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All right, so in Christianity 
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fundamentals of the faith, I 
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possible to come up with what 
where do you begin to to discuss

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far a 10,000 foot view as we can
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And we're going to deal with the
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You may not be familiar with 
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terminology. 
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overly and intellectual. 
And we'll define some of those 

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definitions. 
But first, let's just deal with 

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point #1 which is the case for a
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Theism is the belief that there 
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creator. 
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away possible to look at 
Christianity at the surface, I 

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think at the center or the 
greatest possible thing you 

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could walk away with would be 
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In Christianity. 
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as we look at the world, there 
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views that we that somebody 
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created all things and that 
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Christian, but that there is 
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does not believe in some kind of
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Now what whether you believe 
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true. 
Truth is true whether what it 

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doesn't matter what we think or 
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But let's first talk about the 
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is atheism may not be a popular 
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It's not technically a Bible 
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But if theism is belief in God, 
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awe. 
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So it is without God. 
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country is headed, where much of
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We're so smart, we don't need 
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And I have a statistic for you 
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It might be a little bit small, 
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2444% of Portland and Vancouver 
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some way in some form of 
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particular. 
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of the city that would say we we
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We're literally not interested, 
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So these are the people that 
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that think God doesn't even 
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And that's why this topic is so 
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Many would not claim atheism and
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agnosticism, which is to say I 
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not a God, as atheism is kind of
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down. 
But let me give you words from 

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one of the greatest prophets of 
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Maybe you've heard of Stephen 
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He says we are each free to 
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And it's my view that the 
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no God. 
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no one directs our fate. 
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realization. 
There is probably no heaven and 

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no afterlife either. 
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appreciate the grand design of 
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universe, and for that I'm 
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This is the end of atheism. 
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afterlife, there's no meaning or
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That's one of the greats. 
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in his heart there is no God. 
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It doesn't mean they're not 
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things, but that is the the 
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Let's look next at the position 
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Theism, as I said before, is a 
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monotheistic Christian kind of 
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But at the very core of our 
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You know this, right? 
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very first page, Genesis 11, how
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Yeah, in the beginning, God, 
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It is only four words into the 
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of our faith that we believe 
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According to this verse, the 
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God exists. 
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Right there lets us know how 
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is quite amazing how even one 
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answers than tons and tons of 
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Looking for an alternative 
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Here in this verse, we get time,
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All beginning time in the 
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If you study Genesis 1, you'll 
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the waters, and everything in 
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All of life's answers are so 
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God creating the world. 
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scholar named William Lane Craig
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caused to exist by something 
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of what theists mean by God is 
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It's a pretty basic fundamental 
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So I put it to you this way in 
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Theism doesn't make 1A 
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Christian without theism. 
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isn't the thing that saves us. 
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uniquely Christian. 
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believe in a God, a form of God,
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The Bible even tells us in the 
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that there is one God. 
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The devils also believe in 
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So even God's enemies, there are
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universe. 
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but that doesn't make them 
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They're not submitted to him. 
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this is the place where you have
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exists, acknowledging him and 
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know, I want to know, I'd like 
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That's the place where we all 
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Secondly, let's look at the case
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So far, we've made a really bold
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answer that science can't figure
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But what about the evidence? 
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suicide to say that you have 
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that you can't see to describe a
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physically material interact 
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if we can't fully describe them.
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invisible things of him. 
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observed, but the creation of 
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an eternal power and Godhead to 
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You, you know this, right? 
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person. 
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God at any time but nature. 
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how did we get here? 
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is? 
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building, right? 
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wonderful. 
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somebody that you've never met. 
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built itself? 
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thermodynamics, you cannot get 
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It's not possible for this 
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assemble itself. 
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building exists. 
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Psalm, chapter 19. 
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God. 
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look up. 
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tell that there is something 
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we understand. 
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expanse of the heaven shows a 
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actively involved in creating 
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the universe. 
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close enough to a son, no other 
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This witness of creation goes 
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revelation of the Word of God. 
It says day unto day utter a 

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speech every single day. 
Creation speaks even through the

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night. 
There is no speech nor language 

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where their voice is not heard. 
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that there's a God. 
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I'll be introducing you to today
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them is a Nobel Prize winner. 
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Nobel Prize in 1972 for his work
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He is a biochemist. 
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I think only an idiot can be an 
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We must admit that there exists 
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force with limitless foresight 
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whole universe going in the 
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So tell me that Christianity and
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Here's a Nobel Prize winner that
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that one out, you're just not 
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So first, let's look at 
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Creation proves that God is 
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Creation proves that God is 
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So in case you need to be 
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since you've been in science 
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definition from Google. 
OK, it's the world's best 

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trusted source. 
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This is for you the systematic 
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behaviour of the physical and 
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observation, experimentation, 
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against the evidence obtained. 
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part is critical. 
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to observe, to study, to figure 
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over time. 
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is theory. 
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authoritatively that we've never
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evolution, we have predicted a 
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millions and billions of years 
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We just think our algorithm is 
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declarative, authoritative 
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the way it has to be. 
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That's called theory. 
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a theory in the sense that we 
cannot observe and prove the the

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beginning of the universe. 
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says in his word. 
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that we can prove as well. 
But you've got to be careful 

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with people that use the word 
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Just because they're revered, 
just because they're peer 

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review, doesn't make them right.
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to him, Timothy was a pastor. 
He says, O Timothy, keep that 

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which is committed to thy trust 
and avoid profane and vain 

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babblings. 
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And he says an opposition's of 
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Now, that is not to say that you
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scientist and be a Christian. 
I'll tell you in a moment that 

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that's definitely not true. 
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is what most science is today. 
It's claiming to be something 

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that it actually is not so we 
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I don't read books by people I 
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If I do, it's for research. 
I bought a book by Secular 

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Humanist recently, and I did it 
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them. 
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in what they have to say. 
Maybe you've had this 

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This has been my experience. 

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When I go to Powell's Books, my 
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Right down the road is Powell's 
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And when my wife and I go on 
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walk around and do stuff. 
And Powell's Books is a city 

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block of just books, tons of 
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And in Portland, it's like a 
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It's like, you're a good person 
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So I go in the bookstore and we,
I just try to putz around and 

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look at books. 
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amount of falsehood that's 
published, the things that would

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disagree with what we truthfully
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like gender and the basics of 
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And yet the the reprobate mind 
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And I just struggle to wonder 
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books and why so much of it is 
emotion. 

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It's not science, it's not data,
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It's politics and emotion. 
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end up. 
To come to a position of theism 

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means I can't make that decision
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atheists, it is a feeling based 
decision. 

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I have two examples for you. 
I talked to a guy this week who 

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would openly call himself a 
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And I joke, I'm getting to know 
him. 

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So I joke around a little bit 
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take for you to be a person of 
faith? 

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And he's like, you know, kind of
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And that was, that was my basic 
question. 

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And he immediately went to 
Christian nationalism. 

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And I was like, bro, I don't, I 
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started. 
And we, we had this kind of 

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emotional conversation and I 
just tried to digress and keep 

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the main thing, the main thing. 
But finally I asked him and I 

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used you should use this. 
I use this. 

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I said, if I could prove to you 
that there is a God, would you 

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believe it? 
And he said, no. 

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You see, what he really said in 
his answer was I don't want 

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there to be a God. 
It isn't. 

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I'm objectively wanting to know 
the truth. 

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It's I reject the truth. 
I don't like that is most 

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people's position. 
Recently, probably two months 

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ago, I met with a guy who was a 
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His, his job is to do chemistry 
things. 

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So I inquired at the scientist 
in him and said, ah, you're a 

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scientist. 
So if I and I asked this 

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question, if I could prove to 
you that God was real, would you

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believe him? 
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And then he admitted how 
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scientist and deny evidence. 
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work, his own mouth, that he 
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there's a God or not based on 
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This is how people discern their
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It's not about the truth. 
It's about do I want there to be

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a God, yes or no. 
But let me encourage you for a 

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moment. 
There are several respectable 

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men in the sciences, fathers of 
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I want you to hear from them. 
You don't have to just go with 

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the flow of what everybody says 
or whatever is popular and 

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trending today. 1st is Sir Isaac
Newton. 

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He invented calculus, he 
formulated the laws of motion, 

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developed the theory of 
universal gravity and design 

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telescopes. 
How's that for being a 

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scientist? 
He says this most beautiful 

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system of the sun, planets and 
comets can only proceed from the

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counsel and dominion of an 
intelligent and powerful being. 

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They'd kick him out today, 
wouldn't they? 

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They don't want your calculus. 
That's that's evil. 

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That sounds conservative to me. 
How about Robert Boyle? 

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He's called the father of 
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He developed Boyle's Law and the
vacuum pump. 

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He says the two great books of 
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Have the same author. 
So the latter does not hinder at

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all an inquisitive man's delight
in the study of the former. 

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How about Sir Francis Bacon, 
known as the father of 

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empiricism? 
He's the one that created the 

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scientific method. 
We study and we check and we 

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check and we we study and check 
over and over again. 

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He says if a man will begin with
certainties, he shall end with 

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doubts, but he if he will be 
content to begin with doubts, he

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shall end in certainties. 
If you think you got it all 

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figured out at the beginning of 
your experiment, you probably 

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don't have a very good 
experiment going on about Blaise

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Pascal. 
This guy developed Pascal's 

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triangle. 
He designed one of the first 

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calculators, he revealed how 
pressure is transmitted through 

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liquid liquids and he's known 
for his wager where he says if I

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believe in God and life after 
death and you do not, if there 

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is no God, we both lose when we 
die. 

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However, if there is a God, you 
still lose and I gain 

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everything. 
That's Pascal's wager, you 

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should use that one. 
Lastly, how about Galileo? 

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Galileo is known as the father 
of modern astronomy. 

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He invented a telescope, 
improved heliocentric theory, 

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inertia and more, he says. 
I do not feel obliged to believe

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that the same God who was 
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sense reason and intellect, has 
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Now, those are some of the big 
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We haven't made these kind of 
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We're, I mean, this might sound 
crude, but we're a whole lot 

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Dumber than these men were. 
So I put it to you this way in 

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your notes. 
Basic science helps us answer 

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the question, Do I want there to
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You can simply look at heaven 
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The Bible says in Acts chapter 
17 that they should seek the 

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Lord if happily they might feel 
after him and find him, though 

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he be not far from every one of 
us. 

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So you got you don't have to 
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faith, but if you know math and 
science, you can still have 

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faith if you want to know him. 
So that's creation. 

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Secondly, let's look at 
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See, morality proves that God 
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This is a unique part of the 
human experience, that there is 

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something within us that 
understands good and evil. 

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It certainly didn't come from 
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There's no purpose for so much 
of our conscious morality apart 

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from a God or a standard of good
and evil. 

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There is no objective right and 
wrong, Christian apologist Frank

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Turek says. 
Without God there is no basis 

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for objective morals. 
It's just Mother Teresa's 

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opinion against Hitler's. 
It's not that atheists think 

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there's no right and wrong. 
They just don't have an 

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objective standard. 
They can't prove one. 

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It's opinion. 
It's essentially whoever has the

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most power gets to make the 
rules and determine what's right

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and what's wrong. 
But there is something deep 

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within us. 
We know that something is right 

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and wrong. 
It doesn't even have to be 

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taught to us, Romans chapter 1 
says, because that which may be 

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known of God is manifest in 
them. 

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There is something uniquely 
inside inside of us. 

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We are wired for it. 
If you read CS Lewis in his book

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Mere Christianity, he talks 
about this law that all of the 

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world has. 
Every nature, every culture 

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seems to have a similar set of 
rules whereby we know things are

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good and evil. 
Like don't murder the innocent, 

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that's a good start. 
Don't take another man's wife. 

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We should protect children from 
bad people. 

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Some of these things you can 
look throughout the whole world 

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and just say we all just know 
that that's not right or that we

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should do that. 
It's deep within us, as Roman 

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says. 
For when the Gentiles, those 

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were the people that didn't know
God, which have not the law, 

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they didn't have the scriptures,
he said. 

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They do by nature the things 
contained in the law. 

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These, having not the law, are a
law unto themselves, which show 

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the work of the law written in 
their hearts, their conscience 

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also bearing witness. 
See, we have something deep 

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within us. 
God has designed us to know 

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things are good and bad. 
This is the shame that you feel 

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when you've made a poor 
decision. 

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Maybe you have things in your 
life you've done that you you 

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hope nobody ever finds out. 
There's something deep within us

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that knows that, but it's only 
in a Christian framework that 

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you can have an objective moral 
standard. 

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The conscience isn't perfect. 
This is the objective standard. 

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The conscience points us to the 
objective standard. 

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But famous atheist Richard 
Dawkins says that without God 

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there's no objective morality. 
And he's absolutely right. 

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Without a standard, it's just 
whoever's opinion. 

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And the end result of this kind 
of opinion is really quite sad. 

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I want to read it to you from 
Dawkins's book The Blind 

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Watchmaker. 
He says in a universe of blind 

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physical forces and genetic 
replication, some people are 

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going to get hurt, other people 
are going to get lucky, and you 

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won't find any rhyme or reason 
in it, nor any justice. 

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The universe we observe has 
precisely the properties we 

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should expect. 
If there is, at bottom, no 

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design, no purpose, no good, and
no evil, nothing but blind, 

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pitiless indifference, isn't 
that sad? 

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There's no purpose. 
That means, according to 

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atheism, you have no purpose 
over any other thing on the 

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planet. 
There's no design. 

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You were not intentionally 
created, you're just an accident

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from a bunch of soup. 
There's no good and evil, 

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really. 
It's just everybody do whatever 

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they want to do. 
There's no justice. 

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There's no ultimate justice for 
people that make really, really 

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bad decisions. 
It's really sad that people 

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believe this. 
Put it to you this way. 

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Rejecting God is ultimately a 
rejection of what you know is 

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right on the inside. 
See, the way that you come to 

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Dawkins's understanding is you 
have to reject your internal 

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mechanisms that tell you there's
a God. 

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You have to choose. 
I don't want there to be a God. 

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And then you formulate a 
scientific worldview around it 

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that is essentially atheism. 
But let's look now at the case 

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for consideration. 
These are some high and lofty 

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kind of claims. 
Maybe we're throwing some words 

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and phrases around you're not 
familiar with, but let's just 

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humble ourselves for a moment. 
I put these in your notes. 

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If you're not a Christian, will 
you be open to the possibility? 

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Will you be willing to seek the 
truth and the evidence no matter

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where it takes you? 
If you are a Christian and you 

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would say, of course, I believe 
in creation and design and 

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order, are you living like God 
is real? 

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You would say there's a 
conscience and there's something

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in you that knows good and evil.
Are you obeying it if you're 

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doing good so far, Are you 
getting equipped to be able to 

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handle this book and share it 
with others and say there's an 

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alternative way that has purpose
and meaning and hope? 

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And it's true? 
I hope if nothing else today can

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encourage you that it's OK to 
read and study and think and 

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test and probe at the universe. 
And you will discover, like all 

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of these fathers of science, God
is true and so is his word. 

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It's not a compromise to be a 
person of faith. 

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I'd say most of us in the room 
are believers. 

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And so I'd like to take a moment
to respond here in a little bit.

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We'll have communion. 
We'll jump back into the 

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scriptures. 
But let's take a moment and pray

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if you, if you kind of get the 
tone of which I'm trying to 

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approach this series, maybe you 
think there's somebody else that

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needs to be in the room that's 
not here right now. 

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Maybe at very least you can pray
for somebody who believes some 

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things that aren't true or maybe
even for yourself. 

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There's some decisions that you 
need to make today to say, man, 

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I've been living totally 
different than what I would say.

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So I'm going to give you a 
moment of silence to pray and 

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respond to the Lord. 
I'll lead us in a prayer and 

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then we're going to have a 
Psalm. 

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So let's take a moment and pray.
