1 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,280 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll podcast. 2 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,040 My name is Ryan and today we have a special guest with us 3 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,480 that is M Allen Hall. How are you doing this morning? 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,440 I'm doing just fine. How are you? 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,320 You know, I'm, I'm getting there. 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,160 We're getting along here. So welcome. 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:30,440 The times are the difference a little bit for. 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:32,640 You. That's everybody. 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,920 The best is when we talk to people in Europe who are only 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,240 like 12 hours ahead. So it is what it is. 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:43,600 Yeah, we're here talking today about Godspark, which is a 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,520 project that's going out. Are you doing this for Zemo 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,080 Zenquest or just February is a good month to drop stuff? 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,200 So yeah, it was. It's for Zenquest. 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,040 It's actually gonna start before and then run into. 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,440 So it starts on Tuesday and then it's gonna run into February to 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,920 get it on, which qualified it for like the Zenquest badge and 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,600 that kind of stuff on Kickstarter. 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,560 There you go. Before we get to Gottsmark, 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,200 though, 'cause we'll talk about plenty of that. 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,360 Who? Who's M Allen Hall? 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,680 Who? The Who The Who the heck are 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,760 you? What have you done? 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,480 What? What? 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Let's talk about what you've put out, because you've put out 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,520 quite a bit already, actually, even before getting to this. 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,240 So what are some things people might know you for? 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,800 Or, you know, let's talk about what kind of got us to God's 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,160 bar. Sure. 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:31,560 So I started with role-playing games only four or five years 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,160 ago, started playing Dungeons and Dragons, and from that I 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,800 first thing I wrote was actually a novel series that was all set 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,760 in a campaign of Dungeons and Dragons. 34 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,240 That writing novels was an experience that I don't really 35 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,800 recommend. But once I was through with 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,920 that, I actually started writing a A Mort Borg module was like my 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,560 first thing that I wrote that was playable. 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,440 And like I wrote it because I'd seen other people publishing 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,800 Mark Berg modules. I had heard about Mark Borg and 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,960 put it out there and like literally the next day I got a 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,199 message on Itch that was like, oh, I played this with my group 42 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:12,040 and we had a lot of fun. And that like instant feedback. 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,000 I was like, I'm hooked. Like people like I can like put 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,200 just put this thing out for free in the universe and the people 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,320 are going to like read it and play it and then tell me they 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,960 liked it. Like that's all I'm looking for 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,200 here. I want people to tell me they 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,160 like this stuff. So started by writing modules 49 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:31,160 and then advanced from there to writing full games and written a 50 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,040 full a couple full games. Started with some copies of Sr. 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,120 some SRDS as historic Raven Madge as my wretched and alone 52 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,480 game, and then moved from there to full feature role-playing 53 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,320 games of my own. Which Sprinkles is missing was 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,040 my big release last year as a it's a kid focused game, but we 55 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,560 find everybody can have fun with it. 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,400 And then the end of last year I started working on God Spark. 57 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,400 And so that's where we are. Yeah, so I've said this before 58 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,680 we got started. I Sprinkles Missing is great. 59 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,560 I really enjoy it. I I I think there's a huge 60 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,560 opening for a lot of kid focused games because a lot of, you 61 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,440 know, us people in this scene are not kids anymore. 62 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,200 And a lot of us, I mean I don't but a lot of people have kids 63 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,440 and I think a lot of people would really enjoy having 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,840 something that they can play with their kids. 65 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,480 Cuz I mean you can theoretically do D&D if you really want to, 66 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,840 but 5E is not. I've never found it to be super 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,600 kid friendly without chopping it to pieces. 68 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,000 So a system like Sprinkles is missing was great. 69 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,760 First of all it's super cute and very positively. 70 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,000 I mean that a great way you're you're looking for your missing 71 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,160 Unicorn. The the forest crawl is super 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,960 interesting with the with the tables and the system is I mean 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,840 B6 and you get more and you got to hit a target number and it's 74 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,280 pretty straightforward. So what was, what was kind of 75 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,360 impetus for, I mean what was the impetus for Sprinkles is missing 76 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,480 and I know there's an expansion for it. 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,840 How? How was the process of putting 78 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,280 that out and everything? So it it started, can I? 79 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,920 I don't know can can I curse on this stream? 80 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Oh. Fuck yeah, absolutely. 81 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,800 So it started. I played the demo for Urine 82 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,839 Space and everything's fucked with my wife and we played it 83 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,000 and we had a blast with it and I was like, oh, this is an awesome 84 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,520 game. My kids would love this. 85 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,840 So I got my kids are 8:10 and 12:00, but I'm like, I cannot 86 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:31,160 put them in front of a game that's called You're in Space 87 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,000 and Everything's Fucked. So with that I was like, I 88 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,080 should just take this and reskin it as something that yeah, I got 89 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,080 my, I got my hard covers like 3 days ago. 90 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,200 They're it's beautiful. It's a great book. 91 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,120 But anyway so I I was like I need to make change this so it's 92 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,760 something that I could like play with my kids and so that was the 93 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,960 inspiration for it. So the idea that it's something 94 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,000 that's spun generated on the fly as you're going. 95 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,600 And then as I was going through the process of re skinning, I 96 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,480 realized that there were certain opportunities there to do things 97 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,840 like make it more accessible for brand new game runners. 98 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,480 Because they're at least in the in the demo version that they 99 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,920 put out while the Kickstarter was going there was still, there 100 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,800 was still a lot of weight put on the game runner to spontaneously 101 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,600 generate the rooms and the the the dangers and what what 102 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,320 happens? I was like, you know I'm going 103 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,520 to take it. I want to make it so you don't 104 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,480 need to know anything about running games so that you can 105 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,960 run this game. So it's very much laid out like 106 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,840 that. You read your sections in every 107 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,440 for every scene. The scenes are already laid out. 108 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,480 This is the problem you're going to present to the players. 109 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,000 These are the you just read straight from the book. 110 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,240 This is what they see. And then there's clear 111 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,520 suggestions for how they could solve the problem, what you 112 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,880 could suggest to them to solve the problem, that kind of thing. 113 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:48,520 So it sort of started as just like I should just reskin this 114 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,000 for something that's PG and then it, you know, Yeah, as things 115 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,520 do, it morphed and let's make a system that's really accessible 116 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,520 for everybody. Yeah, and it's it is, like I 117 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,320 said, it's really good. You know, when I read through 118 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,040 it, it's laid out really well, like you just said, like you 119 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,200 could. You know, we we talk a lot on 120 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,040 the show here, you know, because we do some, like, weird shit on 121 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,360 here. Like a lot of people make some 122 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,400 weird stuff that have been doing it for a long time. 123 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,640 And a lot of games just aren't like gonna be people's first 124 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,560 games, you know what I mean? And but Sprinkles was missing 125 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,200 easily. Could like, I could grab anyone 126 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,720 off the street, slap that in their hand and they could be 127 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,720 running in the game for people in like 15 minutes. 128 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,360 Like, it's like super easy. Just grab a handful of D sixes. 129 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,640 And that's a really big, like, positive for the system. 130 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,640 I mean whether you're playing it or running it, it's it was 131 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,520 really approachable and like I said as a kid friendly system in 132 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,840 a space that I think could use a lot more kid friendly games like 133 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,720 it's it's really well done. So that was that was great. 134 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,800 I appreciate that. Yeah, I'll say So we had a as it 135 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,040 Packs Unplugged this year and I had a booth there and we also 136 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,240 had a demo table for and we were running Sprinkles as missing and 137 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,120 like some you know. So we had we, I don't know we 138 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,680 ran 10 or 12 games over the course of the weekend. 139 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,000 And some games were like, you know there were a parent with 140 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,960 their kids or whatever. And we played it. 141 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,040 But then we had, you know we had some that were just like five 142 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,080 like tatted up biker guys that like have been playing D&D since 143 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,280 like the early 80s. And like they're going to be, 144 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,800 they're going to go looking for their Unicorn. 145 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,080 And they everybody's having a blast. 146 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,880 And like people, everybody can have fun with it. 147 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,560 You know, like I always when I pitch it, I always say like it's 148 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,320 good for like 6 to 12 and adults and I'm like a teenager could 149 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,360 definitely play this and have fun. 150 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,600 But I'm not going to promise you your teenager is going to want 151 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,280 to do anything. Yeah. 152 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:31,520 Yeah. No, that's great. 153 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,840 I, like I said, a lot of space for it. 154 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,840 You know, there are other one of the reasons Max Ritter is so 155 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,840 popular is because it's really great, but it's also really 156 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,480 approachable for families. And I mean like Princess and 157 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,120 peril and stuff like that. Who doesn't? 158 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,760 Who didn't play? Like, gosh, what is the name of 159 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,800 that board game where you have to dress up as a Princess? 160 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,240 Because my sisters made me play that like crazy. 161 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,040 It was when we were a kid. You never had that. 162 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:53,920 I don't know what I'm talking about. 163 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,960 You, you, you had to get all the Princess parts, you know, like 164 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,120 clip on earrings and stuff. Anyway, I had two sisters, so I 165 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,480 mean. I'm not. 166 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,680 Yeah, but no, it, like I said, it's great. 167 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,360 And then as far as putting out a project, having something that 168 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,040 put into people's hands, like, you know, obviously you're doing 169 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,680 it again. So it didn't. 170 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,080 It didn't. It didn't kill you. 171 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,560 No, it was. It was fun. 172 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,520 Yeah. Yeah. 173 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,880 So it was, it was a process. And now so I'll say I started 174 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,760 that project in like June of last year and the and at the 175 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,159 time it was because Crowdfunder was doing like focus on kids 176 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:33,919 stuff. It was like that was their month 177 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:36,039 for kid focused products or whatever. 178 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,640 And so I ran it for that and it went terribly. 179 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,559 And so it was like I had like 3 backers and I like immediately. 180 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:43,640 I took it down after like 4 days. 181 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,000 I'm like, no, no, no, we're done with this. 182 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,040 So I still ended up obviously making the game and put it out a 183 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,720 little later than I may have hoped for. 184 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,640 So it was a bit of a stretch for what I was thinking. 185 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,840 You know what? I'll try Z Inquest. 186 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,120 It's like that didn't work out. But let's go ahead try another 187 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,320 crowdfunding thing, crowdfunding thing. 188 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,480 And that's where I was. Like, what can I do? 189 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,960 That's where the God Spark came from, as sort of the next step 190 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,640 for that. Gotcha. 191 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,840 And So what? What made you want to do? 192 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,640 Because Got Spark is a is a solo pen and paper adventure game, 193 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,880 not like a journaling game, because you've written solo 194 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,640 adventure game, There's solo journaling games. 195 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,640 You've done Merck Borg. You've done Cyborg. 196 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,360 You've done Lost Bay. You've done Liminal Horror. 197 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,920 You've done Sprinkles. Is missing. 198 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:25,200 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 199 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,560 And so, right. So I wanted to do a game, so 200 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,200 there was, there was at packs you there was lots of attention 201 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,160 to solo games. So I already had a few solo 202 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,240 games, two couple journaling games and one that's like a solo 203 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,920 hex crawling sort of again, playing on the border between 204 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,080 role-playing and board games. And I think that's what Godspark 205 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,840 does too. Like, I don't call it a soul 206 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,600 role-playing game on the like on the Kickstarter page or anything 207 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,640 like that. Like I really think this is a 208 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,480 this is an adventure game. So honestly a lot of inspiration 209 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,680 from Miru, so Hinokodo amazing game. 210 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,480 And so the idea of, yes, there is a role that you're playing, 211 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,440 but really you could ignore that and play this as just a tactical 212 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,520 board game. And so I like the one player 213 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,240 aspect. And that was where I started. 214 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,200 And I had an idea for, oh, it would be cool, like if we were 215 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,520 just, you just woke up in a place and there are these just 216 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,440 like monstrous bodies, like falling from the sky. 217 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,040 Like, that'd be awesome. You have to surf through and 218 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,160 it'd be like every reason loved that. 219 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:29,240 Put a skull in the front. It'll be perfect. 220 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,320 And so from that, I sort of went like, where could I take this? 221 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:35,520 How could I make this into a game? 222 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,160 That's where I went, got found. So there's God Falls or what 223 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,200 they're called. It's like those are the gut 224 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,520 bodies of dead gods and we're going to go look through them. 225 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,840 We're going to need some go look for some some God sparks, which 226 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,360 is like the divine energy in the game. 227 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,520 And so from there I sort of work through how is that going to 228 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,440 work? How are we going to make a game 229 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,320 out of this? And now we have God Spark so. 230 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,960 So I just brought up the cover and it's a great looking cover, 231 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,000 definitely snagged me as soon as I saw it. 232 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,200 And we'll get to some spreads here in a little bit too, cuz 233 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,760 it's really it's a beautiful looking game. 234 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,160 Are you doing all of the graphic design and layout and stuff too, 235 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,760 or do you have people coming in for that? 236 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,400 No, that was all me. So I've done the with. 237 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,960 So with one there's one art piece in the final. 238 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:27,760 In the final layout that I did have was done by Strega, Strega, 239 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,240 Wolf, Vandenberg. So I had them do one piece 240 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,520 because it was just sort of I knew what I wanted to look like 241 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,040 and it was just outside my skill level. 242 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,640 So I do, we do have that in the final book but most everything 243 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,320 else was me. And so I did the layouts. 244 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,000 I did the the covers, the skulls are all me. 245 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,800 It was just like, you know, I like one of the things I really 246 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,720 enjoy about making games is I get to do all those other 247 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,440 aspects. So like when I started and I was 248 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,200 writing novels and layout for novels is just like one column 249 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,880 of words that just goes on forever. 250 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,000 What what I've been able switching to games and being 251 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,680 able to learn, learn about laying out the text, learn about 252 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:08,400 illustration, learn about all these other things. 253 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,800 They're just, it's just a lot of fun. 254 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,680 It's fun just doing everything, learning everything. 255 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,120 And so for this game I do, I've been doing most of the stuff. 256 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,560 So, yeah, go ahead. No. 257 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:21,680 Yeah. So I was just bringing up some 258 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:24,880 of the spreads here. This is the page two I love. 259 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,080 I love whenever whenever a layout crosses the the middle 260 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,080 page, it's just. It's nice, right? 261 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,800 I had a lot of, I had a lot of fun with this. 262 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,320 I've really, I really enjoyed making the the spreads. 263 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,760 Everyone's, they're all different. 264 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,320 Well they're all so 2/3 of the book, which is the the rule book 265 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,680 part is every spread is like completely different from every 266 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:48,160 other one and so that. So yeah, we've got the the 267 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,760 violence spread up now. It's just it was just a lot of 268 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,640 fun just incorporating just straight photography with a 269 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,040 little bit of editing into the different text layouts. 270 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,120 So it was it was an, you know, it was an exercise for me, but 271 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,280 it was a lot of fun putting together and I think, you know 272 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,160 what we end up with is a nice accessible thing. 273 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:11,120 It's also nice to look at. I mean novels. 274 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,320 Every game system under the sun so far. 275 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,200 Layout, art, like everything. Kind of just hitting everything 276 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:23,480 from all angles, huh? Yeah, and it's I like to have 277 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,360 work on skills and something I'm working I'm getting into for 278 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,720 I've got another project coming out. 279 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,600 So at some point this year that's it's a tarot based game. 280 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,720 So I started drawing some tarot cards and so I actually have 281 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:42,120 some like physical ink and watercolor drawings now of tarot 282 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,840 cards that I've made. And it's just like working with 283 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,680 like physical media, which is not something I'd ever done 284 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:48,320 before. It's been really fun and to 285 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,880 learn about, to learn to watch YouTube videos and how to do 286 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,280 these different things. It's just fun just like doing 287 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,360 everything. And that's what I said, like 288 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:57,560 cool stuff about games is they need all these different things 289 00:13:57,560 --> 00:13:59,400 so you can learn how to do all these different things. 290 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:02,840 Make sure you can also like get people to help you and like, 291 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,520 hire people and stuff like that. But this is just for, you know, 292 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,520 I'm just doing this for fun, so I just learn it myself. 293 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,120 There you go. Hey listen, anyone that can do 294 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,520 it all themselves saves a lot of money. 295 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,440 And you know, if it looks like I said these friends are great. 296 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,440 So you know if you can do it and you're doing it this well, then 297 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,720 I would definitely just keep doing it. 298 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,280 So, so Gods spark though so it is a you describe it on your 299 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,680 website as like a pen and paper adventure game. 300 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,040 Kind of reminds me of like like 12 years from Max Moon or 301 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,040 something like that where you're you're playing through as a 302 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,200 character. Can you do you wanna walk us 303 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,200 through like you said you're seeking you're going across this 304 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:42,280 world seeking these God sparks. But is it, Did you adapt like 305 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,280 another adventure game system kind of how you did with 306 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,720 sprinkles missing, or did you come up with this whole system 307 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,760 by your like? This was this is all, this is 308 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,000 all brand new. So the way it works is you start 309 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,880 the game and the idea is you wake up and you are you have 310 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,240 been granted a God spark by your God as they died. 311 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:08,080 And so in in my original idea of the game every God spark was AD 312 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,800 6 and what I quickly found out is I was going to need like 30 313 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,720 or 40D sixes to play this game. Which is fine for me because I 314 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:21,400 have lots of dice, but the I got some quick feedback that it 315 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,080 might be unreasonable to ask other people to also have 30 or 316 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:30,040 40D sixes to play a game. So with that I I changed things 317 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,360 some things up so every God's spark is represents AD 6 and the 318 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,280 God's sparks as the resource. So it's a bit of a resource 319 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,240 management game they are going to be. 320 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,560 They're going to drive everything. 321 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:49,720 So when you have hit points called Just Life, and the hit 322 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,160 points go to every round of the game, you're going to decrease, 323 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,360 You're going to lose one hit point. 324 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,520 Just everything's decaying, everything's walk is, you know, 325 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,600 entropy is accelerated in this place. 326 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:01,120 You're losing hit points all the time. 327 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,120 You're looking for God's sparks, which I'll get to a second how 328 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,800 you find them. But as you find them, you can 329 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,680 use them to replenish your life. So as you're going through on 330 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,040 your on the the sheet that you use to track the game, you're 331 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,760 collecting God's sparks in one section of the sheet. 332 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,280 And as you have them, you can move them on other sections of 333 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,200 the sheet, essentially. And so if you move one into your 334 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,160 life, yeah, you just gain another six pips of life. 335 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,320 That's on the D6 for items, which we're called relics. 336 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,560 Three types of relics, you've got weapons, armor and 337 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,760 transport. And each of those is going to be 338 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,680 when you use them, you're rolling D sixes. 339 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,240 And when you create them, you create them from God sparks. 340 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,680 And the number of God sparks you use is how much power they have 341 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,800 and that's how many D sixes you roll when you use them. 342 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,400 So if you've got like a power to weapon when you are fighting an 343 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,080 Angel, which are the monsters in the game, you're going to roll 344 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,000 2D sixes. And so that's all great, but I 345 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,080 wanted it to be a limited resource and I wanted to be 346 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,600 there to be risk to using it. So pretty much anytime you roll 347 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,840 A1 in the game, you're going to be losing AD 6 from whatever it 348 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,600 was you were doing. So if you are using your weapon 349 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,760 and you roll 2D sixes and one of them comes up as a one, your 350 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,760 weapon just broke and now it's only a 1D6 weapon. 351 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,760 If you were using your transport and you roll one, now it broke 352 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,760 and it is degrading and you wouldn't. 353 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,640 It's going to get weaker each time you do it. 354 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,520 The same goes for enemies, when if your enemy attacks you and 355 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,119 they roll one, they're going to lose an attack die. 356 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,040 So everything it rolling A1 is going to be reducing what you 357 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,839 use When you perform miracles, which are the the magic 358 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:30,400 essentially of the game. You'll take God sparks that you 359 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,840 have saved up and you'll roll, depending on the strength of the 360 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,240 miracle, a number of D sixes, and again if any rolls one, it 361 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,360 doesn't count towards succeeding in that miracle. 362 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Winning the game requires casting the highest level 363 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,960 miracle, the miracle of ascension, and so you need to 364 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,360 save up essentially usually need to fill up your entire God spark 365 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:51,680 pool. All of your storage has to be 366 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,920 full of of unused God sparks and you have to roll all of them and 367 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,280 hope that none should come up as a one. 368 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,640 And there's some recourse if some do and you're trying to win 369 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,680 the game. You can have some RE rolls that 370 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,160 you've saved up from earlier in the game, but but that's sort of 371 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,760 how it goes and you're going to be going into these dead gods 372 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,680 which show up on a a hex map throughout the game. 373 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,560 They show up randomly. So each time you don't know how 374 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,040 far you're going to go to get to the next one and that transport 375 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,400 time is going to be costing you time and if it's costing time 376 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,120 it's costing life. And so all of that is going to 377 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:21,720 be moving around and then in the gods you're going to use the 378 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,600 playing cards to find out what kind of what areas you'll find 379 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,760 in those gods and some are going to give you God sparks and 380 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,160 sometimes you're going to find NPC. 381 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,280 So there's other Saints in the game, some of which can join you 382 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,800 and become essentially like companions. 383 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,600 And that or you might find angels, which is going to be 384 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,480 fighting. And the battles are meant to be 385 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,920 short and hard and deadly. So you know you it'll be A2 386 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,600 rounds and one of you is going to be dead. 387 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,920 There's some recourse again for you to come back and be 388 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,320 reincarnated sort of on the spot and keep going with that battle. 389 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,480 But I really just wanted everything to be really fast and 390 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,320 everything is really dependent on those God sparks. 391 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,880 Yeah, I mean, it sounds brutal, like it's like extreme usage die 392 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,680 because it's not like, oh, you go down one. 393 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,000 It's like, no, it's just gone. Yeah, no. 394 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,640 So yeah usage. So using usage dice like what 395 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,240 came there was. So at at first I was thinking 396 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,160 about doing a usage die situation but I really wanted it 397 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,840 just to be D sixes and doing like I think it's fallen that 398 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:29,120 has goes from D20D12 and I saw that and I was like you know so 399 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:32,000 something I learned again, not asking somebody to have 40D 400 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,680 sixes on hand. If I ask people to have a full 401 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:41,320 set of RPG dice, that's going to be a barrier but pretty even if 402 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,160 you've never played an RPG you probably have AD 6:00 somewhere 403 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,000 in your house and like you can play this game with one D6. 404 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,640 It'd be a little annoying for some of the roles but it would 405 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,360 work. But I want to, So I it's in the 406 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:58,640 in the attempt at accessibility, I really wanted to just be D 407 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,040 sixes. And I I did. 408 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,680 I've done that for some other games, whereas earlier I was 409 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,440 using full like D20 for this, D12 for that. 410 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,600 It's like, no, let's just make everything D sixes because 411 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,800 that's something I can feel more comfortable that everybody's 412 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,280 going to have, Especially when I'm going to conventions and I 413 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,360 have, you know, a different audience and I'm getting traffic 414 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:17,800 in my itch page. Like if you're finding an itch 415 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,120 page for a role-playing game, you probably have a full set of 416 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:23,960 dice somewhere. There are people that wander by 417 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,200 my I'm at a convention at a brewery in town. 418 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,880 Like, not everybody there is going to have AD 20. 419 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,960 So. So I I I like the idea of 420 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,440 focusing on just the D sixes. No, I mean that's a great, 421 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,200 that's a great thing to do for accessibility and I'm a huge fan 422 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,560 of 2D Anyone anyone that watches show normally knows that that D 423 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,320 sixes and 2D sixes are my favorite. 424 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,400 So I mean I of course they have a million but it it's it's 425 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:54,560 really interesting to hear kind of like the YS like I love that 426 00:20:54,560 --> 00:21:00,600 it's for accessibility and but I also I I love the idea that I 427 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,400 mean I you're right I do have 40D sixes but I like that it's 428 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,720 more representative too so it just feels cleaner. 429 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,680 So the the premise of the game is basically to just keep 430 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,200 finding enough God sparks while you have enough energy to 431 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,160 finally cast this final miracle of ascension. 432 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:22,080 Correct. Yeah, you need to so the IT you 433 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:25,560 to cast the ascension miracle, you need to roll 6. 434 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,840 You need to cast perform a miracle with 66, which is that's 435 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,440 the highest level miracle in the game. 436 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,480 And your pool that you can have saved up is at most 76. 437 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:40,400 You can have up to four. Every time you perform a miracle 438 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,960 and you roll one, that doesn't help that that's a sort of a 439 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,200 failure. So if you're trying to just say 440 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,680 you're trying to make a weapon with and you say I'm going to 441 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,040 make A1 power weapon, I'm going to roll 1D6. 442 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,880 If you roll one, you get nothing but that, and you lose that 443 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,200 God's part because it's a one. So you're not getting nothing. 444 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,440 Nothing that goes into another column on the sheet which is 445 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,920 essentially a re roll and so you can save that for later and so 446 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,800 you can have up to 4 little re rolls. 447 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,440 It's just re rolling one die. So it's not like, so if I roll 448 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,400 all six and I roll 2 ones, well if I've got two re rolls in my 449 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,360 pile I can re roll those two and hopefully they won't be once and 450 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:19,200 I can still get that last miracle. 451 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,680 So I it didn't. It was a little, like you said, 452 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,680 a little. In one of my own playthroughs, I 453 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,440 failed the six dice roll three times. 454 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,040 And so like I roll 6, I'd lose one or two and then I have to 455 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,520 like keep going, going to find more and I get it and I roll it 456 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,560 and I'd lose more and I'd keep going. 457 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,280 And I was like, that wasn't very much fun. 458 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,840 So I was like, how can I, how can we make something come from 459 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,240 that failure? And that's where we got the RE 460 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,920 rolls from. Awesome. 461 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,480 No, it's so. I mean, this speaks right to my 462 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,560 grim, dark kind of heart. It sounds great. 463 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,080 Yeah. Panion Games is in the chat, and 464 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,280 they said that after Sprinkles was missing. 465 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,760 They thought you were kid focused, but now they know 466 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,160 better. You know it was so I have a a 467 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,960 journaling game called Unhallowed and it on for the 468 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,720 cover for that. And it's it's literally, it's a 469 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,440 pan. It's a one page, it's a one, one 470 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,120 page front and back game when it's printed. 471 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,960 And for the cover that I made like a sort of like a a metal, 472 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,480 like a heavy metal logo of the word unhallowed. 473 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,040 And then I sort of like fused it onto a deer skull because it's 474 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,120 sort of like a dark forest kind of a thing. 475 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,640 And I literally made that game in a weekend, like 3 days, two 476 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,280 days for writing one to make the deer skull. 477 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,960 Done. And that is my highest selling 478 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,920 product ever. And I'm convinced it's just 479 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,480 because it has like the creepy deer skull on the front. 480 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,680 And then so that's why I said like, I'm going to put a skull 481 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,360 on the front. And I was like by learning from 482 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:43,000 that, people like skulls. So they've got a so now we have 483 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,560 a deer skull, Now we have a skull in the front of Gods Park. 484 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,960 I was like, how can I make a skull be part of this? 485 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,080 Because that's in you know I so, you know, so I'm running like 486 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,400 Facebook ads for the getting rid of the Kickstarter and like it's 487 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,760 just a big old skull and says your God is dead. 488 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,360 And it's working really well. Yeah, hey, listen, I mean, not 489 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,720 going to lie though, the I'm looking at the Unhallowed cover 490 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,960 right now and it's, it's pretty badass. 491 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,400 Like I would, I would, I would play this. 492 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,800 So. That's like I said, definitely. 493 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,360 That's literally like my highest selling product ever. 494 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,800 And I'm convinced it's not because people wanted to play a 495 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,360 journaling game, which is what it is. 496 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,680 It's because they see that they're like, oh, that's cool. 497 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,040 I don't know what this is, but like, that's cool. 498 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,640 I want that. Yeah, hey, art. 499 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,520 Art sells games, you know that. It really does, which makes me 500 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:33,560 wish I was better at it, but. Hey, listen, you're good, so 501 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,600 keep going, but. You know, if I could make that, 502 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,760 I'd be happy. I've done a couple things. 503 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,640 OK. It's like more generally, it 504 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,840 would be nice to be to be more confident in it, especially 505 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,360 because one of another, a project that's come up in the 506 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:50,080 last few days that is in play testing now is a. 507 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,920 It's a deck building game. And let me tell you, there's a 508 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,160 lot of art in a deck building game. 509 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,120 Every one of those, even though they're a little tiny, you know, 510 00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:03,040 like 2 inch by 1 inch pictures, like if I need fifty of those, I 511 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,880 can't do that. Like, I don't know. 512 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,840 That's just so much so. It's like he's a little 513 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,040 intimidating still sometimes. No I I definitely I people that 514 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,440 are these double and triple threats people like Hodag or we 515 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,240 just had the the guys from Still Lee still Fleet and Odd Goblin 516 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,960 and and he did all of the art for his own game which is really 517 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,240 great and I just like stuff. That's amazing. 518 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:26,960 Isn't that amazing? Yeah, it's. 519 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,520 It's so good. So, yeah, super jealous of of 520 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,920 being able to just be like, hmm, what's this thing that I want? 521 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,720 Oh, I drew a picture of it. That looks great. 522 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,640 Yeah, I totally get that. It's. 523 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,640 Like I have things in my head and I'm like, I can't get this 524 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,360 onto the paper like or into the into the iPad or whatever it is 525 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:44,760 that I'm trying to like put it on. 526 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:49,040 It's not happening. So you know, I don't know if we 527 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,320 touched on this a little bit already. 528 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,040 My brain doesn't doesn't still have it in it, but what was, 529 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,520 what was the impetus for wanting specifically to do a solo 530 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,280 adventure game and why? One that is like dead gods and 531 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,920 Saints and angels and and you know the vibes it was. 532 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,760 Part of it was I got a lot of the solo games I heard a lot 533 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,080 about when I was at PAX Unplugged. 534 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:15,440 Like I had my solo games there and I had people and I had a 535 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,400 little like sign up. I had like, you know, a sign 536 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,320 says Mark Borg, and a sign says Cyborg, and a sign says D&D and 537 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,880 a sign says solo journaling. And I would have people come by 538 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,440 and just point at that and like where's your solo journaling 539 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,320 stuff? Like where are your solo games. 540 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,640 So there is a lot. You know there's people want to 541 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,440 play games and there's they can't always get a table 542 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,880 together. So like sure, Sprinkles are 543 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Missing is great if you've got people you can play with as is 544 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,880 lots of, as are lots of role-playing games. 545 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,880 But I wanted to be like, you know, I want to make something 546 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,040 that's going to be solo, that's going to speak to that group. 547 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,960 And it's the kind of thing that was sort of like a combination 548 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,920 of, you know, I keep an ideal list right on my phone in the 549 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,520 Notes app. I just always have a list of 550 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,040 like, random ideas. I'm like, oh, that could be a 551 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,600 game. And just sort of I look through 552 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:00,760 there, I'm like, what are these things? 553 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,760 Could I make into a solo game? And so the, I mean, dead gods 554 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,680 again. It was sort of like I had that 555 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,760 that Facebook ad like plan. I'm like, I'm going to say 556 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,440 something like really gay. I need those rage clicks. 557 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,520 It's like I want to just like put something out there. 558 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,320 Your God is dead. Like maybe get people just like 559 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,920 catch their attention with something like that. 560 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,000 And so started from there and where we know we have God's 561 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,200 spark. There we go. 562 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,480 Yeah. And I love, I love solo 563 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,360 adventure games. I, you know, I really enjoy solo 564 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,640 journaling games. Conceptually, I have a bunch of 565 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,920 them. I just, I just, it's just I 566 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,320 can't sit down and really do that. 567 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,560 Cuz I, you know, I've got that ADHD perfectionism where I'm 568 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,120 like, I can't just jot it down, it has to be the finished 569 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:47,240 project, like as I finish it. So the idea of just being like, 570 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,200 oh, let me just do that. Like I said, conceptually I 571 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,360 would love to love them more or or enjoy them more. 572 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:58,200 But so adventure games like this where you can like roll dice, 573 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,800 move forward, have a goal, like have a quest, you know, it's it 574 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,760 really speaks to me a lot. And this is exactly that. 575 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,880 I I love the idea of it all. Just being this quest that you 576 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,600 can and you can win, which is cool. 577 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,880 A lot of teach RPGs. It's fine that you can't win, 578 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,880 it's just about the experience. But sometimes I want to win a 579 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,240 fucking game, you know? Which is why I feel like it 580 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,000 really, Like I said, it plays on that line between role-playing 581 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,720 game and board game because you can win. 582 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,120 And that's why I don't call it. It's like I wanted a game that 583 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,240 you can win. Especially journaling games, 584 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,760 internal games don't. For me, my games, they don't 585 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,200 just end. You lose. 586 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,040 You have to lose the game for it to end. 587 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,680 Like you're going to die at the end of the game pretty much, 588 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,320 whether it's explicit or not in like what I wrote or what you 589 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,320 wrote. Like that's pretty. 590 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,000 We all know that's how this game ended. 591 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,800 And so that's fine. But like you said, like maybe I 592 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,720 don't want that all the time. Maybe I want to win. 593 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,800 And so like, I, which is like I said, I don't even call it a 594 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,800 role-playing game. Yes, you're given a role in this 595 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,040 game, but it's the adventure. Like, that's what we're here 596 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,080 for. No, I mean and it makes sense. 597 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,560 Pen and Paper Adventure game is a perfect title for this. 598 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:08,100 So yeah. So as far as crowdfunding, mm 599 00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:10,280 hmm, you are, this is gonna be Kickstarter project. 600 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,600 Yes. And it launches on Tuesday. 601 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,160 What is that like the 20? 3rd. 602 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,720 The 23rd So what? And this is your gonna be your 603 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,760 first kick Kickstarter, right? I know you said you tried 604 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,960 crowdfunding A buffer Kickstarter. 605 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,200 Do you have like what? Like do you wanna let let's talk 606 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,520 about Kickstarter, let's talk about tiers and things like that 607 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,400 When people when people back this project cuz they should 608 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,680 this sounds awesome. What can they expect when their 609 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,240 project drops? If you're going to talk about 610 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,720 that like do you have multiple tiers? 611 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,120 Do you have are we doing hardback? 612 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,520 Are we doing softback? Like what's the project's goal 613 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,320 all? Right. 614 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,360 So there's gonna be PDF cuz everybody can always get the PDF 615 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,360 and then there's going to be a because it is Zine Quest, 616 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,200 there's going to be to qualify qualify to sort of be in the in 617 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,160 the spirit of Zine Zine Quest. It's going to be a staple bound. 618 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,840 It's about I think it ended up around 32 pages. 619 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,520 So it's not even honestly that long. 620 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,080 It's a it's a bit of a bigger Zine, it's not A5 format, it's 621 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,920 somewhere in between A5 and B5. So it's a little bit nice, a 622 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,440 little bit more room which I wanted for some of those spreads 623 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,880 And then there's so there's going to be the PDF, there's 624 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,920 going to be you just got the paperback version and it will 625 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,680 come even the the base paperback tier comes with a couple I'm 626 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,560 going to print those the the play sheet, the Saint sheet that 627 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,560 you has the map and it's got all different boxes where you're 628 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,040 going to be putting your God sparks. 629 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,080 So I'm going to get that printed on some heavier paper and that's 630 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,920 going to be included with all the zines and then the sort of 631 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,880 the the the top tier is just going to be the assigned edition 632 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,760 and then a print of Strega's artwork. 633 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,680 So it'll it'll be that and that'll also come with some St. 634 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,200 sheets. So yeah, there's our St. sheet 635 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,320 which has everything you need to to track your game, to play the 636 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,480 game and so that'll be printed on this like some cardstock and 637 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,680 tucked in there. So hopefully we'll stand up to a 638 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,200 few games worth of erasing and stuff. 639 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,640 Yeah, I mean, it's a great sheet too, and I love that. 640 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,280 I love character sheets. They're great. 641 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,800 I love that. It's also it looks like, and 642 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,520 maybe I'm wrong, you can fold it in half and not fold over 643 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,840 anything, which is nice because you could probably just print 644 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,280 these out on 8, 1/2 by 11 landscape, fold those in half 645 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,520 and have you know a couple of those with you to to run some 646 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,480 games if you want. Yeah, it's it's laid out six by 647 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,400 6 inches by 9 inches. So it'll be a A6 by 9 card, 648 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,640 Yeah. And so yeah, it was. 649 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:41,640 Initially it was across a spread of a book of when I was still 650 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,200 trying to figure out trim for the Zine and stuff like that, 651 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,760 but I ended up with this. And so yeah, you have the 652 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,560 everything you need there to track the game and how it 653 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,640 progresses. Yeah, it's. 654 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,120 And I like this Christian and chat just said as well that they 655 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,240 love this kind of sheet. It's the play sheet, more than 656 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,880 just a character sheet. And for for this kind of game, 657 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,280 especially for the adventure game, it's awesome to be able to 658 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,480 just have everything that you need to run the game, to play 659 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,840 the game to everything. You could just pull out this 660 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,160 card, pull out the sheet, whatever, and they just have 661 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,280 that open work on just that, you know, flipping through the book. 662 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,520 Because I assume at some point, just like a lot of the adventure 663 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,440 games, you're gonna get to a point. 664 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,760 You don't necessarily need to reference a book constantly for 665 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,720 for everything, especially if you have everything in a sheet. 666 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,240 Exactly. And part of it was I've played 667 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,760 games where they've got the the map is there on the page and the 668 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,000 character sheets on another page. 669 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,200 But it's like if I'm doing stuff on that and then I'm turning 670 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,360 away from that to find something in the rule book, then I'm 671 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,080 turning back to that. Or you know this way you know 672 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,440 when I play when I played it with I take the little red I 673 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,120 grab some of the little cubes from like terraforming Mars like 674 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,760 the little plastic cubes and I use those instead of like 675 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,080 constantly checking and erasing to try. 676 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,840 But if like I've got that in the book and then you turn around 677 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,480 turn the pages or whatever. If you've got your token 678 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,920 tracking your mark on your movement on the map, like you 679 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,600 can't be turning the page because it's it's fixed. 680 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,720 And so it will be that that sheet is going to is it will be 681 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,360 on the inside back cover of the book mainly. 682 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,000 So if people get the book they can like photocopy, put that on 683 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,720 the photocopier and like get this. 684 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400 There's also you can always get the PD printable PDF from my 685 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,800 website for free. But but yeah, the idea is like, 686 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,080 if all you have is this book and you could at least like, throw 687 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,400 that on a photocopier and get your own sheet on a separate 688 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,000 piece of paper that you can play a game on and then throw away 689 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,760 and you still have your your original right there in the back 690 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,280 of the book. Well, that's one thing that's a 691 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,440 lot in your website, which is great to see too, is you have a 692 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,760 lot of like free downloadable content for your games. 693 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,200 Like a lot of the maps and stuff like that you can just go right 694 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,080 to and download and that's a that's a great thing to have for 695 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,600 everyone. So they can actually play your 696 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,440 game, which is which is nice. Yeah. 697 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,040 So I that was like a, like, I don't remember I mentioned the 698 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,880 first thing I made was that Mark Borg module. 699 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,320 And that was one of the first comments was like, hey, can I 700 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,400 get like a blank, an unmarked map that I can like show my 701 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,800 players so they can see where they are. 702 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,240 And I was like, yeah, that's true. 703 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,080 That's great. And so I and then when I started 704 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,960 selling the modules as physical scenes, I'm like I can't hand, 705 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,440 I'm not going to hand out the map with everybody. 706 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,639 But like I also have a place on my website where you can just 707 00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,600 come grab all that stuff for free, all those supplemental 708 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,840 materials, anything you would need to help run the game. 709 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,480 And so that's why that's all there, yeah, So that the same 710 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,520 sheet will be there. So anybody that needs more can 711 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,760 always print them. That's I mean, it's such a nice 712 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,920 thing to have for people for accessibility and stuff to like 713 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,280 you don't need a making people pay ticky tack for stuff like 714 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,880 that. I feel like would be more 715 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,320 driving away than people being like this cool guy has this cool 716 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,480 stuff and I can just download it for free. 717 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,840 Here you go. Yeah, for the games as well. 718 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,360 So did you. So is that that's our highest 719 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,000 tier because just like Pendeon, you know, I'm, you know I'm a 720 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,480 I'm a highest tier kind of person. 721 00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:52,840 No, I thought so. I thought a lot about doing like 722 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,600 a box set that had those little plastic cubes so you could move 723 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,480 them around and had the dice so you could have, here's your 8D6 724 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,200 like 8 is about the optimal amount because when you look at 725 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,080 the Saint sheet over there, there's the two squares that 726 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,400 have the the six pips in them and so those are 18mm squares 727 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,200 when you print it. So it can fit a standard 16 728 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,240 millimeter D6. So you're going to use AD 6 to 729 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:17,680 track in those two positions. And then the most you would need 730 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,720 otherwise are the six for the available gods part. 731 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:22,160 So like I was thinking about I could have 8D6 in that box and a 732 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,640 bunch of those little red cubes and then some little tiles to 733 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,400 mark on the map where the gods are falling. 734 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,720 And it quickly like this is I'm making a board game now and I 735 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:30,920 don't want to make a board game right now. 736 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,080 Like I don't have the like fitting all into the box. 737 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,200 Board games are a whole different beast, and maybe I'll 738 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,400 be jumping into that at some point. 739 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,040 But for this I'm like, look, I'm just doing my first Kickstarter. 740 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,480 Yeah, we're just going to have a book. 741 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,440 We'll have, like, we can get some nice art prints for 742 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,360 Strega's art and like, we'll sign the book. 743 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,040 But yeah, it's going to be my top tier. 744 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,280 Anything more than that, it's like it's a little too much for 745 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,000 me. There's going to be a couple 746 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,160 stretch goals. I'm going to print some, get 747 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,520 some just some stickers done of the God Skulls. 748 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,760 So that one, the one's on the cover and then there's a second 749 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:01,960 one that's on one of the spreads. 750 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,240 So we'll get some stickers for everybody. 751 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,920 And then another stretch goal is going to be two player rules. 752 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,800 So I've got in my head roughly how you would do a competitive 753 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,320 two player game. Essentially it's a race and 754 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:19,200 yeah, it'll just, I haven't yet taken the time to write it all 755 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,640 out and play test it, but I think it could probably work and 756 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,400 there's room in the book for it. So we'll see how that goes. 757 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,600 Yeah. No, I mean smart. 758 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,280 Super smart. Especially for for your first 759 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:36,360 Kickstarter. Not having stuff is great. 760 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,320 Stuff is for 2nd, 3rd, special editions when you know you got a 761 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,120 big audience for it. I mean the number of of I've 762 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,160 only backed a couple 100 Kickstarters and I got to tell 763 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,880 you what all the ones that have bits and bobs and stuff like 764 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,120 that especially for first first Kickstarters man. 765 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,160 Not only is it so difficult as far as fulfillment and all the 766 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,200 the stuff but I mean the amount of stress it's gonna put on you 767 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,880 and those are always a project that take longest to deliver and 768 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,120 the longer you have from the from funding to delivery the 769 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,440 less people care about your game you know so it's it's you know 770 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,080 especially for early projects it's it's much better to do 771 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,200 something like this. You know you already said the 772 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,720 accessibility was people you know you have you have the dice. 773 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:20,840 So people can already have the dice. 774 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,520 That's such a smart choice in my opinion to to keep it to the 775 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,560 Zine and a couple of things and maybe in the future doing 776 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,640 something that's really good to hear. 777 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,440 Anytime I see someone's like, here's a but here's a box with 778 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,800 80 things in it, I'm like, fuck, that's like an extra year right 779 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,960 there. Like like you have to get all 780 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,640 those things and put it in a box and then I got to pay even more 781 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,440 shipping to get it to me, so. Yeah, no, it's like, it's really 782 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,760 nice when I can just do media mail and I can be like you. 783 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,680 It's like, sure, pay me 5 bucks. 6 bucks I can get this shipped 784 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,680 to you versus like now I've got a box with all these things and 785 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,120 maybe it's going to weigh a whole bunch of like all of a 786 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,120 sudden it's 10 bucks just to send send it from like from here 787 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,840 to like the next state over. And it's just it's a lot. 788 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,200 And I don't. I'm just first like I said first 789 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,400 time and I've everything that I'm doing for this, I've already 790 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:06,960 done. I've already printed zines. 791 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,840 I've sold zines. I've shipped zines. 792 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,160 So, like, let's just do a Zine to get started. 793 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,840 That's that's really smart. I I got to say you you're like 794 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,480 pro you're kind of prolific already at least as far as the 795 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,600 stuff you put out. Like everything that I've seen 796 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,080 from you has been really fantastic. 797 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,160 This looks really great. Like I I'm surprised I haven't 798 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,480 heard more about some of the stuff that you've made and I'm 799 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,400 really hoping that this really pushes that more into I think 800 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,520 the consciousness on on maybe it's just not Twitter maybe I'm 801 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,680 too stuck in my own loop. But you, you have a lot of stuff 802 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,800 with a lot of experience with a lot of different systems. 803 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,440 It all looks fantastic, it all plays great and it's like 804 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,080 everything you make seems to just be a banger. 805 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:58,280 So I'm super excited for Godspark, but do you have plans 806 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,800 for like what's coming next after Godspark? 807 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,320 I know you said you have like a note sheet of like all these 808 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,040 ideas. There's. 809 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,600 Thousands of ideas. So the next thing that will be 810 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,840 coming out is going to be the tarot card game. 811 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,320 So that is going back to journaling. 812 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,360 It's called endling. So on the topic of you die at 813 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,280 the end of the game. So the word endling in this 814 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,440 respect came from a twit discussion on Twitter that that 815 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,080 word means the last of a species. 816 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,680 So you were the last human. And so it's it's going to be so 817 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,840 that's obviously not going to have a happy ending, but it can 818 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,520 be a successful ending. So it's going to be a journaling 819 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,040 game, but there's actually going to be a winning of that game as 820 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,200 well. It's going to use a a hex flower 821 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:44,080 to track your movement around the world as you're moving from 822 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,760 where the bunker where you've been holed up while every other 823 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,520 human has died to some as yet undetermined goal. 824 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:55,880 So you're going to be moving towards a goal and the Tarot 825 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,400 cards, which is a bit like a anemonesis. 826 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,960 The idea of you the you draw from a minor Arcana to give you 827 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,680 a prompt, and then you draw from the Major Arcana to give you 828 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,080 some inspiration if you need it, to answer the prompt. 829 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,040 So it's going to be sort of like one of those games. 830 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,520 And then with the cards that you draw, you're going to be 831 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,040 building the history of this last human. 832 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,560 And then if you manage to make it to the last to the end 833 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,840 without running out of resources because it is still going to be 834 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,760 a bit of a resource management game, then you'll be able to 835 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,400 figure out what it was that you had to do and why you had to do 836 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,480 it and who you were doing it for. 837 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,480 That kind of a thing. But it's all all that together 838 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,800 is, is is sort of built into this journaling game. 839 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,040 So that's probably the thing that's the product I've got 840 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,680 closest to completion, which I doubt. 841 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,160 I I don't know. It's it's one of these things 842 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,200 like maybe I'll do another Kickstart. 843 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,560 We'll see how this one goes. I haven't decided. 844 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,720 Or I'll just put it on itch on like a Sunday night and maybe 845 00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:50,800 somebody will see it. I don't know. 846 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,840 Let's. See what happens. 847 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,720 Yeah. So I mean and it it sounds great 848 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,960 too, like I've I'm just excited to start just snatching up your 849 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,600 entire backlog and and seeing what comes next. 850 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,200 I mean this godspark of all the things you've done, like I love 851 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,720 Mark Berg, I love Cyborg. I mean that's literally like all 852 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:11,280 of this is all of that, you know, But you know solo 853 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,760 adventure games, like you said, a lot of people are really into 854 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,040 solo games cause a lot of people, you know, either I mean 855 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,440 COVID is still a thing and some people don't want a whole table 856 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,440 full of people or yeah, sometimes you know, their 857 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,720 friends just aren't into this kind of thing. 858 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:25,240 So being able to sit down and have the same kind of fun you 859 00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:29,120 can have from like AD and D Ish game or whatever is, is really 860 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,640 great. So I'm, I'm super excited for 861 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,920 this. I love solo adventure games, and 862 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,080 this one sounds great. Kickstarter is dropping on 863 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,080 Tuesday the 23rd. Yes, this episode will. 864 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,040 I'll try to have it up before then, no worries. 865 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,040 But as far as all the rest of the stuff we've talked about as 866 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,200 far as Sprinkles is missing, as far as all the previous games 867 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,880 you've already done, where can people find those things? 868 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,120 You're I I, you know, on the screen over there is your 869 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,200 website. But what's the website? 870 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,880 And where can people find all the rest of your stuff? 871 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,040 So yeah, so mallanhall.com has at the very least, links to 872 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,320 everything. I have my physical store there 873 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,560 where I sell stuff that I also sell at conventions, which is 874 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,720 most of the bigger products. So most of my modules are 875 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:14,560 available there. Digitally, I've got everything 876 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,600 on Itch as well as, like we've been talking about earlier, I do 877 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,040 lots of like, random little jams on Itch because that's fun and 878 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,560 fun to spark creativity and stuff like that. 879 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,200 So I've got lots of weird little games on there on Itch, and then 880 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,560 I do have a handful of games that I put on drive through RPG. 881 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,960 Not the whole catalog there, but if that's where you like to 882 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,840 shop, I do have a few products available through that 883 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,280 marketplace. And then for socials, most 884 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:46,320 places on M, under score, Allen, under score, Hall, all that's 885 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,160 you can link. There's links to all the socials 886 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,960 from the website. So as you know, socials change, 887 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,200 which they do. All that stuff stays updated 888 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,080 there. Yeah, you know and and and in 889 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,920 the podcast or VOD or YouTube, whatever looking at, we'll make 890 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,160 sure that all of those links are are down below. 891 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,480 So you guys can just go click on that. 892 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,920 Well, listen, it's been really great talking to you and I'm 893 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,840 super excited for not only Godspark, but all the stuff you 894 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,520 have going forward. Like I said, you're pushing all 895 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,840 my buttons as far as games that I enjoy playing in, systems I 896 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,320 enjoy doing. So it's definitely great to see 897 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,960 and I'm excited for what's coming next. 898 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,680 Well, thank you. Thank you so much. 899 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,440 And yeah, definitely thank you for having me on. 900 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,600 It's been great talking to you. Yeah, no, I really appreciate 901 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,800 you being here. So that'll be our episode for 902 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,800 today. Definitely go check out Godspark 903 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,560 on Kickstarter. We'll make sure that the link is 904 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,360 in everything below. So you can just click on that. 905 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,600 And thank you for being here and we will talk to you all later. 906 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,080 Bye.