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It's me, your host Zach Newey 
Towers, looking sexier than ever

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if I do say so myself. 
I just wanted to let you know 

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real quick that I am going on 
tour and I'd love to see you at 

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a live show. 
So real quick I'll be in San 

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Diego, CA May 22nd, Raleigh, NC 
June 16th, Charlotte, NC, June 

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17th San Francisco. 
I'll be at the Punchline all 

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weekend June 25th, 26th and 
27th. 

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London is August 1st, 
Philadelphia September 23rd, St.

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Louis September 24th, Portland, 
OR in October 15th. 

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Also, my special is fully out 
and available to watch for free 

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on YouTube on the Purse First 
Studios channel. 

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It's called Twink Death and I 
think it's very good. 

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I'd love for you to like, 
comment, share if you can. 

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Anyway, enjoy the episode. 
It's Teacher Appreciation Week 

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and I of course volunteered to 
like not be the room mom, but be

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like the room mom assistant. 
What's that even look like? 

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Is it like getting cupcakes and?
It's like, yeah, lots. 

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It's like stuff every day. 
But it's crazy because the mom 

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who's running it is a teacher 
and I'm like. 

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At the school. 
Or a different school and I'm 

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like you shouldn't have to be 
doing this, but I don't have 

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any. 
Looks like a conflict of 

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interest. 
Yeah, so, but like, I guess 

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she's like knowing she knows 
what the she knows what the 

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teachers want. 
Megan Gailey. 

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Teacher Appreciation Week. 
Drama, you know, we as a young 

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mom, yeah. 
Mom of young children, I realize

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how I. 
You're a young mom. 

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Not young. 
You're a child bride of sorts, 

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my children. 
Are young and I am old. 

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No, it's not true. 
Is there like crazy drama 

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amongst the Mamas? 
So my son has I have two sons. 

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The one has not gone to school 
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He's only 10 months and so like 
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Everyone loves him is. 
He a good baby. 

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He is he's such a he is such a 
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issues. 
So he's so good and it's not his

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fault, but I am like, if you had
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it may have only been you. 
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Never again. 
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so, so good and so sweet. 
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week in the hospital 'cause he 
just like went on a hunger 

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strike and and then he has been 
in the ICU. 

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Since Oh my God, that must be 
and levels of cortisol you 

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didn't know were possible. 
I am not well. 

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I am not well. 
It's like I need like a giant 

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like shirt that says I have 
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Oh my God, and my baby's a real 
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Yeah, he's anaphylactic to eggs,
which it's like, Sir, yeah. 

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So we're bind stuff together. 
We're sorting through that. 

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He has asthma, which is like 
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very, very early. 
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eczema. 
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And those three things go 
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That's a in in triple threat. 
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And so, like, at first it was 
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were like, once the other they 
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three. 
So wait, you didn't find out 

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about the egg thing 'cause you 
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Yes, I did. 
Oh, you did. 

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Yes, I did. 
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And there's a lot of, like, fear
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food. 
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like, drive and sit in the 
hospital parking lot when their 

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kids, like, try peanut butter or
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So my husband is anaphylactic to
all seafood. 

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Oh. 
My and you knew this before you 

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married him. 
I did. 

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Wow, I did. 
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It's. 
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Really. 
I love lobster. 

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I used to have a joke about how 
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I made us have sea bass at our 
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We have you. 
There was a turf, there was a 

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serve and a turf. 
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Of course, it was family style, 
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engage it, but it was just like,
yeah, I'm not going to have 

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seafood at my wedding. 
I'm not not going to have my 

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wedding like. 
Have you engaged with like a 

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lobster town of any sort where 
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a stick, fried lobster, lobster.
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sounds high end and and the way 
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like a fair. 
That that counts, honestly. 

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So I've had, I've had a lobster 
corn dog at, I believe like 

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mermaid in in in New York 
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A an old A A a classic a 
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Corn dog. 
You know who the number one 

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lover of corn dogs in the world 
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Who? 
Reba McEntire that tricks out. 

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Reba has all these pictures of 
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she does like, like there's 
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Shit eating grin. 
Yes, there's a picture of her on

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a private plane. 
Like got my corn dog. 

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That is crazy. 
She loves corn dogs. 

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I love corn dogs. 
I had a corn dog last week from 

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Culver's. 
Is that a solid place to get 

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one? 
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a Culver's? 
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It's like, where are you 
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From Saint Louis went to IU. 
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OK, we have beef. 
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Thought you went to Purdue. 
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Purdue. 
Wow, your your campus smelled 

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like manure. 
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Like routinely about it. 
Like ugliest, grossest campus. 

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It sounds cute though. 
Purdue. 

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And then I was just there like, 
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I guess I'm the hottest man. 
We also have there's tons of 

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gorgeous floral trees on the 
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like cum and then sometimes they
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Me not knowing. 
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get a horticulturist out here to
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They're the horniest trees in 
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So sometimes you walk out and 
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And I do believe, remember when 
Wow chips. 

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Oh yeah, with with anal leakage,
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And I was. 
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number on me, me neither. 
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need to keep making them 
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that was doing that was made in 
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So you've got like that smell. 
You've got you're saying manure.

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I, I don't know that maybe I 
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And then you've got this sort of
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smell. 
Wow, you grew up so privileged. 

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I I just, I love it. 
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And when I walked in here, I was
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Oh, no, no, no, I don't know. 
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me. 
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then you. 
I mean, my sophomore year, my 

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second semester freshman year, 
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what it smells like. 
My rental car, I got into it and

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I was like you. 
Have a rental car right now? 

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I have a rental car. 
I haven't been in LA. 

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I've been in Indy for 10 months.
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Year, but I'm coming back. 
Oh, you are. 

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I'll be back full time in 
August. 

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OK wait and I want to push your 
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forgets. 
Let's just yell our special 

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names at each other. 
Can you send some of the twinks 

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to me? 
Yeah. 

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Send some of the twinks to me, 
I'll send some of the drunk. 

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We both have YouTube specials. 
Twink death obviously. 

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Live for my. 
Live for my driveway. 

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So funny. 
Thank you consistently are one 

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of my favorite. 
You're a comic and I literally 

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don't say this, that if you're 
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the room to watch. 
Do you know what I mean that? 

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Means a lot to me. 
Well, yeah, 'cause some people 

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are leaving the room, so I need 
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Coming in, they're misogynists. 
I need people coming in. 

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What was the experience of doing
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What was the AN? 
Apologies if you've said this a 

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million times in different 
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What was like the where'd it 
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What was the organic thing of 
doing it from your driveway? 

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So I wanted to film a special 
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and I wanted to do 30 minutes 
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baby and I was pregnant like 
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protocols. 
And then, oh, is it Omicronic? 

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Some, some strands resurfaced. 
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And my, and my doctor was like, 
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be out doing your term of stand 
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Well, there's a global pandemic 
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Oh, you're telling my dad? 
OK, rude. 

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And then Rosebud did like an she
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They were these were separate 
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They they were the version that 
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And so it just sort of was like,
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And the reason is because I was 
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pregnant, then I'm never going 
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Yeah, 'cause it's. 
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I just was like this after you 
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You're tired. 
I forget word like your baby. 

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You're not at your best and 
Happy Mother's Day. 

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So I was like, I got to do it. 
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I wanted to do it outside 
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Really. 
I love for that. 

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Wait. 
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Love them. 
What about them, 'cause I in my 

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Oh, get the fuck out of here I. 
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if I could. 
What I did appreciate about Zoom

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was I'll never forget the first 
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They've been owe me $90.00 after
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stand up comedy you. 
Didn't even have to leave your 

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Crazy. 

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Well, in LA we're conditioned to
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Yeah, if that. 
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being pantsless like. 
I would spend, I would do some 

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laying in bed, like I would be 
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could tell it wasn't like, oh, I
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alt. 
Showcase. 

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I remember towards the end it 
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like sometimes almost no cameras
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delivering jokes into the void. 
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during that time was I'm fine 
with that. 

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This is like, I know this is 
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I, well, I just, I like, I tell 
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I didn't need to hear laughter. 
I just needed a space to yell 

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like the laughter is like so. 
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So funny. 
Like I'm like, oh, will I bomb 

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in my bed? 
Yeah, y'all bomb in my bed. 

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So it's like lowest stakes. 
I think also for me, there's an 

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element of like it's not being 
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men, this exists too. 
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scary. 
Being out in the world at night 

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is scary. 
Travelling is scary, driving is 

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like, there are so many 
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over the course of my career 
that I'm like, I actually 

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probably should be dead for sure
crazy things. 

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And so you take that element 
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that takes so much anxiety out 
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So it's like, yeah, OK. 
Are there less laughs? 

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Yeah. 
And I is like a man. 

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I don't even think is funny. 
Not gonna grab my pussy. 

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Great. 
I'll, you know, like, like when 

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I heard grabbing by the pussy, I
was like, Oh yeah, a terrible 

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comedian did that to me at like 
a riverboat show in Kentucky. 

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Like I have been grabbed by the 
pussy by SO. 

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That's by funny losers. 
So it's like, yeah. 

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I'll be on Zoom. 
It's even like even in. 

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Green rooms because this happens
to only a gay guy, only a girl, 

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rest straight comics and they're
just throwing it up and you're 

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looking in your notebook and 
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It's not a fun environment. 
Half the time was like waiting 

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to do my set. 
And I, I like sports. 

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So like, I can talk to evil 
people. 

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You know, we'll find some sort 
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like, and maybe that was born 
out of like, feeling like I have

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to have something to talk to 
these people about. 

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Have you always liked sports, 
though? 

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Yeah. 
Have you? 

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OK because it is a sex podcast. 
Do you have any like athlete 

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crushes? 
Yeah. 

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Oh, OK yeah. 
Is that part of it too? 

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The. 
Number one, people I'm attracted

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to. 
Really. 

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Oh yeah. 
Any sport specific? 

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So hey Otani, does he? 
Does he watch and listen? 

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Yeah, he's the tower bottom. 
He totally. 

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Wow. 
OK, well, you know, he's 

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actually verse 'cause he does 
both. 

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He pitches and hits. 
Is that what's called verse? 

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Yeah. 
OK, catches and catches and 

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pitches so. 
He is like kind of. 

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Is that is that common in? 
No, no, no, no. 

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It's so it's he is, he will 
probably. 

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This is baseball. 
This is baseball. 

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He is on the Dodgers. 
He is a six foot 3 Japanese 

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Disney Prince Who is the best 
pitcher and the best hitter? 

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That's crazy. 
Could you imagine someone being 

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the best top and the best 
bottom? 

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I mean, they they are out there.
Wow. 

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But but it is rare. 
It is rare. 

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OK, OK, but. 
It is rare. 

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Also, they deserve to be 
celebrated. 

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Do you remember watching? 
Baseball games when you were a 

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kid and you're like, look at 
these old men. 

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Yeah. 
And then now I'm like, oh, 

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they're letting 17 year olds 
play professional sports. 

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It's very actually I have a joke
about this on my special Oh. 

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OK, I'm just. 
Feeling about how now I have to 

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be attracted to the coaches 
cause I've aged out. 

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Of like you have a child you are
a MILF whether you want to be or

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not, no. 
So like, I'll see a coordinator,

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I'll see a man with a tablet and
go, OK, what's going on with 

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him? 
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are like, my husband will be 
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He's cool. 
I'm like, he's cute. 

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And he's like Megan, he's 20. 
And I'm like. 

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So scary. 
So I am sexually. 

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Attracted to a lot of the 
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Also, if he if if a player came 
at me in my DMS and I welcome 

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you to please, I'm not turning 
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legal age. 
If he's 20, I will give it a go.

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I'll give it a go of. 
Course I was at NBA All Star 

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weekend like 2 years ago. 
What's an All Star weekend look 

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like? 
Is that showcasing or is that a 

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game? 
So it's different for each 

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league. 
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The NFL there's is called the 
Pro Bowl and they used to play a

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game and it used to be in Hawaii
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little. 
Like now they just do little 

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obstacle courses in Orlando 
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Is like training activities sort
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Or look how hard I can throw. 
People were getting hurt in it 

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and then like. 
Like we can't lose a player over

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a frivolous game. 
Yes. 

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And so then they were like, 
let's just have like, let's just

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put on bucket hats and see who 
can throw it the farthest. 

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And like, it's cute. 
It is cute. 

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To go from Hawaii to Orlando is 
jarring. 

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Tough. 
Yeah. 

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But I went to the Pro Bowl one 
year too. 

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And it's like fans go and they 
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touched by an Angel. 
Oh, really interesting. 

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If you talk to someone, they're 
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like for fun. 
I don't. 

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I wouldn't let them like drive 
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Oh, interesting. 
They're like a little salt of 

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the earth off and it's because 
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It I don't even know why you 
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OK, I don't even know why you 
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If they were like scantily clad 
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like loose fitting basketball 
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They're wearing like short 
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I love short shorts shirts. 
Off and they're doing yeah funny

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funny cute little challenges OK 
some people like it are there 

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any pro athlete guys like 
killing it on TikTok yes NBA 

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there was a guy. 
I feel like there was an 

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Olympian boy who was really 
going hard on TikTok. 

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The Olympians are yeah, because 
they have like, you know, 

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they're like every every four 
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In the meantime, I can 
definitely learn dances. 

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There was a guy, he was like a 
he was a rookie, I believe he 

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was on the Pistons. 
He painted his nails and he was 

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like huge on TikTok and then. 
If you had to guess, what sport 

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is Pistons? 
Yeah, well, I know what it is. 

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Well, it's basketball. 
OK, it's basketball. 

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You know who does really well on
TikTok is the wives. 

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Oh. 
Really. 

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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 
The there's a lot of Wags 

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content because it's like, 
here's my outfit, here's the 

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funny things I'm doing make my 
protein smoothie for my for 

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Jake. 
Yes, yes, yes, or. 

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Like it's like a whole baby goat
into like a blender. 

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There's a lot of I follow a lot 
of professional athletes, chefs.

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Instagram too, I bet that is. 
Fun. 

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And some of them are like hot 
women. 

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And I'm like, oh, killing two 
birds with one stone. 

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I see. 
Yeah, I see. 

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Going back to like when you 
first started dating boys and 

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like sexually active I guess, 
were you into like the athletic 

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boys at your school? 
Yes. 

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Did you date in high school? 
Yeah, I guess I had like, 

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boyfriends. 
I didn't ever. 

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I never said like, I love you. 
And I didn't even have sex in 

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high school. 
When well, OK, do you remember 

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your first orgasm? 
Probably by myself. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's common.
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
But like high school? 

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Maybe middle school? 
OK, what was the vibe on sex in 

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your household? 
Were people talking about it or 

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was it like very like? 
I have two older brothers and 

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SO. 
What a curse, kind of. 

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I mean to to hear about sex. 
From from that teen boys that 

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are older than you that you have
to live with nightmare yeah I 

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remember once picking up because
this was before cell phones like

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picking up our. 
Oh, the landline. 

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The landline household phone and
my brother's friend was calling 

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and he thought just my brother 
was there and I was probably 

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like 12 years old. 
I picked up the phone and he 

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goes, I've already jerked off 7 
times today. 

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And I was like, so it was like, 
yeah, there was like a lot of 

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like male testosterone around. 
And then like I played sports, 

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but then I also did theatre and 
my mom let me have Coed 

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sleepovers after plays 'cause 
she just assumed every boy was 

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gay. 
But then there were like these 

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two deaf boys who were not gay 
twins, twin deaf boys and they. 

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Yeah. 
And so like, yeah, they were 

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definitely like that. 
We were, I was having a Coed 

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sleepover. 
I wasn't doing anything. 

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But I think maybe there were 
people that like definitely 

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hooked. 
Up were the deaf twins cute? 

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Yeah, they were. 
And also like the, you know, the

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bar is so low for boys in 
theatre, like a straight boy in 

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theatre. 
Oh, you're just like, cleaning 

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up, cleaning up, cleaning up. 
Wow. 

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And it's weird that she assumed 
they were all gay because my 

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brother was in theatre and he 
was straight. 

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What's straight still is 
straight still is straight. 

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So I don't like it. 
It was like her own theory had 

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been proven wrong in her own 
home. 

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But maybe she saw, she saw my 
crew and she was like. 

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Oh, there's, there's no threat, 
No. 

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Threat 1 attacked. 
Was she Were your parents 

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protective of you in the realm 
of sex and dating? 

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Very yes. 
Like, yes, 'cause my mom was a 

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nurse, a labour and delivery 
nurse. 

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Oh my God. 
And so she, you know, she had 

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delivered 14 year olds. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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And then, and then she started 
teaching at the high school that

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my, she's taught at the 
vocational high school that my 

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high school fed into. 
So like I had friends who had my

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mom as a teacher. 
So it was like she was a nurse 

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and a high school teacher. 
She once we had a snow day and 

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my mom always had access to a 
like 70 slides of photos of St. 

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DS like at their, you know, like
stages and then and she made my 

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brother and I sit in her bedroom
and look at all of these slides 

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of St. 
DS before we were allowed to go 

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out and play in the snow. 
In case you fuck a snowman or 

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something. 
So like nurse moms are like the 

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best because like, nothing 
grosses them out. 

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I mean, and like, they, they're 
unfazible, but then also they've

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seen so much. 
So like, they at least my mom 

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was like a little probably 
overprotective because 

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everything was like scary to 
her. 

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Oh yeah. 
They're also really good in an 

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emergency where it's like you 
have a cut, there's more blood 

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than you've ever seen, like sit 
down like. 

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My mom is so excited when 
someone needs a nurse in public.

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Like she's waiting for someone 
to get injured on a flight and 

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they're gonna be like. 
She's sticking her foot out. 

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Oh my God, she like we were at 
my son's like breakfast with 

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Santa and like an older gal 
fainted and my mom, I didn't I 

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didn't see her the whole time. 
Like it was like she's like, 

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fuck Santa. 
I I'm needed like I am Doctor 

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Quinn. 
Medicine woman and like. 

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Everyone really like she loves 
it. 

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I think she's standing for SO. 
Then be able to go. 

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I'm here very Munchausen, yeah. 
Is that that Munchausen? 

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Munchausen by proxy is yeah, I 
think when you're. 

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Like you convince someone you're
sick or yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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Yeah. 
And then Munchausen is just like

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you. 
Interesting. 

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Yeah. 
That'd be a kind of a funny TV 

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show or movie. 
My mom the like, yeah, crazy 

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nurse it. 
Yeah, it's like Sixth Sense, but

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like happy. 
Yeah. 

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Wait, can you talk about your 
first? 

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Time Well, what's really sad is 
I don't know because I like went

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through like a real phase that 
was many years long where we get

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like blackout drunk. 
And so I actually do not know. 

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OK, that's beautiful. 
It's really like I and like I, 

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I, I know when the you know, and
I'm like an older millennial. 

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And so it's like. 
I'm. 

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Yeah, I turned 40 this year and,
and so that I think like around 

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me too. 
And as like as there's been sort

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of a shift in how we talk about 
like it was like, oh, I so I, I 

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guess if you're not, if you're 
not able to consent, that's 

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assault. 
And it was just like, oh, that's

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not how I. 
I had waves of that too. 

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Yeah, that didn't exist for like
you don't have sex with people 

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to be polite or you don't have 
you. 

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You can say no even though like 
yes, you've given you've gone a 

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part way down the. 
Path Yes Yes yes yes, yes I. 

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I yeah, I learned a lot, I guess
me too movement and on maybe 

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before that, but I was just 
like, wow. 

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And then memory service. 
I also black got blackout drunk 

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a lot. 
'Cause you're sober? 

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No. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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And I'm not you would think you 
would think give him these. 

451
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,120
I'm obviously like fine fine 
fine well, but like married, 

452
00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:19,520
have children. 
And you? 

453
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,080
Know have overcome, but I think 
it what was the there was an HBO

454
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,480
show It was. 
Michaela, this will destroy you.

455
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,880
Or this? 
Will destroy you like I remember

456
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,040
watching. 
Oh my God, I had to stop. 

457
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,760
And I was like, oh, yeah. 
Well, that like, yeah, happens. 

458
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080
That's like, happened. 
And he was like, what? 

459
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,440
And I'm like, oh, that's 
probably happened to like every 

460
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,680
almost every woman you know, I 
know of. 

461
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,600
And so I know, I think. 
And and that was why that show 

462
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,440
that the name we were reaching 
for, I think had such a cultural

463
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,120
impact because it was like, Oh 
yeah. 

464
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:58,360
It's like it's, it's 
illuminating, a thing that's 

465
00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:02,320
very common but is probably not 
talked about talked about ever 

466
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,080
because it is like layered. 
Yeah, yeah. 

467
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,800
Was do you think that set? 
And if at any point you just 

468
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,920
don't want to talk about it, 
just let me know. 

469
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,960
Did any of it like feed into a 
cycle where then you like did 

470
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,680
feel compelled to drink heavily 
when you were approaching a 

471
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,800
sexual like like a yes? 
Yeah, yes, yes, yes. 

472
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,560
And like this was all in 
college. 

473
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,840
So this was like pre like I 
wasn't in grain. 

474
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,080
Alcohol in like a Tupperware 
cog. 

475
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,640
Absolutely. 
And then I think there's 

476
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,760
probably an element too of like,
oh, well, that's the girl that 

477
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,000
will get wasted and have sex 
with you. 

478
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,480
So then like, sure, yeah, it was
cool. 

479
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,240
But it was like, and it's like, 
oh, OK, well, let's let's get 

480
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,480
her some some drinks. 
And like, I also too, 'cause I 

481
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,840
was in a sorority, I went to a 
Big 10 school. 

482
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,280
Like that is definitely like 
elements of it. 

483
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,520
I was, I was never having sex 
with anyone that anyone else 

484
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,240
wanted. 
Interesting. 

485
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,040
So it wasn't like, oh, she 
sounds like I would. 

486
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:09,680
I have never had crossover with 
like my friends. 

487
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,240
Sure, sure, sure. 
You haven't been the other girl 

488
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,440
with no. 
No, it's been like like in in 

489
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,520
college, like I was hooking up 
with lots of like, I guess like 

490
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,080
there were some frat boys, but a
lot of it was like athletes too.

491
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,880
And like, the sorority girls 
were like, Oh my God, what? 

492
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,280
They didn't like that. 
I think it was just like like I,

493
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,960
I have dated like outside of my 
race since I was in middle 

494
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:38,480
school and growing up where I 
grew up that was like extremely 

495
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:44,160
stigmatized and like talked to 
me by adults that were not my 

496
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,480
parents countless times. 
And the sorority life couldn't 

497
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,720
have. 
Yeah, I think it was like, I 

498
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,120
think I remember like I have 
friends that they're like, I 

499
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,720
remember you saying you had like
dated a black guy in college. 

500
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,000
And that was like, I was like, 
how is this girl in our 

501
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,280
sorority? 
Not even like they were just 

502
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,560
like, oh, I they thought they, 
they thought I was like a wigga.

503
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,680
Crazy and. 
And I don't, my husband says 

504
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,000
we're not, we can't say that 
word anymore. 

505
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,000
And I'm like, then you have to 
find me another one. 

506
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,080
It comes up rarely for me these 
days. 

507
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:28,120
That's your second child's name.
Because it's just so it's so 

508
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,560
specific. 
And also, I'm back in the 

509
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,120
Midwest and that's like. 
Oh my God, wait. 

510
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:37,200
Yeah, that's such a prototype of
a person that I like. 

511
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,720
Indianapolis is the headquarters
for them. 

512
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,920
For sure my bisexual drug dealer
that I would have sex with in 

513
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:49,360
college buried that Nelson and 
he was like pants like suspended

514
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:55,320
in disbelief below his flat ass 
like kind of like the the 

515
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,040
shuffle and. 
They're not for me, sure. 

516
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:03,000
Oh, well, yeah, it's it's in. 
It's an interesting archetype. 

517
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,360
Could they still exist? 
Oh, they. 

518
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,920
Exist, and some of them are 
fathers now. 

519
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,880
I, I, I think most of them are 
probably fathers of some sort. 

520
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,760
Did you? 
After college you went to 

521
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:24,640
Chicago and you started doing 
comedy and then what was like 

522
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,440
dating and sex life at post 
college? 

523
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,720
So I was in Chicago, a lot of 
people from Purdue moved to 

524
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,080
Chicago. 
So I had my college friends 

525
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,360
there. 
I knew some like hometown 

526
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:42,560
people, like people from Indy 
and then also comedy scene. 

527
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:48,520
And so when I started doing 
stand up in Chicago, like 3 

528
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,840
girls, myself included, started 
within like a year of each 

529
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,800
other. 
It was myself, MO Welch and Lisa

530
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,080
Traeger and so oh. 
My God. 

531
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,440
All three like I think MO and I 
started like in Chicago in like 

532
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,400
the same month. 
Like it was like we may have 

533
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,440
been at like 1 of the same first
like. 

534
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,480
What did you study? 
In college I started as an Econ 

535
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,440
major and then I switched to 
theater and sports broadcasting.

536
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,040
Do you know you wanted to do 
stand up though? 

537
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,280
I like didn't even know that 
that was. 

538
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,440
A thing like an option? 
Yeah, I, I guess I, I wanted to 

539
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,920
be a sideline reporter, OK. 
And I like, you know, worked 

540
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,840
like around that, had an 
internship at like a, a news 

541
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,200
station in Chicago, worked for 
like a sports website in 

542
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,720
college. 
So I like dabbled around it. 

543
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,400
But yeah, I graduated in 2008. 
There were no jobs. 

544
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,640
So I was like, OK, great. 
I didn't really want to get a 

545
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,000
job. 
I guess I'll just go do mics, do

546
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:49,400
mics. 
And so it was like, there were 

547
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,480
so few of us. 
And it's like, it's very hard 

548
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,680
for women in comedy. 
Like everyone is trying to have 

549
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,760
sex with us all the time. 
And it's really stigmatize if 

550
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,440
you become like a. 
Girl in Comedy and. 

551
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,760
It's like, I'm always just like,
who fucking cares? 

552
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,160
Like imagine if they were in our
situation. 

553
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:14,920
And so I had like an on again 
off again like guy I was with 

554
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,280
sort of like the whole time I 
was in Chicago and then had like

555
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,960
one other serious voice and that
guy was a comic and then had one

556
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,200
other like serious ish boyfriend
who was not a comic, was like a 

557
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,240
normal person. 
And then. 

558
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,240
But I probably made out with 
like every comedian in Chicago. 

559
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:40,160
I think that's fine. 
Totally what except my husband? 

560
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,960
Wait, really? 
Yes, like we knew each other for

561
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,160
eight years and then we had 
just. 

562
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,000
Friendly. 
Oh, wait, totally friends. 

563
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,880
But you were friends. 
Yeah, friends and good friends. 

564
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,120
Wait, talk to me about that. 
Because, like, isn't that kind 

565
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,160
of the dream? 
You crossed the line with a 

566
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,120
friend. 
Yeah. 

567
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,880
That you do feel comfortable 
with. 

568
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,960
And you. 
Was it a switch moment or had 

569
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,280
you always had like a little bit
of a crush or? 

570
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,160
Had never had a single thing and
I always like, we were always 

571
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,440
friends. 
I always like liked him. 

572
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,200
There's like so many pictures of
us from when we were like 20-3 

573
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,080
years old, like laughing. 
Yeah, just in the same We're on 

574
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,440
the same coffee table. 
Him in my apartment that I lived

575
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,880
with it with like 2 girls from 
college and he was like, oh, I 

576
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,240
just always was like, wow, 
Megan's such a grown up, you 

577
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,160
know, 'cause my apartment wasn't
like disgusting. 

578
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,680
Totally, totally. 
We paid 600. 

579
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,600
I paid $600 a month in rent. 
You know, it's like I was like I

580
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,560
was a bartender and I paid $600 
a month. 

581
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:43,000
I was not a grown up. 
And then so we knew each other 

582
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:48,800
in Chicago. 
He moved to New York while while

583
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,360
we were all in there's, you 
know, there's like a larger like

584
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,120
your class or whatever. 
He moved to New York, then he 

585
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,440
came back. 
We still remained friends. 

586
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,680
He had a very serious girlfriend
during that time. 

587
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,120
And then I think I, he went to 
LA like before anyone else did. 

588
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,400
I went to New York, then we 
crisscrossed. 

589
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,720
Then I came to LA. 
He went to New York. 

590
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,080
We were still friends. 
The 2016 election happened, and 

591
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,240
I was like, I celebrating. 
Yeah. 

592
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,080
I was just like, oh, thank God, 
all my dreams are true. 

593
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,840
And I was like, OK, I I what can
I do? 

594
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,800
How can I help? 
And for me, that manifested as I

595
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,320
will not be having sex with a 
white man until this man is out 

596
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,720
of office because no, you're cut
off, not gonna do it. 

597
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,640
And obviously I've already 
explained that like it was 

598
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,600
minimal. 
So the, the, the white man I was

599
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,040
attracted to was like minimal. 
And then I was going to New York

600
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,960
to shoot a pilot. 
Oh, my God. 

601
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,960
Comedy Central. 
Yeah. 

602
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,240
It was like a travel show that 
was called Highbrow Lowbrow. 

603
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,320
And it was myself and Ramon 
Rivas. 

604
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,080
And him and I were going to go 
to cities. 

605
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,440
And we're Ramon Rivas. 
Ivan. 

606
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,160
Yeah. 
Wow. 

607
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,880
OK. 
So this is 2016. 

608
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,200
And so he was. 
Well, I guess it was 2015 

609
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,480
because. 
Wait, no, it was 2016, end of 

610
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,920
2016. 
So Ramon was going to get to 

611
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,920
pick like divey things we did, 
and then I was going to pick 

612
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,320
like hydro fans we did, yeah. 
And it was really fun. 

613
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,120
It's. 
Fish out of water, buddies. 

614
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,520
Yeah. 
And so we shot the Pilot in 

615
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,160
Philadelphia, but we, like, did 
all the prep and stuff in New 

616
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:33,680
York. 
And so I went to a Colts, Jets, 

617
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,880
Monday Night Football game. 
And then I was staying at this 

618
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,120
Airbnb. 
And it had been like, such a 

619
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,280
bitch to get into that. 
I was like, I'm breaking every 

620
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,040
rule, you know, like, I'm 
smoking weed. 

621
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,920
I'm like, I could like, see the 
cameras. 

622
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,040
And I was like, yeah, it took me
two hours to get in. 

623
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,720
I'm gonna blow a cigarette into 
your pillow. 

624
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,160
Like, I don't fucking care at 
this point. 

625
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,720
And so I invited CJ, my husband 
over, not a white man. 

626
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,800
And I was like, like we had he 
had come to my apartment in 

627
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,680
Studio City. 
I was living with a friend. 

628
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,040
This is like before the New York
trip. 

629
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,840
And we were like smoking weed, 
watching football, drinking like

630
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,400
mimosas. 
And then when he left, I came 

631
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,840
back in and I was like said to 
my room And I was like, I feel 

632
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,920
like I was about to kiss him 
like, and it's like, I'm a slut.

633
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,560
So it's like kissing someone is 
like, I would make out with you 

634
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,960
on camera right now. 
Like just like not even that big

635
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,719
of a deal. 
But it was like. 

636
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,040
So strange. 
And my roommate was like. 

637
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,080
You guys were on a full blown 
date and neither one of you 

638
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,040
talked to me the whole time. 
Like she was like, yeah, it was 

639
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,520
like she was like I was. 
A full. 

640
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,679
I felt it. 
Yeah, I was. 

641
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,040
Yeah, so I went to New York, I 
hit him up. 

642
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,679
He came over after Monday Night 
Football, which is like midnight

643
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,560
brought like weed and a six pack
and then we just hung out and 

644
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,080
nothing happened. 
And so I was like, oh, OK. 

645
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,719
Then it was just like there was 
just like a thing because we 

646
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,960
were like high and drunk and 
whatever. 

647
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,760
And so I sort of think nothing 
of it. 

648
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,600
He went to his job the next day 
and he works. 

649
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,520
He worked in sports and was 
like, you know, this like bro 

650
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,840
dynamic, you know, Wes Wilson 
who's like in trouble in the 

651
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,440
news right now. 
He also worked at the. 

652
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Company. 
Is he a sports? 

653
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,600
Guy, yeah, but he's on Summer 
House. 

654
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,640
And he. 
Oh yeah. 

655
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,800
With Sierra, yeah. 
Yes, so he like goes to work and

656
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,280
it's like I fucking she had me 
over and I like blew it like I 

657
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,640
didn't even make a move. 
I did nothing. 

658
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,240
And so then I was doing a show 
right by his apartment like 2 

659
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:27,120
nights later. 
I do this show, it's a lot of 

660
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,560
our friends from Chicago. 
He comes and we both start 

661
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:37,360
getting drunk and then we went 
back to his apartment and his 

662
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,600
line was if I lived in Lai would
date you. 

663
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,320
And then I was like. 
I wish I could find a girl like 

664
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,080
you. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

665
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:45,240
OK. 
I. 

666
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,600
Guess that's good enough. 
And so we have sex. 

667
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,840
And then I thought, it's like, 
so sad. 

668
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,960
I hope my children never see 
this. 

669
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,520
And then no. 
Wait, I don't want you to do a 

670
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,400
thing be my fiance thing that 
like. 

671
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,680
No. 
Oh, I don't know. 

672
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,360
I've like I my children are 
gonna have to eat. 

673
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,960
So many horrific mud now, but so
much fun. 

674
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,280
They're gonna be like, Oh, my 
mom is nuts. 

675
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,960
And I thought it was like one 
time thing, you know, just like,

676
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,920
I'll have sex with a friend, 
whatever, done it before, do it 

677
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,360
again. 
And then he really courted me 

678
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,000
and fell in love with me, 
obviously. 

679
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,880
And when I got back, he came and
met me in Philadelphia 'cause I 

680
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,920
was staying in this crazy like 
hotel, 'cause we were filming in

681
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,680
my suite. 
So we came. 

682
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,920
That's lucky. 
Hooked up again. 

683
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,000
When I got back to LA, there 
were flowers waiting for me. 

684
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,920
He kept coming to visit and then
I was like, I don't want to do 

685
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,360
long distance like this sucks. 
And he was like, I'll come in a 

686
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,160
year And I was like, honey, I'm 
not going to be available in a 

687
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,600
year. 
And then he quit his job and 

688
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,360
moved here. 
Before the year. 

689
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:56,760
Oh yeah, like next day. 
Oh my God, did that scare you? 

690
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,320
Yeah, and I was such a bitch 
about it. 

691
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,720
I was like, well, you're not 
coming here for me. 

692
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,400
You're coming here 'cause you 
want to be back in LA, you know,

693
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,560
'cause he had tons of friends 
here. 

694
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,920
I was like, we're not living 
together. 

695
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,240
We like, I was a bitch. 
Like 2 days after he got there I

696
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:14,280
went to Australia for two weeks 
for shows and and yeah I was 

697
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,840
like a total bitch to this man 
who had like quit his dream job 

698
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,560
to move across the country for 
me and had a therapist. 

699
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,520
That would terrify me. 
I don't think I, I don't think 

700
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,040
I'd be able to handle that well.
So much pressure and so that's 

701
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,320
why I was just like this. 
You decided this. 

702
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,080
I don't even like you. 
I don't even know your name, you

703
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,920
know, like just. 
Like you block him. 

704
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,880
Get out of my apartment, find 
your own fucking apartment, do 

705
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,800
your own shit. 
And then like I, I had like a 

706
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,040
therapist at the time who then 
broke up with me. 

707
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,400
Wait really? 
Well, she was just like, I think

708
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,400
you're good, which is like she 
knew I wasn't like you're like. 

709
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,600
You're like, this is malpractice
and if something happens to me, 

710
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,720
it's on your head. 
You know, I'm not healed. 

711
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,360
And now I'm you're saying we 
don't need to see each other. 

712
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,960
So. 
And she was like, would it be so

713
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,200
bad if you just admitted that he
moved for you? 

714
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,360
And I'm like, yeah. 
Yeah, because then it's crazy. 

715
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,320
Then it's crazy. 
Do you do you get into the 

716
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,080
attachment styles at all like 
anxious, avoidant, secure? 

717
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,680
No. 
Do any of those words only the 

718
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,280
love language? 
OK, OK. 

719
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,000
Anxious attachment secure. 
Anxious, avoidant or secure? 

720
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,720
OK, two of them are ringing very
true for me. 

721
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:31,400
Anxious and detached. 
Anxious, avoidant, anxious. 

722
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,440
And avoidant. 
Yeah, interesting. 

723
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,120
Yeah, sure. 
Right. 

724
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,000
Yeah, I mean. 
Secure. 

725
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,080
Who is secure? 
Exactly. 

726
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,080
It's like people they're they're
less least likely to be in the 

727
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,720
dating pool, according to this 
book. 

728
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:45,160
Because they're in 
relationships. 

729
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:48,240
Well, they're just like I 
anxious people are like kind of 

730
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:51,360
like looking for confirmation 
that you like them. 

731
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,880
Hey, he hasn't texted back. 
He hasn't. 

732
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,920
But avoidance like playing it 
cool. 

733
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,680
OK so I'm anxious and then 
attempt to be avoidance and I've

734
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:06,680
never been secure. 
I mean, surely you you felt 

735
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,480
secure in this relationship? 
I feel secure, Yeah, yeah, in my

736
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,440
in my marriage. 
But I'm still probably like, 

737
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,560
like, can you have these with 
your children? 

738
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,040
Yeah, I think so. 
Which one are you? 

739
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,360
Oh, avoidant to achieve 
avoidant. 

740
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,760
Avoidant never made it past a 
year. 

741
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,240
Definitely like a cat vibes 
where I'm like I do want 

742
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:31,320
infection, but I want it to be 
on my terms and like don't 

743
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,040
smother me. 
Yeah wow, I'm so. 

744
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,840
Oh, thirsty. 
Really. 

745
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,120
Yeah. 
And I also thought every guy I 

746
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,040
dated I was going to marry. 
Oh really? 

747
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,120
Yeah, even after the 1st 10. 
I mean, I actually that's 

748
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,680
probably. 
A good sign because you're like,

749
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,920
I know you. 
You're. 

750
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,360
Confident, yeah. 
But I think it also, I think 

751
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,000
it's like confidence that's like
probably masking insecurity. 

752
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,240
Sure. 
Oh, so you're like telling 

753
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:01,280
yourself. 
Yeah, I think I'm going to. 

754
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,480
Like I think every man who I'm 
not married to must be gay. 

755
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,200
Well, also to for to this 
effect, you were right because 

756
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,800
CJ, yeah. 
And the only two men on earth 

757
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,000
are CJ and Neo. 
Yeah. 

758
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,800
So it's like, I'm married to my 
husband and then you're gay. 

759
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,320
So it's like, well, I guess. 
And the make out and the make 

760
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:26,240
out's still on the table. 
That's so interesting with the 

761
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:27,680
kids. 
You're anxious. 

762
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:33,280
No, no, I'm actually secure with
the kids like I no, I. 

763
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,680
Like do my kids think I'm? 
Cool, I love them so much, but 

764
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,160
like there is 'cause I have two 
boys and so people, you know, 

765
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,640
boy mom is like a thing and like
a trope and it's talked about 

766
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,520
and it's and so people will 
always be like boys love their 

767
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,160
moms, you know, like that's like
a real and my oldest is now like

768
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,240
obsessed with me. 
I'm his number one, but like I 

769
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,360
wasn't for like a little bit. 
I'm sure that will wax and wane.

770
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,760
It will and I'm not going to be 
OK with that. 

771
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,280
Yeah, that is where you'll have 
to either start blacking out 

772
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,120
again or or playing it real, 
real cool. 

773
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,160
I cannot and I don't want to 
feed into any anxieties you 

774
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,440
might have. 
I cannot conceive of the idea of

775
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,520
having a child and letting it go
outside of the house. 

776
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,760
Yeah, it's hard. 
Couldn't do it. 

777
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,480
It's really hard and there the 
news is hard. 

778
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,120
Yeah. 
Yeah, every, every time. 

779
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,000
I'm like a place. 
I'm like, oh, I could die here. 

780
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,120
Yeah, you know, 'cause I oh, 
every. 

781
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,120
Time I'm at the Grove, I'm like 
we're moments away from. 

782
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:48,160
Yeah, and there are ones that 
like hit me harder than others. 

783
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,040
Yeah. 
The the schools. 

784
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,400
Oh, my God, like so horrific. 
But then there was like the the 

785
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,280
4th of July parade, like the 
movie theaters, like there's 

786
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,040
just like you're just like, oh, 
there's no, there's no. 

787
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,560
Space. 
And then you're in a movie and 

788
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,760
someone walks in mid movie and 
stands there and you're like, 

789
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:11,840
yeah, what are you doing? 
When I was pregnant, I was like,

790
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,240
oh, I'm a sitting duck. 
Which? 

791
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:18,320
Is a big fat target. 
Probably can't run as fast as 

792
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,400
the other people. 
Because the number one cause of 

793
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,400
death in pregnant women is 
homicides. 

794
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,640
Yeah. 
And I was like, well, C JS not 

795
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,280
going to kill me, but I could 
piss someone else off. 

796
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,920
You know, like CJ likes me. 
And he, like, needs me. 

797
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,720
I think women probably have it 
the worst as comedians online. 

798
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:41,280
Has that ever been like, oh, 
it's scary, scary 00? 

799
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,120
Yeah, yeah, and because I talk 
mad shit about men like I hate 

800
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,120
men. 
As you should. 

801
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,520
Like I'm like I hate men. 
I talk mad shit about men. 

802
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,640
I talk mad. 
I run my mouth like I felt. 

803
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,520
Dressed Wallow. 
Yeah, yeah. 

804
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,400
Love her. 
She's so, I mean, she's a master

805
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,040
of the craft. 
Yes, I'm aggressive, aggressive 

806
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,840
and I'm not for everyone. 
Obviously no one is. 

807
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,680
But yeah, they hate me. 
And I'm also overtly political, 

808
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,240
my specialist political like I 
like there's. 

809
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:19,800
No, there's no like, confusion. 
No I have opinions about 

810
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,600
everything down to like parmesan
cheese. 

811
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:27,000
Like I am fucking a mean, 
aggressive, opinionated you. 

812
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,440
Really have one about Parmesan 
cheese. 

813
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,760
It's like what format you're 
coming because I'm not loving 

814
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,800
the big like the long, like the 
the shit, the flakes. 

815
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,560
Well you know what's crazy? 
Because everybody's on this 

816
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,240
fucking protein kick. 
Yeah I'm just so tired of 

817
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:47,920
hearing about strangers protein 
intake but parmesan cheese has 

818
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,000
been discovered that it is the 
most densely like. 

819
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,680
Protein. 
Rich and so people are like 

820
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,960
going. 
Crazy for protein. 

821
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,320
Yeah. 
Fucking like smashing broccoli 

822
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,480
into parmesan. 
And so I guess like, my opinion 

823
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,720
is we stop. 
Like we liked it. 

824
00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:06,560
We liked it before, you know, 
when like stuff came out and 

825
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,920
they were like, oh, it's been 
gluten free. 

826
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,920
It's like, well then don't tell 
me. 

827
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,880
I mean, that's marketing, you 
know, because they'll be like, 

828
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,600
yeah, they'll be like orange 
juice, gluten free. 

829
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,600
And you're like, yeah, I do 
think there was gluten in this. 

830
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,800
But people like, people are so 
dumb in our country. 

831
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,320
Like wildly dumb, so dumb, which
is a bummer. 

832
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,920
It's a really big. 
Bummer. 

833
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,680
Sometimes I I do have to go down
the compassionate route, be 

834
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,800
like, this person probably 
doesn't even think this. 

835
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,400
They've just been fed so little 
information that of course 

836
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,040
they're reacting this way. 
And, and I also am like 

837
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,040
privileged in the way that I was
born, you know, I was born a 

838
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:51,720
white woman in a developed 
country in a like but but so 

839
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:54,400
that's just like a core 
privilege, but then also having 

840
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,240
two educated parents who wanted 
me and could. 

841
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:05,160
Support. 
You to support me and be with me

842
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,920
and ask me questions and raise 
me in a way that like every 

843
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,440
child would probably want to be 
raised. 

844
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,200
Now I have some notes. 
Obviously my dad's dead, but 

845
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,920
I'll give them my mom still 
kicking. 

846
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,800
You know, there's notes for 
sure. 

847
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,280
But it's I'm like, Oh my God, 
imagine it. 

848
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:27,480
And my parents are like, not 
just like politically correct 

849
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,760
and, and I don't mean like PCI 
mean they're not just like 

850
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:37,200
they're on the right side and 
but they're also morally sound. 

851
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,000
So it's not just like, oh, do as
I say, not as I do. 

852
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,560
They walk the walk, they talk 
the talk. 

853
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,880
They're doing it. 
That's so rare. 

854
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,120
Oh, it's a. 
Fucking lottery ticket. 

855
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,960
Like, And so especially where I 
come from, I'm like, oh, what if

856
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,560
I had been raised super 
Christian? 

857
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,880
Like we're Irish Catholic. 
That's like barely anything. 

858
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,600
I'm Irish Catholic. 
We don't even care. 

859
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,720
I know they're like, go sit. 
The fact that two Hail Marys or 

860
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:02,240
whatever don't even. 
Yeah. 

861
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,680
Like it's like I could give a 
rat and my husband's Filipino 

862
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,760
like these are like people are 
like, Oh my God, did you have 

863
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,320
the most longest church wedding 
of all time? 

864
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,600
I'm like, we got married in Palm
Springs outside. 

865
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:20,080
Like we're basically gay men. 
Like it's like no, no one cared.

866
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,080
No one was. 
No one was like you need to do 

867
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,480
this. 
You need to like it that just 

868
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,040
and that's such a privilege and 
I'm so lucky that I do try and 

869
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:34,280
consider people's like 
situations and it is tough 

870
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,000
because you see people who come 
from the the most fucked up 

871
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,680
situations be able to do it. 
I know, but not everybody's I 

872
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,280
know to overcome. 
Have you heard of the Curse of 

873
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,480
Knowledge? 
Yes. 

874
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,840
Yeah, Really. 
It blew my mind when I heard it.

875
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,760
And it's so, it's so real 
because it's like the longer you

876
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,440
know something, the less patient
you become with people who 

877
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,200
don't. 
Yeah, know it, but would you 

878
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,120
want because I we hear people, 
especially in stand up, it's a 

879
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,120
common trope to be like I wish I
was dumb. 

880
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,600
Like it like remember when 
people were like I guys like I 

881
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,280
wish I was gay. 
I'd be so awesome to be gay and 

882
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,080
then I could just like and it's 
like. 

883
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,760
I don't know, from your 
perspective it is insane how 

884
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,320
much straight male comics talk 
about gay stuff. 

885
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:23,080
I mean, look how much like our 
president talks about men's 

886
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,480
appearances. 
Yeah, it's. 

887
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,520
Crazy the times I've been the 
only gay guy in the lineup and 

888
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,840
they're all stepping on my 
material and like I feel like I 

889
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,480
feel. 
Like a crazy. 

890
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,000
Person but what I want to be 
more dumb. 

891
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,680
I think I'm actually the perfect
amount of dumb where and beyond 

892
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,320
privilege because yeah, sis 
white male. 

893
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,040
I in fact get embarrassed that I
am this white 'cause I'm like I 

894
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,880
know what it must look like when
I'm like not smiling and sitting

895
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,320
in any space. 
Like I probably look like a cunt

896
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,520
type person but the white. 
Gays and the white women, we 

897
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,320
have many things we need to 
work. 

898
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,360
Oh my, yes, we are. 
We are the probably the last 

899
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,160
people holding up white 
supremacy outside of like the oh

900
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,040
geez, you know. 
Yeah, yes, yes, yes. 

901
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,280
Because we're like, well, it 
does. 

902
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,880
Then this is me speaking as a, 
of course awful person. 

903
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,720
They're like. 
Well, we're just not. 

904
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:30,920
We're just not forced to face it
like other people are. 

905
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,840
So of course, you get through 
your day, you're struggling, you

906
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,960
have kids, you have whatever. 
And it's just like you take for 

907
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,280
granted that like it's going 
actually smoother than it is for

908
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,800
a lot of people. 
But I don't wish I were Dumber. 

909
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,560
I do actively try to think as 
little as possible. 

910
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,640
I try to stay in like a 
meditative state and like, do 

911
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,160
the next right thing. 
Like, don't get too far ahead. 

912
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,320
It's like, OK, there's an 
election coming up, let's figure

913
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,520
out who I'm going to vote for. 
A little bit of the weight is 

914
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,080
lifted. 
Oh, there's a thing I can donate

915
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,760
a little bit of money to, or 
there's a canvassing thing I can

916
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,840
show up to. 
Cool. 

917
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,320
And were you able to like, reach
that through therapy? 

918
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,520
That's a great for me it yeah, 
it's a mix of sobriety therapy, 

919
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,440
which I'm which I'm not with a 
therapist right now. 

920
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,320
I cut mine loose because I was 
like, I found myself like being 

921
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,000
like, what am I going to talk 
about today? 

922
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:23,720
Like, I guess I want my dad 
again, like fertile ground. 

923
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,920
And then mental health meds, 
Zoloft and Wellbutrin, which 

924
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,080
lowered my anxiety, made I got 
clarity from it. 

925
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,720
And I'm like, oh, not 
everything's life or death. 

926
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,280
And there's only so much any one
person can do. 

927
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,440
So let's start there. 
That's good. 

928
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,440
But having again, having kids, I
can't imagine it's like flowing 

929
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,920
gasoline on like the anxiety 
fire where you're just like, oh.

930
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,600
Yeah, when people bring up like 
AI and conversation, you know, I

931
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,440
mean, I had someone last week 
who I thought was going to give 

932
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,640
me good advice on something be 
like, you should ask ChatGPT and

933
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,440
I'm it it it will be the thing 
that sends me to like a farm and

934
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,320
I lose my mind. 
So like it, like I am fighting 

935
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,560
it tooth and nail. 
Like I get aggressive with 

936
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,920
people, like I'm calling people 
dumb to their faces. 

937
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,920
Like I'm not handling it. 
Which is not helpful, no. 

938
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,600
I'm like really, like, really, 
really hate it. 

939
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,120
And like, I know people around 
me are like, oh, and I've had 

940
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,240
people say like, oh, is this 
because it's like affected your 

941
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:25,440
industry? 
And I'm like, no, it's 'cause I 

942
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,120
want my children to have water. 
Yeah. 

943
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,880
Yeah, and I want your children 
to have water. 

944
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,520
I actually want all children to 
have water. 

945
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,240
This is and that's why it's such
AII. 

946
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:37,360
Can't wrap my mind around it 
really. 

947
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,520
The greed thing where it's like 
people, certain people will 

948
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:46,040
never have enough zeros in their
bank account to start caring 

949
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,200
about anyone else which blows my
mind. 

950
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,360
But then it's like there is a 
way we could integrate AI to 

951
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,680
benefit us. 
I replace the CEOs. 

952
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,280
And we're just, we're not a 
society built that way. 

953
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,400
I know, yeah. 
We're capitalist piggies and 

954
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,120
people are looking to, you know,
fatten their bottom line, not 

955
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,800
help single mothers, you know, 
do their taxes. 

956
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:17,960
I hosted this or I moderated a 
debate right after we'd have 

957
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,400
been legalized in California. 
And it was someone who had been 

958
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,040
pro it and someone who was 
against it. 

959
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,800
And I was just like how I don't 
understand being against it. 

960
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,960
And the man who was against it 
was a black man. 

961
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:36,160
And he was like, we as a society
do not do things well. 

962
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,120
Like we are not going to. 
Like black people are still 

963
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,560
imprisoned. 
All of the negative parts still 

964
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,920
exist. 
And all that's happening is 

965
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,480
massive corporations are 
profiting off of it and stealing

966
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,920
any. 
So he was like, I smoke weed, I 

967
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,760
grow weed. 
I what? 

968
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,200
There has been no decrease in 
arrests of black and brown 

969
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,840
people for it. 
There has been no shift of money

970
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,320
towards communities that have 
been punished for it. 

971
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,360
And I was just like, oh, Oh 
yeah, even if something is good,

972
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,120
we are. 
Built to. 

973
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:16,080
Suck it up. 
And that was tough and, and it 

974
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,640
was like, and that's probably, 
I'm like heavily diluting it and

975
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,960
that's, and he probably made 
better points 'cause there's 

976
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,920
like a hopelessness to that too 
of like, well, how do you, how 

977
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,760
does 1. 
Person unfurl that. 

978
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,600
Yeah. 
And one person can't, obviously,

979
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,320
but it's like that is just sort 
of like how it feels sometimes. 

980
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,200
Yeah, the plight. 
Yeah. 

981
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Thank you for doing the pod. 
I'm gonna go self harm. 

982
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:50,240
No, I'm kidding, kidding, 
kidding. 

983
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,120
But we strayed a little bit from
sex. 

984
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,720
But is there a piece of advice 
you give to the younger version 

985
00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:58,560
of yourself before she began her
sexual journey? 

986
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,600
You don't have to. 
Period. 

987
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:08,440
You just don't have to. 
And I like probably like would 

988
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,560
repeat that to myself like every
day. 

989
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,200
I'm just like, you don't have 
to. 

990
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,520
It sounds like I really felt 
like I did have to of course, 

991
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,040
and probably convinced myself 
that I wanted to like a lot just

992
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,760
out of like self. 
Preservation I think about how 

993
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,160
like we can learn you can I 
love, I do love TikTok. 

994
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,480
I love reels. 
I'm I'm seeing things that my 

995
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,960
ancestors could never dream to 
see. 

996
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,960
And you, well, you can like, and
you can hear a nugget of like, 

997
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,320
if someone treating you this 
way, it's not OK and do this. 

998
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,680
We didn't have that. 
We were listening to like the 

999
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,240
five other dumb bitches that we 
hung out with. 

1000
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,960
And they were all flawed logic 
too. 

1001
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,200
And it's just like, and then you
had alcohol and like, I don't 

1002
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,280
know, it's just like, it was 
always going to be hard, I 

1003
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,080
think. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1004
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,960
And like, I think even as like a
married person, it's hard to 

1005
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,880
like, it's like, oh gosh, we're 
going to have sex forever and 

1006
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,800
like this, you know, that's 
definitely. 

1007
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,800
And you you go home and you say 
I don't have to. 

1008
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,600
Well, he's, he's across the damn
country. 

1009
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:19,840
He's across the damn country and
I'm on my period. 

1010
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,160
Hell yeah. 
Mark safe from sex and marriage.

1011
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:25,920
Thank you so much for doing 
this. 

1012
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,240
Where can the Tower Bottoms find
love and support you? 

1013
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,760
It's called Tower Bottoms until 
this moment. 

1014
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,800
It's, well, it's that's my fans.
Tower Bottoms. 

1015
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:40,000
I love you guys. 
They can find me outside of 

1016
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,000
Shohei Otani's house. 
No, people do get really, I love

1017
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,920
when people get mad at me for 
sexualizing men. 

1018
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,280
And they're like, what if a man 
said this about a woman? 

1019
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,960
And it's like, will that be 
different because men murder 

1020
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,440
women and rape us all the time? 
And also they've been doing it 

1021
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,680
for thousands of years. 
So I'm I'm a just get in on the 

1022
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:57,960
action at this point. 
It's. 

1023
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,360
I don't think Shohei Otani is 
afraid of me. 

1024
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,480
No, he's good and his wife is 
really beautiful. 

1025
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,720
He did have a daughter the same 
like week out of son. 

1026
00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:09,480
And if they meet, you know, and 
then I'm just at the wedding 

1027
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,240
staring at show. 
Hey, where can people find me? 

1028
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,080
You're special. 
Or yeah, no, you're special on. 

1029
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,920
Special on a little website 
calledyoutube.com It's called 

1030
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,240
Live from my Driveway. 
I'm 8 months pregnant in it, 

1031
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:28,800
filmed it in my driveway and my 
husband and son are watching it 

1032
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,960
from my son's. 
Bedroom so good it's and you 

1033
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,440
have so you have a backlog of 
things for people to ingest. 

1034
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,240
Too much and this might be it 
for me. 

1035
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:41,760
I might be done, don't you? 
Don't you ever want to hang it 

1036
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,680
up? 
Every day hanging up my my head 

1037
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:48,120
from my neck, from the rafters. 
No, I I did. 

1038
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,560
It took me a while to just 
realize like, oh, it's it's a 

1039
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,840
lifestyle. 
Yeah, it's probably forever. 

1040
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,320
Yeah. 
So let's just have. 

1041
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:56,560
Fun. 
Oh, I'm always like, I'm going 

1042
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,560
to do it till the day I die. 
And then I hope tomorrow's the 

1043
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,200
last day out of me living. 
But no. 

1044
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:02,800
Yeah. 
Oh. 

1045
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,480
And then I have a podcast called
Sports Bitches, OK, that I host 

1046
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:11,960
with two other hilarious gals, 
Sarah Tiana, Rachel Boneta. 

1047
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,640
We are we all love sports, but 
we also like love gossip, love 

1048
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,480
celebrity culture. 
I think you do not have to be a 

1049
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,680
sports I. 
Shouldn't say maybe this is a 

1050
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,520
good entry entry. 
Point. 

1051
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,200
It's a wonderful entry point. 
We did an episode yesterday. 

1052
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,200
I don't think we talked about 
anything. 

1053
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,440
That's amazing. 
You know, like we are best 

1054
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,040
friends and so we talk a lot 
about our lives. 

1055
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,800
We all work in sports, all of 
our partners work in sports. 

1056
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,840
But yeah, I know it's crazy. 
That's a lot of sports. 

1057
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,600
It's a lot of sports. 
And then between Sarah and I 

1058
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,640
have three sons between the two 
of us. 

1059
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,280
So it's a lot. 
But like, I'm not selling it 

1060
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,720
well. 
But you will like it. 

1061
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,560
No, I believe it. 
You'll like it and it's. 

1062
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,000
Her allies, I mean Megan. 
Megan is one of the funniest 

1063
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,720
people I know and Sarah Tian is,
I don't know the 3rd girl. 

1064
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,600
Rachel Panetta is so funny. 
She used to be on air talent at 

1065
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,400
Fox Sports and at the NFL and 
then and has been doing comedy 

1066
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:17,080
in that way, like on television 
sketches, super, super funny. 

1067
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:21,040
And then started stand up like 
like 4 years ago. 

1068
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,720
And Sarah and I, I mean, they're
like, you know, my sister Sarah 

1069
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,360
and I have the same birthday. 
We are aligned. 

1070
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,480
Oh my God. 
I wouldn't be more different. 

1071
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,440
I seem like sort of astrology 
maybe? 

1072
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,760
Yay. 
Thank you for being here. 

1073
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,160
Thank you. 
And until next time, keep 

1074
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:44,120
sucking and fucking. 
Hello, Tower Bottoms. 

1075
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,000
It's me, your host, Zach Newry. 
Towers, thank you so much for 

1076
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,120
listening to Good Side Pod. 
If you haven't already, give it 

1077
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,000
a five star rating. 
Leave a review, share it with a 

1078
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,320
friend, get the word out. 
I love you so much. 

1079
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,120
And until next time, keep 
sucking and bucking.

