1 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,000 Hello, and welcome to the weekly. 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,600 Scroll podcast brought to you by the adventure archive, my name 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,200 is Ryan. And with me today, we have a 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,400 very wonderful special guest Kirby of disaster or is mm, how 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,700 you doing? Want to Kirby, I'm doing, pretty 6 00:00:28,700 --> 00:00:29,600 great. How are you? 7 00:00:30,300 --> 00:00:37,400 You know, I was always um, so why don't you why don't you tell 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,600 the people who might not know who curvy of disaster? 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,000 Tourism is a little bit about yourself. 10 00:00:44,900 --> 00:00:46,400 Damn, I'm really bad at this part. 11 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:51,700 I'm Kirby me and my partner Kristen run, disaster tourism. 12 00:00:51,700 --> 00:00:56,400 I do the writing and Design work, I guess. 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,000 And Kristen does all the art and layout. 14 00:01:00,700 --> 00:01:04,900 We have a kid named Luna, she's really sweet and also a 15 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:08,200 nightmare. I don't know what else to say, 16 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,500 really. I mean, that's kind of all I 17 00:01:09,508 --> 00:01:12,900 got, hey, that's enough. I mean, so you because you've 18 00:01:12,900 --> 00:01:15,700 only been doing this for it was very recently, your one year of 19 00:01:15,700 --> 00:01:17,300 doing games, right? Yeah. 20 00:01:17,500 --> 00:01:21,400 Yeah. So I started I mean, one year 21 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:26,000 ago in October was my first published book with exalted 22 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:33,600 funeral and we we started Doing like digital stuff a little bit 23 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,400 before that. But that was really when I kind 24 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,800 of decided like this is something I want to pursue. 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,100 Like not just do as for fun, you know, something I actually want 26 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:48,700 to pursue before that I had been working on this really big 27 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:52,700 project was the first thing I ever did basically, after 28 00:01:52,700 --> 00:01:55,700 discovering that other role-playing games existed and 29 00:01:55,900 --> 00:01:58,400 starting to read them and collect them and I was like, 30 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,000 okay, I'm going to write my own thing but I'd no idea what the 31 00:02:01,008 --> 00:02:05,300 fuck I was doing. And so, I spent about eight or 32 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:08,300 nine months doing that, and then eventually, I was like, this is 33 00:02:08,300 --> 00:02:10,400 a lot of work. Let me just do something smaller 34 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:16,200 and then I jumped in, I did a business card RPG and then I did 35 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,700 another one right after that small sword, and little Ranger. 36 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,900 These two little like, basically play pretend games where you 37 00:02:23,900 --> 00:02:26,700 just throw a card in the living room and roll some dice, you 38 00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:32,400 know, and then after that, I kind of Started to work on 39 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,300 games. I didn't War which was like the 40 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:38,700 solo detective like 1920s Dick Tracy kind of thing. 41 00:02:39,300 --> 00:02:41,800 And then after that I did Paranormal and that was the game 42 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,500 that got published with the F. And then since then I've been 43 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:49,000 like, okay I think I'm figuring this out, you know, I kind of 44 00:02:49,008 --> 00:02:54,800 got a Vibe so yeah it's been a it's been a, it's been a great 45 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,300 year though. I mean, like, we put out a lot 46 00:02:57,300 --> 00:02:59,600 of put out a lot of material, I think. 47 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:02,800 Like something good stuff. You know what I mean? 48 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,800 Like, it's not just stuff, you know, like each one feels good 49 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,900 and distinct and and you know, purpose like has purposed each 50 00:03:10,900 --> 00:03:13,300 one. So, it's really good real quick. 51 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:15,200 And I'm sorry to interrupt you because I've made myself a 52 00:03:15,208 --> 00:03:18,000 Post-It note to not forget to do this and we're not, right? 53 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:24,400 So we're doing a giveaway today. You have a new book that is out 54 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,700 now and it is that right there. This house is haunted. 55 00:03:28,900 --> 00:03:30,300 So we're going to be giving away. 56 00:03:30,500 --> 00:03:33,900 I think we said three softcover. This house is hot in today, so 57 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:39,000 let me make sure that I did this, all right, if I hit start 58 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,900 Boom, chat a giveaway for softcover, this house is 59 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:46,400 haunted, has started for viewers, use exclamation point 60 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,800 giveaway to enter the giveaway, and that should cycle every 61 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,800 couple of minutes on always keep making sure it does. 62 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,400 So all you have to do, you don't have to be here at the end. 63 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,900 I'll hit you up at some point either through will either 64 00:03:56,900 --> 00:04:01,700 through Discord, if your inner disk or door through which, if 65 00:04:01,700 --> 00:04:07,000 you don't have anything else and get your address whatever and 66 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,800 get that sand out to you. So as soon as won't give away in 67 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,800 the And we'll do that. So But what were you saying when 68 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,600 I, when I, when I interrupted you for our wonderful giveaway? 69 00:04:19,700 --> 00:04:24,800 I don't even remember man. Yeah got a lot. 70 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,300 Oh yeah, we put out a lot of material this past year or so 71 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:33,200 and in something that I'm excited about is the development 72 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,600 of my own skills that I have kind of built over the past 73 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,300 year. So there's yeah, Ryan's got some 74 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:43,400 of the books there are resident collector of the weekly scroll 75 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:49,700 here. Yeah, I know the feeling Yelling 76 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:51,700 trust me. I know the feeling I have a lot 77 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:56,500 of hard covers over here but it's been it's been a really 78 00:04:56,500 --> 00:04:59,400 good year because we not only do we put out a lot of a lot of 79 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,500 stuff but I've also throughout that process have learned a lot 80 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:10,000 about like games writing and it's not really that easy. 81 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:16,100 It's I think there is some Simplicity to it as far as like 82 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:24,700 like the concepts of how you can make a game function, but Making 83 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:29,100 them playable is like a different task. 84 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:32,200 I think than just making them readable and to make sense, you 85 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,700 know what I mean? And that's something that I 86 00:05:34,700 --> 00:05:38,100 that's one of the one of the reasons why I put out our newest 87 00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:42,300 Halloween project was the triple feature, which just came out 88 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:45,900 digital-only, but it's all three of the games that we released 89 00:05:45,900 --> 00:05:48,400 last year and Halloween with exalted funeral. 90 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,500 I basically rewrote them. I'm proud and Confident in the 91 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:57,000 books that I've released last year but over this past year 92 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,700 I've developed a lot more skill and I for technical writing and 93 00:06:00,700 --> 00:06:04,100 stuff like that and I really wanted to kind of expand on that 94 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:07,000 a little bit and go back to the things that I really liked and 95 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,900 be like, okay let me like release a second addition to 96 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:12,500 this, to make it like a little more clear, make it more fun 97 00:06:12,500 --> 00:06:16,200 more playable more like a little bit more explanation for the for 98 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,100 the people at the table. So, there's not too much 99 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:21,700 confusion when people sit down and look at a book that has four 100 00:06:21,700 --> 00:06:22,900 pages and they're like, what the fuck am I? 101 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:26,200 Like this, you know. So which I totally, yeah, I've 102 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,000 done that. Yeah. 103 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,400 Yeah, it's hard though. You know when you start to write 104 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,900 stuff because there's that like, I get it. 105 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:37,400 I wrote it obviously. So I get it, you know. 106 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,100 Yeah. And how do people not get it? 107 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:41,400 It makes sense in my mind and then someone looks at it and 108 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,900 just goes I have no fucking clue what this says here. 109 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:45,500 Like what do ya mean by this? You know. 110 00:06:45,500 --> 00:06:47,600 Yeah, that's something that that's one of those things I'm 111 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,500 saying. Like with the things that I've 112 00:06:49,500 --> 00:06:54,100 developed over the year and kind of that that What appears to be 113 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:57,100 ease of how it looks easy to write a game, right? 114 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,300 But it's not because you have to figure out how to write. 115 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,200 So that people who have no concept or a context for what 116 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,600 you're saying can easily jump right into it. 117 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,500 And that's something that is a skill that you have to develop. 118 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:13,700 It's not, you know it's not something that's very easy. 119 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:17,200 So that's that's a question. I mean, the whole well, that's 120 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,400 a, I guess the topic two extent. So you try to write for someone 121 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,200 who's never played a game before like that, they could have an 122 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,500 understanding of anything that you put out there as opposed to, 123 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,300 you know, someone that's obviously like our Niche hobby 124 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:34,600 that's played. You know, that has a bookshelf 125 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,500 of games, like, that's something you're striving for more in your 126 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:40,300 writing now than you did a year ago to make it where anyone 127 00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:41,700 could just pick it up and play it. 128 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,500 I would say it's a little bit about, so I think that my, the 129 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:49,600 skills that I've been trying to develop have been to develop 130 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,100 more clarity in my writing so that there's no confusion when 131 00:07:53,100 --> 00:07:58,000 someone reads. So, somebody that doesn't have a 132 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,900 lot of exposure to TT, RPGs can pick up, you know, sweet tooth, 133 00:08:02,900 --> 00:08:04,700 which is the new version of bucket, bash, and go. 134 00:08:04,700 --> 00:08:06,300 Okay. Yeah, this is like a LARP or 135 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:08,400 like, I can just play this at the table with my friends. 136 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,500 Like, and I understand how this works as opposed to what Bosch, 137 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:14,900 which I think is still great and I didn't really change too much 138 00:08:14,900 --> 00:08:17,400 of it. That was one of the ones that I 139 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,900 barely actually edited. I just added some clarification 140 00:08:19,900 --> 00:08:26,900 to, but that one is kind of, I think that knowing how a 141 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:32,400 role-playing game functions is makes understanding those those 142 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,799 books, a little bit easier. So. 143 00:08:35,900 --> 00:08:38,400 Yeah, I think that, that developing, that skill is 144 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,400 something that I've been working on, but I've also been kind of 145 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,100 moving away from games in general and trying to push my 146 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:48,700 great more into Adventures writing. 147 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,600 So that's also a totally different thing as well. 148 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:56,600 But yeah, I think that that's I don't know. 149 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,700 Yeah, I guess a little bit, a little bit about, you know. 150 00:08:59,700 --> 00:09:01,400 I mean, it makes sense. And, and that was another 151 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,000 question. I was gonna ask eventually, was 152 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,200 you put out a lot of games, you know, and a lot of people start 153 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,600 with supplements or hacks or things like that. 154 00:09:09,900 --> 00:09:15,800 But what I guess what was the original when you were first 155 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,500 putting stuff out? I guess. 156 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:19,000 What's the shift from? Okay, I'm putting at these 157 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,300 games, you know, like like like weird into adventure riding is 158 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:25,500 what you're talking about. Now are like Kind of like this 159 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:27,000 house is haunted. Like, what I guess? 160 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 What is the impetus to transition over a little bit 161 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,400 more? Well, there's a million systems. 162 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:34,800 That's one, right? So there, you know, and and no 163 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,200 shade, the game's designers because I am one at all, I think 164 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,000 writing systems is not easy. It's, you know, and it's fun. 165 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:47,100 It is very fun to try and take a concept like, in bucket bash and 166 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:50,400 Sweet Tooth. We literally Jarrett from 167 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,500 exalted funeral was like I need a third game for Halloween and I 168 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:56,900 was like, all right. Me and Kristin were like, can we 169 00:09:56,900 --> 00:09:59,400 use a bucket of candy as a game? Mechanic? 170 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,100 And that was like, the whole thing. 171 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:05,200 We started with that and I wrote, I wrote a game from and, 172 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,100 and, and it works. And I was like and that's 173 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:11,300 something that I think is really fun is to is, figuring out those 174 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:14,700 like, how do you take something mechanical and turn it into 175 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:19,200 something that's fun, right? But there's so many systems and 176 00:10:19,500 --> 00:10:24,400 this year like I don't know, a few months ago, I just kind of I 177 00:10:24,408 --> 00:10:28,100 was working on a project that I think I may have abandoned. 178 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:31,100 I don't even remember which one it was, but I probably abandon 179 00:10:31,100 --> 00:10:32,400 it because I have so many projects. 180 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,600 But I was working on this project and it was going to be a 181 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,900 game. And and then at some point I was 182 00:10:37,900 --> 00:10:40,100 like this could just not be a game. 183 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:43,400 This could just be, this could be for Troika, right? 184 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,500 Like I don't need this to be it, I don't need this to be a game 185 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,500 and then I started thinking about that more and I was like a 186 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:57,600 lot of things that I want to write could just be adventures 187 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,400 and or settings for things they don't like and I think that's 188 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,300 one of the things that a lot of people do with their new 189 00:11:03,300 --> 00:11:09,000 systems, is that they work so hard on developing a system of 190 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,000 rules and mechanics that fit to a setting and a style of play 191 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,100 that they want instead of looking for. 192 00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:19,300 And I'm not saying that they have to do this obviously, but 193 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:21,700 instead of looking for, hey, maybe there's this, you know, 194 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:24,000 maybe there's a game out there that already functions this. 195 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:25,800 Sway. Why don't I just write a setting 196 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,400 an adventure because in my opinion and this is how I kind 197 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:34,300 of em now that actually unlocks a lot more potential for you and 198 00:11:34,300 --> 00:11:38,200 in your creative writing and your exploration of the topic 199 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,500 because when you're writing a system, you have to kind of keep 200 00:11:42,500 --> 00:11:47,300 things a lot more concise and like dialed in so that the 201 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:49,900 players and the game master, if there's going to be a referee 202 00:11:49,900 --> 00:11:55,200 know that or have like this, like the It's for your game that 203 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,800 you're writing whether that's how you decide to play or not, 204 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,000 you know. Some people don't care for 205 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:06,600 guidelines and whatever but for me it's like if you look at if 206 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:12,400 you wanted to write Something that was much more like you had 207 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,600 this Grand idea for some heavy fantasy thing. 208 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,800 Why spend all this time trying to develop some kind of 209 00:12:19,808 --> 00:12:24,700 mechanical system for it and just go balls deep in the Loire 210 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,200 right? And come up with some really 211 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,200 cool setting and adventure and then just tack on the stat 212 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,700 blocks for a game. You like, you know, and it makes 213 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:34,500 a difference to me. That makes it a lot more easy 214 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,500 for the development aspect of it. 215 00:12:36,500 --> 00:12:39,000 But it also is just more fun because you get to just We be 216 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,600 more, I think you get to explore a lot more of your your creative 217 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,900 side, you know. So that's kind of where I 218 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,900 drifted in terms of where I'm at, you know, from the past few 219 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:51,600 months to a year in jail while, I mean, even with like this 220 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,700 house is haunted, it's pretty just like 0s are, you know what 221 00:12:55,700 --> 00:12:57,300 I mean? Like, here's very much ice. 222 00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:59,600 Here's some damage Dice and that, and the rest of its all 223 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,900 just flavor, like dims of great flavor roll table, stuff like 224 00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:06,600 that, you know, and that does open it up for, I mean, 225 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,600 especially when you're selling things, right, like If you make 226 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,600 a new system in one that's looking for a cool new system. 227 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,300 Cool. Right. 228 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:17,000 But not everyone is we know for the billion people that won't 229 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,800 play something else besides fucking diving. 230 00:13:19,300 --> 00:13:21,800 A lot of people find their comfort game and they'll play 231 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,600 their comfort games. Exactly for game is Troy karmic 232 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,700 board or whatever it is. You know, if you put out a 233 00:13:26,700 --> 00:13:31,300 supplement that can be either, then you can hit both, you know, 234 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:35,700 so I mean, it definitely can open up a ton more because I 235 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:38,600 know any time I find a new game I love like, you know, like 236 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,200 Lovett derf has a couple of Adventures because if I want to 237 00:13:41,208 --> 00:13:43,800 play Dirt it's great to have an adventure to goes with it. 238 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,200 And any time people put out things for Troika or, you know, 239 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,500 when someone puts anything over bastards or something like that, 240 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:52,300 it's great to be like, I really like bastards. 241 00:13:52,300 --> 00:13:56,800 He was an adventure for it. So, yeah. 242 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,400 I think that's, I hit the wall on the end of that tangent 243 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,400 train, but I guess, prior to that, then earlier, when you 244 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:11,300 were actually making not, when you still are With that in mind, 245 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:13,500 what was the impetus for like weird? 246 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:20,000 So that was more of a I would say some kind of Creative 247 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,200 challenge weird was like a challenge for me. 248 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,900 It started as a I had just come out of a room Quest campaign. 249 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:32,500 I had been playing in that for a few months and I was playing 250 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:37,100 another campaign for a while and then I just I wouldn't say quit. 251 00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:40,000 I left all of my campaigns because I needed to just take a 252 00:14:40,008 --> 00:14:44,000 break from playing in like long-term things for a while and 253 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,800 I was but I was really inspired by Rune Quest even though 254 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,300 request is ridiculously We a heavy-handed. 255 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:52,200 I don't know if you ever read or play to ruin Quest, but it is 256 00:14:54,100 --> 00:15:00,400 really, really crunchy rolling rolling for damage, rolling for 257 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,200 where you hit similar to Warhammer fantasy roleplay where 258 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,600 you roll for, where you hit. Your armor has hit points. 259 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,600 Each piece of armor has hit points and you can you know, 260 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,900 it's like lots of stuff like that and so I'd come out of room 261 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:18,300 Quest and I was like I really like the way that room Quest. 262 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:23,400 But we're inquest is so crunchy that it's almost inaccessible 263 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:28,100 for even someone like me who enjoys crunchy games to some 264 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:30,800 extent. So, how do I write something 265 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,300 that has that feeling? That is like the minimal 266 00:15:35,300 --> 00:15:38,000 possible rules? I could possibly come up with 267 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,200 and that's where weird came out. I was, I wrote four pages of 268 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:49,100 rules and I have another game coming out that is When we can 269 00:15:49,108 --> 00:15:51,000 talk about this later when we talk about weird a little more, 270 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,600 but I have another game coming out in the next couple months, 271 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,200 that is kind of an expansion on this. 272 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,900 That's like a bigger, I guess. My first weird hack, right? 273 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,500 That is the kind of Pinnacle of my goal of creating the, like, 274 00:16:04,900 --> 00:16:09,500 crunchiest possible rule set, rule set with, like, the fewest 275 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:12,500 amount of rule the crunchiest possible feeling for the fewest 276 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:15,700 amount of rules. So, that was kind of where this 277 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:17,900 came from. So I, my whole goal was Farmers 278 00:16:17,900 --> 00:16:22,400 should armor should affect you. It shouldn't just negate damage, 279 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,800 right? You should you should write, you 280 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,100 know. That's so there was just this 281 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:27,500 like modifier that I added and weird the made that was 282 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:30,100 basically it. But that was those, the go for 283 00:16:30,100 --> 00:16:32,800 weird, you know, it was to create the minimal possible 284 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,500 rules for the crunchiest possible feeling. 285 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:40,500 I could, you know, Yeah, and for those that haven't seen weird 286 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:43,900 like it is not, it is alt it says, ultralight for a reason. 287 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,900 Like, it's literally, like, not a whole lot of words across what 288 00:16:48,900 --> 00:16:51,800 amounts to about three pages in a character sheet. 289 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,500 Yeah, like that's it. That's the whole thing. 290 00:16:53,900 --> 00:17:01,900 Yeah. So and then there's Copper State 291 00:17:01,900 --> 00:17:04,099 Games. I believe has put out what it 292 00:17:04,099 --> 00:17:07,099 is. Dave has put out basically took 293 00:17:07,099 --> 00:17:09,000 this. It was like, let me add in all 294 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,700 of this other stuff to it. What what did you think about 295 00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:15,000 that when you were like, this was my goal and then someone 296 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 said tacking on all this this other stuff. 297 00:17:17,099 --> 00:17:19,200 Hello, pleasure. Yeah, yeah. 298 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:22,200 Gabe, gave us a really good friend of mine and he actually 299 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,400 asked me, he was like, hey, is it okay if I do this? 300 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,000 And I was like, fuck you dude? Are you kidding me? 301 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:31,000 Like this is like, you know, the system the system that I wrote 302 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:37,100 for this is so small that it was basically designed to be Just 303 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:40,100 piled on, right? Like that's that's one of the 304 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:42,800 things I like about it is that it's so simple that you can kind 305 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,100 of do whatever you want with it. You can take anything you want 306 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,700 and just add it to it because there's almost no rules, but 307 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:54,200 there's enough rules to keep it together, right? 308 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,000 That's about all there is you know, right? 309 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,200 Like it's almost more of a framework than anything. 310 00:17:58,300 --> 00:18:00,700 Well, that's exactly. That's exactly what it is. 311 00:18:00,700 --> 00:18:03,700 So that's and that's something. We I don't know when you want to 312 00:18:03,700 --> 00:18:05,900 talk about that but what you do I thought that at some point 313 00:18:05,900 --> 00:18:07,700 today right now we're talking about it. 314 00:18:08,100 --> 00:18:08,800 Yeah. Yeah. 315 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:17,800 I'm going to be releasing the weird framework which is the 316 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,000 next version of this. It's not really any different 317 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,600 it's just a bit more. I added like one or two 318 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,600 sentences of clarification on how to use it and then I think I 319 00:18:28,608 --> 00:18:33,100 edited like one thing and I'm releasing that with my next game 320 00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:37,400 which is called tentatively called Game which is you have 321 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,700 read I believe in earlier version of a while a little 322 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:45,700 while ago but basically I'm going to be launching that on my 323 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:49,200 website as a whole thing. It's going to be a framework for 324 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,300 people to take and just do whatever the fuck they want with 325 00:18:52,300 --> 00:18:54,400 it. And Gabe release, the profane 326 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,200 weird which is just fucking awesome like black metal, you 327 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,400 know, Dark Fantasy shit. All written for weird and my 328 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,200 buddy Tom has two big books He's working on right now and they're 329 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,700 going to release at some point in the next few months. 330 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:13,200 Or hopefully we'll see, I actually don't know if he 331 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,800 started working on him. That's I shouldn't say that. 332 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,900 But but yeah, that was kind of my, that's kind of my like plan 333 00:19:18,900 --> 00:19:22,000 for weird right now. And, you know, I've got wired, 334 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:27,400 just like the cyberpunk version. Yeah, you go and another buddy 335 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,600 of mine has like seven or eight versions of the game that he's 336 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,300 working on, you know, his own little hacks, he's got like 337 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,700 whacked, which is like the Mafia one which I know they are all. 338 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,000 So it's cool. I'm excited about like the the 339 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,100 possibilities of it and I think we're I'm not trying to make 340 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:46,500 more money off it. I'm just I want to re-release it 341 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:52,200 as a framework so it's clear that it is what that is, right? 342 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,200 You can play this game as is and people have and people like it. 343 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:02,000 You know, I Rusty played, did a really cool AP of wired with an 344 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,100 adventure, I think he got out of cyborg. 345 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:07,100 And I thought that was pretty cool. 346 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:10,400 Like, you can totally play this game as is, but it's definitely 347 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,300 more of a framework to build on top of than it is to just play 348 00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:17,300 by itself. But yeah. 349 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Those are, those are such great games. 350 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,600 Oh, like I really enjoy what a lot of people in this scene are 351 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,800 doing lately. We're lucky they'll dropping 352 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,400 game and like an SRD or a kind of like a framework with it and 353 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,700 then just see like what people have gone and run with it. 354 00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:38,600 I mean things like breathless and Nova, well, like the whole 355 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,500 Lumen system and things like that, where there's these 356 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:44,100 systems, and one of the things that you said instead of people 357 00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:48,800 making their own entire games, being able to be, Like, okay, I 358 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,000 really like, you know, weird and instead of me coming with a 359 00:20:53,008 --> 00:20:55,600 whole new game, a limb take this framework, and this thing that's 360 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,600 not weird at all, as you know, in the like medieval sort like 361 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,600 sword and sorcery fantasy thing. Yeah, you can do Mafia, you can 362 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,800 do whatever you want. Like, Lumen has things that are 363 00:21:06,808 --> 00:21:09,800 like, you know, dark like hedge and stuff like that. 364 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,700 That are not space fantasy. Destiny stuff. 365 00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:14,600 It's completely different, but it's all the same framework, 366 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,400 which is fantastic. So I'm really excited as a 367 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:23,400 framework to See what people tack onto it and later like 368 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,000 whacked especially like I'm really excited. 369 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,900 I just like the creativity because I was like word. 370 00:21:28,900 --> 00:21:31,500 I get it wired. I was like okay this is cool 371 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:34,200 that it's four letters and starts with the w but then when 372 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,200 it was whacked I don't know why I cracked up for like 5 minutes. 373 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,500 Yeah, well when he told me that I was like, oh my God like I 374 00:21:40,508 --> 00:21:42,900 didn't expect you know and I showed you this before the 375 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:45,900 stream but another friend of mine did hired which is like a 376 00:21:45,908 --> 00:21:48,900 mercenary pack of this. They did this for the Jam that I 377 00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:53,000 hosted back in June or something which is really great. 378 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,100 And but I was cracking up because I think like a good 379 00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:58,800 half, a half of the half of the people that we're doing, we're 380 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,800 like all right, what four letters can I come up with the 381 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,400 like that was like that's our I love that, I love that but like 382 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:10,100 it's not a requirement but like seriously there's not an even 383 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:12,700 higher. No, there isn't a Hardy right. 384 00:22:12,700 --> 00:22:16,500 Hi with a tap Mark over and then Rd. 385 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,700 Yes. Only for Letters. 386 00:22:18,700 --> 00:22:20,900 That's a that is a. That is an unofficial 387 00:22:20,900 --> 00:22:24,600 requirement if I do we're throwing down. 388 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,400 Yeah. So are you going to do? 389 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,800 Are you going to do a weird Jam? I am. 390 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,300 Yes. So that's a plan of mine. 391 00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:33,500 I'm gonna, when I release the framework and I release the new 392 00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:37,900 game that I'm putting out. I'm going to host a jam for 393 00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:42,000 probably, for adventures and or hacks of this of the system. 394 00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:46,900 And we'll see what happens. I'm gonna I'm going to be 395 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:49,800 publishing some of the stuff that comes out on my website. 396 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,700 So I don't know, you know, I'm going to be doing problem. 397 00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:59,200 I'm going to be I'm going to be printing or Distributing the 398 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,100 profane weird from Copper State Games. 399 00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:03,600 Will be Distributing his book on because I'm going to create a 400 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,800 section on my website specifically just for weird 401 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,400 stuff. So I'm going to end up 402 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,800 distributing some things and we'll see I mean if there's 403 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,500 something that I really really really like It comes out in the 404 00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:17,100 gym and I'm like, I want to actually spend my own money to 405 00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:19,200 print this. I will like, you know, reach out 406 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,200 to the person who wrote it and be like, yo, can we do like a 407 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,900 partnership here and, and sell this on my website, you know? 408 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:26,100 Because I will say, you know, it'll be fun. 409 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,200 But for the most part I just I love running jams like jams are 410 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,100 even when I don't actually participate in them and just run 411 00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:35,500 and manage them. I love doing it because I love 412 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,800 seeing people's creativity, like like just come out in like 413 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,400 restricted sequences or so. Estimate or whatever. 414 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,800 Because when I did the ultralight Jam, the rule was all 415 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,200 the rules have to fit on for Pages. 416 00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:53,400 You can't and it has to be a 5 so and obviously readable. 417 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:59,300 So, don't do like 33 Point font. But there were some people that 418 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:01,400 came out with some fucking cool shit. 419 00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:05,400 Like some really cool shit with like just two simple restricted, 420 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:08,100 you know, restrictive rules and I think that that's so cool. 421 00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:10,700 So I'm excited to see what people do with the new with 422 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:11,600 another game. You know? 423 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,400 Yeah, I'm stoked for the gyms, that's Of those things where I'm 424 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,700 like, I want to do this. What am I doing? 425 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:18,800 I'm never do anything. Obviously, the closest I came 426 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,700 was to the one-page jam. I was super excited and there's 427 00:24:21,700 --> 00:24:23,000 actually a game. I'm still working all the time. 428 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,800 Like this is the one I'm actually going to release some 429 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,800 time but it started as already just the front and back of one 430 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,500 page and that's not fucking easy. 431 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,300 I'm not you, what? No, that's not a whole lot of a 432 00:24:34,308 --> 00:24:36,900 game, you know. I mean, I had respect for people 433 00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:39,200 that can do like business card games and actually be like, this 434 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,900 is awesome, you know? Yeah, because it's like 50 435 00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:43,500 words, you know. That's what you get. 436 00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:47,100 So yeah like you said I can't wait to see what comes from the 437 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:50,000 from the weird Jim and I we were just talking about your website. 438 00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:53,800 I know before the stream you talked about it just a tiny bit. 439 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,500 You had started to migrate to basically just your website is 440 00:24:57,500 --> 00:24:59,100 place of people can get your games. 441 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,600 What was it impetus to do that? And like, how is that, how is 442 00:25:02,608 --> 00:25:07,300 that process? But well, it hasn't been super 443 00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:15,400 great but I it's a challenge because I'm still using. 444 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,900 I've just actually went back to also publishing on itch in the 445 00:25:19,900 --> 00:25:22,400 past, like week because I really wanted to get some of these 446 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,100 teams to get some sales because each has like their own built-in 447 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:30,100 algorithm for putting things on their front page and showing 448 00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:32,300 people things that they wouldn't normally look at stuff like 449 00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:35,400 that. Whereas my website is its own 450 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,400 thing and it just exists, right? So that's been a challenge 451 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,500 marketing is not Easy nor do I really enjoy it. 452 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,800 So it has been, it has been a challenge but the reason I did 453 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,100 it was because I wanted to start Distributing my own products. 454 00:25:57,700 --> 00:26:00,600 One of the main reasons is because Shopify is really easy. 455 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:07,400 Is a really easy like system for selling like there's Inventory 456 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,900 management and built-in like tools for shipping and all kinds 457 00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:13,300 of stuff like that. So it makes it really you know 458 00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:15,300 they print you can print packing slips and shipping labels and 459 00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:16,900 all the stuff. It's all built into their to 460 00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:19,900 their system. So it's super easy to run and I 461 00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:24,100 didn't really want to deal with all that from each because 462 00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:26,800 selling physical products on. It felt a little bit more. 463 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:30,300 I would have to like search through emails and see my sales 464 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:32,600 and figure out which ones were physical products and then go 465 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,500 email. The people are like, you know, 466 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,900 figure out how to get shipping, I didn't just feel like dealing 467 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:42,000 with all that. I also wanted to move into 468 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,400 Distributing other people's products as well. 469 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,700 So that was one of the reasons why one of the other reasons why 470 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:50,800 I kind of switched over to my own website. 471 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,900 And, you know, it's just kind of it's a nice thing to link your 472 00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:57,900 website. That's like the the The the 473 00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:00,500 vanity part of it, right? It's just like hey check out my 474 00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:03,000 website, right? And it's my thing you go on 475 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,200 there it's only my stuff or stuff that I have chosen to put 476 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,000 on there you know and I'll all the money goes to me. 477 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,500 Like there's no percentage that comes out to, you know, 478 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:16,400 whatever. So that was kind of a thing. 479 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,900 It is a challenge though because there is not really any one that 480 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,500 promotes it. But me I have to do a lot of 481 00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:25,200 marketing work and this house is. 482 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,200 Haunted did pretty good. I luckily got a couple distros 483 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,600 to pick it up as well, to help me kind of fun. 484 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,700 The print runs because that's kind of a big deal. 485 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:40,900 Upfront cost is pretty hard with books, but, yeah, I'll tell you, 486 00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:42,800 it's a lot different than a crowd fund. 487 00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:47,300 It is, oh my God. So much. 488 00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:50,700 Yeah, I was doing that. I was doing that the shipping 489 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,000 info for the dark last night. And I was just looking at all 490 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,600 the people that bought books that was like, there's so many 491 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,200 people that bought these books. And I was just because I'll 492 00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:05,500 crowdfunded that. I kind of promoted like on 493 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:07,500 Twitter a couple times a week, right. 494 00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:10,500 It's a lot different. Yeah. 495 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,400 Yeah. And we'll get to that for sure 496 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,000 now. So are you, are you planning to 497 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,500 try to be completely only on your website or you gonna do? 498 00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:25,200 Cuz I know there's a bunch of creators out there that do, 499 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,900 like, you know, you can get the digital stuff on it. 500 00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:29,900 But if you want, Physical copies. 501 00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:31,900 It's on my website. Are you going to try to kind of 502 00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:33,900 split the difference that way? Or you're going to eventually 503 00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:36,100 try to just be just your website? 504 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,200 Eventually, I would like to just be on the website but that was 505 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,400 what kind of this? This house is haunted and the 506 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,300 Halloween games. I realized, you know what? 507 00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:48,000 I didn't have a long time to promote these because they, we 508 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,400 were kind of, like, in a crunch period, right? 509 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,200 Before October came out. And I want to get these two 510 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,400 people before October is over because they're specifically for 511 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,800 this month. I was like, you know what, we're 512 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,200 just going to push these out on the edge and get get some more 513 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,400 eyes on them because why not? Like I already had the edge set 514 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,400 up. There's no reason to just 515 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,200 abandon it 100% when I could be benefiting from it but 516 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,600 eventually I would like to migrate away from it. 517 00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:15,800 And I dunno, I dunno. There's a lot of creators that 518 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,300 use both. I think if it made sense to keep 519 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:22,000 it up just for digital, I would keep it up just for digital and 520 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,400 right now it is just for digital. 521 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,900 So I would probably just keep it at that wet. 522 00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:29,500 That way, you know. I would have to figure out. 523 00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:32,700 So for right now, on my website, I have automatic discounts for, 524 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,000 if you buy a PDF you automatically get 25% off 525 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,800 applied. If you decide to pick up 526 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,300 physical print, copy of whatever you bought. 527 00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:48,000 So I would have to figure out a way to do that with itch. 528 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,700 I don't know. I may be some kind of code, I 529 00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:52,600 would email people or something but that's that's a discussion 530 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,100 for another another time. You know, I think in this might 531 00:29:57,100 --> 00:30:00,800 be just a random thing I've gotten emails before when I get 532 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,500 a PDF and just attached in the PDF. 533 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,900 Like file thing is just a thing that says email here for this 534 00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:09,300 code or something. So it's oh yeah, file in the 535 00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:10,600 folder. Yeah. 536 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,600 So you're looking to become a distributor, I mean, Tom's in 537 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,300 the chat and like, you know, I pr spirituality like do you want 538 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:23,800 to get to that point where you're like like a spirit kind 539 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,900 of thing, making games and and But distribute and of games to 540 00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:29,800 we're primarily game maker with some small distribution or what. 541 00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:36,100 I think I'll my goal right now and as far as I can really see 542 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:41,700 is just very limited specific things that I want to pick up. 543 00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:46,100 So like Tom's a good friend, love Tom. 544 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,700 I bought fungible for my website because I was I think it's fuck, 545 00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:52,000 it's going to be a fucking great game. 546 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:55,900 And yeah so I was like I'm going to I'm going to buy Book and put 547 00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:59,700 it on my website because, you know, at the very least, I lose 548 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000 a couple bucks on my business account. 549 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,200 But I'm supporting my friend who is making a cool book, right? 550 00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:07,800 But I don't think I'm gonna lose any money because it's a good 551 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,500 game and that's kind of how I'm looking at it right now. 552 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:16,000 Like it's mostly going to be for my stuff, but I do want to move 553 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,200 into limited and very specific and targeted distribution for 554 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,700 things that I personally. Think are really cool even if 555 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,900 they aren't going to be popular, even if I don't even if somebody 556 00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:29,900 else doesn't find them popular, I might be like yeah, this is 557 00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:31,500 really cool. I'm going to spend 50 bucks on a 558 00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:33,500 couple copies and like put them on my website. 559 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,100 You know, just really help you permit. 560 00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:35,900 Help. Promote stuff. 561 00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:41,000 I wouldn't ever. Hopefully, I would never well, I 562 00:31:41,008 --> 00:31:42,900 don't know, I don't know. I might be. 563 00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:47,600 My goal is not to reach spear, which level Jarrett school. 564 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:54,000 So I wouldn't wanna even be in competition with but I mean I'm 565 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,700 selling my books to Spirit which so I can't even. 566 00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:03,700 Yeah, one of the things we talked about are we touch on a 567 00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:06,400 second ago was crowdfunding projects. 568 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:12,100 One will talk about the dark but to how was the process of crowd 569 00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:17,700 funding a project? It was the The worst, don't 570 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:21,700 recommend it for anybody and I'm trying to avoid crowdfunding for 571 00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:27,600 the rest of my life, but it is also easy money, which is the 572 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,500 problem. So, I, this is the dark. 573 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000 We've got the shipping is going out for this in like the next 574 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,700 two weeks. So anybody that bought it is 575 00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:40,100 going to get some copies, and then finally, I'll be able to 576 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,900 put the rest on my website and people can pick it up after 577 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:49,200 everybody else has their copies. But This was this was a passion 578 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,600 project I've been working on and I was like, you know what, let 579 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,100 me crowd from this because I really want to get it a lot of 580 00:32:55,100 --> 00:33:01,100 books out to people and like and it it blew up like my first 581 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:05,500 crowdfund and probably only crowdfund but it blew up and I 582 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:10,000 was I was utterly amazed at how much people like were interested 583 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,500 in it but it's also just crowdfunding. 584 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:19,100 He's a job like The actual the work that you have to do to 585 00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:23,600 manage all these, like all the promotion for it. 586 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,400 And, you know, constantly ants answering questions about like 587 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,100 things that you've already answered several times. 588 00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,200 Like you just constantly getting emails like. 589 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,300 Hey, when is this happening? And I'm like, I've already up. 590 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,000 Send you an update like several times, like, please stop asking, 591 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,200 but it wasn't. The person is smart. 592 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,600 People are stupid. You know. 593 00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:44,000 Yeah. I know nothing for sure. 594 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,300 Yeah, yeah. So it's, it's It's a whole it's 595 00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:50,300 a job like crowdfunding if you're not a project manager 596 00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:53,300 like I keep talking about Tom because Tom is literally like 597 00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:56,800 that's his like that's his thing, Tom was Project managing 598 00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:01,900 and he helped me a lot with this you know sending out emails to 599 00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:05,800 like LGS is all over the United States. 600 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,699 He was like a big big help in my crowdfunding aspect so I can't 601 00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:13,000 thank him enough for his help but I wouldn't have it probably 602 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,300 would have been as successful if he didn't do that work for me. 603 00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:19,300 Which I did pay for. So let's be clear about that, 604 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,199 but I don't want to do that again. 605 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:28,800 It was like, it was just even, even with this house is haunted. 606 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,600 I consider crowdfunding it. I also considered selling at the 607 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,500 EF and doing like their partner, print partnership, which would 608 00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:38,199 have gotten more eyes on the book right away. 609 00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:43,000 But I just was like, I want to do this by myself. 610 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:48,400 I want to, I have money already. I could do a pre-order for a 611 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:54,100 hardcover print run and then let like, you know, let the rest of 612 00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:57,200 the let another print run be covered by a couple sales to 613 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,500 some distros and print this myself and see how that does and 614 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:02,200 it's done. Okay. 615 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,800 You know, I didn't it's not the nearly the numbers that the dark 616 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,300 dead because game found is a, is a crowdfunding program. 617 00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:11,500 And they, you know, they advertise and send emails, and 618 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:13,100 post blogs and it's on the front page. 619 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:14,500 And you know, everybody can see it. 620 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:17,500 Whereas, this is literally me and my Publishing like I talked 621 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:20,800 about earlier, publishing marketing emails and stuff like 622 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,800 that. So, it's a challenge but it's 623 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,100 one of those things that I don't like marketing, but it's 624 00:35:26,100 --> 00:35:28,200 something that I want to be better at because I think that 625 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,700 it's a skill that I need to develop. 626 00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:34,400 So that's kind of where I'm at with it, but the crowdfunding I 627 00:35:34,408 --> 00:35:37,000 just didn't, I didn't enjoy it and game found made it even 628 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000 harder because game found a sound terrible. 629 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,800 Fucking platform. Is my next question? 630 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,600 Let me cry. Yeah, I listen to your list. to 631 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,600 interview with Adam and and I know Amy and Adam talked about 632 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,800 it a little bit at some point in the past couple of months, but 633 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,600 game found is just not a great most for me, I didn't have as 634 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,000 much problem with their self promotion or with their 635 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,300 promotional aspects as much as I did with their websites, 636 00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:10,100 interface is terrible to navigate and Incredibly 637 00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,700 difficult to figure out where things are and how to set up 638 00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:15,900 things and like it took me several weeks to figure out 639 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:19,800 where bye Orders were like I was just navigating the website 640 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,900 looking for and I would see something and I would forget 641 00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,400 which thing I clicked and I had to go and then eventually I just 642 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,900 had to email somebody that you know where the fuck do I get 643 00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:28,800 this shit? And they were like oh on the 644 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,400 home page. You click this button to this 645 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,800 button and then you go to this and also great fucking can 646 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,300 orders button like this lady, the whole purpose of like what 647 00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:40,500 we're doing here. It's it, there is but it's like 648 00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:42,400 there's also another thing in the order. 649 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,400 There's another orders button that doesn't go to the same page 650 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,700 and the main doors As button that I was clicking was on a 651 00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:50,800 different section of the website in the dashboard. 652 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,900 That's not the say it's, it's yeah, it's just, it is a 653 00:36:53,908 --> 00:36:58,100 nightmare. So, if, if somehow you use 654 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,400 crowdfunding project again, not game found is what we're saying 655 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,800 here. Yeah, not gate down. 656 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:08,100 That's that's that's two, that's Owen. 24-game found on people on 657 00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:09,500 the show. Just just throwing that out 658 00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:12,500 there the crowdfunding in general because I mean there are 659 00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:16,000 creators out there people like, you know, Phillip rechristened 660 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,600 icon Like that, who like this is, their whole job is just 661 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,600 running crowdfunding projects, put out cool content, but it's 662 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,700 like one crowdfund to the next round Fund in the next round 663 00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:25,900 one. The next, yeah, I found fun, you 664 00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:29,800 know, and some of those people this point, it's like, I assume 665 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,100 they're just like, so dialed into the process and it's got a 666 00:37:32,107 --> 00:37:34,700 lot of the same people are back in the next one. 667 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,200 But if it's, I mean, that's, that's like you just said that's 668 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,200 a whole job. That's literally like all they 669 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,100 do. Yes. 670 00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:42,300 Just drop the thing. I don't know how they get time 671 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:46,000 to actually put out content when it's like every four months. 672 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,400 There's like, Another project that they're rolling out. 673 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,600 It's crazy. Yeah. 674 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,400 And the other thing about crowdfunding that is a big thing 675 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,300 for me is that it's kind of, like one of those. 676 00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:58,300 It's like a flash sale kind of thing where everybody gets real 677 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:01,500 hype about it for like a week and everybody dumps their money 678 00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:04,200 into it. And then you just forget, like, 679 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,700 I got a crowdfunded book in the mail that I forgot. 680 00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:11,900 I bought like, because nobody talks about the shit, right? 681 00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:13,600 And that's one of the things I don't like about the 682 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,600 crowdfunding project aspect is that It's and for the dark, I 683 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,400 know that this is a fact because nobody's fucking talking about 684 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,300 this right now, even though I'm hoping that will change once the 685 00:38:24,308 --> 00:38:28,100 book is published and I start promoting it again, but but 686 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:31,500 right now nobody's talking about this game, but when it was a 687 00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:35,100 lie, I had several people AP it. Or when the crowdfunding has 688 00:38:35,107 --> 00:38:37,300 happened, I had several people AP and I had a bunch of, I had a 689 00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:39,700 couple blogs cover it. I had people doing like, you 690 00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:42,000 know, actual plays and tax didn't like all kinds of shit. 691 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,000 So and they weren't things that I was necessarily asking. 692 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000 For I had asked, like, maybe one or two Two people to do it. 693 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,400 But I had a bunch of people doing that. 694 00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:51,600 And that's one of those things that I think that crowdfunding 695 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:58,100 has a negative aspect of is that there's a huge hype machine when 696 00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:02,500 it's live and then once it's done, it's done and both. 697 00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:04,300 Yeah. Basically, what time is, it 698 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,900 fire-and-forget? Like people literally shoot 699 00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:09,700 their money at you, and then forget that they even did. 700 00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:13,600 And I honestly guarantee you could probably run, allo, allo 701 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,400 fun, campaign and just not even Fill it and you would probably 702 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,500 have like, five complaints like people would just forget that 703 00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:22,200 they even bought something from you. 704 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,000 Like that's how I'm saying. Did you say Avatar? 705 00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:28,200 I know? Yeah, right, yeah, they go, 706 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,300 right? Nobody's talking about that 707 00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:30,800 game. And that was one of the biggest 708 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,000 that the, the biggest crowdfunded game in the history 709 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,100 of Kickstarter. And I, you know, I remember that 710 00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,200 I bought that game, I'm going to sell it as soon as it comes in 711 00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:44,500 but you know, it was a year and a half ago, I think at this 712 00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:48,900 point but this is, this is Is the problem I think like the 713 00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:50,800 I've had a couple. Yes. 714 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,100 Tom, you're right. That is fraud. 715 00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:54,400 We do not. I was just saying as an example, 716 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,000 you could. Oh yeah. 717 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,800 Sorry we don't promote fraud on on the web control podcast just 718 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,600 for you guys listening watching. Yeah, so here's so, for a couple 719 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,500 of examples, one I thought was the one that jumps out in my 720 00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:13,200 head right away is Red Giant from I don't know why it's 721 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,500 blinking in my brain right now. But the when they put out this 722 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,000 book, it literally was like we're done. 723 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,100 It's done. As soon as the campaign's over, 724 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:27,500 you're going to get a PDF and then here's a code and it goes 725 00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:30,100 out. So from the time that you pay 726 00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,100 for the thing on day, one and get it in your hands, it was 727 00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:33,800 literally like 40 days. Yeah. 728 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:40,000 And to me like that, that is a fantastic way to do a project. 729 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,100 Rookie just do D. Oh, I'm sorry. 730 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,300 Blanked on that one. And I'm sure that I said that 731 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,900 when you look at a game like, habit are right, you get this 732 00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:51,900 huge campaign and all these people talk about it, but 733 00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:54,200 there's one, everyone sees it at the same time. 734 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,800 Little bit of promo, but you hit start and the whole world sees 735 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,200 it at once. And everyone can get hyped at 736 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,000 the same time, but then when you get to the point where it's 737 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,500 like, okay, we're now we're going to write it. 738 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,900 It's going to be a year before you hear anything. 739 00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:06,800 Yep. Right. 740 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,700 Everything. Dies down. 741 00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:12,200 And then then the backers, get the pdf version and then like 742 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,000 Six months goes by and then the backer start to get physical 743 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,000 versions and then six months goes by and then it's open to 744 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,500 the public all of these people that were so hyped for it, and 745 00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:22,900 roll blogs and stuff, or whatever. 746 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,300 See, a lot of projects and I've backed fuck, I'm well, over 300 747 00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:31,000 now on Kickstarter and I can tell you It's like Christmas all 748 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,900 the time. Yeah, what is this? 749 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,600 Let me go back and see what I actually got this. 750 00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:39,200 But yeah, that's part of the that's part of the problem 751 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,800 though, is that the the from the hype to actually the public 752 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,800 getting access to it for most projects I would say the average 753 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,700 time it takes for me to get a Kickstarter. 754 00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:53,700 Project is a year - Mmm. Yeah, so are you can't hide for 755 00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:55,700 a year and a half? No, you can't. 756 00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:58,800 And that was one of the things that I was a little not annoyed 757 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,400 with but Just like it was dragging was with this. 758 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,300 I had these books in my house for months ago. 759 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,000 Like, literally, I think I ordered them the day after the 760 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:14,800 campaign ended or maybe a week when I don't know, it would have 761 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,500 been a week or two after the campaign on it because I had to 762 00:42:16,508 --> 00:42:20,900 wait for the payment to clear they came in like within two 763 00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:24,900 weeks and I had him in the house but because I had like fool 764 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,600 planned stretch goals. I was like a fuck now, I gotta 765 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,300 wait for all this. Shit instead of just putting 766 00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:35,200 these books out because I don't want to, you know, and I'm super 767 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,800 happy, I got, you know, I don't know where the fuck they are my 768 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,500 cassettes. The cassettes just came in for 769 00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:42,200 the companion album that I get that I commissioned, right? 770 00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:44,800 And then handles, do the candles down, see ya? 771 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,600 The candles are fucking fantastic but the candles were 772 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,600 done that the week. I ordered them like, you know, 773 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,500 this this girl, Toshi's, fantastic. 774 00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:54,000 She got them all done right away, but you know, I've been 775 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,800 waiting on all the extra stuff and that was one of the things 776 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,800 that's another thing about crowdfunding is like, you have 777 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,800 you kind of To have all that extra stuff and stretch goals to 778 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,800 entice people to give you more money, so you can make sure you 779 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,500 hit your different goals for printing costs and things like 780 00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:10,200 that. But every single thing you add 781 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,400 ads time to your your your weight, right? 782 00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:16,500 If I hadn't had any stretch goals or any bonus content, this 783 00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,200 would have been in your hands four months ago but because that 784 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,000 I had to wait. And that's not a negative thing 785 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,400 because I'm really proud of this book. 786 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,300 I think is a really good game and all the stuff that we're 787 00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:28,500 getting and shipping out is is awesome shit. 788 00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:30,700 We got the LFO. Sorry books and the bullet 789 00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:33,000 journals and the cassette tapes and the stickers and the 790 00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:35,000 candles. And, you know, the music that I 791 00:43:35,008 --> 00:43:38,400 agon did is incredible. I don't know if you downloaded 792 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,100 it yet. I sent out the band camp codes 793 00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:45,800 like last week, I think, but it is it's fucking incredible 794 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,700 stuff. So I'm really happy with it, but 795 00:43:48,700 --> 00:43:55,300 that is an example of just, for a small solo game, the things 796 00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:59,300 that I thought would be fun and exciting to add as bonus things. 797 00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:03,500 We ended up causing a huge delay, the shipment process of 798 00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:04,700 it. And that's one of the things 799 00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:07,600 that I'm like, I don't really want to do that again. 800 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,100 I want to just when this is done, I wanted to be done when 801 00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:13,200 the book is published and or printed, I want to sell it. 802 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,900 And if people want to buy more stuff, I can be like, okay, 803 00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:18,700 well, hey guess what, I have a lot of money left over from the, 804 00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:20,400 from the pre-order Capri doors here. 805 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,800 Let me like, you know, send somebody some money and write an 806 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,200 album that can go with this, or some shit like that, you know. 807 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,900 And oh, now it's available my website. 808 00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:29,300 If you already own this, here's a discount code. 809 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,300 Code kind of thing like that, you know, see that's that's such 810 00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:34,800 a smart way to do it because even if you did even, let's say 811 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,200 you crowdfunded again, the dark and then put out the candles and 812 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,700 all the other stuff on the website with, with discounts, 813 00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:42,900 you know, that's the way to get it in people's hands and then 814 00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:45,800 kind of do stretch goals later with the incentives or whatever. 815 00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:49,800 But I mean, and again, that's why, you know, the people, you 816 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,800 know, I see Philip reading Christian icon because they're 817 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,900 the people that I see literally doing it all the time, zero 818 00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:56,500 stretch goals, not a single scratch called, like this is it, 819 00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:58,300 and Phillip. Reed will even do one day. 820 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:03,000 One day crowd. Projects, like I mean, I know 821 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:13,200 that I can't think at all. Spencer Campbell did rune for 822 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,100 one week and was like, thank God, if I had to do this for 823 00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:18,600 three weeks. I do, you know, freaked out. 824 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,000 So, I can't even. I mean, it's hopefully something 825 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,900 that I never want to do. Yeah, I only did the dark for 14 826 00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:26,700 days because I had already known. 827 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,200 I had already seen several people, I don't know any 828 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,000 Spencer's work, but I've seen a lot of other people talk about 829 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:40,600 how long Crowdfunding is like the standard 30 days is like a A 830 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,800 Century of marketing and I was like, I'm not doing that like 14 831 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,800 days, like it's a low goal, I think it was $1500, was the goal 832 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,800 when I hit that like within the first 24 hours and I was just 833 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,600 like, I'm not even going to try this. 834 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,700 Like this is ridiculous. So so what do you think, what do 835 00:45:58,700 --> 00:46:00,700 you think made the dark kind of blow up from that? 836 00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:03,400 Do you think it was like The Wretched alone system? 837 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,200 Do you think it was just good marketing? 838 00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:06,900 At the right time. Like do you think? 839 00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:08,400 It's just cause it's fucking awesome. 840 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,200 Like, well, yeah, fucking awesome. 841 00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:17,400 I mean I do I do I do have it is I'm not honestly, I'm not sure. 842 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,700 I think it was the first time I really marketed myself. 843 00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:24,800 So I had a lot of to help from Tom. 844 00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:32,500 Again, he's basically my employee at this point, but 845 00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:39,200 yeah, I the I think maybe resonated with people a little 846 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,300 bit, I'm not sure. I wrote this based off the 847 00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:44,100 ritual, which is one of the best movies of all time. 848 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:50,400 In my opinion, I absolutely love that movie and I think, maybe, 849 00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:53,400 I'm not really sure to be honest. 850 00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:57,000 I guess people thought it was cool. 851 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,600 Yeah. Like the candles was a fun, I 852 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,000 think maybe that might have enticed some people as the idea 853 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,800 of using candles instead of a block tower Jenga Tower. 854 00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:12,400 You're right in saying NOS 0. The ritual is god, tier horror, 855 00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:15,200 I'm Not Gonna Eat You Alive and got a list. 856 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,500 It is incredible. No molest, watch it. 857 00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:22,400 And then play the dark. Yeah and I have a ground. 858 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,900 I've read most, I read a lot of the dark, it's one of those 859 00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:25,900 things. It's like and you do want to 860 00:47:25,908 --> 00:47:27,700 read the whole thing cover to cover and then yeah. 861 00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:33,600 Like you know, yeah but I think maybe the candles thing is was 862 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,800 helpful because it is, I thought it was pretty unique. 863 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,100 That was something that Gabe from Copper State Games. 864 00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:43,000 Gave me. He had play tested the game in 865 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,700 its original format, which I think may be used to block tower 866 00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:50,900 at the time. Way back in like April or 867 00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:54,200 something. And he was like wait what if you 868 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,300 Did like a 10 candles thing where you use candles and I was 869 00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:58,700 like, holy fuck, that's a good idea. 870 00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:01,500 Holy shit into. And then I spent like, I 871 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:06,400 literally spent like I think 12 hours doing like like over a 872 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,300 period of a couple of days working on this like equation 873 00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:16,600 trying to figure out how many candles I needed to equal, how 874 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,500 many blocks you would pull out of a Jenga Tower before Falls 875 00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:25,200 and It was a lot of math for somebody that's not good at 876 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,100 math. So but I got it. 877 00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:30,200 I think I got it. I might actually have put too 878 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,700 many candles. I think you should only have two 879 00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:38,000 candles but for candles is good. No it was it was really fun. 880 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,800 This was a fun one to develop because of that like that that 881 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,200 aspect trying to figure out how that works and then writing the 882 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,200 prompts and stuff was wretched in alone is not actually an 883 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,200 easy, it's not an easy system, the right. 884 00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:54,300 It's a simp. It's very simple system. 885 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,400 And this goes back to what I first went out. 886 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,500 When we first started talking, like, game design can look, and 887 00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:07,200 is to some degree somewhat easy, but there is a lot that goes 888 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:13,000 into writing that is very difficult and to make it clear 889 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,500 and that was something that I had that I really kind of 890 00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:21,900 discovered with this one well, that kind of ties into the whom 891 00:49:21,900 --> 00:49:25,300 you said to with the dark like not, you didn't make a whole new 892 00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:29,200 system because you have the dart you know if you use wretched and 893 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:34,100 alone to do it what is Did that ever cross your mind or when you 894 00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:35,900 thought of the dark, was it always going to be a wretched in 895 00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:38,800 a long game? I think, when I first came up 896 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,800 with this, it was going to be a wretched Malone game. 897 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:46,200 The original actually, I'm trying to remember, if this kind 898 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,800 of spawned itself out of Evergreen Wilds, because 899 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,600 Evergreen Wilds, was originally going to be a retinal own game 900 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,800 last year, like in. I think it was like last, I 901 00:49:57,808 --> 00:50:00,900 don't even know last summer, I came up with that and like June 902 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,600 of, like 20. One and then I moved away from 903 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,700 Wretched alone and then moved into something else, but I still 904 00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:10,500 have that retching balloon thinks it in the back of my head 905 00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:13,400 and then that kind of came out here. 906 00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,300 I think it would have worked. See. 907 00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:17,500 This is this is a good example to the dark. 908 00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:20,000 I'm really proud of this love this game want everybody to buy 909 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,400 it, but I think this would also be great as an adventure for 910 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:29,600 something to like this concept is a great example of where do I 911 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,300 write this as a game? Or do I write this as an 912 00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:33,400 adventure? And I'm really great. 913 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,500 I'm really glad that I wrote this as a game because it's a 914 00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:38,600 great game and I'm proud of it. But I also probably will, at 915 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:43,300 some point take the same concept and turn into an adventure like, 916 00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:44,900 Yeah. Because it is one of those 917 00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:48,400 things where y, like, and I'm glad I would not have taken this 918 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,600 and written my own system for it. 919 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:54,200 I'm glad Chris has wretched Malone out there because, you 920 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,400 know, it's a great Solo System for people to use. 921 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,900 But yeah, I that's I'm looking at this down. 922 00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:03,000 I'm like, all right. Wait, hold on. 923 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,200 I like right now. I'm literally thinking how do I 924 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,200 become the monster in? The ritual is so good. 925 00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:13,100 It is so good, no spoilers. I won't say any spoilers but is 926 00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:14,800 so good. And I'm just like how to cook 927 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,200 right now. I'm going to write a adventure 928 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,200 for this, right? Let's do it. 929 00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:19,900 Well then you're already here personally control. 930 00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:23,900 This is going to be the dark you know do the adventure version. 931 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,700 I had a question about when you were talking about not going 932 00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:30,600 with you. Bender and printed your own 933 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,000 thing. How was like the self printing 934 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,100 process for a book, like, finding a publisher, like, doing 935 00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:38,900 all that stuff? Like how, how does that go? 936 00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:40,100 Do you have like a local printer? 937 00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:42,300 And then they do all that kind of stuff or how did the 938 00:51:42,308 --> 00:51:44,200 hardcover? Softcover of like this house is 939 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,600 haunted. Kind of play out that way. 940 00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:49,100 That was pretty easy. I just use mix a mix, a really 941 00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:53,400 easy also make some. Yeah, I there is a local printer 942 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,600 that I'm actually probably going to a friend of mine used to work 943 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,600 there called Fireball prints. and they do booklets and stuff, 944 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,300 they don't do hard covers anything, but I was gonna get in 945 00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:06,300 contact with them because if their prices are equal to equal 946 00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:11,500 or even close to mix amps prices then, Save me on shipping and 947 00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:13,600 time developmental time and all kinds of stuff. 948 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,400 It's much smaller, print shop. So but makes a great because you 949 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,300 know, they have they have a lot of their customer service has 950 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,000 incredible like for huge print company. 951 00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:27,000 You know you send them a message or call them and you get a real 952 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,000 person within like five minutes. Like, literally answering all 953 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,100 your questions. I with this house is haunted. 954 00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:36,200 I wanted the books as soon as I could after I uploaded them and 955 00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:39,500 the layout and art and all the stuff took long, long time. 956 00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:42,300 And it Ding was a whole process because it's a really big book 957 00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:45,500 and Tom did a great job editing this book but it's a it's got a 958 00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:47,800 lot of text on it that he had to go through like a bunch of 959 00:52:47,808 --> 00:52:51,300 times. So it took a lot longer to kind 960 00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:53,900 of develop and get ready for print than I wanted it to. 961 00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:58,100 So when I actually had it ready for print, it was like the last 962 00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:01,800 week of September and their normal production, and shipping 963 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,300 time is like, two to three weeks, and I called them. 964 00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:08,600 And I was like, I need this book like October 1st, and I know 965 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,300 that I'm late, but like I I need this because it's like for 966 00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:13,900 Halloween and the guy on the phone was like, all right hold 967 00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:15,200 on. I'm going to move your 968 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,300 production to a production facility that's in Baltimore 969 00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:22,500 instead of the standard one that we use over here in wherever and 970 00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:26,300 then I'm going to put an urgent notice on your order. 971 00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:29,300 So that they know that as soon as this is done it needs to be 972 00:53:29,308 --> 00:53:32,400 ready for shipping the same day and I got it like four days 973 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,600 after I ordered it. Like that's how ya like that's 974 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,700 and I was just like I was so thrilled with that. 975 00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:42,000 I was like, there's no reason like mixing and fucking great 976 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,000 like holy shit, you know, and their prices aren't bad. 977 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,300 Like, you know, you they have a lot of options, especially for 978 00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:49,500 the hardcover like I could have gotten ribbons done but that's, 979 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:52,000 you know, more money and I don't the books not big enough for 980 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,100 ribbons, but I was like, do I want to remove than? 981 00:53:56,100 --> 00:54:02,400 Yeah. I was supposed to ask you about 982 00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:05,900 the math that went into the D, 666 table. 983 00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:08,900 Oh Jesus. How long, how long did it take 984 00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:12,300 us, to figure out how many, we are me and Tom were so bad at 985 00:54:12,300 --> 00:54:13,700 math. I think we spent like an hour 986 00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:14,900 one night. Like, trying to figure out how 987 00:54:14,900 --> 00:54:18,000 many entries go into a d66 able because we could not fucking 988 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,800 remember? Yeah, we were like, is it? 989 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,800 218 is 236, is it 216? Like what the fuck? 990 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,500 And I had to, like, go through and count every single one. 991 00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:31,400 And then after like, the book was in layout. 992 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,400 I realized that I missed one like a whole number, like a 993 00:54:34,408 --> 00:54:36,200 whole entry. I just wasn't in there and I was 994 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,600 like, Fuck, inside a come up with one on the spot and then 995 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,300 I'll be like, is this for get? This is work. 996 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,500 But yeah, that was hilarious. So some out is the final number. 997 00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:47,100 What is D? 666. 998 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,600 Don't ask me. I don't know. 999 00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:53,400 I think it's, I think it's six times. 1000 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,500 Six times six, right? It's yeah, so it's too okay. 1001 00:54:56,500 --> 00:55:03,000 Hey Thrift, thank you for if his written the D 6666 means. 1002 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:08,400 Twice. I think so, Thrift would know. 1003 00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:15,000 Yeah, 216 1296, they're, they're good 1206, yeah, let's yeah. 1004 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,800 Okay. Can imagine in 1296 problems of 1005 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,500 illegal. Literally, if I get anything, I 1006 00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:21,900 can't, and Thrift is done it twice for Troika. 1007 00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:24,900 So she gets all the praise in the world for that. 1008 00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,800 Man, I we talked about Troika you're a huge strike a fan. 1009 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,200 I'm still, I'm still on the fence. 1010 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,600 You know what, I got recently that made me like not like truck 1011 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,900 or more but is the kind of truck I liked. 1012 00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:42,400 I actually recently got the medic or ghost book that they 1013 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,200 finally put out. It's more of an adventure than a 1014 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,900 lot of the other Troika books that I've gotten a lot of them. 1015 00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:52,300 A lot of trick I get is like here's like one page of setting 1016 00:55:52,300 --> 00:55:55,200 and here's like 30-something backgrounds, go play a game but 1017 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,500 I'm like, I need more. Like I need like it's a lot of 1018 00:55:57,500 --> 00:55:59,700 implied stuff. A lot of like open doors for you 1019 00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:03,000 to run into. I need a little bit more and 1020 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,600 meta gorgo says an actual like setting and stuff for time like 1021 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,000 this, that literally like, okay, now I get Troika, you know what 1022 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,700 I mean? Because it's a great setting or 1023 00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:13,000 yeah system. Yeah. 1024 00:56:13,700 --> 00:56:15,300 So I think more than anything, it's just the way that people 1025 00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:18,300 write the supplements, I'm like, I need just a little bit more 1026 00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:20,100 structure. My brain does not function in a 1027 00:56:20,107 --> 00:56:23,300 way where I can just like, like, have someone open a door and go, 1028 00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:25,300 go do whatever you want? Like, I mean, hallways, you know 1029 00:56:25,308 --> 00:56:26,700 what I mean? I need other Is to open. 1030 00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:29,200 Yeah, no for sure. And that's actually something 1031 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:35,100 I've kind of migrated into as as opposed to away from is using 1032 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,700 and enjoying Adventures pre-written Adventures as 1033 00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:44,700 opposed to this like PBT a style like anything goes, you play 1034 00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:47,300 the, you just play the story and narrate. 1035 00:56:47,300 --> 00:56:49,000 What happens in see where you go? 1036 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,200 No Adventures. Kind of like no prep TMS and 1037 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,800 stuff like, that's how I've always played. 1038 00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:58,000 But lately, I'm like, no people put a lot of effort into writing 1039 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,400 adventures and people are really good at writing Adventures. 1040 00:57:00,700 --> 00:57:04,200 Why would I not want to play them right there? 1041 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,200 So cool, I haven't gotten Metagross yet. 1042 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:13,300 I've heard it's fucking amazing. I do have a great one called the 1043 00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:15,100 forest primordial, which I really liked. 1044 00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:17,300 I ran that for my girlfriend last year, and that was really 1045 00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:19,200 early this year and it's really good. 1046 00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:23,000 But that's actually one of the reasons why I'm running the 1047 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:27,200 trick Tober Fest Jam. Is because I want more people to 1048 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,100 write Troika Adventures because so many people just write 1049 00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:32,400 backgrounds, which is what you're saying, is that there's 1050 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,800 books? You know, and that's not a bad 1051 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,100 thing. Backgrounds are fun, backgrounds 1052 00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:36,700 are super fun, I write them loving. 1053 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,000 I've got a thing of backgrounds coming out next year with a 1054 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,200 couple other really cool people, but that was like, everybody 1055 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,600 fucking rights backgrounds. I want more trick Adventures 1056 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,600 because trick Adventures, if for nothing else are just fun to 1057 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,400 read because they're just so wild. 1058 00:57:52,700 --> 00:57:56,100 And, and I want More of that. So like that. 1059 00:57:56,100 --> 00:58:00,000 Yeah, I was like, when you do a game jam on itch but you're not 1060 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,100 allowed to do anything except for writing an adventure for 1061 00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:03,600 Troika. That's what it's for and you 1062 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,300 don't get to submit anything else. 1063 00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:08,800 No bad specify than just. I actually I've specified, you 1064 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,000 are not allowed to add backgrounds to your tree or 1065 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,600 Adventure, if you do it gets disqualified from the dam like 1066 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,700 you're not allowed its Adventures only. 1067 00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:18,900 So listen, that's the jam. I gotta, I gotta snatch on to 1068 00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:21,400 that when we eventually played Troika heater on the on the 1069 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,100 adventure archive. So yeah, really excited to and 1070 00:58:24,300 --> 00:58:26,800 Gorges to, like I said, the problem with collecting so many 1071 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,600 games because I have to fucking many games into to the amount of 1072 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:34,500 money I spend, it's unnecessary, but the problem is with 1073 00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:37,100 adventures and stuff like that, I never want to read them, 1074 00:58:37,300 --> 00:58:38,800 right? So like the number of games that 1075 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,000 we've reviewed on stream and I'm literally, like I want to read 1076 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,000 the adventure for this so bad, but I also want to fucking play 1077 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,300 this adventure and if I read it, I can't ever play it. 1078 00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:49,200 Like, I haven't read the starter adventure for cyborg. 1079 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,600 I haven't read the starter adventure for gosh. 1080 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,900 Like like Frontier scalp like Any of those things? 1081 00:58:54,900 --> 00:58:58,300 Any of the ones that we've gone over even well the know I read 1082 00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:00,200 the one for Derek because I'm gonna do derf and I'm like I 1083 00:59:00,207 --> 00:59:04,000 just want to read this so bad but maybe maybe Jason Errata and 1084 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,200 maybe I'll actually get to play this one, you know? 1085 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,200 Yeah, somebody gorgos I've touched into it a little bit. 1086 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,500 I've done. Whatever I've seen the structure 1087 00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:12,800 of a little bit more but I'm like, man, if I could get like a 1088 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,000 me to run Medic or goes instead of me having to run it and I get 1089 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,100 to experience it Debbie. Great. 1090 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,300 So we'll see but Troika. Jim means there's ton of 1091 00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:23,400 Adventures out there so that's always an option. 1092 00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:25,500 Yeah. I mean that's yeah like I was 1093 00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:28,600 about to say the same thing as Thrift just just fucking read 1094 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,700 them anyway man. Like I know that there's that 1095 00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:33,900 sense of exploration and Discovery when you go into this 1096 00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:35,800 like Adventure completely blind, right? 1097 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,800 I know that feeling well but like if there's something you 1098 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,300 really want to read you just got to read it like you know, the 1099 00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:45,300 aisle, Luke earrings, the aisle is like spectacular, right? 1100 00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:48,400 I mean I have a picture of me reading it in my pool like I was 1101 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,300 literally like that's how it grossed in it. 1102 00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:56,400 I was it was just so good and I already forget Get like almost 1103 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,300 all of the thing because I read it like, 32 months ago, or 1104 00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:02,300 whatever. So, like maybe that's maybe 1105 01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:06,900 that's a plus side of having, you know, a th DS that I can 1106 01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:09,400 read adventures and then not even remember I own them and 1107 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,800 then somebody else will run them in a way that sounds familiar. 1108 01:00:12,500 --> 01:00:16,300 The number of times I've had to dig through my my library to be. 1109 01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:19,200 Like, do I own this book yet? Because I feel like I own this 1110 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,000 book already, but I don't know. This blanket and then I then I'm 1111 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,800 like oh wait. No, I do own it and I read it 1112 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,700 like three. Times is too many times. 1113 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,500 Yeah, like the number of times I've almost bought bones deep 1114 01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:33,000 again is ridiculous. And then all of the Post-it 1115 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,900 notes that have to like constantly be here. 1116 01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:39,100 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight five, nine. 1117 01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:40,400 Post-it notes in front of me right now. 1118 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,400 You're more organized plan on half of them. 1119 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:51,400 Yeah, what What did I feel like I scratched off my last 1120 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,300 question. What the d66 math? 1121 01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:56,200 What? What else we got to talk about? 1122 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,500 I got some upcoming things that are I'm excited about working on 1123 01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:03,600 its upcoming. What back her up? 1124 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,200 I got a Mothership pamphlet coming out, so finishing that 1125 01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,100 up. So I don't have a timeframe for 1126 01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:12,000 that. I got to Troika things. 1127 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,000 I'm working on, one will be sometime next year. 1128 01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:19,100 That's a bigger, a bigger Adventure that I'm working on 1129 01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:23,000 that. I'm trying to try to explore 1130 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,300 some of my childhood Trauma from religion with. 1131 01:01:26,300 --> 01:01:27,500 So we'll see. That works. 1132 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,800 Which is another reason why I think eventually writing is so 1133 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,500 cool. It's a good way to explore that 1134 01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:36,200 kind of stuff and then we got a big project and working with Tom 1135 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,000 and a bunch of other people I've chatted with Tom a bit about the 1136 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,600 yeah, which is going to be really cool. 1137 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:47,500 I'm excited about that. And let's see, I got a I got a 1138 01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:51,500 project that I'm working on with Luke gearing and a couple other 1139 01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:55,600 people that's going to be. It's just a it's just a Troika 1140 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,300 background Goofy. Project. 1141 01:01:57,300 --> 01:02:00,600 But it's fun. It's it's called d66 pack, and 1142 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:05,100 it's going to be 36 coasters. Each of them, has a unique 1143 01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:08,600 Troika background on it and there are written by six 1144 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,800 different authors. Each author doing. 1145 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,200 Six backgrounds. See, that's awesome, though. 1146 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,400 That's something you can have in use a mic. 1147 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,200 Yeah, exactly. Really have fun with that's 1148 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:17,700 awesome. Yeah. 1149 01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:20,600 So I'm working on finding a laser cutter right now or a 1150 01:02:20,607 --> 01:02:24,700 printer to do like, wooden ones and probably do a pre-order 1151 01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:26,500 situation for that. Just to cover the, got you the 1152 01:02:26,500 --> 01:02:29,100 call. + + + looking. I mean, fuck Lou. 1153 01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:33,100 Gearing is a really, really awesome writer so work and he's 1154 01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:36,200 really great how has it been working with? 1155 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,600 Like, I mean did you know a lot of people in the industry a year 1156 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,400 ago when you first started or is this all just come about now the 1157 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,000 enough no I didn't really I still I still feel like I don't 1158 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:52,500 know anybody but now I mean it's kind of you meet the right 1159 01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:54,600 person. You make the right friends and 1160 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,800 then you just kind of meet people through a of people and, 1161 01:02:58,300 --> 01:03:04,900 you know, I would say, I gotta I gotta say like going back to 1162 01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:07,600 like our first. Our first thing we were talking 1163 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,300 about when I first got started like Jarrett Crater from his who 1164 01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:16,700 was at exalted funeral. He's just like the He's like the 1165 01:03:16,700 --> 01:03:21,800 reason why I'm still doing this, he is like an amazing person 1166 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:29,000 first off but he like he kind of like gave me a lot of guidance 1167 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,600 for no reason. Like he saw the game that I 1168 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,500 wanted the publish. He was the first person. 1169 01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:37,400 I think the first person that ever bought, one of my games on 1170 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,900 itch and I was like, who the fuck is this? 1171 01:03:40,300 --> 01:03:42,700 And then I realized it wasn't. I was like why the fuck did he 1172 01:03:42,700 --> 01:03:50,400 like it? And then and then I I think I 1173 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,500 sent my think I sent like a digital version out to like the 1174 01:03:54,500 --> 01:03:58,300 exalted funerals Discord. And I was like, hey, check this 1175 01:03:58,300 --> 01:03:59,900 out. And then like I don't remember 1176 01:03:59,900 --> 01:04:02,500 if I emailed him or if he messaged me on Discord and was 1177 01:04:02,500 --> 01:04:03,800 like, hey do you want to print this? 1178 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,800 And I was like, are you fucking kidding me? 1179 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,500 Like and he just you know he helped me so much. 1180 01:04:09,500 --> 01:04:12,600 He did a lot of editing for me in the early stages before like 1181 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,400 I had any money to pay people for editing and he was just like 1182 01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:18,000 Let me just do this, like I'll just help you out like you know, 1183 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,600 you're getting started and he pointed me in the right 1184 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,000 direction. Gave me all kinds of like tips 1185 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,800 and like, you know, any still like just he's fucking knees. 1186 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,700 These amazing. And that's one of the reasons 1187 01:04:27,700 --> 01:04:29,400 and he's one of the people that kind of connect to meet other 1188 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,900 people. And that's kind of where, where 1189 01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:34,100 I was getting with that, but I wanted to make sure I went back 1190 01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:35,700 to that and just gave him like the biggest. 1191 01:04:35,700 --> 01:04:38,300 Shout out of all time, because the Dude is, is incredible. 1192 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,100 I wouldn't even be doing this. It wasn't for his, like, 1193 01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:47,700 encouragement in the early days. So, So yeah, that's that's 1194 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,600 that's a dancer. Yeah. 1195 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,000 I mean I haven't had the pleasure, but I know a lot of 1196 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,300 people you are not the first person that said that, he 1197 01:04:56,300 --> 01:04:58,600 doesn't know that, he's an awesome, awesome person. 1198 01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:03,100 So really interesting to see how some of the stuff is going to 1199 01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:07,900 play out with with some stuff. I even forget the question that 1200 01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:09,500 I asked that even got us to that question. 1201 01:05:11,300 --> 01:05:14,300 Did I know people before or right? 1202 01:05:14,300 --> 01:05:15,400 Yeah. And then you're talking about a 1203 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,100 lot of these connections are. Yeah, a lot of these connections 1204 01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:23,000 are newer within the past few months, but, you know, it's one 1205 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,000 of the things I've come to realize, is that like these 1206 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,600 people. They're, they're also just 1207 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,700 people, you know, so like a lot of these people seem, like 1208 01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:36,300 these, like big scary game. Developers, like Luke gearing is 1209 01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:40,500 like, Literally a goofball, you know, he's this big scary dude 1210 01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:43,900 who writes great stuff. And he look, he's like the 1211 01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:46,100 big-name guy, right? And he is, he's fantastic 1212 01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:48,000 writer. But he's also a fun guy and he's 1213 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,200 just cool, dude. Right like. 1214 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,400 So like you just messaged him big. 1215 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,400 Hey, do you want to do this thing? 1216 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,700 And he'll probably be like, yeah, probably, yeah, you don't 1217 01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:55,300 do that. You know? 1218 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,900 Like I was like, hey do you want to do a stupid, stupid coaster 1219 01:05:58,900 --> 01:06:01,600 project for Troika and he was like, that sounds really cool. 1220 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,900 So you know, like that's I'm trying to get There. 1221 01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:09,900 It's, you know, like if I saw like fucking, I don't know. 1222 01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:11,600 I Kardashian to some shit walking down the street and be 1223 01:06:11,607 --> 01:06:15,500 like a Kardashian whatever, you know, but then when when 1224 01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:18,600 somebody in our little niche that like 99.9 percent, the 1225 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,000 population doesn't know about, I'm just like, like, oh man, 1226 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,500 like I got a tweet or whatever and I'm gonna try to get past 1227 01:06:25,500 --> 01:06:27,800 that, it's funny because I wrote something about that once where 1228 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,100 I basically said that similar thing and then like johaug all, 1229 01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:33,000 like, tweet something like, hey, we're just people have, like, 1230 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,400 like, call my wife. I'm like, this person really you 1231 01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:42,300 Why do I'm talking about, right? Yeah, I remember that exact 1232 01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:44,400 feeling. It's cool. 1233 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,600 It's cool but I and I don't think it's ever going to go away 1234 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,900 because I mean, even even, you know, and we've been tweeting, 1235 01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:51,700 we've been talking on Twitter for a couple months now, right? 1236 01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:55,200 Like in this point and, you know, it's and how long was it 1237 01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:56,600 before you even asked you to come on the show? 1238 01:06:56,700 --> 01:07:02,700 You know what I mean? But a lot of its that, you know, 1239 01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:05,000 what I mean, a lot of it's just like feeling, you know, like 1240 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,500 we're fucking nothing. You know what I mean? 1241 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,200 As far as the pocket goes, it always started is just like me 1242 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,400 dicking around, Hunter hopping on and doing whatever and then 1243 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:17,400 I've got to meet awesome people like you who at this point this 1244 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,800 is why we do it is to just makes our fucking day like whenever we 1245 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,100 get to have like not only an awesome Creator whose stuff we 1246 01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:26,700 enjoy playing and love reading but then like you said like 1247 01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:29,800 there's people and just about everybody. 1248 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:34,400 I've got to talk to in this in this scene at least is good 1249 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,300 fucking people. You know there's Very few people 1250 01:07:37,300 --> 01:07:38,800 that I've been like, man. Who? 1251 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,000 All right, well glad that one's over. 1252 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,700 You know what I mean? Yeah. 1253 01:07:43,300 --> 01:07:46,700 Which is I mean it's great but also like you know, Twitter's a 1254 01:07:46,707 --> 01:07:51,300 hellscape and I do my best to really filter down to, you know, 1255 01:07:51,300 --> 01:07:54,000 you have there you a very direct audience with that. 1256 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,100 So I can I cannot get, you know, we've lost too many people 1257 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,700 recently in the industry too many good people because of 1258 01:08:01,700 --> 01:08:04,800 because of that kind of stuff. So, yeah, the block button is 1259 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,100 the thing, make sure you use it. So anything else we got coming 1260 01:08:09,100 --> 01:08:10,200 up? I know you said I Mothership 1261 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,600 pamphlet which fuck I can't wait for mother ship to come out. 1262 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,800 I know a lot of people are dropping a lot of Mothership 1263 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,300 stuff and I can't wait for 1e but anything else on the horizon 1264 01:08:19,300 --> 01:08:21,100 we talk about the word framework. 1265 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:26,200 Mothership pamphlet you got The Coasters coming out Tom that you 1266 01:08:26,207 --> 01:08:28,700 know I'll probably crowded with the Troika stuff. 1267 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:33,800 Good game kid that is what I was trying to get to Guild name. 1268 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,100 You sent me. I got a copy that a while to go 1269 01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:37,600 to go through. It's awesome. 1270 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,000 What is what's the plan with Guild gave like when when are we 1271 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,600 going to get the word framework and go game actually like out? 1272 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,600 And is it going to be website? Only we can print it, will very 1273 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:53,100 likely be print, that's the plan and I'm thinking I'm going to do 1274 01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:56,300 kind of what Jared at spear which did with the aisle and the 1275 01:08:56,308 --> 01:09:00,300 vanilla game where it'll do a probably do a pre-order for the 1276 01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:03,200 print copy of Guild game, which will come with a print copy of 1277 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,100 the weird framework and then afterwards it'll Just be print 1278 01:09:07,100 --> 01:09:10,200 copies of Guild game with no copies of the weird framework. 1279 01:09:12,300 --> 01:09:19,700 I I'm hoping to have that going at some point in November but, 1280 01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:21,500 you know, we're working on the editing right now. 1281 01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:27,100 I want to play it a bit and just, you know, I'm pretty 1282 01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:29,300 confident everything. I put into the game at this 1283 01:09:29,300 --> 01:09:30,800 point. It's a, it's a bit different 1284 01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,899 than what I sent you before. Now, you know, I've made some 1285 01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:36,500 minor changes to the way things work, but for the most part, 1286 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,200 Kind of the same, but I just want to like, actually get it to 1287 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,300 the table and be like, okay, you know, normally I don't really 1288 01:09:42,300 --> 01:09:46,000 play test things that are smaller because you can, I, I've 1289 01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,899 gotten to a point where I can kind of look at it and just be 1290 01:09:47,907 --> 01:09:49,500 like, okay, is this going to work or not? 1291 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,800 Which also has helped me clear out my shelves because I can 1292 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,200 read a book and be like, hey is this going to work or not? 1293 01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:58,800 No. Okay. 1294 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:03,900 I'm getting rid of this game but um, but yeah, that's kind of my 1295 01:10:03,900 --> 01:10:07,200 goal is kind of just do that. Like make Sure, make sure it 1296 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,400 functions properly, the way that I wanted to wanted to. 1297 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:12,200 And the way that I really wanted to function is that people get 1298 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,500 it to the table and have fun with it. 1299 01:10:14,500 --> 01:10:15,900 Like, that's the main goal, right? 1300 01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:19,400 That's the only goal. I just want, don't want anything 1301 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,400 to get in the way of that. That's kind of what I'm looking 1302 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,300 for. So that's it. 1303 01:10:23,300 --> 01:10:26,100 Really November. Hopefully we'll get print stuff 1304 01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:32,800 going on and Yeah, we'll see. Hopefully, you know it's going 1305 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,400 to be pretty simple. I'm going to, I'm aiming for a 1306 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,100 nice that my girlfriend's working on a nice crisp like 1307 01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:39,500 black-and-white layout. Everything's going to be super 1308 01:10:39,500 --> 01:10:42,200 clean simple. A lot different than some of our 1309 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,000 like this house is haunted is pretty wild. 1310 01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:46,200 So it's gonna be a lot different than that one. 1311 01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:48,400 It's fun though. It's a good time. 1312 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,800 Like I really enjoy. Especially when you flip to the 1313 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,000 like the very first thing that you like flip to the very first 1314 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,400 one. I'm like, this is a good first 1315 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,200 one. Yeah, I mean this is like it 1316 01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,000 definitely hit you right in the face and goes oh this is what 1317 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,600 this book is. Yeah. 1318 01:11:00,700 --> 01:11:03,300 So my girlfriend did a really good job with this. 1319 01:11:03,300 --> 01:11:06,300 I'm super proud of her work with this book like yeah. 1320 01:11:06,300 --> 01:11:10,300 Exactly. How is it working with your with 1321 01:11:10,300 --> 01:11:12,200 your significant other on on big projects? 1322 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:13,900 Like this? That like with money involved 1323 01:11:13,900 --> 01:11:16,800 and everything, like just it's actually great. 1324 01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:20,700 We don't argue that much about most of the stuff, you know, 1325 01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:23,800 like I've kind of, I don't have a super artistic eye. 1326 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,800 So I kind of just like, let her do, what the fuck she wants with 1327 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:27,600 her stuff. Right. 1328 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,200 I'll tell her kind of like what I'm aiming for or like here's a 1329 01:11:31,208 --> 01:11:34,600 couple things that I think Inspire like for Guild game. 1330 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,700 I showed her the aisle. Micah did great last. 1331 01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:41,800 Out in the aisle and I was like you know, I don't want it to be 1332 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:46,500 this but like you know, think simple clean text, you know, 1333 01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:48,300 just something easy to read, right? 1334 01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:52,600 That's kind of all I said, right for this house is haunted. 1335 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,900 I was like go fucking buck wild with it like use you know do 1336 01:11:55,900 --> 01:11:59,300 photo manipulation dude your own and sketches do whatever the 1337 01:11:59,308 --> 01:12:01,800 fuck you want and I made a couple changes on my own at the 1338 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,700 end just after seeing everything. 1339 01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:06,500 I was like oh you know what? Maybe I actually want to do 1340 01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:08,300 this, right? And you Yeah, I ran up higher 1341 01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:10,400 and we were good. Go every now and then will butt 1342 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,200 heads on like I want this and she's like no. 1343 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,500 But that looks stupid and I'm like, but I want this anyway, 1344 01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:18,300 you know. So you know every now and then 1345 01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:21,300 that happens. But she's a she we're since 1346 01:12:21,300 --> 01:12:24,200 since the website has kicked off and we just did the pre-orders 1347 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,300 and we're sending an email. She's been loving that, that's 1348 01:12:27,300 --> 01:12:29,600 her thing. She loves packaging and sending 1349 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,000 shipments has. So that's like, you know, she's 1350 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,500 like, I'm in charge of the shit, you don't do fucking shit. 1351 01:12:33,500 --> 01:12:36,700 You send me the send me the packing slips and then you don't 1352 01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:40,600 talk to me about it like, You know, so that's her thing, which 1353 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,000 is good because I'm terrible about. 1354 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:47,300 So I'm glad we kind of we really like actually balance out really 1355 01:12:47,300 --> 01:12:49,700 well together with this kind of like business that which is 1356 01:12:49,700 --> 01:12:50,500 great. Yeah. 1357 01:12:50,700 --> 01:12:51,500 Yeah. Since I was fun. 1358 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:56,200 Yeah. All right, let's think I think 1359 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,500 we're I think, I think I've asked you about just about 1360 01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:00,300 everything I possibly can imagine. 1361 01:13:00,900 --> 01:13:03,300 So talk about where I know we talked about your website, a 1362 01:13:03,308 --> 01:13:06,100 bunch. We talked about uh page your 1363 01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:11,200 website is a disaster tourism dot games. 1364 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,900 And then people out there. Yeah, definitely go check that 1365 01:13:14,900 --> 01:13:15,900 out. It looks fantastic. 1366 01:13:15,900 --> 01:13:18,300 You changed it even since last time I looked at it because I 1367 01:13:18,308 --> 01:13:21,600 think this big header across the top, has not always been there. 1368 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,400 There was like more purple on it. 1369 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,200 I think before too. When I went home. 1370 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,000 Maybe. Yeah, maybe I don't remember 1371 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:39,100 ever and and then your each page you are disaster tourism on 1372 01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:41,400 itch. Yep there's s tourism that itch. 1373 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:47,900 .I oh yeah, I on there. Just is just digital stuff. 1374 01:13:47,900 --> 01:13:52,100 I'm updating I think right now I have everything up to date as 1375 01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:58,000 far as what our recent stuff is. And I've kind of removed. 1376 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,900 Yeah, I've removed the older older things, like bucket, bash, 1377 01:14:00,900 --> 01:14:05,100 and the old paranormal slasher off my itch now and updated 1378 01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:07,300 versions or now on there, so people want to pick them up. 1379 01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:09,400 Now they're going to get the new editions of the games, but you 1380 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:14,200 can also get them as a Three pack kind of thing on my website 1381 01:14:14,300 --> 01:14:18,300 for a discounted rate. Now, at one point your reps, I 1382 01:14:18,300 --> 01:14:21,400 did have a merch tab that was completely empty when we can 1383 01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,700 disaster tourism merch. When can I wear, I? 1384 01:14:23,700 --> 01:14:27,200 So, we had some sure, we had, we had disaster. 1385 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,900 Tours on merch, we will have it again. 1386 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,400 Never fear. Kristen is currently working on 1387 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,000 that. We had a couple T-shirts that 1388 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,000 were pretty popular. Some people really like them. 1389 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,800 Yeah, the melty, the melty skull is one of my faves, she's going 1390 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,100 to redo that. When I actually. 1391 01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:46,000 And we're probably going to use some some of the money we get 1392 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,100 out of the books and actually order, like stock of shirts, 1393 01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:51,300 instead of doing like a threadless thing. 1394 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,000 And we're going to do like patches, some patches and some 1395 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,700 more stickers and stuff like that. 1396 01:14:56,700 --> 01:15:01,800 So it's coming soon but we're still working on that and I'll 1397 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,800 shoot you I'll shoot you some freebies for you know because 1398 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:10,800 you know Have a good week ago. People were buds Caribbean 1399 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,600 disaster to Friend of the show friend of the show part of the 1400 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:20,200 elite, the elite out there that have been, okay, so we're so 1401 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,300 we're not done yet today, actually, I don't even talk 1402 01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:25,800 about Tom, a lot for those that don't know what time dice Maven 1403 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,600 me and Kirby about to just hop off for just a second. 1404 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,200 And Tom is actually going to come on, and we're going to go 1405 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,700 through both weird and wired here on the show in the North. 1406 01:15:35,900 --> 01:15:40,300 Weekly scroll fashion talk about these actually review them as 1407 01:15:40,300 --> 01:15:44,000 games because we are ostensibly a game review podcast and we're 1408 01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,800 going to keep doing the giveaway until the end of the show. 1409 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:51,600 And then, you know, I'll pick a couple of winners and and we'll 1410 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,600 send those out to you soft covers of this house is haunted. 1411 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,600 That, you know, we've been talking about, that's my 1412 01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,600 background here, you know, and everything. 1413 01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,600 So Kirby, thank you so much for coming on, I super appreciate 1414 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,100 it. Thanks for, you know, providing 1415 01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:05,300 the stuff for the for the giveaways and everything salute. 1416 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,300 I'm super excited for everything that's coming out. 1417 01:16:08,300 --> 01:16:12,300 You know that I mean I'm gonna have all of it so I know you I 1418 01:16:12,300 --> 01:16:15,000 know you. So so yeah. 1419 01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:20,500 So stick with us everybody. I'll be back in just a minute 1420 01:16:20,500 --> 01:16:22,900 and we'll keep going. So see you in a second. 1421 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,700 Thank you for tuning into the weekly. 1422 01:16:29,700 --> 01:16:32,500 Scroll podcast. 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Every Saturday morning at 8:00 1433 01:17:03,700 --> 01:17:04,800 a.m. Pacific 10 a.m. 1434 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,800 Central and now we get back to our episode. 1435 01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:15,800 Hello and welcome to the weekly schorl podcast. 1436 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,300 I started like we started and haven't been live for an hour 1437 01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:20,900 and 40 minutes but we're actually just back. 1438 01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:25,900 It is me Ryan and Tom also known as dice Maven, how you doing? 1439 01:17:25,900 --> 01:17:30,500 Top been pretty well, huh? Out you, you know, I mean I'm 1440 01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:33,400 very tired and keep blanking out, but we'll get through the 1441 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:37,400 day. Um, so for those who have come 1442 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,400 in and the next and the last, like 10, 15 minutes. 1443 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,100 We were just interviewing Kirby from disaster tourism. 1444 01:17:42,300 --> 01:17:45,400 I'm in Tom's name, came up quite a bit because Tom, is a pretty 1445 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:54,200 cool person. I believe, at least we first met 1446 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:59,500 during exalted con right for Deal of lead with colonist or 1447 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,300 yeah. And since then I've also reached 1448 01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:07,100 out to Colin a bunch more and you know, I wouldn't say we're 1449 01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:11,100 buds or anything but like I think that's popped up in the 1450 01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:15,700 interview of like how there's a feeling of like these authors, 1451 01:18:15,700 --> 01:18:20,300 who put out some the really like and you're like oh wow. 1452 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,700 But then you get to know them they're like oh you are just 1453 01:18:23,700 --> 01:18:29,900 dude. Yeah again I'm trying to get to 1454 01:18:29,900 --> 01:18:33,100 that point with a lot of people split steered it is. 1455 01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:39,000 Speaking of Colin say I we might be here a little bit more Colin 1456 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,400 here on the show in the next couple of weeks. 1457 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:44,000 So we'll we'll see. We'll see how that goes. 1458 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:49,600 But um but since then you know, we've been chatting a bunch and 1459 01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:53,900 and then when I was going to occur Beyond, I know that you 1460 01:18:53,900 --> 01:18:58,100 guys are buds actually more than I thought I didn't know you had 1461 01:18:58,100 --> 01:19:02,900 done as much work with him as with with them as as came up 1462 01:19:02,900 --> 01:19:07,100 during the interview. So how did you first meet her? 1463 01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:08,700 Be those games were about to go over. 1464 01:19:09,700 --> 01:19:16,000 Whoo. So it's a comp probably being on 1465 01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:21,300 the exalted funerals, former official non-official Discord 1466 01:19:21,300 --> 01:19:31,100 than Acropolis and yeah, sorry, they reached out to me and That 1467 01:19:31,100 --> 01:19:35,000 we started talking about RPGs and stuff from there. 1468 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:41,200 There's some Tick Tock stuff as well as on the Tickety Tock is 1469 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:45,700 that we're at one point I still am. 1470 01:19:45,700 --> 01:19:50,300 I think the last time I was on there like posting anything? 1471 01:19:50,300 --> 01:19:55,300 Like I look like I'm being held captive promoting my own game. 1472 01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:01,100 The. Well, were you was that the we 1473 01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:03,100 uncheck doctor fungible fungi able? 1474 01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:07,700 Yeah there's a there's a pretty awkward like I had I'm bad at 1475 01:20:07,700 --> 01:20:10,000 writing down things and reading them. 1476 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,000 So I just had to like keep recording off the top of my head 1477 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,700 and like, say the say this say this, I don't think I blink 1478 01:20:16,700 --> 01:20:23,200 while doing it. And now look at us now, we're 1479 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:28,600 here. So so when I was, when I finally 1480 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,000 did ask her to be on the show, you know, we are a game review 1481 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,400 podcast, so I was like, okay, like we're going to talk about 1482 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,100 this house is haunted. We're going to do a giveaway 1483 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,200 still going on. If you're in chat I'm you 1484 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,000 haven't been here in the beginning, just hit exclamation 1485 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,300 point giveaway. We're going to be giving away 1486 01:20:41,300 --> 01:20:44,200 three soft covers of Kirby's, new book. 1487 01:20:45,100 --> 01:20:49,800 This house is haunted but I was like what game could we do and 1488 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,400 also block They word are weird. We have to do weird, but you 1489 01:20:53,900 --> 01:20:58,400 have to do wired, because weird is not a big game and we've 1490 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,900 talked about profane word and stuff before as well. 1491 01:21:01,700 --> 01:21:03,300 So this is what we're going to do today. 1492 01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:07,000 That's our plan. Once I stop rambling is Tom and 1493 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:11,900 I are going to go over weird. I do want to talk about some of 1494 01:21:11,900 --> 01:21:14,400 your stuff you got going on to do, you want to do that? 1495 01:21:14,500 --> 01:21:19,200 Beginning July the, yeah, I don't mind leading a little bit 1496 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,100 in with that. So So you mentioned the profane 1497 01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:28,300 weird, the evening before like we met through playing, we deal 1498 01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:36,000 in lead at exalted con. I was actually up super late 1499 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:43,000 since Gabe, the author had covid, and we were just trying 1500 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:49,700 to get that ashcan like out and into the exalted funeral free 1501 01:21:49,700 --> 01:21:55,700 RPG bundle and Like, that was the whole thing. 1502 01:21:55,700 --> 01:21:57,900 I just completely whacked my sleep schedule. 1503 01:21:57,900 --> 01:22:03,600 So, like because I remember, we had to be up pretty early for 1504 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,700 that or late. However you see. 1505 01:22:05,700 --> 01:22:14,200 It is Collins time zone. So yeah, I did the editing and 1506 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,900 like Dove on that Gabe is an awesome author. 1507 01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:22,100 I look forward to seeing the non ashcan version. 1508 01:22:22,100 --> 01:22:26,100 I've been getting teased. There's of the layout looks 1509 01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:31,800 phenomenal and it does add a little bit of a weird crunch 1510 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,800 which some people might like that. 1511 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:38,200 Some people might not and that's the beautiful part about the 1512 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:44,800 whole weird framework. Like when I talk to her be about 1513 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,100 it, I say you know that's almost more of a game engine than it is 1514 01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:50,600 a game but it's still a completely functional game. 1515 01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:57,100 Like it's More minimalist than say, like games on divorces, 1516 01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:02,400 17th century minimalist. Which I believe they pull from a 1517 01:23:02,407 --> 01:23:04,600 lot of similar Inspirations as well. 1518 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,700 I, I'm not going to put words in Kirby's. 1519 01:23:06,700 --> 01:23:12,200 Mouth on that though. But yeah, so I'm currently 1520 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:17,800 working on a flip book. I think, is the term for that? 1521 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:22,400 Where one side has like 30 pages and then upside down flip it, 1522 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,700 got another? Yeah. 1523 01:23:25,700 --> 01:23:30,000 It's the Divine weird and the Arcane weird and the Arcane 1524 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:35,800 weird covers creating spells I'm borrowing some ideas from Thrift 1525 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,400 mm answers incantations for bastard. 1526 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,900 Do you recall asking permission to have a role tables and stuff 1527 01:23:45,900 --> 01:23:48,400 like that for making cool spells? 1528 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:55,100 And I'm very excited about that stuff, like miscast backfiring 1529 01:23:55,300 --> 01:24:00,200 and not to pull too much from DC, but something similar to 1530 01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,300 spell burn will definitely be in there. 1531 01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,100 It's nice and weird. And then the Divine weird will 1532 01:24:06,100 --> 01:24:13,000 cover more clerical priest. I suppose. 1533 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,800 It. Do you like the vine side of 1534 01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,800 casting if that makes any sense? And yeah. 1535 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,400 Absolutely. The rituals and also, how to 1536 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,900 make your own five. God, Pantheon. 1537 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,100 As as someone who has done a little bit of world-building, 1538 01:24:34,100 --> 01:24:36,500 that's always a little bit of a pain, you know? 1539 01:24:37,300 --> 01:24:43,100 Yeah, absolutely. And so I have the have that on 1540 01:24:43,100 --> 01:24:50,700 the burners right now. Along with How Bizarre 36 weird 1541 01:24:50,700 --> 01:24:56,700 merchants and it'll be a little bit of a paragraph prompt. 1542 01:24:56,900 --> 01:25:02,200 Probably a bit less than that of some quirky Merchants. 1543 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,100 They can just weave into your weird Adventures or campaigns. 1544 01:25:06,300 --> 01:25:09,000 Like that's what I love about this framework. 1545 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:15,300 Is that you can expand it into more than a single Like one 1546 01:25:15,300 --> 01:25:18,800 shot, you can actually play small proper campaign. 1547 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,000 If you want to like tack on these additional things or just 1548 01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,300 make up your own, you can calvinball it and it's totally 1549 01:25:25,300 --> 01:25:27,300 fine. Absolutely. 1550 01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:30,100 And like you said is I mean it's more of an engine than anything 1551 01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,300 and I mean even looking at weird versus word, which we going to 1552 01:25:34,300 --> 01:25:36,600 do today, you can see like the slight differences, I can fit a 1553 01:25:36,608 --> 01:25:39,000 whole different game, so it's definitely going to be. 1554 01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,900 I'm excited for all of this stuff that's coming out from 1555 01:25:43,900 --> 01:25:46,000 something. Literally, like one of the 1556 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,700 smallest games I've probably ever read. 1557 01:25:47,700 --> 01:25:50,700 That's that's not a business card. 1558 01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:56,700 And yeah, it is. I voted for broadsheet when they 1559 01:25:56,700 --> 01:26:02,400 were choosing formats but they happen I was told this is going 1560 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,000 to be the summer of the broadsheet. 1561 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:09,300 I was let down. I mean, it could be the the 1562 01:26:09,300 --> 01:26:11,600 winter of the broad sheet. If you want to start bringing it 1563 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:15,000 back, it's gotta start somewhere. 1564 01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:21,700 Since I think mix em does not have a trifold pamphlets. 1565 01:26:21,700 --> 01:26:27,100 Currently maybe might be doing the by folds are ya. 1566 01:26:28,900 --> 01:26:32,600 And is there any non word related project? 1567 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,700 You want to talk about it at ease a little bit or sticking 1568 01:26:35,700 --> 01:26:38,800 with it? I'll stick to the theme because 1569 01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,800 anyone, who knows, knows that fungible is currently pre 1570 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,000 orderable right now on backer kit. 1571 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,800 And there's plenty of links to that on my socials, which are 1572 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,200 all at dice Maven. And if you find one, that is not 1573 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,600 me. Well, you know, show them some 1574 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,900 love, maybe, I don't know. I, we talked about it on with 1575 01:26:59,900 --> 01:27:01,700 Kirby a little bit. I cannot wait for. 1576 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,900 Did we, did you know? It was fungi able is it, are we 1577 01:27:05,900 --> 01:27:09,300 funding? Now we're I am loving the. 1578 01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:13,500 I will probably add a note in there saying, you can feel free 1579 01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:16,200 to pronounce this. However, you like, as I realize, 1580 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:23,100 it's not quite a portmanteau. It is just a it is a name visual 1581 01:27:23,100 --> 01:27:28,600 gag and I've heard funky available fungi liable, fungible 1582 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,800 fungi, labels what I said at first because I think I told you 1583 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,600 is a shower thought where I'm just going fungible fungal Bowl. 1584 01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,300 And that led to the whole concept. 1585 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,800 So yeah, what's funny is I've actually some people have looked 1586 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,300 at it and thought it was they know the word fungible when 1587 01:27:45,300 --> 01:27:48,700 their head went, well, I guess it's spelled with an i I 1588 01:27:48,700 --> 01:27:52,000 wouldn't have thought and then didn't put together that it was 1589 01:27:52,500 --> 01:27:56,800 fungi as in the mushroom as in, that's a whole thing. 1590 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,700 So it's maybe a dash would have been a smart idea. 1591 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,300 Hey listen, man, it's up to interpretation. 1592 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:06,200 It is what it is. And I'm a big fan of that. 1593 01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,300 Hey, II can't wait, you know what, I can't wait for his that 1594 01:28:09,300 --> 01:28:13,400 challenge going. That is what I just pushed out 1595 01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,400 an update a little bit ago on that. 1596 01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:20,000 And I cannot wait until October 24th, I believe is when that's 1597 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:27,000 going to arrive, the five proof copies and they do looks a 1598 01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,300 little over two weeks. We'll get, we'll get some on 1599 01:28:29,300 --> 01:28:32,100 that. And you know, we love LF 0s are 1600 01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:36,800 here both within the dark with Fungible and with everything 1601 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,700 else. So we'll can't quite. 1602 01:28:39,700 --> 01:28:43,200 Yeah, I got, I gotta, I gotta finalize the bookshelf and then 1603 01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,000 I'll have a nice big lfos. Our section that fungible can 1604 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:52,600 just go right in there with so-so Getting to the heat. 1605 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:56,200 The the the weirdness here we're going to start with weird. 1606 01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,500 I brought up profane word. This is from, as you said Gabe, 1607 01:29:00,700 --> 01:29:03,200 its Copper State Games. A thumbs. 1608 01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,400 Yep, great great, great thing. Excited for the actual addition 1609 01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,500 to this to, you can still find the ashcan addition on their 1610 01:29:09,500 --> 01:29:12,200 itch page if I believe. But this is a really cool kind 1611 01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:17,000 of big expansion to word. But word is probably the 1612 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,900 smallest gave them will ever talk about on this show. 1613 01:29:20,500 --> 01:29:24,500 So we're going to Into it. First of all, I mean, even just 1614 01:29:24,500 --> 01:29:27,000 layout Wise, It's all, you know, public domain art. 1615 01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:31,000 But I love all of it. It's just that this is exactly 1616 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:36,100 like the, the kind of, you know, medieval English kind of, you 1617 01:29:36,100 --> 01:29:40,100 know, woodcarving ish kind of design. 1618 01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:42,300 It gives you a Vibe. The second you see that first 1619 01:29:42,300 --> 01:29:44,800 page and just and just the cover alone, you're like, alright, I 1620 01:29:44,808 --> 01:29:46,900 know what the fuck this is. Yeah, I need a moment. 1621 01:29:46,900 --> 01:29:53,400 You open it and there's the Yeah, let's go over here. 1622 01:29:53,700 --> 01:29:58,600 Yeah, that's a dog. Serpent net with wings biting a 1623 01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,000 neck. Yeah, yeah. 1624 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,300 I love it so much. Like, you know what, you're 1625 01:30:03,300 --> 01:30:06,100 getting into right off the bat, exactly. 1626 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:11,400 And this is weird, wir d and Ultra rules light osr, 1627 01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:14,600 sword-and-sorcery a game. For one, two, three players 1628 01:30:15,100 --> 01:30:16,600 here. Is that paves that we were just 1629 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:20,700 talking about? I think I might be zoomed in a 1630 01:30:20,700 --> 01:30:24,500 little bit. This I am so this does not have 1631 01:30:24,500 --> 01:30:27,600 singles, this is all spread. So let me back up. 1632 01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:32,200 Just enough to get the full spread on the page and what? 1633 01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,800 I'll probably end up doing since it spreads a whole way, is to 1634 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:43,300 put this into two page, display single page view. 1635 01:30:44,900 --> 01:30:50,600 Let's unzoom this and then I can actually just tweak the page 1636 01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:55,600 itself that were on. I just went ahead and pop the 1637 01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,000 fungible pre-order store there because there is one week 1638 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,800 remaining on that. Just shoot me the link. 1639 01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:05,800 I don't think it like I put it in Riyadh this court or did it 1640 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,400 not work? Not Discord. 1641 01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,100 Oh, you put it so it you can't. You don't got no, I don't got 1642 01:31:11,100 --> 01:31:12,500 the. It's all. 1643 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:14,400 Just drop the link in the description. 1644 01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:19,100 I'll pop it in there. Well, do and yeah, definitely 1645 01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:22,600 check out fungible fungi. Horrible fungible. 1646 01:31:23,300 --> 01:31:25,600 Realize there's one week left. Otherwise I would have leaned a 1647 01:31:25,608 --> 01:31:28,200 bit more into this. There we go. 1648 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,500 One is there is still some lfos are copies as well? 1649 01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:37,300 Yeah, fungible, dot back kit.com, you can just Google, 1650 01:31:37,300 --> 01:31:41,300 you know, F you and Gia ble Russian alone. 1651 01:31:41,300 --> 01:31:43,400 Like all those things you can get the link to, that will drop 1652 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:47,100 the link to in our stuff. We put this out as well. 1653 01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:50,500 So one week left, I highly recommend the lfsr copies and 1654 01:31:50,500 --> 01:31:51,400 the challenge coins and everything. 1655 01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,400 So snag that we'll talk about that again, at the end of this 1656 01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,900 room as well. That's a gift to derailed the 1657 01:31:56,900 --> 01:32:00,000 LFO. Our copies are really sick as 1658 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:05,100 they are being made from a small paper mill in San Francisco. 1659 01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:10,800 I want to say that is using the employees junk, mail to re pulp 1660 01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,400 and hand make the paper like paper. 1661 01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:19,000 So it is very fitting for the environmentalist themes as it 1662 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:24,700 has zero trees, used to make this paper but also with 1663 01:32:24,700 --> 01:32:28,400 fungible and all that kind of stuff using recycled Junk mail. 1664 01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:33,600 Also feels very, yeah. I think in one of the images 1665 01:32:33,700 --> 01:32:36,700 teasing that you can just see like the word like spinach like 1666 01:32:36,700 --> 01:32:42,800 faintly in there. So anyways, weird weird. 1667 01:32:42,900 --> 01:32:45,300 Yeah, so getting into weird here. 1668 01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:47,600 Weird is a fantasy sword and sorcery. 1669 01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,800 Tabletop role-playing game from one of three players, he can be 1670 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:54,200 played with or without a game. Master is your destiny to become 1671 01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:58,000 a Great Hero, Revere the world over or will you turn your On 1672 01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:02,200 what has been afforded to you, taking what you want at the cost 1673 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:06,500 of all others. So I mean realistically, that's 1674 01:33:06,500 --> 01:33:08,600 like 10% of the text right there. 1675 01:33:09,300 --> 01:33:12,200 Yeah. And that's genuinely almost all 1676 01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,500 you need besides the rolling up a character. 1677 01:33:15,500 --> 01:33:21,400 I when I did my playtesting, I was using a Oracle system that 1678 01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:28,900 spooky Rusty recommended of grabbing a like Any sort of book 1679 01:33:28,900 --> 01:33:32,800 opening to a random page and just picking a random sentence, 1680 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:37,200 I think they might have had more rules on it like rolling for the 1681 01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:42,400 paragraph or something. I streamlined it a bit and kind 1682 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:48,100 of treated it like the dark Fort supplement for Merck border or 1683 01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:50,400 is like alright I'll draw the next room and figure out what 1684 01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,600 happens there. There you go. 1685 01:33:53,300 --> 01:33:56,200 Yeah I like that's where I was like oh this is good. 1686 01:33:56,700 --> 01:33:59,900 Yeah yeah. It's so good to I mean as we go 1687 01:33:59,900 --> 01:34:03,400 through and again adds that one sees how short this is, it's so 1688 01:34:03,700 --> 01:34:08,600 good. Like so finish out this page, 1689 01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:12,000 I'll roll one D3 for each skill. So you get three skills, Vigor, 1690 01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,500 mind and power. When you look at the character 1691 01:34:14,500 --> 01:34:16,400 sheet in the back, which will flip to at the end, but you can 1692 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,500 see here again just like the rest of it. 1693 01:34:18,500 --> 01:34:20,700 It's not it's not a whole lot. Figure mind power. 1694 01:34:21,100 --> 01:34:23,900 We have some renowned disdain name, you know, couple of things 1695 01:34:23,900 --> 01:34:26,300 and that's about it. So this is the core of the 1696 01:34:26,300 --> 01:34:27,400 thing. You roll one die. 1697 01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:30,500 D3 for each skill. So that automatically tells you 1698 01:34:30,500 --> 01:34:34,100 right off the bat. You're not a God, you're not 1699 01:34:34,100 --> 01:34:39,400 like your whoo. Yeah, and that is definitely by 1700 01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:43,800 Design. Like now it's swords and 1701 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,700 sorcery. Lower fantasy, wash agus laufen. 1702 01:34:47,900 --> 01:34:50,600 It's the high fantasy, or it's whatever you want it to be 1703 01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,900 technically, really? Yeah, as we will see with wired, 1704 01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:58,500 Yeah, so you get Vigor, mind and power, and then you have 1705 01:34:58,500 --> 01:35:01,300 Vitality. So Your vitality is equal to 1 1706 01:35:01,300 --> 01:35:07,900 D6, + your Vigor. So max nine, minimum to correct. 1707 01:35:08,300 --> 01:35:10,800 Yeah. Encumbrance you can carry up to 1708 01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:17,400 2 D 3 + power and spell slots. You can equip spells with slots 1709 01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:23,400 up to 1, D 3 plus mind. So, again, Max 6, you know, 1710 01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,900 minimum, To and that's, that's a lot of it. 1711 01:35:26,900 --> 01:35:31,300 So, coming into the next one, we're talking about weapons. 1712 01:35:31,300 --> 01:35:33,300 So one thing you'll get, I'm especially because this is ultra 1713 01:35:33,300 --> 01:35:37,200 light, there is outside of the layout and the pictures and 1714 01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:38,800 stuff like that and that little blurb, right? 1715 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:42,400 At the beginning that like what? Two lines, there's no implied 1716 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,300 setting. There's not really a whole bunch 1717 01:35:44,300 --> 01:35:47,100 else like saying it's sword and sorcery, giving you a little 1718 01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:49,900 blurb and giving you the pictures and the layout is 1719 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:54,500 really all you need to do. And even the name of itself, You 1720 01:35:54,500 --> 01:35:56,100 don't need a whole lot of implied setting for something 1721 01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:58,800 like this. So really, you got that 1722 01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:03,900 beginning stats, you got weapons magic armor, some combat rules, 1723 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,500 some Renown and and stuff on the last page and that's all game. 1724 01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:11,400 So we're going to go over all of those individually but it's just 1725 01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:12,700 not very much just to show you that. 1726 01:36:12,700 --> 01:36:16,300 It's what it's too. If you put all of the water in 1727 01:36:16,308 --> 01:36:19,200 the other, it's about 22 Pages, really too. 1728 01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:21,600 And maybe a quarter of a small, I believe a five. 1729 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:27,400 This is we've just that That Kirby stretched a pamphlet into 1730 01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,600 an entire Zine. Yeah we I mean this could easily 1731 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,000 be a pamphlet. Absolutely. 1732 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:35,700 Yeah. I think the way out of it is 1733 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,300 perfect for what it is. Oh absolutely. 1734 01:36:38,300 --> 01:36:40,500 Absolutely. I think the way that it goes 1735 01:36:40,500 --> 01:36:43,000 even to getting to the pages that it is I don't think I've 1736 01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:47,500 ever seen a smaller shorter Zine than this though since it 1737 01:36:47,500 --> 01:36:51,700 literally is just I mean I guess two pages, it's two pieces of 1738 01:36:51,708 --> 01:36:56,600 paper stabilize. Forget everything. 1739 01:36:56,600 --> 01:37:00,600 You know about bread robots might be up there but don't 1740 01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,300 quote me on that. I guess I do have some that are 1741 01:37:03,300 --> 01:37:04,800 literally is one page folded over. 1742 01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:09,800 Yeah, I guess it's technically a Zine to be wrong about bread 1743 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:17,800 robots to just looking at the Shelf next to me so weapons. 1744 01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,100 You get to choose whatever weapon you like and assign the 1745 01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:22,600 size to it rolled damage based on the weapon. 1746 01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,900 You have equipped if you roll maximum damage on the dial, Roll 1747 01:37:25,900 --> 01:37:28,400 once more with the next size dice. 1748 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:30,900 So, exploding dice for maximum dice. 1749 01:37:30,900 --> 01:37:32,600 I know you're a fan of exploding dice. 1750 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:34,600 Absolutely. Yeah. 1751 01:37:35,300 --> 01:37:39,200 So, four sizes, you got small medium, large and Ultra. 1752 01:37:40,700 --> 01:37:43,000 I'm actually going to zoom in on this page a little bit. 1753 01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:47,800 There we go. Let's just enable scrolling on 1754 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:56,600 this because I want to. So, actually, let's just Page by 1755 01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:57,900 Page. There we go. 1756 01:37:59,300 --> 01:38:01,200 Weapons choose another opening. Like I said that. 1757 01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,500 So small weapons are things like shims blackjacks and daggers 1758 01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:08,300 damage is only 1 d 2 and it takes up one slot or in foot. 1759 01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,800 Yeah, quite low medium is long story. 1760 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:18,300 Short, swords maces One D, 32 slots, large is a bastard sort 1761 01:38:18,300 --> 01:38:22,600 of War pick Warhammer, 186 and three slots and Ultra is Phi 1762 01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:28,400 hander and great hammer, 3, D 3 4 5 slots. 1763 01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:33,200 I like the use of three like twos and threes a lot in this 1764 01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:34,200 system. Hmm. 1765 01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:39,800 Yeah, it keeps things nice and simple and then, or rolling the 1766 01:38:40,100 --> 01:38:44,600 like if you like for lack of better words, critical hit, 1767 01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:50,100 you'd roll a D6 on top of that 3 D3 which that is a lot of 1768 01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:52,600 damage. So, and that's one thing on 1769 01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:54,200 here. So if you roll maximum on the 1770 01:38:54,208 --> 01:38:58,100 damaged, I you roll once more with an excise diet, so some 1771 01:38:58,100 --> 01:39:01,700 clarifications for large that need to happen there. 1772 01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:07,800 Gotcha because if you go, there isn't do you go d a like but 1773 01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,600 there's nothing listed higher than a D6. 1774 01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,500 I think so. I will have to see what happens 1775 01:39:13,500 --> 01:39:16,500 with the weird framework. But that is an example of the 1776 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,600 small little thing to iron out there. 1777 01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,100 Yeah, and that's exactly Kirby was talked about on the show. 1778 01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:24,400 Like there's a couple of a couple of things that need to be 1779 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:28,200 tweaked a little bit, but it's cool that if you go small, you 1780 01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,300 know, when you roll Max A Min. So if you roll a 2, that's the 1781 01:39:31,300 --> 01:39:33,400 thing with the 1D. Ooh, ooh, you got a 50% chance 1782 01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,700 of rolling maximum damage and then rolling another D3 on top 1783 01:39:36,700 --> 01:39:40,300 of that, which then again is a 30, you know, 33 is percent 1784 01:39:40,300 --> 01:39:43,200 chance of of. Does it, does it all stacked? 1785 01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:45,300 If you keep norling Max, and Max, and Max to the keep 1786 01:39:45,300 --> 01:39:47,500 exploding, or is it just the first time? 1787 01:39:47,500 --> 01:39:50,200 I believe it is just the first time. 1788 01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:53,300 However, I would Asylum. I have some ideas. 1789 01:39:53,300 --> 01:39:58,000 Now, I'm just keep. If you could go to three six, 1790 01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,100 eight inch go boom, boom, boom. Yeah violence. 1791 01:40:01,700 --> 01:40:05,000 There you go. But I like the way that works 1792 01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:07,200 out. And again, I really do like the 1793 01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,800 very small numbers associated with it. 1794 01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:14,500 That your statue ld3s the small, you know, an average weapon 1795 01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:16,500 medium. An average weapon is still only 1796 01:40:16,500 --> 01:40:21,800 a D3. The whole game is very the 1797 01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:23,900 world. When you have that those few 1798 01:40:23,900 --> 01:40:25,700 points at working with the world with feels a lot. 1799 01:40:25,700 --> 01:40:27,800 Bigger. Absolutely. 1800 01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:34,000 And the use of slots as well. Like It's a very intuitive thing 1801 01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:37,900 rather than having to calculate encumbrance numbers and 1802 01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,900 whatever, crunchy systems that we've played in the past. 1803 01:40:41,900 --> 01:40:48,300 We're like, can I walk and also like this is all playable with a 1804 01:40:48,300 --> 01:40:53,800 coin and some D6. Yeah, theoretically playable 1805 01:40:53,800 --> 01:41:01,200 with just a D6. Yeah, that's true. 3D 3 would be 1806 01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:03,400 a bit of a pain in the butt but it's real. 1807 01:41:04,100 --> 01:41:07,000 Yeah, just read all three times and even the D2L 1 through 3 is 1808 01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:12,000 1. Well 12 am 456 is to deventer 1809 01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,900 however, I believe that was something Kirby had in mind with 1810 01:41:15,900 --> 01:41:19,800 it was to just keep it a simple D6 system so that way you don't 1811 01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,100 have to bust out you know you're seven polyhedral shapes. 1812 01:41:23,500 --> 01:41:25,900 Yeah I love that. You know the game I'm working on 1813 01:41:25,900 --> 01:41:28,900 I specifically made things d3s and Said of DeForest because I 1814 01:41:28,907 --> 01:41:30,800 didn't want to have to have a second die in the game. 1815 01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:33,500 You know, I really enjoy when all you can do is, I mean, you 1816 01:41:33,500 --> 01:41:35,600 could crack open some Yahtzee and play the game if you really 1817 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,600 needed to. And who doesn't have a couple 1818 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:42,500 d6s laying around or, you know, always have your little chess X 1819 01:41:42,500 --> 01:41:45,200 minis. Yeah, I got a couple fidget 1820 01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:47,100 cubes even we could make that work. 1821 01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:54,000 So after weapons is magic, so create a spell based on the 1822 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:57,700 damage type, you'd like the type is up to you, but the greater. 1823 01:41:57,900 --> 01:41:59,300 Power. The more Slots of require is 1824 01:41:59,300 --> 01:42:03,100 doubling the slot cost for a spell increases, its damage 1825 01:42:03,100 --> 01:42:06,300 effect by that much. For example, he'll a tattoo 1826 01:42:06,300 --> 01:42:09,800 spell slot cost heels you for 2 d 2. 1827 01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,200 Instead of 1, d 2, I like it, it's clever. 1828 01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,300 It is one of the things that we're like, it's, it's very, 1829 01:42:16,300 --> 01:42:19,800 it's very open. It's very broad like magic and 1830 01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:25,100 Generals, like do whatever you want, really, but here is the 1831 01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:26,500 ideas. The little bit of the frame 1832 01:42:26,500 --> 01:42:30,700 with, you can do with it, so It specifically says he'll which is 1833 01:42:30,700 --> 01:42:36,200 1 d 2 and 1 1 d 2 damage. Which I guess is healing, you're 1834 01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:40,200 not being damaged by the heel I mean, but our Undead in your 1835 01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:44,100 game damaged by healing. That's truly, could be who I 1836 01:42:44,100 --> 01:42:47,800 mean in mind they would be and that's one slot. 1837 01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:51,700 But as we just said if you want to make it to D2 it's two slots. 1838 01:42:51,700 --> 01:42:55,100 If you do make it 3D to its three slot. 1839 01:42:55,100 --> 01:42:59,200 A I just keep thinking it's a little bit Vincennes and nature 1840 01:42:59,900 --> 01:43:04,700 and I will say the Arcane weird will continue with that. 1841 01:43:04,900 --> 01:43:09,100 Lil Bit but it's gonna deviate pretty like they'll start 1842 01:43:09,100 --> 01:43:11,900 reading and then it'll just be like, G something completely 1843 01:43:11,900 --> 01:43:16,100 new. He just saying interests that so 1844 01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:19,900 outside of he'll, there's one, two, three, four options here. 1845 01:43:19,900 --> 01:43:25,000 There's I assume miscellaneous use as a bitch. 1846 01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:27,300 Yeah. So the examples here are 1847 01:43:27,300 --> 01:43:30,800 levitate and move object very open to the GM in your 1848 01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:32,800 interpretation. I like this idea that like kind 1849 01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:36,000 of like innately and if you read this And for more experienced 1850 01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,200 players as well like yeah I think of a brand new player 1851 01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,300 picked this up a little bit. I think some of the magic stuff 1852 01:43:40,300 --> 01:43:42,200 might be a part that's like a little bit difficult to kind of 1853 01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:43,100 grasp. It's kind of that. 1854 01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:45,000 Like yeah. Yes. 1855 01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,500 Like paralysis of choice. Wait, I can do anything. 1856 01:43:47,500 --> 01:43:48,600 I don't fucking know what I can do. 1857 01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:52,700 You know what I mean? Yeah, the paralysis Choice does 1858 01:43:52,700 --> 01:43:55,200 make it a bit difficult like when you're looking at like 1859 01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:59,200 miscellaneous use your like what do I do? 1860 01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,500 All right. Yeah but I do, I think the 1861 01:44:02,500 --> 01:44:05,700 examples are great, levitating move object or like Okay, like 1862 01:44:05,700 --> 01:44:07,800 it's utility. It is nondamaging, it's just 1863 01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:08,700 stuff. You know what I mean? 1864 01:44:08,700 --> 01:44:11,700 Like like lighting, like lighting a light or something or 1865 01:44:11,700 --> 01:44:14,300 like, or having a wind, I get it, you know, they're coming 1866 01:44:14,300 --> 01:44:19,500 from like let's say, D and D to the more in the US are 1867 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:23,100 microlight seen as this would be described. 1868 01:44:23,100 --> 01:44:28,400 As you could say, move object would be like Mage and and 1869 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:32,000 Roman, you know, that's why does no damage but it does take up a 1870 01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,300 slot. Yeah, I mean even these like 1871 01:44:34,300 --> 01:44:36,000 invisibility Bility. You know what I mean? 1872 01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:37,300 Is something that I would have all miscellaneous. 1873 01:44:37,300 --> 01:44:39,900 You she not damaging anything in totality for than anything. 1874 01:44:39,900 --> 01:44:43,000 So make yourself invisible, one slot, make two people, invisible 1875 01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:45,100 two slots. It's a way that you can 1876 01:44:45,100 --> 01:44:48,300 interpret it and it is base one slot. 1877 01:44:48,900 --> 01:44:50,600 Then there's small medium and large uses. 1878 01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:52,500 So for small, the examples are fire. 1879 01:44:52,500 --> 01:44:57,100 Spray Frost and rock throw relatively small versions of 1880 01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:58,800 things. Fire spray. 1881 01:45:00,300 --> 01:45:04,300 You can again it needs a little context in role-playing games 1882 01:45:04,300 --> 01:45:09,400 but you know, That spray Bolton ball are all very raw, very 1883 01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:11,000 different things. And those are the three things 1884 01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,200 that are listed as the small medium and large options with 1885 01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,400 fire here in a little bit of RPG context. 1886 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,500 It completely makes sense. I get it. 1887 01:45:18,500 --> 01:45:20,900 Like here's a little fire from my hand. 1888 01:45:20,900 --> 01:45:24,300 Here's of ball of fire. Here's like a baseball of I'm 1889 01:45:24,300 --> 01:45:27,900 throwing and here's like a fucking run giant ball of fire 1890 01:45:27,900 --> 01:45:33,100 that I'm throwing yes or perhaps maybe you could since these are 1891 01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:38,100 a little bit you know there. Intentionally left to the player 1892 01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:43,200 to decide so perhaps maybe you like sprinkle some sprinkle 1893 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:47,800 spray out some fire and it does. Yeah. 1894 01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:54,200 Just Salt Bay it out and it does maybe 1 D2 but in a like conal 1895 01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:58,900 effect, right? Yeah, I mean again magic. 1896 01:45:58,900 --> 01:46:06,000 I personally like when magic is very broad like this But for 1897 01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:10,400 newer players, I know when I was a newer player magic like this 1898 01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,900 broke my brain, you know? I mean, when I was just like all 1899 01:46:12,900 --> 01:46:14,300 manly why I like it. Why? 1900 01:46:14,300 --> 01:46:16,600 I don't like I can do anything. I can't. 1901 01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:21,200 So um yeah, so Frost and rock their a 1 D6 damage for that for 1902 01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:23,700 two slots Medium. As we said, fire spread of fire 1903 01:46:23,700 --> 01:46:30,000 bolt or lightning bolts 3D 3 damage and it takes three slots 1904 01:46:30,300 --> 01:46:34,800 and then large Fireball and Earth shatter to D6. 1905 01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:37,900 For four slots. So I do think that the examples 1906 01:46:37,900 --> 01:46:43,300 listed it makes it does make sense, I think it would just 1907 01:46:43,300 --> 01:46:49,700 take some getting used to And I think for maybe clarification 1908 01:46:49,700 --> 01:46:56,400 keeping with the like the theme like Firebolt like shifting two 1909 01:46:56,400 --> 01:47:01,700 lightning bolts like maybe having like Kroll Boulder or 1910 01:47:01,700 --> 01:47:05,300 something and then go under shatter that might help with the 1911 01:47:05,300 --> 01:47:08,800 clarification and scale. Yeah, I mean, lightning bolt. 1912 01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:11,600 Even if you did like you know like a shocking grasp lightning 1913 01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,200 bolt and then like call lightning or something like that 1914 01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,700 but I know it would Completely agree. 1915 01:47:19,500 --> 01:47:23,100 So it's interesting that it is three examples and then just two 1916 01:47:23,100 --> 01:47:25,700 and two examples. I'm sure it had to do with just 1917 01:47:25,700 --> 01:47:28,700 the the amount of space that was available to. 1918 01:47:28,700 --> 01:47:30,300 Yeah. Yeah. 1919 01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:35,300 So that's magic and then we get to armor. 1920 01:47:35,900 --> 01:47:39,200 So armor, protects you from hits in combat but the heavy armor 1921 01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:44,700 the easier you are to hit reasonable something to really 1922 01:47:44,700 --> 01:47:47,800 address quickly. If the magic is those examples 1923 01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:52,200 are just examples. So if ya like if you want to 1924 01:47:53,200 --> 01:48:00,200 let's say have a medium spell that is a magically enhanced 1925 01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:05,700 fist like punch that like extends out or something. 1926 01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:10,500 Yeah like to end he when you're firing if you want to magically 1927 01:48:10,500 --> 01:48:16,400 fist something says then it you can in weird. 1928 01:48:17,300 --> 01:48:21,400 I mean Bloodhound Gang Starr. The best fist can be a verb. 1929 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:29,100 You said it not, i eh. So, um, I do like you said, I 1930 01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:34,600 like the the list of examples, I think even layout wise, I think. 1931 01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:38,200 Even having example listed in the weapons section above here, 1932 01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:40,600 would have been a good idea to kind of continue the trend and 1933 01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:42,400 say that there's more than just these weapons. 1934 01:48:43,300 --> 01:48:49,000 Yes, yeah, but true, I'm going to note that down. 1935 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,900 Yeah, so armor armor, protects you from hits in combat but the 1936 01:48:54,900 --> 01:48:59,200 heavier the armor of the easier you are to hit add modifier to 1937 01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:02,500 combat roles protection reduces damage. 1938 01:49:02,500 --> 01:49:08,500 You take. So we know that there is a 1939 01:49:08,500 --> 01:49:12,200 modifier specifically for armor. This isn't your modifier based 1940 01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,700 on like your stats or anything like that. 1941 01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:19,000 I'm so linen. Cloak is a zero leather. 1942 01:49:19,100 --> 01:49:20,600 So there's lemon cloak leather tunic. 1943 01:49:20,700 --> 01:49:26,300 Chain mail, huh? Burke plate breastplate which I 1944 01:49:26,308 --> 01:49:29,900 think breastplate and then you'll play should be there on 1945 01:49:30,100 --> 01:49:31,800 individual things. Yeah. 1946 01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:39,200 But and then small Shield so you add modifier to combat roles and 1947 01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:41,400 then protection reduces damage you take. 1948 01:49:41,700 --> 01:49:47,100 So why do you add modifier to combat roles? 1949 01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:51,400 We're going to get to combat. I'm trying to remember off the 1950 01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:56,200 top of my head because I know that we tweaked around with the 1951 01:49:56,200 --> 01:50:00,800 armor because there was a one-point leather tunic was the 1952 01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:02,600 best option. Hmm. 1953 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:08,400 So much I have to thank scent. Ew. 1954 01:50:10,900 --> 01:50:14,000 Asking me questions about something from five months ago. 1955 01:50:15,700 --> 01:50:19,500 So linen cloak actually has zero modifier zero protection takes 1956 01:50:19,500 --> 01:50:23,000 up one slot, but there's a bonus to it which gives you plus one 1957 01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,100 to spell damage. So basically if you're on 1958 01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:29,600 Armored really you can take up a slot with your cloak and 1959 01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:32,800 increase your spell damage. This kind of, you know, really 1960 01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:36,200 feeds into like glass Cannon kind of wizardy wizardy. 1961 01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:42,000 Build leather tunic is A1 model. Fire A1 protection. 1962 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,600 It takes two slots. It also has a bonus which is 1963 01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:48,700 plus one small weapon damage. So this really feeds into like, 1964 01:50:48,700 --> 01:50:51,800 you know, your thief or Rogue character with a dagger or a 1965 01:50:51,808 --> 01:50:55,500 shiv or something like that. I like the way that even in the 1966 01:50:55,500 --> 01:50:59,200 Simplicity of the game that there is things like that, that 1967 01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:03,200 can really help feed into and reinforce the rules within the 1968 01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:08,200 rules that you're doing. Like it definitely makes more 1969 01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:12,900 sense like okay. So, I am using, you know, a 1970 01:51:12,900 --> 01:51:15,400 shiv. So this leather tunics probably 1971 01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:20,300 a better option for me. But once again, armor is always 1972 01:51:20,300 --> 01:51:22,700 an example as well. So you can create your own 1973 01:51:22,700 --> 01:51:25,000 little things. Like if you wanted to be a Spell 1974 01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:29,700 blade of some sort. So you could shift some things 1975 01:51:29,700 --> 01:51:34,900 around, make a breast plate that has plus one spell damage, but 1976 01:51:34,900 --> 01:51:40,500 perhaps lower the protection, With the array of numbers. 1977 01:51:40,500 --> 01:51:45,400 It's because they're so small. It makes it so easy to modify 1978 01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:49,500 and like, with traditional games or more crunchy games. 1979 01:51:49,500 --> 01:51:52,000 That's where things get difficult with balancing. 1980 01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:54,900 Right. And that's why I like you said 1981 01:51:54,900 --> 01:51:57,500 multiple times, like, as a framework and as an engine and 1982 01:51:57,500 --> 01:52:02,800 things like that, I like that it is enough to play the game, but 1983 01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:06,700 also not too much that you feel bound. 1984 01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:11,800 And by, what's written. And I just looking over here for 1985 01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:15,500 a random Adventure, like, I could grab Fever Swamp by Luke 1986 01:52:15,500 --> 01:52:22,100 earring and play this in it, and it's converting, the creatures 1987 01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:27,000 over not be difficult at all. Once we get the combat section, 1988 01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:35,300 I'll be explaining a bit easier. Trying to, like, remember why 1989 01:52:35,300 --> 01:52:38,700 leather tunic was so busted? I think it also had the spell 1990 01:52:38,700 --> 01:52:41,800 damage increase as well. Ah, well then yeah, you can 1991 01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:44,600 increase smell weapon damage, increase spell damage, and it 1992 01:52:44,608 --> 01:52:47,600 only takes up two slots. I mean, that's a lot. 1993 01:52:49,300 --> 01:52:52,600 Yeah, you also got ten my homework, which is the to 1994 01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,900 modifier to protection, three slots breastplate which is three 1995 01:52:56,900 --> 01:53:00,600 modifier, three protection for slots and then a small Shield, 1996 01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:05,400 which is a one modifier to protection two slots, so leather 1997 01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:13,700 tunic and a small Shield will give you three protection for 1998 01:53:13,700 --> 01:53:18,100 three slots, which compared to chainmail hauberk was to 1999 01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:19,400 protection. Reese lot. 2000 01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:21,900 So, it's really how you want to play the game a little bit, 2001 01:53:21,900 --> 01:53:25,000 which is, which is a nice still kind of balance within it, which 2002 01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,800 is, which is really, which is, you know, why we're talking 2003 01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:29,700 about it. Because it's a cool game, you 2004 01:53:29,700 --> 01:53:33,700 can like shift, like, let's say you wanted to play Frontline 2005 01:53:33,700 --> 01:53:38,600 e-tank, in your group of three or more. 2006 01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:43,400 I do think the one, two, three players is a little bit on the 2007 01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:47,300 smaller side because you can do a group of five with this no 2008 01:53:47,300 --> 01:53:53,000 problem. Yeah, like very good. 2009 01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:58,200 Hmm Cooper. I was gonna say, like also, you 2010 01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,500 couldn't, you know, increase things up to make like a kite 2011 01:54:01,500 --> 01:54:03,500 Shield or heater Shield or something like that. 2012 01:54:03,500 --> 01:54:09,000 So like there's a lot of fine tuning and I hope that in the 2013 01:54:09,100 --> 01:54:11,900 framework, that that is expressed a little bit more. 2014 01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:20,000 I'm excited to see what changes, what stays the same and what 2015 01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,600 just gets tweaked a little bit when we get to when we get the 2016 01:54:22,608 --> 01:54:26,500 framework which might be a November her curvy so we'll save 2017 01:54:26,500 --> 01:54:28,700 it. So getting to that comment 2018 01:54:28,700 --> 01:54:31,700 section like you were just talking about um combat. 2019 01:54:31,700 --> 01:54:36,000 You always go first and enemies only damage you if they win a 2020 01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:41,500 combat role if you tie the role the enemy wins I like that tie 2021 01:54:41,500 --> 01:54:43,700 goes to not the runner. Yep. 2022 01:54:43,900 --> 01:54:48,400 Um which is just kind of still adds into that like it's hard, 2023 01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:51,600 you know, kind of aspect to it like you don't get to you don't 2024 01:54:51,700 --> 01:54:54,800 you can assume that you don't win you know in situations 2025 01:54:56,300 --> 01:55:00,000 attacking with a weapon, roll a D6. 2026 01:55:01,300 --> 01:55:06,700 Is that - Power Plus armor. E6. 2027 01:55:06,700 --> 01:55:09,100 B Bar ever. I believe. 2028 01:55:09,900 --> 01:55:17,200 Hang on. I've confused myself and I've 2029 01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:19,400 played this multiple times. Yeah. 2030 01:55:23,700 --> 01:55:26,400 Now the lower wall roll wins the attack, right? 2031 01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:29,400 Yeah. So D6 - power. 2032 01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:33,900 So actually, that would be a seller clarification of D6 - 2033 01:55:33,900 --> 01:55:38,000 power plus your armor modifier which makes you easier the 2034 01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:39,100 overall. Yeah. 2035 01:55:40,700 --> 01:55:41,300 Right. Yeah. 2036 01:55:41,300 --> 01:55:45,400 So rolling low is good and the higher the stat you have, the 2037 01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:50,100 more you will subtract from your D6, but the more armor you're 2038 01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:52,300 wearing. So I assume you're adding the 2039 01:55:52,300 --> 01:55:54,100 armor. A fire. 2040 01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:57,200 Correct. Solo comes in yeah. 2041 01:55:57,900 --> 01:56:02,800 Yeah, some parentheses, perhaps, or spacing some things out, some 2042 01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:05,100 layout changes, but yes, it is correct. 2043 01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:08,700 Is these six - your stat for what you're trying to do. 2044 01:56:09,300 --> 01:56:12,500 Be it wants the owner. And so let's try to roll out 2045 01:56:12,500 --> 01:56:14,900 under. So you roll a D6, use and then 2046 01:56:14,900 --> 01:56:18,700 having a higher power score with means you subtract more of it. 2047 01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:25,500 But then the more the The heavier your armor is the more 2048 01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:28,100 protection you get from it, the higher the modifier is which you 2049 01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:31,800 have to add back to your role and that's why the bigger the 2050 01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:34,400 armor. You have the more likely you are 2051 01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:37,500 to get hit because you're trying to roll under your clunky. 2052 01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:42,000 Yeah. So it's like a subtraction and 2053 01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,600 then addition still trying to get to the lowest number 2054 01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:49,500 possible and if you roll that less than the enemies hit die, 2055 01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:52,100 you roll it. You just you hit and you. 2056 01:56:52,300 --> 01:56:57,600 Damage. And that's all thing, described 2057 01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:02,900 it as the lightest rules crunchiest game that they could 2058 01:57:02,900 --> 01:57:06,200 make. Yeah, it sounds way more crunchy 2059 01:57:06,200 --> 01:57:08,300 than it is. Like when you're asking me I'm 2060 01:57:08,300 --> 01:57:15,700 like this I I did a whole solo play through and my notebook and 2061 01:57:15,700 --> 01:57:19,500 I'm like, remember it being that big of a deal and then it took a 2062 01:57:19,508 --> 01:57:26,100 second to like, click back in And the established hit die. 2063 01:57:26,100 --> 01:57:34,900 For the creatures are really nice being able to like yeah. 2064 01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:39,000 Yeah yeah. It's interesting. 2065 01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,700 Like you said it's it sounds crunchier than it is and it 2066 01:57:41,700 --> 01:57:43,600 takes you one second to go oh I get it. 2067 01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:49,300 Okay chanting a spell, similar role D6 - mind plus armor 2068 01:57:49,300 --> 01:57:54,100 against enemy HD, your hit done. If you roll over them into me, 2069 01:57:54,100 --> 01:57:58,400 you cast the spell immediately, if you lose the role, you can 2070 01:57:58,700 --> 01:58:03,000 you cast first on the next turn, but take a hit. 2071 01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:05,400 And then you can roll damage. Yep. 2072 01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,700 I like that. Magic is Magic. 2073 01:58:08,900 --> 01:58:11,300 You know, it still feels like the educator when the but this 2074 01:58:11,300 --> 01:58:14,600 way that you do it and it does make sense when you're 2075 01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:18,500 channeling something to Cass. Like there will be moments where 2076 01:58:19,300 --> 01:58:22,800 in this case we're using RNG. But you're not always going to 2077 01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:27,800 be able to defend or Dodge or they'd you're gonna have to just 2078 01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:33,100 take that stabbed or what have you and then you'll be able to 2079 01:58:33,100 --> 01:58:40,500 get your Her shatter off. Death. 2080 01:58:40,500 --> 01:58:44,400 If you write zero Vitality, you are unconscious a mysterious 2081 01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:48,700 entity will collect you and you will be revived in a town. 2082 01:58:49,200 --> 01:58:52,700 If you go below, zero Vitality, you die immediately, there is no 2083 01:58:52,700 --> 01:58:56,800 recovery. So you got hit exactly zero to 2084 01:58:56,800 --> 01:59:01,200 basically get responding your last save point, but if you ever 2085 01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:06,100 go below your, you just had, there's no saves do nothing. 2086 01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:08,000 I like that. There's no saves or anything 2087 01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:10,100 really. Like your save is try to get 2088 01:59:10,100 --> 01:59:12,700 exactly zero. That's about the best you can 2089 01:59:12,700 --> 01:59:14,300 get. Yeah. 2090 01:59:14,300 --> 01:59:19,900 And that one's a little bit of an interesting design choice to 2091 01:59:19,900 --> 01:59:26,000 me because with the various protections and stuff like now, 2092 01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:29,000 it's like, well, armor does seem a little bit more valuable if 2093 01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:34,800 that can chip off. Let's say or a damage on a 2094 01:59:34,808 --> 01:59:41,800 possible, 1 D6 from a great boss Yeah, so any like you said it 2095 01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:46,100 really comes down to how you want to play the game if you're 2096 01:59:46,100 --> 01:59:49,400 trying to do a bunch of damage. If you're trying to survive like 2097 01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:51,900 how it works, you know, what do you want to be doing it to be 2098 01:59:51,900 --> 01:59:54,000 attrition all the time? Or do you want it to be? 2099 01:59:54,300 --> 01:59:57,600 You know, quick potentially in and out deadly and I can just 2100 01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:01,500 imagine like someone in a dungeon just like hitting zero, 2101 02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:04,900 getting deposit in town of like Chowder Run back in hitting zero 2102 02:00:04,900 --> 02:00:07,000 or getting positive town and kind of run back. 2103 02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:09,200 And I think there's some comedy that could really come into 2104 02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:11,900 that. As well as you like keep almost 2105 02:00:11,900 --> 02:00:15,100 dying but getting eroded by some strange entity it almost. 2106 02:00:15,100 --> 02:00:19,000 Feels like when you go off the track on Rainbow Road in Mario 2107 02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:23,000 Kart and that little thing I'm like, okay girl back on my truck 2108 02:00:23,300 --> 02:00:27,600 to back down. Now I may have been talking to 2109 02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:32,900 gave about this but this could be a complete fever dream. 2110 02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:40,200 So I will say it's a fever dream idea of having saved Based off 2111 02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:45,700 of like, your want to say armor mod or something like that, to 2112 02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:49,100 add a little bit more. Okay? 2113 02:00:49,300 --> 02:00:56,600 Second Wind think that was the conversation in might be seen in 2114 02:00:56,600 --> 02:01:00,100 the profane weird or some other supplement that kind of all 2115 02:01:00,100 --> 02:01:03,300 Blends together a certain point. But this point when you run only 2116 02:01:03,300 --> 02:01:09,300 for weird projects at the same time and kinda the idea there. 2117 02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:14,900 I would say more like very akin to cyberpunk stuff system, 2118 02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:17,700 you're familiar with that like you'd be mortally wounded at 2119 02:01:17,700 --> 02:01:22,700 zero. Given an increasingly like high 2120 02:01:22,700 --> 02:01:25,600 chance. But so I think that would be 2121 02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:29,800 something that would be the perfect thing as that adds, that 2122 02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:35,200 like more depth French. Which again I mean we're not 2123 02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:36,500 going to go with the profane weird today. 2124 02:01:36,500 --> 02:01:38,300 Yeah. Sorry about that name. 2125 02:01:38,300 --> 02:01:41,900 Drawing our general know I highly highly highly recommend 2126 02:01:41,900 --> 02:01:45,200 you to check out weird and then check out profane where it is. 2127 02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:51,900 It is a great addition to weird as we go through this enemies 2128 02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:54,300 enemies can be anything. You like, Goblin soldiers, 2129 02:01:54,300 --> 02:01:58,200 ghosts, or beast, flavor them. However, you like they list 2130 02:01:58,200 --> 02:02:00,500 three enemy types here. Normal Boston, great boss, 2131 02:02:01,700 --> 02:02:05,200 there's enemy. The damage hit those golden HP 2132 02:02:06,100 --> 02:02:10,300 gold just in context here. I assume is just what you get 2133 02:02:10,300 --> 02:02:15,400 for killing the creature. So if you look at a normal enemy 2134 02:02:15,900 --> 02:02:24,200 1 d 2 damage 1 D6, hit dice 1, d 2 gold and HP is anywhere 2135 02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:27,400 between 4 and 10. Pretty straightforward. 2136 02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:34,200 It's a bout of person you know which makes sense in the context 2137 02:02:34,200 --> 02:02:37,100 of the things that you're fighting a boss is one of the 2138 02:02:37,108 --> 02:02:40,900 three damage. One D3 hit dice, it's 2139 02:02:40,900 --> 02:02:43,300 interesting and I do like the math, how you're trying to roll 2140 02:02:43,300 --> 02:02:48,800 under so your hit die actually gets smaller as you go. 2141 02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:55,500 I believe? Yeah, yeah, right, right, right. 2142 02:02:59,500 --> 02:03:02,900 I mean if you're rolling D6 - Power Plus armor. 2143 02:03:03,900 --> 02:03:07,600 They you just have the worst they can do is to realistically. 2144 02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:11,800 So they're going to put on a lot of the image unless you're 2145 02:03:11,800 --> 02:03:16,600 rolling like really low on your D6 and, you know, AB good power 2146 02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:18,500 score and not a whole lot of armor. 2147 02:03:18,900 --> 02:03:22,600 And I think that's where the like idea of someone who's 2148 02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:27,600 taking the blows, while you have that glass Cannon Caster or the 2149 02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:35,700 sneaky shiv Rogue. And yes, a tide does lose that 2150 02:03:35,700 --> 02:03:38,500 really, I mean, I can imagine people being like, fuck this. 2151 02:03:38,700 --> 02:03:43,000 Plate and just being like, like I can't I can't hit this guy 2152 02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:48,700 Conan score literally because, you know a my armor is too, it's 2153 02:03:48,700 --> 02:03:50,500 like a plus 3 or Plus for whatever. 2154 02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:53,800 So like unless you're rolling, you know, if you have if you 2155 02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:59,400 have to power you know and you know you roll like a D6. 2156 02:03:59,700 --> 02:04:03,700 So you get to a four plus three armored, you're rolling like a 7 2157 02:04:03,900 --> 02:04:06,400 is impossible to hit the great boss, you know. 2158 02:04:07,900 --> 02:04:10,900 So it's It's, I can just picture people who just like being like, 2159 02:04:10,900 --> 02:04:13,600 all right, I guess slice the breast plate off clanks on the 2160 02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:15,700 ground. I'm now unarmored. 2161 02:04:15,700 --> 02:04:17,800 And I can finally try to hit this guy because I move a little 2162 02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:19,900 quicker. It's really cool seeing that can 2163 02:04:19,900 --> 02:04:23,100 happen. But it also allows for, you 2164 02:04:23,100 --> 02:04:27,400 know, you're like little wooden table rules to start coming into 2165 02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:33,200 play, like, perhaps, maybe your breastplate wearing Shield 2166 02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:37,700 wielding character might have like a taunt. 2167 02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:45,100 Actor song. Which again it's enough of a 2168 02:04:45,108 --> 02:04:49,900 system to play but there's you can stack on so much to this 2169 02:04:49,900 --> 02:04:54,900 because it's so Broad and I just I really enjoy it boss, we 2170 02:04:54,900 --> 02:04:58,200 talked about and then great bosses, final one is 186 damage. 2171 02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:03,800 I just had one need to hit dice 1 D6, gold, and 22:30 hit points 2172 02:05:03,800 --> 02:05:07,900 with the boss being 12 to 18. I mean it's it's clean. 2173 02:05:07,900 --> 02:05:09,200 As one thing that I really like about it. 2174 02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:11,900 Like it's clean and it's minimal and it's small. 2175 02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:17,100 Like I like again, the whole thing is a D6 system and its D6 2176 02:05:17,100 --> 02:05:21,700 unless you know, not like D6 and like to D6 + 3 D6, it's 2177 02:05:21,700 --> 02:05:26,500 literally like a lot of it revolves around E63 D2, not d66 2178 02:05:26,500 --> 02:05:29,800 386 like a couple small instances with damage and stuff. 2179 02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:30,700 You'll get a little bit different. 2180 02:05:30,700 --> 02:05:34,300 But for the most part, it's D6 and less, which is really fun. 2181 02:05:36,700 --> 02:05:41,800 If I recall the like General premise was that you could use 2182 02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:45,900 Ten room dungeon like easily stock it. 2183 02:05:47,100 --> 02:05:51,700 Yeah, like super easily, you know and um you can get like 2184 02:05:51,700 --> 02:05:54,500 online if I look at in room dungeon generator and like boom. 2185 02:05:54,500 --> 02:05:58,400 And you know what about or whatever? 2186 02:05:58,700 --> 02:06:02,800 Oh yeah, yeah yeah easily. And they even can stack it if 2187 02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:06,800 you want or even donjon, you can go on and click and it'll even 2188 02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:08,900 stock monsters and treasure and stuff for you. 2189 02:06:09,300 --> 02:06:14,100 So super easy to run with that treasure. 2190 02:06:14,100 --> 02:06:16,000 What would a dungeon be without treasure each time? 2191 02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:18,900 You kill an enemy. All for gold, spent in Gold to 2192 02:06:18,900 --> 02:06:22,400 increase the skill by 1. So, this puts a fun mechanic in 2193 02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:27,900 the game where gold is experience, which is why you do 2194 02:06:27,900 --> 02:06:31,800 what you're doing, you kill stuff, because you get XP for it 2195 02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:36,300 basically lets you buy skills, which is a very specific type of 2196 02:06:36,300 --> 02:06:41,500 game when you make gold XP, which very much make sense in 2197 02:06:41,500 --> 02:06:43,300 the context of what this game is. 2198 02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:47,800 Very much encourages. The Dells that Wives taking the 2199 02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:53,400 class. It's I don't know if it was 2200 02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:57,500 intentional or not but does Harkin very much to the basic 2201 02:06:57,500 --> 02:07:06,200 expert in style progression and I don't see unless I missed it a 2202 02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:08,900 cap. To that skills. 2203 02:07:10,700 --> 02:07:15,000 I don't believe there is but one team don't quote me on that. 2204 02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:19,600 But I mean so if you rolling a D6 and eventually you get like, 2205 02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:25,900 you know, like seven power you know. 2206 02:07:25,900 --> 02:07:30,100 It's a lot easier to hit that boss with yours are other base. 2207 02:07:30,100 --> 02:07:34,600 Yeah you start like a base like -1 you roll a 1 on the dice in 2208 02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:38,000 your at like - State, you know. And then you can rock that three 2209 02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:39,900 are more like you said and hit fucking everything. 2210 02:07:39,900 --> 02:07:43,900 So The odds of you living. That long aren't great. 2211 02:07:43,900 --> 02:07:46,600 Let's be honest. That's what retainers are for. 2212 02:07:47,100 --> 02:07:47,700 Yeah. Oh, yeah. 2213 02:07:47,900 --> 02:07:54,600 And the fact that your Vitality is linked to your Vigor, right? 2214 02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:59,200 So in the beginning, we talked about what is that? 2215 02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:02,400 Here it is. Vitality is equal to 1 D6 + 2216 02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:04,200 Vigor. I assume that means, if you 2217 02:08:04,200 --> 02:08:08,600 increase Vigor, you increase vitality Yep. 2218 02:08:09,100 --> 02:08:11,800 Yep. So important for the more points 2219 02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:15,400 you get in that the more you know, you can take and I like 2220 02:08:15,400 --> 02:08:19,000 point games, one of the things I like about three and four stat 2221 02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:25,800 systems is that and when you have like a D6 dice, instead of 2222 02:08:25,808 --> 02:08:29,300 like the 20s, everything is more meaningful. 2223 02:08:29,300 --> 02:08:32,800 Like the choice that you have to do very like, do I put one more 2224 02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:37,900 in power so I can hit more and my dial be lower or do I put One 2225 02:08:37,900 --> 02:08:39,600 more Vitality so I get more Health. 2226 02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:43,400 Like every time you get to that 10 gold it's gonna be at least 2227 02:08:43,400 --> 02:08:46,800 for me it would be a struggle to decide where am I putting this? 2228 02:08:46,900 --> 02:08:50,800 What's the next thing I really need more health or more damage 2229 02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:54,500 more health and we're damage or you could also think about it as 2230 02:08:54,500 --> 02:08:59,300 do you want to increase your power that allows you to carry 2231 02:08:59,300 --> 02:09:01,100 more? Riju. 2232 02:09:04,300 --> 02:09:06,300 Yep. Simon. 2233 02:09:06,300 --> 02:09:07,600 So that's another reason to go power. 2234 02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:09,100 You're like, okay, well I do more damage. 2235 02:09:09,100 --> 02:09:14,200 I can carry more stuff to. So so that means Powers also an 2236 02:09:14,200 --> 02:09:17,600 option for the Mage, clay archetype. 2237 02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:20,800 Well, yeah, because you need to carry more objects even if 2238 02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:25,100 you're not hitting with physical power, you're still carrying 2239 02:09:25,100 --> 02:09:28,000 stuff with you. So, right, because the will be 2240 02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:32,600 spells would take these slots that are provided by the 2241 02:09:32,600 --> 02:09:36,300 encumbrance if I recall, right? Yeah, so you Which is an 2242 02:09:36,300 --> 02:09:41,400 interesting thing though. That like that your power gives 2243 02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:44,200 you more spells. It's one of those ones where 2244 02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:46,800 it's like, okay it's a game that's how it works. 2245 02:09:47,300 --> 02:09:51,100 No mind is spell slots, I'm sorry you can equip spell slots 2246 02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:56,700 slots up to 1 D 3 + mind. Yeah, so mind really goes for 2247 02:09:56,700 --> 02:09:58,200 the spell one. But you're right the with the 2248 02:09:58,200 --> 02:10:02,400 encumbrance is the ability to like carry more stuff so that's 2249 02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:04,700 kind of one. That's like a double like a good 2250 02:10:04,700 --> 02:10:07,700 job, but no. Down because I feel like, you 2251 02:10:07,700 --> 02:10:11,200 know, maybe it should be spread across gotta carry. 2252 02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:14,600 All those components with you all components? 2253 02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:17,800 Yeah, it's true. But you gotta have the Mind 2254 02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:19,000 space. You know what I mean? 2255 02:10:19,500 --> 02:10:27,200 Hmm, it's true. So staying and renowned weird 2256 02:10:28,300 --> 02:10:31,100 the name of the game also a rule each time you increase the 2257 02:10:31,100 --> 02:10:36,000 skill. Roll 1 D6, if you roll a One or 2258 02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:39,200 two you have increased your renowned as a heroic Adventurer 2259 02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:42,900 and the kingdom surrounding you, more local towns will call upon 2260 02:10:42,900 --> 02:10:46,300 you for your Aid to clear out monster nests and return. 2261 02:10:46,300 --> 02:10:52,100 The Lost, Treasure to the magistrates implied setting In 2262 02:10:52,100 --> 02:10:55,100 this rule, we get implied setting, we get okay, local 2263 02:10:55,100 --> 02:10:59,800 towns kingdoms, monsters magistrates clearing out, 2264 02:10:59,800 --> 02:11:02,300 monster nests. All within this rule. 2265 02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:06,300 You have built the whole world for know, at least enough that 2266 02:11:06,300 --> 02:11:08,900 you that you need to do it and I love that realistically. 2267 02:11:08,900 --> 02:11:12,500 I think the amount of setting in the entire thing is maybe four 2268 02:11:12,500 --> 02:11:16,000 or five lines, but you 1000% know exactly what the game is 2269 02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:22,300 saying. Yeah, as we See with weird or 2270 02:11:22,300 --> 02:11:28,200 wired, rather you can just shift some nouns around and now you 2271 02:11:28,200 --> 02:11:33,400 have a crew of people on Mars killing vampires. 2272 02:11:38,200 --> 02:11:42,300 So, so that's 12 to you get renowned. 2273 02:11:42,500 --> 02:11:44,700 So, if you roll a five to six, your actions have caught, the 2274 02:11:44,700 --> 02:11:47,800 eye of the locals and they don't appear to appreciate them, you 2275 02:11:47,800 --> 02:11:51,300 become an outlier, and the opinion of you is one of Stain 2276 02:11:51,300 --> 02:11:53,100 local Bandits and other unsavory groups. 2277 02:11:53,100 --> 02:11:57,000 Begin to take notice and offer you work which is interesting. 2278 02:11:57,000 --> 02:12:00,100 It's like bad for the locals but you could also be Bandits which 2279 02:12:00,100 --> 02:12:04,500 is cool and I still like that. It's all lower role is better. 2280 02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:07,800 So I like the consistency throughout the system and on a 2281 02:12:07,808 --> 02:12:09,800 3-2 for nothing happens. No one notices. 2282 02:12:09,800 --> 02:12:14,000 You, you're nothing. Sorry happens. 2283 02:12:14,500 --> 02:12:22,500 Yeah, it's also interesting that Is one thing I have a question, 2284 02:12:22,500 --> 02:12:26,100 so is it 10 gold as a party? Everyone gets a scale or is it 2285 02:12:26,100 --> 02:12:29,200 10 gold per skill? That is believes. 2286 02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:32,600 It is Ten Gold, her skill for individual. 2287 02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:34,600 So you have to get. So for everyone to get one more 2288 02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:38,700 point, you got to get 30 gold. Full group. 2289 02:12:38,700 --> 02:12:43,700 Yes, interesting interesting. So keep track of how much 2290 02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:47,000 renowned in disdain you have and tailor your adventures based on 2291 02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:50,000 which is the higher. When one reaches rank 5 you are 2292 02:12:50,000 --> 02:12:53,300 famous or inFAMOUS, you may choose to retire your career or 2293 02:12:53,300 --> 02:12:56,400 follow the path of that one attribute exclusively for the 2294 02:12:56,400 --> 02:13:01,700 rest of your days. I like games that have an end. 2295 02:13:03,400 --> 02:13:06,200 I do especially games like this like one of the games we played 2296 02:13:06,200 --> 02:13:08,700 on screen before his Basic from a source of Victory. 2297 02:13:09,100 --> 02:13:12,500 And there's only nine levels. Once you reach ninth level 2298 02:13:12,500 --> 02:13:17,400 literally is, if you're like a cleric, you build a temple 2299 02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:21,000 outside of, you know, the dungeon or whatever and other 2300 02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:24,100 clerics can come to you for like rest and teaching and stuff like 2301 02:13:24,100 --> 02:13:25,500 that. But you're done you're 2302 02:13:25,500 --> 02:13:28,500 adventurous over your old. You took an arrow to the knee, 2303 02:13:28,700 --> 02:13:31,600 you're done. So I really enjoy that because 2304 02:13:31,600 --> 02:13:35,200 no one ever gets to 20th fucking level come on, you know, like, 2305 02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:39,700 hey now I think the highest we ran a campaign for two and a 2306 02:13:39,708 --> 02:13:44,200 half years. We got to I think level 17 and I 2307 02:13:44,208 --> 02:13:46,500 had plans to 20 but then people moved and stuff. 2308 02:13:46,500 --> 02:13:51,200 But I mean like, he tends to get in the way beforehand on the 2309 02:13:51,200 --> 02:13:57,500 bell curve. Yeah, I think like, for B and D, 2310 02:13:57,500 --> 02:14:01,600 the average levels for 5th edition are like 11 through or 2311 02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:06,700 like 10 through 15 X or yeah, at best, I think most, if I 2312 02:14:06,708 --> 02:14:09,500 remember correctly, I think it's 10 and 11, I think is, when most 2313 02:14:09,500 --> 02:14:13,300 parties and bread, which is one of the reasons why D&D puts out 2314 02:14:13,300 --> 02:14:18,000 like 1 to 10 books, a lot and then like, 10 plus books, a lot 2315 02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:22,700 are like, emacs 1215, you know, because they know people aren't 2316 02:14:22,700 --> 02:14:25,600 gonna like you just said, a lot of times life gets In the way 2317 02:14:25,600 --> 02:14:31,000 it's hard, you know. Yeah, and it doesn't have like 2318 02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:39,900 the Incentivisation of 3.5 or Pathfinder where you would have 2319 02:14:39,900 --> 02:14:44,400 to grind out those tons of experience, like through a with 2320 02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:49,300 Kings maker, or other Adventure paths, that you can compensate 2321 02:14:49,300 --> 02:14:53,400 for that. Anyway, so that's kinda like 2322 02:14:53,700 --> 02:14:57,800 yeah II. Love that rank 5 famous. 2323 02:14:57,800 --> 02:14:59,100 Infamous your tire. You done. 2324 02:14:59,100 --> 02:15:00,600 That's exactly how I have happened. 2325 02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:04,300 And now, you're just, you're a legend in the areas. 2326 02:15:04,300 --> 02:15:08,300 And when you start a new, a new player, they're aware of the 2327 02:15:08,300 --> 02:15:09,900 legend of your previous character. 2328 02:15:09,900 --> 02:15:13,700 I really enjoy that and that builds on to the world, and yes, 2329 02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:16,800 that rank. You can choose to, you know, 2330 02:15:17,100 --> 02:15:22,100 perhaps Lou Ferrigno Hulk walk away during Eric music credits 2331 02:15:22,100 --> 02:15:30,400 rule, or you can continue being a Robin Hood or the night that 2332 02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:33,800 goes out. Valiantly clearing monster nests 2333 02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:39,800 and protecting the town. Its Is elegantly, simple. 2334 02:15:40,700 --> 02:15:42,900 It it is. I that's all game is elegantly, 2335 02:15:42,900 --> 02:15:44,300 simple. I really enjoy it. 2336 02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:47,300 This is the character sheet. It says word of the top. 2337 02:15:47,300 --> 02:15:50,600 You got five spots for a noun 54, to stain your name. 2338 02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:54,100 Your vitality encumbrance big boxes to put your Vigor, mind 2339 02:15:54,100 --> 02:15:56,300 and power. You got two lines, right? 2340 02:15:56,300 --> 02:15:59,200 Your weapons, your armor, two lines, each strut, your weapons 2341 02:15:59,200 --> 02:16:01,900 are mature, spelled list your gold aligned to your notes and 2342 02:16:01,900 --> 02:16:03,300 that's it. And that's all you fucking need, 2343 02:16:03,300 --> 02:16:05,600 realistically. I mean if you actually get a 2344 02:16:05,600 --> 02:16:09,400 carrier character up to like 15, For just turn the sheet over as 2345 02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:11,700 all right, on the back and that's about as much as you 2346 02:16:11,700 --> 02:16:13,400 need. And that's, that's weird. 2347 02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:14,800 That's all thing. That's all system. 2348 02:16:14,800 --> 02:16:18,200 That is the framework. That is the pre framework that 2349 02:16:18,200 --> 02:16:23,100 we will see a little bit later from Caribbean, disaster 2350 02:16:23,100 --> 02:16:27,400 tourism. And again, there's already stuff 2351 02:16:27,400 --> 02:16:29,800 out there. Kerry talked about hired 2352 02:16:30,100 --> 02:16:33,000 whacked, you know, a bunch of hacks already coming out for it. 2353 02:16:33,000 --> 02:16:35,400 The profane word was, you talked about a bunch of times, Kappa 2354 02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:38,900 skate games. Expansions and things you can 2355 02:16:38,900 --> 02:16:41,100 add on to it. This is again a little bit 2356 02:16:41,100 --> 02:16:42,700 different than a lot of the games. 2357 02:16:42,700 --> 02:16:45,799 We've talked about that do have SRD is where like I might, what 2358 02:16:45,799 --> 02:16:48,200 jumps on my head right away is game like Lumen because women's 2359 02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:51,500 the whole game and it's more like kind of reskinning it and 2360 02:16:51,500 --> 02:16:53,700 adding stuff and doing stuff like that as opposed to this 2361 02:16:53,700 --> 02:16:56,200 game where I feel like you're not really going to reskin this 2362 02:16:56,200 --> 02:16:59,600 or even really hack it. It's what can you add to it 2363 02:16:59,799 --> 02:17:02,500 right now? Because it's so you can't 2364 02:17:02,500 --> 02:17:04,400 there's not a whole lot to change because that's about as 2365 02:17:04,400 --> 02:17:08,600 simple as it can get, you know. But with that Simplicity allows 2366 02:17:08,600 --> 02:17:13,700 you to like it gives you more canvas space like all right, so 2367 02:17:13,700 --> 02:17:18,400 let's say I want A system with cars. 2368 02:17:18,799 --> 02:17:21,200 I want this to be a drag racing game. 2369 02:17:21,900 --> 02:17:28,400 This is now the the fast and weird I like that actually. 2370 02:17:28,400 --> 02:17:31,799 I should I like that way more than I should run it down but 2371 02:17:31,799 --> 02:17:37,900 don't forget about it, sort of renowned family play testing 2372 02:17:37,900 --> 02:17:41,500 feedback, things to Tom, Owen just throwing that out there. 2373 02:17:43,600 --> 02:17:48,100 And also there's some other wonderful people who did help 2374 02:17:48,100 --> 02:17:52,500 play test that he Rivera Daniela, Mirage and Revenant 2375 02:17:52,500 --> 02:17:56,500 Rogue. Open up the front of this one. 2376 02:17:56,500 --> 02:18:00,799 This is wired or about to get to play testing feedback, thanks to 2377 02:18:00,799 --> 02:18:04,299 Revenant, Rogue Jeremiah Bordeaux, Tom Owen, yo, and gave 2378 02:18:04,299 --> 02:18:06,299 Rivera. So there's a reason that a lot 2379 02:18:06,299 --> 02:18:08,600 of weird stuff is coming out. This time opening gave Rivera, 2380 02:18:09,299 --> 02:18:11,400 they helped, they helped make the game happen. 2381 02:18:11,799 --> 02:18:14,299 It's all's, we were almost involved some way. 2382 02:18:14,299 --> 02:18:17,799 I can't put my finger on now. Yeah, who knows? 2383 02:18:18,799 --> 02:18:21,500 That's weird. And then, let's get into the 2384 02:18:21,500 --> 02:18:25,100 first hack, which is also just has to tourism who hacked. 2385 02:18:25,299 --> 02:18:26,200 I'm game. All right. 2386 02:18:26,200 --> 02:18:30,000 Who hacked their own game? This is wired and we've talked 2387 02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:32,000 about this and I love it and I'm obsessed with it. 2388 02:18:32,299 --> 02:18:35,799 For four letters, mostly starting with w. 2389 02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:40,900 We got weird, we got wired, we got whacked which is the mafia 2390 02:18:40,900 --> 02:18:43,299 one. I didn't see hired the mercenary 2391 02:18:43,299 --> 02:18:45,500 one which adjacent. But listen. 2392 02:18:45,500 --> 02:18:50,500 I like the W's and and we'll see what we'll see. 2393 02:18:50,500 --> 02:18:51,700 What's next with some of these hacks. 2394 02:18:51,700 --> 02:18:54,600 I'm really excited for it. I really can't wait for the 2395 02:18:54,600 --> 02:18:57,000 weird. Lord Jin word. 2396 02:18:57,000 --> 02:19:03,799 Yeah, I hope to see a wild where it's like, heck scroll build be 2397 02:19:03,799 --> 02:19:09,200 pretty wild the when using, when I hear wild, I think like jungle 2398 02:19:09,200 --> 02:19:13,200 to who? All right, I think, I think, I 2399 02:19:13,200 --> 02:19:16,600 think jungle in the wild, you know, eat or it's Savannah even 2400 02:19:16,600 --> 02:19:20,900 what a little bit of both, you know, that's cool. 2401 02:19:21,299 --> 02:19:25,100 I like that. Just giving out free ideas here 2402 02:19:25,100 --> 02:19:27,400 for the gym. Hey, listen the jams coming up. 2403 02:19:27,600 --> 02:19:32,100 If you under wild just Ryan of the weeklies girl, you're 2404 02:19:32,100 --> 02:19:33,900 welcome for that bastard. Weird. 2405 02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:38,799 Please make that somebody the fast in the weird, the car. 2406 02:19:38,799 --> 02:19:43,100 Yeah, you make it that the jams coming up. 2407 02:19:43,100 --> 02:19:45,600 Listen, I got to do something at some point, so, maybe I'll make 2408 02:19:45,600 --> 02:19:46,600 something. We'll see. 2409 02:19:48,500 --> 02:19:53,600 All right, wired. So this is basically a Cyberpunk 2410 02:19:53,600 --> 02:19:58,700 version of weird from, you know, Kirby layout by their partner. 2411 02:19:58,900 --> 02:20:02,300 Kristen are from public domain and aided by Ben Elf or disaster 2412 02:20:02,300 --> 02:20:03,700 tourism. We've already talked about all 2413 02:20:03,700 --> 02:20:09,500 the cool people involved in that including our very own Tom Owen 2414 02:20:09,500 --> 02:20:12,600 here. The PDF is not in color. 2415 02:20:14,500 --> 02:20:18,200 I did not have anything in the do, if that's AI. 2416 02:20:18,200 --> 02:20:21,400 Don't know why that is, is your PDF from car? 2417 02:20:21,400 --> 02:20:25,100 Are all the Peaches on car? My PDF is black and white as 2418 02:20:25,100 --> 02:20:29,700 well. I'll poke her be on that one. 2419 02:20:31,900 --> 02:20:36,800 The booklet of the booklets in color, is it just the singles? 2420 02:20:40,400 --> 02:20:43,300 I could go back to doing the two-page spread, why is just the 2421 02:20:43,300 --> 02:20:47,700 singles black and white Kirby you killing me Smalls? 2422 02:20:47,900 --> 02:20:50,100 I got to go back to a two-page spread for the color. 2423 02:20:50,100 --> 02:20:53,400 I do love the color. The pink magenta color is one of 2424 02:20:53,408 --> 02:20:55,800 my favorite colors in the world. I don't know if you notice it 2425 02:20:55,800 --> 02:21:01,100 for many things around here, but I very much feel that, you know, 2426 02:21:01,100 --> 02:21:09,400 purple and the shades of purple the cyan and like Neon. 2427 02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:12,500 That's what makes cyberpunk cyberpunk. 2428 02:21:16,900 --> 02:21:26,600 The I did get hit with a wonderful little like, Reality 2429 02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:32,400 check and someone was describing like you know you find cyberpunk 2430 02:21:32,400 --> 02:21:36,300 setting, you know, fascinating and like attractive to the eye 2431 02:21:36,300 --> 02:21:39,700 because you don't recognize the advertisement. 2432 02:21:39,900 --> 02:21:47,700 There were all from the minions. A the Pixar or what have you? 2433 02:21:49,700 --> 02:21:54,300 Like suddenly be like, oh, this is horrible in his late stage, 2434 02:21:54,300 --> 02:21:57,100 capitalism at its finest. Oh, yeah. 2435 02:21:57,800 --> 02:22:00,000 Yeah. Like if you did not know 2436 02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:03,400 anything about advertisements. But when some like towns Times 2437 02:22:03,400 --> 02:22:08,100 Square and just looked around cyberpunks a lot closer than you 2438 02:22:08,100 --> 02:22:10,900 think. Oh yeah, I mean unquestionably, 2439 02:22:10,900 --> 02:22:13,400 it's really interesting. I saw on Twitter talking about 2440 02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:17,700 cyberpunk Edge Runners them show on Netflix, which I fucking love 2441 02:22:17,700 --> 02:22:20,500 by the way. Well, was in Singh was talking 2442 02:22:20,500 --> 02:22:23,000 about cyberpunk. Now, in 2022 versus talking 2443 02:22:23,000 --> 02:22:26,800 about cyberpunk in 1982 is very different because our technology 2444 02:22:26,800 --> 02:22:31,600 is a lot fucking closer. And now you can see that the 2445 02:22:31,600 --> 02:22:37,000 future that were looking at. Can't be the future we have now. 2446 02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:40,400 It's kind of like, looking back on all movies that talk about, 2447 02:22:40,700 --> 02:22:43,500 you know, the future in 2020, and it's like, that's not 2448 02:22:43,500 --> 02:22:45,200 protect. We have, you know what I mean? 2449 02:22:46,800 --> 02:22:51,300 100%, I'm going to send you a Image really quickly, you'll get 2450 02:22:51,300 --> 02:22:53,800 a kick out of this. This was from one of the 2451 02:22:53,800 --> 02:23:01,200 cyberpunk 2020, Chromebooks And there you go. 2452 02:23:03,100 --> 02:23:07,500 Oh gosh, the phone. Yes, cell phone upgrades, you 2453 02:23:07,500 --> 02:23:12,100 know, voicemail for 20 Euro bucks, a month, a fax interface 2454 02:23:12,600 --> 02:23:15,100 2 inch by 2 inch screen. Mmm. 2455 02:23:16,600 --> 02:23:19,800 That's why I'm saying that the technology of things that 2456 02:23:19,800 --> 02:23:24,100 cyberpunk gets to on what people recognize a cyberpunk. 2457 02:23:24,200 --> 02:23:27,600 Our technology is different than I was so far past and different 2458 02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:30,000 that it's really interesting to see cyberpunk you almost have to 2459 02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:31,900 look at it is like an alternate timeline at this point. 2460 02:23:31,900 --> 02:23:35,100 Not a future because what in the future basically? 2461 02:23:35,100 --> 02:23:36,900 We're cyberpunk it. So it is it's interesting to 2462 02:23:36,908 --> 02:23:39,000 think about it. It's also interesting to think 2463 02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:43,000 of if people were to write cyberpunk now what will people 2464 02:23:43,000 --> 02:23:46,300 think Tech is in 50 years versus what they thought Tech was. 2465 02:23:46,400 --> 02:23:48,800 Years ago. I daresay. 2466 02:23:48,800 --> 02:23:52,300 That's where you would see a shift more towards like solar 2467 02:23:52,300 --> 02:23:55,500 Punk post, collapse. Oh yeah. 2468 02:23:55,500 --> 02:24:00,200 Well because I mean it's it's much more inevitable than it was 2469 02:24:00,200 --> 02:24:01,700 in 1980. You know what I mean? 2470 02:24:03,400 --> 02:24:06,400 So it's interesting that cyberpunk in the future just 2471 02:24:06,400 --> 02:24:13,200 means post-apocalyptic Because the future people, so wired. 2472 02:24:13,300 --> 02:24:16,200 Well, we were just talking about and now I have the color version 2473 02:24:16,200 --> 02:24:18,100 up. So let me do a little zoom on 2474 02:24:18,100 --> 02:24:20,000 this and we'll get to single page here. 2475 02:24:20,800 --> 02:24:22,000 This is the page. Yeah. 2476 02:24:22,500 --> 02:24:25,700 Yeah, it's gorgeous. And the colors might kill and 2477 02:24:25,700 --> 02:24:26,700 kill him. The game here. 2478 02:24:27,200 --> 02:24:30,700 So that original page we have to talk about the beginning of 2479 02:24:30,700 --> 02:24:34,500 weird or wired is an is an ultra-light cyberpunk tabletop 2480 02:24:34,500 --> 02:24:35,900 role-playing game. From one of the players can be 2481 02:24:35,900 --> 02:24:37,600 played with or without a game master. 2482 02:24:37,700 --> 02:24:40,800 A lot of the wording is A similar with just some tweaks, 2483 02:24:40,800 --> 02:24:42,800 you know? And that's what's great. 2484 02:24:42,800 --> 02:24:45,300 This is a perfect example of hacking, the system. 2485 02:24:47,300 --> 02:24:50,200 Straight code is done, permanent damage to the global Network and 2486 02:24:50,200 --> 02:24:53,400 net running carries its risk more than ever now. 2487 02:24:53,800 --> 02:24:57,600 A little risk has never stopped you before Ro 1, D 3 for each 2488 02:24:57,600 --> 02:25:00,600 attribute. So instead of what we have in 2489 02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:06,100 weird, which is Vigor mind, and power feels very, you know, sort 2490 02:25:06,100 --> 02:25:10,600 of sorcery. You got tough wire and skill 2491 02:25:10,800 --> 02:25:12,700 which is an interesting. Three choices. 2492 02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:17,100 Tough is your well-being in a resistance wire is your 2493 02:25:17,100 --> 02:25:19,100 cyberware. Capability in your net. 2494 02:25:19,100 --> 02:25:23,400 Running skill and skill is your prowess and strength. 2495 02:25:23,400 --> 02:25:27,300 I the 11 knock, I think I have on this game is using skill as 2496 02:25:27,300 --> 02:25:33,200 the name of an attribute, because it's so intrinsically a 2497 02:25:33,208 --> 02:25:36,100 little bit. It is. 2498 02:25:36,200 --> 02:25:40,400 It's so linked. You tabletop vernacular that 2499 02:25:40,400 --> 02:25:43,500 when you think scale, you think of a skill, right? 2500 02:25:43,600 --> 02:25:48,000 Like prowess would be like a possibly better option. 2501 02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:50,700 Where it's like your skill and string, right? 2502 02:25:51,900 --> 02:25:56,400 Yeah, I completely agree. A Vitality encumbrance all the 2503 02:25:56,400 --> 02:25:58,800 same. Your vitality is equal to 1 D6 + 2504 02:25:58,800 --> 02:26:02,100 stuff, which is same. As it was with weird of power 2505 02:26:02,100 --> 02:26:07,000 and conference is one is up to 2 T 3 plus skill. 2506 02:26:07,200 --> 02:26:11,400 In which is no because it was Vigor, I'm sorry. 2507 02:26:11,400 --> 02:26:17,300 The Vigor in would vigorously and skill for power. 2508 02:26:17,300 --> 02:26:21,100 Yeah so still the same just different words and Chip slots, 2509 02:26:21,600 --> 02:26:25,800 you can equip hacks with up to 2, D, 3 plus wires. 2510 02:26:25,800 --> 02:26:27,700 So Chip slots are now your magic. 2511 02:26:27,700 --> 02:26:29,900 It's your, it's your hacks. It's your, it's your things like 2512 02:26:29,900 --> 02:26:33,900 that and you can spin credits to raise each attribute by one. 2513 02:26:33,900 --> 02:26:37,900 So instead of XP you get from or gold, you get from Monsters, 2514 02:26:37,900 --> 02:26:43,900 it's credits. You get from doing things going 2515 02:26:43,900 --> 02:26:47,800 straight into here. I love this page. 2516 02:26:49,800 --> 02:26:51,900 Love the font Choice. Love this. 2517 02:26:51,900 --> 02:26:55,700 This bluish purple and cyan bar. The end magenta background. 2518 02:26:55,700 --> 02:26:58,800 I mean, if you can see my computer, it's literally just 2519 02:26:59,100 --> 02:27:02,800 Blinky cyan and magenta. Vaporwave and and the whole 2520 02:27:02,800 --> 02:27:06,300 cyberpunk aesthetic like really just speaks to me, so really 2521 02:27:06,300 --> 02:27:08,500 enjoy it. Check my gear here. 2522 02:27:08,700 --> 02:27:12,100 I choose whatever gear type you like roll damage based on the 2523 02:27:12,100 --> 02:27:15,100 gear you have equipped if you're using it to attack. 2524 02:27:15,700 --> 02:27:19,000 If you roll maximum damage on the die, you may roll once more 2525 02:27:19,200 --> 02:27:23,100 with the next size dice equipped gear feels encumbrance lat. 2526 02:27:24,300 --> 02:27:29,100 I think it's really clear that when Kirby row, weird. 2527 02:27:29,100 --> 02:27:34,700 And then wrote wired, there's a, a trajectory a little bit where 2528 02:27:34,700 --> 02:27:37,600 some of the things that we questioned and weird have 2529 02:27:37,600 --> 02:27:42,200 already been clarified in wired, which came after which gives you 2530 02:27:42,200 --> 02:27:44,300 kind of a sense of we are, weird, is going to go when they 2531 02:27:44,300 --> 02:27:46,400 change it to a framework. Because I think one of the 2532 02:27:46,400 --> 02:27:51,300 things we talked about with the damaged, I was, can you only do 2533 02:27:51,300 --> 02:27:54,500 it once and in this it specifically says, if Roll 2534 02:27:54,500 --> 02:27:57,000 maximum damage to the day. You met were all once more. 2535 02:27:57,000 --> 02:27:59,400 So there's already clarifications, which is adds 2536 02:27:59,600 --> 02:28:03,800 specificity over generality. Yeah. 2537 02:28:03,900 --> 02:28:08,300 Which is super helpful in this. And it's interesting that it, 2538 02:28:09,200 --> 02:28:12,600 you get that a lot sooner than in weird, which didn't happen to 2539 02:28:12,600 --> 02:28:15,300 like the maybe like the next page when you got to combat. 2540 02:28:16,300 --> 02:28:18,200 Even when you talk about the weapons section, which is 2541 02:28:18,200 --> 02:28:24,400 interesting. So gear example, an example, Oil 2542 02:28:24,400 --> 02:28:27,400 is listed here at the top of here, instead of when it was on 2543 02:28:27,400 --> 02:28:30,200 weird. So, it's on the weapons page, 2544 02:28:32,700 --> 02:28:34,000 Maybe it all blur together for me. 2545 02:28:34,200 --> 02:28:35,900 Oh you're completely right. If you roll maximum damage on 2546 02:28:35,900 --> 02:28:38,200 the die, you may roll once more with the next size size. 2547 02:28:38,400 --> 02:28:40,700 It actually says, once more. Did we really just not read 2548 02:28:40,700 --> 02:28:46,200 that. I said once more, Yeah, I like 2549 02:28:46,200 --> 02:28:49,200 exploding dice. I probably just mix the word 2550 02:28:49,200 --> 02:28:50,400 once more. Yeah. 2551 02:28:51,400 --> 02:28:54,000 So small medium, large and overweight, which is an 2552 02:28:54,000 --> 02:28:57,700 interesting choice to use your size examples damage in slots. 2553 02:28:57,700 --> 02:29:01,100 For each one small are things like knife and knuckle dusters 2554 02:29:01,500 --> 02:29:04,700 1, d 2 damage. One slot medium is pistol and a 2555 02:29:04,700 --> 02:29:08,300 fire katana. Which is a really interesting 2556 02:29:08,300 --> 02:29:12,400 choice, 1, D 3 and 2 slot. More exciting than a regular 2557 02:29:12,400 --> 02:29:15,400 Katana. And this the Grim dark future 2558 02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:19,100 Aye want to fire Katana for sure. 2559 02:29:19,500 --> 02:29:23,100 It's basically a lightsaber, but cooler is what it, what it 2560 02:29:23,100 --> 02:29:29,000 amounts to large is an assault rifle or a pulse Hammer, which 2561 02:29:29,000 --> 02:29:33,800 is 1 D6, or three slots, and then overweight rocket launcher, 2562 02:29:33,800 --> 02:29:36,800 and Gatling gun, 3D three and five slots. 2563 02:29:37,700 --> 02:29:41,800 One of the things that you can see us like nitpicking and weird 2564 02:29:42,200 --> 02:29:43,700 is indifferent. That is different. 2565 02:29:43,700 --> 02:29:46,500 And wired though, is they're listed as example. 2566 02:29:47,200 --> 02:29:48,200 Yep. Yep. 2567 02:29:48,500 --> 02:29:51,900 If I really didn't really think it was just a Mist word in the 2568 02:29:51,900 --> 02:29:54,100 layout, because I think there's plenty of space port and 2569 02:29:54,100 --> 02:29:55,800 everything in between the weird one. 2570 02:29:56,200 --> 02:30:00,500 So I do like, like you just had that they're listed as as 2571 02:30:00,500 --> 02:30:03,300 examples because, you know, you obviously have more than just a 2572 02:30:03,308 --> 02:30:08,700 knife and knuckle dusters, which is, which is necessary hacks, 2573 02:30:08,700 --> 02:30:13,300 which is the new Magic choose, a hack based on the types below. 2574 02:30:15,500 --> 02:30:19,300 The hack specifics are up to you but the greater the ability to 2575 02:30:19,300 --> 02:30:23,300 have the more chips, Lots it requires doubling the slot cost 2576 02:30:23,300 --> 02:30:26,600 for a hack increases, its effect by that much. 2577 02:30:26,700 --> 02:30:31,600 For example, reformat is a to chips lot cost heels Target for 2578 02:30:31,600 --> 02:30:35,300 D to 2 d 2 damage instead of one d2i. 2579 02:30:35,900 --> 02:30:40,300 What's I love that literally it's just a couple of words that 2580 02:30:40,300 --> 02:30:44,600 are different, but 90% of the language is even the same But 2581 02:30:44,600 --> 02:30:48,300 it's a whole different. I love how easily it is to 2582 02:30:48,300 --> 02:30:50,800 switch magic to hacking and it works so well. 2583 02:30:52,800 --> 02:30:57,500 One thing that I noticed about the, with the hack being Trojan 2584 02:30:57,800 --> 02:31:04,500 that I suppose means Rome is canonically existent in any 2585 02:31:04,500 --> 02:31:10,300 weird game or wired game, it has to be, I mean it's Earth, it is 2586 02:31:10,300 --> 02:31:13,500 future Earth. So Rome must in fact exist. 2587 02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:18,100 This is, you know, reading I'm going. 2588 02:31:18,100 --> 02:31:21,000 Huh? That means that well Brutus as 2589 02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:27,100 well. I mean, So the five types of 2590 02:31:27,100 --> 02:31:29,200 hacks are reformat, which is basically. 2591 02:31:29,400 --> 02:31:33,100 It is repairing and healing and target for the effect and I like 2592 02:31:33,100 --> 02:31:36,300 that they listed affect slash damage here instead of just 2593 02:31:36,300 --> 02:31:39,400 damage right. Tom because then the last one we 2594 02:31:39,400 --> 02:31:43,200 said well healed it just has damaged listed but putting both 2595 02:31:43,200 --> 02:31:46,300 in clarifies, it doesn't always just have to be, you know, 2596 02:31:46,300 --> 02:31:50,800 damage, one slot utility. So it's reformat utility 2597 02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:54,600 bypassed Road. And Brutus utility is Target. 2598 02:31:54,600 --> 02:31:59,600 Enhance read motive. 1 d 2 for the effect of damage and one 2599 02:31:59,600 --> 02:32:05,500 slot bypasses crack a passcode, gain access, One, D 3 and 2. 2600 02:32:05,500 --> 02:32:07,900 Slots Trojan is installed malware. 2601 02:32:07,900 --> 02:32:11,200 Install. A backdoor to the 343 slots and 2602 02:32:11,200 --> 02:32:14,300 Brutus is brute. Force entry, major, shut down, 2603 02:32:14,300 --> 02:32:16,200 3. D, 3 and 4 slots. 2604 02:32:19,700 --> 02:32:21,700 I like it. I mean it's exactly all the 2605 02:32:21,700 --> 02:32:24,500 things that I think about when I'm I would, I would create 2606 02:32:24,500 --> 02:32:28,600 computer hacking is all these various instances. 2607 02:32:28,800 --> 02:32:33,200 Just fossil and like Daft Punk's Technologic and the background 2608 02:32:33,200 --> 02:32:37,900 when your Bomb. I would say that would be a 2609 02:32:37,900 --> 02:32:40,900 great way to probably pull like if you wanted to create your 2610 02:32:40,900 --> 02:32:47,800 own, um, max even sounds silly, but It's good. 2611 02:32:47,800 --> 02:32:49,400 You never know. Yeah. 2612 02:32:49,900 --> 02:32:53,100 Hey listen. If you're playing wired to one 2613 02:32:53,100 --> 02:32:56,800 of the people, I really like for music since you brought it up is 2614 02:32:57,300 --> 02:32:59,900 car case here. White bet on Spotify twitch safe 2615 02:32:59,900 --> 02:33:01,900 and everything. If you're streaming it but they 2616 02:33:01,900 --> 02:33:06,400 have a ton of really great cyberpunk just music, no lyrics 2617 02:33:06,400 --> 02:33:09,400 and stuff like that. Oh yeah. 2618 02:33:09,400 --> 02:33:16,600 I think I saw their music listed on a cyberpunk subreddit, those 2619 02:33:16,600 --> 02:33:20,900 brows. A lot of cyberpunk, she should 2620 02:33:20,900 --> 02:33:22,200 definitely check it out. It's great. 2621 02:33:22,200 --> 02:33:26,300 I'll just like my ADHD brain. Loves EDM for like the constant 2622 02:33:26,300 --> 02:33:29,300 base Bean with a bunch of other stuff going on. 2623 02:33:29,300 --> 02:33:31,500 So I can focus. I put car, I have a whole 2624 02:33:31,500 --> 02:33:35,700 literal, a whole white bat ats-v playlist just to have like 2625 02:33:35,700 --> 02:33:39,100 cyberpunk or industrial or something, like blasting, it's 2626 02:33:39,100 --> 02:33:40,500 really great. Check them out. 2627 02:33:41,600 --> 02:33:44,900 Firewalls is the next thing which is basically armor which 2628 02:33:44,900 --> 02:33:48,000 is interesting in the way that it it's done. 2629 02:33:49,000 --> 02:33:52,200 It's interesting firewall, protects you from enemy hacks, 2630 02:33:52,200 --> 02:33:54,600 the storing of the firewall, the harder it is to hack. 2631 02:33:54,700 --> 02:33:58,000 Firewall uses chips, Lots, add mod to hacking rolls. 2632 02:33:58,200 --> 02:34:01,600 So it's more than just armor in this one, there's firewalls on 2633 02:34:01,600 --> 02:34:05,300 top of armor because you have to protect against hacking which is 2634 02:34:05,300 --> 02:34:08,400 different in that you don't have armor against magic and weird 2635 02:34:08,500 --> 02:34:11,200 but it would make sense to have protection against hacking in a 2636 02:34:11,208 --> 02:34:12,500 cyberpunk game. So this is one of the big 2637 02:34:12,500 --> 02:34:16,200 differences. I think that's been added in and 2638 02:34:16,200 --> 02:34:19,300 you definitely want to have that because last thing you And so on 2639 02:34:19,300 --> 02:34:23,000 jacking your cyber where ya gotta have that McAfee, you 2640 02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:28,200 know, oh, totally McAfee. Whoever, however, he sent 2641 02:34:29,900 --> 02:34:31,500 firewall protects, you already read that. 2642 02:34:31,500 --> 02:34:35,500 So firewall, so you have mind, protection, slots and bonus. 2643 02:34:35,500 --> 02:34:39,900 So it saves Arya the free one that comes with the cyberware. 2644 02:34:40,700 --> 02:34:42,300 Yeah, there you go. And then trust me. 2645 02:34:42,300 --> 02:34:43,900 There's no hacks involved in that one. 2646 02:34:44,400 --> 02:34:48,300 It works perfectly guys. Um, so it's exactly the same 2647 02:34:48,300 --> 02:34:51,500 thing that our I'm as armor works but again it's for hack 2648 02:34:51,500 --> 02:34:55,600 specifically. So you've got no firewall which 2649 02:34:55,600 --> 02:34:57,300 means no protection, no modifier. 2650 02:34:57,600 --> 02:35:03,600 It's one plus two slots and then the bonus is a hack effect. 2651 02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:08,000 So if you have no firewall, you get a heck of it. 2652 02:35:08,900 --> 02:35:11,200 But what is the OnePlus, Two slots mean? 2653 02:35:17,100 --> 02:35:22,900 I want to say that is like the role I could be wrong. 2654 02:35:24,300 --> 02:35:30,200 This one eye. Play tested once to be entirely 2655 02:35:30,200 --> 02:35:33,000 honest. Yeah well that's good because in 2656 02:35:33,000 --> 02:35:39,700 the armor there's no pluses I don't really see where the like 2657 02:35:39,700 --> 02:35:43,100 two plus two comes into effect in the OnePlus 2 goes into 2658 02:35:43,100 --> 02:35:46,400 effect. Huh, we get to it. 2659 02:35:46,408 --> 02:35:54,300 So there's non discount CST lgrd castle guard and guarded night. 2660 02:35:54,400 --> 02:35:57,900 I assume the bottom one is, grd and k, and t totally read 2661 02:35:57,900 --> 02:36:00,900 something different for the last half of that. 2662 02:36:02,200 --> 02:36:03,700 No, what did you write? What did you say? 2663 02:36:05,900 --> 02:36:10,400 Let's keep moving you'd like to buy a value. 2664 02:36:10,400 --> 02:36:13,700 Could figure it out. I gotta go put it together. 2665 02:36:13,700 --> 02:36:16,400 Yeah. Oops, no. 2666 02:36:16,400 --> 02:36:18,000 My I'm that's probably the one to. 2667 02:36:18,100 --> 02:36:21,300 So discount is 1 mod 1. Protect two plus two slots and 2668 02:36:21,300 --> 02:36:25,500 you get a small gear effect castle guard, is to mod to 2669 02:36:25,500 --> 02:36:30,400 protection and three shots and we'll call it Garden night and 2670 02:36:30,700 --> 02:36:33,100 it's 3 mod. Detection and foresight. 2671 02:36:33,100 --> 02:36:35,200 So again, basically just have armor works but I'm still I we 2672 02:36:35,200 --> 02:36:37,900 got to get some clarification on what the 1 + 2. + 2 + 2 on the 2673 02:36:37,900 --> 02:36:41,300 slot since it is specified in the comment section. 2674 02:36:41,600 --> 02:36:43,200 This will have to. Yeah, it's got to be. 2675 02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:45,200 I mean, yeah. So we'll see. 2676 02:36:45,500 --> 02:36:47,900 Our mom is very much the same as. 2677 02:36:48,200 --> 02:36:52,100 Yeah, weird. There is a tilt my head. 2678 02:36:52,600 --> 02:36:56,500 This is one of those things that I will say that seeing it with 2679 02:36:56,500 --> 02:36:58,300 no explanation and the getting the explanation later. 2680 02:36:58,300 --> 02:37:01,100 It would it is nice to have the explanation when you first see 2681 02:37:01,100 --> 02:37:02,800 the thing. So I think Gavin like one more 2682 02:37:02,800 --> 02:37:08,000 line of what the plus two here was, would be nice or example of 2683 02:37:08,000 --> 02:37:12,100 how things would shake down underneath and there's room on 2684 02:37:12,100 --> 02:37:14,100 the page. I think I don't think they're 2685 02:37:14,100 --> 02:37:18,100 there, they're asking for space here, so I think that'd be cool. 2686 02:37:18,400 --> 02:37:20,600 I mean, like you said armor works exactly the same it's the 2687 02:37:20,600 --> 02:37:23,500 same. The options are non-leather 2688 02:37:23,500 --> 02:37:27,900 shirt, bomber jacket, riot gear, and a wrist Shield instead of a 2689 02:37:27,900 --> 02:37:31,900 small Shield, the bonuses for non, are you? 2690 02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:36,100 Plus one reformed effect on self and on the leather shirt is plus 2691 02:37:36,100 --> 02:37:38,100 12 small gear damage and the rest of it. 2692 02:37:38,100 --> 02:37:41,100 The numbers are all exactly the same as they are and where it's 2693 02:37:41,100 --> 02:37:45,600 no reason to dig through that ever got tweaked I'd say bomber 2694 02:37:45,600 --> 02:37:50,600 jacket would be reworded as just a leather jacket, almost the 2695 02:37:50,608 --> 02:37:53,400 same as wearing a leather shirt is that longer sleeves. 2696 02:37:54,100 --> 02:37:55,000 True. True. 2697 02:37:55,000 --> 02:37:59,400 True true. Just some wording thoughts. 2698 02:38:00,400 --> 02:38:03,700 I could be like, camel are there are. 2699 02:38:03,700 --> 02:38:08,300 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'd have to get a permission 2700 02:38:08,300 --> 02:38:10,900 to use that. Oh, yeah. 2701 02:38:10,900 --> 02:38:12,600 Is it a Brisk of or is a brand name? 2702 02:38:12,600 --> 02:38:15,600 Isn't it like Gore-Tex, or what have you? 2703 02:38:15,900 --> 02:38:19,000 You can have you just have like armored, you know, armored pal 2704 02:38:19,000 --> 02:38:21,600 like in armor, we've or something like that. 2705 02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:22,900 Yeah. You could tell that something 2706 02:38:22,900 --> 02:38:27,000 like that and be fine. So we got offline and online 2707 02:38:27,000 --> 02:38:29,300 here. So offline enemies only damage 2708 02:38:29,300 --> 02:38:31,200 you. If they win a combat role if you 2709 02:38:31,200 --> 02:38:35,100 tie the role the enemy wins. So this is physical damage 2710 02:38:35,100 --> 02:38:38,100 versus basically hacking damage. Is what the offline at all on 2711 02:38:38,108 --> 02:38:39,700 this. And I like that, there's like 2712 02:38:39,700 --> 02:38:41,900 red on the offline and green on the online. 2713 02:38:41,900 --> 02:38:46,400 It's something great. Little great, great little tag 2714 02:38:46,400 --> 02:38:50,400 for that. So keep with the offline 2715 02:38:50,400 --> 02:38:55,600 attacking with a weapon, roldy 6 - scale plus armor against enemy 2716 02:38:55,600 --> 02:38:58,700 hit die, the lower winds attack exactly the same. 2717 02:38:58,700 --> 02:39:01,800 If your easier Vitality, your Mainframe loses power and you 2718 02:39:01,800 --> 02:39:04,200 drop unconscious a mysterious entity will collect you and 2719 02:39:04,200 --> 02:39:05,900 you'll be rebooted and Safe House. 2720 02:39:06,500 --> 02:39:09,000 If you go below your dead and it's all exactly the same on the 2721 02:39:09,008 --> 02:39:10,600 other one. Either to use words like 2722 02:39:10,600 --> 02:39:15,100 rebooted. Instead of, you know, the rest 2723 02:39:15,100 --> 02:39:18,200 and rest, right? What's different here is the 2724 02:39:18,200 --> 02:39:20,900 online which is why we have firewalls and stuff like that. 2725 02:39:20,900 --> 02:39:26,300 So the so you get net running. So you roll D6 - wire plus 2726 02:39:26,300 --> 02:39:30,200 firewall against the Network's, hack die. 2727 02:39:31,100 --> 02:39:36,300 The lower roll wins, the hack, and the outcome can be resolved. 2728 02:39:36,500 --> 02:39:42,200 Lacking a hostile Target roldy 6 - y r+ firewall against enemy 2729 02:39:42,200 --> 02:39:45,800 will fire wall if you roll lower than the enemy, your hat goes 2730 02:39:45,800 --> 02:39:47,800 off immediately. If you lose the role, your hack 2731 02:39:47,800 --> 02:39:51,400 activates immediately on the next turn but the targets a free 2732 02:39:51,400 --> 02:39:57,500 at Hack Slash attack this round Roll Effect or damage still not 2733 02:39:57,500 --> 02:40:00,200 seeing the explanation for that plus on the other one. 2734 02:40:02,300 --> 02:40:08,900 Yeah, I don't, I don't know. We'll have to talk because it's 2735 02:40:08,900 --> 02:40:11,500 specific to the slots specifically. 2736 02:40:11,600 --> 02:40:15,300 So I'm curious why it's 1 plus 2 instead of just 3 + 2 + 2. 2737 02:40:15,300 --> 02:40:18,900 Instead of like for we'll have to see. 2738 02:40:18,900 --> 02:40:22,900 We'll have to check in Amis work. 2739 02:40:23,600 --> 02:40:26,700 Very similar. Is it damaged eyes different in 2740 02:40:26,700 --> 02:40:33,100 this one by a decent amount. 3D two, three. 3 and 5 D. 326. 2741 02:40:34,400 --> 02:40:38,800 No, it's exactly the same, okay? Yeah. 5B 3. 2742 02:40:38,800 --> 02:40:45,000 Seems a little bit higher by Oh, you know what's interesting too? 2743 02:40:49,300 --> 02:40:53,100 I noticed that there's no clarification on ties for net 2744 02:40:53,100 --> 02:41:04,700 running either. So in the PDF of weird, the 2745 02:41:04,700 --> 02:41:08,400 enemy HP is four to ten twelve to eighteen and twenty to thirty 2746 02:41:08,400 --> 02:41:14,500 plus. But in my print copy instead of 2747 02:41:14,500 --> 02:41:17,900 HP, they list vitality and have roles for them. 2748 02:41:21,000 --> 02:41:25,700 Yep, that is correct seeing that. 2749 02:41:25,700 --> 02:41:28,800 They must have been updated PDF. Interesting. 2750 02:41:31,600 --> 02:41:35,200 I wonder if there's a clarification in here. 2751 02:41:35,200 --> 02:41:36,400 There's not still says one cluster. 2752 02:41:37,100 --> 02:41:40,900 Um, so, yeah, let me get rid of these weird singles. 2753 02:41:42,300 --> 02:41:44,600 All right, so enemies is exactly the same don't need to go over 2754 02:41:44,600 --> 02:41:47,800 it again. Anyways, this is what's 2755 02:41:47,800 --> 02:41:49,600 different enemies. Can occasionally have hacks 2756 02:41:49,600 --> 02:41:52,800 installed, if so, they may return a hack. 2757 02:41:52,800 --> 02:41:55,100 Instead of attempting an attack with the weapon, in this case, 2758 02:41:55,100 --> 02:41:58,600 roll the enemy XD, which is another HD. 2759 02:41:58,600 --> 02:42:04,700 It's they're basically there hacking So there's basic rough 2760 02:42:04,700 --> 02:42:08,800 and bosso. Basic there, XD is 1 D6 and 2761 02:42:08,800 --> 02:42:11,300 their hacks are one utility rough. 2762 02:42:11,300 --> 02:42:14,400 There's one D3 XD and they got one reformat one. 2763 02:42:14,400 --> 02:42:16,700 Utility one bypass and one Trojan. 2764 02:42:17,000 --> 02:42:21,200 And a boss is 1, d 2 XD and they get one reformat to utility or 2765 02:42:21,200 --> 02:42:25,900 to bypass one Trojan and one Brutus and then there's a whole 2766 02:42:25,900 --> 02:42:28,600 network to. So there's a difficulty level 2767 02:42:28,600 --> 02:42:32,700 for the network basic Is 1 D6. A rough network is One D 3 and a 2768 02:42:32,708 --> 02:42:37,400 challenging network is 1. D 2 credits over this city be 2769 02:42:37,400 --> 02:42:39,200 without credits. Each time you kill an enemy rule 2770 02:42:39,200 --> 02:42:43,300 for credits, spend 1000 credits to an increase in attribute by 2771 02:42:43,300 --> 02:42:47,900 1. Which if you look at the credits 2772 02:42:47,900 --> 02:42:53,500 here versus the gold in the previous one, basically, it's 2773 02:42:53,500 --> 02:42:57,400 just times 100, yeah. It feels more. 2774 02:42:57,400 --> 02:43:00,000 Satisfying and appropriate. Yeah. 2775 02:43:00,200 --> 02:43:02,000 Yeah. Because I mean if thousand 2776 02:43:02,000 --> 02:43:04,800 credits feels very cyberpunk as you like fuck I'm gonna 1,000 2777 02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:08,600 credits versus like yeah. Angled third 30 credits here. 2778 02:43:08,600 --> 02:43:14,700 I can upgrade my wire Organa Starbucks or whatever it is in 2779 02:43:14,700 --> 02:43:18,300 the future, you know. But I love this picture at the 2780 02:43:18,308 --> 02:43:20,700 bottom and I love the effect that was put on it. 2781 02:43:21,700 --> 02:43:25,100 The the hacking picture with this kind of like blue red, it 2782 02:43:25,100 --> 02:43:29,000 looks a little bit like I need some 3D glasses for it. 2783 02:43:30,100 --> 02:43:33,000 It's a really, really great shot at the bottom of this page. 2784 02:43:33,900 --> 02:43:41,800 If you think that could really benefit from having a Combat 2785 02:43:41,800 --> 02:43:46,100 example section there. Yeah because it does seem a 2786 02:43:46,108 --> 02:43:49,000 little bit overwhelming with. All right so there's firewalls. 2787 02:43:49,000 --> 02:43:51,500 There's a network going on at the same time so there's that 2788 02:43:51,500 --> 02:43:53,700 space. Meatspace, What are you doing? 2789 02:43:54,700 --> 02:43:56,200 Yeah, I think it's really interesting. 2790 02:43:56,200 --> 02:44:00,300 I think. I think it's hard with like the 2791 02:44:00,300 --> 02:44:03,400 called all concept ultra light gaming is you make it as concise 2792 02:44:03,400 --> 02:44:05,600 and tiny as you possibly can, you know? 2793 02:44:05,600 --> 02:44:08,200 And as soon as you start giving examples and stuff like that, I 2794 02:44:08,208 --> 02:44:11,400 think the thing the thing doubles so in size. 2795 02:44:11,400 --> 02:44:15,200 So it's a really interesting balance that with the only area 2796 02:44:15,200 --> 02:44:20,000 I would say. Baby beneficial died. 2797 02:44:20,000 --> 02:44:24,800 Just a show like yeah, I think I think an example even in with 2798 02:44:24,800 --> 02:44:27,400 them the gears, the stuff like that more examples or even like 2799 02:44:27,400 --> 02:44:29,900 you said, even just like one full page ad says, like an 2800 02:44:29,908 --> 02:44:34,300 example of play that it hits all of the little things in like 11 2801 02:44:35,000 --> 02:44:37,600 and it can be done and they are very stylistic way. 2802 02:44:37,600 --> 02:44:41,300 Like having my boss terminal like yeah. 2803 02:44:41,400 --> 02:44:42,200 Yeah. Welcome. 2804 02:44:42,200 --> 02:44:44,600 And I think even within the layout, I think there's room 2805 02:44:44,600 --> 02:44:46,700 because if you look at the first page here, there's like half 2806 02:44:46,700 --> 02:44:50,300 absolutely Each year if you look at the next page here you know 2807 02:44:50,300 --> 02:44:53,100 even even on the inside cover you know I love this is our 2808 02:44:53,100 --> 02:44:56,800 credit and stuff go but there's some space here even within this 2809 02:44:56,800 --> 02:44:58,800 there's a lot of space on this page. 2810 02:44:58,800 --> 02:45:02,700 So I do think there's room for it and even this one for how 2811 02:45:02,700 --> 02:45:05,500 small it is, there's really a ton of page based left in here. 2812 02:45:06,200 --> 02:45:08,900 You can even increase that font size pretty significantly and 2813 02:45:08,900 --> 02:45:13,000 not lose any space on that page, just shift everything up ever. 2814 02:45:13,000 --> 02:45:16,700 So slightly keep the art. You can have a small section on 2815 02:45:16,700 --> 02:45:21,000 how You like successfully run combat just in case it is a 2816 02:45:21,008 --> 02:45:24,500 little bit confusing. And, you know, last page it's 2817 02:45:24,500 --> 02:45:26,700 really only that amounts to about half the page but if you 2818 02:45:26,700 --> 02:45:29,000 really look at it. So there's plenty of space even 2819 02:45:29,000 --> 02:45:31,900 within this. He said, I mean, pamphlet turns 2820 02:45:31,900 --> 02:45:36,300 IAM a good, what I still, I love this informant, I was going to 2821 02:45:36,300 --> 02:45:39,200 say like it's fantastic. I really love the way that that 2822 02:45:39,200 --> 02:45:44,500 it came out this way. Last page is previously, this 2823 02:45:44,500 --> 02:45:47,700 was the renowned and disdain. I think now it's what street 2824 02:45:47,700 --> 02:45:50,600 cred and narc. So each time you increase an 2825 02:45:50,600 --> 02:45:54,500 attribute will 1 D6 and it's exactly the same. 2826 02:45:54,500 --> 02:45:57,300 So if you roll a 1 D to your net running has been safe and your 2827 02:45:57,300 --> 02:45:59,000 cyberware. Stays intact. 2828 02:45:59,100 --> 02:46:01,600 Also the actions you have taken have earned you some street 2829 02:46:01,600 --> 02:46:05,300 cred, Freedom, Fighters, local gangs, and other groups, might 2830 02:46:05,300 --> 02:46:08,400 hire you to help them. Hack Banks, steal from the core 2831 02:46:08,600 --> 02:46:12,100 and take out or debilitate local police forces or other similar 2832 02:46:12,100 --> 02:46:13,100 missions. I like that. 2833 02:46:13,100 --> 02:46:18,800 The difference in this is that your Renowned made all the 2834 02:46:18,800 --> 02:46:23,200 people like you right and in this one you are street cred 2835 02:46:23,300 --> 02:46:27,800 makes you like more Auntie you know establishment and stuff 2836 02:46:27,800 --> 02:46:29,000 like that. And you get. 2837 02:46:29,100 --> 02:46:30,800 Yeah. That's the theme of cyberpunk. 2838 02:46:31,000 --> 02:46:33,000 Exactly one. Yeah, that those are the people 2839 02:46:33,000 --> 02:46:34,200 you're trying to impress and help. 2840 02:46:34,300 --> 02:46:38,500 Unless you do want to be working for the Corp has and which case 2841 02:46:38,500 --> 02:46:43,100 you're covered there. It's different to I think 2842 02:46:43,100 --> 02:46:46,100 because whether you're a noun or disdain and weird, it's like 2843 02:46:46,100 --> 02:46:48,800 okay I'm a good guy or I'm a bandit. 2844 02:46:48,800 --> 02:46:51,600 I think there's like you could really go either way and this 2845 02:46:51,600 --> 02:46:54,300 it's like you're a street cred or a fucking bootlicker. 2846 02:46:54,300 --> 02:46:55,600 Which one do you really want to be? 2847 02:46:55,600 --> 02:46:58,700 You know what I mean? There's a much like if he 2848 02:46:58,700 --> 02:47:02,900 becoming glitched like, that could or you could perhaps even 2849 02:47:02,900 --> 02:47:07,500 see, you know, like depending on what your perspective is and how 2850 02:47:07,500 --> 02:47:14,700 you want to play, Maybe running the operation is your goal and 2851 02:47:14,700 --> 02:47:22,200 the like, I mean I may have just been reading the cyberpunk 2020 2852 02:47:22,200 --> 02:47:27,300 like guide to corporate stuff so maybe that's why that's on my 2853 02:47:27,300 --> 02:47:37,000 mind I was like you go. I do love the idea of what being 2854 02:47:37,000 --> 02:47:43,300 incorpo know, just how how it is so open to interpretation. 2855 02:47:43,600 --> 02:47:44,500 Oh yeah. Yeah. 2856 02:47:48,700 --> 02:47:53,100 I'm obviously, you don't want to be that, don't ya? 2857 02:47:53,600 --> 02:48:01,700 All right, all right. We're getting it from the inside 2858 02:48:01,700 --> 02:48:05,100 like you can get the as long as you hit five, just get 24, and 2859 02:48:05,100 --> 02:48:08,200 then go the other direction. If you, if you roll a five or 2860 02:48:08,200 --> 02:48:10,000 six, never running has corrupted, some parts of your 2861 02:48:10,000 --> 02:48:13,200 cyber where this causes you to be more easily angered, violent, 2862 02:48:13,200 --> 02:48:18,300 and hostile towards everyone. Your everyone, you're seeing in 2863 02:48:18,300 --> 02:48:22,900 the I'm light as a cops and you're deemed a narc, the core 2864 02:48:22,900 --> 02:48:25,600 and please take notice and offer you work to eliminate gangs 2865 02:48:25,600 --> 02:48:28,200 hack, local organizations or kill citizens that are fighting 2866 02:48:28,200 --> 02:48:31,000 the status quo, keep track of both. 2867 02:48:31,400 --> 02:48:35,000 Once you reach rank 5, you are a hero or glitched. 2868 02:48:35,000 --> 02:48:37,200 You may choose to retire or follow the path of that one 2869 02:48:37,200 --> 02:48:39,300 attribute exclusively until you die. 2870 02:48:40,000 --> 02:48:44,400 And then we get to the character sheet which is literally exactly 2871 02:48:44,400 --> 02:48:47,800 the same. Just with, you know, five words 2872 02:48:47,800 --> 02:48:51,900 change Street cred Mark. Tough skill wire, you know? 2873 02:48:52,000 --> 02:48:53,800 Yeah. And the font a little pixelated 2874 02:48:53,800 --> 02:48:56,700 font and that's it. That is the game. 2875 02:48:56,800 --> 02:49:00,400 That is disaster. Tourism doesn't have the exalted 2876 02:49:00,400 --> 02:49:04,300 funeral like the print book does right there on the back but that 2877 02:49:04,300 --> 02:49:10,600 is weird and wired. Great Frameworks and games 2878 02:49:10,600 --> 02:49:16,800 within themselves. Love both, I think the whole 2879 02:49:18,100 --> 02:49:22,700 God, this is so open to hacking, you know, like I was in a game 2880 02:49:22,700 --> 02:49:25,400 not as in like, you know, hack the system. 2881 02:49:26,600 --> 02:49:31,100 As a gamer as opposed to cyberbunker or Netrunner a 2882 02:49:31,100 --> 02:49:36,800 cyberpunk UR, fucking Boomer, but those all cyber culture 2883 02:49:36,800 --> 02:49:39,200 under booster. Yeah, yeah. 2884 02:49:40,700 --> 02:49:44,000 Brush up on your lingo chew. Yeah, I'm getting there. 2885 02:49:44,100 --> 02:49:47,700 Listen, I watched edged Runners. I, at least heard them say to 2886 02:49:47,700 --> 02:49:54,000 him a lot, don't know where it came from, but that's weird and 2887 02:49:54,000 --> 02:49:57,200 wired can't wait for. Like jam. 2888 02:49:57,200 --> 02:50:02,700 Can't wait for Gil game and all the things that come from the oh 2889 02:50:02,700 --> 02:50:06,000 yeah, the print version of profane word. 2890 02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:10,100 Come out again. Your projects that come out 2891 02:50:10,300 --> 02:50:14,500 Divine and Arcane word correct Divine, an Arcane weird, which 2892 02:50:14,500 --> 02:50:18,900 will be a weird. I don't think it's going to be, 2893 02:50:19,500 --> 02:50:24,800 probably I think pushing the max of what you can saddle Stitch. 2894 02:50:24,800 --> 02:50:29,300 So be 64 pages. Ages with the cover in coastal. 2895 02:50:29,300 --> 02:50:30,000 Perfect. Binding. 2896 02:50:30,600 --> 02:50:35,400 Yeah, there's a lot to kind of delve into especially taking 2897 02:50:35,400 --> 02:50:41,100 thrifts like incantation not directly but like very inspired 2898 02:50:41,100 --> 02:50:45,800 by that to have words to roll on and doing a little bit more in 2899 02:50:45,800 --> 02:50:48,300 depth on that like adjectives and nouns. 2900 02:50:49,100 --> 02:50:53,300 You're taking six your time saying this by 10. 2901 02:50:54,200 --> 02:50:58,200 Yeah, just for magic, just for just for magic. 2902 02:50:58,200 --> 02:51:01,100 That shows you how much you can add to this. 2903 02:51:02,800 --> 02:51:07,800 And yeah, again, I love these Kirby is an awesome person. 2904 02:51:08,400 --> 02:51:12,500 All of their stuff is fantastic. Evergreen Wilds, bucket bash, 2905 02:51:12,500 --> 02:51:15,300 which is now Sweet Tooth. I believe is a new name for it. 2906 02:51:15,900 --> 02:51:19,100 Slasher paranormal Rivals. I think Rivals is probably the 2907 02:51:19,100 --> 02:51:22,500 first know, I think about Rivals and paranormal at the same time. 2908 02:51:24,100 --> 02:51:26,100 And that was my first intro in. Yeah. 2909 02:51:26,100 --> 02:51:30,300 Disaster tourism. And then here we are. 2910 02:51:31,200 --> 02:51:37,800 I yeah, my intro I suppose would have been the big project. 2911 02:51:37,800 --> 02:51:41,500 He talked about that sorry. They talked about that shift to 2912 02:51:42,700 --> 02:51:47,200 working on smaller games and Nexon, whatever it was. 2913 02:51:47,800 --> 02:51:51,900 I think it was a good ship, I think a year a year. 2914 02:51:52,300 --> 02:51:55,000 This isn't All of them, there's like three more that I don't 2915 02:51:55,000 --> 02:51:56,600 have that are like packed away over there. 2916 02:51:56,600 --> 02:51:59,700 I think we'll to more paranormal and Rivals don't have the dark 2917 02:51:59,700 --> 02:52:02,200 here. Don't have this house is haunted 2918 02:52:02,200 --> 02:52:10,800 here, one year, this is insane. I believe that's what he said, I 2919 02:52:10,800 --> 02:52:13,400 think that's what they said. Like, two weeks I think was was 2920 02:52:13,400 --> 02:52:17,200 about Max because they have the candles, they have the cassettes 2921 02:52:17,200 --> 02:52:18,500 that just came in. They got everything sitting 2922 02:52:18,500 --> 02:52:20,400 there, waiting elephants are versions. 2923 02:52:20,900 --> 02:52:22,700 You know, I love me. Some elephants are so. 2924 02:52:22,800 --> 02:52:25,200 Excited for the dark. Can't wait for that. 2925 02:52:25,200 --> 02:52:28,900 We're going to get to amazing Russian alone games, very close 2926 02:52:28,900 --> 02:52:29,600 real time. The dark. 2927 02:52:29,600 --> 02:52:35,000 We're going to have fungible fungi will fungible all done up 2928 02:52:35,100 --> 02:52:37,500 LF L is our style so excited for that. 2929 02:52:38,400 --> 02:52:43,200 There's a rumor floating around out there that Might hear a 2930 02:52:43,200 --> 02:52:46,600 little bit more from from, from Leo, a little bit to at some 2931 02:52:46,600 --> 02:52:49,600 point here on the show. We'll see, we'll see. 2932 02:52:49,700 --> 02:52:51,400 It's an interesting into the year. 2933 02:52:51,400 --> 02:52:53,000 I will say, over the next two months. 2934 02:52:53,000 --> 02:52:58,000 So I got a lot of got, a lot of fun stuff going on with this 2935 02:52:58,000 --> 02:52:59,700 rumor. Perhaps make me weep. 2936 02:53:02,800 --> 02:53:06,400 I would say glioma kiwi. Oh no. 2937 02:53:06,400 --> 02:53:08,600 I was a size ink. I thought you were saying, there 2938 02:53:08,600 --> 02:53:12,400 is a another project that was hoping for that by Allah might. 2939 02:53:12,400 --> 02:53:20,800 We might we might but a lot of really really great people 2940 02:53:20,800 --> 02:53:23,200 coming up. Do I dare give little little 2941 02:53:23,200 --> 02:53:27,500 little hints and previous radio on still listening coming up 2942 02:53:27,500 --> 02:53:30,500 soon on the show we're going to have maybe something from black 2943 02:53:30,500 --> 02:53:33,800 oath entertainment. Oh I mean, we're gonna have a 2944 02:53:33,808 --> 02:53:38,300 little bit of columns or might have a little bit of LFO Sr, the 2945 02:53:38,300 --> 02:53:41,700 next, the next, you know, the third seal, the end of the year 2946 02:53:41,700 --> 02:53:43,800 is going to be interesting and I'm here on the show. 2947 02:53:44,800 --> 02:53:48,200 Also we need to do a giveaway. Yes. 2948 02:53:48,200 --> 02:53:53,800 And I stupidly entered into the giveaway, so we're all the lands 2949 02:53:53,800 --> 02:53:56,000 on me. Someone else will get it. 2950 02:53:56,400 --> 02:53:58,900 So if you are here and you have not entered the giveaway, do 2951 02:53:58,900 --> 02:54:01,400 estimation Point giveaway in the next ten seconds, I will close 2952 02:54:01,400 --> 02:54:02,700 it and I'll pick three. Hers. 2953 02:54:02,900 --> 02:54:06,600 And then I will have you contact me and then I will get your 2954 02:54:06,600 --> 02:54:08,800 address and mail you the books. If you don't want me to have 2955 02:54:08,800 --> 02:54:10,700 your personal dress, I don't know any other way to get it to 2956 02:54:10,700 --> 02:54:12,600 you. So if you win, just save your 2957 02:54:12,600 --> 02:54:17,200 legs, probably ask Kirby, they would more than happy happily 2958 02:54:17,200 --> 02:54:19,300 send it. I'd assume, I don't know. 2959 02:54:19,600 --> 02:54:24,000 They've already sent them to do. I gotta trust me. 2960 02:54:24,000 --> 02:54:27,300 I won't talk to you because I don't care enough. 2961 02:54:28,600 --> 02:54:31,300 But yeah. So if you haven't entered now, 2962 02:54:31,700 --> 02:54:34,800 that state So, I'm going to close these in trees. 2963 02:54:36,900 --> 02:54:40,900 And pick three winners. Andy gets one. 2964 02:54:42,100 --> 02:54:45,600 That's evil. Andy the Riff Dome. 2965 02:54:45,600 --> 02:54:51,600 Answer gets one. And drow gets water so you 2966 02:54:51,600 --> 02:54:58,700 didn't win anyway. Um, so I will reach out to to 2967 02:54:58,700 --> 02:55:01,500 all of those Andy. I don't have to go far for a 2968 02:55:01,800 --> 02:55:06,000 third term answer. Um, do me a solid, just shoot me 2969 02:55:06,000 --> 02:55:08,700 a message on Discord are, Discord is right there. 2970 02:55:09,500 --> 02:55:13,500 I am Ryan. Or if you are in like exalted 2971 02:55:13,500 --> 02:55:15,100 like literally a million people's discords. 2972 02:55:15,600 --> 02:55:19,100 I'm in those discords is Ryan. Twi This find me there or shoot 2973 02:55:19,100 --> 02:55:21,900 me a message there or shoot me a message on Twitch or have you 2974 02:55:21,900 --> 02:55:24,100 like to do it. I'll get in touch with you and 2975 02:55:24,100 --> 02:55:27,300 get your address, and I'll reach out to Drought as well. 2976 02:55:27,500 --> 02:55:31,100 Regular here in our chat and get their address as well. 2977 02:55:31,100 --> 02:55:33,400 So I can ship out though. So thank you everyone for being 2978 02:55:33,400 --> 02:55:35,600 here. This is a little bit longer than 2979 02:55:35,600 --> 02:55:37,800 we've been doing lately. We're pushing well over three 2980 02:55:37,800 --> 02:55:40,200 hours between the interview and the chat with weird and word. 2981 02:55:40,600 --> 02:55:43,800 At some point, I will catch up on our Instagram, which is about 2982 02:55:43,800 --> 02:55:47,000 six weeks behind. So that's fun. 2983 02:55:48,000 --> 02:55:52,200 But but that's it. So where can people find? 2984 02:55:52,200 --> 02:55:58,700 You are stuffed, huh? I am if you check out the dice 2985 02:55:58,700 --> 02:56:06,800 Maven itch, it is just a single, very strange business card RPG, 2986 02:56:06,800 --> 02:56:11,700 but I do plan on sort of just dumping everything onto there 2987 02:56:11,700 --> 02:56:15,900 soon. And right now, the best place to 2988 02:56:15,900 --> 02:56:19,700 find like update. Would be probably through 2989 02:56:20,100 --> 02:56:23,700 fungible, dot dice Maven.com. I'm just keeping track of the 2990 02:56:23,700 --> 02:56:25,800 updates even though on the kickstarter because that's 2991 02:56:25,800 --> 02:56:28,600 right. Like where my head is most of 2992 02:56:29,400 --> 02:56:33,800 that and also working on redesigning the site. 2993 02:56:34,200 --> 02:56:41,500 So, but for socials at dice Maven on Twitter and stuff, I, 2994 02:56:42,100 --> 02:56:47,300 there's a good old Facebook page that sees a post once in a year. 2995 02:56:47,300 --> 02:56:52,000 Maybe, maybe I can. So a, but but we got a lot of 2996 02:56:52,008 --> 02:56:54,700 stuff coming out soon. So we'll be able to see more and 2997 02:56:54,700 --> 02:56:56,500 more of more and more of your stuff. 2998 02:56:56,600 --> 02:56:58,300 I'm very excited that you're excited for some other. 2999 02:56:58,300 --> 02:57:00,800 Thank you so much for having me on to chat about weird. 3000 02:57:00,800 --> 02:57:02,800 And why are ya? Well not only that. 3001 02:57:02,800 --> 02:57:05,800 I mean I think we'll probably you know, in the future after 3002 02:57:05,800 --> 02:57:07,900 some other stuff coming up, you're going to need to come on 3003 02:57:07,900 --> 02:57:09,400 as a guest and chat about that too. 3004 02:57:09,500 --> 02:57:13,600 So we will see how that goes. So this is a little preview with 3005 02:57:13,900 --> 02:57:16,000 Tom Allen AKA dice move in here on the show. 3006 02:57:16,200 --> 02:57:20,000 So we, if you've seen all of our socials, which are We been 3007 02:57:20,000 --> 02:57:22,400 scrolling above me the entire time our weekly scroll weekly, 3008 02:57:22,400 --> 02:57:24,100 unsure squirrel on Twitter. The adventure. 3009 02:57:24,100 --> 02:57:27,100 Archive dotnet is our website. We are the adventure archived on 3010 02:57:27,100 --> 02:57:29,900 YouTube and on Instagram, which I promise I'll update soon. 3011 02:57:29,900 --> 02:57:32,600 We are the weekly doubt scroll, check all that stuff out. 3012 02:57:33,000 --> 02:57:35,000 And that is the end of our show. Again, Tom, thank you so much, 3013 02:57:35,000 --> 02:57:36,400 Kirby. Thank you so much for coming on. 3014 02:57:36,400 --> 02:57:38,600 You guys. All have a wonderful day and 3015 02:57:38,600 --> 02:57:43,400 we'll see you next week Saturday again. 3016 02:57:43,400 --> 02:57:45,800 Well preview with mom. Probably Alex, do you like with 3017 02:57:45,800 --> 02:57:48,300 entertainment? So, have a wonderful day, 3018 02:57:48,400 --> 02:57:50,700 everybody. Be care.