1 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,960 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll podcast. 2 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,480 My Name Is Ryan. And I'm the death of the golden 3 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,920 age of tabletop RPGs. Oh man, welcome, welcome, 4 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,439 welcome to the first episode of 2024. 5 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:33,560 Start with the banger there, dude. 6 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,160 That's probably going to be. This is my it'll be my best 7 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:40,720 intro of the year, it'll date this episode, but anytime anyone 8 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,760 who knows us comes in like listens this episode, they're 9 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,600 going to be like, oh, I know what that is alluding to, so. 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,640 I love. I love that. 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,480 I love that. That's us. 12 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:53,160 We're we, we are New Year. What did I say? 13 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:54,320 New Year. New Time. 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,960 Same idiots. Here on the Weekly Scroll 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,080 podcast. This will probably be our normal 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,319 tabletop role-playing game review time going forward. 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,520 Thursdays around 10:00 in the morning, we're we're condensing 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,920 some stuff, some schedules changed and that's us. 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,000 That's it. That's it. 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,760 Have a good day. Y'all. 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,680 Yeah, we're bringing that joke into 2024 Two. 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,200 Yep, it's it's coming with us. I'm also going to stop trying to 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,520 scream into the mic in 2024. Not gonna happen. 24 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,280 I'm gonna try. Before you get this though, I'm 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:29,880 gonna try. I'm. 26 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:31,720 Gonna try a grown hair this year. 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:32,960 Do it. I'm just I'm. 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,000 Hearing him back, full, full head of hair. 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,280 You're almost there, buddy. Yeah, I'm so close. 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,280 All right, so today on the Weekly Scroll podcast, we are 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:53,040 looking at the job the Andre Novoa of Games Omnivorous. 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:02:00,920 Let me turn the blur off of this for just a hot 2nd so you can 33 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,240 see this a little bit more clear. 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,040 How beautiful is this book, dude? 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,920 Oh, do you? Say I? 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,759 Yeah, it's great. Yeah. 37 00:02:08,759 --> 00:02:10,560 It's a really, really. Very good one. 38 00:02:11,039 --> 00:02:14,560 So this is one for the podcast listeners out there that you 39 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,440 should at the very least go to games on nervous.com and look 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,000 at. You should just also come to our 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,520 YouTube and subscribe and watch, watch the episode. 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,680 But it's such a beautiful book. It is. 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,040 It's a it's a very thin book. I love that. 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,760 It's hard cover though. I think it's perfect for this 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,360 and it's perfect for games. I'm nervous they don't not make 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,440 good stuff. You should definitely listen to 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,960 our our our interview with Andrey from games. 48 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,600 I'm nervous. Great, talking about if. 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,520 I do say something. Myself. 50 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,560 Oh, such a how. First of all, how great was he? 51 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,240 And just. Amazing. 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,240 I mean, it was just really, it's a really great interview because 53 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,240 he did all the talking and was very illuminating about the 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,960 process and I was like, this is amazing, so. 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Yeah, we can just sit back and listen to someone who is like at 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,640 the top of what we like, talk about why they are that and it 57 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:03,120 was fantastic. So the job this. 58 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,640 Book is fantastic. Yeah it's a it's a cream colored 59 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:10,320 cover and it's got a a person on the front hauling away giant 60 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,040 diamonds. But the diamonds are it's all 61 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,120 matte except for the diamonds which are a nice shininess and 62 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,840 it just elevates the quality of the book into exactly what you 63 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,760 think game that on rivers would put out the art style all the 64 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,000 way through. The graphic design is amazing. 65 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,560 Again, this is from Andre Novoa. The Now, I'm going to try to say 66 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,560 this right because they put the pronouncement on Blue Sky and 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,520 I'm going to fuck it up and I apologize forever. 68 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,000 But you know one of our favorite graphic designers in teach RPG 69 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,520 space right now is Guilliermi Guntijo, the work in this book? 70 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,520 Insane. Insane. 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,160 Really really, really incredibly strong. 72 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,400 I mean it's it's beautiful to go through this book. 73 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:56,320 It is definitely like it is definitely a love letter to like 74 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,880 graphic design and tabletop RPG is like it's really, it's still 75 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,840 very readable. I wouldn't say it's like a full 76 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:07,480 like complete art book, but it is like no very very high end 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,040 graphic design. Yeah, no, it's still a it's 78 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,160 definitely still a book. But the way that they do the 79 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,519 design throughout and and just the style of the design is 80 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:19,480 really fantastic. What's funny, not what's funny. 81 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,680 One thing is when I first saw the previews of this when games, 82 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,840 I'm never just posting it. I think I even literally 83 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:30,040 commented like as soon as I saw this, I was like, oh, that looks 84 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,840 like Ontio's work. And then I was like, oh, that is 85 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:33,680 Gontio's work because it looked like, I don't know if you've 86 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,560 ever seen one of Gontio's games. It's called Blurred Lines. 87 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,120 It's it's got a similar vibe to it. 88 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:46,040 So it looks it definitely is reminiscent of this, but this is 89 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,920 this is great, so why don't we why don't we get into it and 90 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,080 show the people how cool this is? 91 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 So the job is a heist game, right? 92 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,200 It's about you're running a heist. 93 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,520 Are you a heist game guy? Ryan I'm. 94 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,280 Not, I'm not. Here's the thing I I I hate 95 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:07,680 heists. And but I like this game because 96 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:13,320 what I don't like about most heist games is it to me. 97 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,880 I don't know. I I feel like it's very 98 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,800 difficult to do a heist game without doing a railroad in 99 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,640 that. Like at any point the GM could 100 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,320 just be like, oh, ten guards come in, you're done. 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,240 You know what I mean? Like, it never feels earned. 102 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,360 It always just feel, and it all feels kind of the same. 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,800 Oh, you have to get past the surveillance and fight one set 104 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,720 of guards, but like, you're still going up in the building. 105 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,680 Like, it's it's this thing that I just don't really enjoy. 106 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,320 And obviously, I'm not a fan of Blades in the Dark. 107 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,240 I think that's that's it. I like a lot of the Forged in 108 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:51,360 the Dark. I don't like the flashback 109 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,320 mechanic of like, the heist thing. 110 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,880 I think that Dusk Wall is a fucking awesome setting and it's 111 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,920 very weird to just do weird heist stuff in like a setting 112 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,960 full of like magic, current of the centuries stuff to just be 113 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,800 like let's just do hikes. So it's flashbacks. 114 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,800 I think it'd be better as a standard RPG setting. 115 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,400 So to answer your question, no I generally don't like heists but 116 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:19,880 the way that the job does. But what do you like about them? 117 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,920 Not did you like? What do you like about a regular 118 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,640 I? Listen, I like the whole 119 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:28,320 flashbacks thing. I'm a big I love Ocean's 11, and 120 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,160 if you're listening to this right now and you're like 121 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,400 Hunter, you have terrible taste. I don't care what you think. 122 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,040 Ocean's I think sometimes just yeah, I think sometimes you just 123 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,640 make enjoying a movie makes it good. 124 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:43,600 I really like Ocean's 11. Like I I I like the and the job 125 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,200 does this really well as we go through it. 126 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,920 Like the crew dynamic, like, yeah, you have a grease man, you 127 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,320 get the pickpocket, you get the con on it and they all fill 128 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,480 their little roles. I find it enjoyable. 129 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,720 I like Blades in the Dark more than you, but I wouldn't say 130 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,920 that I love it. I do really like this game. 131 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:06,480 But my question is, what other game than the job does a good 132 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,840 crew heist thing? 05 E Fuck off. 133 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,880 Hey, listen, the golden age is over, you know. 134 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,000 Oh yeah, it's definitely not the dumbest take I've ever heard. 135 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:25,240 But yeah. So there aren't a a ton of heist 136 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,760 games, but there should be. Do more, make more heist games. 137 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,480 I just think that any games that are really doing heists, most of 138 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:42,320 them don't do heist well and rely too much on manipulation of 139 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,240 rules as opposed to rules that support the heist. 140 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,520 You know what I mean? Like, it's a lot of combat games 141 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,560 that do that a lot that have like a sneak mechanic, you know 142 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:53,640 what I mean? That's about it. 143 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,840 I like the the idea of like giving the player characters 144 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,640 like ownership over part of the narrative to where they can 145 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:07,280 manipulate it, so you know. Yeah. 146 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,120 Something. Again, the caveat to saying I 147 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,800 don't like heists is I don't like them because of all the 148 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,400 reasons I just said I love. I would love to run the job 149 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,480 because it does all the things that I just said. 150 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,720 So let's let's hop in and take a peek and kind of dig through 151 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,640 this. So again, the cover, gorgeous 152 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,920 piece of graphic design, but again the cover of the actual 153 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,600 book with with that you know the the the different treatment on 154 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,280 the diamonds definitely has an elevation. 155 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,320 But how? How clean and beautiful is that? 156 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,440 Yeah. Definitely hits you with a lot 157 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,360 of that like late 70s, early 80s graphic design vibe. 158 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,280 The whole way through Definitely lends to the like. 159 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,360 The original Ocean's 11. The original Italian Job. 160 00:08:53,320 --> 00:09:01,080 Thinking of it also kind of reminds me of, oh gosh, I'm not 161 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,800 thinking the Pink Panther, but like something for there's 162 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,040 something anime if not like time period, that also does this very 163 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,640 like kind of like big block color, is it? 164 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,640 Yeah, I don't know. Something. 165 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,800 And the whole and and the design to to help to to talk to the 166 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,680 audience. This little bit, it's all like, 167 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:22,120 it's also solid colors. Like it's solid colors mostly 168 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,680 shapes. You know, a lot of like straight 169 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:27,920 lines or like one big solid curve on the sun. 170 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,400 But it it's, it's a specific style you have to check out. 171 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,360 But as soon as you see it, you go oh OK And then even the the 172 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,480 page on the inside, I love this too with the guy sneaking 173 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,720 towards like the little diamond and all of the blocks. 174 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,280 But that's like the dice going around, which we get to such a 175 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:46,120 great piece here, and then we get to the job. 176 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,600 A game of glorious heist and everything that can go wrong in 177 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,840 them from games. Omnivorous. 178 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,080 Seriously. This, this, this feels like a 179 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,160 small thing that they kind of threw out at the end of the year 180 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:05,200 and I love it so much, like. Yeah, I definitely think it. 181 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,840 I feel like, I mean, I know people are aware of it, but I 182 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,920 think it deserves more noise around it. 183 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,320 I wonder. I also, I kind of wonder too a 184 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,000 little bit. And then me. 185 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,640 I'm totally wrong. And you can tell me if I am 186 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,800 Andre, but I kind of feel like Andre usually does a lot of like 187 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,400 the production, the behind the scenes stuff and really put 188 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,040 something out. And I kind of almost wonder if 189 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,120 he's just like, oh, it's just my thing. 190 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,160 I don't really need to push it too hard and just kind of like 191 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,280 put it out there. You know what I mean? 192 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,720 Yeah, But it definitely deserves deserves more. 193 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,080 So. Credits and acknowledges. 194 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,440 Page obviously concept and running. 195 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,200 Andre Nuvo. Like we said, graphic design and 196 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,480 gilier. Megan Tijo art stolen from the 197 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,960 public domain editing and proof reading by Walton Wood, 198 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,520 fantastic editor. There's some play testers, some 199 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,720 special thanks especially to Andre Tavares and Emma Acosta 200 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,760 for the incredible feedback. Emma Costell does some great 201 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,800 work, check them out as well. And acknowledgement. 202 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:59,200 I really like this cuz there's a kind of a ludalogy of game 203 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,560 design fiasco for the cinematographic story game 204 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:06,840 design Dread for the tumbling block tower. 205 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,160 Yeah, Tin candles for the minimalist character creation 206 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,240 apocalypse world for the 2D6 narrative system. 207 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,760 It's not a PBTA game. Leverage for the heist theme. 208 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,680 Honey Heist for the minimalist heist themed RPG. 209 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:20,040 You know, I've never even read Honey Heist. 210 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,320 I'm a huge fan, I actually. Was thinking that I read this. 211 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,720 Have read The Bear is always at the top of Itch and I just 212 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,000 haven't got around to it. I own so much Rowan, Rook and 213 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,000 Deckard and Grant. How it's stuff that I really 214 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,360 just need to read it. And then there's a huge list of 215 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,480 movies that. Really, really good movies on 216 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:39,360 this. List Yeah. 217 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,720 Thomas Crown Affair, Ocean's 11. Italian Job, Inside Man. 218 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,840 Inception. Now you see me. 219 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,240 Logan Lucky baby driver. Lupin, obviously. 220 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,600 Kaleidoscope. The asphalt jungle top, yeah. 221 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,840 There's a lot of really good movies, and there's also Now You 222 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,800 See Me. Yeah, you know what? 223 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,960 As a as I, it makes sense. Like there's a lot of the heist 224 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,040 set up. No, totally. 225 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,000 Let me. Do this like magic card that 226 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,920 flies around 10 yards. It's definitely a heist movie. 227 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:11,520 I just once when I was like, I don't know, 22, like on a date 228 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,560 with a girl, like her place and she let her pick the movie and 229 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:17,320 she picked the inside job and I just remember like 45 minutes 230 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,560 and we looked at each other and she was like, I'm really sorry. 231 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,600 Nice. Yeah. 232 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,600 So first printing 500 copies. That's it. 233 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,640 That's one thing I love too. It really hits me in that weird 234 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,280 douche bag or you spark part of me that says they'd love small 235 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,280 print runs. So I can later be like, ha ha, I 236 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,720 have one of those, you know? Yeah, you are a staunch 237 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,720 collector. I am, yeah. 238 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,080 I got two of these. So moving on to the day of, the 239 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,880 contents which is not hyperlinked are the. 240 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,480 Bookmarks I actually didn't even look. 241 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,720 There are bookmarks, but there are no hyperlinks unless I'm 242 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,720 clicking. Wrong. 243 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,320 Nope. No hyperlinks. 244 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,120 Dismiss. I don't know what I just did. 245 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,160 I didn't want to highlight that this is long enough. 246 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,200 I think it would be nice to have hyperlinks in here, but it's 247 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,040 also pretty light the whole way through. 248 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,240 So whatever that has bookmarks, I'll take it. 249 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,480 There's a player rules, there's a crew section, the budget 250 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,280 section, the preparation section, the action, and that's 251 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,480 all just player rules. And then there's a whole referee 252 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,960 section, which is talking about referring the job, the escape, 253 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,720 creating briefs, compatibility in the plan sheet. 254 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,720 So really the rules of the game beginning to end for the most 255 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,440 part, are only about 20-3 pages long. 256 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:39,360 Yeah, and then a lot of really good references for the for the 257 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:44,000 referee to to help their side of the of the heist go forward. 258 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,480 So it's like 20-3 pages for the rules, but like nine of those 259 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,400 are just characters. You know, it's such a light 260 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,200 game, but there's so much steps that can be had in it. 261 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,080 That's great. So what is this? 262 00:13:55,080 --> 00:14:00,920 This is what I here's the thing. I love a what is this way more 263 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,480 than like a what is an RPG section. 264 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,120 There's the start of movies don't have a what is a movie 265 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,440 like commercial. You know if you're playing on 266 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,320 RPG in order RPG. So what is this job is an RPG. 267 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,640 Boom. That's what it is. 268 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,920 What? Do you think I was gonna say, I, 269 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,280 I we've said this several times and I think that there's like an 270 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,320 interesting discussion to be had there about like movies don't 271 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,240 open with that. But I feel like that is like, 272 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,520 well, there's kind of this understanding about what the 273 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,880 movie is by it being this ubiquitous experience that we 274 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,880 all have watching a movie. Not that everyone's played a 275 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,760 tabletop game, but that's just me talking about that. 276 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,280 Thought so. Yeah, but I think we've also 277 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,120 talked about the games that need it and the games that don't like 278 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,400 this. Is very true. 279 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,000 This is not a game that needs it. 280 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 I'm glad they didn't have it. But again, I think we've talked 281 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,360 over and over again. Mouse Reader is one of our 282 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:52,360 favorite games and what is a TTRPG section in Mouse Reader is 283 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,960 important because it could be a lot of people's first game. 284 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,520 So I think it's. I don't think the job from Games 285 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:04,920 Omnivorous is gonna be a lot of people's first and especially 286 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,560 not the referee that decides to pick this up. 287 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,800 But what is this? It's a table top game. 288 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,960 You need some people. You need some dice. 289 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,640 The rules in the book offer guidelines and tools. 290 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,480 The game has a clear objective. You pull off a heist. 291 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:18,920 You either do it or you don't. That's it. 292 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,920 But not doing it can be just as memorable. 293 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,760 So don't worry. If you're caught, it's a story 294 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,720 that counts. One of you must take the role of 295 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,760 the referee. The referee follows a clear set 296 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,000 of procedures. They run the heist for the 297 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,120 players and present trouble that may arise. 298 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,560 The referee exist to make the story memorable, not to make the 299 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,440 player's lives miserable. That should be. 300 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,440 In a lot of books the other players take on the roles of a 301 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,680 caper crew, Each of you a specific role and teamwork is of 302 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,120 the essence. Make sure you prepare the heist 303 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,040 well, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 304 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,320 So the requirements. I love this page like the the 305 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,760 the the goggles here with the eyes on it. 306 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,280 Such play a sheet, a crew member sheet or a piece of paper, 70s 307 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,520 funk music, spare paper for taking notes, a bunch of 6 sided 308 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,920 dice. This is interesting. 309 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,600 At least ten of them, and they must have edges circa 15mm and 310 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,040 rounded corners. I'm like that's very specific, 311 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,840 but I assume it's because of the stack. 312 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,600 Yeah, it's for the stack. Yeah, it makes sense. 313 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,440 It makes. Sense like it's size, dice that 314 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,680 are like flat all the way to the edges, you're going to stack it 315 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,400 to the seedling. Absolutely, man. 316 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,080 I I was thinking most about the edges like yeah, I guess if it 317 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,720 has like very cornered, the corners are sharp, it's like 318 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,800 easier to stack. Your rounded corners are going 319 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,200 to slide. So Dice Stack is cool, yeah? 320 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,120 Yeah, we'll get we'll get to the dice stack, how to read this 321 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:43,880 book with your eyes and A and AI don't know 10th grade American 322 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,720 education, I guess is that when they're familiar, players should 323 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,600 read the rules for character creation, budget preparation, 324 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,320 etcetera. Referees should carefully read, 325 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,000 etcetera. So going through the basics, 326 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,880 again, just scrolling down the bottom real quick to look at the 327 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,400 graphic design at the bottom of this page. 328 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:04,680 My goodness, I love the the red yellow theme throughout. 329 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:09,560 The entire thing is absolutely stunning and just this quasi 330 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:15,599 poster style with the like the guy on the left and everything 331 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,800 like that. It really collaging in all of 332 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,760 these scenes is fantastic. The the guard or the cop with 333 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,440 the with like broken glass over it, the upset on bus and stuff. 334 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,319 It's just vibes. Vibes for days. 335 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:30,000 We don't, we it's a book, so we're not rating vibes this 336 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,680 time. But if we were rating vibes, I 337 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,760 mean I think the art and this definitely reinforces that like 338 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:42,000 70s heist vibe really well. Super Bowl, You feel it the 339 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,440 entire time. And not only that, the the 340 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,920 actual layout of the book is extremely readable all the way 341 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,440 through. Like the font choice, the the 342 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,840 mostly black on white or there's never a time. 343 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,040 There's really like not a harsh contrast and a good way for for 344 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,320 reading. So the basics. 345 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,360 The game wins into a narrative play style. 346 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:04,160 The heist is described by the referee as much as the players, 347 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:08,040 the game is played their sequence of scenes, and it's 348 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,160 really broken up into two styles or to two different phases of 349 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,640 play. This is, however, unlike in most 350 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,800 narrative games, the Java is not complex character arcs full of 351 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,440 interpersonal drama between players, et cetera, et cetera. 352 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,120 It's mostly about designing A ridiculously memorable heist and 353 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:28,680 attempting to beat the game. Because this is a THRPG, you can 354 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:33,840 win or lose. It's been takes about 3 hours, 1 355 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,080 1/2 for each section. So the first is Preparation 356 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,600 phase. Players receive a brief, which 357 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,240 we'll go over later, detailing the location that they're 358 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,840 robbing, the object they're stealing and their budget and 359 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,440 six known complications. And then the preparation phase 360 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:56,440 is them planning out 12 scenes across to to that deals with 361 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,480 those six complications throughout the preparation 362 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,560 phase. And then basically you hand that 363 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,040 detailed plan to the referee who has been listening the whole 364 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,160 time and taking notes on what could go wrong. 365 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,680 You hand that to the referee and that is in the preparation phase 366 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,760 and then you go to the action phase and that's where the 367 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,320 referee actually guides the players through the scenes that 368 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,400 they had planned out and they're going to be dice rolls based on 369 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,880 on character abilities and things that happened throughout. 370 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:31,200 And then there is the dice stack which which will surprise you 371 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,840 with a little bit and that takes about another hour and a half. 372 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,280 So it's a 3 hour game total. Would love to play this, Can't 373 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,400 wait just. It's just how do you do this 374 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,640 digitally? Unless you have one elected dice 375 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,480 stacker, you know, which is fine. 376 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,800 Yeah, I think that's the, you know, that's that's the answer, 377 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,800 yeah. But I think you could definitely 378 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,240 do it. Yeah, I mean, it really comes 379 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,960 down to that's it. It's like you just the only 380 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,320 reason you have to be together is for the dice. 381 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,840 So I mean that could also be part of character creation is 382 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,520 like who's got the steady hands quote, UN quote and like you get 383 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,440 to be the stacker, you know, let me get to the crew. 384 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:14,040 The crew. The crew I you're after the good 385 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,000 stuff. Gems. 386 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,440 Diamonds. Gold bullion. 387 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,960 A Picasso painting. Faberge eggs. 388 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,840 The Crete. The Queen's crown. 389 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,800 Nothing short will do. You live fast, You think fast. 390 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,080 You move fast. The one thing that scares you is 391 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,360 getting caught. Not because prison per SE. 392 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,120 You could pull off escape anyway, but because of the 393 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,280 endless shame creating characters. 394 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,440 Pretty simple, right? You're going to choose from one 395 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,760 of the eight available roles. There's no repeating roles, 396 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,080 which I do love that. Print the respective sheet, 397 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,480 choose the name of the parents, study your role stunts and make 398 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,960 sure you use them during the heist and start playing. 399 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,680 Where are the sets? Also in the center. 400 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Another great like very collagey, like 70s like movie 401 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,280 poster. Everyone stand in and someone's 402 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,680 like gone out. Very implies a lot of action and 403 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,640 it looks great. I also, I really like the 404 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,000 there's a lot of times throughout this section where 405 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,800 they have these like asides in the book where that are this 406 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,520 like cursive writing and I feel like it's a really good change 407 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,880 of pace. It also adds to it, but like 408 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,520 that thing that says print the sheet or don't and there's a 409 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,120 whole explanation on like it's literally so simple. 410 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:29,400 You have to write down like 4 things. 411 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,240 So if you don't want to print the sheet like you don't have 412 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,040 to, which is great. But those little asides, I think 413 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,240 are so like Vibey 2 because it's in this curse of like 414 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,560 handwriting. It almost looks like someone 415 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,160 took the person wrote a note in it. 416 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,120 It's so good. It's so good. 417 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,840 Got the official heist info and a little note written by your 418 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,880 like a contactor, you know? But yeah, where are the stats? 419 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,640 So there aren't traditional stats in this game. 420 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,200 Yeah, the stuff you do is pretty much defined by stunts and 421 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,520 inventory. So you need to be aware of what 422 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,560 those are and like how to use them in the heist. 423 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:05,480 This design choice has two reasons this game is meant. 424 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,040 Oh yeah, that's right. This game is meant for one shot. 425 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,600 It's not like a you're not building a character long term. 426 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,080 The second a big part of the game is the Preparation phase 427 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,600 phase, which replaces traditional character creation, 428 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,600 planning, the heist itself. Having them both would add too 429 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,040 much time to this game. Imagine if you like had to, like 430 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,560 spend like an hour building a character and then preparation 431 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:33,040 phase is an hour and a half. And then, yeah, it's much 432 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,080 better, much more lightweight for what this is. 433 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:37,480 Yeah. And this is when we get to 434 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,040 characterization like we'll we'll we'll talk about it more. 435 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,000 But like I this is what I was talking about in the beginning 436 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,440 whereas like this is a game designed to do this versus a 437 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,640 game that you can try to do this in. 438 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,640 You know what I mean? Like I don't need to know a 439 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,360 decks and a strength and all that sort of stuff because do 440 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:56,560 you know the dexterity of Frank of Was is a Frank Ocean? 441 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,080 Johnny Ocean? Tim Ocean What's his name? 442 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,680 Frank Ocean is is the artist is Danny Ocean Danny. 443 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,240 Ocean. That's what it is. 444 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,800 But now I'm only going to call him Frank Ocean. 445 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,320 So. Do we do we need to know his 446 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,840 dexterity or his strength? Or do we just know what he can 447 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,600 do? Yeah, no, because they have a 448 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,160 grease man for all the dexterous stuff, you know? 449 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,440 Exactly. And that's. 450 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,800 But that's what he can do. And none of these people are 451 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,240 superheroes. So I love that. 452 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,000 There's no stats. Who cares about any of that 453 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,160 crap? Just tell me what you can do. 454 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,480 What? What can you do for me? 455 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,480 You know what I mean? Like what? 456 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,680 What? What can you bring to the job? 457 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:36,520 So what do they bring you? Down so let's we're going to 458 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,760 read through 1 character. Let's do the pickpocket. 14 is 459 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,160 on the page OK but the RI mean if we want to stop and they 460 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,720 still look at the R as we scroll through the and the character is 461 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,640 really very good. Well, we could also just do like 462 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,200 a quick like what? Like what each one is and then 463 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,160 go fully over 1 so people know what all the classes are. 464 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,560 So the animal handler. Also, the names are going to be 465 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,480 very indicative, but I'll read the little blurb because they're 466 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,760 good. You're the Tiger King, the Dog 467 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,200 whisperer, the ultimate bear Wrangler. 468 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,000 You speak in animal and you know how to train them for grandiose 469 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,560 heist. People see you as an eccentric, 470 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,280 but who isn't really. And then there's a quote. 471 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,240 I believe in integrity. Dogs have it. 472 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,120 And it says wash your hands on the character art. 473 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,120 It's like petting like, is that a Gator? 474 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,480 Yeah, he's petting a Gator belly, Yeah. 475 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,440 Just just wash your hands next to it. 476 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,240 Funny. You know this reptiles spread E 477 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,320 coli man. This is the one character class 478 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,920 that stood out to me in the heist because I would have never 479 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,640 thought about having an animal handler in the heist. 480 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,880 But it totally, I mean it totally works it. 481 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,800 Totally works, and I'm sure that it's in one of the heist movies 482 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,960 that I haven't seen. I'm not thinking of. 483 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,920 Yeah, totally. But of all the ones, like, 484 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,440 you're right, like I was when I got to this as the very first 485 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,720 one, I was just like, well, I think they're alphabetical, I 486 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,280 think is what it is. But I was like, oh, that's 487 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,920 interesting. But also that's awesome. 488 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,960 Like you could just, like, pull a mouse out of your pocket and 489 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,720 have it go run an errand. Like that's dope. 490 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,320 Yeah, it's a very good idea. I liked it a lot. 491 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,640 Definitely not within my own head cannon of heist. 492 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,600 But I'm like, oh, maybe I'll add that to my internal iced head 493 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,560 cannon. The next one is going to be the 494 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,200 boss. This is your your Frank Ocean. 495 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,040 The boss. You pull the strings, call the 496 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,240 shots. You dress well, talk well, and 497 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,120 seduce well. You are all the Danny oceans, 498 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:43,080 Frank Ocean of the world. Scotch on the rocks and ace up 499 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:49,680 the sleeve people like you, even if they don't. 13 million and 500 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,000 you drive this piece of shit to pick me up? 501 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,920 The boss Great. I. 502 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,520 Think they're saying I'm a lot today I can tell I'm sleepy. 503 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,000 That's a sign of me being sleepy. 504 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,800 I have a card here that reminds me not to say I'm all the time 505 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,200 and I still say it all the fucking time. 506 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,120 The boss is cool. I think they're big stunt. 507 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,120 Everyone gets four and we'll we'll go over one more in 508 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:12,360 detail. But the boss's big stunt is that 509 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:15,400 they can get you one ridiculous piece of transportation. 510 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,040 Not a car, but literally like a helicopter, a fucking jumbo jet 511 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,960 or some shit like that. That's like the one thing that 512 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,640 they they bring everything together, but they also they get 513 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,520 that one big fucking that one big thing, the helicopter, you 514 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,360 know? The tank. 515 00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:30,480 This is just always a tank. The tank. 516 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,960 Yeah. The bruiser. 517 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,520 You're a thug, a hooligan, a mean machine. 518 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,040 Working as a bouncer is not exactly your dream job, nor 519 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,960 beating punks for the local mafia. 520 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,160 So here you are, taking orders, making millions and crushing 521 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,240 bone. Let me stop here. 522 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,120 Right there. Literally. 523 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,160 I love the the Don't touch Her across. 524 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,040 Yeah, I can tell you right now though, like when you think of 525 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,520 the Bruiser and the Heist movie, what do you think of I? 526 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,240 Think the Bruiser and the Heist movie. 527 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,920 I don't know who's one. Person one person immediately 528 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,400 comes in my head. It's that one. 529 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,720 It's that one British dude who was like an ex soccer player who 530 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,640 like doesn't talk in like fast, like the like gone in 60 531 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,960 seconds, but he's in like all of them as like the guy that. 532 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,720 Beats everybody up. 100% the Dude That Will. 533 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,960 Always pop my head. Gone in 60 seconds since I was 534 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,440 like a child. And I've I've it's fine. 535 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,120 Nick Cage. Yeah, I love that weird blonde 536 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,320 Angelina Jolie. Yeah, yeah. 537 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,120 I love how in every Nick Cage movie, he's always like, it's 538 00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:46,120 time to get caged, you know? OK, next I. 539 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:52,600 Visited I visited his his grave, future, grave in New Orleans. 540 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,920 Oh yeah, Do you know? That guy. 541 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Is is a Coppola? Is he? 542 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,840 A Coppola. Yeah, like Francis Ford Coppola. 543 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like the nephew or some 544 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,280 shit over one of them. Yeah, he's like a A Yeah, Yes, 545 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,440 but. Super random 32nd aside, in New 546 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,160 Orleans you can't bury people because it's too wet and the 547 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,400 coffins just Bob up to the top of the surface. 548 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,240 That's the reason. No, it is. 549 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,000 Vampires. Yeah, well, yeah. 550 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,720 Also vampires. Yeah, but so everything is 551 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,840 mausoleums down there. So when you go on tours, you can 552 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,600 actually tour through the mausoleums. 553 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,960 Freaking. Nick Cage has a pyramid as a 554 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,160 future mausoleum for him, and when he was bankrupt, he lost 555 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,120 everything except for his fucking pyramid mausoleum, 556 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,960 because I can't take it away from UPI, because there's some 557 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,320 law about like death stuff or whatever. 558 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,760 And obviously I got tons of money again. 559 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,240 But yeah, you can go visit his future pyramid grave site in a 560 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,800 New Orleans mausoleum graveyard. I I respect his eccentricity. 561 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,720 You. Know hardcore, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 562 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,880 So it comes of the community. The con artist. 563 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,120 Confidence games. Schemes. 564 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,720 Ripoffs, scams and stratagems. Fake passports, fake bills and 565 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,440 fake IDs. Multiple identities. 566 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880 Endless connections. This is where you thrive. 567 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,440 And these waters. You're the shark. 568 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,200 Catch me if you can. This is a good one. 569 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,440 I always really like a con artist. 570 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,400 I like. I like a likable liar, you know? 571 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,760 Yeah, the genius. You were the brightest in your 572 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,160 class. At age 10, you hacked into your 573 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,240 school teacher's computer. At age 14, you hacked into the 574 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,200 government database. People seem petty and trivial to 575 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,000 you. Limited, one might say. 576 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,240 Pull the plug on that laptop and we're all dead. 577 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,000 It's your little hacker hacker character. 578 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:55,080 You know, as much as I love playing a wizard, the like, real 579 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,160 world equivalent of being like a genius hacker does not ever 580 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,440 appeal to me quite as much. You know, like you'd think like 581 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,360 that. I feel like that's the most 582 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,520 comparable thing to a wizard when you're playing like a more 583 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,840 grounded, A realistic game as like a genius hacker, but like. 584 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,000 No. You don't think so? 585 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,520 If I if, if I was playing a grounded game like. 586 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:24,240 Because when I think of Wizards more than anything, like either 587 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,240 my mind goes to like dark warlock occult bullshit or goes 588 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,960 to just fucking weird old dude that collected too much weird 589 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,560 old shit. Like I think of the wizard from 590 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,960 like the sword and the stone when he goes and he's like 591 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,840 bubbling and shit's like popping all over the place. 592 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,080 So it would be to me, it would be more of like a like an 593 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,360 eccentric collector, you know what I mean? 594 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,440 Did you say the wizard in the Sword of the Stone like Merlin? 595 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,040 Yeah, that guy. OK, it's just like like, yeah, 596 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,640 you know that one obscure wizard in Merlin? 597 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,640 That one guy, I don't know if you've heard of him before, he 598 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:05,360 from this old story. Actually also a pretty decent 599 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,040 show. Great. 600 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,640 That's such a fucking. Yeah, it's like, it's one of 601 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,960 those sci-fi underrated series, You know that was on sci-fi, 602 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,840 right? Oh, you're talking about the 603 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,280 show where he's young and shit. I never finished it, but it was 604 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,360 really good. I really like. 605 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,200 It's a pretty like, it's not like ground breaking, but the 606 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,960 whole time through you're like this is pretty good. 607 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,600 So yeah, it took me an episode or two to be like, oh, that's 608 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:35,320 not Giles from Buffy. But but yeah, it was good. 609 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,080 I I enjoyed it. I watched multiple seasons of 610 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:37,360 it. It was. 611 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360 It was actually, yeah, underrated and really good. 612 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,920 The Grease Man. You were once an Olympic 613 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,360 medalist or a circus Acrobat or a failed stuntman. 614 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,360 No one really knows, to be honest. 615 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,480 No one really cares. You squeeze at the tightest 616 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,440 faces, and that's what matters. Can anyone Get Me Out of here? 617 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,440 Love the Grease Man. Probably the pickpocket's my 618 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,400 favorite, but this is my second favorite. 619 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,840 I just like the weird, nimble guy, you know? 620 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,240 Yeah. Oh yeah, 'cause his some of his 621 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,600 stuff, like the boneless one and stuff like if you can explain 622 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,040 it, you can pop out of any piece of furniture like. 623 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,360 In oh, I feel like the. The Grease Man in one of the 11 624 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,960 movies, I think was it where the it's always. 625 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,040 The same guy. The little Asian guy, like, 626 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,400 packed himself. And he's not all of them. 627 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,280 So, Oh yeah, the the first one's when he gets into the box. 628 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,160 Yeah, yeah. So he's a great grease man. 629 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:38,440 Yeah. Onto the pickpocket. 630 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,640 Huh? Interesting. 631 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,800 On to the pickpocket. Your grandma once lost you in 632 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,120 the mall, and when you came back with three and you came back 633 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,720 with three wristwatches. Five years later, your BF FS 634 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,320 mom's diamond necklace vanished. Everyone blames you. 635 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,920 And they were right. Here you are. 636 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,400 Now you see it. Now you. 637 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,120 That's the quote. Yeah, that's that's the whole 638 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,280 thing. That's right. 639 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,080 That's right. Do you want to go ahead and go 640 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,480 through this one? Because it's the one I want to 641 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,960 go through. Yeah, do you want me to read it? 642 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,640 Yeah, go for. It so yeah, character sheet, 643 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560 this is, this is pretty much you give the character sheet, so you 644 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,120 get that little word at the top. Yeah, it's got that got them at 645 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,040 the top you get, you write down your name, you write down your 646 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,640 appearance and there are 4 stunts that you get and you get 647 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,800 all of them. You can use them and most of the 648 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160 stunts throughout each one, a lot of them give you, it's a 649 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,040 little bit different, but a lot of them give you kind of like 2 650 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,600 for the action phase and two kind of like bigger almost like 651 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,320 meta or preparation phase things. 652 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,320 And then at the bottom of each one is the same, kind of like 653 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,880 briefcase with four items cause the inventory is important and I 654 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,000 really like that through. But for the pickpocket the four 655 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200 stunt you get one is pickpocketing to get advantage 656 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,080 and actions that involve stealing a small object from any 657 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,600 target, particularly when the target is in close proximity or 658 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,360 buy like contact which is perfect for the pickpocket 659 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,639 steal. I'll get to that one. 660 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,560 Next let me do safecracking advantage and actions that 661 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,480 involve delicate tasks like picking locks or complex 662 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,480 mechanisms, setting up detonators or tinkering with 663 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,760 delicate equipment and the likes. 664 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,440 Then there's Magic Tricks, which I thought was interesting for 665 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,080 the pickpocket. I felt like this was a little 666 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,600 bit more of a comment thing, that it makes sense for this 667 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,360 guy. Magic Tricks is choose a magic 668 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,840 trick, cards, dice, or even sawing someone in half. 669 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,679 Whenever you perform it, you have advantage to impress and 670 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:40,040 install an entire audience. And then the final one, and I 671 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,159 love this, is Steal the Stack once during the action phase if 672 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,600 the stack, which we'll get to if the stack reaches 6 or more 673 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,480 dice, you may steal one die from it. 674 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,960 If the stack falls, it counts as a collapse. 675 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,960 Narrate your intervention, love it. 676 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,360 It's great. One of my other favorite moves 677 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,520 because I love the meta aspect of it too. 678 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:09,080 If we go back to the Bruiser, they have a move called Happy 679 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,440 Birthday Punk. Once during the action phase you 680 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,720 may blow on the dice stack and remove all dice that fall from 681 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:18,480 the stack. And you have to narrate how you 682 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,240 intervene to de escalate so you can lose these facts and knock 683 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:24,080 over the whole stack and like potentially save a stack if you 684 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,360 can blow hard enough on the dice. 685 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,920 That has a really very, I like, I like that you have to narrate 686 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,880 it too. Like, I like how's the bruiser, 687 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,040 how's the bruiser come through and de escalate. 688 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,320 It's like, well, the way a bruiser does, you know. 689 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,200 That's one thing that's through all of these stunts that like 690 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,000 outside of the ones that are like advantage to this specific 691 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,240 thing in a scene, any of the ones that are a little bit more 692 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:49,560 meta like that or or involve like a little bit kind of like 693 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,840 pulled back lens, always say narrate it, narrate it, narrate 694 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,920 it. And throughout the whole book 695 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,160 there's this, there's this thing that says the players like tell 696 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,560 the story just as much as the referee and like they're the 697 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,880 ones coming up with everything, they're doing it and pushing it. 698 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,720 So like I really. Do know there's a really 699 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:12,640 interesting one called What's happening here. 700 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,280 Same kind of thing once during the action phase. 701 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,480 If one of the crew is in trouble, you may appear out of 702 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,760 the blue in that scene and take over the situation. 703 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,240 Describe how you got there. It's so good. 704 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,320 I do. I do love though when we get 705 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,160 later in the book, there are like kind of there are still 706 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,520 rules that apply to that where like it can't be like it it 707 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,320 can't be out of blue. You can't in the previous scene 708 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,960 say that like you weren't even in the building and suddenly be 709 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,920 in the building. There has to be some type of 710 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,640 through line. But I love that. 711 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,960 Like, there's not really like if it's one of your stunts, you 712 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,880 don't have to roll for it to suddenly just like be there. 713 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,840 You can be like, well, I'm doing that, but it makes sense because 714 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,120 I was like next door in the last scene or something. 715 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,880 It's I. It's so good. 716 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,400 Was that the last? Oh, the wheel man. 717 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,520 I forgot about the wheel man. Another one that I actually do 718 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:17,840 often in my internal heist a head can. 719 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,160 And also forget about the wheel man. 720 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,640 Do you ever see Baby Driver? Yeah. 721 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,240 Hell yeah. Hell yeah. 722 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,120 I love I. Haven't seen it, actually, So 723 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,080 oh. Yeah. 724 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,760 It's a good movie. Every person who I say it to is 725 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,080 like, oh, it's really, really good. 726 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,040 It is a good movie. I enjoy it. 727 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,920 Yeah, the wheelman. You're the king of the road. 728 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,240 The traffic lights, terror. No Reds or yellows you see, but 729 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:41,680 the greens? Only one thing turns you on, and 730 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,680 that's the smell of gasoline. Baby groomer has it. 731 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,320 You pour it on your coffee. Need a ride? 732 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,280 I I miss the smell of gasoline. I really do notice you don't 733 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,640 smell anymore. Yeah, I do. 734 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,280 I love the smell of gasoline. I think it smells. 735 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,320 I love the smell of gasoline. Yeah, ever since they put like 736 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,560 all nozzles, now have to have that, like, like the the fume 737 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,360 sucker. It's really disappointing. 738 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,720 Yeah, I mean, I mean, obviously. Good for our bridge, but it 739 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,000 smells. It smells good. 740 00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,080 So the next part. This is so the crew has won. 741 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,160 This is the budget. This is 2. 742 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,760 So the referee tells you your budget for the heist and each 743 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,040 heist the value differs. I think later on they say that 744 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,880 the the kind of standard heist value is usually around 250K, 745 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,440 but the things you can get are extravagant gear, common crap 746 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,880 vehicles. That's pretty self-explanatory. 747 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,840 Extravagant gear really goes to the budget. 748 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,080 Common crap you'd actually don't. 749 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:41,600 A lot of it you don't really need to account for in the 750 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,760 budget common cheap unremarkable equipment that you always have 751 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,800 access to. Well it's not that you don't 752 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,680 have to account for it, it's just that you don't have to do 753 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,840 anything to get it. Like in the setup phase if you 754 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,440 say I have climbing equipment you just have it versus 755 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,400 extravagant gear where like you can't just have a Lamborghini, 756 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,080 you have to explain how you got it. 757 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:01,040 And then vehicles. So common vehicles are always 758 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,200 available at no cost. Oh so I assume the common crab 759 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,680 is no cost in two. Extravagant vehicles are not 760 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,560 available for purchase. The only way to get an 761 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,640 extravagant vehicle, specifically jet engine boats, 762 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,160 jet planes, submarines, helicopters, tanks is the boss 763 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,880 of Stone that says that. So how does your inventory work 764 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,840 And using gear? So each crew member has four 765 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,200 spaces for equipment. You start the game with no 766 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,400 equipment and I love this. It's kind of the same concept as 767 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,280 like gear bubbles and troika and etc. 768 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,240 So during you don't write anything down during the 769 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:34,720 preparation phase or anything like that. 770 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,800 But during the action phase, if you need a piece of gear, you 771 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,280 can just say you have it and then mark it into one of those 772 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,200 four slots. So the only way you can't have 773 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,840 it is if you don't have the budget anymore for that piece of 774 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,200 gear or if you don't have any inventory slots left for that 775 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,560 gear. But if you're in the middle of 776 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,600 doing something and you're like, oh shit, I need safety goggles, 777 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,120 you can just have safety goggles. 778 00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:02,000 You just fill it in. And if safety goggles cost, you 779 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,320 know, 100 bucks, you just mark 100 bucks off the budget. 780 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,120 I love that. The the whole concept of kind of 781 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,600 trying to think of the word that I mean for it's not ephemeral, 782 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,080 but just like it's like Schrodinger's gear. 783 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,720 It's there, but it's not there. You know what I mean? 784 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,560 Kind of thing. I I love that idea. 785 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,920 It's my favorite way to do inventory. 786 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,960 Durf does it with supply. The vanilla game does it with 787 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,760 gear bubbles. Troika does with gear bubbles. 788 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,360 I just love the idea of of the how in the inventory works that 789 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,280 way. So using Gear Gear allows the 790 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,480 crew to perform action that would otherwise be impossible. 791 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,760 For instance, you can shoot someone only if you have a 792 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,880 firearm you can see in the dark only if you have a night vision. 793 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,960 Goggles, you can communicate with each other only if you have 794 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,600 in your comms there are free may give you advantage for having 795 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,400 the right gear, but they may also call for disadvantage if 796 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,240 you use it wrong. So again, I like the idea you're 797 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:48,640 not rolling a deck, you're not rolling this. 798 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,080 If you have night vision goggles you see in the dark, that's it. 799 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,720 And if you don't, you don't. I love that. 800 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,400 It's great. There's a price list here in 801 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,240 most games. I hate that. 802 00:40:57,240 --> 00:40:59,400 I love it in this. It's it's so necessary. 803 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,560 It's the budget is such a huge part of it, so. 804 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,160 It does, yeah. The budget's a whole function. 805 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,320 It does a price list on. This one does make a lot of 806 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,960 sense. It's not a normal TDRBGA because 807 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,200 I don't care how much a shuffle costs in D&D because honestly 808 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,160 I'm either gonna be able to buy it or just murder you and take 809 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,720 it like that's how they say this design. 810 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:19,920 So this is not like that. So and again I love the the 811 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,920 handwriting behind the budget at the bottom but I think the 812 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,560 cheapest thing on here is maybe like 1000 bucks and it's an 813 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,240 electric lighter but it with the Super powerful flight and that's 814 00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,840 that's expensive for an A luxury for for. 815 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:41,760 A lighter, crazy lighter, but an EMP bomb. $1,000,000 Yeah, I 816 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,440 think the most expensive thing after the the $1,000,000 is is 817 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,680 there some $50,000 stuff on here? 818 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,240 There's 150K for 100. For 1:50. 819 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,040 But then you're looking at things like military drones and 820 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,320 and invisibility cloak for 100,000, you know, so there's 821 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,120 some crazy shit, but your budget's blown if you have that 822 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,160 stuff. But I like that they there's a 823 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,960 there's encouragement throughout to get fucking ridiculous and I 824 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,840 enjoy that. So the preparation, so the 825 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,480 referee will slide you the brief. 826 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,920 So the brief is an object, a place, the budget and the 827 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,760 complications. There's an example brief here 828 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,840 that says the Mona Lisa is the object, the place is the Louvre. 829 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,520 The budget is 200 K And the complications, I'm not going to 830 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,640 list all six, but they're for example, security cameras are on 831 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,680 all floors overseen by two officers in a control room 832 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,720 that's a whole. That's one of six complications 833 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,640 triple glass ceiling Dome in the hall of the Mona Lisa. 834 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,440 That's number two door pressure alarms in the in the painting 835 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,920 like like the whole like you know Catherine Zeta Jones dips 836 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,440 beneath lasers kind of situation that that's that's the thing 837 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,200 complications overview complications are obstacles but 838 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,600 they also a hint and how things are done. 839 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,240 I really love this part. So it you can really kind of 840 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:04,080 guide the heist a little bit by saying oh there's like 4 841 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,920 patrolling guards or whatever. Usually that's going to be night 842 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,240 time. If there's metal detectors and 843 00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,240 bystanders, usually that's going to be daytime. 844 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,040 So you can kind of in the way that you write the brief, either 845 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,200 guide or just be aware of how you write the brief. 846 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,560 So there's consistency in the way that it's done. 847 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,040 Because the way you write your complications can really 848 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,960 determine a like the kind of like starting base for for how 849 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,400 the entire heist is going to be done really a lot of the time 850 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,920 between day and night and if you're around people or not 851 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,840 around people. So I really enjoy that part. 852 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,360 So there is a thing and right here that says however don't be 853 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,960 afraid of putting yourself in unnecessary trouble when you're 854 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,080 writing the whole preparation phase right. 855 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,520 Be realistic to a point. Get weird with it. 856 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:55,400 But it's OK to let it get close to to to be in a really tough 857 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,000 situation that you're going to have to roll yourself out of 858 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,640 later. That's that's it's fun. 859 00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,960 Don't forget it's supposed to be fun. 860 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,280 I I can kind of see the like people doing it the first time 861 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,280 and being a little bit more reserved, but as they realize 862 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,120 kind of how it goes the second or third time it's you know. 863 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:13,280 You want those sweaty moments? You want to be between a rock 864 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,280 and a hard place and be like, you know, I gotta maneuver my 865 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,680 way through, you know? Yeah. 866 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,040 Cuz what's the rest that's gonna happen is you're gonna fail A 867 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,400 roll, get a ad, dice to the stack and and you know have to 868 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,600 narrate your way out of it, which is. 869 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,280 Which is fine and fun. Yeah, the one of the last on my. 870 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,320 Table and my table. If you messed up, I actually 871 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,280 straight hit you in the face, so yeah. 872 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,680 We'll just kill you. Yeah, everyone damage that my 873 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,760 characters take in our games, that's one punch they received. 874 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:45,760 That's one real life damage. How many HP do you got IRL 875 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,200 buddy? So I do like the very last part 876 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,960 of this page says don't shy away from the outlandish, The sillier 877 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,000 the better and the most intricate, creative and complex 878 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,240 the heices are the more the the funnier it will be to play it. 879 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:02,920 So great. First of all I know we we've 880 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,000 kind of stopped talking about the graphic design on the page 881 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,960 but like the layout of of the page throughout, I love the 882 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,560 note. The brief is written on a note 883 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,920 but the next page, the primer page, it's like half black, half 884 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,240 yellow. Really, really enjoy the the 885 00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:21,200 split between the two and the again, black, yellow, red vibe 886 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,640 all the way throughout. I feel like there's this like 887 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,760 from this point on. There's still some pages that 888 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,440 are like white background, the majority of it that have text 889 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,920 over. But from this kind of point on, 890 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:38,440 it really takes us like big colors on the entire page And it 891 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,600 works really well. Yeah, but it's interesting. 892 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,320 It's like, it's not until you get into like the preparation, 893 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,040 it's like, OK, now flip, now it's like all these colors 894 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,440 everywhere in a yellow background, black background. 895 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,080 That's the I think. I think I mean I'm sure it's 896 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,600 intentional you know it is absolutely intentional does 897 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,280 great yeah. But like, having things be kind 898 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,720 of straightforward. Black or white, you know, very 899 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,480 readable, very straightforward. And then jumping into the weird 900 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,080 part of it is like, you just say it's such a like, flip into the 901 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,760 like, if I was sitting at the table doing this and I flipped 902 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,080 to this page, my heart rate would definitely go up by a 903 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,080 couple and be like, right, We're fucking doing it, Fucking doing 904 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,200 it. It feels like a natural 905 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,680 progression. Yeah, and it's so good and 906 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,680 especially and then when we get to the referee page, love love 907 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,840 that spread. So because we're, I'm not even 908 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,200 looking at this in spreads, but like in spreads a lot of this 909 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,360 makes a lot of good sense too. So the plan you come up with a 910 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,680 plan, you write it down, there's 12 scenes. 911 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,160 The main rule is that you must include all the complications. 912 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,680 So you have to actually address all the six complications. 913 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,720 And generally you try to have like one or two scenes address 914 00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:45,200 each one. And then there are they do a 915 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,080 good breakdown of like the stages of like when you should 916 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,040 be doing things and there's 123, there's four stages, there's an 917 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,400 infiltration stage which is usually scenes one and two which 918 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,760 is actually breaking in. There's a deployment stage, 919 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,440 scenes 3 through 6, where you're getting people and stuff in all 920 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,240 the right places. Infiltration that says choose 921 00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:07,320 one complication to deal with. Here a deployment says choose 922 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,360 two, Execution is scene 7 through 10. 923 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,880 You're actually executing the heist and there's two 924 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,080 complications here. And the escape is scenes 11 925 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,240 through 12 and you should choose your last complication here. 926 00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:20,480 But I do love the the instruction at the top of this. 927 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,760 It says to facilitate formulating the plan, follow 928 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,280 this structure. But this is flexible. 929 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,240 Use it only if it makes planning easier. 930 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:30,120 Discard it if it becomes a hindrance. 931 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:37,560 I love that, yeah. And then the scene's primer. 932 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,960 So these are kind of like rules for the scene. 933 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,880 So each crew member has to appear in two scenes has to 934 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,440 multiple characters can appear in the same scene. 935 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,600 While some scenes can be performed solo, each scene must 936 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,080 describe one explicit course of action or intention. 937 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,240 A single sentence is enough, clearly identifying the crew 938 00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,000 member of their actions. So every you can't just have a 939 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,760 scene where like nothing really happens. 940 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,360 Everything has to progress the story. 941 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,160 All complications, all six complications have to be dealt 942 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,120 with. You don't forget to world build 943 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,480 as much as you want. You don't need to ask the 944 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,880 referee. And this is I think this is 945 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,960 going to be the hardest part for players, especially people with 946 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:14,680 D&D brain is you don't have to ask the players, you build the 947 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,760 world. So it says specifically is don't 948 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,480 ask the referee. Is the vault directly linked to 949 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,320 the police, to the police's alarm system or how many 950 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,640 security guards are in the surveillance room you pick you 951 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:30,600 can just say oh you know what like the vault actually is 952 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,480 linked to the police's alarm system because that's fun and 953 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,000 interesting and exciting to get around. 954 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,040 So if if you were, if you're with players who are are 955 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,120 especially in the like 5 Ed and D brain of just like feed me the 956 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,600 story so I can make A roll. I think that's gonna be the 957 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,320 hardest part for people. And I think in early people of 958 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,760 refereeing needed to be like you're building the world you 959 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,920 decide, you decide, you decide, you tell me the story, you 960 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,320 decide. And I think this is a great game 961 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,160 to try to help people break out of DD brain. 962 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,840 Think OK, Cinematographically that word is used like four 963 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,280 times and it's just a big long word and I love it. 964 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,640 It's great, but it's it's, you know, it doesn't roll off the 965 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,040 tongue super great. Think, think, think like a movie 966 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,120 script. Use gear eccentrically and 967 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,440 extensively. Get crazy. 968 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,720 Use a helicopter. Crew members can appear in a 969 00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:17,240 place only if there's a logical reason for them to do so using 970 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,640 actions performed in previous scenes. 971 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,600 I was saying with like those random like pop out of furniture 972 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,520 shit and the scenes must be written down. 973 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,600 A plausible timeline with no flashbacks, no flashbacks like 974 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,080 you Andre. And the last thing is apotheosis 975 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,040 of the grand escape. That's it. 976 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,080 I like the setup scenes. That's the next part. 977 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,760 Did you are you a big fan of the setup scenes? 978 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,960 I enjoy them. I believe so. 979 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,840 Well, I can't remember. I had a thought when I was 980 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,280 reading this last night and I can't remember what it was. 981 00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:49,120 All right, well, my brain's a little. 982 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,680 Mushy right now let. Me tell you all about setup 983 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,960 scenes and see if it picks it back. 984 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,600 So this is optional, but I would definitely use it. 985 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,720 So it says basically at the show the action phase you can do like 986 00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:00,360 the pre stuff for it. So there's like tropes involving 987 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,960 setup. So specifically like practicing 988 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,920 something like the birds are beating up some guards or 989 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,440 whatever. There's reconnaissance which is 990 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,800 like actually like watching the guards movement and writing down 991 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,600 notes and stuff. It's all the stuff like you you 992 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:16,560 get the crew together and then you go out and prepare for the 993 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,640 the actual heist. These are called setup scenes, 994 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,960 so it's kind of between the preparation and not you can 995 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,200 remember. Also, I would absolutely do 996 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,240 this. Sorry, my brain is much. 997 00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:27,720 But tell me why I I was immediately thinking of of I 998 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:30,840 think it is actually Ocean's 11 when they do like the practice 999 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,880 like robbery of the safe that they build and then they play 1000 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,520 that footage for like as they're actually robbing the real safe. 1001 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:40,440 Yeah. So good. 1002 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,600 Yeah. I really like. 1003 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,640 So disguising yourself as hired staff makes sense. 1004 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,960 The not enough dough is funny where it's like you only have a 1005 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,000 budget of 200,000 but you need something that costs more so you 1006 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,160 can just do a precinct where you steal the thing that you need, 1007 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,200 which I think they do in one of the oceans movies too, where 1008 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,880 they do steal like an EMP or some shit like they do. 1009 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,080 Yeah, yeah. So it says why these scenes? 1010 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,600 It's because it's it's, it's interesting, it's fun. 1011 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,040 You can set up stuff so that it makes sense later. 1012 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,640 Like there might be times where it it would be hard to make the 1013 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,440 action go from etcetera, etcetera, etcetera throughout or 1014 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,440 you might need like a weird interesting piece of equipment. 1015 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,600 So it makes a lot more sense when you get to one of the 1016 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,920 example ones. There's a part where in the 1017 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,960 setup scene one of the guys like has an interaction with like a 1018 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,840 housekeeper or a janitor or something. 1019 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,240 And then during the heist suddenly like the janitor pops 1020 00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,320 out and it's that guy and it's like, oh, during the setup scene 1021 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,880 he put himself in that place. So that's cool. 1022 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,840 The only part about this that I think is is is interesting and I 1023 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,080 think I would be just a little fuzzy on is there's heat that 1024 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,200 you can get from setup scenes. So you can actually start the 1025 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,240 game with dice in your stack already if some of your setup 1026 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:48,600 scenes might bring heat to the crew. 1027 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,360 But I there's not a really solid explanation for when it 1028 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,400 wouldn't. When it wouldn't, it says 1029 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,640 depending how hard or realistic each setup scene is, the referee 1030 00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,720 will decide if this brings heat. The referee evaluates each scene 1031 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,360 1 by 1. The initial dye stack starts 1032 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,920 with that. There's not really an example 1033 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,640 here of that. And later like they do, they 1034 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,640 talk about some setup scenes and then say like there's three dice 1035 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,760 with it, but like not which ones did and why. 1036 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,480 So I think like super easy stuff. 1037 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,400 I don't know if it would bring a lot of heat, but maybe like 1038 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,920 stealing something beforehand, I would definitely give heat to 1039 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,040 absolutely. Yeah, yeah. 1040 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,360 I like that type of to discretion, but I think maybe 1041 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,320 some more parameters laid out would be nice. 1042 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,480 Yeah, I don't think, I don't think it's necessarily that 1043 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:32,480 hard. And you can kind of pick and 1044 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,000 choose like, I don't mind like, I think maybe even just like one 1045 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,560 specific example of like what is heat and what's not heat would 1046 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,600 be really, really nice. But but it's not, it's not by 1047 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:48,240 any means breaking whatever. So next there's an example plan. 1048 00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:50,400 And I love the fact that there's an example plan through this. 1049 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,760 Do you want to talk about the example plan? 1050 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,280 Yeah, we're robbing the fucking Louvre in Paris. 1051 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,440 We're stealing the Mona Lisa. Yes, that starts with a budget 1052 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,880 of 200,000, which I I did not deep dive the referee section 1053 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,920 nearly as hard as a ship. I believe that that's like 1054 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,080 fairly, like considerable for a budget. 1055 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,280 I think the standard, the average is 250 K so it's just a 1056 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,120 200 and 5250. It's 250, so it's a little like. 1057 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,120 I do like that this example is a continuation of the example. 1058 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,200 Like earlier, it's the Mona Lisa, yeah. 1059 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,440 It's the same one and the. Same complications and I enjoy 1060 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,760 that a lot, yeah. Yeah, so who We have a boss, a 1061 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,200 con con artist, a grease woman, a genius and a bruiser. 1062 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,680 They all have names. The best one's amazing, Jenny. 1063 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,800 Just because that's a that's a good name. 1064 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,400 Yeah. Has examples of the set up 1065 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,040 scene. Monsieur Gerarda sends a guard 1066 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,840 to the hospital and takes his job at the museum. 1067 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,680 Livingston advises a special surveillance system is of course 1068 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,400 engineered to make cameras go black by removing a small 1069 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,600 electrical circuit. Writ sets up a meeting with the 1070 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,760 museum director to sell her a new surveillance system. 1071 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,640 While there, he performs a magic trick with a cleaning staff 1072 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,000 member. Amazing. 1073 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,640 Jenny practices a with a replica of the painting. 1074 00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:20,800 Georgina pulls a few strings to secure a helicopter. 1075 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,520 That's right, because Georgina's a boss. 1076 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,080 So he's like, yeah, I got a tank. 1077 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,880 A tank's going away on the roof. Yeah, And then it goes through 1078 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,640 the job scene by scene. Then it breaks up between 1079 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,200 infiltration and deployment. The kind of like standard 1080 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,320 framework that is optional to use the. 1081 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,560 Form framework, yeah. It's a good example. 1082 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,880 It's a great. Example and I really love that 1083 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:48,440 they specifically highlight in which in the what you're 1084 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,040 supposed to do, which is like in the preparation 'cause you would 1085 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,720 write all this down and hand it to the referee. 1086 00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:56,320 They specifically say in scene 2 we're gonna address complication 1087 00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:01,560 one, in scene 11 we're gonna address complication 2. 1088 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,960 So it's not that everything has to be done in order, which is 1089 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:09,040 which is really cool. I I this is such a great, great 1090 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,440 example. And also how about the fucking 1091 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,400 graphic design on this? Like this clipboard with like 1092 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,000 the halftime? On it's actually a little 1093 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:20,000 clipboard, so the example stamp on it the example. 1094 00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:23,920 So good. The action. 1095 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:30,480 So the referee picks up the plan and runs the scenes one by one. 1096 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,800 This part should take an hour and a half, with each scene 1097 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,400 lasting no more than five to 10 minutes of play. 1098 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,520 A wobbly dice stack instills tension, and that's fair. 1099 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,760 When to roll. The referee tells you when you 1100 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,960 should make A roll. Typically this happens when your 1101 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,480 crew member does something risky, like climbing a smooth 1102 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,200 surface or fighting someone. Follow the referee's lead 1103 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,200 actions. Simple actions automatically 1104 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,360 succeed, which, thank you for writing it down. 1105 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,040 I always appreciate. It's like, yeah, simple stuff, 1106 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,640 but more complicated actions. It's a 2D6 system and it works 1107 00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:14,640 like a 2D6 system. Yeah, so 26 fail, improvise an 1108 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,360 alternative action and add dice to the stack which is on the 1109 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:22,080 next page. 7 to 9 the action's action succeeds but you must 1110 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:29,200 take a set back which is on page 28, not in line hyperlink or add 1111 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,760 dice to the stack. Your choice, except in the 1112 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,840 escape stage, when you must add dice and then 10 plus, is just a 1113 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,160 success. And then you may remove one die 1114 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,080 from the stack. Advantage and disadvantage. 1115 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,520 Crew members get advantage by calling a stunt or using 1116 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,200 appropriate gear. That's pretty much all you have 1117 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,160 as a character in this game. The referee imposes 1118 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,440 disadvantages whenever they see whatever fitting. 1119 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,520 It's just like, all the time. Yeah. 1120 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,120 Advantage. You roll 3, ignore the worst. 1121 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,520 Disadvantage, you roll 3, ignore the best. 1122 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,680 Also like that's a funny way to word it just of all of our 1123 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,240 examples of advantage and disadvantage. 1124 00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:14,800 But I'm like Oh yeah that's like you're right that is that's 1125 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,960 that's that is it's a very clean way the instead of writing in 1126 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,120 multiple senses like, yeah, it's good. 1127 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,760 That's it, yeah. I really enjoy in the core 1128 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:28,800 mechanic of the game that there is never a time where like 1129 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:33,040 there's not an option to add or take away from the stack. 1130 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,120 The stack is ever present because even on the mixed 1131 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,280 success part, you have to decide to either take a set back or 1132 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,440 just add to the dice. So there's always a choice. 1133 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,080 You're either putting a dice on, you're either tasting, taking 1134 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,240 the dice off, or having to choose which is the most likely 1135 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,880 outcome between narrating like a set back. 1136 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,120 You succeed but have a set back, and that's really important. 1137 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,840 I think a lot of people in two D6 that really get some hung up 1138 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,400 is partial success which I I'm not a fan of. 1139 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,800 It's it's mixed success parcels discuss me It's like you don't 1140 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,520 do what you wanted to do all the way which I disagree with. 1141 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,920 It's what this says is what makes sense to me. 1142 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,960 The action succeeds but there is also it's not. 1143 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,920 It's not kind of. It's yes but and I really like 1144 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,360 that they specifically put in here. 1145 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,400 They specifically say the action succeeds. 1146 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,120 But so this very specifically says like you still get to do 1147 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,280 what you do but other shit happens. 1148 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,200 And I really, I really like that. 1149 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,680 That's that's my favorite mechanic. 1150 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,880 A7 and nine you're you're you'd get to do what you want to do. 1151 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,840 You do punch that guy in the face but you know another dude 1152 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,080 comes in behind you. You know you. 1153 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,840 But you break your hand when you do it. 1154 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:48,760 Yeah, so I really there's there's the the French job they 1155 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,920 do throughout here with Jenny and Livingstead and all that 1156 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,680 stuff. A great example of play like 1157 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,000 it's it's a page and 1/2 of an example of play that you should 1158 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,600 really read. It specifically goes through the 1159 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,640 dice, why they're rolling the dice, what a set back looks 1160 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,360 like, what all of that looks like. 1161 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,920 It's an incredibly well written example of play and I love the 1162 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,440 red, yellow, white on it. Again, graphically. 1163 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,200 Layout wise fucking. Really incredibly appealing to 1164 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,720 read through. It is also a really good example 1165 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,200 and it follows a thing that we've talked about previously 1166 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,280 that I always really, really like When we read through 1167 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,800 tabletop games is when all of the examples follow the same 1168 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,280 group or same people. And you're just like, it's like 1169 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,560 this ongoing narrative inside of the game about a group that 1170 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,760 yeah, I I don't know why, but I always really love that. 1171 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,080 Yeah, it's it's so good because you you feel, I mean I feel like 1172 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,080 it creates more engagement with the game and with the fiction 1173 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,560 too, because you know when you get to the example you're going 1174 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,560 to hear more of the story. Like it pulls you in a little 1175 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,600 bit more and it's really, really fantastic and they do a great 1176 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,240 job here. They go through multiple scenes 1177 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,240 in the example scene 2, scene 4, scene 7, like multiple scenes, 1178 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,720 you get all the way through and then you get to the dice stack. 1179 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,840 So during the game, you'll be asked to form dice stacks. 1180 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,600 Each stack starts with zero and you stack as high as you can. 1181 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,000 So you get 3 stacks for the entire thing. 1182 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:07,880 Your first stack is a little tension. 1183 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,840 You add one dice each time you're supposed to add dice. 1184 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,640 So once the first stack falls and you get to your second 1185 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,640 stack, every time you have to add dice, you have to add 2 dice 1186 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,000 to the stack, right? And then the third stack. 1187 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,800 Guess what? You have to add 3 dice every 1188 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:28,160 time to the stack and the only way you win the game is if the 1189 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,480 third stack is standing or I guess fewer stacks. 1190 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,640 But odds are not in your favor for that when you get it. 1191 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,360 So it says. If the third stack does not 1192 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,520 collapse, the crew is victorious and you can enjoy their spoils 1193 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,880 on some tropical island on the other side of the world with 1194 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,040 umbrella mojitos and Cuban cigars. 1195 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,360 Such a good mechanic. Like that third stack, though, 1196 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,800 adding three dice at the time. You're like oh fuck dude, Like I 1197 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,560 I mean that you do it twice and like. 1198 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,280 Right. This is going to fall. 1199 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:05,120 Yeah, so we get to a page here. I I kind of want to throw this 1200 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,480 into spreads for a hot second. This is a great page that 1201 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:16,440 really, really. Oh no, I hate when that happens. 1202 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,000 So it's it's the spreads are off because there's no page in the 1203 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,400 beginning. You know what I love to do? 1204 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,880 A lot of times you can just insert a page in the PDF, but I 1205 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,280 didn't do that. So we're going to go back to 1206 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,440 just the single page view, so it's no players beyond this 1207 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,880 point. So for those listening spoilers 1208 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,800 beyond here, this is a referee part. 1209 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:39,360 If you, if you want to play this game, don't listen anymore but 1210 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,040 let it play anyway. So we get the we get the thing 1211 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,520 on our podcast, so great fucking spread here. 1212 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,800 It's like falling dice. There's police line, there's 1213 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,960 like a dice stack in the background. 1214 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:55,520 There's you know the popo, more dice like a a plane flying away 1215 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,880 in the background with someone hanging from the bottom like 1216 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,840 just a fucking great spread here. 1217 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,440 And it says referees only don't go past this part. 1218 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,480 So real quick run through on the referee. 1219 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,120 So refereeing the job. It talks about the brief, 1220 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,600 creating the brief. We've already talked about the 1221 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,840 the the parts of that object location budget complications. 1222 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,760 It specifically says go see Chapter 7. 1223 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,720 There's the preparation where it says it's your job to give them 1224 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,800 the brief and then to listen to what they have to say so that 1225 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,840 you can take notes on where things could go wrong. 1226 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,680 Your whole job for an hour and a half is just sit there and 1227 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,960 listen and take notes. As a referee, there's a thing at 1228 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,760 the bottom that says you will need to improvise. 1229 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,200 Make sure you are comfortable with that. 1230 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,920 If you're not a good improviser, play this game to get better at 1231 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,960 it. I'm saying don't not do it, but 1232 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,360 this is the game to to try to spread your wings. 1233 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,000 But give details about the physical space, the space the 1234 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:48,000 players are in, what they see, what they hear, what they smell, 1235 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,720 how tall the building is, Ask for rolls whenever it feels 1236 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,520 natural. Make use of setbacks and 1237 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,960 interesting complications. A lot of the times with 1238 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,760 complications they're going to come back about you later. 1239 01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:02,320 One of the examples before was someone had a mix so they forgot 1240 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,800 a screwdriver on a table in a room where they had tied up 1241 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,880 guards and then in a later seen on a the guards like use the 1242 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,120 screwdriver to escape and like come running after you. 1243 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,240 That's an example of like setting up a set back to come 1244 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,480 back to bite them later in the butt. 1245 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,560 And it specifically says wait a couple scenes and then have that 1246 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,480 come back. So the action pick up the plane 1247 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,680 to run the crew through the scenes they devised don't shy 1248 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,360 away from asking the players for help. 1249 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,240 What color is a building? What does it smell like when 1250 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,600 you're running the scenes? Interact with the players, Ask 1251 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,200 for roles. Each scene should only take 5 to 1252 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,360 10 minutes. Your job through this is to 1253 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,440 really guide them through the plan that they already had. 1254 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:46,200 I think that this is like maybe one of, if you are not the most 1255 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,920 comfortable improvising, but you want to get better. 1256 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,000 I feel like this is maybe, like, maybe one of the pinnacle games 1257 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,440 of like, practicing that because there's just such this group 1258 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,560 narrative thing going on and like, it so clearly established. 1259 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,280 Like, yeah, I just asked the player characters what they 1260 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,200 think as well, you know? Yeah, because I play. 1261 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,360 The character. And there's and there's just, 1262 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,200 it's so much less crunchy mathematically that you when 1263 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,240 you're improvising you have to worry about like, oh, setting 1264 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,400 DCS or like stuff like that. Like you can just it's purely 1265 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,600 narrative and they're rolling dice to interact with that 1266 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,000 narrative. So you don't have to worry about 1267 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,040 the weight of like stats and stuff, yeah? 1268 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,200 It's great. Another reason 2D6 is one of my 1269 01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,720 favorite with very low modifiers is because you don't have to set 1270 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,000 DCS. You don't have to set target 1271 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,920 numbers. You don't have to have that math 1272 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,680 in your brain at all. The target is always what the 1273 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,360 target is. I love games where the target is 1274 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,040 always the same and maybe you tweak it a tiny bit, but that's 1275 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:44,040 it Like D&D anyway. Sure. 1276 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,960 So running scenes, it basically, you know it, it goes through. 1277 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,320 It's a really good thing to read through, but if you've read a 1278 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,840 lot of books, a lot of it is is more reinforcement than 1279 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,400 anything. Dice stack speed is important 1280 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,640 though. This is interesting, so it says 1281 01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,160 the first stack will most likely take time to collapse. 1282 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,320 Maybe four or five or even 6 scenes. 1283 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,040 Says this is fine, don't get stressed about it. 1284 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,000 The second and third stacks will definitely collapse more 1285 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:08,560 quickly. Obviously you're adding 1286 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,280 exponential more dice, so you should probably aim at having 1287 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,880 the crew assemble the third stack in the last two or three 1288 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,880 scenes so you are kind of corralling a little bit to add 1289 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,440 the tension in some. The game starts slow and is 1290 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,400 designed to get abrupt intense at the end. 1291 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,240 If you're already in scene six or seven and the first stack did 1292 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,400 not collapse, think about asking for more rolls, because the only 1293 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,040 way to add dice to the stack is to add more rolls. 1294 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,600 So if you're if you're not really asking for a lot, pick it 1295 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,080 up. If the dice are collapsing too 1296 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,400 fast, slow it down. You know, do that kind of stuff. 1297 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,880 A section on player rolls, it really just goes through when an 1298 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,880 action succeeds. It specifically calls out, yes, 1299 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:50,320 but on 7:00 and 9:00 they do succeed on what they want to do 1300 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,000 but you get to add a complication and then the 1301 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,320 section on it failing. And then there's a whole 1302 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,720 breakdown on like how to build a good set back. 1303 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,360 Their problems that come back to haunt the players in underlined 1304 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,560 subsequent scenes. A typical set back would be 1305 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,320 player getting injured as you climb the wall your feet slipped 1306 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:09,880 but you moved on later in the heist. 1307 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,080 Remember that climb you're actually bleeding roll a 1308 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,080 disadvantage. So like if something happens, 1309 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,560 just be like, OK, that happened and then, you know, maybe throw 1310 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,840 a little something that might allude to something, let a 1311 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,960 couple of scenes pass and then and then, you know, hit him with 1312 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,640 it. There's a whole referee FAQ page 1313 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,280 here on how to dealing with setup scenes. 1314 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,800 Can you refuse the scene theater of the mind, How to use gear? 1315 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,400 What happens? Great page. 1316 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,040 Read it. It's awesome. 1317 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,680 Another cool spread here with all the eyes and like the making 1318 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:47,560 a play in thing and then to get to the escape. 1319 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,440 Love this part. There's a success or the 1320 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,000 failure. If the stack does not fall, you 1321 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,160 win. Good job, you escaped mojitos, 1322 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,320 Cuban cigars, you know, do whatever you want to do. 1323 01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,440 The failure is really interesting. 1324 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,240 I enjoy this a lot. So if this third third stack 1325 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,120 collapses, the heist is over. The game either stops right 1326 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:09,240 then, or you can use these rules, which I really enjoy. 1327 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,160 So you can narrate A chaotic escape. 1328 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,080 The crew member who made this that collapse is caught. 1329 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:15,840 That's it. Game over. 1330 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,360 You done, Joe? Like you are going to jail, but 1331 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,280 all other players have exactly 1 minute to write down on a piece 1332 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,080 of paper what their crew member will do. 1333 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,240 But whatever they do, it must involve at least one other crew 1334 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,240 member, and players cannot talk to each other during this phase. 1335 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,160 Love that. So when the time is up, players 1336 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,560 reveal their writings. They now have exactly 3 minutes 1337 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,520 to work out a logical story based on what they've written. 1338 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,760 Select one player to be the spokesperson. 1339 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,240 When the time is up, the the spokesperson explains the escape 1340 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,760 to the referee who compares it to the notes. 1341 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,760 If the referee finds inconsistencies, they may send 1342 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,840 crew members to jail. If the escape the notes are 1343 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,760 consistent, all crew members escape and they're free to play 1344 01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,720 the next time. I love the idea that like, yeah, 1345 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,160 four people sitting around and if this person says they do this 1346 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:08,280 and this person says they do that, like they they're caught. 1347 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,680 Because there's no way that they could tie that in the story. 1348 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,680 But if somehow player one and player three say they meet up 1349 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,640 with each other without ever talking to each other and like 1350 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,279 escape through the window, then it's just like, that's great. 1351 01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,200 You didn't have to talk about it, but somehow you knew and 1352 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,880 then it's just gone. I love the idea that like, if it 1353 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,120 makes sense, sure. And if not, like you're fucked. 1354 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,880 You just get this little chaotic 4 minutes at the end to maybe, 1355 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,800 maybe do it, maybe don't. And I love that. 1356 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,680 Creative writing project guys. How the fuck am I getting out of 1357 01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:36,600 here? What makes sense? 1358 01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:38,880 There's a whole chapter here on creating briefs. 1359 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,479 It really, it really breaks down the object, the place, the 1360 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,359 budget. Right here it says the default 1361 01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:47,960 budgets are on 250. Ki love this, this this kind of 1362 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,240 swami looking guy. I think that's, I don't know if 1363 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,560 that's the correct way to say that, but he's got the, the, 1364 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:58,240 the, the the, you know to search the Internet for brochures for 1365 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:01,640 real life places and print them out, give them to the players 1366 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,279 with the briefs so they can pinpoint scenes. 1367 01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:06,200 I love the idea of handing them a literal folder that actually 1368 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,720 has like brochures from the Louvre tucked into it and like 1369 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,000 but like photographs. So you could actually print on 1370 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,399 like print paper like as if you had really like scouted it out a 1371 01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:17,439 little bit and and had it in there like clipped. 1372 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,080 You know, people always like flip up one page or whatever and 1373 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,600 so. Really, if I sat down and play 1374 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,880 like a highest game and they were like did a real world 1375 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,040 location and they like, here's they brought pamphlets and then 1376 01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,600 like some photos, I'd be like, this is them. 1377 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,920 I love shit like that, you know? Pretty my fucking jeans. 1378 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,319 Like, it's like you give me a real dossier that looks like a 1379 01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:39,160 really stealing from the Louvre. That's that's amazing. 1380 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,319 So yeah, there's a whole page here in possible complications. 1381 01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:45,040 I love all of the graphics for these. 1382 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,800 They're. The graphics are really of 1383 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,840 really fantastic. And then it follows along with 1384 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:55,640 the black, red and yellow motif and it's just so like the heat 1385 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,160 sensor one. That's what I was going to say, 1386 01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:02,280 the same color motif. It's so good that I love the dog 1387 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,600 one too, like just a slight angle with a red ear in the 1388 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:05,840 back. It's small but like it's it's 1389 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,720 great but like. I gotta say, dogs or tigers. 1390 01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,440 Yeah, I I would. I I wish that they would give 1391 01:10:12,440 --> 01:10:15,800 these out as as little tokens or whatever 'cause I would 1392 01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,240 literally just be like I slide those off or like put those onto 1393 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:19,800 a sheet. These. 1394 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,240 I would rip these right off the fucking PDF and use these just 1395 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,200 as as. I wish they'd do patches. 1396 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:28,720 I wish more non mothership games did patches, you know? 1397 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,240 Dude, even just stickers. So you could literally just have 1398 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,560 like a sheet where you put these down as stickers would be 1399 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,680 fucking amazing. Like a Boy Scout badges or 1400 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,760 whatever. Oh yeah, dude, if you got this 1401 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:43,600 as like, I I defeated the reinforced doors and you got 1402 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,040 like a sticker or a patch or a badge or something like that for 1403 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,040 doing that, that'd be so dope. I mean, I don't know if it's 1404 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,240 thematic, but like, that's it. Anyway, so there's now there's a 1405 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,720 bunch of example briefs and my goodness, the layout on these as 1406 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:58,120 if they're like movie posters but with the brief attached to 1407 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,280 them. Some of the best shit Like 1408 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,800 period in fucking not only like. Movie posters, but like, really 1409 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,320 good ones. So good, there's the low hanging 1410 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,000 proof. I love it says directed by the 1411 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,000 referee. And there's even like the PG13 1412 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,480 here it says copyright 2023 Fake Films LLC. 1413 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,160 Like, it's great, so eat. So there's the low hanging 1414 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:23,280 fruits, There's the fish and golden chips where you're 1415 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,840 stealing from like the the the Royal family and you get the 1416 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,240 horns. I really love that one. 1417 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:35,880 Again, a lot of like halftone collage, like poster art in this 1418 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:45,120 marble like flesh get back to Alcatraz and and there's a 1419 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,560 compatibility section. It just talks about like being 1420 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,520 able to use this as like a mini game within another campaign. 1421 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,400 Like if you're and you get and being able to use it for. 1422 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,040 Like if you want to do this in a dungeon just switch it up like 1423 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,080 and just instead of having a budget just have to be the gear 1424 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,000 that you actually have. But this would be so great. 1425 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,120 I love the idea of games that use mini games to do something 1426 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,760 different. Like if you want to do a heist 1427 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,800 in 5 E just play 5 or play a different game but like play 5 E 1428 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,320 and when you want to do a heist just stick the job in or another 1429 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,840 heist game and then go back to the regular thing, you know? 1430 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:21,200 That's how I feel about the oh God, what's the What's is it 1431 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:25,040 clean spirits? Yes, as like as like. 1432 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,880 I'm like, that is the most, it's the most perfect game to slide 1433 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,680 into another game that you're already doing, yeah, but yeah. 1434 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,680 Making a series of mini games. This is the exact same thing, 1435 01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,280 though. It's like you could easily slide 1436 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,640 this into another game that you're doing and like run a 1437 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,160 heist with good heist rules. Yeah, it's so good. 1438 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:45,280 And then at the back there's there's sheets, there's plan 1439 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:50,760 sheets, there is your character sheets, there's the you can 1440 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:56,160 print the the, you know the the crew sheets, all that stuff. 1441 01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:00,120 And then much like a lot of my games on nervous stuff, it's CC. 1442 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,360 It's Creative Commons 4 point O international license, share, 1443 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:04,880 copy, redistribute. All of it. 1444 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,040 Just give attribution to games. Omnivorous. 1445 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,720 I also love this when the book tells you the book was designed 1446 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:18,040 with the open Sands 9/11 and the guy soaks 2732 specimens. 1447 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,480 Like it gives you like the typefaces and and stuff like 1448 01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:22,760 that. I love that, especially like 1449 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,120 when we're doing promo, I like to like try to use a lot of the 1450 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,680 that. Kind of thing. 1451 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,640 I was like, I know you love that shake because you're making all 1452 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,080 more promo. It's hard to make it match if 1453 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,200 you don't know what they're using. 1454 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,840 Dude, a lot of times I'll literally just straight up like 1455 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,720 there's there's websites like I'll just, I'll just copy copy 1456 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,200 paste a piece of font and then just go to website that's like a 1457 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,160 typeset Finder and throw it in and be like oh it's you know, 1458 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:45,800 fucking Garamond or some shit, you know. 1459 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,200 And then there's the back cover, which is also fantastic. 1460 01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,200 I love the people falling down off of the dice stack. 1461 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,920 It's really great. And and that's the end of the 1462 01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,160 book. You're after the good stuff, 1463 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,000 Jim's diamonds, gold bullion, etcetera. 1464 01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:01,320 The job is a tabletop game where you can win, lose, you prepare, 1465 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,080 and you, you commit a heist. That's it. 1466 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,840 Fucking I. Love the ramping up, like die 1467 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,840 Stack by the way. Like, I know we're right there. 1468 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,640 And now I'm just like, I'm thinking like, oh God, like it's 1469 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,200 like kind of tense and it just progressively just be way more 1470 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,560 tense. And then you knock over the 1471 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,240 first one, you're like, oh fuck, it's like when I add 2 every 1472 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,040 time you're like, oh God. Really good, really good. 1473 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:28,640 All right. So first scores of the year 1474 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,800 clearly I mean it's a book, it's a hardcover book. 1475 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,520 I don't care that it's 48 pages. This is one of those things 1476 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,840 that's like Zine book that we talked about a lot of times like 1477 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:41,160 a Zine can be up to like 70 ish pages and still be stapled 1478 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,440 together. And if it's stapled together 1479 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,320 realistically I guess we're we're we're reviewing it is is 1480 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,360 that's the thing if I have a semi game Zine we're doing a 1481 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:50,760 book review. Yeah. 1482 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,200 If it's 70 pages, I think it's it's we're across into book 1483 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,360 territory. This is like a very lean book, 1484 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,520 but like this still is in book territory. 1485 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,600 Yeah. Well and again it's the fact 1486 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,920 that it's it also is physically a book as well like it kind of 1487 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,880 it kind of forces itself into that category. 1488 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:14,600 So the the 30 to 70 range is going to be a very, that's gonna 1489 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,680 be where we're having to have discussion. 1490 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:18,880 The thing is, like, what do the creators call it? 1491 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,880 Do they call it a scene? You know, like. 1492 01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:23,040 Well, it says the Games Omniverse book. 1493 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,560 Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying. 1494 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,760 It's like if the creators call it a book, then that also is 1495 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,320 probably gonna. And also if if we do talk to a 1496 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,000 creator beforehand that we're going to review their game, like 1497 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,720 we'll ask like we've asked creators before. 1498 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,000 We're like, this could be a scene, it could well, we could 1499 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,600 do a full book review. What do you want? 1500 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,720 And they almost always say, I give me the full fucking Monty, 1501 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:46,560 you know. And so we do, we give it to 1502 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,200 them. So especially if you listen to 1503 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,920 our year end review for 2023 and if you didn't go check it out, 1504 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,640 it's really good. We've been told, I also think 1505 01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,680 that yeah, we did a good job, apparently better than last 1506 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,480 year, someone said. And we really appreciate the the 1507 01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:06,000 kind words about that. So we have 5 metrics for books, 1508 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,800 10 points each. Five is bang average, nothing 1509 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,800 good or nothing bad. Max score of 50, highest we've 1510 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,280 ever given us like a 44. We do art layout, which is just 1511 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,320 the like layout, as in like how it looks, not necessarily how it 1512 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,200 works. Quality, quantity. 1513 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,880 All this stuff for art usability is the layout. 1514 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,120 How it works, Is it readable? Is it hyperlink? 1515 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,000 Does it bookmark? Do the maps work? 1516 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,200 Do the character sheets work? All that kind of stuff. 1517 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,600 Rule set? Do we like the rule set? 1518 01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,520 Is it good if it's adapted? Is it adapted? 1519 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:40,520 Well, Originality, it could be setting, could be rules, could 1520 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:42,000 be anything. It's just whatever level of 1521 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,000 originality the game might have and value is the bang for your 1522 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,240 buck. Not only the the book itself, 1523 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,600 but does it come with character sheets, third party licenses, 1524 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,680 extra content, online generators, all that shit, So 1525 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,680 art and layout. My goodness, we're starting the 1526 01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:01,200 year real strong on this. And this is a strong first art 1527 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,200 and layout. It's so good. 1528 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,480 It's so good. And you know what's interesting 1529 01:17:05,480 --> 01:17:07,720 is if you compare this to something like Hell Knight, for 1530 01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,560 example. Absolutely fucking love the art 1531 01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,720 and layout that it's insane, it's fantastic. 1532 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:20,480 But this is readable, you know. It is readable, that is, which 1533 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,120 drops the usability a little bit handmade, you know so. 1534 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:29,560 Oh, it it it it it's lack of readability was was counteracted 1535 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,600 by how fucking awesome it was and the fact that you got a 1536 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,600 readable PDF later. But the fact that this one is 1537 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,800 artistically fantastic and readable is great. 1538 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,000 I mean, gun tio fucking my God dude. 1539 01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,200 This book is absolutely stunning. 1540 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,720 I mean, what are you thinking? I mean, there's art in it. 1541 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:55,880 It's poster style collage. This is if you're gonna do 1542 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,800 public domain art, this is how to fucking do it. 1543 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,040 You put it into a complete style of your own. 1544 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,680 It's so just. I think the layout's pretty 1545 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:10,400 fantastic. I it's mostly like 2 column ish. 1546 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,240 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, kind of. 1547 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,600 Yes, kind. Of, you know, yeah. 1548 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:20,800 I think the like boxes on all the pages work really well. 1549 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,760 They fit in really well. They don't feel like they're 1550 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,080 standing out. Your eyes are drawn to where 1551 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:29,560 they're supposed to go. I mean, this is like a a really 1552 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:33,680 very strong eight for me. I could, I could, I could be 1553 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,840 convinced to go potentially higher. 1554 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:40,400 Yeah, I mean I for me, this this, this scratched the 9 box 1555 01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,760 for me. I mean, I think, I I think I'm 1556 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:46,840 good with a nine on this one. So yeah, I that's that's where I 1557 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,560 was at. Because realistically when you 1558 01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:52,280 think of like artistically the art all the way through, 1559 01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:54,000 amazing. I love the layout, I love the 1560 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,000 spreads, I love what they did with the halftone. 1561 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,480 I think the consistency of the style all the way through where 1562 01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:01,320 every single page is just reinforcing the vibe over and 1563 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,320 over and over again. Not just in the art, but also in 1564 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,720 like the layout of the page as far as like the color of the 1565 01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:11,040 page, the icons used on the page, the split sometimes where 1566 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,000 like half the page is red, half the page is white, half the page 1567 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,160 is yellow, half the page is black. 1568 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:18,120 I think it's it not only is the art great, but the way the 1569 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,560 layout is done like you said. One of the things that I think 1570 01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,920 really elevates it from an 8 to an iron for me is the switch in 1571 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,400 kind of motifs in the different kind of fit, like phases at the 1572 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,960 book. Almost the basics are pretty a 1573 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,360 little bit more reserved. The preparation phase bumps it 1574 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,240 up and then you get to the referee section where so much of 1575 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,120 it is like black. It has kind of a different vibe. 1576 01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,240 I think that the attention to detail on that really elevates 1577 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,400 that to me. So for me, I think that I think 1578 01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,560 this is a pretty solid 9, if you're cool with that. 1579 01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,160 I'm super cool with that. Totally. 1580 01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:57,800 Yeah, right, Usability. It's a book. 1581 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,320 It's super usable. The pages are thin. 1582 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,440 It's split in a way unlike a lot of books we've read where like, 1583 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:08,560 all of the shit you need for the players is in one section. 1584 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,800 All the shit you need for the referee is in a different 1585 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,200 section. You don't have to parse. 1586 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,120 I know, it's only like it's less than 50 pages. 1587 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:15,760 You don't, but you don't have to parse it. 1588 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,960 And realistically you could print like 2-3 pages out of 1589 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:26,480 this, including a crew sheet. And have everything you need as 1590 01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:28,200 a player to run the entire game. Period. 1591 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:29,840 You don't really need anything outside of that. 1592 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,040 Even just a plain sheet gives you enough. 1593 01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:34,360 Yeah, and you can get the sheet and you can print everything 1594 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:35,080 out. And that's really cool. 1595 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:39,320 It gives you these tools to use. Yeah, I think it's pretty cool. 1596 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,360 I mean, it it has bookmarks. It doesn't have hyperlinks. 1597 01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:48,640 I don't think it has a physical silk book ribbon, right? 1598 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:50,480 No, but it's. I mean, it's only 48. 1599 01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:51,960 I know, so I know this right? This is a little bit. 1600 01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,640 Listen, this is the things we talk about when it comes to 1601 01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,200 usability. Yeah, no, I agree with you. 1602 01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,560 I agree with you. I do think. 1603 01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,440 I mean, even the printing of this is really beautiful. 1604 01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:02,320 It doesn't have a silk ribbon. But you can see like the there's 1605 01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:06,120 like a like this the like a little bit of like ribboning, 1606 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,200 threading on the inside. It's not just like, you know, 1607 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:09,640 held together by glue on the sheets. 1608 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,560 It's such a well, like it's a good print. 1609 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,560 This ain't this ain't POD is what I'm saying. 1610 01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,960 You know what I mean. I do think when we look at 1611 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,120 usability though, we're hyperlink people. 1612 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,720 We got to put out that hyperlink merch. 1613 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:28,120 The lack of hyperlinks in this, I don't think it's as egregious 1614 01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,800 because of the size of the PDF. If you're 30 pages or less, it 1615 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,080 doesn't bother me at all really. If it's not hyperlink, it's such 1616 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:39,000 a short document but I and it is bookmarked but I I I do think 1617 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,480 the step up in PDFs to actually hyperlinking and there are a lot 1618 01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:44,720 of references to other pages I think would be nice to be able. 1619 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,560 To click the page like, yeah, you're right, the hyperlink 1620 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,320 maybe doesn't bother me, but like the fact that there are 1621 01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,240 page references that are hyperlink to my bro, that's that 1622 01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:58,320 is kind of. Yeah, I don't remember if a lot 1623 01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,200 of a lot of the other games I remember stuff has hyperlink 1624 01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,200 PDFs or not, I don't remember. Either. 1625 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,800 I mean, I'm pretty sure there's no positive mouse runner is like 1626 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,200 online tools for this either. Not that I don't know. 1627 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,680 There's a need for it. There's no What would you do? 1628 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:12,880 Like randomly generated character? 1629 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:14,600 They're all there. You don't do anything to do 1630 01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,120 characterization. Either, you know. 1631 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:22,120 Yeah, I mean, I I guess, but I think that's So what do. 1632 01:22:22,440 --> 01:22:25,560 You think of reusability, I mean. 1633 01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,760 I think it's. I think it's about average. 1634 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,120 I mean it's I I wish it had hyperlinks, but it does have 1635 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:36,400 like I said, it does have bookmarks. 1636 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,160 I think that the the book is laid out in a way that makes a 1637 01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:43,320 ton of sense. So that that clearly adds to 1638 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:44,200 usability. That's why. 1639 01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,280 That's one of the reasons that we broke usability away from 1640 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,640 layout and move layout to a completely visual thing is 1641 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,000 because there are so many books where we're like, the layout 1642 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,840 looks great, but like I have to flip to 10 different sections 1643 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,480 just to understand the rules of the fucking game. 1644 01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,200 So I think the content is laid out incredibly well. 1645 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,360 Everything you need is highlighted in the ways that you 1646 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,400 need it. There's. 1647 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,440 When I finished reading this book, I had no question on how 1648 01:23:08,440 --> 01:23:12,600 it worked, and I think that the layout and the way it was 1649 01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,440 designed as far as the usability really fed into that. 1650 01:23:16,440 --> 01:23:23,320 So I don't know. I'm probably like a yeah, 7:00, 1651 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:24,680 I was gonna say seven. Yeah. 1652 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,440 And you held up fingers that also said seven. 1653 01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:31,200 So I completely agree with you on that. 1654 01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,400 So seven for usability. I mean hyperlinks would have 1655 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,160 bumped into an 8. I think that again like the the 1656 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,480 way the content is laid out this in in such a short book is 1657 01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:41,720 important and it's great. Not rule set. 1658 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,240 Yeah. Great great rule set. 1659 01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:51,000 Very very simple 2D62-D62-D. Next week's success. 1660 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:52,640 I don't know if you know this about me. 1661 01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,240 I don't know if you know this about me. 1662 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,200 I kind of like 2 to 6 make success and I love that they 1663 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,400 reinforce over and over again, yes, but I love that they 1664 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,200 reinforce over and over again. Push the narrative. 1665 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,880 I think it's fantastic. Again, I don't want to play a 1666 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,800 heist game at all, but I would play the shit out of this. 1667 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,040 I can't think of something that I would change about this. 1668 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:19,160 The only thing that, if I had to be nitpicky as fuck, would be a 1669 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:23,120 slight bit like one more line about what about the optional 1670 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,120 heat? There's only the only thing 1671 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:30,520 where I'm like, I would just pick, but if there was a maybe a 1672 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,000 little bit more explanation of which one was he and which one 1673 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,360 wasn't, it's the only thing. But I mean, other than that, 1674 01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:36,400 fuck. Like, what are you thinking? 1675 01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:38,800 I mean. I think if you know I love a 1676 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:40,800 minimalist game, this has no SAT. 1677 01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,200 There's no HP. You know, you roll, and if you 1678 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,840 fail, you add to the stack. And then if you fail, you have 1679 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:47,600 to like, OK, So what are you going to do instead? 1680 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,120 Narratively. And I'm like, that's pretty 1681 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,320 good. That's pretty cool. 1682 01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,520 That's the thing about this is it's like in in the, in the in 1683 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,320 the context of genre discussion and you know, etcetera, 1684 01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,680 etcetera. This is a story game hard like 1685 01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:03,120 this to me plays way more like Fiasco than it does like D&D, 1686 01:25:03,480 --> 01:25:06,080 you know? So, like, it makes sense. 1687 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,960 There's no stats, there's no HP, there's none of that bullshit. 1688 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,200 It's all narrative and it's all designed to be improv and 1689 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,720 narrative. So you know, it's not relating 1690 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,000 it to D&D as much as like I said, relating it to Fiasco. 1691 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,120 So, like, yeah, I So what do you think? 1692 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:20,240 No. What do you think? 1693 01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:21,360 Give me a number. You feel? 1694 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:22,680 Yeah, you're you're feeling passionate. 1695 01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:26,840 I want to hear A10. No, I'm kidding. 1696 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,320 No. For what it is and what it does, 1697 01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,360 I it's the best heist game I've ever read. 1698 01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,960 So for that, that's important. You know what I mean? 1699 01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,440 And then this, you know, there's some subjective aspects of this 1700 01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:43,520 where I'm like, yeah, but I love combat games, but like I would 1701 01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,680 play the shit out of this. I'm I'm between an 8:00 and 9:00 1702 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,120 on this pretty easily. What are your thoughts? 1703 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:52,640 I'm let's go with an 8. OK, yeah, I I don't know. 1704 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,240 There's nothing you could really change about it. 1705 01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:57,880 I don't know either, but I'm feeling that's where I'm that's 1706 01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,240 where my gut's telling me so. Yeah, like I said, I was between 1707 01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:05,520 an 8 and a nine on this. And yeah, I mean, we've only 1708 01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,640 ever given 110, so nine is the highest you can go and eight I 1709 01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,960 think I that's probably just our subjectivity on like style and 1710 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:14,360 whatnot. But yeah, absolutely, this is. 1711 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,080 This could easily be a nine on a different day where we're not as 1712 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:18,680 tired. Originality. 1713 01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:23,800 I mean, fuck, what do you, what do you, what do you do? 1714 01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,000 I mean, let's talk about art wise, layout and everything like 1715 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,120 that. Originality the the 70s like. 1716 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,800 Heist thing. Insane. 1717 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,080 Insane. The style of game two like this 1718 01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:38,160 is straight up narrative heist game in exactly the way that we 1719 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,560 both actually like heists. Like, name me another game that 1720 01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,720 does this and I guarantee if someone says heist, a lot of 1721 01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:46,680 people are gonna say Blades in the dark, Blades in the dark, 1722 01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,520 Ain't this Blaze and dark again. I don't think that rule system 1723 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,160 is designed to do what it wants to do. 1724 01:26:51,480 --> 01:26:54,960 And this does rule system. Every aspect of it feeds back 1725 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:58,000 into itself constantly. What are your thoughts on 1726 01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:07,230 originality? I mean, yeah, it's a really 1727 01:27:07,230 --> 01:27:09,430 great heist game. It's not the only heist game, it 1728 01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:12,870 is a very specific style of heist game, although I would 1729 01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:14,870 also say it's pretty open to interpretation as well. 1730 01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:18,510 But it really is this like call back to these classic heist 1731 01:27:18,510 --> 01:27:22,800 movies in a way that other heist games aren't really, they're 1732 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,560 they they just do it differently. 1733 01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,760 So I think this kind of stands on its own as its own thing. 1734 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,560 Although one thing I haven't read Honey Heist. 1735 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,080 So could be the same game for all I know. 1736 01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,800 I love a game that I can play Frank Ocean, and you know, 1737 01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:44,880 that's all I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, me, A towel. 1738 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:50,640 I'm Dirty Dancing. Yeah, that's I'd like. 1739 01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,880 I'm going to be imagining Frank Ocean leading a heist gang. 1740 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,680 Yeah, yeah, poorly at Long Island over. 1741 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,480 Yeah, Earl Sweatshirt. I think it's like a like, you 1742 01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:06,160 know, I think, I think it's like an 8 again for me, for 1743 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,120 originality. OK, so here's the thing. 1744 01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,640 Either rule set or originality, one of these is a nine pick one. 1745 01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,080 No, you pick one. I I I'm good with either of 1746 01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:18,640 those. So all right. 1747 01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:23,120 I got I got mush brain today. My brain's my brain's extra. 1748 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,560 Extra soft today and extra. We're going, we're going. 9 on 1749 01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:28,720 rule set Because honestly, here's the thing, with rule set, 1750 01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,640 I can't think of anything else that I want to do. 1751 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,080 I think for what this does, it's perfect. 1752 01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,480 Like I I. Wouldn't add anything to it, so. 1753 01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:37,840 No, and I wouldn't take anything away. 1754 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,440 There's not a single thing I would take away originality. 1755 01:28:40,440 --> 01:28:44,320 I think this is a solid eight. Other heist games exist but not 1756 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,960 in in the style of this. There I there's another there's 1757 01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,920 not a game out there that can make that lets me play. 1758 01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,520 You know Ocean's 11. And again we grew up in the age 1759 01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,720 of fucking heist movies and of of remakes of of heist movies 1760 01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:03,480 and they're great Value wise. I don't much like most of games. 1761 01:29:03,480 --> 01:29:04,800 I'm never it's just not expensive. 1762 01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,400 You're not happen to be looking it up, are you? 1763 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,600 Really? Not expensive, I. 1764 01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:10,920 Mean I bought 2 and didn't really think about. 1765 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:18,720 It, it's €25, that's what, 27? $27.00 and it's a thin. 1766 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,080 It's a thin book. It's only 50, but it's a. 1767 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,160 Gorgeous book. It's very, very pretty. 1768 01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,120 It's a nice a look on the shelf. It's nice to give you. 1769 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:33,920 I mean, listen, I've seen people putting 50 page zines for $35 1770 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:38,040 and wanting you to pay $15 for the PDF as well, $25 for the PDF 1771 01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:39,760 and the Zine of the quality of games. 1772 01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,360 I'm never yeah, value wise, this is fantastic. 1773 01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,640 You can print all the crew sheets, you can print everything 1774 01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,160 that you want. It's CCBY. 1775 01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:47,880 All you have to do is attribute, attribute. 1776 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:53,320 I think as far as like not having a need for really 1777 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,120 anything beyond that, the value on this is is pretty fucking 1778 01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:57,160 good. You know what I mean? 1779 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:06,760 What are your thoughts? I think it's good. 1780 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:08,720 I think it's a good price for what you're getting, you know? 1781 01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,520 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 1782 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,960 Where where are you at? I don't know. 1783 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,400 I I don't know. You know, I think it's a good 1784 01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,320 price you'll get. There's not really anything else 1785 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,040 online for it, which I don't necessarily think it may be a 1786 01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:25,760 detriment for this game. I don't. 1787 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:28,600 Think I'm saying there's nothing else you would want or need. 1788 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:32,120 Yeah, yeah, so have you. Like they give you like 6 brief 1789 01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,360 examples in the book. It's very true. 1790 01:30:34,440 --> 01:30:37,320 I mean, I think another again, it's a strong eight, you know. 1791 01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,520 Yeah, I think it's a strong, I think it's a strong eight. 1792 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,400 I mean, just 'cause it doesn't need more, doesn't mean that, 1793 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,840 like games that like have more don't deserve higher. 1794 01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,520 But I think that's an easy, that's an easy eight for me. 1795 01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:53,360 So realistically, I mean if this was hyperlinked, the lowest 1796 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:59,000 score on it would be and eight. This is immediately like in the 1797 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,960 running for for top game of the year at the end of the year and 1798 01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,440 I think it absolutely fucking deserves it. 1799 01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:11,240 I I think for what this game is, this to me is reminiscent of 1800 01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,200 what we thought about 9 lives to to Valhalla in a way that like 1801 01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:20,120 it's perfect for what it is. I very much agree. 1802 01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,200 I was actually thinking that a little bit ago. 1803 01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,520 I'm like, it's very much the same kind of minimalist way. 1804 01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,960 It's just really good at doing a thing, you know? 1805 01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:32,120 Yeah and if you're if you're if you do that thing well then then 1806 01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,440 you're killing it. So that's a 41 on the first 1807 01:31:34,440 --> 01:31:36,840 review of the year from games Omniverse product. 1808 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,920 Andre Navola fantastic game. I would love to play. 1809 01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:42,400 I would love to play this. I really hope we can get this 1810 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:47,680 stream again starting strong. I imagine unless some fucking 1811 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,240 bangers come out, this is going to be in a top five. 1812 01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:51,880 Multiple ones at the end of the year. 1813 01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:54,400 My gosh, will this be in the art and layout One at the end of the 1814 01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,640 year at least. Great game, Love it. 1815 01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,640 Have no idea what's coming up next on the docket. 1816 01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,440 Our January is jam fucking packed and February with Zemo 1817 01:32:03,440 --> 01:32:07,000 and everything is going to be just a stack, so expect to shill 1818 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:11,120 out episodes I think we have. Maybe I was going to take. 1819 01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,320 All of February off and you can just handle Zemo on your own, so 1820 01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,640 there you go. I I generally think we have 10 1821 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,040 to 12 episodes planned just for January so far and that's not 1822 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,880 even touching on Zemo even though some of those are prepped 1823 01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,400 for Zemo that are coming out like the last week or two. 1824 01:32:25,440 --> 01:32:27,360 So expect a lot of weekly scroll. 1825 01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,080 Again, thank you everyone so much for the end of last year. 1826 01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:32,560 We really want to start this year strong and hit hard. 1827 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,200 We are going to do. We said we're going to do less 1828 01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:36,480 interviews and we have like 10 planned. 1829 01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:41,440 But after Zemo and even through Zemo, what we would love to do 1830 01:32:41,440 --> 01:32:44,200 is consistently get back to doing more games. 1831 01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,080 We had fewer games than we kind of wanted to last year and a lot 1832 01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:48,760 more interviews. We, we. 1833 01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,360 Regardless of what we do, I would like to make sure we get 1834 01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:55,320 at least three, if not all four every month so we can end the 1835 01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,960 year on like 50-50 fucking games, you know? 1836 01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:01,240 And I'll be down for that. I it's funny because we've been 1837 01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:02,880 doing some interviews and I've been like, yeah, I want to do 1838 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:04,560 less interviews. And then we did, you know, the 1839 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,360 games on the nervous interview. I'm like, damn, that was really 1840 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:07,120 good. We should do some more. 1841 01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,240 Yeah, I really think we're just gonna be a little bit more picky 1842 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,400 about it. And I do think that we should do 1843 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,600 a little bit, lend a little bit more stuff to our monthly 1844 01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,840 crowdfunding thing where we can talk about people's projects, 1845 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,240 where we might love them and their projects. 1846 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:26,240 But as far as our schedule and our time, I do wanna be a little 1847 01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,480 bit more. I want to take care of me in 1848 01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:30,840 2024, you know what I mean? So like, I'm not going to 1849 01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:34,040 sacrifice sleep as much when we can address projects otherwise. 1850 01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:36,440 So I mean but if you're if you're fucking Andre Naval, 1851 01:33:36,440 --> 01:33:37,840 we're going to talk to you. You know what I mean? 1852 01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:40,240 Like, you know there's some people you just can't say no to. 1853 01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,040 But again, thank you everyone for all the support from last 1854 01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:44,280 year. Thank you for your support 1855 01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,280 continuing forward into 2024. This was a banger first episode. 1856 01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:52,200 Expect more very soon. You're all amazing. 1857 01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:54,760 That's it. Love you too, buddy.