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 Hello  and  welcome  to  the 
 weekly  scroll  podcast.  My 

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 name  is  Ryan  and  I'm  not 
 Jared  Crater.  But 

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 I  am.  Look 
 at  us.  And 

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 this  is  not  Cat  Chats 
 Episode  three.  Are 

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 we  talk  about  not  cats, 
 but  mostly  tip -top  role 

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-playing  games?  Jared, 
 how  are  you  doing  this 

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 morning?  This 
 afternoon?  It 

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 says,  yeah,  time  zones.  I'm
 doing  pretty  all  right  thus

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 far.  It's 
 it's  a  Friday  in  RPG  land.

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 And 
 I'm  here  on  the  show  with 

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 you  two.  Nice. 
 You  got  some  some  stuff 

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 cooking  right  now.  We 
 do.  Anglin. 

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 We  do  a  lot.  Always 
 cook.  Always 

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 cook.  Do 
 we  want  to  talk  about  it? 

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 I 
 know.  I 

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 don't  think.  No. 
 Let's  talk  about  something 

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 else  actually.  Anything. 
 But  for  a  second,  I 

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 realized  we  were  like  in 
 the  show.  It's 

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 like  one  of  those  where 
 you're  just  like,  you  know,

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 where  you're  watching  a 
 horror  movie  and  then  all 

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 of  a  sudden  in  the  horror 
 movie,  you're  watching  the 

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 the  person,  the  pro  tag  is
 watching.  TV 

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 or  some  video  monitor, 
 right?  And 

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 then  flickers  really  quick 
 and  then  whatever  they're 

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 watching,  flickers  to  like 
 a  POV  camera  over  their 

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 shoulder  of  them  watching 
 TV.  And 

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 I  was  just  like,  that's 
 where  I  was  at  for  just  a

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 second.  First 
 split.  Second. 

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 I  feel  a  lot  of  inception,
 you  know.  So. 

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 The  lowest  hanging  fruit. 
 What's 

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 up  to  Phil  right  now?  What
 we  got  coming  up?  What's 

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 up?  Was 
 full  fulfillment.  It 

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 feels  like  it  feels  like 
 we're  on  show.  I 

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 like  it.  We 
 got  the  map.  Let's 

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 see  if  this  messes  with 
 the  camera.  We 

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 got  the  maps  in  for 
 Forbidden  Song.  So 

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 I  don't  know  how  many 
 people  here.  I'll 

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 hold  it  up  and  try  to 
 talk  around  at  the 

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 microphone.  Um. 
 I  don't  know  how  many 

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 people  are  familiar  with 
 highway  maps.  I 

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 know  that  that's  a  thing 
 that's  not  like  a  common 

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 thing  these  days.  Did 
 it  really  do  it  with  the 

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 camera?  It 
 really  did  it  with  the 

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 high  contrast.  It's 
 just  this  fancy  camera.  I 

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 don't  know  what  the  deal 
 is.  OK, 

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 we'll  put  it.  I'll 
 put  it  down,  camera.  Don't 

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 die  on  us.  Don't 
 die.  Oh. 

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 Oh.  Oh. 
 The  camera's  too  fancy. 

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 It's 
 too  finicky.  It's 

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 so  it's  a  picky  eater.  You
 got  to  get  a  wild.  Can 

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 you  still  hear  me  less? 
 Yeah, 

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 absolutely.  We 
 can.  Absolutely. 

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 So  podcast,  you're  good. 
 Yeah. 

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 OK.  I 
 love  it.  I 

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 love  this  camera.  I 
 really  do.  I 

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 really  enjoy  the  camera. 
 Don't 

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 worry.  We'll 
 edit  this  out  in  post. 

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 Right. 
 No,  I  can't  figure  it  out.

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 All 
 I  do  is  plug  it  in, 

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 unplug  it  and  plug  it  back
 in.  And 

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 then  it'll  work  for  a 
 little  while.  And 

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 so  we'll  just  have 
 regularly  scheduled 

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 blackouts.  You're 
 just  giving  the  old  in  and

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 out,  you  know.  Right. 
 Right.  And 

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 how  you  fix  things.  There 
 we  go.  Did 

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 it  do  it  again?  Seriously. 
 OK.  Anyway, 

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 highway  maps.  Yay, 
 I've  got  highways  in  my 

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 head.  I'm 
 actually  currently  working 

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 on  a  highway  crawl.  I 
 think  I  mentioned  to  Ryan 

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 the  other  day  that  on 
 Uncanny  Highway,  I've 

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 discovered  this  is  free, 
 free  promo  for  Uncanny 

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 Highway  Blue  Plate  Special 
 Edition.  If 

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 you  all  are  looking  to  do 
 a  highway  crawl  of  any 

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 sort,  it's  a  fairly 
 comprehensive  tool  kit  for 

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 building  a  highway  crawl  on
 the  Uncanny  Highway,  which 

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 is  Route  28,  which  doesn't 
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 you  like  generate  up 
 sections  of  like  100  mile 

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 sections  of  the  road  and 
 all  this  other  great  stuff.

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 Super, 
 super,  super  great  book. 

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 It's 
 in  PDF  form  right  now,  but

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 I'm  thinking  that  the 
 creators,  if  they  follow 

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 what  they've  done  before, 
 they  will  make  it 

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 available,  POD.  I'm 
 highly  suggesting  it.  And 

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 like  as  a  person  who  works
 with  a  lot  of  RPG  stuff 

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 and  reads  a  lot  of  RPG 
 stuff,  it's  really  great 

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 when  something  when  I 
 stumble  upon  something  out 

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 of  left  field  that  I 
 wasn't  even  looking  for, 

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 but  then  just  gets  me 
 fired  up  to  work.  Anyway, 

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 highway  maps.  The 
 paper  that  the  Forbidden 

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 Somme  maps  on  is  that  nice
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 if  it's  even  a  tiny  bit 
 thicker,  then  most  of  the 

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 free  highway  maps  that  you 
 get  it  like  with.  Like 

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 if  you  when  you  pull  into 
 a  rest  stop  and  stuff  like

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 that  and  you  have  that  and
 it  all  folds  out,  I'm  not 

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 going  to  open  it  again 
 because  the  camera  will  get

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 mad.  But 
 a  super  cool  map.  Actually,

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 if  you're  following  on  the 
 Kickstarter  page,  I  know  a 

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 lot  of  your  viewers,  a  lot
 of  the  viewers  probably 

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 are.  We 
 posted  some  pictures.  I 

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 put  some  some  minis  and 
 some  of  my  crap  sack 

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 terrain  together  yesterday 
 afternoon  to  kind  of  play 

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 for  it.  So 
 we're  super  stoked  because 

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 there  is  a  local  game 
 group  called.  I 

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 can't  remember  the  day. 
 Dan, 

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 I  just  met  them  turns  out 
 speaking  of  UPS  turns  out 

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 one  of  the  folks  who  works
 at  the  UPS  where  I  go  to 

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 drop  off  our  large,  large 
 package  shipments  and  stuff 

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 like  that  is  one  of  the 
 directors  of  a  local  area 

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 game  group  and  they  have 
 these  quarterly  meetups 

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 called  Big  Game  Bash  Live. 
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 they're  having  one  not  this
 weekend,  but  next  weekend. 

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 So 
 we're  going  to  take  all  of

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 the  all  of  the  pre 
 essentially  pre -release 

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 stuff  for  forbidden  Psalm 
 and  we're  going  to  set  up 

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 with  my,  like  I  said,  my 
 crap  sack  terrain  and  my 

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 badly  painted  miniatures. 
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 we're  going  to  run 
 forbidden  Psalm,  get  this 

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 in  a  church.  I 
 love  it.  I 

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 love  it.  I 
 love  it.  It's 

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 going  to  be  great.  But 
 also  somebody  is  actually 

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 they  demo  a  lot  of  board 
 games  and  stuff  there  too. 

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 And 
 someone's  running  Shadows  of

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 Brimstone.  So 
 I  get  to  play  some  Shadows

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 of  Brimstone,  which  I 
 haven't  played  in  a  long 

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 time.  Also 
 a  classic.  It's 

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 not  really  a  RPG,  but 
 there's  like  narrative 

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 elements  to  it.  It's 
 a  good  board  game.  Anyway, 

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 forbidden  Psalm  is  getting 
 closer  to  fulfilling.  We 

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 are  waiting  on  the. 
 Replacement 

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 pivot.  Zine 
 that  should  be  coming.  I 

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 know  that  will  got 
 notification  that  his  are 

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 shipping  and  should  arrive 
 next  week.  And 

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 then  I  just  shipped  him 
 several  boxes  of  these  maps

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 and  several  boxes  of 
 dreadnights,  hardcover  and 

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 softcover  to  fill  out  all 
 of  the  add -ons.  By 

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 the  way,  go  back  in  time 
 and  remind  past  me.  You 

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 said  you  had  a  time 
 machine  earlier,  Hunter.  I 

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 did.  Yeah, 
 I'm.  Remind 

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 past  me  to  not  do  so  many
 damn  add -ons  on  a  on  a 

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 crowdfund  or  just  brace  for
 dealing  with  add -ons.  It's 

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 a  good  time.  Yeah, 
 you  got  a  good  time.  I'll 

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 get  I'll  make  it.  This 
 is  also  a  new  day  for  the

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 next  one,  you  know.  Yeah, 
 exactly.  No, 

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 we'll  we'll  and  I've 
 already  talked  about  in 

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 this  world  about  like 
 limiting  them.  We 

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 want  to  make  stuff 
 available,  but  it's  just 

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 it's  the  trick  of  it's.  I 
 mean,  it's  just  it's  the 

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 work,  you  know,  it's 
 listen.  What 

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 is  what  is  the  show? 
 Listen 

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 to  Jared  complain  about 
 work,  but  it's  just  a 

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 trick  of  making  all  of 
 those  spreadsheets  make 

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 sense  when  you're  importing 
 it  to  whatever  software 

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 you're  using  to  interface 
 with  shipping  services  and 

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 stuff  like  that.  And 
 in  this  case,  like  I  say, 

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 but  editing  in  less  is 
 more.  You 

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 really  do  want  to  have  all
 those  books  because  say  you

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 got  someone  who's  new  to 
 your  and  who's  new  to  the 

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 entire  line  of  forbidden 
 song.  And 

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 they  really  want  to  get 
 all  this  stuff  because  they

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 really  want  to  get  it  all 
 at  once.  And, 

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 you  know,  quote  unquote, 
 save  on  shipping.  And 

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 at  the  same  time,  you're 
 also  dealing  with  like  pick

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 and  pack.  I 
 mean,  luckily,  my  wonderful 

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 partner  Debbie  picks  and 
 packs  all  of  the  orders 

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 because  she  won't  let  me 
 touch  the  orders.  And 

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 she  really  does  seriously 
 enjoy  like  the  maybe  next 

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 time  I'm  on  the  show, 
 we'll  do  zoom  from  my 

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 phone  and  we  can  talk 
 about  different  parts  of 

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 the  way  or  I  can  I  can 
 set  the  phone  up  on  the 

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 tripod  and  then  we  can  I 
 can  just  do  it  from  in 

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 there.  The 
 audio  quality  might  be  a 

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 little  bit  crap  because  I 
 have  to  be  on  Bluetooth. 

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 But 
 yeah,  it  would  be  it  would

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 be  kind  of  fun  because 
 then  we  can.  I 

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 mean,  it's  not  really  that 
 exciting.  It's 

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 really  a  bunch  of  boxes 
 labeled  up  and  stuff  like 

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 that.  You 
 know,  it's  like  I  know 

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 some  of  my  friends  who  run
 stores  are  just  like,  why 

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 are  you  giving  away  the 
 secrets?  And, 

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 you  know,  it  really  is 
 just  a  bunch  of  boxes.  But

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 it's  it's  pretty  neat 
 getting  to  work  with  your 

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 best  friend  and  pretty  neat
 being  able  to  know  what 

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 she  wants  to  do  with  stuff
 and  then  me,  you  know, 

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 accommodating  that  because 
 she's  had,  you  know,  X 

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 amount  of  years  of 
 experience  working  in  retail

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 and  doing  operations  in 
 back  of  like  it's  what  she

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 does  for  a  living.  And 
 then  to  recreate  that,  but 

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 she's  in  control  of  it.  So
 it's  a  streamlined  process, 

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 you  know,  as  opposed  to 
 we've  all  worked  corporate 

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 jobs  before.  And, 
 you  know,  there's  always 

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 something  and  you're  just 
 like,  why  the  fuck  are 

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 they  doing  this  thing  this 
 way?  You 

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 know,  anyway,  it's  a  bit 
 cool  to  see.  Cool 

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 to  see  how  the  sausage  is 
 made.  I 

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 think  I  mean,  you  know, 
 it's  just  a  couple  boxes. 

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 I 
 mean,  that's  what  that's 

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 what  we're  here  for,  is  to
 see  all  the  bits  and 

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 pieces  of  space  playing 
 when,  you  know,  turning 

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 around  and  lift  off  the 
 tail  all  that  bit.  Right. 

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 we're  at  with  Forbidden 
 Zom.  And 

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 then,  yeah,  right  before 
 the  right  before  we  started

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 the  call,  Will  smashed  you 
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 of  In  those  Horrors  from 
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 it  looks  so  cool.  Yeah, 
 all  of  the  art.  So 

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 I  don't  I  don't  know  if 
 we've  really  talked  about 

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 it,  but  I'm  going  to  I'm 
 going  to  spoil  it.  Ha 

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 ha,  Will.  Will, 
 who  did,  who  will,  if  you 

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 all  don't  know,  will  they 
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 we've  got  his  stuff  in 

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 Dreadnights  and  all  kinds 
 of  other  stuff.  And 

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 there's  also  a  book  called 
 Skeletons  with  Bill  and 

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 Eric.  That's 
 going  to  come  out  sometime.

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 That's 
 another  sneak  promo.  I 

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 we're  going  to  have  a  book
 of  skeletons.  That's 

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 just  going  to  be  skeletons.
 I 

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 love  it.  But 
 anyway,  Bill  has  worked  on 

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 with  Will.  And 
 done  all  the  art  for 

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 Endless  Writers.  And 
 I  am  super  excited  for 

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 Endless  Writers.  Like 
 it's  going  to  like  it's 

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 going  to  be  so  good.  Yeah,
 I  like  to  throw  the  cover 

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 up  on  screen  here.  I 
 think  so.  I 

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 think  it's  been  kind  of 
 teased  here  a  few  places. 

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 I 
 think  I  saw  it  on  the 

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 interweb  somewhere.  I 
 mean,  I've  seen  this  before

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 and  I  feel  like  it  was 
 maybe  Instagram.  So 

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 we'll  toss  it  over  here 
 and  let  the  be  this  cover 

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 is  fucking  amazing.  I 
 love  it.  So 

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 much  really  good  cover. 
 It's 

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 so  good.  Look 
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 oh.  For 
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 listening  and  not  watching, 
 they  don't  get  it.  They 

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 don't  know  you  should  you 
 should  go  to  the  YouTube. 

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 It's 
 it's  like  a  it's  a  woman 

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 crying  blood.  It 
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 mother  of  God.  And 
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 her.  And 
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 light  behind  her.  It's 
 a  fantastic  piece.  And 

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 it  is  just  as  creepy  as  I
 would  want  a  forbidden 

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 Psalms  cover  to  be.  No, 
 I  love  the  I  keep  saying 

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 I  keep  saying  beyond  the 
 stars  and  it's  between  the 

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 stars.  It's 
 because  I  haven't  opened 

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 the  package  and  started  the
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 I'm  not.  Fire 
 me  on  the  editor.  It's 

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 fine.  Beyond 
 between.  It's 

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 there.  It's 
 it's  there.  It 

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 starts  at  the  I  love  the. 
 The 

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 font  that  the  forbidden 
 Psalm  is  is  done  in.  It's 

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 it's  like  fire,  but  it's 
 that  like  old  style  fire. 

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 don't  know  if  people  know 

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 what  I'm  talking  about. 
 Like 

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 when  you  would  see  it  on 
 like  old  parchment  stuff, 

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 how  they  would  draw  it. 
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 it's  it  looks  really 
 fantastic.  It's 

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 very  vibrant  on  the  black 
 and  white  drawing.  It's 

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 it's  it's  dope.  It's 
 a  very  sick  cover.  It 

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 does  only  long  at  home. 
 This 

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 is  some  of  my  first  chance
 to  actually  see  this.  I'm 

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 now  scanning  through  this 
 PDF.  I've 

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 seen  a  lot  of  the  art  as 
 it's  been  dropped.  But 

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 usually  part  of  you  know, 
 you're  talking  about  how 

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 Usually 

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 will.  Goes 
 full  on  demon  on  it  for, 

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 you  know,  months  and  then 
 in  his  case,  a  month  and 

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 bang  bang  bang.  And 
 so  I  see  a  lot  of  the 

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 art  as  it  kind  of  trickles
 in,  but  I  don't  see  it  in

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 context  of  what  it's 
 representing  as  far  as.  The

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 individual  pages.  Yeah. 
 Yeah,  no,  I'm  I'm  I'm 

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 stoked  for  it,  too.  It's 
 heavy  on  the  it's  heavy  on

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 the  blacks.  There's 
 a  lot  of  black  and  white 

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 and  red.  I 
 think  we've  done  another 

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 black,  white  and  red  book. 
 What 

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 do  you  know?  What 
 do  you  know?  Hey, 

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 that's  my  that's  my 
 favorite  color  combo.  But 

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 this  thing  is  it's  it's 
 it's  beef.  Am 

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 I  allowed  to  save  the  page
 count  on  this  thing?  Yeah, 

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 yeah,  it's  a  rough  page 
 count.  Go 

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 for  it.  It's 
 like  160  pages.  Yeah, 

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 it's  going  to  be  a  big 
 one.  That's 

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 so  cool.  Thing 
 about  it  is  you  don't  have

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 to  have  it  like  a  lot  of 
 the  standalone  sets.  Like 

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 you  don't  have  to  or  the 
 books  or  whatever  you  want 

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 to  call  it.  They're 
 not  sets  because  we  don't 

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 really  have  to.  But 
 you  can  play  endless 

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 horrors  with  forbidden  song.
 But 

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 also  if  you're  a  gamer  and
 you're  like,  no,  I've  got 

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 enough  skirmish  games  where 
 I  have,  you  know,  a  five 

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 to  10  member  war  band  and 
 I  do  this  and  people  will 

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 blah  and  this  case.  It's 
 using  the  chassis  underneath

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 from  F .P.  But 
 your  cultists  are  actually 

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 your  you're  the  cultists 
 and  you're  trying  to  summon

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 your  endless  horror  from 
 between  the  stars,  right? 

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 So 
 it's  always  to  like 

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 generate  that  up  and  stuff.
 And 

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 then  like  I'm  not  going  to
 give  away  too  much  of  the 

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 spoilers.  But 
 but  it's  a  it's  a  fun 

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 take.  You 
 know,  it's  like  you  are 

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 you  are  the  cultists  who 
 are  bringing  forth  this 

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 thing  that  comes  for  you, 
 right?  And 

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 then  there's  like  tables 
 for  generating  up  all  of 

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 the  thing.  And 
 the  usual,  you  know, 

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 artifacts,  injuries,  treasure
 rolls  and  stuff  like  that. 

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 So 
 and  then  this  one's  going 

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 to  be  simpler  as  far  as 
 like  stretch  goals  and  add 

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 ons  where  we're  we're  we're
 we're  dialing  this  one  back

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 to  just  a  little  bit. 
 Mostly 

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 in  the  interest  of. 
 Repeatable 

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 process,  you  know,  when  you
 when  you  know  what  you're 

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 doing  and  you  know  how  to 
 do  it,  you  know,  and 

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 specifically  like  we  know 
 which  printer  we're  using. 

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 We're 
 using  Xam  and  a  lot  of 

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 folks  are  just  like,  oh, 
 it's  not  as  expensive  in 

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 your  it's  sorry,  it's  it's 
 not  inexpensive  and  you're 

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 leaving  more  money  on  the 
 table.  And 

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 our  trick  is  we  want  to 
 get  cool  stuff  into  the 

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 world.  Like 
 this  stuff,  like  when  Will 

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 starts  working  on  it,  he 
 just  kind  of  goes  wild  on 

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 it  and  just  like  boom, 
 boom,  boom.  And 

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 the  thing  is  done.  And 
 like  for  someone  like  me 

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 who  loves  to  edit  and 
 loves  to  just  get  in 

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 there,  like  it's  great  to 
 have.  You 

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 know,  several  times  a  year,
 it's  like,  here's  this  big 

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 ass  pile  of  stuff  to  do. 
 Right. 

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 And  then  I'm  just  like, 
 boom.  And 

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 then  I  can  jump  into  it. 
 So 

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 now  it's  really  it's  really
 great  working  with  Will. 

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 And 
 in  getting  these  out.  So 

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 I'm  always  so  impressed 
 with  how  good  each  of  the 

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 Forbidden  Psalms  is,  like 
 in  their  own  way.  And 

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 it's  an  extension  of  like 
 that.  Merckborg 

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 that  I  still  am  very,  very
 like  into,  you  know,  I'm 

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 kind  of  not  doing  a  lot 
 of  Borg  stuff  anymore. 

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 Forbidden 
 Psalms  has  just  become  so 

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 its  own  thing.  Like 
 I  still  love  the  last  one.

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 Like 
 I  still  think  that  one  is 

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 just  like,  I  love  that 
 one.  But 

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 Super  Stokefist,  I  love  the
 idea  of  like  being  the 

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 cultists  summoning  the  dark 
 thing  instead  of  being  the 

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 heroes  fighting  the  cultists
 summoning  the  dark  thing. 

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 Right. 
 So  there's  a  little  bit  of

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 last  born  news.  I 
 don't  know  if  we've 

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 mentioned  it  on  the  show 
 before,  but  there  is  a. 

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 Will 
 has  worked  to  deal  with 

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 Wargames  Atlantic.  And 
 I  don't  know  if  you  all 

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 know  WGA,  but  they  do 
 ranges  of  miniatures  of  all

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 kinds  of  stuff  and  they 
 had  a  World  War  One  weird 

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 war.  Range. 
 I'm  not  even  completely 

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 familiar  with  their  entire 
 product  catalog,  but  I  will

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 be.  I 
 promise.  And 

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 we've  partnered  with  them 
 to  do  a  boxed  set.  So 

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 it'll  have  a  bunch  of 
 their  sprues  in  there.  And 

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 then  a  revised  revamped 
 version  of  the  last  war. 

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 It'll 
 be  the  first  place.  The 

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 first  place  to  get  it  will
 be  in  the  box  set  from 

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 them.  We're 
 going  to  then  at  a  later 

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 time  put  out  that  revised 
 and  expanded  last  war.  And 

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 that  will  include  the 
 trench  coats  and  trench 

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 cats  expansion  that  we  that
 we  did  back  when  we  did 

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 the  Kickstarter  for  that 
 one  that  we  put  on 

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 newsprint.  Newspaper, 
 which  is  really  super  great

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 fun  and  awesome.  And, 
 you  know,  wonderful  to 

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 learn  how  to  work  with. 
 The. 

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 The  printing  on  newsprint, 
 but  very,  very,  very,  very 

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 different  than  printing 
 normal  books,  normal  books, 

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 quote,  unquote.  But 
 it  was  still  still  pretty 

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 fun.  Ryan's 
 digging  for  it.  Ryan's 

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 got  it.  There 
 it  is.  The 

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 night  bastion  trench  coats 
 and  trench  cats.  So 

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 yeah,  all  of  that  has  been
 reworked  from  those  tabloid 

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 size  newspaper  and  has  been
 worked  into  added  pages  in 

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 the  book.  And 
 then  just  the  general  rules

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 clean  up  like  that's  the 
 trick  with  every  iteration 

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 of  forbidden  solemn  is 
 we're  always  taking  into 

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 account.  Player 
 feedback  and  and  and  and 

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 and  in  user  stuff.  And 
 we  incorporate  that  into 

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 the  next  iteration,  whether 
 it's,  you  know,  like  the 

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 end  times  edition  or  it's 
 dreadnights  or  just  pill 

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 sample  process,  stuff  like 
 that.  You 

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 know,  we're  we're  always 
 trying  to  sharpen  it  up. 

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 Most 
 of  because  we  realize 

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 different  readers  read 
 things  differently  and 

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 interpret  things  differently.
 And 

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 our  our  eventual  goal  is 
 to  try  to  get.  Most 

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 of  the  you  you're  never 
 going  to  you're  never  going

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 to  say  a  sentence  the 
 exact  way  so  that  every 

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 single  person  understands, 
 but  we're  always  kind  of 

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 we're  always  kind  of  we 
 are  always  improving  how  we

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 deliver  rules  and  mechanics 
 and  stuff  like  that.  So. 

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 We  always  appreciate  that 
 space  penguin  process,  you 

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 know,  the  constant  tweets 
 of  improvement.  Yeah. 

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 You  know,  and  and  one 
 thing  the  hunter  said 

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 before  is  something  that  I 
 is  just  always  fascinates 

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 me  with  forbidden  some  and 
 you  guys  put  now  like 

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 monthly  stuff  where  it's 
 all  good.  Like 

395
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,880
 I  can't  put  out  a  single 
 thing  for  years  of  trying 

396
00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,520
 and  somehow  cabin  and 
 somehow.  Well, 

397
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:22,160
 can  drop  good  looking,  good
 quality,  like  well  done, 

398
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:27,720
 like.  Interesting 
 content  like  every  month. 

399
00:20:28,140 --> 00:20:30,140
 And 
 it's  just  it's  it's  crazy 

400
00:20:30,140 --> 00:20:33,900
 how  how  it  continues  to 
 keep  coming  out.  And 

401
00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,860
 then  still  we  can  get 
 something  like  this,  like 

402
00:20:35,860 --> 00:20:37,920
 the  like  between  the  stars 
 and  stuff  on  top  of  it. 

403
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,320
 So 
 it's  it's  just  crazy  how 

404
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:47,320
 much  how  creative.  And 
 yeah,  just  the  ability  to 

405
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,200
 sit  down  and  actually  do 
 that  and  do  it  well  is  is

406
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,180
 is  is  really  a  boon  for 
 them.  Well, 

407
00:20:53,220 --> 00:20:54,400
 that's  the  thing  of  that. 
 This 

408
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,980
 is  various  like  teasing  fun
 stuff  for  the  future.  I 

409
00:20:57,980 --> 00:21:00,180
 think  people  are  on  the 
 Discord  server.  They 

410
00:21:00,180 --> 00:21:05,040
 know  about  Project  Mara, 
 which  originally  was 

411
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:12,080
 intended  as.  It 
 was  going  to  be.  Scrumish, 

412
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:17,980
 miniaturing,  mothership.  But 
 we've  realized,  like,  as 

413
00:21:17,988 --> 00:21:20,980
 you  said,  you  know,  this 
 is  going  into  year  four  of

414
00:21:20,980 --> 00:21:25,440
 working  with  this  rule  set 
 specifically.  And 

415
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,060
 it's  been  refined  and 
 refined  and  refined  so  that

416
00:21:28,060 --> 00:21:30,740
 chassis  underneath  pretty 
 much  works.  But 

417
00:21:30,748 --> 00:21:34,560
 it's  never.  Yeah, 
 it  was  a  great  compliment. 

418
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,900
 I 
 think  at  100  you  said  it 

419
00:21:35,900 --> 00:21:38,659
 when,  you  know,  it's  like. 
 There 

420
00:21:38,659 --> 00:21:41,360
 may  be  both  of  you  said 
 it  in  different  ways,  but 

421
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,700
 it's  never  a  simple 
 reskinning.  I 

422
00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:46,700
 know  a  lot  of  times  when 
 people  reskin  the  rules, 

423
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,740
 chassis.  They 
 kind  of  do,  you  know,  a 

424
00:21:51,740 --> 00:21:54,860
 Pokemon  early  pallet  swap 
 where  you  just  change  the 

425
00:21:54,860 --> 00:21:56,480
 colors.  You 
 know,  so  in  this  case,  you

426
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,900
 just  change  the  name  where 
 you're  not  actually  taking 

427
00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:01,840
 the  time  to  work  with  the 
 rules  underneath  and  make 

428
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,480
 them  actually.  Sing 
 for  whatever  genre  you're 

429
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,060
 attempting  to  emulate  or 
 era.  And 

430
00:22:09,060 --> 00:22:11,060
 I  think  that's  the  one 
 really  great  thing  about 

431
00:22:11,060 --> 00:22:13,640
 Forbidden  Psalm  is  now 
 we're  getting  that  chassis 

432
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,260
 locked  in  underneath.  So 
 there  will  still  be  all  of

433
00:22:17,260 --> 00:22:21,800
 that  added  on  there  for 
 Mara,  you  know,  the  space 

434
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,280
 one,  but  it's  still  going 
 to  be  Forbidden  Psalm.  It's

435
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,560
 going  to  be  its  own  thing.
 So 

436
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,000
 that  way,  and  we're  not 
 going  to  claim  compatibility

437
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,580
 with  mothership  unless  we. 
 There 

438
00:22:30,580 --> 00:22:34,460
 will  be  like  a  rules  thing
 that  will  come  with  it. 

439
00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:37,120
 That, 
 you  know,  one  will  be  this

440
00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:40,200
 will  be  like  the  rules. 
 What 

441
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,040
 do  you  call  it? 
 Clarification. 

442
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,800
 Wow.  Words 
 are  just  leaving  me  today. 

443
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,240
 You 
 know,  it's  a  Friday,  right?

444
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,720
 It 
 is  a  Friday.  That 

445
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,280
 is  very  true.  It 
 is  right.  I 

446
00:22:50,288 --> 00:22:52,960
 can  dispute  that.  Unless 
 you're  listening  to  this  in

447
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,540
 the  future.  Right. 
 It's  like  a  compatibility 

448
00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:57,920
 or  compatibility.  There 
 we  go.  Words. 

449
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:02,800
 Look  at  us.  When 
 we're  working  towards  that, 

450
00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:06,720
 you  know,  we'll  probably 
 list  out  this  one.  You 

451
00:23:06,728 --> 00:23:08,300
 know,  if  you  want  to  make 
 this  work  with  your 

452
00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:10,460
 mothership,  when  are  you 
 going  to  make  this  one 

453
00:23:10,460 --> 00:23:11,980
 work  with  death  and  space? 
 Or 

454
00:23:11,980 --> 00:23:13,840
 you  want  to  make  this  one 
 work  with  my  personal 

455
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,440
 favorite  classic  traveler? 
 You 

456
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:20,740
 know  what  I'm  saying?  So 
 so  it's  still  going  to  be 

457
00:23:20,740 --> 00:23:22,860
 its  own  thing  and  project. 
 Well, 

458
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,980
 legitimate  salvage  is  the 
 overarching  name  of  it.  And

459
00:23:25,980 --> 00:23:27,320
 then  there'll  be  Project 
 Mara.  There'll 

460
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,020
 be  Project  this,  you  know, 
 and  other  stuff.  So 

461
00:23:30,020 --> 00:23:31,780
 that  one's  kind  of  tease 
 and  a  lot  of  people  know 

462
00:23:31,780 --> 00:23:33,360
 about  that  one.  And 
 then  also  there's  one 

463
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:38,400
 that's  near  and  dear  to  my
 heart  is  the  superheroes.  I

464
00:23:38,408 --> 00:23:41,240
 got  it.  It 
 was  really  not  that  hard 

465
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,480
 to  twist  Will's  arm  into 
 doing  superheroes.  And 

466
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,080
 then  he's  going  to  like 
 make  me  write  it  with  him.

467
00:23:47,420 --> 00:23:48,900
 So 
 like  I'm  going  to  have  a 

468
00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:54,240
 lot  of  input  with  the 
 character  powers  and 

469
00:23:55,620 --> 00:23:57,460
 archetypes  and  stuff  like 
 that.  So 

470
00:23:57,468 --> 00:24:02,560
 I  helped  out  developmentally
 on  Christian  Kessler's 

471
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,040
 Longshot  City  from  Melsoni 
 and  Arts  Council.  And 

472
00:24:06,048 --> 00:24:09,640
 when  CK  was  going  through 
 and  building  all  of  those 

473
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,340
 powers.  Oh, 
 look,  there  it  is,  too. 

474
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,060
 Wow. 
 Big  box.  I'm 

475
00:24:16,060 --> 00:24:18,040
 a  little  surprised  you  got 
 that  one,  actually.  I 

476
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,220
 don't  really  seem  like  your
 your  genre.  Do 

477
00:24:21,220 --> 00:24:24,140
 you  not  really  play  supers?
 Yeah, 

478
00:24:24,180 --> 00:24:26,780
 I  don't.  I'll 
 be  surprised  if  I  ever 

479
00:24:26,780 --> 00:24:28,460
 play  this,  but  it's 
 Melsoni.  I 

480
00:24:28,460 --> 00:24:32,200
 own  it.  Yeah, 
 it's  it's  it  supers  and 

481
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,840
 it's  good  supers.  And 
 it  comes  from  CK's  love  of

482
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,660
 supers  and  comics.  And 
 like  said,  you  know  that  I

483
00:24:39,660 --> 00:24:41,680
 help  develop  it  and  stuff 
 like  that.  And 

484
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,400
 so  it's  got  a  bunch  of 
 it's  got  it's  got  my  love 

485
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,200
 of  comic  books  and  stuff 
 in  here  and  there,  too.  So

486
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,000
 and  I'm  super  excited  to 
 do  that  same  thing  for  I'm

487
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,000
 a  big  hero  clicks  fan.  As 
 far  as  like  I'm  not  a  fan

488
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,620
 of  the  hero  clicks  rules. 
 I 

489
00:24:54,620 --> 00:24:57,300
 played  them  a  few  times 
 and  just  not  my  not  my 

490
00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:01,060
 kappa.  But 
 I  love  the  little  I  love 

491
00:25:01,060 --> 00:25:04,100
 when  hero  clicks  comes  out 
 with  a  new  set.  You 

492
00:25:04,108 --> 00:25:06,660
 know,  I'll  just  be  like, 
 oh,  cool.  I 

493
00:25:06,660 --> 00:25:09,480
 want  to  get  this  version 
 of  Kitty  pride  or  this 

494
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,440
 version  of  Nightcrawler  or 
 whatever.  You 

495
00:25:11,448 --> 00:25:15,780
 know,  so  I'm  a  mage  night 
 guy.  You 

496
00:25:15,780 --> 00:25:19,060
 know,  gotcha,  gotcha.  I 
 have  no  idea  what  hero 

497
00:25:19,060 --> 00:25:21,340
 clicks  is.  So 
 that's  what  Google's  for. 

498
00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:26,260
 It's 
 a.  A 

499
00:25:26,260 --> 00:25:32,780
 mini  insurance  skirmish  game
 that  it's  highly  licensed 

500
00:25:32,780 --> 00:25:37,320
 and  IP  with  with  kids  with
 lots.  Did 

501
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,680
 Brotsy  have  something  to  do
 at  one  point,  maybe?  No. 

502
00:25:40,420 --> 00:25:42,740
 I  don't  think  so.  With 
 kids  with  kids  puts  it 

503
00:25:42,740 --> 00:25:46,320
 out.  But 
 if  you  can  think  of  a 

504
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,220
 superhero  team,  you  can 
 probably  get  your  superhero 

505
00:25:49,220 --> 00:25:54,900
 team  in  like  whatever 
 outfit  is  was  relevant  to 

506
00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:57,520
 that  particular  time.  And 
 there's  like,  for  instance, 

507
00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:00,580
 I'm  not  like  a  huge  fan 
 of  the  Batman  or  anything 

508
00:26:00,580 --> 00:26:04,420
 like  that.  But 
 I  once  bought  a  lot  of 

509
00:26:04,420 --> 00:26:08,480
 hero  clicks  on  eBay  and  it
 came  with  17  different 

510
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,340
 Batman's.  And 
 I  was  just  like,  OK,  and 

511
00:26:13,340 --> 00:26:14,940
 there's  like  there's  like 
 Adam.  There's 

512
00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:18,140
 like  Adam  West,  the  actor. 
 As 

513
00:26:18,140 --> 00:26:20,920
 Batman  with  the  red  phone, 
 right?  And 

514
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,020
 then  there's  like  all 
 different  variations  of 

515
00:26:24,020 --> 00:26:26,080
 Batman.  There's 
 Batman  and  Damien  and 

516
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,240
 there's  Batman  and  Dick  and
 Batman,  Jason  Todd  and,  you

517
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,840
 know,  all  the  different 
 Robins  and  stuff.  So, 

518
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,780
 yeah.  So 
 does  the  base  click  when 

519
00:26:36,780 --> 00:26:39,660
 it  turns?  And 
 yeah.  And 

520
00:26:39,660 --> 00:26:42,220
 they're  heroes.  So 
 that's  your  name.  And 

521
00:26:42,220 --> 00:26:46,280
 they  did  there.  Yeah. 
 And  then  well,  because  it's

522
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,560
 spring,  a  major  night  was 
 first,  right?  I'm 

523
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,640
 hoping  somebody's  watching 
 us  and  then  the  comments 

524
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,380
 is  just  like,  you  guess, 
 don't  even  know  what  you're

525
00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:54,040
 talking  about.  Do 
 you  know  what  I'm  like?  I 

526
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,080
 really  don't.  I 
 just  like  the  little  cool 

527
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,940
 sculpts,  because  like  I 
 said,  I'm  a  huge,  I'm  a 

528
00:26:58,940 --> 00:27:01,820
 huge  Catherine  Pride  fan, 
 like  she's  there  one  of  my

529
00:27:01,820 --> 00:27:06,040
 favorite  X  men.  As 
 as  Kurt,  like  I  love,  I 

530
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,560
 love,  like  I  grew  up  on 
 reading  those.  I've 

531
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,800
 learned  to  read  on.  Claire 
 Montburn,  you  know,  era 

532
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,560
 type  stuff.  So 
 I  like  being  able  to  get 

533
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,420
 those.  I 
 also  have  like  a  Jonah  Hex

534
00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:22,240
 over  there  on  the  show. 
 Hmm. 

535
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,500
 I'm  not  really  deep  dive 
 Jonah  Hex.  So. 

536
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:30,500
 Um.  How 
 many  Audi  and  greys  riders 

537
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:34,300
 of  the  worm  and  such  is 
 good,  like  more  for  more 

538
00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:40,060
 modern  stuff,  but.  Yeah. 
 Um,  not  more  modern  stuff, 

539
00:27:40,180 --> 00:27:44,420
 more  like  mid  era.  So 
 it's  like  90s,  late  90s, 

540
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,160
 early,  early  outs.  Um. 
 Now  he's  kind  of  in  like 

541
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,140
 he's  in  the  normal  DC 
 universe.  And 

542
00:27:52,140 --> 00:27:54,140
 it's  just  kind  of  like,  I 
 mean,  it's  the  same  thing 

543
00:27:54,140 --> 00:27:55,740
 with  swamp  thing.  There's, 
 I  don't  know  if  you  can 

544
00:27:55,740 --> 00:27:58,140
 see,  but  there's  a  couple 
 of  different  kinds  of  swamp

545
00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:01,100
 things  up  there.  Like 
 swamp  thing  is  my  fave 

546
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:04,780
 and.  Yeah. 
 So  I  think  my  favorite 

547
00:28:04,780 --> 00:28:07,180
 white  lantern,  you  know, 
 right?  See, 

548
00:28:07,420 --> 00:28:09,720
 and  I  don't  even  know 
 anything  about  those  lantern

549
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,040
 stuff.  Like, 
 because  I  just,  I  don't 

550
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,740
 know.  I 
 still  collect  comic  books, 

551
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,020
 but  I  just  don't  really,  I
 don't  tend  to  read  the 

552
00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:19,780
 mainstreamy  shit.  Right. 
 Right.  Right. 

553
00:28:20,140 --> 00:28:21,860
 So,  but  I'm  not  opposed  to
 it.  But 

554
00:28:21,860 --> 00:28:24,920
 it's,  it's  fun.  If 
 you,  like  there's  the  local

555
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,840
 libraries  having  a  book 
 sale  next  weekend.  And 

556
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,820
 I'm  hoping  that  they  have, 
 they  blow  out  copies  of. 

557
00:28:31,879 --> 00:28:33,880
 Like, 
 you  know,  beaten  up  and 

558
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,440
 abused  graphic  novels  that 
 are  just  like,  we  can't 

559
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,320
 put  this  on  the  shelf. 
 It's 

560
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,940
 falling  apart.  And 
 I'll  buy  it  for  $2  because

561
00:28:39,940 --> 00:28:42,660
 I  love  reading  comics.  I 
 just,  I  love  that  stuff. 

562
00:28:43,940 --> 00:28:45,960
 Um, 
 we  totally  blew  our  whole 

563
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,460
 25,  25,  25  plan.  Oh, 
 yeah.  The 

564
00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:50,500
 fact  that  we  thought  that 
 we  had  a  plan  when  we 

565
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:52,920
 started  was  the  funniest 
 part  of  that  plan.  Oh, 

566
00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:54,840
 I  never  believed  in  that 
 plan.  Just 

567
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,120
 to  be  clear  for  everyone 
 listening,  I  did  not 

568
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,360
 believe  in  this  plan.  I 
 was  just  like,  we're  just 

569
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,000
 going  to  talk  about  stuff 
 as  we  do.  So 

570
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,740
 we  did.  Okay. 
 We  did  forbidden  songs. 

571
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,020
 Okay. 
 That's  where  we  were.  Where

572
00:29:07,020 --> 00:29:10,780
 are  we  now,  y 'all?  Um, 
 now  we  can  talk  real  quick

573
00:29:10,780 --> 00:29:13,200
 about  the  Karen  box. 
 Because 

574
00:29:13,208 --> 00:29:15,700
 it  has  a  Karen  white  box. 
 I 

575
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:20,220
 put  up  pictures  of  this  on
 the  spiel  the  other  day. 

576
00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:21,760
 Um, 
 and  we'll  hope  that  my 

577
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,960
 camera,  because  I'm  moving 
 around,  doesn't  get  reactive

578
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,300
 and  try  to  do  it.  But, 
 uh,  it's  really  sturdy  and 

579
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:30,440
 really  heavy,  you  know, 
 like  when  I,  we  put  the 

580
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,320
 weights  up  there,  like  this
 is  the  reason  that  we  got 

581
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,200
 it.  Because, 
 and  the  reason  that  it's 

582
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,160
 taken  us  three  weeks,  you 
 know,  to  get  all  of  the 

583
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,880
 shipping  costs  kind  of  like
 lowered  as  best  we  can 

584
00:29:43,299 --> 00:29:45,720
 because  it's  heavy.  There's 
 a  lot  of  stuff  that  goes 

585
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,080
 in  here.  So 
 we've  got  the  lid,  really 

586
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,140
 nice,  sturdy  lid.  You 
 can  double  this  dice  tray. 

587
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,500
 I 
 don't  know  if  anybody  does 

588
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,580
 that.  Does 
 anybody  use  dice?  Yeah, 

589
00:29:56,740 --> 00:29:58,500
 absolutely.  No 
 dice  in  here.  Check 

590
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:00,780
 out  this.  Okay. 
 So  I'm  holding  this  in  my 

591
00:30:00,780 --> 00:30:06,700
 hand  and  I'm  pulling  four 
 perfect  bound  books.  Four 

592
00:30:06,708 --> 00:30:11,840
 is  five  perfect  bound 
 books,  a  zine,  a  character 

593
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,520
 sheet  pad  and  a  five  panel
 GM  screen.  Like 

594
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,360
 it's  heavy.  Like 
 if  I  had  one  of  those 

595
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,220
 like  tensionizers,  I  could 
 tell  you  the  force  pounds 

596
00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:25,900
 of,  you  know,  pulling  this 
 out,  but  like  this  is  like

597
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:28,020
 50  pounds.  Sure. 
 Sure.  Something 

598
00:30:28,020 --> 00:30:31,200
 like  that.  Um, 
 I  have  been,  um,  testing 

599
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,160
 this  like  repeatedly,  like, 
 and  again,  and  it's  a 

600
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,780
 prototype,  but  when,  when 
 it  came  with  the  ribbon, 

601
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,320
 like,  and  that's  our 
 printers,  Shanghai  three 

602
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,780
 cats  put  that  ribbon  in 
 there.  They 

603
00:30:41,780 --> 00:30:43,140
 were  just  like,  Oh  yeah, 
 you  need  this.  And 

604
00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:45,120
 I  think  they  did  it  in 
 Justin's  because  it's  the 

605
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,560
 same  company  that  Justin  at
 separate  books  used  for  the

606
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,380
 dark  glinting  with  metal. 
 Um, 

607
00:30:52,140 --> 00:30:55,680
 so,  uh,  did  it  just  freeze
 up?  Yeah. 

608
00:30:56,460 --> 00:30:57,780
 Okay.  There 
 we  go.  No, 

609
00:30:57,820 --> 00:31:00,640
 it's  back.  Okay. 
 Maybe  it's  just  sudden 

610
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,840
 movements.  My 
 camera  doesn't  like  set 

611
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,020
 this.  It's 
 just  trolling,  man.  Right. 

612
00:31:06,220 --> 00:31:08,220
 That's  what  it  is.  But 
 it,  so  it's,  so  it's  in 

613
00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:10,560
 there.  Like 
 I,  I'm  not  going  to  try 

614
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,220
 to  pull  that  off  there, 
 but  the  bead  of,  the  bead 

615
00:31:13,220 --> 00:31:15,280
 of  adhesive  that  they  use. 
 It's 

616
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,800
 really,  it's  nice  and  firm.
 So, 

617
00:31:18,020 --> 00:31:21,360
 uh,  and  it's  nicely  butted 
 up  against  the  side  of  the

618
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,500
 box.  So 
 it  will  cover  the  whole 

619
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:26,260
 area  and  then  be  long 
 enough  that  you  can  flip 

620
00:31:26,260 --> 00:31:30,420
 it  back  around.  Um, 
 the  next  part's  kind  of 

621
00:31:30,420 --> 00:31:32,860
 boring,  but  it's  schooled 
 me.  So 

622
00:31:32,868 --> 00:31:36,020
 white  box  sample  of  the 
 warden's  guide.  It's 

623
00:31:36,020 --> 00:31:40,560
 thick  boy.  Um, 
 three  copies  of  the  players

624
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,300
 guide.  All 
 right.  One, 

625
00:31:42,380 --> 00:31:45,800
 two,  three.  Um, 
 amazing,  amazing  idea. 

626
00:31:46,020 --> 00:31:49,480
 Genuinely, 
 such  a,  like  how  a  couple 

627
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,660
 of  people,  a  couple  of 
 folks  were  just  like,  why? 

628
00:31:53,180 --> 00:31:54,820
 And 
 then  I  don't,  I  mean,  like

629
00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:57,620
 the  answer  is  we  wanted  at
 that  table.  Like, 

630
00:31:57,780 --> 00:32:00,280
 I,  you  know,  when  five  E 
 dropped,  it  was  a  way  to, 

631
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:02,720
 a  way  to  get  people  back 
 into  playing  and  there's 

632
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,840
 always  been  living  gray. 
 And 

633
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,340
 other  public  play 
 initiatives  from  publishing 

634
00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:07,900
 companies.  I 
 understand  it.  But 

635
00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:11,060
 when  five  E  dropped,  I 
 started  running  and  kind  of

636
00:32:11,060 --> 00:32:14,300
 grew  the  local  game  store 
 that  was  like  maybe  five, 

637
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,700
 seven  players.  I 
 grew  up  to  like  15  tables 

638
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:18,960
 because  we  kept  getting 
 players  back  in,  but  one 

639
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,660
 of  the  easiest  things  to 
 do  in  one  of  the  ways 

640
00:32:20,660 --> 00:32:23,700
 that  it  worked  well  was 
 those  folders,  those 

641
00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:25,820
 character  folders  of  the 
 first  couple  of  seasons  of 

642
00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:29,020
 adventures  league  gave 
 players  a  reason  to  come 

643
00:32:29,020 --> 00:32:30,900
 back,  gave  random  people. 
 Oh, 

644
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,360
 I've  heard  of  this  game, 
 Dungeons  and  Dragons.  I've 

645
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,440
 never  played  it  or  I've 
 heard  of  this  game  in  this

646
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,880
 case,  Cairn,  but  I've  never
 played  it.  And 

647
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,940
 one  of  the  easiest  things 
 to  do  is  if  you're  willing

648
00:32:39,940 --> 00:32:42,560
 to  part  with  one  of  your 
 boxes,  one  of  your  books 

649
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,300
 from  your  box  set,  which 
 we're  going  to  have  copies 

650
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:47,400
 of  the  players  got 
 available  later  too,  but 

651
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,160
 you  can  give  one  of  those 
 copies  out  to  that  player 

652
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,900
 and  they  can  feel,  I  don't
 know,  this  is  something 

653
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:57,520
 cool  about  getting  something
 when  you  show  up  and 

654
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,340
 randomly  cause  I  mean,  I'm 
 a  nerd  and  I  get  really 

655
00:33:00,340 --> 00:33:03,000
 nervous  in  a  lot  of  social
 situations.  He 

656
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,360
 wouldn't  think  it,  but  I 
 do.  And 

657
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,440
 one  of  the  easiest  ways  to
 make  me  be  like,  okay,  I 

658
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,460
 understand  is  to  give  me, 
 like,  you  know,  something  I

659
00:33:13,460 --> 00:33:15,160
 can  fidget  with.  And 
 in  the  case  of  a  book, 

660
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,560
 like  it's  even  better 
 because  you've  got  all  the 

661
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,600
 shit  you  can  read  and 
 everything  else.  So 

662
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,840
 yeah,  thanks  for,  thanks 
 for  catching  that.  Like, 

663
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,940
 I  know  it's  not  everyone's 
 plan.  I 

664
00:33:23,948 --> 00:33:25,400
 know  everyone  would  probably
 be  like,  give  us  a 

665
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,140
 different  book,  but  we're 
 just  like,  we  want  it  to 

666
00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:33,040
 be  kind  of,  you  know,  for 
 not  really  to  force  the 

667
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,800
 number  of  players  or 
 anything  like  that,  but  we 

668
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,640
 just,  we  just  want  it  to 
 be  inviting.  I 

669
00:33:36,648 --> 00:33:40,380
 guess.  Yeah. 
 I  mean,  yeah,  three,  three 

670
00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:41,580
 is  a  great  number  of 
 people  to  have  at  the 

671
00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:43,700
 table  and  to  be  able  to 
 like  pass  out  one  of  those

672
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,140
 to  every  player  so  they 
 don't  have  to  like  pass  it

673
00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:47,880
 around  if  they  have  a 
 question  and  stuff  like 

674
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,620
 that  is  such  a  great  thing
 to  have.  I 

675
00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:51,800
 mean,  last  night  I  was 
 playing,  I  had  this  happen 

676
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,240
 last  night.  We 
 were  playing  outcast  Silver 

677
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,400
 Raiders  last  night  and  two 
 of  us  had  a  rules  question

678
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,340
 at  the  same  time  as  the, 
 you  know,  the  game  master 

679
00:33:59,340 --> 00:34:01,120
 was  running  the  game.  And 
 so  we're  like  passing  the 

680
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,480
 book  back  and  forth.  Yeah. 
 So  it's  not  have  to  pass 

681
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,160
 stuff  back  and  forth  and 
 have  your  own  work.  I'll 

682
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,179
 be  great.  I 
 do.  I 

683
00:34:09,179 --> 00:34:11,420
 love  that  about  the  thread.
 I 

684
00:34:11,420 --> 00:34:14,159
 know  you  don't  have  to  buy
 like,  like  if  you,  if  you,

685
00:34:14,179 --> 00:34:16,000
 if  you  wanted  to  buy  a 
 player's  handbook  for  every 

686
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,420
 one  of  your  players,  you're
 spending  like  250  bucks  for

687
00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:21,040
 five  E  and  I  mean,  versus 
 this  where  like  for  the 

688
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,480
 same  price  because  it's  all
 stretch  goals,  you're 

689
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,620
 getting  three  in  the  same 
 box.  So 

690
00:34:23,620 --> 00:34:26,100
 it's  a  great  deal  just  to 
 be  able  to  have  multiples 

691
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:28,600
 anyway,  because  you  could 
 also  be  a  psychopath  like 

692
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,120
 me  and  just  like  tuck  one 
 away  and  never  touch  it 

693
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,460
 and  then  have  one  to 
 actually  use  if  you  want. 

694
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,260
 So 
 you  don't  have  to  buy  two,

695
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,239
 you  know,  you'll  get  three.
 Well, 

696
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,120
 good  thing  games  does  that.
 Joseph 

697
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,659
 and  all  the  stuff  with 
 the,  with  the,  with  DCC, 

698
00:34:44,659 --> 00:34:48,520
 just  road  crew  and  DCC  day
 and  stuff  like  that.  Like 

699
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:53,820
 every  year  during  free  RPG 
 day,  you  get  a  free  DCC 

700
00:34:53,820 --> 00:34:57,360
 day,  you  know,  and  on  that
 end  of  it  now,  but  you 

701
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,100
 get  the  12  pages  or 
 whatever  it  is.  Of 

702
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:04,180
 the  character  generation  for
 zero  levels.  And 

703
00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:05,640
 then  in  the  back  of  that's
 a  funnel.  And 

704
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,800
 those  are  like  literally 
 free.  Like 

705
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,160
 they're  not  free  for  him 
 because  he  has  to  pay  for 

706
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,060
 them,  but  they're  free  to 
 four  people  running  at  the 

707
00:35:15,060 --> 00:35:17,980
 game  store.  And 
 like  that's  the  thing  that 

708
00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:21,020
 I  would  like  to  get  to  at
 some  point  for  some  of  our

709
00:35:21,020 --> 00:35:24,880
 line,  you  know,  once  we're 
 making  the  sorts  of  money 

710
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,660
 that  where  we  can  do  that 
 sort  of  thing.  Like 

711
00:35:27,660 --> 00:35:31,340
 the  first  taste  is  free 
 getting  people  in  the  door 

712
00:35:31,340 --> 00:35:35,420
 and  getting  them  wanting  to
 sit  down  and  play  this 

713
00:35:35,420 --> 00:35:37,680
 game  and,  and  engage  with 
 it.  You 

714
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,400
 know,  like  that's,  that's 
 so  yeah.  So 

715
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,000
 there's  that  character  sheet
 pad  and  these  are  some 

716
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,040
 thick  character  sheets.  We 
 went  up,  we  went  higher  on

717
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:52,180
 the  GSM.  Someone 
 asked,  you  know,  how  many 

718
00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:54,640
 pages  and  we  were 
 estimating  25  to  30  because

719
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,620
 it's  kind  of  thick  and  we 
 want  them  to  last.  And 

720
00:35:58,620 --> 00:36:00,260
 then  we've  got  another 
 perfect  bound  for  the 

721
00:36:00,260 --> 00:36:04,280
 stretchable  modules,  Amanda, 
 Zedek  and  Brad's  adventures 

722
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,240
 that  are  going  to  go  in 
 there.  I 

723
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:10,920
 get  this  one.  Correct 
 binding  wrong  direction.  I 

724
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,680
 think  it  was,  it  was  that 
 was  that  came  written  from 

725
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,600
 someone  else.  I 
 think  it's  more  of  a 

726
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,760
 sample  of  the,  it's  another
 sample  of  the  character 

727
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,120
 sheet  pad.  Module 
 trouble  in  Twin  Lakes 

728
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,900
 saddle  stitches.  Right. 
 This  one's  like  already 

729
00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:30,820
 like  done.  It's 
 like,  I'm  so  excited.  Ready

730
00:36:30,820 --> 00:36:33,420
 to  go.  And 
 then  the  thing  that  I 

731
00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:36,960
 don't  really  normally  use 
 and  I  say  I  don't  normally

732
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,100
 use,  but  I  will  use,  I'm 
 trying  to  get  used  to  it 

733
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:44,180
 is  the  five  panel  GM 
 screen.  So 

734
00:36:44,180 --> 00:36:50,080
 very  similar  in  style  to 
 the  one  that  people  got 

735
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,360
 with.  With 
 more  warg  and  I'm  sure 

736
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,560
 that  I  don't  have  the 
 Doman  would  set,  but  I 

737
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,220
 think  that  they  did  a 
 screen  like  that  in  Doman 

738
00:36:58,220 --> 00:37:03,440
 would.  So 
 it's  nice  and  thick  and 

739
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,420
 sturdy  and  it's  going  to 
 have  cool  Bruno  art  on  one

740
00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:09,540
 side  and  cool.  Everything 
 else  are  on  the  other 

741
00:37:09,540 --> 00:37:13,660
 side.  Or 
 reference  pages  and  tables 

742
00:37:13,660 --> 00:37:16,280
 and  stuff.  I, 
 for  the  longest  time,  I've 

743
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,760
 been  like,  I  don't  do  a 
 screen.  I 

744
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,660
 don't  do  a  screen.  I 
 just  have  thousands  of 

745
00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:21,240
 books,  but  I'm  getting 
 ready  to  run  that  highway 

746
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:23,460
 crawl.  And 
 I  pulled  out  my  hammer  dog

747
00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:25,980
 best  screen  in  the  universe
 and  started  putting  in 

748
00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:30,280
 weather  tables  and  CB  radio
 handles  and  stuff  like  that

749
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,420
 unique  when  you're  running 
 a  highway  game,  because 

750
00:37:32,420 --> 00:37:34,620
 players  are  going  to  be 
 like,  Oh,  I  turned  on  the 

751
00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:39,960
 radio  and  I  mean,  I  have 
 a  pretty  good  volume  of 

752
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,660
 like  70s  radio,  like  a  and
 gold  stuff  that  I  can  come

753
00:37:43,660 --> 00:37:45,120
 up  with  off  the  top  of  my
 hand.  But 

754
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,780
 if  you  just  have  a  list 
 of  it  on  the  page  in 

755
00:37:47,780 --> 00:37:49,800
 front  of  you,  because  it's 
 going  to  come  up  multiple 

756
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,320
 times,  you  know,  so  you 
 have  to  get  the  like  the 

757
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,700
 grand  theft  auto  radio,  you
 know,  or  exactly.  Totally 

758
00:37:57,700 --> 00:37:59,900
 psychotic  out  of  pocket 
 talk  show.  And 

759
00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:01,700
 you're  like,  what  the  fuck 
 is  this?  You 

760
00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:05,060
 have  to  be  if  you're 
 running  the  game,  right? 

761
00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:07,080
 Anyway, 
 so  there's  the  there's  the 

762
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,260
 Karen.  White 
 box.  It's 

763
00:38:11,260 --> 00:38:12,600
 a  big  boy.  It's 
 a  big  boy.  What's 

764
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,500
 it?  What's 
 the  how  wide?  How 

765
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,520
 wide  is  it  if  you're 
 sitting  on  the  shelf?  Oh, 

766
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,480
 do  you  mean  this  way? 
 Depth 

767
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:24,000
 wise?  We're 
 looking  at  like  two  and  a 

768
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,400
 half,  two  and  three 
 quarters,  almost  three 

769
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:32,400
 inches.  You 
 can't  just  use.  Yeah. 

770
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,200
 It's  almost  almost  three 
 inches  in  depth.  So. 

771
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,740
 Nice.  Awesome. 
 I'm  really,  really  excited 

772
00:38:41,740 --> 00:38:43,960
 for  that.  I 
 mean,  everyone  I  know  says 

773
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,860
 that's  perfect.  So 
 yeah,  I  think  boyfriend 

774
00:38:47,860 --> 00:38:52,500
 sized.  Yeah. 
 Nine  and  nine  and  a  little

775
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:56,660
 bit  shy  of  a  half  and 
 then.  Six 

776
00:38:56,660 --> 00:38:59,720
 and  almost  a  half.  So 
 yeah,  but  it's  got  it's 

777
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:02,860
 cool.  They 
 the  printers,  like  you 

778
00:39:02,860 --> 00:39:03,700
 said,  change  your  guys. 
 They 

779
00:39:03,707 --> 00:39:07,560
 did  a  nice  job.  There's 
 enough  room  of  the  runner 

780
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,780
 around  it  to  to  get  it 
 out  wanted  to  pull  up  one 

781
00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:14,460
 of  the  one  of  the  two, 
 you  know,  say  things,  but 

782
00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:18,300
 then  that  ribbon  just  adds 
 just  adds  that  level  of 

783
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:21,620
 utility.  Like 
 I  yeah,  it's  funny  how 

784
00:39:21,620 --> 00:39:25,100
 like  it  kind  of  going  back
 to  like  you  guys  slowly 

785
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:27,060
 dialing  in  on  stuff  as  you
 do  it.  Like 

786
00:39:27,067 --> 00:39:29,400
 that's  such  a  those.  So 
 those  are  such  small 

787
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,960
 quality  of  life  things  like
 I  have  box  sets  where 

788
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,000
 they're  like  suctioned  in. 
 I 

789
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,060
 had  to  turn  them  upside 
 down  to  get  the  fox.  There

790
00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:38,680
 is  no  extra  room  and 
 there's  not  like  that 

791
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,280
 little  space  or  a  little 
 ribbon  for  me  to  pull  up 

792
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,800
 on.  Kind 
 of  goes  along  with  like 

793
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,460
 having  the  multiple  player 
 books.  It's 

794
00:39:45,460 --> 00:39:49,040
 like,  yeah,  you  can,  you 
 know,  it's  all  very  utility

795
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,460
 based,  like  very,  very 
 utilitarian  quality  of  life.

796
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:53,760
 Oh, 
 Ryan's  going  to  do  a 

797
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,400
 thing.  Ryan, 
 what  are  you  doing?  I 

798
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,120
 was  just  looking  to  see  if
 he's  going  to  look  at  it. 

799
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,580
 It's 
 got  a  thermoplastic.  That's 

800
00:39:58,580 --> 00:40:00,880
 got  a  thermoplastic  and  I 
 would  love  to  do  a 

801
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,120
 thermoplastic  at  some  point 
 someday.  Like 

802
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,100
 that's  probably  going  to  be
 in  some  of  the  board 

803
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,720
 games.  And 
 that  realize  that  might  be 

804
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:09,260
 one  of  the  dumbest  nerdy 
 things.  I 

805
00:40:09,260 --> 00:40:10,940
 really  want  to  do  the 
 thermoplastic.  I 

806
00:40:10,940 --> 00:40:13,460
 really  want  to  manufacture 
 plastic.  I 

807
00:40:13,460 --> 00:40:15,580
 don't  personally  want  to 
 manufacture  plastic,  but  I 

808
00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:19,980
 want  to  see  how  that  goes 
 and  how  that  works  out 

809
00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:22,980
 with.  Yeah, 
 it's  going  to  have  to 

810
00:40:22,980 --> 00:40:24,240
 happen  for  the  board  game. 
 Right 

811
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,920
 now  I  can  see  the  kill 
 the  wizard  prototype  box 

812
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,460
 staring  at  me  over  there, 
 which  we've  talked  about 

813
00:40:29,460 --> 00:40:34,560
 before.  So 
 that's  kind  of  the  care 

814
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,780
 and  update.  We've 
 got  like  a  week  left  on 

815
00:40:36,780 --> 00:40:39,360
 the  campaign  and  then 
 there'll  be  a  couple  of 

816
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,920
 weeks  in  between  there 
 while  you're  waiting  for. 

817
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,580
 All 
 the  pay  in  and  payouts  and

818
00:40:45,580 --> 00:40:49,360
 charging  cards  and  then  the
 backer  kit  pledge  manager 

819
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,080
 will  go  up  and  so  that'll 
 run  through  May  and  June. 

820
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,940
 And 
 then  yeah,  we're  going  to 

821
00:40:54,940 --> 00:40:59,280
 do  weekly  updates.  Just 
 because,  you  know,  as  we're

822
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,760
 going  on  process,  like 
 team,  it's  like  team  team 

823
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,260
 logistics  over  here  is 
 we're  mostly  waiting  on  on 

824
00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:11,800
 stuff  for  from  team 
 creative  and  team  creative 

825
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,700
 is  chucking  along  and  doing
 just  fine.  Like 

826
00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:16,340
 when  we  set  out  to  do  the
 whole  thing,  we  set  out  a 

827
00:41:16,340 --> 00:41:20,280
 pretty  good  solid  plan,  you
 know,  and  Adam,  who's  doing

828
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,160
 the  layout  graphic  design, 
 literally  asked  right  before

829
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,600
 we  got  on  was  like, 
 what's,  you  know,  what's 

830
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,460
 our  hard  date?  You 
 know,  how  much,  you  know, 

831
00:41:27,620 --> 00:41:29,080
 what  breathing  room  do  we 
 have?  And 

832
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,620
 I  was  just  like,  this  is, 
 you  know,  it's  ever 

833
00:41:31,620 --> 00:41:34,020
 flexible  when  you  work  in 
 a  creative  situation,  you 

834
00:41:34,020 --> 00:41:37,000
 have  to  account  for  real 
 life,  real  life  happens. 

835
00:41:37,340 --> 00:41:39,620
 Some 
 of  us  have  kids,  I  don't 

836
00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:42,680
 personally,  but  some,  some 
 do.  Family, 

837
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:46,960
 like,  you  know,  depending 
 on  your  age  range,  you 

838
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,820
 might  have  people  like 
 getting  married  or,  you 

839
00:41:50,820 --> 00:41:54,460
 know,  being  born  or  dying 
 and  all  that  shit.  Like, 

840
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,960
 and  you  have  to  factor  in 
 all  that,  you  know, 

841
00:41:57,180 --> 00:42:00,960
 sicknesses,  illnesses,  just 
 everything.  But 

842
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,320
 I  think  we've  done  a 
 pretty  solid  job  with  our 

843
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,320
 timeline,  with  keeping 
 everything  where  we're  at 

844
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,000
 and  check.  And 
 I  know  that  team  creative 

845
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,620
 is,  you  know,  high  as  a 
 writing  machine  and  is  and 

846
00:42:12,620 --> 00:42:14,840
 squeezing  out  the  last  bit,
 because  it's  one  of  the 

847
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,580
 things  you  want  to  make 
 your  baby  as  perfect  as 

848
00:42:16,580 --> 00:42:19,060
 possible  before  you  send  it
 out  into  the  wild.  Of 

849
00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:22,600
 course.  So. 
 Yeah.  It's 

850
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,040
 maybe  my  brain  did  not 
 catch  up  with  all  the 

851
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,640
 books  in  the  thing  because 
 it's  it's  the  player's 

852
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,580
 guide,  the  Warren's  guide, 
 then  three  copies  of  the 

853
00:42:30,580 --> 00:42:34,860
 players  guide  is  the 
 printed  adventure  physical 

854
00:42:34,860 --> 00:42:37,440
 accounted  for  in  that  box 
 to,  or  is  that  going  to 

855
00:42:37,448 --> 00:42:41,760
 be  another  one  on?  Yeah. 
 So  six,  six,  true.  Trouble 

856
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,600
 in  Twin  Lakes,  which  is 
 the  module  that  you  high 

857
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,680
 wrote.  That 
 is  saddle  stitch  that.  So 

858
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,260
 that's  zine  style  because 
 it's  a  little  bit  smaller. 

859
00:42:51,260 --> 00:42:56,480
 And 
 then  the  stretch  goals  that

860
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,880
 we're  pretty  close  to  it. 
 Like 

861
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,960
 we  might  hit  the  the  one 
 seventy  five  stretch  for 

862
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,860
 the  for  the  printed  order. 
 So 

863
00:43:02,860 --> 00:43:05,160
 I'm  pretty  sure  we're  going
 to  we're  solid  for  that. 

864
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:07,960
 Four 
 dollars,  four  dollars  away, 

865
00:43:08,020 --> 00:43:11,100
 four  dollars  away.  Yeah. 
 That's  some  good  time.  I 

866
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:12,420
 haven't  pulled  up.  I 
 was  going  to  say  it.  Yeah.

867
00:43:12,540 --> 00:43:17,780
 Right.  So 
 with  that,  so  that  brings 

868
00:43:17,780 --> 00:43:20,300
 to  a  close,  like  the  last 
 of  our  physical  stretch 

869
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:22,400
 goals.  And 
 then  we  need  we  want  to 

870
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,300
 get  to  the  the  200  K 
 mark,  which,  you  know,  for 

871
00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:29,400
 those  who  have  used. 
 Kickstarter 

872
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,180
 before  you've  got  that  bump
 at  the  end  where  you  get, 

873
00:43:32,260 --> 00:43:34,180
 you  know,  folks  who've  been
 thinking  you're  going  to 

874
00:43:34,180 --> 00:43:35,900
 you'll  see  cancellations. 
 You'll 

875
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:39,560
 see  people  being  like,  oh, 
 shit,  I  can't  tie  up 

876
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,320
 thirty  dollars  or  fifty 
 five  dollars,  even  twenty 

877
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,840
 dollars.  And 
 then  this  is  what  it  is. 

878
00:43:43,940 --> 00:43:45,120
 Like 
 I  said,  our  goal  the  whole

879
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,760
 way  is  to  push  this  this 
 box  set.  And 

880
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,820
 we're  going  to  have  copies 
 of  the  box  set  available 

881
00:43:51,820 --> 00:43:54,180
 later.  Like 
 that's,  you  know,  with  with

882
00:43:54,180 --> 00:43:57,720
 that  big,  huge  number  makes
 it  so  much  easier  for  us 

883
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:01,200
 to  put  more  copies  of  the 
 books  in  the  box,  but  also

884
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:07,320
 put  more  copies  of  the  box
 into  existence,  you  know, 

885
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,480
 like.  We're 
 not  kidding  ourselves  in 

886
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,260
 saying  that,  oh,  this  is 
 the  only,  you  know,  we're 

887
00:44:13,260 --> 00:44:14,460
 going  to  be  able  to  print 
 enough.  There 

888
00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:17,440
 isn't  enough  money, 
 hopefully,  to  print  enough 

889
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,280
 to  last  us  for  years.  But 
 we  want  it  if  we  as  we're

890
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,480
 hitting  these  higher  numbers
 and  it's  and  it's  making 

891
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:30,120
 it  better  for  us  to  put, 
 you  know,  more  copies  into 

892
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,480
 the  box  and  then  print 
 more  boxes  like  I  just  did

893
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:38,700
 the  same  thing,  but 
 backwards,  I  think.  Mostly 

894
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:42,540
 just  reassuring  folks  that 
 we  will  have  physical 

895
00:44:42,540 --> 00:44:44,180
 copies  of  these  in  the 
 future.  That's 

896
00:44:44,180 --> 00:44:47,080
 not  me  saying  like  go  out 
 and  cancel  all  your  pledges

897
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,800
 now.  Like 
 that's  me  saying  that  the 

898
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,320
 goal  is  to  make  sure  that 
 we  have  these  things  and 

899
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,540
 that  they  are  available, 
 you  know,  some  stuff  is 

900
00:44:55,540 --> 00:44:58,600
 specific  to  the  box.  And 
 that's  the  best  way  you 

901
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,460
 can  get  it.  But, 
 you  know,  all  the  tiers 

902
00:45:02,460 --> 00:45:04,660
 will  be  getting  digital 
 versions  of  all  of  this 

903
00:45:04,660 --> 00:45:09,000
 stuff.  So. 
 Very  cool.  I'm 

904
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,260
 incredibly  excited  for  this 
 project,  like  to  get  this 

905
00:45:11,260 --> 00:45:13,720
 in  hand.  Like 
 Karen's  great.  This 

906
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:16,440
 box  that's  going  to  be. 
 Beautiful. 

907
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,180
 Yeah.  Right. 
 We're  actually  we're 

908
00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:22,240
 actually  starting  a  Karen 
 campaign  tonight.  Debbie's 

909
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:26,440
 Debbie's  request  because  she
 and  I  primarily  play  board 

910
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,440
 games  together  when  we  play
 and  our  friends,  Dave  and 

911
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,960
 Heather  are  coming  over  and
 we  played  a  lot  of  board 

912
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,220
 games.  But 
 we've  only  played  RPGs  a 

913
00:45:34,220 --> 00:45:37,020
 couple  of  times.  And 
 Debbie's  like,  I  mean,  if 

914
00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:39,480
 we're  going  to  go  into 
 events  and  conventions,  I 

915
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,780
 got  to  know  all  of  this 
 about  everything.  And 

916
00:45:41,788 --> 00:45:43,640
 I  was  like,  ooh,  do  you 
 want  to  run?  She 

917
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,200
 was  like,  no,  but  she's 
 going  to  watch  me  run 

918
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,280
 first.  And 
 then  maybe  I'll  get  her 

919
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,660
 into  running  her  first 
 campaign.  There 

920
00:45:51,660 --> 00:45:53,960
 you  go.  Yeah. 
 Oh,  and  you  hit  175. 

921
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,220
 You're 
 past  it.  So 

922
00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:57,560
 you're  going  to  get  printed
 in  the  box.  And 

923
00:45:57,567 --> 00:46:00,440
 while  we  were  talking,  I 
 think  Yo -Hai  is  listening 

924
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,560
 because  he  just  posted  up 
 the  screenshot  of  the 

925
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,680
 score,  the  point  of  the 
 whatever  the  total,  there's 

926
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,600
 the  words.  I 
 got  football  in  the  mind 

927
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,940
 in  our  work  chat.  So 
 there  you  go.  Nice. 

928
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:16,380
 Yeah.  Yeah. 
 One  thing  you  said  and. 

929
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:19,780
 The 
 other  thing  with  the  having

930
00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:22,780
 three  copies  of  the  book 
 in  the  thing  you've  been 

931
00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:25,560
 able  to  give  it  away  to, 
 it  still  really  feels  very 

932
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,480
 Karen  to  do  that,  too.  Not
 only  is  it  good  just  as 

933
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,580
 like  a  company  and 
 everything,  but  like  Karen, 

934
00:46:31,340 --> 00:46:34,820
 you  know,  you  had  mentioned
 previously  that  accessibility

935
00:46:34,820 --> 00:46:37,200
 into  the  game  brings  people
 back  to  the  game  and  they 

936
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,820
 were  like  hand  out  a  book 
 or  have  like  a  free  thing 

937
00:46:38,820 --> 00:46:40,780
 or  whatever.  Like 
 we  talked  about  this  last 

938
00:46:40,780 --> 00:46:42,880
 one  on  the  show.  Karen 
 is  Karen's  free  like 

939
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,220
 digitally.  You 
 can  it  always  has  been  and

940
00:46:45,220 --> 00:46:49,620
 it  always  will  be.  And 
 once  again,  encourage  people

941
00:46:49,620 --> 00:46:53,880
 to  to  do  stuff  like  that 
 because  I  mean,  the 

942
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,360
 Kickstarter  now  is  at  one 
 hundred  and  seventy  five 

943
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,680
 thousand  dollars  for  a  game
 that  you  can  get  digitally 

944
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,620
 for  free.  Like 
 people  will  still  play  your

945
00:47:00,620 --> 00:47:02,100
 game.  And 
 once  your  game,  if  your 

946
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:04,100
 game  is  accepted, 
 accessible,  and  the  more 

947
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:06,940
 accessible  it  is,  the  more 
 people  have  the  opportunity 

948
00:47:06,940 --> 00:47:09,000
 to  to  give  you  money  for 
 it.  So 

949
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,340
 it's  it's  it's  really  nice.
 You 

950
00:47:12,340 --> 00:47:14,320
 know,  I'm  glad  that  that 
 is  a  philosophy  they  always

951
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,820
 had.  And 
 again,  having  multiple 

952
00:47:16,820 --> 00:47:19,560
 copies  of  the  book  not 
 only  is  good  business,  but 

953
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,800
 like  continuing  that  ethos 
 is  such  a  good  idea  as 

954
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,060
 well.  So 
 it's  it's  it's  neat  to 

955
00:47:25,060 --> 00:47:27,260
 have  that  and  be  able  to 
 pass  us  out  if  you  want 

956
00:47:27,260 --> 00:47:29,340
 to.  I 
 mean,  that's  that's  part  of

957
00:47:29,340 --> 00:47:32,440
 the  reason  why  I  play  so 
 much  DC  and  run  so  much 

958
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,400
 DC  and  make  stuff  with 
 people  for  DCC  is  just 

959
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,060
 because  like  it's  you  go 
 to  you  go  to  a  convention 

960
00:47:40,060 --> 00:47:47,300
 and,  you  know,  you  you  are
 you  are  there  and  and  you 

961
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:50,360
 got  you  got  DCC.  If 
 you  go  to  a  show,  you  can

962
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,520
 get  into  a  DCC  game  like 
 I'll  I'll  personally  run 

963
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,340
 DCC  for  you  if  you  can 
 find  me  in  like  somehow 

964
00:47:56,340 --> 00:47:59,660
 all  of  the  games  for  the 
 day  are  all  tapped  up. 

965
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,380
 I'll 
 be  like,  cool,  but  we're 

966
00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:03,280
 playing  in  Forno  Road.  But 
 we're  playing  reverse 

967
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,420
 Inferno  Road.  And 
 I  got  to  think  about  what 

968
00:48:05,420 --> 00:48:08,760
 that  entails.  I 
 would  have  played  in  front 

969
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,240
 of  the  road  so  bad  with 
 like  a  huge  room  full  of 

970
00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:13,180
 people  at  like  different 
 tables  and  shit.  Like 

971
00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:15,440
 that'd  be  so  exciting.  I 
 think  we  talked  about  that 

972
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,020
 a  little  bit,  Jurt,  about 
 like  challenging  other 

973
00:48:18,020 --> 00:48:20,480
 podcasts  to  Inferno  Road. 
 And 

974
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,080
 like  when  they  get  kicked 
 off  their  buggies,  they 

975
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,860
 actually  get  kicked  onto 
 another  podcast.  How 

976
00:48:23,868 --> 00:48:25,800
 they  like  jump  to  a  Zoom 
 window  and  stuff.  That'd 

977
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,680
 be  so  much  fun  to  be  able
 to  multi  screen  that.  I 

978
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,320
 know  Doug  and  Tom  have  run
 multiple  user  online  games 

979
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,940
 that  like  CyclopsCon  and 
 Bride  of  CyclopsCon  or  Son 

980
00:48:35,940 --> 00:48:39,160
 of  CyclopsCon,  where  they 
 each  have  their  own  room 

981
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,000
 and  then  they  kick  people 
 over  to  the  other  channel 

982
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,220
 and  stuff.  Yeah, 
 pretty  good.  Pretty 

983
00:48:45,220 --> 00:48:48,380
 good.  You 
 can  be  me  at  most 

984
00:48:48,380 --> 00:48:51,800
 conventions  these  days  and 
 just  be  old  grouchy  man, 

985
00:48:52,060 --> 00:48:53,780
 because  I  wake  up  so 
 early.  And 

986
00:48:53,780 --> 00:48:58,020
 when  I  get  a  table,  I 
 always  get  the  the  last 

987
00:48:58,020 --> 00:49:01,840
 people  that  join  up.  Like 
 and  then  I  start  launching 

988
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,800
 them  just  as  projectiles  at
 other  tables  as  soon  as  I 

989
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,240
 can,  just  so  I  can  avoid 
 playing  RPGs.  Just 

990
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:11,180
 kidding.  I 
 love  playing  RPGs.  I 

991
00:49:11,180 --> 00:49:12,480
 just  like  being  the 
 spoiler.  It's 

992
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,360
 fun.  There 
 you  go.  There 

993
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,680
 you  go.  Yeah, 
 we  got  to  be  there  at 

994
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,260
 some  point.  We 
 have  to  actually  read 

995
00:49:18,260 --> 00:49:21,160
 through  and  talk  about  DCC 
 at  some  point  on  the  show.

996
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,260
 I 
 would  love  to  be  a  part 

997
00:49:24,260 --> 00:49:27,960
 of  that  if  you  ever  want 
 any  sort  of  insight.  So 

998
00:49:27,968 --> 00:49:31,660
 it's  like  if  you  do  a 
 whole  series,  like  if  you 

999
00:49:31,660 --> 00:49:34,580
 do  like  a  monthly  series 
 or  a  month  long  series  all

1000
00:49:34,580 --> 00:49:36,580
 about  DCC,  I'd  love  to 
 guest.  And 

1001
00:49:36,580 --> 00:49:39,640
 I  know  a  bunch  of  people 
 who  would  like  Stella  that 

1002
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,320
 would  be  on  see  if  we  can
 get  high -pacious  angst  on, 

1003
00:49:43,540 --> 00:49:48,300
 you  know,  all  the  crap, 
 you  know,  all  the  snake 

1004
00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:52,700
 wolf.  Gosh, 
 the  brain.  You 

1005
00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:56,260
 want  to,  Sean?  Sean, 
 yeah,  yeah,  yeah.  Talking 

1006
00:49:56,260 --> 00:49:59,900
 about  all  of  that  stuff 
 would  be  great.  Yeah, 

1007
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,160
 I  mean,  if  and  when  we 
 ever  do  DCC,  I  feel  like 

1008
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,440
 we're  going  to  do  more 
 than  one  thing  and  there's 

1009
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,940
 plenty  of  people  that  want 
 us  to  do  more  than  one 

1010
00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:08,040
 thing.  So 
 we'll  we'll  we'll  figure  it

1011
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,360
 out.  Well, 
 we'll  do  it  at  some  point 

1012
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,740
 or  we  won't.  And 
 we'll  just  keep  pissing 

1013
00:50:10,740 --> 00:50:14,400
 laws  off.  But 
 I  think  new  new  stuff 

1014
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,600
 coming  out.  I 
 was  hoping  that  my  box 

1015
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,820
 would  be  delivered.  It 
 is  not  yet.  But 

1016
00:50:18,820 --> 00:50:22,140
 I  think  I  think  the  third 
 part  of  the  plan  was  the 

1017
00:50:22,140 --> 00:50:23,660
 new  stuff  that's  just 
 dropping  and  the  stuff 

1018
00:50:23,660 --> 00:50:25,400
 that's  dropping  next,  right?
 I 

1019
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,840
 got  a  hundred  walked  away 
 so  we  can't  make  fun  of 

1020
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,740
 him  to  this  space.  Our 
 plan  is  still  sort  of 

1021
00:50:29,740 --> 00:50:32,180
 working.  We're 
 still  yeah,  twenty  twenty 

1022
00:50:32,180 --> 00:50:34,400
 five  twenty  five.  We're 
 still  make  fun  of  him 

1023
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,620
 behind  his  back.  That's 
 what  I  write.  He 

1024
00:50:36,620 --> 00:50:39,940
 can  hear  us,  I  hope.  No, 
 he  stopped  using  earbuds 

1025
00:50:39,940 --> 00:50:42,440
 like  an  idiot.  I 
 have  some  extras  here  for 

1026
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,140
 him,  though.  So 
 next  time  I  send  him  a 

1027
00:50:44,140 --> 00:50:46,860
 box,  he'll  be  able  to  hear
 us  when  we  walk  away.  But 

1028
00:50:46,860 --> 00:50:50,040
 good.  Yes, 
 new  releases.  So 

1029
00:50:50,048 --> 00:50:52,660
 at  the  Meetings  of  Madness 
 came  out  this  month  and 

1030
00:50:52,660 --> 00:50:54,320
 Resonant  came  out  this 
 month,  which  we  talked 

1031
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,960
 about  both  of  those  last 
 month,  I  think.  Seeds 

1032
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,760
 of  sand  is  now  out.  And 
 official  and  that  one  seems

1033
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,300
 to  be  moving  pretty  well. 
 That's 

1034
00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:10,540
 that's  a  great  success 
 story,  as  far  as  like  we 

1035
00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:13,720
 just  helped  out  with  like 
 the  logistics  of  getting  it

1036
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:17,280
 printed  and  landed.  All 
 of  the  work  that  Sam  had 

1037
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,940
 done  previously  on  that  was
 all  him.  But 

1038
00:51:21,940 --> 00:51:23,820
 that  one  seems  to  be 
 moving.  People 

1039
00:51:23,820 --> 00:51:27,120
 seem  to  be.  Digging 
 in  and  looking  into  a 

1040
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:32,920
 desert  crawl.  And 
 then  our  monthly  Forbidden 

1041
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:39,060
 Psalm,  which  was  this  month
 was  this  is  April.  So 

1042
00:51:39,060 --> 00:51:42,040
 it  was  more  ball  season 
 two.  And 

1043
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,800
 I  do  that  face  because  I'm
 like,  hmm,  more  pole  season

1044
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,240
 two  is  actually  printed  in 
 my  apartment  like  two 

1045
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,160
 months  ago.  That's 
 where  we're  pretty.  You 

1046
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,500
 were  talking  earlier  about 
 Will  and  like  the  man's  a 

1047
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:57,380
 machine.  And 
 then  he  posts  that  stuff 

1048
00:51:57,380 --> 00:51:58,580
 and  then  we  get  stuff. 
 And, 

1049
00:51:58,660 --> 00:52:01,740
 you  know,  like  right  now 
 we've  got  the  the  May  ones

1050
00:52:01,740 --> 00:52:04,140
 are  here.  And 
 then  next  week,  the  June 

1051
00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:05,320
 ones  are  going  to  print. 
 We've 

1052
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,140
 got  it  kind  of  timed  out 
 to  where  the  same  day 

1053
00:52:08,140 --> 00:52:12,240
 that.  The 
 same  day  that  it  goes  for 

1054
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:14,100
 sale  in  our  store,  it's 
 also  available  in  your 

1055
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:15,480
 friendly  local  game  store. 
 Like 

1056
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,580
 we're  working  as  closely 
 and  I'm  really  I'm  really 

1057
00:52:18,580 --> 00:52:23,020
 trying  to  hit  that  with 
 with  ACD  as  a  distribution 

1058
00:52:23,020 --> 00:52:25,980
 partner.  Does 
 it  cut  into  us  a  little 

1059
00:52:25,980 --> 00:52:30,500
 bit?  Yes, 
 but  also  I'm  more  I'm 

1060
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:34,580
 happier  if  someone  was 
 like,  no,  I  literally  got 

1061
00:52:34,580 --> 00:52:39,020
 this  at  Game  Store  X,  you 
 know,  like  two  days  before 

1062
00:52:39,020 --> 00:52:41,660
 you  guys  announced  it  on 
 your  on  your  own  web 

1063
00:52:41,660 --> 00:52:42,700
 store.  And 
 I'm  like,  that's  perfect. 

1064
00:52:43,060 --> 00:52:44,580
 That's 
 what  I  want.  That's 

1065
00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:49,880
 like  because.  We 
 can  talk  and  sell  stuff  to

1066
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,320
 fan  based  is  that,  you 
 know,  you've  achieved  via 

1067
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,580
 social  media,  so  social 
 marketing,  Twitter,  Facebook,

1068
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,720
 etc.  Right. 
 You  can  do  that.  But 

1069
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:04,380
 at  some  point,  unless 
 you're  doing  that,  you're 

1070
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:06,400
 really  pushing  that  growth, 
 you  know,  and  getting  out 

1071
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,740
 to  people.  I 
 was  talking  to  somebody  the

1072
00:53:08,740 --> 00:53:10,460
 day  like  the  best  part,  I 
 was  talking  to  Steve 

1073
00:53:10,460 --> 00:53:12,940
 yesterday,  the  best  part 
 about  going  to  a  convention

1074
00:53:12,940 --> 00:53:16,020
 is  most  of  those  people  at
 a  convention  have  no  idea 

1075
00:53:16,020 --> 00:53:19,260
 what  you're  talking  about 
 when  you  say  DCC,  even  at 

1076
00:53:19,260 --> 00:53:22,940
 even  at  Gary  Conn.  There's 
 still  people  and  Gary  Conn 

1077
00:53:22,940 --> 00:53:25,400
 is  like  the  most  requested 
 game  there,  like  the  most 

1078
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,560
 played  game  there.  Like 
 it's  it's  huge,  right?  But 

1079
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,060
 even  there,  I  mean,  after 
 5E,  because  there's  a  big 

1080
00:53:32,060 --> 00:53:35,020
 5E  room  there,  but 
 whatever.  Really? 

1081
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:41,320
 Yeah,  yeah,  yeah.  Right. 
 But  like  there  are  even 

1082
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,700
 people  that  get  go  to  like
 because  you  just  it's  a 

1083
00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:47,340
 small  space  and  you're  and 
 you  end  up  talking  to  a 

1084
00:53:47,340 --> 00:53:49,140
 bunch  of  brain  and  people 
 and  they're  like,  yeah,  you

1085
00:53:49,140 --> 00:53:50,620
 know,  I've  never  played 
 DCC.  And 

1086
00:53:50,627 --> 00:53:53,780
 you're  just  like  this  game 
 has  been  out  for  like  12 

1087
00:53:53,780 --> 00:53:56,960
 years  now  and  you've  never 
 played  it  like  and  it's 

1088
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,060
 it's  a  D &D  that  it's  a 
 it's  a  variation  of  D &D 

1089
00:54:00,060 --> 00:54:03,960
 that  you're  going  to  love 
 like.  So 

1090
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,920
 anyway,  that's  all  my  way 
 of  saying  like  pushing  out 

1091
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,700
 and  and  doing  the  outreach 
 in  the  stores  is  is  the 

1092
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:14,980
 best  part  is  the  key.  So 
 what's  that?  This 

1093
00:54:14,988 --> 00:54:17,480
 is  mine.  Some 
 of  the  new  DCC.  I've 

1094
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,460
 never  I've  never  even 
 cracked  open  the  book  to 

1095
00:54:19,460 --> 00:54:23,360
 read  it,  but  I  have  an 
 entire  shelf  of  DCC  plus 

1096
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:29,320
 all  of  this.  With 
 the  last  the  last  thing 

1097
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,020
 that  delivered,  you  know 
 how  they  let  you  do  an 

1098
00:54:31,020 --> 00:54:33,060
 add  on  for  like  every 
 freaking  thing  ever.  I 

1099
00:54:33,060 --> 00:54:36,420
 went  a  little  nuts  and 
 added  on  a  lot  of  stuff. 

1100
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,860
 So 
 I  got  I  got  all  sorts  of 

1101
00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:43,480
 I  got  that.  But 
 I  got  the  the  shelf  holder

1102
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,420
 thing  for  it.  So 
 it's  actually  contained.  Got

1103
00:54:46,420 --> 00:54:47,920
 to  get  more  of  these 
 suckers.  But 

1104
00:54:47,928 --> 00:54:51,160
 yeah.  Yeah. 
 Yeah.  You 

1105
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,820
 want  to  see  my  you  and 
 see  my  DCC?  Sure. 

1106
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,240
 Yes.  This 
 is  the  this  is  the  book 

1107
00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:03,260
 that  might  make  Ryan  cry. 
 Oh, 

1108
00:55:03,260 --> 00:55:06,940
 that's  cool  for  you.  Yeah. 
 I  mean,  it's  not  even 

1109
00:55:06,940 --> 00:55:09,180
 really  a  book  anymore  at 
 that  point.  It 

1110
00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:12,460
 is.  It's 
 also  tab.  It's 

1111
00:55:12,460 --> 00:55:15,500
 also  had  there's  also 
 inserts.  It 

1112
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:18,460
 looks  like  a  new  of  my 
 copy  of  Dune  that  doesn't 

1113
00:55:18,460 --> 00:55:21,240
 have  a  cover  or  yeah. 
 Exactly. 

1114
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,580
 Hey,  I  want  to  teach  their
 own,  you  know,  it's  got 

1115
00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:29,020
 stickers  all  over  it.  Look 
 at  that.  It's 

1116
00:55:29,020 --> 00:55:32,460
 stickers  on  mine.  You 
 guys,  you  do  you,  you 

1117
00:55:32,460 --> 00:55:34,880
 know,  I've  got  a  point  now
 where  I  don't  even  take 

1118
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,000
 things  out  of  the  plastic 
 anymore  until  I  play  with 

1119
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,980
 them  so  they  don't  get 
 injured.  This 

1120
00:55:39,980 --> 00:55:42,940
 mess  in  with  you  to  each 
 their  own.  People 

1121
00:55:42,940 --> 00:55:45,940
 do  what  they  want  to  do, 
 like  a  part  of  the  part 

1122
00:55:45,940 --> 00:55:49,360
 of  the  business  of  making 
 things,  you  know,  part  of 

1123
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:55,020
 the  thing,  the  business  of 
 making  things  is.  And 

1124
00:55:55,020 --> 00:55:58,400
 so,  you  know,  and  being  a 
 publisher  is  there  folks 

1125
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,300
 want  to  buy  stuff  and 
 like,  hey,  I'm  the  person 

1126
00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:01,840
 who  likes  to  buy  stuff. 
 I'm 

1127
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,200
 currently  on  a  six  month 
 like  not  buying  anything 

1128
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,500
 because  my  pile  of  books 
 that  I  needed  to  read  was 

1129
00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:11,940
 got  huge  and  massive.  I 
 know  I  said  earlier  that 

1130
00:56:11,940 --> 00:56:14,360
 there's  a  book  sale  at  the
 news  books  or  at  the 

1131
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,740
 library.  I'm 
 going  to  do  I'm  setting  a 

1132
00:56:16,740 --> 00:56:20,280
 budget  of  $30  cash  and 
 that's  it.  That's 

1133
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:24,100
 all  I  can  spend  this 
 Saturday  at  the  local 

1134
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:27,220
 library.  Like 
 I'm  not  allowed  to  spend 

1135
00:56:27,220 --> 00:56:29,500
 more  than  that  and  I'm 
 taking  when  I  leave  the 

1136
00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:32,640
 house,  I'm  taking  my  wallet
 and  $30  cash.  That's 

1137
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,080
 it.  And 
 because  I'll  get  all  kinds 

1138
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,000
 of  really  good  stuff  for 
 that,  you  know.  So, 

1139
00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:43,259
 yeah,  see,  I  have  to. 
 Remove 

1140
00:56:43,259 --> 00:56:46,560
 things.  So 
 I  have  ADHD,  anyone  that's 

1141
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,900
 listened,  probably  couldn't 
 tell  that  all  three  of  us 

1142
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:51,700
 have  pretty  bad  ADHD,  but 
 they're  taking  a  regular 

1143
00:56:51,700 --> 00:56:53,880
 basis.  But 
 I  have  really  bad  object 

1144
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,880
 permanence.  So 
 if  I  don't  have  access  to 

1145
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,280
 something  off,  I'll  just 
 forget  it  exists.  So 

1146
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,680
 how  did  I  stop  using 
 Instagram?  I 

1147
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,520
 just  took  it  off  my  own 
 screen  and  put  it  back 

1148
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,560
 with  the  regular  apps.  And 
 suddenly  I  wasn't  on  it 

1149
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,040
 anymore.  But 
 I  had  to  delete  eBay 

1150
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,800
 because  I  couldn't  stop 
 buying  fucking  books.  So 

1151
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,720
 not  having  the  app  and 
 forcing  myself  to  actually 

1152
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:14,660
 go  through  the  web  browser 
 made  it  a  lot  harder, 

1153
00:57:14,660 --> 00:57:18,560
 which  means  I  don't  do  it 
 as  much.  So 

1154
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,240
 I  wish  I  could  just  hold 
 myself  to  $30.  That 

1155
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:26,960
 would  be  would  be 
 wonderful.  But 

1156
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,580
 it's  the  public  library. 
 And 

1157
00:57:28,580 --> 00:57:31,720
 so  it's  used  book  sale.  So
 they're  probably  going  to 

1158
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,580
 say  cash  only.  Yeah, 
 I  hope  so.  I 

1159
00:57:34,580 --> 00:57:39,180
 hope  so.  Yeah. 
 The  part  of  it.  But 

1160
00:57:39,180 --> 00:57:42,900
 yeah,  I  mean,  it's  that  I 
 was,  like  I  said,  I  was 

1161
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:45,100
 totally  just  messing  with 
 you  with  my  copy  of  DCC. 

1162
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:46,700
 It's 
 the  it's  the  book  that 

1163
00:57:46,700 --> 00:57:48,600
 makes  people  cry  because 
 they're  like,  boom.  And 

1164
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,840
 I  was  like,  but  that  book 
 is  well  loved  that  I've 

1165
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,000
 had  that  book  since  it's 
 the  second  printing.  So 

1166
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,320
 I've  had  it  since  2014, 
 the  second  printing,  13  or 

1167
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,640
 14.  It 
 was,  you  know,  it's  it's 

1168
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,740
 seen  a  lot  of  it's  seen  a
 lot  of  zero  level 

1169
00:58:04,740 --> 00:58:06,580
 characters,  I'll  tell  you 
 that.  And 

1170
00:58:06,580 --> 00:58:09,180
 some  upper  level  characters.
 So 

1171
00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:12,580
 more  characters,  more  zeros.
 We'll 

1172
00:58:12,580 --> 00:58:14,980
 have  to  do  it.  I 
 have  two  I  have  two  copies

1173
00:58:14,980 --> 00:58:20,260
 of  the  DCC  rulebook.  One 
 with  one  is  the  like  a 

1174
00:58:20,260 --> 00:58:22,980
 gray  or  brown  one  with 
 like  gold  foiling  or  silver

1175
00:58:22,980 --> 00:58:26,040
 foiling.  And 
 then  I  got  the  the  dying 

1176
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,420
 earth  one.  That's 
 that's  what  I  want  to  dig 

1177
00:58:28,420 --> 00:58:29,420
 into  a  little  bit,  too. 
 I'm 

1178
00:58:29,420 --> 00:58:30,860
 very  excited  for  that. 
 Yeah. 

1179
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,420
 I'm  still  really  hoping 
 that  my  mail  gets  delivered

1180
00:58:33,420 --> 00:58:34,540
 so  I  can  show  off  those 
 things.  But 

1181
00:58:34,540 --> 00:58:38,260
 did  you  want  to  talk  about
 what's  coming  up  next  month

1182
00:58:38,260 --> 00:58:40,320
 or  do  you  want  to  do  that
 next  month?  Sure. 

1183
00:58:40,540 --> 00:58:44,860
 No,  next  month  is  May.  So 
 we  have  East  Brindos  Spirit

1184
00:58:44,860 --> 00:58:48,980
 Night,  which  is  the  next 
 in  the  for  bin  Psalm 

1185
00:58:48,980 --> 00:58:53,660
 monthlies.  It's, 
 you  know,  another  thin 

1186
00:58:53,660 --> 00:58:57,120
 volume,  16  pager,  but  it's 
 got  a  bunch  of  monsters 

1187
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:01,400
 from  and  legends  from  Welsh
 folklore  will  the  creator 

1188
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,760
 for  bin  Psalm  for  those 
 who  don't  know  is  Welsh. 

1189
00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:08,440
 And 
 so  there's  that.  And 

1190
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:14,140
 then  also  will  be  Daisy 
 Chainsaw  by  Charlotte 

1191
00:59:14,140 --> 00:59:20,260
 Skowsky.  That. 
 It's  like  I  was  like,  why 

1192
00:59:20,260 --> 00:59:22,600
 is  Yo -Hi  message  to  me?  I
 was  like,  oh,  it's  because 

1193
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,460
 my  emails  up  over  here  and
 it  just  it  was  for  his 

1194
00:59:26,460 --> 00:59:29,140
 newsletter.  And 
 I  was  like,  what?  Daisy 

1195
00:59:29,140 --> 00:59:33,720
 Chainsaw  is  a  great  game 
 of  magical  girls.  And 

1196
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,340
 I  will  talk  more  about 
 that  next  month.  We're 

1197
00:59:37,340 --> 00:59:38,880
 actually  going  to  probably 
 get  to  play  it  this 

1198
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:43,660
 weekend,  maybe.  But 
 that,  too,  is  in  print  is 

1199
00:59:43,660 --> 00:59:45,240
 the  house.  Oh, 
 I  have  a  copy  of  that. 

1200
00:59:45,940 --> 00:59:53,860
 Right. 
 If  I.  Speaking 

1201
00:59:53,860 --> 00:59:57,420
 of  speaking  of  really  cool,
 neat  stuff,  we  got  a 

1202
00:59:57,420 --> 01:00:00,500
 spiral  bound  like  a.  Love 
 the.  Like 

1203
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:03,760
 a  like  a  Lisa  Frank 
 notebook.  I 

1204
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:07,020
 was  I  was  talking  to  Shar 
 this  morning  and  we  were 

1205
01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:11,280
 talking  about  I  was  just 
 like  you  did.  You 

1206
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,980
 made  a  Lisa  Frank  notebook 
 like  and  it's  yeah,  it's 

1207
01:00:14,980 --> 01:00:19,560
 so  good.  But 
 yeah,  so  magical  girls  for 

1208
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,280
 those  familiar  with  it  or 
 not  familiar  with  it. 

1209
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,740
 Think, 
 you  know,  like  the  biggest 

1210
01:00:24,740 --> 01:00:27,980
 touchstone  for  me  in  my 
 personal  book  is  Salomon.  I

1211
01:00:27,980 --> 01:00:30,720
 love  some  Salomon.  But 
 there's  a  bunch  of 

1212
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:37,760
 character  generation  and  you
 pick  your  avatar  and  that's

1213
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,840
 kind  of  like  a  big  combat 
 simulator.  In 

1214
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,360
 the  sense  that  most  of 
 those  episodes  of  Sailor 

1215
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,920
 Moon,  specifically,  and  a 
 lot  of  magical  girl  shows 

1216
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,080
 are  combat  simulators  where 
 you'd  have  all  the  role 

1217
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,740
 playing  part  and,  you  know,
 everyone's  at  school  or 

1218
01:00:53,740 --> 01:00:56,120
 everyone's  doing  this.  And 
 then  there's  always  that 

1219
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,140
 big,  bad  monster  that  you 
 fight  every  week.  And 

1220
01:00:58,140 --> 01:01:01,020
 so  there's  rules  for 
 episodes  and  and  creations 

1221
01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:02,780
 and  stuff.  So 
 we're  excited  to  see  how 

1222
01:01:02,780 --> 01:01:08,120
 it  goes.  Shars 
 has  released  the  digital 

1223
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,240
 version  and  a  bunch  of 
 people,  but  Pichel,  a  bunch

1224
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,060
 of  people  are  on  board  and
 are  really  super  stoked  and

1225
01:01:14,060 --> 01:01:16,780
 excited.  I'm 
 super  excited  and  stoked. 

1226
01:01:16,980 --> 01:01:19,600
 And 
 we  did  Soft  Touch  lamb  on 

1227
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,000
 the  cover.  I 
 know  a  lot  of  people  don't

1228
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,960
 like  soft  touch,  but  we 
 did  soft  touch  to  make  it 

1229
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,760
 even  more  resilient.  And 
 we're  talking  about  if  we 

1230
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,580
 get  to  go  back  for  a 
 second  print,  possibly 

1231
01:01:29,580 --> 01:01:32,520
 making  the  cover  even  a 
 little  bit  sturdier,  a 

1232
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,080
 little  bit  thicker.  I 
 know,  do  you  two  remember 

1233
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:42,000
 volume  or  and  and  and  and 
 and  and  and  and  treasure? 

1234
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,020
 Oh, 
 yes.  Yeah. 

1235
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:46,680
 Right.  It's 
 a  good  one.  Yeah. 

1236
01:01:47,140 --> 01:01:48,600
 Do  I  need  to  get  a 
 monster?  Then 

1237
01:01:48,607 --> 01:01:51,900
 if  you  if  you  have  it, 
 it's  fine.  When 

1238
01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:55,800
 we  when  we  printed  those, 
 we  had  that  clear  acetate 

1239
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,960
 cover  put  over  the  top. 
 And 

1240
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,420
 I  don't  know  if  Mixam 
 offers  that  as  an  option. 

1241
01:02:01,740 --> 01:02:02,060
 I 
 do.  That's 

1242
01:02:02,060 --> 01:02:03,560
 where  we  printed  these  at. 
 But 

1243
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,060
 I  didn't  do  it  because  I 
 got  the  soft  touch  lamb 

1244
01:02:06,060 --> 01:02:10,800
 and  it  came  out  really 
 good.  You 

1245
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:11,860
 can  find  it.  I 
 don't  have  that  one 

1246
01:02:11,860 --> 01:02:15,140
 physically,  actually.  So 
 that's  what  she  would  know 

1247
01:02:15,140 --> 01:02:17,460
 that  I  actually  had  two 
 copies  of  it.  And 

1248
01:02:17,460 --> 01:02:19,640
 I  just  sent  the  other  one 
 out  randomly.  The 

1249
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:20,900
 other  day,  I  would  have 
 sent  it  to  you.  I 

1250
01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:22,800
 sent  it  out  to  somebody 
 else.  I 

1251
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,440
 have  a  big  binder  that  I 
 printed  at  home.  That's 

1252
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:31,000
 that's  all  of  all  of  the 
 wolves  on  the  coast  stuff. 

1253
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:32,520
 Oh, 
 nice.  I 

1254
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,420
 have  it  in  a  spiral 
 binder.  Nice. 

1255
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,340
 Hell  yeah.  Yeah. 
 I  have  a  very  DIY  was  on 

1256
01:02:39,340 --> 01:02:42,940
 the  coast  set  up  here.  I 
 mean,  I'm  using  a  bunch  of

1257
01:02:42,940 --> 01:02:44,960
 spiral  binders  for  my  prep.
 I've 

1258
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,460
 got  like  four  different 
 binders  for  prep  for  that 

1259
01:02:48,460 --> 01:02:52,180
 highway  for  the  uncanny 
 highway  crawl  because  you 

1260
01:02:52,180 --> 01:02:56,040
 have  to  have  like  your 
 small  town  and  you  have  to

1261
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,160
 have  your  small  town 
 newspaper  and  your  TV 

1262
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,520
 station  and  gas  diner  and 
 you  drive  in  and  your 

1263
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,240
 weather  and  your  ghostly 
 hitchhikers  and  all  this 

1264
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,200
 stuff,  you  know,  so  just  a
 bunch  of  bunch  of  three 

1265
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:12,300
 ring  binders.  Anyway, 
 Daisy  Chainsaw  comes  out 

1266
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:16,820
 next  month,  spiral  bound. 
 And 

1267
01:03:16,820 --> 01:03:21,920
 no,  I'm  just  I'm  the 
 char's  art  is  fricking 

1268
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,980
 amazing.  Let 
 me  show  you  where's  gone. 

1269
01:03:25,340 --> 01:03:30,540
 Where's 
 gone?  Were 

1270
01:03:30,540 --> 01:03:34,980
 you  at  gun?  Skates 
 actually  skates  is  pretty 

1271
01:03:34,980 --> 01:03:44,660
 good  one  too.  Somewhere. 
 I  built  new  bookshelves  and

1272
01:03:44,660 --> 01:03:45,660
 still  haven't  filled  them 
 in.  So 

1273
01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:46,940
 everything's  on  the  floor. 
 I 

1274
01:03:46,940 --> 01:03:48,940
 can  tell  you  where  it  used
 to  be.  I 

1275
01:03:48,940 --> 01:03:51,839
 can't  tell  you  where  it 
 is,  though.  Yeah, 

1276
01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:54,100
 also  it's  alphabetical.  I 
 couldn't  find  it.  There 

1277
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:57,600
 we  go.  Good. 
 Nice.  They 

1278
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,040
 just  look  bad  ass.  Yeah, 
 they  do.  I 

1279
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:01,840
 love  the  cover.  I 
 do  the  cover  on  streams. 

1280
01:04:02,060 --> 01:04:02,860
 People 
 can  see  it.  It's 

1281
01:04:02,860 --> 01:04:04,900
 just  really  fantastic.  It's 
 funny  because  I  think  for 

1282
01:04:04,900 --> 01:04:08,900
 the  last  like  three  months,
 I've  been  like,  I'm  going 

1283
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:10,520
 to  buy  the  new  releases 
 this  time.  Is 

1284
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,440
 Daisy  Chainsaw  yet?  And 
 it's  like  it's  not  coming 

1285
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:13,720
 to  April.  Then 
 like  last  month,  I  was 

1286
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:14,780
 like,  is  it?  Oh, 
 yeah,  it's  not  coming  to 

1287
01:04:14,780 --> 01:04:17,080
 April.  So 
 very  excited  for  that.  May.

1288
01:04:17,380 --> 01:04:21,120
 It's  coming  to  May.  May. 
 So  this  thing  also  from 

1289
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,080
 from  Charlotte  was  Celestial
 bodies.  They 

1290
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:30,180
 were  they  carried  some  of 
 the  ash  cans  over  at.  Oh, 

1291
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,060
 my  gosh.  Why 
 do  I  really  get  a  little 

1292
01:04:32,067 --> 01:04:36,620
 blanking  on  this?  Um, 
 I  don't  know  if  they  still

1293
01:04:36,620 --> 01:04:38,680
 have  some.  Let 
 me  go  back  and  I'm  finding

1294
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,540
 I  don't  know  why  I'm 
 completely  blanking  on  this 

1295
01:04:40,540 --> 01:04:43,460
 right  now.  Spearwidge, 
 Navy  Cubs.  Nope. 

1296
01:04:43,700 --> 01:04:47,220
 Nope.  Nope. 
 Paragon  Coast.  Oh, 

1297
01:04:47,340 --> 01:04:49,680
 Paragon.  Yeah. 
 Yeah.  So 

1298
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,880
 very  excited  for  that.  Also
 coming  from  Charlotte.  The 

1299
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,960
 vibes  in  that  are  really 
 good  too.  And 

1300
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,020
 that  really  made  me  want  a
 Daisy  Chainsaw  even  more. 

1301
01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:00,820
 But 
 yeah,  they're  excited  for 

1302
01:05:00,820 --> 01:05:03,580
 their  work.  So, 
 uh,  Yeah.  It's 

1303
01:05:03,580 --> 01:05:06,180
 cool.  I'm 
 not  so  I  so  question  and 

1304
01:05:06,180 --> 01:05:08,040
 that's  something  I've  always
 had.  What 

1305
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,920
 was  the  point  of  the  the 
 plastic  bit  over  the  and 

1306
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,160
 and  and  and  and  and  and 
 and  and  and  and  and.  Oh, 

1307
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,540
 man,  it  was  an  option  with
 a  printer.  We 

1308
01:05:16,540 --> 01:05:20,420
 printed  those  at  Doc's  Zoo 
 and  and  there  was  place  in

1309
01:05:20,420 --> 01:05:25,360
 the  UK  and  they  just 
 offered  that  because.  It 

1310
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,140
 was  it's  not  impossible  to 
 find  places  that  will  do 

1311
01:05:29,140 --> 01:05:35,080
 that  a  six  size.  But 
 they  offered  that  as  as  an

1312
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:36,600
 option.  And 
 if  I  remember  correctly, 

1313
01:05:36,620 --> 01:05:40,460
 they  didn't  have  the  option
 for  Matt  Lamination  on  the 

1314
01:05:40,460 --> 01:05:43,980
 cover  itself.  So 
 I  just  went  with  the  clear

1315
01:05:43,980 --> 01:05:46,660
 acetate  cover,  which  is 
 kind  of  sharp.  It 

1316
01:05:46,660 --> 01:05:50,600
 actually  it  gets  stabby 
 sometimes.  Yeah, 

1317
01:05:50,700 --> 01:05:51,560
 funny.  I 
 like  it.  I 

1318
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,160
 feel  like  it's  protecting 
 the  book,  which  of  course 

1319
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,260
 I  enjoy,  which  is  nice. 
 But 

1320
01:05:55,260 --> 01:05:57,080
 I've  always  I've  always 
 been  curious  because  I've 

1321
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,820
 never  I've  never  received 
 another  T -Tab,  which  you've

1322
01:05:59,820 --> 01:06:01,380
 looked  at  had  that.  So 
 I  was  always  curious  what. 

1323
01:06:02,180 --> 01:06:03,940
 Yeah. 
 And  now  I  know  now  I 

1324
01:06:03,940 --> 01:06:05,240
 should  have  just  asked 
 because  I  should  have  just 

1325
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,860
 known  it  was  you.  Making 
 weird  stuff.  Just 

1326
01:06:07,860 --> 01:06:09,360
 kind  of  seeing  what 
 happens.  Like 

1327
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,480
 it's  that's  the  that's  the 
 that's  the  fun  part  of  a 

1328
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,360
 lot  of  what  we  do  is,  you
 know,  just  a  lot  of  what 

1329
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,620
 I've  done  is  just  like, 
 can  we  do  this?  Let's 

1330
01:06:18,620 --> 01:06:22,160
 see  what  happens,  you  know,
 like  when  I  came  to  us 

1331
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,580
 about  the  box  set,  I  was 
 just  like,  let's  do  it. 

1332
01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:27,180
 Let's 
 let's  let's  make,  you  know,

1333
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,780
 I've  worked.  With 
 other  companies  and  in 

1334
01:06:29,780 --> 01:06:32,060
 other  situations,  making 
 stuff  like  that.  But 

1335
01:06:32,060 --> 01:06:38,620
 I've  never  done  one  myself,
 you  know,  so.  Yeah. 

1336
01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:41,120
 I'm  so  upset  that  I  can't 
 find  stuff  that  makes  me 

1337
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:42,860
 mad  when  I  don't  know 
 where  every  like  piece  of 

1338
01:06:42,860 --> 01:06:45,360
 the  10 ,000  pieces  they 
 have  is.  But 

1339
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,340
 we'll  get  it.  Um, 
 gosh,  we  did  25,  25,  25. 

1340
01:06:49,740 --> 01:06:51,080
 What 
 else  do  we  have?  What 

1341
01:06:51,087 --> 01:06:53,840
 is  what  is  good?  I 
 think  we  should.  I 

1342
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,520
 think  we  should  be  free 
 and  we  should  go  and  enjoy

1343
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,420
 a  Friday  mostly  because  I 
 need  to  go  prep  for  the 

1344
01:06:59,420 --> 01:07:01,740
 beginning  of  the  can 
 campaign.  How 

1345
01:07:01,740 --> 01:07:03,560
 I  want  to  go  work  outside.
 So 

1346
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:05,940
 I'm  going  to  go  to  bed 
 because  I  got  to  work 

1347
01:07:05,940 --> 01:07:08,340
 tonight.  So 
 that  was,  uh,  look,  that 

1348
01:07:08,340 --> 01:07:10,360
 look  at  our,  we're  getting 
 smoother  and  smoother  on 

1349
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,440
 this.  We 
 were  amazing.  We're 

1350
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,260
 killing  it.  Um, 
 and  then  our  next  not  cat 

1351
01:07:16,260 --> 01:07:21,460
 chats  for,  um,  did  have  we
 had  we  planned  that  yet? 

1352
01:07:21,580 --> 01:07:23,540
 So 
 we  can  let  them  know.  Yes,

1353
01:07:23,820 --> 01:07:26,960
 Friday,  Friday,  May  17th. 
 Boom. 

1354
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:28,240
 And  then  we're  going  to 
 have  to  sit  down  and  plan 

1355
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,180
 some  more  after  that. 
 That's 

1356
01:07:29,180 --> 01:07:32,260
 us.  Yeah. 
 So,  uh,  we  will  be  talking

1357
01:07:32,260 --> 01:07:35,140
 on  the  17th.  We'll 
 dig  more  into  DC  chainsaw, 

1358
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,200
 um,  some  more,  um, 
 forbidden  Psalm  stuff,  I'm 

1359
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,180
 sure,  and  getting  updates 
 on,  uh,  what's  going  on 

1360
01:07:42,180 --> 01:07:43,940
 with  Karen  to  E  because 
 the  Kickstarter  will  be 

1361
01:07:43,940 --> 01:07:47,280
 over  by  then.  Um, 
 and  in  the  process,  the 

1362
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,800
 thing  I  want  to  talk  about
 too  is  more  of  like  about 

1363
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,800
 ACD  and  how  distribution 
 works  are  our  experiences 

1364
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,200
 with  it  because,  um,  the 
 weekend  after  the  next 

1365
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,980
 catch  hats,  we'll  be  going 
 up  to,  uh,  Madison, 

1366
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,280
 Wisconsin  to  ACD  games  day,
 which  is  a  big  retailer 

1367
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,420
 meet  and  greet  where  we 
 get  to  meet  up  to  250 

1368
01:08:06,420 --> 01:08:12,580
 retail  store  owners.  And 
 we  get  to  be  like,  this 

1369
01:08:12,580 --> 01:08:15,480
 is  Daisy  chainsaw.  It's 
 about  magical  girls  and 

1370
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,340
 it's  got  pixel  art  and 
 it's,  you  know,  when  you 

1371
01:08:18,340 --> 01:08:21,939
 explain  to  people,  for  us, 
 it's  normal  to,  this  is, 

1372
01:08:22,020 --> 01:08:24,439
 this  is  going  to  retail  at
 $30,  but  it's  a  game 

1373
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,100
 system  and  it's  everything 
 is  in  there.  And 

1374
01:08:27,100 --> 01:08:29,760
 yes,  it's  seen  size  and 
 it's  spiral  bound.  You 

1375
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,300
 know,  a  lot  of  people  are 
 just  like,  how  do  you  do 

1376
01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:33,479
 that?  And 
 so  it's  our  job  when  we 

1377
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,520
 go  to  ACD  and  games  day 
 to  be  like,  so  this  is 

1378
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,500
 what  you  tell,  you  know, 
 because  once  you  know,  you 

1379
01:08:39,500 --> 01:08:41,899
 know,  once  you  get  bit  by 
 that  bug  of  small  press 

1380
01:08:41,899 --> 01:08:44,340
 and  buying,  I  mean,  I'm 
 pointing  to  my  shelf,  I'm 

1381
01:08:44,340 --> 01:08:46,620
 pointing  to  your  shelf  in 
 the  year  shelf.  You 

1382
01:08:46,620 --> 01:08:49,240
 just,  once  you  get  bit  by 
 the  bug  and  you  see  all 

1383
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:53,020
 the  cool  neat  stuff,  you 
 can  find  versions  of,  of 

1384
01:08:53,020 --> 01:08:55,420
 that  dream  project  and 
 stuff  like  that,  you  know, 

1385
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,120
 like  that  dream  thing  that 
 you've  been  seeing.  And 

1386
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,200
 then  the  best  part  of  it 
 is  too,  is  when  you  get, 

1387
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,319
 when  you  inspire  somebody 
 else  who  picked  it  up  at 

1388
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:06,220
 a  game  store,  oh  yeah,  I 
 know,  I  picked  that  up  at 

1389
01:09:06,220 --> 01:09:08,439
 a  game  store  and  then  I 
 made  my  own.  That's 

1390
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,340
 when  we  win.  That's 
 when  we  win  is  when,  you 

1391
01:09:11,340 --> 01:09:15,180
 know,  you  win  D &D  by 
 getting  people  to  make 

1392
01:09:15,180 --> 01:09:18,060
 stuff  after  they  see  the 
 cool  stuff  that  you  did 

1393
01:09:18,060 --> 01:09:19,979
 because  you  were  inspired 
 by  somebody  else's  cool 

1394
01:09:19,979 --> 01:09:22,640
 stuff  and  it's  the  big 
 cycle,  you  know?  Yeah. 

1395
01:09:23,180 --> 01:09:26,359
 So  I'm  going  to  talk  more 
 about  ACD  and  ACD  games, 

1396
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,439
 dance  stuff  like  that.  And 
 my  understanding  of  how  it 

1397
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,680
 works.  Next 
 month.  I'm 

1398
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,500
 excited  for  that.  I 
 know  when  you  talk  about 

1399
01:09:32,500 --> 01:09:34,479
 all  the  behind  the  scenes, 
 just  just  stuff,  my  brain 

1400
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,020
 just  starts  like  spinning, 
 but  it's  really  cool  to 

1401
01:09:37,020 --> 01:09:41,279
 hear  how  much,  um,  well,  I
 guess  cool  to  hear,  but 

1402
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,240
 maybe  not,  I  don't  know  if
 it's  fun  to,  to  have  to 

1403
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,819
 go  through  all  the  levels 
 and  stuff,  the  level  up 

1404
01:09:45,819 --> 01:09:47,319
 and  stuff.  Sometimes 
 it's  fun.  Sometimes 

1405
01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:49,240
 it's  fun.  A 
 lot  of  times  you're  just 

1406
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,380
 like,  you  know,  I  mean,  I 
 don't  not  so  jokingly  say 

1407
01:09:52,380 --> 01:09:54,300
 just,  I  just  want  to  can 
 it  all.  Can 

1408
01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:57,140
 we  just  stop  and  put  this 
 away,  you  know,  and  go 

1409
01:09:57,140 --> 01:10:00,060
 back  to  the  day  job?  I 
 mean,  I  hate  for  reals,  I 

1410
01:10:00,060 --> 01:10:02,100
 applied  her  to  Duncan  the 
 other  day  because  I  want 

1411
01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:04,060
 to  work  part  time  at  a 
 Duncan  because  I  love 

1412
01:10:04,060 --> 01:10:06,520
 Duncan  Donuts  so  much.  I 
 want  to  see  what  it's  like

1413
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,580
 to  be  on  the  inside  of  a 
 Duncan  Donuts.  I 

1414
01:10:08,580 --> 01:10:10,360
 really  do.  And 
 people  are  like,  but  don't 

1415
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:11,340
 you  have  a  full -time  job? 
 And 

1416
01:10:11,348 --> 01:10:13,040
 I  was  like,  yeah,  yeah, 
 yeah,  we've  got  the  company

1417
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,160
 and  we  do  that.  But 
 I  want  to  learn  more  about

1418
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,260
 dunks  plus  free  coffee  and 
 donuts,  you  know?  That's 

1419
01:10:19,260 --> 01:10:21,720
 why  I  got  started  doing 
 all  this  stuff  was  because 

1420
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,700
 I  didn't  have  the  money  to
 buy  the  books  and  games. 

1421
01:10:23,940 --> 01:10:26,380
 And 
 I  started  editing  and  doing

1422
01:10:26,380 --> 01:10:29,200
 stuff  like  that  because  I 
 wanted  to  get  those 

1423
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,400
 contributor  copies  of  the 
 stuff  like  that,  you  know? 

1424
01:10:31,980 --> 01:10:33,280
 And 
 then  now,  you  know,  500 

1425
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:37,460
 contributor  copies  on.  I'm 
 like,  now  let's  just  do 

1426
01:10:37,460 --> 01:10:40,240
 this  all  the  time,  you 
 know,  like,  let's  get  more 

1427
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,680
 contribute  copies  to  more 
 people.  So 

1428
01:10:42,688 --> 01:10:45,480
 there  you  go.  So 
 apparently  I,  in  order  to 

1429
01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:47,480
 save  money,  I  just  need  to
 start  editing  so  that 

1430
01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:51,080
 people  will  give  me  the 
 books  instead  of  having  to 

1431
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,260
 buy  two  copies.  I 
 hear  you  got  something.  I 

1432
01:10:53,260 --> 01:10:55,120
 hear  you  got  a  little 
 something  cooking.  So 

1433
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,480
 that's  all  I'll  say.  It's 
 all  I'll  say.  We'll 

1434
01:10:57,480 --> 01:10:59,500
 see.  We'll 
 see  what  happens.  Um, 

1435
01:11:00,260 --> 01:11:03,140
 so  that  yeah.  So 
 that's  our  that  is  our  not

1436
01:11:03,140 --> 01:11:05,600
 cat  chats  three.  That's 
 our  episode.  And, 

1437
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,260
 um,  yeah,  still  not,  still 
 not  chatting  cat  too.  Um, 

1438
01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:12,960
 but,  um,  yeah,  check  us 
 next  month  for  Dainty 

1439
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:17,100
 Chainsaw  for  ACD  for,  for 
 everything  new  from  SPI. 

1440
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,200
 And, 
 uh,  and  I  will  have,  uh, 

1441
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:22,340
 the  copies  from  this  month 
 by  then,  uh,  to  show  those

1442
01:11:22,340 --> 01:11:24,800
 off  on  stream  too.  So 
 Jert,  always  a  pleasure. 

1443
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:26,040
 Thank 
 you  so  much.  Jert's 

1444
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,740
 camera.  Thank 
 you  for,  for  hanging  out 

1445
01:11:28,740 --> 01:11:31,280
 with  us  today.  Jert's 
 camera  and  only  fucking  up 

1446
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:36,060
 like.  Yep. 
 And,  uh,  and  Hunter,  I 

1447
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:38,120
 will  see  you.  We 
 realize  what  it  is.  If 

1448
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,100
 I,  if  I  wave  my  hands 
 like  this,  it's  when  it 

1449
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:41,620
 gets  mad.  So 
 I'm  trying  to  make  it  do 

1450
01:11:41,620 --> 01:11:43,380
 it  now  and  it's  not  going 
 to  do  it.  It 

1451
01:11:43,380 --> 01:11:45,260
 just,  it  almost  did  for  a 
 second.  Now, 

1452
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,640
 now  it's,  now  it's  mad 
 that  we're  mad  at  it.  So 

1453
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,280
 it  won't  do  it.  Right. 
 Um,  anyway,  so  Hunter,  I 

1454
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,840
 will  see  you.  I 
 think  maybe  we  might  do 

1455
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,160
 two,  two  reviews  next  week.
 We'll 

1456
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,160
 see.  Yeah. 
 And,  uh,  yeah,  since  we 

1457
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,000
 haven't  done  one  in  like 
 two  weeks.  Um, 

1458
01:12:00,260 --> 01:12:01,600
 that's  it.  That's 
 us.  Jert, 

1459
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,080
 thank  you.  See 
 all  you  guys.  Bye. 

1460
01:12:04,180 --> 01:12:05,580
 Bye.  Bye.
