1 00:00:15,380 --> 00:00:17,420 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll Podcast. 2 00:00:17,420 --> 00:00:20,420 My name is Ryan. And I'm the front man. 3 00:00:21,700 --> 00:00:27,020 And and today we are going to be looking at Death Game from 4 00:00:27,020 --> 00:00:30,440 Laurie O'Connell. This is a narrative driven 5 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,760 battle Royale RPG where you fight for your life, for the 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,600 entertainment of the rich and powerful. 7 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,560 Just like real life. Just like real life. 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Yeah, we are. We are. 9 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,560 Things are going great. Yeah, it is. 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,040 It is not long until we are literally fighting to the death 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,840 of national television to, to, to man, it just got dark in my 12 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,480 head real fast. I was like, oh, they're going to 13 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,640 be like, you don't want to get deported to El Salvador. 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,200 Fight for your life. I will not be shocked when when 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,280 Trump's running, man. Yeah, don't worry. 16 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,920 He's up on television. He's close to dead so. 17 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,480 I mean, here's something you know. 18 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,760 But but anyway, before we hop in, how you doing bud? 19 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,360 Oh so so good. I can't even express it. 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,000 There's a massive fire near me and I'm in a big valley so it's 21 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,240 been hazy outside and orange all week and it's been really cool. 22 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,840 For my sinuses. It's been really enjoyable. 23 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:34,760 That sounds fun. Why don't you just mask when 24 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,920 you're outside? What about when I'm inside and I 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,760 have no AC so I have to keep a door open to keep air 26 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,160 circulation or I keep it closed and it's really hot inside? 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Sucks, yeah. Yeah, it's been a been a bummer. 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,640 How about you, buddy? How's it going? 29 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,840 It's going much the same as last time. 30 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,440 I don't think we've done, I, I, you know, I, we did, I did a 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,520 bunch of episodes with some interviews and stuff. 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,480 We didn't get to play our MEC 28 game yesterday. 33 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,360 So we're basically going to have to relearn that whenever we get 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,360 to it. MEC 28 did drop a new a new 35 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,880 thing MEC 28 Arena. Arena, I saw that. 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,400 Yeah, yeah, I'm excited. It's it's interesting. 37 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,840 Also, the boss fight scenes put out by Big Boy Game time #2 that 38 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,440 you can buy from the World Champ site. 39 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,600 You can also get some of the sweet new World Champ shirts 40 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,120 rocking it right now. For those in podcast land, the 41 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:33,200 boss fight teens from Big Boy Game Time have bosses for Mech 42 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,560 28 in it, amongst other things. So. 43 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,760 So that's fire, but we'll eventually get back to Mac 28. 44 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,960 You know what I think? You know what I you know what? 45 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,320 I figured out what we need to do next week that we totally kind 46 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,280 of forgot to do when we do not weekly war games. 47 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,360 Once we finish playing the game, we should do an episode on the 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:56,360 show where we talk about it. Oh, it doesn't make any sense. 49 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,680 Yeah, so next week we're going to do Malagast on the show, 50 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,840 people. Oh, cool. 51 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,600 Yeah. And then once we finish Mac 28, 52 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,600 we'll do Mac 28 on the show. Maybe we'll talk to Berserk 53 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,240 Works and see if he wants to chat a little bit about it. 54 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,960 But that's kind of it. I I, I got new blue paints from 55 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,920 monument hobbies trying to figure out the my Night Lords 56 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:18,720 blue. I've only done like 15 different 57 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,680 variations, but I think I finally figured out the color. 58 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,840 I I found the perfect color that I wanted. 59 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:25,920 And it's a a Reaper paint that is discontinued. 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,520 So that was fun to be like, Oh my God, this is perfect. 61 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,760 Yeah, I'm so happy. Let me buy more and realize that 62 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,800 it's gone. But I do have to mix the color 63 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,360 and that's going to waste a lot of pain. 64 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,720 So that sucks. But the color that I want to do. 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,800 But I finally figured it out and, and me and Andy are going 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,120 to hop on tonight, do some more hobby stuff and make sure my 67 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:50,280 Night Lords list is all sorted and and then keep working with 68 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,280 the armies. That's about it. 69 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,640 That's all I'm doing. Nothing new, fancy, interesting, 70 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,480 did anything, got paid 2 1/2 times, pay for Labor Day. 71 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,560 Happy Labor Day, buddy. That's what. 72 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,800 I did. I'd worked and got paid regular 73 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,640 on Labor Day. So because there is no God. 74 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,560 Mean, yes, that's right. Yeah, that's true. 75 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,120 Yeah, that's what it. I think that's our our take 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,880 around time. I think we hit a lot of stuff 77 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,480 last week. We did. 78 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,240 I also did a lot less this week than I did last week, so. 79 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:28,000 Same, I worked a bunch and they know I'm in a nice long stretch 80 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,000 off. I finished in my mothership game 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,560 I'm running weekly. We finished the drain and we 82 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,280 started meat grinder where they go to hell. 83 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,520 So that was really interesting because they were like it's been 84 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,440 sci-fi this whole time. I like not this whole time. 85 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,320 We've been playing one adventure and they're like, they really 86 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,800 geared up for a sci-fi game and then like I opened the portal to 87 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,200 hell and they're like, wait, what are we doing? 88 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,400 Like you're going to hell. So. 89 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,800 Going to hell, buddy. I gave them the option to deny 90 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,240 the adventure and they were just like, cool, we'll do it. 91 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:08,200 I'm like OK. Speaking of that, I haven't got 92 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:13,160 them in yet, but new new. We talked this before Traveller, 93 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,200 mothership, blah blah blah. Arcane Sword Press does first of 94 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,400 all, I think it's called Downlink. 95 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Is there how to make traveler mothership or how to make 96 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,240 mothership traveler? Yeah, I have that somewhere in 97 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,560 here. I got I got their mech thing and 98 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:33,560 they sent it with it so. Yeah, so, so Heavy Metal Space 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,120 Checkers is now out. Oh cool. 100 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,880 Yeah, Teamsters for science fiction adventures in the far 101 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,680 future. So. 102 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:50,320 So yeah, I definitely hit them up on the DMS and I got some 103 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,520 physicals. So very excited to keep both of 104 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,240 those. And maybe we'll eventually, 105 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,880 finally talk about Traveler on the show. 106 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,840 Yeah, maybe. Yeah, they might also be Yeah, 107 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,920 they might also be a really good one to talk about it because 108 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,240 they've written so much stuff for traveler in a very and what 109 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:10,440 was really funny is the day IDM them and and, you know, ordered 110 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,440 from them the travelers Eens I ran into I got to their episode 111 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,320 on the high school podcast and listened to it that night. 112 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,080 So it's like, look at that happy winky dinky. 113 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:21,640 Anyway, so check out all those people we talked about Berserker 114 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:27,640 works, Arcane's WordPress. Yeah, so death game. 115 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,840 Death game is what we are talking about today. 116 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:34,680 So once again, death game. This is the physical in my 117 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,200 hands. It's a nice book. 118 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:45,720 Black and white, 100 and 2829 odd pages came with the arena 119 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,200 board. Cool. 120 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:55,360 Two sided which is cool. Came with a an adventure death 121 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:01,080 match of Castle Von or funny yeah scenario from Hodag. 122 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,480 They did spell heroes wrong in the back. 123 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:11,200 This is Heros and it is does not say that in the PDF, but it is a 124 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,160 flip out adventure that's very hodag pill they'll say that. 125 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,360 Very Marvel and Marvel superhero pilled as well. 126 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:20,680 Really. Are you sure? 127 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,880 Are you sure that's not just Red Doom? 128 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,480 But yes, it's very, it's very Marvel, I mean, but. 129 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,600 Did you read the archetypes in there that you can pick in your 130 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,760 characters from? Wrist, wrist, claw. 131 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,560 Wrist. Yeah. 132 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,600 Which is, for those who can't tell very much, just a drawing 133 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,960 of a Canadian man with with things coming out of his hands, 134 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,440 you know? He's a Canadian man that has 135 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:49,360 been cryogenically frozen and has retractable wrist claws. 136 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,840 There's also a Captain America one. 137 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,120 There's there's an Iron Man one. Like a genius rich guy built 138 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,720 himself an iron suit. It's pretty funny, honestly. 139 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,400 Mr. Mr. Vibrant, the Moon Viking, The Moon, the 140 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Flamestress. Yeah. 141 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,400 It's good, it's good. My addition also came with an 142 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,200 art print, but I think I put that in a box somewhere As for 143 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,520 to protect it and confined it. So it's flowing around there 144 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,720 somewhere. But yeah. 145 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,800 So Death Game is a narrative driven tabletop role-playing 146 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,040 game where characters compete in high stakes battle for survival. 147 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,440 Throughout the game, players will pick up different 148 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,160 characters struggling against all odds for victory. 149 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,480 As the number of competitors narrows and the stakes grow 150 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,000 higher, you'll play until one of you wins and the rest of you 151 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,240 die. During that time, you'll build 152 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,520 an arena, work out the rules of play, and grow attached to your 153 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,159 mostly doomed cohort of competitors. 154 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,640 That's the that's the copy for that. 155 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,080 So Death Game launched on Kickstarter on February 1st, 156 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,560 2024 and funded on February 15th, 2024. 157 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:52,240 They like to do those short Kickstarters with 371 backers 158 00:08:52,240 --> 00:09:01,320 for £7692 or $10,365 on a 2500 LB goal, which is like 3300 159 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,160 bucks. You can get it in PDF at Lori 160 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:09,440 O'Connell dot itch dot IO or in print and PDF at 12 pins 161 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:16,080 press.com. The other thing that you can 162 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,240 check out right now is called Full send. 163 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,840 It is a project currently up from Laurie O'Connell. 164 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,000 It is a tarot powered mountaineering RPG. 165 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,360 I did get a chance to to peek at it. 166 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,200 They hit me up in DMS were like, hey, you want to look at this? 167 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,800 And I was like, hell yeah. I love THRBGS and climbing. 168 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,560 We're both climbers. Yeah. 169 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,640 So it was cool. It was really neat. 170 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:40,320 I'm, I'm excited for the project. 171 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,520 I backed it right away. I love that the if you go to the 172 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,760 Kickstarter and look at the book, it the book, the cover of 173 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,120 the book looks like a like climbing guide. 174 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,240 Like for those of you who don't climb you, they make these 175 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,160 guides for different like popular rock climbing areas or 176 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,800 even like States and you can go buy them at most like outdooring 177 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,960 or like retailers in that area or even online. 178 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,200 And the book totally like if you look at your like, oh, that 179 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,400 fucking looks like like I have see if I can find one real 180 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,640 quick. Give me an example because 181 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,320 there's definitely like 5 right here. 182 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,400 It's very much got like this energy, you know? 183 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,880 Yeah, let me just let me just grab it real quick. 184 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:37,640 I'll show it. I want this page show yours 185 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:43,840 again. Yeah. 186 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:51,720 So when you look at the cover, which is right, Oh, is there 187 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,560 like a nice big picture of the cover? 188 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,240 Well, it's this right here. Yeah, it very much. 189 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:04,360 Yeah, it's this right here. It very much does look like 190 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,200 that, which I love. I think that's fantastic. 191 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,120 I think it's fucking great. Yeah. 192 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,040 So yeah. Full send Tera Powered 193 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Mountaineering RPG. They're very close to their 194 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,480 goal. It was another I think like 2 195 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,040 week funding, so it's only going on for a while. 196 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,560 They're at 5600 bucks out of 6054, so they're less than 500 197 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:24,320 bucks away from funding, which is really fantastic. 198 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,120 And again, I'm really excited for you use tarot cards to to 199 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,680 after picking like archetypes for your climbers to to climb 200 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:37,560 these mountains together. It's not like it, it's, it's 201 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:39,640 mountaineering. It's not just, you know, boulder 202 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,280 bouldering or, or you know, top rope or anything. 203 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,400 It's actually like full on mountaineering, which is cool. 204 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,000 So you get to climb some of those famous peaks in the world, 205 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,720 go through your adventure. It reminds me a little bit of 206 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,040 like. Some real multi day multi pitch 207 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,000 adventures you know. Did you ever read the climb like 208 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,280 manga? No. 209 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,680 Oh, you should. It's fire, but it's it's really 210 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:04,960 cool. It was like I said, it's really 211 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,520 interesting. I got to actually take a look at 212 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,120 it. And they got some other really 213 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,240 cool people on the team. Nye Shaw, Kayla Dice, Samantha 214 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,480 Lee. Samantha Lee is actually the 215 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,200 editor of Death Game, which is what we're looking at right now, 216 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:21,840 and a stretch goal writer of Sad Pines. 217 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:27,240 And they used climbing photography from Lane Mathis. 218 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,680 So again, it's a really cool project. 219 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,720 I'm excited to check it out whenever we get it. 220 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:31,840 I'm sure we'll talk about it here on the show. 221 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,400 We've talked about some of the De Laurie O'connell's other 222 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,560 stuff on the show like Hieronymus, which is really 223 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:39,520 interesting game. So excited to look at that. 224 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,000 And so go back this go back this shit. 225 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,080 Like I said, they're they're. One of the work first, like when 226 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,960 we first started doing the show, I picked up Sleeping Above a 227 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,280 Stolen Crown for Lancer like before. 228 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,800 I think they ended up Laurie ended up putting it on 229 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,200 Kickstarter at one point. But like they post like a 230 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,440 version on like Twitter forever ago when I was on Twitter, yeah, 231 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,720 everything that they've ever put out, I'm like, this is good. 232 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,600 I really enjoy this. Yeah, I think I have most of 233 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,760 their catalog. Hieronymus. 234 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,040 I don't know if I have Winter's Tale. 235 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,120 I have Litchcraft. You just talked about Stolen 236 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,800 Crown. OK, I don't I'm missing a lot of 237 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,560 stuff. Tawner and obey There's there's 238 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:26,000 a lot of stuff. Go check out 12 inch press, buy 239 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,680 a bunch of stuff, especially hyronymous. 240 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,720 Like I said, we talked about that on the show on some episode 241 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,440 that I don't remember, but it was good. 242 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,160 Really liked the game. Really interesting using 243 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,040 Hyronymus's Hyronymus Bosch art as like the content of the game 244 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,000 was really. Good game. 245 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,240 It's truly odd in a very enjoyable way, and it's fucking 246 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,160 cool. Yeah, it's really neat. 247 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,880 So. So yeah, Lori does cool stuff 248 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,280 and we're going to talk about one of those things today, which 249 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:58,280 is which is death game. So let's just let's just hop in. 250 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:04,240 I guess there is one thing. Oh, read the introduction 251 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,920 paragraph is what a note I gave to myself. 252 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:11,720 So the art through the entire thing is from a Hodag shout out 253 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,560 HODAG. They do great art. 254 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,200 Yeah, they do great art and have interesting opinions on the 255 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:23,920 Internet, but there is a page in the beginning that I really 256 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,680 enjoyed. I mean I like the vibes and the 257 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,400 layout and stuff all throughout. Luke Earl also did the the 258 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,600 layout for all of this Aether Corp. 259 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,840 I have this from them, which is really fantastic. 260 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:44,600 This is the Field Agent Handbooks which are really 261 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,920 fantastic. They are you just got to go 262 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:50,880 check out the fail like the handbooks. 263 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,440 There are these fantastic like game, but use the real world 264 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,000 kind of thing. And this was like a handmade 265 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,760 like traveler's notebook that came with it. 266 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,920 So all of these are that. So Aether Corp does really, 267 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,200 really cool stuff and these are gorgeous. 268 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,200 So a lot of a lot of really great people associated with 269 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,080 this project, which is really cool. 270 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:15,640 So, so, yeah. So death game paragraph, the 271 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:22,240 thing that I wanted to look at, we'll talk about that stuff. 272 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,880 So death game is a tabletop role-playing game. 273 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,360 This means the rules are here to structure your play experience, 274 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,440 but they are not as rigid as a board game. 275 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,160 You need to use your imagination to fill in the blanks with your 276 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,040 own story. If the rules of this game do not 277 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,160 account for something, that means the answer has to be drawn 278 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,880 from your own creativity and decision making. 279 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,680 I love that. That's one of my favorite. 280 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,400 Like, what is it teach RPG paragraphs? 281 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,600 I've ever really, really like just that line that like they 282 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,720 structure the play but are not as rich as a board game. 283 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,840 I'm like, that's a great way to describe a tape around a 284 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,720 role-playing game. Yeah. 285 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Anyway, there is some I do like. There is some little board 286 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,880 gaming aspect to this game though. 287 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,840 We'll go over it and it's really good. 288 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,880 Yeah, it it, it's a game, you know, and it doesn't try to not 289 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,920 be a game, which I like. Yeah, I think I've I've beat 290 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,280 with a dead horse. How much I wish people would 291 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,800 just realize that they're playing fucking games. 292 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:18,640 So what is this game? The gist of this game is that it 293 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:25,840 is a quasi dice pool, quasi funnel roll over game that uses 294 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:31,760 clocks, arenas and rotating GMs or players battle to the death 295 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,320 until only one remains. That's the game. 296 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,440 Does that sum it up? Was that a good summation? 297 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,960 I think that was good. I like that. 298 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:41,880 That was good. Yeah. 299 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,400 So mechanically, what the fuck does that mean? 300 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:51,360 So some I'm rolling through some parts for those. 301 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,880 Can't see at the beginning when it talks about the rolls of the 302 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,520 game, dice rolls, everything like that, Touchstones, which 303 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,480 are great. It is a battle Royale style 304 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,839 death game talking about things like Hunger Games, Squid Game, 305 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,160 Alice in Borderland. There's an entire genre of anime 306 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,560 and shit. The battle Royale anime is 307 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,960 incredible. So is the manga. 308 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,800 The Battle Royale live action movie is great too. 309 00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:19,240 So, so good classic we used to watch. 310 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:27,800 That in high school, actually. So good, and we'll talk about 311 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,600 this a little bit later, but playing the game, they get some 312 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,840 player principles here that matter, but we're talking about 313 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,840 the rules. So I'm going to skip character 314 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,800 creation because guess who does that? 315 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,480 Not me, and there's only two of us. 316 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:44,280 So the core rules of the game, the core mechanics, because 317 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,640 that's what I'm going over, is the rules breakdown. 318 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,080 Mechanically, the core is they skill check. 319 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,880 So how does the skill check work? 320 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,520 You have three skills that Hunter will go over a little bit 321 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,440 more that is violent, smart and lucky, and you assign one of 322 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,160 three dice to each AD 4AD6 and AD 8. 323 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,240 And again, Hunter will go over that a little bit more. 324 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:11,560 When rolling a skill check. You pick one of those, let's say 325 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,600 violent, and you had AD 6. On Violent you would take AD 6. 326 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,160 And then there are a couple other options you can have to 327 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,880 build out. Sometimes a dice pool. 328 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,040 That's why I said it's a quasi dice pool game, because 329 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,040 sometimes you will literally just roll your skill die, but 330 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,920 sometimes you'll have an item which lets you roll another D4, 331 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,480 Sometimes you will have an assistance from another player 332 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,360 which allows you to have another D4. 333 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,880 And sometimes you will have a boost because of some abilities 334 00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:41,040 and that lets you turn your skill die from up a level. 335 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,480 So instead of AD 4 would be AD 6 or D6 to D8, etc. 336 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:48,160 And sometimes you'll have a background skill, which Hannah 337 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,600 will go over a little bit more, and it allows you to just roll 338 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,240 AD 10 instead of whatever skill you were going to pick. 339 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:03,680 So you could potentially have AD 10 plus AD 4 plus AD 4 and have, 340 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,000 you know, up to three dice to roll against a difficulty class. 341 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,360 The difficulty class is generally A4. 342 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,680 We'll go over that a little bit more later, but it is a roll 343 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,640 over, not a roll at or over. So if it's DC 4, you have to 344 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:26,360 roll A5 or higher and you just try to to roll above that and 345 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:28,720 then you succeed at the thing that you're trying to do. 346 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,760 There are levels of success though, So when you resolve a 347 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,160 skill check, you can have critical, critical successes, 348 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,280 successes and failures. And then there are two kind of 349 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,840 differences with the way things are rolled. 350 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,480 So on a crit success, if you roll double whatever the DC is, 351 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,840 you Add all the dice together, not just take the highest when 352 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,520 you have like any more than one, it's. 353 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,080 So say the DC is 4. If you roll an 8, you get a crit 354 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,120 success, which gives you a bonus to something. 355 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,960 Items, clock stuff, like whatever, you just get something 356 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,000 extra. On a success, you just succeed 357 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,640 at what you were trying to do. On a failure, you just fail at 358 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,000 what you were trying to do. But there are modifiers to the 359 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,320 rolls. Roles are either perilous or 360 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,760 controlled. So if they are perilous, most 361 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,720 roles are perilous. It's a it's a death game, so 362 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,800 things are perilous when there's risk harm could come to 363 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,120 something you're you're acting under fire, any of that stuff. 364 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,960 Controlled is when the odds are overwhelmingly in your favor. 365 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,640 You're chilling out like whatever. 366 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,120 Basically, if everything is super calm and it's not that big 367 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:40,560 a deal, it's controlled. But most things are going to be 368 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:46,840 perilous. So if you fail on a control 369 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,440 rule, it lets you either just be like, all right, I I don't do 370 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,320 that thing, I abandoned the attempt or re roll as a perilous 371 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,280 check. But if you fail on a perilous 372 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,240 check, something goes wrong. Like you get hurt, lose an item, 373 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,320 something else, and then you add 1 to your peril score and roll a 374 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,920 death save. So you have peril as a stat. 375 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,960 Why don't we go over that a little bit more than character 376 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,440 creation? But every time you fail a 377 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,040 perilous check, you have to do a death save, which means you 378 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,240 could potentially die on every skill check that you do. 379 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:31,800 The way death saves works is that you roll AD 12 and you have 380 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,080 to roll higher than your current peril score. 381 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,520 So if it's if your peril scores like 7 on AD 12, that sucks for 382 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,880 you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 383 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,400 Any time it's. An incredibly lethal game. 384 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,720 You roll death save every time you fail. 385 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,080 Perilous. And like it states pretty 386 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,680 clearly, like most, if this is a death game, most things are 387 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,000 perilous. Yeah, yeah. 388 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,800 So literally, like you could roll the very first time and 389 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,280 roll A1 on your and fail, roll A1 on your death save and die 390 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:09,840 immediately. I want to make sure I'm kind of 391 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,040 cruising through this, but I read it. 392 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,880 I read it, So I don't really need my notes so much. 393 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,040 Yeah. Must mean a beat rolls a pair of 394 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:16,520 this. Yeah, I'm. 395 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,040 I'm new. Good. 396 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,400 So opposed skill checks are a thing. 397 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,640 They work like you think they do. 398 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,120 Both of you roll against each other. 399 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:31,160 The difference is that if the loser rolls three or more less 400 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,080 than the winner, they get to roll AD 8 for their death save 401 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:41,040 instead of AD 12, and if they tie, both get to roll a death 402 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,320 save. I mean, yeah, so that's fun. 403 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,440 I. Do love this is like a part 404 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,520 funnel adventure, you know, like a game that's like mechanically 405 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,040 like is like a semi funnel adventure the entire time. 406 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because because if you die, I 407 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,720 don't did I ever did I run into that? 408 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,960 Yeah, it's probably the run of the game section. 409 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,840 But if you die, you just take over another another competitor. 410 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,240 You take over another competitor and we'll get to how many 411 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,520 competitors are here in just a little bit. 412 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,080 So some other things that are this are hero points, which is 413 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,920 basically this 5 E inspiration. If you do something cool and 414 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,680 everyone says that was cool, you get a hero point and you can 415 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,960 spend a hero point to not die. So if you fail a death save, you 416 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,360 can spend a hero point and and not die. 417 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,600 I personally would prefer it not be called hero points because HP 418 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:42,040 is HP and I think that things that are, we've talked about 419 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,400 this numerous terms, don't call things HP or AC when it's not 420 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,680 hit points or or armor class because it's extremely 421 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,880 established and confusing it. Is kind of like it's own pseudo 422 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,360 health pool, right though because you can just wave away, 423 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,920 you spend the point to wave away a death save. 424 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,840 So like I can kind of see the link there, but yeah, you know. 425 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,080 Yeah, I mean, I would call it like save points or something, 426 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,360 you know what I mean? Like kids, you're saving 427 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:08,360 yourself from death, but it's whatever because that's like the 428 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:10,480 only use for it, right is literally just to not die. 429 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,120 Yeah, as far as my understanding goes, yeah, yes. 430 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:19,200 Yeah, yeah, social encounters are part of the game. 431 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,400 You, you do stuff right, except that most often you have to 432 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,480 exchange something in order to do things. 433 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:32,840 Very transactional and and that can lead to promises, which is a 434 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,600 mechanic in the game. So promises are part of social 435 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,280 encounters where you make a promise. 436 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,160 There's examples here. It says when you make an 437 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,680 alliance with a competitor, when you take a quiet moment with 438 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,520 another competitor, which is an activity when you witness 439 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,760 another competitor's death. I, I, I don't think they're 440 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,400 explained super well right here, but the examples are explain it 441 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,440 better because I was like, OK, like I think I know what this 442 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,440 means, but what does that mean? It literally means like if 443 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,040 someone dies in front of you and you're holding their head in 444 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,400 your hands as they die, you can be like, I promise to avenge 445 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,560 you. That is a promise that you made 446 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,280 and any time you work towards a promise that you have made, you 447 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,240 get to boost your skill die, like bump it up as I said 448 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,280 before. So which is cool. 449 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,520 Also, when competitors die, other people can take their 450 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,920 promises. PCs or NPCS can take their 451 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,160 promises. So if if, if that same person 452 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,240 who wanted to avenge somebody died, I could take that promise 453 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,880 to avenge the person they were trying to avenge. 454 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,160 And then I get that promise, which is kind of neat that you 455 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,680 can just, like, keep that grudge going, you know? 456 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,360 Yeah. There's a whole line, a whole 457 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:44,240 chain of vengeance, you know? Yeah, which I love. 458 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:49,160 Also, NPCS can take them and you can eventually then get them 459 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,120 back because when you die, you take over NPC. 460 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:54,360 So we'll get to that a little bit more later. 461 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,920 Items. Items work in the game. 462 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,240 There are minor and major items. Those tables can be found on 463 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,400 page 57 with those in line hyperlinks. 464 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:11,960 We'll get to that again a little bit and you start honour, go 465 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,160 over what you start with. But as I said, if you have an 466 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080 item that you can use, you get AD 4 in your pool. 467 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,280 Rations is an optional rule I think is really interesting and 468 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,800 I like that is an optional rule. Me too, because I don't know if 469 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,160 I'd use it, you know? I would use it sometimes, which 470 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,960 is why it's optional. Basically what it does is it 471 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:37,440 creates a currency mechanic so you have things that are limited 472 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,600 resources specifically like food or or you can I think you can. 473 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,960 One of them says you can roll on some of the item table but every 474 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,880 competitor starts with the D4 rations. 475 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,600 But then you if you use rations you have to use rations. 476 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,120 So you have to consume 2 rations a day to remain functional. 477 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,720 If not bad stuff happens. It basically adds a currency and 478 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,320 starvation mechanic, which again, I think it's great. 479 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,000 Sometimes if you're like, say your arena is like a desert 480 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,800 arena, I would love to use the rations again. 481 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,240 It can make it basically walk. Exactly on the style of death 482 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,400 game that you run, because I have a style of death game in 483 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,160 mind for what I would run and I don't think I would use rations 484 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,680 for it, but I do love that it's there, you know? 485 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,440 Yeah, I like it's there and I liked it specifically that it is 486 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,800 optional. I think it's the only optional 487 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,800 rule in the game and it was good call, good choice. 488 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,040 Yeah, absolutely. So player activities. 489 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,480 So this is the stuff that you do when you actually are playing 490 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,000 the game. It allows you to set scenes and 491 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,840 moves a narrative forward and you can do one for each part of 492 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,640 the day. The day is broken into four 493 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:50,520 parts, morning, afternoon, evening and night, so everyone 494 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:56,920 can do something each time. So there are anytime activities 495 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,400 and then night only activity. So an example of activity could 496 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,360 be gathering supplies. So you can go out there, you set 497 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:08,400 a scene by saying we're going to go gather supplies and then you 498 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,200 can roll AD 4 and add it to rations. 499 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,880 And then you actually role play out those scenes. 500 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,480 Basically investigate move, which allows you to actually 501 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,120 move around the arena, moving to new zones and stuff, which is 502 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,280 important. We can do that in just a bit, 503 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,680 looking for trouble, hunkering down, shit like that, right? 504 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,600 And then there's a night only activities, which is take a 505 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,840 quiet moment, which is taking the hunker down move. 506 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,680 They call it a move, but it's an activity. 507 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,400 There's a little bit of, I think some of the words kind of get 508 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,520 jumbled up a little bit here a couple of times. 509 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,960 It is just the taking the hunter down activity because that's 510 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,360 what it's called called player activity. 511 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,560 But and moving under the cover of night is one get up close and 512 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,160 personal. But then you also have hunts, 513 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,720 which are fire. It's kind of like, you know, 514 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,040 when when the the bad guys, quote UN quote in Squid games, 515 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,520 wait for all the lights to go out and then try to kill people. 516 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,600 That's basically what this is. So hunts can only be carried out 517 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,960 at night when competitors are hunkered down and basically it 518 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,880 starts a clock and you are moving from location to location 519 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,840 trying to find another player, filling in clock segments every 520 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,160 time you successfully investigate a location. 521 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,000 So that's really neat. I like, I like that aspect of 522 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,360 it. It's dark and fucked up. 523 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,760 Yeah, I will say this is like for a game that has moves 524 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,360 essentially, this game essentially does have moves, 525 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,960 right? They're called activities. 526 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,720 They're fried, just moves a few times, but they are moves like 527 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,680 APBTAS game. I love them here. 528 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have a whole thing later on on the moves, 529 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,000 we'll discuss those more at length, trust me. 530 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:04,400 So getting into running the game, because not only when you 531 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:13,440 die do you take over to NPC when you die, you actually become the 532 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,120 GM. So in death game, everyone 533 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,000 shares the GM duties. When APC dies, our player 534 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,720 becomes AGM, the GM becomes a previously established or new 535 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,000 character. So when you die, you become GM 536 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,320 and then you then the GM gets bumped out into another 537 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:34,000 competitor or or a move happens, something that is called a move, 538 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,920 which we get to in a little bit and but everyone shares the GM 539 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,040 ING duties. So they make the game pretty 540 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,440 easy to run because everyone has to run it. 541 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,040 There is no permanent GM in this night like that a lot. 542 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,920 I think it's really interesting. You can really change the flavor 543 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,880 of the game by the way people run it, which is cool. 544 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,640 There's some principles here. Keep things moving, kill fast, 545 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,000 kill often. That's pretty much it. 546 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,960 So how does running the game work? 547 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,440 So first and foremost, you will set up the game. 548 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,960 You will make the game at the beginning, so you will 549 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,680 collaboratively answer a bunch of questions such as is the 550 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,160 existence of a death game, public knowledge, or a secret to 551 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,280 everyone but those who compete and those who watch. 552 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,520 You will answer a bunch of setting questions to create the 553 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,520 actual setting for the game as a group, because you're all going 554 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,800 to be running it. And then there are the arenas. 555 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,320 And every arena, well, most arenas have a gimmick. 556 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,240 There's some examples here like gradually flooding an abandoned 557 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,760 theme park, Jurassic Park themed and it's cool the way that it's 558 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:43,120 picked. Everybody suggests 1 and and 559 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,360 then by secret ballot everyone writes down what they want and 560 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,520 gives it to. I guess whoever's going to run 561 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,720 the GM thing versed in the example, they everyone can hear 562 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:02,440 all of the suggestions, but when the GM picks the suggestion out 563 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,840 of a hat or whatever, they keep it secret to themselves until 564 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,320 the game is up and going, which I think is a cool way to do it. 565 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,240 So, so that's cool. I I really like that group set 566 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,760 up to start the game. I like how collaborative it is. 567 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,560 I think it's just a fun thing to do with your party at the table, 568 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,840 too. I just sounds like a good time. 569 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,280 Also, yeah, I, I always love like, player ownership of the 570 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,080 game is cool, you know? Yeah. 571 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,320 Yeah, I mean, also, if someone does decide they just want to 572 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,440 make their own arena, you could just skip that and have someone 573 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,360 start with it. You just have to make sure that 574 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,480 you have that information easily pass on a ball to the next GM, 575 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,840 and I think that's great. What else? 576 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,760 You prep the arena board. So this is the arena board. 577 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,120 As I said, it's this really cool sheet. 578 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,120 I could probably pull up the PDF, but I'm not going to. 579 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,800 There's one if you want to print out yourself. 580 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,760 There is a PDF that comes with this digitally. 581 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,320 Yeah, but there is. But on the arena board there is 582 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,760 the there's number of days and then it'll actually mark off. 583 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,200 Fuck man, I should just bring it up. 584 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,560 So let's go over it real quick because there's no reason not 585 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,800 to. Arena board boom right there. 586 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,160 So the way it works in the top right it says Death game arena. 587 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,280 Underneath that it has 6 days with four, but they're circles, 588 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,160 basically clocks separating 4 segments, which are the four 589 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,760 parts of the day. And they'll have little symbols 590 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,040 too. There's like a sun, you know, 591 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,360 etcetera, etcetera. And then there are clocks 592 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,320 beneath that there's 12345. There's like 10 clock options. 593 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,840 The main part of the board is a big square in the middle that 594 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,120 has numbers around. The outside goes from one goes 595 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,280 from 50 around to 1. That is your competitors. 596 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,000 That is when people die. You mark off a space and then on 597 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,720 the left there is the kind of like game information. 598 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,120 So there's the place. So you write down what the place 599 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,320 is. It says public or secret. 600 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,480 You would just circle that. There are competitors section 601 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,600 listed there. You can write notes for named 602 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,120 competitors and stuff in there. There's a game runners little 603 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,920 note box and then there's the gimmick little note box. 604 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,040 So it's cool. It's cool way to set set it up. 605 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,719 And that way when you have the arena board and someone else 606 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,560 sticks the GM stuff, you can hand it to them and all the 607 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,320 notes, even writing are, are on it. 608 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,080 So I think it's really clever, clever way to do that. 609 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,400 So, but we'll go over the arena board a little bit more because 610 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,199 I have I have thoughts and questions. 611 00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:42,239 So you prep the board. The area is divided into zones, 612 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,000 and like I said, you log all of your stuff on it. 613 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,239 There are competitors, You choose how many competitors you 614 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,159 want. It's generally 25 to 50 615 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:58,320 competitors. And again, when a player dies, 616 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,960 they can take over one of those competitor spots. 617 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,840 That's what makes it the funnel part of the game. 618 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,360 It's very unlikely, I think that you will win with the character 619 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,200 you started with, which is which is cool. 620 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,840 But it's not impossible. And how crazy would that be, 621 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,200 honestly, you know? Yeah, it's not possible at all. 622 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,960 But I I like that it starts with like you 50 people, but there 623 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,760 are actual like arena moves I'll get to in just a little bit that 624 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,120 reduce that number quickly. So there are a number of named 625 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,040 competitors just like, again, like Squid Games, not everybody 626 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,680 has names that matter. But you know what the bad guys 627 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,840 number was? You know what the cute girl's 628 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,640 number was like, you know, shit like that. 629 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,680 There are competitor archetypes which Hunter will go over a 630 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:44,080 little bit later and then you get into starting the play. 631 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,640 So again, this is not, this is kind of AGM section because GM's 632 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,840 need to know this, but it's really just like how the game 633 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,600 works outside of like the core mechanic sections, the running 634 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,960 the game section. So starting play, it basically 635 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,480 says you prep the arena board, you get people in the arena, you 636 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,080 start with an arena move right away. 637 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:08,600 And then there's a bunch of how to sections here. 638 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,600 So how to use zones, how to use locations, how to track time, 639 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,320 how to use clocks, how to use non played competitors. 640 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,520 That's what NPCS are. You are not a player character, 641 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,480 you are a played competitor or a non played competitor. 642 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,160 There's a section on adding named NPCS, how to track 643 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,760 eliminations, pacing, and managing scenes. 644 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,200 Great section on how to run the game. 645 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,880 I think it's a really incredible section. 646 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,480 I agree. Then you get to the arena moves. 647 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,280 So in every part of the day players will have their player 648 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,240 activities, but then the GMs will also make arena moves. 649 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,480 And the arena moves are broken into three different types. 650 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,800 There are immediate moves. For example, there is Cull the 651 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,080 Arena forces all competitors into a challenge or 652 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,120 confrontation sure to kill a large proportion. 653 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,840 Basically the game in Squid Games, right? 654 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,680 For every six remaining competitors, roll 1D6 Add. 655 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,840 The results determine how many competitors die. 656 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:20,240 Damn, so if you have 60 people you roll 10D sixes and that many 657 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,560 people die? Yep. 658 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,680 Makes pretty quick, yeah. So those are immediate moves. 659 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,440 And there are introduction moves, which are what they sound 660 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,800 like. They introduce something new, a 661 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,360 competitor, affection or location. 662 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,720 And then there are clock moves which introduce a clock like 663 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:37,840 throwing a like someone's trying to escape. 664 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,200 So you know, they will make move, they will make activities 665 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,240 towards like a A4 chunk clock to try to escape. 666 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:49,160 The Hunt is a good example of a something that creates a clock. 667 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,080 Again, you do 1 per part of the day and then there are 668 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,800 showdowns. So basically once you get down 669 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,960 to just just PCs left you, it turns into a showdown. 670 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,720 It's basically like the end. So everything is wipes clean, 671 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:10,400 your hear points are destroyed, you're all in the same space, 672 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,560 all in the same scene. There are no death saves. 673 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:19,040 If you fail a peril perilous check, you immediately die or 674 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,440 abandoned a promise to survive, which is cool. 675 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,520 So if you've made a lot of promises throughout the game, 676 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,240 when you get to the showdown, you'll be able to basically say, 677 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:29,280 yeah, nevermind, I'm not going to avenge you, I'm just not 678 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,920 going to die this time. And then there are some 679 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,000 questions that happens during the showdown. 680 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,360 So before the showdown, you ask what you won't give up to win. 681 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,880 After PC dies, you ask is there anything you regret? 682 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,840 And with the one character left, you ask, what are you going to 683 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,920 do and was it worth it? I like that. 684 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,200 I think that's really cool way to wrap up the narrative. 685 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,560 This is obviously a very narrative focused game and 686 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,720 that's, that's kind of it. There's some examples showed on 687 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:58,120 here, a good old fashioned fight in a closed room, a lethal 688 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,800 obstacle course, a literal sudden death exam, you know, 689 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,800 cool things. And that's that's the core 690 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:10,760 mechanics of the of the game, both running the game and 691 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,720 playing it. So next we got. 692 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:24,320 Next we got character creation. Yeah, boom. 693 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,360 Let me get to it. All right, Go for it. 694 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,080 All right, this is going to be much shorter than Ryan's 695 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,320 section. Now, character creation is like 696 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,080 a fairly, fairly simple process. Ryan can't touch that. 697 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,920 Before you're going to generate First off, there is a about a 698 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,440 well that's wrong about a five step ish process. 699 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,800 One of the steps is really setting a score to 0. 700 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,320 So I'm if that counts. But the first step is going to 701 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,760 you're going to generate a name in the back story and it should 702 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,560 be like a fairly simple back story, a couple sentences, just 703 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,800 who this person has been up to this point. 704 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,760 After that, you'll distribute your die dice. 705 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,360 Like Ryan said, D4AD6 and AD eight among the three skills, 706 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,640 because three skills, being violent smart and lucky violent 707 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,400 being kind of strength, endurance or any time you're 708 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:13,640 being violent smart, any acts of like intellect or braininess, 709 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,720 you know, setting traps, figuring stuff out and then 710 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,520 lucky Lucky's a interesting one. It's kind of catch all. 711 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,480 It's a stat for when other stats won't work. 712 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,960 So if you're in desperate need of trying to find something or, 713 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,360 or any other way luck might come up, you roll lucky. 714 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,760 I feel like that is like an incredibly valuable one that I 715 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,720 would consider putting the D8 into because you you can just 716 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:39,600 make stuff happen sometimes, you know, and you just get really 717 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,880 lucky in this horrible game that will kill you. 718 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,280 After that. Those are your skills. 719 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,040 You'll create a background skill, the background skills a 720 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,280 little bit more open and narrative. 721 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,120 It's basically just a skill based on your back story, 722 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,200 usually kind of a one word description. 723 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,960 The example they get here on here, I think one of them is 724 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,760 pickpocket. And so anytime you can reference 725 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,440 that background skill on a challenge role, you roll AD 10 726 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,320 instead of whatever die you would have rolled otherwise, 727 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,520 which is a massive boost. The cool thing about background 728 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,440 skills that they're very useable, but they also cool 729 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,320 thing is they're narrow. So a pickpocket, I'm using the 730 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:18,600 example from the book because it's so good. 731 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,600 A pickpocket wouldn't get the same kind of bonus on just 732 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,240 stealth because that isn't expressed in that pickpocketing 733 00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,800 is like sleight of hand. So anytime they're trying to do 734 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,400 something slight of handy, that's when they'd get that 735 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:36,120 bonus. After your background skill, 736 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,040 you're going to roll 1 minor item from the minor items list. 737 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,520 After that, you will set your peril score to 0. 738 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,080 It does start at 0, so your first failed role, perilous 739 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,680 role, will send it up to 1 when you make your death save. 740 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,200 But starting at 0 is nice. I doubt it's pretty much they 741 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,640 that's, that's creating a character. 742 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,440 It's it's honestly incredibly simple. 743 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,160 Which is good because they're going to die. 744 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:10,360 Yeah. After that, we have, it feels so 745 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,400 short. I mean, it's good, it's 746 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,920 sufficient of what this is and I like it. 747 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,920 But actually we have competitor archetypes. 748 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:21,920 Let me roll to that note. Yes. 749 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,920 So these are going to be your like archetypes for like your 750 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,000 named competitors. So very easy process here. 751 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,240 You're going to give them a name, something super iconic, 752 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:37,200 like #431 then you'll pick an archetype. 753 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:43,760 And the archetypes are listed below on page 44 to like 47 or 754 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,640 48, I believe. And each archetype gives them 755 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,640 like kind of a flavor and a specific ability. 756 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:57,480 So one that we can pull from immediately is the, yeah, I'll 757 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,520 see the knife pervert. It's a terrible name, but yeah, 758 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,360 the knife Pervert. The knife pervert always has a 759 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,280 sharp knife or 10. They're excellent throwing them. 760 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,120 Sometimes they'll even lick them. 761 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,400 We all know the guy. So the ability of this archetype 762 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,240 gets is a blade in the dark. When you fail a perilous check 763 00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:21,800 in close proximity to this competitor, you roll AD 6 rather 764 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,040 than AT12 for your death save. Does not matter if you're 765 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,000 technically their ally, being around them is just lethal. 766 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,320 They might just kill you out of hand, you know, because they're 767 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:31,760 a knife. Because. 768 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,560 They're a knife pervert. Yeah, so there's some really 769 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,480 good ones on here. There's like some archetypes 770 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,440 from characters we've seen in like other media, like the Game 771 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,920 Baby, which is definitely like a Hunger Games reference. 772 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,000 No one wants the Game Baby to die. 773 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,800 But yeah, so you'll pick the archetype, you will give them a 774 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:59,440 secret, and then yeah, they have ADC each archetype, and the DC 775 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,360 is basically what your players will roll against when dealing 776 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,440 with that archetype. Very simple. 777 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,400 Yeah, pretty straightforward. Yeah, I like it. 778 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,400 That's like my whole section honestly, so. 779 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,240 Yeah, I mean, longer than the Ryke, sorry, longer than the 780 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:19,760 Ryke where literally it's just pick one. 781 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,480 Yeah, yeah. I think like this whole game, 782 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,080 like Ryan spoke for a while about the mechanics of the game, 783 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,880 but like, as far as like hard mechanics, like they're pretty 784 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,160 lightweight, you know, like what takes up most of the brain space 785 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,560 will be the moves. And they're good and they're 786 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,160 cool and I like how this is run. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 787 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,000 So yeah, let's let's talk about that. 788 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,600 The rest of the book basically gets you to there's a really big 789 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,520 example of play, which is really, really nice. 790 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,080 I did read it to clarify a couple of things and it does 791 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,040 really help, but it's literally like, I mean, it's literally 792 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,520 broken down. It's like making the game, 793 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,160 creating your characters like it literally like skill checks and 794 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,400 stuff like an example skill check and. 795 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,840 Promise. It basically gives you an 796 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,840 example of like everything, which I like. 797 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000 It's great to have all of this stuff. 798 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:20,800 I mean, it's literally the, the example is 123-4566 pages long 799 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:27,440 and it's good and I like it. Then you get the items lists and 800 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,880 then a names table and then a secrets table, a more secrets 801 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,800 table. And then you get I I think it's 802 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:42,480 four example arenas, if I remember correctly, to say 803 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,960 strobe alert as I scroll very quickly. 804 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,720 They are the examination hall, the Conrad Open hospital, the 805 00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:54,200 urban Mall and the oppression Olympics. 806 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,240 And that's cool. That's cool. 807 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:06,120 So. Let's get into our likes and 808 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:11,240 dislikes. So I'm going to start with a 809 00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:16,040 dislike, and that is I, I don't dislike very much of this game, 810 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:19,800 but it will. But I will say with the amount 811 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,120 of examples given throughout, because we skipped over some 812 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,720 stuff, but in a lot of the paragraphs they give you 813 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:30,320 examples and then there's a A6 paragraph or six page example of 814 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,280 play. I wish there was more stuff 815 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,160 about the arena board. So the way you get a picture of 816 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,160 an arena board, it talks about zones and locations. 817 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,440 I wish they would have just like the the arena board that they 818 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,120 give in the middle of the book because you're not going to 819 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,240 print that out of the middle of the book. 820 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:48,960 I guess you can, but like you're you get the separate PDF no 821 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,800 matter what. Yeah, it would be nice if it was 822 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,840 a filled out arena board so I can see what they mean by like. 823 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,600 Super. Greens locations like, you know 824 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,000 what specifically, Mostly like what's in the actual square on 825 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,880 the board Because I get like the clocks. 826 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,440 I get like marking off competitors, but for a little 827 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:11,080 bit when I first saw it, I was like, oh, zones means it's zone 828 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,000 25 and zone this. But I'm like, no, that that's 829 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,360 that's you marking stuff off. So I think it's great. 830 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,120 I think it's cool. I wish there was an example of 831 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,080 of one actually set up. I think that would have been 832 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,480 really nice. Like I said, especially with 833 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,520 this many examples that are in this book, I feel like that 834 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,720 one's a little bit missing. What about you? 835 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,720 I think that might be my only one as well. 836 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,760 Like all I say, I had a hard time finding a dislike about 837 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,880 this game. Like it's an incredibly 838 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:42,200 lightweight and and it's pretty incredibly tight game, tight, 839 00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:43,400 tight. And I like that. 840 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,520 I like that's the lightweight experience. 841 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,040 I think it does the thing it does well. 842 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,960 But yeah, it would be cool to have. 843 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,640 There's so many examples of everything else, like you said, 844 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,600 like it'd be cool to see it filled up or like there's 845 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,760 multiple zones, there's locations in each zone. 846 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,040 Like what does that look like when you draw it on that board? 847 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,680 Yeah. Punch circles. 848 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:07,320 Yeah, what is my like? I put I like that the game very 849 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,360 much knows what it is. It is not trying to be anything 850 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,400 beyond what it is to the point that there are literally quotes 851 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,200 all over the book like the back of the fucking book. 852 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,880 Like is literally a giant quote from Battle Royale and 853 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,240 throughout the entire book they have just Matt and it's not 854 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,880 small, they're not little. They will take up quarters, if 855 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,400 not whole pages. Yeah, there's like Squid Game 856 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,480 quotes and like. Alice in Borderland Battle 857 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,760 Royale, like all those things. So like right at the beginning 858 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,360 on the playing the game section, there's a song who quote from 859 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,120 Squid Games. We were kids, we would play just 860 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,440 like this and our moms would call us in for dinner, but 861 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,800 nobody calls us anymore. I like that it very much from 862 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,400 the beginning. It does not try. 863 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,840 It's not trying to reinvent the wheel. 864 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,120 It's just making a really good wheel, you know what I mean? 865 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,360 And I really like that. You know, we'll talk about that 866 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,600 a little bit more in originality, but I'm I'm a big 867 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,360 fan. Like, I'm a big fan of it being 868 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,240 like we, we wanted to do Battle Royale, so we did it, you know. 869 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,640 Yeah, yeah. What are we? 870 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,640 As for my like, I just think running this game and playing it 871 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,120 sounds like a fucking blast. You know, It just sounds like so 872 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,280 much fun to play this game. I do. 873 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,160 While we said that could be expanded upon with like what the 874 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,600 board looks like, I do like the board a lot and I like the like 875 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,720 physical like artifacts that go on the board. 876 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:31,440 Like the name competitor notes that everyone's tracking what's 877 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,960 going on the entire time. Everyone has like a good amount 878 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,400 of context for how things are moving through. 879 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,520 I mean it's easy to like swap that around as you change, you 880 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,560 know, who is the game master? I like this game. 881 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,560 Yeah, I like the game. That's a good like. 882 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,360 So let's go to our metrics. For those that don't know what 883 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,880 the fuck we do, we do quantify our terrible opinions with 884 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,680 metrics 5 for books, 3 for Zions. 885 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,760 We will talk about kind of a combination of all of those 886 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,520 things here, and then we will jump to a section where we 887 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,040 actually give those things scores, the ones that we pick, 888 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,040 whether it's a book or a Zine. So the total is 6 different 889 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,680 things we do art and layout, usability, rule set, 890 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,840 originality, value and vibes. And then for books, we're going 891 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,040 to give scores for art and layout, usability, rule set, 892 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,240 originality, and value. For zines, it would be visuals, 893 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,000 rule set, and vibes. So obviously this is a book. 894 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,960 It's like 65 pages before the arena's 100 plus total. 895 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,880 Clearly a book. It's a book. 896 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,560 You can see it physically in my hand that it's a book. 897 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:44,960 So let's start with. Art and layout What are What are 898 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,240 your thoughts on art and? Layout Oh, I think visually this 899 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:50,120 is a great game. You know, I think the Hodag arts 900 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,880 awesome. I really love the layout work. 901 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,600 I love these like diagonal hardline slashes through like 902 00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,160 1/3 of the page and then that panels either art or like title 903 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,400 or whatever. I think visually it looks really 904 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,840 good. It's a good, you know, it's it's 905 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,080 black text on a white background, but it's not that 906 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,200 simple. It's a good use of that is 907 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,080 incredibly readable. I enjoyed it. 908 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,080 Yeah, I think it was pretty good. 909 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,520 I think there are there are a bunch of pages that have like a 910 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,320 lot of white space, but I think the way that they do the margins 911 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,600 of the way that they do like this is an example of like grid 912 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,560 style, but they do it with like this kind of like diagonal. 913 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,000 I don't think it's actual, but they do this like diagonal 914 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,960 through all of it. And even when there's like big 915 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,680 pages, the, the way that they set the margins and stuff like 916 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,360 that, the way that they set the fonts and everything or the 917 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,680 typefaces, It never really bothered me that there's and 918 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,280 there is some spot art throughout and there are some 919 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,840 spaces where maybe they could have threw some more. 920 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,160 But it's good. I like you said, I really like 921 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,400 it. I like their use of the the 922 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,000 boxes to to have really important information in white 923 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,920 on black instead of black on white mixed with the full page 924 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:13,640 spread mixed with like the full page spread headers for all of 925 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,320 it. I will say I will say they 926 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,000 don't. They don't match up when you 927 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,360 look at it in PDF, they don't quite match up. 928 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:30,200 I assume that was a like a print thing to try to fix the margins 929 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:32,400 so that. So this is obviously the print 930 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,880 PDF. So there was a little bit extra 931 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,400 so it'd meet. But I will say it doesn't in the 932 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,560 physical of the book, I don't think. 933 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:40,840 I don't know if you have the physical. 934 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:46,320 Couple issues with the physical is that, for example, the page 935 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,920 that I just had up, Let's go back to the running the game 936 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:55,480 page or playing. No, I had it on the running the 937 00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:04,000 game page. It's what page am I trying to 938 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,200 find? Oh, I'm a fucking idiot, don't 939 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:12,960 listen to me. But running the game so it does 940 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,760 not match up in the PDF. Let me bring it over there, but 941 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:22,040 it also doesn't really fix the margin issue in the book. 942 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,920 So what you what I'm trying to show is that no matter how hard 943 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,240 you spread it, you lose a big chunk. 944 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:35,360 So on the double page spreads, you lose a little bit of art in 945 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,800 the middle, which is like not a big deal. 946 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,920 But on some of the pages where there is like a box or 947 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,480 something, some of that gets really dug deep into the margins 948 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,920 of the book. Also my book has this like see 949 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,360 this white line. I do see it, yeah. 950 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:56,120 It's on both pages all the way through the entire book, you 951 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,120 know, all the way down. You can really see it on like 952 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,440 the the Backpage here where it's going to like the line. 953 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,200 Yeah. So it's through the entire book. 954 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,440 There's just this like white line about like an inch and 1/2 955 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,560 in from the middle margin on every page. 956 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,320 So that's, I mean, that's, you know, that's not the actual art 957 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,840 and layout of the book, but it's, it's kind of like the 958 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,800 print stuff. But I just noticed, like I said 959 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:25,800 that in when you put this into spreads, it's not, it doesn't 960 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,480 quite line up and it doesn't quite line up in the book 961 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,600 either. That's all I have for that 962 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,600 though. But yeah, both are great. 963 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,680 The Hodag art is great. Luke girl did a really fantastic 964 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,920 job with the layout and I think that they tie really well in 965 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,960 together. I think that the style, the way 966 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,320 that the a lot of times like the art will be like set into one of 967 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,200 the like slashed sections. So it creates that same kind of 968 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:52,080 like chopped off slap section, which is really neat and yeah, 969 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,800 it looks good. So usability, Listen. 970 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,400 Hyperlink table contents, inline hyperlinks, hella bookmarks 971 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,240 pretty good. Yeah, it's really good. 972 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,960 I will say. Yes, there are bookmarks, there 973 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,280 are hyperlinks. There are a ton of inline 974 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,480 hyperlinks. Actually, when you are flipping 975 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,200 through the book, I didn't realize it for a while, but most 976 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:23,040 of the bolded text, a lot of the bolded text is linked, not just 977 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,440 where it has like a page number. So on page 9, it says minor 978 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,400 items, page 57. You can click on that to go to 979 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,400 page 57. But a lot of times, like for 980 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,320 example, like on page 15, the bolded word item is also 981 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,720 hyperlinked and it will take you to the items page, but it 982 00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:41,560 doesn't say it. So, but it's not all the time. 983 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,040 And there are some hyperlinks that are missing, like for 984 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:53,160 example, what did I put here? On page 11 it says threat level. 985 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,120 On page 43, that hyperlink is broken. 986 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,520 Sometimes on the same page, item will be hyperlinked and then 987 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,480 item will be hyperlinked and then item won't be hyperlinked. 988 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,600 So I mean the hyperlinked shit, you know, just because one or 989 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,640 two are missing doesn't, you know, I don't think that really 990 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,640 takes anything away. I just noticed that. 991 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,640 But one thing I will say is if you are going to put that many 992 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,520 hyperlinks in your document, which everyone should do, thank 993 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,520 you so much for doing that. For the ones that don't have 994 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,600 page numbers, like make the PDF version slightly different where 995 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,560 you just make a note in the beginning that says bolded words 996 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,400 are hyperlinked or most bolded words are hyperlinked. 997 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,000 It's great to have PDF tools like like linking and 998 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,040 hyperlinking and everything, but if most people aren't used to 999 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:40,640 having them and you spend the time to make them, let people 1000 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,120 know that they're there. Because like I said, I didn't 1001 00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,440 know for a while that a lot of the bolded stuff was hyperlinked 1002 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,000 until I happened to accidentally roll over 1 and it was like oh 1003 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,840 fuck this is so hyperlinked. I ain't no till right now so. 1004 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,040 So just just make a little note in the beginning, if you do do 1005 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,160 that much work to hyperlink your document that says document is 1006 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,160 hyperlinked, you know, there's a couple other things. 1007 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,920 This is kind of going to be like the errors we notice section on 1008 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,200 page 11. Man, we're beating up on page 11 1009 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,160 a little bit. It talks about what you need. 1010 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:21,920 Oh, wait, oh, page 2, sorry. And one of the things it says 1011 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,000 you need is the arena booklet. I think maybe at some point the 1012 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,640 arenas were going to be in like a separate book, but they're in 1013 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,320 this book. So I don't think there is an 1014 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,600 arena booklet. I could be wrong, but I do 1015 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,680 believe that that might have been like a held a holdover from 1016 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,040 maybe like a previous draft. And then I brought it up 1017 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,760 already, but on page 21 where it talks about activities, players 1018 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,040 do activities and like the GM does moves and the arena does 1019 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,080 moves. There is I think maybe two or 1020 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,200 three times in the book where it talks about player activities as 1021 00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,920 moves when it usually talks about it is activities. 1022 00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,160 And I do like the separation there. 1023 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,640 I think players doing activities and arenas doing moves and stuff 1024 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,360 is good. I think that it's hard. 1025 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,840 I understand it's hard sometimes to not be like using the hunker 1026 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,440 down move as opposed to the player activity, but that's just 1027 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,040 something I noticed there. Rule set. 1028 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,560 Why don't you give me your your takes on some of the rule set 1029 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,640 stuff? Because mine's kind of long. 1030 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:25,360 Yeah, solid and slim. You know, I, I would like to. 1031 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,200 Find them in high school. Hey clear wording with the skill 1032 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:36,880 check DC there it on page 11 it had am I right? 1033 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,920 Yeah. It has a skill check DC and it 1034 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,600 says that it is usually 4 but could be harder. 1035 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,400 How hard does it get? Does it go up to just five or 1036 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,240 does it go up to six? Does it go up to seven? 1037 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,560 Like how hard does it get mostly in in love roll over games that 1038 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,240 you see they'll be like, you know, AD 20 games like, Oh yeah, 1039 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,160 10s easy, twelves, whatever, fourteens hard or whatever. 1040 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,840 It'd be cool to have a little more context there, but mine can 1041 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,600 play. Yeah, I I definitely think where 1042 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,760 this game shines the hardest rule set wise is the is like the 1043 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,640 the arena like set up and moves and the player moves. 1044 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,600 Like that is like very much the core of the dice mechanic is 1045 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,640 cool and it is good for this because it's pretty much all you 1046 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,880 need. But like, that is not the focal 1047 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,600 point of what makes this like a really cool experience. 1048 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:31,920 Yeah, yeah, I completely agree. So yeah, the cool rules, the 1049 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,560 skill check is really straightforward, but I don't 1050 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:34,680 think you need really more than that. 1051 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,000 I think it's it's light, it's clever. 1052 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,360 It's basically just like a an attribute check. 1053 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,120 But getting to add that little bit of like dice pool rollover 1054 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:49,240 mechanic to it, I think is neat. It's I, I thought it was really 1055 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,160 interesting that this is a death game where you're literally like 1056 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,960 fighting to the death with other people, but it is not a combat 1057 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,240 game. You do not have HP. 1058 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,560 There is no like combat role. There's no real I guess 1059 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,560 sometimes there's like combat abilities, quote UN quote, but 1060 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,760 they're all narrative. Like at no point, like you can 1061 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,880 do a polls check or whatever, but even then it's still 1062 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:14,120 narrative. You know you don't have like. 1063 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:19,600 You know, you don't have like a knife and do an attack roll 1064 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,600 TO/6HP off of somebody, you know what I mean? 1065 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,040 I thought it was really interesting that the way they 1066 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:28,840 did a death game with no real combat, which is cool. 1067 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,200 I like that a lot. I do. 1068 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,840 Too And the moves you talked about that a lot. 1069 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,800 So for anyone that watches this show on the show, you know, I 1070 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,320 fucking hate moves, but I like the way that moves are in this 1071 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:44,520 game and why do I like this version of moves? 1072 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,280 And it kind of helped me crystallize what I don't like 1073 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:51,200 about other moves, especially moves in Pbta or I I think 1074 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,720 specifically probably in in Pbta because blades does stuff a 1075 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,760 little bit different, but I mean, still, you know, does some 1076 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:56,920 shit and we beat up on blades enough. 1077 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,760 No, I'll do. It. 1078 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,840 Again, so basically the way these moves work are the way 1079 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,680 that we like moves when they're like abilities or something, 1080 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:10,720 right? It zooms out from the like kind 1081 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,320 of like from the player level back one. 1082 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,880 It's kind of the same some way I feel about like narrative 1083 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,520 skirmish games to to role-playing games, but it it 1084 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,280 zooms out one level. So when you're doing a player 1085 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,080 activity or there's like an arena move, because the player 1086 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,800 activities are just moves, but we call them player activities 1087 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,360 because it I think it's better to call them that in the thing 1088 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:35,600 it you're it, it's never down to this thing that you're doing. 1089 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,560 You're not doing a specific task. 1090 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,480 And then that has to then link up to a move, which then gives 1091 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,840 you a series of things you can do. 1092 01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,800 Like the one of the things I dislike about moves is how you 1093 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,840 have this infinite amount of choice and then suddenly it 1094 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,200 narrows down to this tiny little bottleneck of like the move. 1095 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,080 Mechanics you can push. Yeah, the pick list or the mix 1096 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,960 success section or whatever, it narrows it down to this very 1097 01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,720 tiny little thing and then opens up afterwards. 1098 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,160 What this does for moves is really, it's more, I don't say 1099 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:07,960 meta, but it's more it's setting up a scene or doing like a group 1100 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,360 activity or something. It, it's, it's moving their 1101 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,280 narrative forward in a way that, like I said, isn't, isn't 1102 01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,640 narrowing down one individual players role-playing to a, a, a 1103 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,200 specific little bottleneck. It is, it is moving the 1104 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,760 narrative forward. And he's like larger things. 1105 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,080 Like again, you, you pick an activity to set a scene, you do 1106 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,800 a move to, to, to push the narrative forward. 1107 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,520 It's zoomed out one level, I think from, like I said, from a 1108 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,960 specific individual player task to more like the game narrative 1109 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,400 moving forward. And I really like that. 1110 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,080 This is how I like moves that we've talked about using moves 1111 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:45,560 as special abilities or something and stuff like that. 1112 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,920 Same kind of thing. You're not using it to narrow 1113 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:52,960 your RP or the choices you have, you're using it as a thing that 1114 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,600 pushes things forward. I hope I'm explaining that okay, 1115 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,040 because some PTA head is gonna come in and be like what? 1116 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:00,640 The moves move saying forward too. 1117 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,040 Understand what I'm saying and. Fuck that person just before you 1118 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,440 leave that comment. Yeah, the arena board is really 1119 01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,800 neat. I think what's interesting about 1120 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,080 this is I feel like it leans way more into procedures than rules. 1121 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,760 And I think that's what you're talking about with yes, yeah, 1122 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,720 the running the game procedures, the arena board, procedures, 1123 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,720 like all of the kind of stuff. Obviously procedures are just 1124 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,400 also rules. They're just specialized rules. 1125 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,680 But I do think it leans more into the procedure side than the 1126 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,080 rule side. Saying that as in like not the 1127 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:37,560 skill check, AKA that rule. It is the making the board, 1128 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,000 setting the scene, figuring out the gimmick, like the procedure 1129 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:40,920 stuff. And I, I like that. 1130 01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,040 I think that's really great. And I think that is one way that 1131 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:47,960 they made it less of a they made it not a combat game by making 1132 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,560 by leaning it all into procedures. 1133 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:52,680 And yeah, I think it's I think it's clean. 1134 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,360 I think all of that reinforces the the theme. 1135 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,720 And I think that we missed from Ether Ryke last week is I feel 1136 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:02,120 like this dice mechanic, the procedures involved lean into 1137 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,600 the game where I really felt like, I think we decided near 1138 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,560 the end, like why? Why did it always feel off a 1139 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,880 little bit? It's because I feel like you 1140 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,240 could have just ripped the game right off Ether Ryke and it 1141 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:16,320 would have changed anything that it wasn't really or yeah. 1142 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:21,480 So I think this one feeds into the system a little bit better. 1143 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,360 Like, it, it, it it reinforces the themes better. 1144 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,200 Yeah. So originality. 1145 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,000 It's definitely genre emulation, but it yeah, yeah, it. 1146 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:40,080 But it leans in hard, doesn't try to not be that, and does it 1147 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:44,000 in a really interesting way. What are your thoughts? 1148 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:50,360 Yeah, I think yeah, it is genre emulation pretty hard and like I 1149 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,720 like the mechanics of this game. None of them are super original, 1150 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,320 though they all do work really well. 1151 01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:01,960 I think that the I don't know, I don't know many like talking 1152 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,280 about originality and like this being a game. 1153 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,960 I don't know of many like death game. 1154 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,680 I know funnel adventures but none of that like set up like 1155 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:18,440 like a squid games or like like game Ified like death game I 1156 01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,840 can't think of I can think of 1. Well, there was the other one 1157 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,240 that also came out around the same time called Deathmatch 1158 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,200 Island, which we're gonna go over soon. 1159 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,480 That's the one which is the one. Yeah. 1160 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,960 Yeah. It's very much felt like a, like 1161 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,480 a, like a, oh, you know, when like bug's life and then ants 1162 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:37,560 came out. You know what I mean? 1163 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,360 Like there's always like, you know, when Nemo came out and 1164 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,960 then like that fish movie came out, like when these are both 1165 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,520 coming out. On the same time as Nemo. 1166 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,680 Yeah, there it has like Angelina Jolie is like a sexy fish and 1167 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,200 shit, There's like the sharks. Is that shark tail? 1168 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,880 Probably shark tail yeah, it it felt kind of like this because I 1169 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,960 think they both kind of came out roughly around the same ish 1170 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,400 time. So it very much was just like, 1171 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,600 oh, we had two death games but yeah, so that's on the list to 1172 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,520 do as well. I I wanted to do both 1173 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,160 back-to-back, but it's not going to work out that way. 1174 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,560 They're probably going to be separated by. 1175 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,320 I love the use of of a board and these kind of game boarding 1176 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,760 procedures, but in like a tabletop RPG like that's 1177 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,840 definitely a massive strength of the originality here. 1178 01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,880 There are a couple other games we've gone over that done this. 1179 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:27,280 I think what is the the hard driving racing game? 1180 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,160 Yes, Torque is a great example that uses kind of board game 1181 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:34,440 setup. There's a couple other ones, but 1182 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,480 like, it's not often done and I think it's like a potential area 1183 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,000 of strength for especially game like this, yeah. 1184 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,000 Yeah, I can believe. It I think. 1185 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,600 Yeah, I think there's, I mean I think there's a lot of like 1186 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,320 wannabe intelligence to people in the TRPG space that wanna be 1187 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,040 like video games. You can't use anything in video 1188 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,520 games. You can't use anything for board 1189 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,360 games. You can't do it TRPG or it's own 1190 01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:00,760 magic which is just bad and stupid and when you do kind of 1191 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,000 lean into some other things, you can make things great like 1192 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,680 Torque or like this game. So it's. 1193 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,400 Funny that so many of those things, video games, other forms 1194 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:14,640 of game take direct inspiration from like the original, like OD 1195 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,840 and D, like tabletop RPG kind of era. 1196 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,400 But now it's like, we can't do, we can't reverse that at all. 1197 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,280 We can't, we can't take anything from the art form that's taken 1198 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,680 from this. You know that's wrong. 1199 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:32,760 I mean, yeah, ridiculous, but I also think that video games kind 1200 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,080 of took those ideas and have run a lot farther than TT RPGs have. 1201 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,080 Yes. And I think one of the reasons 1202 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,200 is because they don't feel constrained in the same way 1203 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,040 that. Exactly. 1204 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:47,960 Like shitty discourse from 30 years ago still filters down and 1205 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:53,040 constrains people in the TG space, but that is neither here 1206 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,680 nor there. So yeah, I think the arena board 1207 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,840 aspect is a good chunk of originality that I really like a 1208 01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,840 lot. And the rotating GMs and stuff. 1209 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,960 Again the. Themes is great. 1210 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:08,760 The themes of this game are obviously genre, you know, 1211 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,560 emulation, but the way that it's done I think is really 1212 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:12,920 interesting. I, I can't think of the game 1213 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,800 that runs it like this. I think Torque might be the 1214 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:22,720 closest one value wise. So it is $18.00 PDF on both. 1215 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,960 Laurie oconnor.h.ioand12pinchpress.com 1216 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,479 If you want just the physical book only, it is $32 and if you 1217 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,319 want the full set, which is I think, I think just this, it is 1218 01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:40,960 the book, the arena board and the the Hodag Bonus arena, it is 1219 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,200 $42.00. So I think that's good value. 1220 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:46,800 That's great. It's fine. 1221 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,160 Yeah, I think 32 for the 160 plus page book is great. 1222 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:52,960 It's a soft back. I mean we're always going to 1223 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:59,000 say, you know, the $35, you know, foil cover or death in 1224 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,640 space book is always going to be like peak, you know, money wise. 1225 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:08,200 But I think there's a lot of value in this because it is it's 1226 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,240 almost the opposite to be the right in that it is an endless 1227 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,359 options of that you can make where as opposed to just like 1 1228 01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:18,040 adventure. We did do a weird flip like 1229 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:22,479 episode like the last one versus this one and like they're both 1230 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,720 both contained experiences with their own systems and like how 1231 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,760 vastly different they're achieved, you know? 1232 01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:31,920 Yeah, yeah, they are kind of almost like mirrors of each 1233 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:38,080 other to an extent. And watch both and make your own 1234 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,600 decisions and then vibes. How's the vibes bro? 1235 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,000 Honestly, pretty high. I really want to play this. 1236 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,279 I want, I want to have this at my table. 1237 01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:51,040 I want to Co run this with my group. 1238 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,160 Like, I just think it'd be a blast, you know? 1239 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,560 Yeah, I would be. We should just run. 1240 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:57,520 We should just fucking run this. Yeah, we should. 1241 01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,520 Set up an. AP It's very easy. 1242 01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,120 We could just do this and pull in two or three more people and 1243 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,280 have a. We literally just have, yeah, 1244 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,760 four people and then everyone would just run. 1245 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,320 And it's not like we need to find AGM or anything, because 1246 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,160 everyone's AGM. Everyone's GM. 1247 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,240 And it's, it's not hard to run, so it wouldn't be hard, But I, 1248 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,160 yeah, I, I think vibes is pretty high on this. 1249 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,520 I love this genre. I think any of the I love 1250 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,520 watching death game animes the the, you know, battle Royale, 1251 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,240 the movie was, was that's my shit. 1252 01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:29,120 You know, I'm not a big horror fan. 1253 01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:33,360 I but I'm a big gore fan. Like I would much rather watch 1254 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,280 martyrs than like the actual, you know what I mean? 1255 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,240 Like, you know, I I I like slashers not and not even 1256 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,720 slashers. It's like glory fucked up shit 1257 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,720 and and battle Royale was great. Any of this shit is great. 1258 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,440 I really loved Alison borderline anime. 1259 01:10:49,440 --> 01:10:50,960 I think they did a good adaptation of that. 1260 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,680 So this is cool. That's cool. 1261 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,680 I'm excited to talk to death about deathmatch island because 1262 01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,480 it does something this in a in a different way. 1263 01:10:58,480 --> 01:10:59,600 So we'll go over that eventually. 1264 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:04,720 But yeah, vibes, vibes are good. So why don't we hop into the 1265 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,640 scoring? Actually, all of the metrics 1266 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,840 that I just talked about, so again, for books, it's five. 1267 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,800 We're going to do art and layout, usability, rule set, 1268 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,120 originality and value. We've already talked about all 1269 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:18,520 of them. So we can pretty much just bang 1270 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,320 out the scores we're going to get for this. 1271 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:25,920 So art and layout, So between Luke and Hodag, the art and the 1272 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,360 layout, what are your thoughts on this last week, if we're 1273 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,000 compared to either, right, they got a hard 10. 1274 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:31,760 So what are we talking about here? 1275 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,120 I'm, I'm pretty high on this one too. 1276 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,160 I think it's pretty good. I'm pretty like I'm between the 1277 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:40,080 seven and eight, I think. Feel like I'm also between A7 1278 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:48,440 and AN8I mean, I think the layout, the layout really shines 1279 01:11:48,440 --> 01:11:50,840 in this. And I think the art, the art is 1280 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,680 really good, but I think it's made better by the layout, if 1281 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,520 that makes sense. Like I love the way like this 1282 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,280 page, for example, real quick introduction page. 1283 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:03,080 There's that slash that they use of the entire book and then the 1284 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,680 art is tucked into like that slash. 1285 01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,480 And they do that repeatedly in the book, like the very next 1286 01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:12,080 page where the slash has stuff on one side but then becomes art 1287 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:16,440 on the other. And there's, yeah, at times 1288 01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:18,840 where they don't even have like a border separation. 1289 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:25,080 They just have art that is that that fills that space. 1290 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,920 I'm trying to think of a page that did it. 1291 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,960 But I think, I think they both work really well together. 1292 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,800 I don't know. I probably lean 8. 1293 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,920 I think I'm leaning 8 too. Yeah, I think this is really 1294 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,760 clean, really beautiful layout. I don't think it's got like a 1295 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,920 like it doesn't have like the bells and whistles of like a 1296 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,320 Mark Borg, but I think the layout is like super clean, 1297 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,920 super readable and the Hodag art just kills all the time. 1298 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,280 I do not need the bells and whistle whistles of a Mark Borg. 1299 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,960 So I will say also, like, when you held up the book, I love 1300 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,280 that the book really looks like a graphic novel. 1301 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:01,560 Yeah. I mean like. 1302 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,120 It does it. Super feels like a graphic novel 1303 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,440 and I love that. I think it's so great. 1304 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:13,200 OK, the art layout 8. Yeah, usability pretty high in 1305 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,080 this. I mean, they got a ton of, I 1306 01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,600 mean they have all the digital tools that we want, which is 1307 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,040 really fantastic. You get the arena board PDF or 1308 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:23,200 physical? Yeah. 1309 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,840 Trackable stuff on the board notes and other things like it's 1310 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,040 super usable. Yeah, I don't think that really 1311 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,680 there's like I think the sections are all in a really 1312 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:37,920 easy way. I don't even mind character 1313 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:43,880 creation being before rules on this because the rules are so 1314 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:49,320 the core skill check is so light you don't really need any more. 1315 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,320 And they give you rules during character creation like like the 1316 01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,000 the dice, you know, deviation, stuff like that. 1317 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,280 Yeah, character creations like two or three pages normally like 1318 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,000 we say we like to get dice mechanic and then character 1319 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,360 creation and then the rest of the rules. 1320 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,080 I think it reads really well. And when I was going through the 1321 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:09,880 running the game section, it's laid out in such a good order 1322 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,080 that it really explains the flow because for a while I was like, 1323 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:14,760 well, why is this part here? And I'm like, well, because I 1324 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,720 didn't need, I honestly didn't need that information until 1325 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,240 there like the whole how to section. 1326 01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:21,200 I was like, well, why is the how to section before like this 1327 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,520 arena stuff or whatever, I'm like, because I needed to know 1328 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,440 how to do that shit before I really needed that other stuff. 1329 01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:26,240 So I think I. Agree. 1330 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:27,880 I think the section's great, so yeah. 1331 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,360 I think it's sectioned out really, really well. 1332 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,000 So and it has all the digital tools we want. 1333 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:35,840 So what are you thinking? I don't know, like what does you 1334 01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,880 know? I think an 8 only because like I 1335 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,520 think 9 and above you need like numbered sections. 1336 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,600 And like, yeah, it's crazy. It goes above already had eight 1337 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,280 in there. I'm so glad that like 99% of the 1338 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,400 time we are within like .5 of each other. 1339 01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:51,240 Like we're rarely more than like a point which. 1340 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,120 We yelled at each other, really raised our horses. 1341 01:14:54,440 --> 01:14:57,880 Yeah, you know, I mean, I never do that, so that'd be weird. 1342 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:03,240 Rule set, rule set. So it's interesting. 1343 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:08,520 Like I said, I mean procedures are rules, but the core mechanic 1344 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,240 it's simple. But I think I don't I can't. 1345 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,640 Here's The thing is I can't think of anything else I would 1346 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,680 want to add. And I think even adding in like 1347 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:20,800 rations, like really, really puts it at like if you use 1348 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,320 ration rule. I can't think of anything else I 1349 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,720 would want because it would start to get complicated. 1350 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,280 And the game is pretty quick. Like it's it's meant to move 1351 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,280 fast. I'm not a big like this 1352 01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,360 obviously isn't like APBTA or like a like a Blades in the dark 1353 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,760 kind of thing. Yeah, but I feel like it uses 1354 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,600 some of the bones of that a little bit like the moves. 1355 01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:47,000 It's it's like a it's a story game, which is weird because 1356 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,160 like it feels like it's a combat game, but it's not. 1357 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,400 I like, I really like it. I I think it's really, really 1358 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,400 well done. There's the thing that I've been 1359 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,880 tossing around in the background a little bit and I think like 1360 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,400 this does that well. And I'll probably Jack some 1361 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,640 stuff from this when I want to do that, but I can't think of 1362 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,200 any like rules that I would want to change. 1363 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,520 And I think like what they do with the arenas and and the way 1364 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,080 they explain it all is is is really good. 1365 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:09,880 What do you? I agree. 1366 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,120 There's just like there's nothing in this that I feel like 1367 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,960 is like really missing and there's also nothing in this 1368 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,560 that I feel like is incredibly unnecessary. 1369 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,520 This is like getting really dialed in experience. 1370 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:29,200 I enjoy the procedures. I'm pretty high on what you 1371 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,160 know. You, you talk first, you give 1372 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,680 your number first. This time I'm. 1373 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,720 Probably about an 8 on this. I'm also probably about an 8 on 1374 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,200 this. This might be across the board, 1375 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,240 which is a respectful. Place to be might be. 1376 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,560 Well, actually. All right, originality. 1377 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,440 So we talked about this already. It's it's pure genre emulation, 1378 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,520 which is not a that is not a bad word. 1379 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,680 Those aren't bad words. It's fine to just do a thing and 1380 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,960 do it really well. And I think this thing not only 1381 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:57,520 does the thing once again leans in super hard to the thing to be 1382 01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,280 the thing and does the thing really fucking well. 1383 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,240 Like any part of this, you literally go I, I feel like I'm 1384 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,880 playing like Allison Borland, like I feel like I'm in battle 1385 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,840 Royale. Like it's not bad to do genre 1386 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,880 emulation when you do it so fucking good. 1387 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,280 I think the arena board procedures and everything like 1388 01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,280 that really has a lot of good originality. 1389 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,760 Really ties a lot of stuff in and really takes all of the 1390 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,480 things that I'm not a fan of with PPTA importance in the dark 1391 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:30,120 and converts him into the ways that work better in my brain. 1392 01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:33,080 Like it uses moves the way I want moves. 1393 01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,520 It uses like narrative and story game and the way that I want 1394 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,240 narrative and story game. So it's it's it's good. 1395 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,560 What about? You. 1396 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,160 Yeah. I mean, I just, I don't have a 1397 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,000 lot to add to that. Yeah. 1398 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:47,400 I don't know if I'm an aid on this though. 1399 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,400 I don't. I don't think I have an aid on 1400 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:54,360 this though, so I think I'm a good seven. 1401 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,560 All right, 7's what I already had in there. 1402 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:02,920 Look at US value. I think it's. 1403 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,640 Appropriately priced. Yeah, I think it is 1404 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,240 appropriately priced. I would be fine paying $18.00 1405 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,640 for the PDF of this. I would be fine paying $42.00 1406 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,560 for all of this. I don't remember what my pledge 1407 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,920 on Kickstarter was. I did get the, like I said, the 1408 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,760 art print too. So. 1409 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,000 But yeah, I think that's it. And I think there's good value 1410 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,240 in the replayability, which again is kind of like the 1411 01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:28,840 opposite of Eat the Right. You're paying 30 something 1412 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,160 dollars to play it like one time with the same group of people. 1413 01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:34,360 We're really taking a shot meet the right to that. 1414 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:35,320 I mean, it's very. It's not. 1415 01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,880 Shots, it's just, it's just, I mean, yeah, but it's just 1416 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,720 different. It's I mean, we have to have 1417 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,680 like a a comparison, you know? Yeah, I agree. 1418 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:46,920 But, but I don't think it doesn't blow me out of the 1419 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,040 fucking water, you know what I mean? 1420 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,920 So value, I mean there's replayability, I think that adds 1421 01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,640 to it. We it's about an average price. 1422 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,840 So I'm a six to seven on this. Yeah, I'm at a six to seven on 1423 01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,040 this. I can only assume. 1424 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:06,400 I don't know. There's no third party license 1425 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,080 kind of information in here, so I don't know if I could like 1426 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:10,680 hack it without doing the whole thing. 1427 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,920 I think that kind of might have been the difference between 6:00 1428 01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,360 and 7:00 to me. Maybe like a six, I guess. 1429 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:18,520 I mean, 5 is fine. 5 means something is bang average, not 1430 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,320 good or bad. I think this is slightly better 1431 01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,880 because I think there is value in the replayability I I did I I 1432 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,440 mean there are five arenas that you get to start with it too, 1433 01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:30,640 though. I think that does that a little 1434 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,760 bit of value too. Let's just go 7. 1435 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,400 I'm a 5 to 7 on this. I think having not only having 1436 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,120 the four that are in the book but the bonus Hodag fucking 1437 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,120 hysterical 1 is great. The. 1438 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:45,040 Hodag one's fucking great. I really, really think that 1439 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,400 one's so funny. So we're going to go 7 on that. 1440 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:55,000 So across the board, we got 24 + 14 gives us a 38. 1441 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,960 You know what's so funny? That is the exact same score as 1442 01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,560 either, right? Yeah, maybe either actually 1443 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,120 lower. No, I mean, But here's the 1444 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:03,520 thing, and this is what we always say. 1445 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:08,080 The total score matters much less than the individual scores 1446 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,280 that matter to you, right? If you don't give a fuck about 1447 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,800 originality, then a 38, it doesn't mean anything because 1448 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,560 seven of those points don't fucking mean anything to you, 1449 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:16,520 right? If you're not worried about 1450 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,880 value, if you're not worried about stuff, look at the things 1451 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,480 that matter to you. When you look at something like 1452 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:25,640 for example, ether right got a hard 10 in art and layout, but 1453 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,840 had like I think I think maybe a 6IN in value or something like 1454 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,680 that. So 2 scores can be 30 eights 1455 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,360 while being very different spreads of numbers. 1456 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,880 So the total score is good, kind of like for us kind of like in 1457 01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:43,640 the in the context of things. But you know, we've also had 1458 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,760 games that are like eights all the way down the board. 1459 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,000 And then we've also had games that had like two 10's and three 1460 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,640 sixes. So which game would you rather, 1461 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,000 you know, look at? So I think this is exactly 1462 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:57,400 basically where I thought this would be. 1463 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:58,960 I think this is really fun and interesting game. 1464 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,520 I want to play it. It's really neat. 1465 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,760 Much like all of Lori's stuff. Their stuff is really 1466 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,040 incredible. So I was really clever. 1467 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,480 Again, Hieronymus is fantastic. I'm excited for full send once 1468 01:21:09,480 --> 01:21:12,280 again. Check out full send over on 1469 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:13,760 Kickstarter. We'll make sure that the links 1470 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,920 are below and I'll make sure that this episode is out within 1471 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:18,760 the 11 days that I think are left in it. 1472 01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:22,320 But if you you like narrative, if you like tarot based 1473 01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,200 narrative games, if you like mountaineering, if you like 1474 01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:27,920 interesting mechanics about personal journeys and stuff, I 1475 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,160 think Folsen is a really, really neat game. 1476 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,160 Like I said, I got to check out the draft version of it. 1477 01:21:33,480 --> 01:21:35,760 It's really cool. I was very excited for it as a 1478 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,360 climber and as a TRPG or it's really fun. 1479 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:43,960 So that is us. Catch us tomorrow. 1480 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:46,360 Guess what, this will not be out before tomorrow. 1481 01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:52,400 So check out the episode after this where the where the the 1482 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:57,480 rumpus boys, the rump boys are back for some for some rumpus. 1483 01:21:57,480 --> 01:22:00,400 Tomorrow. We're having the the gents back 1484 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:06,560 on for Rumpus Part 2. And on Sunday we are going to 1485 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,320 have jerk back on for our not cat chats. 1486 01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:13,000 We didn't have an episode last month because it's like the 1487 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:14,760 first time they've ever not had a release. 1488 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,080 They got to take a month off. So we're going to have them back 1489 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,440 on the show. Did you get? 1490 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,360 Your break so. Did you get your? 1491 01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:24,600 Did you get your thing already? I don't know if I got that one 1492 01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,800 yet. Well, you need to get that. 1493 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,080 I didn't. Get that one yet? 1494 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,320 Well I got it days ago so make sure you don't have a slip in 1495 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,440 your fucking box again. Perfect dude. 1496 01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,360 Can you please sign up for USPS informed delivery? 1497 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:37,640 It'll just let you know that it's there. 1498 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:39,480 It's free. It tells you. 1499 01:22:39,480 --> 01:22:41,160 Sure, Yeah. Sign up. 1500 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,800 I'll talk to you about it after. Anyway, check those episodes 1501 01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,320 out. And then we have some other fun 1502 01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:49,680 stuff coming up this month. Some APS, much, many fewer 1503 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:53,760 interviews. And and that is us for today. 1504 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,120 Thank you so much for being here. 1505 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,800 Go back full send and we will talk to you all later. 1506 01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,160 Bye. Bye.