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Good morning Crossing Church. 
How are you doing today? 

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It's so good here at 48th Street
to see the place packed. 

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Always love. 
Seeing that welcome. 

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All of the other campuses that 
are joining with us, we have the

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opportunity to be a family of 
Believers and I don't know if 

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you saw this or if you look 
around and like, you know, kind 

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of let yourself out of worship 
for a little bit and just kind 

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of look around you. 
And I don't know if it's that 

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way everywhere else but you know
what, I see a lot at 48. 

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Sure, I see this. 
You guys are good at swaying. 

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You kind of got the sway down 
and and I think that's awesome 

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because there's something about 
worship. 

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That is very emotional, isn't it
kind of hits you in a kind of a 

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deep level like the center of 
yourself and you can't help but 

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have a response to it like an 
emotional response and I think 

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that that is just so awesome. 
But you're not just an emotional

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person, are you? 
I think some people think that, 

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you know, when it comes to 
Faith, you know, that's just 

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this thing, we feel, it's just 
this, you know, we kind of have 

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this Faith thing going on and I 
feel the presence of God and so 

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because I feel it, it's real. 
But you're not just an emotional

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person. 
You're also an intellectual 

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person, you're a thinking 
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Right? 
And those two things need to 

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come together and I think that 
as a church, we do really well 

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when it comes to those emotional
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with our faith feelings, but I 
think we have to have a ready 

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answer for the hope that is 
within us, we have to engage our

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minds. 
God gave us our minds and he 

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didn't give them to us so that 
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that's why we're in the series 
called if And what if is about 

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is, it's about understanding 
apologetically what the Bible 

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says. 
And what I mean by that is to 

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have a defense for what you 
believe that is, is not just an 

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emotional one, but an 
intellectual one to give you 

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solid reasons to know what you 
believe about God. 

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What you believe about the 
Bible, what you believe about 

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Jesus and about your place in 
this world. 

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And to understand that from a 
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So just to review, Clayton 
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with proof that Jesus was a real
person who claimed to be God in 

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human form and fulfilled. 
All that was foretold about him 

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and paid for all of our sins 
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gave us Life by rising from the 
dead, our second week. 

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We were treated with a guest 
appearance by Ken Ham who helped

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us? 
Understand that a person of 

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Faith does not require that 
person to be unscientific, or to

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believe in fairy tales. 
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touched on such a great amount 
of evidence that shows the 

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science that backs up all of 
that narrative in the Bible so 

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that you don't have to turn your
brain off to understand that 

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it's inspired by God. 
The only reason we don't know 

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that is that when we grow up in 
school, the separation of 

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church, Church and state won't 
allow you to learn about 

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intelligent design one. 
Allow you to learn about God's 

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role in creation, And so what is
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As a theory which actually is a 
much more of a fairytale than 

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you might think we're 
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But the truth of God's word will
bear that out. 

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Scientifically if you're exposed
to that information last week, I

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talked about how the Bible is, 
historically credible and 

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reliable. 
And by that, I mean that it was 

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written by those who say they 
wrote it and it was copied 

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carefully and correctly until 
now so that you can depend on 

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it, you are actually reading 
what they wrote. 

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And the understanding that that 
was actually inspired by God 

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that they moved as God directed 
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What I want to do today is kind 
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And the kind of use a legal 
term, to put the burden of proof

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on us. 
Can you prove can I prove Beyond

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a reasonable doubt? 
That Jesus is actually who he 

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says he is and did what the 
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Can I actually trust that what? 
I'm reading there is true so 

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that I would stake my whole life
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And I'll tell you that not only 
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actually think that you have to 
have a whole lot more faith to 

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believe in any other alternative
than, to believe. 

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The Bible is true because all of
the real evidence points there 

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The way I'm going to try to to 
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theory of probability called. 
Occam's razor now. 

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What Occam's razor is? 
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sounds kind of highbrow, but 
what it is is this, it's this 

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philosophical idea that if there
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just Oracle event, the simplest 
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Okay, lots of different 
explanations of what I'm going 

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to do is I'm going to give you 
every kind of explanation that I

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can think of. 
And if you're if you have 

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another one, I'd like to hear it
because I'm going to go through 

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all of them. 
And I'm going to show you that 

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it takes an incredible amount of
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And the simplest one is, in 
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So here's the first one, okay? 
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dwell on it, Clayton talked 
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it's this that Jesus never 
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That he was a mythological 
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was created by these authors to 
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looks like or maybe even to 
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Now, this one to me, has a lot 
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I remember when I went to 
college, I went to Indiana 

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University before I went to 
Bible College and it was my 

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freshman year and I was looking 
for a couple of easy credits. 

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You I mean, like because I knew 
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going to take, we're going to be
hard and I was looking for an 

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easy one and in the in the 
course, curriculum, I could take

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as an elective The Life of 
Christ in the synoptic gospels. 

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That's Matthew, Mark, and Luke. 
And I thought, oh yeah. 

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All that. 
By all that Sunday school time. 

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All that Church times about to 
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I'm going to get these credits. 
It's going to be easy. 

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And I went to that class in the 
very first day that I went to 

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that class the professor stood 
up and he said, I want you to 

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know that my point of view as we
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believe that Jesus Christ was 
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That he was a mythological 
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So not really someone you can 
put your faith in just a good 

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just a good mythological example
and I went and I deflate it 

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because I'm going man. 
I thought I was going to get 

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some easy credit here. 
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class for me to realize. 
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Drop It. 
Because I just went adding, we 

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went at each other and and you 
know in college if you don't 

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regurgitate what the professor 
says it's going to get you into 

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trouble with your grades. 
So I didn't really want to stay 

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there but I can tell you a 
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of in short form and that's this
three historians wrote about 

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Jesus that were contemporary 
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They lived at nearly the same 
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And the three historians that 
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None of them believed that Jesus
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the world will historian right 
about a person that he didn't 

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believe actually existed at the 
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Doesn't make a lot of sense. 
Does it the first one was a man 

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named Josephus. 
He's probably the most famous of

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the three and Josephus was a 
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under Emperor. 
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Emperor at the time, wanted him 
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He had written a book called 
Wars of the Jews. 

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He also wrote one called 
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this is in that book Antiquities
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at 94 ad. 
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I mean, not very far right? 
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resurrection of Jesus. 
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Christian, he wrote about Jesus 
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about Jesus. 
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Baptist, that's a lot right 
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Jesus is half-brother James 
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the Apostle James, a different 
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Well, that's a pretty good 
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But he wasn't the only one, 
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tacitus. 
Who was a Roman historian, not a

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Christian, he wrote A History 
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wrote about Jesus, his 
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the life of early Christians. 
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a Christian, a third historian 
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history. 
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about? 
This guy is a personal letter 

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that he wrote the emperor. 
Er er at that time the emperor's

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name was trajan and he wrote 
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out how to deal with the 
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He was a governor of a Roman 
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and here's a quote of what he 
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They were in the habit of 
meeting on a certain fixed day 

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before. 
It was light, when they sang, an

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alternate versus a him to Christ
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solemn party to not, do any 
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Deeds never to commit any fraud 
theft or adultery to never 

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falsify their word or deny a 
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upon deliver it up after, which 
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8 and then reassemble to partake
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ordinary and innocent kind. 
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historical provenance, it's 
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I don't really believe that 
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As a matter of fact, it takes a 
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was not a historical person, an 
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fairytale amount of faith. 
And if I run that through the 

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filter of Occam's razor, I'm 
going that's just not a good 

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explanation. 
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Jesus was a good teacher, just 
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believes. 
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might listen to like Ben 
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This is what he believes that 
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And he'll say this, just not the
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Well, as c.s. 
Lewis puts it, that just doesn't

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make any sense. 
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Jesus repeatedly claimed to be 
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like the forgive sins, that only
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Now if a person is 
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the time about who he is, how in
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teacher? 
He might be a teacher but he's 

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certainly not good. 
He would be instead called a 

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what a false teacher. 
So it just doesn't hold any 

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water to say that. 
Jesus was a good teacher kind of

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throwing Christians a bone here.
No, it really doesn't. 

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So I don't think that one holds 
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through Occam's. 
Razor and go. 

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That's really privileged really.
Not a good option and you takes 

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an awful lot of faith to believe
that. 

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Well, what if that opposite was 
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What if Jesus was a liar or just
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Just delusional. 
Just a guy who just wanted to be

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this other thing. 
Well, both of those are going to

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be disproven by the 
resurrection, but let's not go 

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there yet because of Jesus was a
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Someone certainly would have 
been able to point it out 

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because he was under constant 
scrutiny and he was constantly 

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being questioned, but he never 
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when it went to the extreme of 
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Don't you think that a person 
who's a liar when he, when he's 

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on trial for his life? 
Wife would say, sorry, guys. 

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Made it all up. 
You know, I really didn't mean 

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this. 
You know, to the best of my 

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recollection would be like one 
of these Senate hearings or 

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something. 
You know. 

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I don't have a recollection of 
that now. 

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I think it would be more like 
that, but here he is on trial 

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and he's calmly saying exactly 
the same thing. 

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Well, then they turn him over to
the Romans to beat him nearly to

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death with the scourge. 
You think maybe that didn't 

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break the liar know, He just 
holds right onto it how about 

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when they're getting ready to 
put him on a cross, even while 

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the guy is dying being tortured 
on a cross, he's still 

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everything he was before calmly 
telling the truth about who he 

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is. 
Do you really want me to 

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believe? 
That he was lying. 

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Maybe, maybe it's not that. 
Maybe he's delusional, maybe 

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he's just nuts. 
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think something the pressure 
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constant. 
He was, and that kind of 

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pressure, and all of that. 
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have surely exposed a delusional
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Modern-day cult leaders, always 
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And I believe that Jesus is 
suffering and death would have 

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certainly exposed the reality 
that he was not in his right 

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mind. 
If, in fact, he was not In his 

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right mind, I don't think that 
one Bears. 

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The smell test passes, the smell
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Well, how about this one other 
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Clayton shared just for a short 
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that Jesus didn't really die. 
He just fainted Now that became 

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a popular theory in 1965 because
there was a theologian named 

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Hugh. 
Schoenfeld that wrote a book in 

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1965 is a best seller was called
the Passover plot. 

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And the Passover plot was all 
about this idea is called the 

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Swoon theory that Jesus fainted.
And when he went after, they 

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took him off the cross and laid 
him in the Tomb he comes to And 

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then gets out of the Tomb and 
shows himself alive to 

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everybody. 
This one is the one that you 

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have to be absolutely Bonkers to
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It is the most ridiculous of all
the options. 

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That's what you to think about 
this for a little bit. 

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Romans soldiers are experts at 
execution. 

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It's a matter of fact, the 
detail that was responsible for 

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Jesus execution. 
That's probably just what they 

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They were the execution detail. 

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So they knew how to kill people.
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crucifixion, it really wasn't 
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It was about keeping them alive.
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In the most Agony, you could. 
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in a very public. 
Place to put fear into other 

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people who would defy the Roman 
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Jesus was crucified at a 
Crossroads. 

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Okay, so they knew what they 
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his crucifixion. 
It was what they did after he 

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died. 
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his Spirit. 
He died. 

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And then they took a spear and 
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cage into his vital organs. 
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doesn't say it in this way, but 
that his blood had divided into 

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plasma and red cells, blood and 
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That means that it was a 
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He had already died and then 
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Now, do you think that Roman 
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polite when they would take a 
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Do you think would be like be 
careful when you pry out those 

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nails? 
I don't think they pry them out 

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at all. 
I think they just pulled him 

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off. 
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Nicodemus and Joseph of 
Arimathea, right? 

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And and Joseph of Arimathea has 
the tomb and they take Jesus and

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put him in the Tomb. 
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they had prepared his body, they
had, they had wrapped his body 

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and his face, and they had put 
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the smell down of decay. 
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front of the Tomb and those 
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people they don't want, they 
don't want people robbing tombs 

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and you can see them in Israel 
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Like in a trough a role in a 
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this little indention at the 
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That locks that stone into place
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tons. 
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Okay? 
So they put Jesus in the Tomb, 

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they wrap him up, they put the 
stone over, right? 

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They leave Roman Detachment of 
soldiers, come. 

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They put a seal on the tomb and 
then there's a Detachment of 

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soldiers to stand, watch over 
it. 

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Now, what schoenfeld wants you 
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enduring all that Jesus, endured
he wakes up in the Tomb. 

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Takes the time in total darkness
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Walks up to a 4 ton Stone, 
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inside. 
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the palms of his hands somehow, 
he is able to roll a 4 ton Stone

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Away by himself up, a hill, 
breaking a seal, and doing it. 

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So quietly, That the Detachment 
of soldiers outside that on pain

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of death, had to have to guard 
this tomb, don't hear him. 

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And then on his nail pierced 
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goes to the upper room, couple 
of miles away and goes, hey 

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guys. 
What kind of Faith does it take 

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for you to believe that 
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A lot. 
So, how about this? 

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Jesus died. 
Okay. 

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All right. 
But his body was stolen. 

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Now, that's a, that's another 
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Almost as crazy as the Passover 
plot. 

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Except for it needs to be 
mentioned because of what the 

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Bible says. 
In Matthew 28 So, you know, like

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in our government the only thing
worse than the crime is the 

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what? 
It's the cover-up. 

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Right, here we go. 
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way, some of the guards went 
into the city. 

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These are the guards that were 
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when the resurrection happens 
and some of them actually 

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fainted and some of them ran and
it says, they reported to the 

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chief priests everything that 
had happened. 

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And when the chief priests met 
with the elders and devised a 

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plan, this is their plan. 
This is her cover up plan. 

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They gave the soldiers, a large 
sum of money. 

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It always begins with the money,
right? 

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So they give them money and they
telling them you are to say his 

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disciples came during the night 
and stole him away while we were

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asleep, which is kind of 
interesting how you can testify 

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to, a particular fact, when 
you're asleep. 

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But that's what they were 
supposed to say. 

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Well, that's a dumb thing to do,
if you're a guard because you 

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are summarily executed, if 
somebody is able to steal a body

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that you're in charge of 
protecting, And then they say 

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this in verse 14, if this report
gets to the governor, we will 

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satisfy him and keep you out of 
trouble. 

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So this isn't this is bribery, 
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This is all of that, right? 
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took the money and did as they 
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And this story here it is, has 
been widely circulated among the

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Jews to this very day as 
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that is of an option, is that is
it was the one they decided to 

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go with. 
Think about the Apostle stealing

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this body, these guys, the 
apostles are hiding they're 

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scared to death, they don't get 
boldness until later. 

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I mean there and you think that 
they're going to sneak up In 

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this Garden where Jesus is 
buried and somehow get past the 

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guards in a right in front 
somehow break. 

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The seal somehow roll a 4 ton 
Stone away, it makes a lot of 

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noise by the way, and chalk that
stone. 

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So it doesn't roll back tiptoe 
into the tomb. 

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Take the time to fold the grave 
clothes, take Jesus body. 

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I don't know if they, you know, 
over the shoulder or what and 

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get past all of those other guys
with Without being noticed. 

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You see, it's ridiculous. 
Okay, maybe there's I can only 

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think of one more, okay, one 
more option and that is that you

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really can't trust the Bible and
its account of the story. 

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Well, I think last week should 
have already kind of finished 

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that argument in your mind. 
But if you weren't here, the 

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Bible is the most reliable 
ancient document in the world. 

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There are over 24,000 
handwritten copies of it, over 

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5,000 of them. 
In ancient, Greek. 

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And the closest competitor of an
ancient document is Homer's 

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Iliad, and they're only 650 of 
it. 

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So there's just no comparison 
when it comes to historical 

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Providence of God's word. 
See the books of the New 

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Testament were written at the 
time, when many of the people 

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who were witnessing these 
things, we're still alive in 

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Jerusalem and there were 
hundreds of them. 

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So if you're writing something 
that's a complete fantasy, 

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anybody could have come up and 
said that's not true. 

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That didn't happen. 
It was nothing like that but you

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don't read any of that. 
Historically. 

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So what are you left with? 
Now, I'm going to go over them 

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real quick, ready? 
Jesus never existed. 

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Okay. 
Jesus existed, but he was just a

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good teacher. 
Okay. 

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Well, Jesus wasn't a good 
teacher but he was just a liar, 

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okay? 
Jesus wasn't a liar, but he was 

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just, you know delusional. 
Sorry, Jesus, never actually 

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died. 
He just fainted and people used 

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it. 
No, that doesn't work. 

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Jesus has died, but his body was
stolen. 

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No, you really can't even trust 
the Bible on this one. 

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Sorry. 
What are you left with? 

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You are left with either trying 
to apply a ridiculous amount of 

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Faith to any one of those, that 
makes no sense whatsoever, or 

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following Occam's razor razor, 
which is the simplest 

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explanation is probably the 
truth. 

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And that is Jesus is exactly who
he said he was just as simple as

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that. 
And you think I'm done and I'm 

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not even close. 
Ready in Acts. 13, Luke is 

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writing about this. 
He says, after his suffering, he

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presented himself to them and 
gave many convincing proofs. 

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That he was alive. 
Here's a dozen of them very 

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quickly, everything that Jesus 
did and dying on the cross and 

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rising from the dead. 
He spoke about all of those 

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things, claim them before any of
it happened, right? 

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Here's one. 
Here's another one. 

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The first Witnesses of the 
Resurrection were women, there 

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were six of them and if you're 
trying to prove something to the

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local masses at the time you 
wouldn't use women because they 

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were not allowed to even testify
in court. 

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And yet, God chose that and to 
me, when I read the scripture 

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account, I'm going that is also 
proof. 

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How about the conversion of Saul
of Tarsus a guy who committed 

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his life to wiping out 
Christianity. 

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Christianity becomes the 
greatest proponent of 

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Christianity, how about the 
conversion of Jesus? 

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Half-brother James, who thought 
his brother was crazy until he 

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experienced the resurrection of 
his of his older brother, and 

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then became the writer that we 
know for The Book of James in 

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our new testament. 
What about the immediate change 

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in worship? 
Of something that had been held 

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onto for 1500 years from 
Saturday to Sunday from the 

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Sabbath to the Lord's day. 
You think you can move an entire

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culture of people to change that
overnight and yet they did? 

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How about the birth of the 
church? 

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All being a bunch of 
monotheistic juice. 

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You know all of the original 
Believers on the day of 

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Pentecost, they were all Jewish 
right? 

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And if you ever if you get to 
know a Jewish person, if they 

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follow their faith, Most of them
will have what's called a 

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mezuzah outside their home on 
the doorpost of their home. 

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It's a little tin thing or maybe
a ceramic and inside there's a 

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scroll it has the Shema of 
Israel hear o Israel. 

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The Lord Our God. 
The Lord is one. 

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And the reason that Jewish 
people don't like Christianity's

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because they think we believe in
three Gods, father, son, Holy 

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Spirit. 
We don't we believe in one God 

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that exists in three persons. 
How do you explain all of these 

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Jewish people saying, I'm going 
to throw away that view of 

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monotheism because I believe in 
Jesus all at once. 

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How about the fact that there 
was no, contrary evidence found,

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even though people desperately 
looked for it, how about the 

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fact that it was proclaimed in 
Jerusalem, it began there, where

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it actually happened, where 
people would have been easily 

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able to refute it if it didn't 
happen. 

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How do you explain a tomb being 
empty? 

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What about the transformation of
the disciples from being so 

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fearful and hiding to being 
willing to go into martyrdom? 

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What about the immediate 
proclamation of this truth? 

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Only 50 days after his death on 
the day of Pentecost in 

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Jerusalem, And what about the 
fact that the disciples all 

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claim that they witness this 
empirically with their eyes, 

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they saw him, they heard him, 
they touched him. 

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There's a dozen I could go on, 
maybe that's enough. 

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Oh no, it's not beyond the 
simple. 

451
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:06,000
Logic of all that we have. 
All of these prophecies 

452
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:09,100
concerning Jesus from the Old 
Testament, that could not be 

453
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:14,100
faked or manipulated the Hebrew 
Old Testaments called the Tanakh

454
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:16,200
it existed for hundreds and 
hundreds of years. 

455
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:19,900
It was translated into Greek in 
Alexandria, Egypt into What's 

456
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:24,100
called the Septuagint. 
And that was over 300 years. 

457
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:29,100
Before Jesus was born pretty 
hard to change, documents that 

458
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,500
existed, 300 years before you 
were born. 

459
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:36,000
Right? 
And so, when we look at Old 

460
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,700
Testament prophecy, what do we 
see a thousand years? 

461
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:42,800
That's a long time, a thousand 
years before Jesus was born 

462
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:49,100
King, David described this in 
Psalm 22, Psalm 23 is the most 

463
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,900
famous song but he said this in 
Psalm 22. 

464
00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:55,300
Listen to verses 1 and 2. 
My God my God. 

465
00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:58,900
Why have you forsaken me? 
Wait a minute. 

466
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:03,200
If I heard that, there's 
somebody else say that. 

467
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,800
Why are you so far from saving 
me so far from My Cries of 

468
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,700
Anguish? 
My God. 

469
00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:11,500
I cry out by day, but you do not
answer by night. 

470
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:13,900
I find no rest. 
Well, maybe King. 

471
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:17,400
David was just having a bad day.
Maybe there isn't anything 

472
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,900
prophetic in that at all? 
Well, how about we go down to 

473
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:24,600
verse 6, but I'm a worm and not 
a man scorned by everyone 

474
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,400
despised by the people. 
All who see me mock me. 

475
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:32,100
They hurl insults at me, shaking
their heads, wait a minute, he's

476
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:37,000
the king for goodness sake. 
They don't do that to him. 

477
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,800
He trusts in the Lord, they say,
let the Lord rescue him. 

478
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:45,900
Let him deliver him since he 
Delights in him still 

479
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:50,200
unconvinced verse 12, many bulls
surround me, strong Bulls of 

480
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,600
Bashan, encircle me roaring 
lions, that tear, their prey 

481
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,800
open, their prey open, their 
mouths wide against me. 

482
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,800
I am poured out like water, all 
my bones are out of joint. 

483
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,500
My heart is turned to wax. 
It is melted within me. 

484
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:05,100
My mouth is dried up like a 
potsherd. 

485
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:08,300
It's a broken piece of pottery. 
My tongue sticks to the roof of 

486
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:10,700
my mouth. 
You lay me in the dust of death.

487
00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:13,200
Dogs around me. 
Me, a pack of villains and 

488
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,500
circle me. 
Listen, they pierced my hands 

489
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:19,600
and my feet. 
All my bones are on display, 

490
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:23,600
people stare and gloat over me. 
They divided my clothes, among 

491
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,800
them and cast. 
Lots for my garment, a thousand 

492
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:34,400
years before Jesus was born. 
when that when death by 

493
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:42,600
crucifixion didn't even hadn't 
even invented yet, Let's go 300 

494
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:47,400
years into the future, 700 BC 
written by Isaiah chapter 53, 

495
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:50,800
who has believed our message and
to whom has the arm of the Lord 

496
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,100
been revealed. 
He grew up before him as a 

497
00:31:53,108 --> 00:31:55,700
tender shoot like a root out of 
the dry ground. 

498
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:58,000
He had no Beauty. 
Your majesty to attract us to 

499
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,300
him nothing in his appearance 
that we should desire him. 

500
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:04,400
He was despised and rejected by 
mankind. 

501
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,800
A man of suffering and familiar 
with pain. 

502
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,800
Like one from whom people hide 
their faces. 

503
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,600
He was despised and we held him 
in low esteem. 

504
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,600
Surely took up our pain and bore
our suffering. 

505
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,000
Yet, we considered him punished 
by God, stricken by him and 

506
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,300
Afflicted. 
Here it is again, 700 years. 

507
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:26,300
Before Jesus is born, he was 
pierced for our transgressions. 

508
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:28,600
He was crushed for our 
iniquities. 

509
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,800
The punishment that brought us. 
Peace was upon him by his 

510
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,400
wounds. 
We are healed. 

511
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,800
We all like, sheep have gone 
astray. 

512
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,100
Each of us has turned to his own
way and the lord has laid on 

513
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:42,100
him. 
The iniquity of us all that 

514
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:46,700
sounds like the gospel to me and
if you aren't it, if you're 

515
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:50,300
going okay, well that's death. 
But where's life? 

516
00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:53,000
Where's the resurrection? 
Just go down to verse 10. 

517
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Yet. 
It was the Lord's will to crush 

518
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,300
him and cause him to suffer. 
And though, the Lord makes his 

519
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:02,900
life and offering for sin, he 
will see his offspring and 

520
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:06,500
prolong his days and the will of
the Lord will prosper in his 

521
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:09,700
hand. 
After he has suffered, he will 

522
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:12,600
see the light of life and be 
satisfied. 

523
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,700
That's the resurrection by his 
knowledge. 

524
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:18,900
My righteous servant will 
justify many and he will bear 

525
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:21,800
their iniquities. 
Therefore, I will give him a 

526
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,100
portion among the great, and he 
will divide this. 

527
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,300
The spoils with the strong 
because he poured out his life 

528
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:31,400
unto death and was numbered with
the transgression transgressors 

529
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,500
for. 
He bore the sins of many and 

530
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:36,700
made intercession. 
Golly. 

531
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,200
The odds of Jesus fulfilling 8 
prophecies about hit of his 

532
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,200
birth. 
Something he or his followers 

533
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,200
couldn't control the 
mathematical probability of that

534
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:54,200
is 1 times 10 to the 28th power.
That means one chance in 10 and 

535
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,800
in 28, more zeros. 
I don't even know what the word 

536
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,500
is for that number. 
I don't think you do either but 

537
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:03,500
Jesus didn't fulfill 8 
prophecies. 

538
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:11,400
He fulfilled over 300 of them. 
So what is the problem? 

539
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:16,600
It's certainly not the truth of 
Jesus. 

540
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,300
You know what it is and so do I.
It's the ramifications of that 

541
00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:27,100
truth because it will affect 
your life because if Jesus is 

542
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:31,500
who he says he is Then I am who 
he says I am. 

543
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:37,100
If Jesus is who he says he is, 
then I have a sin problem. 

544
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:42,400
And I have an eternity problem, 
and I also have a will problem. 

545
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:47,699
Now, my problems have a solution
but there is an Incredible cost 

546
00:34:47,699 --> 00:34:53,500
associated with that solution. 
That solution was Jesus taking 

547
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:57,900
my place in paying my debt. 
On the cross to set me free, his

548
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:05,700
blood covering my sin. 
That truth tells me that Jesus 

549
00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:10,100
knows exactly who I am. 
And he still loves me. 

550
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:17,300
Loves me enough to solve my sin 
problem for me by taking my 

551
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:20,800
place on the cross and paying 
for my sin. 

552
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:23,300
He also solves my eternity 
problem. 

553
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,500
He did that by rising from the 
dead because the power of Jesus 

554
00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:30,900
to rise from the dead isn't just
a show us that he has power 

555
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:32,700
over. 
His own death, is to show us 

556
00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:36,800
that he has power over death 
itself, which means he can give 

557
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,300
you life. 
Not just himself that you can 

558
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:47,700
trust him to give you life. 
But I also have a will problem. 

559
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:51,800
You see his? 
It's not just my past, I don't 

560
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,400
know about you. 
I'm not going to judge you but 

561
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,200
I'll judge me. 
It's every day of my life. 

562
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,100
And here's where it gets 
expensive for me. 

563
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,800
Now while I cannot learn what 
Jesus did for me and I can only 

564
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,100
receive it as a gift, I don't 
deserve it. 

565
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:15,300
His expectation for me today and
every day is to repent of my 

566
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:23,000
sins and to turn and follow him.
That means to abandon my will 

567
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,200
and to surrender to his will. 
And I'm going to tell you 

568
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,500
something that's hard to do. 
And most of the time, I don't 

569
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:36,000
want to. 
I want my will to Prevail, not 

570
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,400
his. 
So in a lot of human beings in 

571
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,500
their brains, they're going to 
give me another look at that 

572
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:45,500
list. 
Which one is the least 

573
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:47,900
ridiculous? 
Because I would rather believe 

574
00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:52,100
that then to believe the truth, 
because if I believe the truth, 

575
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:55,500
it's going to have a major 
impact on my life. 

576
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,900
That maybe I don't want it to 
have. 

577
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,400
Maybe I'd rather believe in 
something silly. 

578
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,600
Then to surrender to what is 
obvious. 

579
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,100
And that my friend is the real 
issue. 

580
00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:13,300
It's the real issue to all of 
us. 

581
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,300
The question isn't whether it's 
true or not? 

582
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,000
The question really isn't? 
Whether I can prove it or not. 

583
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:26,600
The question is whether or not 
you can believe it. 

584
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:34,300
And trust your life. 
To the life of Jesus who gave it

585
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,200
for you. 
We're moving to a time of 

586
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:45,100
decision. 
I started the sermon this 

587
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:47,800
morning by talking about a 
swing. 

588
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:53,000
And feelings. 
And we all have I think it's 

589
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,800
great that we have those 
feelings. 

590
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,600
And I think, right now, we're in
a time in a space in American 

591
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,400
culture where we're all trying 
to get in touch with our 

592
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:09,500
feelings, Feelings in many 
people's hearts Trump's truth. 

593
00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:14,100
Like I don't know that you know 
because now I live in a post 

594
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:17,800
truth culture where that's my 
truth as opposed to your truth. 

595
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,600
Like we can all have a different
truth Like, truth isn't static. 

596
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,900
And so for some of you when it 
comes to issues of Faith, you're

597
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:34,000
just fine because you have this 
emotional attachment to it and 

598
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,500
you know, it's that Sway in the 
song and you're kind of going. 

599
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,600
Yeah, it feels good to have a 
relation, I believe it, you 

600
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,500
know. 
And maybe my mind will catch up 

601
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:48,800
with my feelings but there's 
some of you may be many of you 

602
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:53,100
that are here today that are the
reverse That you're more, the 

603
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:55,600
intellectual. 
Show me. 

604
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,700
Prove it to me give me good 
reasons, my mind matters to me 

605
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:04,800
and maybe I will let my 
feelings. 

606
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:10,800
Move after I feel like I can 
stand firm on those facts. 

607
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000
That's what this series is 
about. 

608
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,000
Because as an individual, you 
are not one or the other. 

609
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,900
You're not an all feelings 
person and you're not an all 

610
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:26,400
intellectual person you're both,
aren't you? 

611
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,000
Both of those that realities are
woven together in your mind and 

612
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,600
in your heart. 
That if I believe something is 

613
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,500
true, it ought to impact how I 
feel about it. 

614
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,100
And if I feel something is true,
it ought to impact. 

615
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:47,000
What I think about it. 
And I'm here to tell you today, 

616
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,000
if you're here, and you do not 
have an intimate personal 

617
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:56,400
relationship with Jesus Christ, 
you can stand on that, it's not 

618
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,200
shifting sand. 
It's not a Pious platitude. 

619
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,300
It's real and you can stand on 
it. 

620
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:08,900
Let your mind go first and then 
let feelings follow it up. 

621
00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:12,000
If you're here today and I, you 
know, I hear people say this to 

622
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,000
me like that they come to the 
crossing and they'll come up to 

623
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,300
me later. 
I just had a person last week. 

624
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:20,500
Do this come up to me and said I
was crying. 

625
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:25,700
I don't even know why, I'm not 
even sad because something's 

626
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:28,200
happening inside me. 
That's not just me. 

627
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,300
There's feelings happening, 
right? 

628
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:36,000
You may be feeling that maybe 
your mind needs to catch up with

629
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,600
your feelings. 
I'm just saying. 

630
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,200
Come to Christ. 
You can trust him, you can 

631
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,800
believe him and you can believe 
in him. 

632
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:49,500
There's going to be somebody 
right over there. 

633
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:53,200
By that baptistery would love 
nothing more than to talk to you

634
00:40:53,207 --> 00:40:57,700
about next steps, what it means 
to come into relationship with 

635
00:40:57,700 --> 00:41:01,400
Jesus, many of you here today 
and you say, well, you know, I 

636
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,000
made that relationship. 
I, I walked into that 

637
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,900
relationship, I accepted that 
invitation. 

638
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:10,600
I've done that but Isn't it 
true? 

639
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:15,600
That sometimes the lower story 
gets the best of you. and 

640
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,600
sometimes you start wondering 
and you start questioning and 

641
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,000
you start going his all of this 
real Do I really have something 

642
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,300
to stand on here? 
And I think it's times like that

643
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:33,900
with all of our incredible 
intellect that we just come up 

644
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:39,000
like a little child, And 
remember, be reminded. 

645
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:46,100
Who he is? 
And how he sees you as a child 

646
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,000
and loves you. 
To just relax for some people at

647
00:41:52,008 --> 00:41:53,800
church right now. 
This is like the most difficult 

648
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,800
time. 
It's like confrontational there 

649
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,300
doesn't need to be confrontation
In This Moment. 

650
00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:02,100
There just needs to be 
surrender. 

651
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,300
And you know what? 
We can relax in that. 

652
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,400
Because the one we surrender to 
doesn't mean us harm. 

653
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,900
He loves us. 
To surrender to someone who 

654
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:18,000
loves you enough to die for you.
That's good surrender. 

655
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:21,400
And that's what these steps are 
for for you to come up here and 

656
00:42:21,408 --> 00:42:23,700
just lay it down, whatever it 
is, just lay it down. 

657
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,300
Let him have it. 
And walk away. 

658
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:14,900
Lighter. 
To surrender to someone who 

659
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:18,000
loves you enough to die for you.
That's good surrender. 

660
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:21,400
And that's what these steps are 
for for you to come up here and 

661
00:42:21,408 --> 00:42:23,700
just lay it down, whatever it 
is, just lay it down. 

662
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,300
Let him have it. 
And walk away. 

663
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:26,900
Lighter.
