1 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,000 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll Podcast. 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,000 My name is Ryan. And I'm Frank Castle. 3 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,880 And I'm Pao Kizman. Hi. 4 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:28,080 Hey, how's it going? Oh, it's, it's going well. 5 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,920 Not too bad. Welcome back to the show, you 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,120 know. Yeah, Oh, it's, it's a pleasure 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,440 to be here again. And for those who might not 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,680 Remember Me from the last time, I'm the creator of Corborg and 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,000 Killer and Necromancer and a bunch of other stuff. 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,520 Yeah, going by helting storytelling. 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,080 And now. Yeah, with, with, with my cat, 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,200 my cat Mia. Say hello, Mia. 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,720 And yeah. And I'm currently running a 14 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,160 crowdfunding for health power and I guess that will be one of 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,000 our subjects. And yeah, I'm super, super 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,680 stoked to be here and stuck to stuck with you guys again. 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,120 Yeah, we're excited to have you. I think the last time you were 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,240 on it was during the campaign for the Heretics Guide to the 19 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,360 Dying Lands. Yes. 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,800 Which I thought was super awesome. 21 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,160 How is that? How's wrapping that project been 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,960 going? It's going well, but we do work 23 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:36,040 a bit slow because Wall Crawler is taking his time with with the 24 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,160 art because he said, yeah, I just want just, I would just 25 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,520 want to do it right. So he's taking his time with it, 26 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:46,840 just really kind of thinking through every layout, every art. 27 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,160 So we're taking our time just to make sure that, you know, every 28 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,200 page is as good as it can be. It'll obviously go through 29 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,120 proofing and then we might change something. 30 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,360 But yeah, but it's, it's, it's going to like basically I write 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,240 like every week a, a portion so he can work on this. 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,960 I can have a little break and when he finishes, I'm ready 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,800 with, with new stuff that kind of, you know, like kind of 34 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,840 exchange notes in the in the meantime. 35 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,600 So that's a decent process. So we can focus on other stuff 36 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,600 as well in the meantime. But yeah, I think we should be 37 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,640 ready by the end of, I don't want to say end of end of 38 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:31,160 summer, but but potentially we'll see. 39 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,240 But it's, it's going, it's going well. 40 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:40,080 I'm super, super happy with how it's how it's how it looks both 41 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,360 kind of writing wise and then art wise. 42 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,520 So yeah, I think people will love it and will use it a lot. 43 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:49,640 I'm really excited to get through it. 44 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,800 Yeah, that one. So and then also I think the the 45 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,960 crowd, the crowdfunding for Corp org had finished when you came 46 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,040 on, but it has delivered since then. 47 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,680 So I see it on your shelf behind you. 48 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,640 I see it in my hands right now and it's a great, it's a great 49 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:06,600 book. I also got the the whole stack 50 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,040 of character sheets to go with it, which I'm so glad that like 51 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,880 Mark Borg did this. And then all the people that 52 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,800 make Mark Borg stuff started doing this too because the 53 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,880 character sheet pads are just great because a lot of times 54 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,560 you'll get like two or three nice character sheets and I'm 55 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,240 like, well, I'm never going to use those. 56 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,360 Why would I like Mark on the three that I get? 57 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,800 But when you get a whole pad of them, I'm like, all right, I 58 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,000 could actually use some of this and still keep some because I'm 59 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,560 a freak like that. But but how was I got, I was 60 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,480 going to ask like, how was this? I mean, you made it, it's great. 61 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:43,280 But like as a as a kind of a decent size crowdfunding project 62 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,920 with distribution and printing and art and like everything that 63 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,800 came with it, like how, how was that process? 64 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,680 It was painful at times because this is my first project. 65 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,600 Well, it wasn't my first crowdfunding and it wasn't my 66 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,960 first physical product that I had to make and deliver, but it 67 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,240 was my first TTRPG, first project on on kind of this scale 68 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,680 and took me longer than I thought. 69 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,279 And now I know I've learned a lot of different lessons 70 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,880 throughout it and it was a times painful, but it was also super 71 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,840 fun. And I'm, I'm really, I'm rarely 72 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:28,960 happy with what I do, but I'm really happy with how it kind of 73 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,600 turned out. Because like myself, I'm, I'm 74 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:35,920 seeing like I'm looking at a book on this. 75 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Yeah, OK. But then I hear people saying, 76 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,280 Whoa, I I love how kind of realistic it is because it's 77 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:46,200 like it's, you know, it's kind of dark fantasy horror kind of 78 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,280 stuff, but I see myself in it and it's like, OK, so that's, 79 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:53,720 that's cool. That's, you know, that's 80 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,040 probably, maybe you need some help, but that's cool that you 81 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,280 say this. And I think that's kind of that 82 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:04,040 shows me that I I did something right, that kind of a list, 83 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,160 some, some kind of emotions, which is great. 84 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,760 And but yeah, the whole process was was very lengthy and it's 85 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,560 still not over because there's still some backers that are 86 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,000 awaits their book. But it's almost, it's we're 87 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,800 almost there. It's just now my kind of 88 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,240 distributor was struck by hurricane. 89 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,040 So here's another delay. So it's always something. 90 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:34,440 But I guess that kind of happens when you're just a solo, the 91 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,600 creator just doing everything by yourself. 92 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,680 And obviously I've mentioned distributor. 93 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:44,440 So that's kind of that. But that comes at kind of at the 94 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,600 end. So there's only so much I can do 95 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,280 when I kind of pass the books over. 96 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,600 But to that point, you know, I'm just alone doing everything 97 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,480 myself and it it takes time, but also I kind of learned a lot in 98 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,880 terms of the process. So for example, I know that 99 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:05,520 health power will will be dealt with much better in terms of 100 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:11,280 production and other projects that I have to finish are always 101 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:18,440 also I have kind of a better process for them in place just 102 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,240 to make sure that people will be hay with with the quality, but 103 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,760 also they won't have to wait like a year to get their stuff. 104 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,840 I mean, a year is really not that long when compared to set 105 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:33,160 all their projects. I do. 106 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,120 I do appreciate that you are like learning these lessons and 107 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,400 then actively applying them immediately to like the next 108 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,040 project to kind of clean up the process. 109 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,160 I think that makes a big difference. 110 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,440 And I mean, I think we definitely don't have any 111 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,440 complaints about anything that you've released thus far. 112 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,920 I mean. That's fine. 113 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,160 No, no. And, and Coburg's great, you 114 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,640 know, like I, I love Mark Borg, Mark Borg's fantastic. 115 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,200 But after Mark Borg, there was so much Mark Borg stuff that we 116 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,680 took a break from Mark Borg for a while. 117 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,480 I was really glad I grabbed this because I backed this I think 118 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,000 before we'd ever talked about you coming on the show. 119 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,200 So I was really happy. And then when I actually started 120 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,240 reading it, like horror is great, you know, and like Mark 121 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Borg, like Dark World is great. But when you hit like corporate 122 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,120 horror, like it hits so close to home that it adds this like kind 123 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,960 of extra layer to like a layer of like, you know, you can 124 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,440 imagine like ash monsters and stuff and Merkborg. 125 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,000 But when you know about like punching out and like actually 126 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,280 going to work and like the, the, the extra added bit that it 127 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,640 gives you for that, like closer touch to reality is great. 128 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,760 Like I remember when we first read merger for Michael Elliot, 129 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,640 it was the same thing. We're like, we love this, but 130 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,240 like it hits a little too close to home like this. 131 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,320 This hurts us a little bit. So really fantastic game. 132 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,240 We're you know, we're not going to talk about this a ton today 133 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,480 because we want to talk about hell power. 134 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,240 But for anybody that has not checked out Korborg from from 135 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,920 bobble here, it is absolutely fantastic. 136 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,080 It's a really, really fantastic hack on on mark Borg that I 137 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,000 highly, highly suggest. Everyone goes grabs and we'll 138 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,520 make sure that all of the the links to this are are down in 139 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,280 the description below, but you know it it's you know the the 140 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,600 production is great like actually get it in hands and 141 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,760 like a reasonable time is great and the game itself is 142 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:13,800 fantastic. So it's. 143 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,080 A great game. Good. 144 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,600 Good job so far and we'll see. I think like the three other 145 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,840 projects you have in the works right now, if they reach this 146 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,800 quality, I think a lot of people would be very happy. 147 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:25,440 Thank you. Yeah. 148 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,720 But today, today we are talking about Hell power, which is a 149 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,640 very interesting take on Mark Pork as well as like a bunch of 150 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,200 other stuff. So First off, for those that 151 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,080 can't see the banner above me, what's what's Hell Power? 152 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:49,080 So it's it's a good question because there are several 153 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,600 different answers and I guess each answer will probably make 154 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,920 more sense to different people. But in the simplest form, it's 155 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:03,400 kind of a superhero Mork pork. But it's also not, it's about 156 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,640 people like normal people then, well, maybe they're not super 157 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,080 normal, but kind of normal ish who are faced against super 158 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:17,160 villains. So you can think like The Boys 159 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,880 or Injustice or other kind of different comic book, video 160 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:27,600 game, TV series, media that kind of features evil superheroes 161 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,640 doing real stuff and normal people trying to kind of survive 162 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,880 in that world. But it's just just so much more 163 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,320 in terms of how how bad it is in this world. 164 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,280 So it's like turn up to 11, maybe to 12 even. 165 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:49,760 And people who are at the comic book The Boys, which is a bit 166 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,120 more, I think even more unhinged than the TV series. 167 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:56,400 So I'm doing get even more unhinged. 168 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:03,120 It's going to feature truly kind of evil characters. 169 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,600 So like one superhero, for example. 170 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,040 I think that's probably the best example, like once, well, not 171 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,360 superhero, but super villain or as I call them, the powered 172 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,240 individual. He's got a whole country that 173 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,840 kind of owns and the whole country is basically a 174 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,720 concentration camp for for human and he can just do whatever he 175 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,040 wants with them like you can can only imagine. 176 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,640 I'm going to describe it in in details, but that's kind of how 177 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,680 how vile they are, how evil they are and they do unspeakable 178 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:43,200 things. And here players will face 179 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,480 against them. The only problem is that in in a 180 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,200 lot of games, I think Call of Catullo is, is probably the best 181 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,280 example for most of the game. If you do any kind of fighting, 182 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,680 you usually fight with someone that you can take down and like, 183 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:04,760 for example, because you also have enemies that you cannot 184 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,000 even touch because they're too powerful. 185 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,360 But there are certain ways that you can kind of mitigate the 186 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,320 risk or just gain some advantage. 187 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,600 And it will be the same principle in here, but those 188 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,760 will be the kind of main focus of the gameplay. 189 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:22,240 So you're just kind of normal bunch of normal dudes and 190 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,760 dudettes trying to trying to take down the superplyptic 191 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,400 powered individuals. But they will kind of 192 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,800 mechanically be so powerful that there's no way you can just 193 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:38,120 stand against them in a, in a normal D20 year old kind of 194 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:45,160 fight because they will have like 666 HP and they will deal 195 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:50,720 like D100 damage or whatever. So the whole game is constructed 196 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,080 around finding a way to hurt them or to kind of kill, 197 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:59,840 incapacitate or otherwise kind of deal with them in some way. 198 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,120 So the kind of the whole game play loop is about finding the 199 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,200 clues, finding kind of that what's the weakness and then 200 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,920 trying to exploit that weakness in different ways. 201 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,360 It can be kind of political, it can be personal kind of 202 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,680 psychological, it can be physical in terms of like you 203 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:25,040 need to get kind of a kryptonite kind of thing to weak them to 204 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,880 weaken them. So there will be a lot of 205 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,720 different options. And because it's a kind of more 206 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,600 work based game, either everything will will play out 207 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,240 pretty smoothly and then simple and it will leave a lot of room 208 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,760 for people to adjust the game to their needs and their vision of 209 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,320 what it means to do it. And they can scale themselves up 210 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,480 as well. So if they want more of a power 211 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,480 fantasy in which they can acquire a power armor like and 212 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,640 like, like Batman hat and just go and, and, you know, brawl 213 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,240 their way out, they'll be able to do it. 214 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,960 If they prefer kind of more role play and, and some kind of 215 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,800 detective kind of style of, of, of gameplay, they can do that as 216 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,120 well. Which means that I had to adjust 217 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:20,160 more rules to to give people and players more options to really 218 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,480 mechanically support what they want to do, but still keeping it 219 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,240 very simple so they can have a lot of room to breathe and 220 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:34,080 entrepreneurs, whatever they like and rules that will fit on 221 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:39,720 one page still. So so it's still going to be 222 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:45,080 simple, but there will be options that will help to to run 223 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,400 the game in a way that will support the whole gameplay loop 224 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,920 idea. Yeah, that sounds too you first. 225 00:13:54,680 --> 00:14:00,360 Oh, I wanted to say the quickest side is that the only time I 226 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,400 ever thought Superman was interesting at all was an 227 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,720 injustice. So I'm really glad that we get 228 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,800 to see him in here. But I just want to clarify just 229 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,560 in case. And I I love this so much. 230 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:14,720 Like the players in this game are just normal human beings and 231 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,400 like the Super powered crazy stuff are like the things you 232 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,040 fight against. So you just get to be like the 233 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,520 same kind of weak, you know, close to death merkboard 234 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,200 characters fighting superhumans. Exactly, there are like there 235 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:34,200 are two ways to gain some powers. 10 Ryan. 236 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,440 OK, we'll wait. We'll wait for Ryan. 237 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:43,200 No. OK, so the 1st way is to to get 238 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,920 mutated. There's like fifty chance. 239 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,520 We'll see, Maybe we'll adjust it, but there's a fifty chance 240 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,800 to get some kind of random mutation that will give you some 241 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,720 power, but it's going to be very useless. 242 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,720 It's going to like you have invisibility of 1% of your body. 243 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,600 So like you have invisible hand or whatever, very useless. 244 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,840 And the other thing, the other option is to hunt for Imps 245 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,480 because like just to get a little bit more kind of lore 246 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,840 around it. So it's called Hell power 247 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,160 because those individuals got their powers from hell. 248 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,400 Gotcha. Kind of how literally opened and 249 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,400 burst kind of this kind of energy that rippled through the 250 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:33,040 earth and all those bad people gain, gain some kind of of 251 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,480 powers. But also it kind of unleashed 252 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,400 those little Imps that are physically like physical 253 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,160 manifestation of hell. The only one, the only 254 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,520 manifestation. Well maybe not the only one but 255 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:52,040 I just want to spoil too much. And by hunting them and eating 256 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,480 them or drinking your blood, whatever, like normal and stuff, 257 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:04,280 you can also gain powers that that will have some downsides, a 258 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:12,000 lot of downsides, but can temporarily or or or good give 259 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,880 you some, some abilities that will maybe don't make you as 260 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,240 powerful as the most powerful powered individuals, but they 261 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:27,120 will give you some options to you realize that kind of fantasy 262 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,920 of, of, of having a superpower, although it's still remember 263 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,920 it's, it's, it's a really fucked up world. 264 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,560 So it's not going to be pretty. It's not going to be fun. 265 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:44,120 Well, it's going to be fun, but it will have a lot of cons Died 266 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,880 to it. So could you give us an example 267 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:52,200 of one of these like endowed powers that you could possibly 268 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,320 get? Sure. 269 00:16:54,320 --> 00:17:00,120 So there will be a bit of normal stuff like super strain for 270 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:06,520 flight or kind of invisibility or stuff like that. 271 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:13,280 But it's just, it will be pretty kind of straightforward and it 272 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,800 will be pretty well, I don't want to say boring, but pretty 273 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,839 normal. But it's about downsides. 274 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:23,680 Yeah, normal. But it will be more about kind 275 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,319 of what's the price to pay to use them to a certain extent. 276 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:35,040 And it will be more, it will be both mechanical disadvantage and 277 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,360 also role-playing disadvantage. There will be some things in 278 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:45,360 fiction that will kind of push you into different situations 279 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:47,960 because of you having that imp power. 280 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,960 So it's not always the best deal. 281 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,400 You can, you can, you can have. It's not always worth drinking 282 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,560 in blood, but it's an option. There will be other options to 283 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:04,480 to get you that advantage that might be not as powerful but may 284 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,320 not cost you as much. Cool. 285 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,080 I love the I really do love like I'm saying that the idea that 286 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,480 it's you and you're very insignificant and you're 287 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,920 fighting this like overwhelmingly powerful, like 288 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:24,040 evil demigod almost. I think that's very has a lot of 289 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,320 potential for some very interesting story arcs and 290 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:32,760 character deaths, you know? Yeah, and I, I think I just, I 291 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,040 wonder if people will have to adjust to it, if some people 292 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,880 will be like, yeah, just let's, let's fight them. 293 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Like let's find their weakness and and then just let's go and 294 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,200 just just do it. And they will get decimated in 295 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,760 seconds. Like, OK, maybe we need a 296 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,040 different approach, but I think it's OK. 297 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,840 But I will try to support and kind of different ways of 298 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,120 playing mechanically. So people will have different 299 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:02,920 options to maybe adjust the game to how they want to play it. 300 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:08,880 If they don't want to spend like 16 hours finding a kind of toxin 301 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:13,400 that will work on certain powered and, and they want kind 302 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,040 of simpler way or faster way or something that will give them 303 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,920 more fun in terms of, yeah, we can just brawl it out, then it's 304 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,600 OK. There will be different options, 305 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:29,600 which I think it's, it's kind of how I, how I like to, to do my 306 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,360 games. So it's simple. 307 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:36,400 It's it's not a lot of words, but there's a lot of breathing 308 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:42,600 room, a lot of options for both GMs and players to figure it out 309 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:49,000 and just wing it when they want, like whenever they want or 310 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,520 improvise or just kind of adjust the whole thing to how they want 311 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,880 to play. Yeah, you know it's funny, 312 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,640 especially when you look at a lot of the the things obviously 313 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,320 jump out to me right away are Injustice and the boys, because 314 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,840 it's both are kind of like that to to a point right with this 315 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,560 far as like normal people battling super powered people. 316 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,920 Obviously Injustice there were some super powered people too, 317 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,600 but like Batman for example. It's funny to me that in. 318 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,600 What you're saying about the different styles kind of happens 319 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,240 in both types of that media too, right? 320 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,360 Where they, like, they spend whole arcs trying to figure out 321 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:28,640 the best way, like let's get magic so we can take that in 322 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,720 Superman. But then they always inevitably 323 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,320 come to like, take this pill and you get superpowers for an hour 324 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,960 and then you can brawl it out with Superman for an hour or 325 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,480 whatever. But I I really like the idea. 326 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,040 I mean, I I hope that people, you know, one thing that I 327 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,040 really enjoy about or one thing I think you did really well with 328 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,480 the backer kit page and even with like the cover, which is up 329 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,800 in the screen and out, which is absolutely fantastic. 330 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,280 Kill the powered rebellions tell is great. 331 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,720 Is you're communicating really well that like you aren't the 332 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,840 Super powered people. So I think the people that will 333 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,400 buy this game and and lean into it are the people that kind of 334 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,440 lean a little bit more towards Mark Borg that like having one 335 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,040 HP and trying to go kill stuff and having it be a little bit 336 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,520 harder and a little bit more difficult. 337 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,880 And if you know, the one of the thing, one critique we always 338 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,640 had on Mark Borg is like, there's not a whole lot of 339 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,520 reason to do stuff except to do stuff, you know? 340 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:22,520 And then in this game, it gives you like a very strong like goal 341 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,240 to get to. So spending 16 hours trying to 342 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,120 find a poison to take down one guy is exactly the kind of game 343 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:29,480 I want to play in something like this. 344 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,400 So I think you're communicating really well the intent behind 345 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,240 that. So obviously, you know, it'd be 346 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,200 cool to be able to take a power bill to fight the dude for an 347 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,000 hour or whatever, but I think you're doing a really fantastic 348 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,440 job of, of communicating what the game is to people. 349 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,000 Yeah. But honestly, if you think like 350 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,040 why would you like, like why would you do it like? 351 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,040 Why would you try to take down that powered? 352 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,440 And so there are two different things that I wanted to 353 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,840 implement to give you that reason. 354 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,440 So one is, well, basically the reason you have that's in your 355 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,040 past or just happened recently, something that kind of pushes 356 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,720 you to do it. There is a whole random table 357 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,960 you can come up with your own, but there is a random table for 358 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:17,120 that. But having that is very crucial. 359 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:20,160 Having that motivation is crucial because you'll be able 360 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,880 to use that motivation to to gain a mechanical advantage in 361 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,080 the game. So kind of the reason you fight 362 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:36,640 will give you some, some options when the time is, is, yeah, when 363 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,440 the time comes and when it's it's going bad and when you're 364 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,720 all you know about to die. We'll see how it'll be called. 365 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,160 I, I think I had two different ideas. 366 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,520 One is second Wind and the other is plot armour. 367 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,440 We'll see which one if it's better. 368 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,280 But basically using that motivation, doing like even 369 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,640 role-playing it like doing a flashback or just describing, 370 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,080 just giving a little bit more from the players to add to the 371 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,440 fiction, it will give them mechanical advantage as well. 372 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,400 So that kind of motivation is really important both in terms 373 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,000 of of like, why the hell would you try to take down that that 374 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,280 that guy that can reap you all reap you apart in, in, in half 375 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,480 of a second, but also to have the motivation actually 376 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,800 influence the the the the gameplay. 377 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,440 I think that that will be pretty cool. 378 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,800 Yeah, I mean, that's one of the things that you want in games, I 379 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,040 think period is just a reason to do things. 380 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,480 You can create this insanely awesome world, but like at the 381 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,840 end of the day, if I feel like I would just sit around and 382 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,000 chilling in it, then I'm not really going to go adventure in 383 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,160 it. So it's cool that that you 384 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,920 obviously have thought about that already and and have that 385 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,880 built in on top of just the let's free ourselves from these 386 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,320 terrible people that are abusing us with their health hours. 387 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,160 So that's that's really cool to see. 388 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,800 I also one thing that I've noticed kind of in the Mark pork 389 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,240 space too, which is really cool, is that more people are doing 390 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,280 less Mark Borg stuff and more like hacks of Mark Borg, which 391 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,000 is something I've been wanting for years. 392 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,520 So what was your kind of inspiration to cuz I know Kirk 393 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,760 Borg is exactly that, but also like, you know, guy to the dying 394 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,680 lands is, is, is Mark Borg stuff. 395 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,680 But what's been your motivation kind of to not do stuff 396 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,960 specifically set in, you know, the Mark Borg world, but to 397 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,440 actually take the Mark Borg rules and do corporate Mark Borg 398 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,720 or do superpower Mark Borg or stuff like that? 399 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,520 Like what? What is what is what's kind of 400 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:46,560 driving you to to make these? So for Corp work, the reason was 401 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,480 that it was well, a couple of reasons actually. 402 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,720 First, first of all, I wanted to start with, it was not kind of 403 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,080 first big projects. I want to start with something 404 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,840 that will be a bit easier on me that I can take an engine or I 405 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,920 can take even a kind of a setting or a mood and adjust it 406 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,880 so I can learn by doing that. If I would just go lately, I 407 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,920 will just create my own system that would be a a bit risky and 408 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,480 maybe a bit stupid to do as a first project. 409 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,160 So that gave me that confidence that I know I love more pork and 410 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,440 I see how it can translate into that corporate setting. 411 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,400 And so, so that was kind of natural choice, but also a 412 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,920 little bit of of kind of marketing wise, you know, 413 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,880 there's a, a huge community around those games. 414 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,480 So I thought it, it would be a good start also because I will 415 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,920 have an audience already people who might be I, I don't know if 416 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,200 they will. Well, now I know that they were, 417 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:51,640 but at the time I didn't might be interested in, in looking at 418 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,680 this project and supporting it maybe. 419 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,680 And with health power, there's also a little bit of that, a 420 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,880 little bit of, yeah, I know the system and I have that kind of 421 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,440 quarrel that I can use and I have an audience that might be 422 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,520 interested. But the main reason was because 423 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,360 it was, it was supposed to be completely different system. 424 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:16,200 It was, it was supposed to be something else. 425 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,320 I had a few different ideas, but then I kind of came back to Morg 426 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,680 Borg and I looked at the structure of the game and what I 427 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,720 want to do with hell power. It was like, OK, so it is 428 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,480 apocalyptic. It is a world in which normal 429 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,840 people, like weak people are faced against impossible odds. 430 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,480 OK, so that's also, you know, kind of the same thing. 431 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:42,040 There will be kind of calendar of events that will bring 432 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,760 apocalypse closer and closer and OK, so next match. 433 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,760 And also I wanted to be mechanically simple but 434 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,440 adjustable. So then again, OK, if I can fit 435 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,440 rules in one page, I can, you know, add another page and, and 436 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,560 voila. And, and it, it works because 437 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,080 it's simple enough, intuitive enough, but also it kind of 438 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,080 enables to, to add things on top of it if should I want to add 439 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,480 them? And then I thought, yes, so that 440 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,880 that's kind of that's the best choice probably because it fits 441 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,120 the kind of the philosophy I want to follow, it fits the the 442 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,880 setting I want to create. It all fits the kind of the 443 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,360 rules I want to use to a degree. Although, yeah, as I mentioned, 444 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:34,400 I will adjust those rules pretty significantly at times. 445 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,000 And I think the biggest difference will be addition of 446 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,480 skills or kind of, well, skills, abilities, but in terms of 447 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:49,480 apologies, but skills that you have, you will assign points to. 448 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:56,520 So like, I don't know, whatever kind of repair or hacking, there 449 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,920 will be skills that you will be able to use, kind of kind of 450 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,160 blocks of skills that you will be able to and also put together 451 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,800 to create your own character with still 6 archetypes. 452 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,000 But you will be able to create completely unique character by 453 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:19,000 building it from those with those kind of blocks of skills. 454 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,880 It won't be super complicated. It won't be like you have. 455 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,360 I know it won't work like spells or abilities and and other 456 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:30,080 games. It'll be much simpler. 457 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,280 But it'll give you that kind of direction in which your 458 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,200 character can go and what what what what you can do may be 459 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,800 better than like normal people. Because also it's about having 460 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,920 that kind of an advantage in at that kind of human level. 461 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,840 Because, for example, you will have to, I don't know, go into a 462 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,440 secret lab and steal something. So then obviously if you're just 463 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,600 a bunch of normal people without any particular skills, it'll 464 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,160 look pretty difficult to do that. 465 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:10,880 But if you have someone who is a ex military, if you have someone 466 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,840 who's who's kind of mastermind and can come up with different 467 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,360 plans or someone who's excellent at hacking or breaking in, 468 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,480 etcetera, that kind of gives you that direction and also gives 469 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,120 you some options to to using the role play. 470 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,480 So we'll see how it how it turns out. 471 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,640 We'll see. I'll try to play test the shit 472 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,560 out of this game to make it as balanced as possible. 473 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,360 But that's kind of that's I think that's the biggest change. 474 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,960 And there will be some, some minor, minor additions or 475 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,680 subtractions here and there, But I think if someone will just go 476 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,760 to help our from more world like, OK, I, I kind of 477 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,040 understand, I kind of get it. I kind of I can follow the, the 478 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,160 whole structure. I think. 479 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,760 So that's that's the idea. I like it. 480 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,480 I, I think you, you have this very consistent, like you're, 481 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,640 you're good at setting expectations and like your 482 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,240 ability to use Merck board and adapt it also in and of itself 483 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,320 kind of sets an expectation for how a game is like to work and 484 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,920 go. And I think starting with a 485 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,520 hack's a really great idea because it allows you'd like, 486 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,600 like what you're doing is to modularly add on the things that 487 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,120 you need on top of a framework that works very well. 488 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,960 Do you ever have? Are you ever going to consider 489 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,720 making your own your own system? Yeah, I think so. 490 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:37,120 Whispers of the woods that I, I do struggle to find time to 491 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,680 finish it, but I'm writing, I'm kind of every week again, every 492 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,720 week I'm putting words on a, on a piece of virtual paper. 493 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,680 So it's, it's very close to finish. 494 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,840 I have all the artwork done. I have basically everything I 495 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,520 need. I just need to kind of spend 496 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,880 some time, just sit down and kind of finish it. 497 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,280 But it's, it's going to be its own system, very simplistic, 498 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:08,720 very simplistic. And and then there is going to 499 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,400 be another game. We'll see maybe this year, if 500 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,960 not this year, beginning of, of next year, which I haven't 501 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,280 decided yet because I have a setting, I have an artist, I 502 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,160 have a wonderful idea. I'm like super excited, but I 503 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,440 just can, I, I have other things on my mind and other things I 504 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,520 have to finish first, But I would so much, I would, I would 505 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,400 love to kind of sit down and just do it right now, but I 506 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,720 can't. And, and it's going to be 507 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:46,800 probably its own system very close to kind of OSR games. 508 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,520 So maybe it'll be very similar to Morpur, but it's not going to 509 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,800 be more pork. It's going it's going to be 510 00:31:54,800 --> 00:32:02,200 basically another rendition of your kind of second edition VND 511 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,440 or BX. So in in in that vein. 512 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,400 So kind of dark like, well, we'll see if dark, but it's kind 513 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,640 of your normal old school fantasy, kind of think supported 514 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,040 by rules that we'll see how it goes. 515 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,520 I, I, I do think it will be its own thing, its own system. 516 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,760 But because of how different ISRS are structured, it's really 517 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,400 difficult to say that it's kind of completely new system. 518 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:35,520 It will be very similar to your name for Karen or, or more poor 519 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,800 or other stuff. So but yeah, but what we'll see, 520 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,640 I think it will be its own its own thing. 521 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,480 And then, yeah. And then I do have some other 522 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,400 kind of work board or cyber related projects that will be 523 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,240 supplements. So, so that's that and yeah. 524 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,760 And then we'll see. We'll see how it goes. 525 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,280 Very cool. Yeah. 526 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,880 You know, Speaking of system, I do you know, clearly you you 527 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,760 enjoy the boards, you know, but I do think it's interesting. 528 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,680 You said you were going to do not Mark Borg and then came back 529 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,520 to it for this because it I like it fits like if you if you gave 530 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,240 me this idea and told me it's like superhumans, but they got 531 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,800 their power from hell. A little hellums come out like I 532 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,920 would think Mark Borg would be a great system to run that in, 533 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,200 especially because human beings are so weak and things like 534 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,280 that. So I think it's a great idea to 535 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,600 use that as a base. And as I said, like it always 536 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,640 surprised me how long it took before people really started 537 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,360 making like using the system of Merck Borg and making new stuff 538 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,360 or just making stuff for Merck board because of how good and 539 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,160 clean and light the Merck Borg kind of bases. 540 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,240 It does allow you to add so much to it without, you know, ever 541 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,400 needing to worry about breaking the system or anything like 542 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,200 that. It's it's really 543 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,920 straightforward. It's pretty brutal. 544 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,600 It's just a, it's, it's a really great idea or, or a great base 545 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,440 to hack from in the same way that we have a million nave 546 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,320 hacks, 1,000,000 Karen hacks and things like that. 547 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,920 So it's it's awesome to see other stuff. 548 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,239 And it's also, you know, really interesting to see something 549 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,679 that's set in like the, you know, pseudo right now. 550 00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,199 You did send us some graphics that have been kind of showing 551 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,400 up on the board a little bit, but I wanted to talk about them 552 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,000 a little bit. So first of all, how about that 553 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,719 cover, which is absolutely fantastic. 554 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,520 So I think this is all Strega, right? 555 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,360 Yeah. So it's, it's, they're ours. 556 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:38,800 And then I, I put it together because the initial, initial 557 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,880 cover was supposed to be completely different, but the 558 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,520 artist struggled to finish the piece because he decided to 559 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,760 paint it by hand with acrylics. He took a lot of time and I 560 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,239 didn't really have so much time to wait. 561 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,720 So I just and, and then when he kind of finished the piece, it 562 00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,560 was an amazing piece, which which is like, which fits 563 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,600 perfectly, but it wasn't suitable for for the cover. 564 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,200 So then I had to make a quick turn around and was like, OK, 565 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,240 what, what, what could work? And then I just went, OK, let's 566 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:15,760 see. Batman covers. 567 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,720 OK, now boring, boring, boring. And then we're like, maybe, huh, 568 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,640 Watchman covers. OK, OK, this one. 569 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,160 OK, this maybe we could do something with this one. 570 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:32,240 I went to Strega just first right off the bat and, and they 571 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,800 said, listen, I have that idea. How about we, we do this? 572 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:38,840 And they were like, yeah, yeah, that sounds, sounds cool. 573 00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:43,960 And I thought their style will fit, fit those images perfectly 574 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,920 and was like about, you know, there's two of nine pieces. 575 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,480 We'll put it together and we'll see how it how it goes. 576 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,680 Then I, it took me a few days to to get it right and make 577 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,160 potentially the final cover might be a little bit different 578 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,640 here and there. But the whole thing I think came 579 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,080 came along and I I think maybe I I don't want to say I nailed it 580 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,320 because it's it's not really my kind of thing because all artist 581 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:24,080 Tregas and and the the logo is from Tommy, the creator of 582 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,400 obscure, for example, just one DNA for judge judges spotlight. 583 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,240 They're. Just spotlight Groton Yeah, 584 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:30,840 swab. They've. 585 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,360 Done a lot of great stuff. Yeah, so, so that that place, 586 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,920 well, that logo is fucking awesome. 587 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,200 It's just whenever I shout it to people, people like, Oh my God, 588 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,280 it's amazing. And I cannot agree more. 589 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,680 Like I could put the logo on itself on a blank page, like, 590 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,120 yeah, that's amazing cover. And yeah, and also inspiration 591 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:56,360 from from the cover of Watchmen. I think that that came came out 592 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,720 pretty well and also kind of conveys first, first of all, 593 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:06,000 it's an homage to a classic cover for a story that kind of I 594 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,880 think stands within all those different inspirations for the 595 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,560 game. But also it it tells a story of 596 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,720 like, yeah, here you have the title here you have different 597 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,720 super villains as well. So you can kind of see who who 598 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:27,680 they might be and kind of, you know, OK, it's interesting. 599 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,960 Maybe I'll open up the book and I'll see who they are. 600 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,280 And there's some place to to give the traditional text to 601 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,680 suggest what you are going to do in this game. 602 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,920 So I think, yeah, it came out pretty well, I think even better 603 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,560 than I initially hoped for. But that's all thanks to Strega 604 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:51,560 and Tommy and yeah, and the original cover for the Watchmen 605 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,000 trade. Well, it's not the kind of deep 606 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,480 first cover. It's I think it was like one of 607 00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,800 the the kind of editions that came came later on, but still 608 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,920 pretty, pretty cool cover. And see what other so we have 609 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,960 this is listed as as Ben or Frau. 610 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,760 Love this piece so much. So who, who, who, who might this 611 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,440 one be? With the sword across the eyes 612 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:22,680 and the. So that's Frau Apata or Apate or 613 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,600 whatever you want to kind of pronounce it. 614 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,280 Basically she's a kind of a spoof of Wonder Woman. 615 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,960 And it was the first character. I just, well, maybe not the, I 616 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,640 think it's this. No, it was the first character 617 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:44,880 for this game I came up with, and she's basically a kind of 618 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:51,720 reversed, kind of reversed Wonder Woman because she's one 619 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:53,640 of her. Like she's got, you know, kind 620 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:59,120 of regular powers like strength, speech, endurance, like at 621 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:04,120 superhuman level. But her thing is the items she's 622 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:10,600 got her sword and her kind of choker and the choker kind of 623 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,760 gave this her disability to, to tell lies that people will 624 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,080 believe. And you need to do a very 625 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:26,640 difficult role, like the very difficult test to kind of try to 626 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,240 oppose it and pursue. It is also pretty interesting 627 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:38,320 because upon killing someone, it inflicts pain that feels like a 628 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,160 100 years of pain condensed in, in this one moment. 629 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,160 So you feel like excruciating pain that feels like it's 100 630 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,600 years like has passed and all kind of condensed in this one 631 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,400 moment of knowing that you're going to die in in the next 632 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,080 second. And she's also she's also kind 633 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,840 of will be a prominent character because she's her motivations 634 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,600 are might be a bit vague. She's a murderer. 635 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:13,120 She likes to kill young girls, not only kill, but do different 636 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,680 stuff with them as well. But her parents are politics 637 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,440 politicians, sorry. And so she's got a little bit of 638 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,320 kind of political agenda. And the whole thing that can be 639 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,880 exploited by the players. So, so hopefully an interesting 640 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,800 character. Actually terrifying. 641 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,400 Yep. Sounds genuinely terrifying. 642 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,200 We got this one that says over man next to it. 643 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,120 Yes, that's the kind of the main body and that's kind of evil 644 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,200 Superman or evil Homelander or whatever. 645 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,120 I guess I yeah, I guess it's, it's one of the very many 646 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,720 iterations of, of evil Superman. So all the powers that you can 647 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:03,560 think of that Superman had over the years, he will have. 648 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:09,160 And also he's pretty fucking terrifying because that's the 649 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,560 character that owns the whole country of, of human slaves just 650 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:19,640 to play with. And and he is pretty deranged. 651 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:24,080 He's super intelligent, but he's also like like he's got 652 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,440 seemingly no motivation. He's likes to, you know, kill 653 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,560 and do a different stuff for fun. 654 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,200 But he's being kept in check by one of the other character that 655 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,160 I, I won't spoil today because this character will have a very 656 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,280 significant meaning for the whole game. 657 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:47,720 So there's yeah, there's only one character that can kind of 658 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:53,160 reason with with Overman. And also, yeah, the Oromo will 659 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,160 be like this threadless apocalyptical threat that don't 660 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,800 know, you know, the 7/7 he comes and can just kind of destroys 661 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,480 the whole world. So he's kind of the the main 662 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,680 body in in that sense. And he is seemingly, he 663 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,840 seemingly has no weakness. So that'll be very interested. 664 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,520 But there, as I've mentioned, there is one very pivotal 665 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,760 character to the whole game that will have a say in this. 666 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,040 But yeah, the Doberman is is just a just very fucked up 667 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,960 person and is very much inspired by a character from Suicide 668 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:39,560 Squad, The Blaze by Sy Spurrier. There is a character in there 669 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,040 that's that's even more powerful than Superman, but it's just a 670 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:50,600 guy who's who's basically raping and killing people in different 671 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,880 orders. Sometimes it's just, you know, 672 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,400 it's like super, super fucked up and it's just, you know, doing 673 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,920 only this just killing and, and, and raping and, and that's the 674 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,440 like, that's the whole thing. But because he's more powerful 675 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,640 than Superman, it makes him so terrifying. 676 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,280 It's just, and the whole comic book is is amazing in terms of 677 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,720 kind of the art, how how terrifying the whole thing is, 678 00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,960 not only on a conceptual level, but on the art level as well. 679 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,680 So, yeah, so that was one of the kind of main inspirations for 680 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,920 this one as well. Yeah, the the art is really 681 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,520 giving me a tack Titan from from Attack of Titans too, with the 682 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,400 with Aaron and everything. Love that. 683 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,360 And then the last one, the last one I'll bring up is the last 684 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,200 one you sent me actually, which is this fantastic comic art 685 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,880 style spread here. It's got everything everyone you 686 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,840 talked about so far, except maybe I don't think overman's in 687 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,600 this, but like frows in there. There's some people you 688 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,520 recognize from the cover. So, So what is? 689 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,160 What is this piece? So this is basically an 690 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,920 interpretation of of the cover done by Rafael Schwappa, who is 691 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,320 a friend of mine, a comic book artist. 692 00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:09,520 And he's done and he's the the person before we started 693 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:14,040 recording, I've said that I wanted to ask every guest who's 694 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,240 on the stretch goal list to to give me some kind of artwork 695 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:22,360 that I can put in there and the campaign page to just showcase 696 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,040 who they are, what they do. And I've asked Raffle just, you 697 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,440 know, if you could send me something. 698 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,000 It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I will send something and maybe 699 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,720 I'll adjust it so it's more kind of super villainish and will fit 700 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:38,600 your your game more. And then two days after, he just 701 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,240 sent me this whole illustration with his interpretation of the 702 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:46,680 characters in the cover, and he didn't even know descriptions of 703 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,760 those characters. He just took them straight up 704 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,880 from the cover and done it his way and it's like, yeah, OK, 705 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:59,080 this is just made it which which is fantastic and also kind of it 706 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,400 showcases how the comic book will look like should we unlock 707 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,440 it. Even if we don't, I think Rafael 708 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,400 will still do a few illustrations that will be in 709 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,440 the book. But should we hit the final 710 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,160 stretch goal, there will be a 16 pages comic book that will be 711 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,440 kind of an introduction to the whole game, will be illustrated 712 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,480 by Rafael. So it's a little bit of a 713 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:28,640 showcase of what what he can do. So yeah. 714 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:36,000 So, yeah, so talking about the the campaign, I've been bringing 715 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,880 the page up every now and then, but you are, you are funded 716 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,000 right now, almost double funded, but we still got 23 days of the 717 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,920 campaign to plenty of time for people to go over to back your 718 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,560 kit and back it. But it is funded. 719 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,880 Why don't you tell us, you know, if people back it, when people 720 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,640 back it right now, what can they get? 721 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,000 And what stretch goals are we looking for in the future, 722 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,760 including the the comic? Sure. 723 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,640 So it's pretty simple. It's very straightforward 724 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,680 campaign. So you can get a digital book, 725 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,600 you can get a hardcover book or you can get a hardcover book 726 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,880 along hard character sheets. And a little bit of a bonus 727 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,880 surprise character sheet is ready. 728 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,080 It's all done by Lukash Kovalchuk, who's done the 729 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,840 character sheet for Corp Borg and this time around he's done a 730 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,600 character sheet in form of a comic book. 731 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:33,600 So basically it's a kind of kind of narratively driven comic book 732 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,920 that serves as a character sheet. 733 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,880 Not sure. Not sure if I send it over if 734 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,240 not that it will. It's it's just absolutely 735 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,880 fantastic. So the kind of that's the 736 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,680 package. There are no like super high 737 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,760 tiers that you can, I don't know, get a handshake or 738 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,640 whatever. So it's just that you can just 739 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,240 physical products or a digital one and then stretch goals or 740 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:04,480 starts from kind of your typical some kind of digital content, so 741 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,120 different kind of random tables and stuff like that or handouts 742 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,880 you can print. And then you can get some like 743 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:17,640 you can make the book bigger, additional 8 pages and whatnot. 744 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,920 And then there are guests, I don't remember the the order of 745 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,320 those guests. So I will bring up the campaign 746 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:32,200 so I don't mess it up as well, but but I really wanted to ask 747 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,320 people that I really admire and I just thought they art will 748 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,640 will be perfect for this campaign. 749 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:45,840 So we do have in strategicals. First of all, we have Phil 750 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,440 Jensen who's done Trapped Within. 751 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,680 He's an amazing designer and artist and I really love like 752 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,560 he's got a community built around his warrior and he's 753 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,880 always like doing random tables and then kind of make amazing 754 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,760 spreads out of them. It's really, really, really, you 755 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,640 know, he's really fantastic in terms of making different things 756 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,240 work and he's got a lot of different creative ideas. 757 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:12,800 So so I would absolutely love to see Phil doing a page for this. 758 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:18,400 We have Tommy Suzanoeuer, who is obviously we've mentioned Tommy. 759 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,480 He's done the logo for health power. 760 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:26,840 He's also done swamp and he's done obscure and rotten. 761 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,400 So again, it would be amazing to to have him. 762 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,680 Then we have Johan Noor. So I think we don't really have 763 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:40,120 to teach you this Johan. But to those of you who don't 764 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,480 know who Johann is, he's the artist behind original Morkborg 765 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,480 and Cyborg and bunch of other things. 766 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,680 It's absolutely, you know, an amazing artist as an amazing 767 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,440 human being. And it's it would be an honor to 768 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,120 have his illustration inside hell power. 769 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:02,960 And then last but not least, it's a comic book biograph of 770 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,560 Schwappa with my script. So those are stretch goals. 771 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,560 Hopefully we'll be able to to get all of them. 772 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:17,520 And even if not, I'll try to try to make it work so we can get as 773 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,480 much cool stuff inside the book and as much guests. 774 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,760 We we possibly can. There might be some other guest 775 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:30,000 appearances that are not with with within stretch goals, but 776 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,360 but we'll we'll get to there maybe in one of the following 777 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,240 updates. Awesome. 778 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,360 Yeah, you know, and again, the projects on Backer Kit and on 779 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,680 Kickstarter, so definitely spreading this around is going 780 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,480 to be super helpful. You know, we talked about this 781 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,200 before, Backer Kit doesn't quit and get quite the organic kind 782 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,520 of spread as Kickstarter does. But regardless of that, I mean 783 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,800 only weekend, you're already at almost €10,000 and almost 200 784 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,280 backers. So that in and of itself is 785 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,160 already, you know, successful. Obviously we want to get to that 786 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,680 almost almost 30 K to hit that comic book. 787 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,760 It's a 26 six, so we'll definitely anyone listening to 788 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,440 this, obviously you need to go back it and spread this around 789 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,600 to everyone else. It sounds fantastic. 790 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,160 Obviously the more poor community is going to be 791 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,480 supportive of this. But on top of that, I think 792 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,320 anyone, I mean the boys is really popular right now. 793 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,400 Anyone that's in teach RPGs that has been watching the boys. 794 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,360 I think this is going to be I mean, one of the closest 795 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,880 experiences I've seen to to capturing the feel of what that 796 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,680 feels like. So this looks like a really neat 797 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,320 project to to grab on to, to, to, I mean, in a fucked up 798 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,960 world, but you know, isn't everything. 799 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:48,280 But yeah, so on top of this, on top of core board coming out, on 800 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,360 top of of everything coming out right now, for those things that 801 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,600 are out digitally right now, where can people find your 802 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,800 stuff? And obviously we'll link to the 803 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,640 help our page, but for all the stuff we talked about already, 804 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,400 where can they find more of your content so they can see how good 805 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,120 it is so that they'll go back to this project? 806 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:15,520 OK, so I think for digital content, my H dot IO page, which 807 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:21,800 is Hilton Dash storytelling dot H dot IO is, is the place to go. 808 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,680 There is a website coming which will be a physical and digital 809 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,920 shop of my things that I will be able to physically send over. 810 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,160 That will include Korborg and Clear Necromancer and all the 811 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:40,280 other stuff I will have in time. And also it will have some free 812 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,240 content for different games, character sheets and different 813 00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:48,920 stuff to download as well. It's coming soon. 814 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,640 I'm going to give you the your address because it's not ready 815 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:57,320 yet, but in terms of physical products, I do work with several 816 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,240 partners. So in the UK it's beyond 817 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:03,720 Cataclysm and the US it's world of game design. 818 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,680 And in Europe, I think the two best places would be either from 819 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,360 myself when I'm ready, or all the problems in the world, which 820 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,440 is a Berlin based store, which is fantastic. 821 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,240 And Yan, the owner of the store, super cool guy. 822 00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:25,000 He's got such an excellent offer of different TTRPGS and comic 823 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,920 books as well. So please visit even digitally 824 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,800 virtually and get some stuff from him. 825 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:40,000 And the only problem is that as of today, only shop that would 826 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,960 get some, that would have some, probably some world of game 827 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,800 design. But the second because I've just 828 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,080 run out of everything. So I'm doing a second printing 829 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,720 that should be ready soon. And the other place that I 830 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,880 absolutely ask everyone to go and get as much stuff possible 831 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,560 as Cartelian Vault, which is an official store of Stockholm 832 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,240 Cartel. So the creators of Morp work and 833 00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:10,480 will have both Corborg and Killer Necromancera. 834 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,120 But it's a great place to get official Morp work stuff and 835 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,720 also third party content from other amazing creators. 836 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,800 So definitely a place to to check out. 837 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,200 I'm not sure if Korburg is is there or will be there in the 838 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,000 time that you listen to IT people, but it will be there 839 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,520 soon. But if it's not there, there are 840 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,400 so many amazing other games out there and supplements, so just 841 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,960 go check it out. Yeah, not only the cotillion 842 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,320 vaults, but also Pit Trap shop, which is Johans personal store 843 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,440 that just went up as well. Has a lot of good mark work 844 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,960 stuff in there. You know, it's funny, I had not 845 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,880 now that I've seen the logo for world of game design, I I know 846 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,920 that I've seen it before, but I've never really went and 847 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,440 shopped there. But I do have to say, all the 848 00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,960 problems in the world is such an absolutely fantastic shop. 849 00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:02,240 It's it makes me so sad. I have to pay international 850 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,640 shipping, but I've bought so much stuff from them just 851 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,520 because they have such like rare cool stuff. 852 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,840 So absolutely, wherever you are in the world, all the problems 853 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,800 in the world isn't is such a is such a cool, a cool little shot, 854 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,720 but a world of game design, like you said. 855 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:16,800 Now, now that I've seen it, I'm gonna spend too much money here, 856 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,520 but that's cool for for being in the OS2. 857 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,440 But yeah, as you said, you know, this project, it looks 858 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,960 fantastic. I'm very excited to get it, very 859 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,520 excited to get everything that you put out. 860 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,920 It's really fantastic. You know, this is the second 861 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,960 time you've been on the show. I have a feeling it won't be the 862 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,800 last time you come on the show. So I just want to say thank you 863 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:39,040 so much for for coming on for for, you know, talking to us 864 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,400 about how power. I know you got a bunch of other 865 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,760 interviews going on this week. So appreciate you coming on here 866 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,920 to talk to us about it and excited for other people to 867 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,560 check out those other things. But again, just want to say 868 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,960 thank you for for being here. Well, thank you for having me. 869 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,080 It's always a pleasure and I'll be more than happy to talk with 870 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:01,480 you time and time again. Even I don't have anything I can 871 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,880 talk this shit and and it will be a pleasure to to you know, 872 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,040 spend some time with you guys. So thank you so much. 873 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,840 I feel like you're never gonna not have something going on, 874 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,000 though. I feel like that's where we're 875 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,720 at right now. But yeah, so that's been us. 876 00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:16,800 This has been help Power will make sure all the links to all 877 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,400 Power stuff and to Help Power are in the description below. 878 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,200 Thank you so much, everyone. Have a good day. 879 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:22,520 Bye. Bye.