1 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,200 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll podcast. 2 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,000 My Name Is Ryan. And I'm Android 17. 3 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:26,800 And today we are going to be looking at mecha concrete. 4 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:32,880 This is a chip Toon fantasy RPG where you and your friends play 5 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:38,160 as a squad of robots or meccas, exploring a medieval world full 6 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:41,320 of peril and morally questionable inhabitants. 7 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,000 This is from Novicento Manfredi Zemo 2023. 8 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,080 I got this from Ratty and Contadi. 9 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,520 Look at that big logo on the back with them. 10 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,880 Rats. Great logo. 11 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:55,120 Look at that. Yeah, this is, it's an 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,920 interesting little scene we meant to do this last time. 13 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,520 I think we're still kind of transitioning out of our Zine, 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,720 our Zine period back into, you know, I don't want to bigger, 15 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,800 bigger, bigger games and projects, but. 16 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,840 But also still sometimes scenes. Yeah, I mean, scenes. 17 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,120 Scenes are easy. It's supposed to be quick, even 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,960 though it still takes two hours. But but yeah, but yeah. 19 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:19,080 How's it? How's it going buddy? 20 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,520 Oh, you know, yeah. I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm steady 21 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,040 chilling, brother. How are you? 22 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,800 I am the same. I am also doing that. 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,320 Very, very cool. Look at us. 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Yeah, don't get a lot of yeah, don't get a lot of new news to 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,720 kick off. I guess we'll talk about stuff 26 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,040 at the end. We got some side quests coming 27 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,080 up. We got some other stuff coming 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,000 up. Right. 29 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,200 What A lot of the projects just wrapped. 30 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,000 I know a few just launched as well. 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,360 Yeah, there's stuff going on. There's things, yeah. 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,200 Talk about it. There's things and stuff. 33 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,400 There's things and stuff. We'll save that for another 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,080 episode. Yeah, it's this. 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,040 This will, this will, this will probably be a quick one. 36 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,560 So let's just bust it out. Let's get one back on our belt. 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,200 We missed. We missed one last week and 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,479 we'll get back on the groove here. 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,720 So, so yeah, so let's just let's just hop right in. 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,280 Yeah, absolutely. Let's do it. 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,120 Mecha concrete. A chip tune. 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,760 Fantasy RPG. So right off the bat cover, 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,920 there's art on it. There's robots. 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,160 Yeah, there's there's like cultists. 45 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Cultists and robots and. Yeah, like laser beams, punching 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,120 holes and dudes and cloaks and stuff like that. 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,120 It's a it's a vibe, I really. Like, I like the robot with the 48 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,960 like kind of traditional witch's cap, but also like a a 49 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,200 traditional axe and then like a riot shield. 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,200 Yep, and but like very, very robot. 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Like. So there's three kinds of robots 52 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,640 in the game that will get to meccas, meccas, but they're 53 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:03,320 they're robots and all three are here on the cover and like we 54 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,520 said, they're battling cultists. It looks like there's a a big 55 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,120 hole in dungeon wall behind them and there's like 4 cultists once 56 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,800 again blast with a laser beam. One's getting blasted with like 57 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,760 a shoulder, shoulder missile and there's two more, you know, 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,160 threatening with with little daggers on these giant robots. 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,200 So, So yeah, it's a vibe. I like it. 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:26,800 I like the colors, The style's interesting, and. 61 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,400 It is. It's a type of, like, cartoon. 62 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,800 I'm trying to think of like a like something to compare it to, 63 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:43,440 to give the listeners a better context, a comic book, cartoony 64 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:43,920 art. It's it. 65 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,160 Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, it's good. 66 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,760 I mean, so the, the author of the game, the game writer, 67 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,280 designer, illustrator, everything is all, as I said, I 68 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,400 believe it's Novacento, Novacento, Manfredi, they did 69 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:05,080 everything, it seems. And yeah. 70 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,560 And there's a respectable amount of art in this, which I just 71 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,680 imagine like writing this, doing the layout and the art. 72 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,400 It's just like that's a lot of time for and and there's a lot 73 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,200 of like page art and. Yeah, it's pretty good. 74 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,880 Well, I mean it's got to be nice to be able to do all the art for 75 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,960 your own game. So, I mean, I think we talked 76 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,160 about this a little bit off stream. 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,080 I do, I do dig the art. I think the the style is a 78 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,240 little cartoony for my taste, but it's good for what it is. 79 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,200 I agree. I feel. 80 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,200 I feel the same way. It is. 81 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,560 It is good. But it's not what? 82 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,080 Yeah, absolutely. Uh, huh. 83 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,600 Yeah. So we got an index here. 84 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:55,320 We also have no hyperlinks. It's not bookmarked at all, but 85 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,240 it's only like 23 pages. It's a pretty small thing. 86 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,960 It's not a big deal. It does have that nice Henokoto 87 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:05,600 human made logo on it because fucking AI, even the fact that 88 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:12,720 we call it AI is so dumb. But but yeah, CCBY like this is, 89 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,960 it's a, it's a it's open to hack. 90 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:20,560 It is all Creative Commons. And you can find mecha concrete 91 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,600 and more stuff at novasentimentfreddie.wordpress.com 92 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:31,840 or at the Nova sento dot IO. That's NOVECENTO dot IO dot IOI 93 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,840 know there is more mecha concrete. 94 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,200 There is like a couple of adventures that are out and 95 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,280 things like that. So that's cool. 96 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,720 But but yeah, index wise we get an introduction character 97 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,440 creation, like the accessories that go with the robots, combat 98 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,040 enemies, a little good stuff. Yeah, and a character sheet. 99 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,160 And that's that's about. It She's pretty good. 100 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,360 Yeah I do like the character sheet so. 101 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,240 So getting on the first page we'll just we'll we'll hop in 102 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,240 with some some what are your what are your thoughts before we 103 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:14,680 get in here what one line. What about yours? 104 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:21,280 Yeah, I do like this game This is going to be and you just want 105 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:24,840 to go over because I do really enjoy it. 106 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,600 And clearly, you know, some, like, they did the art, they did 107 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,600 the writing, they did design, they did everything. 108 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,360 Which is awesome to be able to put out the scene all by 109 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,520 yourself. I'm still incapable since I 110 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,640 can't finish one fucking thing. Damn. 111 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,600 But but I feel like. I feel like it would have been 112 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,680 nice to have like one other person. 113 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,480 Maybe like an editor, Yeah. Yeah, I I got a better. 114 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,000 I got a better line. Lot of dice, you know? 115 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,520 That's my, that's my line. Lot of dice. 116 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,720 So kicking off on the very first page, it is what is a meta 117 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,280 concrete. I'll run through this real 118 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:05,240 quick. It's interesting that all of 119 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,320 this is on one page, and we'll talk about why at the end. 120 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,160 So what is meta concrete, and is it rules like TTRPG, where you 121 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,000 and your friends are robots or meccas in a medieval world? 122 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:20,240 You say robots, Robots it's, and I know it's robots. 123 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,760 That's not how I really say it. You and your mecha companions 124 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,240 will make your way into ancient castles, cursed dungeons, and 125 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,280 haunted villages. There you will face countless 126 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,080 wretched creatures, cultists, and zealots to confiscate their 127 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,560 silver pieces, seize their artifacts, and perform any other 128 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,160 missions on behalf of the processor mothership. 129 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,600 The savage creatures that inhabit this world never set a 130 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,600 chance for the eternal glory of the processor fight until you 131 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,880 are scrap. It's interesting. 132 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,320 I I really like the intro thing here. 133 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,880 I do feel like some of the vibes I wanted. 134 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,400 A little bit more later we'll get to that. 135 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,280 There's a bit of a, you know, I think they're out. 136 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,120 We'll talk about some of the the things I think undercooked I 137 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,800 think is is a good thing for this. 138 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,120 I think this game is really cool. 139 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,440 It's got good bones, but I think some of the writing would have 140 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,800 been enhanced with an editor. I think the layout could have 141 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,720 been enhanced a little bit. There's some weird like even on 142 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,120 this first page like processor, Mothership has dropped down a 143 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,960 line when it could. When it's like, yeah, up a line, 144 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,560 you know what I mean? Like it's it's skip down one 145 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,480 things like that. You said this? 146 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,679 Pre you said this pre stream. But as we get into this I kind 147 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,120 of am thinking about this as well like this. 148 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,720 I think A2 east of this would bang you know like I'm really 149 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,480 interested in like playing as a as a as a fucking robot in a 150 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,800 fantasy setting. Like, I think that that sounds 151 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,120 potentially hysterical and like the high jinks that you and your 152 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,840 crew could get into by just not being humans in the world of 153 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,440 only humans and classic fantasy, yeah. 154 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:01,840 Yeah, yeah, it's definitely, yeah, it's definitely 155 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,040 interesting. Like I said, I really like the 156 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,280 bones. I really like what they're going 157 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,920 for. But I do feel like, you know as 158 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:14,240 we get into this, like I said the layout could be, could be, 159 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,720 could be a little bit. I think everything could just be 160 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,560 a little bit better and I think having maybe like an editor, a 161 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:22,040 dev editor and a two year this, it would it would really go off. 162 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,760 But for example, like the How to Play section is the next part of 163 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,920 like the first page of this, and it's like the core rules of the 164 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:36,360 game in like the bottom half of an intro with like no, there's 165 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,240 no bullet points, there's no. Dash, there's some. 166 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,160 Separation. It's just like this kind of 167 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:49,120 giant BLOB of of text here without like really highlighting 168 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,400 anything specific, without spacing it out at all like it 169 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,080 just since this is basically the the game. 170 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,240 I would have made this if you wanted it all like this. 171 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,760 Give yourself a whole page you know for this instead of just 172 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,240 doing, instead of like sticking it on the bottom half of this 173 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,160 page with like no delianations, with space like I said spacing 174 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,160 bullet points, separations for different parts like anything. 175 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,680 But yeah most of the core rules are right here on the bottom 176 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:18,800 half of this page so we'll go through this a bunch and and 177 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,280 skip around the other parts. So make a concrete super simple. 178 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,280 You need a bunch of friends and it. 179 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:29,200 So it says some 6 sided dice. You will learn just how many 180 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,680 some is in just a bit you know the character sheet blah blah 181 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:34,520 blah. So and make a concrete you. 182 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,760 When you attempt an action or task, you roll a number of D 183 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,600 sixes. This is another. 184 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,440 I don't know if you know it. This is called a role check. 185 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,840 That is one part. I was like, Oh my God, that's 186 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,480 please don't do that. That's That's two words that 187 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,880 mean the same thing together, and it's extremely confusing. 188 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,960 Later, like it's just unnecessary. 189 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,920 No, I need you to roll your roll. 190 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,200 Check right now, buddy. It's just, it's so, my gosh, 191 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,720 unnecessary. Please just pick one. 192 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,680 Like it like it's like calling it a test roll check. 193 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:16,080 You know what I mean? Like there's just like you don't 194 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,320 need to. Like it's just call it A roll or 195 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,000 call it a check. You don't need roll check. 196 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,280 It's unnecessary. If you roll a one or two or 197 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,040 three, you fail. If you roll a four or five or 198 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,440 six, you pass. If the Game master decides you 199 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,000 scored enough successes, you succeed. 200 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,640 That's a core mechanic. It's it's like a lot of dice 201 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:37,520 pool systems out there, but without the kind of like 1-2 202 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,840 fail, you know? Yeah, 3-4 succeed with 203 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,680 consequence. 5-6 success kind of. 204 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:47,880 There's no mixed success in this dice pool system like Lumen or 205 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:49,800 or any of those other games like that. 206 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:54,120 It's just it's a pass fail system and you have to have a 207 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,960 number of successes which is 4-5 or six in order to pass. 208 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,840 So if the DM says that that takes 3 successes, you roll dice 209 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,480 and you hope to get above a A4 or above three times and you 210 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,680 succeed, that's it. Otherwise you fail I That's the 211 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:12,760 game. I like dice pools and I like D6 212 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,280 dice pools and I'm totally OK with it being pass, pass, fail 213 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:20,920 and not necessarily like a partial failure or partial 214 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,480 success mechanic. So I like that part. 215 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,440 Yeah, that's fine. I mean, the other thing that you 216 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:33,760 could always do too is have like a level of quote UN quote mixed 217 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,400 success just within the fiction. Like if you needed four and you 218 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,640 only got 3, you could always tell the player like you like 219 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:40,680 you kind of, you know what I mean. 220 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:42,720 Just like into the narrative, you know you didn't fail 221 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,360 miserably so you could always you could always add that in, 222 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,320 which I encourage everyone to do in any system that doesn't have 223 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,680 mixed success built in. Like you know close is close. 224 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:57,560 You know the number of dice you have to roll in A roll check is 225 00:12:57,560 --> 00:13:00,720 often equal to the number of one of your characteristics. 226 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,000 Each character has three characteristics, Strength, 227 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,480 Decks, and Widths. Each task will require a 228 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,400 different characteristic. For example, smashing the door 229 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,080 will require a Strength roll check. 230 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:19,000 Making Moving Stealthy moving stealthily, that's not so. 231 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,480 That, again, that's not a word in a surveilled area will 232 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,080 require a Dexterity roll check. Convincing a city guard of your 233 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,200 innocence will require a Wits Roll check. 234 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,800 This is almost all you need to know to play Mecca Concrete. 235 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,800 Wait no. First you need a character to 236 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,360 play Turn the page and let's make one. 237 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,920 There's a lot of exclamation points in this. 238 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,600 I don't mind any of this. I just think that the roll check 239 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:46,560 thing please pick one and. Again, I yeah, that takes away a 240 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:48,800 lot of the I'm like, I like the excitement. 241 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,560 I like the writer voice like, but yeah roll check. 242 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:54,560 That's kind of a strength check not working for me. 243 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,440 A dectoral check. Like it's just it's it's it's 244 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,800 unnecessary to have two things that both mean the same thing. 245 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,680 But also again, like this is the page where that has the core 246 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:08,080 mechanics of the entire game on it. 247 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,520 I wouldn't really like it laid out in a way that just makes a 248 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,560 little bit more sense. And it wasn't just like a spot, 249 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,160 because the other thing too is like, honestly, I know there's a 250 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,520 big bar that says how to play with the red thing, but it's not 251 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,360 hard to miss when you go like, what is a meta, concrete if you 252 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,200 if you just quick flip to the next page, you're going to be 253 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,560 completely fucking lost. Oh, I did the first time I went 254 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,080 through this. But when you and I first we 255 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,080 talked about like 2 days ago or something where you like, have 256 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,480 you read it? And I've like, I've skimmed it 257 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,320 and you start talking about the resolution mechanic. 258 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,600 I was like, oh, I totally missed that part. 259 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,560 Like it's there. But you know, when you're 260 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,400 skimming through, it would be nice to see it laid out. 261 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,480 And there's not a lot of rules. It's incredibly lightweight, but 262 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,360 I feel like at this point there's enough examples of 263 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,640 scenes that have like lightweight frameworks that are 264 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,800 very clean and some dude just made in their spare time. 265 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,880 You know, yeah, yeah. It's just again, like a little 266 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,680 bit of like a re layout would be really nice on this. 267 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,200 Yeah, like they said, that's it. And then you go to character 268 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:11,520 creation, you get there's three different frames, right? 269 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,360 So the other thing too that's that is interesting about this 270 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,040 is like there's a lot, there's just a lot of words for things. 271 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,160 So it's mecha, not robot. And your mecha has a frame, so 272 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,280 you have a mecha frame for your robot, but all of those words 273 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,520 are used throughout the the thing too. 274 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,520 But regardless, each mecha has a different mecha frame. 275 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,440 This will determine your size, armor, hit points, speed, ammo, 276 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,080 and grant you a characteristic bonus. 277 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,320 There's three types of frames. They're all. 278 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,360 So there is the Hulk, which is the big boy. 279 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,080 There's the Agile, which is a speedy boy, and there's a 280 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,920 smarty, which is the smart one, right? 281 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,640 But they're all kind of balanced a little bit across the 282 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,360 attributes. So like for example, the Hulk is 283 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,400 large with an armor four. It's got an HP of one D 6 + 4 284 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,920 speed of 6 feet per turn. We'll get to the feet thing 285 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,360 because the movement makes zero sense. 286 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,440 Ammo capacity is 3 D 6 + 3 per rest, and then the 287 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,440 characteristic bonus is plus one of strength, just like the Agile 288 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,720 1 gets a plus one of X, just like the Smarty gets a plus one 289 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,520 of width. I like that it's neat. 290 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,800 Agile seems like the kind of all around 1. 291 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,360 You get 9 feet per turn, the armor is 3. 292 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:29,080 You get one D 6 + 2 per level HP2 D 6 + 2 per rest ammo 293 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,240 capacity. And then Smarty is only two HP 294 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:40,400 1D6 plus one per level HP, but you get 46 + 3 per rest ammo 295 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,200 capacity. So it's small. 296 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,920 It's definitely a glass cannon, but it has more ammo than all 297 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,040 the rest of a much cracked me up. 298 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,520 I was like, I really, I really like that. 299 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,000 That really gets me that the smallest littlest guy is the 300 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 most. So it kind of balances it out 301 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,320 and like that The for example, ammo capacity. 302 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,120 Hulk has three. Agile has two D 6 + 2. 303 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,119 Smarty has 46 + 3. You know one is 1 E 6 + 4, one 304 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,520 is 1 E 6 + 2, one is 1 E 6 + 1 HP. 305 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,839 So I feel like they all balance each other out really well, like 306 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:12,200 you could play with different styles. 307 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,599 The the characteristic bonus doesn't really seem like it adds 308 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,240 a whole lot when we get to the next section. 309 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,480 Yeah, I'm, I'm sorry I'm so zoned in the movement because 310 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,920 I'm remembering that movement and this is very interesting. 311 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:28,359 Yeah, it makes literally zero sense, and we'll get to it in a 312 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:29,320 second. But for. 313 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,760 I mean, you can, you can kind of understand why anyone listening 314 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,000 that's played a game before 1 can move six feet, one can move 315 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,680 nine feet, and one can move seven feet. 316 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,640 What grid are you playing on? Yeah, and hey. 317 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,120 Playing on a grid. Wait. 318 00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:43,720 Wait till you get to combat, you know? 319 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,800 Yeah, how close you have to be to hit somebody? 320 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:50,440 Yeah, we'll get there. So this is so setting scores. 321 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,200 This is the next part of why. Like having a plus one in it to 322 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,480 strength for a Hulk really doesn't do anything because here 323 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,920 you set your scores right after choosing A-frame and registering 324 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,600 it's diagnostics on your character sheet. 325 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:08,040 So the other thing is like at no point on the previous page does 326 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,720 it mention the word diagnostics. Like it doesn't say like you're 327 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,920 setting your diagnostics or anything like that. 328 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,000 It says setting scores. Now, right here. 329 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,640 Register diagnostics, just talk about diagnostics on the 330 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,320 previous page and you're so we're I, I, I enjoy this game. 331 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,960 I know we're kind of being critical, but it's because we 332 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,760 like it and we're just like, you know, being constructive. 333 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:32,560 But so after choosing A-frame and registering diagnostics on a 334 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,760 character sheet, you will need to set your characteristics. 335 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,120 You will have to distribute 7 points in your characteristics 336 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,400 across strength decks and wit. My other problem throughout the 337 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,720 entire book too, with the layout is they do this a lot. 338 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,480 Like at the top of setting scores, where they'll have two 339 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,960 separate points of, Like like here's the thing, and then 340 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,120 here's the next thing I want to talk about, But there's no 341 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:59,600 indentation, there's no dashes. There's not no break you you 342 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,920 mean between characteristics and you the next word like lined 343 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,840 out, so like between like. Yeah, when we get to the lower 344 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,160 in his paragraphs, it'll literally be like 2 lines. 345 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,360 And then there's the next idea, and instead of having like a 346 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:15,880 paragraph indent or any separation, it just starts 347 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,480 another 1. So it's almost like there's no 348 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,760 break, but suddenly there's a like an empty line. 349 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,960 It's just it's just a a a thing that you could tweak with if you 350 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,840 want to do bull points, if you want to do indent, I mean 351 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:30,280 anything to separate it a little bit, but you get 7 points across 352 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:35,280 straight decks and wits, right? There's no minimum, there's. 353 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:41,960 No maximum, yeah. And yeah, and then so then you 354 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,320 add the frame characteristics bonus, which is +1, but you're 355 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,680 already getting 7 points. Like like the thing that I think 356 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,320 would make a Hulk different than a smarty, you know, amok passing 357 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,680 and stuff like that. But like if it's supposed to be 358 00:19:54,680 --> 00:20:00,720 stronger, I feel like it would be better to put not 7 359 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:06,840 mysterious points out there. Yeah, but like on like an 360 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,600 overabundance of points more in character creation. 361 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,720 So like, let me finish this. So. 362 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,760 It's like, only yes, eventually. That's the only thing. 363 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,960 Yeah so the example is you could give two to strength 4 to decks 364 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,800 and one to width and if you pick the agile frame you would have 365 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,960 two to strength 5 the decks and one to width. 366 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,280 The difference between those two is so slim it's insane because 367 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,520 rolling 4D6 and 5D6 at that point, especially when you roll 368 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,680 like another 5D6 for the flamer weapon like that, doesn't make 369 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,760 the the agile feel agile now like having a one point makes. 370 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,040 A very incredibly small statistical difference when 371 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,560 rolling dice pools. Like, yeah, adding that one when 372 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,600 you're already rolling, Yeah, potentially you're rolling 10 373 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,720 all together. So the one is like OK. 374 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,600 So I mean, realistically, a couple ways we could talk about 375 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,000 balancing this already early is 1 seven points off the rip to 376 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,040 start the game Seems insane to me versus maybe like. 30 more 377 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,200 insane is that there is no minimum, so you could just put I 378 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,040 mean right now. I mean, your character would 379 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,200 kind of suck, but you could put a zero in widths and one in 380 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,800 strength and then six index. And then if you're rolling a 381 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,520 weapon, a dex weapon that takes is like a + 5, which we'll get 382 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,800 to weapons, but they have a number of dice that you roll 383 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,560 right there that's 11. Or if you dump everything, maybe 384 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,040 you're rolling 12 dice like out of the gate. 385 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,200 Off the rip 12 dice and. Which is just a lot of dice to 386 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,120 roll. Well, the crazy thing is, 387 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,880 there's no, I mean, party balance doesn't have to be a 388 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,280 thing, right? But like. 389 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,480 Totally. You're also, you still want to 390 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,120 keep like a somewhat of an eye on like early mission stuff if 391 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:50,920 you have one, if you have two characters that are like 392 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,160 balanced across and one character that stacked like 393 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,640 freaking 12 dice into like 1 stat, they're and especially if 394 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,720 you put it into something that's going to be like their melee, 395 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:01,800 they're never going to miss ever. 396 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:04,040 Yeah, it's going to wipe everything all the time. 397 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,760 That's The thing is like, yeah, you're not going to have combat 398 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,840 like that. It's just I don't agree and like 399 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:16,840 like balance, like in counterbalance in like, I have 400 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,720 to make sure that like, the players like almost win in like 401 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,040 the five E like as long as they have fun, like it's fine, I can 402 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,680 fudge my roles and I'll balance it like blah blah. 403 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,600 I mean, but balance within the party in order to like if if 404 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,920 there was one dude in my party that was just like, all right, I 405 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,320 got it and hit every fucking time to the point where I didn't 406 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,080 get to do anything that wouldn't be fun. 407 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,800 You know what I mean? That's kind of balance that I 408 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,680 would I'm talking. About I take I see your point 409 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,520 and I but I don't even take issue with that. 410 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,600 If I because I've run some weird tables in the past year or so 411 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,120 that been a lot of fun and they've really gone very non 412 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,520 traditional shit. But if I had a party like one of 413 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,680 the tables that I run and they're a bunch of little freaks 414 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,400 and they were like, yeah, this one guy's going to put 415 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,600 everything in strength and he's going to be the bulldozer and 416 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,720 that's what he's going to do. Like I take no issue with that. 417 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,840 My issue is it's too many 12 dice is too many dice. 418 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,320 You know, like the number of dice that you're rolling. 419 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,520 Like I have a dice pull system. Like, I love dice pull systems, 420 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,000 but like a big critique of a lot of them. 421 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,960 Like if you like including Shadow and stuff, it's like you 422 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,560 just end up rolling like 12 or 15 dice. 423 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,760 You're just like got so many. And for this one, we're going to 424 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,200 get to combat, but you roll those dice to do a thing to 425 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,440 attack, but then you roll other dice to do damage as well. 426 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,040 And just a lot. Well, and that's just starting 427 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,600 that even if you put one, if you're if you're agile and you 428 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,040 even put one in width to get one dice to roll and one in 429 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,080 strength, that means you literally start with six dice 430 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,520 index, yeah. As like right off the bat to 431 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,760 your earlier point, like maybe they start with one and 432 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,960 everything. They get two points to assign 433 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,920 and they get two or three points from their character class. 434 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,160 You know that makes it feel like those character class is a lot 435 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,200 more meaningful. I mean now I think you like you 436 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,120 would build like the Smarty in a certain way because it has so 437 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,920 few hit points, like you kind of are going to build it in a 438 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,280 certain way. So yeah, I do think there could 439 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,880 be a better experience for like the difference in the frames, 440 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,240 not character classes frames. Yeah, I mean, even if you even, 441 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,840 let's let's just say for the sake of argument to keep also 442 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,240 seven such a random fucking number. 443 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,240 So I assume it's just like 8 total because you get a thing. 444 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,720 Why do you need eight points to start? 445 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,080 I don't know. I don't have the I was running 446 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,680 dice pool math for a while on something and I can't remember 447 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,120 what it was, but it wasn't any dice. 448 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,480 Well my thing is like if you even want to start with like 8 449 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:49,080 like that, just have smarty start with like 3 or 4. 450 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,560 Like give each one like a + 3 or 4 and then allow them to just 451 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:58,040 assign another three or four vice versa like to the other 452 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,560 stats. So at most they could be 453 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,920 equivalent another stat to their best stat. 454 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,840 It's just like what's the point of giving them a bonus if at the 455 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,520 end of the day the bonus doesn't really matter. 456 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,320 So you could you could pick Smarty because of the ammo 457 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,480 capacity and just throw everything you want into like 458 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,680 strength or or or whatever like it's just. 459 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,560 I mean of course you can but like again like you can do 460 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,200 whatever you want. It's a game but like it's just 461 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,960 to me it's just it's just it's kind of bad math like to not 462 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,360 it's it's kind of pointless to give a bonus when the bonus 463 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,840 doesn't mean anything, you know? Yeah, absolutely. 464 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,680 Anyway, we'll start, we'll stop picking on that part for like 2 465 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,960 seconds. So we'll get into the other part 466 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,800 which we'll pick on tomorrow. So pick your arms and 467 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,520 accessories, you get some, you get arms and accessories, we'll 468 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,120 go over them in a minute and you have a total of 100 silver to 469 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:44,760 spend. I do like the. 470 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,440 I do like the silver by at the beginning. 471 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,560 It's so fucking funny that this is a it's a silver based game. 472 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,440 Like genuinely the part about this where you're like a fucking 473 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,960 robot in a fantasy setting and like you're using the silver 474 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,720 economy and you're using silver to level up hysterical, So much 475 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,480 fun. I would definitely love to do 476 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,120 that. And I could see that being a fun 477 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,400 thing to do. Maybe even for not a campaign, 478 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,320 but like a regular game. Like, yeah, you guys are just 479 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,800 robots and like having high jinks and classic fantasy. 480 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,080 I love that. Well, even the reason that they 481 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,240 need the silver too, like basically. 482 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,520 And even when it gets to the economics and stuff at the end, 483 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,680 which I I really enjoy, like a lot of like the thought they put 484 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,920 into it. Again, it's just some of the 485 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:31,680 writing is so arms. You get some, you get 2, right? 486 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,320 You get 2 arms. It's a good number of arms to 487 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,480 have. Almost everyone has two arms. 488 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,400 Yep, And in this game you get your very Your robots are very 489 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,200 your meccas are are bipedal humanoid things, you know. 490 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,480 So each Mecca has a weapon arm and a prehensile arm. 491 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,920 Alternatively, a Mecca can have two printsile arms and a weapon 492 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,880 arm. However, Mecca can never have 493 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,960 two weapon arms. Trust the processor, it is 494 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,160 better this way. I like that. 495 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,680 I love the idea of like because I fucking said so. 496 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,280 And here's a little bit of a of a of an in game lore reason. 497 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:12,080 I love that. So as it said, you can have two 498 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,920 pre inside alarms. You can have a weapon arm and a 499 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,440 pre inside alarm. You can have two weapon arms. 500 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,200 So you can start the game with 123456. 501 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:22,840 There's seven different weapon arms, Blaster Wire, Blastery 502 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,160 Crusher, flamer, Gatling, mega knide, 0 blade, 0 phaser. 503 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,480 There's no explanation of what. They did. 504 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,800 Yeah, there's a couple pictures. The Trustee Mega Knide. 505 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,240 I love that it's called that because it looks like the Mega 506 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,720 Man Fist, which. I love. 507 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,240 The almighty Crusher is a is a is a big fist, and I dig that. 508 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:48,600 So let's get into let's get into more dice weapon arms. 509 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040 These are fierce weaponized arms. 510 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:54,120 All weapons consume 1 ammo to perform an attack. 511 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,440 So you're literally going to get to a point because of ammo 512 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,760 capacity where you run out of being able to to use your weapon 513 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,400 arms. But for example let's let's 514 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,240 let's do a strength one first. So there's the crushery, right 515 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,240 the crusher. It's a melee weapon, so roll to 516 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,240 hit. It says 2 plus strength. 517 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,680 When I first read that, I was like, what's the two? 518 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,120 I don't understand like I had to go back and read I. 519 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,080 Didn't say two dice I. Mean Eventually I. 520 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,160 Think it does. Oh yeah, it gets later on in 521 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,160 combat. It does say that. 522 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,080 Yes, it should absolutely preface. 523 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,520 It's one of those things we've talked about often about 524 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,400 mentioning a thing before, you know, so the people have, like, 525 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,720 already know what's going on. Yeah, well, I mean, because it's 526 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,120 like, this is one of those things where it feels like the 527 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,000 the creator knew what it was and forgot that the players don't. 528 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,800 So I'm just like, what it What the fuck? 529 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,840 What what? What two am I doing? 530 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,560 And it's a role to hit. But it's also like, what about 531 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,480 the role check, a role check to hit? 532 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,120 Like, where did the role check go? 533 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,560 But now it's just role, you know what I mean? 534 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,120 That's one of those things. So it's two plus strength, 535 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,120 right? So if you have two strength 536 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,680 right, you get to roll now two plus your two strengths. 537 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,200 So that's 4D sixes to try to hit a thing. 538 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,240 Don't know what to hit yet, that's not explained till later. 539 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,640 And then damage is another 2D6 after that. 540 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,000 So if you wanted to, you could have dice of different colors 541 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,360 and roll it all on one giant thing. 542 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,920 But who the fuck is going to have 20? 543 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,760 I mean, we talked about you start with like potentially six 544 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,600 dice in one thing. This is a fun one. 545 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,480 I. Was gonna say I so because I 546 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,200 obviously run like a dice pool thing. 547 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,320 Like I have a big thing of dice. But yeah, like you kind of need 548 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:53,640 that to run this in in like personally 6 dice that is on the 549 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,760 like not high high end, but getting up to the high end of 550 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,080 how many dice I would ever want to roll at any point in time for 551 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,760 one thing. And then we are like talking 552 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,640 about a stat of two, a weapon of two and a damage of two. 553 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,840 Like there. It's fairly low for this, like 554 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,160 where you can go in the system. Yeah, well I mean the other 555 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:21,800 thing too is, I mean if you're rolling like 10 D sixes, slowing 556 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,560 down to have to like first of all contain 10D sixes. 557 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,320 You shouldn't have 10 D. Sixes into a little board. 558 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,680 Like how many dives are going to be flying all over the place? 559 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,560 Plus also even just stopping to count 10D6 to just be like, all 560 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,680 right, that's a success. Fail success, success, fail 561 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,920 success. Every time you roll anything, 562 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,560 you're like literally counting 10/15/20 different dice to do 563 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,400 all your things. It's just too much dice. 564 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,320 But that's not Even so. That was two is the lowest it 565 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,040 goes. So let's talk about the Flamer, 566 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,600 the ranged weapon. Five plus decks, and with our 567 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:01,240 character we kind of made before with six decks. 568 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:06,280 That means if you buy the flamer for 80 silver to roll to hit, 569 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:15,080 you are at first level right off the bat, rolling 11 D sixes plus 570 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,040 2D6 for damage. Yeah, you're rolling 13 dice on 571 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,880 one turn. It's just a lot. 572 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,920 It's just too much. Again, you can balance this 573 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,160 whole thing down by just dropping all of this. 574 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,400 Absolutely it'd be it'd be so easy to trim this down and and 575 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,960 like I mean a lot of it too is the like to hit on the enemies 576 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,600 like they're they get fairly high and like you just cut them 577 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,600 you know just cut all of it down lower make all the. 578 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,560 Numbers lower, you know? Instead of starting with eight 579 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,880 points, let's just start with four and cut all of the shit in 580 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,760 half. Small numbers better big 581 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,280 numbers, you know. What you could easily drop roll 582 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,960 to hit for the the crusher, instead of 1 plus strength or 583 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,520 two plus strength, just do one plus strength. 584 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,200 Drop the gatling from 4 + X to 2 + X. 585 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,560 Just cut all the numbers in half and let's nice roughly the same 586 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,680 numbers anyway. So enough beating up on those 587 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,600 weapon arms. They're cool. 588 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,320 They have a name, a type which is just range to melee which is 589 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,360 not explained yet. Rolls to hit damage which is 590 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,200 between 2 and 46. Cost which is between 40 and 80 591 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,760 silver. Those are weapons. 592 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,120 Then you get to but but they're cool. 593 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,360 That's the thing. The whole thing is this is. 594 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,520 Yeah, they're pretty cool. So I'm like, I mean in not to 595 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,400 keep harping on like my imagination being like, Oh yeah, 596 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,360 the fantasy world I'm walking through with like the robot with 597 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:41,040 the fucking what's the Ultima, the the ultimate hand. 598 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,360 Just like slapping through stuff, you know? 599 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,680 Yeah, I mean. That'd be dope, I really. 600 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,720 Yeah, it'd be sick. It would be a lot of fun. 601 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,400 So the prehence alarms are pretty much what you use when 602 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,760 you you run out of ammo, which I love the fact that you run out 603 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,720 of ammo and then with your prehence I alarm. 604 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,640 It says they can also be used to wield weapons. 605 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,040 Yes even ones made by humans. I love that. 606 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,640 So yeah you get a bunch here. Claw Fire per Fan 5. 607 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,640 Fingered Hand, Long Fingered hand 7. 608 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,560 Fingered Hand, Spiked hand, Tool Hand. 609 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,720 Ultima Hand. I there's no descriptions of any 610 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,760 of these and I love that. I really enjoy that part, that 611 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,200 it's so the bottom here it says the edgy 0 blade or the shocking 612 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,280 Ultima hand. Like it doesn't say that 613 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,360 anywhere. Make this shit up. 614 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,000 That's cool. Like I love that part of like 615 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:35,600 not putting that much into it. That's a good, you know, not 616 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,760 having it in I. Mean it kind of goes back to you 617 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,960 know we've talked a lot recently and especially I think we've 618 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,480 been playing greenhorns as well about items like like they have 619 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,720 no description like you just you guys decide right now what does 620 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,400 this item do and that's what it does and it's kind of like this 621 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,360 is not exactly that but it kind of figures like what what is 622 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,480 your ultimate hand you know how much damage it does but like is 623 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,120 it like the shocking one because mine's not mine is literally 624 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,760 like the it's the rocket backhand you know so. 625 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,000 Yeah, yeah, I I I dig that. I mean, it's exactly like you 626 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:08,719 said. Exactly that. 627 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,760 Greenhorns. It's great. 628 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,800 I mean, what the fuck does the seven fingered Hand do? 629 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:12,960 I mean, I would tell. You. 630 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,880 But I had seven fingers. I know that. 631 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,600 But, but these are all the roll the hits are these are all 632 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,520 strength. Which is interesting that 633 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,320 there's not a single decks one I, I I really wish there was 634 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,280 like a lip one or something. You know what I mean Like. 635 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,239 Yeah, totally. You know, ninja throwing star 636 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,960 one, Yeah. But The thing is like, so it 637 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:40,239 says you wield human weapons like like where does the like 638 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,600 where does the damage and stuff come on when you're wielding 639 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,080 human weapons? Like we need to like we'll have 640 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,000 to because like if I have the the the five finger hand one 641 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,440 plus strength 1D6, that's for the punch because there's each 642 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,199 prehensile arm can also be used to throw a punch attack which I 643 00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:59,560 assume is this base right here like if I'm wielding like an 644 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,200 axe. An axe, yeah. 645 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:02,840 Maybe. Maybe we'll get to it, but I 646 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,200 don't remember there being, like a whole lot. 647 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,000 I don't remember there being one either. 648 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,120 And like, you know, for me personally, I mean I guess it's 649 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,640 who your game is for. Cause for me personally, I'm 650 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,240 fine to like I would figure it out right. 651 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,480 You know, I think even in this case you should be like there 652 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,160 should be a blurb in here that's just like, hey, using the human 653 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,520 weapon. Here's some examples, but like 654 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,240 or no examples in like, talk to your party and decide what would 655 00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:29,160 make the most sense for what that weapon would do in terms of 656 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,680 damage, you know? I mean easiest Peasiest one 657 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,200 handed 1D62 handed 2D6, totally 1D6 done. 658 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,960 But that's not in here. Next, we're getting into 659 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,720 accessories. This is where the versatility 660 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,440 shines. So you can have up to 5 661 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,600 accessories. So again, you only start with 662 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,160 100 silver. So it's not like you can make 663 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,760 the greatest thing ever to start. 664 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,920 But you could easily spend 80 silver on the five plus Dex 665 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,320 Flamer, 10 silver on the five fingered hand and still have 666 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:09,040 enough to get a headlight, you know, Or yeah, pretty much just 667 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,440 a headlight. But you'd be insane. 668 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,200 But so anyway, Accessories. You got antenna, ballistic 669 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,240 shield. Better hydraulics, coated metal 670 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,880 coaxial cables, headlight, laser pointer, metal Finder, 671 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,440 propulsor, shock absorber, sidearm which is 1/3 arm. 672 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,520 That was my nickname in high school. 673 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:31,280 Smokescreen salvo voice modulator, but just like looking 674 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,120 at one of them. So ballistic shield for example. 675 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,080 Add this shield to a prehensile arm. 676 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,360 You can use this tower shield to block incoming attacks. 677 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,480 You gain +2 armor God. It took me forever to figure out 678 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,240 where the fuck armor was. Oh. 679 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,080 Yeah. Hold on, let me go back. 680 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,800 Oh, it's it's not back. That's the. 681 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,320 That's the thing. Well, I mean, it does tell you, 682 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,880 you know on each character class what your armor is. 683 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,680 Yeah, but how do you? What is But But what? 684 00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,880 Yeah, you're right. You're right. 685 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,000 It doesn't say it. That's so. 686 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,360 Is it? Yeah. 687 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,360 So yeah. So they do different things. 688 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,800 So laser pointer, yeah, is attached to one of your weapons 689 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,080 and synced with internal parts add plus one more die to the 690 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,440 dice pool of the roll to hit of one of your weapons. 691 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,520 I like that more dice though. You start with the laser pointer 692 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,560 that's another dice. So. 693 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,880 But a lot of them do propulsor up to three plus decks feet high 694 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,560 like you know a lot of stuff. The shock absorbers voice 695 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,680 modulators, they're all really cool. 696 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,320 That's things. They're all really, really. 697 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,760 Cool. I like the build Your Mecca bits 698 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,000 like it cracks me up. It's really enjoyable. 699 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,240 There's now there's a whole equipment section too. 700 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:43,880 So after you pick your arms and accessories, there's other 701 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,120 stuff. Do you do start with free 702 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,840 equipment? So you start with basically a a 703 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,480 dungeoneer's pack. You get 10 flats of oil, 5 feet 704 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,400 of rope, 5 feet of rope is a crazy. 705 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,800 That's nothing. All of the all of the like the 706 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,800 feet in here it there has to be some conversion issue or 707 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,920 something because like once again we're going to get to 708 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,080 attacking, but I'm going to say it now you have to be 1 foot 709 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:10,000 from your attacker 1. Foot one feet, Yeah. 710 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,160 And what does a 5 foot rope do for you? 711 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,400 With five feet of rope you could barely tie that around your own 712 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,440 waist. You know what I mean? 713 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,800 Like it's crazy. A repairing wrench, a backpack, 714 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,880 2 flasks of anti rust and a torch lighter. 715 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,400 And this is like the first time where anything has been broken 716 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,960 up with like dashes and stuff. But even then, one of the the 717 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,400 flash of anti rust is like pushed in by one. 718 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:39,280 But then there's extra equipment which is just like basic basic 719 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,920 shit. Bags of orbs, bottles of ink, 720 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,760 human clothes. That's fine, it's fine. 721 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,040 I do like that. There's just like randomly, just 722 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,040 like human shit in here. There is human weapons right 723 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,400 here. Oh, perfect. 724 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,800 Good. I'm glad that makes me so good. 725 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,640 I totally messed up the first time I went through it. 726 00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:54,400 Whoops. Yeah, I think I got tomorrow. 727 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,760 I was like OK fine OK, sometimes back weapons run out of ammo. 728 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,920 So yeah. So here's the problem though. 729 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,080 Like right, so you have battle axe, cooking pan, I love that 730 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,240 long sword, short sword, spear. And guess what they did 1D6 and 731 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,280 2D6. Good golf. 732 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,680 That's what I would have done. Already said that. 733 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,080 And even the roll, the hits are two, two or one and they're all 734 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,560 strength or decks, right? Oh well, Spears decks. 735 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,400 Everything else is strength. Everything else is strength, 736 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,840 yeah. But like would you stack this 737 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,440 with the with the pre hintile arm that you use it with or is 738 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,640 that only the punch? Are you asking me as a game 739 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,280 Master what call I would make? Or or either. 740 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,520 Both, like what you think. The IT doesn't. 741 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,080 Say in here, and I think that that might be a mistake. 742 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,440 I think at my table I would call that no, those things do not 743 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,600 stack, because that's all it's. We're already too deep in these 744 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,840 fucking dice, my friend, you know? 745 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,400 But I mean if you look at the, if you look at the stats and the 746 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:55,680 pre hintile arms, they most of them except for the ultimate 747 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,920 hand are like 1-2 or three. And like it's not like with a 748 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,760 claw you can hold a weapon anyway, so they're almost all 749 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,800 one or two. So to think that your weapon 750 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:12,640 would do one or two as well when the weapon arms do 2-3 four, 751 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,640 yeah. Well, the clock and wield a 752 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,600 weapon. I guess. 753 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:18,920 I guess your claw could wield a weapon. 754 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,080 My claw would be. Like, I mean the rules are 755 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,400 stated that Prehensile Arm can wield a weapon, you know? 756 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,760 Right. If I'm just saying like in my 757 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,000 fiction, claw to me is the whole thing is a claw and an 758 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,360 unwieldable. It also has higher strength than 759 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,600 a lot of the other ones, but and a higher damage and some. 760 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,080 But yes, your claw could wield a weapon as well. 761 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,400 But like, yeah, that's interesting that there, I mean 762 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,360 there should be a differentiation that says like 763 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,960 if you're wielding a weapon, you use weapon stats, not pre and 764 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,240 style arm stats. Yeah, but I mean also that 765 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,560 wouldn't make sense too, because like if I'm wielding a battle 766 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,160 axe with a 500 hand versus an ultimate hand, why wouldn't my 767 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,520 ultimate hand hit hard with the battle axe? 768 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,960 So going back to the pre and style arm section, it actually 769 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,000 says each pre and style arm can also be used to throw a punch 770 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,920 attack. So I think the default is 771 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,920 they're actually wielding a weapon, but they can also be 772 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,120 used to throw a punch. I think maybe if the weapon 773 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,600 damage was moved up to the same area and it was reworded and, 774 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,720 you know, edited a little bit, I think it might be more apparent. 775 00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:27,960 But I do think you're meant to wield a weapon in that hand or 776 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,200 just have something in there. But also it throws a punch this 777 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,720 like presentation wise, right? With this table here like and 778 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,480 layout how it is, you automatically assume. 779 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,000 Oh, the the prehensile arm is a weapon. 780 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,080 But it's as it's written it it's talking about using it to hold 781 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,560 things as an or a weapon. See, I but I wouldn't put the go 782 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,760 ahead. I disagree. 783 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,960 I think the the thing right before the table says each 784 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,640 prehensile arm can also be used to throw a punch attack, and my 785 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,560 assumption is this table is the punch attack. 786 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,880 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. 787 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,320 Then we agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 788 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,600 But like, so then so you're saying that this table goes away 789 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,240 as soon as you're wielding weapon and you're just using 790 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:16,680 weapon? Yes. 791 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,440 Yeah, it's not. I I think the layout works 792 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,040 against that. You know, like I think 793 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,080 technically it is. It is written as such to lead 794 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,560 you in that direction, but I don't think the layout does it 795 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,720 any favors. Oh yeah, I would move. 796 00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:33,520 I would move the human weapons right up under that. 797 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,400 Why separate it? Yeah. 798 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:39,160 Anyway, yeah, so adding more cool stuff. 799 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,320 So everything you need. The details again, this is the 800 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,360 whole sections here where there's like lines that are like 801 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,640 not broken apart and stuff like that. 802 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,640 Whatever, there is a motivation table. 803 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,120 I love that this is here. What brought your Mecca here? 804 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,440 Why did it join this mission? Why don't you roll? 805 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,280 Why don't you get out of D6 and we'll we'll do a bunch. 806 00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,240 Of hell, yeah, brother. Well if you bring up AD 6 Roller 807 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:02,560 too we'll we'll we'll do some test rolls later too we'll. 808 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,560 Do a Google's dice roller, which I always love to use because 809 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,040 it's insane. Yeah. 810 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:14,560 OK, I'm rolling D6. Yep, D6 for your motivation. 5. 811 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,000 To retrieve and study human artifacts. 812 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,560 That's cool. That's great. 813 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,360 I I love that you are in love. That the thought with a human 814 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,600 exclamation point question mark. Those are cool. 815 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,920 To avenge of fallen Mac to find gone rogue. 816 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,400 Etcetera. D6D6 trinkets what you get. 817 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,280 I got 6A rusty key. Dope. 818 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,960 Yeah, just. Got a little rusty. 819 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:45,360 Heat A weird fear what you got? I rolled 4 Fear of Rusted 820 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,600 Objects. Makes sense? 821 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,680 Yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, fear of love and what it 822 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,760 did to you. Fear of humans? 823 00:43:54,760 --> 00:44:00,000 And talk really slow. I mean, these are cool. 824 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,160 I love these little tables. There's like such fun little 825 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,360 little flavor bits to them. Yeah, I know that we're we've 826 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,240 been fairly critical so far but like there is definitely 827 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:11,400 something here you know like there's a good sense of humor 828 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,280 there is fun to be had. I just think the the dice 829 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,000 mechanics need to be trimmed up and and yeah thought you need to 830 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,480 have an editor. Oh, no. 831 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,680 Like I said, like I said early on, like we we don't pick games 832 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,440 we don't like. Generally, we've done a couple 833 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,480 we didn't like just just just to do them. 834 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,600 I think it's obvious which ones those are but like I've said we 835 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:33,160 me and Otter talked about this off stream really like really 836 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,520 really like this game and I think A2 we would would hit. 837 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,720 I just think it really needed an editor like a dev and line 838 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,640 editor and it would have and it would have hit off. 839 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:45,760 So now we get into combat when facing enemies, mechanics engage 840 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,800 in combat protocols, which is played in turns divided into two 841 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,720 phases, initiative phase and fight phase. 842 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,880 I I'm I'm lost on why we need both those phases. 843 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,240 Oh cool. So there's the initiative phase. 844 00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:07,840 Players and enemies. Each role at D6, both factions 845 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,160 add their results and then confront the results. 846 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,440 The faction with the highest score begins first in the 847 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:21,120 subsequent fight phase. So that means every player rolls 848 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,480 AD 6, and then all the enemies roll AD 6, and then you add it 849 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:30,600 all up, and then whoever gets the highest number gets to go 850 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,440 first. Mm hmm. 851 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,520 That's again, it's too much fucking rolling. 852 00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:37,520 Like, why? Why are we rolling? 853 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:38,960 Why are? We potentially. 854 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,720 I don't know that I dislike that though that kind of seems fun to 855 00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:42,600 me. You know, like. 856 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,360 I mean, I would only it's only you only do the initiative phase 857 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,440 once, right? Fucking we would only do it 858 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,120 once. My table. 859 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,320 But like at the start a fight, start a fight. 860 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,400 Everyone rolled D6 now I would I am actually kind of OK with that 861 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,560 one. It seems kind of fun to me. 862 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:59,040 No wait, so listen. So fight phase in this phase of 863 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,680 faction that had the highest initiative score fights first 864 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,200 the fight. Each character takes a turn in 865 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,960 which it can move from a distance equal to its total 866 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,720 speed and perform an attack that says The faction with the 867 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:13,960 highest initiative chooses the first character to take a turn, 868 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,880 and then the opposing faction does the same. 869 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,880 When the opposing faction's character has ended its turn, 870 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,760 the faction with the highest initiative chooses another 871 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,080 character to take a turn, and so on and so forth until combat is 872 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,080 over. So my thing is right. 873 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,320 I love this. It reminds me of like Death in 874 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,720 Space where. Like death in space. 875 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:35,960 Yeah. Where you choose who goes next. 876 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,840 I I definitely don't love that. I do, really. 877 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,800 There is a thing going on here and I'm like, OK, I kind of dig 878 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,760 this actually. I think this needs to be edited 879 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,120 and rewarded a little bit, but there's a fun initiative 880 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,840 mechanic that in here, you know. Yes. 881 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,240 Oh, I mean, there's so much rewording across this entire 882 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:57,240 thing that needs to go. The problem is that makes the 883 00:46:57,240 --> 00:47:01,880 initiative phase like, you don't need to have every player roll a 884 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,960 dice, add it all up, have every enemy roll a dice, add it all 885 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,000 up, and then decide. Just have the player just do 886 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,480 like one player. Roll a dice one through 3 887 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,080 enemies go first, four through 6. 888 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,920 Bad guys go first like. I always think it's a good 889 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,560 option. That's my default one but like 890 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,720 honestly like I would kind of like, I mean it really. 891 00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,440 Once again it really depends on what your table's like. 892 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,520 But like the tables I'm I right now I know that they would be 893 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,400 stoked on having an US versus them like roll off at 1st and 894 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,560 then beginning battle. But I just. 895 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,000 I agree it's more dice. And the the problem is with this 896 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,600 game there's always so much dice and I'm speaking from a place of 897 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,920 like I haven't ran this. So it maybe when I am running 898 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,720 this I'm like fuck more dice to roll. 899 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,040 It all feel differently, but I kind of like the idea of it, you 900 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,800 know? Yeah, I I think it's. 901 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:55,200 But it's it's to me, it feels what's the word I'm looking for. 902 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,120 It reminds me of like the troika stack a little bit. 903 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,400 I hate the stack. I think it's in concept. 904 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,680 The first time you do it, it feels really cool. 905 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,120 And then the 10th time you do it, it's fucking obnoxious like 906 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:06,480 it's. A it. 907 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,360 Feels like a. And all of our listeners, I've 908 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,720 I've never liked the stack, even in concepts. 909 00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:13,520 The first time I read it, I'm like I'm not doing that, so. 910 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,640 Yeah, well I mean same like it's still interesting conceptually, 911 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,640 but no, it it sucks. I I just, I don't want to play 912 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,160 that way. But also again like even if you 913 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,600 play the first time, you're like, oh that was kind of neat. 914 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,920 The 10th time you have to, like, Add all that shit up to put it 915 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,000 into a fucking bag is. About very well might be true. 916 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,680 You know what I'm saying with this is it feels what's the word 917 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,720 I'm looking for? It's not kitschy. 918 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,240 It feels like a it feels gimmicky almost, where it's just 919 00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:40,120 like once you do it once or twice, we're like, all right, 920 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,120 let's we've already been rolling 80,000 dice. 921 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,720 Let's all roll. You're fighting 6 bad guys. 922 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,320 So let's let everyone on the table plus Adm roll like 30 more 923 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,520 dice. We can add up just to decide who 924 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,600 goes first because then they pick a bad guy anyway. 925 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,760 Like, it just feels like such an unnecessary action for something 926 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:04,000 that like, makes no difference. Like, you know, but I do like 927 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,480 the fight face. I do like the idea that says the 928 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,000 fact, the fact with the highest initiative chooses the first 929 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,520 character and then the opposing faction does the same. 930 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,040 So like basically like you go, then I go, then you go, then I 931 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,200 go. But we get to pick who gets to 932 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,120 go. I love that. 933 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,840 I think it's really neat. It's just UN unnecessary there's 934 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,920 and even like the other problem with like the calling it a phase 935 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,240 is that like it feels like it's not. 936 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,680 A phase mom. Well, but you, it feel to me, if 937 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,880 there's two phases to combat, like, I feel like you'd be going 938 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,560 in and out. Like initiative isn't like a 939 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,880 phase. Initiative is like the 940 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,640 triggering thing that puts you into fighting. 941 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,160 You know what I mean? Like it's not actually part of 942 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,120 fighting, you know what I mean? It's not. 943 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,880 It's just the. Thing I I don't know the no, I 944 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,440 don't know that I feel the same. Yeah, no, I can. 945 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,520 Yeah. So for example, like if you 946 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,000 have, let's say you broke up people into being like people 947 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,840 like in Malay and people like in range, you would have a range 948 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,080 phase and then a melee phase. They're like things, but 949 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:10,360 initiative is just an out of out of table, an out of game meta 950 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,240 mechanic to determine who goes first in combat. 951 00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:16,680 It's not like. Part of the combat itself. 952 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,640 Exactly, That's what I'm saying is like. 953 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:20,520 I mean, I don't really take issue with that. 954 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,640 I get what you're saying. I don't really take issue with 955 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,080 it though. You know, yeah, I mean, that's 956 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,040 what. I feel differently to you, Ryan. 957 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,840 How dare you? That's right. 958 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,960 Attacking. To perform an attack with the 959 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,400 mainly weapon, the attacker must be within how many feet? 960 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,480 Dude, it's so funny because it's just like you're in kissing 961 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,240 distance. If you're going to hit somebody, 962 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,560 you got to be close enough to lay one on them, bro. 963 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,040 One foot bro like. Then the attacker chooses the 964 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,640 weapon rolls all the D6 specified. 965 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,920 If the roll to hit scores a number of successes higher or 966 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,520 equal then the target's armor value of the attack hit, then 967 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,400 the attacker rolls all the D6 specified in the Weapons Damage 968 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,960 section, the resulting numbers subtracted from the target's HP. 969 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,720 Again, what fucking grid are you like? 970 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,200 Are you there is a conversion issue going on here. 971 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,280 They 100% do not mean one foot like they don't. 972 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,600 I know that they don't like I I at my table would would house 973 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,880 rule this up and fix it But yeah it's that's a pretty hysterical. 974 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,080 I mean, all this is really funny. 975 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,000 It's like you can move, you move six feet. 976 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,400 Yeah, I mean, the only way any of this makes sense at all is if 977 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,040 you're playing on like a standard quote, UN quote, like 978 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,440 D&D grid, you know what I mean? But like, every square is just a 979 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,520 foot, not 5 feet. Right. 980 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,960 Yeah. And maybe that's how they 981 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,040 imagine doing it. I'm just like. 982 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,640 Yeah, like that's the only thing that makes sense because like 983 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,000 say like the one can move nine. So like, it's like 45 feet if 984 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,120 it's five foot squares. Yeah, completely reasonable. 985 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,160 I there? Has to be. 986 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,320 More, it has to be within one square or like one. 987 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,960 Yeah, that's only thing that makes sense because also it's 988 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,800 like 967 distance, like you can add 1 foot to something. 989 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,600 So now you get to go like 6 feet instead of like it's just Yeah, 990 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,680 that's. The only thing it is easily the 991 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,480 funniest part about this like just in my head can of watching 992 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:27,480 these robots. Just like, yeah, yeah, it's 993 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,320 tiny. It's a tiny robot battle game. 994 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:35,000 It just just never says it. Yeah, yeah, they're all range. 995 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,560 To perform an attack of the range weapon, the target must be 996 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,840 visible within 40 feet of the attacker. 997 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:45,000 Again, that makes sense in the context, except that your guy 998 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,120 that can go 9. Like, no, That makes sense, 999 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,720 yeah. Then the attacker chooses the 1000 00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:51,480 weapon, rolls all the D6 blah blah blah. 1001 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,520 If it hits, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. 1002 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,800 Like it's the same thing. Movement. 1003 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,880 They can move a number of feet equal to their speed value. 1004 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,040 Again, there has to be some type of of of of something that's 1005 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,880 off. If the character wishes to move 1006 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,800 even more, it can sacrifice its attack action and perform 1007 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,080 another movement. So you can double move by not 1008 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,160 attacking but free action. You get to do stuff. 1009 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,200 Throwing ammo to a friend, Talking, picking up an object, 1010 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,320 repenting for crimes against meccas. 1011 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,400 I like that. I like that. 1012 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,240 It's like, use a thing. Who cares? 1013 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:23,600 Whatever. I hate when people are like, 1014 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,800 create like, oh, can I pull this thing off my belt into like, the 1015 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,040 action economy? Who gives a shit? 1016 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,480 Fucking things? Yeah. 1017 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,200 Yeah, I feel like that's. It's like, that's so tedious. 1018 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,040 When that is a rule. It's like, oh, you wanna throw, 1019 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,520 you wanna throw ammo to your buddy, That's gonna be an 1020 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,160 action. It's like, just let me fucking 1021 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,880 do the thing, Who cares? So yeah, shout out, shout out 1022 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,440 that. I mean, again, mechanically, 1023 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,640 there's a lot of things that are really dig where there's hands 1024 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,200 off parts that make so much sense and then just the whole 1025 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,280 and then there's just a couple things. 1026 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,400 This is what we were saying before. 1027 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:55,560 It's just like this is one of the games. 1028 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,880 It's almost like frustrating that like I really, really want 1029 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,600 to like it really bad. But there's just some things 1030 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,040 that like I would you know, if in order to run this in a way 1031 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,440 that I would like to run it, I'd have to do so much work and I'd 1032 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:07,800 rather the. Creator would have just I think 1033 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,840 it would be a blast. You know, if they if they 1034 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,120 trimmed it up a little bit and reworded it and like maybe their 1035 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,000 like intention 100% is to have like 14 dice rolling. 1036 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,920 Like that might work for other tables, like that's not me and 1037 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,320 my table, which is why we don't run Shadow Run, but like 1038 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,680 whatever, if that's what you mean. 1039 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,680 But I think there's another a lot of other stuff to clean up 1040 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,000 here too. But there's a cool time here, 1041 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,360 you know. Yeah, I completely agree. 1042 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,360 Die. When you reach 0, you die. 1043 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:35,880 That's it. HP is the thing. 1044 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,120 Love it. Well, what enemies reach 0? 1045 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,280 When a Mecca reaches 0, it is shut down. 1046 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,760 If the Mecca is not damaged beyond repair, as in like 1047 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,480 literally destroying his body in a volcano or whatever, they can 1048 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,360 spend 18 hours performing a reboot and repair and they come 1049 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,720 back to life with maximum HP. So like cool it yeah, it might 1050 00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:56,480 have some damaged memories. Ask the gym. 1051 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,360 I like that Again. Really love a lot of the hands 1052 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,520 off shit regaining HP during a fight. 1053 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,040 You can spend your entire term to consume an oil flask and get 1054 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,840 one D6HP. Love it. 1055 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,960 Like, hilarious. So funny, dude. 1056 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,880 Just like Bender on Futurama chugging oil. 1057 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,240 So good regaining HP outside of a fight which is just resting. 1058 00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:21,360 When mechs find a peaceful spot outside of combat, they can 1059 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,360 enter rest mode. I like rest mode, but I wish it 1060 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,840 would have just been like sleep mode since that's what computers 1061 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,000 use as sleep, but it doesn't. Make a difference? 1062 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,560 Whatever. In this mode, they regain lost 1063 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,600 HP by rolling a number of D6 is equal to the level plus or HP 1064 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,480 modifier. Fine. 1065 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,400 To rest mode they spend at least. 1066 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,480 So it says. To enter rest mode mechas must 1067 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,480 spend at least hours, still in a peaceful environment. 1068 00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:46,560 Doesn't say how many, it just says hours. 1069 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,280 I assume that's a miss like there, there should be a number 1070 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,640 there. While in rest mode, mechas can 1071 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,440 replenish their ammo by rolling ammo dice and adding their ammo 1072 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,480 modifier. So rest works like every other 1073 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,560 fucking dice game. You get to roll some of these 1074 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,800 sixes, maybe add some modifiers. So there is a little a little 1075 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,920 graphic here that says like what can you do in your turn? 1076 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,360 And it's like 3 boxes. There is one movement which is 1077 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,680 maximum of your speed value. There's one attack right? 1078 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,160 Which is one attack with the weapon, arm or weapon and 1079 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,480 preemptile form IF2. Preemptile arms hold two 1080 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,040 weapons. You can form 2 attacks so you 1081 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,640 can just dual wielded bass. Love that and free action 1082 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,320 speaking. Throwing ammo or objects to a 1083 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,760 friendly mecha. Picking up an object. 1084 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,360 I will say there are like what can you do on your turn. 1085 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,200 It says your maximum is your speed value. 1086 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,080 I would have thrown in here to that little blurb where it says 1087 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,120 you can sacrifice an attack to take another movement. 1088 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,920 I would add that into the square here because that is technically 1089 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,120 like you can do 2 movement if you if you sacrifice an attack. 1090 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,680 So if there's going to be a little graphic that says like 1091 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,720 all what you can do, I would put all what you can do in there. 1092 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,600 Another cool half page art where there's like a there's a the 1093 00:56:54,680 --> 00:57:01,280 agile Mecca holding a sword in one hand and what I think is 1094 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,640 probably like I don't know, maybe the flamer. 1095 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,800 Yeah, with like green flame coming out standing over like 1096 00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:09,920 cultists with swords and hoods and stuff. 1097 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,960 Great, great graphic, great piece of art. 1098 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:17,840 Really dig that. Gosh, levelling up. 1099 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,000 I I really dig this. You have to retrieve a hundred 1100 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,640 1000 silver pieces and then the whole group can level up. 1101 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:28,880 To level up, Mecca's have to finish a rest mode, and then one 1102 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:34,240 Mecca will transform into the deliverer, sending a rocket with 1103 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,360 all thousand pieces back to the processor mothership. 1104 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,680 So funny. Like, genuinely, Jose. 1105 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,080 Like such a funny, funny moment in game for you to have. 1106 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,120 Yeah, after sending the silver, the meccas gain one level and 1107 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,400 the following benefits. One HP die you get plus one HP 1108 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:56,160 die, which raises your HP total. You get +2 to a characteristic 1109 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,400 every time you level. So with our guy already at 1110 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,440 rolling 11 dice, you know for our flamer, now we're rolling 13 1111 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,920 or plus one to two different characteristics. 1112 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:11,320 And then you get 100 silver to spend as you please, even on 1113 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,520 other accessories, arms, or upgrades. 1114 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,360 Oh cool. So you send 1000. 1115 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,160 My thought is you send 1000 silver up. 1116 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,880 And I would actually have them like, choose their 'cause 1117 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,160 there's upgrades and stuff they can get, but I would have them 1118 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:31,800 basically like punch in what they want, send the silver up, 1119 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,200 and then the mother ship drops something back down and you open 1120 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,360 it up and you pull out your upgrades and shit. 1121 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,200 And then you got to like a little silver. 1122 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,560 Like that's how exactly I would play it. 1123 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:46,160 And there there is like a fun like yes once again like high 1124 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:50,680 Jinksy like robots and fantasy land game here you know and in 1125 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:55,360 outside of like the crunch in kind of like the more the hands 1126 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,600 off mechanics and like explanations it's like that's 1127 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:02,560 where it really shines. But I I still I still do. 1128 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,400 I think I said this before we started streaming, but it does 1129 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,760 really remind me of that one page Highland paranormal inside 1130 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,680 the mech game where it's like you pick a Dungeons and Dragons 1131 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,280 adventure and your mechs in it. Like that's what I'd do with 1132 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,480 this. I'd be like, you're going to 1133 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,120 play through Lost Minds of Penn Delaware with this system, you 1134 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:17,480 know? Yep, Yep. 1135 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,560 That'd be. That's that'd be so dope. 1136 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,360 I mean there is like an in. The dragon. 1137 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,240 Out of here, right? Oh my God. 1138 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,760 Like using robots to fight like fucking beholders and show it 1139 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:34,360 just so. Upgrades you can get armor, 1140 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:38,520 cement, internal reinforcements, hydraulic tuning compartment, a 1141 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,920 data retrieval telemetry, 0 point rifling like the 1142 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,960 compartment. It cost 65 silver for the 1143 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,160 upgrade and you gain plus five Max ammo capacity. 1144 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,920 But that's the other thing too, is like you get 100 silver to 1145 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,560 spend as you please, is that that's each mech. 1146 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,400 So you're really only sending 700 silver up, basically. 1147 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,280 Yeah, but but I really like that. 1148 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,760 Plus five Max ammo capacity would be huge. 1149 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,040 Internal reinforcements you gain, plus four Max hit points, 1150 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,440 plus one armor is insane. The zero scope rifling gives you 1151 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,920 one more damage dice, so you just start jacking up your ammo 1152 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,240 dice. So I mean, I assume 1000 silver. 1153 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,840 I mean, we'll get to it. There's a whole a whole section 1154 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,040 here about Gming, which we really don't need to go over. 1155 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,280 It basically is this is how to GM? 1156 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,560 You're gonna run? Yeah and shit. 1157 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,840 That's it. There's a little explanation of 1158 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,400 the stat block for bad guys, which and it actually is like 1159 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,800 has dashes and everything in the different numbers, which is 1160 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,480 nice. It is weirdly like easier to go 1161 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,840 through that part with the bolded numbers, but like, it's 1162 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,040 funny how it's like labeled and then there's like, yeah, one 1163 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,560 dash instead of just being another wall, you know? 1164 01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,120 Yeah and yeah, not like the how to play a section. 1165 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:57,360 So basically bad guys get a name like cultist, armor, HP, speed, 1166 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,080 the amount of silver you get when you loot them, the number 1167 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,440 that could be in each encounter. So for example, the cultist 1168 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,400 could be two D6 per encounter, and then it's got an attack. 1169 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,880 But it does say down here, these are the attacked enemies. 1170 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,600 Disposable. Even if the enemy has more than 1171 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,840 one attack, it can always perform only one attack per 1172 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,120 turn. Weird way to word that. 1173 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,160 But again, I think there's a language things out, this entire 1174 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,880 thing that needs to be redone, but pretty straightforward. 1175 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,440 That's it. And then there's a whole Beastie 1176 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,800 right here. Some of the ones, this is where 1177 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,120 we talk about some of the stuff that's interesting. 1178 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:32,040 So alchemist, assassin, bear, because of course you're going 1179 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,720 to run, it's it's the fucking medieval time, but of course 1180 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,800 you're going to run into a bear. I love that cultist brute cult 1181 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,920 leader gargoyle Gargoyle, you know. 1182 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,760 Robots versus gargoyles? Right. 1183 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,040 Night Night. Brute, Nobleman, Shaman. 1184 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:52,840 Soldier, Squire, Thief. Thug, Vanquisher, Salamander. 1185 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:53,960 I love this shit. It's great. 1186 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,120 But here's the thing, right? So we already talked about it 1187 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:02,160 that bad guys like if you want to hit something, you have to 1188 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:11,280 hit a number of successes equal to the armor score, right? 1189 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:16,720 So a lot of them are two 3-4 knight and knight brute are 8 1190 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,960 and 10, right? And it says specifically on 1191 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,440 Knight Brute that you could run into three of these. 1192 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,440 Gosh. Yeah knight, which is 8 armor 1193 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,440 you can't counter. You could you could run into up 1194 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,920 to six of them. So the problem is do me a solid 1195 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:40,640 and roll 20D6. I don't want to just hit 20 D 1196 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,280 6/20. God. 1197 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:56,260 OK, OK, OK, All right. And now how many are 4 plus? 1198 01:02:56,540 --> 01:03:02,800 God, why? I don't want to do all that 1-2. 1199 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,240 Also, I'm using Google's dice roller, which I I believe rolls 1200 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,080 too high sometimes. And I think it did. 1201 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,320 Wow, there are me. I mean, it's almost all 12. 1202 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,040 It's easy to count the ones that don't actually. 1203 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,360 So of all the dice I rolled, only four didn't make. 1204 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:28,000 OK, so I just rolled 20 via 6 and I got 123-4567. 1205 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:34,280 I got 8 so I miss with 20D6I. I would hit the I would hit the 1206 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:38,560 night I would miss the night. Brute rolling 20D sixes. 1207 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:48,120 Yeah, I mean like the, you know, 'cause I I've done some math for 1208 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,560 like dice pool mechanics obviously, and and my range was 1209 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,120 a little bit smaller, 'cause it was 5-6 instead of 4-5 and six. 1210 01:03:55,400 --> 01:04:03,360 But like getting 10 takes quite a bit, like the difficulty 1211 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:08,120 hitting like 8 with a dice pool of like 12 was essentially 1212 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,480 impossible, you know? But once again, that that 1213 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,000 window's a little bit more narrow and what I was doing math 1214 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,200 for. But yeah, it is. 1215 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,240 Well, it's just crazy. So I just rolled another 20 D 1216 01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:30,640 sixes and I got I got 12345678, I got 10 exactly. 1217 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,360 So that's what I'm saying is like. 1218 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,640 Again I got 7. That's what I'm saying. 1219 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,680 So in order to fight one of these guys, right, we're rolling 1220 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,520 20 the sixes, which is not out of the realm of possibility. 1221 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,760 Like if you're rolling the flamer right and you started 1222 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:53,200 with six, you start with six index right. 1223 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:59,760 That means by level 8/10/12, by level four or five you're 1224 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,360 rolling 20 dice. And that's that's if you didn't 1225 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,000 add a bunch of upgrades every time you leveled up. 1226 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,120 So you could be you could be rolling by like level four or 1227 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,040 five you could be rolling like 25 dice. 1228 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:17,200 But my point is if you're fighting this night brute, it's 1229 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,440 how many do you actually need to fight it. 1230 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,800 And I'm saying we're missing with 20D sixes. 1231 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,080 I mean the other thing like it just it kind of goes back to the 1232 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:29,800 issue, The dice pools in this are too big and you really lose 1233 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,960 like a grasp of the like probability of hitting when you 1234 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,280 get in these bigger and bigger because like dice the more you 1235 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,320 add to a pool, like genuinely the less meaningful like it 1236 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,880 becomes. Like it's such a slight increase 1237 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:47,240 in like when you're just increasing a flat number like 5 1238 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,160 to 10, well that's only like double. 1239 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,360 But like we're talking about statistically hitting a dice 1240 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,720 pool 5 to 10, it's exponentially more difficult. 1241 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,400 It's not just twice as hard, it's it's, it's way harder. 1242 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,040 I mean, yeah, I mean I think this is just, it's just a 1243 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,000 symptom, the same thing. It just needs smaller numbers 1244 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,680 all around, which isn't bad. But I listen, I fucking love 1245 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,120 when it's like, yeah, difficulties 1-2 or three or 1246 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,560 whatever, you know, I think that's great, Very easy to keep 1247 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,320 a hold on. And I think for a game like this 1248 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,800 where it's really not about like this long term campaign esque 1249 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,840 power growth, you know, this is much more of like an old school 1250 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:27,480 esque kind of or NSR kind of thing where you'll need big 1251 01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:30,000 numbers because you're you shouldn't be aiming to get in 1252 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:31,880 big stuff happening. It should be. 1253 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,680 You're this kind of one shot, a short adventure game, you know? 1254 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,080 Well, I mean, to me the craziest thing is like, I'm rolling 1255 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,440 potentially. I mean like I said right here 1256 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:45,680 like I'm missing like the what is one of the if not the highest 1257 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,640 bad guy in the game, the Night Baru, right? 1258 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,440 Currently in this in this Beastie area I'm missing 2 out 1259 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,320 of three times with 20D sixes. But here's the thing like I 1260 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,680 could roll 20D sixes, hit and then roll 2D6 dice to for 1261 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,240 damage. Like it just there's there's a 1262 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:08,840 disconnect in the core dice pool like you said where the numbers 1263 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,360 just become so ridiculous and and meaningless like I have. 1264 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,600 I have a ton of dice and I feel like I might. 1265 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:16,880 I was going to say I would struggle to find 20 to sixes. 1266 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,480 I wouldn't, but like most people would like and I'm just one 1267 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:24,480 person. So I'm thinking now about this 1268 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,880 dice pool and you know if you're roll, if you're trying to hit 1269 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:33,480 ten with 20 and this dice pool is really just a 5050 because 1270 01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,600 it's 4 and up is hit. I've been thinking because 1271 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,560 obviously like I've that's that's five and up is hit and so 1272 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,520 the math is worse. So this one's really like, if 1273 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,920 you have 20 dice and you're rolling, fuck, I don't know, I 1274 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,040 need to double check the math. But if you're rolling 20 dice, 1275 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,840 it's a you have a 50% chance of hitting, right? 1276 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,840 I mean, you would think, but I bet you math says no, I bet. 1277 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,720 You there's some weird like, I mean the actuality of the thing. 1278 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,040 But my that's my point, is that in order to fight the Night 1279 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,840 Brute when there's three of them, you in order. 1280 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,160 Even if that is the case, where like yes, you average, that 1281 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,600 means you need at least 20 dice to average hitting this thing. 1282 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,600 You know what I mean? Yeah, every other time you swing 1283 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,680 ish. Which is just, I mean again, 1284 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,840 like the dice pulls are they they they get so massive, so 1285 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:26,080 quickly like I said. I found the I found the dice 1286 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,600 calculator. Yeah. 1287 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,359 But again, like, like we said, I think, I think it's fine. 1288 01:08:32,359 --> 01:08:34,600 I just think the numbers should all across the board should be 1289 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,319 halved, like completely, Yeah. Because here's The thing is, 1290 01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:42,439 once you're rolling 20 dice, what does a + 1 dice up upgrade 1291 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,319 really? I mean, it really is. 1292 01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:46,960 So it's very, very small, you know? 1293 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,880 Like you're needing like 5 or 10 at a time to statistically, 1294 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:57,200 statistically change anything. Mm hmm. 1295 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:00,439 Mm hmm. Mm hmm. 1296 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:01,439 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. 1297 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,640 So that's what I'm saying. It's like I don't have a problem 1298 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:04,800 with the system. I like it. 1299 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,399 I think it's great. I just think the numbers are are 1300 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,000 could literally everything could just be reduced in half. 1301 01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:13,760 Yeah, and I agree, I think. That and it would be fine. 1302 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,200 Like it's not. Hard it's doing like yeah, 1303 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,600 really reflecting on the math like we've been talking about it 1304 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,000 at the about it being about basically they're all coin 1305 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,880 tosses. It's just several coin tosses. 1306 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:28,960 You know I do like that. I I like what's going on here. 1307 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,080 I like the kind of vibe of the adventure. 1308 01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,760 But yeah, I all the math cut in half would be great. 1309 01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:35,960 Yeah. I mean hardest enemies. 1310 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,240 Hardest enemies 5 to hit, you know? 1311 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:42,960 But then really, it's like you don't need, you don't need to be 1312 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,960 rolling, 14 does. I mean, I I just don't want to, 1313 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,200 you know? Well, that's the other thing 1314 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:52,120 too, is if everyone does decide to bring the amount of dice that 1315 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,640 they need, right? Right, You you could have four 1316 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,680 or five players to the table. That means you have like 80 to 1317 01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,640 100 D sixes, right? That'd be really. 1318 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,480 That's actually. That's actually more than I have 1319 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,920 D sixes right now for my own current D6 dex pool game that I 1320 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,240 run. Yeah it's just it's just crazy. 1321 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,080 So anyway so we're still on the GM section mission design. 1322 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,240 I do like some of the stuff around here. 1323 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,720 I mean it is pretty I mean this is definitely one of those like 1324 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,040 this might be your first game kind of things because a lot of 1325 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,120 the DM designed it's so I mean it's it's extraordinarily basic 1326 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,680 stuff like have a hook build around your players. 1327 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,600 Don't forget that fun like OK we get all that. 1328 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,760 I do like the little D6 hook pool they have here just to 1329 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,200 start stuff. Free Mecca hostage Plan a new 1330 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:34,840 base. Bring the Mecca Hunter to Mecca 1331 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,160 Justice again. I really like all that stuff. 1332 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,680 Fucking so funny. There's like, there's great 1333 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,160 humor in this. There's great flop in this, you 1334 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,640 know that's. What I said the the bones of 1335 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:49,000 this are so fucking good and I think with with some solid 1336 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,480 tweaks, not even changes tweaks, this would be so dope. 1337 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,040 So getting it. So this is another part where 1338 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:59,840 like obviously, so I I I believe that the creator is Italian 1339 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,160 Novacento man. Freddie, I could be wrong. 1340 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,640 I apologize for that. I feel like maybe there's a 1341 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,520 little bit of a language barrier issue here too, which I think an 1342 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,440 editor would really help with because the way that a lot of 1343 01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:13,720 the lore parts are written, there's just some some some 1344 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,680 things. I mean also like the role check 1345 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,480 in how to play, but you never see the words role check ever. 1346 01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:21,880 I don't know if they just like forgot to pick one and didn't go 1347 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,200 delete on the first page or not, but you never see role check 1348 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,240 ever again anywhere. That's so true. 1349 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,600 We haven't seen it since the first. 1350 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:31,760 Can you give me a Dexterity roll check please? 1351 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,680 Yeah, so, so the medieval world of mecha concrete, it's an 1352 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,160 interesting little setting. It's got some really clever 1353 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,560 little parts to it. I think a lot of this needs to 1354 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,640 just be completely reworked into like just a a couple paragraphs, 1355 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,400 not split up like this. So mecha concrete takes place in 1356 01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:50,760 a a world called Latra where technology is basically medieval 1357 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,040 times. You know anything they they 1358 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,800 can't figure out, they call magic blah blah blah. 1359 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,480 And then suddenly the meccas and the process of other ship just 1360 01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:03,800 show up and and drop on the earth or drop on to Latra and 1361 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,760 Mecca see humans as as savages and stuff. 1362 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,800 So society is superstitious. In most regions, religion's a 1363 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,760 thing, just medieval times the so. 1364 01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,200 This influence often blooms into outright bigotry and hatred 1365 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,160 against what is different from your baseline humanoid creature. 1366 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,720 Not all societies are bigoted or cold minded though. 1367 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,880 Most humans are not entirely hostile to meccas and will even 1368 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,240 trade with them. It's just weirdly again, it's 1369 01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,560 it's these are three different parts, but it's weirdly broken 1370 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:36,480 up. Like. 1371 01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:39,280 Also like, we get to a religion section that basically just like 1372 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,440 repeats a lot of because this is basically talking about 1373 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,520 folklore, bigotry, religion. It's just weird to have it like 1374 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,480 written this way. Then there's a whole and also 1375 01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:51,840 like it's got like a bolded separate paragraph for your 1376 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,760 section but like the how to play didn't have that part. 1377 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,960 Talks about politics again before the arrival of the 1378 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,920 process of mothership. There were kings and stuff and 1379 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,280 now warlords have like pop. Most kingdoms focus on war 1380 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,000 against the meccas. Economy changed because of 1381 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,240 Latra. It like it raised the worldwide 1382 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:11,800 economy because like meccas are constantly looking for silver, 1383 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:15,000 oil and iron. So basically the whole world 1384 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,720 just started like focusing on those but also now there's like 1385 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:23,040 robot like technology, so it accelerated basically gave them 1386 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,120 like a technological boost and other like golems and our. 1387 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,600 Chemicals, that though. That's clipped dope. 1388 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,480 That's very my speed, you know, like that's very much AI love a 1389 01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:34,560 good science fantasy. But yeah, this section where the 1390 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,640 moment they were like, Oh yeah, the pursuit of silver and oil 1391 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,360 has like, I'm like an iron. I'm like, Oh yeah, they would 1392 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,280 cause like a crazy industrial revolution, you know? 1393 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:46,960 Again, all this is good. Here man. 1394 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,680 It's good, but like, it just all of this needs to be reworded 1395 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,280 into something that just makes it reads easier and makes more 1396 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,480 sense. Military, the process of mother 1397 01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:58,640 shift arrived now like Knights and plate armor and crossbows 1398 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,040 because like, they basically didn't have any of those things 1399 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,680 and now suddenly they have like all this increased technology. 1400 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,160 And like war is a thing, so people are like becoming Knights 1401 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,560 and shit like it's a thing. A lot of military presence, the 1402 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,640 wilderness of Latra exists. There's stuff there. 1403 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,920 The cults of Latra. This is like it talked about 1404 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,640 cult stuff earlier, but now we're having a whole different 1405 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,120 part about cults, which is, like, really weirdly worded. 1406 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,560 While religion is not a big part, cults emerged. 1407 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,280 It's unclear why, but cults sprouting in different kingdoms 1408 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,360 is alarming. They range from simple living in 1409 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,040 a peaceful countryside style of cult to more dangerous and 1410 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,640 bloody cults like crowd. You know that every day living, 1411 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,720 living in a peaceful countryside life cult. 1412 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,800 That's what I'm saying. Like all of this can be. 1413 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,320 All of this could be reworked. It's like 2 concise paragraphs 1414 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,200 where the flavors all condensed better. 1415 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,160 It's just, it's just, it's just written in a really weird way, 1416 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,440 laid out in a really weird way. And then there's a process of 1417 01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:53,440 mothership, sometimes called the processor. 1418 01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:55,200 It's the original birth place of the meccas. 1419 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,520 It roams above the world of Latra. 1420 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,560 It creates 5 meccas per minute with a brief training period of 1421 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,800 a couple of months and then sends them to the planet. 1422 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,600 So that's what you guys are. That's what your players are. 1423 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:12,360 Nobody knows what his purpose is or even if it's manevrated. 1424 01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,240 I don't know, I I think that's got to be like a maybe 1425 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,720 maneuvered or something by living being of high 1426 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,840 intelligence what is known as a processor works non-stop and 1427 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,360 that's it. So again I like the innate 1428 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,160 setting. I think it's really clever like 1429 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,600 even like the silver bit and stuff like the increase tech. 1430 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,680 I think there's so much good flavor and like a little mini 1431 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:37,000 setting that's just enough there to give you cool stuff without. 1432 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,600 Like you don't get Kingdom names, you don't get this, you 1433 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,680 just get some vibes of different shit I like. 1434 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,960 It needs to be reworded. But yeah, I do too. 1435 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,440 And like my, I have a massive no no what's? 1436 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,880 Your massive complaint. I have a massive complaint about 1437 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,760 a lot of other not this game, a lot of other games where in in 1438 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:59,400 fantasy in general where magic exists and there's no accounting 1439 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,880 for that like the world's the way it would be magic exists and 1440 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,840 like that would drastically change how everyone interacted 1441 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,680 with everything. It would change how your economy 1442 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,600 would. So I think it's so cool that 1443 01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,960 this is like Oh yeah, there are mechs in this like classic 1444 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:17,080 fantasy, medieval esque setting but just by their being mechs 1445 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,720 and the mechs being like a buying force of like needing 1446 01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:23,280 supplies specific supplies. There's been this boom in 1447 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,040 industrial revolution and mech technology. 1448 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,560 I'm like, oh, that's yes, you're that's exactly what would 1449 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,360 happen. So I do really like that part. 1450 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,600 Yeah, so many said. I mean that's The thing is like, 1451 01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,240 I do like when there's like more of the mud and blood where magic 1452 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,840 is super. The problem is every standing 1453 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,280 says magic is super rare, but all of you have magic. 1454 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:47,560 Yeah, but I like magic. It's crazy, but like like it. 1455 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,280 Definitely, because I I have AI, have my own home game. 1456 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,480 I've had addicts, which is like magic, super rare, but you're 1457 01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:56,440 all Wizards. It sounds so guilty of that. 1458 01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:58,680 But like, if you look at something like full amount of 1459 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,080 alchemists like it make like everything is built around that 1460 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,360 shit, so it makes sense, you know what I mean? 1461 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:03,760 But it's. Funny, because that's a great 1462 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,400 example. Because in the civilized world, 1463 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,800 yes, But like in like the rural, pastoral areas of that world, 1464 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,120 like they never see that shit. They have to live regular life, 1465 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,000 you know. Yeah, exactly. 1466 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,680 But I mean like, you're right. Like, so fuck Harry Potter and 1467 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,280 fuck JK Rowling. She's a turf cunt. 1468 01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:23,560 But someone, some point maybe it's like Brennan Lee Mulligan 1469 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,600 or Matt Mercer or somebody and someone somewhere was like 1470 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,080 talking about Harry Potter and how it's just like these people 1471 01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,200 have magic where they can literally teleport anywhere. 1472 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,480 They fucking what? And they still force owls to 1473 01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:35,040 deliver letters like I make no fucking sense. 1474 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:36,480 That is Brennan Lee Mulligan. So. 1475 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,040 I love I I I love Brennan Lee Mulligan with Omar. 1476 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:41,960 Natures. Slowest bird. 1477 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,400 Anyway, so the character sheets, great. 1478 01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:47,520 I love it. It looks cool. 1479 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,600 It's super clean. It's great. 1480 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,120 Is it good? This is listen, if you're 1481 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,400 listening and you want to make a character sheet, great example 1482 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,320 right here. Has personality. 1483 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:59,920 Doesn't go like so far in to like the vibe that's unreadable, 1484 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,680 you know? But I do love so the strength 1485 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:07,760 decks Wiz on the side. I love all the cables plugged 1486 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,600 into the other things. It's so good. 1487 01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,040 It's so good. I mean here's the thing again, 1488 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,640 we beat this game up a little bit, but I really like it. 1489 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,680 I would, I would play the shit out of this game. 1490 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,400 I just think that we'll we'll go over it. 1491 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,440 Let's just let's let's get these scores done and and get out of 1492 01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:26,880 here. So mega concrete. 1493 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,680 The game of mechs in the medieval world. 1494 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:31,720 We're doing a Zine review on this. 1495 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,600 That means only three scores and not 5 visuals. 1496 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,680 Rule set and five visuals. Are all the visuals, layout 1497 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,520 arts, all that crap? Rule set is what it sounds like. 1498 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:46,040 And vibes are kind of like how we feel about it, how much it 1499 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,280 feels about itself, you know, and how bad do we want to play 1500 01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,200 it when we close the close the book. 1501 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:57,800 So visually and now let's again, so this is the Z1, So layout, 1502 01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,560 the visual layout of it comes in as well as art. 1503 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:08,760 What are your thoughts? I think it yeah, I think the 1504 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,280 arts cool. It definitely does a style and 1505 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:19,240 does that style well, and I appreciate that the layout is a 1506 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:26,480 little bit of a mess and and could use, you know, some work 1507 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,920 for sure, but I don't know. I'm kind of sitting at A5 for 1508 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,400 this one. Yeah, I mean, so we talked about 1509 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,520 this before too. So the art style is not, it's 1510 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,560 not my favorite, but it's good like it's well, it's good like, 1511 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:45,560 yeah, for this style that they, uh, of their art, it's, it's 1512 01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:46,840 well done. Proportions are good. 1513 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,120 Color is great. Like, it's all great. 1514 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,760 It's just a little cartoony, which also is, but also is fine 1515 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,880 too because there is a bit of like a zany. 1516 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,200 Yeah, it is this. Absolutely. 1517 01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:57,880 I agree. I think for what this is, it's. 1518 01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,880 Yes, I'm. I'm just an edge Lloyd Little, 1519 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,800 you know piece of shit who likes dark bloody bullshit. 1520 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,680 So this is you know, but it's good. 1521 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,200 I don't really have any problem with art. 1522 01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,920 I think there's I I mean even on areas where there's so for 1523 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:17,120 example like the index page there's like kind of transparent 1524 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,880 ish like gears in the background of the pages. 1525 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,360 Like they did a really good job with that stuff. 1526 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,680 They like there's little gears around the numbers, which is 1527 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,600 really cute. I really like the way that they 1528 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,240 did like boxes for things. That's really well done. 1529 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,960 There's never on a page where there's like a big empty spot 1530 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,840 like the bottom of the page, the whole wrench piece, which is 1531 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:40,880 really nice. Next to maybe. 1532 01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,440 I'm a six on this, honestly. The the I like the the, the 1533 01:20:44,440 --> 01:20:48,720 almighty Crusher. I like the the arm weapons like 1534 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:50,440 the Arctic through the whole thing is great. 1535 01:20:50,440 --> 01:20:51,600 The layout through the whole thing is great. 1536 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,400 Again, I love the gear stuff in the background. 1537 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:58,280 It really breaks up the white page like it it's it's really, I 1538 01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,840 really think that all of that stuff is good. 1539 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,200 I don't like the font choice I think. 1540 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,480 I really don't like the. It's. 1541 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:06,920 Almost. Comic Sans it. 1542 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,760 Almost reads Comic Sans. Like, that's what I was going to 1543 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,840 say too. Like, it almost reads Comic Sans 1544 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,760 like it's just. Again, if that feeds into the 1545 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,800 kind of cartoony niche that's fine. 1546 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:21,520 But like layout wise, so much of it needs to be better laid out 1547 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:25,600 and better separated. Like the How to Play section is 1548 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,360 literally one giant BLOB of text. 1549 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:33,840 And it it just layout wise, I'm I'm just torn because like for 1550 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,880 example, I love the creating a character page. 1551 01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:37,680 Like I'm just going to bounce back to that real quick. 1552 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,760 Like this is very the gear, the gears in the background, like 1553 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,000 the the things in the boxes. This page looks great. 1554 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,080 Like for the style of the game, for the colors and everything, 1555 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,520 it's great. But then you roll back a page 1556 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,920 and this is the how to play section and it's literally just 1557 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:56,320 one giant BLOB of text. Yeah, it's actually broken up in 1558 01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,040 those spaces. It's unquestionably the worst 1559 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,960 page. This is the worst half page in 1560 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,560 the entire book and it's the core rules of the entire game. 1561 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,920 So that's my issue. And that's why it's kind of 1562 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:11,160 difficult because the look of it is really good, but actually 1563 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:16,200 being able to use like, even like even like the pre inside 1564 01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:20,280 alarms page, great table, super readable art on the bottom, 1565 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,240 fantastic. So it's just it's weird, like 1566 01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,160 even if the first page is broken up, I don't know. 1567 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:25,640 So that's why I'm a little torn on this. 1568 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:30,520 I think a six is good because I have both positive and negative 1569 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,880 things to say and I don't think either one really outweighs the 1570 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,400 other. It's fine, it's usable. 1571 01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:38,880 The art is really good. It definitely a layout person 1572 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,440 could make this way better. I think 6 is 6 is generous but 1573 01:22:42,440 --> 01:22:44,200 nice. I think that's where I'm at. 1574 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,160 That's what you said, right? I did, yeah. 1575 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:50,000 That's what I said. Yeah. 1576 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,240 Rule set this one's gonna be. Hard. 1577 01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:57,160 This one's gonna be hard because there's too many, there's too 1578 01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:57,960 many dice. I don't. 1579 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:02,120 I don't have an issue with the dice pool or or even like the 1580 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,080 resolution math to it. You know, like, I think it. 1581 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:09,000 This is all that part works fine. 1582 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,480 There's two. The numbers are too big. 1583 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:15,560 There's two big numbers, so. And that's The thing is like 1584 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:21,400 every I like everything else. I love the the buy pick and 1585 01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:27,000 choose bits of of like picking your weapon arm, picking your 1586 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,440 PNL arm, picking your upgrade, picking your accessory, picking 1587 01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:33,040 like I'm usually not like big into like equipment lists. 1588 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,480 I don't mind like the bits and pieces of like putting your 1589 01:23:35,480 --> 01:23:37,520 shit, putting your fucking mech together. 1590 01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,120 I love that part. I think all of the bonuses you 1591 01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:41,560 get from that stuff is really great. 1592 01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,440 Like especially the upgrades we get like plus one or like the 1593 01:23:44,440 --> 01:23:47,440 compartment like all of the little bits of the mechanics I 1594 01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:49,480 think really make a lot of sense. 1595 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,080 I like the Beastie area. I like the way that they laid 1596 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,760 out like the bad guys and how it works. 1597 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,640 I I even like. I mean, I don't the initiative 1598 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,040 phase. I think that's unnecessary 1599 01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,160 amount of dice in an already unnecessary amount of dice. 1600 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,240 But like I think the combat works fine like it's it's it's 1601 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:10,200 just it's too it's too many fucking dice like like you said. 1602 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:17,320 I mean, I once again I think like I like the, I like the 1603 01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:18,960 initiative phase. I maybe I wouldn't have 1604 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,120 practiced after a few times doing it, and I think I'd like 1605 01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:23,800 it more with less dice than everything else. 1606 01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:25,680 So. That's what I'm saying. 1607 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,120 Like, at the end of the day, it's all you're deciding is 1608 01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:30,640 which one of you go first because the other one goes 1609 01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,000 second. There's no reason to potentially 1610 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,240 roll like 10 fucking dice to decide, OK, you go first, so you 1611 01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:37,320 get to go second. You know what I mean? 1612 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,720 Like if there's a more complicated or if like the 1613 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,960 amount of dice you rolled made any difference whatsoever in the 1614 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:46,680 fighting phase, the initiative phase, needing everyone at the 1615 01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,120 table to fucking rolled and Add all those numbers up might 1616 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,760 matter, but it literally is just like either you go where I go 1617 01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,000 and it could just be a coin flip, but let's everyone plus 1618 01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:00,560 all the bad guys roll dice. Like it's just if there was more 1619 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:05,120 impact for like why you're rolling that many dice, I would 1620 01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,640 say go for it. It's just unnecessary amount of 1621 01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:07,800 time. You could just flip a fucking 1622 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,640 coin or you could literally just say good guys always go 1st and 1623 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:11,920 it would make no difference in the game. 1624 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,520 So. What do you think? 1625 01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:14,680 Rule set? What's your? 1626 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:15,280 What's your? It's. 1627 01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,280 Hard, dude. It's hard because like the core 1628 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,680 mechanic is just not. I do not enjoy the amount of 1629 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,000 dice that you roll, but everything else I'm totally good 1630 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,840 with and really actually really like. 1631 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:27,280 So it's it's difficult. With A5. 1632 01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:33,400 Yeah, I'm honestly between like A5 and A6. 1633 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:38,400 I mean five to me is like we've talked about this before, like 1634 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:42,400 is bang average and we don't often get fives because we don't 1635 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,080 really pick games we don't like because we're not mean. 1636 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:49,320 We're just critical. I there's a lot of stuff. 1637 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:53,200 I just feel like the problem that I have and we might go with 1638 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:57,360 the five because this is like it's a balancing scale of how 1639 01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:02,160 much the too many dice thing is on one side and how much I like 1640 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:06,280 a lot of the other like cool, fun clean little mechanics And 1641 01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,640 not only that like the lack of mechanics where it's like really 1642 01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:13,200 like where they're hands off about like no descriptors of 1643 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:14,800 what the arms do. I fucking love that. 1644 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:19,200 Like, so that's my problem. Is like, does the weight of how 1645 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,080 much I dislike the massive fucking dice pulls outweigh? 1646 01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,320 I don't think so. I think there's so much good in 1647 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,560 this. I personally I if I'm between A5 1648 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,120 and A6, I'm leaning 6 on this just because I feel like there's 1649 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,880 so many more individual bits that I like and I feel. 1650 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,280 Like it'd be so easy to just cut the. 1651 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:34,600 Dice in half. I don't. 1652 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,920 I don't think the five is a hill that I'm like really dying on. 1653 01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,160 So I I I see your reasoning and I agree. 1654 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:43,240 I think so. All right, vibes. 1655 01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:47,400 But pretty good. It's hard because I'm just so 1656 01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:51,320 distracted by the the rule set, you know, which is actually part 1657 01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:55,200 of vibes for us. But good. 1658 01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,600 I want to play a version of this. 1659 01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:01,880 There is a version of this that I definitely am being like, oh, 1660 01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:03,360 this would be a blast to run like. 1661 01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:09,680 I think there's so much fun to be had with this idea that I 1662 01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,480 like it. I mean, personally, for me, I 1663 01:27:11,480 --> 01:27:14,440 think the rules do drag it down quite a bit because I'm not as 1664 01:27:14,440 --> 01:27:16,960 excited to play it. And I know that if I do run this 1665 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,320 like it's going to be kind of close to this, but the rules are 1666 01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:24,360 going to be different. So I think for this I'm probably 1667 01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:29,080 at about a six for vibes. Yeah, yeah. 1668 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,640 I'm I'm, I think I'm between like a six and a seven I mean 1669 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,960 and it is the problem is that it's it's the rules like if we 1670 01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:39,000 if we ignored the dice pool. Mm hmm. 1671 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,520 Like mechanic just said everything else. 1672 01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:48,560 I would be at like an easy seven maybe even an 8 if no, yeah, I 1673 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,200 mean the problem too is like the the wording of the lore in the 1674 01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,800 back needs to be like, I'm just annoyed, not not bothered, but 1675 01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:58,040 it's like tweaked a little bit by like some of the layout parts 1676 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,360 like the the the way that it's written at the end. 1677 01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:01,920 Yeah, I'm a six. I'm a good six with this. 1678 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,760 But I but here's The thing is like, this is another one of 1679 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,640 those games where I feel like if they brought in someone like a 1680 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:13,200 Christian Surelle as like a dev or a line editor who oh oh like 1681 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,680 meet meet Castle, yeah, but I would. 1682 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,760 Wear my Meet Castle shirt, but it's been my gym shirt because 1683 01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:21,320 it's such a great shirt. Very complex. 1684 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,640 It's a great shirt. But if they brought in someone 1685 01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:28,600 like that to really clean up the wording of the lore to help 1686 01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,280 tweak the layout. Because Meet Castle like 1687 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:35,200 Christian, does a lot of great layout in his own games and just 1688 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,520 like help balance the the dice pull a little bit more, Atuya 1689 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,000 mecha concrete would be sick as fuck. 1690 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,200 One of the reasons also being because like you said, every 1691 01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:47,120 fucking dungeon game that exists, every adventure for 1692 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,440 every dungeon game could be run with this. 1693 01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:52,560 You would have literally an unlimited amount of adventures 1694 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,280 to run because you could just be like, OK, exactly like you said, 1695 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,640 we're running fend over with mecha concrete. 1696 01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:00,480 We're running fucking literally eating fucking dungeon delve 1697 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:02,880 with mecha concrete and it would totally fucking work. 1698 01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,600 So yeah, I mean, I'm probably at a six, two, and that makes me 1699 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,360 sad because I think I like it a lot more. 1700 01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,520 I just think if I add up the points of how much I like stuff 1701 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,920 and then subtract the points of how much stuff bothers me, it 1702 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,120 reduces it. So. 1703 01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:18,920 Yeah. That's that's a problem. 1704 01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:23,560 Is the balance on on everything? I feel like it sucks. 6 and 6 * 1705 01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,280 3 is what, 1818? What? 1706 01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:31,360 What sucks about that is that number feels lower than how much 1707 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:36,320 I actually do like this game. I just think that it's got 1708 01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:41,320 amazing bones and some simple tweaks would jump a lot of these 1709 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,560 numbers from sixes up into like 7 or 8. 1710 01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,400 I think there is the yeah, I exactly what you said. 1711 01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,280 I have nothing to add to that. I agree. 1712 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,960 Let's let's hope maybe for a mecha concrete two EI. 1713 01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,400 So I do want to, I would love to play this role just to see how 1714 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,360 many fucking dice we use. And then I would love to play a 1715 01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,120 second session where we do the same fucking thing and just 1716 01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,520 reduce them in half. Someone in chat, which I know 1717 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:05,880 you saw, but you know if you're realistic to us, you don't see 1718 01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:10,360 our chat, mentioned that maybe they tested this on the VTT, 1719 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,960 maybe they places where the number of dice is immaterial 1720 01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,360 because it does like it's all virtual. 1721 01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,240 So yeah, I'd be interested to play it on the stream and like, 1722 01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:23,920 roll the dice virtually and be like, yeah, I mean, you know, 1723 01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:29,080 it's all on my screen, so. Yeah, but I mean, just because. 1724 01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:34,560 I mean just because the BTT makes the number like easier to, 1725 01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,160 like, add up doesn't mean that, like, the number in itself 1726 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,040 becomes meaningless to a point. Like, mathematically the 1727 01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:43,720 difference between 20 and 21 dice is pointless. 1728 01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,040 So why have that many? You know what I mean? 1729 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,920 Like, I I just, I'm not a fan of like the pointless shit. 1730 01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,560 And like you get to a point in the dice where it doesn't 1731 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,640 fucking matter, but you're going to keep adding them anyway. 1732 01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:53,840 So that's that's what bothers me. 1733 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,960 Not the ease of use, but I completely agree with what the 1734 01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,800 person in chat said. I think that's a possibility. 1735 01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:02,320 We'll see. The thing is, if you go to the 1736 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:10,200 The Itch page once again, Nova Shinto NOVECENTO dot H dot IO 1737 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:11,760 there's more adventures for this. 1738 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,680 So like, clearly they looked at it and decided to write more for 1739 01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:16,000 it. So who knows? 1740 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:18,600 We'll see. It's cool. 1741 01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,320 I don't know if it's available, but ratty. 1742 01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,240 But there's a number of spots. If you go to the Itch page, 1743 01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:23,640 you'll be able to click that and find that. 1744 01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:25,600 I definitely think it's a game worth snagging. 1745 01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,480 It's a game that I think, again, has good bones and super easily 1746 01:31:29,480 --> 01:31:31,960 hackable for anyone that has any basic understanding game design. 1747 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:33,960 And I think all the ideas and it are really good. 1748 01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,960 So that's it. Coming up, we have some fun 1749 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,600 stuff. We're really laying back on 1750 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,480 interviews. We're really laying back on 1751 01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:45,200 really like any kind of bonus episodes whatsoever. 1752 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,360 We're pretty much just gonna get back to doing what we wanted to 1753 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,920 do a while ago, which was side quests, which is our APS of 1754 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:55,640 games we've reviewed. And then maybe having some of, 1755 01:31:55,720 --> 01:32:00,080 you know, the the normal friends of the show on people like me, 1756 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:01,920 Castle, people like Marco and stuff like that, if they have 1757 01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:05,000 things coming out. And then our monthly not catch. 1758 01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:07,880 Yeah, but. But other than that really, 1759 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:09,960 really peeling back on the number of episodes we do because 1760 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:11,360 we got pretty burned out on Zenquest. 1761 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,680 So you know expect kind of going back to more often than not just 1762 01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,560 maybe one AP every other week and just a a regular episode. 1763 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,360 But that's it for today. Hunter. 1764 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,480 I'll see you later and people out there with yourself coming 1765 01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:27,800 up. We'll tweet oh I thank you. 1766 01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,320 You know route. Bye. 1767 01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:31,960 Bye.