Hi everyone, and welcome back to People Juwan and O Podcast.
I am so excited for today's episode.
You know, I have to be completely honest with you, the
views and the listens have been down the last few weeks.
And so I've been trying to get creative and think of a way to
bring new people in and keep you coming back.
So today I am super excited for our guests Queen Julia or Julia
ANG. Hi, everyone.
Hey, so we thought this was the best way to get people to listen
to the podcast. I'm so excited to be here and to
talk about everything. Thanks so much for being here.
I'm so glad you're here. You're the breast.
This is Julia Ain, which she made sure to tell me to say Ain
like Anus. Julia is a Canadian born content
creator and influencer with over 1.3 million followers across
platforms. Her work as a digital
entertainer has earned her the prestigious USO 1B Extraordinary
Ability Talent Visa, granted to no more than 20,000 people per
year online. She is also proudly Jewish,
advocating for us with her chest.
In today's episode, you'll learn all about her incredible story
and her unconventional career path.
Please enjoy this episode up top.
I guess we got to address the elephant in the room here with
us. Your melons.
My melons so I brought two different types.
We have cantaloupe and honeydew. Let me know what you prefer.
I wasn't sure like what you liked.
I love cantaloupe. Thank you so much.
OK, so I want to start by asking you the same question that I
start with for every guest. Please tell us about yourself.
Oh my God, I I am so sorry. I keep getting distracted by the
jugs. The jugs.
Oh, you mean these jugs? Here you go, Margarita.
Don't worry, I got you. Yeah, it's always good to have
something. Yeah, of course it's thirsty.
I'm thirsty. OK, I guess now we can get
started. Yeah, yeah.
Let's get started. I'm going to go change.
Welcome back, Julia. I'm back.
OK, please tell us about yourself.
What do you do and how did you get there?
I was born in Montreal, so I think most people at this point
know that I'm Canadian. But if you don't, I'm I'm
Canadian. And then I lived in the Toronto
GTA for a bit and moved back to Montreal for university.
And so I went to McGill for university and I had always
planned on becoming a lawyer. I actually wasn't entirely sure
if I want to become a lawyer or a journalist.
I was kind of like trying to decide while I was still in
school, but I'd always planned on going to grad school or law
school. I had never planned to do social
media. I always was like, I'm either
going to be a lawyer or a journalist or do something in
that realm. And then over COVID, I was born
during the pandemic. And actually in Montreal during
that time, there was a curfew, so people were not allowed to
leave their house. In Montreal in 2021, past 8:00
PM, you had to, like, stay at home.
And so during this time period, I, like, started posting a lot
on social media and it randomly started to take off.
And it kind of was like staring at me in the face.
And it's like, I feel like this is like an opportunity that I'm
not going to be able to, like, have again.
And I should kind of focus on this instead of, you know, like
school will always be there. I can always go back to school
if I want. But this is like, right now,
this is a time sensitive thing. So I started taking social media
seriously in like, 2022. And I've been doing it
consistently for the past few years, but as my full time job
about like just under three years now.
So yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.
And I never expected to do this ever.
I always saw myself as like, I'm going to go into like a Pert.
Like I had straight A's in high school.
I had a million extracurriculars.
I did the morning announcements, I did the news, I did theater, I
did everything. And I was like, I'm going to
become a lawyer. And I I had this like in my head
and then it just totally switched.
And I never would have been able to see myself in this position.
But I love it now that I'm here. I have to say though, that
somebody that comes across your page on the Internet might think
of you as like a funny Jewish girl with big boobs.
But to do what you do at a level of a career full time, it takes
business acumen. So the fact that you were a
straight A student, that you went to McGill, that you're
clearly gifted and. Boost my ego even more.
Thanks man, Keeping it humble. No, I do mean that sincerely.
And what I want to pick your brain on is now that you've been
doing social media for for five years, you kind of have to learn
on the job. It's not like you learn to do it
at school. What do you think you've?
Learned man. It's all about marketing
yourself. So how I make the majority of my
money is literally by selling my bikini photos.
I'm on an app called Fanfix. It's a safe for work platform.
It doesn't allow any nudity. It kind of is like a cross
between an Instagram and an only fans.
So it's different from Only Fans because it doesn't allow nudity,
but I literally sell like my bikini photos on that platform
and also just post like regular life stuff.
Like I'll post little vlogs or me going to the gym and it's a
place where I get to talk to my followers.
Like a lot of it is just like wholesome content.
But I also do that and that's where I make the vast majority
of my money, which is insane to think that that is even how
people make money. So that is, I think, also a big
misconception about people who do social medias that everyone
assumes that you're doing like hardcore stuff on Only Fans.
And a lot of the times it's like genuinely not the case.
There is such a range. There are so many beautiful
women in the world, so many amazing talented people.
A lot of it has nothing to do with talent, actually.
It's mostly about how you're able to market yourself.
Because there are 1,000,000 people more talented than me.
I can tell you that flat out people.
There are 1,000,000 people who can sing, dance, all this
talent. It's mostly not about that.
It's about how you're able to market yourself.
So for this job specifically, there are lots of pretty girls.
It's not even mostly about that. It's literally just being able
to market yourself, being able to post consistently, being able
to have fans who like you and see you as an actual like real
person instead of just this random like famous person.
So that is what a lot of it is more about that people kind of
miss. People think, Oh, it's one viral
video. That's it.
No, it's not. It's actually about people
liking you as a person and getting attached to that and
coming back day after day and and watching it.
And so that's what I know from doing this for so long is that
the people who are able to succeed are the people who are
able to build those fans to watch them for that that long of
a time that don't just like check out after like, you know,
a month or two months, etcetera. At what point did you decide
that you would want to apply for the talent visa to be in the?
US Oh, I always knew I wanted to move to the US.
It's just really hard to immigrate to the US or even get
a work visa. It is so hard if even if you're
a Canadian, like people think that it's easier for Canadians
to do it. It's not.
It is so difficult and I really don't know, like you have to be
like, so exceptional, like, like basically prove otherwise that
you're the only person able to do that job, that nobody in the
US can do your job otherwise. Like that's the only other way
to be able to immigrate. I always knew I want to move to
the US, whether I was going to do it by going to like an
American law school. That was kind of how I thought
maybe I would go about it. But then with this, I was like
that, this is like perfect. Because I it's also really
helpful for me to be able to do my work in the US Like this is a
central thing is that it's actually so much better to do a
lot of like, content creation stuff here.
There's just things that aren't accessible to Canadians.
So it was so worth it for me. But yeah, so I decided in 2023
and had begun working on my application and it took about a
year for it to to go through. And so I got it in 2024 in the
summer. When you started out though, you
didn't start out right away with bikini pics, right?
You did no dancing videos on TikTok?
When did you make the connection that you were like actually I
should pivot to this? Yeah, so, so this is
interesting. So I was actually so vehemently
against it at the beginning back in 2021.
Also, you have to keep in mind, I was 20 years years old, I was
still in university. I still had it in my head that I
was going to go and, and go to law school and do all these
things. And I kind of always saw it as
if I do this, I can't do this. It's like, oh, well, if I decide
to do any type of like social media ever, like I just will
never be able to get a real job as a lawyer.
I'll never whatever. So I kind of always was like,
oh, if I decide to do this, then I won't become a lawyer.
And so I always disregarded it. Then over maybe a year or two
years, I just saw so many people around me, how successful they
were able to come in such a short amount of time and kind of
seeing the job market around me also to kind of deteriorate
around me. So in Toronto, like there's just
so few good jobs. Like that's just the reality of
it. Like the housing market is
insane. The Canadian dollar is not good.
Everything is really expensive and there aren't really any good
jobs. Same thing.
Montreal is a little bit better, but just in Toronto specifically
where my family all is, it was not a great situation.
And so I was kind of looking at this opportunity and I was like,
this is like unlike anything else that I can even compare it
to. And I think I had a lot of
stigma around it. I think that was the main reason
why I didn't want to do it is that I was like, oh, people are
going to think I'm stupid if I do this.
People are, you know, going to think down on me.
And I actually kind of felt that way too, almost from like people
I went to university with that it was like, like embarrassing
to do this. It was shameful.
Then as soon as I became successful at it, of course,
everyone turns around and it's like, oh, I want to do it too.
How did you do it? I want to learn too, because
that's always how it goes. But at the time, I was a little
embarrassed. I was like, oh, I think I'm
above this. Like I was supposed to become a
lawyer. I don't want to be selling my
bikini photos. What what is this?
Now I look at it totally differently because this has
given me so much freedom and the ability to do so many other
things and just enjoy my life in a way that I would have never
been able to do had I gone to school, had I been in student
debt and honestly, probably even risking losing my job to AI.
That now, you know, I've been able to do all these other
things. I see myself as being really
like lucky to have had that opportunity.
That's amazing. Do you think you have any advice
on how to market, be it yourself or your brand or your business?
I think it goes in so many fields that you need to be
unapologetically yourself because otherwise I think things
will bother you. So like so much like you need to
be so confident in yourself that no matter what anyone else has
to say around you has to say to you, has to say online, like it
does not bother you. Like for me, like I get so many
bad comments. I, I do not care because I'm
just like, well, I'm confident when I post.
You know, that doesn't necessarily mean I think
everything I post is great, but I'm confident in myself.
I'm confident when I do. I'm like, OK, this is out there,
this is my job, this is it. And no matter what someone says
like it, it doesn't bother me because I'm not shaken up by it.
So that's like I think A1 like piece of advice I've had to
other people is like you cannot let what other people have to
say about it affect you. You just can't.
You need to have belief in yourself because if you don't
even believe in yourself how you supposed to expect other people
to? A massive following.
So like you need to believe, it's like, OK, I can do this,
and then other people will believe that you can do it too.
And then eventually it works. Do you ever look back on like
the early content you posted and we're like.
Why? Oh my God.
Yeah. So much of it so cringe.
I mean, really like my God. I, I definitely look back on
some of it, even some I posted like a year ago and I'm like,
this is so cringe. But sometimes you can't really
see it until it's, it's done. And there's nothing I've ever
posted that I'm like, damn. Like I really regret that.
Like I don't really feel that way about anything.
I'm just like, well, like it's out there and I'm pretty careful
about stuff I post to begin with.
But it's definitely cringe. Do I regret it?
No. But do I look at it and I'm
like, Oh yeah. A big part of your presence
online is also the fact that you're openly Jewish.
Yeah. And you grew up in Canada.
Both Montreal and Toronto have sizable Jewish populations
there. Can you tell me a little bit
about your Jewish upbringing and how having big boobs in the
Jewish community has impacted you?
So I actually think it's really interesting because I really
didn't grow up in a Jewish community at all.
I think that's actually how I kind of why I gravitated so much
like to the Internet almost is because that kind of became my
community at the time. So I didn't grow up.
I had one Jewish friend growing up, but it was basically only
me. I was like the only Jewish
person in my whole high school in the like Toronto GTA, Like
that's where we lived. It was basically just me.
And in university, that's finally when I started making
Jewish friends. But in high school I was like
pretty much totally isolated, which I actually think has given
me a leg up in a lot of ways now, because I feel like the
Jewish community can be very insulated and very much in its
own bubble. And I feel like from a young
age, I was never in that bubble. So now still, I, I see what
like, you know, a lot of people who aren't Jewish think about
things have to say. And I still have a lot of
friends who aren't Jewish too, where I kind of get both sides
of it, where now I do have this like world and lots of Jewish
friends and like my family who's Jewish and all of that, but also
still can understand this other like, you know, perspective, I
guess. How has being Jewish been
received by people that follow you in a more intimate
environment, if you will? I'm one of the few Jewish
creators who also was openly Jewish before October 7th.
So I can say first hand the change before and after October
7th. But it always like hatred
towards Jews always existed. It was always very obvious to
me. It was just done in a much more
like covert way. Like it was like, now the things
that are posted, nobody would have ever posted five years ago,
but it was still, people still thought it.
They just didn't have the confidence to say it.
So a few examples of that. If you look back on my comments
in 2021, people were still saying the same stuff.
I would post a random video of me just literally existing doing
nothing. I would just be wearing my Star
of David. It could be just me eating a
sandwich. And then all the comments are
like free Palestine, free pal, or like, you know, the sandwich
was promised to her 3000 years ago.
Like all these things that people would still come at that.
And that was before October 7th. Me not being a political figure
in any way, me not even really talking about Israel whatsoever
either. Like none of that having to do
with any of it. Me basically just existing and
getting all of this like attention and this negative
comments. And then after October 7th,
obviously that like exploded, but it was always there.
There was always an underbelly. So whenever people kind of were
like, oh, I could never have seen this coming.
I absolutely saw this coming back in 2021.
It was obvious then that this is the way a lot of Gen.
Z felt, especially Gen. Z.
So it wasn't surprising at all to me the way things have now
gone on on the Internet. Didn't someone comment something
on your post that was like I want to hate you but you're too
hot. People call it stuff like that
all the time and it's actually insane.
Like, I just like see all this and laugh.
Like I, I just don't care. Like it takes so much to bother
me. Then I'm just like, whatever.
It's kind of a compliment in a fun way.
There are tons of I'm sure people who like don't like Jews
that follow me that are like OK, I like this one.
You'll make it. Terrible.
It's terrible. But I'm just like, Oh my God.
Like, I mean, what am I supposed to do about that?
Like I just see it and I'm like, well, like, all right, like this
is what it is. But no, it's, it's scary for
sure. Let's talk.
About Milky Mansion, what is a content house?
Are you guys like getting a rental in the Hamptons and
filming stuff for a weekend? Is there like some group chat?
Like what does it mean to be part of a content house?
And how come you decided to start 1?
So Milk Mansion honestly just feels like one big joke.
I just can't believe sometimes that it's like taking off the
way that it is the pages of almost 400,000 followers on
Instagram. Like I'm sure by the time this
episode airs it's going to be at like way more than that.
And that actually is like almost scary to me because I just never
expected this many people to see it.
But Milk Mansion was a collaborative effort between me
and my friend on Yella who goes by Yell 0 on Instagram.
It was actually more her idea, like she was the one who came up
with the name Milk Mansion and and all of that, but I was the
one who kind of connected all the girls together.
So that's why about half the girls in the house are Jewish is
because it was me kind of like over the past couple years,
becoming friends with everyone naturally.
And I just kind of gravitated towards becoming friends with
the Jewish girls on the Internet.
It just happened. It just happened like
organically. I don't really know how to
explain it. I think it stemmed from a place
of like them also being able to understand the way we were being
looked at on online, both in like, you know, people looking
at us and being like, oh, boobs and also being like, oh, Jewish
like both in that way, which was a way that almost no one else
could understand. So I think that's how I
gravitated more towards having Jewish friends online, which
then ended up becoming what would be Milk Mansion, which I
didn't realize at the time. But yeah.
So it's me, Galley Galan, who's like a big creator in Israel.
Funny enough, Jackie Harley, Justine Leila has Jewish
grandparents, but she's also Iranian.
So we like put her in. She's also like part Jewish.
And we were like, okay. And Alex and then there's a
bunch of other girls, the other half of the girls who aren't
Jewish at all, they're just like, it literally is not a
Jewish house. It's got nothing to do with it.
It's just half of us happen to be.
But so many of the comments now are like, is Israel paying you
to post this? Is this, Are you getting 7K per
post? And I'm like, no, like, this has
nothing to do with that. This is just us, like coming
together to make fun videos. But yeah, that's like what Milk
Mansion kind of is, is that it's a way for us obviously to like,
you know, whatever, promote like fanfics and only fans and people
to like do their content and stuff.
But I think foremost is just a group of friends really getting
together. Like we're not run by any
management or anything. And yeah, so we rent out a house
and we rented out a house in Pennsylvania.
We're renting at a house in Tampa in like a week to like
record a bunch of content. But yeah, so we just do
everything in bulk. Like we do like a week's, like
we do like 2 months worth of content in like a week.
So yeah, we all get matching outfits.
That's like essential. I'm trying to think of some
other stuff. But overall, like, at least for
me, it's important that we just have fun.
Like genuinely like like I have my own individual friendships
with pretty much everyone and like that is so important to me.
And making sure everyone's comfortable and likes what we
post. I think that's like the most
important part of the house. Like obviously like, you know,
people making money is important, but it's important
that everyone feels like safe so.
Yeah, that makes sense. How do you find ideas for what
content to shoot? How do you think of stuff?
We see what like other people are posting, but a lot of it
too, for me at least, so much of my content has always been
reaction based. Like it's based off what other
people have to say about me, have to say about like so much
of us reacting to comments. Like I feel like even how I got
popular in the 1st place was literally by reacting to
comments. Like it just kind of happened
that way. And so we kind of we'll just
look at what people were saying and then like react to it a lot
of the times. So that's how Milk Mansion even
came to be too, is that people would comment, oh, mommy
milkers, mommy milkers on our videos for the past five years
for my friend on Yella, some random person on the street just
screamed at her randomly got milk.
Like literally she was just walking down the street and they
screamed that at her. And she posted her reaction on
TikTok and it got like 30 million views.
And so that was kind of how the name was born was a reaction
base of our commenters. So I feel like a lot of our
content also was like that where it's it's reaction based even
how like again, I became popular, people make jokes that
I look like Ben Shapiro's sister.
That was like how a lot of it came to be.
That was reaction based. Have you met Ben Shapiro's?
Sister, no I don't think she would would want to meet me.
I don't know if I'd want to be here but my cousin did meet Ben
Shapiro actually which is so funny like randomly ran into
him. But they definitely know who I
am. There's no way at this point,
like it's just the meme has gone on 2 deep and it is way too
niche. This is the thing like it is
such a niche meme that there's no way that I'm like at least
his sister has had to see over this course.
My craziest moment with that was she was pregnant like a few
years ago and I heard that like there was a picture of her that
went viral and I dressed up as her for poor room.
Like it was literally like I took that photo and use it as
like a poor room costume and I'm just like, this was insane.
But anyways. Venture Beer, surprisingly, has
a great sense of humor. I have never paid attention to
Venture for your sense of humor. Maybe I should.
Maybe I should? Only to a sister.
Oh my God, I'm sure, I'm sure you have to have a good sense of
humor. If you're like on the Internet
like this much, you have to so. I want to pivot us to something
that I've been meaning to ask. You know, you share a lot of
your life online almost. It feels like almost everything
you're willing to share. Is there anything that you
haven't shared online that you can share with us here today?
There was a few things actually I was thinking about before
coming on here that I was like I wanted to talk about
specifically because I really don't talk very deeply about my
experience being a Jewish creator post October 7th.
I've never really liked taking the time to actually like talk
about what was going on in my personal life And just like how
this has affected me over the past couple years because like I
was saying, there's just not that many.
Like so many of the content creators now came after October
7th that I am like interested to see the people who were like
before and after how they feel like like because I now the
content creators in the space, them making content after
October 7th, like they chose to be in this horrific anti-Semitic
like environment, knowing that it was going to kind of be like
this. I feel like some of us, the ones
of us who were had a following before, we're just kind of
thrown into it. And I had no idea ever that I
would get thrown into this type of like hatred.
And honestly, I am so happy for the way that everything is kind
of working stuff out. I think it's made me like a much
stronger person and like it's made me be successful.
But also to like it has definitely been difficult.
And so one of the things I want to talk about too, what I
noticed after October 7th, the amount of people that lost
friends after October 7th, I did not realize how common of an
experience that was for people. And that was something that
actually affected me in my personal life that I've never
shared online before. I lost three of my closest
friends after October 7th, somebody that was best friends
with for 10 years. Never in my life did I think
that something like this would happen and it just did.
And I, I was actually so grateful then for everything
that had happened online because it made me so confident in who I
was. Like, I know that like, I'm a
confident, proud Jewish woman that no matter like, what anyone
else has to say about this is who I am.
And like, if you don't like it, too bad.
And that's kind of always been my stance on that.
And like being able to walk away from things that aren't good for
me anymore because people just don't like who I am anymore,
apparently. And I think that's been a really
important lesson that I've seen the majority of people who have
had these experiences and instead of trying to fight for
these friends and trying to like dwindle themselves down and, you
know, and all that, you just go and make new friends.
And that's what I did. I was like, screw this.
I don't need any of this. I move countries.
I made new friends. And I'm so happy now with my
life. And I'm so happy that I didn't
try to change myself to make someone else still like me.
So I think that if anything should be a big take away for
other people as well is that like, we outgrow people and
like, you shouldn't stay with people who aren't good for you
anymore. And I'm just so happy with the
fact that like I'm able to now have loving friends that like,
you know, I share these things with and understand this.
I am not a political person. I'm not, you know, have anything
to do with the Israeli government.
I'm just like a random Jewish girl from Canada.
So that's the thing that it's like, you might not like what
the Israeli government does. I don't like what the Israeli
government does. But I also literally can't do
anything about it and have nothing to do.
And like I know for a lot of us too, after October 7th, like one
of my close friends was like family friends with Hirsch.
I know a lot of people were within like 1° of separation
from somebody that was affected by October 7th.
And that was the thing that I don't think other people
understood was how close like everyone was together.
And so I think too, that really played into it.
And it's like, you just don't understand anymore where I'm
coming from. These aren't random people
across the world. Like this feels like like people
I know this could have been me and like you just don't
understand this anymore. And so I think that was a big
transition. And I think now for the rest of
my life, I'm I will be very careful moving forward with
making sure that, you know, something like this, that like
we are aligned on these things because these are things that
matter to me now. Like this is not something
that's ever going to go away. And if somebody doesn't like the
fact that I'm Jewish or think that that Israel as a country
should exist and I'm sorry, like we just can't be friends, that's
just what it is. And I'm not going to like
sacrifice like that part of myself because somebody else
doesn't like it. And people now, like always have
something to complain about. Well, complain all you want.
I don't care. This is who I am so.
What about the flip side of it and being received by the Jewish
community? How do you think the Jewish
influencers welcomed you? Honestly pretty good.
Like honestly, I've had like good experiences with almost
everyone. Yeah, I think.
Most not to love. Well, I have to say, like I've
had really positive experiences with basically everyone.
I don't think most people care like what you really like.
Like we're all equal, you know, that's it.
I think a lot of people especially like what I post,
they find it interesting. And that's what I think is
important too with Jewish content creators is that you
kind of see it as like, oh, like everyone imagines like Zach Sage
Foxes, like that's not the bully Zach, even though sometimes I do
bully Zach, but that's not the bully Zach.
But it's like, there's other ways that like, like a Jewish
content creator can look that also can be helpful.
And I think this is really important too, that we are in
our own echo chamber. And this is the issue with some
Jewish content creators is that they are speaking in an echo
chamber. And that's why I think it's so
important for people that have like an audience that isn't even
mostly Jewish to still talk about these things because it's
getting to like a different group of people.
But so that's why I actually think that a lot of Jewish
content creators do kind of like what I post because it's
different and it's funny and it's meant to be like light
hearted. And like, that's what I think is
important too, right? That like you have people that
do serious activism and, and that work is so important.
I don't think I could do that work.
I think that work could make me just miserable.
But I also think it's important to have like comedy and things
that are light hearted because if you look on your phone every
day and just see things that are depressing, that's going to also
just make you depressed. Like your need to have balance
and so much of being Jewish about humor and all those things
that I think it's important. I think if anything, my content
is inherently Jewish because it's meant to be funny and like
push against what's like, you know, even though Jews have
always lived through hard times, we've made the best of it.
And I feel like that's always kind of been my Ave. as well.
And if something bad happens, well, I'm just going to turn
around and make it into a good thing.
I'm going to make it an opportunity, make money, make
the most of it. Like I'm not going to sit here
and complain and like, or maybe I'll complain a bit, but I'm not
going to like, you know, I'm going to move forward.
I realized I don't even remember how we met.
I have no idea either. How did we meet?
We need to go back and like look at the photos.
You know what I think it was? I'm guessing that we probably
met from online, but then I had that Shabbat in March of last
year. Oh my God, you.
And Harley and Tess came, and that was the first time that I
met you in person. And it meant so much to me that
you guys showed up and I just was like, wow, I can't believe
that I'm connected to all of these different, interesting,
dynamic people. But I realized I like.
I don't actually remember how we met exactly, honestly.
This whole thing is 1 big blur. Like it genuinely is 1 big blur.
Like I can't remember anymore either.
The internet's so small. That's the other thing too, is
that at this one, I feel like I know I, I feel like I know
everyone. And then there's just new people
constantly popping up. And I'm like, never mind.
Like, like, I thought I had everyone down, but I guess not.
And yeah, I just wanted to add to, like, I have so much social
media experience over the past five years.
Seeing the way Genz opinions on Jews have changed over the past
five years is really scary. I don't know if Jewish
organizations realize how much Gen.
Z like, the Internet is like a lot of Gen.
Z's entire world. Like, that is where they spend
most of their time scrolling on TikTok, scrolling through
Instagram, like sending reels and memes to their friends, like
younger people. That is so much of what they do
now, especially over the pandemic.
I went on Instagram reels a few weeks ago or a couple weeks ago
after everything with Jeffrey Epstein came out, every single
reel with hundreds of thousands of likes saying like the worst
stuff in connection with like all of that.
But like nothing actually factual or true.
Like all these terrible like conspiracy theories and all
things that I'm just like, I can't believe people are now
believing this about Drew's like this is insane and all these
like things and and nobody really seeming to address it, at
least within this like context of these things that are jokes.
It's it's a meme. It's a joke, but it has a
million likes. That is insane that this joke
about Jeffrey Epstein being Jewish and oh of course he was
Jewish, blah blah blah, has a million likes on Instagram reels
and I'm not sure if the ADL or whoever else is aware about how
bad this is. It's not just a little bit bad.
This is the, this is all most of Gen.
Z sees about Jews because most, most, most young people have
probably never even met a Jewish person.
Most people in general have never met a Jewish person,
right? Narrow that down to young people
who only see these terrible things in the news and it really
is scary just seeing how much it has changed because even three
years ago it did not look like that.
You could not post that stuff and have it be received in that
way. The comments section would not
all agree with it. Now if you post something
heavily anti-Semitic all the comments will be like Oh yeah I
agree that's hilarious. Hitler was right or mustache man
was right. Like that will be the comments
agreeing with it. You did not have a response
three years ago. So that is a massive change in
such a short span of time. And yes, some of that might be
bots, some of that might be some interference, but a lot of that
is real. That is not just like, oh, fake,
fake accounts. Like, no, I can see there's been
a huge change in how young people see Jews and Jewish
organizations really need to get better at social media because
that is how all young people consume information now.
And I just think we are totally missing the mark.
And it it scares me. One of the efforts that's
happening now is. My 2 cents on the matter is it's
not that the ADL doesn't know, right?
They know. And whether they know if it's
bad, very bad or horrible, it doesn't matter.
They know it's bad enough. They just don't know what to do.
I know, I don't know what to do. Either and right.
And so we are all aware that there's a problem, but what is
the right way to chip away at it?
And one of the initiatives that I see, which is like sneaky and
smart, there are organizations popping up that are
philanthropically funded. And their whole thing is in
engaging creators who are not Jewish or do not cater to a
Jewish niche to make subtle content that frames Jews
positively. And this is very smart because
it creates coalitions and allies.
It reframes the narrative around what commentary is appropriate
about Jews, framing Jews as heroes, not villains, Right.
So that's the approach that some smart Jewish organizations are
starting to take, is investing in creators who are adjacent,
who can become good allies or spokespeople for us, good
ambassadors for us. I mean, that sounds great.
I just don't know if older people really realize how bad it
is. Like, I think it's that.
I think it's that I don't like. The older generation is a little
bit delusional about how severe the problem is and what is
required to solve it. They're using old methods that
don't work. And I think the part where I
would agree with you is whether it be, you know, one Jewish
nonprofit or another, to have the hubris to continue to ask
for donations when you yourself cannot go on the record and say
exactly what you plan to do to combat anti-Semitism, You should
sit down. Like, that's what bothers me.
If you don't know how to fix the problem, stop asking people for
money. That's it.
Yeah. I'm not asking.
Anyone for money, I admit full out, I don't know how to fix the
problem. I know I I observe, I observe
all of this and I'm scared, but I don't really know how how you
fix it other than like trying to produce something positive out
of it. That's always been my way.
I guess is trying to make a joke out of it, trying to make
something like hearted out of it.
So I guess that actually is my way.
But as an organization, I don't know how you how you do that.
You know, I wonder what would you tell your younger self now,
looking back, kind of where you're at.
Man, you know what, don't take anything too seriously.
I actually think that might be my advice.
I was thinking about this the other day.
Like we we're all here for like a limited time and I think we
spend so much time being so worried about everything.
Even even a lot of this podcast is me worried about the future
and I I am worried about the state of some things, but also
like we need to enjoy the moment like nothing's ever promised and
I think we need to make the most of every day.
And I feel like in a lot of ways, like Jews do that every,
like we care so much about community.
We care so much about getting together and the holidays and,
and, and being together. And that I think is so important
because that's what actually matters.
You know, like, we're all here for a limited amount of time,
like make the most of it. So I feel like that is a message
I would tell my younger self is to stop worrying so much that
just like enjoy everything and it's never that serious.
Like things will work themselves out and that everything's a more
a lot more fun when you stop taking everything so seriously.
To be honest. Because I think about that now.
Like I feel like my whole life's a joke, but it's like 1 big
awesome joke. So I'm just like the it's great.
Like today is just better that way.
Thank you so much for doing this.
Tell me, how can people connect with you and keep up with your
work? It's Queen Julia on like all of
my socials so can write it. It's spelled QV ENJULAA, so
yeah. Amazing.
And I have one final question for you.
It's one that I ask every guest. Who would you like to nominate
for people? Do you want to know?
Oh, I I Amelia. Yeah.
Perfect.
Or Tess. Like either one of the two.
Tess, I'm sure would love to. Come on if Tess comes on.
We have to wear shirts. You do?
Yes, we have to make shirts. But yeah, I I vote Amelia or
Tess. Yeah.
These are fantastic nominations. I'm so glad we got to do this.
Yes. You're the breast.
Thanks. Thanks.
Karita. Margarita has talent, too.
I thought she was going to show it on the podcast, but I guess
not. But Margarita's secretly
talented. I'm undercover.
She's undercover. But she she could be a part of
Milk Mansion if she won't. Honestly, it's my dream to film
like a little funny. Honestly I think they should
like try to get her on. So I not to expose my mom, but
one day I got a call from my mom and this is I pick up the phone
and this is what I hear and I'm like mom, what's wrong?
And she's like, I open my Instagram and there's a video of
you touching your boobs. What video is this?
The one we made. What what video is that?
I need to see it and it's literally the video.
I added it perfect you're. The one you made.
And I was like, mom, it's a joke.
It's part of a podcast promo. And she's like, Oh my God, Rita.
That's so funny, I think my mom just saw that and laughed.
That's another thing I actually would like to add in.
It was very important to me throughout everything that I did
that my family was supportive of it and that I had their that
they had my back and they have always been very supportive in
everything that I do. And I literally could not do
this if it wasn't my mom literally helps me take my
pictures for me. She's literally like my
photographer. I love you mom, but I literally
could not do this without my my family's health and they have
been very integral in a lot of my decision making.
This is like where I'm comfortable with and like, I'm
very grateful to have my family's support and all that,
'cause I know not everyone is in that position.
But yeah, it also show that you could.
I don't know, why shouldn't my family approve of this?
It's a way to make money. It's a successful business.
That's what it is in today's economy.
Come on. In this economy.
Are you an only child?
No, I have a brother. Okay, yeah, he's 19.
He's awesome. Are you guys close?
Yes, you have the same exact age gap that I have with my brother.
Really. Yeah, yeah.
He feels like a baby though. He feels like even younger.
But no, I love him. He's like.
When I was younger I made my brother take all my photos of me
too. Ran that.
They weren't bikini shots, maybe.
Oh, my brother does not take my bikini photos.
I wouldn't like scar. I'm like, do you think I'm like
evil? No, my mom does that.
My brother. My brother edits like some stuff
for me, but not not anything like that.
Don't worry, I wouldn't like ruin his life like that.
It was just a bikini photo, so. OK.
Well, thank you so much for doing this.
This is delightful. Thanks, Margarita.
Thanks everyone. Thanks for having me double.
Delightful. Perfect.
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