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What up, Crossing family? 
I am so glad you guys are here. 

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I want to welcome all of our 
different campuses, those of you

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watching online and inside, and 
I want to wish a special welcome

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to those of you who are here for
the first time or the first time

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in a long time. 
I really believe that today 

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could be a significant moment in
your spiritual journey. 

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Before we jump all the way into 
that, though, I want to make you

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aware of a couple of things. 
One, camp registration is open 

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and available today. 
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So if you open up your app, go 
to the For You section, you'll 

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find all the details about that.
I want to encourage you to sign 

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up early and safe. 
And coming alongside of that, we

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try to make sure that we do 
everything we can to help every 

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kid who wants to go to camp be 
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Our In Your Corner golf outing, 
which provides scholarship funds

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for kids who are wanting to go 
to camp. 

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You can sign up for that in the 
app. 

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It is a wonderful time. 
Those 4G outings provide funding

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for kids who want to attend but 
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it. 
And your participation will make

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a difference. 
And for those of you who are 

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going, I love kids, I love 
Jesus, but I don't like golf. 

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You can just provide a camp 
scholarship and every single bit

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helps and everything you give 
will go to making camp as 

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affordable for every single kid 
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Our goal is simple, if a kid 
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make it happen. 
And for those of you who are 

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looking for a stretch goal, 
Jennifer and me, our goal this 

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year is to send one or pay for 
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every single one of the camps. 
And we have 9 camps because our 

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church keeps growing, which is a
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Which means that if you're 
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to every single camp, it would 
be $18190.00. 

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But you can give whatever you 
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You can find more information 
about that in the app as well, 

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just go to the For You section. 
But in my years of ministry, 

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sitting across the table from 
hundreds of you, there is almost

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always a question of faith 
before a step of obedience. 

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That is why I am so glad that 
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we've been talking about taking 
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And I want you to hear me say 
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God is not afraid of your 
questions, and neither are we. 

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In fact, I believe that God and 
His Word not only welcome every 

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question, but they have the 
answers to every major question 

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about life and about faith. 
Now, to give you some context, 

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every single one of our weekend 
services is going to be unique. 

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So we're not asking the same 
questions at every single 

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service. 
So if you're going, hey, 

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question I had didn't get 
answered, feel free to catch up 

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on the online when we post that.
But to help you take your next 

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step, we have partnered with 
Doctor Sean McDowell with us 

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this weekend. 
Doctor Sean McDowell has devoted

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his career to help bring truth 
to the next generation. 

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As a college professor, as a 
high school teacher, and as a 

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prolific author. 
He has exceptional insights into

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prevailing culture, and he 
imparts his observations to 

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fellow educators, pastors, 
parents, and to students. 

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He is currently an Associate 
Professor of Christian 

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Apologetics at Biola University,
which is the largest and top 

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ranked graduate program of its 
kind in the world. 

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As a part time high school 
teacher, Sean was awarded 

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Educator of the Year in his 
hometown. 

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He is a highly sought after 
speaker here and we were 

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incredibly grateful that he was 
willing to come and be with us. 

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He's spoken at various camps, 
churches, universities worldwide

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and is a frequent guest on radio
and television shows. 

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He's a best selling author and 
has written or Co written over 

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20 bucks. 
This guy doesn't sleep folks. 

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He has a Master's degree in 
Theology and Philosophy and APHD

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in apologetics and worldview 
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He is also the Co host of the 
Think Biblically podcast. 

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All he's done while he's been 
here is just sleep. 

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Most noteworthy, he is a 
dedicated husband and father. 

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He has been married to his high 
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Sweet Stephanie, since 2000, he 
lives in beautiful Southern 

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California, which is where we're
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of our campuses to get out of 
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Crossing family, would you 
please put a great crossing? 

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Welcome together to have Sean 
McDowell comes on the stage. 

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God bless you man. 
Thanks my man. 

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So this is a cool moment for me.
When I went to Bible college, I 

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felt like God had called me into
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But I went to Bible college with
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was questions of faith that I 
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this figured out because I want 
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And I'm going to build not just 
my eternity on this, but my life

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for however long God lets me 
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And so I signed up for classes 
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faith. 
And one of the very first books 

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that I got was a book called 
More Than a Carpenter. 

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And that book was written by his
father and he's actually 

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rewritten it alongside of your 
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So that's a little bit of my 
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So if you're a person who has 
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had questions. 
I still have questions. 

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What's a little bit? 
Tell us a little bit about your 

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faith journey. 
Yeah, so grew up in a Christian 

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home, as you can imagine, with a
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defending the faith. 
In the mid 90s I went to college

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and we had this new technology, 
maybe you've heard of it, called

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the Internet. 
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at that point on learning what, 
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and I come along this site 
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Christianity. 
In fact, they took my dad's 

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books chapter by chapter, 
doctors, lawyers, historians 

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responding. 
I read this and my heart sank, 

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Clayton for the first time. 
I was like, whoa, I don't know 

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how to answer this. 
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We're up in in the mountains of 
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And I remember, look at my dad 
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I'm probably 19. 
I said, dad, I want to know it's

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true, but I don't know that I'm 
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Now, if you're a Christian, how 
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kids or grandkids said that to 
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My dad looked at me. 
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great. 
And I said, did you hear 

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anything? 
I just said he goes, you can't 

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live on my faith. 
You've got to seek after truth. 

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And if you seek after truth, I'm
confident you'll fall Jesus 

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because Jesus is the truth and I
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And so God can take our 
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Jesus said love God with your 
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with your mind. 
God says to Isaiah, come, let us

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reason together. 
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questions because it's actually 
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Come on. 
So let's get into it right now. 

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There is a bunch of people who 
will say a whole bunch of things

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about the origin of the 
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mankind. 
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up the question this way. 
Is creation a product of God or 

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a result of random chance? 
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through the lens of of 
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complex creation alludes to, 
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Yeah. 
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the Bible starts with, in the 
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Created. 
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loving and just, the first thing
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creator. 
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and you are not an accident. 
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true? 
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you can look at the beginning of
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the beginner. 
We can look at the fine tune of 

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the laws of physics. 
But let's narrow down into the 

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micro, into what was discovered 
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Now, if you've you've seen 
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ladder that's kind of twisted 
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letters that are a part of the 
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Now let me put in context how 
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adult human body, which by the 
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Just for the record, I'm. 
I'm the, I'm the plus. 

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Size version. 
That was a compliment. 

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I always wanted to be 6/6. 
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body. 
I'm 59150. 

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I'm probably about as average as
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There's 30 trillion cells. 
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took it out, would be about 6 
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That means the DNA in the 
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go from here to the sun and back
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Now, how much information? 
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DNA in one cell in your body has
an equipment of 8000 books, 8000

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books. 
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it raises an interesting 
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Where did this come from? 
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information? 
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and trace it to its source, we 
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If your shirt has information, 
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If you get a text and it's 
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A blog from Blogger, a book from
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In fact, if we walk outside and 
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Coke and I'm from Southern 
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So I say, what is that? 
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happens here naturally when a 
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You wouldn't say that. 
We know that information traces 

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to a mind when we look inside 
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sophisticated information than 
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believe that happened by 
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I think the best explanation is 
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mind. 
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towards an information giver. 
DNA, I would argue, is like a 

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fingerprint of the divine for 
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to hear. 
Man, that is so good because 

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what we get pushed a lot of 
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get all, you know, time is God 
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because you said, oh, let's 
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this. 
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language, and that means that 
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communicating. 
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revealing himself to us. 
Next one. 

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OK, we'll do this one. 
Let's do it. 

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All right, Doctor Sean, I agree.
God exists, but I'm not a big 

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fan of him because if he is all 
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good things, why doesn't he stop
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Friends, this is the big 
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It's a question atheists ask 
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And if you're a follower of 
Jesus, you've asked this 

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question too. 
Habakkuk says, God, why do I see

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violence and you don't stop it? 
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you suffer, I am so sorry and my
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A Christian response in Romans 
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who are happy, be sad with those
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If you're suffering, I mourn 
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Second, realize God is big 
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suffering and for you to express
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So Psalms, there's 150 chapters 
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One of the most common psalms is
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People going to God like David 
saying, God, you've abandoned 

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me, God, where are you? 
God, what happened now? 

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The Psalms are rooted in 
hopefulness, but if you're 

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hurting or see somebody hurting,
it's not sinful to take that 

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emotions to God. 
God can take it. 

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He's there to be our comforter. 
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me share a story that might, 
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In the 1800s, there was a priest
by the name of Father Damien and

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he went to be a priest to care 
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Molokai in the Hawaiian chain. 
He showed up and he would pray 

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for them, he would preach to 
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He just loved them. 
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radically changed. 
He stood in front of him and he 

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said 2 words that changed 
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This priest stood in front of 
the leper colony, opened up his 

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robe, showed the first signs of 
leprosy and said, we lepers, 

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Father Damien had become a 
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No, Nesh, a few questions. 
Did they know that he cared for 

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them before he got leprosy? 
Of course, What changed on that 

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day? 
He was no longer an outsider. 

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He was somebody who stepped into
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first hand and literally laid 
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Next question, who is Jesus? 
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he got leprosy or after. 
And you know the answer, don't 

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you? 
In Christianity, God didn't just

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send a prophet. 
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creation. 
And you're right, it's a 

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language. 
He didn't doesn't just speak in 

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dreams or send a holy book. 
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Bible is, it is only in 
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into our suffering and 
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That's why Hebrews 2 and Hebrews
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understands. 
So if you're suffering because 

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your family's betrayed you, you 
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understand. 
He's like, yeah, I was betrayed 

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by my family and one of my 
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If you're physically suffering, 
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understand. 
He's kind of like, you know, I 

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was crucified. 
I get it so many ways. 

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When we ask where is God in our 
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only in Christianity that says 
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with us now. 
He doesn't leave us there. 

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God promises to redeem our 
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conquer it one day. 
That's why one of the most 

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powerful teachings in the Bible 
is Jesus, who's God in human 

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flesh. 
He's God in human flesh. 

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John chapter 1 experiences the 
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temptation that we do stands 
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Like what am I going to do with 
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Because I have power over life 
and death, and Jesus says you 

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have no power over me. 
I lay down my life and I pick it

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up again. 
That's where our hope comes 

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from, the resurrection of Jesus.
Sin has already been defeated. 

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Our suffering is going to end 
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for good. 
Knowing and believing that truth

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doesn't mean we escape 
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with us and gives us a hope 
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That is so good and I want to, I
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all the way in because he's 
saying that God brings purpose 

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out of your pain. 
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intervention, bring suffering to
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Some of you have been around and
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time God brings purpose out of 
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And the perfect example of that 
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The other part is part of the 
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in this world is because we're 
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If you wanted to stop the 
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kick out all of the teenagers 
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amount of suffering in your home
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want to guide them out of the 
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that they're in. 
All right, let's do, let's do 

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this one. 
We live in a world of relative 

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truth. 
We live in a world of my truth. 

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We are against exclusivity, but 
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He says that the only way to the
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Isn't that too exclusive for 
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way to get to God, the only way 
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OK so First off every belief 
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If you claim that A is true, it 
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not true. 
Islam is exclusivistic, Judaism 

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is exclusivistic, Buddhism is 
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You say, well what about 
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I was talking with the Hindu and
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Christianity is true, your 
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I said, OK, wait a minute, you 
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Hinduism and my beliefs fit 
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So you don't actually think 
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the Father, Son and Holy Spirit,
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So really, Hinduism is 
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Now, if I were to stand up here 
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way, take my word for it, you'd 
rightly be like, yeah, why 

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should I trust you? 
Sure, you got a little bit of 

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education, but we're talking 
about pretty important things 

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here. 
Who claimed to be the way, the 

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truth and the life and that no 
one gets the Father but by him 

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it's Jesus. 
So the question is, is this too 

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exclusivistic? 
Why should I listen to him? 

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One of the things that makes 
Jesus unique amongst religious 

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leaders is he didn't just say 
here's how you get to truth. 

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He didn't say here's how you 
experience salvation. 

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He didn't say here's how you 
find God. 

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He said I am the way, the truth 
and the life. 

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No one gets the Father but by me
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He was the virgin born, miracle 
working, sinless risen Savior. 

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That guy has a right to claim 
every other religious leader is 

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still in the grave. 
Jesus is the only one who said 

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ahead of time. 
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We see it in John 10. 
I lay down my life and I take it

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up again. 
We see in the beginning of Acts 

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that it was prophesied the 
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Psalm 1610 tells us distinctly 
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His chosen one. 
Jesus claims to be God and He 

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backs it up in a way no other 
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I'm going with that guy. 
Come on. 

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Definitely going with that guy. 
Yeah, the the answer to that is 

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Jesus is the only one who and 
then you start filling in the 

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blank. 
Why does Jesus make the 

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exclusive claim that he's the 
only one or only way to get to 

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the Father? 
It's because he's the only one 

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who can make those exclusive 
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He's the only one who was before
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He's the only one who spoke the 
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He's the only one who holds it 
all together, as it says in 

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Colossians. 
He's the only one who came and 

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lived a sinless life. 
He's the only one who died on 

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behalf of our sin. 
He's the only one who was 

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crucified and then three days 
later rose again like he's the 

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only one who, and when you're 
the only one who you get to make

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the exclusive claims. 
I am the only one who is married

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to Jennifer. 
That is an exclusive claim. 

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And I've got all the receipts to
back it up. 

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Literally thousands upon 
thousands of receipts to back it

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up. 
She doesn't send the bill to 

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anybody else. 
Now listen, that is not a 

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hurtful claim. 
That's a truthful claim. 

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When Jesus saying he's the only 
way, he is not making a hurtful 

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claim. 
He's making a loving. 

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Claim. 
Amen. 

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Because if you want to get to 
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Now this ties into the next 
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By the way, really quickly, 
Christianity is not an exclusive

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faith, it's an inclusive faith, 
meaning Jesus died for everyone 

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and invites everyone to 
repentance. 

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Buddhism mostly limited to 
China. 

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Hinduism mostly limited to 
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Islam mostly limited to the 
Middle East. 

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There are Christians following 
Jesus in every faith and 

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language and background in the 
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It truly is the most inclusive 
faith. 

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Come on now. 
So we're talking about faith. 

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OK, This is a a question that I 
remember wrestling with in my 

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early years of ministry. 
So graduated from college and 

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you're going to go Clayton. 
You must not have been doing as 

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good of a job in class as you 
should have. 

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So I'm going to if God or why 
doesn't God make himself more 

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obvious? 
Because if this is where we're 

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putting ourselves in, which is a
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So let's acknowledge it. 
If I was God, I would park, 

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disguise speaking this, you 
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me. 
And everybody would go, hey, I 

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think this is real. 
We probably ought to get this 

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figured out. 
Why doesn't God do that? 

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Totally fair question all of us 
at some point have been like God

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answer this prayer God make 
yourself more clear and then I 

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would believe I get it but 
Romans one tells us that God has

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made himself sufficiently clear.
We know this. 

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It's obvious because it's 
written into creation. 

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So God has made himself 
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creation, but we suppress it in 
unrighteousness for other 

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reasons. 
I think we also know God exists.

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Romans 2 through conscience. 
There's a moral law. 

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We know there's right and wrong,
and we know we've fallen short 

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of it. 
But that only makes sense. 

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There's a moral law if there's a
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So I think God has made himself 
sufficiently clear. 

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Nonetheless, we say, why does 
God make himself more obvious? 

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Well, here's the trade off is 
that the more obvious God makes 

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us, the more he kind of 
squelches our freedom. 

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So we're kind of forced to 
believe in God rather than 

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choose to believe in him. 
Out of relationship, he'd say, 

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yeah, but God, if he just did 
more obvious miracles, people 

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would believe. 
And I'd say maybe, maybe let me 

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give you 2 examples from the 
Bible. 

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Only in the Gospel, John, do we 
have the raising of Lazarus from

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the dead on the 4th day. 
By the way, there were people 

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watching this. 
Jesus shows up and they laugh at

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him, saying you're going to rise
him from the dead. 

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They raise him from the dead and
everybody repents. 

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Actually, you know, that's 
exactly how the story didn't go.

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They raised from that publicly. 
What do they want to do? 

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They want to kill Lazarus and 
run Jesus out of town. 

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It wasn't a lack of evidence, it
was something else. 

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How about the Old Testament you 
mentioned? 

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Like why doesn't God part the 
Red Sea he did or part some sea 

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he did for the Israelites? 
They saw all the 10 plagues and 

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the miracles manna from heaven. 
And then you go along in the 

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story, what do they do? 
They go up the mountain and they

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start worshipping a golden calf 
when Moses goes up the mountain.

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So more evidence doesn't 
necessarily mean people will 

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follow and worship God, which is
what God wants from us. 

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I struggled with this as well. 
My God, why don't you make 

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yourself more obvious? 
And I remember, I remember an 

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atheist on this website, now 
that I think about it, in the 

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90s, he said, if God really 
exists, why wouldn't he write on

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the moon Jesus lives or why 
wouldn't he write on the cell 

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made by Yahweh after we're after
all all our toys say like made 

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in China. 
Clayton, I studied DNA and I 

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stopped. 
I thought, you know what he did 

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with DNA. 
It's as if God has signed every 

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cell with evidence of His 
presence. 

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I understand the cry for more 
evidence. 

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It's human nature to do this. 
But don't let us miss how God 

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has made himself known in our 
moral conscience, in creation, 

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in miracles, in change lives, in
the Scripture, in the church for

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those with eyes to see and ears 
to hear. 

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God might not be as obvious as 
we would like, but he has 

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sufficiently made himself known.
If you're there, I would say, 

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God, make yourself real to me. 
Reveal yourself. 

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Be willing to repent of sin, get
into the scriptures and bring 

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your questions to God. 
God can take it. 

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That is so good and let me let 
me key in and put a couple more 

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things in your tool belt on this
one. 

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One, we are saved by faith 
through grace. 

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So there is an element of us 
that has to believe. 

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I don't have to believe that 
Jennifer exists. 

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I can see her. 
I don't have to trust that she 

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exists. 
I can see her. 

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And God tells us that the way we
please Him is by faith. 

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So there is an element of our 
walk with him that is sustained 

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and originates in the area of 
faith. 

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But watch this. 
God blesses that. 

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He looks at his followers who 
have seen him provide all kinds 

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of miracles. 
He says that you know you are 

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great. 
It's great that you guys 

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believe, but blessed are those 
who believe even though they 

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don't see. 
And what are we told that we 

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will get enjoy when we get to 
heaven? 

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Our faith will disappear because
we will have sight. 

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God has made Himself clear to 
people who are willing to look, 

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and He has made Himself 
available to those who are not 

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obstinate to belief in Him. 
But if you have a hardened 

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heart, it doesn't matter how 
many miracles you see, you still

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won't believe. 
In fact, in almost every big 

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atheist Christian debate, there 
comes that moment where 

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oftentimes the the the Christian
apologist will say, if God 

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parted the sea and opened the 
doors right now and he said all 

456
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this stuff to you, what would 
you think? 

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And he goes, well, then I would 
believe he goes, you sure you 

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wouldn't think you were having a
hallucination? 

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Because that is actually the 
claim that they put on all the 

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people who did see Jesus who had
rose from the dead. 

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00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,400
So even if you buy into their 
argument, they won't give it 

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over because their hearts are 
hard, they're rebellious, 

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they're wicked against the 
things of God. 

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All right, let me let me do 
this. 

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And would you guys give Sean a 
big round of applause? 

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Thank you so much. 
Thank. 

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You Jesus was with his disciples
ancestry of Philippi. 

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It was like the Lake of the 
Ozarks for the Middle East. 

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00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,400
It was where you went away to 
kind of have a good time with 

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your close friends. 
Not in a sinful way. 

471
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,560
I don't want to paint that in a 
bad way, but because I know you 

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00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,120
guys go to the lake and you lose
your Jesus. 

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But Jesus is with his disciples 
ancestry of Philippi and he 

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asked them in Matthew chapter 16
verse 14, who do you say that I 

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am? 
And their answer was, some say 

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John the Baptist, others say 
Elijah, and still others 

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00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:05,920
Jeremiah or one of the prophets.
A lot of people that you know, 

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they have a different view of 
Jesus than maybe you do, 

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00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,400
depending on where you're 
watching or where you're reading

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00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,720
or what you're scrolling 
through. 

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You'll say, you'll see some 
people say that Jesus was a 

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fictional character. 
Some will say that he was a 

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prophet. 
There'll be some who will say he

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was a really good teacher. 
There'll be some who will say he

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was a charismatic leader. 
Others will say he was just a 

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mid, a misunderstood 1st century
Jew. 

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And all of this is a bunch of 
hoopla about nothing. 

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But Jesus didn't end the 
conversation there. 

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The next verse, Matthew 16, 
verse 15, Jesus said, but what 

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about you? 
Who do you say I am? 

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The question today is not what 
do others believe about Jesus, 

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00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,520
but what do you believe about 
Jesus? 

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When you stand before God, he's 
not going to give you a pop quiz

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00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,320
on what all of your friends and 
family and neighbors thought 

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00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,760
about Jesus. 
He's going to say, what do you 

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00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,320
believe about Jesus? 
Simon Peter raises his hand, 

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00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:18,800
verse 16, and he answered, you 
are the Christ, the Son of the 

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living God. 
And Peter's answer was the right

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one. 
He realized that Jesus was the 

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Christ, the anointed one, the 
promised Messiah, God in the 

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flesh, who was going to deliver 
people not just from the penalty

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00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,400
of their sin, but save them from
their sins and bring them into a

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00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,840
right relationship with his 
heavenly Father. 

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And you might be thinking right 
now, easy for Peter. 

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00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,640
He was there. 
He saw all of this take place. 

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00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,040
I want you to hear me say this. 
Yeah, I know. 

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00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,760
And do you know what he did? 
He died taking his eyewitness 

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00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:02,200
testimony to the nation's. 
Hear me When we talk about 

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00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,480
placing our faith in Jesus, I'm 
not discounting the fact that it

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00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,440
is a step of faith, but it is a 
reasoned faith. 

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00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,600
When I say a reasoned faith, I'm
saying there are reasons, 

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really, really good reasons to 
believe that Jesus is the 

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Christ. 
There are eyewitness accounts 

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not just of his life, but also 
of his death and resurrection. 

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00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,200
In fact, Jesus appeared to over 
500 people after his 

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00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,760
resurrection. 
The biblical text, it can stand 

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up to critics and it can hold up
to skeptics. 

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00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,800
The evidence for the existence 
of God not only stands up to 

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00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,520
scrutiny, but it delivers the 
very best and most reliable 

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00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,080
answers. 
I believe the best answer for 

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00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,160
the beginning of the universe is
found in God. 

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00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,520
The fine tuning of the universe,
that answer is found in God. 

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00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,160
How do we explain the laws of 
nature, the existence of 

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00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,320
objective moral values? 
Those are all rooted and found 

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00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,000
in God. 
And that is before you count the

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00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,120
countless lives that have been 
transformed, changed, redeemed 

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00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:10,360
and repurposed, of which I'm 1. 
And so are you. 

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00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,360
And you might be saying, but I 
don't know everything. 

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00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,320
Yeah, I get it. 
You don't know everything. 

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00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,960
But you know enough. 
Hear me? 

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00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,160
How many of you fellas here help
me out? 

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00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,280
You know everything there is to 
know about women. 

533
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,200
Raise your hand. 
Yeah. 

534
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,240
Someone, someone just got saved 
here at 48th St. 

535
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,920
Yeah. 
Nobody knows everything there is

536
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,520
to know about what? 
But raise your hand if you want 

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00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,720
one or you're glad you have one.
If you didn't raise your hand 

538
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,040
there, that was a You're going 
to be buying some expensive 

539
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,520
stuff before the day's over. 
OK. 

540
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,000
You got to stay awake. 
I got Jennifer here. 

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00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,760
I still to this day do not know 
everything there is to know 

542
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,160
about her, but I knew enough 
about her to know that I wanted 

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00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,800
to spend the rest of my life 
with her. 

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00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,360
It makes sense to me that a God 
who created the world, set the 

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00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,840
stars in place, wrote the laws 
of nature, moved the mountains 

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00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,480
into place, is big enough to 
hold the waters of the ocean, 

547
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,400
and the palm of His hands might 
be a little too big for me to 

548
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:22,000
completely wrap my mind around. 
But I know enough to know that I

549
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,640
need Him. 
I know enough to know that I 

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00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,680
want Him. 
And I know enough to know I 

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00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,560
don't want to spend another day 
of my life without Him. 

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00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,520
And if you're here today and 
you've never started that 

553
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,680
relationship with Jesus Christ, 
it's time for you to think about

554
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,680
it. 
And if you're here today and 

555
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,280
you're going, you know what? 
It's time for me to start living

556
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,640
my life in alignment with the 
faith that I actually profess. 

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00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,600
I'm so glad you're here today. 
And that's why we're going into 

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00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,320
this time of decision. 
And we're going to do, Yeah, 

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00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,640
thank you guys. 
We're going to do something we 

560
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,640
don't get to do all that often. 
And that is I'm getting to stay 

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00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,520
live at all of our locations. 
And thank you so much for 

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00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,200
staying connected with us. 
And let me just talk for just a 

563
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,200
second to those of you gathering
all across this region who have 

564
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,320
never started an intimate 
personal relationship with Jesus

565
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,320
Christ. 
You see, God is not just great 

566
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,520
and powerful and majestic and 
mighty, He is also good. 

567
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,560
So good in fact, that He did not
make us get right. 

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00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,280
And then we could go to him and 
said He came down to make us 

569
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,840
right so we could be with Him. 
Romans chapter 5 verse 8 says 

570
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,880
this, but God demonstrates His 
own love for us and this that 

571
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,920
while we were still sinners, 
Christ died for us. 

572
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,520
In other words, salvation was 
His idea. 

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00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,640
He did it before you drew your 
first breath, before you 

574
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,200
committed your first sin, before
you rejected His Son, abandoned 

575
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,840
his purpose for you, and He 
still sent his Son to the cross 

576
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,640
anyway to bring you back to Him.
And in just a few moments, at 

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00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,280
all of our locations, when the 
people stand and sing and people

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00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,800
come to the steps and pray. 
If you're here today and you've 

579
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,120
never started an intimate, 
personal relationship with Jesus

580
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,960
Christ, your next move is to 
talk to somebody about that. 

581
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,000
And at all of our locations next
to the baptistry, there's going 

582
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,639
to be a campus pastor or 
somebody who would love a chance

583
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,480
to talk with you, and I hope 
you'll do it. 

584
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,120
And to those of you who do have 
a relationship with Jesus 

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00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,840
Christ, my prayer for you is 
simple. 

586
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,000
May your faith in God inspire 
you to greater devotion, to 

587
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,960
greater obedience and greater 
participation in the mission of 

588
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,320
God. 
May it strengthen you in your 

589
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,520
prayers and guide you through 
your darkest valleys. 

590
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:40,320
Would you guys stand with me? 
Heavenly Father, you know 

591
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,800
exactly what every single one of
us needs to do in this moment 

592
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,520
right now, and I'm asking that 
You would lead us, guide us, 

593
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,199
direct us, and empower us to 
take the steps that we 

594
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:56,560
desperately need to take. 
In Your name, I pray. 

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00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:57,880
Amen.
