1 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,840 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll Podcast. 2 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,240 My name is Ryan. And I'm brought to you by Rage 3 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:23,160 Shadow Legends. Wow. 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,080 Have you ever played Raid Shadow Legend? 5 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:28,080 I'm Jared. I'm a special guest, Jared 6 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,000 Crater. But I actually played Raid 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,640 Shadow Legends for a while because I like to play little 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,880 game. He's like that where you have 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,160 your little team and stuff like that and you build up your 10 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:40,160 characters and stuff. And I actually played it for a 11 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:42,840 little while. It's pretty fun, to be honest 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,600 with you. Like I I found it fairly 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,000 enjoyable. That's why we accepted the 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,920 sponsorship I. Mean that's that's the way to 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,080 be. Yeah, I feel like maybe you've 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,680 used that one before. I don't know why. 17 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,360 I think I. Have actually used that one 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,200 before, but you know what? You know we've been doing this 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,960 too long when we're doubling shadow. 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,080 But you didn't have a guest who's actually played Rage 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Shadow? Yeah. 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,120 That's very true. Yeah, and just for people that 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,640 don't get the joke, we're not fucking sponsored by anyone, 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,200 much less rage shadow legends. Sorry, next time I'll say we're 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,760 sponsored by me undies or some. Other. 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,600 There you go. Some other bullshit that 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,920 everyone gets sponsored by. Yeah, we we use our our our 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,720 gamer Subs code for 10% off. Subscribe button. 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,480 Yeah, smash that button. Yeah, So, yeah. 30 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,360 So this is not Cat Chat's number. 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,360 I want to say 10 the first one of the year. 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,000 You know what's crazy is that we actually did nine of them last 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,920 year. I'm that was, I feel like that's 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,840 one of the most consistent things we did all year. 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:46,920 That's. Great. 36 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Yeah, good job, Jared. Yeah, woo. 37 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,600 And for those that might be seeing the first Not Cat Chats, 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,720 this is when the friend of the show, Jert Jarrett Crater, who's 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,280 edited probably every Teach RBG book you've ever picked up, 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,640 comes on the show and talks about a bunch of bullshit with 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,400 us for like 45 minutes and then briefly discusses the new 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,720 releases that Space Penguin Inc is coming out with us for the 43 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,000 month that you should all buy because they all fuck jerk. 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,760 Do we so which so we were talking before stream started 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,440 and we're going to pick one. Are we doing a a pin discussion? 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,120 Are we doing a bread discussion? What are we doing? 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,440 Let's. Talk about pins because I didn't 48 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,280 add to Well, First off, let's let's Hunter and I gang up with 49 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,040 the Sharpie S gels. Sharpie S gels. 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,960 I have red because I'm an editor and I actually still do use the 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,520 red pen. You know, my friend Jen used to 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,480 call her red pen the Red Pen of Doom. 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,080 I don't really call it that, but I do use a red pen sometimes 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,680 when I'm going through manuscripts and stuff. 55 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:56,400 I usually only print out larger manuscripts like stuff that's 56 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,920 like 30,000 words plus because it's a lot easier for me to 57 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:03,920 physically have the book and then be able to flip back and 58 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:06,720 forth in sections rather than look at like a bunch of broken 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,520 up PDFs or not PDFSA bunch of broken up Word documents. 60 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,240 Because that's kind of hard to wrap your brain around and 61 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,360 stuff. Whereas if you have it all at 62 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,320 once, then you can flip back to the beginning and be like, OK, 63 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:20,600 he mentioned it here and you know, they mentioned that there, 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,760 you know, she mentioned this there and stuff like that. 65 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,160 So, but I really enjoy these red pens for like writing and 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,680 everyday notes and stuff like that, so. 67 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,160 Yeah, me too. Brian was saying that listeners, 68 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Ryan was saying that our our Sharpie gel .7 pins were markers 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,760 and I'm like, I don't think it's like a fair. 70 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,120 Comparison. They're not markers. 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,800 I, they're not markers. I defy you. 72 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:50,600 I defy you to take a .7, which I, I, I can't even imagine, 73 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,920 right. You're basically writing with 74 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,520 like a pool cue at that point. Sharpie gel and a Sharpie fine 75 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,600 point marker and then tell me the difference. 76 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,680 Oh I I know because I have AI use a fine part sharpie marker 77 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,920 and it bleeds way more. I think the gel is a less of a 78 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,480 bleed. Yeah, totally. 79 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,720 The the gel on honestly, it's just this is really great 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,560 content we're making right now. It is. 81 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,160 Listen. Everyone HRBG uses pins, right? 82 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,040 We're going to have a notebook discussion next time. 83 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,520 If you want a pin that slides as you write, like easily slides 84 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,840 across page and doesn't feel like, I don't know with the very 85 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:28,720 fine stuff, sometimes I feel like I'm dragging it. 86 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,960 The Sharpie S gel slaps tremendously. 87 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,280 I bought a 12 pack and my fiance was like, why the fuck did you 88 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:40,840 get 12 pens? And like there were $0.40 a pen 89 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:41,760 when you get 12 of them. Yeah. 90 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,560 And I'm like, I'll lose 1 every five months and then after a few 91 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,320 years I'll buy 12 more. Now my current daily driver is 92 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,920 Uniball Vision. It is fine tip. 93 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,240 This is also read. These were gifted to me from a 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,480 good friend's ripped home answer. 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,040 She sent me several care package and I really enjoyed that. 96 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,960 You want to talk about fine tip, Hunter? 97 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,520 I mean, these, they're fine tip. Like they're really, really, 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,880 really good for those watching at home or listening at home. 99 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,840 Jared's drawing on the back of his hand right now with his fine 100 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:19,760 tip. Univision. 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,480 All right, So if you want to talk about fine tip, I will talk 102 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,560 about what I believe to be the superior pin. 103 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,680 And I think it's to me superior for the exact opposite reason of 104 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,200 why Hunter thinks that the gels are superior. 105 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,280 I rock and I've rocked for a very long time, probably going 106 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:44,840 on 1415 years. The Pilot G twos in a .38 ultra 107 00:05:44,840 --> 00:05:47,880 fine, so it is almost half as thick as what you guys are 108 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,480 writing with the seven. So this is what I use for all my 109 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,920 notes and stuff at home. The reason that I started using 110 00:05:52,920 --> 00:06:00,120 this pen is I in my field we used to have to write on paper 111 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,080 even though now it is almost all digital and the paper we used to 112 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,920 have to write on was very small boxes and very tiny sections to 113 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,440 write notes in so I'd have a very small pin. 114 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,720 Also my penmanship is terrible and I blame the fucking system 115 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,800 because I moved from Texas to Pennsylvania between 3rd and 4th 116 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,720 grade and in Texas at the time you learn cursive in 4th grade 117 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,160 but in Pennsylvania at the time you learn cursive in 3rd grade. 118 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,400 So I was a year behind on penmanship and my teachers tried 119 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,640 to like force me to catch up and my penmanship has sucked forever 120 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,440 since. I've even previously bought 121 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,480 penmanship books, like practice books to try to get my 122 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,600 penmanship better. It worked briefly but it still 123 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,400 sucks. But if if I have a thicker 124 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,920 smoother pin, my pen and chip is even worse. 125 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,160 If I have this like scratchy pin that I have to like slow down 126 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,960 really scratches across the paper, my pen and chip is better 127 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,280 because it like if it flows too much it's just like squiggle. 128 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:54,680 It drags a bit, yeah. And it pulls. 129 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,800 It drags and helps you actually stop on those type curds and 130 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,480 stuff like that. Yeah, but what I use at work, 131 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:07,120 what I use at work are actually .5 erasable pins in black, red 132 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,080 and blue, because I constantly have to rewrite over stuff that 133 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,800 I've already written or adjust my notes or take my notes and 134 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,320 things like that. So I do usually use a .5 at 135 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,040 work. I don't remember the brand of 136 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,800 the erasable pins that I use, but that that that is what I 137 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,240 write with more than probably anything since I do work more 138 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,360 than I write at home. And that I guess pins are 139 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,000 supplied at work then. No, not at all. 140 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,760 I buy my own pins. Yeah, Yeah. 141 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,480 I mean, I guess theoretically I could use the work pins, but 142 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,120 they suck and then people touch them. 143 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:47,080 And yeah, I don't want people touching the stuff that I touch. 144 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,680 I'm actually going to tell you. And then we'll move on to the 145 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,880 next tension. The pins I got are pilot 146 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,320 friction. Here we go. 147 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,800 They are still Pilot. They're Pilot friction Ball 148 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:08,560 knock retractable Erasable gel Ink pens .5. 149 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,120 That's what I just said. They're erasable. 150 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,840 Yeah, yeah, that's the only reason I use them. 151 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,880 And what I like about them is that when you buy the pins, you 152 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,320 get the three pack of colors and a three pack of replacement for 153 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,280 each one. So you get the three in the pin 154 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,240 and then three more of each color. 155 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,720 So you end up theoretically with like 10 pins. 156 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,560 Yeah, I just dropped a pen and I really want to get into into our 157 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,039 little group chat. When you guys look, peruse it at 158 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:37,039 your leisure. Yeah, some of that bolt action. 159 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,679 All right. Yeah, still. 160 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,480 Loves, I loves me some right in the rain hunter, Yeah. 161 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:44,920 That's. All my all my notebooks are 162 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,680 right in the rain. Nice. 163 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,560 Pick it out. I don't even know this brand. 164 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,400 So so so how about so? How about tabletop role-playing 165 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,200 games? What about them? 166 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Yeah, what about them? What what? 167 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,120 What about them? What has happened since? 168 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,520 When's the last time you were on Jerk? 169 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,800 Did we do a December episode? Was it a post pack? 170 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,760 We did a December post packs episode, yes. 171 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,880 So what's been happening since then? 172 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,960 While we're still waiting on Karen, it's on a boat. 173 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,240 It's getting closer every day. I'm checking the tracking every 174 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,560 single day. We've had people who are new to 175 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:21,640 crowdfunding be like, I paid for shipping, Shouldn't my stuff 176 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,800 ship? And I'm like, well, you see, you 177 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,120 get charged for shipping and then it takes up to 60 days for 178 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,640 that money to clear backer kit and land in my account. 179 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,160 So then I can purchase mailers, which we've already purchased a 180 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,480 bunch of the boxes for them. And then those will be stamped 181 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,160 with, of course, Karen stamp on the outside and space Penguin on 182 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,760 the outside. And then they'll slowly get 183 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,560 folded and then those will be filled with Karen Joy. 184 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,160 And in the meantime, Debbie has been pushing through the Shrike 185 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:02,280 for Silver Arm Press, Joel Hines and company and got those out 186 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,200 the door. We're sending out the last of 187 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,880 the wholesale orders Monday, tomorrow. 188 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,160 Those are being packed up right now. 189 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,800 So that's cool. And then we're doing, do you 190 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,160 guys know princesses and perils? We do. 191 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,960 Is this a joke or is this serious? 192 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:27,760 Question. I don't know if there was a game 193 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:33,240 in our in our year end review that I fucking glazed more than 194 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,040 than Princesses and Perils. I love the shit out of that 195 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,320 game. It was on like half of our our 196 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,480 list of like best games. It was in my top five games of 197 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,240 the year. I think it was in our total top 198 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,160 five games of the year. Yes, it's great. 199 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,920 Very excited for the expansion. Yeah. 200 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,280 So we're fulfilling that as well. 201 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,640 I'm actually while we're talking here, I'm watching my numbers 202 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,000 push over to our shipping program. 203 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,520 So that that is all good to go and set up very soon. 204 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,520 And then those will start going out this week. 205 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,320 And then we've got Marco's Greenhorns from Spicy Tuna RPG 206 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,680 coming up shortly thereafter. Those should be arriving this 207 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:17,400 week sometime. And then what else we got. 208 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,280 And then, yeah. And then just the big boy, the 209 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,160 big boy, Karen coming. Ghost is always on a Mountain is 210 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:28,160 getting a sample ordered this week and possibly, most likely 211 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,920 probably so is the survivors of the Core Wars decks getting the 212 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,240 sample ordered this week. Both of those are done as far as 213 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,160 like production goes now it's just post production. 214 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,280 So now it's getting samples made and tweaking based off of the 215 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:47,400 samples and all of that stuff, you know, So still working on 216 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,920 getting the Ghost of Zoazana Mountain or no, I'm sorry, the 217 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,480 survivors of the Core Wars backer kit pledge manager going 218 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,640 because I've not shipped decks of cards before. 219 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:01,640 So I know that decks of cards will have to ship USPS ground 220 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:07,640 advantage or you know, ground something from UPS or something. 221 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,000 But we're trying to figure out the sweet spot to make sure that 222 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,000 based on the weight of that deck of cards with the box and 223 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,720 everything with it, that we don't end up housing ourselves 224 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,400 on shipping plus possible tariffs with the incoming 225 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,160 administration. Tomorrow's a big day with a lot 226 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,440 of role-playing Game manufacturers are going to find 227 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,000 out how their year's going to go tomorrow, essentially. 228 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,840 So we'll see what happens. Let's not talk about that too 229 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,360 much. Let's just not jinx it. 230 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,920 Let's just knock on wood. I bought a wooden desk so I can 231 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,760 knock on wood for those listening at home, I'm knocking 232 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,520 on my wooden desk. What else? 233 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:54,920 Behind the scenes, February release is printed and in your 234 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,200 hands for next month, and March release just arrived this week. 235 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,200 April release is going to be Endless Horse from Between the 236 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,880 Stars, which we've already covered it. 237 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,640 It's a crowd fund. So that one's already in and 238 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:15,000 that one's good. And then May release, I don't 239 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,120 know what the May release is going to be yet. 240 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,840 I think it's going to be Rose Thorne Keep from Charlotte 241 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,400 Loskowski and K devs which is a cool solo play. 242 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,520 I have the PDF of that already. Yeah. 243 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,920 So we're going to do a print version of it, and so it's going 244 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,480 to be landscape. So you'll be able to open it up 245 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,360 in landscape and consult all the tables and everything like that. 246 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,840 I've been playing it a little bit as I've been helping 247 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,800 Charlotte edit it and really making it user proof so that 248 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:49,440 when it tells you roll 3D6, you know, roll 36 sided die and 249 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,640 record those numbers for later, that it actually says that as 250 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,800 opposed to roll 3D6. Because you might roll 3D6, but 251 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,680 then you usually if someone says roll 3D6, that means roll 3D6 252 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:04,960 and add them together usually. So we've had to work on some of 253 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,640 the verbiage a little bit just to make sure that people aren't, 254 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,640 you know, rolling 36 sided die and adding them together and 255 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,840 then forgetting about that number. 256 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,800 And you have to take the individual results. 257 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:21,480 But that one's cool. And then we're also working on, 258 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,040 we've got the teaser page up for the Liminal Horror Deluxe 259 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,280 edition, which is going to crowd fund in April. 260 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,840 That book's coming along. Zach has been just killing it 261 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,560 with the art. He's been turning in a lot of 262 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,880 the spot Hillos, the pieces for the resonant artifacts and stuff 263 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,400 like that. He turned all those in the other 264 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,680 day. They look fucking amazing. 265 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,200 Real quick, so I believe they dropped what might be like the 266 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,920 deluxe cover of the deluxe book Yes on blue sky. 267 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,280 Holy shit Hunter, did you see that? 268 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,800 I I reposted it from our blue sky so you can look at ours. 269 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,560 But wow, that slaps super fucking. 270 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,960 Hard so yeah. And we're we're still deciding 271 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,640 if we're going to have like a simpler planer cover as an as 272 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,560 another possible option. We haven't really nailed down 273 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,440 our stretch goals yet on that. We've got a little bit of time 274 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,920 to play with that still. So, but as with most of our 275 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,560 crowd funds, we're keeping it simple. 276 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,760 The improvements, the stretch goals are going to be 277 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,840 improvements to the book and then we've got a couple possible 278 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,680 printed stretch goals, but we're keeping stuff straightforward 279 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,960 and trying to make it as user friendly as possible. 280 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,240 It just especially so it's easier on us on our end, on 281 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,280 fulfillment and shipping and stuff like that. 282 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:42,080 So yeah, so that's kind of what I've been up to and what 283 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,880 Debbie's been up to and what Dai has been up to on the backside 284 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,720 and all the gangs. One moving parts. 285 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,280 Yes, a lot of moving parts. I couldn't tell you the last 286 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,200 time I actually took a day full day off. 287 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,800 So usually there's at least four to six hours a day that works in 288 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,200 for work. So but the like stuff like this, 289 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,960 like doing the show with you guys, it's fun work. 290 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,040 So it doesn't really count. Well, thanks for saying that. 291 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,640 Yes. We hope we're OK. 292 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,120 Just a little. I mean, we know we're terrible, 293 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,400 but. There we go. 294 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,560 We're glad that you still tolerate us. 295 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,240 Let's go with that. But it's always, it's always 296 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,920 great to have jerk on. I mean, watch the other 9 297 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,720 episodes. Jarrett Crater is an awesome 298 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,320 person. Space Penguin is an amazing 299 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,840 company. Everything that I, I have 300 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,400 everything they've put out and, and it's always fantastic. 301 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,040 I'm really excited to talk about this month's is really, I'm 302 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,240 always excited to talk about it. But this month's release is 303 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,600 interesting. Oh, you know what I noticed 304 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,760 about this month release? What? 305 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,440 There was something missing that was there in the last 12 months? 306 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:59,640 Is that a A? I'm blanking. 307 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,000 I know what you're saying. Forbidden Psalm? 308 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,040 Yeah. Forbidden Psalms. 309 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:03,960 There we go. Yeah. 310 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,560 So I know we talked about it before, but Will and you guys 311 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,880 did the monthly for an entire year, which is crazy. 312 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,040 Which is actually. Yeah, and they're all absolutely 313 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,800 fantastic. But that that's done. 314 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:21,920 There's going to be no more monthly forbidden Psalm, right? 315 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,640 I know Will is working on a bunch of stuff, childhood and 316 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,000 some other things. I assume everything all of that 317 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,240 is going to be coming out with you. 318 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,440 I can only. Childhood. 319 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,680 Childhood's going to be run on Will's account. 320 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,720 It's going to be a backer kit because Will wants to learn how 321 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,200 to use backer kit, which is cool. 322 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:46,680 We're going to do full film that and sales and stuff, you know, 323 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,760 after market, after crowdfund on that end and stuff like that. 324 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,960 I'm pretty excited for that one. That was going to land in my 325 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,120 editing desk sometime this week. That one's pretty neat. 326 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:06,400 It's 90s nostalgia, but it's built with ages 8 and up so that 327 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,600 you can get your kids to play these games with you and stuff 328 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,520 like that. So and then there's, I don't 329 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,960 know, I'm hope I'm not blowing the surprise, but there's going 330 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:21,160 to be STLS for it as well. So you'll be able to get some 3D 331 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,960 printed minis of the characters and stuff like that, which is 332 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,040 pretty cool. And that one was going to be 333 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,920 pretty straightforward. That's just going to be soft 334 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,280 cover and like not a, not a whole lot of extras and stuff. 335 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:38,400 We've just kind of figured out what works as far as what goes 336 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,760 with the forbidden Psalm line. And it's, well, it's still based 337 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,960 on forbidden Psalm. It's not quite forbidden Psalm 338 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,080 because we toned it down. We wanted folks to be able to 339 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,200 play it with their kids. So we took out the fact that you 340 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,760 die, you know, you just get sent to way to probation or whatever 341 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,280 and stuff like that kind of thing. 342 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,400 So yeah, I haven't really, I haven't read the full rules yet, 343 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,160 so I'm still waiting on those to hit, but they should be hitting 344 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:10,080 sometime in this week, yeah. Awesome. 345 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,360 You know what's interesting is I've been seeing more and more 346 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:20,400 forbidden Som hacks lately. Ron's got one at Vas Grimm that 347 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,800 he's doing and he's actually doing minis for it and stuff 348 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,600 too. That one's pretty neat looking. 349 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:33,680 Matt Cross and and his buddy are doing a thing called Demise of 350 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,840 the Species, which is is more, it's like a bigger so we did 351 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,720 Forbidden Seas which includes like boats and stuff like that. 352 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,120 But Demise of the Species is like a bigger nautical themed 1. 353 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,920 So I'm going to be editing that one at some point too. 354 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:53,880 And who knows, that one might be coming out under under part of 355 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,160 space Penguin as well. We'll see. 356 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,040 Because I haven't really seen I've seen like work in progress 357 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,560 of that one. But they've been doing a lot, a 358 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,880 lot, a lot of work on it. It's fairly densely packed. 359 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,280 It's going to be a big book. So it's. 360 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:17,320 Coming out, I saw Shmork Hammer from Chris Mcclanahan. 361 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,600 It's the they had previously put out, I think a Merkborg hack, 362 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,680 but it was basically Smurfs, but they were like yellow and black. 363 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,440 And now they're putting out Shmork Hammer, which is the 364 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,400 Merkborg Smurfs, but for Forbidden Psalm. 365 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,680 Oh, cool. Which? 366 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,720 Which? Yeah, which was which is 367 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,360 interesting. I think it's really neat. 368 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:39,880 I didn't really have a massive desire to play as smirk Borg 369 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,040 Smurfs, but I think it's a really fantastic project and I 370 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,760 love a lot of the stuff that Chris is that Chris does. 371 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:50,320 So I dropped the link kit for you in the in the chat, but that 372 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,920 one looks really neat. It's just cool that I mean, it's 373 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,360 crazy how forbidden Psalms blew up so big because I remember 374 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:02,000 like we, we, we, we, we pretend to be just tabletop game 375 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,200 reviewers, right? And I think there's been very 376 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,600 few I we've only done maybe one or two solo games and I think 377 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,440 maybe just the one skirmish game. 378 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,400 But when both of us read forbidden song, we were both 379 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,960 like, fuck, we have to do this. This is amazing. 380 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,240 And it's really, really awesome because we talked to Will like 381 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,360 fucking two years ago or something about forbidden Psalm 382 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:23,760 and it was like first coming out and it's crazy how much it's. 383 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,960 Blown now forbidden. Psalm is 4 years old at this 384 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,120 point. Oh fuck. 385 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,680 Well, I mean. Will and I Will and I have been 386 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,040 working together for almost for almost four years on this. 387 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,920 Our first episode with Will was in 2021, at the very beginning 388 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,840 of 2022. Yeah. 389 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,480 Like the very beginning of it. So it had already been out for a 390 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,880 little bit, but we, yeah, we are not four years old. 391 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,640 But that makes sense. I'm 33. 392 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,400 I'm slightly older, but it's, it's, I don't know, it's great 393 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,320 because first of all, the game is really awesome. 394 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,640 But second of all, and I think we said this over and over and 395 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,480 over again, Will is just such an awesome, awesome person, like 396 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:10,280 just a great, great human being. So I am, I'm very glad to see 397 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,200 every ounce of success that they that they have because they 398 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,200 deserve every single bit of it. And I'm just super excited to 399 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,680 see just how much it's blown up and how much is now coming from 400 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,360 it. And, you know, when Forbidden 401 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:26,640 Song first came out, I never expected, you know, Last War, 402 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,320 Dread Knight, you know, Elder Tor. 403 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,840 Now we're moving on to like a kids version of the game. 404 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,600 And all of them are just as good as the last. 405 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,200 And it's just, it's just really, really wrong. 406 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,400 There's a Zombie 1 coming out and then this year called Hope 407 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,520 is for the Dead that it's in play test right now. 408 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,160 It's testing the noise mechanic to make sure that you don't just 409 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,680 get overrun with zeds every single turn. 410 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,080 There's we're going to we're going to do the redux of kill 411 00:22:54,080 --> 00:23:01,800 sample process revised and expanded and re edited and maybe 412 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,960 added some extra stuff to it. So I guess that's what expanded 413 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,240 me. And so I said that that's going 414 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,600 to come out at some point this year. 415 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,480 That's just been sitting up here on my desk waiting for a while. 416 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,880 I've got a small Zine that will did called irradiated remain. 417 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:23,160 It's going to come out at some point, yeah. 418 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:28,040 So no FP monthlies, but plenty of FP content coming out of this 419 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,200 year. So and some crowd funds to go 420 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:35,360 along with it and just more new books, both some soft cover, 421 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:41,280 some hard covers. So yeah, really excited for 422 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,520 that. Well, very cool. 423 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,760 I was trying to find the first time we actually talked about 424 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,040 forbidden Psalm. And I know the first time we 425 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:53,000 talked to Will was episode 34. That's 150 something episodes 426 00:23:53,000 --> 00:24:01,400 ago, which is crazy, but I can't remember what episode was like 427 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,000 the first time we actually talked about forbidden Psalm. 428 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:10,920 Oh, episode 18. Wow, that was quite a long time 429 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,320 ago. Yeah, again, awesome for them. 430 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:18,680 And then and obviously it's awesome that you and Will are 431 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,520 working together on this because there's two of our favorite 432 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,080 people in the world and two of our favorite people on TTRPGS. 433 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,200 So couldn't ask for a better team up to get this over and 434 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,560 over and over and over and then more and more and more of it. 435 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,480 More and more and more of it. We've got a comic book one that 436 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,480 we've been that we've talked about that maybe won't make it 437 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,560 out this year. There's also a space one that's 438 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,280 in process and being worked on. He's working on another one with 439 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,120 one of his partners. He's just, he's a never ending 440 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:54,240 font of creativity. And yeah, just we're a pretty 441 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,040 good tag team making good, clean, easy to use rule books 442 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,600 and stuff like that. And yeah, just more importantly, 443 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,840 focusing on making them fun rather than making them like 444 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,120 mechanically confusing and stuff like that. 445 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:15,760 You know, definitely with a narrative driven campaign inside 446 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,800 versus, you know, points in math and stuff like that. 447 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,560 Like there's points in math, but we're just, we want you to have 448 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,440 fun when you play Forbidden Song, whether you're playing at 449 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,240 solo or Co-op or versus or tag team or group or whatever. 450 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,160 Well, that's one thing that drew us to us in the 1st place too, 451 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,400 was that you can just play. You could just play Forbidden 452 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,640 Song as a tabletop role-playing game. 453 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,560 You don't even need any of the skirmish rules at all if you 454 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,280 really want. And and that's just a bit of a 455 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,120 Merkboard hack, but honestly, I I'm I'm I'm shocked that that 456 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:48,880 Will's been putting out this much con like this much stuff 457 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,320 for this long without burning out and seems to thrive on it 458 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,800 because they've definitely done more in one day on a game. 459 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,840 And then I've done in like the five years I've been working on 460 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,960 like the one game that I've been working on, which is crazy. 461 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,760 If I could have an ounce of of their stick to itiveness, I 462 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,080 could maybe actually accomplish anything at all. 463 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:13,960 But but for the. 28 Psalms and Horse War duo coming out for 464 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:19,000 Zine quest Zine month as well. I just edited those over last 465 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,520 week and those are pretty solid. Looking good. 466 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:26,160 Too, I saw 28 psalms also putting out their own book too 467 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,880 of like all of their articles in like 1 giant book or something. 468 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,400 2828 mag you mean? Yeah. 469 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,200 Yeah. 28 mag. I'm sorry. 470 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,760 Yeah. 28 mag Yeah. Yeah, putting out collected, I 471 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,320 collected of some of their selected articles, so that's 472 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,520 pretty cool too. Cool. 473 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,040 That's cool. Yeah, I'm getting deeper and 474 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,760 deeper into skirmish wargaming. So I'm I'm I'm I'm catching up 475 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,160 on where people have been for years. 476 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,040 So that's going to be a good catch up for me with 28 Meg and 477 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,640 and forbidden Psalm is definitely my my gateway in that 478 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,960 and kill team as a publisher who. 479 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,560 Works in that I'm still way behind based on what everyone 480 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,720 else has got going on. Like there's just constant, 481 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,040 constant turn, constant creativity behind the scenes, 482 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,600 people making all kinds of new and neat stuff for it. 483 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,760 So that's really cool. It's interesting, I've been 484 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,440 talking to a couple random people about that and I, I bring 485 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,960 up that and I've had more than one person basically say, and, 486 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,840 and this is very, this is not like a, a universal discourse or 487 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,280 anything. I've had a couple people say to 488 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,760 me that they're kind of leaning more into skirmish games right 489 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,960 now because tip top role-playing, just discourse and 490 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,200 conversation, stuff like that. Sometimes it's just so off 491 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,560 putting that if you could just make it a skirmish game and just 492 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,760 like play the rules of the game and have fun playing it. 493 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,360 Sometimes it's easier than like having someone like argue about 494 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:47,800 mechanics or like the way a game is supposed to be or, or what it 495 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,280 is and what's not a game and stuff like that. 496 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,240 And it's an interesting conversation when it comes up. 497 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,840 Yeah, It feels that niche that I think is missing from 4 Ed and D 498 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,160 where you would have those combats that could take you, you 499 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:08,720 know, an entire session. Now you can get those again if 500 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,440 you really want to. Not that you ever couldn't. 501 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,040 You could just play for E if you really wanted to, but you could 502 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,760 if you enjoy that tactical battle map style, you can 503 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,280 replicate that really quickly and really super easily. 504 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,800 Very. Excited, very stoked. 505 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,800 We're going to play. What are we playing? 506 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,200 We're playing Malagas in our. Yeah, I downloaded the they mod 507 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,080 for a virtual tabletop simulator that allows you to play Malagas, 508 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:46,320 which I've read several times. It is a skirmish like war game 509 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,640 about playing as several necromancers written by Tom 510 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,280 Bloom. Cool. 511 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,760 Yeah, it seems really cool. I watched some people play it 512 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,200 and I was like, oh, there's a lot of like interesting 513 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,280 abilities and like ways to, you know, your units can like level 514 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,720 up over like several games and yeah, a lot of a lot of fun 515 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,640 times to be had. There's got to be a mod at this 516 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,080 point that someone made for last war or or forbidden Psalm for 517 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,160 TiVo top simulator. There has to be. 518 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,280 There has. To be if. 519 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,040 If that's not a thing, have you guys ever thought about making 520 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,120 some type of like digital? We've considered it. 521 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,440 The biggest concern with it is time investment because we'd 522 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,520 really want to be actively involved in that. 523 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:36,080 And if you can't put your active time in there, then you're 524 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,320 talking about putting in money to have someone do it, right. 525 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:45,880 So it's one of those we've just shield away from the BTT space, 526 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,440 both with that and both with the rest of the stuff that comes out 527 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,520 from Space Penguin just because we can't afford the time yet to 528 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,960 really make it saying, you know, we've we've discussed loosely 529 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,960 with a couple of people on how to do that and how to make it 530 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,160 work for, you know, some of our stuff. 531 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,360 But there we might do something like that in the future for some 532 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,280 of our modules. But for me personally, it's 533 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,040 making the physical book is the important part. 534 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,440 Like that's the that's the biggest key to me. 535 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,560 Like that's I want to make, I want to make actual physical 536 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,720 books and stuff like that. I'm all for demo for digital 537 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,600 versions and things like that, but I just like the physical 538 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,960 book. I just really enjoy having it in 539 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,080 my hands. I couldn't agree more. 540 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,920 But also it sounds like I understand he found one very 541 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,480 quickly. So that's the thing about making 542 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,600 something that people really enjoy is that the fans will just 543 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,400 make the shit anyway. So is that. 544 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,960 Yeah, yeah. Which is which is cool. 545 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,160 We what game did we look at? We looked at some game recently. 546 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,200 I can't remember what it was, but some of the best resources 547 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,760 and information we found on it was literally a fan page that 548 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,360 had like got together. I what I can't remember what 549 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,320 game it was that we looked at. Maybe Oh, it's alien RPG. 550 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,480 They it was this insane page. We thought it was official, but 551 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,840 it was just some fan page that was like 1000 times better than 552 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,080 like the support from free league. 553 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,760 So you know, people that that you know that a whole thing 554 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,720 about like maybe if you are run a business and your employees 555 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,680 like what they're doing, they'll give you good hard work as 556 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,320 opposed to anyway capitalism. That's usually how it goes. 557 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,280 Yeah, you. Want to talk about new releases 558 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,480 I. Was just going to stay. 559 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,520 We got we got the new news, we got the new stuff. 560 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,200 Oh hold on, I got to do the same thing. 561 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,200 For those listening at home, we're holding up copies of the 562 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,240 new stuff. New stuff. 563 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,240 So you want to talk about which one you'd want to talk about 564 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,800 first? Let's go with the let's go with 565 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,760 the game first, and then we'll go with the adventure. 566 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:58,040 OK, Tar nation. Tar nation? 567 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:05,960 What in Tar Nation? Great, interesting book because 568 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,640 I, I said I talked about this a bit maybe before stream, maybe 569 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,440 during stream, I don't remember. It's all a blur at this point. 570 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,520 But I'm not, I'm not really a solo journaling fan. 571 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,920 I have a ton of solo journaling games. 572 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,960 I like them as a concept and like to read them, but like I 573 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,360 prefer solo adventure games, you know, like 12 years and things 574 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,000 like that. But Tarnation is very 575 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:31,120 interesting and weird and seems really awesome and it comes with 576 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,920 two adventures and a dope like character sheet bookmark 577 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,080 situation. So So what? 578 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,120 So what is what is what is tarnation sold? 579 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:44,520 Adventures beyond the Wild West. So it's a weird West, Wild West 580 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,840 solo RPG. So you've got your prompts and 581 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,520 you've got your, you've got your basic, your character creation 582 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,080 and then you've got your prompts and then you're writing. 583 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,560 It's like a solo journaling RPG. I'm sure listeners have played 584 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,680 those before and things like that. 585 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,920 But it very much deals with things that are just kind of 586 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,920 just a little bit weird and just kind of off putting just out of 587 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,000 reach type, sort of stuff like that. 588 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,080 Think like Joe Lansdale's fiction and stuff like that, 589 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,760 like Jonah Hex and Weird W Tales and stuff like that. 590 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,120 So it's written and created by Symbolic City. 591 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,840 And they reached out. They had originally had a book 592 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,440 that was going to be published when in my time when I was at 593 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,840 EF. And I don't know if that ever 594 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,640 happened or not. But yeah, they came to me with 595 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,400 this full package, complete with the plan to release, you know, 596 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,200 these pamphlets, adventures, which include more prompts and 597 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,720 more situations for you to deal with and your adventures. 598 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,960 And even though I swore that I wasn't going to do, I swore to 599 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,360 Debbie that I wouldn't do any more sets where she had to like 600 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,840 compile stuff to together into a plastic bag. 601 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,040 We still did them anyway. And it's really cool. 602 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,800 It's it's really neat because we get the Zine printed at Mix AM 603 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,320 and then we get the the pamphlets and the character 604 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,280 sheet printed at our local place down the street. 605 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,080 And they do a really nice job. It's a really nice set total and 606 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,000 it's just one of those things like it just, it just peaks your 607 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,800 interest enough. You're just, you know, you're 608 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,520 like weird and West and just kind of where you can go from 609 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,480 that. So I'm actually one of these 610 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,000 days when I get some more time, I'm going to actually start my 611 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,000 own character and try to do it and do an actual journal. 612 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,639 So I'm really bad about getting to play the modules that I 613 00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,600 create and their help create and publish and stuff like that. 614 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,000 I can run those. Those are easy, like easy to get 615 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,159 together, but it's the solo play stuff and like the skirmish 616 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,040 stuff like that that takes a little bit more dedication to do 617 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,720 it. So let me let me go on record 618 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:03,400 for saying that I am going to at some point this year try and 619 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,320 play some tarnation by myself. I. 620 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,600 Mean so what's probably maybe today actually. 621 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,360 Yeah, yeah, I recently pulled out a bunch of a bunch of other 622 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,440 solo stuff to start doing more solo stuff again. 623 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,760 I pulled out lay on hands to run through again. 624 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:22,920 I pulled out pulled out some Alfred Valley stuff that wasn't 625 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,400 empty light to run through again. 626 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,280 So this is going to go right on the solo pile. 627 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,880 You know one thing I love about this book too, They did a really 628 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,720 good job first of all, making and explaining the book. 629 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,400 But the adventure that they put in, which is almost like half 630 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,440 the book they put an adventure in, but specifically wrote it in 631 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,400 such a way that it teaches you how to play as you go. 632 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,640 So there's like instructions in every little section. 633 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,440 So if something's not quite clear in the actual rules, which 634 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,200 are really straightforward and I'm pretty, pretty simple, they 635 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,400 still do a really, really fantastic job of all of this. 636 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,880 Gray on every page is like explaining step by step as you 637 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,720 go through, which is really, really neat. 638 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,000 And then now like you said with the set, you get the adventure 639 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,840 in the book and two more adventures. 640 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,440 So you get 3 adventures, which is fucking crazy. 641 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,800 But yeah, really weird, really interesting. 642 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,640 I don't want to give away, you know, too much by the fucking 643 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,040 book. We'll make sure that there's 644 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,720 links down to it, but it's such a weird, like you said, just 645 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:24,840 like West, but like the dial turns just like a notch or two 646 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,120 and it's really fucking. It's really, really, really. 647 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,160 Yeah. And it's, it's not, it's not 648 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,480 like gory and it's not like, you know, you're homicidal maniac 649 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,720 and stuff like that. It's just, it's just off kilter 650 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,440 weird as the best way to describe it. 651 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:41,600 So I love that. It's good. 652 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,400 I'm I'm, I'm I'm a big fan. As soon as I flipped it open, 653 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,560 honestly, as soon as I flipped it open and read just the inside 654 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,760 cover, I was like you. This hooked me for days. 655 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,080 Like absolutely immediately very vibes right off the right off 656 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,400 the top. So excited to dig deeper into 657 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:03,840 that one and then and. Then we have unbidden gifts of 658 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,160 the Tyrion Veil and this one for those listening at home. 659 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,520 This one is all slightly larger size. 660 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,080 This is Royal Leo. Let me actually tell you what 661 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,200 the actual size of this is called. 662 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,600 It's not called Royal Leo. It's called I asked Cat. 663 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,840 I asked the creator what it what it's called. 664 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,480 Yeah, Kersh put out some awesome stuff on their itch page. 665 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,400 So then go check that out and make sure that's linked as well. 666 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,840 Yeah, you're looking that. Really creative. 667 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,040 I wanted to ask too what size is swivers because you edited 668 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,360 swivers. Swivers is one of the B sizes. 669 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,680 OK. All right. 670 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:47,360 That's what somebody suggested and I figured it was to rue. 671 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,960 So it is an off, not an off, not an uncommon size. 672 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,360 Royal Leo, it's gosh Dang it, but we had a conversation and 673 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,400 then we talked and it wasn't Royal Leo. 674 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,760 It was a different size. There's a, there's a different 675 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,720 name for it, but it's definitely larger than your traditional 676 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:10,040 scene. Like it's definitely meant meant 677 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,240 that way because it's more visual heavy. 678 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:17,480 There's more art and design elements that go into this, but 679 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:24,920 it's pretty much a big, a nice big little location that you 680 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,480 popped out on your map and there's this cup and the cup 681 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,320 does weird things and we don't want to. 682 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,480 I don't want to give away too much about what happens in the 683 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,920 module, but it you can definitely deal with 684 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,520 lycanthropes and all that kind of stuff. 685 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,960 Definitely. It's Cat's first big published 686 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,120 in print physical work, and she's got several more that 687 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,760 she's going to be coming out with this year. 688 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,840 I hope I get to publish them. And it's just one of those she's 689 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,080 Cat's been around for a while and recently got back into 690 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:09,600 creating in the RPG scene. And it definitely between that 691 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,200 and the combination of all of the design work and elements 692 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:18,000 that she did and it's got art by Chow, it just definitely, I'm 693 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,240 really hoping that people pick this one up and play it and drop 694 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:27,400 it in because there is a dearth in my opinion of easily dropped 695 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,760 in a bowl locations. There's big locations and 696 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,640 there's big adventures and there's big hex crawls and 697 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,600 there's big mega dungeons and things like that. 698 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,920 But this is something that you could pick up and drop in and 699 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,840 play for three to five sessions. And it's enough information in 700 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,320 there to really get your characters and players involved 701 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,520 in that section of the area for like 3 to 5 sessions. 702 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,920 And if you get 5 or 10 of those, then you've got a year's worth 703 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,000 of gaming, you know, or half a year's worth of gaming so. 704 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,400 Absolutely. I you know, one of the things 705 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,160 that I really love in the module without giving too much away. 706 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,720 So I I completely forgot that I have the PDFs pulled up. 707 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:08,640 So I never even flipped through ternation as we went through. 708 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,320 But the map is is really neat. I flipped through that on the 709 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,800 PDF a little bit, but they do a really fantastic job on the page 710 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,800 that I have up right now where there is a cool map that's 711 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,080 numbered. So then the opposite side has 712 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,000 like the explanations, but beneath that is a really awesome 713 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,160 point crawl map and I love that where you could either use like. 714 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,960 The abstract map to do whatever you want, but using the point 715 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,840 crawl built across like the other map is such a fucking good 716 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,280 idea. I love me a good point crawl. 717 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,120 I honestly prefer point crawls to hex crawl. 718 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,960 Well, I guess just different purposes, different different 719 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,560 different uses. But point crawls are so I don't 720 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,320 know, they're fun, they're interesting. 721 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,160 It makes things a lot easier to to run. 722 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,760 And I think this page is fantastic with the the top being 723 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,320 the map and you can see how the point crawl would lay over what 724 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,680 the map is. And they did a really, really 725 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,880 fantastic job of that. And the adventure is just like 726 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,120 dark and fun and cool. And of course, obviously, like, 727 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,680 you know, I mean, the the back cover says even now the taste 728 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,280 stains my dreams. I mean, you know, you got me. 729 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,960 You won me over, you know, And then anything with Chow Art in 730 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,720 it obviously is going to look good. 731 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,240 So and it's definitely full of good, really great purples and 732 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:21,800 greens. It was definitely a purple and 733 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,920 green month between the cover of you Look. 734 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,360 They're kind of like the opposites of each. 735 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,440 Other. They really are, you know, 1 736 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,000 heavy green and then purple and then the other one purple, you 737 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,600 know, heavy purple and then green. 738 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,240 And that wasn't intentional that they like these two creative 739 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:42,760 teams had have never met as I'm the I'm the link between them. 740 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:51,320 But yeah, really, really cool. So yeah, yeah, they're great. 741 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,480 And and cats put, like I said, cats put a bunch of neat stuff 742 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,800 out on itch. I know, I think Chow worked on 743 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,560 some other things that they put out. 744 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,600 So good little duo right there with with some of the stuff that 745 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,480 they've done. But really excited to see 746 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,400 because you said this is the first actually like officially 747 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,680 printed thing that Cat Cat got printed, right? 748 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,520 Yeah. Excited to see more. 749 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,840 Everything that I've seen from Cat has been fantastic. 750 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,920 So really, really hope that, like you said, you get to print 751 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,480 more of them and we'll get to see more of their stuff. 752 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,520 So yeah. We're, we're, we're sticking 753 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,080 with that one to two releases a month, you know, kind of 754 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,560 spotlighting newer creators as best we can and sticking with 755 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,280 our, you know, our old friends and old pals and stuff like 756 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,080 that. And we're definitely, we're 757 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,600 doing stuff like this, like that one is stated for quote UN quote 758 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,240 D&D. So you can kind of use it for 759 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:48,480 any of your D's and D's. You can use it for DC, like I'm 760 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,720 going to run it in DCC because it's really simple and easy to 761 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:55,080 pick up and just throw stats in if you need to. 762 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,600 But we're definitely going to have some D&D stuff this year. 763 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,440 We're going to have some DCC stuff here. 764 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:06,480 Next month's release is ADCC point crawl situation, which is 765 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,960 pretty cool. We've got some other liminal 766 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,760 horror stuff. We've got, you know, again, like 767 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,200 we said, talked about more forbidden Psalm stuff coming 768 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,360 out. I'm hoping to find one or two 769 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,760 more mothership modules to release this year. 770 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,560 I'm waiting for people to come up with new stuff. 771 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:27,400 That's one of the fun parts of my job is because we're like 772 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,480 three to four months out when releases go and we don't have to 773 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,640 have a new release every single month if we don't have, if we 774 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,320 don't want to. But we do generally try to stick 775 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:41,840 with one release and new release a month at least we're I'm 776 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,080 really hoping to get at least one or two more motherships for 777 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,680 this year. I'd love to have some more DCC. 778 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,800 So listeners, if you're out there and you have, you know, 779 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,440 nearly completed ZEMS and you're, if you're looking for a 780 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,640 publisher, you want to know how we work at Space Penguin, like, 781 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:03,840 you know, support at Space Penguin, dot me and we'd love to 782 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,160 talk to you and stuff like that. Always interested in meeting new 783 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,800 people and stuff like that. Not interested in your ideas or 784 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,160 your unwritten manuscripts. We're written it. 785 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,400 We're looking at stuff that's further along the line. 786 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,840 That's mostly done. Well, if I just send you a 787 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,560 concept. Yeah. 788 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,000 I mean, I'll say thank you because I really, I mean, I 789 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,480 really do appreciate people taking the time to reach out and 790 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,320 I'll read it over. But like, I mean, we'll just 791 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,360 keep it in the pile. Like it's one of those. 792 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,840 It's one of those because we're a smaller company and because 793 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,040 our budget is a lot smaller, we look for stuff that's more 794 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,160 completed like that's definitely there before it and when it's 795 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,880 ready to go. And I know that a lot of people 796 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,880 don't like that because they've been like, what do you do? 797 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,320 And I was like, well, we do all the marketing and we do all the 798 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,320 distribution. We do all the fulfillment. 799 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,920 If we go to crowdfund, we do the crowdfund too. 800 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,480 So it's definitely there's work to what we do. 801 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,480 There's a lot of work to what we do so. 802 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,280 Yeah, well, and then you also personally have like a a huge 803 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,320 docket of of editing stuff on your desk at all times. 804 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,200 So it's not like you can dev edit every single person that 805 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,520 comes to you with an idea that would be, yeah, there's like 4 806 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,440 of you guys, yeah. We're just I'm I'm just about 807 00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:20,440 wrapped up with my at its passes through wages of sin, the new 808 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,480 big mothership book. And then after that I've got the 809 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,840 demise of the species. And then I've got, you know, the 810 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:34,600 forbidden Psalm stuff coming up. And then there's two more of the 811 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,080 mothership month releases. I'm editing those. 812 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,200 Once those are getting closer to being done, there's going to be 813 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,080 a secret. I don't know how secret a 814 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,200 project is, but there's a going to be a Redux version of a 815 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:54,040 previous mothership release from from a third party creator 816 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,560 that's going to get some flesh out. 817 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,640 So there's some dev stuff that's going to be going along with 818 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,920 that and then some actual editing and stuff like that. 819 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,080 So yeah, my first half of this year is nicely packed up. 820 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,560 Yeah, I know that there were a couple people talking about 821 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,840 doing the the big mothership thing, but they weren't sure how 822 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,600 how close, like the pirate theme, like how hard people were 823 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:19,880 sick of that. So I know there's some models 824 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,840 out there that that were were, you know, further along that 825 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,400 didn't quite get put into that. I'm curious if they're going to 826 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,240 go for Zine Quest or maybe reach out to Space Penguin and get 827 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:31,680 some more mothership module stuff out there. 828 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,920 So, so yeah, that is, that is us. 829 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,880 I think, 'cause you, you got, you got a, you got, you got 830 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,880 sports ball to watch they. Ran sports balls to watch. 831 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,120 Yeah. Oh yeah, brother. 832 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,680 Yeah, I'm a big. You know what I got into 833 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,680 recently? I got into. 834 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,880 Professional sumo, really big fan. 835 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,600 Now, nice sumo. Yeah. 836 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,400 Oh yeah. Yeah, I've been. 837 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,360 Watching. All day for like 5 days. 838 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,560 They're live right now. Nice. 839 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:04,760 I've been watching Dakar like the road race because I edited 840 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,840 Sean Richard's Smugglers Pass for Orbital Intelligence, you 841 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:15,560 know, which is the Dakar raid, rally, rally raid on in DCC and 842 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,240 stuff like that. And the Dakar is like, I got to 843 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:21,920 actually catch up with this past week of Dakar and stuff like 844 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,200 that. It's nice because it's a big 845 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,440 long race through the deserts and it's just a game of 846 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,480 attrition. Like it's so impressive that 847 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,880 they can actually get these motorcycles and these little 848 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,040 ATVs and these cars and these trucks through that desert. 849 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,400 Like it's, it's just insane. Like the amount of time, the 850 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,600 amount of dedication reminds me of people dedicated to creating 851 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,040 role-playing games. It really does. 852 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,240 Like. Very iconic, very much full of 853 00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:50,360 iconoclasts. I enjoy it. 854 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,280 It's definitely interesting in the the myriad and plethora of 855 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,280 ways that human beings push themselves. 856 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:02,120 It is whether it be whether it be with pen, gel pen or or 857 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,600 motorcycles across the desert. It it really gets us complete 858 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,040 look at look at us. Look at us. 859 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,040 Yeah. That is not cat chats 10 expect 860 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,080 your back. We're we're I mean, we're going 861 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,160 to try to get 12 not cat chats episodes in. 862 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,200 We'll probably move to Sunday for at least a while as long as 863 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:26,640 your schedule permits. That'll free us up to do an 864 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,840 extra review a month, or if we skip one, we won't. 865 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,320 We won't lose 1, so that'll be fun to expect. 866 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,080 You're on Sundays and our review is still on Fridays and that's 867 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,200 it. Next month will be not Cat 868 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,400 Chat's 11. I'm excited for next month's 869 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,480 release. I've already got a peek and it's 870 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,000 it's neat. So jerk. 871 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,880 As always, thank you so much for being here. 872 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,280 Thank you for having me on. Appreciate it as always, good to 873 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,920 see. You later, bye. 874 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,360 Have have fun playing rage shadow legends.