, right? It's to harm. 2618 02:13:55,520 --> 02:14:00,280 So harm is listed first, Then you have close, reload and loud. 2619 02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:03,560 Those are the three tags. And in the order of the way that 2620 02:14:03,560 --> 02:14:05,640 you can understand what those tags mean. 2621 02:14:05,840 --> 02:14:08,880 This is something that I think is kind of like you get pretty 2622 02:14:08,880 --> 02:14:10,040 quickly. This is one of the ones where 2623 02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:12,280 I'm like, OK, I get it. So the first is mechanical. 2624 02:14:12,400 --> 02:14:14,920 So close is a mechanical thing. You can only use it when you're 2625 02:14:14,920 --> 02:14:17,360 close. The second is reload. 2626 02:14:17,360 --> 02:14:19,480 It's a constraint on what the character can do, which means it 2627 02:14:19,480 --> 02:14:22,560 requires you to reload it. And the third is the queue, 2628 02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:25,240 which recommends something about what you say about it or how it 2629 02:14:25,240 --> 02:14:26,320 goes. And it's loud. 2630 02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:30,280 So mechanical, the constraint. And the queue pretty much 2631 02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:33,920 narratively on how it works. So again you get close reload, 2632 02:14:33,920 --> 02:14:36,080 loud. I don't mind that I'm OK with 2633 02:14:36,080 --> 02:14:37,400 that. I like that it's got a little 2634 02:14:37,400 --> 02:14:39,080 bit of a structure to it. Yeah. 2635 02:14:39,680 --> 02:14:43,920 But here's my not favorite part is all of the fucking tags that 2636 02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:47,040 go with it. Like range tags in armor plus in 2637 02:14:47,040 --> 02:14:49,880 armor in minus armor plus in armor plus minus plus in choice. 2638 02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:54,080 Alive AP 80 applied area, auto fire braced, close, close, far 2639 02:14:54,280 --> 02:14:58,160 in placed far hand. High tech, implanted, infinite 2640 02:14:58,280 --> 02:15:00,800 intimate. Loud, messy, Refill, reload, 2641 02:15:00,800 --> 02:15:04,120 Remote Sr. slow tag, valuable, worn, implanted. 2642 02:15:04,680 --> 02:15:07,800 It's 3 pages of tags and I know they're not always going to be 2643 02:15:07,800 --> 02:15:10,600 applicable, but like I just feel like a lot of that can just be 2644 02:15:10,600 --> 02:15:13,280 constrained down and then just given a little bit of context to 2645 02:15:13,280 --> 02:15:16,280 separate them a little bit. I even think like getting rid of 2646 02:15:16,280 --> 02:15:19,800 like a list of tags and making a more open-ended things like hey 2647 02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:23,600 each weapon's going to have these tags like a like like you 2648 02:15:23,640 --> 02:15:27,440 the in the order you said. You're like 4 examples of each 2649 02:15:27,440 --> 02:15:29,720 where we normally would put with these weapons, but your table 2650 02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:32,800 can decide like its own tags for its own weapon and what that 2651 02:15:32,800 --> 02:15:33,760 means right? Like. 2652 02:15:34,680 --> 02:15:36,560 Yeah, but here's the other thing too, right? 2653 02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:40,000 So this whole book is, again, contextual examples. 2654 02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:43,040 But when you actually need examples, it's not explained at 2655 02:15:43,040 --> 02:15:44,400 all. Like at all. 2656 02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:47,440 So for example, there are like 50 fucking tags we just went 2657 02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:49,720 over, right? And then you get to a section of 2658 02:15:49,720 --> 02:15:52,280 weapons and armor that talks about common firearms and other 2659 02:15:52,280 --> 02:15:55,080 common weapons, and there's an entirety of maybe like. 2660 02:15:55,560 --> 02:15:58,800 Five of those fifty tags, There's no explanation of like a 2661 02:15:58,800 --> 02:16:01,240 more complex tag, you know what I mean? 2662 02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:04,200 There's not like anything that talks to me about there's like 2663 02:16:04,200 --> 02:16:07,040 one that uses infinite, but there's nothing that's like, 2664 02:16:07,160 --> 02:16:09,400 give me something that's like reload, remote slow. 2665 02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:11,520 You know, there's none of like, well, reload, yeah, but you know 2666 02:16:11,520 --> 02:16:12,720 what I mean? Like it basically everything 2667 02:16:12,720 --> 02:16:15,760 comes out to harm a distance. And if it's loud or quiet, and 2668 02:16:16,560 --> 02:16:19,040 that's pretty much it. Armor. 2669 02:16:19,360 --> 02:16:20,840 It exists. Fashion Armor. 2670 02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:28,160 It gives you one or. Two, armor is more serious, and 2671 02:16:28,160 --> 02:16:29,960 three, armor is basically a fucking bomb suit. 2672 02:16:30,160 --> 02:16:31,000 That's it. There you go. 2673 02:16:31,000 --> 02:16:32,760 That's armor. And guess what? 2674 02:16:32,760 --> 02:16:34,959 It reduces. It reduces incoming damage. 2675 02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:37,760 There you go. It gives you a whole way to do 2676 02:16:37,760 --> 02:16:39,360 custom firearms and how to build them. 2677 02:16:39,360 --> 02:16:42,440 Which, guess what, this is all on the playbook sheets. 2678 02:16:43,080 --> 02:16:44,480 I don't understand. That's another thing that's on 2679 02:16:44,480 --> 02:16:47,320 the playbook sheet, like for every character is like how to 2680 02:16:47,320 --> 02:16:49,120 set, how to build a custom firearm. 2681 02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:51,719 It seems like a weird optional thing. 2682 02:16:51,959 --> 02:16:54,760 There's specialty gear. Which is like kits. 2683 02:16:55,080 --> 02:16:59,760 And so then, guess what we do for all the specialty gear is 2684 02:16:59,760 --> 02:17:01,639 Yep, that's right. We list them for every 2685 02:17:01,639 --> 02:17:04,360 individual character instead of just being in a character 2686 02:17:04,360 --> 02:17:06,719 section. Not, not. 2687 02:17:07,080 --> 02:17:10,000 And not everyone has one, right? You got Angel gear, brainer 2688 02:17:10,000 --> 02:17:13,559 gear, Lux gear, bikes, cars, things we've gone over a bunch 2689 02:17:13,559 --> 02:17:16,799 of times already. Battle vehicles, I can tell you 2690 02:17:16,799 --> 02:17:18,680 right now, I think this game is getting a high score. 2691 02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:22,080 A whole section on prosthetics here. 2692 02:17:22,719 --> 02:17:24,639 Different than the prosthetic section we went over earlier, 2693 02:17:24,639 --> 02:17:26,400 but exactly the same it literally. 2694 02:17:26,400 --> 02:17:31,559 I'm pretty sure they just copy pasted it, Workspaces, whatever. 2695 02:17:31,600 --> 02:17:33,520 I'm not even worried about it. Gangs. 2696 02:17:33,520 --> 02:17:35,200 Descriptive tags for gangs and how they work. 2697 02:17:35,520 --> 02:17:37,280 That's not in the gang section. Earlier when we talked about 2698 02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:41,400 gangs, oh, that's not in the gang section. 2699 02:17:41,400 --> 02:17:44,080 Earlier that's. So weird, using gang as a 2700 02:17:44,080 --> 02:17:45,559 weapon. I don't know because it's under 2701 02:17:45,559 --> 02:17:46,879 a healing and harm section earlier. 2702 02:17:46,879 --> 02:17:48,200 But we're not. We're talking about gang as a 2703 02:17:48,200 --> 02:17:49,840 gang completely. This is what I'm talking about. 2704 02:17:50,120 --> 02:17:52,680 There is no thing where I can go to and say, OK, how do gangs 2705 02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:54,040 work? Go to the gang section. 2706 02:17:54,240 --> 02:17:56,559 I have to go to four or five different sections to get the 2707 02:17:56,559 --> 02:17:59,799 contextual understanding of the entirety of how gangs work. 2708 02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:02,520 This is what I'm talking about. Like it just it makes my brain 2709 02:18:02,520 --> 02:18:04,200 hurt so bad. Creating a gang is a threat. 2710 02:18:04,719 --> 02:18:07,639 Maybe in the threat section when we talked about gangs, it's in 2711 02:18:07,639 --> 02:18:08,320 there. It's not. 2712 02:18:09,040 --> 02:18:12,600 Surplus and one I don't know. Followers, holdings and 2713 02:18:12,600 --> 02:18:13,959 establishments. They exist. 2714 02:18:15,840 --> 02:18:17,879 Hard holders holding their wealth and all the things that 2715 02:18:17,879 --> 02:18:19,280 can come from that. Cool. 2716 02:18:19,280 --> 02:18:20,799 It's down here in gear and crap, which is fine. 2717 02:18:20,799 --> 02:18:22,120 It can also be in the hard holders section. 2718 02:18:22,480 --> 02:18:25,559 This one is like 6-7, eight fucking pages long for 2719 02:18:25,559 --> 02:18:27,120 establishing that and all the things you can get from it. 2720 02:18:27,480 --> 02:18:28,400 That's fine. Whatever. 2721 02:18:29,280 --> 02:18:30,959 Improvement. Last really important part of 2722 02:18:30,959 --> 02:18:32,639 the game. Prescriptive and descriptive, 2723 02:18:32,959 --> 02:18:33,879 right? So. 2724 02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:38,000 Prescriptive. It changes the character's sheet 2725 02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:39,760 meaning. It changes the character's 2726 02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:42,480 fictional circumstances and capabilities, right? 2727 02:18:42,840 --> 02:18:45,400 That's the game's experience and improvement rules, right? 2728 02:18:45,400 --> 02:18:48,280 Descriptive. When the character's fictional 2729 02:18:48,280 --> 02:18:50,480 circumstances or capabilities change naturally within the 2730 02:18:50,480 --> 02:18:52,920 character's fix in the world, the player can and should change 2731 02:18:52,920 --> 02:18:54,639 your character sheet to match. I love this section. 2732 02:18:54,639 --> 02:18:56,920 This is a great fucking section. This is really interesting. 2733 02:18:57,080 --> 02:18:58,959 I really enjoy it. The examples here are actually 2734 02:18:58,959 --> 02:19:03,160 really good. So, for example, it says Bran 2735 02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:06,680 bolts a machine gun to his Jeep. I tell us players at Stats, you 2736 02:19:06,719 --> 02:19:09,639 actually have changed the game and changed mechanically and 2737 02:19:09,639 --> 02:19:13,480 narratively, the game, the the holding takes in refugees, and 2738 02:19:13,480 --> 02:19:16,320 some of them naturally gravitate to Keeler's gang, doubling in 2739 02:19:16,320 --> 02:19:18,639 size. I tell Keeler's player to change 2740 02:19:18,639 --> 02:19:22,360 the game from small to medium, narrative and mechanical, 2741 02:19:22,480 --> 02:19:25,120 prescriptive and descriptive. I like that it's a mechanic. 2742 02:19:25,240 --> 02:19:28,559 It's not a move. Fair's fair. 2743 02:19:28,559 --> 02:19:30,719 Fair's fair, though. Keeler hits her. 2744 02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:32,920 Fuck this shit. Roll with a 7 to 9 and I tell 2745 02:19:32,920 --> 02:19:35,400 her she can ditch out. But she'll have to leave her new 2746 02:19:35,400 --> 02:19:37,639 bike behind. She's easy come, easy go. 2747 02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:41,320 I, I again, I really like that. Like there's goods and bads with 2748 02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:43,920 like the decision that you make and with your improvement and 2749 02:19:43,920 --> 02:19:47,959 things like that, so that you can change a lot of the things 2750 02:19:47,959 --> 02:19:51,000 that are affecting your players, your hard hold or if you decide 2751 02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:53,520 to just leave your hold, that's a huge thing, right? 2752 02:19:54,400 --> 02:19:56,720 Experience. So a player marks experience 2753 02:19:56,720 --> 02:19:58,480 when she rolls a highlighted stat. 2754 02:19:58,800 --> 02:20:01,800 Her history when someone resets or a move tells her to, which 2755 02:20:01,800 --> 02:20:03,080 we've talked about numerous times already. 2756 02:20:03,080 --> 02:20:05,320 I'm OK with it being here, but this is the only place it should 2757 02:20:05,320 --> 02:20:09,160 be. Mm hmm, not going over that 2758 02:20:09,160 --> 02:20:11,320 changing highlighted stats. Remember when I talked to you 2759 02:20:11,320 --> 02:20:18,120 about what was that page number? 160 something. 163 OK, you see 2760 02:20:18,120 --> 02:20:20,720 this section changing a highlighted stats at the 2761 02:20:20,720 --> 02:20:22,560 beginning of any session it starts. 2762 02:20:22,720 --> 02:20:25,960 The last line is Gee, what a pal. 2763 02:20:27,880 --> 02:20:31,320 All right. Let's go to page 163. 2764 02:20:31,320 --> 02:20:35,440 Is it the exact same thing? At the beginning of any session. 2765 02:20:35,960 --> 02:20:40,360 Gee, what a pal. It's literally copy pasted 3/4 2766 02:20:40,360 --> 02:20:42,320 of a page from one section to another section. 2767 02:20:42,360 --> 02:20:45,040 That's that's actually crazy. Like at least with the other 2768 02:20:45,040 --> 02:20:47,800 stuff that's duplicated, you're like, OK, I it's slightly 2769 02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:49,960 different, I guess that. I mean, that's not good, but 2770 02:20:50,320 --> 02:20:52,120 it's the same. It's. 2771 02:20:52,120 --> 02:20:54,040 Explained in a different way at least. 2772 02:20:54,040 --> 02:20:56,080 Or addresses it slightly, but you don't need to address it 2773 02:20:56,080 --> 02:20:58,080 four times. But it's literally just copy 2774 02:20:58,080 --> 02:21:00,360 paste it 3/4 of a page from one section to another section. 2775 02:21:00,600 --> 02:21:02,640 Weird dude. What? 2776 02:21:03,200 --> 02:21:06,720 Just say You can find it here on page 163. 2777 02:21:06,720 --> 02:21:09,360 If you're talking about that, just say you can find it here. 2778 02:21:09,360 --> 02:21:12,600 There's already so many indexes and hyperlinks, inline 2779 02:21:12,600 --> 02:21:14,520 hyperlinks to other sections and things like that. 2780 02:21:14,960 --> 02:21:18,440 Why have the literally the same words filling 3/4 of a page on 2781 02:21:18,440 --> 02:21:20,520 two separate pages? Like that is the that is the 2782 02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:22,840 epitome of what drives me nuts about this book. 2783 02:21:24,280 --> 02:21:26,680 Character improvement. You fill 5 circles, you improve, 2784 02:21:26,680 --> 02:21:29,680 the improvements are listed on on each player's character 2785 02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:31,960 sheet, you get more stuff that happens. 2786 02:21:33,200 --> 02:21:35,280 Retiring a character is fun and interesting though. 2787 02:21:35,280 --> 02:21:37,240 I do really like this whole section. 2788 02:21:37,440 --> 02:21:40,040 So basically retiring a character means put them in 2789 02:21:40,040 --> 02:21:42,680 safety for multiple reasons, as in like they can still remain an 2790 02:21:42,680 --> 02:21:46,200 NPC in the world, and basically. Like if you choose if you get to 2791 02:21:46,200 --> 02:21:48,800 1 where you can retire character, they are in safety, 2792 02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:51,400 which means that they're not just going to be killed off for 2793 02:21:51,400 --> 02:21:56,120 a story beat by the by the MC, and the MC is not going to 2794 02:21:56,120 --> 02:21:58,880 suddenly turn them evil or do some like random shit with them 2795 02:21:59,280 --> 02:22:01,280 just because it's fun or interesting like the character 2796 02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:03,080 is safe. You can retire the character 2797 02:22:03,080 --> 02:22:05,640 safely, knowing that this person you've invested all this time 2798 02:22:05,640 --> 02:22:07,840 and effort into is going to live in the world. 2799 02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:09,800 With what they were doing. And that's fine. 2800 02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:12,600 I like that reassurance within the system to just be like, OK, 2801 02:22:12,600 --> 02:22:14,080 you retired the character, suddenly it's mine. 2802 02:22:14,080 --> 02:22:16,160 So I'm just going to murder him. No, because I would have just 2803 02:22:16,160 --> 02:22:18,120 kept them and I could change the consequences of it. 2804 02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:19,800 So if you really get to the point where you're tired of 2805 02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:21,640 character, they can just live in the world. 2806 02:22:21,680 --> 02:22:24,560 They can even NBC you go back to and you're just, they're just 2807 02:22:24,560 --> 02:22:27,080 going to be left alone. And I like also just throwing 2808 02:22:27,080 --> 02:22:28,840 this out there. If you're playing a game and 2809 02:22:28,840 --> 02:22:31,280 you're in in a different game and you want to retire a 2810 02:22:31,280 --> 02:22:35,040 character and you're game master, is like, yeah, I fucking 2811 02:22:35,040 --> 02:22:36,960 killed them or now they're the bad guy. 2812 02:22:36,960 --> 02:22:39,120 Without talking to you about it, your game master's a Dick. 2813 02:22:39,560 --> 02:22:40,720 Yeah, play a different game Master. 2814 02:22:42,360 --> 02:22:44,600 That guy's an asshole. The best way to deal with 2815 02:22:44,640 --> 02:22:47,880 problem players and and GMs you don't like is don't play with 2816 02:22:47,880 --> 02:22:48,800 them anymore. I hate. 2817 02:22:48,880 --> 02:22:51,280 I mean hey, that's been my method, so. 2818 02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:54,920 Here's an essay on how to deal with problem players Don't. 2819 02:22:55,160 --> 02:22:58,160 End of essay, all right. Playing two characters? 2820 02:22:58,160 --> 02:22:59,560 I don't mind this. Basically that's one of the 2821 02:22:59,560 --> 02:23:02,800 options that you can do when you when you hit your Max, you can 2822 02:23:02,800 --> 02:23:05,240 play AS2. And says why not MCS play with 2823 02:23:05,240 --> 02:23:07,080 like 30. If the player character wants 2824 02:23:07,080 --> 02:23:09,240 two or three or four or five go for it. 2825 02:23:10,520 --> 02:23:15,160 And they they choose new or they choose new histories, they do 2826 02:23:15,160 --> 02:23:16,680 all of that. You can change your character 2827 02:23:16,680 --> 02:23:18,240 type, which is another thing I really like. 2828 02:23:18,400 --> 02:23:22,600 So basically, for example, the player keeps her old character 2829 02:23:22,600 --> 02:23:25,120 book for reference and transfers her character into the new 2830 02:23:25,120 --> 02:23:27,080 playbook. So you keep everything intrinsic 2831 02:23:27,080 --> 02:23:29,520 to yourself, which is your stats, your moves, everything, 2832 02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:31,840 your improvements, all the things you leave behind. 2833 02:23:31,840 --> 02:23:33,320 Everything belong to your old life. 2834 02:23:33,520 --> 02:23:36,360 So, for example, if a hard holder becomes a driver, she 2835 02:23:36,360 --> 02:23:37,440 leaves. Everything that has to do, 2836 02:23:37,440 --> 02:23:40,120 they're holding behind. And then you get everything 2837 02:23:40,120 --> 02:23:41,880 belonging to your new life. So if you do become a driver, 2838 02:23:41,880 --> 02:23:45,200 you get a car. So I I really, really love that. 2839 02:23:45,200 --> 02:23:48,040 Where you just be like, OK, I've improved to the point, but I 2840 02:23:48,040 --> 02:23:49,240 want to do something totally different. 2841 02:23:49,560 --> 02:23:51,320 I'm going to suddenly become an Angel. 2842 02:23:51,480 --> 02:23:53,120 So I've learned how to become a medic. 2843 02:23:53,280 --> 02:23:57,760 I leave my Maestro D sex club behind and I become an Angel 2844 02:23:57,760 --> 02:23:58,800 because I want to go help people. 2845 02:23:58,840 --> 02:24:00,440 I want to heal all the syphilis that I spread. 2846 02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:03,480 You know that that. To that. 2847 02:24:03,520 --> 02:24:05,160 I really like that as a mechanic. 2848 02:24:05,160 --> 02:24:11,800 I like that advancing moves. It's a thing that can be done. 2849 02:24:12,040 --> 02:24:14,840 Yeah, sticks of the moves that you do. 2850 02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:16,800 This is interesting. It's interesting. 2851 02:24:16,800 --> 02:24:18,280 I don't know how I feel about this one. 2852 02:24:18,320 --> 02:24:20,080 Of all the things that I'd like and dislike, I don't know how I 2853 02:24:20,080 --> 02:24:22,920 feel about this one. One of the things you can do is 2854 02:24:22,920 --> 02:24:27,200 advance three moves as a move when you hit your Max 2855 02:24:27,200 --> 02:24:29,880 improvement right, or when you get to the the the five, or 2856 02:24:29,880 --> 02:24:32,240 whatever. There's six total you can do, so 2857 02:24:32,240 --> 02:24:34,600 you can do that move twice. You can choose three, then can 2858 02:24:34,600 --> 02:24:36,760 choose the other three. So six out of the 10 can be 2859 02:24:36,760 --> 02:24:40,760 advanced, and basically what that means is 12 plus. 2860 02:24:40,760 --> 02:24:44,160 Basically you can create on 12 plus now, so it's the same 2861 02:24:44,160 --> 02:24:45,520 thing. So for example, doing something 2862 02:24:45,520 --> 02:24:49,760 on a fire works all the same way it did but now on a 12 plus. 2863 02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:52,520 You transcend the danger, the pressure, the possibility of 2864 02:24:52,520 --> 02:24:54,440 harm. You do what you set out to do, 2865 02:24:54,440 --> 02:24:57,320 and the MC will offer you a better outcome, true beauty or a 2866 02:24:57,320 --> 02:24:59,840 moment of grace. So basically, once you reach Max 2867 02:24:59,840 --> 02:25:02,640 improvement, you can choose a move where you make you give 2868 02:25:02,640 --> 02:25:07,360 crits to three moves, and then you can choose that again to 2869 02:25:07,360 --> 02:25:10,160 give crits to three other moves, for a total of 6 of the 10 moves 2870 02:25:10,160 --> 02:25:12,040 you can now crit on. And it basically makes 2871 02:25:12,040 --> 02:25:13,320 everything great and golden for you. 2872 02:25:14,160 --> 02:25:15,880 That's interesting. I like that. 2873 02:25:15,880 --> 02:25:17,800 I do like that. You know what thing What I like 2874 02:25:17,800 --> 02:25:20,720 about this section more than anything is it's all mechanics, 2875 02:25:20,960 --> 02:25:23,800 yeah. Explained as if they are 2876 02:25:23,800 --> 02:25:26,880 mechanics. Notice how concise these are. 2877 02:25:26,880 --> 02:25:31,480 Bolds italic explanations. A quick example and then moving 2878 02:25:31,480 --> 02:25:34,640 on to the next thing. This is one of my favorite 2879 02:25:34,640 --> 02:25:36,480 sections in the game is the improvement section because it 2880 02:25:36,480 --> 02:25:38,520 really just tells me what I need to do and how to do it. 2881 02:25:39,880 --> 02:25:45,200 And advanced fuckery. You know what? 2882 02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:51,480 I don't even, I don't even care. It's just it's just, it's just, 2883 02:25:51,960 --> 02:25:53,200 it's just there's just other moves. 2884 02:25:53,200 --> 02:25:55,520 It's just random other moves. It's just a bunch of random 2885 02:25:55,520 --> 02:25:57,720 other moves. That's that's what it comes down 2886 02:25:57,720 --> 02:26:00,360 to. There's different different 2887 02:26:00,520 --> 02:26:01,960 character types that you can make. 2888 02:26:01,960 --> 02:26:03,520 There's love letters that can be read. 2889 02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:05,040 These are all just like random ass moves. 2890 02:26:05,040 --> 02:26:09,760 That's what it comes down to. Powered by the apocalypse. 2891 02:26:09,760 --> 02:26:12,520 There's all section here of other people's moves for others 2892 02:26:12,520 --> 02:26:16,320 games brought into this. So Ben Ray used Apocalypse World 2893 02:26:16,320 --> 02:26:18,040 in a zombie game. So here's a move that they used. 2894 02:26:18,040 --> 02:26:24,080 So these are examples of non apocalypse world moves for moves 2895 02:26:24,280 --> 02:26:28,760 and I I like so much of these better than moves in a game 2896 02:26:29,440 --> 02:26:32,120 because most of them are special moves or or powers or things 2897 02:26:32,120 --> 02:26:34,320 like that versus the basic moves of the game. 2898 02:26:34,320 --> 02:26:35,600 And I've said this over and over again. 2899 02:26:35,920 --> 02:26:40,880 I hate the basic moves. I like special moves or powers 2900 02:26:40,880 --> 02:26:43,280 or things like that. A good example of 1 is literally 2901 02:26:43,280 --> 02:26:47,880 like There's one that's literally like cast a spell, 2902 02:26:48,400 --> 02:26:51,160 right Magic use cast a spell. Tony Dowler, right. 2903 02:26:51,160 --> 02:26:54,880 Apocalypse World based dungeon crawler magic user cast a spell, 2904 02:26:54,960 --> 02:26:56,960 User intelligence. Arcane magic comes from the use 2905 02:26:56,960 --> 02:26:59,080 of formula ritual or the magic user's own life force. 2906 02:26:59,360 --> 02:27:02,480 Roll on a 7 to 9, choose one. On A10 choose two. 2907 02:27:02,840 --> 02:27:05,120 The spell is not forgotten. The spell is a powerful effect, 2908 02:27:05,120 --> 02:27:07,360 so you maximize your dice. The spell has a large effect, so 2909 02:27:07,360 --> 02:27:09,840 W range, duration, or number affected, and the spell does not 2910 02:27:09,840 --> 02:27:10,920 misfire. Those are your options. 2911 02:27:11,080 --> 02:27:14,640 That is using it as a power, as something that directly affects 2912 02:27:14,640 --> 02:27:17,640 the situation that you're currently in with with clear 2913 02:27:17,640 --> 02:27:22,200 narrative like and input and then things outside of of the 2914 02:27:22,200 --> 02:27:22,840 things. Again. 2915 02:27:22,840 --> 02:27:25,360 It's not just like I want to do like a basic thing that would 2916 02:27:25,360 --> 02:27:27,520 run run behind a wall or whatever, so I have to have all 2917 02:27:27,520 --> 02:27:28,960 of these things. It's just. 2918 02:27:29,720 --> 02:27:34,400 So many of these, in my opinion, are used better in the game that 2919 02:27:34,400 --> 02:27:36,640 they're talking about. It talks about the moves 2920 02:27:36,640 --> 02:27:40,680 architecture. So we're 281 pages in and it is 2921 02:27:40,680 --> 02:27:42,840 now telling us how a move is put together. 2922 02:27:48,080 --> 02:27:50,400 OK, you. See why I'm frustrated people 2923 02:27:50,400 --> 02:27:51,520 here? Here's a quick look at the 2924 02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:53,160 structure of Apocalypse World move. 2925 02:27:53,960 --> 02:27:56,240 I don't understand why after basic moves it doesn't go 2926 02:27:56,240 --> 02:27:59,200 directly into moves. And this isn't the first part of 2927 02:27:59,200 --> 02:28:03,080 the move section where it tells you the structure of how the 2928 02:28:03,080 --> 02:28:06,280 mechanic of how a move actually works and how they're built. 2929 02:28:07,640 --> 02:28:14,920 It says you do stuff and then you do some other stuff. 2930 02:28:14,920 --> 02:28:18,520 I mean the the the all moves take the form of win, blank then 2931 02:28:18,520 --> 02:28:22,120 blank. Why is that not one of the very 2932 02:28:22,120 --> 02:28:23,280 first things written in the entire book? 2933 02:28:23,440 --> 02:28:24,760 The whole thing, everything is a move. 2934 02:28:24,920 --> 02:28:27,160 So let me tell you how moves work on one of the last pages of 2935 02:28:27,160 --> 02:28:31,640 the game. Like so for example, when the 2936 02:28:31,640 --> 02:28:37,080 character acts, then roll right, when circumstances dictate 2937 02:28:37,480 --> 02:28:40,680 right, then activate something's tag. 2938 02:28:42,120 --> 02:28:44,360 This would have been really helpful forever ago. 2939 02:28:45,840 --> 02:28:48,240 And this is under the advanced section, Advanced of all 2940 02:28:48,240 --> 02:28:49,440 sections. Why is this under the MC 2941 02:28:49,440 --> 02:28:52,160 section? I know that's what I was 2942 02:28:52,160 --> 02:28:54,520 thinking. Like why would it be here and 2943 02:28:54,520 --> 02:28:56,840 not? I mean, it was like so much of 2944 02:28:56,840 --> 02:28:58,160 this book. I'm like, why isn't this in the 2945 02:28:58,160 --> 02:29:00,000 MC section? Also, why isn't the MC section 2946 02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:02,560 in the back of the book right before? 2947 02:29:03,000 --> 02:29:05,160 Yeah, anyway. Ludiography. 2948 02:29:05,200 --> 02:29:07,040 I like this. This is a great thing that that 2949 02:29:07,040 --> 02:29:08,640 that Vincent Baker does. I think with a lot of their 2950 02:29:08,640 --> 02:29:10,000 stuff. It really talks about like 2951 02:29:10,200 --> 02:29:12,640 everything involved with the situation, the play testers. 2952 02:29:12,640 --> 02:29:14,840 Again, if you notice, Adam Coble is like the first one on here. 2953 02:29:14,840 --> 02:29:16,800 He literally is one of the dudes that wrote freaking Dungel 2954 02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:18,840 World, which is one of the first ones. 2955 02:29:20,800 --> 02:29:23,800 John Harper is listed in here right there. 2956 02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:26,760 So like a lot of the people that originally came up with like the 2957 02:29:26,760 --> 02:29:33,520 first batch of PBT as after this were involved in this to start 2958 02:29:33,520 --> 02:29:35,480 with. Game Influences. 2959 02:29:35,640 --> 02:29:38,840 There's AB and I do really like where it specifically says, like 2960 02:29:38,960 --> 02:29:42,320 history is based on The Mountain Witch by Timothy Kleiner, Stakes 2961 02:29:42,320 --> 02:29:43,880 is based on Trobe from Ron Edwards. 2962 02:29:43,880 --> 02:29:45,720 I really, really like that. Because, you know, what that 2963 02:29:45,720 --> 02:29:47,720 makes me want to do is go read all of these games. 2964 02:29:48,400 --> 02:29:50,880 Like I want to go read Primetime Adventures and Shadows Yesterday 2965 02:29:50,880 --> 02:29:53,600 and Sorcerer, Sorcerer, Soul Extreme St. 2966 02:29:53,600 --> 02:29:54,640 Luge. Listen. 2967 02:29:54,720 --> 02:29:58,520 The character sex moves were inspired by sex and sorcery. 2968 02:29:58,960 --> 02:30:01,880 Yep, I want to go read. I want to go read some sexy, so 2969 02:30:01,880 --> 02:30:03,960 sexy other stuff. So I really do like that. 2970 02:30:03,960 --> 02:30:06,680 Media influences like, etcetera, etcetera. 2971 02:30:06,880 --> 02:30:10,520 They're literally sex Ed things to go read. 2972 02:30:10,800 --> 02:30:12,680 Books. Changing bodies, Changing lives. 2973 02:30:12,680 --> 02:30:14,320 Ruth Bell, 1998. That's interesting. 2974 02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:17,720 There's the countdown clock, which basically says like. 2975 02:30:18,440 --> 02:30:20,000 You know the the it's in the 80s. 2976 02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:21,000 We all knew about the countdown clock. 2977 02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:22,840 We all know about that gasoline. That's the section I was talking 2978 02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:26,120 about all of that. And that's the end that oh the 2979 02:30:26,120 --> 02:30:28,400 indexes. So I I like this. 2980 02:30:28,400 --> 02:30:32,280 This is a great this is great in in PDF form. 2981 02:30:32,280 --> 02:30:35,160 It's not going to be super helpful in I guess in book form 2982 02:30:35,160 --> 02:30:36,640 except if you're flipping and flipping and flipping. 2983 02:30:36,760 --> 02:30:40,280 But like every single move that's listed here, even 2984 02:30:40,280 --> 02:30:42,800 character moves and everything is indexed and hyperlinked. 2985 02:30:43,200 --> 02:30:45,600 So thank goodness there's at least that in the PDF. 2986 02:30:46,920 --> 02:30:52,000 Thank goodness there's that. There's character moves by stat 2987 02:30:52,640 --> 02:30:54,920 are listed by stat and then hyperlinked I. 2988 02:30:55,040 --> 02:30:56,960 That's great. That's very necessary. 2989 02:30:57,440 --> 02:30:59,560 Yeah. The no stat character moves 2990 02:30:59,800 --> 02:31:04,200 listed and hyperlinked, which I really like the topical index, 2991 02:31:04,200 --> 02:31:06,600 which is basically just a repeat of the table of contents. 2992 02:31:06,600 --> 02:31:09,760 But it's all listed specifically in hyperlinked, which is really, 2993 02:31:09,760 --> 02:31:12,160 really great. The one thing that again I was 2994 02:31:12,160 --> 02:31:14,760 hoping for and didn't see when I got to the end of this, because 2995 02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:17,440 now we're just set thin the end. It's just like a two page 2996 02:31:17,440 --> 02:31:22,080 breakdown of just like how the game works, no? 2997 02:31:22,200 --> 02:31:27,120 Like at no point do you or is there any any breakdown of like 2998 02:31:27,720 --> 02:31:31,240 this is what A roll does. If you hold, this is a hold. 2999 02:31:31,440 --> 02:31:34,880 If you go forward, this is go forward. 3000 02:31:35,160 --> 02:31:38,800 If you oh wait, you never touch backs on touch back on that 3001 02:31:38,800 --> 02:31:41,280 except that one little section where it's in the middle of 3002 02:31:41,280 --> 02:31:44,000 something else. If you get harm, then this is 3003 02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:45,520 how harm works. If you get healing, this is how 3004 02:31:45,520 --> 02:31:47,400 healing works. You could do all of that in 3005 02:31:47,560 --> 02:31:49,800 maybe a two page spread. It's just a breakdown of the 3006 02:31:49,840 --> 02:31:52,120 core. This is a run through for the 3007 02:31:52,120 --> 02:31:55,760 players on how it works, but it's not here, it's not here and 3008 02:31:55,760 --> 02:31:57,200 that's it. So we're going to get into the 3009 02:31:57,200 --> 02:32:05,440 review scores, so. 5 metrics for those who don't know. 3010 02:32:05,440 --> 02:32:07,400 We give 10 points, up to 10 points for each. 3011 02:32:07,400 --> 02:32:08,920 Art and layout is the art and the layout. 3012 02:32:08,920 --> 02:32:11,360 Usability is how usable the book is. 3013 02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:14,880 Rule set is the rule set and and if we like it and if it's you 3014 02:32:14,880 --> 02:32:17,160 know whatever originality is, how original it is. 3015 02:32:17,160 --> 02:32:20,440 Value is bang for your buck and total score of up to 50. 3016 02:32:20,760 --> 02:32:22,600 Art and layout. There is no art. 3017 02:32:22,760 --> 02:32:24,840 There is no art. There's no art. 3018 02:32:25,280 --> 02:32:26,760 The cover is great. There's maybe like five other 3019 02:32:26,760 --> 02:32:28,480 pieces. So really and the pieces are 3020 02:32:28,480 --> 02:32:30,240 fine. They're basic, it's whatever, 3021 02:32:30,240 --> 02:32:31,360 but it's fine. I think. 3022 02:32:31,400 --> 02:32:34,160 I think much more art and much less words would have made this 3023 02:32:34,160 --> 02:32:36,720 much better book. The layout is fine. 3024 02:32:36,720 --> 02:32:38,120 I mean, it's readable the whole way through. 3025 02:32:38,320 --> 02:32:43,240 I think the the lack of that's that's in usability or whatever. 3026 02:32:43,240 --> 02:32:45,800 So just visually the layout is adequate at best. 3027 02:32:45,960 --> 02:32:47,880 The art is adequate at best. I don't really have anything 3028 02:32:47,880 --> 02:32:51,360 good or bad to say about it, so I think this is a great example 3029 02:32:51,360 --> 02:32:53,440 of the five. It's a perfect example. 3030 02:32:53,440 --> 02:32:54,840 That's exactly what I was going to say. 3031 02:32:54,840 --> 02:32:57,720 Again, I have nothing good or bad to say about it, so it's 3032 02:32:57,720 --> 02:33:00,680 bang average score of A5 usability. 3033 02:33:00,840 --> 02:33:03,880 OK, here's here's where my brain breaks. 3034 02:33:04,320 --> 02:33:08,400 Yeah, this is a hard one. Like so you go you want to go 3035 02:33:08,400 --> 02:33:10,320 first. Oh yeah, it doesn't matter. 3036 02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:13,400 We're probably hyperlinked to Hell, there's an index that's 3037 02:33:13,400 --> 02:33:16,920 incredibly usable. There are bookmarks everywhere, 3038 02:33:17,200 --> 02:33:20,280 but there is if you want to look up a rule. 3039 02:33:20,280 --> 02:33:23,680 It's probably in three or four different areas, and each one 3040 02:33:23,680 --> 02:33:25,840 gives different context to that. Rule. 3041 02:33:26,920 --> 02:33:28,000 Yep. Yep. 3042 02:33:28,080 --> 02:33:29,720 I mean, and it is listed in the real book. 3043 02:33:29,720 --> 02:33:31,400 So you can flip back and forth the back and forth and the back 3044 02:33:31,400 --> 02:33:34,600 and forth if you want. But again, yeah, when you go to 3045 02:33:34,600 --> 02:33:37,560 the indexes and you actually look up, like if you look up 3046 02:33:37,560 --> 02:33:41,320 harm, poor a hempley. Actually, let's just go back and 3047 02:33:41,320 --> 02:33:43,440 this will give a perfect example of what I'm talking about. 3048 02:33:43,760 --> 02:33:51,520 If you go to page three O 4 and you look at harm three O 4 and 3049 02:33:51,520 --> 02:33:53,920 you look at harm OK. I'm all the way in the 3050 02:33:53,920 --> 02:33:56,840 beginning. OK, so for example, if you want 3051 02:33:56,840 --> 02:34:01,440 to know all about harm, right, you look at page 12 through 13, 3052 02:34:01,440 --> 02:34:05,520 page 150 through 60, page 166 to 179, and page 2O2 through 2/19. 3053 02:34:08,320 --> 02:34:10,800 It's interesting in putting together this index that they 3054 02:34:10,840 --> 02:34:13,440 that they didn't go, huh? Hey, do you think that that's 3055 02:34:13,440 --> 02:34:14,800 weird, that it's so many different? 3056 02:34:15,440 --> 02:34:18,080 Yes, look at highlighted stats. Highlighting stats is such a 3057 02:34:18,080 --> 02:34:21,360 basic it's such an easy mechan you literally just like someone 3058 02:34:21,360 --> 02:34:22,960 else picks one for you, MC picks one for you. 3059 02:34:22,960 --> 02:34:28,000 So why is it on page 12/13/77 through 78163, two 59 and 260 3060 02:34:28,240 --> 02:34:31,200 and then underneath it says changing highlighted stats 163 3061 02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:33,880 and 260? Those are the 2 pages that are 3062 02:34:33,880 --> 02:34:35,960 literally exactly the same, just like copy pasted. 3063 02:34:39,240 --> 02:34:41,920 OK. So it's it's. 3064 02:34:43,000 --> 02:34:46,280 It's frustrating in that like you just said, like the tools to 3065 02:34:46,280 --> 02:34:50,000 navigate the book aspect of usability for the PDF. 3066 02:34:50,760 --> 02:34:54,040 Amazing. Like like all everything. 3067 02:34:54,040 --> 02:34:56,600 You need one step below Torika and the fact that like just 3068 02:34:56,600 --> 02:34:58,800 about everything in there. Every link, every reference to 3069 02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:01,760 another page. Every everything is linked. 3070 02:35:01,840 --> 02:35:03,800 Indexes. Navigation like crazy. 3071 02:35:04,120 --> 02:35:08,320 Actually reading the book and understanding everything is in 3072 02:35:08,520 --> 02:35:11,040 the order in which the book is set up as well. 3073 02:35:11,560 --> 02:35:15,120 Makes no sense. I'm going to say that this is 3074 02:35:15,120 --> 02:35:18,400 for me is A5. Dude, you're being nice. 3075 02:35:18,440 --> 02:35:20,880 I'm being very nice. I'm. 3076 02:35:21,040 --> 02:35:23,880 I'm OK with this being a four dude, OK? 3077 02:35:23,880 --> 02:35:25,640 I'm OK with this being a four as well. 3078 02:35:25,640 --> 02:35:28,160 I think this. I think it's hard because the 3079 02:35:28,160 --> 02:35:31,160 usability tools that we usually like really harp on are there. 3080 02:35:31,160 --> 02:35:33,640 But the book itself is just a mess. 3081 02:35:33,840 --> 02:35:36,720 And I mean, honestly, me is a four really. 3082 02:35:36,720 --> 02:35:40,360 Because also, if you go look for that rule, it's a wall of like, 3083 02:35:40,360 --> 02:35:43,040 just conversational text. I'm just like, what the fuck are 3084 02:35:43,040 --> 02:35:44,760 we doing, man? That's what I'm saying. 3085 02:35:44,960 --> 02:35:46,880 And. And again, in order to get all 3086 02:35:46,880 --> 02:35:48,920 the context you need for how the rule works, you have to check on 3087 02:35:48,920 --> 02:35:51,280 three different pages, like on 3 different sections. 3088 02:35:51,280 --> 02:35:53,120 I had that whole discussion with somebody you know. 3089 02:35:53,120 --> 02:35:55,640 I thought about this one in my head probably more than any of 3090 02:35:55,640 --> 02:35:58,360 the rest of them, where I'm just like the tools to navigate this 3091 02:35:58,360 --> 02:36:01,280 book are so good in the people specifically. 3092 02:36:01,840 --> 02:36:06,560 But actually using the book breaks my brain. 3093 02:36:06,720 --> 02:36:12,400 Like the rules of this book are maybe 4 pages realistically 3094 02:36:12,400 --> 02:36:14,480 broken down into just the core mechanics of it. 3095 02:36:14,640 --> 02:36:22,360 And this is a 304 page book. It's it's just like I I I first 3096 02:36:22,360 --> 02:36:24,680 personally was like a 5 sounds good for this but my negative 3097 02:36:24,680 --> 02:36:26,960 feelings so override my positive feelings for this. 3098 02:36:27,440 --> 02:36:29,360 That I just. I just can't give it a positive 3099 02:36:29,360 --> 02:36:30,880 score. I think like it hurts. 3100 02:36:30,960 --> 02:36:35,040 I think, I think that's I think that is valid rule set. 3101 02:36:35,680 --> 02:36:40,200 Now, rule set, and this is the actual rules of the game. 3102 02:36:40,720 --> 02:36:44,640 Not like all of like I in my mind, I'm cutting off all the 3103 02:36:44,640 --> 02:36:48,400 conversational text entirely. I'm literally just looking at 3104 02:36:48,400 --> 02:36:52,320 the core mechanics of the rules and seeing how I feel. 3105 02:36:52,840 --> 02:36:54,760 I'm more positive than negative on the rules. 3106 02:36:54,960 --> 02:36:58,200 Again, 2D6 mixed success is my favorite rule set. 3107 02:36:58,400 --> 02:37:02,240 My favorite way to play games is based on would not exist without 3108 02:37:02,240 --> 02:37:04,400 this book. You know what I mean? 3109 02:37:04,400 --> 02:37:06,960 Like that. It has to come into it. 3110 02:37:06,960 --> 02:37:10,040 I think the system at the time in 2010, I think if we read this 3111 02:37:10,040 --> 02:37:13,280 in 2010 without reading any of the PDS we read before would 3112 02:37:13,280 --> 02:37:16,200 blow our goddamn mind. And I honestly hungover, I 3113 02:37:16,240 --> 02:37:18,000 wouldn't even be able to understand it so. 3114 02:37:18,040 --> 02:37:20,440 But you know what I mean? Like in the context of this, but 3115 02:37:20,440 --> 02:37:22,680 like, I can understand why it won awards. 3116 02:37:22,680 --> 02:37:25,920 Because when I when I I did go back and look at like in games 3117 02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:27,720 that were out at the time, things that were going on. 3118 02:37:27,720 --> 02:37:33,120 I read a lot of blogs about like, what it is in response to. 3119 02:37:33,120 --> 02:37:35,760 Again, I've talked to Aaron Aaron King again, Buy all their 3120 02:37:35,760 --> 02:37:38,320 stuff. About the context of situations 3121 02:37:38,320 --> 02:37:41,560 that were going on at the time, like moves, and I've read a 3122 02:37:41,560 --> 02:37:45,200 bunch of Aaron's stuff about like the the Not Just Patrick 3123 02:37:45,200 --> 02:37:47,000 World, there's another book that's like all moves. 3124 02:37:47,360 --> 02:37:51,920 So I think not the time when it came out this was fucking ground 3125 02:37:51,920 --> 02:37:54,160 breaking. And it's it's hard to kind of 3126 02:37:54,160 --> 02:37:57,120 parse that from what we know because so many things that 3127 02:37:57,200 --> 02:38:00,480 exist in the way that we play games now exist because of this. 3128 02:38:00,760 --> 02:38:06,440 So the time it blew shit away. I think that so I. 3129 02:38:06,720 --> 02:38:12,080 Like, I think I love a lot of it again, and I'll say this over 3130 02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:13,960 and over again. I don't like the basic moves. 3131 02:38:14,320 --> 02:38:16,280 I think that not everything has to be a move. 3132 02:38:16,520 --> 02:38:18,640 Everything is a move. That's my that is the biggest 3133 02:38:18,640 --> 02:38:20,760 issue. Listen, dice mechanic, great. 3134 02:38:22,000 --> 02:38:25,160 The way stats work also pretty good. 3135 02:38:25,160 --> 02:38:25,760 Good. Like. 3136 02:38:25,760 --> 02:38:27,400 Yeah, too many moves. Too fine? 3137 02:38:27,720 --> 02:38:30,000 Yeah. Not everything has got to move. 3138 02:38:30,960 --> 02:38:33,520 Things are just some. Some things are just mechanic. 3139 02:38:33,520 --> 02:38:37,920 Why is session into move And again also there's just blurred 3140 02:38:37,920 --> 02:38:41,760 lines with the moves as well like I like they're. 3141 02:38:41,880 --> 02:38:46,480 I don't know, I'm very unsure about some of them and where 3142 02:38:46,480 --> 02:38:51,160 they crossover. I think that this is a is. 3143 02:38:51,360 --> 02:38:56,600 What do you think of this one? Like I said, it's hard like I 3144 02:38:56,640 --> 02:38:58,440 do. I There are parts of it that I 3145 02:38:58,440 --> 02:39:00,360 think are fucking genius and I love. 3146 02:39:00,840 --> 02:39:04,680 And there are parts of it that just break my fucking little 3147 02:39:04,680 --> 02:39:07,440 brain in ways that I don't enjoy. 3148 02:39:07,640 --> 02:39:10,920 It's just it's it's hard. This is a really good point. 3149 02:39:10,920 --> 02:39:13,360 It is. It is obviously above average 3150 02:39:13,600 --> 02:39:18,320 purely for the innovation of it, but not that far above it 3151 02:39:18,960 --> 02:39:21,480 because I think it's just too bogged down with too many moves 3152 02:39:21,480 --> 02:39:24,520 and too many tags and too much and you know. 3153 02:39:24,600 --> 02:39:26,760 Because this is the problem that I have with the system in 3154 02:39:26,760 --> 02:39:31,080 general, right is I have. Played and read a shit load of 3155 02:39:31,080 --> 02:39:34,960 PBTA S and I'll say this again. This is my least favorite PBTA 3156 02:39:34,960 --> 02:39:37,640 I've ever read and it is literally the progenitor of the 3157 02:39:37,640 --> 02:39:40,440 entire system. How can I read a game based on 3158 02:39:40,440 --> 02:39:43,360 this game that is better than this game and does the things 3159 02:39:43,360 --> 02:39:44,720 this game wants to do in a better way? 3160 02:39:44,720 --> 02:39:47,160 Or I don't even want to say better because we have to then 3161 02:39:47,160 --> 02:39:49,480 look at like contextually like what the creator meant when they 3162 02:39:49,480 --> 02:39:51,200 were creating the game Again, they didn't. 3163 02:39:51,240 --> 02:39:53,960 They didn't go out to write a system in Apocalypse World, just 3164 02:39:53,960 --> 02:39:57,400 the systems that have come since then I think are. 3165 02:39:58,880 --> 02:40:01,200 People have explained them especially in a better way, like 3166 02:40:01,240 --> 02:40:05,320 Aaron King explaining how BBTA works in Patrick World explains. 3167 02:40:05,320 --> 02:40:09,000 I know how to play this game better by reading a different 3168 02:40:09,000 --> 02:40:11,240 game. I actually definitely also know 3169 02:40:11,240 --> 02:40:14,040 how to play it better because of Patrick worlds like. 3170 02:40:14,040 --> 02:40:16,480 Babes in the Woods Too, from Broken World. 3171 02:40:16,480 --> 02:40:19,440 It's the one that I I've played previously. 3172 02:40:19,480 --> 02:40:21,920 I ran a group through it before. I know how to play that one 3173 02:40:21,920 --> 02:40:24,200 better after going to. Patch Monster Monster of the 3174 02:40:24,200 --> 02:40:28,120 Week is another great one. It it is all of this this is big 3175 02:40:28,120 --> 02:40:32,760 with better with the rules explained better so but so this 3176 02:40:32,760 --> 02:40:35,920 is rule set which definitely comes into how the rules are 3177 02:40:36,000 --> 02:40:37,840 told to you. But at the core of itself. 3178 02:40:38,120 --> 02:40:40,880 I mean, I I have to very I honestly have to at least give 3179 02:40:40,880 --> 02:40:43,520 this A7. OK, with the seven for this one. 3180 02:40:44,240 --> 02:40:45,600 Yeah. Because again, it is a 3181 02:40:45,600 --> 02:40:48,200 progenitor of everything. And even if I don't like the way 3182 02:40:48,200 --> 02:40:51,320 the rules are communicated to me, I still really like the most 3183 02:40:51,320 --> 02:40:55,040 of the rules. Yeah, originality, I mean this 3184 02:40:55,040 --> 02:41:01,120 has, I mean like mechanically changed, yeah. 3185 02:41:01,120 --> 02:41:04,880 Like post, PBTA is the thing. Like there is before PBTA and 3186 02:41:04,880 --> 02:41:09,000 there's after PBTA in in the context of gaming like it, it 3187 02:41:09,000 --> 02:41:12,720 has to have an insanely high score because it innovative. 3188 02:41:13,200 --> 02:41:16,400 The way we play pretty much every single game, yeah, it 3189 02:41:16,480 --> 02:41:19,680 really did. At least some aspect of it. 3190 02:41:20,080 --> 02:41:25,040 Tags moves like it just there's the tag moves. 3191 02:41:25,080 --> 02:41:26,920 You know, tag moves. Yeah, the sex. 3192 02:41:27,920 --> 02:41:30,800 You know, sex moves it do sex. It wasn't for this game we 3193 02:41:30,800 --> 02:41:31,640 wouldn't have sex in. Games. 3194 02:41:31,640 --> 02:41:36,240 Yeah, you know, But yeah, so like it, it's got to be really 3195 02:41:36,240 --> 02:41:39,840 high score because it changed. I mean, it won awards for its 3196 02:41:39,840 --> 02:41:40,880 innovation, you know what I mean? 3197 02:41:40,880 --> 02:41:42,080 Like it. It innovative. 3198 02:41:42,640 --> 02:41:48,880 Every I don't TDRBGS now would be entirely every single one 3199 02:41:48,880 --> 02:41:50,040 written would be entirely different. 3200 02:41:50,160 --> 02:41:52,840 Because I'll tell you right now, even if you've never read a PBTA 3201 02:41:52,840 --> 02:41:53,880 game, guess what? You probably have. 3202 02:41:53,960 --> 02:41:57,880 And A and a game you've read has has the creator has read a PBTA 3203 02:41:57,880 --> 02:41:59,680 game. So from the original, it has to 3204 02:41:59,680 --> 02:42:03,200 be if you're not like, even if you're not playing a PBTA game, 3205 02:42:03,640 --> 02:42:07,400 they've your career has probably read Apocalypse World or another 3206 02:42:07,400 --> 02:42:10,560 PBTA game and been inspired by that to create some kind of 3207 02:42:10,560 --> 02:42:15,880 partial success, you know? Yeah, So, I mean, it's got to be 3208 02:42:15,880 --> 02:42:16,960 really. It's got to be. 3209 02:42:17,000 --> 02:42:18,920 I mean, it really does have to be a high score. 3210 02:42:18,920 --> 02:42:20,480 You know what I mean? Like it does. 3211 02:42:21,040 --> 02:42:23,400 Yeah. Like, I'm talking like probably 3212 02:42:23,400 --> 02:42:24,880 like a nine dude. Like, if you really think 3213 02:42:24,920 --> 02:42:27,680 historically, contextually, Yeah, I think contextually, 3214 02:42:27,680 --> 02:42:31,320 yeah, give it a yeah, throw the nine, you know, at least get a 3215 02:42:31,560 --> 02:42:35,280 lot of two high scores there. And value in value. 3216 02:42:36,280 --> 02:42:39,720 Yeah, so value it is. Go ahead. 3217 02:42:40,120 --> 02:42:42,960 No, go for it. Yeah, the book's 40 bucks for 3218 02:42:42,960 --> 02:42:47,360 print, right? And that's from what's the 3219 02:42:47,360 --> 02:42:48,720 website link to it? Where did you find it? 3220 02:42:49,320 --> 02:42:52,320 I found it from Apocalypse World's website and then it 3221 02:42:52,320 --> 02:42:55,600 links you to Heart of the Deer in a Corn. 3222 02:42:56,200 --> 02:42:58,280 Yes, great website by the way. Definitely check out Heart of 3223 02:42:58,280 --> 02:43:00,840 the Unicorn. It's where I also bought the The 3224 02:43:00,840 --> 02:43:03,760 Belonging Between Belonging game that we'll read the original 1. 3225 02:43:04,080 --> 02:43:06,200 Great, great website. Definitely check out Heart of 3226 02:43:06,200 --> 02:43:07,800 the Unicorn. There a lot of stuff on this 3227 02:43:07,800 --> 02:43:09,720 website that's pretty good stuff that I have not. 3228 02:43:09,720 --> 02:43:13,520 Really good shop a lot of other places, yeah, And then you can 3229 02:43:13,520 --> 02:43:17,800 get the PDF on Itch and drive through for like 20 bucks. 3230 02:43:18,560 --> 02:43:23,840 Yeah, plus a lot of the the when you get the PDF two you get more 3231 02:43:23,840 --> 02:43:28,440 than just this you get. And that's great for players 3232 02:43:28,440 --> 02:43:32,480 especially. There's all of the let me look 3233 02:43:32,480 --> 02:43:36,280 at my Dropbox for for everything that I got when it comes to this 3234 02:43:36,280 --> 02:43:41,880 because you also get the reference book, which is really 3235 02:43:41,880 --> 02:43:43,880 just a a reference for like all of the characters. 3236 02:43:43,880 --> 02:43:46,000 So it's all of the character sheets, just that whole 3237 02:43:46,000 --> 02:43:49,480 basically character section. Pulled out and then the list of 3238 02:43:49,480 --> 02:43:52,640 the character moves, the threat map basically, honestly, what we 3239 02:43:52,640 --> 02:43:55,920 should have just read pulled into its own thing. 3240 02:43:56,120 --> 02:44:00,960 And then there is also the playbooks themselves, the 3241 02:44:00,960 --> 02:44:03,800 extended playbooks broken down so you get more, so the face, 3242 02:44:03,880 --> 02:44:07,440 you get more characters. It's like 6 or seven more 3243 02:44:07,440 --> 02:44:09,800 characters. So on top of what you get, you 3244 02:44:09,800 --> 02:44:11,640 get more than just the PDF with it. 3245 02:44:11,640 --> 02:44:15,400 You get like a a player, book, book and then I would say that 3246 02:44:15,600 --> 02:44:17,680 it's it's above average for value for me. 3247 02:44:17,680 --> 02:44:19,800 I'm giving it like a really good solid 7. 3248 02:44:20,240 --> 02:44:27,160 Yeah, 7 works for me. So that's where we're at. 3249 02:44:27,160 --> 02:44:33,320 So did not love this one. Oh, I had an amazing time going 3250 02:44:33,320 --> 02:44:40,480 through it with you, so. So 32 that is what we have for 3251 02:44:40,480 --> 02:44:44,800 Apocalypse World. Just to sum up, I mean the 3252 02:44:44,800 --> 02:44:48,560 faults realistically is just, I just I cannot stand the way this 3253 02:44:48,560 --> 02:44:51,560 is written. Like I think it's it's an issue 3254 02:44:51,560 --> 02:44:56,120 of like age right? Like I I feel like tabletop game 3255 02:44:56,120 --> 02:44:59,080 writing has been developed a lot in the past few years. 3256 02:44:59,280 --> 02:45:03,560 I mean especially especially since 2020 with this massive 3257 02:45:03,560 --> 02:45:06,280 push where like every like not everyone but a lot of people are 3258 02:45:06,280 --> 02:45:08,480 putting out their own indie games because everyone was stuck 3259 02:45:08,480 --> 02:45:10,800 at home. And we're all doing this online 3260 02:45:11,240 --> 02:45:13,880 and so the writing is really dialed in, the dev editing is 3261 02:45:13,880 --> 02:45:16,640 really dialed in. Also people have dev editors and 3262 02:45:16,640 --> 02:45:21,080 editors, but I think a lot of the issues are of of the time 3263 02:45:21,080 --> 02:45:24,320 period was made. Yeah, I think the second biggest 3264 02:45:24,320 --> 02:45:26,920 issue, and I probably think it's the very first biggest issue is 3265 02:45:26,920 --> 02:45:28,520 that from what I can tell, there is no editor. 3266 02:45:28,840 --> 02:45:31,200 Yeah. And got it needed one. 3267 02:45:31,280 --> 02:45:34,560 It needed one so bad. It needed one so bad it needed 3268 02:45:34,560 --> 02:45:36,560 someone to just be like, OK, you've said that five times 3269 02:45:36,560 --> 02:45:38,400 already. Let's condense that down. 3270 02:45:38,600 --> 02:45:41,480 Let's rearrange the chapters, because this book would be fine, 3271 02:45:41,800 --> 02:45:47,520 but I would just chop out like like 4050% of the words and I 3272 02:45:47,520 --> 02:45:50,440 would completely rearrange the sections, right? 3273 02:45:50,840 --> 02:45:54,560 And that would make this that would jump the score up like 3274 02:45:54,560 --> 02:45:58,240 fucking like 6-7, eight. But the the the usability would 3275 02:45:58,240 --> 02:46:00,400 go through the roof. Right. 3276 02:46:01,080 --> 02:46:05,040 And then as far as art and layout, whatever, it's wordy if 3277 02:46:05,040 --> 02:46:06,200 you want to keep the same page count. 3278 02:46:06,240 --> 02:46:09,520 I obviously we want more art in a in a book because when you 3279 02:46:09,520 --> 02:46:11,600 just have walls of text and walls, at least it's not 2 3280 02:46:11,600 --> 02:46:13,800 columns, but there's also no bolds. 3281 02:46:13,800 --> 02:46:15,800 It's just difficult to read. It's difficult to parse. 3282 02:46:15,800 --> 02:46:18,440 It's it's rough. And that is Apocalypse World. 3283 02:46:19,560 --> 02:46:22,760 Let's pick the next great game that inspired 10 of the games 3284 02:46:22,960 --> 02:46:25,240 that we can fucking hate when we're done reading it. 3285 02:46:25,280 --> 02:46:27,840 I don't know what the next one is, but let's see. 3286 02:46:29,200 --> 02:46:31,600 Yeah, maybe. Or maybe we won't do that for a 3287 02:46:31,600 --> 02:46:36,120 while because it sounds awful. Yeah, so. 3288 02:46:36,120 --> 02:46:40,960 But our next episode next week. What we doing next week, Ryan? 3289 02:46:41,360 --> 02:46:43,120 I have no fucking clue. I mean, you can play last movie. 3290 02:46:43,640 --> 02:46:45,880 My blood pressure is so high, my brain's not working. 3291 02:46:46,720 --> 02:46:50,080 So are we talking about the thing we're doing on the 15th? 3292 02:46:50,920 --> 02:46:53,600 Fuck, yeah, OK. What were you on 15th, Ryan? 3293 02:46:54,400 --> 02:46:55,800 Well, what are we? What are we doing? 3294 02:46:56,400 --> 02:46:58,000 Is today the Sunday before the 15th? 3295 02:46:59,120 --> 02:47:01,520 Yeah. Oh, OK Well, then we're going to 3296 02:47:01,520 --> 02:47:07,320 have Max Moon on once. Once again, they are in the 3297 02:47:07,320 --> 02:47:14,680 midst of the combined. And volume three of the Abyss of 3298 02:47:14,680 --> 02:47:17,280 Hallucinations. So they are going to come on and 3299 02:47:17,320 --> 02:47:19,120 they're going to run an adventure from Abyss of 3300 02:47:19,120 --> 02:47:23,040 Hallucinations For us here on the show Wednesday the 15th. 3301 02:47:23,200 --> 02:47:24,760 Super, super, super excited for that. 3302 02:47:24,760 --> 02:47:27,320 Max is an amazing person, an amazing creator. 3303 02:47:27,760 --> 02:47:29,400 Abyss of Hallucinations is something you should back 3304 02:47:29,400 --> 02:47:31,520 immediately. We have personally got to play 3305 02:47:31,520 --> 02:47:34,080 with Max giving us before, but it was off stream and it was 3306 02:47:34,080 --> 02:47:34,720 super cool. It was. 3307 02:47:34,840 --> 02:47:37,760 It was a Cyborg adventure. We just did that for fun. 3308 02:47:38,480 --> 02:47:41,160 Which is would be nice to do sometimes, but Max is going to 3309 02:47:41,160 --> 02:47:42,520 come on, we're actually going to stream it. 3310 02:47:42,600 --> 02:47:44,680 We're going to talk about Abyss of Hallucinations realistically 3311 02:47:44,680 --> 02:47:47,080 go by that, go back that. It's really, really fantastic. 3312 02:47:47,680 --> 02:47:50,160 And I think after that is the 19th. 3313 02:47:51,160 --> 02:47:52,120 Yep. And we're going to be doing 3314 02:47:52,120 --> 02:47:55,480 Planet Fist with Junkie Games. Jess Levine, really excited to 3315 02:47:55,480 --> 02:47:56,680 go over that. Talk about that a little bit 3316 02:47:56,680 --> 02:47:59,080 today on the Kickstarter episode, which will drop 3317 02:47:59,080 --> 02:48:00,920 tomorrow, which means it'll be before this one. 3318 02:48:01,640 --> 02:48:04,440 Really excited for that. It's like if Fist was a 3319 02:48:04,600 --> 02:48:08,240 narrative tactical war game that uses 2D6 plus stat. 3320 02:48:09,000 --> 02:48:11,000 So really excited for that. It'll be a nice. 3321 02:48:11,960 --> 02:48:15,440 Yeah, it'll be a nice version of what I what I like about games 3322 02:48:15,440 --> 02:48:17,360 are based on PBTA. So those are the things we got 3323 02:48:17,360 --> 02:48:19,640 coming up, a lot of stuff coming up between now and the end of 3324 02:48:19,640 --> 02:48:21,520 the month and the end of the year. 3325 02:48:21,720 --> 02:48:24,720 We are going to be doing a year interview again this year, so 3326 02:48:24,720 --> 02:48:26,320 we'll get to that. But we're going to stack a lot 3327 02:48:26,320 --> 02:48:28,280 of stuff in the next couple of weeks, probably be done by the 3328 02:48:28,280 --> 02:48:31,320 2nd week of December and then just get prepped for for the end 3329 02:48:31,320 --> 02:48:32,120 of that. So that's it. 3330 02:48:32,160 --> 02:48:34,200 That's our episode. Find out our links at our link 3331 02:48:34,200 --> 02:48:38,760 tree slash the weekly scroll. We'll put links to the meal 3332 02:48:38,760 --> 02:48:40,880 training for Meg Baker at the bottom and links to all this 3333 02:48:40,880 --> 02:48:42,600 stuff and. That's all I got. 3334 02:48:43,440 --> 02:48:45,880 That's all I have as well. All right, we will talk to you 3335 02:48:45,880 --> 02:48:47,600 later. Have fun in in your apocalypse 3336 02:48:47,600 --> 02:48:49,480 worlds, people. Sex movies.