1 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,120 Hello and welcome to the Weekly Scroll podcast. 2 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,240 My Name Is Ryan. And I'm Hunter. 3 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:25,160 And I'm Kirby. Oh, I'm Jared. 4 00:00:28,690 --> 00:00:32,009 I think I woke up the late. I woke up the latest of 5 00:00:32,049 --> 00:00:33,730 everybody else from the power nap. 6 00:00:34,810 --> 00:00:37,090 That was perfect. So that was amazing. 7 00:00:37,090 --> 00:00:39,690 Could have been better. This is, as I said, that we can 8 00:00:39,690 --> 00:00:44,410 throw podcast and today we have the return of Jarrett Crater, 9 00:00:44,410 --> 00:00:48,410 better known as Dirt, from Space Penguin Inc, which recently 10 00:00:48,410 --> 00:00:50,650 launched. And that's just kind of what 11 00:00:50,650 --> 00:00:52,650 we're talking about. But not only that, I do also 12 00:00:52,650 --> 00:00:56,410 think that this is the first time that the now named 3 13 00:00:56,410 --> 00:00:59,810 cohosts of the weekly scroll podcast are actually on the same 14 00:00:59,810 --> 00:01:02,170 episode. So you get all of our wonderful 15 00:01:02,170 --> 00:01:05,290 faces. Plus, you know Jarrett Crater, 16 00:01:05,290 --> 00:01:07,370 you can't really ask for a better guest than that. 17 00:01:07,370 --> 00:01:10,210 So this is this is special for you guys out there. 18 00:01:12,020 --> 00:01:15,100 Got a got a little got meat meat castle in the chat. 19 00:01:21,300 --> 00:01:15,980 There we go. So I wanted to show off some 20 00:01:15,980 --> 00:01:18,380 stickers I got from a recent thing from him. 21 00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:22,980 So hey. Love meat? 22 00:01:24,340 --> 00:01:26,020 Who doesn't? Who doesn't? 23 00:01:26,020 --> 00:01:28,260 I mean, I'm vegan, but you know, meat's great. 24 00:01:28,940 --> 00:01:34,020 Anyway, Jared Space Penguin Inc launched about two weeks ago. 25 00:01:34,460 --> 00:01:36,580 How did that go? How are things? 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:42,360 It was interesting the other day, my partner Debbie said. 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,680 I thought that after the the launch that your anxiety level 28 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:54,160 would go down and I was like anyone who knows me knows that 29 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,120 that was not the case. But yeah, no thanks to everyone 30 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,840 watching and ever watching in the future and in the past in an 31 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,640 alternate timelines and time zones and stuff. 32 00:02:05,290 --> 00:02:09,090 For hanging out and making us feel welcome as, you know, 33 00:02:09,090 --> 00:02:12,650 publishers, retailers, wholesalers, whatnot on the 34 00:02:12,650 --> 00:02:15,010 scene, things have been going good. 35 00:02:15,010 --> 00:02:21,050 We had gangbusters first week, it was really great and then 36 00:02:21,050 --> 00:02:24,050 things dropped off and it was first weekend and then 37 00:02:24,050 --> 00:02:27,250 everything dropped off Monday, Tuesday, because it's Monday, 38 00:02:27,250 --> 00:02:29,930 Tuesday. And my, my. 39 00:02:30,050 --> 00:02:31,890 And the orders kind of, like, stopped. 40 00:02:31,890 --> 00:02:34,810 And I was just like, oh, then they picked back up. 41 00:02:34,850 --> 00:02:37,650 So I'm learning. I'm learning marketing curves, 42 00:02:37,690 --> 00:02:40,610 which I worked in restaurants for 30 years. 43 00:02:40,610 --> 00:02:44,570 So I know marketing curves that my brain just is now catching up 44 00:02:44,570 --> 00:02:48,690 to. Oh, it applies to this other 45 00:02:48,690 --> 00:02:51,730 line of business. I was, you know, messaging with 46 00:02:51,730 --> 00:02:55,130 Kirby last night. And, you know, I told them I was 47 00:02:55,130 --> 00:02:57,810 like, Oh yeah, July and August are always the worst. 48 00:02:58,170 --> 00:03:00,770 And they're always just the worst for every because 49 00:03:00,770 --> 00:03:03,930 everyone's on vacation, everyone's traveling, at least 50 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:08,090 in our particular time zone, and schools are out and stuff like 51 00:03:08,090 --> 00:03:12,010 that. People's attention has wandered, 52 00:03:12,130 --> 00:03:16,130 you know, So things have leveled out. 53 00:03:16,290 --> 00:03:19,490 They're a bit slower. We've been doing a bunch of 54 00:03:19,770 --> 00:03:24,570 wholesale orders and getting stuff into some other shops. 55 00:03:25,140 --> 00:03:31,140 And working up a bunch of meet and greets, stuff like that. 56 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:36,500 Well, E meet and greets with brick and mortar stores. 57 00:03:36,780 --> 00:03:40,580 We got a big big, big, big big list of like it's like 50 plus 58 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:44,620 between the folks on the Space Penguin work server and a bunch 59 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:47,060 of people on plus one server added stuff. 60 00:03:48,010 --> 00:03:50,730 Everyone's just putting their friendly local game store and if 61 00:03:50,730 --> 00:03:53,490 they have the contact person who takes care of buying and you 62 00:03:53,490 --> 00:03:57,250 know some sort of contact information and then you know 63 00:03:57,250 --> 00:04:00,930 it's, it's available. If you jump on over on Plus 1EXP 64 00:04:00,930 --> 00:04:05,770 server or if you just message me and you're like, I have books 65 00:04:05,770 --> 00:04:09,010 that I'd like to sell. Can I see the big list of, you 66 00:04:09,010 --> 00:04:11,530 know, friendly game stores will be like, yeah, absolutely. 67 00:04:11,890 --> 00:04:15,530 You know, all we ask is that when you contact folks, you just 68 00:04:15,530 --> 00:04:19,440 say, you know, just be polite. And are like, hey, I have this, 69 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,400 would you be interested in carrying just all about sharing 70 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,800 information to get more stuff in brick and mortar stores and then 71 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,120 kind of going and then kind of going from there. 72 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,080 So I'm rambling. Tell me to shut up. 73 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,680 No, this is a you episode, buddy. 74 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,200 Ramble on, You know exactly. This is all about Jared Critter 75 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,440 and Space Penguin Inc. I know last time you hear you 76 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,660 talked about some of the adventures were coming out and 77 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:48,540 of course I bought them within, I think, I don't know, 10 78 00:04:48,540 --> 00:04:51,100 minutes of the store opening. So I actually have all of the 79 00:04:51,100 --> 00:04:54,460 adventures here and they are wonderful. 80 00:04:54,460 --> 00:04:57,900 I'm very excited, especially I got two. 81 00:04:57,940 --> 00:05:00,140 Well, I have three of these because you did happen to send 82 00:05:00,140 --> 00:05:01,580 me a special one, which is fantastic. 83 00:05:01,900 --> 00:05:06,580 But I'm, you know, I'm not, I've never been the father of cats 84 00:05:06,580 --> 00:05:08,700 like some people. But the little the little Kitty 85 00:05:08,700 --> 00:05:10,980 cat logo here on the side of the books? 86 00:05:10,980 --> 00:05:14,490 That's adorable. Yeah, Christian Christian 87 00:05:14,490 --> 00:05:19,410 Kessler, who wrote and created Longshot City, which actually 88 00:05:19,410 --> 00:05:22,570 just wrapped its crowdfunding last weekend. 89 00:05:22,610 --> 00:05:27,370 It's a Troika superheroes or this past weekend made the 90 00:05:27,370 --> 00:05:32,740 little spine logo and yeah. Loving it. 91 00:05:33,260 --> 00:05:34,220 Loving it. Loving it. 92 00:05:34,460 --> 00:05:38,900 And I saw you had a drift there. I just, I can't say enough good 93 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:41,260 things about the graphic designer. 94 00:05:41,260 --> 00:05:44,580 I'm not a fan of the writer. Kind of a douche night long. 95 00:05:44,580 --> 00:05:50,580 It kind of sucks. Kerby's one of my favorite 96 00:05:50,580 --> 00:05:53,580 people in the world. We talk literally multiple times 97 00:05:53,580 --> 00:05:56,780 a day, every day. That's just because I constantly 98 00:05:56,780 --> 00:06:00,340 send you message. Hey, I message you too, but 99 00:06:00,340 --> 00:06:04,900 yeah, no adrift is. It's been it's been and 100 00:06:04,900 --> 00:06:07,540 obviously you don't buy the ship stuff it it moves it's in the 101 00:06:07,540 --> 00:06:10,700 zeitgeist them adrift in distress signals have been 102 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:15,260 trucking right along cord is taking a little bit longer to 103 00:06:15,260 --> 00:06:19,260 catch on and beyond the silver screen is a is a reissue so 104 00:06:19,260 --> 00:06:25,260 again that's we're good to go there but yeah I know I'm I'm 105 00:06:25,260 --> 00:06:29,540 excited for aren't you turning in the first draft of the. 106 00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:34,710 Second volume in a sector series. 107 00:06:34,990 --> 00:06:38,190 I think my deadline that I gave myself was like tomorrow, so I 108 00:06:38,230 --> 00:06:39,550 should probably get working on that. 109 00:06:40,470 --> 00:06:44,070 You know what would be great for getting Mother Shift stuff? 110 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:48,710 Pushing is for Mother Shift to deliver on the project, which 111 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:51,310 I'm very excited to actually get one time so. 112 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:53,630 Someday. Actually big. 113 00:06:53,630 --> 00:06:56,230 I can, I can neatly say big news on that. 114 00:06:57,350 --> 00:07:04,320 All of that stuff is has now. Past yours truly editing desk, I 115 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,080 am the editorinchief over there on the mothership line. 116 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,160 I don't know if you knew that. You knew that? 117 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,800 I don't think I did know that. Did you know that? 118 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,320 You didn't. You didn't. 119 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,440 I was just waiting for Ryan to have a moment of realization. 120 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,960 Because. Oh yeah, yeah. 121 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,320 No, that's fine. So long and your fucking book. 122 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,400 And it's just terrible. I met. 123 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,000 I met Sean McCoy at Jincon. What did it been? 124 00:07:27,610 --> 00:07:35,090 2017, Yeah. 2017 because he's good buds with Don Stroud and 125 00:07:35,090 --> 00:07:39,330 Don was part of the DCC community from you know all the 126 00:07:39,330 --> 00:07:43,690 way back and I used to guests on Drinks been Run Don and Adam's 127 00:07:44,610 --> 00:07:49,250 the RPG, the RPG Talk Show Podcast, Don's I can't do a good 128 00:07:49,250 --> 00:07:52,530 Don Stroud but Don's voice is it was amazing. 129 00:07:53,250 --> 00:07:56,690 And yeah, I I had the Pocket mod. 130 00:07:57,130 --> 00:08:01,130 Of mothership in my back pocket and we were at Lock Miller's 131 00:08:02,130 --> 00:08:06,530 Ian, which is like our hideout Place bar where we go and eat 132 00:08:06,530 --> 00:08:12,770 and chill off site at Gencon. And Don's like, I have somebody 133 00:08:12,770 --> 00:08:15,130 I want you to meet. And I was like and he was like, 134 00:08:15,130 --> 00:08:16,810 oh, Sean McCoy. And I was like, oh, you're that 135 00:08:16,810 --> 00:08:18,650 Sean McCoy. And I pulled out the pocket mod 136 00:08:18,650 --> 00:08:21,810 like a nerd. And because, I mean, I've been 137 00:08:21,810 --> 00:08:25,250 running just off the pocket mod from the blog probably for like 138 00:08:25,250 --> 00:08:27,250 3 months. I think it had been, He posted 139 00:08:27,250 --> 00:08:31,290 it out there and I was like, like, I did like I do with most 140 00:08:31,290 --> 00:08:35,250 people whose work I like. I'm just like, if you make a 141 00:08:35,250 --> 00:08:36,970 larger version of this, I want to edit it. 142 00:08:36,970 --> 00:08:39,289 And then like about a month later. 143 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,440 He messages me this is still a G+ era and he was like, does 144 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,120 that offer slope? And I was like, yeah. 145 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:53,480 And so I bashed out edits on the first version of the Player 146 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,640 Survival Guide. And then in tandem with Don and 147 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:03,120 Fiona and Sean writing and working out Dead Planet, I also 148 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,680 edited that in about 6 weeks. And then flash forward a year 149 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:08,840 and we won some innies and stuff with it. 150 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,390 And then? Flash forward several years, but 151 00:09:11,910 --> 00:09:16,710 yeah, I will just say this, another bug hunt, which is the 152 00:09:16,710 --> 00:09:22,390 module that goes with that is so good in that we've achieved the 153 00:09:22,390 --> 00:09:26,350 exact modularity that we wanted. So each section is like usable 154 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:31,230 on its own, but also usable as a whole. 155 00:09:31,550 --> 00:09:35,470 I'm going to be interested to see if people like do a memento 156 00:09:35,470 --> 00:09:37,270 and mix and match them and go backwards. 157 00:09:37,730 --> 00:09:40,210 With them. So yeah. 158 00:09:40,210 --> 00:09:45,330 But all of that stuff is literally about 24 and 48 hours 159 00:09:45,650 --> 00:09:50,770 away from leaving my desk. Proofreading team is turning 160 00:09:50,770 --> 00:09:52,530 over the rest of the ship Breakers. 161 00:09:52,530 --> 00:09:57,530 Kit Warden's operation manuals in PSG's in the reworks of the 162 00:09:57,530 --> 00:10:01,930 three modules are all in. It's getting getting really, 163 00:10:01,930 --> 00:10:05,730 really, really close. So, and everyone can thank Luke 164 00:10:05,770 --> 00:10:11,650 Gearing for that because I am actually going overseas to 165 00:10:11,650 --> 00:10:14,490 Luke's wedding in a week and a half. 166 00:10:14,930 --> 00:10:19,370 And the deadline for all this getting through my desk and off 167 00:10:19,370 --> 00:10:23,450 my desk was my departure day. So that was good. 168 00:10:23,780 --> 00:10:27,500 So we are we are really close. And now Ryan doesn't feel bad at 169 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:28,220 all. Let's see. 170 00:10:28,540 --> 00:10:29,980 No, I wasn't gonna feel bad anyway. 171 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:31,500 I don't have a filter, so it doesn't matter. 172 00:10:31,780 --> 00:10:33,740 I wasn't sure I was gonna ask tonight. 173 00:10:33,740 --> 00:10:35,660 One of the things I was gonna ask though, realistically 174 00:10:35,660 --> 00:10:38,820 because I didn't know that at all, was like half the stuff you 175 00:10:38,820 --> 00:10:41,260 guys are putting on his mothership, like is there like A 176 00:10:41,740 --> 00:10:44,220 and now it all makes sense because you're you're, you're 177 00:10:44,220 --> 00:10:45,380 the guy, you're one of the guys. So. 178 00:10:45,580 --> 00:10:48,500 Funny, it's Ryan, usually on this show you know way more than 179 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:52,020 me, but actually last week my table built characters in 180 00:10:52,020 --> 00:10:53,540 Mothership 1E because I have the. 181 00:10:54,340 --> 00:10:57,060 I'm a backer obviously. So I have it and it says edited 182 00:10:57,060 --> 00:11:01,780 bye. See, I I have avoided. 183 00:11:01,780 --> 00:11:04,900 I have downloaded the as it's dripped out the bits and pieces 184 00:11:04,900 --> 00:11:07,700 but it has been tucked away until it's all out so I can like 185 00:11:07,860 --> 00:11:11,660 consume it all at one time. So I have completely missed that 186 00:11:11,660 --> 00:11:13,980 but well then yeah, you actually knew more than that. 187 00:11:13,980 --> 00:11:16,420 But again I mean I can't wait for it to come out. 188 00:11:16,420 --> 00:11:20,550 I'm really excited and I know there's a new adventure You guys 189 00:11:20,550 --> 00:11:24,830 just dropped as well on the SPI store beyond the initial 190 00:11:24,830 --> 00:11:25,830 releases. That's awesome. 191 00:11:25,830 --> 00:11:27,510 Mothership adventure. Did you want to talk about that? 192 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:31,310 Yeah, I don't have a coffee handy. 193 00:11:31,310 --> 00:11:32,990 I put, I put everything back on the shelf up. 194 00:11:33,510 --> 00:11:38,750 But we picked. So my friend Jake Miller is part 195 00:11:38,750 --> 00:11:42,470 of Slime of Many Hats with his creative partner Ben Jones. 196 00:11:43,270 --> 00:11:46,870 They are UK based. They ran a Kickstarter for a 197 00:11:46,990 --> 00:11:50,570 Mortuary. Best book, Third party. 198 00:11:50,570 --> 00:11:54,010 Bestiere called Bestiere a couple years back. 199 00:11:54,170 --> 00:11:57,010 And I really, really, really, really, really liked that book a 200 00:11:57,010 --> 00:11:59,610 lot. And when I was at Exalted 201 00:11:59,610 --> 00:12:04,970 Funeral, part of my, you know, well, my job was working up 202 00:12:05,010 --> 00:12:07,850 print runs and stuff like that was really cool. 203 00:12:07,850 --> 00:12:10,560 Neat. Stuff, you know, first party, 204 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:13,800 third party for whatever. And I looked out and got to work 205 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,520 with them to do a partnership there for Besty area. 206 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:24,960 And then when they came to do the Vulture on Kickstarter, I 207 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,840 got talking to Jake and I was just like my my, my weird like. 208 00:12:30,310 --> 00:12:33,790 Jared wants to learn how to do something slash bravado and the 209 00:12:33,790 --> 00:12:36,950 inability just to talk and just be like, oh, I can do this and 210 00:12:36,950 --> 00:12:40,110 then figure out, you know, fuck it, we'll do it in the mix that 211 00:12:40,110 --> 00:12:46,150 you know, or fuck it, we'll do it live, whatever that kind of 212 00:12:46,150 --> 00:12:48,270 is. I kind of do that with with some 213 00:12:48,270 --> 00:12:49,750 stuff. Like I take a thing on as a 214 00:12:49,750 --> 00:12:52,110 challenge because I like to learn how to do, to do new 215 00:12:52,110 --> 00:12:55,210 stuff. I have done many zines and 216 00:12:55,210 --> 00:12:57,250 shine, been making zines since I was a kid. 217 00:12:57,250 --> 00:12:59,890 Like in fifth grade was the first time we made the Cantwell 218 00:12:59,890 --> 00:13:01,610 newsroom of my elementary school. 219 00:13:02,730 --> 00:13:05,730 So I've always like, made stuff and distributed it in some way, 220 00:13:05,730 --> 00:13:09,490 shape or form. And in the RPG sphere, I've done 221 00:13:10,330 --> 00:13:13,810 House of Dogs, Dissident Whispers, Posteres from Cable, 222 00:13:13,810 --> 00:13:17,970 St., The Violence Jam, Fakwar Book the. 223 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:25,120 The breadbox gave full of spider stuff with David and Caitlin. 224 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,200 I'll just always put out weird scenes and little stuff like 225 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,280 that. You know, hand make them, give 226 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,680 them out at shows, doesn't matter. 227 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:38,000 But I had never really done a full on fulfillment job and I 228 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,480 knew that The slime of many hats, you know they're they're 229 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,080 UK based and I know one of the biggest things that we run into. 230 00:13:45,980 --> 00:13:51,140 With different fan bases is folks hate to pay out the ass 231 00:13:51,140 --> 00:13:53,260 for shipping. And I mean I I do too. 232 00:13:53,460 --> 00:13:59,500 I there's the there's a really great parody magazine called 233 00:13:59,740 --> 00:14:04,740 Wookierotica and it's like mint. It's like Star Wars but it's in 234 00:14:04,740 --> 00:14:09,500 the vein of like you know like a 70s sleaze magazine and it's and 235 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:12,180 it's created and printed in Australia. 236 00:14:12,740 --> 00:14:20,940 I paid. 18 US for the magazine I paid 60US for shipping from Oz 237 00:14:21,260 --> 00:14:24,300 for that and I I it is what it is. 238 00:14:24,340 --> 00:14:26,660 I I got it. But one of the things like you 239 00:14:26,660 --> 00:14:30,100 know when when we were building out Space Penguin we were 240 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:34,700 partnered with iglootry in the UK and I print and ship stuff 241 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:39,580 directly to there and they sell it to their store that way. 242 00:14:39,780 --> 00:14:41,220 Space Penguin stuff is available there. 243 00:14:41,220 --> 00:14:44,400 Same thing is. We, we work with all the 244 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,600 problems in this world in Berlin to handle the EU and kind of the 245 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,280 rest of the world and we're working on a situation for 246 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:57,000 Australia right now like hopefully probably mid next year 247 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,200 we'll be able to push that out too and possibly somewhere in 248 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,600 Canada and maybe eventually somewhere in Brazil. 249 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,720 So we're trying to do that. You know, little partnerships 250 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,920 like we make a little bit of less money on it, but that's not 251 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,200 the point of the point is making the books available out there. 252 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,840 And in return a thing that we're trying to do or that we're doing 253 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:20,880 is making folks in other countries who are who need US 254 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,600 fulfillment to make it a little bit less expensive on their 255 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,560 backers. Handling that here and we're 256 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,880 handling just a couple of things just in the eye miniatures. 257 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,400 The Vulture fulfillment, it's because it's it's fun for me to 258 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,440 to research packaging and materials and stuff and shipping 259 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,950 and learn how to do all that. And then actually do that. 260 00:15:41,950 --> 00:15:46,790 So anyway, Vulture fulfillment, they shipped us a bunch of them. 261 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:52,430 We sent those all out and Josh Wilkins, if you're watching Josh 262 00:15:52,430 --> 00:15:56,230 Wilkins reply so we can get your package reshipped to you. 263 00:15:56,430 --> 00:15:59,270 I got it returned the other day. I don't know who Josh Wilkins 264 00:15:59,270 --> 00:16:01,990 is, but if they're in case Josh, if you're listening, right? 265 00:16:03,630 --> 00:16:05,590 Yeah, there's. I just really wanted to get it 266 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:07,470 to gone before we depart for our. 267 00:16:08,290 --> 00:16:10,530 Our travels, So it's fine. We'll figure it out. 268 00:16:12,410 --> 00:16:16,130 So they so when they were printing them, I was like, yes, 269 00:16:16,130 --> 00:16:20,130 you want to print this many for your fulfillment and then you 270 00:16:20,130 --> 00:16:23,370 know, a good 10 to 15% overrun just in case. 271 00:16:23,570 --> 00:16:26,410 They also sent some copies to Tuesday Night Games. 272 00:16:27,180 --> 00:16:31,740 For the Mothership web store. And we ended up after the 273 00:16:31,740 --> 00:16:35,700 fulfillment and all that stuff with like 70 copies I think. 274 00:16:36,060 --> 00:16:40,500 And I was like, hey, what would you be okay with doing, you 275 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:43,860 know, a 5050 split on sales here, you know, straight up 276 00:16:43,860 --> 00:16:47,660 wholesale order, it's they're already here and they were like, 277 00:16:47,660 --> 00:16:50,180 yeah, that'd be great. And so put it up in the store, 278 00:16:50,860 --> 00:16:52,860 put it up on a Saturday to see how it goes. 279 00:16:52,860 --> 00:16:55,220 We got a few orders right away. We'll do a little bit more of a 280 00:16:55,220 --> 00:17:00,710 push this week. And then we got Red Solstice 281 00:17:00,710 --> 00:17:04,630 coming next week, which I do edit as well and still is a good 282 00:17:04,630 --> 00:17:06,910 friend of mine and Kirby as well. 283 00:17:08,310 --> 00:17:10,829 So yeah, just a little bit of stuff here. 284 00:17:11,030 --> 00:17:15,349 I talked to my good friend Jared Spearwich and Garred's advice 285 00:17:15,349 --> 00:17:18,069 was don't go more than like 3 weeks without. 286 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,640 Having something up, you know something new up for sale in the 287 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,880 newsletter, which I was used to. Always there being a lot of 288 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,240 stuff really quickly as all the funeral because. 289 00:17:30,350 --> 00:17:34,510 We were established longer and you know there was not only was 290 00:17:34,510 --> 00:17:37,470 I pushing out new releases through the printing partnership 291 00:17:37,470 --> 00:17:41,590 program, but people have been you know for a year plus before 292 00:17:41,590 --> 00:17:46,510 I came on had been regularly you know selling stuff to Matt like 293 00:17:46,510 --> 00:17:48,950 that's how Matt started building the company from the get go. 294 00:17:49,390 --> 00:17:53,510 So I was kind of used to that and. 295 00:17:54,100 --> 00:17:57,620 Seeing the logistics side of like, Oh yeah, no, it really 296 00:17:57,620 --> 00:17:59,620 does. It really tells right away. 297 00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:02,980 Like, you know, we put up a new Mothership Zine in there and 298 00:18:02,980 --> 00:18:04,620 then shipping it on the Mothership server. 299 00:18:04,620 --> 00:18:07,380 I mentioned a couple places we put up Discord server and 300 00:18:07,380 --> 00:18:11,660 suddenly we're getting repeat orders because someone is buying 301 00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:16,580 the new Zine, but then also buying another copy of a direct 302 00:18:16,580 --> 00:18:18,460 and another copy of distress signals. 303 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,600 I reached out to that person. I was like, was that a mistake? 304 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,520 They're like, no, no, no. I like those models. 305 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,440 I'm going to give those extra copies to my friend. 306 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:31,240 I was like, oh, OK, even better. So, yeah, so yeah. 307 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,140 They like to drift, really. Yeah, No. 308 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:37,460 No, he misspoke. He meant just distress, like. 309 00:18:40,020 --> 00:18:42,260 So yeah, like he said, it's it's an uphill battle. 310 00:18:42,340 --> 00:18:45,580 It's a learning curve. But I'm really super thankful to 311 00:18:45,580 --> 00:18:50,020 Jake and Ben for letting us, you know, take the chance of putting 312 00:18:50,020 --> 00:18:54,460 those copies in the store and then dye Sugars, who is handling 313 00:18:54,460 --> 00:18:58,460 all the marketing for space Penguin did a great job fixing 314 00:18:58,460 --> 00:19:01,300 my crappy photos. I have a light box and I take 315 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:03,060 photos of all of the products and then I. 316 00:19:03,180 --> 00:19:06,100 Send them to die and then Die does wizardry with them because 317 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:13,340 die is a packing wizard and then wrote up a great blurb and just 318 00:19:13,340 --> 00:19:17,740 in general made things make sense as he usually does. 319 00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:25,420 So yeah, so yay for vulture. And then, like I said, next week 320 00:19:25,420 --> 00:19:30,420 will be Red Solstice. And then as we will be visiting 321 00:19:30,420 --> 00:19:37,940 our UK&EU partners in a couple of weeks as part of our business 322 00:19:37,940 --> 00:19:42,020 trip it's kind of nice we get to go to the the we get to go to a 323 00:19:42,140 --> 00:19:45,260 friend's wedding and then then do business business business. 324 00:19:45,260 --> 00:19:47,500 And I I don't. I don't know if Debbie's 325 00:19:47,500 --> 00:19:50,940 watching right now. But thank you dear, for letting 326 00:19:51,140 --> 00:19:54,130 for. Let it Yeah, we're gonna, we're 327 00:19:54,210 --> 00:19:56,330 gonna get to meet a bunch of people that I've been working 328 00:19:56,330 --> 00:19:59,810 with for a long time and that we as company are going to continue 329 00:19:59,810 --> 00:20:02,570 to work with going forward. And it's super exciting. 330 00:20:03,250 --> 00:20:07,770 So very cool. Yeah, very excited and excited 331 00:20:07,770 --> 00:20:11,570 from our red soul says too. I mean, I do have #2 in my hands 332 00:20:11,570 --> 00:20:13,410 here. I have #1 in the back there. 333 00:20:13,610 --> 00:20:15,250 There's something in here. What is? 334 00:20:15,250 --> 00:20:17,530 What is this one here? It's the Drake Brood of 335 00:20:18,010 --> 00:20:24,750 Telemex's lair. Yeah, so yeah, by some some 336 00:20:24,750 --> 00:20:27,070 person. So is. 337 00:20:27,070 --> 00:20:30,150 So the Vulture came out, great looking adventure, just even 338 00:20:30,150 --> 00:20:32,910 from the couple of pages and spreads that are on the website. 339 00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:36,630 I really love the the stalker page, the second one that's on 340 00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:39,390 there because I just noticed even after looking at it like 10 341 00:20:39,390 --> 00:20:43,590 times the image of like the ship in the bottom actually lighting 342 00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:47,310 up the the, the, I don't know, larger ship. 343 00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:49,730 It's just really neat. It's a great looking module. 344 00:20:49,730 --> 00:20:51,490 Excited to get that in hand. I think I got the e-mail this 345 00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:53,050 morning that I did ship, so thank you. 346 00:20:55,370 --> 00:20:57,810 But you said Red Solstice, you're going to try to drop 347 00:20:57,810 --> 00:20:59,770 something every three weeks. Is that the plan, Like three to 348 00:20:59,770 --> 00:21:00,450 four weeks? Yeah. 349 00:21:01,050 --> 00:21:05,300 Like that's that's. That's pretty much what we want 350 00:21:05,300 --> 00:21:07,900 to do. So yeah, next week will be red 351 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:11,220 Soul Sis and then while we're gone we're not going to put 352 00:21:11,260 --> 00:21:15,780 anything at new with our good friend Lucia is going to come 353 00:21:15,780 --> 00:21:19,300 over and handle all the packaging and shipping of the 354 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:22,460 orders while we're gone. So there's no beats missing that 355 00:21:22,460 --> 00:21:24,970 was. It was part of the shift from 356 00:21:24,970 --> 00:21:29,890 when we talked last time I I changed fulfillment plans and 357 00:21:29,890 --> 00:21:32,170 we're actually handling all our order fulfillment here. 358 00:21:32,170 --> 00:21:35,370 I also learned a lot with that. It's great, but that's pretty 359 00:21:35,370 --> 00:21:37,850 fun. But we didn't want to like open 360 00:21:37,850 --> 00:21:40,730 the store for like a month and then have to shut it down and 361 00:21:40,730 --> 00:21:42,490 not ship anything while we were gone. 362 00:21:42,810 --> 00:21:47,250 So but she works with Debbie in their in their the two of them's 363 00:21:47,250 --> 00:21:52,850 day job and she came over earlier today and we kind of was 364 00:21:52,850 --> 00:21:54,000 like. Here's all this. 365 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,120 And she was like, this is so easy and I'm like, I know it's 366 00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:59,840 great, isn't it? You can come over and you can go 367 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,640 to the Debbie side and play with the cats and then you can come 368 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,120 over here and package few orders every couple of days. 369 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:08,440 It's great. So we won't miss a beat there, 370 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,840 but we're not going to put out any new releases while we're 371 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,840 gone. We have a couple of small things 372 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,870 that are going to be arriving. While we're away, there will be 373 00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:26,430 right when we get back. We are getting our very large 374 00:22:26,430 --> 00:22:30,710 order of Dreadnites regular cover. 375 00:22:30,710 --> 00:22:34,550 The hard cover is actually the red cover that we blasted for a 376 00:22:34,550 --> 00:22:40,310 very, very long time and we're we're going to do some 377 00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:45,390 aggressive packaging with that because we found a great deal on 378 00:22:45,390 --> 00:22:49,880 the printing. And that one has moved along 379 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:57,240 quite well, but I can definitely say that, fingers crossed, right 380 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,640 at the end of August, Mark Ball will be coming out too. 381 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,480 So which is the forbidden zone? I don't know if it. 382 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,280 We had a lot of folks that knew about it, but we didn't do a 383 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,040 print run, so it's Blood Bowl Sevens. 384 00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:20,590 But in Forbidden Psalm, so more balls, so wild and wacky like 385 00:23:20,590 --> 00:23:23,950 the you can have like decapitated heads as the balls 386 00:23:23,950 --> 00:23:27,670 and stuff like that. So definitely Kickstarter. 387 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:29,430 I'm back to Kickstarter for that. 388 00:23:29,430 --> 00:23:31,230 I'm really excited that it's going to print. 389 00:23:31,230 --> 00:23:33,470 That's such a fun little, such a fun little game. 390 00:23:33,470 --> 00:23:39,260 Like anything, anything from Will is is going to be fantastic 391 00:23:39,260 --> 00:23:42,940 and obviously I've rearranged in this entire section here from 392 00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:46,140 here all the way to here is just all forbidden. 393 00:23:46,140 --> 00:23:49,060 So I'm really excited to actually see that in print. 394 00:23:49,060 --> 00:23:51,500 That's neat little as a neat little subway. 395 00:23:51,700 --> 00:23:55,460 We're we're looking to expand that section of your of your 396 00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:59,380 shelf in the next year. There's I talked talked with 397 00:23:59,420 --> 00:24:02,460 Will the other day. I'm not shooting you and I say 398 00:24:02,460 --> 00:24:06,020 we have the next 3 1/2, maybe four years of stuff. 399 00:24:06,540 --> 00:24:11,700 Loosely planned out. There's the that that guy will 400 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:16,140 get an idea in his head and then it it'll just go like he's 401 00:24:16,140 --> 00:24:22,060 currently working on. It's essentially you make an 402 00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:26,620 elder God and that's what your crew, your war band, they are 403 00:24:26,620 --> 00:24:29,540 the cultists of that God. And then? 404 00:24:30,790 --> 00:24:33,670 A fight against the other person's cult. 405 00:24:33,670 --> 00:24:38,790 So we wanted to take all of the Lovecraft out of Cosmic Core and 406 00:24:38,790 --> 00:24:42,150 still keep the cosmic core. And it's one of those things 407 00:24:42,150 --> 00:24:45,110 like when when Will gets an idea, he just chomps on that 408 00:24:45,190 --> 00:24:47,990 fucking thing. I got a dog just tears at it So 409 00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:50,630 that one it it'll be early early next year. 410 00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:57,910 But forbidden some We I I hate to E We're calling it the End 411 00:24:57,910 --> 00:25:01,340 Times Edition. It's essentially they're going 412 00:25:01,340 --> 00:25:04,980 to be for Benzom and in the footsteps of the mad wizard 413 00:25:05,180 --> 00:25:09,500 combined into one book. It's being he's he's almost done 414 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:13,420 with the layout that one will be on the editing desk when that 415 00:25:13,420 --> 00:25:19,060 when I get back so that there's that more ball will be I'll be 416 00:25:19,060 --> 00:25:22,740 sending more ball to print while we are gone. 417 00:25:25,380 --> 00:25:28,100 I think I should have done a proof already. 418 00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:29,660 Fine. I'm not worried about it. 419 00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:34,460 I actually heard it did So that would that would will be going 420 00:25:34,460 --> 00:25:37,940 to print while while we're gone so that it hopefully arrives 421 00:25:38,780 --> 00:25:41,420 right right when we get back so we can do the big push on that. 422 00:25:41,420 --> 00:25:45,540 And yeah, that we did the the Kickstarter digitally with that 423 00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:50,420 because we wasn't quite sure what we wanted to do with that. 424 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:52,700 But print, hold it for later and what not. 425 00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:57,280 And I'm just like, let's do it. What else There's like three or 426 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,840 four other things if you hang out on the for Benzon Discord 427 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,520 server like he'll he'll just every every month he'll just pop 428 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,760 up a new channel and that's like the the go to. 429 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Also, somebody over there mentioned shirts the other day 430 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:16,120 and for the past week we've been doing a bunch of research on. 431 00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:19,070 Print on demand. Stuff like that. 432 00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:24,870 So the goal is to, before I depart for my travels, to have 433 00:26:25,470 --> 00:26:28,550 the ability to order print on demand shirts from the place 434 00:26:28,550 --> 00:26:32,150 that ships out of the UK as well as a place that ships out of the 435 00:26:32,150 --> 00:26:36,390 US. And is that real quick? 436 00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:39,030 Because I mean we're getting some some space Penguin shirts 437 00:26:39,030 --> 00:26:43,950 too, because I I already have like 8 shelves of black shirts 438 00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:46,870 and like two of them are just like tabletop role-playing game 439 00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:48,270 shirts and I would like them more. 440 00:26:48,270 --> 00:26:51,910 So SPI shirts are coming. Yep, Yep, we're going to do 441 00:26:51,910 --> 00:26:56,830 that. So our friend Andrew over at 442 00:26:56,830 --> 00:26:59,470 Fallen Arrows, he's actually part of epic levels. 443 00:26:59,470 --> 00:27:02,670 He's Tiger Wizard. He was. 444 00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:06,190 He's the the the gang that did that shirt that you're wearing 445 00:27:06,470 --> 00:27:11,310 right now for, yeah, all of the shirts for Exalt, the funeral 446 00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:15,830 for the past. Several years fallen arrows is 447 00:27:15,870 --> 00:27:22,190 no mas, but I have discovered some other places that do that 448 00:27:22,830 --> 00:27:24,910 that the exact sort of situation. 449 00:27:25,230 --> 00:27:28,270 So yes, we're going to have a couple of options. 450 00:27:28,270 --> 00:27:31,310 We're going to have of course the basic black with the pink. 451 00:27:31,630 --> 00:27:34,790 I do have one that he did for me that's got itty bitty like in 452 00:27:34,790 --> 00:27:37,470 the pink that's behind you Hunter. 453 00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:40,270 We'll have that one and then we're and we're going to go with 454 00:27:40,270 --> 00:27:41,990 a lighter. Colored one. 455 00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:44,710 I'm trying to figure out exactly which one will be the best for 456 00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:48,750 that will work, will worked up. What'd you say? 457 00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:51,390 Mango colored. Mango all, I think. 458 00:27:52,150 --> 00:27:54,150 Ryan would love that so. Right, orange. 459 00:27:54,510 --> 00:27:57,150 Listen, I'm obviously getting the black and pink one. 460 00:27:57,430 --> 00:28:00,150 Anyone that actually has seen the vods of our show knows that. 461 00:28:00,230 --> 00:28:03,190 I don't know, we're a bit of a fan of of black and pink here on 462 00:28:03,190 --> 00:28:07,150 the show, but I got to say, I love the teal logo that you guys 463 00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:08,430 also have. I think. 464 00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:13,230 I think it's your Twitter profile picture there. 465 00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:16,270 That's a great looking shirt too, so I don't know. 466 00:28:16,270 --> 00:28:18,630 Mango's nice, but I would rock a teal one for sure. 467 00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:24,670 Yeah, that's that actually is the blue-green color that Doug 468 00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:28,670 actually drew that in his. In his notebook. 469 00:28:28,670 --> 00:28:32,390 So I don't know if y'all follow Doug Kovacs daily. 470 00:28:32,390 --> 00:28:35,110 I think it's Doug Kovacs Daily Cats on Instagram. 471 00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:40,070 I don't follow that one. Doug Doug posts up a new picture 472 00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:44,590 of a cat every single day. A new painting, drawing, 473 00:28:44,670 --> 00:28:48,390 watercolor, acrylic. You know, whatever it is. 474 00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:52,900 And yeah, that drawing of Itty Bitty actually came through. 475 00:28:53,260 --> 00:28:57,020 But when he came and stayed at our house a few years back with 476 00:28:57,180 --> 00:29:01,500 Pre COVID, he was on a cross country road trip and he was 477 00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:04,500 visiting all of us. Instead of all of us going and 478 00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:06,860 meeting him at conventions and shows and stuff like that, he 479 00:29:06,860 --> 00:29:10,340 took a you know, massive literally like 3 1/2 months road 480 00:29:10,340 --> 00:29:13,980 trip and when he stayed the house he drew itty Bitty and 481 00:29:13,980 --> 00:29:16,040 that. Picture just kind of stayed 482 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,760 around and all of the notebooks are just and I think it ended up 483 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,080 in one of the issues of his sketchbook. 484 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,240 And then a few years back, when Itty Bitty was first ill and 485 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,840 being diagnosed with diabetes, I was like, hey, can I use that 486 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,740 picture to make a thing for HIV? Well, it turns out Itty Bitty 487 00:29:38,740 --> 00:29:41,420 was diabetic and she got diagnosed and she was good and 488 00:29:41,420 --> 00:29:45,700 she had you know three more years with us so well, four more 489 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,060 technically. So there was that. 490 00:29:49,140 --> 00:29:53,580 But yeah, he was super nice and gifted, gifted us that and 491 00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:56,540 that's kind of been our I mean it's it's named after the cat 492 00:29:56,540 --> 00:29:59,490 and. That's yeah, it's great. 493 00:29:59,690 --> 00:30:03,010 But that original green, I've had the hardest time actually 494 00:30:03,010 --> 00:30:06,250 recreating that. So because it was done in 495 00:30:06,250 --> 00:30:09,290 traditional media, so it's like you can't exactly match the 496 00:30:09,290 --> 00:30:14,090 CMYK, but I will do my best to make sure that color that the 497 00:30:14,090 --> 00:30:19,570 teal green blue is on a shirt for you, right? 498 00:30:20,450 --> 00:30:21,770 We'll make it. It's a nice one. 499 00:30:21,810 --> 00:30:24,010 I'm definitely rocking. Absolutely. 500 00:30:24,050 --> 00:30:26,770 If if the number of disaster tours I'm sure to have is any 501 00:30:26,770 --> 00:30:28,570 indication, I'll probably give one of all of them. 502 00:30:28,570 --> 00:30:32,650 So we'll see from there. I also love the new the the logo 503 00:30:32,650 --> 00:30:35,210 on your website too that has just the space Penguin ink, but 504 00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:37,170 the ink is shorter so there's two eyes next to it. 505 00:30:37,170 --> 00:30:38,970 I saw that recently. That's really gorgeous. 506 00:30:38,970 --> 00:30:41,210 Good one. And also scrolling through the 507 00:30:41,210 --> 00:30:44,930 website is the the normal like kind of orange red color for 508 00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:48,250 dread nights already out? Because I see it on the page and 509 00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:52,280 I see a buy it now button. This It shouldn't be live 510 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,240 though, right? Well, you should. 511 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,480 You shouldn't be. It lets me go to 100 and. 70 512 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,640 sales today on that lets me go to PayPal, So I don't know 513 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,640 really, you know? Yeah. 514 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,520 Should I not just snag that real quick? 515 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,680 It should say it should say sold out. 516 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,520 It should say Dreadnight. Says they sold out, so and. 517 00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:20,510 Hardcover. Not large hardcover, but 518 00:31:20,510 --> 00:31:22,030 hardcover. Yeah, the ring of her. 519 00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:25,910 So if you if you click that that by it now it takes you to I just 520 00:31:25,910 --> 00:31:27,030 did it. Ryan's. 521 00:31:27,870 --> 00:31:29,870 I'm more excited. I apologize. 522 00:31:29,870 --> 00:31:33,470 So on top of, on top of the other stuff that's coming out, I 523 00:31:33,470 --> 00:31:36,270 know at one point you mentioned that there's a second, a second 524 00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:39,030 adrift coming at some point. Is this a yes? 525 00:31:39,030 --> 00:31:40,110 Is it? I don't know if there's someone 526 00:31:40,110 --> 00:31:42,230 else here on the show that might be able to talk a little bit 527 00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:46,590 about a drift, maybe, maybe a little bit more about Adrift and 528 00:31:46,590 --> 00:31:49,430 what the future plans are with that about if there was anybody 529 00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:50,910 else here that could possibly do that. 530 00:31:52,590 --> 00:31:54,190 Am I allowed there? Is that OK? 531 00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:55,310 Absolutely. Yeah. 532 00:31:55,510 --> 00:31:59,270 Like a drift is out and it's proof of concept. 533 00:31:59,270 --> 00:32:00,910 I mean, we knew it was going to do pretty well. 534 00:32:00,910 --> 00:32:04,070 But yeah, Talk talk is about. Sure. 535 00:32:04,270 --> 00:32:06,710 OK, so there. So there's that. 536 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:11,070 That Adrift is the first adventure in this series that 537 00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:14,030 I'm working on. And I shouldn't say working on 538 00:32:14,030 --> 00:32:16,350 because I'm working on a lot of things right now. 539 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,040 So that's that's been one that's been in the in the back of my 540 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:27,280 head more more than anything. But essentially every every one 541 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,080 of the encounters in Adrift is going to be its own full length 542 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:37,000 adventure and or not. I shouldn't say everyone, but 543 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,720 I'm planning on everyone. We'll see how many I get. 544 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,040 I kind of have a little bit of a road map in my head. 545 00:32:44,890 --> 00:32:50,050 But the the next one I'm going to do is the quiet room and it 546 00:32:50,050 --> 00:32:58,850 is going to be a saw style like escape trap house kind of thing. 547 00:33:00,930 --> 00:33:04,810 So I've been watching a ton of like. 548 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:09,380 Torture horror and stuff lately, so you know the extreme stuff. 549 00:33:09,580 --> 00:33:13,180 So I've I've got lots of ideas brewing. 550 00:33:13,180 --> 00:33:18,460 And are we talking like martyrs? Are we talking like Serbian? 551 00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:19,340 Like how? How? 552 00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:21,700 I would never. I've actually never seen A 553 00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:24,100 Serbian film, and to be honest, I don't know that I would ever 554 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:27,980 watch it unless unless I had like. 555 00:33:28,850 --> 00:33:32,010 Unless I was good, like planning to like write some kind of blog 556 00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:37,810 about like where where extreme meets like unnecessary, you 557 00:33:37,810 --> 00:33:41,930 know, like I but like, you know, I do plan to watch Salo 120 Days 558 00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:44,330 of Sodom because I've heard that that movie is actually really 559 00:33:44,330 --> 00:33:47,770 good despite being extremely disturbing and movies like that. 560 00:33:47,770 --> 00:33:49,530 Yeah, Martyrs is a great example. 561 00:33:49,530 --> 00:33:53,010 Martyrs 2008 is one of my favorite movies I think I've 562 00:33:53,010 --> 00:33:54,970 ever seen. I think it's fucking beautiful. 563 00:33:57,300 --> 00:33:59,980 Despite it being horrific and filled with torture. 564 00:34:00,580 --> 00:34:05,340 Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, for the genre, I martyrs 565 00:34:05,340 --> 00:34:07,620 high tension inside. Like a lot of just. 566 00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:11,139 I mean fantastic that are great. The guy who directed Martyrs 567 00:34:11,139 --> 00:34:16,219 also did a movie called I Keep I Always Forget Incident in 568 00:34:16,219 --> 00:34:20,540 Ghostland, which is another one of those which is just full of 569 00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:23,540 like things that you can't imagine. 570 00:34:25,060 --> 00:34:28,699 But in, like, extremely beautiful ways. 571 00:34:28,780 --> 00:34:33,860 Like, like it's got this weird, like, binary thing that just, 572 00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:36,380 like hurts when you're watching it, you know, Which is one of 573 00:34:36,380 --> 00:34:37,699 the reasons why. Anyway, I'm getting super 574 00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:38,780 distracted. I fucking love her. 575 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:42,139 I should go back to the the the, the thing that got me here. 576 00:34:42,780 --> 00:34:43,380 Yeah. Drift. 577 00:34:43,380 --> 00:34:46,100 So anyway, the next one's going to be like a torture room, kind 578 00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:49,060 of like sauce escape trap room kind of thing. 579 00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:52,610 And then? We'll move on from there. 580 00:34:52,610 --> 00:34:57,370 I basically my idea is to kind of link little things here and 581 00:34:57,370 --> 00:35:01,410 there throughout all the adventures back to a drift and 582 00:35:01,410 --> 00:35:04,210 vice versa there. There are like little things 583 00:35:04,210 --> 00:35:06,410 here and there in a drift in the adventure. 584 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,800 In a couple of the the encounters that you can find 585 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,920 that are like tied to the ship and I kind of want to do that 586 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,880 throughout all of them. It's like link them all together 587 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,360 in different ways. So you can kind of play them in 588 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,720 any order and or run them in any order and you would still have 589 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:28,840 like kind of a cohesive story no matter what order you run it in 590 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,360 the. Kirby verse, the Kirby. 591 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,760 Well then that already exists. So, But anyway, yeah, that's, 592 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,370 yeah. So I should get working on that 593 00:35:39,370 --> 00:35:43,770 next one, Derek. You demand it's better than. 594 00:35:43,850 --> 00:35:47,010 Zero draft. That's and you've been thinking 595 00:35:47,010 --> 00:35:49,530 about. For two months, Yeah. 596 00:35:49,530 --> 00:35:51,010 And. And the really cool thing about 597 00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:58,520 that is when when you. Sent me that that first bit and 598 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,120 then you you sent me you know the the list of all of all of 599 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,840 the rooms and stuff and we've spent some time going back. 600 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,080 You know we both suffer from a DHD and we both have a tendency 601 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,320 to like do more stuff and do more stuff and it's been a great 602 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,160 exercise and and both of us kind of reining it in and tempering 603 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,760 each other's expectations and expectations together and. 604 00:36:24,490 --> 00:36:26,970 We have done the good thing and we haven't been like, OK, 605 00:36:26,970 --> 00:36:29,530 there's going to be two of them and there's going to be this 606 00:36:29,530 --> 00:36:30,770 amount of pages and there's this. 607 00:36:30,770 --> 00:36:34,170 We've we've, yes, we've discussed how big each one is 608 00:36:34,170 --> 00:36:36,050 going to be. Loosely, We've discussed that 609 00:36:36,050 --> 00:36:39,010 they're going to be different form factors for each one. 610 00:36:40,010 --> 00:36:43,690 And I mean, I'm, I'm not, I'm going to lose big surprise 611 00:36:43,690 --> 00:36:45,770 eventually. Our goal is to collect them all 612 00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:49,570 into some sort of box set when they're all out, but it's when 613 00:36:49,570 --> 00:36:53,620 they're all out, we're not. Putting things on the timeline 614 00:36:53,620 --> 00:36:55,740 and being like, yeah, it's going to be every six months, blah, 615 00:36:55,740 --> 00:36:58,500 blah, blah. Because when you start throwing 616 00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:03,700 up things like that is when you start to coming to the pressure 617 00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:06,900 and you start phoning stuff in. You start getting, you know, 618 00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:09,580 overworked and and bent out of shape like it's. 619 00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:14,140 Again, it's part of the reason that I personally am not doing. 620 00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:17,980 Kickstarters and crowd funds for this first year of of space 621 00:37:17,980 --> 00:37:21,540 Penguin Like believe me, I I know where the money is at with 622 00:37:21,540 --> 00:37:23,900 it and the marketing and all that, so you know and what it 623 00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:27,740 does. But I do not want that added 624 00:37:27,740 --> 00:37:31,380 level of pressure of having to satisfy backers. 625 00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:33,220 The things that we make need to be. 626 00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:36,750 Ready to go when they go, yes, eventually some sort of crowd 627 00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:38,910 fund, it said. You know, for whatever it takes 628 00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:40,950 for some future project or something. 629 00:37:41,230 --> 00:37:45,310 But specifically with the drift like it and and puck sector like 630 00:37:45,310 --> 00:37:48,030 it doesn't need to be like oh, six months from now we're going 631 00:37:48,030 --> 00:37:50,830 to have another one. If we go a full year without it, 632 00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:53,070 it's okay. We're both have other things 633 00:37:53,070 --> 00:37:57,790 that we're working on that we'll be doing other stuff on and the 634 00:37:57,790 --> 00:38:01,950 things when they get out. Are going to be that much 635 00:38:01,950 --> 00:38:05,430 different, that much better. I kind of really, it's funny 636 00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:10,070 like it just occurred to me that that this collaboration between 637 00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:15,310 you and me and Kristen with that is very similar to what Jeff 638 00:38:15,310 --> 00:38:20,230 Lemire and Andreas Sorrentino are doing with you. 639 00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:24,390 Like if you like horror with the Bone Orchard mythos, which is 640 00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:29,950 their new series of comic books and related graphic novels and 641 00:38:29,950 --> 00:38:33,510 stuff. The first issue was the first 642 00:38:33,550 --> 00:38:38,150 bit of the Bone Orchard mythos was a free RPG day last year 643 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:43,350 last summer 2022. And then they did a three issue 644 00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:47,110 or no sorry A5 issue miniseries of no no. 645 00:38:47,310 --> 00:38:50,510 There was a hardcover graphic novel called The Passageway and 646 00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:54,350 then there was a 5 issue miniseries of comic books called 647 00:38:54,350 --> 00:38:59,910 10,000 Black Feathers. And then and then the next one. 648 00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:04,250 Is tenement and the 10 issues. And I just reason. 649 00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:06,570 I'm saying this because I'm looking over here at the shelf 650 00:39:06,570 --> 00:39:08,970 of the comic books, and I was like, I got comic books on 651 00:39:08,970 --> 00:39:12,530 Friday that I just put over there that I didn't even yeah. 652 00:39:13,130 --> 00:39:16,090 You know, I literally just was about to buy 10,000 Black 653 00:39:16,090 --> 00:39:19,210 Feathers the other day. I had the whole stack from my 654 00:39:19,210 --> 00:39:21,890 comic shop because I was looking for some new stuff to pick up, 655 00:39:22,210 --> 00:39:27,850 and then I had to pick between that and there's another series 656 00:39:27,850 --> 00:39:29,170 I just got. It's the new. 657 00:39:30,020 --> 00:39:33,260 The What the fuck is it? Someone is killing, Someone's 658 00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:37,060 killing the children. The the sequel series to that. 659 00:39:37,180 --> 00:39:38,900 There's a new. Series that house the slaughter. 660 00:39:39,260 --> 00:39:40,780 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it is. 661 00:39:40,780 --> 00:39:42,660 I still got the first three issues of that and then I filled 662 00:39:42,660 --> 00:39:45,740 out my plush, my plush series because I had a couple. 663 00:39:45,740 --> 00:39:48,460 Of dupes that ended hilariously, by the way. 664 00:39:48,460 --> 00:39:51,740 Yeah, yeah. Fucking good, dude. 665 00:39:52,340 --> 00:39:55,460 But yeah, I got it now I got to go get that 10. 1000. 666 00:39:55,740 --> 00:39:57,300 Because it looked really good, I just. 667 00:39:57,300 --> 00:40:00,230 Had to pick but. Well, and the great thing with 668 00:40:00,230 --> 00:40:03,470 that is and I think why it, why it works and it's a good, it's a 669 00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:08,510 good comparison with what we're doing here is that each of those 670 00:40:09,590 --> 00:40:14,190 series segments, books, whatever that comes out under the The 671 00:40:14,350 --> 00:40:16,910 Bone Orchard mythos is selfcontained. 672 00:40:16,910 --> 00:40:21,000 You don't have, you don't. I guess you get more if you read 673 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,200 the passageway and then read 10,000 Black Feathers and then 674 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,680 you, you know, as you release it, as they're releasing them in 675 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,480 order. Sure, who doesn't? 676 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:31,160 But they they literally don't have. 677 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,080 The passageway is phenomenal, by the way, very much worth the 20 678 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,320 bucks or whatever. For the hardcover graphic novel 679 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,800 like I it's it's really creepy good. 680 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,000 But if that's the only one you ever read, you would be fine, 681 00:40:43,410 --> 00:40:45,530 you know, and you could do 10,000 Black Feathers. 682 00:40:45,970 --> 00:40:48,490 I'm excited to die and I'm going to stay up all night. 683 00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:51,250 That Power network we're talking about comic books. 684 00:40:51,250 --> 00:40:54,130 And now I'm going to read. I I have a whole stack that I'm 685 00:40:54,130 --> 00:40:55,930 trying to catch up on so I'm probably going to do the same 686 00:40:55,930 --> 00:41:01,530 thing but and that's what that's the thing with with puck sector 687 00:41:01,530 --> 00:41:06,090 is adrift has it's it's it's complete in and of itself 688 00:41:06,090 --> 00:41:09,610 because of the the things that happen aboard the ship. 689 00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:16,080 But you don't have to have played a drift to to play each 690 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,040 of the other books that are coming out and you don't have 691 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,280 to. Yeah, like we we will get a lot 692 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,120 of folks who'd be like, oh I you know when they'll come on on the 693 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,920 second one or the third one and they want to go back and buy the 694 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,520 other two. And that's that's awesome and 695 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,200 great and stuff. But it's not required. 696 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,670 Like it's not it's not like you have to see these and it's if 697 00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:39,990 you don't have to play through these in a specific order, 698 00:41:40,270 --> 00:41:42,670 you'll get like you said you're going to, you're going to pepper 699 00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:46,750 an item here or a name here or a key card here and stuff like 700 00:41:46,750 --> 00:41:49,310 that that that does work for other spots. 701 00:41:49,310 --> 00:41:53,590 But I mean, if we're sticking with our, with our ethos of of 702 00:41:53,830 --> 00:41:58,670 making situations and and encounters and modules, content 703 00:41:58,710 --> 00:42:03,840 and making them great for people to interact with, they just 704 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,240 exist. They don't. 705 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,200 They. It's not required. 706 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,080 You don't. You're not playing against the 707 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,920 Giants where you know you go 123 through it, right? 708 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,440 You can do that. I mean I think a bad example 709 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,160 because against the Giants you can play them all separately and 710 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,400 and with this the slave vote, whatever. 711 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,280 It's like a it's like a big movie. 712 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,320 Like, you know when you get to the end of the movie and it's 713 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,280 like just a lead in for the sequel or whatever. 714 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,080 It's like it's not that they're all stand alone. 715 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,760 Exactly. Yeah. 716 00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:34,590 One of my favorite novels are like that too. 717 00:42:34,590 --> 00:42:36,430 It's like you could just read the first one. 718 00:42:36,590 --> 00:42:41,630 Hyperion's a great example. Or like Miss Born by Brands 719 00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:43,830 Anderson, you can just read the first one and you're like this 720 00:42:43,830 --> 00:42:46,510 is a great self-contained thing, but the moment you expand into 721 00:42:46,510 --> 00:42:49,230 that and you walk into the next one, like you get more out. 722 00:42:49,350 --> 00:42:51,030 That's really cool. I think it's a really great way 723 00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:52,860 to do things and I think like. You know what? 724 00:42:53,060 --> 00:42:56,540 Having that pressure. Red Wall is a great example of 725 00:42:56,540 --> 00:42:58,180 that. Red Wall The Red Wall series. 726 00:42:58,220 --> 00:43:00,740 Example of. That because that I don't know 727 00:43:00,740 --> 00:43:03,460 if anyone else here is red Red Wall besides I guess Hunter. 728 00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:07,580 But that's actually a really good example, because Brian 729 00:43:07,580 --> 00:43:10,460 Jakes really fucked a fucked. Ton of this. 730 00:43:11,060 --> 00:43:14,140 And they're all in the same universe, and they all reference 731 00:43:14,140 --> 00:43:16,700 each other in various ways, but there's not really any 732 00:43:16,820 --> 00:43:18,540 chronological order to read them. 733 00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:20,660 You can read them in any order you want. 734 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,440 Because he wrote them in the most wild order possible. 735 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,840 Like, you know, I think the 13th book is the first one in the 736 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,040 chronological series. Like it's just so weird anyway. 737 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,240 Yeah, great pool. Also I love Red Wall and shout 738 00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:37,960 out because every time we talk about Red Wall, I'm like I'm the 739 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,480 only person in the room is Red Red Wall. 740 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,720 But now I'm going to go fucking play Mouse Redder. 741 00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:46,360 Like I've read the very first volume, the very first one, and 742 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,630 I think it was when I read it, I was a little bit older. 743 00:43:51,630 --> 00:43:56,070 You know, I was still probably a mid teenager because that what 744 00:43:56,070 --> 00:44:00,830 came out and that came out when I was a kid, kid like 84. 745 00:44:01,110 --> 00:44:05,870 Probably, maybe 89, but I think I I was. 746 00:44:06,430 --> 00:44:09,550 I read the first one and I enjoyed it, but I've never read 747 00:44:09,550 --> 00:44:11,710 any of the other ones. But I also don't feel like I'm 748 00:44:11,710 --> 00:44:15,510 missing anything by I'm not reading the rest of it. 749 00:44:16,510 --> 00:44:19,430 Yeah, yeah. But you are missing so much 750 00:44:20,430 --> 00:44:24,870 sure. Listen, we got yeah, we gotta 751 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:28,030 do, we gotta do Mouse Ritter, get some Red Wall action. 752 00:44:28,030 --> 00:44:30,590 I mean, there's so many critter games that we could play Mouse 753 00:44:30,590 --> 00:44:33,510 Ritter, Mouse Guard, Scurry. There's a bunch out there. 754 00:44:33,870 --> 00:44:36,710 But one of the things you said that was next is Red Solstice. 755 00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:38,350 And we've talked about it a bunch of times on the show. 756 00:44:38,350 --> 00:44:40,950 When you were here last time we went through each of the the 757 00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:44,190 zines and what they were for those that don't know because 758 00:44:44,190 --> 00:44:46,070 this is Red Solstice #3 coming out. 759 00:44:46,070 --> 00:44:49,120 Now, what exactly is Red Solstice Joe? 760 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:54,960 Red Solstice is our friend still like Andres 2 * a year. 761 00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:00,920 Zine semiannual happens release on the Solstice and there is 762 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,480 kind of a menagerie you know conglomeration of really cool 763 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,610 neat stuff for all kinds of different RPG systems I think 764 00:45:10,610 --> 00:45:15,410 what an issue 3. Kirby there's a Guild thing for 765 00:45:15,410 --> 00:45:20,450 your game. I didn't I didn't do any writing 766 00:45:20,450 --> 00:45:27,610 for three I I I edited on 3 but Stella has some ghosts encounter 767 00:45:27,610 --> 00:45:32,370 tables or no I'm sorry I ruined that has some random encounter 768 00:45:32,370 --> 00:45:34,850 tables for like if they can't finally the people you walk up 769 00:45:34,850 --> 00:45:37,890 to the last table of them is ghost which is so good. 770 00:45:38,890 --> 00:45:43,690 There is some troika stuff in there There's another small in 771 00:45:43,930 --> 00:45:54,130 installment of here is weird just weird chemical induced 772 00:45:54,250 --> 00:45:56,970 natured I think that one that's for troika. 773 00:45:57,290 --> 00:46:01,210 There's some BX it's just kind of a just a it's it's it's a 774 00:46:02,450 --> 00:46:06,850 yeah just like a nice little collection of neat weird stuff 775 00:46:06,850 --> 00:46:09,770 that you can drop in and drop out of your games for specific 776 00:46:09,770 --> 00:46:13,930 stuff or sorry for for nonspecific you know I'm just 777 00:46:13,930 --> 00:46:16,050 like ooh this is weird. I can run this. 778 00:46:17,130 --> 00:46:21,530 It's kind of similar to OOH. I can pitch it back to Kirby. 779 00:46:21,850 --> 00:46:24,930 It's kind of similar to what's going on over with. 780 00:46:25,850 --> 00:46:28,380 I almost said Dark horse Shit it. 781 00:46:28,820 --> 00:46:34,140 Is something that's a problem. But no, it's fine to dead horse. 782 00:46:34,140 --> 00:46:35,620 Look at that. Like that, like that. 783 00:46:35,620 --> 00:46:37,940 There it is, a little. Sneak peek of something really 784 00:46:37,940 --> 00:46:44,780 cool. But yeah no at least it's we're 785 00:46:44,780 --> 00:46:49,060 we're seeing folks start start to do that and folks have been 786 00:46:49,060 --> 00:46:53,780 doing it for a bit you know like their stuff like knock what barn 787 00:46:53,780 --> 00:46:58,470 was kind of and and released in in issues and stuff like that. 788 00:46:58,470 --> 00:47:01,470 Like folks have been doing it for a bit and I'm I'm really 789 00:47:01,470 --> 00:47:07,750 happy that we're starting to see stuff that is a bit more of it 790 00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:10,630 can be used for all kinds of stuff. 791 00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:13,230 You know it's it like I said more like more of them in Ash 792 00:47:13,230 --> 00:47:17,830 St. more of just oh I don't know yeah maybe I'll I'll spend 15 793 00:47:17,830 --> 00:47:21,150 I'll spend 20 bucks on you know getting grabbing an issue. 794 00:47:21,150 --> 00:47:23,950 I don't. I don't know what's in it but I 795 00:47:23,950 --> 00:47:30,140 think people will be pleasantly surprised with the quality and 796 00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:37,220 Red Solstice because it's it's it's good and it's interesting 797 00:47:37,220 --> 00:47:42,300 and it's intriguing like and it runs the gambit of comical. 798 00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:46,940 Farcical like Scumbos problems, which is about a goblin that you 799 00:47:46,940 --> 00:47:51,990 run into in the woods and he's got a broken down motorcycle and 800 00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:55,230 he's got all kinds of weird random issues that Christian 801 00:47:55,230 --> 00:47:59,710 Kessler wrote And then like I said you got more serious like 802 00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:04,510 random encounter tables. It's just yeah, it's just it's 803 00:48:04,510 --> 00:48:06,110 neat. There's just all kinds of 804 00:48:06,110 --> 00:48:07,510 really, really cool stuff about it. 805 00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:13,150 I worked out a deal once Stella. We've got some extra copies of 806 00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:16,870 issue one and issue 2. So for those who don't have 807 00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:19,430 issue one and issue 2, we're going to offer a three pack of 808 00:48:19,810 --> 00:48:26,170 1-2 and three with a little bit of a introductory discount. 809 00:48:26,210 --> 00:48:30,130 And then we're also we have copies to offer of #3 by itself 810 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,960 and that's been this has been like a super fun project. 811 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,240 It's always great fun working with Stella. 812 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:43,240 Going to get her on the show here with y'all one time she's 813 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:47,120 going to she's going to be on spell burn with me next week 814 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,760 because we're we're going to do spell burn on Friday. 815 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,730 We're going to have 15 minutes. I'll just say this, we're 816 00:48:54,730 --> 00:48:59,290 working on our costumes already. There we go. 817 00:49:00,170 --> 00:49:01,370 But yeah. You know, stupid. 818 00:49:02,290 --> 00:49:05,210 Let her know that 100% anytime she wants to come on or 819 00:49:05,210 --> 00:49:10,090 absolutely don't have her on where did the was the first 820 00:49:10,090 --> 00:49:12,910 issue. Is that from LFOSR? 821 00:49:12,910 --> 00:49:14,790 Like who actually printed that? Like why? 822 00:49:15,350 --> 00:49:17,870 What was the what was the printing? 823 00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:19,990 Or who actually puts that out? I can't remember what shop I 824 00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:21,950 bought that on. Maybe I bought it all in LFOSR 825 00:49:21,950 --> 00:49:27,190 shop is like the like the curated stuff. 826 00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:30,190 But yeah, where did that issue one and two come from? 827 00:49:30,910 --> 00:49:33,510 Yeah, no, Stella has handled all of. 828 00:49:33,830 --> 00:49:37,780 The only thing that anyone I'll beside Stella has done is 829 00:49:37,780 --> 00:49:40,820 obviously the, the contributors have, you know, written and 830 00:49:40,820 --> 00:49:45,260 stuff like that and I. It took me, took care of 831 00:49:45,740 --> 00:49:47,060 editorial. That's me. 832 00:49:47,060 --> 00:49:50,540 Yeah. I I, I help her out and handle 833 00:49:50,820 --> 00:49:53,860 editorial on it. But no, she she handles all of 834 00:49:53,860 --> 00:49:58,220 the the design and layout and the curation and you know, 835 00:49:59,350 --> 00:50:01,750 contracting with the cover artists. 836 00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:04,950 She gets new cover artists from Tumblr every time. 837 00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:08,470 She's fucking just crazy taste and she just finds these people 838 00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:11,150 and they just kill it. Like we saw the teaser cover for 839 00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:14,990 #4 over all the works that are that today. 840 00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:19,910 I know, I know. But you know, she did printed 841 00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:22,950 all those through mix in and then it handles that. 842 00:50:23,230 --> 00:50:26,710 But yeah, you probably got it through LFOSR on the curated 843 00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:29,970 content, yeah. I know I have #1 floating 844 00:50:29,970 --> 00:50:33,130 around, but I'm I'm actually reorganizing this and since it 845 00:50:33,130 --> 00:50:35,210 took me 6 months to do it the first time, you're just going to 846 00:50:35,210 --> 00:50:37,490 see giant gaps and. It's got a book on the wall. 847 00:50:37,930 --> 00:50:40,170 Behind me? Well, I mean, it's going to get 848 00:50:40,170 --> 00:50:41,690 to a point. What's going to happen is I'm 849 00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:44,370 going to get annoyed one day that I'm stepping over 30 piles 850 00:50:44,370 --> 00:50:48,090 of books in and out of my room every fucking day, and then all 851 00:50:48,090 --> 00:50:49,250 one day just be like, you know what? 852 00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:52,130 I'm going to hyper focus my ADHD on this and get half of it done 853 00:50:52,690 --> 00:50:53,890 and then wait another six months. 854 00:50:53,890 --> 00:50:56,290 But I know I have #1 floating around. 855 00:50:56,290 --> 00:50:58,450 I grabbed #2 out when I was digging through stuff. 856 00:50:58,450 --> 00:51:00,330 But really? I had to have #3 coming out. 857 00:51:00,330 --> 00:51:02,810 When is that? When is that actually coming to 858 00:51:02,810 --> 00:51:05,850 the store? Like that I can just hopefully 859 00:51:05,850 --> 00:51:11,970 middle of this week I sent Di the photographs because we 860 00:51:11,970 --> 00:51:14,490 actually take those are actual real photographs of our 861 00:51:14,490 --> 00:51:17,010 products. It's it's it's fun. 862 00:51:17,010 --> 00:51:20,730 Like when we were building doing build out, DI was like Oh no, 863 00:51:20,730 --> 00:51:22,970 no, no, no. Actual photos are better than 864 00:51:24,180 --> 00:51:28,300 then mockups and stuff. I was just like OKII, you know 865 00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:32,620 like we'll do it. So I sent photos to him tonight 866 00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:35,340 time zone. So he's going to have that right 867 00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:37,340 and early in his morning and probably work on Tuesday. 868 00:51:37,340 --> 00:51:43,060 The goal is to put them up Wednesday so that they'll be 869 00:51:43,340 --> 00:51:47,420 available there. We're still trying to figure out 870 00:51:47,420 --> 00:51:51,660 which day of the week is going to be our our better day for 871 00:51:52,060 --> 00:51:58,510 releasing newsletters and stuff. You know EE F usually does 872 00:51:58,510 --> 00:52:04,710 theirs on Wednesdays and Sphere which does theirs on Tuesdays 873 00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:08,950 and sometimes on Thursdays. Most a lot of that is like when 874 00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:12,110 new stuff comes in there and I think that's kind of where we're 875 00:52:12,110 --> 00:52:14,550 at too. We're not quite sure like we did 876 00:52:14,550 --> 00:52:16,470 the new one. We did our first one on Thursday 877 00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:19,070 because we launched on the Thursday and then I did the the 878 00:52:19,070 --> 00:52:24,460 one week recap and the thank you, you know last Thursday and 879 00:52:24,460 --> 00:52:30,780 then this week we tried out Saturday we do, we got some 880 00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:33,780 sessions you know because you can see all the analytics like 881 00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:35,980 it's it's it's it's a it's a learning curve. 882 00:52:35,980 --> 00:52:38,860 There's not going to be any one perfect day especially during 883 00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:43,420 the summer. But the goal, because travels 884 00:52:43,420 --> 00:52:45,580 are coming up soon, is to get it out. 885 00:52:46,380 --> 00:52:53,660 I think Wednesday because I know next Friday EF is having their 886 00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:56,300 summer sale or yes, next Friday night. 887 00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:59,980 So I'll be hanging out over on Necropolis server like I usually 888 00:52:59,980 --> 00:53:04,460 do for those and watching everybody buy all kinds of crazy 889 00:53:04,460 --> 00:53:09,460 random stuff. And I will say this that I have 890 00:53:09,460 --> 00:53:18,430 received my cocreators copies of the of the summer Spectacular 891 00:53:20,030 --> 00:53:23,630 totally not thinly veiled TV Pastor Shrimp off. 892 00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:28,310 I don't know if viewers of the weekly Scroll are familiar with 893 00:53:28,310 --> 00:53:34,830 that concept. So three years ago, well, when I 894 00:53:34,830 --> 00:53:39,740 was working with Exalted Funeral, Matt wanted a special 895 00:53:39,740 --> 00:53:46,740 Zine for summer and I worked with with Jared and Anxiety 896 00:53:46,740 --> 00:53:54,900 Wizard and we did Troika Feld which was Troika backgrounds for 897 00:53:55,020 --> 00:54:00,140 Seinfeld characters. Literally not it's it's it's a 898 00:54:00,140 --> 00:54:04,340 freebie that results The Funeral gives out with the 1st 100 899 00:54:06,380 --> 00:54:10,370 purchases you know during their summer sale and we followed that 900 00:54:10,370 --> 00:54:15,970 up for the next sale with Frasing Galion, So Fraser and 901 00:54:16,130 --> 00:54:17,570 Evan Galion. Oh, it's in my. 902 00:54:17,570 --> 00:54:22,450 Living room. Yeah, that one's funny. 903 00:54:22,530 --> 00:54:25,290 Like, I actually don't have a copy of that. 904 00:54:25,290 --> 00:54:28,650 I need to ask Jared or Matt or somebody who has a copy of that 905 00:54:28,650 --> 00:54:29,850 because I still have a truck about. 906 00:54:30,490 --> 00:54:36,650 But we like we literally printed 120 of those and you know 100 907 00:54:36,650 --> 00:54:41,850 for the for the store and then you know 20 for the if you you 908 00:54:41,850 --> 00:54:44,690 know a few copies here for the creators and Matt and Kristen 909 00:54:44,690 --> 00:54:46,930 keep copies, you know for the archives and stuff like that. 910 00:54:47,730 --> 00:54:51,290 I know the first time we did one, people were very upset 911 00:54:51,290 --> 00:54:55,490 because they were, they didn't get theirs and we didn't do a 912 00:54:55,490 --> 00:54:58,880 PDF release of it because we're just like why? 913 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,280 It's whatever, you know, like. But if people paid attention 914 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,880 last year in the, I think it was in the bundle that we put out 915 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,960 last year for the free RPG sale, the digital bundle. 916 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,940 I think we slid Troika Field in there, I'm pretty sure So Eagle 917 00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:19,260 those, those eagle eyes will be able to find the other issues at 918 00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:22,420 some point here and there. So thus far there's been Troy 919 00:55:22,420 --> 00:55:24,500 Cafell, there's been Frasingalian. 920 00:55:25,260 --> 00:55:32,540 Last year we did TV House, which is a bunch of maps and floor 921 00:55:32,540 --> 00:55:36,940 plans for houses, but in the style of the Judges Guild 922 00:55:36,940 --> 00:55:41,420 modules, The old, you know, blue and magenta modules from the 923 00:55:41,660 --> 00:55:46,530 late 70s, early 80s. But you know, using The Golden 924 00:55:46,530 --> 00:55:54,210 Girls House, right? So I'm not going to spoil what 925 00:55:54,210 --> 00:55:58,250 this year's is, but if people subscribe to the EF newsletter, 926 00:55:58,250 --> 00:56:02,610 they will have seen a slight slight teaser preview in last 927 00:56:02,610 --> 00:56:05,890 week's, which I thought was when I got down to the end of it, I 928 00:56:05,890 --> 00:56:07,490 was like, shit, where you go Matt. 929 00:56:07,490 --> 00:56:11,570 Nice one. But this year's was fun again. 930 00:56:12,250 --> 00:56:14,840 I didn't get. I personally didn't contribute 931 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,200 much to TV House, but I did split. 932 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:24,800 I did half of the half of what we did writing wise for this 933 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:29,160 year's and funny story with that U PS:. 934 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,880 Actually ended up those ended up getting my copies. 935 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:38,230 Ended up getting delivered to the wrong address and luckily 936 00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:42,310 enough the person who they got delivered to contacted me and I 937 00:56:42,310 --> 00:56:45,710 got my copies. I was just like, oh he was like 938 00:56:45,710 --> 00:56:47,630 what is it? And I was I opened it up and 939 00:56:47,630 --> 00:56:50,990 gave him one. He was like, what the fuck is 940 00:56:50,990 --> 00:56:54,510 this shit. I was like, I'm I I make weird 941 00:56:54,510 --> 00:57:00,430 books with my friends. So yeah, I'm I'm excited for 942 00:57:00,430 --> 00:57:06,150 this for this year's it's it's it's silly and it's a very 943 00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:08,550 elongated and joke and I'm excited to do those. 944 00:57:08,550 --> 00:57:12,470 Those are those are kind of fun things and like they're just 945 00:57:12,670 --> 00:57:16,750 they just exist so. Frasing Gillian is such a fever 946 00:57:16,750 --> 00:57:19,070 dream. Like, I've explained it to so 947 00:57:19,070 --> 00:57:20,350 many people, especially when I got it. 948 00:57:20,350 --> 00:57:23,190 I'm like, this is so good and they're like, what the fuck is 949 00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:27,630 this? Yeah, I I would. 950 00:57:27,710 --> 00:57:29,630 I would. I would love to play Frasing. 951 00:57:29,790 --> 00:57:33,910 I was never a. Seinfeld watcher. 952 00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:35,550 It just never hit the chord with me. 953 00:57:35,550 --> 00:57:40,310 But for whatever reason I love this shit out of Frasier and I I 954 00:57:40,430 --> 00:57:43,950 I can't wait to to at some point maybe play frasing Galion that 955 00:57:43,950 --> 00:57:45,550 would be fantastic. Two things. 956 00:57:45,550 --> 00:57:49,150 One, I never noticed that Schirkefeld was in that bundle. 957 00:57:49,150 --> 00:57:51,710 I just went to my Dropbox and searched it and there it is. 958 00:57:51,710 --> 00:57:54,510 I actually get to read it. And two I also did just look up 959 00:57:54,510 --> 00:57:56,790 that newsletter and and to see the image at the bottom. 960 00:57:56,790 --> 00:57:59,310 So I'm extremely excited for that as well. 961 00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:02,710 So yeah, yeah. I guess I. 962 00:58:02,910 --> 00:58:04,710 You probably look now too. Huh. 963 00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:07,630 Oh, here, let me, let me shoot you a little Discord message 964 00:58:07,710 --> 00:58:08,470 here. Boom. 965 00:58:08,510 --> 00:58:15,670 There you go. Yeah, you know, I I didn't, I 966 00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:17,990 was not aware of Troikafeld. I think the first time actually 967 00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:21,470 saw Troikafeld was like way after the fact going for like a 968 00:58:21,470 --> 00:58:24,790 lot of money somewhere else. So I definitely don't have one 969 00:58:24,790 --> 00:58:27,750 of those. But when Frasingalian dropped, I 970 00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:29,350 snatched that up in about 2 seconds. 971 00:58:29,350 --> 00:58:31,270 I'm glad that they eventually put out some more. 972 00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:34,790 I know Hunter you were able to grab one, but any of of those 973 00:58:34,790 --> 00:58:36,870 kind of like weird offbeat, though. 974 00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:39,750 That's that's what drives a lot of this. 975 00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:42,750 The the shelf behind me is a lot of those just like weird, 976 00:58:42,750 --> 00:58:46,870 offbeat little things that are like super hard to find and and 977 00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:48,710 really interesting so. Yeah, I get that. 978 00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:50,070 You gotta get the floor of the man. 979 00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:54,270 Troika. Gating alligators. 980 00:58:54,550 --> 00:58:56,290 Yeah. Oh yeah. 981 00:58:56,290 --> 00:59:02,730 I mean I that I I Jeremy is a great friend and I I edited that 982 00:59:02,730 --> 00:59:04,330 one of those. I know you said you're the one 983 00:59:04,330 --> 00:59:06,170 who sent it to me. I haven't like. 984 00:59:06,530 --> 00:59:08,090 Oh this is amazing. Yeah. 985 00:59:08,210 --> 00:59:12,970 It's it's so good. It's it's all, it's all based 986 00:59:13,290 --> 00:59:16,130 off of you know Florida Man headlines because down here we 987 00:59:16,130 --> 00:59:21,130 have sunshine laws where you know information goes right up 988 00:59:21,130 --> 00:59:24,880 in the newspapers and you know Florida Man headlines are pretty 989 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:26,520 classic. They're pretty good. 990 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,720 And so Jeremy Jeremy is a mostly lifelong resident. 991 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:39,440 I'm a transplant and yeah, he literally made backgrounds based 992 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,000 off of just random, random shit and. 993 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,600 Yeah, it is. It is a really stupendous piece 994 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:51,280 of of Zine satire and we soak it in the wheat, you know, we 995 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,570 literally are like, hey, this is satire, this is farce. 996 00:59:55,570 --> 01:00:00,610 This is not meant to be taken seriously because it's just not 997 01:00:00,610 --> 01:00:04,970 like and if you actually live down here, like this shit is 998 01:00:04,970 --> 01:00:08,530 real. Like people just is worked out 999 01:00:08,530 --> 01:00:11,850 down here. It floor. 1000 01:00:11,850 --> 01:00:15,890 I don't want to alienate our Florida listeners, but no, we. 1001 01:00:16,010 --> 01:00:22,050 No, we actually do want to hey, have fun with your fascist. 1002 01:00:22,050 --> 01:00:26,370 The accuracy down there so is that is that I thought you said 1003 01:00:26,370 --> 01:00:28,890 it was like Friday, but I said the website here shows it's 1004 01:00:28,890 --> 01:00:31,610 Wednesday and I already set an alarm on my phone for Wednesday. 1005 01:00:31,610 --> 01:00:33,290 Am I wrong on when that might be? 1006 01:00:33,370 --> 01:00:35,210 Oh, you you might be. You might be Ellen. 1007 01:00:35,810 --> 01:00:40,430 You might be on tap. I'm just used to being on being 1008 01:00:40,430 --> 01:00:44,150 on the Friday, so maybe I had to change my plans for Wednesday. 1009 01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:49,750 But yeah, I'm I'm right there with you with like the the the 1010 01:00:49,830 --> 01:00:53,550 the weird and wild. Like I I think there are a lot 1011 01:00:53,550 --> 01:00:57,790 of folks who are just like, oh, zines, they're all. 1012 01:00:58,460 --> 01:01:02,220 You know what what we consider zines or what are considered 1013 01:01:02,220 --> 01:01:05,220 zines or what are what are sold as zines are like they're all 1014 01:01:05,220 --> 01:01:08,380 these like glossy and highly produced and blah blah blah and 1015 01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:10,180 stuff and blah blah. And I was like, yeah, sure there 1016 01:01:10,180 --> 01:01:12,460 are people who do that. I mean some of the stuff that 1017 01:01:12,460 --> 01:01:16,780 that we do is is like it too. But also some of the shit that I 1018 01:01:16,780 --> 01:01:19,900 mean I personally do is like forget everything you thought 1019 01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:23,140 you knew about bread robots. You know like part of The Cave 1020 01:01:23,300 --> 01:01:26,820 capable of spiders thing. Like it's literally 8. 1021 01:01:27,530 --> 01:01:33,090 Cages And it's nonsense about bread robots. 1022 01:01:33,370 --> 01:01:36,130 And what the fuck is a bread robot? 1023 01:01:36,130 --> 01:01:37,810 I don't know. I don't know. 1024 01:01:37,810 --> 01:01:41,610 It was three friends who couldn't sleep and we stayed up 1025 01:01:41,610 --> 01:01:45,090 over like 3 successive nights maybe, and two I don't even 1026 01:01:45,090 --> 01:01:47,640 remember. You talk about a fever dream and 1027 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,080 we and just pounded it out and like you know, can't let it. 1028 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,640 And I like, you know, David and David like making all this art 1029 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,480 random shit. We're just all adding all these 1030 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,760 words in and we posted it up. You know what I'm saying? 1031 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,440 That we did like 3 in that series like Beans RPG and then 1032 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:07,240 the new Leisure dream catalog and it's just just random shit, 1033 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:08,360 you know? Like did I? 1034 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,680 That's fun. Did I know that Beans RPG was 1035 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:14,640 from that? Did we talk about that last 1036 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:15,900 time? I think we did. 1037 01:02:16,020 --> 01:02:17,980 We did, yeah. Because every time I look at it, 1038 01:02:17,980 --> 01:02:20,780 because I, if I remember correctly, there's like no names 1039 01:02:20,780 --> 01:02:22,500 on it. Like, it doesn't say anywhere, 1040 01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:24,460 like who the fuck did this? I did. 1041 01:02:24,580 --> 01:02:27,260 I just have it one day and I'm like, what is this thing? 1042 01:02:27,260 --> 01:02:28,860 It's the greatest thing I've ever read. 1043 01:02:28,860 --> 01:02:31,980 But also it's like nothing but but everything. 1044 01:02:31,980 --> 01:02:34,620 Like, it's just the one of the weirdest, like most interesting 1045 01:02:34,620 --> 01:02:36,620 things on my shelves. I ran into it again while I was 1046 01:02:36,620 --> 01:02:38,380 sorting the other day and pull it out and just said that it was 1047 01:02:38,380 --> 01:02:44,260 like what the fuck is this? Yeah, and and that just. 1048 01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:48,300 It's. It's that sort of just like, da 1049 01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:55,420 da random, you know, wacky bullshit like somebody the other 1050 01:02:55,420 --> 01:02:59,340 day asked me. They were like, do you have any 1051 01:02:59,340 --> 01:03:04,380 copies of Country Carl Classics? And I was like, no, well, I'm 1052 01:03:04,380 --> 01:03:05,700 trying to find one for my friend. 1053 01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:09,080 I was like. I can print one and make one for 1054 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,200 you by hand. And he was like, that's good 1055 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,680 because my friend's having, you know, a rough time of things. 1056 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,000 And I was like, oh man, I'll totally do it for that, you know 1057 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,880 what I'm saying? But CCC was like me and some 1058 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,640 other folks, but the spirit of it is me. 1059 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:29,560 Kind of like writing out my brain and my thoughts and 1060 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:34,880 feelings about growing up. In poverty and a lot of other 1061 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:39,160 shit and a lot of shit that I experienced is you know like and 1062 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,840 it's very angry and it's very full of vitriol. 1063 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,920 And I actually had a person be like do you know that's poor 1064 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,160 shaming And I was like nobody. That's my life. 1065 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:54,120 That's how I grew up. That person and I and we we we 1066 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,680 figured it out, but but it like uses like. 1067 01:03:59,130 --> 01:04:02,810 DCC rules you know country crawl classics it's like it's a it's a 1068 01:04:02,810 --> 01:04:07,930 no to like rhinestone Cowboy and you know Merle Hire and all that 1069 01:04:07,930 --> 01:04:12,690 dumbass shit and you know 70s country like it's it's litter 1070 01:04:12,690 --> 01:04:14,810 it's what I was raised on and grew up on. 1071 01:04:15,810 --> 01:04:17,210 But it's that's that's a sort of thing. 1072 01:04:17,210 --> 01:04:21,450 It's like those were like I think we made maybe 200 total 1073 01:04:21,450 --> 01:04:24,930 over a couple of print runs and they were literally sold and 1074 01:04:24,930 --> 01:04:26,850 given out at conventions and that was it. 1075 01:04:27,220 --> 01:04:28,940 And people are like, when are you going to do another one? 1076 01:04:28,940 --> 01:04:32,740 We're going to do a reprint. And I was like someday when we 1077 01:04:32,740 --> 01:04:36,220 get it, can we get the digital? We're like, no, because we never 1078 01:04:36,220 --> 01:04:40,060 did a digital, you know? And then we found it on the 1079 01:04:40,060 --> 01:04:41,620 trove rip. When? 1080 01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:45,180 The trove was. Still around When the trove was 1081 01:04:45,180 --> 01:04:49,100 still around, someone actually took CCC and and actually 1082 01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:53,020 scanned it because you could see the scanned lines. 1083 01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:56,620 On the page because this was like Azine like that literally 1084 01:04:56,620 --> 01:05:00,100 like it was black and white and I would take it when we when I'd 1085 01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:04,380 go to a show I'd go to like Gary Con I'd fly in and Doug and I 1086 01:05:04,380 --> 01:05:07,580 would go to the FedEx Kinko's or whatever and we would print it. 1087 01:05:07,580 --> 01:05:10,620 We would just print it off with whatever cheap card stock they 1088 01:05:10,620 --> 01:05:12,700 had for sale in their like clearance bin. 1089 01:05:12,940 --> 01:05:15,660 And so, like, some colors are bright orange and some colors 1090 01:05:15,660 --> 01:05:18,620 are this like drab Gray, brown, slate shit. 1091 01:05:18,860 --> 01:05:21,620 And all the interiors are black, like and it's and it's it's, 1092 01:05:21,660 --> 01:05:26,060 it's just, it's just. It's dumb silliness, but they 1093 01:05:26,060 --> 01:05:29,940 exist. And I too have like, there's a 1094 01:05:30,460 --> 01:05:36,380 there's an entire section of of of alienism up there, which is 1095 01:05:36,380 --> 01:05:38,380 this. Yeah. 1096 01:05:38,380 --> 01:05:40,700 Anyway, Alienism, look it up. Maybe you'll find it. 1097 01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:42,180 I don't know. We don't talk about it. 1098 01:05:42,180 --> 01:05:44,980 But whatever. I've got, I've got all. 1099 01:05:45,340 --> 01:05:48,540 All of those, like, anyway, like, you know, just random 1100 01:05:48,540 --> 01:05:52,460 subversive literature that I found someone's mailing address 1101 01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:55,180 and they were like, do you want these? 1102 01:05:55,180 --> 01:05:58,740 And I was like, yes, I do. And you know, I literally wrote 1103 01:05:58,740 --> 01:06:01,780 a letter to a person and they sent me this box of random shit 1104 01:06:02,180 --> 01:06:04,180 and it's great. When people come over to the 1105 01:06:04,180 --> 01:06:06,460 house, I can pull it out and be like, look at this, what does 1106 01:06:06,460 --> 01:06:10,660 this mean? And it makes me happy to hear 1107 01:06:10,660 --> 01:06:16,700 you say that about Beans RPG. Like, I think I even tweeted 1108 01:06:16,700 --> 01:06:19,060 about it before where I literally was just like, this is 1109 01:06:19,060 --> 01:06:22,940 like the weirdest, greatest thing ever. 1110 01:06:22,980 --> 01:06:27,940 And I'm not sure whether it's like absolute genius or like 1111 01:06:28,660 --> 01:06:31,980 just absolute psychopathy, and I'm sure it's a mix of both, but 1112 01:06:31,980 --> 01:06:34,140 it's it's just absolutely so good. 1113 01:06:47,460 --> 01:06:36,380 Shopping as hell, yeah. So just I I love that one. 1114 01:06:36,380 --> 01:06:39,900 I know that Neon Rot put out one that reminds me of it a little 1115 01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:41,020 bit. I'd have to find it to get the 1116 01:06:41,020 --> 01:06:42,780 exact name. But where it's just like every 1117 01:06:42,780 --> 01:06:44,900 time you turn the page you're just like, what is even going 1118 01:06:44,900 --> 01:06:46,580 on? Like, is this even a real game 1119 01:06:46,580 --> 01:06:50,340 or? I think that's. 1120 01:06:50,460 --> 01:06:52,660 I think that's the one that that Neon did. 1121 01:06:52,700 --> 01:06:58,780 Yeah, yeah, but but yeah man, super excited. 1122 01:06:58,780 --> 01:07:00,740 What's coming up? I mean, so I know that, you 1123 01:07:00,740 --> 01:07:03,020 know, EF does a lot of huge Kickstarters and stuff. 1124 01:07:03,020 --> 01:07:04,700 Now you said you're going to wait a year to do any 1125 01:07:04,700 --> 01:07:07,140 crowdfunding projects. I know you have like a five year 1126 01:07:07,180 --> 01:07:11,540 plan. Yeah, we're we're, we're waiting 1127 01:07:11,540 --> 01:07:16,220 and holding off now. I've been a lot of the second 1128 01:07:16,220 --> 01:07:18,500 wave, you know, next wave stuff like things are going to start 1129 01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:22,020 to trickle in and we're going to be putting stuff out here and 1130 01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:25,400 there. There are I had a meeting 1131 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,680 yesterday with some with some folks and some really good stuff 1132 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:34,040 and then had a meeting today with another large one there. 1133 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:40,920 So there are like there are candidates for for that but 1134 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:47,040 again it it's the the biggest thing our biggest desire is to 1135 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,680 to not. To not feel the pressure of 1136 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:57,320 backers over our shoulder. You know, like I have never run 1137 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:01,280 my own Kickstarter, but I have worked at companies that have 1138 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:06,160 and I have been on like, I think I've been inside 3738 1139 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,720 Kickstarters. Like, I I can do without that 1140 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,080 pressure. You know I can. 1141 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,680 I I can. I know I I do understand the. 1142 01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:20,390 The marketplace I'm I'm learning a lot about the business and and 1143 01:08:20,790 --> 01:08:23,470 here and here's the the the thing with with the business 1144 01:08:23,470 --> 01:08:29,029 side of things is you can recognize that it is just 1145 01:08:29,029 --> 01:08:33,029 business and do part of it. You know like you can be the the 1146 01:08:33,029 --> 01:08:37,029 filthy capitalists. You can recognize the business 1147 01:08:37,029 --> 01:08:41,910 and you can choose to not play in certain parts of that, but 1148 01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:45,350 that doesn't mean that it's. Going to go away like those 1149 01:08:45,430 --> 01:08:51,870 those parts are still going to be there like yeah I I don't I 1150 01:08:51,870 --> 01:08:56,630 don't like the doing a crowd fund just not even pretty kick 1151 01:08:56,630 --> 01:09:01,270 started just a crowd fund on any spot when you do that you're 1152 01:09:01,430 --> 01:09:05,990 there will be certain folks certain Packers that are just 1153 01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:09,990 like they just go too far you know and then they you know 1154 01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:11,750 they. I get it. 1155 01:09:11,750 --> 01:09:14,630 Everyone has a different version of of the world we live in and 1156 01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:17,029 and being exposed to that does suck. 1157 01:09:17,069 --> 01:09:20,870 But for us, for for that first bit, while we're still figuring 1158 01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:25,109 all the little nooks and crannies out, minimizing that 1159 01:09:25,109 --> 01:09:28,710 level of distraction. Because I take things very, very 1160 01:09:28,710 --> 01:09:31,069 seriously when things don't go right. 1161 01:09:31,550 --> 01:09:35,580 Because I want everybody to be. Very, very, very happy with the 1162 01:09:35,580 --> 01:09:37,899 stuff that they get if they're spending their money. 1163 01:09:37,899 --> 01:09:41,779 Also because I as a consumer like to be very happy with the 1164 01:09:41,779 --> 01:09:47,020 stuff that I get. That being said, I do understand 1165 01:09:47,020 --> 01:09:49,740 like I have a I don't know if I talked last time I was on about 1166 01:09:49,740 --> 01:09:54,100 my board game that I'm working on to kill the wizard. 1167 01:09:55,450 --> 01:09:56,210 Can't wait. You kill him. 1168 01:09:56,650 --> 01:09:59,890 Kill the wizard. Kill the wizard that is actually 1169 01:10:00,250 --> 01:10:03,610 need to check in and see if that prototype of that boards 1170 01:10:03,610 --> 01:10:07,370 arriving this week and then try to take the board with me and on 1171 01:10:07,370 --> 01:10:10,170 travels and do some testing and stuff like that. 1172 01:10:10,450 --> 01:10:15,650 That one is rounding the corner. So that one might start getting 1173 01:10:15,650 --> 01:10:20,570 the the pre, the, the kicks, you know crowd fun Kickstarter. 1174 01:10:20,570 --> 01:10:22,810 Like who are we going to do it? Are we going to do it? 1175 01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:33,160 Yeah, that one. Well, for board games. 1176 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:30,160 I definitely want to do that because crowdfunding in general 1177 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:36,000 works. Here's the thing with ours 1178 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,920 though, is ours are going to be way straight back. 1179 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,120 We're going to be the Kickstarters that nobody likes, 1180 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,640 Like, oh, you don't get any extra stuff, Well, that's okay. 1181 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,600 You're getting a quality product. 1182 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,840 You know, like our dream is to be able to print. 1183 01:10:51,370 --> 01:10:54,370 More than the minimum copies of this because we'd like other 1184 01:10:54,370 --> 01:11:00,650 folks, not just the backers, to be able to have them, and 1185 01:11:00,650 --> 01:11:04,850 worldwide logistics make the actual manufacturer of things 1186 01:11:04,930 --> 01:11:09,210 very difficult. And also when y'all see the 1187 01:11:09,210 --> 01:11:12,810 cover, you're going to be like, fuck yeah, so I need to. 1188 01:11:13,410 --> 01:11:16,730 I need to give me 3. I need to speak. 1189 01:11:17,330 --> 01:11:20,090 I need to just need to say a couple words here so that. 1190 01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:24,020 Christian Kessler knows that I am in fact, speaking on the 1191 01:11:24,020 --> 01:11:27,340 podcast. That's it. 1192 01:11:27,820 --> 01:11:32,140 We can continue now. Yes, they are. 1193 01:11:32,140 --> 01:11:34,980 President is not a video. Kirby is here with us. 1194 01:11:37,260 --> 01:11:43,490 But no just just just just twitch chat chat. 1195 01:11:44,610 --> 01:11:46,850 Well, no. Christian was just trolling me 1196 01:11:46,850 --> 01:11:50,610 in the in the work server. He's like, did Kirby already 1197 01:11:50,610 --> 01:11:52,610 have their turn to speak? Because I haven't heard this. 1198 01:11:53,250 --> 01:11:55,370 I don't know, Keep. It in play, you know, we only 1199 01:11:55,370 --> 01:11:57,650 have Kirby around, just as a wallflower, you know. 1200 01:11:57,650 --> 01:12:00,610 There. You go CK is also probably tired 1201 01:12:00,610 --> 01:12:04,650 of hearing me talk because he's had to hear me talk for like 11 1202 01:12:04,650 --> 01:12:08,250 years almost. Yeah, 10 years. 1203 01:12:08,690 --> 01:12:10,090 Sorry buddy. Sorry, I never. 1204 01:12:10,130 --> 01:12:14,130 Get tired of hearing you. Talk, but yeah, it's so. 1205 01:12:14,130 --> 01:12:16,250 So do you think the do you think the board game is going to be a 1206 01:12:16,410 --> 01:12:18,330 a crowd fun project or do you think that's going to be 1207 01:12:18,330 --> 01:12:19,250 something that just comes up in the? 1208 01:12:19,610 --> 01:12:25,290 Shop we're we're we're still 5050 with how that goes because 1209 01:12:26,410 --> 01:12:30,730 this is this talk, real talk when you are pricing out your 1210 01:12:30,970 --> 01:12:34,490 board game components. Books are a books are their own 1211 01:12:34,730 --> 01:12:37,090 bit to do. But it's. 1212 01:12:37,930 --> 01:12:42,290 It's less intensive in my experience to do things like 1213 01:12:42,490 --> 01:12:45,810 zines and perfect. You know, stable bound, you 1214 01:12:45,850 --> 01:12:50,130 know, saddle, stitched zines, perfect bound zines, books, 1215 01:12:50,130 --> 01:12:52,530 magazines, hardcovers, stuff like that. 1216 01:12:53,770 --> 01:12:57,410 It's I have more experience, but doing that, not that I don't 1217 01:12:57,410 --> 01:13:00,850 have experience, you know, doing stuff that's component heavy, 1218 01:13:01,210 --> 01:13:06,140 but with a board game. If when you're looking at the, 1219 01:13:06,540 --> 01:13:10,460 the number of units that you need to make versus the cost per 1220 01:13:10,460 --> 01:13:16,540 unit versus, are you going to have any left over to actually 1221 01:13:16,700 --> 01:13:21,380 put out there? I think we talked a little bit 1222 01:13:21,380 --> 01:13:25,820 about it, Fairox, the board game. 1223 01:13:28,210 --> 01:13:29,970 Yes. No, I think we did. 1224 01:13:30,330 --> 01:13:32,770 We talked about a bunch of stuff last episode you were on. 1225 01:13:33,490 --> 01:13:37,970 Yeah and and so they did the the the gang who did that the the 1226 01:13:37,970 --> 01:13:41,330 fair acts they they did a a small run and I think they you 1227 01:13:41,330 --> 01:13:45,890 know maybe like 204 hundred whatever and they and they put 1228 01:13:45,890 --> 01:13:49,130 it's it's an it's an ode to cannibal fair acts Cannibal 1229 01:13:49,130 --> 01:13:54,650 Holocaust anyway fun fun little fun little board game. 1230 01:13:56,250 --> 01:13:57,750 Great movie. Yeah. 1231 01:13:57,830 --> 01:14:03,270 Oh yeah, it's classic. But you but so they they did a 1232 01:14:03,270 --> 01:14:06,990 run of them and then there was a lot of demand. 1233 01:14:06,990 --> 01:14:11,750 So it they did a second run, but then they were just like that 1234 01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:14,070 that that's all we can do because it is financially 1235 01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:17,470 expensive it to, you know create board games and things that have 1236 01:14:17,470 --> 01:14:19,790 a lot of components. And so the real trick is, that's 1237 01:14:19,790 --> 01:14:22,110 my long way of saying. The real trick is with board 1238 01:14:22,110 --> 01:14:24,790 games. You want to hit a high number on 1239 01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:27,230 that first print run you want to hit. 1240 01:14:27,710 --> 01:14:32,710 Like 2000 copies, maybe 5000 copies. 1241 01:14:32,710 --> 01:14:36,870 Again it depends on the cost per unit and you know you're what 1242 01:14:36,870 --> 01:14:40,750 you're spending with marketing and and you know and promo and 1243 01:14:40,750 --> 01:14:44,510 all that stuff and the and how much you want to make back on 1244 01:14:44,510 --> 01:14:47,790 it. Like a lot of our stuff, well, 1245 01:14:47,790 --> 01:14:51,150 like most of the stuff with Space Penguin Inc, it's it's 1246 01:14:51,150 --> 01:14:53,990 it's partnership all the way down so. 1247 01:14:54,580 --> 01:14:56,980 Today, Speaking of an ink or sorry, kill, the Wizard 1248 01:14:56,980 --> 01:15:01,220 currently has six people and that and we're each getting a 1249 01:15:01,860 --> 01:15:04,700 percentage, we're getting an equal share. 1250 01:15:05,220 --> 01:15:07,580 It's a it's a fucking dungeon party, you know. 1251 01:15:07,580 --> 01:15:10,420 We're each getting an equal share of the profit for this. 1252 01:15:10,700 --> 01:15:15,820 You know, because you know Doug is doing the cover, and Doug's 1253 01:15:15,940 --> 01:15:19,380 cover will carry a lot of the weight of this. 1254 01:15:19,420 --> 01:15:21,660 I understand that. The other folks doing and 1255 01:15:21,660 --> 01:15:27,000 understand as well I'm doing. The writing, you know, Andrew 1256 01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:30,320 and David came here and we worked on the writing of the 1257 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,200 game and they both had a lot to add into it. 1258 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,400 Andrew's doing the math and cartography, Luke's making my 1259 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:42,320 writing not suck and Eric is doing like the design and layout 1260 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,440 and stuff like that. So there's there are people 1261 01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:48,040 involved and and so we want to make sure that we're getting 1262 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:52,480 some money back. Off this too so the goal is you 1263 01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:55,360 know with that was specifically with the board game Kickstarter 1264 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:59,320 is to is to hit the funds where you when you do that initial 1265 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:03,520 purchase from your manufacturer you're hitting a really nice big 1266 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:08,570 number and. I've done a little bit of 1267 01:16:08,570 --> 01:16:12,210 research here and there and that that 5000 mark is kind of like 1268 01:16:12,210 --> 01:16:15,610 the sweet spot where you you really need to hit minimally to 1269 01:16:15,610 --> 01:16:18,250 hit that. So it's relevant to some things 1270 01:16:18,250 --> 01:16:22,410 that Kirby and I are talking about too, you know, Right. 1271 01:16:24,610 --> 01:16:28,930 Yeah. So yeah, it's it's it. 1272 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,720 I'm currently, currently, yes, it will go to some sort of 1273 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,720 crowdfund whether then it's Kickstarter or game found or 1274 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,280 crowdfunding going back or kid or Crowdfunder or whatever, you 1275 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:45,720 know, we're not there yet. But yeah, because I think it it 1276 01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:50,360 just it's it's it's it's a larger marketplace. 1277 01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:53,120 You know, crowdfunding in general is a large marketplace 1278 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,840 for board games like I go to Gencon. 1279 01:16:57,210 --> 01:16:59,010 Every year. Not not this year, but usually 1280 01:16:59,010 --> 01:17:01,930 every year. And I go to spend time in board 1281 01:17:01,930 --> 01:17:04,930 game land, because that's what I enjoy playing, because I'm in, 1282 01:17:05,090 --> 01:17:07,570 I'm in RPG land all day every day, right? 1283 01:17:07,570 --> 01:17:10,810 But I go and I leave the board game and I just and I wander 1284 01:17:10,810 --> 01:17:13,210 around and I and I look at people's boxes. 1285 01:17:14,530 --> 01:17:18,210 Hunter, you recommended Volcanic Bird in Me and The Voice 1286 01:17:18,210 --> 01:17:22,000 Concern. I found that and I am in love 1287 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,280 with it. It is so much fucking nonsense. 1288 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:29,040 Yeah, total nonsense. You have now entered. 1289 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,320 Yeah, I love it. You have now entered the Duck 1290 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:38,290 Cube phase like. And this is for those, for those 1291 01:17:38,290 --> 01:17:41,610 who don't know, the duck cube is an opaque white D6. 1292 01:17:41,690 --> 01:17:43,650 And that's it. And you just part of the rules 1293 01:17:43,650 --> 01:17:46,930 are you hold it out and you put it out there and you say, I am 1294 01:17:46,930 --> 01:17:50,490 now entering the duck cube phase and then you and that's it. 1295 01:17:50,690 --> 01:17:53,890 That's it, right? It's, it's a little ugly, man. 1296 01:17:54,170 --> 01:17:56,370 Makes games like. I make games like. 1297 01:17:58,650 --> 01:18:01,610 Yeah, he's definitely like a weirdo artist in the best way. 1298 01:18:01,810 --> 01:18:04,880 Possible. I fucking love it. 1299 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,440 But that's that's the sort of thing like I I want every, I 1300 01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:11,680 want the I want it to be you know artifact you like that. 1301 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,520 Like I, you know it's like like the the stuff that Justin does 1302 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,760 with Severed. You know, like it's it's it's 1303 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,720 artifacty. Like it's it has a reason to 1304 01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,160 exist other than just being another thing that you buy and 1305 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,800 you and you put out. Like, by July, Miss Cube 1306 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,640 checkers over here. Like. 1307 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,440 They're just so cool. Like, although you have a, did 1308 01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:37,800 you get a bunch of little ones? Yeah, no, He gave me the when I 1309 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,840 was at the The Baltimore show with him. 1310 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:42,320 Let me see if I can get it out of my. 1311 01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,400 Face Here. Oh, here we go. 1312 01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,880 I lost one, but he gave me the gelatinous cube checkers and I 1313 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,080 got the green and red. Cubes and the. 1314 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,160 Checkerboard like, I mean, I'm probably I'll play checkers 1315 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,680 probably with this at some point but it's just like such a cool. 1316 01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:02,010 Thing to have you know yeah I got the the giant Gillette in 1317 01:19:02,010 --> 01:19:05,210 this cube but only I mean you can't really see it because it's 1318 01:19:05,210 --> 01:19:07,890 blurred and it's it's clear but it's sitting back there it 1319 01:19:07,890 --> 01:19:09,130 doesn't does some some great stuff. 1320 01:19:09,530 --> 01:19:13,610 I thought I missed out on the the first cave Evil board game 1321 01:19:13,610 --> 01:19:23,370 but but yeah so so yeah that this is 2 weeks after the launch 1322 01:19:23,370 --> 01:19:26,690 of space Penguin right. And we're moving in all the 1323 01:19:26,690 --> 01:19:30,010 right directions. I mean I can't wait for for all 1324 01:19:30,010 --> 01:19:32,290 the stuff that's coming out. I mean Vulture is already on the 1325 01:19:32,290 --> 01:19:34,650 way. Red Solstice is on the way. 1326 01:19:34,770 --> 01:19:36,770 Another version of dress. So I'll have 4 copies of 1327 01:19:36,770 --> 01:19:39,890 Dreadnite which would be fantastic like a proof copy. 1328 01:19:39,890 --> 01:19:43,090 Let's Outback copy the black cover like that burnt orange 1329 01:19:43,090 --> 01:19:45,010 cover. Can't get enough Dreadnite. 1330 01:19:45,290 --> 01:19:46,530 Everything that that is going on. 1331 01:19:46,530 --> 01:19:49,110 Forbidden Psalm so and we promise there. 1332 01:19:49,270 --> 01:19:53,110 Won't and we promise there won't be any other covers of that 1333 01:19:53,110 --> 01:19:57,990 because we did order a lot of copies of the red cover and then 1334 01:19:57,990 --> 01:20:04,910 the and more of the soft cover. So yeah like it's and that's 1335 01:20:04,910 --> 01:20:07,990 something like we kind of went back and forth with when and 1336 01:20:07,990 --> 01:20:10,230 Will was like I don't know I think a black cover would be 1337 01:20:10,230 --> 01:20:11,230 cool. Let's just do it. 1338 01:20:11,230 --> 01:20:14,070 You know what I'm saying? We we didn't do it in a way of 1339 01:20:14,070 --> 01:20:16,990 like. To create artificial scarcity 1340 01:20:16,990 --> 01:20:18,510 like it was going to be snapped up. 1341 01:20:18,510 --> 01:20:21,070 We still have. I looked at the numbers today. 1342 01:20:21,070 --> 01:20:24,790 We still have half of the the black covers. 1343 01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:28,430 Like they're still available. It's not like we're like coming 1344 01:20:28,430 --> 01:20:30,990 out and doing that like I because that's the thing that I 1345 01:20:30,990 --> 01:20:33,830 just said, yeah, there it is. Because that's the thing that 1346 01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:39,110 like I come gets me to, you know, collecting for, you know, 1347 01:20:39,110 --> 01:20:41,390 making stuff like that. I also do understand why people 1348 01:20:41,390 --> 01:20:45,500 do it, but like for us we're just like, Oh no, a black cover 1349 01:20:45,500 --> 01:20:48,300 with a white skull would be really fucking cool, you know, 1350 01:20:49,540 --> 01:20:54,660 That's that is the thing though with a a lot of the rest of the 1351 01:20:54,860 --> 01:20:59,860 stuff that we put out there won't be like limited time only 1352 01:20:59,860 --> 01:21:03,180 or or you know, smaller, smaller, really smaller 1353 01:21:03,180 --> 01:21:05,380 quantities like that. Like we want to do things in 1354 01:21:05,620 --> 01:21:08,020 large enough quantities so our stuff is out there because we 1355 01:21:08,020 --> 01:21:12,750 want people to have it and also if we can purchase those from 1356 01:21:12,750 --> 01:21:15,950 our manufacturers and large enough quantities it makes it 1357 01:21:15,950 --> 01:21:20,190 easier for us to do things like show specials. 1358 01:21:20,230 --> 01:21:25,950 Like one of one of the most fun things that I that I get to do 1359 01:21:25,950 --> 01:21:29,510 in part of life is go to conventions and go to shows. 1360 01:21:30,590 --> 01:21:34,830 And one of the most fun things about going to show is going to 1361 01:21:34,830 --> 01:21:40,270 the scratch and dent table and getting a book for like almost 1362 01:21:40,270 --> 01:21:42,870 zero. Like some of those white soft 1363 01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:47,230 covers for Dread Nights. They're pretty flimsy, like 1364 01:21:47,230 --> 01:21:50,630 they're white soft cover books. They get bent up and stuff, you 1365 01:21:50,630 --> 01:21:54,030 know, get little tweaky corners. I got like a box of like 15 or 1366 01:21:54,030 --> 01:21:57,350 20 of them that we're going to take to the first convention 1367 01:21:57,350 --> 01:22:01,830 that we're attending at the end of September, Questcon Orlando. 1368 01:22:02,330 --> 01:22:04,850 And we're going to make the we're going to put four of those 1369 01:22:04,850 --> 01:22:08,090 books together and we're going to be like players pack you know 1370 01:22:08,090 --> 01:22:09,610 whatever. And we're going to we're just 1371 01:22:09,610 --> 01:22:11,890 we're we're to blow them because they're scratching dents. 1372 01:22:12,370 --> 01:22:16,250 It's not stuff we would normally like regularly retail and we 1373 01:22:16,250 --> 01:22:20,530 just want it to be available for folks come up you know someone 1374 01:22:20,850 --> 01:22:24,730 someone comes up and say oh man, I'd like that but I don't have 1375 01:22:24,730 --> 01:22:25,770 30 bucks. Cool. 1376 01:22:25,770 --> 01:22:28,530 You got you got a tenor. Grab this. 1377 01:22:28,530 --> 01:22:30,930 You know what I'm saying? Like you'll love it. 1378 01:22:31,050 --> 01:22:32,610 You want 2 copies? Take it. 1379 01:22:32,610 --> 01:22:36,970 Like I I don't know, I I like, I like stuff. 1380 01:22:37,010 --> 01:22:39,330 I like giving stuff. I like giving stuff. 1381 01:22:39,530 --> 01:22:44,520 So super excited about that. One of the things I do love 1382 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,440 about the hardback too is so this is the the regular softback 1383 01:22:48,440 --> 01:22:50,520 for those that that haven't seen it yet. 1384 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,080 All white Black skull says Dreadnites on the front. 1385 01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,040 You know, has the animal skull on the back, all that. 1386 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,120 I love that. Although this is an alternate 1387 01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,760 cover and it's got like I want to believe to believe in things 1388 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,120 you cannot dread not sound the back. 1389 01:23:02,440 --> 01:23:07,560 The actual cover front and back are like the in pages in the 1390 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,160 book which I think is absolutely gorgeous. 1391 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:14,050 I love getting. Like all of the bars, even the 1392 01:23:14,050 --> 01:23:18,130 market bark, the entire, the entire book is just stuck until 1393 01:23:18,130 --> 01:23:19,450 like the hardback pitch is really. 1394 01:23:19,450 --> 01:23:20,890 I love that. I think it's absolutely 1395 01:23:20,890 --> 01:23:22,650 fantastic. It just like I said, it feels 1396 01:23:22,650 --> 01:23:24,690 like someone just like wrapped a hardcover around one of these 1397 01:23:24,690 --> 01:23:26,210 and it's really, really neat. So this. 1398 01:23:26,250 --> 01:23:29,210 Uploaded that 4 pages to the cover section of Mix them. 1399 01:23:30,050 --> 01:23:31,330 I mean, I don't know what you talk about. 1400 01:23:31,810 --> 01:23:35,050 Yes, that is a. That is exactly how Will did it 1401 01:23:35,050 --> 01:23:39,500 the first time that he did FP before he brought it to, brought 1402 01:23:39,500 --> 01:23:43,980 it over to you know and we've just kind of stuck with that 1403 01:23:43,980 --> 01:23:46,500 through all the other books there. 1404 01:23:46,500 --> 01:23:52,940 Now now with us like it's just it's one of those when when we 1405 01:23:52,940 --> 01:23:56,940 worked with our printers for the big for the red cover in the 1406 01:23:56,940 --> 01:24:00,940 larger order of the the soft covers, they were like, wait, 1407 01:24:01,060 --> 01:24:03,900 Are you sure? Because that's just not a normal 1408 01:24:03,900 --> 01:24:05,300 thing. You know, normally if there's a 1409 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,880 hard cover then there's a it's a different cover in there. 1410 01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,280 You know page counts are and we're just like no, we're we 1411 01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,000 we're lazy. We want it to be as easy as 1412 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,320 possible. We just want you to like exactly 1413 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,240 like you said, put a hard cover over the outside of it, so. 1414 01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,360 I think it's great. I love it. 1415 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,640 I love that you get both covers in one book. 1416 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,440 Like if there was a book that had like 3 variant covers, I 1417 01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:30,160 would want to just be wrapped around and sent all three times 1418 01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,440 every cover. Yeah, so, but yeah. 1419 01:24:34,900 --> 01:24:36,340 Like, like I said, super excited for that. 1420 01:24:36,340 --> 01:24:39,460 I mean, Jared, it's always great to have you here on the show to 1421 01:24:39,460 --> 01:24:41,540 talk about everything going on with Space Penguin. 1422 01:24:41,540 --> 01:24:44,580 I mean, I'm super excited that two weeks has passed Space 1423 01:24:44,580 --> 01:24:48,260 Penguin is up and running the newsletter. 1424 01:24:48,260 --> 01:24:50,500 Are we talking is, are we settling on a day? 1425 01:24:50,500 --> 01:24:52,700 Is it going to be Thursdays? Like, what's going on? 1426 01:24:53,420 --> 01:24:58,500 I'm not, I'm not sure like this week we'll probably now now if 1427 01:24:58,620 --> 01:25:01,500 if if you have summer sales Wednesday, we got to do ours on 1428 01:25:01,500 --> 01:25:03,420 Tuesday. No, it's fine. 1429 01:25:04,820 --> 01:25:09,140 Also, I think we actually might do Saturdays. 1430 01:25:09,900 --> 01:25:14,100 And my reasoning there was it's actually a convenient day for me 1431 01:25:14,380 --> 01:25:18,900 because I wake up on Saturdays and I'm just less stressed about 1432 01:25:18,900 --> 01:25:21,860 stuff because I'm not like read up and doing stuff. 1433 01:25:22,060 --> 01:25:24,940 You know, like the world of work is Monday through Friday, and 1434 01:25:24,940 --> 01:25:26,820 there's a lot of, there's a lot of folks. 1435 01:25:26,820 --> 01:25:30,780 I can only get to Monday through Friday, whereas none of those 1436 01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:32,460 folks are going to be in their office on Saturday. 1437 01:25:32,460 --> 01:25:35,100 So I'm a little, you know, a little less wonky. 1438 01:25:35,300 --> 01:25:39,340 It's not a real day. So, you know, there's that and 1439 01:25:39,340 --> 01:25:45,180 it is kind of nice, like there are a few places that you know 1440 01:25:45,180 --> 01:25:48,100 that I subscribe to their newsletter. 1441 01:25:48,500 --> 01:25:53,020 Healy made puts out a lot of his custom toys and stuff like that, 1442 01:25:53,020 --> 01:25:56,020 but on his new releases are on Saturdays. 1443 01:25:58,180 --> 01:26:00,900 Enter Decay does stuff. Dano Brown does stuff. 1444 01:26:00,900 --> 01:26:04,460 You know, a lot of the people that I subscribe to put their 1445 01:26:04,460 --> 01:26:07,260 stuff out on Saturday. So yeah, I think for for the 1446 01:26:07,260 --> 01:26:09,420 next couple of weeks we're going to go on Saturday because that 1447 01:26:09,420 --> 01:26:13,620 also just makes me less stressed and like I could just do it 1448 01:26:13,620 --> 01:26:16,680 then, so. There we go. 1449 01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,960 Looking forward to Saturdays. Now I know I I usually have my 1450 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,920 e-mail at 0, but like twice a year it's like 150. 1451 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,440 So I got a lot of stuff that I need to download and get out. 1452 01:26:26,440 --> 01:26:29,400 So I might have been a little bit late on Vulture, but excited 1453 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,800 for what's dropping next. Can't wait for Solstice 3, which 1454 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,160 is dropping. Can't wait for a Drift 2 Kirby 1455 01:26:37,480 --> 01:26:40,080 and then we'll see what what comes next from the Space Bank. 1456 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,240 Knows it just gets bigger and better as we continue to go 1457 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,600 through stuff. So you're. 1458 01:26:44,030 --> 01:26:45,390 Thank you again so much for being here. 1459 01:26:45,390 --> 01:26:48,030 You're always literally anytime. You should be discarded. 1460 01:26:48,110 --> 01:26:49,190 It's like, hey, want to chat again? 1461 01:26:49,190 --> 01:26:51,590 It's like fuck, yeah. Then I send it to Hunter and 1462 01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:53,310 Hunters. Like fuck yeah, we're doing it. 1463 01:26:53,630 --> 01:26:56,430 So always, always super excited to have you on. 1464 01:26:56,430 --> 01:27:00,110 Yeah, absolutely. Any closing remarks? 1465 01:27:00,110 --> 01:27:01,230 Space Penguin? Kirby. 1466 01:27:01,230 --> 01:27:02,630 I know you've been a little bit chatty. 1467 01:27:02,630 --> 01:27:04,870 Good night. Anything that you wanted to to 1468 01:27:04,870 --> 01:27:11,760 say here? Yeah, I will say this 2 words. 1469 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,040 Alter Shock. That's all. 1470 01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:15,560 That's all. That's all you got to know. 1471 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,160 That's all you got to know. What? 1472 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,520 You don't know anything about Alter Shock. 1473 01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:24,440 I got. I got no idea. 1474 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,880 I'm excited to read it. I'm excited to read it during 1475 01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:29,680 travels. Like, super excited to read it 1476 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,600 during travels. Finally, Kerbs has been like, 1477 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,480 hey, hey, hey. I'm like, I know no time. 1478 01:27:39,090 --> 01:27:40,890 Yeah, I got to get you those pages, baby. 1479 01:27:41,610 --> 01:27:43,810 Hey, listen, sounds like you got to give a lot of pages, but do 1480 01:27:43,810 --> 01:27:46,890 it so we can get your stuff. Yeah, so that is your episode 1481 01:27:46,890 --> 01:27:48,570 for tonight. Again, Jared, you're great. 1482 01:27:49,090 --> 01:27:52,130 Also, the three of us is nice to have all three of us at the same 1483 01:27:52,130 --> 01:27:55,330 time to prove that Kirby and Hunter are not just Jekyll and 1484 01:27:55,330 --> 01:27:57,090 Hyde and are the same. Not. 1485 01:27:57,130 --> 01:28:00,130 The same exactly pressing that we are in fact actually just 1486 01:28:00,130 --> 01:28:02,570 Jekyll and Hyde and this. Is prerecorded. 1487 01:28:02,850 --> 01:28:06,170 Yeah, yeah, cool. So thank you everyone in chat 1488 01:28:06,170 --> 01:28:07,530 for being here, everyone just listening. 1489 01:28:07,530 --> 01:28:12,130 And make sure you go to Space Penguin dot, Inc and snatch up 1490 01:28:12,130 --> 01:28:15,330 all that stuff and get that newsletter in your e-mail every 1491 01:28:15,330 --> 01:28:19,250 Saturday going forward from now and you all have a wonderful 1492 01:28:19,250 --> 01:28:19,610 evening.