1 00:00:15,550 --> 00:00:17,510 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll Podcast. 2 00:00:17,510 --> 00:00:21,190 My name is Ryan. And I'm a man, Bat Batman. 3 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:29,000 And today we're actually doing a review, which when I look back 4 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,520 and and and checked out our episodes, we haven't done one in 5 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,960 quite a while. And we're going to be looking at 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:40,880 Eat the Reich from Grant Howitz of Rowan, Rook and Deckard, A 7 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,320 tipper top role-playing game in which you, a vampire commando, 8 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,640 are coffin dropped into occupied Paris and must cut a bloody 9 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,600 swath through Nazi forces and route to your ultimate goal, 10 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,240 drinking all of Adolf Hitler's blood. 11 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,240 Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 12 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:05,600 Yeah, I usually have to like dial in like the that part, that 13 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,240 copy right there for people. Nope, stole that right from the 14 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,360 website because they actually put out good copy for their 15 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,760 shit. That's a great one, really. 16 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,800 Well, good for that. You know what's, you know what's 17 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,080 funny? I feel like me and Clayton, you, 18 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,160 you, you weren't there for the Clayton no sign episode. 19 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,600 Great episode. It was like 2 1/2 hours long. 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,560 We really, we really ripped into the innies, which I was really 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,880 happy about, but we were talking about now we're talking about a 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,280 bunch of stuff. And I think what I'm back on and 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,440 basically do like a, a guide to being a creator. 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:43,600 And he, he, he really went in talking about how to e-mail a 25 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,160 creator, like e-mail them like they're a real person. 26 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:51,320 Don't just copy paste shit. But what I want is shit like 27 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,960 this where I'm like, please, when you do the copy on your 28 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,120 itch page, make it just copy pasteable for reviewers so they 29 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,520 don't have to like do a bunch of work just to communicate your 30 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,400 vision. You know, like give me a line, 31 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,080 give me one line on what the fuck your game is. 32 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,640 You know, my like it is tabletop role-playing game where you do 33 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:15,480 this, you know, but but yeah, we're, we're we're doing eat the 34 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,680 right today and gosh, you haven't been on, did we? 35 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,920 You didn't do an episode last week. 36 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:23,840 I've done like 3 since then. Got another. 37 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,920 Yeah, we, we, we talked about not doing interviews anymore and 38 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:30,560 somehow we're doing like 8 in like a two week period or at 39 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,240 least. I'm doing I'm. 40 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,920 Doing a lot of well, your schedule sucks right now. 41 00:02:34,920 --> 00:02:36,640 So, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm doing a, I'm going. 42 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Back to school y'all I'm. I'm a college girl, so. 43 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,320 We love educated girly. We do, yeah, but. 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:47,880 Yeah, what else? What else? 45 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:49,600 What what? What else are you and up to 46 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:51,360 buddy? Nothing. 47 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,800 You know, I it's kind of end of the summer season here, so I've 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,680 been picking up some extra shifts at work to help pay for 49 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,880 some stuff and save up for because we're going to have to 50 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,640 move after this lease is up in October. 51 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,400 So that not out of town. I mean, just like to do a 52 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,000 different place. So I haven't really been on the 53 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,600 river. And then the past. 54 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,800 Oh, you know what, as I say, the past four weeks, my tabletop 55 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,600 group is cancelled. We did actually play last week 56 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:23,160 and we started the drain mothership playing the drain and 57 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,960 doing well so far. I don't know, I feel like every 58 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,760 time I run a funnel adventure, I feel fine about it and I can't 59 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,720 seem to get a table. I've run several at this point 60 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:39,040 that really loves like the like the kind of meta behind the 61 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,600 funnel adventure, which is who can have the most glorious 62 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,600 death. You know, like every time they 63 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,920 die, they're like, oh, I'm like, that's what this is. 64 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,080 What the fuck are you doing? Where did you have 20 guys in 65 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,080 your party? Like send somebody skyrocketing 66 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,120 inside. Actually, that's not true. 67 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,480 Sean is really funny about it. My roommate Sean, he laughs 68 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,280 about it. He's actually really if I could 69 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,200 have 5 Sean's at the table, it'd be hilarious. 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,360 So why? Don't are you doing cool stuff 71 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,680 when they died to really to really like stamp in a sheet, 72 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,560 tearing it up, setting it on fire like. 73 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,440 No, I wasn't for this one because the drain leads right 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,920 into meat grinder which is an adventure in hell and if they 75 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,000 die in that adventure like a new people are like born into hell 76 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,080 like going in the house. I was going to let them bring 77 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,120 back their other funnel adventure characters. 78 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,640 That's why you secretly make copies beforehand and tear them 79 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,440 up and then when they come back hand them it. 80 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,840 But you printed it out on a red piece of paper. 81 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:39,880 Oh, that would've been way better. 82 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,920 Next time I run this, which I probably will run this again for 83 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,040 another group at some point, I will absolutely do. 84 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,440 It's a good idea, so. Well, hey, maybe we'll talk 85 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,600 about it sometime on the show. Yeah, totally. 86 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,160 We should, yeah. And maybe half the episode won't 87 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,440 be me just blacking out and ranting for 30 minutes, you 88 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,560 know? Why would it be? 89 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,120 When has that ever happened? Hey, I will say, I will say our 90 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,360 audience retention on that episode is one of the best we've 91 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,240 ever had. Which episode are we talking 92 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,840 about right now? The Barrow. 93 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:11,400 The only adventure we've ever. Done where we did 30 minutes. 94 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:16,920 Of adventure and 30 minutes of me just like ranting people Some 95 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,080 people seem to like it or at. Least the Barrow of the elf 96 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,560 king. I think that's a really cool. 97 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,960 I meant the ranting, but also, yes, Barrow of the Elf King is a 98 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,640 fire adventure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 99 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:28,040 What are? You. 100 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,240 What's up with you? What's new? 101 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:33,200 How's life? So I, I've been, I, I was 102 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,680 holding off kind of on mini, not holding off on mini painting. 103 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,680 I have a bunch of projects in my mind to do miniature stuff for. 104 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,240 And then I ordered a bunch of 3D print shit for it, a lot of some 105 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,200 of it custom and stuff. I should show you. 106 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,760 I should show you this dude on Etsy can like make anything. 107 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Oh yeah, you should send me it because I'm. 108 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,360 Yeah. The shoulder pads are fire 109 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,280 basically I I got them to basically make every night 110 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:00,800 Lord's shoulder pad from like the black books heraldry. 111 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,840 So I have like 10 different night Lord shoulder pads which 112 00:06:02,840 --> 00:06:05,800 are fire. And then set of all is this an 113 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,560 incredible creator that a lot of people unlike the grim dark part 114 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,280 of warhammer are making like saturnines and true scale 115 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:15,000 marines from? I sent him the shoulder pad STL 116 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:21,640 for that and he put like a big 3D like like like winged skull 117 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,680 popping off on that. So I because my idea is to do a 118 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:32,040 full true scale kill team. So he made these dope ass night 119 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,320 lowered shoulder pads for the true scale set of all range. 120 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,600 So they're incredible. But so a lot of those came in. 121 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,360 But I've been talking to Andy, Evil Andy, nicest guy ever, 122 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,400 best. Guy, I miss evil Andy, I miss 123 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,560 when we played adventures with them. 124 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,720 Yeah, he, we got our mouth back on the show sooner than later, 125 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,800 but Horse FC 3 Point O came out finally chatted with him, pulled 126 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,440 out the books and been putting my army together. 127 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,760 At least the army lists together so I can actually start building 128 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,360 the army. Yeah, it's there's a lot of 129 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,600 fucking people. So I've been collecting stuff. 130 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,040 I spent a couple of different minutes. 131 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,240 In total, your army be army be at the end. 132 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,400 At the end, it's somewhere between 80 and 90 units. 133 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,560 OK, that's. It's a lot. 134 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,560 So that's a few but. Also what I what I I so I was 135 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,600 keep bashing this prayator for a while. 136 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,520 They had these like giant lightning claws and stuff. 137 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,960 It's in the discord. I post some pictures up. 138 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,400 As soon as when I started making my army list, I realized it 139 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,200 works. I was I was just making it to 140 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,080 make a cool night Lord guy, right? 141 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,880 But it actually works. One of the high command guys is 142 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:39,680 just Prayator and you get twin lightning claws as an option for 143 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,080 it. So the guy that I made that I 144 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,200 just thought was like a dope giant fucking Night Lord's prey 145 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,400 tour is the high commander of my army. 146 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,160 So he's going to be an actual named character. 147 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,520 Yeah. He's basically like second in 148 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,960 command when, you know, Sabatar is not around. 149 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,040 Sabatar. Best character in all of 150 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,120 Warhammer? Yeah, I that sounds awesome, 151 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,480 actually, Yeah. So I've been I've been reading 152 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,280 the horse racing book. I've been reading the lieber 153 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Hereticus. I've been using new recruit to 154 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,320 build the army. I've been like putting character 155 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,880 mini society like OK this is me I'm using my herald this is me. 156 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,480 I'm going to use my console. New recruit? 157 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,120 New recruit dot EU is like a it's like an army builder 158 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,880 website. So it's got all the options in 159 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,680 and you just built Yeah, 'cause if I had to write this shit out, 160 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,880 fuck that. Yeah, totally. 161 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,600 I mean, yeah, there's a lot of other stuff going on there, but 162 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,000 that's really cool that there's like a, an E tool for it 163 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:27,800 essentially, you know? Yeah. 164 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,360 And it really makes sense. Yeah, it works pretty well. 165 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,559 It's not perfect there. Sometimes there's options there 166 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,000 that you don't really get and sometimes so you have to like be 167 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,480 like, OK, this says I have a prime slot, but I really don't 168 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,760 have a prime slot. But basically that's what I've 169 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,559 been doing. So I think I I need to find I 170 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,240 need to pick out like one more mini. 171 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,320 I have a herald as one of my three command. 172 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,200 You get a high command and you get 3 command. 173 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,280 Then you get 4 base troops and four transports. 174 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,080 It's like what you start with And I have all the minis for 175 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,560 those or, or I will because Andy's going to print me out 176 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:02,520 tanks except for I need to find the mini that I'm going to kick 177 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,680 bash to make my herald. And I might just try to find the 178 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:08,400 original forged world trader console herald. 179 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,280 But it's like 130 bucks on eBay so. 180 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,200 Right. Makes sense. 181 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,600 Yeah, I'm really interested in putting together some stuff for 182 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,640 flames, Orion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 183 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,480 'Cause like you say game, you get like 10 minis per person and 184 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,960 I'm like, that sounds fucking insane. 185 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,400 I would definitely want to do that so. 186 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,840 So you know that I have all the flames Orion STLS in the Dropbox 187 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,200 and you can. Absolutely. 188 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,920 Yeah, well. I I have AI I've been lightly 189 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,640 planning a board for it's based on. 190 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,680 Did you ever play Halo? Enough to know what Halo is, but 191 00:09:43,680 --> 00:09:44,520 not. Yeah, well, there's not. 192 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,840 A map, there's like a style of map that's on like mini Halos 193 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,320 where it's like when you get to like this military base or 194 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,240 whatever you're getting to, it's like a it's hard to describe. 195 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,720 It's like a flat top concrete with like things that go. 196 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:03,640 Cut out there buddy. Can. 197 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:09,040 You hear me now? Yeah, OK, this Mike has like 198 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,240 some bridges and some like raised areas and I think it and 199 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,200 it's all like kind of hard angles. 200 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,440 So I think it'd be easy to do. But I need to get a like a 201 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,120 heated wire color for craft foam because I was cut because I was 202 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,680 cutting it with a with a knife and I was like, this is fucking 203 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:26,320 miserable. And if the line curves at all, 204 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,320 you can't do it so. Yeah, I'm excited for you to 205 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,120 start building board because I really want to start building 206 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,960 boards too. So once you because I you know, 207 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,320 I know you paint, but like I've been mini painting. 208 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,040 So I can give you some tips as a newer painter to yeah. 209 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,600 And then when you're doing boards, when I start building my 210 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,600 board, you can give me tips back on on that. 211 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,080 You should really start listening to the high school 212 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,320 podcast because they talk. I really. 213 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,200 Should I have? I have time coming up this week. 214 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,040 I will actually listen to them. Especially Steve, the guy who 215 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:59,240 did the flames with Ryan. He talks at length about like 216 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,240 how he makes the boards and like the tips and tricks and like 217 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:07,320 gives websites and stuff to. The guy who I who is in my like 218 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,760 tabletop group that makes terrain like he loves doing it. 219 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,200 He loves hive scum. He's like, yeah, they're this to 220 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,040 them all the time. So. 221 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're again, it's a much 222 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,360 better podcast than ours. If you're listening to us, you 223 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,080 should just go listen to them. Yeah, that's all I've been 224 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,120 doing. I've been I've been painting the 225 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,040 other night I got I, I was called off work two nights ago 226 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:34,600 and and I sat down and re primed 5 test minis and did 5 new night 227 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,800 Lords color schemes trying to find the scheme that I want. 228 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,880 And I think, I think I got it. But I'm going to paint up one 229 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,720 more for some Reaper paints instead of Procurl and see if, 230 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,320 see if I like that color scheme. But Night Lords blue. 231 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,560 It's it's hard to it's hard that every everyone paints my Lords 232 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:51,600 differently versus Ultramarines, which are pretty much. 233 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Blue Blue. I made this joke earlier. 234 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,040 And if you and if you if you look at the black books like the 235 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:05,320 really early like Night Lords were almost like a a purpley 236 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,360 blue, like very lightish color. I think I've actually seen that 237 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,920 version somewhere, but yeah, yeah, I kind of. 238 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,320 And then like blue. The farther you get in the more 239 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,000 like kind of royal. They basically are Like ultra 240 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,920 rains blue by now in 40K yeah. The purple blue is good, I like 241 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:21,760 that. It's nice, it's nice. 242 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,000 So I'm gonna lean in a little bit of that. 243 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,840 Reaper Mini has this midnight, midnight sky blue, night sky 244 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,280 blue that definitely has some purple in it. 245 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,320 And I already do a purple base underneath, like the blue that I 246 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,520 put down so that the shadows underneath have like a warm 247 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,200 purple instead of like a just like black or something. 248 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,880 It looks really nice. So I'm gonna do like a purple 249 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,400 and then I'm gonna try it might be too light with a night sky 250 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,720 blue. I might do a dark blue in the 251 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,520 night sky over that with some highlights. 252 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,800 But we'll see. I might try to lean into like a 253 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,640 lightish purple and see what happens. 254 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:56,880 But anyway, yeah, just as soon as I get my color scheme down, 255 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,160 I'm gonna start whenever I have free time. 256 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,120 Just start putting fucking minis together. 257 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,680 If I didn't care about mold lines it'd be so easy, but I do. 258 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,480 So it takes you 5 times longer to put it together when you have 259 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,520 to actually scrape off the mold line to make it look nice. 260 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,240 So. Yeah, next we're going to get 261 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,400 into Gunpla and start making Gundams. 262 00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:18,240 Yeah. Woo Gundams, right? 263 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,240 Well, I think I think that's our Dick around time from the 264 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,600 beginning. So why don't we hop into? 265 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,400 I think it went. Over, but yeah. 266 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,400 But you know, it's cool we haven't we haven't actually sat 267 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,440 down for a video in a while. So I'm actually going to so eat 268 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,480 the Reich. So it's a game. 269 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,640 I actually backed it at the really like too high dub level 270 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:42,240 where I got the the fucking ammo crate of of shit. 271 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,280 There weren't a ton of these for those in podcast land. 272 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,120 You can't see this sucks for you. 273 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,400 It's just a legit real ammo crate. 274 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,880 And then it's got like Fang logo top secret, you know, written 275 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,840 all over it. It's got this mission kills 276 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,640 fascists. It's a it's a it's legit salvage 277 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,360 ammo crate. And then there's just stuff from 278 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,880 stuff from that's the book. I'm also showing the book right 279 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,600 now so I can show up this. Nice. 280 00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:19,320 It's got stuff from the game in it, so right off the bat there's 281 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,480 like a little light here that I never took the thing out of, but 282 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,720 there's stuff and then I'm just going to show the stuff on 283 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,560 screen real quick and then we'll flip through the book a tiny bit 284 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:39,880 and get going. So there is this big map of the 285 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,040 adventure space, basically Paris here. 286 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,960 And then, yeah. And then on the other side, you 287 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,960 know, it's got the mission objective and then it's got 288 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,560 basically French and German stuff that you can say. 289 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:02,240 So that's pretty cool. Make sure nothing has my like 290 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:11,320 real human name on here. There's a cool coaster man that 291 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:17,720 is very yellowish. The the white balance on here is 292 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:36,080 not great. I say that they immediately go 293 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,440 silent so that you all know that I just fucked around and Hunter 294 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,720 walked away. So you can't really see. 295 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,560 But so it's got this coaster, which is pretty dope. 296 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,920 And then on the back is like a like map meeting area. 297 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,440 So it's as if you were in the bar and someone like slids you a 298 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,880 coaster. And it's got like a secret 299 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,240 meeting area on the back and it has like the password and shit 300 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,720 on it, which is pretty fucking cool. 301 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,920 It's got a steak, which is interesting because you play as 302 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,680 vampires, but this is an emergency stake issued in case 303 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,120 of catastrophic failure of moral fortitude or imminent capture. 304 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,600 So basically. And then there's instructions on 305 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,760 how to kill yourself with the stake. 306 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,080 So this is basically the vampire cyanide pill I guess, except 307 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,120 there's. Garlic pills in the. 308 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Yeah, so there's a stake, there's a candle that's got some 309 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,440 other. It is Our Lady of Perpetual 310 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,480 Ruin. It's a candle from them which is 311 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,200 the people that give you the blood in your drop coffins. 312 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:40,800 So that's their there's a dog tag for Flint which is one of 313 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,400 the characters in the in the thing. 314 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,400 So it literally is like if found returned to Fang HQ. 315 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,560 So they literally went to like the fucking, you know, like 316 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,080 PetSmart and made the fucking Fang dog tags, Yeah. 317 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:58,080 I mean, that's a, that's a that's a like actual, not army 318 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,120 dog tag, but tag you put on your dog, an actual dog because Flint 319 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,240 is the Flint is the man bat creature. 320 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,800 Yeah. And you get a dog tag for him. 321 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,640 But again, it's a pink bone shaped dog tag, not military. 322 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:17,599 Like, yeah, there's this cool like necklace situation, which I 323 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:22,760 think is again, like a lot of these are all pertaining to the 324 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,960 characters and stuff like that. Yeah, there is. 325 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:34,080 What is this? This is a fancy cigarette holder 326 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,560 because Irina, I think is the smoker. 327 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:47,280 Yeah, man, if I still. Oh, there is the metal coin that 328 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:52,760 comes with it, which is cool. There is. 329 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,240 I took this out of the plastic before but I don't want to do it 330 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,560 now. There's a lot of stuff in this 331 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,400 box, man. It's, it's crazy. 332 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:07,080 Oh, this is a vampire trail mix there. 333 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:12,720 This is the, you know, the soul jar that Cosgrove has, Obviously 334 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,080 the character that you would play. 335 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,920 Yeah, it's obviously the character I would play. 336 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,000 Yes, you were correct. So it's got the soul jar. 337 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,880 This is Mother Millicent's furious soul. 338 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,600 Yeah. If found, please lose it says 339 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,760 and very cool. Stay the fucking side. 340 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,080 Stay the fucking side. It's got like A tag. 341 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,080 It's pretty dope. Yeah, it says no exit at the 342 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,640 top. So that's that. 343 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,760 And then I also got, obviously that's the the addition also 344 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:49,760 gives you other bonuses, which is all this stuff. 345 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:58,600 And this is basically a fat stack of character sheets. 346 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,680 So you literally get a bajillion fucking character sheets. 347 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:12,160 And then there is. Yeah, these and then maps a 348 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:20,360 couple of different maps for Paris and then also a bunch of 349 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,600 other shit. So there's another coin. 350 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,880 It's different than the one that's in this box. 351 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,200 The one that came in this box is like exclusive to that box. 352 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,560 So there's another like challenge coin situation. 353 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,520 They were on Alchemy, which was popular in the TRPG scene for 354 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,040 like a very small period of time. 355 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:53,440 And then dope bookmark, a whole bag of of pretty sick fucking 356 00:19:53,440 --> 00:20:01,400 patches. And then there are SWAC and then 357 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:07,880 there are little cool prints of each of the characters in like a 358 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,320 very like what you would kind of see on the side of like a plane 359 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,200 kind of way. Cool dance macaw, dark glamour 360 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,400 rig to blow corpse eater. It's like sexy. 361 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,640 It's like sexy shots of all the all the characters, Apex 362 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,440 Predator and Ravenous. Obviously I would play Flint, I 363 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,760 think, and no one would be surprised. 364 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,400 I would play Flint. Flint's a fucking great one. 365 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,960 That's like one of my 2 favorites. 366 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,160 Well, Flint and Chuck I think are my favorites, but I thought 367 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,520 you'd be a Cosgrove guy all the way. 368 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,240 He's a fucking like warlock. Yeah, yeah, No, Cosgrove is 369 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,600 definitely up there, but Flint is like, I really like Flint's 370 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,600 abilities and also Flint. Yeah, Flint, you know. 371 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,120 I mean, I think we would toss up for Flint, but if we took Flint 372 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,040 out of the picture, I think you would be Cosgrove and I would 373 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,760 play Chuck. It's Chuck, right? 374 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,600 Chuck's the. Yeah, Chuck's the gun slinging 375 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,760 cowboy esque 1. Yeah, that eats corpses. 376 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,200 Yeah. Totally, yeah. 377 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,320 So yeah, obviously that's what I would pick. 378 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,240 Oh yeah, Someone just asked about the book creaking when it 379 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,760 first opened. I'll I'll show a little bit more 380 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,560 of like the texture and stuff on it in just a second, then we'll 381 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,120 actually get into the fucking episode. 382 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,760 But man, they went the production value on this shit is 383 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,680 through the fucking roof. It's pretty insane. 384 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,400 I mean, just the just the stuff that came with it. 385 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,360 But I mean, I mean, in just a second I'll give you the info on 386 00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:36,080 how much fucking money they made Kickstarter. 387 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:41,160 But I mean, Roman rookie Beckhard is a pretty big kind of 388 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,520 name in I mean, they're not really indie in the not DD, not 389 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:51,720 D&D space, like any anyone that's, you know, heard of 390 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,160 aspire heart, any of those other ones that are really popular. 391 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,640 They did the die RPG, which die is an incredibly popular comic 392 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:03,000 with Karen Gillan, Roan Rick and Deckard. 393 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,480 Also, at least grant how it of Roan Rick and Deckard has a 394 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,520 honey heist, which is I mean, it's kind of like a thing. 395 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,840 It's it's like a piece of folklore in the indie space, 396 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,880 like to beat the bear on itch, which means that you had a game 397 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,680 that got higher than Honey Heist because Honey Heist is always at 398 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,680 the top of the itch list. So if you beat the bear, it 399 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,640 means that you actually had a game more popular than Honey 400 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:27,840 heist for a brief period of time. 401 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:34,240 And then inevitably it goes below Honey Heist because that's 402 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,840 how that's how it works. So let me get this shit out of 403 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:43,480 the way and and then we'll get crack a Lakin. 404 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,040 So yeah, so that is that was the tier that it was too high, but I 405 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,040 couldn't say no to it's a vampire game. 406 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:58,640 So, you know, you got to you got to do what you got to do, make 407 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,680 it the the buzz and stuff back to this ammo crate. 408 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,080 I got to stop by and stuff like this because I have nowhere to 409 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,920 put it. I don't know where this is going 410 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,240 to go. It's whatever it's. 411 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,840 Sitting on the floor. Well, it's an ammo box, so. 412 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:17,760 Yeah, so when you look at the cover too, I'm going to this is 413 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,680 like the UV treatment or whatever. 414 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,800 So you can see, you can see all that, right? 415 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,760 How like the texture, the splatter, like all of this right 416 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,640 here is like insanely splattered all over it. 417 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:35,440 Like it's crazy. And all of this is like super 418 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,120 deep, heavy shine. You see how it like, really pops 419 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:42,560 off of there? Yeah, yeah, really nice cover. 420 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,640 You know, it's crazy. And the art is the book itself 421 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,120 is like, yeah, the art's crazy, too. 422 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:50,080 So yeah, it's crazy. And then the edge is pink. 423 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,040 That was, I think, I think that was just the first run because 424 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,480 the versions you can get now everywhere have a green edge, 425 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,040 which I think is going to be going forward. 426 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,880 That's all it's going to be. So the pink edge was just the 427 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,000 initial front run and then it's got this window cut out in the 428 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:13,120 front, which leads to this on the inside, which is also got 429 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:17,160 like a lot of like treatment, like the the spot treatment on 430 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,760 it. And it's basically the inside of 431 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,680 the drop coffin is what it's supposed to be as far as the 432 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,520 cover goes. And we'll talk about the drop 433 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,840 coffins here in just a minute. But yeah, book goes hard, book 434 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,480 goes crazy. There's a flip out on the back 435 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,560 to there's these like kind of like fake IDs on the back, which 436 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:42,200 this is not in the PDF. The PDF stops after like this 437 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:49,840 page, but there's like a whole I think both of these papers in. 438 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,560 So I think it's just this page that's not in the PDF anywhere. 439 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,160 But that's an extra bonus page that's also got like a fuck load 440 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,840 of like UV coding on it and shit. 441 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,920 Pretty cool. So, yeah, I mean, it's a as a 442 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:03,240 product, as like a physical product. 443 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,560 My fucking God. I mean, we'll go over that. 444 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,760 Yeah, we'll go over that here in just a little bit. 445 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,400 Everything else. So we'll we'll see. 446 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:19,760 We'll see how we feel about it. And that's that's that. 447 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:30,480 Let me get the shit out of here. Go away camera, and you can go 448 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:37,680 away too. So either, right? 449 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,000 Let's go into the info about Ether Reich. 450 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,080 So Ether Reich, This over the top ultraviolent game is 451 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,360 designed to be played from beginning to end in one to three 452 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,200 sessions of carnage, blood magic, meaningful flashbacks, 453 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,200 and hundreds upon hundreds of extremely dead fascists. 454 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,720 It tells one story that tells it loud, and it tells it 455 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:04,280 brilliantly. I think Wolfenstein crossed with 456 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,480 Danger 5:00 and you're not far off the mark. 457 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,360 Again. I saw that directly from the 458 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,680 website. You'd be surprised how often the 459 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,400 copy that people write on the website is not good. 460 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,440 Yeah, especially if you want people to review it. 461 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,840 The number of times that I have to write my own, like, sentence 462 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,760 or two to describe what the game is, because whatever they wrote 463 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,960 on the H page is not good, is often. 464 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:30,960 It's frequent. You should write better copy for 465 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,240 your games and especially if you want it promoted right. 466 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,080 A line or two that people can just take so that they can use 467 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,880 to promote your shit and talk about your shit. 468 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,480 Ether Reich launched on Kickstarter August 17th, 2023 469 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:52,000 and funded on September 14th, 2023 with 9367 backers for 470 00:26:52,000 --> 00:27:02,720 327,808 lbs which is $443,000. I'm sorry, 443,151 and some 471 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,080 change. Ether Ike won the 2024 Gold 472 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,080 Annie Award for Best Cover Art Kind of obviously, Best Interior 473 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,880 Art kind of obviously, and Best Adventure and was nominated for 474 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,040 Product of the Year, which in my definition of product, wait 475 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,680 until I drop the episode with Clayton Nottstein. 476 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,800 I think with all the bells and whistles definitely deserved to 477 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,360 be nominated there. It was also a 2025 Origins a 478 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:33,760 World Award finalist in RPG core category. 479 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,880 Eat the Right is available at rowanrookanddecker.com, as well 480 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,400 as other popular games from Rowan, Rook and Decker like 481 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,240 Spire Heart and The Die RPG and Honey Heist, amongst others. 482 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,920 You can also snag it at like IPR Tabletop Bookshelf, all those 483 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,240 places and it's the same price pretty much across the board. 484 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,560 And we'll get to that in the value section, but that is the 485 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,920 info. This was a four of almost a 486 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,000 $450,000 Kickstarter. That's crazy. 487 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,560 It's crazy. So I mean, at least they spent 488 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,240 that money putting all of that like goop on the on the cover, 489 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,440 you know? And I don't mean that 490 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,000 derogatorily. I like the goop. 491 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,800 I think the the texture was cool. 492 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,080 Super cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 493 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,280 Insane. It's. 494 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,360 Really. This one of the strongest points 495 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:23,720 of this product. Yeah, as a physical product that 496 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,280 bells and whistles through the fucking roof, you know what I 497 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,920 mean? So looking at the cover again, 498 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,040 I'll zoom to page level here. I mean, it's gorgeous. 499 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:43,280 The art is from Will Kirkby. Kirkby, bro, my fucking God. 500 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,920 I think I've seen some of their like space marines that they do 501 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,840 too, because obviously I'm fucking Warhammer build right, 502 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,200 right and but but Will Kirkby's art is insane. 503 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,920 I mean they basically made this game look like this game and 504 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,800 they did and good choice. Good call. 505 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,040 Yeah, lots of, lots of. Pinks. 506 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,000 Yeah, lots of pinks, which we love here on the show. 507 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,400 You know, kind of cyans or magentas. 508 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,240 A lot of a lot of magenta and cyan too. 509 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,400 There's a lot of good, a lot of good cyan through this whole 510 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,840 thing. Very CYM. 511 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks good. 512 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,640 I mean, I love it. Like visually, you know, I don't 513 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,160 think we're going to have a lot of complaints about this 514 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,880 whatsoever. The logo is fire. 515 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,000 The R and the H are like fangs. I mean, you know, again, lot of, 516 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,160 lot of lot of. Solid visual design choices 517 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,760 made. Yeah, this is kind of like it's 518 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,600 like a casino in Vegas from the outside, you know? 519 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,200 Yeah, this is like Gino's instead of Pats for all you 520 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:49,400 Philly folks. So quick flip through a couple 521 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,720 of pages I want to talk about before we get to the rules 522 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,120 breakdown. I mean, first of all, just the, 523 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,880 the, the table of contents is great. 524 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,880 We'll get into the usability issue, not issues. 525 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,560 Some things about the usability later PDF remediation by dye 526 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,440 sugars was happy to see that for those who don't know what PDF 527 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,280 remediation is, it's basically making sure not I don't think 528 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:19,200 it's just for, but especially for screen readers for like 529 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,000 accessibility. All of the the screen reader 530 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,320 reads it in the correct way and like the alt text is all there 531 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,640 and everything so that if you're using a screen reader, you get 532 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,400 all of the book correctly. And Dai is a fantastic PDF 533 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,200 remediator. I just done a lot of work, 534 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,960 obviously works with Space Penguin, but I think they've 535 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,840 done stuff with I think Free League and some other stuff, but 536 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,480 obviously RD2, they've, you know, a lot of really good 537 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,560 stuff. So eat the Reich. 538 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,000 The year is 1943. Europe is in flames. 539 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,640 You are a unit of crack vampire commandos with a single 540 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,920 objective drink all of Adolf Hitler's blood and fatally 541 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,920 detestable and fatally destabilize the Nazi war 542 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,400 machine. My brain broke for a second 543 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:05,200 that. Was good. 544 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,720 Yeah, great. How? 545 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:13,080 And it will Kirkby so, so yeah. And then we get a lot of stuff. 546 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,360 So do you want to let's talk about the stuff after? 547 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,080 You want to just do the rules breakdown and get that out of 548 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,400 the way. Let's do the rules breakdown 1st 549 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,760 and then we'll, we'll, you know, we'll do rules and characters 550 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,280 and then we'll kind of talk about our feelings about the 551 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,920 stuff. OK, so I'm actually going to 552 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,120 scroll through. Let me get. 553 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,920 To 30 something pages of not rules. 554 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,880 Yeah, let me get to. Yep, page 30. 555 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,080 Page 30. Oh, I'm still going guys. 556 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:44,080 I'm still scrolling. I passed it page 30 of I think 557 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,960 76. 70, yeah, I think 76 as well, maybe 75. 558 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,160 I would guess it's probably 76 just because the divisible by 4, 559 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,040 but. Yeah, yes, there's always 560 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,400 divisible by four. Yeah, you're right. 561 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,240 I mean scrolling through some dope art. 562 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,120 So. So what is the gist of this 563 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,800 game? This is the rules breakdown 564 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,160 here. The gist of the game is that it 565 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,680 is AD6 dice pool game with clocks where you play exactly 1 566 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,400 scenario. You're a spec OP group of 567 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,000 vampires dropped into Paris in 1943 and you're trying to kill 568 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,640 Adolf Hitler. That's the whole fucking game. 569 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,840 It's not actual Paris. It's not historically accurate. 570 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,680 We'll, we'll, we'll do that after. 571 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,840 That's what I wanted to do, but and then my brain broke. 572 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:39,960 But it is a fake Paris where there's more Nazis and shit and 573 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,080 it's slightly different. Whatever. 574 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,080 So that's the gist of the game. It's AD 6 dice pool game that 575 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,000 that uses clocks and mechanically that's about that's 576 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,080 about what you get. Yeah. 577 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,040 So mechanics wise you have 7 stats listed here. 578 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,680 They are brawl con not constitution. 579 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,080 Con isn't like con man con. Use charisma and shit. 580 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,760 Fix search, shoot sneak and terrify. 581 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,320 Exactly what they sound like. That is what they are. 582 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:13,160 You have 7 of them, turn order, GM picks the turn order, 583 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,800 whatever I get, whatever works in the story, and then everyone 584 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,200 has to go. You build your dice pools the 585 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,040 way every other fucking game builds dice pools. 586 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,280 There is nothing unique at all about this. 587 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,640 If you had to guess, what would you use to build your dice 588 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,320 pools? Yep, stats, equipment, and 589 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,040 abilities. And that's what you use to build 590 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,720 dice pools here, right? So you build your dice pools. 591 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,160 You basically take a number of dice equal to the stat that 592 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,560 you're using. So if you're going to use 593 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,080 search, whatever stat you have in search, you grab that many 594 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,160 dice. And then if you're going to use 595 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,120 equipment or abilities, you add dice for that. 596 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,800 And the dice that you use for that are listed with your 597 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,000 equipment and with your abilities. 598 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,720 And I think Hunter, you're going to go over that a little bit 599 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,720 more. You're going to pick a character 600 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,920 sheet and kind of run through on real quick. 601 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,480 Yeah. Yeah, might as well look at 602 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,080 that. And then there's options for 603 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,480 bonus dice. There's a couple of different 604 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:11,960 ways to get bonus dice and you can get an extra dice if it's 605 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,880 the last use of an equipment, a piece of equipment. 606 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,679 So if you have, you know your equipment uses has usage slots 607 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,639 basically. So if you use it three times and 608 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:25,920 only has three uses on your third usage, you get a bonus die 609 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,120 for using it. And that is written to encourage 610 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,639 you to use up your equipment and loot new equipment so you're not 611 00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:33,120 just holding on to your shit. I like that. 612 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,560 I think that's really clever. Yeah, I agree. 613 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,040 I like, I do enjoy that part of it. 614 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,080 Yeah, what I'm not a big fan of is how small the loot box is on 615 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,040 the character sheet, and we'll look over that a little bit 616 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,120 later. The other way. 617 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,600 Oh, I even wrote here in the notes, even though the loot 618 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,600 section in the character sheet is so small, that is one way you 619 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,480 can get bonus dice. Another is no, that's the goal 620 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,760 with the bang section. Here is the equipment thing. 621 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,720 The GM builds a threat pool. So the way the game works is you 622 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:09,720 build your dice pool and then when it's your turn to go, the 623 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:12,840 GM built a threat tool based on the attack rating or whatever 624 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,160 the threat is. So say you're fighting a Nazi 625 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,920 patrol and that patrols attack rating is 3. 626 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,600 The GM gets 3D sixes, and then you get however many D sixes you 627 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:28,840 want, and then you get this graphic because at no point in 628 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,640 the game anywhere are the rules for this actually written out at 629 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,880 all. I was I was gonna ask about 630 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,280 that. I was like did I just miss or is 631 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,000 this the only the only? Which is so weird and the first 632 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,160 thing I thought was, well, fuck screen readers, right? 633 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,200 But then I saw the PDF remediation from Die and I was 634 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,480 like, well thank goodness, at least I know that they'll get 635 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,920 this information somehow. But for those in podcast land, 636 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,760 it is a graphic that shows how the dice mechanic works. 637 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,800 But again, it's not written out anywhere. 638 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,080 And for people that would like just work better reading it, I 639 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,960 thought this was very weird. I don't think I've ever seen it 640 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,800 where it's not written out, where it's just given to you in 641 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,400 a graphic. Can you think of a time where? 642 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,120 Not on top of my head. I'm sure there may be one other 643 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,880 instance of this. I feel like we've had a fair a 644 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,000 fairly similar conversation, but not that I can think. 645 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,280 Of I find it pretty weird that it's just a graphic. 646 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,000 So the way the graphic works is it shows player role at the top 647 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,240 and GM role in the bottom and the player role each and each 648 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:31,480 have 6D sixes rolled and it's 123456 with a line down the 649 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,480 middle. And on both player and GM dice, 650 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,320 the GM, the dice are a little bit different. 651 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,160 They're do look great. They're great looking dice. 652 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,560 If I was going to draw dice, I would hope they would look like 653 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,920 this. But on 1/2 and three for both it 654 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,920 says discard. So none of that matters because 655 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:53,280 according to this graphic, anything to 4 and up is a 656 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,160 success, right? So for the GM 4-5 and six is a 657 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,600 success plus one damage. So there's ways you can put 658 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,480 successes into the game and damage and stuff. 659 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,280 That's what they get for players. 4 and fives are success 660 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,960 plus one damage or plus one defense or plus one blood. 661 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,640 And six is a critical and you get +2 of everything that I just 662 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,760 said. Or you can activate a special. 663 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,240 So obviously. So that tells you right off the 664 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:23,040 bat that bad guys don't get crits and crits are good for you 665 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,960 and that the system is A4 plus system, right? 666 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,360 You have to roll 4 higher on your pool of D sixes, even 667 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,600 though it doesn't say anywhere that that that's a thing, which 668 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,920 I think is incredibly interesting. 669 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,160 And yeah, and that's the core of the game, right? 670 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,440 There is build a dice pool using your stats, abilities and 671 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:49,240 equipment and throw it against the GMs because they're also 672 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:51,920 going to be rolling a dice pool. And then you allocate. 673 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,680 And how does the allocation work? 674 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,880 So already did of that. So allocate your successes to 675 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,080 advancing an objective, eliminating a threat, defending 676 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,560 yourself against attacks, feeding on Nazi blood, or 677 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,840 activating a special. So then there's like 2 pages 678 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,120 where they just copy paste the same thing over and over and 679 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,560 over again. Because it's the exact same 680 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,280 mechanic for everything that you do, right? 681 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,840 When you allocate success to advancing an objective, reduce 682 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,400 the objectives rating by one. When you allocate success to 683 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,440 eliminating a threat, reduce the threats rating by 1. 684 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,040 When you allocate 6 to feeding, gain 1 blood. 685 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,280 When you allocate A crit, gain 2 like it said, plus one blood, +2 686 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,640 blood. And then you get specials. 687 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,960 So specials can only be activated on a crit. 688 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,120 And then there's specials, you know, blah blah blah, they do 689 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,480 stuff. And then between all of it, it 690 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040 just keeps trying to reinforce role-playing. 691 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,800 A lot it says add details like ripping Nazis in half, laying 692 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,160 down, covering fire. Add details like clearing a path 693 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,520 toward something on useful lending support to an ally. 694 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,120 So it's really, this is a dice pool story game. 695 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,040 It's really leaning into that and really wants you to RP a 696 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,680 lot. Yeah, I really want you to RP a 697 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,440 lot. I have thoughts, yeah. 698 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,400 Yeah, Yeah. I wish it. 699 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,640 Yeah. Well, we both have thoughts on 700 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,000 on that. And then there's a section here 701 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,640 on taking control with the details. 702 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,280 The details here are just suggestions. 703 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,680 You can put forward almost anything you want. 704 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,400 The only thing that you can't narrate is the actions of other 705 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,120 named characters. Again, there's a whole section 706 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,920 of the book that we're going to talk about a little bit later 707 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,160 and we're going to skip that for right now. 708 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,760 So you allocate your success to all those things if the GM. 709 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,600 So the way that this works, right? 710 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:46,480 Did I get to the clock shed? Healing I'll, I'll, I'll talk 711 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,400 about some other stuff and then and then we'll get we'll kind of 712 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,600 like roll back to attacks and threats and stuff like that. 713 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:56,440 So if the GM has attacked, I slot basically see this one. 714 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,280 This is eliminating a threat or no defending yourself against 715 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,080 attacks. So if I roll 3 successes. 716 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,120 Right. And you roll 3 successes, but I 717 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:10,200 put an excess towards advancing an objective and and the success 718 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,120 towards eliminating a threat that gives me one last one left 719 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,360 to defend myself with. And you had three attacks. 720 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,720 I could defend against one. And then you have two attacks 721 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:23,560 left against me when all of our dice are allocated and and kind 722 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,240 of. So then I would take two damage. 723 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,080 So if I don't allocate enough dice to defend against your 724 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,320 attack roll before I do, or instead choose to advance 725 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,080 objectives or or eliminate a threat or feed on blood and 726 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,760 stuff like that, that's the damage I take. 727 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,760 So you always at the very least want to roll higher than the 728 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,800 GM's number of successes so you can defend against it and then 729 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,640 choose whether you're going to defend against it or not. 730 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,120 So that's kind of like the crux of like why the GM rolls like 731 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,280 attack threat, the threat pool basically. 732 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,840 Next, there's a, there's an example of play here, which is 733 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,280 great, first of all, beautiful, but also like an example of 734 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,960 play, talking through the dice rolls and everything. 735 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,040 It's a really good example of play. 736 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,320 It's 2 pages long. They do a good job. 737 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,520 I think it really explains the very kind of easy mechanics 738 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,920 very, you know, very well. And it's got arena on it who is 739 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,560 cool. She's cool. 740 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,400 Then you got blood. So vampires drink blood. 741 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,520 Obviously you can use blood for things. 742 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,080 You can heal an injury by spending three blood. 743 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,400 We'll get into injuries and stuff in just a second. 744 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,680 You can hold up to 10 blood bloods at a time, however you 745 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:37,520 want that to look, whether it's vials or sacks or like you know, 746 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,320 one giant VAT with like a thing and mechanically hold your blood 747 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,520 however you want. Like one of those backpacks, the 748 00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:47,120 like the water bladder inside and you have like a little like 749 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,840 a camelback. Camelback there were you? 750 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,200 Got a camelback of blood? Yeah. 751 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,720 And you can also share your blood with other people. 752 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,160 That's totally cool. You can do all that. 753 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,560 So when did I put injuries and stuff? 754 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,240 I think I'll put it back in the other thing. 755 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:10,680 So injuries and down is what happens when again the when you 756 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,680 get attacks, right? So when you don't neutralize all 757 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,360 of them, right, that the GM still has attacked dice 758 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,320 remaining. When you have no dice remaining, 759 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,520 you mark an injury on your character sheet. 760 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,880 Each character has unique injuries and problems associated 761 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,960 with them. When you mark an injury, roll AD 762 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,560 6 and tick off the first box in the relevant category. 763 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,040 I don't understand why they're called categories. 764 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,280 I think 1 Hunter goes over the character sheet. 765 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,640 We'll talk about that a little bit more. 766 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,000 It doesn't want to make sense to me. 767 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,400 Basically there's 1234 and 5-6 with two each. 768 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,600 But it's not like like a light injury, medium injury, heavy 769 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,040 injury. It's weird, but basically 770 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,480 there's not, you don't have HP, you just take off an injury and 771 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,200 that's that's how it works. And then you take the effect 772 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,480 from that. But the first injury in each 773 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,680 section is pretty much just narrative, and the second 774 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,840 injury, it actually has mechanical shit that you have to 775 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,120 deal with. You can get put down if you 776 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,200 ever, if the GM has three or more, a tactile remaining when 777 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,720 you have no dice remaining, you are downed. 778 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,080 And downed means you're out but not dead. 779 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,720 And you have now created an extra little mission because the 780 00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:27,800 only way to get undowned is for your your people to save you. 781 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,720 So you're like stuck in a rubble or captured or some shit, and 782 00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:35,160 you've created a side quest now for everyone to get undowned. 783 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,880 And then death is when you have marked all of your injuries and 784 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:45,480 you get to make a last stand. Yeah. 785 00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:48,960 Where you do something dramatic and roll AD 6. 786 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,960 It reminds me of like your swan song in Order of Blues. 787 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,160 Yeah, totally. I was. 788 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,600 I was thinking that when I read it too. 789 00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,240 Yeah, you don't get to do anything you want, but you get 790 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:04,520 AD 6 to kind of like do one last cool thing before you go, but 791 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,000 you can't use any abilities or anything that would heal you 792 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,960 like your debt like you're going out like there's nothing you 793 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,880 need to save yourself. That's it. 794 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,240 All right, objectives and threats. 795 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:16,080 The way that they both work is they're just clocks. 796 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,200 It's clocks. I mean this is this is I don't 797 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,200 know, I don't I wouldn't call this APBTA or like in like AI 798 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,200 don't know if I would even call it. 799 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,440 I don't think it's a force in the dark game, but it's like, no 800 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,640 obviously like built on like. Yeah. 801 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,840 A lot of the same stuff, but like clocks is a very popular 802 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,240 PTA thing. The dice pool thing is obviously 803 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,200 a Fords in the dark thing. I didn't start with Fords I 804 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,720 don't believe but. It's the dice pool, the 805 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,000 flashbacks, the kind of way injuries work on this, they 806 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,040 actually work. Not the same in blades. 807 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,920 It's like a lighter, better blades, like I would just pay 808 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,880 blades with with the havoc engine, quote UN quote. 809 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,960 But but but anyway, so objectives and threats both just 810 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,800 use clocks, which means it is just a line of boxes. 811 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,400 And let's say that it says get inside the German technology 812 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,240 pavilion and it's got six boxes. So that means 6 successes have 813 00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:07,800 to go towards that before you succeed at it. 814 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,840 I like clocks. I I like clocks this way where 815 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,360 it's boxes instead of like a circle that you're like actually 816 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,440 checking off like a clock. This one fits better in my 817 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,000 brain, but that's that's how it works and it's the same thing 818 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,280 with threats. So it's got an infantry squad 819 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,440 listed here and it's six boxes attack 3, which means you have 820 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:35,240 to get 3 eliminate the threat successes against the GM's 3D6 821 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:37,560 threat pool to eliminate this threat. 822 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,160 I like it. I think it's clean. 823 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,160 I think it's easy. And let me tell you what if if 824 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,200 if we're both saying that this is a better blades in the dark 6 825 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,160 box clock attack 3 is way fucking better than like 826 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,040 approach and position and and all the fucking. 827 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,000 Absolutely. Yeah, There's no question in my 828 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,360 mind. You are correct. 829 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,080 The entire conversation you have to have every time you want to 830 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,400 do anything. We're such. 831 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,480 Consummate like Blades in the Dark critics. 832 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,000 It's so funny. I'm a hater. 833 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,560 I'm just a straight up hater. I'm a critic of a lot of things, 834 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,880 but but the IT it yeah, we needed to have a blades counter 835 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,000 as much as we need a 5 E counter because I think it'd be catching 836 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,160 up anyway that that is that is how threats and objectives work. 837 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,800 It's clean, it's easy. I like it. 838 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,440 You just, you just have to get a number of successes towards 839 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,640 either and then you, you narrate it out right? 840 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,880 And then there's reinforcements, which seems like a really cool 841 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,280 idea, but I think it's just a broken pain in the ass. 842 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,120 Read second and third paragraph on page 38. 843 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,720 I didn't even take notes. I said just read it. 844 00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:43,520 OK, pass me, I'll read it. At the end of each round, if a 845 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,560 threat was reduced to 0 rating, restore its rating by 1D6 and 846 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,080 return its attack to half its starting value, rounded down. 847 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,960 Oh OK. In addition, increase each 848 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,240 active threats attack by one as Nazi forces close in on the 849 00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:02,040 vampire. If the GM rolls 0 successes on 850 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,880 their attack dice, increase the threats attack by one once the 851 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,600 player has resolved their action. 852 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,480 The end of the round is a good moment to check that this has 853 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,960 been applied that I don't know why it's not. 854 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,840 It's like 2-3 sentences. That's sounds like a pain in the 855 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,200 ass. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's like, 856 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:26,960 it's maybe like the least clean, Yeah, a concise like rule in 857 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,400 there. Yeah, I don't personally like 858 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,120 it. The thing is though, here's 859 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,320 here's the thing, it's not like you have 5 threats going on at 860 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,320 once. Like the situation you're in is 861 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,360 1 threat. So if it is A6 rating, you 862 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,560 reduce it to Z and it's reduced to zero. 863 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,560 You roll 1D6 and unmark those boxes. 864 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,560 So let's say you get a 3, it's back to three, and then return 865 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,280 its attack to half its starting value. 866 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,960 So if it was 3, it would now be 1 because it's half its value 867 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,880 rounded down. But then if the GM rolls 0 868 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,000 successes, you increase the thrust attack by one once. 869 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,600 So every time I roll is that every time I roll 0 successes 870 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,480 for the first time? Like do I just increase the 871 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,920 rating every single fucking time? 872 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,080 Like I like the idea. I definitely read that as every 873 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,280 time like because you start with 1. 874 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,320 So every time you like in this scenario. 875 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,880 Yeah, every if if you're have so little dice, especially in D6 876 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,280 dice pool. Like it does make sense that 877 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,480 like as you get reinforcement sick, you generate some more 878 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,440 dice to have a higher chance of hitting a success. 879 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,280 And that also gives the characters like like a amount of 880 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,600 time where their successes are more meaningful with their dice 881 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,360 pools because they have so much less to go against. 882 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:45,920 Yeah, it says here that the whole point of this is it it it 883 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,520 Nazi forces close in on the vampires. 884 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,720 But I mean like narratively, like it's the same threat. 885 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,840 And then now you have the the threat come back, but less like, 886 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,800 I would rather like a new threat come in, you know what I mean? 887 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,680 Like just have like reinforcements as like I don't 888 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,120 know, I feel. Like that'd be tedious to be 889 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,720 like this constant like it is. It's hard to to gain ground if 890 00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:09,200 it came back at the same level or time. 891 00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:13,000 It makes sense that like I go into a base, they have their 892 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,080 like forces, their station there, I wipe them out, 893 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,680 reinforcements start coming, but obviously it's not as 894 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,440 concentrated as the actual forces Station. 895 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,920 What? I'm saying is instead of instead 896 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,440 of it coming back the same. I don't know, my brain would be 897 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,440 a lot easier if it didn't say like return all of it stuff back 898 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,960 as opposed to my brain would work better if it said add a new 899 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,920 force that has half as many and half as many in my brain. 900 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,320 Add a new one that does exactly the same. 901 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,920 Works a lot better than just put the old one back halfway, you 902 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,880 know what I mean? I don't know why my brain works 903 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,960 better that way but but you can also just go to the giant red 904 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,800 box below that says reinforcements caveat and it 905 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,800 basically says if you don't want to do that shit because it 906 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,880 sucks, don't. If your players want a more 907 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,040 relaxing time, you can ignore the rule and increase the rating 908 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,840 and damage by one to three points instead. 909 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,960 I would just do that. I just did that every time. 910 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,920 So that's it. Challenge. 911 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,200 Not all challenges made equal. Sometimes there is a challenge 912 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,440 rating on an objective and it's basically arm or soak for an 913 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,680 objective. So if you have an objective 914 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,680 challenge rating of one, that means just putting 1 doesn't 915 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,520 work. As far as I read it, the 916 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,640 challenge rating stays. It's not like you have to get 917 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,760 rid of it one time. It's always there. 918 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,840 It's that's what I read. So that you have to put at least 919 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,000 2 on it to get it to go down by one. 920 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,800 Or do you think because otherwise why wouldn't you just 921 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,160 raise it by 1? Like to me it's soak. 922 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,320 If you have a challenge rating 1, you have to put 2 on it every 923 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,400 time needed to go down one, right? 924 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,600 There's like an armor soak basically for it. 925 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:59,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The game obviously works in 926 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,080 scenes because like the threat comes and now you have the clock 927 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,640 to fail and then you move to the next thing. 928 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,400 There's secondary objectives, which are a thing. 929 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,800 And a lot of that is basically like if you if you get down 930 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,120 that's a secondary objective, you can loot. 931 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,920 I like the looting. I think it's a good idea. 932 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,000 Again, I like that the equipment is written in such a way that 933 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,360 encourages you to use it so you can pick up new stuff. 934 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,560 But it also kind of doesn't make the looting very easy. 935 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,440 It like apparently like a lot of the times if you want to pick 936 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,480 something up, you have to like build it yourself versus just 937 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,960 like, I don't know like there's a whole section here that says 938 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,040 you don't need to do this every single time, but like if you 939 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,600 want to do it, here's the way that you can build it and stuff 940 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,200 like that. For a game that moves this fast, 941 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,120 I think it's interesting that like it's that all the loot 942 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:45,600 isn't just like this is what you can have yes you know some more 943 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,280 cool art flashbacks. One of the last things here. 944 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,000 So flashbacks I think are interesting. 945 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,040 Obviously again, kind of gives you an idea of Blades in the 946 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,960 Dark, but on the Kickstarter page you talked about meaningful 947 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,200 flashbacks. So the way flashback works is 948 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,080 once per section when you roll 2 successes or fewer, you can 949 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,840 trigger a flashback and it says to spur yourself to victory and 950 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,640 not let Hitler win easily. Basically there's flashback 951 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,240 context and flashback question you roll on these things. 952 00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:15,440 So for example, question 1 you saved character and you would 953 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,440 like pick a character or roll whatever from certain death what 954 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,280 nearly killed them. You basically have this like 955 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,720 stop thing where you like actually like play out like a 956 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:24,720 flashback in the past. Have like a little narrative 957 00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,480 moment. Cool cool cool. 958 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,080 And afterwards you get to add 2 dice to your dice pool and re 959 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:36,320 roll the entire thing. So I mechanically I don't 960 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,840 understand how that's meaningful in any way shape or form. 961 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,800 It's just like anytime you want more dice, just have like a 962 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,680 narrative pause and then get to dice. 963 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,520 Versus at least in Blades, if you were doing a flashback it'd 964 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,560 be like oh like 2 days ago I put a rope under. 965 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,440 This I set myself up for success. 966 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,240 Right. And then you get to use your 967 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:58,360 flashback going forward, just getting a couple of dice for it. 968 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,960 I mean, again, this game, and we'll talk about it more in a 969 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,520 little bit, really, really, really wants you to RP a lot. 970 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,240 And this is like, I guess a nice little pause to do that. 971 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,200 But like as far as meaningfulness within the game 972 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,360 context, it feels tacked on a little bit to me. 973 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,120 Then the mission structure is how this works because you only 974 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,880 have the one. There's a briefing and it 975 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,720 literally gives you the entire briefing. 976 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,280 There's the coffin fall, which is an interesting thing to call 977 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,880 it because at no other time do they call it a coffin fall. 978 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,960 They call it coffin dropping a coffin drop coffins, but they 979 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,560 call it coffin fall here, and that's basically the coffin 980 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,680 falling. Do you want to go over coffin 981 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,560 the coffin drop stuff later? That's a cool bit. 982 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,280 Or do you want me to talk about how that works? 983 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:41,600 I mean, do we need to go over it? 984 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,600 You're in a coffin that falls out of the sky like. 985 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:45,000 No, there's more to it than that. 986 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,920 I know, but. Yes. 987 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,240 So we're going over it right now. 988 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,120 So each coffin slams into the ground at terminal velocity. 989 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,200 It's basically it's a giant metal box that you're in and you 990 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,520 get dropped in a giant metal box and become fucking paste because 991 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:58,920 you. Smash that hard. 992 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,080 But the nuns from what is the place called Our Our Lady of 993 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:09,120 Ruin have filled the coffin with their blood, so it also breaks 994 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,360 at the same time, splashes all over your paste body and you 995 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,080 instantly regenerate. Cool idea. 996 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,840 Yeah, super solid vampire drop drop pod idea. 997 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,520 I can't imagine that it tickles. They never talk about how you 998 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:29,600 put your clothes back on. It's a cool idea that, like, in 999 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,680 practice would be fucking awful. Yeah, all the time. 1000 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,120 Instead of just being like, let's drop a tiny bit slower. 1001 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,400 They'll put your clothes and stuff in like a little black box 1002 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,560 and then you you go in court, essentially, yeah. 1003 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go on ass naked, become 1004 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,840 paced, get rebuilt with blood instantly, and again, instead of 1005 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,360 maybe just like opening up a parachute a little bit before 1006 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,840 ground and you're a vampire, you can survive. 1007 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,760 I don't know. I think it's a cool fucking idea 1008 00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,280 that they ran with someone sometime, obviously. 1009 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,960 What if we did with this and they just went, yeah, we're 1010 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:00,680 sticking with it. I don't care if it's practical 1011 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:05,520 or not. So the coffin drops onwards is 1012 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,160 basically you're just like fighting through the streets of 1013 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,160 Paris. You have there's Uber mentioned 1014 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,320 in the game, which are basically just mini bosses which have 1015 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,000 their own kind of like whole situation. 1016 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,760 There's the climax where you finally find Hitler and kill 1017 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,080 him. And then there's the epilogue 1018 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,400 where you talk about it afterwards. 1019 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,240 And that's, that's, that's the rules, dims the rules. 1020 00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:29,520 And then you get 2 pages of running of how to run the game 1021 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,720 and, and, and that's, that's, that's mechanics. 1022 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:36,800 So what do you want to do for character generation? 1023 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,160 So character generation, we'll just talk, I'll do an overview 1024 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,200 and then we'll look at look at Cosgrave because that's the one 1025 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:50,680 I would look at. So you have 7 pre made 1026 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:56,080 characters to pick from? Is it 712345? 1027 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,200 I'm missing some on my notes. That's so weird. 1028 00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:01,000 I don't. Think it's 7. 1029 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:07,280 It's not. 7 now, you get Irina, you get Nicole, you get 1030 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:14,960 Cosgrave, you get Chuck, you get Astrid, and you get Flint. 1031 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,720 So it's only 6. So weird. 1032 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,240 My I copied these notes from another page. 1033 00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:21,720 I must not have copied Chuck. That's what I'm missing. 1034 00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:24,560 It's 6, not 7. Yeah. 1035 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,560 So you have 6 pre made characters to choose from. 1036 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,440 You have Irina, A posh vampire noble with some domination kind 1037 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,240 of magic. Nicole, a vampire gorilla 1038 00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:38,680 fighter who blows shit up. Cosgrove, A necromancer with 1039 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,760 some opportunities for like creative magic use. 1040 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:48,080 The most magical character you have is Chuck, a kind of cow 1041 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:55,480 poke gunslinger, repairman kind of guy, fix it guy, Astrid, AX 1042 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,400 fighter pilot. It's kind of made to be like an 1043 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,160 easy entry character, somebody who doesn't want like an 1044 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,520 overwhelming amount of stuff for RP and actually I think has some 1045 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:08,560 of the best utility abilities. And then Flint, a man bat, 1046 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:14,040 actual monster that is great. This super good character. 1047 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,200 Yeah, we can get to just scroll to Cosgrove's not kind of 1048 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,960 overview and then we'll go over things. 1049 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,000 So your characters are made of several things. 1050 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,360 You have the stats, which Ryan's already listed off, I won't do 1051 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,680 again. Equipment, which depending on 1052 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,520 what character you pick, you get 2 to 6. 1053 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,240 You start with two to six items specific to your character. 1054 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,960 Weapons, explosives, tools, abilities, 3 things that your 1055 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,960 character can do. They have a cost in of blood 1056 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:47,680 usually but not always advances. There are advancements you can 1057 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,040 take by drinking. I think the only way to advance 1058 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,880 is by drinking the ubermensch blood. 1059 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,960 I think so, yeah. Injuries, which is your injury 1060 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,960 track, which is unique I think to every character. 1061 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,080 It is not not, I think it is unique to every character. 1062 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,520 You have a blood little gauge on the side to track your blood and 1063 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,360 then you have your last stand ability. 1064 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:11,960 So for Cosgrave equipment, they start out with is a knife, a 1065 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:17,080 enormous knife, a soft shotgun, bottled ghost, and the Mother 1066 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,240 Millicent stolen soul jar. The bottled ghosts give you plus 1067 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,720 plus to pass through walls and mother malicent stolen soul jar 1068 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:32,240 has one use, but it gives you a + 4 is a + 3 + 3 on anything. 1069 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,480 Like you just got to pick how you use it. 1070 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,760 It's a very interesting item. It's maybe the most interesting 1071 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,000 item, honestly. I kind of rolled over in the 1072 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,360 equipment because we were going to talk about it. 1073 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,160 So the way that what it says off to the side, so it says like 1074 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,560 plus plus point blank. If you meet that condition, so 1075 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,480 you are point blank with somebody, you get 2 bonus types 1076 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,240 when you use it. That's what the plus plus is. 1077 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,640 And that's what the things on the side are, are conditions. 1078 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,400 I, I like that. I think that's really clever way 1079 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:03,320 to it's, it's in my opinion a because you know, I hate the 1080 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:04,960 word tags and I hate how tags are used. 1081 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:09,120 This is how I would use tags. This is what I would do instead 1082 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,400 of saying loud comma, close comma, bloody comma. 1083 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:19,720 You know what I mean anyway. Yeah, and then Cosgrip has three 1084 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:25,360 abilities. Dance, Macabre, Back Pocket Hex, 1085 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,800 and Phantasmagoria. They all do things. 1086 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,440 You only read through all these? No. 1087 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,160 Perfect. Unless there's one that's so 1088 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:38,960 cool that you have to read it. I just think that like, they're 1089 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,200 all fine. They're all fine. 1090 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,120 They're fine. Yeah. 1091 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,200 You get 3 advances. Actually, one of the advances I 1092 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,240 think is maybe my favorite one, just arbitrarily memory rot, 1093 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,520 which is that you spend one blood to remove or implant 1094 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:56,040 memories and someone you lock eyes with and you get a + 1 die 1095 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,520 if you're trying to be like you were never there, which I think 1096 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,080 is like a really interesting thing, Yeah. 1097 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,760 Then you have a death burst and dead Man's Luck. 1098 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,480 You have their injury track and their last stand is undead 1099 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,920 horde, another 86 last. So the characters are pretty, 1100 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,680 pretty simple. Yeah. 1101 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,880 This is also form syllable in the book and on the character 1102 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,080 sheet, which I do really appreciate. 1103 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,560 Yeah. Crazy again and the usability 1104 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,560 shit they they go off. Yeah, they really been off on 1105 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,760 usability. I think it's pretty good in this 1106 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,320 section. We also get these like great 1107 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,760 character portraits. We've kind of seen a little bit 1108 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,680 of a teaser from on the cards you were showing earlier, but 1109 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,960 these character portraits are fantastic. 1110 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,160 Yeah, they're, I mean, we've kind of been going through the 1111 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:43,720 book and we haven't really mentioned that the the whole 1112 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:44,880 book is great all the way through. 1113 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,840 It's like visually dossiers and files and like type cheats and 1114 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,960 it's amazing how good it looks. Yeah, we hit art. 1115 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,200 We'll definitely tag on that a little bit more, but yeah. 1116 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,560 And, and yeah, you, you, you don't create characters. 1117 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,640 You can, there's some hacking stuff in the back there creating 1118 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:02,520 a character. Right. 1119 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,240 But like you just get one handed to you, which is fine. 1120 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,240 Like it's, it's, it's, it's basically a pregen because 1121 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,000 you're playing one scenario. Yeah, the one scenario. 1122 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,920 Yeah, I, I, I like this. I think it's interesting. 1123 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,760 I mean, I think that you could use, I think it's cool. 1124 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,480 I think that when we hit a lot of the likes and don't likes and 1125 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,480 some of the stuff, we'll talk a little bit deeper about what's 1126 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,720 going on with that. I agree we're. 1127 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,960 About to get there so. Yeah, let me run through the 1128 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,680 there's a tiny bit of lore that I wanted to touch on earlier and 1129 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:34,920 totally forgot. And then we're going to hit our 1130 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:40,040 likes and don't likes here. It talked about Nazis. 1131 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,240 They're there and they it's basically, again, this is not 1132 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,480 real Germany or this is not real, you know, France, whatever 1133 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:49,840 it's it's not historically accurate. 1134 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,120 It's for this, there's Fang Fang, which is the organization 1135 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,760 that I don't think they ever tell you what it means. 1136 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,440 This is the organization started six months ago. 1137 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,760 Basically vampires and shit to fight Nazis, right? 1138 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,560 Yeah, it, Lily says. There's no official 1139 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,920 documentation for the acronym Fang so. 1140 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,360 Yeah. I mean, if you're going to like, 1141 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,000 that's so smart. So just be like, we wanted to 1142 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,840 say this and we're just not going to tell anybody what it 1143 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:14,400 is. Perfect. 1144 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:20,520 Yeah, great. Then in in Night Thirst from 1145 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:25,920 Woody, their skirmish game, their stake agents STAKE, and 1146 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,880 it's not listed what that means. I think she has what it really 1147 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,120 means, but she's never told anyone. 1148 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,960 I asked her, she told me no vampires. 1149 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,880 It talks about what vampires are. 1150 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,400 Guess what, they're vampires. Drop coffins. 1151 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,520 This is what it talked about before, this tactical drop 1152 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,520 coffin with Our Lady of Ruin and everything. 1153 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,880 It's here for some reason. And then there was a dope two 1154 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,880 page spread that talks about the let's see if the two page view 1155 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,880 is here. Yeah, that's a great fucking 1156 01:02:54,880 --> 01:03:01,000 piece of art of just like a picture of the schematics for a 1157 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,280 drop coffin, which is fucking crazy. 1158 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,320 Yeah. So that's the that's the lower 1159 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,440 bit before we hit some of the some of the stuff. 1160 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,160 So let's hop into our likes and don't likes. 1161 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,280 Man. This is going to be a longer 1162 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,480 episode than I thought. I think they fucked her out a 1163 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,520 little bit in the beginning. So what do I not like about 1164 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,520 this? I'm going to say this is going 1165 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,120 to be a part that might be a little bit contentious or people 1166 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,920 might have opinions on. It's 30 pages before you get to 1167 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:42,480 a single rule. It is 30 pages on a 76 page book 1168 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,000 before you hit a single rule. And then what is between that? 1169 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:48,280 Let's talk about that a little bit. 1170 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,440 So this game is definitely written as a for someone who 1171 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,440 apparently never played a tabletop role-playing game 1172 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,080 before. And I, I, we've talked about 1173 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,760 this a bunch of time, like one O 1 games versus 2O one or three O 1174 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,920 1 games. And like, I can like 9000 people 1175 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,360 back this. So I can imagine maybe some 1176 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,320 people backed it where they might not have played a tabletop 1177 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,640 role-playing game before. It is very it would be very 1178 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,200 weird in my opinion for your very first tabletop game to be a 1179 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:16,280 Roland Rook and Deckard vampire killing Nazis like game. 1180 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,720 But this game is written from the very beginning as if you've 1181 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,960 never even heard of a tip top role-playing game before. 1182 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:27,320 A and they want to thoroughly explain that to you. 1183 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:32,280 And not only that, like it's it's Nazis and shit. 1184 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:39,240 So they want to thoroughly make sure that they can they're 1185 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,400 uncancellable with how much they tell you how much they hate 1186 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,160 Nazis and how you shouldn't be 1 and stuff, which I think is very 1187 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,400 good. Yeah. 1188 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,920 You don't need 15 pages of it, in my opinion. 1189 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,960 So let's let's let's let's talk about that a little bit. 1190 01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,440 I'm I took some notes here at the bottom. 1191 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:05,080 It is 13 pages about what is a role-playing game and Nazis are 1192 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:16,640 bad and 12 pages of rules. It's it's a, there is, I think 1193 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:21,480 an overcorrection here that it's, I mean, I agree with all 1194 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,040 of the things, right? It's just like like rebel scum 1195 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,360 is a game about it's Star Wars with and they specifically talk 1196 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,120 about fighting space Nazis and space Nazis are bad and they do 1197 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,680 that in 4 pages in a 76 page book. 1198 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,640 I think the the and given the the, the, the correlation 1199 01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,360 between that is kind of crazy. So running through page by page, 1200 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,520 the first page is like, welcome, what is this? 1201 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,480 What what this isn't who this is for. 1202 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,320 What is a role-playing game? What is this role-playing game 1203 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,200 up to here? They had me right. 1204 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,240 I like the what is this role-playing game a lot more 1205 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,560 than what is a role-playing game. 1206 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,600 What is the havoc engine? Apparently they need to send 1207 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:07,080 name this very simple D6 dice pool with clocks thing as an 1208 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,760 engine or Pbta or like what? Like it has to have a name 1209 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,520 because that's what everyone does for their branding right? 1210 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,160 I like it. I just think it's it's a one 1211 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,080 page dice pool game that I didn't. 1212 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,880 Whatever the underlying ethical stance of this game, I'm also 1213 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,120 good with this section. I think they could have stopped 1214 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,720 after this section, but this game is not in and of itself an 1215 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,440 act of resistance. It is an act of creativity which 1216 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,080 reflects our frustration with the real world's ongoing Nazi 1217 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:34,960 problems. For some players, telling the 1218 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,160 story of fictional over the top combat against some of history's 1219 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,640 worst people feels fun and cathartic. 1220 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,320 For others, reenacting a fight against literal World War 2 1221 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,680 Nazis feels depressing or distasteful, or pretending to be 1222 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,000 a monster feels raw and upsetting. 1223 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,600 Eat the right isn't for everyone and there's no shame and not 1224 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:52,600 wanting to take part. You're deep into this already. 1225 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,360 If your 5 feet is in and you haven't decided that already, 1226 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,480 come on. Like there's a, there's an 1227 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,880 amount of here where they're just choosing to make a 1228 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,600 statement, which you can. It's your game and it's your, if 1229 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,760 you consider it art, it is your art. 1230 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,000 And you can make as many statements as you want. 1231 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:12,800 But as a book, like after this point, I think the rest of it 1232 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,000 can just be moved to the back of the book. 1233 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,080 Yeah. It's crazy how much is between 1234 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,400 the front cover and the and the rules of the game. 1235 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,880 The highlighted section here. We also consider anti fascist 1236 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,720 violence meaningful, meaningfully different from say 1237 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,440 violence against random orcs in a fantasy game. 1238 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,440 Nazis have indicated that they are evil, harmful, oppressive to 1239 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,880 you by their choice. Whereas killing an orc just 1240 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,080 because they were born an orc is definitely racist and probably 1241 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,320 something Nazis would do. I agree with all this. 1242 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,200 Fuck Nazis. Punch Nazis in the face. 1243 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,840 We are very hardcore leftist seer. 1244 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,640 You know, if I said, well, I think we should have the Nazis, 1245 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,000 we'd get banned. We would get banned there in 1246 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,200 terms of service here on Twitch. But we agree with this 1247 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,000 wholeheartedly. This statement is a very good 1248 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,440 statement. The underlying ethical stance of 1249 01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:02,880 this game cool, super down. And then it just keeps piling on 1250 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,160 over and over and over and over and over and over and over 1251 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,200 again, right? Like safety tools are a thing 1252 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,960 that every game should have. I think at this point in 2025 1253 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,960 for the most part, again, except like babies first role-playing 1254 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:15,600 game is the way that they wrote a lot of this stuff. 1255 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,479 You can just mention that that they are a thing and linked to 1256 01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,439 something else, but they don't hear they list every possible 1257 01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,399 safety tool across like multiple pages. 1258 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,840 There's a whole section here on playing anti heroes, which 1259 01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,960 basically just says like sometimes you're playing the bad 1260 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,000 guys and you but you still kill fascists. 1261 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,000 Like it gets to a point where it's like we fucking get it. 1262 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,680 You know what I mean? Like that's how I feel about it. 1263 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:41,560 Content warning on page 7 when you've already talked about like 1264 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,319 ripping Nazis in half and like you're playing Nazis and stuff. 1265 01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:49,399 Like it gets to a point where like OK like again, notes on 1266 01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:51,000 toning content could have gone in the back. 1267 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,640 Playing anti heroes could have gone in the back. 1268 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,439 I'm completely fine with all the writing for this, even though I 1269 01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,439 think it is a bit much because they just ramble on very 1270 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,000 conversationally sometimes explaining some of this stuff. 1271 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,840 There is a lot of that. I mean, like, I think a lot of 1272 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,120 this could have stayed where it is if they'd like. 1273 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,160 It's very, it's very chatty. It's. 1274 01:09:11,319 --> 01:09:15,080 Very chatty. It's very, very, very chatty. 1275 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,160 Like slim it up. But honestly, again, I think 1276 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:21,880 after after, in my opinion, page 5, almost all of this could just 1277 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,840 be put in the back of the book because that's where the evil 1278 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,880 calibration chart is, which is the thing that's here. 1279 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:31,800 Which, OK, all right, it's whatever. 1280 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,439 But all of this you could just say there, there is an entire 1281 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,479 chapter in the back of the book that has XY and Z in it. 1282 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,840 Read that. So we don't have to wait. 25 1283 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,680 more pages to get to the game. So then there's that, and then 1284 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,560 there's playing anti heroes. And there's historical general 1285 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,560 content warning, historical inaccuracy, which honestly 1286 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,279 probably should have been on Page 1, a whole section here on 1287 01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:57,200 innocent bystanders and like literally telling you like, 1288 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,440 like, like real people don't die and like all the rest of the 1289 01:10:00,440 --> 01:10:03,360 stuff. And it's just like, OK to like, 1290 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,760 I understand that. But like 3 paragraphs, like a 1291 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,600 lot of this stuff is there's my I think one of my issues with it 1292 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:14,640 is that anyone that like is with you, right, Nazi's bad, punch 1293 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,320 them right? And is already on the same page 1294 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,120 as you doesn't need this information. 1295 01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:22,080 Kind of, you know, anyone that's not with you and is like, no, 1296 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,240 Nazi's good is going to ignore this information anyway. 1297 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,840 So like, I'm I'm curious who the audience for this is again, like 1298 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,480 it just feels like very a soapbox. 1299 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,200 Yeah, it's your. Game. 1300 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,120 But. Do what you want with it, but 1301 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:40,440 like as like. Again, if this is fine, stick it 1302 01:10:40,440 --> 01:10:42,720 in the back of the book. Actual discrimination, of 1303 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,600 course. Racism is awful, and it's a 1304 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,680 fundamental aspect of fascism. It's really bad. 1305 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:53,600 Like anyone who is playing your vampire game of killing Nazis 1306 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,200 agrees with you. Just put this in the back. 1307 01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,680 You might not. Yeah, just put it in the back. 1308 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,040 Of the room. It's very odd. 1309 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,920 A section here on Playing with history where it talks about 1310 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,240 like, you know, more stuff back of the book setting up your 1311 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,120 game. This section, I thought it was 1312 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,400 actually about setting up this game. 1313 01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:17,440 No, it's literally talking about setting up a game again, like as 1314 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,520 if this is the first time they've ever heard of a tabletop 1315 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,200 role-playing game. And it's just such a weird it's 1316 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,840 it's kind of weird in the, in the. 1317 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,760 Weird. The amount that they put, the 1318 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,880 amount of effort and pages they put into that. 1319 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,560 Like if you've run a role-playing in before you can 1320 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,280 probably skip this section. OK then why is this section 1321 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,960 here? Because literally who? 1322 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,160 It literally just like grab some friends where pick a place to 1323 01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,400 play the game. That is what the where is like 1324 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,880 what are you talking about? Like when if you have a job with 1325 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:47,800 the regular daytime hours, you'll probably only be able to 1326 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:48,880 play on the evening and weekends. 1327 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,800 Why are you explaining this? Like this is literally the 1328 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,280 basics of making a plan every human being. 1329 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,600 Every other page I think there's somewhere, maybe an argument for 1330 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,000 some of it. Or like this is actually the 1331 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,760 craziest page. Like it is the most unnecessary 1332 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,120 page in the entire book when they're. 1333 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,560 Literally fucking scheduled anything before do you not 1334 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,320 understand? They literally explain how to 1335 01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:14,560 schedule an event with friends. It just happens to be this event 1336 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,400 and it's the most ridiculous thing to put in this game. 1337 01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:19,880 Like it's crazy. The choosing your character 1338 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:25,000 section, it is like 3 lines on a page where on the very next page 1339 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:29,040 it and goes over like the characters arena, gothic, 1340 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,960 socialite, blah blah blah. But on the very next page it's 1341 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,640 got Arena again and it lists like why the captain to use like 1342 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,160 these do not need to be two separate pages, but then 1343 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,440 immediately goes into like playing with identity and like 1344 01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:42,840 religion and stuff. Which one you don't like 1345 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,480 section, right? That's what we're doing right 1346 01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:47,040 now. Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1347 01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:50,480 This. Like, I get it, Like you're the 1348 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,480 icon. Like vampires have no preset 1349 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:54,760 pronouns, religion, sexuality, neurotypes. 1350 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,440 Like basically you made pregen characters that have no 1351 01:12:58,440 --> 01:13:01,440 personality or identifiers whatsoever. 1352 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,600 So what was the point of the pregen characters? 1353 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:08,840 Like that's getting to a point that's just, I don't know, it's 1354 01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,080 just like they're very much trying to have their cake and 1355 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:12,480 eat it too in this situation, not to get it. 1356 01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:15,800 And like playing with identity. Trust me, if you're 12 pages in 1357 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,680 and agree with all the fascism stuff, you're totally down for 1358 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,920 like the pronouns and, and trans rights and, and neuro, you know, 1359 01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,120 neuro atypical people and, and sexualities and religion. 1360 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,800 Like we're all on the same page. Again, this could have gone to 1361 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,000 the back of the book and a dossier on how to not be a piece 1362 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,840 of shit. Like I would have, I would have 1363 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,160 been very happy if there's literally just like a page that 1364 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,840 opened to a folder and this is like, like none of this is how 1365 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,120 to play the game. Again. 1366 01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,880 This is very like soapboxy in general. 1367 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:42,440 Absolutely. Yeah. 1368 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,560 And then it and then it gets into religion and like blood 1369 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,040 libel with anti-Semitism and stuff again like this is. 1370 01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:54,920 All stuff I agree with like I agree with their take. 1371 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,120 On a million percent it just again it's. 1372 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,440 Very virtue signally in a certain way, though. 1373 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,440 I mean, you said it, not me, but I completely agree. 1374 01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:06,600 Like it's, it's, it's, it's a lot. 1375 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,680 And again, I, I agree with 100% of every fucking word written, 1376 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,960 slap it in the back of the book. If the, if you want to put that 1377 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,520 statement and all of these statements in this game, just 1378 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:17,640 put it in the back of the fucking book. 1379 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,640 Like, and then we get all of the character art, which is 2 page 1380 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,800 spreads each before you ever know anything about like how the 1381 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,480 rules work. We've talked about this over and 1382 01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:29,280 over again. Yeah, I mean, we've talked about 1383 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,480 this several times, but not even like, hey, it's a dice pool 1384 01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:33,480 system. Like it doesn't even like. 1385 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,040 Nothing, nothing. And then and then we still 1386 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,880 haven't got any rules. Then you get lower. 1387 01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:43,320 That starts on page 26. It's another like lower thing, 1388 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,200 but weirdly in between those two sections like. 1389 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,000 The actual rules. Just put it before the character 1390 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:50,320 since you already have a bunch of shit there anyway. 1391 01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,360 Like if you're. Before the characters, yeah 1392 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,640 yeah, Nazis, all the vampires, yeah and then there the whole 1393 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,960 section on drop coffins could just be later in the book when 1394 01:14:59,960 --> 01:15:03,160 it talks about drop coffins, the mission briefing, this set, all 1395 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:05,080 of this art and this lore and stuff could just be on the. 1396 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,280 Briefing. I was like, why was that 1397 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:07,720 earlier? Because we're talking about it 1398 01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,360 now. We're talking about what the 1399 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,760 coffin fall is, so why wouldn't the lore of the coffin fall be 1400 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,120 with the coffin fall? Like I mean, this just feels 1401 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,560 like they wanted the art gallery in the front of the book, which 1402 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,800 I I it's gorgeous. I mean, again, this is one of 1403 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:22,280 the coolest spreads in the entire book, but it just feels 1404 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,120 like they they filled so much stuff in the front of the book 1405 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:26,720 when they could have just spaced it out. 1406 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,040 It it's the structure of the book is is crazy. 1407 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:34,040 So that is that is my kind of like don't like is perfect is 1408 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:35,800 just how. Much stuff you just said. 1409 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,560 All the stuff before that you actually get to any part of the 1410 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,760 game. What is yours? 1411 01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,120 My don't like is that so when you read the character 1412 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,280 descriptions, like the little blurb they do for characters, 1413 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,880 they give you these like personality types of these 1414 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:53,640 characters or like to a degree, like they're they're described 1415 01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,480 as people because this is like an RP game. 1416 01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:59,560 But like there's not pretty much any like mechanical 1417 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:05,000 reinforcement to RP. Like like if, if Chuck is a 1418 01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:12,200 jokester cowboy character, there's nothing in his character 1419 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,360 sheet that reinforces RP. Like I could play him as a 1420 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,200 sociopath cowboy. I mean, he's a cowboy hat, you 1421 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,840 know, like there's just not, there's not a lot of like 1422 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,560 reinforcement. I mean, I have an issue with 1423 01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,640 everything you just said, but I'm not rehashing that. 1424 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:29,440 But like I would like to see like, oh, Irena, is this like 1425 01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:34,840 posh Snooty vampire noble that uses domination magically? 1426 01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,320 I guess domination magic in that case is the reinforcement RP. 1427 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:42,480 But that's really an ability, you know, it'd be cool to have a 1428 01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:46,520 little bit more of that. I I agree with you, you know, 1429 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,920 definitely to a point. I think that the what, how they 1430 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,240 wrote the characters. I mean, one of the things that 1431 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:56,040 you said earlier is very much like, I don't remember what it 1432 01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:00,120 was, but the oh, when we were talking about like playing with 1433 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,320 identity and stuff like that. It's just like, so we gave you 1434 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:06,960 these characters but then did not give him any identifying 1435 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,440 anything. Make it your own kind of. 1436 01:17:08,440 --> 01:17:10,560 But then at that point, like why are you making me do a pre gin 1437 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,120 character? Just give me the pre gin 1438 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,200 character. Well, especially because they 1439 01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,160 took the time to say like, this is this character's personality, 1440 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,680 this is for this type of it's like, well, then, then wow, why 1441 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,120 give me something for it but not. 1442 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,600 Only that in that section it literally says like we even drew 1443 01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:27,280 the art so that you would know what we're saying. 1444 01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,120 Like when you look at like Astrid and stuff, it's just 1445 01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,120 like, OK, like we get it. We'll like we get that they they 1446 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,600 like in the in like the way that they intend this not just made 1447 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,080 this. I think Astrid probably is they 1448 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:44,840 them pronouns like just say that they do like it's a very weird 1449 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:49,040 like mix of like we're giving you their exact personality. 1450 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,880 We're telling you that identities and stuff exist, but 1451 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,760 we chose not to for this reason. It's just like, like it's very 1452 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,960 much half in and half out. Like if you're going to soapbox 1453 01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,840 this much about the stuff, then just make a statement and slap 1454 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,120 the stuff on there, you know? Yeah. 1455 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,960 I mean, and there's a lot of stuff with the little blurbs, 1456 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,480 like I said, like they talk about Cosgrave being for 1457 01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:12,880 somebody who can like creatively apply magic, but for like the 1458 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,040 most part when you get past the stolen soul jar, which is like 1459 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:21,160 applicable to anything, it's not. 1460 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,400 There's not a lot of flavor on the character sheets. 1461 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,600 It's really just the names of the abilities and stuff like 1462 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,960 that and that's pretty much it. I mean like like. 1463 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:33,560 He's got a knife, shotgun and. And the open application of 1464 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,160 magic, right? That's my favorite magic systems 1465 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,480 is like it's a light descriptor in how you apply it. 1466 01:18:37,480 --> 01:18:42,000 That's how you apply it. But just like if I raise a bunch 1467 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:48,360 of corpses for around a minute, like that's, that's that's what 1468 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,960 that does. Like there's not like I can make 1469 01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,360 them do stuff. I guess, like that's the 1470 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,640 creative application, right? But it's not like, oh, you have 1471 01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,680 the element of fire. Fucking figure out how you use 1472 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,920 that shit because like, you know, you can apply it and I 1473 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,920 could heat metal, I could summon the fire sword. 1474 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,520 I could, you know, I mean, like it doesn't feel as open into 1475 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,040 magic wise as like they are saying. 1476 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:09,280 It's like, oh, it's very creative. 1477 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,160 I mean, it's somewhat creative. And yeah, I mean, and I and I 1478 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,200 agree with you, but I also think that like what I try to keep my 1479 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,560 head all the time is that the game runs fast and designed to 1480 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,600 be played one time. Yeah, that's right. 1481 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:26,120 Quickly and like the like it's the they're pre gins, but like I 1482 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,200 still think that like a little bit more flavor in because like 1483 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,880 you said, like a lot of the abilities and stuff are pretty 1484 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,320 much the same thing. Like spin one blood, do this one 1485 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:36,640 thing, spin the thing, do this other thing. 1486 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,000 There's just not a lot of like actual mechanical. 1487 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,280 It's just more than names of the things that give you flavor, 1488 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,280 more than like anything that actually reinforces the 1489 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,720 character at all. I I think my my greatest issues 1490 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,520 with like the personality thing is like Nicole is very bit the 1491 01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,640 the gorilla fire is very bitter by being bitten by her 1492 01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,800 ex-girlfriend or whatever right, But like where is that anywhere? 1493 01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,720 How is that like? How? 1494 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:01,640 How can I reward my player for playing into that RP? 1495 01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:05,720 Yeah, it's it's. You could delete that and just 1496 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,560 hand the character sheet. And be the fucking same thing. 1497 01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,680 And that's what I said, like that's why it feels very half in 1498 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,920 half out with the characters. Like commit to the characters 1499 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,880 being the characters or commit to like letting people make 1500 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,120 their own characters and just giving them a set of stats. 1501 01:20:18,440 --> 01:20:20,360 It's it's it's very half in, half out. 1502 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,000 My beef with the character sheet while we're in here is the 1503 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,440 injuries thing. I said I was going to talk about 1504 01:20:24,440 --> 01:20:26,000 that earlier. They don't matter. 1505 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,960 I don't know why they're called category because it's not like a 1506 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,200 light injury, a medium injury or heavy injury. 1507 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,240 Like it's just injuries and you mark the first one and then the 1508 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,160 second one, but it's 6 injuries and then you roll AD 6. 1509 01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,560 It's like you could also easily, just like if you roll A4, just 1510 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,200 mark the 4th injury. It's just a weird way that they 1511 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,560 kind of like separated that out anyway, so. 1512 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:51,400 So my likes, I actually like a game that's made to do one thing 1513 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,640 and just does that one thing. I think that is a strength of 1514 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,480 this. I think that other people out 1515 01:20:57,480 --> 01:21:00,360 there writing games, they're like, this is my fantasy 1516 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:01,840 heartbreaker. Don't do that shit. 1517 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:06,160 Write a game for a scenario slash adventure. 1518 01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:10,240 Could be longer than this one, certainly, but like it does like 1519 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,080 I like that it's made to do a thing, you know? 1520 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:16,840 Also art and layout go crazy like. 1521 01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,360 Art and layout go crazy. That's the easy answer. 1522 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,360 I mean it's insane. It's insane again, visually and 1523 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,160 everything as a product. This goes crazy and that's what 1524 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,000 I wrote for my like the obvious and true answer is that the art 1525 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,640 and vibes are off the fucking chain. 1526 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,560 But like we talked about this before. 1527 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:34,280 I think that the bloodship returns. 1528 01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,960 The Super blood harvest does this way better. 1529 01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:42,200 Like it it it wrote an adventure, wrote enough rules. 1530 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,000 So you were run that adventure. But this one kind of feels like 1531 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,680 they wanted to do that and then went, Oh, we can make something 1532 01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,160 this havoc engine thing. Let's make it SRD able, you know 1533 01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,280 what I mean? And then toss it in there like, 1534 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,640 I don't know, the system doesn't feel built for this. 1535 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,760 I don't know. Anyway, so those are likes and 1536 01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,000 dislikes. So let's run through the the 1537 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,480 metrics of what we we do real quick and then we'll we'll score 1538 01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:05,280 this and get out of here. So those don't know what we do. 1539 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:10,960 We do score our game, our our terrible opinions with metrics. 1540 01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,440 And we have mashed those metrics together, whether it's Zine or a 1541 01:22:14,440 --> 01:22:18,920 book into these six. And we use five of them to score 1542 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,360 books and three of them to score zines. 1543 01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,920 It is art and layout, usability, rule set, originality, value and 1544 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,960 vibes. So art and layout I think is 1545 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,720 going to be the easiest one that we're not going to take really 1546 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,080 any time on. It fucks. 1547 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:30,640 It fucks so hard. This is one of the most 1548 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:32,320 beautiful books I've ever picked up. 1549 01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:34,760 Yeah, it's unbelievable to look at. 1550 01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,120 Like it really is like such a treat to go through it. 1551 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,920 I mean, and like it's so quality all the way through. 1552 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:45,320 And I love just even the pages with like there's no page has no 1553 01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,240 art, let's be clear. But like the pages that are like 1554 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,480 art minimal, they're just like these dossier pages. 1555 01:22:49,480 --> 01:22:52,240 But even now, they like these mark through these little notes, 1556 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:57,080 like little like page ender art or stuff clipped on the side. 1557 01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:01,160 It's just such a it's so great. Like every page is like that, 1558 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:02,280 yeah. It's crazy. 1559 01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:06,040 You know what this this really like brought forward into my 1560 01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:11,320 head was never going home and remember how much just hated 1561 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:15,320 that it was like it it made it was made for the page to look 1562 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:17,600 like a fake page versus. This. 1563 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:24,200 Versus this where it is a a top down of a page on a table. 1564 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,200 It's not trying to make the page look like a dossier page. 1565 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:28,920 And there's like a similar. Picture of the dossier. 1566 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,920 Page like around some of the pages or like other stuff 1567 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,480 clipped on the side or this? Is this is such a better way to 1568 01:23:33,480 --> 01:23:35,920 do it? And not only that, it is 1569 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:39,680 readable the whole way through with a very simple one column 1570 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,760 straight down thing. But like you said, I went 1571 01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:47,040 through this book multiple times just to look at each page and 1572 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,680 see the little notes and the little funny shit that they 1573 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,120 added. Like the little add on bits like 1574 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,360 you said, the garlic, the the tongue just hanging off one of 1575 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:55,680 them. Like the little clips and shit. 1576 01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,240 It's crazy. How much do you tell when to 1577 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:01,200 every single page? The art budget on this had to be 1578 01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,600 through the roof like it had to. Be. 1579 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:08,680 Astronomical like it's good. I hope, I hope will Kirby will 1580 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,000 Kirby because they're the I think they did the illustration 1581 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,320 layout as well, I think. Illustration and layout, yeah. 1582 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,520 Odds and Anne said that in the chat, and I believe that's 1583 01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,880 right, yeah. Art and graphics Art and graphic 1584 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,560 design is Will Kirkby. Words. 1585 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,360 Grant Howard. Additional word James Mendez 1586 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,040 Hoads. Editing and proofreading Miles 1587 01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:25,520 Hamilton Production Miles Hamilton. 1588 01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,160 Whenever they paid them, they should have paid them more. 1589 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,880 Yeah, and and it still is incredible. 1590 01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,080 It's incredible. It's incredible. 1591 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:36,880 All right, usability. So I mean, I think, OK, let's do 1592 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:41,000 pros, let's do the good shit. First of all, PDF remediation 1593 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,720 from diet sugars. Fucking massive bonus points for 1594 01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,360 you right there. Does it have hyperlinks? 1595 01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,480 You better fucking believe it. Does it have inline hyperlinks? 1596 01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:51,120 You better fucking believe it. Like kill it with that. 1597 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,000 Not only that, we already talked about the fact that all of the 1598 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:56,760 character sheets in the game book itself, not even just in 1599 01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:00,400 the book, the character sheet PDF that you get in the game 1600 01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:04,000 book are form fillable. It's so funny they're form 1601 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,240 fillable in the book too. Because like for me, I would 1602 01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,120 have this on my iPad and I'd mark my my characters playing 1603 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,280 and I would probably quick scroll every once in a while to. 1604 01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:16,200 Keep with up with what they're doing. 1605 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,200 Absolutely. Does it have bookmarks? 1606 01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,400 Yep, it fucking does. Bookmark The hell. 1607 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,000 So for all of the things that we want from a usability 1608 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,160 standpoint, doesn't have a bookmark in the physical? 1609 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,600 No, it's it's a paperback. It's a soft cover book. 1610 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,760 It's fine. It's it's great. 1611 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,840 It's it's it's. They also came with a bookmark, 1612 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,320 so. Yeah, if you got to the tier you 1613 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,400 could get with a the bookmark and shit, yeah, it's crazy. 1614 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,680 So so from a usability standpoint, for all the things 1615 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:45,360 that we complain about killed it right now actual book itself, I 1616 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,240 think the structure of the book is poor. 1617 01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,120 Yeah. I think that again, 30 pages 1618 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,240 before you hit a rule, you get the weird the drop ship stuff 1619 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,840 that could be elder places, everything we talked about. 1620 01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,880 Like I think that also the structure later, like at the 1621 01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:03,800 back of the book has an appendix in before we didn't even talk 1622 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,840 about this. The appendix in and inspirations 1623 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,240 is before you get to the part about hacking and making your 1624 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,080 own characters. So it's like, here's more rules. 1625 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,600 But after we do the appendix in bit, which should be the last 1626 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,040 thing, was a weird way to put that in there. 1627 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,360 There's a lot of places. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty poorly 1628 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,560 put together. Like it's not super easy to 1629 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,480 parse through. There are a lot of places where 1630 01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:29,560 rules could be clarified. Like I still think it's super 1631 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,880 weird that the core dice mechanic is just a graphic. 1632 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,840 At no point is it ever actually written out. 1633 01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:40,320 And yeah, and like the, I don't know. 1634 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,560 Yeah, those are, I think as far as from a usability standpoint, 1635 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,640 those are those are the beefs. What do we have? 1636 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,200 I have no, I have no notes to add towards usability. 1637 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:49,800 I mean, you pretty much covered everything. 1638 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,760 I even like I start, I typed out some notes and I erased them and 1639 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,560 I just put C above because like you pretty much hit every beat 1640 01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,400 that I would have talked about. Yeah. 1641 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:05,600 Yeah, that's pretty much it. But you said yeah, rule set, so 1642 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,440 it's fine. I like the Havoc engine. 1643 01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:09,920 I think the Havoc engine would be better served in a more 1644 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,600 open-ended game. Yeah, weirdly, we talked about 1645 01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,040 this too. I think this is a better Blades 1646 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,720 in the Dark. It is a dice pool game. 1647 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:21,280 It uses clocks. It has flashbacks like it, but 1648 01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,680 it's all of it is done in a way that I like much better. 1649 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,200 I think the clocks and everything are much better than 1650 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:26,480 approach and all the rest of that stuff. 1651 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:31,040 I think the threat pool from GM to the cool mechanic that I 1652 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:32,920 really enjoy a lot, the allocation of the dice I think 1653 01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,080 is really cool. The flashbacks, even though they 1654 01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,040 really don't fucking matter. Basically it's just like quick 1655 01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,120 chat with each other real quick and I'll give you 2 bonus dice 1656 01:27:40,120 --> 01:27:41,080 I. Kind of like that they're a 1657 01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,600 little bit less meaningful because it means you have them 1658 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,040 and you can build a little back story for your character or 1659 01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,400 relationships they have and then you get like a little bonus for 1660 01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:49,400 it. But I mean re rolling all your 1661 01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,680 dice is not a little bonus. Adding two dice is a little 1662 01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,600 bonus statistically, but yeah. Both, I mean that's it's 1663 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,040 significant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1664 01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,560 I think it's it's a way better flashback. 1665 01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:01,600 I agree because, you know, I hate Blades in the Dark 1666 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,360 flashbacks because I hate the idea of just being like, because 1667 01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,520 I like people having the consequences of their actions 1668 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,320 and that yeah, you. Know I really like Ocean's 11 1669 01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,040 that much. So the things that I really 1670 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:14,160 dislike most about blades at its very core is all the ways in 1671 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,480 which you can do a thing and then take it back. 1672 01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,600 Like there's a million ways where you can be like, I did 1673 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:20,640 this thing. Oh, I fucked up. 1674 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:21,960 Never mind, I do this. Never mind. 1675 01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:22,640 I do this. Never mind. 1676 01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:23,640 I did flashback. I did this. 1677 01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,320 Like you never actually suffer the consequences of your 1678 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,160 actions. I'd like this better. 1679 01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:31,000 I'm saying that I don't think it's, again, it's not as 1680 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,600 mechanically been interesting as the flashback where you can 1681 01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,680 actually change the situation, but I don't like that you can do 1682 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:38,000 that. So I like this flashback better. 1683 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,160 Injuries, I talked about that. They're weird. 1684 01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:43,840 I don't understand why they're called categories because 1685 01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,760 there's no actual categories listed. 1686 01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,640 It's weird that there's six injuries and you and you can 1687 01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:52,360 roll D6, but if you roll like a four, you actually mark the 1688 01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:55,160 third injury, which is in the first injury in category 2. 1689 01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,800 It's just like, I get it. But like I think there's some, I 1690 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,320 don't know there. There's something missing or 1691 01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:01,640 not, certainly. They can clamp that rule, I 1692 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:03,680 agree. Yeah, Like they literally could 1693 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,360 just have it to be like, but but it's not even like a light 1694 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:07,800 injury, medium injury, heavy injury. 1695 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,000 Like they're different, like they're different. 1696 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:12,840 You know, it's not. You can just be like if you if 1697 01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:14,800 you roll this one, do the next hire, it doesn't make a 1698 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:18,360 difference. Reinforcements. 1699 01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,320 I just think I would just do the caveat every time. 1700 01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,760 That just seems like a pain in the butt and then already talked 1701 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:25,760 about flashbacks are better in my opinion. 1702 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:29,960 But really like are for narrative, not for mechanical. 1703 01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,160 Obviously, like the reroll is mechanical, but you know what I 1704 01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:33,960 mean? Like it's not intrinsic to the 1705 01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:35,880 game in the way the flashbacks are intrinsic to blades. 1706 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,680 It's basically just like cool narrative building, but they are 1707 01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:43,320 in my opinion and not mechanically meaningful as much 1708 01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,040 as they're narratively meaningful for building back 1709 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,080 story. What about you? 1710 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,920 You know, I yeah, I like this rule set more in Blades. 1711 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,440 I think that it it works well for this. 1712 01:29:53,480 --> 01:29:56,400 I also agree maybe work better and more open-ended thing. 1713 01:29:56,400 --> 01:30:01,000 I mean, my major thing is like, I'd like to see more like GM 1714 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,720 incentivization for like characters to RP. 1715 01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:07,440 Like, I wish that there was a mechanic for incentivizing RP 1716 01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:12,960 from the GM side to the players. The reinforcement rule I, I 1717 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:14,440 agree with needs to be cleaned up. 1718 01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:19,520 And yeah, I think the injury track, mounting injury track 1719 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:24,480 would be maybe more, you know, something. 1720 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,080 Yeah, I I overall like this system, you know? 1721 01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:29,400 I do, I do. Yeah. 1722 01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,280 I just feel, I don't know, I, I feel, and we haven't played it 1723 01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:33,440 yet and I would like to play this. 1724 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,120 I'm not going to run it. I just feel like there's some 1725 01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,080 type of disconnect between the system. 1726 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,640 Like it just feels, if I'm going to run this game, I feel like I 1727 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:44,120 want a little bit more. I want a little bit more from 1728 01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:45,440 the characters. I want a little bit more from 1729 01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:48,160 the system. I don't feel like the system has 1730 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:55,000 any bearing or any meaningful reinforcement of killing Nazis 1731 01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:56,480 as vampires. You know what I mean? 1732 01:30:56,480 --> 01:30:59,160 Like it's just like I said, it feels like an SRD. 1733 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,680 It feels like they went, oh, this could be something, let's 1734 01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:03,360 make it an SRD, we'll stick it in here. 1735 01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:07,600 It works, but none of it really reinforces fighting using 1736 01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,000 vampires to kill knots like I think it. 1737 01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:10,800 Would work like I think it works. 1738 01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:12,520 You know, but you're right, anything can't work. 1739 01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:17,200 It's not like a bespoke like rule system that reinforces the 1740 01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,560 exact type of game. Which is funny because this game 1741 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,440 is a wanted like adventure game. That is the thing. 1742 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,720 The whole point of the game is to run this one adventure. 1743 01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,440 But you put a system in that could be used for fucking 1744 01:31:28,440 --> 01:31:30,400 anything. If you're going to make a game, 1745 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:33,440 that is one thing. There's a weird disconnect in 1746 01:31:33,440 --> 01:31:35,480 having a system that they're clearly going to use for a bunch 1747 01:31:35,480 --> 01:31:39,880 of other stuff be used for that game that does that one thing. 1748 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:43,040 Like, I would have much rather if the game was really made to 1749 01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,840 be this game. There's a weird disconnect 1750 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,040 there. All right. 1751 01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:52,200 Originality. I mean, it's vampire and 1752 01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,600 glorious bastards and I know in the appendix and they said we 1753 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,440 don't really like it. That's all that that's what this 1754 01:31:57,440 --> 01:31:58,440 is. It's vampire and glorious 1755 01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:01,840 bastards even to the point of the way that Hitler dies at the 1756 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,240 end and shit, that's all it is. So I don't know if that's 1757 01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:09,760 original or not. I think when you look at art and 1758 01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,360 production and like drop coffins and some of the Lord and shit, I 1759 01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,760 think there's a lot of really great originality with that. 1760 01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,640 I think getting to play vampires is really cool. 1761 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,680 You don't actually get to do that a lot to be the good guys. 1762 01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,400 As anti hero vampires. It's it's Suicide Squad meets 1763 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:29,320 and glorious Basterds, but as vampires and I think that's cool 1764 01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:33,480 as shit. I, I don't think it's not 1765 01:32:33,480 --> 01:32:35,800 original. I just don't like, I don't know 1766 01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:37,240 where I stand on it. What are your thoughts? 1767 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,960 It's fine. Yeah. 1768 01:32:42,440 --> 01:32:44,760 That's where I'm at. I mean, you know, there are 1769 01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:50,200 parts of it that are, yeah, like you said, there's, there's some 1770 01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,960 original aspects to this. And it's a cool vampire game. 1771 01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,440 And I love being, I love vampire games, love being a little 1772 01:32:55,440 --> 01:32:58,840 vampire boy. And hey, I think, you know, in 1773 01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:05,600 games, Nazi should all die in game, you know, and maybe other 1774 01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:09,240 places. But yeah, I I think this is it's 1775 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,200 fine. You know, yeah, it's, it's cool. 1776 01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,080 You know it's cool. I mean like once again, the 1777 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,320 things don't have to be wholly original to be cool or fun. 1778 01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,800 So if you're like, I agree, you're honey, you're an asshole 1779 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,400 for saying it's fine. This part it maybe matters the 1780 01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,480 least. You know you can rehash 1781 01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:26,400 something 100 times and they'll still be cool. 1782 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,520 Yeah, I mean, and we didn't even talk about the Uber mention like 1783 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,040 the the boss fight bad guys are incredible. 1784 01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,200 And let's scroll through the art real quick for for like the Rust 1785 01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:40,040 Witch and and stuff like these are your set scene mini boss bad 1786 01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,280 guys before you get to Hitler. And they're cool as shit. 1787 01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,240 Yeah, they're really, really cool. 1788 01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:46,240 They're there. It is literally a set scene 1789 01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:47,880 piece where you battle these guys. 1790 01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,080 They have a lot of crazy cool abilities. 1791 01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:52,960 You know, it's really interesting. 1792 01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,800 So I mean, I like all of that. I like that aspect of all of it. 1793 01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:00,960 You know, we'll get there. So value wise, the PDF is 15 1794 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:02,400 bucks, the softcover is 30 bucks. 1795 01:34:02,440 --> 01:34:03,680 I think that's great fucking value. 1796 01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,200 I think it's. That's a it's a crazy price for 1797 01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:09,240 how good for that fucking softcover book looks like 30 1798 01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,320 bucks for that fucking criminal, you know? 1799 01:34:11,480 --> 01:34:17,040 Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. And then vibes Immaculate 1800 01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:18,000 through the. Immaculate. 1801 01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,320 You're really good. I think they'd be better if 1802 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:24,240 there was a rule system in this that really reinforced what this 1803 01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:26,840 game is. Yeah, I think it's taken. 1804 01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,640 This is one of the reasons I love doing the show and I loved 1805 01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,880 in the show with you is I have thoughts, I have opinions, and 1806 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,800 then they get to mature as we talk about them and I can really 1807 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,440 crystallize my thoughts and opinions. 1808 01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:40,880 And I think there's something about this game that has been 1809 01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,200 bugging me from the beginning. Aside from like the soapboxing 1810 01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:48,040 30 pages, right? It's that there is a disconnect 1811 01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:53,120 between the rule set and the and what this game wants to be. 1812 01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:55,560 And the actual activity of what this game is, yeah. 1813 01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,080 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and I think it a big part 1814 01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:03,640 of it is because the rules are generic and I think even the 1815 01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,640 characters like sheets are generic. 1816 01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,080 You could just rename the abilities to anything and make 1817 01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:10,360 it not vampires, you know what I mean? 1818 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,680 Yeah, so. And why did you say that out 1819 01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:15,320 loud? Now I can. 1820 01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:16,840 Now it's in my head. Like, yeah. 1821 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:20,160 You can just pick anything. If the ability is like use plus 1822 01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:23,240 one blood to to make these four dudes attack. 1823 01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:26,440 It's like you could just be like use plus one energy and fire. 1824 01:35:26,440 --> 01:35:28,360 Off your missile launcher. Yeah, now it's a space. 1825 01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:33,640 Game like, it's all extraordinarily generic for this 1826 01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:37,520 one. Super hyper focused adventure. 1827 01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:40,600 Yeah, The thing is, like, I haven't like the idea of a rule 1828 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,000 set being generic. That bothers me. 1829 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,200 Like a lot of them are because they're made to be open-ended. 1830 01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,000 Like you're running your adventure in the Black Hack or 1831 01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:48,600 whatever. Like it's going to be whatever 1832 01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,600 it is, you know? But like, this is just this 1833 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:52,960 thing, OK. I don't want to take any more of 1834 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,680 our time, but yeah. No, I mean I got a couple more 1835 01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,400 things before we we wrap because there was a couple more because 1836 01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:00,320 it's not. Just the problem to that. 1837 01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:02,160 Oh yeah, we've already been going along. 1838 01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:04,000 It's not just the beginning of that stuff. 1839 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,360 There's a section later in the book after running the game. 1840 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,680 The running the game section is only 2 pages long. 1841 01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:15,800 Actual like, like instruction for helping you actually run the 1842 01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,000 game is only 2 pages. Again, we've already said 1843 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:22,160 there's 13 pages about like the identity and religion and all 1844 01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:26,640 the rest of the stuff. 2 pages and actually running it and then 1845 01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,320 you get a whole a whole page share for being a Nazi for 1846 01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:33,640 pretend where it like look it might come up. 1847 01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:35,920 No shit you're going to your NP CS are going to be Nazis. 1848 01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:38,960 Like you don't need this much words to be like you're not a 1849 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:43,280 Nazi if you happen to have to be 1 for an NPC, but like, but be 1850 01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,280 careful when you embody an NPC directly. 1851 01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:47,640 Taking on the role of someone whose heartfelt beliefs are so 1852 01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,280 absolutely reprehensible as part of a fun game you're playing 1853 01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,840 with your friends can be tricky to handle whilst making sure 1854 01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:54,760 everyone is enjoying themselves. Not to mention if anyone 1855 01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:57,760 overhears your conversation free of context, Don't worry, I'm 1856 01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,400 only pretending to be a Nazi. That's such a weird no one 1857 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,760 thought that. No one thought that. 1858 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,200 That's so odd. It's so odd, so bizarre. 1859 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:09,680 It's so funny. Like no one thought that. 1860 01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:12,240 And then like there's a section here on like, but not Hitler. 1861 01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,640 Hitler doesn't get a voice, which is a weird thing. 1862 01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,960 Also a whole page here, which obviously which has a dope piece 1863 01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:19,960 of Chuck on it. I won't agree on accents. 1864 01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:22,520 A section here on accents where it literally talked about like 1865 01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:27,200 to do or not to accent. Like again, it's it's it's if 1866 01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,840 you needed this at all in this game, throw it in the back of 1867 01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,880 the book. It's weird to in between running 1868 01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:35,480 the game and actually getting to the adventure in the game, you 1869 01:37:35,480 --> 01:37:39,200 have a page on whether to use accents, accents or not Put this 1870 01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:40,920 up in the character stuff or stick in the back of the book. 1871 01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,120 Why are you sticking it in between running the game and 1872 01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:46,760 then the the adventure? And then you get to a page that 1873 01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,880 doesn't say this is where the adventure starts. 1874 01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,400 And then before you start breaking into like the actual 1875 01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,400 adventure, which is really a pick your own thing because it's 1876 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,880 just like pick pick three from each sector and run with it. 1877 01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:58,760 I don't know. But like the part about like 1878 01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:02,280 Hitler not getting a voice is a weird thing to me because it's 1879 01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,400 just like, it's so anticlimactic. 1880 01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,920 And I understand that that's on purpose but like there's no 1881 01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,800 actual direction for GM's on how to make this happen. 1882 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:15,080 So now Hitler's face to face with the squad of furious, 1883 01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:19,120 bloody Allied vampires, blah blah blah, the bad guy should 1884 01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:20,760 have a dramatic final monologue, right? 1885 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:22,960 Wrong. Fuck it, he doesn't get 1. 1886 01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:24,920 He runs like hellis and his vampire arrives and he's 1887 01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,640 cowering in a locker room with an empty Luger when they defeat 1888 01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,960 his protectors and corner him. He's been coordinating the 1889 01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,080 defense this whole time. It's gone wrong at every turn. 1890 01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,080 He's out of options. He doesn't even get to sound 1891 01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,680 confident and use long words to give him the impression of 1892 01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,080 majesty or honor or any of that bullshit. 1893 01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,320 Kill him, wars over, go home, that's the end of the game. 1894 01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,000 And I'm like I agree, don't give him a voice, don't make him like 1895 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,880 a cool character at the end. But like that is not an 1896 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:52,200 instruction on how AGM should make that happen. 1897 01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:55,720 No figure it out. Kill him, war is over, go home. 1898 01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,760 Like and like your your players are going to want to do more 1899 01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,280 than that. Like you make this whole game 1900 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,000 about getting to Hitler and like cool and killing him and you're 1901 01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,040 supposed to just like stick a bull in his head and walk away. 1902 01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:08,240 And it's just like the characters are going to want to 1903 01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,760 do more than that. You had this is 2 paragraphs on 1904 01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,840 an entire hire a huge page. Can you please give some 1905 01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,640 instruction on how to be like They might want to have a 1906 01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:19,640 conversation. This is how to steer it. 1907 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,640 They might want to. There is no direction for this 1908 01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:23,640 game at all. They're running. 1909 01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:29,160 The game such as 2 pages it's like I. 1910 01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:33,960 Agree with you, don't give him like a cool final speech 100% 1911 01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:38,960 but like that is not always going to be an easy thing for 1912 01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,280 GM's to manage. Please give more direction for 1913 01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,200 that. Anyway, so that's the last bit I 1914 01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:45,520 have. I know we missed some stuff in 1915 01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:47,080 the game. Like again, I think the Uber 1916 01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,360 mentions are really cool. Then there's a whole a whole 1917 01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:52,960 evil calibration checklist which fine it. 1918 01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,680 Like, there's other stuff in this game if you have listened 1919 01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:56,960 to our view and you want to dive deeper. 1920 01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,240 Yeah, but. What I'm saying is like, does 1921 01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,440 this need to be in here? Like evil inherent to the 1922 01:40:01,440 --> 01:40:03,600 setting, evil you engage with your fight. 1923 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,400 You're not. You're not seasoned vampires and 1924 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,040 shit at least. It's in the back of the book. 1925 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:08,720 At least it's close to the back of the book. 1926 01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:14,280 Yeah, you know what I mean? Anyway, OK, so let's. 1927 01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,440 Rate this thing. Rate this thing. 1928 01:40:16,440 --> 01:40:18,400 So again we're going to do art, layout, usability, rule set, 1929 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,160 originality and value for scores. 1930 01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,800 So art and layout. And what are? 1931 01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:28,160 You I Yeah, I I. It's been a lot of times. 1932 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,840 There's nothing you could possibly say that convinced me. 1933 01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,360 Like, you know what I mean? Like it's crazy. 1934 01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:36,560 It's been a long time since we gave a 10 for this. 1935 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:40,920 This is and you know what's crazy too is like this is a 10 1936 01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:42,520 in a way that's a little bit different from Mark Board 1937 01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:47,400 because mark board really mark board really takes the the 1938 01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:51,520 layout almost more than the art the layout and makes it art. 1939 01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,920 You know what I mean? Like the font and like the 1940 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,560 colors and stuff like this. The layout is gorgeous in this, 1941 01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:01,000 but the actual like word layout, same font almost the entire way 1942 01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:04,360 through straight down the middle of single column and it is still 1943 01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,040 gorgeous and readable and perfect. 1944 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:11,360 Easy 10 easy 10 usability. So this one's hard because it 1945 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:14,120 has every digital tool we want, including PDF remediation for 1946 01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:18,320 the wonderful dye sugars. But the structure of the book as 1947 01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:25,240 a as a book to use pour pour like again, I'm if ever, if you 1948 01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:28,480 want to keep every word in this book, include everything. 1949 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,160 So much of that should just be in the back of the book with 1950 01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:32,920 where the evil calibration checklist is. 1951 01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,040 Should be all the stuff on identity and religion and all 1952 01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,200 the rest of it. I agree and. 1953 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,560 Actually, like a lot of the stuff I'm like, you should have 1954 01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:40,760 this in the book. Like I think there's a lot of 1955 01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:42,840 important information. It is very odd to have this 1956 01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:47,320 before we even get to the game. A lot of this stuff, I think 1957 01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:49,720 that like, I think a lot of this is really very good. 1958 01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:54,280 But yeah, maybe put it in it in like, hey, an appendix on the 1959 01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,680 culture of like this time period, the people who went 1960 01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:59,400 through it and like the and participated in it, you know, 1961 01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:00,800 like. And like and be really cool and. 1962 01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,640 It'd be cool because it would allow me to like partition it 1963 01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:05,240 internally where I'm like cool, read the game. 1964 01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:09,080 Oh that's it's own appendix. Cool man, I want to read through 1965 01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,280 that not. Only that that would also let 1966 01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:15,360 you take that appendix and like fucking print it off and be 1967 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,680 like, hey, this is kind of how I run all my fucking games. 1968 01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,200 You know what I mean? Like it's and again, it's so 1969 01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,080 weird that it's so scattered and also so front of the book. 1970 01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:25,040 We said this over and over again. 1971 01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:26,800 We agree with every fucking word. 1972 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:28,480 Grant how it's got it on the fucking nose. 1973 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:33,760 Fuck Nazis, free Palestine, trans right to human rights 100% 1974 01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:38,000 like we agree with every fucking word as a product structure, it 1975 01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:41,400 better like that's it. So this is hard again because. 1976 01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:46,360 I think I'm, I'm leaning towards A7, you know, I think it like, 1977 01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:50,360 yeah, it's a kind of a mess to navigate by scrolling and the 1978 01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,880 words in. But like a lot of the usability 1979 01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,480 tools make up for that gap in a meaningful way. 1980 01:42:55,480 --> 01:42:58,200 Not to get it to like a nine or eight, but yeah. 1981 01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:01,760 But my issue though is like the the point of those tools isn't 1982 01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:06,640 to make your poorly structured book usable, it's to it's to use 1983 01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:08,480 a book. So I don't disagree with you, I 1984 01:43:08,480 --> 01:43:09,720 think 7 is a good number for this. 1985 01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:11,960 You think we need to? Go down to six or what? 1986 01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:13,200 No. I think 7 is a good number, but 1987 01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,160 I think it's very much like it's not a 7 because it's a 7. 1988 01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:21,320 It's a 7 because all of the bad parts are redeemed by parts that 1989 01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:23,320 are really good. Like, you know what I mean? 1990 01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,960 Like it's not like we're like, oh, this feels like a 7. 1991 01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:29,120 It's like it feels like a four mixed with a nine. 1992 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,480 So we're slapping into A7. I'm kind of now going down to 1993 01:43:31,480 --> 01:43:34,800 six honestly, and also thinking about the need to clean up some 1994 01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:38,960 of the rules language. Yeah, we'll go 6 on it. 1995 01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:40,840 Yeah, I'm fine with that. All right. 1996 01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:45,440 Rule set fine. It's fun I. 1997 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,000 Like it better than Blades? We've done a million dice pool 1998 01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,120 games this year. This one's OK. 1999 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:57,160 It's not the best one 7. Yeah, yeah. 2000 01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:59,560 Let's give it the yeah, yeah, yeah. 2001 01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:05,080 Yeah, I, I, I like this system. I just don't, I genuinely don't 2002 01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:06,840 think I like this this system in this game. 2003 01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:09,840 I think this system, I'm curious what Roanoke and Decker are 2004 01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,840 going to use the havoc engine for going forward, because I I'd 2005 01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:16,520 like this system, but I think this system is really designed 2006 01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:21,840 would sing more in an open game than a game designed for this 2007 01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:25,160 one specific thing. You know, 7 sounds good. 2008 01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:32,160 Originality. This is a hard one because I 2009 01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:38,000 mean because also point me to another vampire anti hero game 2010 01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,360 because vampire masquerading them are not you play those 2011 01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,560 guys. Are you really ever the hero? 2012 01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:44,520 Definitely not. No, that's. 2013 01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:46,440 Definitely never. The meaning of that game is for 2014 01:44:46,440 --> 01:44:48,440 you to be the hero. So like, show me a vampire game 2015 01:44:48,440 --> 01:44:51,200 where you get to be Suicide Squadron, Glorious Basterds or 2016 01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:52,600 anything. Show me another game where you 2017 01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:54,680 just get to kill Nazis. Never going home, right? 2018 01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,960 Yeah, I mean, if we have a video games Wolfenstein. 2019 01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,200 You know what they mentioned? What they played through so. 2020 01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,120 There's like 3 pages of appendix in for like all the the the 2021 01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:05,960 stuff for this. But I don't think, I don't think 2022 01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:08,440 there's any unoriginality to this whatsoever. 2023 01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,040 No, I think it blows me out of the water at all. 2024 01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,840 I also think that they've taken more from Inglorious bastards 2025 01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:17,160 than they think they have. It is just vampire inglorious 2026 01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:19,520 bastards. It really is even to like. 2027 01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:21,880 Spoiler alert for people that have been watching Glorious 2028 01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:23,240 Bastards. Also, Tarantino's a fucking 2029 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:26,440 hack. They just walk up to 8 off and 2030 01:45:26,440 --> 01:45:27,960 shoot him in the face like immediately. 2031 01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:30,320 Like that's it. He gets no model, like he gets 2032 01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:31,280 nothing. Just walk him and shoot him, 2033 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:32,800 which is exactly what they do in this game. 2034 01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,520 And I think I, I honestly think that was a big inspiration to be 2035 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:37,760 like, well, don't let him talk, just kill him. 2036 01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:42,880 Like it's just, it's just inglorious bastards. 2037 01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:47,240 What do you think? I'm thinking like a 6.5. 2038 01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:50,760 Oh bro, I was in my head between the six and the seven. 2039 01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:52,120 So like you got to pick one. I picked. 2040 01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,080 I picked ruleset, so I picked this one. 2041 01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:59,120 Man, what are you doing? Sorry, there's a cat doing 2042 01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:00,600 stuff. I think. 2043 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:03,240 I I think it's seven. You're right. 2044 01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,680 You know, there's I already had. 7 dialed in. 2045 01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,840 I'm so glad that we are like almost always within .5 of each 2046 01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:14,000 other, which is crazy value. OK, so so just cost alone is 2047 01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:18,120 incredible. But again, the you also get in 2048 01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:22,600 the PDF, you get a black and white like print easy screen 2049 01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,800 reader easy. Like, I mean, you remove all of 2050 01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:28,040 the art, which is absolutely stunning, except except for and 2051 01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:29,560 I I the first thing. What do you think? 2052 01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,280 The first page I went to when I was like, oh, there's a screen 2053 01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:34,800 reader easy, all black and white. 2054 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,240 Gotta be easy page. What's the first page you think 2055 01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:38,440 I went to to see what they did with it? 2056 01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:41,840 I don't know what page. The dice graphic, Yep, they just 2057 01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:43,720 made it black and white and left that and they didn't write it. 2058 01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:46,680 Yet so funny but. You get a black and white print 2059 01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:50,640 version of it obviously. I honestly think that sometimes 2060 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,320 the value of the access, the usability tools have to be 2061 01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:56,240 factored in. But you get character sheets. 2062 01:46:56,480 --> 01:46:59,280 There is a lot of this stuff for it. 2063 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:00,920 And even though you can only play the game once, 2064 01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:04,600 realistically I do think that there is solid value in it. 2065 01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:07,640 And 30 bucks for this is insane. Whether you like the game or 2066 01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:09,680 not. Like just physically having how 2067 01:47:09,680 --> 01:47:13,080 beautiful this is on your shelf is worth 30 bucks to me even if 2068 01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:16,360 you never even crack the cover. What do you think on value? 2069 01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:21,160 I think it's pretty good. I mean, I think for me the value 2070 01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:24,280 statements kind of like lowered by the fact it's one adventure, 2071 01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:27,200 you know? Yeah, but I mean, I will say 2072 01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,840 though, they do have in the back ways to hack, make your own 2073 01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,200 vampires, ways to continue this afterwards where they're like, 2074 01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,960 you might have taken off, taken out Adolf, but how about taking 2075 01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,800 out like Himmler and like all these other guys go take out his 2076 01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:41,800 generals or like take out those guys first, you know what I 2077 01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:43,840 mean? Like they do have. 2078 01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:47,760 Some likes to it for sure. If you really want to, but they 2079 01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:50,560 very much, I feel like a lot of that stuff is very much like 2080 01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,600 maybe we should give them just a little bit more. 2081 01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:56,520 We did make $400,000 I. Don't know. 2082 01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,920 I think I'm at like a 7 something, yeah. 2083 01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:04,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, what do you, what do you 2084 01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:05,760 think? I mean, I'm between the seven 2085 01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,320 and eight. I do think even I know we talk 2086 01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:11,720 about value as bang for your buck, but just cost alone $30.00 2087 01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:15,880 I think is a great deal. No, let's go 7 because I mean 2088 01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,720 we've said this before the fucking hardcover foiled no, I 2089 01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:20,760 mean the UV spotting and everything on it. 2090 01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,520 I don't know. I am kind of leaning towards an 2091 01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:29,040 8 on value for this all right, so that is our scores. 2092 01:48:30,440 --> 01:48:38,680 So we got a 10 plus a 6 + 14 + 8 comes out to a 38. 2093 01:48:39,440 --> 01:48:42,840 Which man, we give a lot of 30 eights exactly, which means this 2094 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,760 game is fine. Yeah, fine. 2095 01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:51,080 It's great art. Art obviously carries and we're 2096 01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:54,600 not super sold on the system for this game. 2097 01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,640 I, I think we said this before and, and I think now this is 2098 01:48:57,640 --> 01:48:59,080 going to encourage us to go over it. 2099 01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:03,320 I think that the intent of this was done better with Super Blood 2100 01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,760 Harvest from Dirk Detweiler. We'll go over that same kind of 2101 01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,680 idea where it's like a system designed to run an adventure. 2102 01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:12,880 And so we'll see. We'll see how you guys all think 2103 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,360 about that going forward. That is us. 2104 01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:18,160 I don't think it's already Saturday, so we're not doing war 2105 01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:22,200 games. Catch me next Wednesday talking 2106 01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:26,560 to people from over at Grafton and catch us next Friday for 2107 01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:30,160 something. Something. 2108 01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:31,800 All right, we're out. See you later. 2109 01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:32,760 Bye. Bye.