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Hello, and welcome to the 
weekly. 

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Scroll podcast brought to you by
the adventure. 

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Archive, my name is Ryan and I'm
Lemay CI. 

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It's mint and mountain sage. 
There we go, mint and se-joo our

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Sage Hunter. 
And with us, we have a very 

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special guest. 
Anyone watching those absolutely

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who this is, this is jerk. 
How are you doing today? 

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Dirt? 
Well, how are you guys just do? 

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Unbelievably good. 
I can't even describe her full. 

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Very excited. 
Stoked. 

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For this. 
So, so for those, that might not

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know who you, who the heck are 
you? 

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Who is whose jerk? 
So I'm jerk Jerry and I douche 

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back into production work on a 
lot of tabletop, role-playing 

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games, and board games, and 
other games and stuff like that.

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And have been for this is my 
10th year and working in games. 

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And it paid capacity, that 
doesn't mean I've always made 

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all my money doing that only 
recently and yeah, I make a lot 

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of games and I'm here to talk 
about my new companies based 

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penguin ink. 
Very cool. 

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So yeah. 
So so so let's just wait a 

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minute. 
Now listen, I was going to 

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forget and idea said to remind 
me and I forgot, but I have a 

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Post-It note, because that's how
we do things here. 

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We have, what do we, what do we?
What do we got going on? 

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For, for this, we got a giveaway
happening. 

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So, what's going on with that 
before we get going anything 

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else? 
Let's get that good. 

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Yeah, you're right. 
So, I prayed preprint a proof 

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happy of forbidden song dread 
nights. 

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And this was one of the copies 
it's got a bit of dent in it but

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it's okay to give away. 
This is one of the copies I 

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printed to take with me to Gary 
Cohn 2023 back in March and I 

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had a some extras those and then
our first unreleased laundromat,

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we did earlier this year with 
partnership with the Creator's, 

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Thrift am answer and spear which
it was Funny story drift makes 

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really great stuff. 
And I was like, oh yeah, let's 

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just do a thing. 
Some people, probably have some 

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things like violence jam and 
House of Dogg's, and any of the 

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capable spider series, forget 
everything you thought you knew 

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about red robots, you know, 
important stuff like that, beans

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RPG. 
So the bees RPG, it's one of my 

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favorite things ever. 
Yeah. 

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So some people have seen some of
the the the, you know dada. 

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Our type projects just random 
stuff likes people like let's do

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this you know I just got I just 
ordered two more stickers. 

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I was sad and they didn't get 
here in time for the show but 

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they'll I'll put it this way 
their world of Darkness related 

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right. 
So yeah do a lot of weird stuff 

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and Thrift was awesome and was 
just like yes do it and so we 

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parted 100 hardcovers and then I
went in and I hand numbered all 

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of them in the back with silver 
Sharpie, we kept to the few key 

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ones. 
Drift got some Jared, got some, 

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I kept a couple so this is 
number. 

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We kept a cup, we kept key 
numbers, of course, we kept 

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number one. 
Now it's off to the side. 

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We have number 13 because secant
not keep 13. 

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We kept 42. 
And this is number 42. 

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Its silver. 
Sharpie on the inside. 

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We kept a course, 69. 
The nicest number and number 

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100. 
So yeah, I stuck these in with 

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the Secret piles of stuff to 
pull out for random fun, time 

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giveaway. 
So, do we could do two winners? 

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We could do one winner gets both
ask you to Winners and they have

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to fight to the death but still 
it's okay. 

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Absolutely listening, good luck.
So be prepared. 

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Okay, so let me gosh, it's been 
forever since we did a giveaway.

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So I'm just going to come over 
here and click the little 

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button. 
I should be good. 

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So so the way we're doing the 
giveaway is here on the channel,

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you just have to be following 
the channel. 

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So you just hit the follow 
button and then you just have to

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hit exclamation point SPI for 
obviously, if your space pigment

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ink and they will automatically 
enter you into the giveaway. 

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And at the end of the show, we 
will pick two one, one or two 

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winners, fight to the death. 
However, is going to work. 

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Will decide at the end. 
You don't necessarily have to be

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here at the end. 
We'll just throw your name in. 

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The disk or servers or 
something, and someone can reach

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out to me or to jerk. 
And we'll figure out who that is

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and, and that's it. 
So, we'll close it right at the 

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end of the show. 
Guys, don't forget to remind me 

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to actually close it and do the 
giveaway and me now, right? 

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Yeah. 
Let's have three sticky notes. 

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We all three. 
Absolutely, definitely. 

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Forget Chad, don't let us forget
bottom. 

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So, yeah. 
So that's going just hit. 

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That's my point is pay like 
doing and that's where rats 

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Space, Penguin ink. 
That's one of the Obviously, big

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reason why we're here. 
First question I have and I 

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think it's on, everyone's mind 
is why space paying money to 

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spare space pink, and the really
great graphic that's behind 

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hunter that I can see. 
And is possibly scrolling up on 

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the, on the other monitor above 
me, nice. 

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The, the this particular, 
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itty-bitty the Space Penguin 
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She's no longer with us, she 
past three weeks, She was our 

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oldest cat, my partner, Debbie 
and I and I asked her if she 

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wanted to be on the stream and 
she said I don't have enough 

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time to get a suit to sit over 
your shoulder and tell you to 

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not say things, you know, like a
network executive. 

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And I was like in the next 
movie, we'll do it on the 

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anniversary, that'd be great. 
That he's my best friend and the

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reason I'm doing a lot of this 
and it will to do a lot of this 

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stuff. 
We are oldest Kitty it. 

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Pity, she's called the space 
Bing because she's a tuxedo to 

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Gray and a white belly. 
And yeah, just the just a super 

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cool mellow cat, she had one 
little great toe called the 

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greater of Doom and she would 
just poke you and to, at her and

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pet her. 
But she had, she had diabetes 

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and some other stuff going on 
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So, she passed. 
She, we just, we say that she 

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got tired of waiting for us to 
launch this company, which True.

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So yeah, and the Arts on the 
logo, Doug Kovacs is good. 

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Buddy of mine and he came 
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ago and was visiting the house 
and he does that follow Doug's 

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daily cats on Instagram. 
He draws a new cat first warm up

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every day and post them up. 
They're all really, really, 

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really great and he put us on he
drew itty-bitty and I few you 

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know, year or so later it. 
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He's like a Cheshire Cat. 
I was like oh awesome. 

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And so yeah. 
He gave us the art for that. 

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So that's kind of that's that. 
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still a country, so I don't know
if you're watching. 

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She's probably watching the 
actual logo lettering. 

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So yeah, Space Penguin, that's 
it's going to be wonderful and 

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confusing. 
There will be a page on the 

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website that says, why a cat 
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it'll be and stuff like that. 
So, Go. 

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Oh yeah, we're base paying when 
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So here's the thing is we're 
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and tangents and everything 
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So if you're listening, try to 
keep up so taking it back a 

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little bit from Space, Penguin 
all the way back to I you said 

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ten years since you've been 
doing this stuff paid, what was 

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what actually got you? 
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general and then what got you 
into editing and to the point 

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where I right now So I started 
playing magenta box or a low 

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discover BX. 
My uncle taught me how I was the

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oldest of three so he taught me 
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So we could actually have a game
and then played a D&D played 

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riffs. 
Gurps TMNT OS? 

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Those were most of the stuff 
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Small, rural town, and Missouri 
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through college. 
Played a lot, a lot of board 

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games. 
Probably it was out in the 

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wilderness of board games for 20
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Loved RPGs just you know how it 
is like it can't get people 

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together for a game, nobody 
knows and this was years ago and

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then around the time that DCC 
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out friend of mine and co-worker
and Hoover was like he was 

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big-time 33.5. 
He was like I want to run a game

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or is me and my partner at the 
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He wanted to run 4th edition D&D
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So not really any preconceived 
notions and he came over, and he

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started running some For EDD. 
No this is literally like right 

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before 5e so he sunk all this 
money into all these books cheap

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and we played three or four 
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that take hours to play and he 
he did a lot of terrain and 

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minis to suck his great. 
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And he's like, oh I remember 
this different model for you 

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guys next time. 
It's not a for a thing and he 

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pulled out and it was a random 
Goodman games but for 33.5 and 

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so I really like that look that 
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DCC RPG modules in. 
So, did some research found it 

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stumbled into Google+. 
So you'll hear this is a lot 

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from, from the old wise man is. 
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And so I'm fell into that and 
just You know, ended up finding 

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a bunch of folks who you don't 
played, I didn't read my search.

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String was, does anybody play 
basic in D and then I ended up 

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finding that and then just 
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So that was around 2012, I 
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Yeah. 
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about and finding out about a 
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You might have heard of called 
Troika and it was Pre the second

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printing with the really great. 
Jeremy Duncan cover and then 

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just got to look around and 
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One of the first things I did 
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proofing, a bunch of monsters, 
and creatures, and gods and 

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Petty gods in the expanded 
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So like the really, really big 
one with all that stuff and then

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yeah, Badger, dance, salad melt 
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Troika and Fever Swamp. 
Rolled into just kind of meeting

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a bunch of other folks and 
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like, hey, let me get your 
stuff, really your stuff, your 

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stuff, let me know, your stuff. 
I one of those one of those 

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stories that I had a partial 
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College Dropout, never really 
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So yeah just kind of did it and 
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word you guys talking before the
show, you know with Hunter about

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comic stuff, I read a lot of 
comic books, read a lot of books

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and a lot of fiction and just a 
lot of weird, weird, weird stuff

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and love it all. 
And I've always been fascinated,

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thanks to a DD, you know, to 
really pay attention to the 

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words and the way things look. 
And so, yeah, just got wrangled 

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That into doing a lot more stuff
and a lot more stuff and then 

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project managing stuff previous 
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I was a bartender bar manager 
Brewery manager, so the 

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organizational processes and 
stuff, kind of we're all there. 

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And just kept at it and kept at 
it and kept at it. 

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And yeah, Ten Years Later, 
finally, going to do my own 

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thing because all my friends 
tired of hearing me be like, 

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wounds, my return. 
And they're like, how many 

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witnesses? 
I think you're ten years in. 

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You kind of you've earned your 
turn. 

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So yeah, we work on talking 
about comic books beforehand and

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you were talking about like how 
comic books like release and 

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like kind of what you were 
wanting to take from that. 

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And I thought it was really 
interesting and I only caught 

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part of it. 
I'm gonna be really honest with 

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you so I'd love to go over it 
again. 

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Like, what about comic books 
like releases? 

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Are you saying that you were 
willing to adapt to like your 

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own release process? 
Has a lot of it and it's a thing

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that it's not. 
Nothing, it's not new, it's not 

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revolutionary, you know, you 
print a volume or you print an 

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issue and then you collect that 
into a trade and you like that 

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into larger stuff. 
I mean, it's been, it's been 

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happening since since books have
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that I'm really, really 
fascinated with it is James 

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Toney, the fourths work with 
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writes, all kinds of really 
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rated. 
If you haven't everybody out 

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there, And James sub stack 
Empire. 

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The tiny onion is super 
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It's just the way that great 
Nary a juice is that? 

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taking back kind of create our 
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anything new. 
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partnering with each other and 
working with other graders in 

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and I'm seeing more 
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come up. 
Up and really be there. 

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In one of those things is 
Indians published by like every 

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publisher like he's gotten books
with everybody. 

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But he owns a little bit of part
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with back in and he is a writer,
so he's more front end than this

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particular case. 
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the process in the structures 
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it. 
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tiny Union, they release these 
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little chunks like that and then
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like image to do this big 
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painted, beautiful nonsense. 
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It just kind of kind of working 
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means of what I know to do and 
what we can do and what we have 

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the money to do a little bit and
not necessarily limiting. 

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Print runs for scarcity sake, 
just, you know, what the market 

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can Bear right now and then 
trying to keep those things in 

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print and that's, you know, the 
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collected Edition concept and 
stuff like that. 

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I do like that idea. 
A lot like, I like the almost 

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like building block approach and
having like cool here is like, 

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I'm a trade paperback guy. 
Let me tell you, when I buy 

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comics, I have its trade 
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Actor, a bunch of those that 
aren't. 

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But, yeah, I think that's like a
really clever way. 

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They keep engagement and people 
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up and then be like, oh yeah, I 
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and Ryan are, especially, 
especially Ryan is the guy who's

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gonna be like, yeah, I have all 
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there's a, there's a big 
release. 

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Oh, I want big release, you 
know? 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
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certain stuff with my local. 
My fairly local comic book store

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closed at the end of April. 
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online from Things From Another 
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And now I only get my books once
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it's also very weird from not 
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and pick up some random stuff 
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So it's made me not buy stuff 
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been to balance that I'm picking
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there. 
I'm stuff that I wouldn't read. 

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So, yeah, it's also the trick 
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Indie, RPGs and ziens, and 
things like that, going all the 

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way back to like, you know, 
judges Guild stuff and all of 

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that, you know, from the 70s to 
the present. 

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Like, it's hard to get because 
out of print and I don't, I 

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don't, I do like, like the lady.
I've got fun stuff in. 

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In here. 
But I was want to try to keep as

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much as we can in print and I 
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approach to that with that, it's
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put these things together and 
Omnibus editions nature. 

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Mace, what is haunted, Almanac? 
Love that book. 

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You know I'm saying. 
So I've been thinking. 

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Yeah. 
Oh oh no. 

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Oh, I've been paying, you know, 
you're doing anything we're 

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going to talk about he's Have 
he's gonna go, oh yeah, this 

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fucking one right here. 
I see what is good but yet, no. 

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But that was great for that 
because like, I have things like

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mint NZ first, round of the, in 
the light of ghosts are like and

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I love that like super fancy and
then you just some bits and 

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pieces here and there, but there
are a bunch of things from 

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Nate's output that I didn't get 
beat and then to have it all in 

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one volume. 
I think it's super awesome. 

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So and that could be Not just a 
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particular artist, he could be a
particular designer or design, 

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ethos or editorial and stuff 
like that. 

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So I'll say it a lot but I 
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the backend folks like the 
production minions, like we love

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what we do. 
I dearly love editing books like

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I didn't today because took a 
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ones working on for the future -
Apotheca like, Integrates people

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City book and I have chunks of 
time set aside for that, and I 

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just didn't know that was 
yesterday. 

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I was like I'm two days behind. 
Don't tell anybody, I'm don't 

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tell Debbie, I'll she'll fire 
me. 

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But so talk about editing. 
I feel like because we were 

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recently able to do something 
together to play a game 

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together, but we talked a little
bit about editing and you talked

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about, I think there might be a 
rough number four, how many 

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books your name is in that you 
have Edited your do you have any

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idea how many exactly or rough 
estimate? 

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So yeah, we're so with the 
miniscule amount of writing I've

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done and I've actually done some
illustrations for some random 

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things here and there, I'm not 
an artist. 

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It's okay, a lot a lot, a lot of
editing project management 

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playtesting, it's getting close 
to 500. 

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I totaled up and then I'm going 
to be doing Todd world of Mommy.

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Joel. 
Yeah, her arm coming out later 

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this year and I think when they 
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like yeah. 
Just put 500 on. 

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I think I over counted a little 
bit. 

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But yeah, it's a lot and I don't
know. 

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I like it. 
I like there being a lot of it. 

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Means I'm practicing. 
It means I'm getting better, I 

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think anyway, I don't know. 
Maybe somebody will read the 

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sign me. 
If you're doing a little while, 

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at least you're probably not 
getting worse at least, you know

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you never know, right? 
I've hit the bloop here. 

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It's all downhill from here. 
Hey listen. 

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Yeah. 
So I mean and that kind of leads

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us back to, to Space, Penguin 
ink. 

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So this is something you want to
do for a long time. 

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He said this is 10 years and 
it's been a long time. 

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I'm coming when at what point 
did you say like what we're at 

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now, when did that start for 
you? 

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I like at what point in the 
process that we already talked 

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about a little bit, did you 
decide? 

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I want to do something and start
working towards it. 

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And then to get to the point 
that we're at now like three 

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years ago, four years ago, it 
with working with Fiona and 

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Christian with the, our moon r, 
a conspiracy, some of the 

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credits, you'll see the little 
Moon rat or your CMR, see a This

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is behind certain creators names
that came from a stoned 

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conversation between Fiona and 
CK and I where we all maintain 

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that we came up with the name 
Moon rat conspiracy about rats 

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living in the moon and you know 
and all this stuff. 

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So we were just we were just 
kind of like the team the three 

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of us did a lot of books 
together there for about three 

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years. 
I lost a lot of books together 

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and we had thrown around back 
and forth. 

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The concept of doing a full on 
company but then life and jobs 

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and work and everything else and
it just didn't didn't pop and 

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then about a year ago. 
It's just you know, so there's 

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always that it should just kind 
of gets there and stuff like do 

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it do it do it do it do it. 
I will say that I have been 

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going I would have been working 
head down since last November 

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writer. 
Like right around my birthday. 

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So about six months. 
Yeah. 

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Well over six months have been 
working day in and day out and 

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not sleeping and waking up and 
doing things nap today. 

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Well, I did take a nap 45 
minutes. 

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But yeah, if anybody out there 
wanting to start a Publishing 

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Company, there's a lot of stuff 
you got to do and I knew I knew 

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that going into it, but It's 
Tricky. 

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I live in Florida and we all 
noticed a lot of stuff going on 

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down here, but one of the things
I like to do is just random, we 

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don't, we don't have state 
income tax, but there's random 

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things that you have to pay for.
Yeah, it's not as it's not as 

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it's not as sunny as it looks. 
So, you know, aside from that 

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and then the normal day-to-day 
stuff of working with with 

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printers and stuff like that 
orchestrating, our warehouse 

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partner, Using brand Fox for 
fulfillment, in the United 

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States and rest of the world and
then coordinating that. 

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At the same time, with our 
exclusive UK wholesale, like 

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selling direct to Igloo tree, I 
show you. 

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If you're watching and Dan, it's
again, like I've worked with Dan

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atmel Sonia for so long and it 
was straightforward. 

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Obvious choice for me like and 
she's very, very much like, yes,

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we can. 
This happened at a glue tree and

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then working with Ian tricked at
all the problems in this world, 

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in Berlin to cover you. 
So it's something I see a lot of

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RPG consumers on the small bit 
of social spaces that I'm in 

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Discord in other, you know, red 
atoms and stuff here. 

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And there being like I really 
wish I could get this but it's 

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going to cost me the cost of the
book and 5 more pounds to. 

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Have it shipped to, you know so 
you know, a $15 scene becomes 

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45. 
So yeah, just one of those like 

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taking a lot of extra time to 
coordinate windows are going to 

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actually hit their which they're
printing. 

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Ye one has arrived so far. 
Our friend Kirby's adrift has 

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actually arrived in the UK 
nothing anywhere else yet. 

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Um, so, yeah, just to just a lot
of that stuff. 

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The day-to-day danced with the 
printers Banks. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
The part of keep telling myself,

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once we get over launch, it's 
going to be a lot easier. 

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I know it's not and just open 
the door and invited Murphy and 

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didn't I? 
Come on Murph yeah, sorry I 

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talked about. 
No you go on go off. 

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Yeah, it's really shaking listen
to you. 

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I mean there's just so many 
moving parts and there's there's

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so much going on. 
Do you like Revel a little bit 

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in the chaos? 
Of the problem solving and the, 

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the coordination of so many 
things, when I can get it, when 

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it all things and all pulls. 
When you're, when you're the guy

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with the tablecloth and you rip 
it out, and all the glasses 

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actually stay there on the 
table, I used to do that. 

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When I was a kid, I was 
fascinated by that, by that guy 

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and my grandmother hated it, but
I never broke anything, you 

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know, I never read, never broke 
anything so yeah, but in doing 

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that now it's it is It is fun. 
It is rewarding. 

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When, when things go right in a 
row, it's pretty discouraging. 

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Sometimes they're, you know, 
when it's, you're just like, 

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when you're waiting on a bunch 
of stuff and waiting on someone 

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that, you know, a tax ID number 
or, you know, funding to arrive 

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from somewhere or You know, 
every little thing, puts every 

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little thing else behind. 
And then as most of the folks in

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the chat what I roll my 
shoulders, a lot of a lot of 

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books in a chat will know that. 
I do take it very, very 

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personally when I am behind on 
something. 

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You know, like I take it very 
seriously, I people get behind 

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its art, its life its work and 
stuff like that. 

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But yeah, when when when but is 
look for budgetary fiduciary, 

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you know, infrastructure, delays
roadblocks and the way of 

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working with the people at 
working with a person that 

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creative aspect, that's when I 
get the best when that's when it

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has gotten the bumpiest and been
like, oh man. 

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But then what like really good 
days like yesterday where it's 

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just like doing all the things 
list, list, list list list and 

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you just scanned in just getting
them done. 

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So, And then tomorrow is the 
weekend. 

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What's the weekend? 
That's the weekend, and he's not

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even the weekend anymore. 
All right. 

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Exactly, it's all that. 
But so all these moving parts of

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come together. 
You're finally, you know, 

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getting to the point where you 
hit your, are we soft launching 

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Space Penguin. 
Like how what are we at? 

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West Point actually like really 
hard are we launching right now?

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Right, right. 
This is super soft. 

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Super soft launch party. 
Right now, books are at the 

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printers and some are, some are 
being shipped and so they're 

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00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:11,300
arriving at particular Outlets 
where they will be going out. 

443
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,400
I, I have P, you know, I think 
you've been rotating images up 

444
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,200
there with the with the covers 
and stuff like that. 

445
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,600
I have I have moppy's of them. 
Is it show? 

446
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,400
And tell time show and tells 
her? 

447
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,900
Yeah, absolutely. 
It's absolutely yeah. 

448
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,000
We're going to be doing. 
I'm not with my marketing, 

449
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:37,200
arson. 
My marketing friend died sugars.

450
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,700
This morning. 
Shout out to die. 

451
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:44,200
For just being an amazing 
person, overall, and helping me 

452
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,500
with all of this marketing and 
visual and just kind of keeping 

453
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:52,300
me on track. 
It's been really fantastic. 

454
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,500
So we kind of set up like a 
two-week strategy. 

455
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:57,200
They've been think we're going. 
We're going to kick it on 

456
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,600
Monday. 
We're waiting for waiting for a 

457
00:28:58,608 --> 00:29:01,000
few more pieces. 
To fall in place as far as like 

458
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,300
stuff shipping to the warehouse 
because we don't want to be like

459
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,900
it's available and then it, you 
know, like where housing 

460
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:12,500
Partners, they don't want to put
stuff up for sale if it's not in

461
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:14,300
the warehouse and I don't 
either, I want to make sure that

462
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:18,400
it's actually there. 
It's just been a it's been a 

463
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,300
control thing with me. 
Like I'm those of you two might 

464
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:25,000
have seen me talk about 
crowdfunding on different spaces

465
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,000
in that. 
I'm in the I mean the I don't 

466
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,300
like crowdfunding campaign, just
let me know. 

467
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,600
Don't like people crowdfund, let
people have fun. 

468
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,700
I brings that crowdfunding 
companies. 

469
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:39,300
Just for me for this. 
I wanted to try this this first 

470
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:42,800
year and see if we can get by 
without of it, you know, without

471
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,400
having to do that. 
So it's getting the books made 

472
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,000
and shipped in where they're at 
and then just being in control 

473
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,900
and paying attention to how many
were selling and what we're 

474
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:54,600
moving. 
And if we have something that's 

475
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:58,500
available that it's available 
and it's and it looks good. 

476
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:02,500
So, But yeah, as soon as we get 
the lockdown on, almost all that

477
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:04,400
stuff, we're going to start 
doing the roll out. 

478
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,200
So in the next couple of weeks, 
we're hitting it. 

479
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,500
Pretty hard with is going to be 
some post several times a day on

480
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:14,100
the different socials and stuff 
like that. 

481
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:17,800
Some more small giveaways here 
and there but then a little bit 

482
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,900
of a reveal more about the 
products, either way, but I 

483
00:30:20,908 --> 00:30:22,300
brought them all brought them 
all. 

484
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:25,900
Well, I mean they're here. 
So we'll go down a list. 

485
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,000
The scarabs, is it curbs Us in 
the chat? 

486
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:31,100
This is there. 
Yeah, exactly. 

487
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:35,000
This is a great t-shirt. 
All right, I do, but it's 

488
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:41,100
already at work yesterday, so I 
I've been working with curbs for

489
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:46,200
almost two years now, I think 
and on the, on the Halloween 

490
00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:51,300
trio, slasher, paranormal and 
bucket, bash, bucket batches so 

491
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:53,700
good. 
I work with curbing. 

492
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:58,500
Crystal knows and doing other 
stuff and when they were like, 

493
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:02,000
hey Lou, Get this space one. 
It just can we actually talk to 

494
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,400
you today me and it was just it 
just kind of rolled into how it 

495
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,900
actually was how it happened was
like accidental but you know, 

496
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:15,200
I've wanted to edit them more 
directly like in a developmental

497
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:21,000
a say-so a drift or Mothership 
money. 

498
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:24,500
Also, you can use it with OE you
can use it with classic traveler

499
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:29,800
the crew. 
I'm that cover blurbs. the crews

500
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,900
hired to recover the records 
from a derelict carbo's cargo 

501
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:36,700
ship floating in the islets of 
langerhans and asteroid cluster 

502
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:39,300
and the puck sector no 
communication has been sent to 

503
00:31:39,308 --> 00:31:42,200
received by the ship that its 
cargo and extremely rare 

504
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:46,400
phosphorescent algae that has 
medicinal and weapon effects is 

505
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:52,400
extremely valuable so fetch 
quests, right, but I don't give 

506
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,300
too much away because as people 
pick it up as wardens paid up 

507
00:31:57,308 --> 00:31:59,900
and read it and then there are 
did you Did you know, there are 

508
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:04,300
people who play RPGs, I thought 
everybody who who was in RPGs 

509
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:07,400
was a DM or a warden, or a 
judge, or whatever, have you a 

510
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,800
GM and stuff like that. 
Really even play, we just read 

511
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,900
them. 
So we just ran over so it is but

512
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:17,200
you know there's no it's great 
to find that. 

513
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,300
There are still people. 
There there are folks who like, 

514
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:22,300
no, I don't run games. 
I just prefer to, you know, I've

515
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:25,400
my IRL group. 
It's they're relatively new to 

516
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,100
games and they don't have any 
interest in facilitating. 

517
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,900
At all. 
They're just like we just want 

518
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,700
to play and I was like that is a
really cool take on it, you 

519
00:32:33,708 --> 00:32:37,500
know, for me, I was obviously. 
So always fascinated by being 

520
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:40,300
your The Dungeons and Dragons 
cartoons. 

521
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:44,500
A little dungeon master guy's 
haircut was so bad, I always 

522
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:49,000
always wanted to be that guy so 
I don't get too much away about 

523
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:53,800
adrift, but I do know that it is
part of the public sector and 

524
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,900
there's more to come in the puck
sector. 

525
00:32:55,900 --> 00:33:01,700
Don't do cool. 
We'll do the other mother ship 

526
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:08,700
right off distress signals by 
reece.carter and I always forget

527
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:14,100
Holly's last name. 
Probably Gingka Roz leahey did 

528
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:20,200
editing on this Eric Hill did 
design and layout and Ruby see 

529
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,300
also did awesome. 
Fantastic piece of art. 

530
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,000
Reese is a good buddy of mine. 
Known each other for almost as 

531
00:33:28,008 --> 00:33:32,700
long as I've been in RPGs. 
Yes, he did dead in the water, 

532
00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:37,600
which we was released by exalted
funeral last year and it's very 

533
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,900
quickly become one of the 
quintessential books over on the

534
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:45,500
mothership server. 
When people are like, what 

535
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:47,100
should we run? 
I'm new to this. 

536
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:51,400
What, you know, I think the real
one makes that saying is there's

537
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:54,700
a clean path and a dirty path. 
You know, there's one where it's

538
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:58,300
linked very quiet and haunted. 
And then the dirty path is like,

539
00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:01,600
there's still an active. 
Going on between the crew of the

540
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,200
previous crew, the ship and 
stuff. 

541
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,400
So distress signals is like a 
further exploration in that 

542
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:13,000
concept of like easy to run, 
pick up and play stuff, and it's

543
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,199
a bunch of ships and stations. 
And so we've got like, you know,

544
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,900
a text. 
I've got spread little mini 

545
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:21,199
Maps. 
Like what happened, you know, so

546
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:26,300
you can run the ship and then 
Holly's fabulous, fabulous, 

547
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:29,199
fabulous art, it's hard to see 
in here with my life. 

548
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:33,900
Lighting. 
But it just yeah everything you 

549
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:37,300
need to if you like oh man I 
only got two players tonight. 

550
00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:38,800
Okay cool. 
But you still want to play 

551
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,900
Mothership role of a couple 
zeros on the app or whatever. 

552
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:44,400
And then in just jump in, we can
do that. 

553
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Or you've got some new players, 
you want to work A Min or it's 

554
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:54,300
literally distress signals. 
So I'm going to keep going go 

555
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:55,600
for. 
Yeah, that was yeah. 

556
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,600
A revamp reissue of one of my 
favorite DC. 

557
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:09,500
C, 0 level funnels written by 
Forest Aguirre, our cover art by

558
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:14,500
James View West there. 
Who else is in here, Matt 

559
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:19,900
Hildebrand, David Lewis Johnson,
Nicolo and Thomas jail, all 

560
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,300
interior, right? 
For those of you do you guys 

561
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:28,500
know DC Caesar level funnels? 
You get four zeros, they're not 

562
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:30,900
actual Actors quite yet and they
are. 

563
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:35,900
But pretty squishy beyond the 
silver scream is in omage to 

564
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:42,800
1970s Film, go into a theater in
and saying, going to see 

565
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,700
Phantasm and shit like that. 
And yeah, it rolls nicely into 

566
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:52,500
this adventure funnel. 
We've added in some extra stuff,

567
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:57,300
we've put in like there's now a 
D30 table, what stuck to the 

568
00:35:57,300 --> 00:36:02,000
theater floor because you need 
this kind of like that right, 

569
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,000
really? 
Right. 

570
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:07,300
It's just one of those it's a 
super fast. 

571
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:11,100
Super clean is and In early 
third party DCC funnel. 

572
00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:15,400
The maps are super awesome. 
Matt Hildebrand, did the 

573
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,100
original design and layout on 
all this and Matt was really 

574
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:22,400
awesome and cool and was like, 
yeah I know, I still have those 

575
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,000
design files and gave them to me
so I can go in there and you 

576
00:36:25,008 --> 00:36:28,400
know, just do some Spruce it up 
and another you know quick edits

577
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,700
past and stuff like that on it, 
those who don't know. 

578
00:36:30,700 --> 00:36:36,000
Matt is the art director at 
Goodman games and so he bought 

579
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,800
stuff with 4 DC, Well, I think 
that's been there in six years 

580
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,800
now five, six years favor at a 
show and you want a good time 

581
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:48,700
pop into one of the seminars 
that Matt leads about the art of

582
00:36:48,707 --> 00:36:54,400
DC, or the art of picnics and 
yeah, really good, really good. 

583
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,000
I love you, Matt Hildebrandt. 
Well, so Gary, nothing is got 

584
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,900
some, oh, yeah. 
I got some things in the works 

585
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:12,700
with him and some other folks 
later in the year too. btss, Two

586
00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:15,300
more go to more. 
Yeah, okay. 

587
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:19,000
Yeah. 
Garden of kurta by Cade Crites 

588
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:22,700
with the development and 
designed by Christian Kessler 

589
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:29,800
editing by myself. 
So, Troika Troika, and we love 

590
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,900
Troika. 
I write. 

591
00:37:30,900 --> 00:37:35,100
And one of the one of the 
mythological things in Troika 

592
00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:42,700
are the Giants of cart of kurta 
and Kade has Taken that to to a 

593
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:48,900
nice new level and has built a 
biological and, you know, a 

594
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:51,000
plant. 
I can't I don't know what words 

595
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,700
are flora and fauna research 
station inside the heart of one 

596
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:57,100
of these Giants. 
Right. 

597
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:00,700
And there's an infection and 
other stuff going on. 

598
00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:05,200
So they did all this beautiful, 
beautiful, beautiful, beautiful 

599
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:13,200
art. 
I'm going to show Yeah, this one

600
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,900
here. 
So these are all hinder on 

601
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:19,600
hand-painted, like I, I love 
this shit out of this. 

602
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:24,600
Super nice. 
Simple little drop in spot for 

603
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,900
any trike. 
A campaign, you know whether 

604
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:31,300
it's you know if you're going 
dark and gritty or if you're 

605
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:33,500
going the you know women's 
clothes. 

606
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:36,800
Like well yeah the other really 
neat thing about Garden kurta. 

607
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Is it also can slot really 
nicely into Mothership? 

608
00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:46,400
1e or 0e, we didn't put stats in
it for that but the entire time,

609
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,100
while, you know, I'm working 
working on these with at this. 

610
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,100
It's I'm just like oh yeah I 
know I'm just thinking in 

611
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:58,500
Mothership think while while 
reading heads writing and stuff 

612
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:01,000
in here. 
Super super, super nice. 

613
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,000
It is also dual status. 
Look Christian I said stead and 

614
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:13,100
not stated its dual standard for
A deed for D&D like be X 

615
00:39:13,100 --> 00:39:14,300
essentially. 
I would say there would be X 

616
00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:15,400
that's in there. 
I was looking through it 

617
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,000
earlier. 
Yeah, my mind, if I might have 

618
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000
seen wall copy. 
Oh yeah, yeah, no, that's I say 

619
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,200
UPS on purpose. 
Yeah. 

620
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:26,000
Just it's one of those going 
forward and again, like I said, 

621
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,400
it's nothing new. 
A lot of people have done it, 

622
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:34,800
but I've been really, I like 
books that are better out of the

623
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,400
way. 
But utility. 

624
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,800
Right? 
So something like that. 

625
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,500
Like having those be accepts and
by sending Did with his powers 

626
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:43,500
to The Medic or go see these 
book at? 

627
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:47,600
Atmel Sonia. 
Won't you Ryan point to it? 

628
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:54,700
Ryan exact point, I do it, we 
added in those extra stats are a

629
00:39:54,707 --> 00:39:57,400
person that runs the class of 
Travelers. 

630
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,000
Probably my favorite of all the 
games. 

631
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,600
DCC, probably second, most I can
run DCC from sleep. 

632
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,400
Like I just I know most of the I
know the stat modifiers and I 

633
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,400
can give you probably reasonable
spell effect results versus a 

634
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,500
bunch of a success. 
Four hundred some odd games, 500

635
00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:20,400
games, I don't know. 
Um, and Mothership in Troy, 

636
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,400
getting only stings. 
And so, I think in a lot of 

637
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,900
systems that the same time all 
the time. 

638
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:31,500
So having those in a book really
makes it super useful to me. 

639
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:34,800
A lot of the stuff that's going 
to come out from space, pink or 

640
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:40,300
going to have You know, the 
writers system that they're 

641
00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:43,300
writing it in and in one of 
their favorite or one of my 

642
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:46,600
favorites or one of the are 
somebody else on that particular

643
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,900
collaborative projects, you 
know, doing a thing where it's 

644
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:55,000
like, yeah just more stats, more
stats, more stats, you know, it 

645
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,700
just makes things so much 
easier. 

646
00:40:56,900 --> 00:40:58,100
Yeah. 
I mean, that's awesome. 

647
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:00,200
I guess, that means if, if 
Mothership book comes out and I 

648
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,900
just think it's cool that I'm 
playing Mothership and I play, 

649
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,500
you know, some kind of BX clone 
which I do, I'm like, oh yeah, 

650
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:08,300
I'm not picked up. 
Because I know space, Hank 

651
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:11,300
penguins got probably some BX or
something rules in the backpack 

652
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:15,300
and gang contacts from so, very 
glad you liked that, a lot. 

653
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,800
Yeah. 
Well, and that, and you'll see 

654
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,900
more of that coming out once we 
at the mothership boxed set its 

655
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:26,100
kind of once. 
And once that is once, that is 

656
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:30,900
locked in none of you should, if
you should see my, you should 

657
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:33,500
see my freelance calendar, it's 
pretty full. 

658
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,400
I'm right now which is exciting 
because Yeah, that I know that 

659
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:45,400
products late but hey okay. 
It is very, very, very soon and 

660
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,800
when it's in my say that but 
what once that's locked in, when

661
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,500
you're going to start seeing a, 
like I said, a lot of those 

662
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:56,800
conversions stuff like that like
I you can't really do a Rosetta 

663
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,300
Stone unless I guess you really 
could. 

664
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:03,600
But it would be almost someone's
full time job to do right for 

665
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,600
translation with all the the 
number of systems. 

666
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,300
And Mechanic tips and tools and 
everything that everybody uses 

667
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:14,600
but yeah the more utility the 
better. 

668
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,300
I want my tools. 
I want my tools to be super 

669
00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:19,300
useful. 
Yeah. 

670
00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:22,300
Multi-tools, I also think that 
when you create conversion rules

671
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:25,900
for a different game style, like
even just the context of 

672
00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:27,600
converting it to something else 
either. 

673
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,100
Maybe that's not what you play. 
You're like okay, that's how 

674
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:31,200
they can grow. 
That's how I think about. 

675
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,000
I know how that system works. 
And I played this system so I 

676
00:42:34,008 --> 00:42:36,500
can, I still think it's 
incredibly useful even it's not 

677
00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:38,000
exactly. 
The same system that you 

678
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,300
currently play, you know? 
Yeah, well I mean and if you 

679
00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:44,500
make, if you make something that
has like the more usual 

680
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:46,500
something is more use. 
You can get out of it. 

681
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:48,200
I mean, it's just that's just 
how things work. 

682
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,400
So, if you have something that 
has multiple stab blocks or more

683
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,000
than that, like, the odds of 
someone actually not just buying

684
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,200
in reading and putting on a 
shelf but actually using it for 

685
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,700
the things you're using for is 
is, you know, it's fantastic to 

686
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:03,200
have that. 
I also just love how much Watty 

687
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:09,400
stuff is out before one year. 
It's yeah, a whole shelf of 

688
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,500
Mothership stuff before 
Mothership even dropped. 

689
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:13,300
So that's, that's, that's cool 
to see you too. 

690
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:16,500
It's getting there. 
The cool thing about it is that 

691
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,700
system is like, it's the, you 
know, I mean and I'm sure people

692
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,200
in certain get tired of hearing 
me reply to them, or read me 

693
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,600
reply to them. 
Do what works for your table, 

694
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,800
but but it really is do what 
works for your table. 

695
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,100
You know, there are there are 
things that hold. 

696
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,500
But I mean and quite a few 
things that I've worked on that.

697
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,100
Folks are just like our are you 
his changing this? 

698
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:39,900
You changing that. 
I was like, I I don't know but 

699
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:42,200
if you want to put it out and 
you want to say that it's for 

700
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,200
that and then and then and 
that's your timeline for your 

701
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,300
book to get out there. 
It's going to be okay you know 

702
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:52,400
I'm saying like yeah nothing's 
nothing's unbelievably broken 

703
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,400
like it'll all be addressed in 
some way shape or form might 

704
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,100
have to expand the conversion 
pamphlet extra page or something

705
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:04,300
so conversion. 
Seeing don't kill me Shawn if 

706
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:09,600
you're okay. 
And in the the last of our 

707
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:16,600
launch titles dread nights, this
one been working with red covers

708
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,200
cool. 
Well that's just going to be the

709
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,500
launch hardcover so a lot of 
people watching some people in 

710
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:30,000
chat. 
Other folks prevent some is a 

711
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:35,200
skirmish Miniatures miniature as
I agnostic game for you know 

712
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,700
inspired by and originally 
Written the first couple for 

713
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:46,400
morgue and Dread nights is your 
vampires and your Dracula is 

714
00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:49,700
your squad. 
Instead of being a war, been 

715
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:54,000
going out and you know in the 
world and you know traveling 

716
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,500
through gun back Etc. 
Or like in the case of the last 

717
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:02,400
war, you know, being in that in 
that weird war and this one, 

718
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,700
your band are all hunters and 
they're going out too. 

719
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,200
Fight Things That Go Bump in the
night. 

720
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:15,600
Of course, there is very few 
vampirism and there's like a p. 

721
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:19,300
So those are super fun. 
And then there's all kinds of 

722
00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:24,500
other classic, you know, Gothic 
and Victorian era monsters done 

723
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:28,900
up in in Wills, you know, 
traditional style like this. 

724
00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:34,100
And this is the 17th. 
I think the 17th forbidden, some

725
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:36,800
you know, between books in jeans
and stuff like that. 

726
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,700
So I'm lucky enough to write - 
count them all. 

727
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:47,000
I'm looking after you met World 
Cup years ago, and started, you 

728
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,300
know, doing editorial stuff with
him. 

729
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:53,100
And then, you know, when I was 
ready, F, you know, pushing the 

730
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:58,600
stuff out this one, I ran some 
games, this at Gary Cohn and 

731
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,700
there's a final scenario in 
here, which involves a lot of 

732
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:05,000
monsters as you would in a final
scenario. 

733
00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:10,400
And then I Was like, oh yeah, 
there's four players not to. 

734
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:13,700
So I had to go and scrounge and 
I pulled up a bunch of Meatballs

735
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:16,600
that I had in my travel bag and 
picked up a bunch of videos from

736
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,200
the Dealer's Hall. 
That table was just, it was a 

737
00:46:20,207 --> 00:46:24,600
clusterfuck of little of 
Miniatures all over it. 

738
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,000
Both games players managed to 
win and it did it was very, very

739
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:35,100
very, very close. 
So yeah, this one is soft cover.

740
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:39,500
Usually I I love the soft covers
part of what got me? 

741
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:43,000
Really wanting to work on 
prevents almost a soft cover of 

742
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,100
the the first one because I can 
take and crush it and bend it, 

743
00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:52,600
and use it at the table, and 
then Ryan's brand, Brenda, no 

744
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,600
blood starts running from Ryan's
ears. 

745
00:46:54,600 --> 00:47:00,800
You know, is you should not, you
should never see my DCC core 

746
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,600
book. 
So, oh, wait, oh wait, oh wait, 

747
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,200
oh wait, wait, wait my DCC core 
book. 

748
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:17,500
It's a two-part book. 
He has this day as has seen, a 

749
00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:20,300
lot of, a lot of play, a lot of 
use. 

750
00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:26,200
So yeah, that was a good Warren,
used book to the thing is, I'll 

751
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,100
just buy a second one and they 
just beat up the second one. 

752
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:31,500
So yeah, that's, that's how we 
do. 

753
00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:35,100
You know, I love the Forbidden 
songs like the, the the, what 

754
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:37,400
they've done the entire time 
with the soft covers and the 

755
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,000
hardcovers is great, and I like 
the tweak in the cover. 

756
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,000
So you get a little bit 
different, you know, originally.

757
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,100
I think it was just White to 
Yellow. 

758
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:49,000
But with gosh, I think it was 
like, last war. 

759
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,100
And even the one after that 
were, they almost did like a 

760
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:52,700
complete where they didn't 
completely different cover 

761
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:54,600
between the soft and the hard. 
And it's just really cool to be 

762
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,200
able to because obviously I'm 
going to get both. 

763
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,300
So it's nice to have two 
separate covers for both. 

764
00:47:58,300 --> 00:48:04,000
So, absolutely have to get 3 
because 4 launch. 

765
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,100
We're doing. 
We're doing a show, we're doing 

766
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:10,100
a quick run to get into. 
Get them printed faster and, and

767
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:12,400
we'll was like, I just going to 
do it all black. 

768
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,600
So it's all black in the skull 
isn't Dwight. 

769
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:19,000
So those would be those of you 
that run and then these will be 

770
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,100
the main run of the hardcovers I
really really really really like

771
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:23,100
this. 
Read a lot. 

772
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:25,300
It's gorgeous. 
Yeah Ryan's about everybody to 

773
00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:27,700
read this credit card number off
to you right now, right? 

774
00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:30,200
Right. 
Beside it up. 

775
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,000
One of the cool things with this
was, will limit himself to just 

776
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,900
black white and red. 
So which are my favorite colors.

777
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:47,400
But yeah, so it's Very clean 
compared to others, forbidden, 

778
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,600
some previous forbidden Psalm 
releases and stuff like that. 

779
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:55,100
So there's a bit more of a 
narrative aspect. 

780
00:48:55,100 --> 00:48:57,700
There's a lot of fiction. 
It goes into it. 

781
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:01,600
Yeah. 
More with kind of shading over 

782
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,900
into that book of for people who
want to read a little bit more 

783
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:09,100
out of it too. 
Yeah so those are those are 

784
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:13,800
launch titles, really strong 
launch release like that. 

785
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,000
That That's a hard release, you 
know. 

786
00:49:16,100 --> 00:49:31,200
Yeah. 
You know working with folks who 

787
00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:35,100
are lucky enough to work with 
and then and some new person. 

788
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,100
I haven't actually worked 
directly with paid on a book 

789
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:42,700
that they wrote and it's their 
first book Garden of kurta and 

790
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,000
I'm just like that. 
That makes me like so super 

791
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,500
happy. 
And this is the same thing like 

792
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:51,900
in if you want to hang on one 
second, I'm going to do the big 

793
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:53,300
lie. 
I'm just going to shout out a 

794
00:49:53,308 --> 00:49:57,200
bunch of titles. 
Yeah please for these because 

795
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,100
like I said before the before 
the show I have the next 40 

796
00:50:01,100 --> 00:50:05,500
years kind of Milestone doubt 
where I where I want to be with 

797
00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:09,300
the stuff and and and how we 
want to do this and so part of 

798
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:12,600
that was his early on was 
getting with a bunch of my 

799
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,400
regular collaborators and It's 
and just being like, what do you

800
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:16,300
have? 
What do you have? 

801
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:18,900
What do you have? 
We very, you know, after what 

802
00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:22,000
four months we had to stop the, 
the new pitches because there 

803
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,100
were a lot of really great ones 
and there's a lot of great ones 

804
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:26,600
coming in all the time, but I 
want to do service to the ones 

805
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:32,800
that we've, that we've agreed on
worked on, you know, but Amanda 

806
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:38,900
p and writing intend to Tran art
on Resident which is for 

807
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:48,000
Mothership set in Aaron me. 
And anxiety wizard on fear City 

808
00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:54,800
for Troika, silicon g, mark, 
Conway, prisons, forsaken, bear 

809
00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:02,000
God for DCC jogo, bearish. 
Matt K on Hodel Island. 

810
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:05,300
That one's going to be part of 
our second second way so that 

811
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:09,300
will come out next quarter. 
We've got a few of these 

812
00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:12,200
launched up, I'd originally had 
the idea was like, will do three

813
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,900
a month. 
It's going to be a great and 

814
00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:19,100
then and because I was, But 
there's the when it's less 

815
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:23,400
people in the infrastructure, 
team me, it takes me longer than

816
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:29,300
these things have been shaded, 
but whole island is it is if you

817
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:34,000
if you've ever read Joe goes 
packs reptilia Anna, which is 

818
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:39,000
just super far. 
Scholl weird, weird weird 

819
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,600
Troika. 
Total Islands kind of an 

820
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,400
existence of that taking the 
piss out of the car. 

821
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:49,400
Two Bros, a little bit. 
You know, these things, these 

822
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:55,900
things happen. 
Yeah, working with I said 

823
00:51:55,900 --> 00:52:01,100
earlier - on pop again, which is
a big, big, big city book 

824
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:07,100
inspired by the water margin 
like Chinese epic. 

825
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,900
Like, you know, Outlaws of the 
marsh time sort of stuff, I was 

826
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:13,100
like on aware of that and then 
it gets sorted. 

827
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:16,300
Like tell me about it and then 
I'm weird. 

828
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:18,100
We're hip deep in the editing of
that one. 

829
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:21,100
That's going to be a big, big, 
big, big, big city book and how 

830
00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:27,100
to build this mythical Apotheca 
cool joke about that working 

831
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:30,000
with skull boy on a project, I 
didn't touch base with school 

832
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,500
would ask if I had tell a say 
which project, but let's just 

833
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:41,000
say it has something to do with 
better Legends and a newcomer 

834
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,300
horse camp, same camp, working 
on cobra. 

835
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:48,500
Rest. 
It's going to be dual stated for

836
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,900
D CC and DD come on an 
introductory series of modules, 

837
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:55,400
cover, express it. 
Tells you what's going to 

838
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,700
happen? 
It's going to be on a train, 

839
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:58,400
right? 
And a bit of a railroad. 

840
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,200
I I personally had particular 
philosophy when it comes to 

841
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,300
running a lot of public place 
and saying the author Creator 

842
00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:10,300
runs a lot of public places and 
he's a, he's a professional for 

843
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:14,700
higher, DM, and he's got these 
series of four books, 

844
00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:17,400
introductory teaching stuff. 
Like seeing his skin, it's one 

845
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,200
of those that were going to be 
dual status. 

846
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,900
That's going to do a lot of like
you know, teaching when it comes

847
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:27,800
to, you know, getting people to 
jump over from D and D or to go 

848
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,700
back and forth or just to try 
new stuff, just the bail 

849
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:37,900
Comprehensive Care Center in the
mountains, by spooky Rusty. 

850
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,500
That one is off. 
It's still walking in and 

851
00:53:42,500 --> 00:53:44,400
Spooky's in the chat. 
He's good. 

852
00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:46,400
He's going to what we have. 
Some very nice. 

853
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:51,100
Nice things about five e97, I 
love that Bob, whatever that is.

854
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:54,900
Yeah, we iterate. 
Every time we dunk on five evil 

855
00:53:54,900 --> 00:54:01,000
bit, Gotcha. 
Come into Care Center is 

856
00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:06,000
sensibly, Troika, possibly 
liminal whore. 

857
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,200
It's about a comprehensive care 
center in the mountains written 

858
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:15,200
and designed by spooky Rusty, 
it's good. 

859
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,200
It comes from a place from them 
and it's a lot of notes with me 

860
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,200
as someone who has worked in 
mental health field. 

861
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:29,300
And, and You know, experiences, 
mental health, concerns, 

862
00:54:29,500 --> 00:54:31,200
whatever. 
You know, I'm saying, like, I've

863
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,900
been on both sides of those and 
it's a nice interesting way. 

864
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:38,400
We're going to see what we can 
do it again, without gamifying 

865
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,300
the situation. 
Like, that's one of those big 

866
00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:43,000
things. 
Yeah, but possibly presenting 

867
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,000
the experience of being 
involuntarily put into a place, 

868
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:52,400
it's not fun, but that's, you 
know, doing a lot of intricate 

869
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,700
work with that. 
I think rusty said that's on. 

870
00:54:54,700 --> 00:54:57,000
It's like seventh draft or 
Strapped right now. 

871
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:02,200
So we're yeah, we're really 
yeah, doing a lot, doing a 

872
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,500
focusing on the writing would 
Adventures that that Debbie and 

873
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:08,400
I are writing. 
Some of you might have heard a 

874
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,900
game called outdoor survival. 
You know, it's what it's what 

875
00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:16,900
daguerreian Dave used to come 
and sort of codified their hex 

876
00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:18,900
curling outdoor procedures for d
and d. 

877
00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:21,400
And back in the day, I love 
outdoor survival. 

878
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:27,100
It's also from 1960s. 
So it's That's a rough one. 

879
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:29,800
Yeah, you know, rules wise and 
stuff like that, but the 

880
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,800
underlying B? 
It's the same thing that we do. 

881
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,400
All of that, you know, you start
in a hex, you roll for 

882
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,700
direction, you have situations 
and stuff like that. 

883
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,100
So, Debbie, and I, we we play a 
lot, a lot, a lot of word games.

884
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:43,900
And so we're designing our riff,
our take on outdoor survival, 

885
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:49,000
called penguin adventurous and 
still the Condrey is working up 

886
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,300
the design for that one, we're 
going to do a cool thing. 

887
00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:57,600
We're going to launch that as a 
cheap or For free, you know, or 

888
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:04,000
plenty Community. 
Happy's rules, just the basic 

889
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,400
rules with a jam behind it. 
You know there's different 

890
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,400
schools under you do a Jammer, 
do not do a gym. 

891
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:15,400
We went to gym aspect for this 
because there's really you can 

892
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,900
do all kinds of stuff with 
scenarios. 

893
00:56:16,900 --> 00:56:19,100
You can do all kinds of stuff 
with reskinning. 

894
00:56:19,700 --> 00:56:23,400
So we have the basic one penguin
Adventures which is based off of

895
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,900
RK itty-bitty and and she's you 
in. 

896
00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:28,800
Your characters are cats going 
through the countryside, you 

897
00:56:28,808 --> 00:56:32,100
have to have food, you have to 
get food and water to, you know,

898
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:34,600
I'm so that's bad. 
That's the one for me, trihex, 

899
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,200
crawl. 
Where your cats and the way in. 

900
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,200
And then tip side. 
Yeah, and, but, but it's just 

901
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,400
the, it's just a board game 
aspect of it. 

902
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,400
You're right. 
So you, you have a, you have 

903
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,600
movement rules, and then, you 
roll a die to see if you have an

904
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,300
encounter. 
If you have an encounter you 

905
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,300
roller, pick the encounter, and 
then you do that in like, you 

906
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:54,200
know, each little scenario with 
it, they're meant to play out in

907
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,700
like 35, 40 minutes tops. 
Like it's is a super, super 

908
00:56:57,700 --> 00:56:59,900
casual board games. 
So the first one is like your 

909
00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:02,000
cats, and then we also have one 
there. 

910
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:05,200
We're just going to be unicorns 
looking for rainbows. 

911
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,500
We also have one where you're 
going to be like Punk kids and a

912
00:57:09,508 --> 00:57:12,400
van and you got to make sure 
that the drummer has enough 

913
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,000
cocaine. 
You know I'm saying? 

914
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:22,500
It's going to be all ages. 
There's an additional course we 

915
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:25,600
are. 
So we're going to open up with 

916
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,200
that one. 
One and kind of encouraged and 

917
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,500
see what people do. 
And hopefully, if some of those 

918
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:34,100
ones come out of the gym, if we 
get some really good ones or if 

919
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:37,900
we get some really interesting 
or whatever work with those 

920
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,000
people, collaborating doing 
that. 

921
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,300
And then again, sometime down 
the line collecting that stuff 

922
00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:45,600
into a nice, big box set with 
extra Maps. 

923
00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:48,900
You know, we're talking about 
getting folks to do like 

924
00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:51,800
quarterly map packs for that. 
You can different writers, 

925
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,700
writing different scenarios and 
stuff. 

926
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,800
So it's just kind of Yeah, I 
don't know which thing with the 

927
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,100
other not quite RPG but the 
other one board game, kill the 

928
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:03,800
wizard. 
I've been working on kill the 

929
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:09,400
wizard for, about two years for 
about a year seriously, and it's

930
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:15,100
called kill the wizard, because 
your crack team of people, there

931
00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:17,600
actually are characters from 
Little DCC game. 

932
00:58:18,100 --> 00:58:21,300
Wayne Schneider used to run a 
game called War lands, for us, 

933
00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:24,700
which was his secret was, you 
know, it was just risk, almost 

934
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:30,200
like, I know what it was really.
Good but in d.c. see if you look

935
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,900
on DC seed and he is 92.5 
Dryland demon Crown Hill because

936
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:36,600
this see a little party on the 
front there. 

937
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,400
That's our our party from that 
Doug painted us into this. 

938
00:58:40,700 --> 00:58:44,200
So we've kind of kept those 
characters round and we make 

939
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:50,500
references to them here and 
there so I have taken in writing

940
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:53,900
up those characters as the 
adventuring party. 

941
00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:56,400
He'll the Wizards pretty much a 
dudes Map. 

942
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,300
So, it's taking my favorite 
parts of heroquest and Talisman 

943
00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:06,700
and the old TSR vampire Pocket 
game from 80 to that really 

944
00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:11,400
killer are Lotus. 
Cover on it and, just again, 

945
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,600
just taking we play a lot of 
board games and a lot of board 

946
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,700
games. 
Rule books are rough. 

947
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,100
Would you would say that? 
Yeah, I think just a bit. 

948
00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:26,600
Yeah, yeah. 
I'm a I'm a, I'm a A huge fan of

949
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,600
Fantasy Flight. 
But there aren't the rule books 

950
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,400
are difficult, sometimes. 
And so, one of the things that I

951
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:38,500
really want to do with the, the 
rule books for us is it's just 

952
00:59:38,500 --> 00:59:40,500
make things like super, super 
duper greasers. 

953
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:44,400
So simplifying a lot of this 
stuff Andrew bellary following 

954
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,300
arrows who does a lot of the 
shirts. 

955
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,900
Well, epic levels is his rap 
band wrap and. 

956
00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:55,500
Wow, I'm old because of her a 
crew. 

957
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,400
Epic levels, get yet. 
He and Stephen, Andrew also, 

958
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:03,200
makes InDesign shirts and 
Andrews doing the map for killer

959
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,600
wizard. 
He's actually coming down next 

960
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,200
month. 
And we're locking ourselves in 

961
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,800
here, and we're bashing the rest
of this game out. 

962
01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:14,100
See my, my first board game as a
lifelong player of board games, 

963
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:17,800
it's going to be probably going 
to be a lot of Tears, a lot more

964
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,700
more tears than usual, but 
there's going to be a map and 

965
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:25,000
there's going to be 
screen-printed character meeples

966
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,500
and some little low. 
Acrylic doodads and stuff like 

967
01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:33,500
that, that go with it, you know,
nice nice, nice, nice rule book 

968
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:35,700
and stuff like that. 
But again, super simple, the 

969
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:38,600
kind of stuff you you play, 
after you've been at a 

970
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,500
conventional day and you've 
either been working table. 

971
01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:45,300
You've been doing it, everyone's
exhausted and we know we've run 

972
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:49,400
our late-night DCC hobo Nomicon 
Shenanigans and it and there's a

973
01:00:49,408 --> 01:00:52,600
few people left and we want to 
play a game and so that's like 

974
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:58,100
the level of it's like post beer
and Like, you know, there we go,

975
01:00:58,100 --> 01:01:00,300
that's a post. 
Barrett got its wanted to do is 

976
01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:02,200
take the post in front of it, I 
fixed it. 

977
01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:08,500
And then real quick, quick hits 
on a bunch of the rest of the 

978
01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:14,900
stuff rebar and venison or two 
titles coming from Sheamus Brad.

979
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:18,400
At some point in the future, 
venison was in the violence Jam 

980
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,000
book from last year and there's 
going to be an expanded version 

981
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:28,500
of that talking when There's a 
few I didn't get clearance on 

982
01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:31,500
where I can talk about those 
two, I'll make sure mention. 

983
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:35,300
The next time I do a show 
working with some folks who've 

984
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:38,900
done some stuff before and doing
some reissues and some 

985
01:01:38,900 --> 01:01:43,400
re-envisioning of some like 
modules from several years back.

986
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:51,000
You know, stuff like that link 
again called bunnies and it just

987
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,600
by nice. 
That's all you need to know 

988
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,800
right now, act mutants of 
Madness. 

989
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:02,100
Just in CC module by for see 
Gary the same guy who did be 

990
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:06,700
able to sort of scream Britain 
codex bye. 

991
01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:12,100
Stella Condrey which is Stella 
is writing 500 monsters for DCC.

992
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,700
I know that Goodman games has a 
module. 

993
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:18,100
Her has a book coming out. 
I know there's a bunch of 

994
01:02:18,107 --> 01:02:21,000
monsters in it. 
Stella's is still just going to 

995
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,900
be stellastot Sharia. 
So stuff, the rebound 

996
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:28,600
transmission pan. 
Amplatz just really good. 

997
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,000
Wait, you don't know that one. 
Is that something you don't have

998
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:32,700
Ryan? 
No, I absolutely 100%. 

999
01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:40,000
Okay. 
But yeah, so I'm starting this 

1000
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,500
we and on developmental passes 
on the first 100 of those. 

1001
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,400
Those are going to be releasing 
that same fashion. 

1002
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,300
You know, here's a book Works. 
We're talking about color 

1003
01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:51,800
coding, we're talking to we're 
getting our tour in line and 

1004
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,400
stuff like that and it's one of 
those it's going to be State, 

1005
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,100
you know. 
Data for DC but also started for

1006
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:03,700
other systems and there and some
of these some of these things. 

1007
01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:09,200
Let me I guess I have to say the
names of some of these We can 

1008
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:20,500
kill the eggs, too. 
I'm in the wrong one, dire skunk

1009
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,900
that's not giving too much away,
dire stomachs good, this be some

1010
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:29,300
Classics like help ease but then
living vampires. 

1011
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:33,400
So if you know Stella is 
murderers, you don't Sharon 

1012
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,700
playing living vampires? 
Yeah, exactly. 

1013
01:03:35,900 --> 01:03:39,900
I know it's good to be just just
that level of just that level of

1014
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:40,800
uncomfortable. 
Weird. 

1015
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,900
It's gonna be really good. 
I've been in talks well with 

1016
01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:46,700
Logan Dean about a bunch of 
stuff. 

1017
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,700
Tough Logan's. 
Two companies, one of my 

1018
01:03:48,700 --> 01:03:51,400
favorite books of the last three
years. 

1019
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:56,800
So good and Logan and I looking 
like myself is also a background

1020
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,100
Logistics person and does a lot 
of stuff like does literal 

1021
01:04:00,100 --> 01:04:04,400
Logistics. 
And he's taught me a lot of 

1022
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,800
stuff in a very short time that 
I've known him about how to do a

1023
01:04:07,808 --> 01:04:13,500
lot of this stuff that we do on 
the backend, better couple folks

1024
01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:18,900
local to us here in Cape Coral. 
Daniel is going to be doing 

1025
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:23,800
primer, which is Daniel. 
Runs is a group that they they 

1026
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,900
play vtm. 
If I've a lot and they play a 

1027
01:04:26,908 --> 01:04:30,700
lot of five eating and d and it 
played a lot of 40 D and D they 

1028
01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:33,700
tend to be towards story or 
slightly crunchy or step. 

1029
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:37,900
They play a lot of Pathfinder 
stuff and separate divergent 

1030
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:39,700
evolution. 
Daniel doesn't know anything 

1031
01:04:39,700 --> 01:04:44,100
about like the G+. 
The 0s are like the Indy RVs and

1032
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:46,400
stuff like that. 
Just knows what he wants to 

1033
01:04:46,408 --> 01:04:47,200
play. 
I was right. 

1034
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,800
And so he's writing a game 
called primer, which is his 

1035
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,800
fantasy Heartbreaker. 
But has no idea about all of 

1036
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:58,500
this stuff and it's so great and
so working with him on that. 

1037
01:04:58,500 --> 01:05:02,400
And then he has a hack of a no 
Maj to fire emblem, called 

1038
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,300
sword, and spear, that will that
we've been thrown back and forth

1039
01:05:06,300 --> 01:05:11,600
for a bit Christian Kessler, who
works on a bunch of stuff with 

1040
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,800
me here. 
We've got a few projects lined 

1041
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,600
up with him. 
I'm just kidding. 

1042
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:22,300
Names survivors of the core Wars
fingers of the worm. 

1043
01:05:22,300 --> 01:05:27,800
And then he it's not named yet, 
but there is yet a third board 

1044
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,400
game so that we're going to be 
doing, it's getting involved, 

1045
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:37,200
hexes and magic and then, oh, 
you just said, man. 

1046
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,100
Let me tell you that. 
That was two keywords for me. 

1047
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:41,800
It's axes. 
And there's magic. 

1048
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,000
I'm in you got me. 
So, right? 

1049
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,900
And then Do the arrow. 
Seth Ian's nowhere news, which 

1050
01:05:50,900 --> 01:05:54,800
is a project, it's a broadsheet 
project that Seth and I've been 

1051
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,400
thrown back and forth for a year
plus now and then it's getting 

1052
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,300
close to that broadsheets pulled
them out. 

1053
01:06:02,300 --> 01:06:04,500
You got Maps. 
I know that Adam boss has done 

1054
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,700
some things like that and that 
larger format and I had 

1055
01:06:09,700 --> 01:06:13,600
proclaimed 2022, the year of the
broadsheet only got one 

1056
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,600
broadsheet out which was part of
the the last more Kickstarter 

1057
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,300
But yeah, it's more modular 
more. 

1058
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:23,400
More stuff like that I guess, 
yeah. 

1059
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,900
Like expanding, I think it's 
part of the reason I'm doing I'm

1060
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:30,000
doing is to make games that I 
want to play. 

1061
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,900
I'm really there's a I mean 
you've named so much stuff but 

1062
01:06:32,900 --> 01:06:35,800
there's so many projects in as 
I'm really interested in like 

1063
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:38,200
high diving into. 
I'm really looking forward to 

1064
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,100
the coming out. 
I'm kind of looking forward to 

1065
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:42,200
the primer one. 
You were talking about because 

1066
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,000
I'd love to see the game made by
somebody who has nothing to do 

1067
01:06:45,008 --> 01:06:47,200
with the osr scene. 
Yeah. 

1068
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,000
Because I'm so far removed from 
like that more like, yeah. 

1069
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:54,800
Like crunch here. 
Here mmm modern D&D kind of path

1070
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,000
Pioneer seen. 
That sounds really interesting. 

1071
01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:00,400
Yeah, so you got you, you just 
have a couple things going on 

1072
01:07:00,500 --> 01:07:02,300
this. 
If you just do things, just a 

1073
01:07:02,308 --> 01:07:03,300
few. 
Yeah. 

1074
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,400
What you gonna do with all your 
extra free time? 

1075
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,500
Oh well, finish officially the 
mothership. 

1076
01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:14,400
Boxset editing tie World money 
but for silver arm later this 

1077
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:22,200
summer I hypatia's angst. 
Sean richer or Intelligence, you

1078
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:28,900
all know cropland and dungeon 
Grand Prix and turn Willow and 

1079
01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:31,700
Stratus Fein. 
There's a constant 

1080
01:07:31,700 --> 01:07:35,600
back-and-forth pipeline which on
currently I think next up from 

1081
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:40,000
there I did development for the 
dirt bike. 

1082
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,100
Dungeon Grand Prix Rift. 
So it's all plugged dirt bikes. 

1083
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:48,200
Yeah, so that one Sean's like 
busy writing, that one so that 

1084
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:53,400
will come over pretty soon and 
then then the cycle of the snake

1085
01:07:53,400 --> 01:08:03,700
will 32/3 its cycle of the snake
will 3, but it's the second part

1086
01:08:03,700 --> 01:08:05,300
of cycle of the snake will have 
to. 

1087
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:08,200
Okay, this is technically the 
third in the state wolf cyclic 

1088
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,500
cycle. 
The snake will have 2.5. 

1089
01:08:10,900 --> 01:08:17,200
Yeah, first Blood Parts like 
part 2. 

1090
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,399
I mean, you wouldn't do it. 
Expect, you would expect nothing

1091
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:24,100
less from from inaudible 
intelligence joint that one, 

1092
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:27,899
I've decided, sat with him, with
the dev, on that one already. 

1093
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:34,000
It involves a Weird black site 
underneath the sea, like 

1094
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,899
mountains and all this other 
stuff. 

1095
01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:41,000
And there's a city and doing it 
too much of a way about it. 

1096
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:45,399
But it's, yeah, it's going to be
really great when it comes out 

1097
01:08:45,399 --> 01:08:47,399
the whole time. 
I was like, doing Dev on it. 

1098
01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:50,899
I was just like thinking like 
all that, you know, Twin Peaks 

1099
01:08:50,899 --> 01:08:53,600
and stuff like that. 
Well, my favorite shows you, I'm

1100
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,000
liking that mindset. 
He was like, oh no, he had some 

1101
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,899
other whole aspect of it as like
looks going to work, it's going 

1102
01:08:59,899 --> 01:09:02,800
to be Great. 
So yeah, that's my free time is 

1103
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,700
taken up by doing a bunch of 
other freelance editing for a 

1104
01:09:06,700 --> 01:09:11,899
lot of stuff, and I'm playing 
games and we got, you know, to 

1105
01:09:11,899 --> 01:09:16,300
new kittens, you know, because 
itty-bitty past and we've got 

1106
01:09:16,899 --> 01:09:20,700
her little brother, the Jeeves, 
the Grievous. 

1107
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:24,700
He was not doing so hot for a 
few days that he just was not, 

1108
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,300
he was not having a good time, 
then, neither were we? 

1109
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:34,600
And so we and we got to, Kadence
Boca tan and Sabine and they are

1110
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,399
Terrors they're great. 
So yeah. 

1111
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:44,000
Hey, I would that be? 
That's where I'm at. 

1112
01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:49,300
Yeah, I have no idea how you 
keep all, or any of that in your

1113
01:09:49,300 --> 01:09:55,400
head at any time because I'm 
like, man, I run a game and then

1114
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,300
I do this and I work and I mean 
I guess I'm taking classes to 

1115
01:09:58,300 --> 01:10:01,600
but like dude, I couldn't 
imagine Like no I couldn't 

1116
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:06,400
imagine doing that's like this 
stack even has to print not even

1117
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:07,900
know what this is. 
This is Friday. 

1118
01:10:07,900 --> 01:10:11,000
This is stuff that I think I 
might have got done today. 

1119
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:14,300
You have won. 
This has great hell of Doom on 

1120
01:10:14,300 --> 01:10:15,100
it. 
All right. 

1121
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:17,200
There's never gonna be a magic 
item somewhere in one of my 

1122
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,300
games. 
Hell yeah, like that, that we 

1123
01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:24,600
will love that he had to just 
part of it. 

1124
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,700
Like I said, with what stuff 
that goes on in my brain injury.

1125
01:10:27,700 --> 01:10:31,300
I've just, I've just practicing 
and using You know, 

1126
01:10:31,300 --> 01:10:33,800
organizational software and 
getting to really know 

1127
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:38,200
spreadsheets. 
And then extend, so an overall 

1128
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:43,300
program to keep stuff on 
notebooks at for years, I worked

1129
01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:45,800
off of kitchen ticket pass 
because I've worked in 

1130
01:10:45,808 --> 01:10:49,800
restaurants and bars and stuff. 
And so, you know, the ticket at 

1131
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:53,600
that you write an order on and I
would have one for Mel Sonia and

1132
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,700
one, for Mothership and one for 
orbital intelligence and one for

1133
01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:59,500
EF and one for, you know, hobo 
Nomicon. 

1134
01:10:59,500 --> 01:11:02,200
And they would just It's it's 
tacked on the desk and I would 

1135
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,400
pull one out and I would do a 
little bit of work on that, you 

1136
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,000
know, and I do something. 
And then I, when the page is 

1137
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,300
mostly scratch, that you tear it
off and you rewrite, what you 

1138
01:11:10,300 --> 01:11:14,000
don't and do it there. 
When we moved, we moved here 

1139
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,800
from from Casey, I had for comic
book, short boxes, full of just 

1140
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,800
those notes because I wouldn't 
throw any of it away because you

1141
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,400
never know when you're going to 
miss something. 

1142
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,700
Or, you know, you got a 
reference back eventually. 

1143
01:11:24,700 --> 01:11:26,500
Yeah, absolutely. 
Yeah. 

1144
01:11:26,500 --> 01:11:30,700
I had a head for coming book. 
Short boxes stacked, very Really

1145
01:11:30,700 --> 01:11:33,700
full of those nodes. 
Nowadays. 

1146
01:11:33,700 --> 01:11:39,100
It's you know it's in tracking 
software and stuff like that or 

1147
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,400
I have you know a couple of grid
notebooks that I use to keep 

1148
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,200
like all of the business stuff 
in one and then all of the game 

1149
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,600
stuff and another one. 
So yeah. 

1150
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,200
You have a million a million, 
you know, plates in the air. 

1151
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,300
But at one point you said you're
talking about want to try three 

1152
01:11:57,300 --> 01:11:59,900
releases a month but what's your
actual release schedule? 

1153
01:11:59,900 --> 01:12:01,700
Go. 
Gonna be like for like how many 

1154
01:12:01,700 --> 01:12:04,300
games you would like to put out?
Now frequently, you're actually 

1155
01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:07,200
gonna put those out both board 
game and table talking. 

1156
01:12:07,900 --> 01:12:11,400
So, for this year, the, the 
first of those first fives, the 

1157
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,700
the zine designs, and then the 
hardcover softcover for trade 

1158
01:12:15,700 --> 01:12:17,400
nights. 
So, those of you are launched 

1159
01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:21,900
those, Alexa be starting in the 
next couple weeks. 

1160
01:12:22,300 --> 01:12:25,200
They'll be eventually available 
for sale. 

1161
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,300
Once they're in the warehouses, 
and they're good and alive. 

1162
01:12:27,300 --> 01:12:30,100
And we're testing and nothing's 
going, nothing's broken. 

1163
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,000
Then you know, follow all the 
socials and all that stuff. 

1164
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,000
Like we've got a sub stack that 
we're working on. 

1165
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,900
There were going to be hidden 
hitting stuff next week and 

1166
01:12:39,900 --> 01:12:43,000
doing some, you know, push to 
get some more, folks has eyes on

1167
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,800
stuff. 
So yeah, some time here in the 

1168
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,900
next. 
I'm really literally hoping in 

1169
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:53,900
the next 3 weeks to be able to 
say these books are on sale and 

1170
01:12:53,900 --> 01:12:57,400
then we've got a few like 
looking at my list here. 

1171
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,400
I've probably got three more 
that Are fairly close to those 

1172
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:08,100
would be in quarter three. 
I'm going to be over going to be

1173
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:15,700
traveling in the fall for a 
friend's wedding and I also go 

1174
01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:18,100
to the rules. 
I have to kill that same friend.

1175
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:29,700
So good luck. 
I know and visiting folks were 

1176
01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:32,300
going to go To Berlin. 
We're going to visit yawns yawns

1177
01:13:32,300 --> 01:13:34,400
shot. 
We're going to visit Igloo, tree

1178
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:35,600
headquarters and stuff like 
that. 

1179
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,500
Like in get to know people visit
a bunch of like brick-and-mortar

1180
01:13:39,500 --> 01:13:42,700
stores make some contacts and 
stuff like that. 

1181
01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:47,600
So a lot of August is taking out
taken up by that exploration 

1182
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,700
trip and then the fall going 
into going into the late fall. 

1183
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,400
I think some more lace like 
three or four more. 

1184
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,800
I'll present for second. 
Bear guides actually is really 

1185
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,600
really really close to that. 
And that's an art stages, 

1186
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:06,700
resident, is in art stages, so 
probably three to five more 

1187
01:14:06,700 --> 01:14:12,800
during quarter 3 and then can't 
really speak too much more to 

1188
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:18,900
what quarter for will look like 
super hoping to have the penguin

1189
01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:21,900
Adventures. 
The, you know, like a print 

1190
01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:25,600
version of that with the nice 
fold-out map for the board and 

1191
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,300
all that stuff like that. 
Yeah, that was that one's going 

1192
01:14:28,300 --> 01:14:29,700
to. 
I think we're going to do box 

1193
01:14:29,700 --> 01:14:31,400
set. 
It's another thing growing up, I

1194
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,100
loved box sets and who doesn't 
love box sets? 

1195
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:39,700
And I like, getting like three 
or four, you know, letter size 

1196
01:14:39,700 --> 01:14:43,400
State Saddle stitched booklets 
and, and jeans and whatnot with 

1197
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,100
some maps and stuff like that. 
That's the sort of stuff that I 

1198
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:48,300
like that. 
I want to see more of and make 

1199
01:14:48,300 --> 01:14:53,400
more of I'm so we're going to do
more of those and just, you 

1200
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:57,200
know, entry-level stuff like 
let's less worried about. 

1201
01:14:57,300 --> 01:15:00,000
I'm not so much worried about 
how they'll be receiving. 

1202
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:03,400
Sieved as a product because I 
know people like boxes. 

1203
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,200
I die halves apart. 
I love boxing. 

1204
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,800
I'm more I'm more wanting to 
make sure that whatever we do 

1205
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,800
that, we don't do it hits. 
It has everything and nothing 

1206
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,600
feels like an afterthought and 
it doesn't seem like there's 

1207
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,500
extra space in there, you know 
I'm saying? 

1208
01:15:20,700 --> 01:15:23,300
This is not shitting on the by 
ve starter box. 

1209
01:15:23,300 --> 01:15:24,800
I thought five you started box 
is good. 

1210
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,300
I like the fender over 
Adventure. 

1211
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:31,300
Yeah. 
And I will safe and over. 

1212
01:15:31,300 --> 01:15:35,900
It was probably their second or 
third best adventure. 

1213
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:41,300
That 5e is ever put out. 
Yeah, but but but it felt like 

1214
01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:42,900
there was something missing in 
that box. 

1215
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,100
You know what I'm saying? 
Like it's like it's like you 

1216
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:46,700
open it up. 
It is like there's, there's the 

1217
01:15:46,700 --> 01:15:50,900
rules introduction and then 
there's there's the the module 

1218
01:15:50,900 --> 01:15:53,600
and then there's map Sinister 
character sheets and some dice, 

1219
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,000
you know, I think realized what 
it was was just a tiny little 

1220
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,500
bit of a lore book or a setting 
book because I think that was, 

1221
01:15:59,500 --> 01:16:03,900
in fact, And over, but kinda 
bend over could have benefits 

1222
01:16:03,900 --> 01:16:07,200
like spend over and over could 
have been split into two things.

1223
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,400
That's what you know I'm saying.
It feels it feels like a box 

1224
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:14,100
needs three. 
Again, I say this and then we 

1225
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,500
get to be get to other box sets 
further down the line and 

1226
01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:21,200
there's and there's going to be 
like, oh no, I totally have no 

1227
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,900
idea, you know, it'll change. 
Oh I did realize I did skip the 

1228
01:16:25,900 --> 01:16:30,400
other, the other part. 
So in addition to Bruins Dread 

1229
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:31,800
nice. 
We're going to do the print run 

1230
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,300
of more qual later in the 
Summers to see us another one. 

1231
01:16:35,500 --> 01:16:38,000
The see I'm not that organized. 
I am organized. 

1232
01:16:38,500 --> 01:16:43,200
So more balls going to come out 
at some point and and working 

1233
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:47,500
with 28 mag, I don't know if 
either of, you know, 28 mag. 

1234
01:16:47,500 --> 01:16:52,500
But it's a great open minis. 
Yeah. 

1235
01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:56,600
Opens open source like non, you 
can get the, you can pee of 

1236
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,700
just, it's the number two, and 
the number 8 and mig-28 mang. 

1237
01:17:00,900 --> 01:17:07,900
And working with Will and 
Alexander there with that we're 

1238
01:17:07,900 --> 01:17:13,300
going to be doing a just 
slipcase edition of their first 

1239
01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:18,300
four first four issues like so 
you know a couple of volumes 

1240
01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:21,100
there's a lot that goes into 
that with rights because you get

1241
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:24,800
rights for the for the 
Miniatures units. 

1242
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,200
For the images and events that 
grass and stuff like that. 

1243
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,000
Because certain sculpture Kate 
you sir. 

1244
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:31,500
Companies and not going to name 
them. 

1245
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:33,900
But don't want you taking 
pictures of their stuff unless 

1246
01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:35,500
it's in their official house 
joint. 

1247
01:17:35,500 --> 01:17:36,200
Wait? 
What? 

1248
01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:40,500
Who Could That Be? 
So, but yeah, and doing with 

1249
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:46,700
that working on a light version,
or like a light version version 

1250
01:17:46,700 --> 01:17:51,700
of forbidden, Psalm aimed at 
kids in our players kids, do 

1251
01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:55,500
working titles childhood, it's 
going to have some fantastic, 

1252
01:17:55,500 --> 01:18:00,800
fantastic 8-bit art that 
Alexander's doing Minds me of 

1253
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,000
Earthbound of Mother, 3. 
I guy, I love the art. 

1254
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,000
I'm so excited. 
You can check the, you find that

1255
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,700
stuff over on the Forbidden, 
some Discord, and then also 

1256
01:18:10,900 --> 01:18:17,700
along with 28 mag and and 
working with Alexander is might 

1257
01:18:17,700 --> 01:18:21,000
actually be fulfilling from 
local to me. 

1258
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,900
Not not through the warehouse 
fist in the eye Miniatures, 

1259
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:29,200
which is part of the part of the
folks with 28 mag. 

1260
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:34,000
There are, there are three 
Scopes, there's two Orcs And 

1261
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,300
there's an explorer that route 
and you can check out the in the

1262
01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:41,400
most recent issue of 28 magwitch
should be up shortly if it's 

1263
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:46,400
not, there's a spread in there 
about the Explorer and whilst at

1264
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,700
it, it for forbidden some really
cool paint job. 

1265
01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:52,800
Yeah, I know, tomorrow is going 
to be kind of weird Christmas, 

1266
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,400
48 year old me. 
Zero means jealous of of almost 

1267
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,500
48, year-old me because I will 
be getting In the mail from 

1268
01:19:01,500 --> 01:19:06,700
Wales, a box of Miniatures in 
like, packaged in, like ready to

1269
01:19:06,700 --> 01:19:09,800
go. 
And then, our well in plastic 

1270
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,700
bags. 
And then, from A supplier in the

1271
01:19:12,708 --> 01:19:17,300
United States, clam shells for 
to put these in and then we're 

1272
01:19:17,300 --> 01:19:18,900
getting some packaging designed 
up. 

1273
01:19:18,900 --> 01:19:21,800
And yeah, we're doing some, 
we're doing some limited runs. 

1274
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,200
We're doing like, you know, a 
few hundred of each of the Orcs 

1275
01:19:25,500 --> 01:19:29,500
and several hundred of the 
Explorers they're not. 

1276
01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:33,100
To be like, oh, no limited time 
only you can never get them. 

1277
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:37,000
Again, we're just doing small 
runs because this is new for us,

1278
01:19:37,100 --> 01:19:40,100
you know, right? 
This is this is a, it's a new 

1279
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:42,900
thing. 
As it timed out. 

1280
01:19:42,900 --> 01:19:47,400
They were getting ready to do 
these at the time that I'm ready

1281
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:51,300
to do this. 
And you know, originally working

1282
01:19:51,300 --> 01:19:56,300
with, you know, fulfillment 
warehouse and to exclusive 

1283
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,900
retailers in other countries, I 
wasn't really going. 

1284
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,800
To get to do a lot of order 
fulfillment from here. 

1285
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,700
So this, you know, from from 
like, like, in my city. 

1286
01:20:07,900 --> 01:20:12,500
So it was actually kind of nice 
like to have these short runs. 

1287
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,500
Personally, obviously, we're 
hoping that everyone loves these

1288
01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:20,900
so much that we can literally 
scale up to production really 

1289
01:20:20,900 --> 01:20:24,000
fast and do that. 
But there's just something 

1290
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:27,500
awesome about Hands-On, like 
Debbie and I sitting at the 

1291
01:20:27,500 --> 01:20:31,800
table and packaging, the little 
mini With the card inside there 

1292
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,800
and bubble stamping it and then 
putting it. 

1293
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:38,400
Like that's, I mean, that's, you
know, I want to do it. 

1294
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,400
I like to do it, like, I like to
send out care packages and 

1295
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,400
random stuff that's you guys 
going to give me your address 

1296
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,100
too, by the way. 
Absolutely. 

1297
01:20:45,100 --> 01:20:47,500
I don't think I can write. 
Well, I really hope thing you 

1298
01:20:47,500 --> 01:20:49,900
guys get to the level of like 
high level production but like 

1299
01:20:49,900 --> 01:20:52,900
genuinely when I get stuff in 
the mail that somebody did by 

1300
01:20:52,900 --> 01:20:56,000
hand and like packed up and gag 
him like I fucking love this, 

1301
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,100
this is grim, you know, there's 
some there's some soul to that, 

1302
01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:00,500
you know? 
Yep. 

1303
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,200
Yep. 
They're like I just I really 

1304
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:07,200
love it when I said I got in 
stickers and it just I don't 

1305
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,700
know. 
It's just it's the fun of fun of

1306
01:21:09,700 --> 01:21:15,300
making stuff in and doing stuff 
as you remember a pen pals. 

1307
01:21:15,300 --> 01:21:17,700
We were kids. 
We had pen pals like and you 

1308
01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:21,900
would you would write letters to
kid in another country and they 

1309
01:21:21,900 --> 01:21:23,700
would say about me and I never 
had one. 

1310
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:28,300
So it was so fun and like that's
kind of now I'm like I got 

1311
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:31,300
pimples all over the world. 
Like I just I'll literally put 

1312
01:21:31,300 --> 01:21:35,200
you on my, on my ad on my 
address list and I'm make these 

1313
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,000
stickers for like, thinking 
adventures and for Space, 

1314
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:42,000
Penguin another random shit. 
And you'll just all of a sudden 

1315
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,700
there will be a little everybody
be like, oh I got the new 

1316
01:21:45,700 --> 01:21:47,800
sticker good to do sticker. 
I was like, yeah, cool. 

1317
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,600
And they don't they're cheap. 
I can make them inexpensively 

1318
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,900
and it's just a tiny bit of joy 
in this messy. 

1319
01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:57,200
Fucked up world. 
I think that's really cool. 

1320
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,800
I'm a there. 
I have a, there's a really dumb.

1321
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,700
The board game that I'm trying 
to find a copy of. 

1322
01:22:02,700 --> 01:22:04,800
If I find it, I might send it to
you. 

1323
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,400
So, what is it? 
Because I it's called volcanic 

1324
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,200
bird in the me and the voice 
concern game. 

1325
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:14,700
Oh, I don't know that one. 
But it's yeah, it's a it's like 

1326
01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:18,000
a great incredibly dumb and 
small and by the small artist 

1327
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,300
but like since you appreciate 
board games and I failed like 

1328
01:22:20,300 --> 01:22:23,400
you appreciate weird stuff but I
find another copy of it. 

1329
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,100
I'll send it to you. 
Hell yeah. 

1330
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:29,500
Love that. 
Love, that has no address to 

1331
01:22:29,500 --> 01:22:31,100
jerk. 
It So eventually I'll get to 

1332
01:22:31,108 --> 01:22:33,900
that post. 
Another pan will do will get 

1333
01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:37,300
that. 
So lot going on, lots of, in the

1334
01:22:37,300 --> 01:22:42,200
are lots happening. 
Where can people find all of 

1335
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,700
this stuff that like when it's 
going to release? 

1336
01:22:45,700 --> 01:22:48,600
Like I know you're on Twitter, 
you have your website, but what 

1337
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,400
are those? 
So, the people listening can can

1338
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:55,400
find those. 
And so, yeah, I have to look at 

1339
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,100
it because I don't use Twitter 
in daily life. 

1340
01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:59,800
That's what Young said, 
partnering. 

1341
01:22:59,900 --> 01:23:04,100
Marketing person to do this 
stuff was the bet I re marketing

1342
01:23:04,100 --> 01:23:10,200
person was the the was the best 
decision for me because I am 

1343
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,100
just unknown and unaware. 
You know, Jerry Sinclair give me

1344
01:23:13,100 --> 01:23:15,600
in a word a few years back for 
not having a Twitter and I 

1345
01:23:15,608 --> 01:23:22,000
appreciate that, you know. 
So so it's at Space, Penguin ink

1346
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:26,000
and I don't know as if Twitter 
is case sensitive, but it's at 

1347
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:32,600
Space, Penguin ink our website 
is Is www.spacetelescope.org 

1348
01:23:32,700 --> 01:23:35,200
ink. 
Shout out to my key Lombardi for

1349
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,200
teaching me about top-level, 
domains, the day that we did 

1350
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:43,200
that because we knew the space 
between part was going to be in 

1351
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,400
there, right? 
And I kept coming with odd 

1352
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,700
random things and Tony the 
sender was like, oh my God, 

1353
01:23:48,700 --> 01:23:50,100
that's to way too long of a 
name. 

1354
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:54,300
I was like, for forward names 
for the company, and he's like, 

1355
01:23:54,300 --> 01:23:57,500
no, it's just too much. 
And then I was trying to find 

1356
01:23:57,500 --> 01:24:03,500
and we will give you space And 
then Mikey, we went to the list 

1357
01:24:03,500 --> 01:24:06,700
of top level domains and we 
found dot Inc, which is for 

1358
01:24:06,900 --> 01:24:10,900
Creative Printing, Tada and 
Tattoos things. 

1359
01:24:10,900 --> 01:24:14,500
I like so. 
So, it worked out pretty well. 

1360
01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:17,000
And yeah. 
So then space banquet Inc, was 

1361
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,900
just kind of that's boom. 
That did that day that I were 

1362
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:23,700
that domain. 
Like last fall, was the day that

1363
01:24:23,700 --> 01:24:28,800
the name was set in stone. 
Nice, Facebook pages in the 

1364
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,200
works. 
Again with that yo yeah, I know 

1365
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:37,000
a lot of folks good music but 
right there's a there's a lot of

1366
01:24:37,008 --> 01:24:40,200
folks who do you stick with it 
and use it and stuff like that. 

1367
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:46,400
So we'll we'll do that with the 
visual medium of books and, you 

1368
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,400
know, and words and art and 
pictures and stuff like that 

1369
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,400
Instagram. 
I think in the end I think the 

1370
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,700
Instagram is going to be the one
where there's a lot of stuff 

1371
01:24:53,700 --> 01:24:57,100
going on, weird, you know, 
talking with died. 

1372
01:24:57,100 --> 01:24:59,800
We've got a plan to do stuff 
that we're doing. 

1373
01:24:59,900 --> 01:25:01,300
With the Twitter and stuff like 
that. 

1374
01:25:01,300 --> 01:25:04,800
But yeah, a lot of it is just 
going to be like, hey, here's 

1375
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,200
our stuff and here's what it is 
and doing shows, like yours and 

1376
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,500
Tony's and hanging out with 
other folks. 

1377
01:25:10,500 --> 01:25:13,100
You know, I've got, there's one 
in the can with low guard while 

1378
01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:18,100
beliefs, it's going to come out 
in June met him the other day. 

1379
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,800
Awesome. 
You know I'm doing spell burn 

1380
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,400
next week, I used to you know 
host Melbourne and stuff like 

1381
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,000
that. 
So that's great. 

1382
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:30,200
Just did doing these shows and 
stuff like this and being able 

1383
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,500
to talk a little bit and give it
a little bit more of a face or a

1384
01:25:33,500 --> 01:25:35,100
voice to kind of what we're 
doing. 

1385
01:25:35,300 --> 01:25:38,600
Yeah. 
And then you know, the sub 

1386
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,900
Stacks going to be the big place
where we're going to have 

1387
01:25:41,300 --> 01:25:44,500
interviews with the creative 
teams, like die has done 

1388
01:25:44,500 --> 01:25:47,900
interviews with all the craters,
all our launch titles, asking 

1389
01:25:47,900 --> 01:25:53,700
them about stuff, and yeah, just
given a bit more of a, just give

1390
01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:57,800
it a bit more of a face to it. 
So, yes, there's the Instagram. 

1391
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,700
I don't remember what the 
Instagram is. 

1392
01:25:59,900 --> 01:26:04,300
Sorry, I can look it up. 
This is just it's like yeah. 

1393
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:22,800
Shut up, yeah. 
Well I don't know what it is and

1394
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:27,000
dies going to watch this guy's 
gonna watch this in the morning 

1395
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,700
and be like, what? 
And I'll be like, what's good to

1396
01:26:30,700 --> 01:26:31,800
us? 
And we'll put it in the 

1397
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:46,700
stack is going to be pushing 
their to some Stacks. 36 times, 

1398
01:26:46,700 --> 01:26:51,900
I want to shout for some sex 
Stella's sub stack Spooky 

1399
01:26:51,900 --> 01:26:55,900
Rusty's, szostak me Castle, who 
might still be the champ. 

1400
01:26:55,900 --> 01:27:01,500
Christian M sub s really great 
and Krista said, stubb status 

1401
01:27:01,500 --> 01:27:05,400
really great. 
Those are yeah like folks and 

1402
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,000
and you know in Kirby's working 
on theirs as well for DT. 

1403
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:15,100
Like I it's kind of I so told it
was who's talking to us? 

1404
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:16,300
Maybe. 
It was died this morning and I 

1405
01:27:16,308 --> 01:27:20,100
was just like, yeah, it's nice 
because a couple of times a week

1406
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:24,600
I'll get These emails and from 
James tenían and and Kelly 

1407
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:27,600
Thompson Union. 
And these comic book creators 

1408
01:27:27,900 --> 01:27:31,200
and I don't want to read him 
right away but I can just leave 

1409
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:35,800
him sitting in my inbox and then
I can pop over and I can look 

1410
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,900
it's a Blog delivery service, 
you know? 

1411
01:27:38,900 --> 01:27:42,200
And if I want more I can go to 
their blog and if I'm, if I'm 

1412
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:46,200
wealthy, I can purchase, you 
know, like extended 

1413
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,000
subscriptions and stuff like 
that. 

1414
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:52,600
But yeah no I just I think it's 
It's a nice way to engage 

1415
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:57,000
especially for folks who are 
busier and doing the stuff 

1416
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:03,600
because I wish that I could say 
and I do my best to go around 

1417
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,900
and thumbs up everybody at a lot
of people don't know if you Baka

1418
01:28:06,900 --> 01:28:10,100
the new my Chewbacca emoji and 
stuff like that but like you 

1419
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:13,000
can't really do a Chewbacca 
emoji on someone sub stack but 

1420
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,100
if you have a sub stack, then 
you can mention. 

1421
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:16,600
There are some stack in your 
subset. 

1422
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,400
And yeah and and and pay that 
and Niko's working. 

1423
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,600
On a Blog ring, you know, and 
weathering and stuff like that. 

1424
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,600
My can Bart eat. 
Like it's great, you know, 

1425
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,000
Luke's blot and all that stuff 
Sheamus like I don't know his 

1426
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:34,800
Alma nerd, I'm a nerd friends 
but yeah, just kind of keeping 

1427
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,600
the communication alive. 
I think what you said about it 

1428
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:41,100
being like a like a, the blog's 
delivered to you is like how I 

1429
01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:43,100
feel about and I think it's an 
interesting development in 

1430
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:48,200
blogosphere but yeah, so yeah, 
those subsets great, it's really

1431
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:52,300
nice that like you said people 
can Just post other people's sub

1432
01:28:52,300 --> 01:28:54,500
stack blocks onto their stuff 
and like you can find a whole 

1433
01:28:54,500 --> 01:28:56,500
chain of it. 
And I know when we talked to 

1434
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:58,600
Prismatic waistline about blogs 
and stuff like that, it was 

1435
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,200
really eye-opening to be able to
see how much really is out 

1436
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:02,900
there. 
And it's really cool that that's

1437
01:29:02,900 --> 01:29:05,500
kind of becoming a place where a
lot of people to put a lot of 

1438
01:29:05,500 --> 01:29:07,300
their thoughts and to be able to
spread that around. 

1439
01:29:07,300 --> 01:29:09,600
So, it's really fantastic that 
you guys are going in the 

1440
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,700
direction as well. 
So can't wait to can't wait to 

1441
01:29:12,700 --> 01:29:17,600
get those a bunch and then as 
you said everyone else's, do 

1442
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,900
you, do you want to do the 
giveaway? 

1443
01:29:19,900 --> 01:29:22,100
Do we want to? 
To actually give you some peace.

1444
01:29:22,100 --> 01:29:25,300
I didn't realize. 
Thanks for everybody who's still

1445
01:29:25,300 --> 01:29:28,400
around listening to us. 
I haven't been reading the chat 

1446
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,900
up and talking to these guys but
it's been. 

1447
01:29:30,900 --> 01:29:32,700
It's this is yeah, it's been a 
good show. 

1448
01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:37,000
So giveaway time, do we want to 
do one or two? 

1449
01:29:37,300 --> 01:29:39,800
Well, that's, I mean, that's 
really up to that's up to you. 

1450
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,600
You doing the giveaway, they're 
fighting to the death. 

1451
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,000
So however, you want to do it. 
Lets you want to, you want to do

1452
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:48,100
to just so we got double the fun
for people out there, okay? 

1453
01:29:48,300 --> 01:29:53,900
So, Yeah, so if you if you have 
not entered the giveaway, just 

1454
01:29:53,900 --> 01:29:57,100
have to be following to win and 
hit estimation one SPI. 

1455
01:29:57,100 --> 01:30:00,900
I'm gonna close that in like 
five seconds and then I'll pick 

1456
01:30:00,900 --> 01:30:03,500
a couple out here. 
So if you somehow are here right

1457
01:30:03,500 --> 01:30:05,600
now and haven't done it. 
Yeah, we got Hunter on the 

1458
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:10,400
countdown one. 
Yeah. 

1459
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:14,400
Now let me remember how to close
in trees. 

1460
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:21,000
Boom and we are closed. 
So then this should pop up. 

1461
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,100
So we're doing I assume since 
you're holding it up, dread 

1462
01:30:23,100 --> 01:30:24,700
nights is the first one we're 
going to give away. 

1463
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,900
So that is going to be 40 
Theory. 

1464
01:30:34,100 --> 01:30:36,900
You want a copy of dread nights,
it's just going to be dry night.

1465
01:30:36,900 --> 01:30:38,800
Synod says both but that's just 
going to drive might so that 

1466
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:44,400
zeros Theory so 0 if you are in 
the chat hit me up on this. 

1467
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,200
Yeah just message me or with me 
through twitch or hit us up in 

1468
01:30:47,208 --> 01:30:51,300
the Discord and we'll get your 
info to to jerk and we'll get 

1469
01:30:51,300 --> 01:30:54,300
that sent out. 
And keep in mind, this is a this

1470
01:30:54,300 --> 01:30:57,400
is the amount final copy. 
Like when you get the that's a 

1471
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,400
not final. 
This thing we took it to Gary 

1472
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:04,000
Cohn and we ended up rearranging
whole cloth, sections and moving

1473
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,400
stuff, got that limited edition,
smell to it. 

1474
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,500
You know, it's funny one of the 
games. 

1475
01:31:09,500 --> 01:31:14,600
I one of the games I ran there, 
I was with with several people 

1476
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,800
who do editing for a living and 
they chewed me up and they're my

1477
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,100
friends. 
But I was just like I'll this is

1478
01:31:20,100 --> 01:31:22,600
great. 
This is why we test is it 

1479
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,600
perfect? 
No, but yeah, sweet. 

1480
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,300
So cool. 
I'm gonna will you look at this?

1481
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:30,800
The Post-it notes or should I be
putting this? 

1482
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:35,500
You said zeros is z r. 
OS Theory. 

1483
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,600
Yep alright. 
Alright so now laundromat locked

1484
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:46,800
away Mama back number 42 game I 
should enter for this 142 know I

1485
01:31:46,900 --> 01:31:57,100
wanted it to provide hardcover 
people who went to a hardcover 

1486
01:31:57,100 --> 01:31:59,300
book but yes it's It's like 
those. 

1487
01:31:59,300 --> 01:32:03,700
It's the books box box love 
bucks. 

1488
01:32:05,900 --> 01:32:09,700
Um and J. 
Chill has won a copy of 

1489
01:32:09,700 --> 01:32:13,600
laundromat. 
Rachel 29 jhl 29k. 

1490
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:22,700
So if you are here, message me, 
if you are not here, hopefully, 

1491
01:32:22,700 --> 01:32:24,300
I'll find you, or I'll whisper 
you on, Twitch. 

1492
01:32:24,300 --> 01:32:26,600
Let me write that down, just in 
case, they're not here. 

1493
01:32:27,300 --> 01:32:35,900
Um, jhl 29 to 29. 
All right, so congrats everyone,

1494
01:32:35,900 --> 01:32:40,400
that one that, I mean, honestly,
I really wanted to enter like I 

1495
01:32:40,407 --> 01:32:43,000
said for that dreadknight so on 
because the, there's not gonna 

1496
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,700
be another copy of like that, 
like the Added big use been beat

1497
01:32:46,700 --> 01:32:48,100
up and looked at by other 
people. 

1498
01:32:48,100 --> 01:32:50,800
That's a really, really awesome 
thing to have something that's 

1499
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,100
really 19. 
When I die, I'll add you to the 

1500
01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:54,900
list of you get the dread 
nights. 

1501
01:32:54,900 --> 01:32:58,100
I'm not kidding. 
I have a I have a box over here 

1502
01:32:58,100 --> 01:33:01,100
that has all the proof copies 
because part of the editorial is

1503
01:33:01,500 --> 01:33:05,300
when I have a larger book I will
print out like even the 

1504
01:33:05,300 --> 01:33:08,900
mothership stuff I'll print 
those out and ate half by 11 so 

1505
01:33:08,900 --> 01:33:12,600
I can sit and actually use them 
at the table and test them out 

1506
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:16,000
and stuff like that. 
I've got stuff going back to I 

1507
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,500
don't know if I haven't trekking
numinous in there. 

1508
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,900
I've got some there's think 
there's a copy of Fever Swamp 

1509
01:33:23,300 --> 01:33:27,200
from like eight years ago. 
Like it like it was probably 

1510
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,900
like iteration seven or eight 
here. 

1511
01:33:29,900 --> 01:33:33,200
You know, that book went to like
13 revisions of just something 

1512
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,100
between Christian. 
And I just to get that just to 

1513
01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:40,000
dial it in to be made Lux Lux 
words and Andrew Sartre. 

1514
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,600
Good. 
So those are the things like 

1515
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,000
this. 
This thing right here, that no 

1516
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:49,500
one can see is the the the pre 
Kickstarter 12 years from 

1517
01:33:49,500 --> 01:33:54,100
Maximum, no choice, even edited 
or playtested or anything. 

1518
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:56,000
It's like a prized possession. 
So those things are great. 

1519
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,800
Love to have those specially 
from an editor who's going to 

1520
01:33:57,808 --> 01:33:59,400
have like every different 
variation of those. 

1521
01:33:59,500 --> 01:34:01,900
Yeah. 
So um so yeah. 

1522
01:34:01,900 --> 01:34:04,700
So listen dirt, I can't thank 
you enough for coming on the 

1523
01:34:04,700 --> 01:34:06,300
show. 
This is really fantastic. 

1524
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,300
Open. 
Invitation all the time. 

1525
01:34:08,300 --> 01:34:11,000
If you have something big coming
up please, please come on. 

1526
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:12,900
Please talk about it. 
We're super happy to talk about 

1527
01:34:12,900 --> 01:34:14,200
anything that you do is 
basically one. 

1528
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,000
Sounds absolutely amazing. 
Doing you've done awesome work. 

1529
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:22,000
You know, like you said over 500
books, have your name in it and 

1530
01:34:22,300 --> 01:34:26,800
every person who's ever spoken 
of you or has talked at all, 

1531
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,000
says, how you're just such an 
amazing person and such an 

1532
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,400
awesome positive force for the 
TT RPG industry and it's really 

1533
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:36,100
awesome to have you kind of a 
helming not help you are helming

1534
01:34:36,700 --> 01:34:39,100
Space, Penguin and doing these 
things that you want to do which

1535
01:34:39,100 --> 01:34:41,500
is what we all want. 
So just can't thank you enough 

1536
01:34:41,500 --> 01:34:43,600
for everything that you've done 
for everything that you're doing

1537
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,600
and super excited for everything
that's going to from this. 

1538
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,800
So and I think we're both really
excited about SPI. 

1539
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,400
I think it's going to be really 
cool and I think it's gonna be 

1540
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:55,700
super weird, which I think like 
we're very much down for, you 

1541
01:34:55,700 --> 01:34:59,300
know, thank you both for having 
me on super, super appreciate, 

1542
01:34:59,300 --> 01:35:02,000
and just and thanks everybody 
who's in the in the chat 

1543
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,800
watching this gift and everyone.
All those nerds and chat, 

1544
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:09,700
everyone who I've worked with 
before, and everyone who I work 

1545
01:35:09,700 --> 01:35:11,200
with now. 
And everyone I work with in the 

1546
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:17,000
future of like, yeah, the the 
It's pretty crazy place and 

1547
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:21,600
games just gives us a little bit
of light. 

1548
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:26,700
You know. 
It's yeah we can we can we get 

1549
01:35:26,700 --> 01:35:31,900
all work better and change in 
and do see I'm sorry, I'm 

1550
01:35:31,900 --> 01:35:36,400
getting sapping but it really 
but really is is like is the 

1551
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:38,500
reason I get up and do stuff is 
because I get to work with 

1552
01:35:38,500 --> 01:35:42,700
really great people. 
And I've learned a lot about 

1553
01:35:42,700 --> 01:35:46,900
myself by working with other 
folks, and And making cool weird

1554
01:35:46,900 --> 01:35:49,500
shit. 
Like, like I said, eight year, 

1555
01:35:49,500 --> 01:35:54,800
old me is super jealous of 48, 
year-old me like really, really,

1556
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,200
really, really, really happy 
that the kid inside me still 

1557
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:02,100
gets to just to game shit. 
So, yeah, that's awesome. 

1558
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,400
If you, like I said, can't can't
wait to see everything that's 

1559
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,500
coming. 
Super excited for these releases

1560
01:36:06,500 --> 01:36:09,200
saving up money already. 
So really, I said, really 

1561
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,400
appreciate you being here and 
for those listening where the 

1562
01:36:12,407 --> 01:36:14,900
weekly scroll all our social to 
hear there. 

1563
01:36:15,100 --> 01:36:16,900
They're everywhere there. 
You'll find actually listen to 

1564
01:36:16,900 --> 01:36:18,300
us so I'm not going to listen 
off again. 

1565
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:22,300
But again, super appreciate you 
coming on and and everyone in 

1566
01:36:22,300 --> 01:36:23,600
chat. 
Thank you so much for being here

1567
01:36:23,700 --> 01:36:25,600
and you guys all have a 
wonderful day.