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Hello everyone, welcome to 
interview, a podcast brought to 

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you by the SIP Internship 
Experience Program and. 

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Welcome back to Interview. 
This is a podcast for students 

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by students, bringing you an 
inside look at SA P's internship

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experience program. 
Today's episode is hosted by 

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myself for sales and I'm excited
to be here with all of you for 

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another great conversation. 
Interview is all about giving 

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you great insights into SA PS 
world, the opportunities here 

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for young talents, and what 
student life at SA PS really 

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like. 
So without further delay, let's 

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welcome our special guest for 
Episode 2. 

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We're thrilled to have Marcus 
Bell with us today. 

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SA PS Global Head of Vocational 
Training here with us today to 

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share his experiences and 
insights. 

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Good morning, Marcus. 
How are you doing? 

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Hi, good morning. 
I'm fine. 

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Many thanks. 
What we're we're very excited to

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have you here with us today. 
Marcus, could you possibly give 

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us a bit of a background on who 
you are and what brought you SAP

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and what your journey has been 
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Yeah, I'm based in Baldorf, our 
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I'm with SAP now for much more 
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Nowadays I'm in the HR 
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Today we call it people and 
culture, and I'm responsible for

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several early talent programs 
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those programs is the Vocational
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Interesting. 
Now for those those five viewers

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and listeners who are not from 
SAP, could we perhaps delve into

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what exactly vocational training
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in SAP? 
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Star is the same, so we only 
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different regions or countries 
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And it's actually a program 
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close collaboration with the 
university, can get a special 

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education at SAP for two, 
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It depends on the education 
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That means we hire students 
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We on board them. 
You work during your time as a 

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student for SAP. 
We offer a lot of training 

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opportunities, but also real 
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rotations. 
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are asked to go during that time
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organisations and lines of 
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So which means they get a very, 
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the company, regarding our 
industry and regarding different

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learning opportunities within 
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And after those rotations, after
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learning opportunities we offer 
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is to convert most of the 
students into fixed roles at SAP

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afterwards. 
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graduated from your master or 
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That's our goal. 
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Thank you for that insight. 
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into the vocational training 
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differentiates SA PS vocational 
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at other companies in Germany? 
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basics are the same. 
It has all the same methodology.

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But at the end of the day, I 
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we invest a lot into our 
students and interns that on the

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other hand, we have a clear 
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I have already said conversion 
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We really want to offer real 
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And last but not least, we give 
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look for their rotations, 
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means we have a framework in 
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And then they can decide 
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what is my next rotation, what 
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like to focus on? 
So I think this is something 

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Interesting. 
Well, a bit of a different 

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question, but since you've been 
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for quite a while, could you 
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success stories of students that
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program and how to shape their 
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Yeah, definitely. 
So on the one hand side, we have

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at the moment 2 board members at
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They have been within the Vt 
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So they have started their 
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So this is a great success 
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But on top of that, we have 
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made a very, very successful 
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years within the organization on
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in people managers role. 
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the moment much more than 3000 
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programme actively working at 
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And they are all very 
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And we, I call it now, observe 
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something like radio tracking 
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And overall we are very happy to
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career on their own, what they 
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Interesting, 2 board members 
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I think for our viewers and our 
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to show the success and how 
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be if one of you are considering
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during your Bachelor's or your 
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What Marcus, thinking a bit more
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changes you just mentioned 
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new skills do you foresee 
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students in the coming years, 
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race in AI? 
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it. 
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moment. 
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All the different opportunities 
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with AI, if it is in 
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at the moment. 
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We have to talk about big data, 
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So these are all elements which 
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or the collaborations we offer 
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the statements, all the 
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are somewhere included into our 
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we have around the globe. 
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are, what is needed from country
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It could be different. 
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beginning, we always have to go 
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get converted at the end of the 
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time position. 
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challenges for sure to make sure
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that we offer the right 
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opportunities to develop 
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rotations. 
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important and key because based 
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based on the departments you 
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rotations, you can then really 
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within the organization. 
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You recently just mentioned that
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educational learning journey for
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this Vt journey. 
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that, how flexible is a 
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who are interested in the Vt 
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to update it as, like you 
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technologies and as new 
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curriculum offered at 
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partner universities and maybe 
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flexible. 
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knows exactly what is needed in 
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need this flexibility. 
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the rotations, based on the 
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definitely the opportunity to be
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That means all the learning 
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SAP in our learning landscape 
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So they can also very flexible 
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department A, therefore I need 
content BCD and F so they can 

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take this upfront. 
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during the rotation as an 
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which is needed to be successful
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But on the other hand, it's also
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successful and flexible. 
Otherwise this model will not 

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work. 
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needed in two years up from now.
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make sure that we can achieve 
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definitely not alone as 
everybody has a vocational 

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training or star trainer within 
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They coach, they coach you, they
guide them, they support them 

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during the time as a student to 
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their individual successful 
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Thank you. 
Thank you for that. 

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Marcus, speaking more about the 
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mentioned that each Vt student 
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through what a typical day looks
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the SAP Vocational training 
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converge in SAP? 
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in the first round, about four 
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very intensive onboarding 
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together with your peers, with 
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locations in the classroom based
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the most important basics to 
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rotation into the first 
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It depends on the kind of area 
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organization, but you have in 
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buddy. 
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care about you, who is 
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is responsible for your learning
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you day in, day out to make sure
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So somebody who really supports 
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years of the program from the 
beginning to the end, somebody 

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who looks into your goals, into 
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gives feedback on the very 
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talk. 
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or three years, depending on the
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Trainer gives also 
recommendation if you have 

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achieved your goals. 
And then you get also as much as

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possible support from our side 
to get and to find a permanent 

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role at SAP. 
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The days can look as you said 
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It's really then also depends on
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area where you are. 
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environment, you have no 
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the day. 
You are with your team locally, 

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but also globally. 
I'm pretty sure you have a lot 

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of Microsoft Teams conferences 
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semesters in a situation where 
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can also be possible that you 
travel to customers that you are

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part of those meetings. 
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is also possible based on yeah, 
the duration you have decided to

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go forward. 
In addition to your mentor and 

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to your body within the 
organization, you are definitely

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also very close to connected to 
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your batch mates. 
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lot on community building to 
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alone, that your peers are with 
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same group, that you have some 
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during the week. 
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development opportunities, but 
also something where you can 

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have some fun before or after 
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So this is from my point of view
also very important part that we

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are not only focusing 100% eight
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activities. 
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students, we are talking about 
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intercultural experience. 
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rotation opportunities abroad. 
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to the top 10% students the 
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Is the Vt program currently do 
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new locations or is it already 
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like our big, big lapse in 
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sense also to offer ABT program 
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we at the end of the day are 
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programs, IXP and Vt Star, we 
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business as much as we can to 
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bit more about yourself. 
What is your favorite part about

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leading the vocational training 
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something specific that brings 
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purpose every day. 
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really lead a global 
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Work together with the different
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perspectives, with the different
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this makes me run every day. 
Mark, it's a quick question for 

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you. 
If you could go back and give 

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yourself one piece of advice to 
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career and for most of our 
students and as well as external

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audience listening to this 
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would that advice be? 
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when I have joined SAP or the 
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totally over balanced. 
There were so many new things, 

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so many new technologies to 
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colleagues and so on and so on. 
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I still have a good relationship
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me a lot really to have somebody
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early days at SAP. 
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advice that in case you do not 
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you feel also a little bit 
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please look for somebody in BT 
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the departments who help you, to
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and don't be shy. 
No question is all the questions

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are allowed. 
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that you raise the questions and
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regarding the vocational 
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this is also the foundation. 
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this is the one and only channel
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SAP. 
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programs. 
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our internship experience 
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students, but also for other 
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graduated from university, those
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bachelor or their master degree.
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via special programs. 
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sales, we have a program for 
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on. 
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an early talent have different 
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SAP. 
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see that we have also multiple 
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the perfect start within the 
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Because as I said, I have been 
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many years ago when I have 
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Marcus, for those great insights

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into the into the vocational 
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listening in. 

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If you'd like to have any more 
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out to anyone in SAP regarding 
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and we'll be happy to get back 
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recording, let's go through a 
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questions, right? 
To keep it a bit fun, Johnny 

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first question, early bird or 
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Boss. 
OK, interesting. 

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Favorite SAP memory? 
The favorite SAP memory is when 

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I have visited my first 
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have been a developer. 
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whole career, the most important
experience because I have learnt

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on the hard way how important it
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Interesting. 
One word their colleagues would 

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use to describe you. 
Crazy. 

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Let's say if you could pick up 
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Hard skill or soft skill? 

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Any Definitely. 
It's important that we all get 

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much more familiar with all the 
AI opportunities and offerings 

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from different perspectives. 
First is what is needed for our 

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early talents in the future. 2nd
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possible into in our daily 
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And 3rd is then the same 
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I do a lot of those things with 
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They are all at school. 
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place and we have to get more 
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familiar with it because there's
a huge potential. 

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What my personal favorite quick,
quick question is the best piece

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of advice you've ever received. 
Network. 

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So the best piece I have ever 
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developer in a very introverted 
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There was a new people manager 
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shown me the way how important 
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organization, but also with the 
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outside your organization, with 
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and every early talent OR 
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Networking is the most important
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Absolutely. 
And I think for even personally 

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speaking, I think it's a very 
important skill to have and 

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definitely a very important 
piece of advice everyone should 

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keep in mind. 
What Marcus, before I started 

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this podcast with you and I was 
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did go to try GPT and ask an 
interesting question. 

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I wanted to ask a question from 
GPT. 

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What question it could possibly 
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So basically an AI wants to know
question and it gave a pretty 

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interesting question to ask you.
If AI could learn one fun fact 

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about you using to use in its 
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to know? 
I'm a bad soccer player. 

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based on stereotypes, if you're 
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you're my age, you have played 
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This is true. 
But I'm not good. 

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I have other positive skills and
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That was that was interesting to
know and I think we're very 

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grateful to have the information
part of its training. 

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Well, wrapping up our podcast, 
thank you very much once again 

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for all of our listeners and our
viewers on platforms for this 

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podcast. 
It was a seed. 

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And once again with Marcus Bell,
the global head of Occasional 

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training, it was a pleasure 
having you on the podcast, 

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Marcus. 
Thank you very much for your 

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great insights. 
And remember, once again with 

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the SAP Internship Experience 
Program, you're not just gaining

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experience, but you're expanding
your horizons.

