1 00:00:15,150 --> 00:00:17,750 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scrolls Podcast. 2 00:00:17,750 --> 00:00:21,390 My name is Ryan. And I'm that guy with no hair. 3 00:00:22,750 --> 00:00:27,280 And I'm Jared. And, and today we are back for 4 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,040 another, no, not cat chats. We, we, we had to take a bit of 5 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,680 time off because life and shit happens. 6 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,480 But we're back. Jert's back. 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,120 We're going to catch up. We're going to talk about what's 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,800 going on. This is #14 I think 15 sure. 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,920 Yeah. Here we are. 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,560 How's everybody doing? Hanging down there. 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:53,080 Words can't describe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 12 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,120 We've actually, the entire show has been on a hiatus for most of 13 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,640 the past six weeks. I think we just started back up. 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,520 Was it this week? I think? 15 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,200 Yeah, I think, I think you've been doing stuff this week. 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Yeah, I've been school. I'm a, I'm a college girl now. 17 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,080 So been focusing on that. No. 18 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,080 And if you didn't notice we were on a break, it's because for 19 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,600 some reason right near the end, I had recorded so many episodes 20 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,920 that we had enough to cover a six week break with one still in 21 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,520 the chamber, just in case for the future. 22 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:27,200 But what about you, Jert? How is your October? 23 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,920 October was all right. We got a lot of things done here 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,440 and a lot of Debbie got a lot of fulfillment done for us and for 25 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:43,520 others and just in general, plan, catch up and ready, 26 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,440 getting ready for the end of the year. 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,160 Tax prep comes up soon. That's always the fun part of 28 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,480 small business. Sounds like a blast. 29 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,480 Oh, it's great. Yeah. 30 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,360 When you're a tax prep guy calls and says you're one of those 31 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,400 clients that needs a little bit of extra help with getting their 32 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,800 stuff together. So we're going to meet with you 33 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,759 in December instead of January. And I'm like, great, That's 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:10,600 that's great. Thanks, Bill. 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,560 I love my I love my tax prep guy, though, so he takes care of 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,160 us. You make sure my shit's done on 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,640 time, which is the important thing. 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,000 Very admirable. Yeah, don't want to run afoul of 39 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,480 the government. And if you don't have to. 40 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:32,920 Yeah, you really don't. So, well, very cool. 41 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,600 Ryan's looking for stuff I see I. 42 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,040 I'm trying my best to keep piles off the floor in the room. 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,960 So I had put all the books we're going to talk about away and I 44 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,040 specifically remembered I put Carnival in a specific spot so I 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,520 would remember where it was and I absolutely forget where it 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,640 was. I. 47 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,880 Forgot the specific spot. Yeah, that's, that's what we get 48 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,200 to. But we'll get to, we'll get to 49 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,080 the Space Penguin Inc releases here shortly. 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,800 But you know what we didn't talk about? 51 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,960 What we talked about before the show is how, how, how much this 52 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,840 year sucked, really. But I and I forgot to rock my 53 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,760 sumo shirt today. But you know, the last boss show 54 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:18,120 of the year is on right now. Last chance in 2025 to get in a 55 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,240 sumo jerk. I wish I could, man. 56 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,520 I wish I had the time. Yeah, yeah, I hear that. 57 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:31,400 When, when so so do you have a not busy time of the year as a 58 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,760 as a as a publisher? No, because we're always 59 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,560 publishing something. So it it just the way it works 60 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,600 out with our distribution arm is we have to keep making products 61 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,960 year round. Like this year, we, for 62 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,600 instance, we took August off and didn't put out a new release in 63 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,280 August, which was the first time in 2 1/2 years or so that we 64 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,320 hadn't done that. And it was refreshing. 65 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,400 It was a change. We still found plenty of work to 66 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,600 do that time. But now just the way the solicit 67 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,960 cycle works and working with so many people all over the world 68 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,080 and everything is just very delicately balanced. 69 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,680 So we're, we're constantly working. 70 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,000 We're actually, my birthday is next week, so we're actually 71 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,680 going to Warped Tour. So we're actually going to take 72 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,840 like 3, three days off and be out of the house, so that'll be 73 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,000 kind of fun. But for the most part, yeah, we 74 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,400 just take short little weekend trips and stuff like that. 75 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,440 Who are you looking forward to seeing a Warped Tour? 76 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,080 Amigo the Devil is about the only name on that whole list 77 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,440 that I know of. There's a big old list, but it's 78 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,960 a bunch of bands. Debbie knows more of them than I 79 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:52,240 do, but yeah, mostly just going just to be out of the house and 80 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,760 have something to do. And it's always good to 81 00:04:54,760 --> 00:05:02,120 experience live music and just see how bands perform when they 82 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,680 perform live. You never know, you might find 83 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,080 your newest favorite band, you know, amidst the festival. 84 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,400 I think there's like 100 or so bands playing or something like 85 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,760 that. It's pretty ridiculous. 86 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,440 Like this set up for this one. There's like 4 stages or five 87 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,040 stages or something. So we'll, we won't be bored that 88 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,440 that we'll definitely be, there'll definitely be plenty of 89 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,320 cool stuff to see and listen to and probably cool merch to look 90 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,880 at so. I think it's interesting as a 91 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,160 guy who grew up going to Orbitor, you know, I went to my 92 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,600 first one, first one in 8th grade, and I think it went to my 93 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,520 last one when I was like 20 or 21. 94 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,800 It's interesting because they used to have like 10 stages. 95 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,040 You know, they had the, they had, yeah, totally. 96 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,960 They would have two big stages or maybe some three big stages 97 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,440 and then like a ton of small stages. 98 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,640 So it's interesting they have less stages now. 99 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,560 That's so much gear, so, so much equipment to haul in and set up 100 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,800 for like, let alone one stage, but let alone being able to do 101 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,120 that for all of those stages. That's pretty impressive it. 102 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,840 Was like very. I mean, that's like a 103 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:09,760 notoriously chaotic day. Like they used to have this big 104 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,920 inflatable sign they'd put up that was all the set times and 105 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,720 bands wouldn't know when they played until that got inflated. 106 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,960 Nice. Yeah. 107 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,840 You got to go see Motion City Soundtrack while you're. 108 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:26,160 There, OK, You like them? I love Motion C soundtrack. 109 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,800 They've been around for quite a while and they headlined I think 110 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,080 the first Warped Tour I went to where they were on the mainstage 111 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,480 and I love them. I think they're a great band. 112 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,400 Cool. Yeah, they haven't. 113 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,000 Closed it up. Any list of like who's playing 114 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,080 where and what, Like I guess they just do it that day and 115 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,960 then you just find out. Good to see you. 116 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,200 They're holding to tradition, you know, right? 117 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,160 Yeah, I just threw up the list on stream here. 118 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,960 And man, I mean, it's interesting because I don't know 119 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,040 a lot of them, but I do know a lot of them, which surprises me 120 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,680 a bit. I've seen the day remember 10 121 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,760 times. I've seen three O 3 two or three 122 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,000 times. It's an all time low couple 123 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,400 times. August. 124 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Prince Red's a great man. Yeah, I like Carol's daughter. 125 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:19,240 There's Comeback Kid on here. Gosh, man. 126 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,720 There's some names like Flying in Reverse and Stuff From Ashes. 127 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,360 I don't know, Jim. Chiodos is going to be there 128 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,000 dude. The ultimate 3rd wave like scene 129 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,400 kid band Chiodos. Love that you know. 130 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,720 Head Automatica. Big fan, I really Love Actually. 131 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,400 Automatica's going to be there. Which is crazy, right? 132 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,840 That's the one that really stuck out to me. 133 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Really. Yeah, Kill Switch is going to be 134 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,240 there. Kim Dracula. 135 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,760 Man this did be interesting to know. 136 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,240 Motionless and White freaking Pennywise since his fail is 137 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,400 going to be at Warp Tour 2025 and it's. 138 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,360 Crazy. A classic. 139 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,240 That's a classic Warp tour band. Right, I think the first time I 140 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,080 saw since his fail was had a warp tour. 141 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,760 Wow, what else? We're almost at the bottom of 142 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,640 the list here. Red Justin St. 143 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,080 Like Thursday the. What? 144 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,840 No. Thursday and yellow card are are 145 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,360 going to be this really is. Honestly, I've recently been 146 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,160 there's a lot of record shops in town and I've been hunting 147 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,560 through them for some Thursday records or vinyls because I love 148 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,520 Thursday and I think they're great. 149 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,240 The Devil Wears Prada is going to be there too, which is one of 150 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,880 my favorite of that style of metal bands. 151 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Now this is a good this is. There's some good stuff. 152 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,280 Thursday's going to be there. Dude, that's crazy. 153 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,679 Royal and the Serpent is actually really interesting too. 154 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,840 I don't know how. MGK, you got to go check out 155 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,440 him. Oh God, I see Machine Gun Kelly. 156 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Hey, you watch. See, MGK sucks at every genre of 157 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,040 music that he makes. He'll be there there. 158 00:08:53,680 --> 00:08:58,320 You go all right, I mean, so that's dope. 159 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,080 I mean, that is a really that is not the lineup I expected at 160 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,760 work for 2025, but that is actually a really dope lineup. 161 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,600 And especially since I don't know so many of them, it'd be 162 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,960 cool to see to see a lot of them. 163 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,200 But man, there are a lot of bands that I really definitely 164 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,600 go see. It's a very 2008 lineup, you 165 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,280 know it. Really is like, it's definitely 166 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,760 like an early mid 2000s lineup, huh? 167 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,720 Well, that's fucking dope. I'm excited for you, Jert. 168 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,560 Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm excited to see what happens. 169 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,000 There's some really great. Really. 170 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,200 And Gore will be there, so I'm definitely excited about seeing 171 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,200 Gore. Is going to be there. 172 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,600 Yeah, they're actually. They still do the Four Fine 173 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,880 show. Yeah, they still do the big show 174 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,760 there and there's they're playing somewhere near there 175 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,080 like the night before as well. So I think they're probably 176 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,080 playing on Sunday. If they're if they're playing 177 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,040 Friday, they're probably playing there is. 178 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,360 It Oh, it's a 2 day thing, no. It's, it's Saturday and Sunday, 179 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,760 yeah. Oh, back in the day it was a one 180 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,080 day thing right? Makes sense when they have less 181 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,520 sages. Now you know. 182 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,240 Right. That's so crazy. 183 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,840 That's such a crazy lineup that you could see like Thursday 184 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,600 followed by Kim Dracula followed by Gwar. 185 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,160 That was why you were so cool, you know? 186 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Like you could see a bunch of like, like on the alternative 187 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,400 end of bands. Like, they're all fairly 188 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,600 different, you know? I was genuinely worried and I 189 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,360 don't know what it looks like in person, but this was that that 190 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,120 warped door had just become like the Alt Bonnaroo. 191 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,160 But. Outside of MGK like I, this is 192 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,120 interesting. I I fucking hate Bonnaroo dudes 193 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,920 don't make me go in on the two years I went to Bonnaroo. 194 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,840 Fuck Bonnaroo. Bro Bono back in the day though, 195 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,800 when it was bands like freaking Dispatch and stuff like you 196 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,520 know, it was great and then it that's not when I. 197 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,200 Went so it. Got gentrified as fuck by by by 198 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,240 white girls in bikinis and and and headdresses, you know? 199 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,440 So anyway, so that sounds fun as fuck. 200 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,880 I'm excited for you. Yeah, it's going to be fun. 201 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,680 Hopefully we have a good time at the At the worst we'll be out of 202 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,200 the office for a few days, which would be pretty nice. 203 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,720 Be able to chill out, not think about work as much. 204 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,920 I would say not think about work at all, but that's not the case. 205 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,280 I'm always thinking about possible. 206 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,080 But I hope they still have the the free Monster Energy tent and 207 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,640 then you can go load up on monster energies, you know? 208 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,560 Right, because that's what I need with my anxiety. 209 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,280 Yeah, one year when we went, my buddy rode with me and the whole 210 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,640 day he only drank Monster Energy. 211 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,640 And it's also like, it was in July in Texas as well. 212 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,200 And so the next day, he was so unbelievably sick. 213 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,680 He like, couldn't get out of bed. 214 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,160 And I was like, yeah, that that makes sense, you know? 215 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,480 That's what happens when you drink energy drink all day. 216 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,200 You don't need that much fucking taurine. 217 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,240 And. Yeah, in the burning hot sun 218 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,000 instead of water, you know. I bet, I bet he definitely 219 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,520 didn't get a cute kid injury, you know? 220 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:02,440 Like. Everything was totally fine with 221 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,080 his insides. Yeah, let's but, yeah. 222 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,960 And and we got packs coming up. But you're not going to packs 223 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,240 this year, right? Right, we're skipping packs this 224 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,480 year. Yeah, I'm very sad about that. 225 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:20,320 Understandable, but sorry it it'd be cool to see you again 226 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,880 when what's the next con you're hitting up that's. 227 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:31,520 I'll be doing Gary Conn and March in Lake Geneva, so and 228 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,240 we'll probably be running some work Borg Ink Vein, which is a 229 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,120 book that we're going to be taking to crowdfunding in March 230 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,320 by the Merc Dice Gang, Luke and Lindsay. 231 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,360 So yeah, more about that on a future episode once we're doing 232 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,000 the whole promo hype cycle for that one. 233 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:54,920 We'll be here, yeah. We'll be doing this, I'll 234 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,120 probably be running a couple of short like 2 hour games of that 235 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,120 and the usual helping out with Dog Storm and just hanging out 236 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,440 and having a good time. So and then we'll be doing Gen. 237 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,120 Con because we always do Gen. Con, which is good fun. 238 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,400 And then we might be back at packs next year. 239 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,880 When it's not the week before fucking Thanksgiving. 240 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,880 Right. Yeah, yeah. 241 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,680 Yeah, I'm supposed to go to pax and booth with Adam a world 242 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,160 champ again. But considering the state of the 243 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,880 FAA in the shutdown, that is not going to end. 244 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,720 We'll we'll see if my flight actually goes through. 245 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:39,640 I have a very early flight, so I'm hoping that they let all the 246 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,720 early ones go through when it's not very busy and cancel like 247 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,600 stuff in the middle when it is really busy. 248 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,240 But I guess I guess we'll see. And I'm, I'm hoping in my head 249 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,200 now that I got the interns for my Airbnb, but I feel like I 250 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,760 probably didn't. So that would be you. 251 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,960 Always road trip it, you know. Yeah, I'll just road trip from 252 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,280 California to Philadelphia on like the one extra day I have 253 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,000 off of work. Spending 24 hours driving. 254 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,520 Yeah, You know, if I had someone else that was going to go that 255 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,960 would do that. Fuck it, I would. 256 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,200 I actually think I get, I think I'm off from the 17th and I 257 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,320 don't need to be there till the 19th. 258 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,040 So I could start the 16th and get 3 days. 259 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,040 You can cross the country in three days if you drive a day. 260 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,520 Yeah, yeah. Hey, listen, if flights get 261 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,680 cancelled and you're driving from California to Philadelphia, 262 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,080 hit me up on road trip. You're going to get hit by a 263 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,120 real weirdo disappearance of Ryan. 264 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,360 If I know you, if we're mutual and if you don't know what that 265 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:47,560 means, we're not. But but yeah, I mean, again, I 266 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,640 don't think I'm going to Jerichon or Gen. 267 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,000 Con, but hopefully you go to PAX and maybe we'll meet at one of 268 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,680 the smaller ones or them too. You always talk about these like 269 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,720 fun little like like stuff in Florida and stuff like that. 270 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,560 That sounds dope as hell though. If you want to bounce down for 271 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,560 something like that, that'd be. Cool. 272 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,240 Yeah, we do Quest Con Orlando and it's pretty fun. 273 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,560 It's a smaller show. It's a lot slower than any of 274 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,760 the shows that you've been to, but it's fun to go to. 275 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,280 Yeah, I like I definitely after going to Gen. 276 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,200 Con, I definitely realized that I I like smaller shows. 277 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:28,360 I definitely want I enjoyed like PAX, I thought is like a great 278 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,160 size. It gets big enough that it's, 279 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,160 you know, got a lot. But, you know, I still felt like 280 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,800 I could talk to everybody. I wanted to see it. 281 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,080 PAX, you know, Right. Yeah, but we'll see. 282 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,280 I'm sure I'll talk about PAX for a month on the show after, just 283 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,520 like we did with Gen. Cod. 284 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,320 I remember like I just every episode I did for like a month 285 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,600 and a half, I was like, Indianapolis was so clean. 286 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:56,080 But yeah, so space hanging ink. We didn't talk last month, but 287 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,160 some new stuff did come out, one of which I was able to find and 288 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,560 the other one is in here. It's in that it's in there I 289 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,680 need to find. Wait, my stuff's not packed 290 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,440 still, so maybe it's not? But tell, tell, tell us about 291 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,560 the new, the new, new. Which one do you want to do 292 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:14,880 first? The one you do have or the one 293 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,280 you don't. Let's go with the one that I do 294 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,080 have, because I think I might remember where the old one is. 295 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,320 This nice, nice color on the front. 296 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Yeah. Yeah, it's really great. 297 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,240 G did a really great job on the art. 298 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,360 Stella did a fantastic job on art direction and writing and 299 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:35,400 layout as she always does. So the door in Murex Canyon is a 300 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,480 hex crawl. It's dual status for Karen and 301 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:47,360 basic expert like BXDNDOSE and it's got illustrations by G 302 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:54,320 Gilrain in here and all written and designed by Stella as you 303 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,360 know, gust of regular guest of the show, friend of the show. 304 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,960 So it's got that stellar weirdness to it got a nice 305 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,880 little loot the body table on the back that kind of tells you 306 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:13,280 so roll like AD 20 or two D12. So it's there's things like 307 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,480 sound at crystal ring deflects 50% of cyanic attacks stray 308 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,000 consciousness trapped inside as punishment for long ago crime. 309 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:26,720 Only espers can hear it. So you get this ring that will 310 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,400 save you 50% of the time, but it's also got a stray 311 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,000 consciousness inside there that's going to try to mess with 312 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,480 you, especially if you're scionic yourself. 313 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,160 Nice. That's pretty cool, yeah. 314 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,120 Stella's actually going to be on the show on Tuesday, I think, to 315 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:45,560 talk. Oh nice. 316 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,560 Yeah, so you can get a little bit more. 317 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,680 Talking about Von Hind Manor. Yeah, talking about Murex a bit, 318 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,320 talking about Von Hein, talking about new Eastlake stuff that's 319 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,880 coming out. So really excited to chat with 320 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:04,520 with her about that. But but so we'll, we'll double 321 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,240 up on this, but tell, tell us about tell us about the door in 322 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,440 Murex Canyon. Like what? 323 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,120 What? What craziness did she come up 324 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:15,440 with this time? So there's your basic travel 325 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,160 procedures and stuff like that inside, and then there's about 326 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,680 getting lost. And it's a it's handheld, but 327 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,160 the blurb on the back is I'm just going to read it because 328 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,200 it's easier to for me to read it. 329 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,920 Eras ago, a nameless empire needed more. 330 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,000 Soon their need forever more expansive and ever more resource 331 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,880 hungry factories was butting up against a monumental problem 332 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,680 geography itself. It was not worth it to level an 333 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,080 entire mountain range for a factory, so the factories grew 334 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,320 upwards in a Gordian knot until it was so bad something had to 335 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,480 be done. The Imperial may just had a 336 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,880 simple plan. If the world had outgrown its 337 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,760 usefulness, simply leave it behind and move their industry 338 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,040 to a pocket dimension fueled by hyperbolic space-time. 339 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,960 Once they there, they could build out as much as they wish 340 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,760 and and on an entirely clean slate plan to perfection to 341 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,160 create the ultimate factory. And so they did. 342 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,800 So it's this factory inside so you during the crawl itself. 343 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,320 Like spoilers for those who are listening, the hex crawl takes 344 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:26,680 place across this desert and then you actually find the door 345 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,600 and then you actually go into the place. 346 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,920 So and then there's a big ass factory inside the pocket 347 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,720 dimension. Very cool. 348 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:39,960 That's very cool. That's very cool, Yeah. 349 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,440 And if you if you've read anything from Stella, you know 350 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,520 that not only is it is it good, it's always going to be weird. 351 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:51,600 So if you're down for good weird, I definitely highly 352 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,800 recommend grabbing everything they've done, including I don't 353 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,640 know if we talked, did we talk about it too that the the the 354 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,000 newest red solstice also dropped recently as well? 355 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,720 Yes. That happened last month as 356 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:08,280 well, and that has all all kinds of new tables and various and 357 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,960 sundry articles and stuff like that. 358 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,120 I edited that a while ago, so I've kind of forgotten what was 359 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,320 in it. So it's always a treat when 360 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,480 someone brings it up and you're like, what's the oh look, you 361 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,760 found Carnival? I put it with Stella's stuff 362 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,400 because I knew what we'd need, Stella's stuff, and I just 363 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,640 didn't go one more back. So I do have Murex, I do have 364 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,800 Carnival, but here is Red solstice #6. 365 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:38,600 Yes. And I've still got to ask Stella 366 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,440 and I'm going to ask her on stream why the years are all, is 367 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,280 this the year that it got started? 368 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,360 Because this is winter 2024 and it definitely came out in like 369 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:51,560 summer of 2025. So I'm always curious what what 370 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,880 the denomination or what. What's going on? 371 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,360 So it's they're supposed to come out on the solstices and that 372 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:00,480 one just got delayed. Got it. 373 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,520 See, that makes sense. Yeah, that does. 374 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 375 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,280 And I like the back to it says want to submit an article, make 376 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,800 sure it's usable. Whether there be advice, 377 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,320 adventures, tables or best practices. 378 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,400 Just make sure it's something you can use in a game. 379 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Submit a link via submissions at red sources. dot zone. 380 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:27,080 No whole games, no cops, right? Yeah, pretty straightforward. 381 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:33,160 I mean, words to live by, but yeah, Dorn Mirick's Canyon. 382 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,640 Like I said, we're going to we're going to have cell on the 383 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,880 show Tuesday. We'll dig a little bit deeper 384 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:45,280 into into this, but we also have another one that I just found we 385 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,440 got. Colonel by Josh Domansky. 386 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,480 Colonel, I had not even I don't even remember if we talked about 387 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,760 this before, because usually I know stuff that's coming out. 388 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,680 But then when I saw this, I was just like, oh shit, this is Josh 389 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,560 Domanski. I can't imagine that he's not so 390 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,720 busy right now. That's why I was so surprised. 391 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,720 I was like, isn't he like up to his eyeballs and and little 392 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:16,840 hoard deluxe still But but what's going on from from Josh 393 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,280 at vaulted pyramids? So on the back we've got a town 394 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,400 of Forest, the dungeon. It's got your your carnival has 395 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,840 come to town situation outside of the city. 396 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,200 And it details all of the cool games that you can play like 397 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,240 squirrel smack and bottle toss and you know, the usual test of 398 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,320 strength and things like that. And then it's got a bit about 399 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:49,680 villagers and then it's got the section about the town earlier. 400 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:54,320 So it's all super, super simple, bare bones. 401 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,560 It's meant to be kind of like just dropped in as you're 402 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,920 traveling across and maybe they happen to stop there for the day 403 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,120 or for the night. And Oh no, the carnival happens 404 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:06,480 to be in town. And then there's some weird shit 405 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,920 that goes on with the carnival and the ringmaster and stuff 406 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,560 like that. I love that. 407 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,720 Yeah, sick. And then, and if anything's to 408 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,360 go by the touchstones on the back or some fantastic fucking 409 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:20,840 stuff like Demon Driven to the Mall from Bad Kerr, Winter's 410 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,280 Daughter, Trophy Loom, the entire, I guess the entire book. 411 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,680 Butter Princess from Brian Sago, Labyrinth from Dennis Lee and 412 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,280 Jim Henson, Caring evil from Midway games and then a bunch of 413 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,040 tropes. But man, Demon Driven to the 414 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,960 mall, I think I have that in because Brad Kurst put that out 415 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,360 in multiple systems and I'm pretty positive I have all of 416 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:42,680 them. But between that winner's 417 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,040 daughter and trophy like that, those are those are some 418 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,800 touchstones I could definitely get behind. 419 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,880 So I'm really, really interesting and curious about 420 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,000 that. At some point, maybe we'll do 421 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,600 APS to get on the show. Maybe we can get Josh to hop 422 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:02,080 into this a little bit. But yeah, so how so how did 423 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,640 that? Always curious, especially with 424 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,840 people you know and people you published before. 425 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,480 Like Josh, for example, was Josh when, when someone's approaching 426 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,400 you to, to publish a material, if it's someone you published 427 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,440 before, can they just be like, hey, I got a new thing, want to 428 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,120 check it out? Like, how does that process work 429 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:24,160 versus someone who you might not know that might be just like 430 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,680 shooting you an e-mail for the first time or something? 431 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,120 Sure. If it's someone I don't know, I 432 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:30,960 usually set up a meeting because I like to meet the people that I 433 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,400 want to that I'm going to work with. 434 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,880 And then we talk and we just have some basic parameters. 435 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,440 You know, I usually do a proofreading pass or an editing 436 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,680 pass on the final thing before we send it out and stuff like 437 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,800 that. If it's someone I've worked with 438 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,200 before, they pretty much just say, hey, I've got this thing 439 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,160 and it's for this system. And then I look on the calendar 440 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,080 where we can slide it in and then we go from there. 441 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,160 If it's someone new, we take a little bit different time 442 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,360 because some people it's their first project that they've ever 443 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:05,000 done before. Some people they're old hats and 444 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,640 they just want to publish a thing. 445 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,040 So we got to it Just, it really just depends. 446 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,960 But it's just as you know, a short series of meetings, 447 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,000 whether it's via text or video chat or whatever. 448 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,200 With new people, I like to meet them by a video chat so I can 449 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,440 kind of get an idea of what they're about and what they're 450 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,600 like and stuff like that going forward, and then kind of see 451 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,800 what cool shit they can create. Nice. 452 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,880 So, so when, when Josh, you know, obviously you guys work 453 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,520 with him just a little bit, you know, with a little more deluxe 454 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,760 thing that we've talked about like every month for the past 455 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,800 like 6 months. If Josh is just like, hey, I 456 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,280 wrote a thing, we good. Are you just like, yeah, hit the 457 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,120 button and then it's out? Yeah, pretty much that's what 458 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:53,520 happened with Karen of all because it was it's for Karen, 459 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:58,240 which where the publishers of the Cairn box set right now. 460 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,880 So that's out there in the wild. We need to support the products 461 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:07,080 that we're sending to distro and having available for retail. 462 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,120 So it just made sense for us to put it out 100%. 463 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,880 Plus, I like the way Josh writes. 464 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:17,040 Yeah. Yeah, very much agreed. 465 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:19,120 I like just pretty much all of Josh. 466 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,360 I like the way he talks, too. I'm a big fan of that. 467 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,200 I wish I had the podcast voice of Josh Domanski. 468 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:30,320 Yeah, me too. But yeah, I mean, Josh has has 469 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,480 done fantastic work for for so long. 470 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,400 I mean, I honestly think the first thing I ever read from 471 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,080 Josh was probably like Zed and two knots like way back in the 472 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,360 day. And then the bloom and from just 473 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,840 from Zed and two knots plus that like Andrew Walter R on the 474 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,800 cover. I was just like, Yep, this is 475 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,120 this is someone I'll get like all of their stuff for. 476 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:54,200 So that's cool match made in heaven. 477 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,920 But again, everyone you work with is is fantastic and not 478 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,600 just in what they do, but like who they are. 479 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,880 And that's one of the things that it's the reason we have 480 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,680 space Penguin Inc and not cat chats every month on the chokes. 481 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,280 Not only use dirt Awesome, but all the people he works with, 482 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,360 they're awesome, you know, and it makes it super easy to 483 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,360 support people that you don't need to worry about some of the 484 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:17,680 things they've done or. Said or the people. 485 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,520 That they're associated with, right, which is, which is really 486 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,960 cool to know that that's not something we ever have to worry 487 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,000 about. So so that's cool. 488 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,000 Red solstice 6. For those that might not know 489 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,840 what red solstice one through 5 are, what is I guess the red 490 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,800 solstice in like a quick pitch? It's a cornucopia or a brick, A 491 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,000 brack, whichever way you want to look at it, of all kinds of 492 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,160 stuff for all kinds of systems. So there's stuff as simple as 493 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,320 like D10 tables and stuff, and then there's like full on like 494 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,680 adventure locations, there's magic subsystems, all kinds of 495 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,880 really cool, neat stuff. And it's for all systems. 496 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,400 And it's written by a bunch of different people. 497 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:11,400 Comes out twice a year usually. On on the Solstice, which which 498 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:18,160 makes sense that it is the winter Solstice edition and 499 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,600 that's cool. And again, you know, Stella 500 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,800 Contrary puts that together. So we'll dig into that a little 501 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,120 bit more on I think, I think it's Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday, 502 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:27,720 It's in the calendar. I'll I'll be there. 503 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,920 But so are those all the releases that came out last? 504 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,480 Month and we also released the Ghost of Zoa's on a Mountain to 505 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,960 the general public. Right. 506 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,360 This one was crowdfunded and fulfilled a while back, but this 507 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,360 was actually just released. This is by Thomas Buconan and 508 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,240 it's for Old School Essentials. And it's beautifully, 509 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,480 wonderfully fully illustrated cover. 510 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,680 Sorry, color, color book all the way throughout. 511 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,120 It's a really impressive Tour de force. 512 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,440 Essentially, one man put this whole thing together with a 513 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,160 little bit of help. Yeah. 514 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:14,480 And the Kickstarter backers got that cool pamphlet that has this 515 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,440 is the sellers, right? Yes, it's the sellers. 516 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,400 Yes, yes, yes, yes. We got the tunnel, we got the 517 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,520 spiders layer, we got the brewery and we got the Chapel on 518 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,960 on here. Yes, yeah. 519 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,880 And again, yeah, the illustrations, I mean, can you? 520 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,960 I love the cover of that book, it sells. 521 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,280 Fire. I love the. 522 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,880 Yes, the font is fantastic. But vibes for days, vibes for 523 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,320 absolute days in this one. This suddenly speaks to my 524 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,520 little black heart. There's so much just incredible 525 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,960 layout, incredible illustrations, and then just the 526 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,320 the actual adventure itself is it's pretty dark. 527 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,280 Like it, it gets it gets it gets it gets there. 528 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,520 Yep. Yep. 529 00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:18,230 But so that's everything that came out last month. 530 00:30:18,270 --> 00:30:20,630 Do we have what's coming? What's what's what's going on 531 00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:23,710 this month? Coming out next week is Under 532 00:30:23,710 --> 00:30:27,110 the Skin. It's in boxes in the other room. 533 00:30:27,390 --> 00:30:30,470 It's for Mothership. It's a short 1 written by 534 00:30:31,470 --> 00:30:39,160 Carrick Daniel who did VR Dead. It's a short Zine for Mothership 535 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:45,320 that he did and a short little nice little short scenario. 536 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,600 We'll cover it next month. That's fine, mostly because it 537 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,040 just arrived the other day and I didn't have time to do a quick 538 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,200 enough turn around and send them out to you guys. 539 00:30:55,200 --> 00:31:00,640 So not bad on that one. I've. 540 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,600 Been moving anyway so. Right. 541 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,920 It would have gone to the wrong address, yeah. 542 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,280 You know, it's funny, I have a that big I always have a box of 543 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,000 syndrome every now and then. I almost sent it out the other 544 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,560 day and I completely, like my head completely forgot that you 545 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,840 moved. So I'm glad I didn't go there. 546 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,520 I mean, you probably would have got eventually, but. 547 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,160 Yeah, I'm, I'm still walking by. I I'm in the same complex. 548 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,520 I moved to a smaller unit, so I'm still, I walk by that one 549 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,840 often to see if there are any packages in the front door. 550 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,800 I hope I caught everything. I'm sure I probably did. 551 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,200 Can I tell you, I moved kind of like the height when I was 552 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,040 backing way too many fucking kick starters. 553 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,960 It's a pain in the ass now, especially now that there's even 554 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,720 more pledge managers to remember to go back and like update all 555 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,560 of the addresses. I lost like 3 or 4 things 556 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,040 because for a little bit the people that moved into there, I 557 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,600 guess we're like giving it to the, the front desk. 558 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,520 But eventually they just like stopped and I would reach out 559 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,000 and they'd be like, Nope, sorry. So they were tossing them or 560 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,600 keeping them but I probably got a good like 5 plus Kickstarter 561 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,840 packages that I never got because I I moved. 562 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,040 That's not when I moved from Texas to Oregon. 563 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,280 I'm like, yeah, there's like two or three or four projects that 564 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,200 are just like, yeah, I've never, I've never seen those, yeah. 565 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,680 Well, so we got to back less projects, but what else? 566 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,240 What else? So we'll we'll talk about that 567 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,040 next month, but what else we got? 568 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,800 What else does Space Penguin cook in for the end of the year? 569 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,360 Not much. We've got Hang the DJ, which is 570 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,000 a Cyborg adventure coming out in December. 571 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,680 That one goes to print this week and that one's by Ruiz Carter. 572 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,520 He did Distress Signals and Dead in the Water, so he's branching 573 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,720 out and trying different systems and stuff like that. 574 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,120 So that one, looking forward to getting that out there. 575 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:57,440 And then what is our January? Let me double check what my 576 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:07,760 January solicit. It was January's hang the DJ. 577 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,480 What's December? I'm forgetting one for December. 578 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,480 Oh, Hope is for the dead, which we've already talked about while 579 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,160 it was crowdfunding, but we'll talk about again in December. 580 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,040 Hope is for the dead, the forbidden Psalm zombies. 581 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:31,200 You should have that. Yeah, that one goes out in that 582 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,760 one comes out in December for general release. 583 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,320 It's available now from Will's store in the UK and it'll be 584 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,040 available from us in December in the US and Canada. 585 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:51,160 So it's it's really hard. There's a little insert card 586 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:58,040 that came with it because a lot of folks were saying that it was 587 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,280 pretty hard to begin with, even though it was extensively play 588 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,160 tested by Will as he was writing it. 589 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,160 So we put in some rules to make it to alter the difficulty 590 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,639 settings a little bit to make it either easier or harder if you 591 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:14,159 felt it was too easy. But we got a couple of couple of 592 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,639 spots of feedback that it was a little rough. 593 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,440 So there is a noise mechanic which makes sense for a zombie 594 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,639 situation. If you make more noise, you're 595 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:25,560 going to draw more attention to yourselves. 596 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,320 Right, logical. And so it definitely, it makes, 597 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,480 it ends up the scenarios end up as you're rating the police 598 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,199 station or you're rating the grocery store or wherever you're 599 00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,719 going to get your supplies and things like that, like you run 600 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,159 the risk of attracting way more zombies than you can handle. 601 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,280 So that noise step is definitely something to be aware of if 602 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,880 you're playing and playing it solo. 603 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,480 If it's a little rough, there's there's that card and digitally 604 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:02,440 that it's included with the packet so that you can alter the 605 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,800 difficulty settings a little bit. 606 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:07,320 Yeah. And listen, that's great to 607 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,280 have. And in my mind, I was like, I 608 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,360 thought one thing and immediately like Devil's 609 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,240 advocated myself to the other way. 610 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:16,960 Probably if, if it's a zombie game and you're going to die, 611 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,320 just die. That's the way the intent of the 612 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,960 game is to be played. But then I also realized that 613 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,360 especially when I play video games, I never do the hardest 614 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,800 mode because like I want to play the game. 615 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,040 And if if all I wanted to do was be frustrated the entire time, I 616 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,640 would find joyment in something else. 617 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,160 So that's dope. I'm glad that I'm glad that that 618 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,600 came out. Then if it really is that much 619 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,960 more difficult than some of the other games. 620 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,840 And that's cool for the people that want to take it maybe a 621 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,040 little bit more casually. Yeah. 622 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,760 But that's dope. And then I again, we'll talk 623 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,120 about it a little bit later. But I of course I had to get the 624 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,800 hardcover and the softcover, both of which are dope. 625 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,640 But we'll talk about that a little something I'm working 626 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,800 with, a little something with Will that maybe we'll see the 627 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,840 light of day one day. So I'm excited for that some 628 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,000 point. But very cool, very cool. 629 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,240 Yeah, he's right. Now he's working on legitimate 630 00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:07,680 salvage slash Project Mara, which is a space themed 631 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,920 forbidden song. So he's been putting in some 632 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,320 hours turn that around and he's been doing the usual thing he 633 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,120 always does where he's working with a bunch of other creators 634 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,600 and stuff like that, creating small forbidden Psalm 635 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,160 attachments for their crowd funds and stuff like that. 636 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,960 So. As well as his his big giant 637 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,640 project that he's got done and. Run From the Dark is live right 638 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:35,120 now on Kickstarter. Did you get one of the sample 639 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,320 copies? Did did you get? 640 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,040 I got one of the sample copies. I did not. 641 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,600 I did not get 1 yet, but I'm going to be getting one because 642 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,600 I have to weigh it to see how much because we're going to be 643 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,840 handling fulfillment for it. I was, I was pretty bummed that 644 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,240 mine is great and of course I backed it so I can get another 645 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:53,680 one. But see how there's low wrinkle, 646 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:55,600 low wrinkleage happening right here. 647 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,280 I. Don't know. 648 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,440 The one day it rained in like 4 months in California was of 649 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,080 course the day that this arrived. 650 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:09,360 And my postman is usually really great about sticking it under 651 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,440 the dry part of my porch, but he wasn't. 652 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,600 Literally dropped it right on the middle of the front porch in 653 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,440 a puddle. So I'll let you know those from 654 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,120 podcast land. If this is the same cover you 655 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,760 get, it's pretty damn water resistant because the only 656 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,680 reason this entire thing isn't completely waterlogged is 657 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:30,440 because the the this dust jacket got like held off almost all of 658 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,440 the water. So aside from a little bit that 659 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,360 soaked in kind of through the edges in the middle and the side 660 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,280 over here, the book itself, perfect condition. 661 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,920 Didn't get a drop of water on it even though it's set in the rain 662 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,520 in a puddle for like 10 hours. So it's always good. 663 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,240 That's a feature. You know it's a water jacket 664 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:52,320 instead of a dust jacket. Bro, it's it works. 665 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,280 I it it, it did the job and I mean, you'll get some stuff, but 666 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,760 that's my other dope stuff as well. 667 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,600 So excited for that. Did you say you're doing the 668 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,800 fulfillment for this project as well? 669 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,040 Yes, we're handling fulfillment for it as well. 670 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,360 Yeah, so this is a dope one. We can definitely talk about 671 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,680 this. We got to get Will on and maybe 672 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:15,080 do like a sure hope is for the dead and roam through the dark 673 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,160 kind of like crossover again here on you're on because I have 674 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,200 this. This overlay is just like the 675 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,800 default overlay in this stream because you're on so much. 676 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,760 But there is a will version of this anytime you decide to wants 677 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,960 to hop in. So so that's always cool. 678 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,680 So a lot of stuff we got a lot. This is the big this is the big 679 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,000 catch up episode here talking about all the stuff there's 680 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,720 space paying when he is doing and you said we'll talk about it 681 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:45,160 in the future episode. But do you have is, is the next 682 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,480 big crowdfund you guys going to do the OR the next crowdfund in 683 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,040 general the the Merkburg one that you were talking about? 684 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:56,280 Yeah, ink thing and that one's coming out that's going to be 685 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,120 that one is there's going to be a 20 page quick start that comes 686 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,920 out with that to try to tantalize people to to jump in. 687 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,920 It's going to be digital only, but that one's going to be going 688 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,200 to promo and marketing pretty soon. 689 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,320 It's being worked on right now, so pretty going to be pretty 690 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,920 happy with that. One's going to be a big one that 691 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,720 might be up to like 300 pages. So it's going to be a big and 692 00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:23,280 it's going to be like a royal size. 693 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,280 So it's going to kind of be similar size to run from the 694 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,480 dark with a little bit just kind of a big chunkier boy. 695 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,920 So yeah. Yeah, I need another. 696 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,720 Bookshelf. Bro, bro. 697 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,920 Yeah, because Run from the Dark ain't a small book. 698 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,320 I mean, if you compare it to, you know, Hope is for the Dead, 699 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,760 that's a big book. That's a lot of book. 700 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,680 A lot more real estate for all that wonderful art, yeah. 701 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,080 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, especially gosh, the 702 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:59,480 artwork in again, a little quick flash, the artwork in Hope the 703 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,920 Dead is insane. So I'm sorry, Run from the Dark 704 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,760 is insane. So. 705 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,320 Well, that's cool. And you said that's March, 706 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,120 you're doing that. Yes, that'll be crowdfunding in 707 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,280 March. So we got we got plenty of time 708 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,600 to do that. We can talk about the quick 709 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:19,280 start in the future too. And then so we talk about it 710 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,360 every month. How's how's Liminal Horde Deluxe 711 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,600 coming along? Where are we at? 712 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,000 It's it's coming along very well. 713 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:31,920 We're getting close to the end. Einflung was released for 714 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,400 Halloween and some people ran it. 715 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:38,640 We got some positive feedback on that one. 716 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:44,240 That's a little starter scenario, starter adventure, and 717 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,840 the actual main book itself is rounding the bin. 718 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,080 It should be headed my way fairly soon for final checks and 719 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,080 then it should be going to print at the very end or beginning of 720 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,960 the year. So and then going to fulfill it 721 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:01,520 within a year, which is our goal. 722 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,680 So it's awesome. How long? 723 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,080 So once a book is all ready to go and hits print, how long does 724 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,360 that usually take? About 3 months. 725 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,320 Gotcha. Just depends on where we print 726 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,760 it. So where do you guys usually 727 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,600 print like or just what country? Well, we print in the United 728 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,120 States, we print in the UK and we print in China. 729 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,960 Gotcha. Now obviously tariffs are going 730 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,480 to affect some of that stuff, but does Chinese New Year's ever 731 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:29,560 come into play? Is that a thing that. 732 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,760 Always, yes, pretty much during that period of time, that couple 733 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,560 of weeks there, you know the everyone's off over there. 734 00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:42,000 So communication is sporadic. They'll still get back to you 735 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,280 about stuff, but we usually try to have everything printed and 736 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,600 shipped before that so that it's on the way during that time. 737 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,920 Nice, which is the goal. Well, it would be nice to just 738 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,760 if the whole country just got a couple weeks off. 739 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,000 Yeah, great. Yeah, well, if the if the 740 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,120 government keeps going the way it is right now, I think a lot 741 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,800 of people are going to have a lot more time off. 742 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,960 Maybe not in in a very good way, but. 743 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,760 Yeah, that's a rough one. We'll we'll see how it goes. 744 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,640 But but jerk, super glad to have you back on. 745 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,240 Hopefully we'll be able to get more consistent with this. 746 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:21,240 I'm glad that we were able to get our schedules together, 747 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,640 especially with Hunter doing so much stuff. 748 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,360 We're going to have a lot more. We're not more. 749 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,880 We're there is going to be a bunch of episodes coming up 750 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,480 where that Hunter isn't. How do I say this really? 751 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,400 I'm saying they're super wheelie. 752 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,160 Hunter's going to Hunter's super busy. 753 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,680 He's got work. He's got a bunch of other stuff 754 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,880 going on. He's got school. 755 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,640 Yeah, schoolboy here. We said it's. 756 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,160 Mostly school. I had two jobs in school, so. 757 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,520 Yeah, so we're going to have some other guests coming on. 758 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,360 Me and Jared have already talked about coming on and doing like a 759 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,520 like an older, an older game, quote UN quote and just chatting 760 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,640 about some stuff. So expect some episodes like 761 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,680 that coming up where we're going to have a bunch of guests. 762 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,520 No one can replace Hunter, but I'm going to. 763 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,400 I'm going to. I'm going to do my best to give 764 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,400 you guys. Entertainment. 765 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,760 That Hunter would otherwise provide, so it won't be as. 766 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,320 Bad as me, that's for sure. So. 767 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,200 No, or as pretty, but we'll we'll try. 768 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,680 But dirt, it's it's been an absolute pleasure. 769 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,600 Again, expect dirt to come on every month that we can going 770 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,960 forward and and maybe for another special episode here 771 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,800 soon. And yeah, thanks so much, as 772 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,400 always, for being cool. Thank you. 773 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,600 Thanks for going to talk about all the cool shit. 774 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't wait for next month. 775 00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,000 We will see you all later, everybody. 776 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,400 Bye. Bye.