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Hey man, how you doing crossing 
church? 

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It is so good to see you. 
You. 

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Guys are already amped up. 
I don't even have to ask you 

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twice. 
That's awesome. 

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And I mean, how can you not be 
after you watch 44? 

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That's just incredible, you 
know? 

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And you know what we call that 
at the crossing we call. 

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That last weekend. 
I mean, that's what God does. 

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I mean. 
He is just working. 

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He's moving. 
He's, he's changing hearts and 

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lives. 
And you know the thing about 

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that? 
Is that you know that that's not

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just. 
Affecting them that that's 

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affecting a whole generation of 
people, That's. 

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Affecting families and extended 
families and that, that. 

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Decision that's made is just 
having this repercussion. 

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You know, we we often think 
about like the sins in our lives

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are like when we throw a rock in
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Water and you see these ripples.
Going out. 

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And that affects other people, 
but so do these wonderful 

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blessings that happened to us 
that we allow. 

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God to work in us. 
They also go out like that and 

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they. 
Affect so many people in such a 

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positive. 
And I'll tell you something else

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that's great is. 
I get to preach Romans 9 today, 

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and you know, some people might 
not think that's great because 

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Romans 9 takes us into some 
really deep water. 

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Into some into some deep 
understanding of God of his. 

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Word of the understanding of God
and and so I really want you to 

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to dive. 
In deep with me, OK, I'm going 

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to. 
I'll be tied to my notes a lot 

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because. 
Because. 

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Romans 9 is heady stuff. 
It's deep. 

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Strong stuff, but it will enrich
you in your faith and in your 

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understanding of God. 
I want to welcome all of our. 

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Campuses joining from all over 
the region, if you're. 

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Inside and online, we're 
thankful for you. 

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As well and excited to be able 
to share this. 

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With you. 
So when we get to Romans 9, Paul

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he dives deeper into. 
Understanding God, then many of 

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us may even want to go. 
I mean, we might like that more 

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superficial. 
Understanding of God, but we're 

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going to go down deep and the 
things he's teaching us goes to 

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like. 
Deep questions in our hearts, 

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like why bad? 
Things happen to people and why 

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do they? 
Why do innocent people suffer? 

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What choices or control do I 
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Have in my life. 
I expect those are. 

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Questions that all of you at one
time or another. 

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Have asked internally, maybe 
even to other people, and 

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answers have been hard to come 
by for the Apostle Paul. 

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That that internal question was 
breaking his. 

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And when we start in Romans 9, 
we'll see that. 

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So look. 
At verse one with me I speak the

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truth in Christ. 
I am not lying. 

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My conscience confirms it. 
Through the Holy Spirit I have 

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great sorrow. 
And unceasing anguish in my 

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heart for I. 
Wish that I myself listen to how

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powerful this is. 
I wish. 

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That I myself were cursed. 
And cut off from Christ for the 

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sake. 
Of my people, those of my own 

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race, the people of Israel, 
theirs is the adoption. 

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To son sonship. 
There's the divine glory, the 

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covenants, the receiving of the 
law, the temple worship and the 

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promises. 
There's are the patriarchs. 

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And from them is trace the human
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God over all, forever praised. 
Amen. 

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What the anguish is in Paul's 
heart is why could these people 

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of his not see who Jesus for he 
for who he really was? 

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Why was there there this barrier
to keep? 

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Them from accepting the truth of
Jesus. 

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Being the Son of God and the 
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they? 
Listen to him and that. 

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Really wasn't just a question 
for his race, they were internal

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questions. 
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Had in his heart about himself, 
because. 

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When we go back to his 
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You could ask the same 
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Why couldn't Paul see the Jesus 
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Was until he was blinded on this
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Why had he missed what seems so 
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Now, maybe some of you've asked 
yourself that question. 

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Why did it take? 
Me so long to be able to. 

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Figure this out. 
Or to to be able to just 

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surrender to it and trust Jesus?
I mean, why did I? 

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Why did I miss so much in the 
past where I tried to? 

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Live life on my own terms and 
not just accept it back then, he

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goes on to give. 
Illustrations in Romans 9 from 

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the Old Testament about God's 
promises and He He says that 

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God's. 
Promises came through Isaac, but

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not Ishmael. 
They came through Jacob. 

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But not esaw. 
And the question that rises out 

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of that is why is it that seems 
that God would? 

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Choose some people and leave. 
Others out in the cold, How 

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could Paul make? 
Sense of this. 

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How can we make sense of this? 
Why did we get to be? 

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Born in a country with so much 
opportunity and so many people 

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are born in parts of the world 
where there is. 

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So little opportunity. 
Why is life so? 

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How could a good God have? 
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Don't you think that? 
Question is being asked all over

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the world today. 
Those are some. 

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Seriously deep questions and 
Bible scholars have been 

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debating those. 
Questions for years, and it 

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really boils down to two schools
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first one being that God. 
Determines everything in 

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advance, so there really. 
Are no choices. 

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And in in whatever you're doing,
you're just. 

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Playing out with God 
predetermined or there's a 

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belief. 
That God does not predetermine 

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things and we are subject to all
the choices. 

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That we make and people have 
attached labels to those schools

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of. 
Thought those opposing positions

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and some of the labels you may 
have heard before would be like.

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Calvinism and Armenianism. 
Those were named after two 

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different. 
Theologians Armenius and Calvin.

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John Calvin, But actually, that 
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Them by 1400 years so even 
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Kind of got the names of those 
that really, it really wasn't 

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just. 
Them so let's this is going to. 

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Get dealt with in Romans 9. 
So let's dive down into it. 

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Look at verses 14. 
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What then, shall we say is? 
God unjust not at all for he. 

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Says to Moses, I'll have mercy 
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compassion on whom I have 
compassion. 

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It does not, therefore, depend 
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But on God's mercy for this. 
For and and so let's go on. 

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It says for Scripture says to 
Pharaoh, I raised you up for 

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this very. 
Purpose that I might display my 

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power in you, and that my name 
might be proclaimed in all the 

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earth therefore God has. 
Mercy on whom he wants to have 

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mercy and he hardens whom he 
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Now that sounds a lot to me like
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everything. 
I read that in Romans 9. 

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I kind of hold that up and I'm 
like and it sure sounds like 

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that's what Paul thought because
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To the next 5 verses 19 to 24. 
Well, just let's just read it. 

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Together, one of you will say to
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Well then, God, why does God? 
Still, blame us for who is able 

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to resist his. 
Will I'm only doing what God 

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predetermined for me to do, 
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But who are? 
You, a human being to talk back 

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to God, shall what is formed say
to the One who. 

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Formed it. 
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Does not the Potter have the 
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To make out of the same lump of 
clay some pottery for special 

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purposes. 
And some for common use. 

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What if God although choosing to
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Wrath, to make his power known, 
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objects of his wrath prepared 
for destruction. 

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What if he did this to make the 
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Of His glory known to the 
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prepared in advance for glory. 
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not only from the Jews, but 
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From the Gentiles? 
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Does that mean that we really 
don't have any choices and we're

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just? 
Playing out what God has 

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predetermined for us to do. 
Now I want you to remember some 

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rules that we established. 
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And one of those big rules was 
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Context is king, and it really 
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What is the context of this 
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Well, it's Paul. 
Answering his own question, What

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is what? 
Why has God? 

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Been in this relationship with 
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People and they don't seem to 
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is. 
And his anguish in his heart. 

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So it's. 
Really answering Paul's 

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question, not yours. 
Why do? 

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Jewish people not recognize 
Jesus as the Messiah. 

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What is he saying in that those 
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First, he's making it clear that
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And we're not, And I don't think
any of us would argue with that.

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Even if we think we could do 
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oftentimes we do, we're like, 
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God, we don't say it that way. 
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that's kind of what we're 
implying. 

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Second, Paul doesn't actually 
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Predetermining heaven or hell 
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They were born or that they had 
no control over their actions if

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you read it. 
Again, you'll see that he's 

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forming them as questions. 
He's saying, what if God had 

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prepared objects for wrath or 
destruction? 

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And what if God had prepared 
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He doesn't say that he did. 
He says. 

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Well, what if he did, and he's 
what he's? 

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Doing is He's reestablishing the
fact that God has an 

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indisputable right to make 
choices. 

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No one else has that right. 
He can do whatever he. 

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What do we learn from that point
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Only that, God. 
Is the only one who has an 

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indisputable right. 
To make those choices because. 

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He and he alone is the sovereign
of the universe. 

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But where does that leave us? 
Are we just puppets on a string 

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that God has created to amuse 
himself? 

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Is God so cruel as to 
predetermined people to be 

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homicidal? 
Child molesters, abusers and 

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every other vile. 
Can I believe that some are 

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shaped by God? 
For that very thing. 

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And then when we're left with 
this idea that God is who he is.

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And maybe we just can't 
understand the infinite mind of 

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God. 
Maybe we just have to just. 

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Punt and say I just. 
I don't get it, but I'm just 

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going to believe in God, even 
though I I don't get it. 

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So there's some problems with 
this idea. 

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Well, there. 
Certainly is to me in our desire

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to understand the greatness of 
God through his. 

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The fact that he controls 
everything. 

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What have we done to the 
goodness of God? 

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When I was a little child, our 
family started out in the 

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Methodist Church and when I was 
a little child, we were taught 

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to pray before we ate our meals.
And we didn't have to come up 

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with our own prayers. 
We were taught a prayer to pray.

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And the prayer that I learned to
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When I was just a little little 
boy was this God is great. 

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God is good. 
And we thank him for our food. 

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By his hand we must be fed. 
Give us, Lord. 

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Our Daily Bread. 
Amen. 

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How many of you remember that or
heard that? 

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Yeah, a lot of you. 
Yeah. 

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Okay. 
Well, let me tell. 

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You in that little tiny prayer, 
there is incredibly powerful 

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theology, because what it's 
doing is it's. 

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Showing you the duality of the 
nature of God, God is. 

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Two things. 
He's not only one. 

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He's two things. 
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He is great and he is good. 
Defining the quality of his 

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nature. 
His power over. 

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Everything and yet. 
He is an incredibly good God. 

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And if God is good, how could 
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Predetermine these obviously 
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Because when you go down that 
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more God's fault and not my 
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And that's really what Paul 
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Out in Romans 9. 
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Why? 
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this is what God is? 
How he's made us. 

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Also I have. 
This big problem with the idea 

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of loving God if I if I. 
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predestination because love is 
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Like I can't be made to love 
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made to love me. 
Like I don't have any choice. 

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It's always a choice. 
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choice that. 
We make and we're told to love 

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God in. 
Return that he loved us first. 

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And that we should love him in 
return. 

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Saying that God preprogrammed 

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certain people to love. 
Him and others not to love him? 

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I have some big issues with that
first reality or that first 

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theology. 
Now we've already covered this 

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idea of faith and belief and 
that being that's what God 

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requires to receive. 
This incredible gift of grace, 

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right? 
You remember that way? 

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And Abraham believed God, and it
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righteousness he believed. 
Him or He had faith in him, and 

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it was credited as. 
Righteousness. 

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The question is, was that faith 
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Abraham made, or was it 
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him? 
Did Abraham have any part to 

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play in that? 
Now let's kind of move to this 

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other side, this other. 
Now if I choose to believe in 

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free will or in my own ability 
to make choices, it. 

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Solves some of these problems 
like it helps. 

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Me to understand that God didn't
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It was their own choices or my 
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That made them or me, who I am 
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So the fault. 
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It's not God's, so that solves 
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It also solves the love issue 
because I can choose to love God

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or As. 
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belief in him, but if I go down 
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what does that? 
Do to my understanding of God's 

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greatness and his sovereignty 
and his absolute rule, what do I

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do with? 
Ideas like foreknowledge that 

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God would actually know things 
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So you can see, can't you, why 
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years? 
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Deep and it's hard and it's 
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Isn't just some theological 
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It goes right into your heart 
and your life, right? 

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Because you're like, why do 
these? 

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Bad things happen. 
Why did this? 

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Happen to me how? 
How's their? 

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Fairness in this and yeah, well 
to. 

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Understand this better. 
We need to go back to the 

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beginning. 
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I'm talking about creation 
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That you begin to understand the
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you were made. 
So I want us to look at. 

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Genesis 126 to 28 OK, so this 
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God creating human beings. 
In verse 26 it says Then God 

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said let us make mankind in our 
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Well, that's powerful. 
Like a reflection of God in our 

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likeness, so that they may say 
that word rule. 

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Now that's a sovereignty word. 
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And you all know that they may 
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the birds of the sky, over the 
livestock. 

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And all the wild animals and 
over all the creatures. 

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That move along the ground, so 
God created. 

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Mankind in his own image, in the
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Male and female He created them 
and God bless them and said to 

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them, be fruitful and increase 
in number, fill the earth and 

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subdue it. 
What's the next word rule over 

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the? 
Fish of the sea and the birds in

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the sky. 
And over every living creature 

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that moves on the ground. 
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tells us that we. 
Were made in God's image, but 

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that we also have God's 
attributes because. 

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We're the children of God, and 
it uses a specific word to tell 

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us. 
That and that is the word rule, 

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and in two contexts it said 
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In those verses. 
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created for it, that he created 
us to rule. 

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And he then commanded us to do 
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He commanded us to rule those 
passages. 

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Inform you who you truly are, 
and here's what it. 

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Boils down to you don't have 
control over everything, but you

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do have control over some 
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In other words, God. 
And only God has an indisputable

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right to make choices. 
He's the sovereign, but if he 

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chooses to. 
He can share that rule. 

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He can. 
Share that sovereignty, and part

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of us being made in His image 
was him sharing that. 

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With us and giving us a measure 
of control. 

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Not all control, but just a. 
Measure of it now, at the time 

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in the garden. 
All of those things were in 

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perfect alignment to what God 
was doing. 

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In other words, God's will and 
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And whatever human beings were 
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They were in total harmony, in 
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So our. 
Choices in the context of God's 

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sovereignty was the same. 
And then sin came into the 

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world. 
Now Paul talked about that in 

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the last half of Romans chapter 
5. 

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And that is when our choices and
it was a. 

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Choice that was made whether or 
not to eat of the tree of the 

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knowledge of good and evil. 
That is when our choices went 

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out of sync with. 
God's sovereignty and God's 

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choices We were. 
Out of alignment with God. 

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Now we have a language for that 
at the. 

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Crossing and We've been using 
this language for a number of 

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years. 
And I learned it from a great 

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friend of mine, Randy Frazee. 
He's been up on this stage and 

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he's preached before up here. 
And he was the one that pinned 

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this language and I thought it 
was brilliant and we adopted. 

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So I'm giving him the credit for
it, but we call it the upper 

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story and the lower story, 
right, you'll hear us talk 

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about. 
Living, trying to live in the 

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upper story and living. 
Down in this lower story. 

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Let me explain to you what that 
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I'll define it. 
God's upper story has. 

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Never and will never change. 
It's as unchangeable as God 

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himself is. 
It's full of love. 

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And order and purpose and 
meaning. 

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And there is nothing in the 
upper story that will. 

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Harm us, says so in. 
Jeremiah 2911 This is what it 

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says, for I know the plans I 
have for you, declares the Lord.

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Plans to prosper you? 
And not to harm you plans to 

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give you hope and a future there
is, absolutely. 

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Nothing in the upper story that.
Any of us ever can change, not 

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by choice and not by action, 
when God said he was going to 

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send his son into the world to 
solve the problem. 

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Of sin there was absolutely. 
Nothing or no one on this earth 

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that could change that. 
Even in the smallest amount, 

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when Jesus said that, he was. 
Going to return and take his 

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people. 
Home with him and that date is 

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somewhere out there on the 
calendar. 

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Could be today we. 
Don't know there is, absolutely.

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Nothing in the universe that 
can. 

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Stop it from happening because 
God asserts his sovereign. 

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Control over that and there's so
many other choices. 

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That God has already made part 
of the upper story. 

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That none of us can do anything 
about, nor should we, because 

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it's all good. 
Nothing in God's upper story is 

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changeable. 
But then there is our lower 

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stories. 
What a mess our lower stories, 

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these are where our choices. 
Come in and also all sorts of 

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difficulties. 
And challenges and chaos and 

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pain all connected to it. 
And our choices can hurt us. 

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And they can hurt others. 
But it will not change God's 

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upper story plan. 
And so we live. 

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In this tension between the 
upper story and the lower story,

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and when we come to believe in 
Jesus, what we try to do is. 

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Make choices that are in 
alignment to God's upper story, 

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not our lower story. 
We want to become more like him 

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and less like ourselves. 
We want to live in a way that he

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wants us to live, and not the 
way that we might choose to live

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ourselves what we're. 
Trying to do is make decisions 

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and choices that reflect. 
What it was like in the garden 

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before sin came into the world. 
That's what we're. 

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Trying to do and of course we 
fail. 

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All the time at that in 
Galatians 5 when we read about 

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the fruits of the spirit, love, 
joy, peace, patience. 

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Kindness, gentleness, goodness, 
faithfulness, and self-control, 

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all of those flow. 
Out of an alignment with the 

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upper story. 
In Paul's case, Israel's 

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unwillingness to believe in 
Jesus, their lower stories 

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their. 
Choices in the lower story. 

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Brought about an opportunity for
the rest of the world to believe

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in Jesus. 
Gentiles, most of us, you and 

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me, see God's. 
Plan God's upper story Was that 

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the gospel. 
Of Jesus Christ was not going to

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just be for some people. 
It was going to be for 

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everybody, whether or not some 
people chose not to believe it. 

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Or even nations chose not to 
believe it was immaterial 

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because because. 
God's upper story plan was never

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going to change. 
It was always part of God's. 

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Plan Look at verse 25 and 26 in 
Romans 9 as he. 

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Says in Hosea. 
I will call them my people who 

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are not my people. 
I will call. 

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Her My beloved one who was not 
my beloved one, and in the very 

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place where it was. 
Said to them, you are not my 

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people. 
There they will be called. 

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Children of the living God? 
Yeah. 

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Are you seeing that even before?
Jesus came into the world. 

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God is. 
Declaring his upper story plan 

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that it wasn't just going to be 
for one people, but it was going

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to be for all people. 
And nothing can change that. 

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Now you can take a breath, 
because that's an awful lot to 

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digest. 
I told you we were going to. 

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Be in the deep water that we 
were going to be. 

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Cutting red meat in this one, 
right? 

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And so, yeah, that's a lot. 
But I want you to. 

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I want to leave you with an 
illustration that'll help you to

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understand this better. 
Back in verse 17, the Apostle 

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Paul. 
Used the example of Pharaoh in 

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Egypt and most of you have. 
Seen the Prince of Egypt, you 

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know, or you've seen the 10 
Commandments, or you've read it.

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So, so you know this story about
the Israelites sold into 

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slavery? 
In Egypt for over 400 years and 

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then Moses rises up God. 
Brings Moses up burning Bush all

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that. 
Then Moses goes to Pharaoh and 

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he says. 
Let my people go, God's will. 

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Was that the nation of Israel 
would be delivered. 

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Out of the hands of slavery and 
go to the promised land. 

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That was his upper story plan. 
Nothing was going to change 

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that, right? 
Except for Pharaoh. 

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Had a different idea, so when? 
Moses told Pharaoh. 

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Let my people go, Pharaoh said. 
No, not doing it. 

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That was Pharaoh's choice. 
That was his lower story idea 

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and so. 
You know what happened? 

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There were 10 plagues, and bit 
by bit it whittled. 

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Down the resolve of the 
Egyptians until they did let the

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nation of Israel go. 
And Moses led them out. 

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Of bondage and led them to the 
promised land Right if you go 

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back. 
And you read the narrative in 

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the book of Exodus. 
It's. 

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Pretty interesting what you're 
going to read, because those 

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plagues are divided up. 
And at the beginning, when you 

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read it, it'll say. 
That Moses said this and then 

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it'll say. 
And Pharaoh hardened his heart. 

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That Pharaoh hardened his heart.
Later on in the later plagues 

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you read. 
The same narrative, only it says

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and. 
God hardened Pharaoh's heart. 

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So which is it? 
Was Pharaoh? 

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Making a choice or was God. 
Predetermining it? 

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Which was it? 
Let me give you this 

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illustration. 
It's been pretty hot around 

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00:28:09,870 --> 00:28:11,390
here, hasn't it? 
Amen. 

461
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:16,950
Yeah, so let's say you. 
Know yesterday the day before is

462
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:20,950
like I don't know 103 degrees 
and say I have a table like. 

463
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:25,150
This, and I would take it out 
onto my driveway, your driveway.

464
00:28:25,470 --> 00:28:34,430
And in one hand I would have a 
lump of wax and I would shape 

465
00:28:34,430 --> 00:28:37,030
this wax. 
Into a ball okay. 

466
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,680
And then I would take it out of 
the. 

467
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Air conditioning out into the 
driveway onto this table and I 

468
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,960
would set it here. 
On the table and at the same 

469
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,000
time that I was doing the lump 
of wax, I would also be doing. 

470
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,360
A lump of modeling Clay and I 
took. 

471
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,040
That modeling Clay and I formed 
it into a ball and I set it 

472
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,120
over. 
Here and on a bright sunny 100 

473
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,850
and three degree day. 
What's going to happen? 

474
00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:11,730
What's going to happen to the 
wax? 

475
00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:14,690
Say it. 
And what's going to happen to 

476
00:29:14,690 --> 00:29:19,210
the clay? 
So what? 

477
00:29:19,450 --> 00:29:24,290
And is the sun changing? 
Is the sun saying I'm going to 

478
00:29:24,290 --> 00:29:28,090
make the wax do this and I'm 
going to make the clay do this? 

479
00:29:28,250 --> 00:29:30,730
No, the sun is just. 
Shining, right. 

480
00:29:30,970 --> 00:29:34,170
Just shining. 
It's it's just bright and hot. 

481
00:29:36,610 --> 00:29:40,050
And this is the point. 
It is the substance of the 

482
00:29:40,050 --> 00:29:43,050
material that determines what 
happens to it. 

483
00:29:43,530 --> 00:29:46,250
It's the substance of the wax 
that. 

484
00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:49,170
Determines that it is going to 
melt. 

485
00:29:49,210 --> 00:29:53,650
It's the substance of the. 
Clay that determines whether 

486
00:29:53,690 --> 00:29:58,490
that it's going to harden. 
And what you see in the story of

487
00:29:58,490 --> 00:30:02,290
Pharaoh is this that Pharaoh. 
Made a choice. 

488
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,120
And he made a choice about what 
the substance of. 

489
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,920
His heart was going to be, and 
the choice that he made was that

490
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,440
He hardened his heart. 
He said this. 

491
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:19,800
Heart is going to be clay. 
And so, as this narrative goes 

492
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,840
on, Pharaoh has just solidified 
this idea that he was going to 

493
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,850
be resistant to. 
The upper story plan of God, 

494
00:30:28,130 --> 00:30:31,570
That heart of clay it got. 
Harder and harder, and the 

495
00:30:31,570 --> 00:30:37,930
effect of God on Pharaoh's heart
was too hard in his heart, but 

496
00:30:37,930 --> 00:30:40,370
Pharaoh could have said I'll 
have a heart of wax. 

497
00:30:41,610 --> 00:30:46,050
It didn't matter what, Pharaoh. 
Was going to do God was going to

498
00:30:46,050 --> 00:30:49,290
deliver his people, Period. 
Nothing was going to change it. 

499
00:30:50,770 --> 00:30:52,730
Pharaoh was just. 
Getting in the way, Instead of 

500
00:30:52,730 --> 00:30:56,360
being In Sync with the will of 
God, he was outside the will of.

501
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,120
And that's why his heart was. 
Hardened instead of melting. 

502
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,960
Pharaoh had a choice. 
Whether to lean into God or away

503
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,000
from God, Pharaoh determined the
substance of his heart. 

504
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:19,680
But God never changed. 
What is the substance of your 

505
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,820
heart? 
We were having a devotional this

506
00:31:24,820 --> 00:31:27,820
morning. 
Katie Hollensteiner leading this

507
00:31:27,820 --> 00:31:30,740
devotional for. 
Communion. 

508
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:36,580
And she was reading some of that
Scripture and referring to some 

509
00:31:36,580 --> 00:31:40,980
of that scripture. 
And I started thinking about my 

510
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:50,100
heart, that there are areas. 
In my heart that I'm determining

511
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:56,430
the substance of and I'd like to
be able. 

512
00:31:56,430 --> 00:31:58,430
To say that my whole heart is 
wax. 

513
00:31:59,950 --> 00:32:02,950
And I would, and I just. 
I'm just moldable and meltable 

514
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:06,790
before my Heavenly Father. 
But I can't say that because. 

515
00:32:06,790 --> 00:32:09,150
There are certain areas in my 
heart that are hard and. 

516
00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:17,420
When I'm doing that, the got the
effect. 

517
00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:21,510
That God has on me. 
If I continue to make that 

518
00:32:21,510 --> 00:32:23,910
choice, it's going to have a 
very detrimental effect on me 

519
00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:29,270
and it will on you as well. 
So to me, I think that's the 

520
00:32:29,270 --> 00:32:33,950
question. 
You have an opportunity to make 

521
00:32:33,950 --> 00:32:36,310
that choice today. 
Will you look up to the upper 

522
00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:38,830
story? 
Will you make your choice 

523
00:32:38,830 --> 00:32:42,470
aligned to God's or will you 
stay down in your lower story 

524
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:47,670
and harden your heart again 
because the sun is shining on 

525
00:32:47,670 --> 00:32:48,230
you? 
Now? 

526
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,240
What will you do? 
We're moving to a time of 

527
00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:05,080
decision. 
It's a very convicting sermon to

528
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,720
me. 
I don't know if it is to you, 

529
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:14,960
but it's very convicting to me 
because when I look into my own 

530
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,850
heart I just see that. 
There's a lot of inconsistency 

531
00:33:20,850 --> 00:33:26,370
there and I really don't want it
to be that way, but. 

532
00:33:26,450 --> 00:33:28,130
Some of those things are hard to
give up. 

533
00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:32,290
Some of those things, and the 
longer that I've allowed my 

534
00:33:32,290 --> 00:33:35,090
heart to be hard in those areas,
the harder it is to give it up, 

535
00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:38,490
the more reinforcement. 
That I have. 

536
00:33:40,290 --> 00:33:44,090
When I was in college, there was
a singer-songwriter who wrote a 

537
00:33:44,090 --> 00:33:47,170
song. 
That really affected me. 

538
00:33:48,430 --> 00:33:50,710
And I'm not going to sing it for
you, but I will give you the 

539
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:54,110
words of it. 
He said. 

540
00:33:54,110 --> 00:33:58,550
My eyes are dry, My faith is 
old. 

541
00:33:59,630 --> 00:34:04,870
My heart is hard. 
My prayers are cold. 

542
00:34:06,230 --> 00:34:10,270
And I know how I ought to be 
alive to you. 

543
00:34:11,670 --> 00:34:16,469
And dead to me. 
And then he his chorus is. 

544
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,520
What can be done for an old 
heart like mine? 

545
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:31,159
Soften it up with oil. 
And wine, The oil is you, your 

546
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:36,199
spirit of love. 
Please wash me anew in the wine 

547
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:46,330
of your blood, you. 
Don't have to resign yourself to

548
00:34:46,330 --> 00:34:50,570
the choices of your past because
your heart. 

549
00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:58,490
And my heart are still at the 
disposal of God if we choose to.

550
00:34:58,490 --> 00:35:03,490
Let him have it. 
So what I would like for you to 

551
00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:05,570
think about today if you're 
here? 

552
00:35:06,570 --> 00:35:10,570
And you have never come in to an
intimate, personal relationship 

553
00:35:10,570 --> 00:35:15,130
with Jesus like the Bible says. 
You may have a heart of. 

554
00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:19,540
But God and only God through 
Jesus. 

555
00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:22,900
Christ can take a heart of stone
and turn it into a heart of 

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00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:25,820
flesh. 
There's going to be somebody 

557
00:35:25,820 --> 00:35:28,260
right over there by the 
baptistry that would. 

558
00:35:28,260 --> 00:35:32,140
Love nothing more than to talk 
to you about those next steps. 

559
00:35:32,540 --> 00:35:34,340
What would it? 
Be like to become a follower of 

560
00:35:34,460 --> 00:35:37,980
Jesus, as inconsistent, as 
hypocritical as we all. 

561
00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:42,020
Are he knows that, but we're his
children. 

562
00:35:43,820 --> 00:35:47,950
I encourage you to make that 
decision today if you've already

563
00:35:47,950 --> 00:35:51,110
made a decision. 
To make Jesus Christ your Savior

564
00:35:51,110 --> 00:35:55,070
and Lord, if you would listen to
the Holy Spirit speaking 

565
00:35:55,070 --> 00:35:58,110
quietly, whispering. 
In your heart right now, you 

566
00:35:58,110 --> 00:36:02,350
know that there are areas in 
your heart that are hard, areas 

567
00:36:02,350 --> 00:36:07,950
where you're giving. 
Permission to not have the 

568
00:36:07,950 --> 00:36:12,510
attention of the Holy Spirit. 
To soften that heart. 

569
00:36:14,540 --> 00:36:18,340
And that's why these steps are. 
Open for you to come up here and

570
00:36:18,340 --> 00:36:21,820
to just do some a little bit of 
time with the Lord. 

571
00:36:24,940 --> 00:36:27,140
I know that some of you might 
say, well, I can just do that in

572
00:36:27,140 --> 00:36:29,700
my seat, you know, I can just 
pray in my seat, but there's 

573
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:34,980
something about putting. 
Some motion to it, making some. 

574
00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:37,020
Commitment to it enough to be 
able to. 

575
00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:39,340
Stand up and to come up here and
you get down and your knees in a

576
00:36:39,340 --> 00:36:43,140
humble position which is 
admitting that God is God. 

577
00:36:43,140 --> 00:36:47,560
And you're not. 
Saying, Lord, help me. 

578
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:55,600
I want to soften my heart, but I
don't know that I can do it 

579
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:02,600
alone. 
What do you think God's going to

580
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,520
do with that prayer? 
Sorry, you've just gone too far.

581
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:16,570
You're just broken. 
Or do you think that he'll be up

582
00:37:16,570 --> 00:37:18,490
here ahead of you waiting for 
you? 

583
00:37:18,490 --> 00:37:21,890
And when you say something like 
that to. 

584
00:37:21,890 --> 00:37:27,850
Him, he'll say. 
That's my girl, that's my boy. 

585
00:37:29,770 --> 00:37:33,250
I'm proud of you. 
I'll help you. 

586
00:37:34,370 --> 00:37:40,210
I love you of. 
Course you know what he will do,

587
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:45,180
whatever it is. 
That you're dealing with right 

588
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:46,020
now. 
Let him have it. 

589
00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:51,780
Would you stand with me? 
In Jesus name, Heavenly Father, 

590
00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:57,020
we come before you, and we can 
only do that because your Son 

591
00:37:57,020 --> 00:38:02,060
paved the road and he did it 
with His. 

592
00:38:02,060 --> 00:38:05,740
Body and his blood. 
He paid our debt. 

593
00:38:05,860 --> 00:38:13,920
He set us free. 
We are no longer slaves, but 

594
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,600
help us. 
Father to live in this new 

595
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:24,040
reality and help us. 
Father, to yield to your 

596
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:31,040
presence, to your ability to 
change us, we've made. 

597
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:36,600
Decisions in the past in our 
lower stories, Father, but 

598
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,270
right. 
In this moment of clarity, we 

599
00:38:40,270 --> 00:38:43,190
want to look up to that upper. 
Story We want to be in alignment

600
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:48,910
with you. 
I know you've been patient with 

601
00:38:48,910 --> 00:38:54,790
this, but your. 
It has no end and I pray right 

602
00:38:54,790 --> 00:39:00,310
now we will find the peace that 
comes from coming into alignment

603
00:39:00,310 --> 00:39:04,190
with you. 
In Jesus name, Amen.

