1 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,640 Hi everyone, and welcome back to People Juwan and O Podcast. 2 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,200 I am so excited for today's episode. 3 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,480 You know, I have to be completely honest with you, the 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,800 views and the listens have been down the last few weeks. 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,920 And so I've been trying to get creative and think of a way to 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,960 bring new people in and keep you coming back. 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,120 So today I am super excited for our guests Queen Julia or Julia 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,320 ANG. Hi, everyone. 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,680 Hey, so we thought this was the best way to get people to listen 10 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,200 to the podcast. I'm so excited to be here and to 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,480 talk about everything. Thanks so much for being here. 12 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:48,840 I'm so glad you're here. You're the breast. 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,360 This is Julia Ain, which she made sure to tell me to say Ain 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,680 like Anus. Julia is a Canadian born content 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,280 creator and influencer with over 1.3 million followers across 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,480 platforms. Her work as a digital 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,960 entertainer has earned her the prestigious USO 1B Extraordinary 18 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:11,920 Ability Talent Visa, granted to no more than 20,000 people per 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,640 year online. She is also proudly Jewish, 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,520 advocating for us with her chest. 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,720 In today's episode, you'll learn all about her incredible story 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,720 and her unconventional career path. 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,640 Please enjoy this episode up top. 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,560 I guess we got to address the elephant in the room here with 25 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,280 us. Your melons. 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,840 My melons so I brought two different types. 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,400 We have cantaloupe and honeydew. Let me know what you prefer. 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,160 I wasn't sure like what you liked. 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,840 I love cantaloupe. Thank you so much. 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,960 OK, so I want to start by asking you the same question that I 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,640 start with for every guest. Please tell us about yourself. 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,440 Oh my God, I I am so sorry. I keep getting distracted by the 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,120 jugs. The jugs. 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:00,200 Oh, you mean these jugs? Here you go, Margarita. 35 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,280 Don't worry, I got you. Yeah, it's always good to have 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,160 something. Yeah, of course it's thirsty. 37 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,640 I'm thirsty. OK, I guess now we can get 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,560 started. Yeah, yeah. 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,240 Let's get started. I'm going to go change. 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,280 Welcome back, Julia. I'm back. 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,720 OK, please tell us about yourself. 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,400 What do you do and how did you get there? 43 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,520 I was born in Montreal, so I think most people at this point 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,320 know that I'm Canadian. But if you don't, I'm I'm 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,680 Canadian. And then I lived in the Toronto 46 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,240 GTA for a bit and moved back to Montreal for university. 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,320 And so I went to McGill for university and I had always 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,760 planned on becoming a lawyer. I actually wasn't entirely sure 49 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,800 if I want to become a lawyer or a journalist. 50 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,040 I was kind of like trying to decide while I was still in 51 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,880 school, but I'd always planned on going to grad school or law 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:41,320 school. I had never planned to do social 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,720 media. I always was like, I'm either 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,320 going to be a lawyer or a journalist or do something in 55 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,360 that realm. And then over COVID, I was born 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,080 during the pandemic. And actually in Montreal during 57 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,080 that time, there was a curfew, so people were not allowed to 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,360 leave their house. In Montreal in 2021, past 8:00 59 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,200 PM, you had to, like, stay at home. 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,320 And so during this time period, I, like, started posting a lot 61 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,000 on social media and it randomly started to take off. 62 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,640 And it kind of was like staring at me in the face. 63 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:11,880 And it's like, I feel like this is like an opportunity that I'm 64 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,600 not going to be able to, like, have again. 65 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,160 And I should kind of focus on this instead of, you know, like 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,880 school will always be there. I can always go back to school 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,200 if I want. But this is like, right now, 68 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,200 this is a time sensitive thing. So I started taking social media 69 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,360 seriously in like, 2022. And I've been doing it 70 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,440 consistently for the past few years, but as my full time job 71 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,560 about like just under three years now. 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,680 So yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. 73 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,240 And I never expected to do this ever. 74 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,440 I always saw myself as like, I'm going to go into like a Pert. 75 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,280 Like I had straight A's in high school. 76 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,760 I had a million extracurriculars. 77 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,640 I did the morning announcements, I did the news, I did theater, I 78 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,280 did everything. And I was like, I'm going to 79 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,360 become a lawyer. And I I had this like in my head 80 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,960 and then it just totally switched. 81 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,480 And I never would have been able to see myself in this position. 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,560 But I love it now that I'm here. I have to say though, that 83 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,800 somebody that comes across your page on the Internet might think 84 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,160 of you as like a funny Jewish girl with big boobs. 85 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:08,560 But to do what you do at a level of a career full time, it takes 86 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,360 business acumen. So the fact that you were a 87 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,280 straight A student, that you went to McGill, that you're 88 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:20,640 clearly gifted and. Boost my ego even more. 89 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:26,200 Thanks man, Keeping it humble. No, I do mean that sincerely. 90 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,320 And what I want to pick your brain on is now that you've been 91 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,720 doing social media for for five years, you kind of have to learn 92 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,160 on the job. It's not like you learn to do it 93 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,600 at school. What do you think you've? 94 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Learned man. It's all about marketing 95 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,200 yourself. So how I make the majority of my 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,560 money is literally by selling my bikini photos. 97 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,240 I'm on an app called Fanfix. It's a safe for work platform. 98 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,600 It doesn't allow any nudity. It kind of is like a cross 99 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,280 between an Instagram and an only fans. 100 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,600 So it's different from Only Fans because it doesn't allow nudity, 101 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,960 but I literally sell like my bikini photos on that platform 102 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,240 and also just post like regular life stuff. 103 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Like I'll post little vlogs or me going to the gym and it's a 104 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,240 place where I get to talk to my followers. 105 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Like a lot of it is just like wholesome content. 106 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,280 But I also do that and that's where I make the vast majority 107 00:05:10,280 --> 00:05:13,160 of my money, which is insane to think that that is even how 108 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,480 people make money. So that is, I think, also a big 109 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,720 misconception about people who do social medias that everyone 110 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,800 assumes that you're doing like hardcore stuff on Only Fans. 111 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,320 And a lot of the times it's like genuinely not the case. 112 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,640 There is such a range. There are so many beautiful 113 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,880 women in the world, so many amazing talented people. 114 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,880 A lot of it has nothing to do with talent, actually. 115 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,920 It's mostly about how you're able to market yourself. 116 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Because there are 1,000,000 people more talented than me. 117 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:38,960 I can tell you that flat out people. 118 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,560 There are 1,000,000 people who can sing, dance, all this 119 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,560 talent. It's mostly not about that. 120 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,880 It's about how you're able to market yourself. 121 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,440 So for this job specifically, there are lots of pretty girls. 122 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,280 It's not even mostly about that. It's literally just being able 123 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:54,280 to market yourself, being able to post consistently, being able 124 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,000 to have fans who like you and see you as an actual like real 125 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,520 person instead of just this random like famous person. 126 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,680 So that is what a lot of it is more about that people kind of 127 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,760 miss. People think, Oh, it's one viral 128 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,600 video. That's it. 129 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,720 No, it's not. It's actually about people 130 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,960 liking you as a person and getting attached to that and 131 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,400 coming back day after day and and watching it. 132 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,080 And so that's what I know from doing this for so long is that 133 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,000 the people who are able to succeed are the people who are 134 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,200 able to build those fans to watch them for that that long of 135 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,480 a time that don't just like check out after like, you know, 136 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,920 a month or two months, etcetera. At what point did you decide 137 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,880 that you would want to apply for the talent visa to be in the? 138 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,920 US Oh, I always knew I wanted to move to the US. 139 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,880 It's just really hard to immigrate to the US or even get 140 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,200 a work visa. It is so hard if even if you're 141 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,680 a Canadian, like people think that it's easier for Canadians 142 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:46,600 to do it. It's not. 143 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,960 It is so difficult and I really don't know, like you have to be 144 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,200 like, so exceptional, like, like basically prove otherwise that 145 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,080 you're the only person able to do that job, that nobody in the 146 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,400 US can do your job otherwise. Like that's the only other way 147 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,800 to be able to immigrate. I always knew I want to move to 148 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,240 the US, whether I was going to do it by going to like an 149 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,160 American law school. That was kind of how I thought 150 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,760 maybe I would go about it. But then with this, I was like 151 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,360 that, this is like perfect. Because I it's also really 152 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,480 helpful for me to be able to do my work in the US Like this is a 153 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,200 central thing is that it's actually so much better to do a 154 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,760 lot of like, content creation stuff here. 155 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,240 There's just things that aren't accessible to Canadians. 156 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:31,000 So it was so worth it for me. But yeah, so I decided in 2023 157 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,360 and had begun working on my application and it took about a 158 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,680 year for it to to go through. And so I got it in 2024 in the 159 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,880 summer. When you started out though, you 160 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,400 didn't start out right away with bikini pics, right? 161 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,560 You did no dancing videos on TikTok? 162 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,360 When did you make the connection that you were like actually I 163 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,840 should pivot to this? Yeah, so, so this is 164 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,240 interesting. So I was actually so vehemently 165 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,840 against it at the beginning back in 2021. 166 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,120 Also, you have to keep in mind, I was 20 years years old, I was 167 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,200 still in university. I still had it in my head that I 168 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,960 was going to go and, and go to law school and do all these 169 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,440 things. And I kind of always saw it as 170 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:13,080 if I do this, I can't do this. It's like, oh, well, if I decide 171 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,880 to do any type of like social media ever, like I just will 172 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,280 never be able to get a real job as a lawyer. 173 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,560 I'll never whatever. So I kind of always was like, 174 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,360 oh, if I decide to do this, then I won't become a lawyer. 175 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,400 And so I always disregarded it. Then over maybe a year or two 176 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,000 years, I just saw so many people around me, how successful they 177 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,760 were able to come in such a short amount of time and kind of 178 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,679 seeing the job market around me also to kind of deteriorate 179 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,440 around me. So in Toronto, like there's just 180 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,800 so few good jobs. Like that's just the reality of 181 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,520 it. Like the housing market is 182 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,040 insane. The Canadian dollar is not good. 183 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,880 Everything is really expensive and there aren't really any good 184 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,400 jobs. Same thing. 185 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,320 Montreal is a little bit better, but just in Toronto specifically 186 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,200 where my family all is, it was not a great situation. 187 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,000 And so I was kind of looking at this opportunity and I was like, 188 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,760 this is like unlike anything else that I can even compare it 189 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,720 to. And I think I had a lot of 190 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,160 stigma around it. I think that was the main reason 191 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,360 why I didn't want to do it is that I was like, oh, people are 192 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,000 going to think I'm stupid if I do this. 193 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,320 People are, you know, going to think down on me. 194 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,320 And I actually kind of felt that way too, almost from like people 195 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,240 I went to university with that it was like, like embarrassing 196 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,320 to do this. It was shameful. 197 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,920 Then as soon as I became successful at it, of course, 198 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,840 everyone turns around and it's like, oh, I want to do it too. 199 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,400 How did you do it? I want to learn too, because 200 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,400 that's always how it goes. But at the time, I was a little 201 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,080 embarrassed. I was like, oh, I think I'm 202 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,400 above this. Like I was supposed to become a 203 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,400 lawyer. I don't want to be selling my 204 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,560 bikini photos. What what is this? 205 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,560 Now I look at it totally differently because this has 206 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:49,960 given me so much freedom and the ability to do so many other 207 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,480 things and just enjoy my life in a way that I would have never 208 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,440 been able to do had I gone to school, had I been in student 209 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,640 debt and honestly, probably even risking losing my job to AI. 210 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,480 That now, you know, I've been able to do all these other 211 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,160 things. I see myself as being really 212 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,120 like lucky to have had that opportunity. 213 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,960 That's amazing. Do you think you have any advice 214 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,640 on how to market, be it yourself or your brand or your business? 215 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,200 I think it goes in so many fields that you need to be 216 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,480 unapologetically yourself because otherwise I think things 217 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,320 will bother you. So like so much like you need to 218 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,880 be so confident in yourself that no matter what anyone else has 219 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,480 to say around you has to say to you, has to say online, like it 220 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,160 does not bother you. Like for me, like I get so many 221 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,440 bad comments. I, I do not care because I'm 222 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,280 just like, well, I'm confident when I post. 223 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,960 You know, that doesn't necessarily mean I think 224 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,200 everything I post is great, but I'm confident in myself. 225 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,400 I'm confident when I do. I'm like, OK, this is out there, 226 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,600 this is my job, this is it. And no matter what someone says 227 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,360 like it, it doesn't bother me because I'm not shaken up by it. 228 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,600 So that's like I think A1 like piece of advice I've had to 229 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,720 other people is like you cannot let what other people have to 230 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,720 say about it affect you. You just can't. 231 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,000 You need to have belief in yourself because if you don't 232 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,440 even believe in yourself how you supposed to expect other people 233 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,040 to? A massive following. 234 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,640 So like you need to believe, it's like, OK, I can do this, 235 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,480 and then other people will believe that you can do it too. 236 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,760 And then eventually it works. Do you ever look back on like 237 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,920 the early content you posted and we're like. 238 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Why? Oh my God. 239 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,800 Yeah. So much of it so cringe. 240 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:23,040 I mean, really like my God. I, I definitely look back on 241 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,280 some of it, even some I posted like a year ago and I'm like, 242 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,640 this is so cringe. But sometimes you can't really 243 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,080 see it until it's, it's done. And there's nothing I've ever 244 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,280 posted that I'm like, damn. Like I really regret that. 245 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,080 Like I don't really feel that way about anything. 246 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,840 I'm just like, well, like it's out there and I'm pretty careful 247 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,480 about stuff I post to begin with. 248 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,240 But it's definitely cringe. Do I regret it? 249 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:42,560 No. But do I look at it and I'm 250 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:46,920 like, Oh yeah. A big part of your presence 251 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,840 online is also the fact that you're openly Jewish. 252 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,200 Yeah. And you grew up in Canada. 253 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,080 Both Montreal and Toronto have sizable Jewish populations 254 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,480 there. Can you tell me a little bit 255 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,760 about your Jewish upbringing and how having big boobs in the 256 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,680 Jewish community has impacted you? 257 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,880 So I actually think it's really interesting because I really 258 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,960 didn't grow up in a Jewish community at all. 259 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,240 I think that's actually how I kind of why I gravitated so much 260 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,160 like to the Internet almost is because that kind of became my 261 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,880 community at the time. So I didn't grow up. 262 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,080 I had one Jewish friend growing up, but it was basically only 263 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,160 me. I was like the only Jewish 264 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,760 person in my whole high school in the like Toronto GTA, Like 265 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,080 that's where we lived. It was basically just me. 266 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,280 And in university, that's finally when I started making 267 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,200 Jewish friends. But in high school I was like 268 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,240 pretty much totally isolated, which I actually think has given 269 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,000 me a leg up in a lot of ways now, because I feel like the 270 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,440 Jewish community can be very insulated and very much in its 271 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,000 own bubble. And I feel like from a young 272 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,320 age, I was never in that bubble. So now still, I, I see what 273 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,440 like, you know, a lot of people who aren't Jewish think about 274 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,400 things have to say. And I still have a lot of 275 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,440 friends who aren't Jewish too, where I kind of get both sides 276 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,040 of it, where now I do have this like world and lots of Jewish 277 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,880 friends and like my family who's Jewish and all of that, but also 278 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:03,800 still can understand this other like, you know, perspective, I 279 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,080 guess. How has being Jewish been 280 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,240 received by people that follow you in a more intimate 281 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,000 environment, if you will? I'm one of the few Jewish 282 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,200 creators who also was openly Jewish before October 7th. 283 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,040 So I can say first hand the change before and after October 284 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,000 7th. But it always like hatred 285 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,200 towards Jews always existed. It was always very obvious to 286 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,160 me. It was just done in a much more 287 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,360 like covert way. Like it was like, now the things 288 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,720 that are posted, nobody would have ever posted five years ago, 289 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,400 but it was still, people still thought it. 290 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,120 They just didn't have the confidence to say it. 291 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,400 So a few examples of that. If you look back on my comments 292 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,560 in 2021, people were still saying the same stuff. 293 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:48,360 I would post a random video of me just literally existing doing 294 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:49,960 nothing. I would just be wearing my Star 295 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,360 of David. It could be just me eating a 296 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,880 sandwich. And then all the comments are 297 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,400 like free Palestine, free pal, or like, you know, the sandwich 298 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,120 was promised to her 3000 years ago. 299 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,760 Like all these things that people would still come at that. 300 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,560 And that was before October 7th. Me not being a political figure 301 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:10,560 in any way, me not even really talking about Israel whatsoever 302 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:12,040 either. Like none of that having to do 303 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,200 with any of it. Me basically just existing and 304 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,880 getting all of this like attention and this negative 305 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,760 comments. And then after October 7th, 306 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,160 obviously that like exploded, but it was always there. 307 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,840 There was always an underbelly. So whenever people kind of were 308 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,520 like, oh, I could never have seen this coming. 309 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,160 I absolutely saw this coming back in 2021. 310 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,440 It was obvious then that this is the way a lot of Gen. 311 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,680 Z felt, especially Gen. Z. 312 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,560 So it wasn't surprising at all to me the way things have now 313 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,760 gone on on the Internet. Didn't someone comment something 314 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,680 on your post that was like I want to hate you but you're too 315 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,320 hot. People call it stuff like that 316 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,000 all the time and it's actually insane. 317 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,760 Like, I just like see all this and laugh. 318 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,000 Like I, I just don't care. Like it takes so much to bother 319 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,080 me. Then I'm just like, whatever. 320 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,840 It's kind of a compliment in a fun way. 321 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,800 There are tons of I'm sure people who like don't like Jews 322 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,360 that follow me that are like OK, I like this one. 323 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,600 You'll make it. Terrible. 324 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,400 It's terrible. But I'm just like, Oh my God. 325 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:08,880 Like, I mean, what am I supposed to do about that? 326 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,840 Like I just see it and I'm like, well, like, all right, like this 327 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,520 is what it is. But no, it's, it's scary for 328 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:16,520 sure. Let's talk. 329 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,280 About Milky Mansion, what is a content house? 330 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Are you guys like getting a rental in the Hamptons and 331 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,800 filming stuff for a weekend? Is there like some group chat? 332 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Like what does it mean to be part of a content house? 333 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,560 And how come you decided to start 1? 334 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,560 So Milk Mansion honestly just feels like one big joke. 335 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,160 I just can't believe sometimes that it's like taking off the 336 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,040 way that it is the pages of almost 400,000 followers on 337 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,320 Instagram. Like I'm sure by the time this 338 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,320 episode airs it's going to be at like way more than that. 339 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,680 And that actually is like almost scary to me because I just never 340 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,120 expected this many people to see it. 341 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,400 But Milk Mansion was a collaborative effort between me 342 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,360 and my friend on Yella who goes by Yell 0 on Instagram. 343 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,680 It was actually more her idea, like she was the one who came up 344 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,280 with the name Milk Mansion and and all of that, but I was the 345 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,360 one who kind of connected all the girls together. 346 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,440 So that's why about half the girls in the house are Jewish is 347 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,400 because it was me kind of like over the past couple years, 348 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,120 becoming friends with everyone naturally. 349 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,840 And I just kind of gravitated towards becoming friends with 350 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:17,920 the Jewish girls on the Internet. 351 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,560 It just happened. It just happened like 352 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,120 organically. I don't really know how to 353 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,640 explain it. I think it stemmed from a place 354 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,280 of like them also being able to understand the way we were being 355 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,000 looked at on online, both in like, you know, people looking 356 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,000 at us and being like, oh, boobs and also being like, oh, Jewish 357 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,320 like both in that way, which was a way that almost no one else 358 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,520 could understand. So I think that's how I 359 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,840 gravitated more towards having Jewish friends online, which 360 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,880 then ended up becoming what would be Milk Mansion, which I 361 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,600 didn't realize at the time. But yeah. 362 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,080 So it's me, Galley Galan, who's like a big creator in Israel. 363 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:59,040 Funny enough, Jackie Harley, Justine Leila has Jewish 364 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,000 grandparents, but she's also Iranian. 365 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,320 So we like put her in. She's also like part Jewish. 366 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,440 And we were like, okay. And Alex and then there's a 367 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,200 bunch of other girls, the other half of the girls who aren't 368 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,440 Jewish at all, they're just like, it literally is not a 369 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:11,960 Jewish house. It's got nothing to do with it. 370 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,480 It's just half of us happen to be. 371 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,040 But so many of the comments now are like, is Israel paying you 372 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,800 to post this? Is this, Are you getting 7K per 373 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,640 post? And I'm like, no, like, this has 374 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,079 nothing to do with that. This is just us, like coming 375 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:27,720 together to make fun videos. But yeah, that's like what Milk 376 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,800 Mansion kind of is, is that it's a way for us obviously to like, 377 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,840 you know, whatever, promote like fanfics and only fans and people 378 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,280 to like do their content and stuff. 379 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,960 But I think foremost is just a group of friends really getting 380 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,320 together. Like we're not run by any 381 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,600 management or anything. And yeah, so we rent out a house 382 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,520 and we rented out a house in Pennsylvania. 383 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,320 We're renting at a house in Tampa in like a week to like 384 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,600 record a bunch of content. But yeah, so we just do 385 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,960 everything in bulk. Like we do like a week's, like 386 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,240 we do like 2 months worth of content in like a week. 387 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,120 So yeah, we all get matching outfits. 388 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,400 That's like essential. I'm trying to think of some 389 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,760 other stuff. But overall, like, at least for 390 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,360 me, it's important that we just have fun. 391 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:09,800 Like genuinely like like I have my own individual friendships 392 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,320 with pretty much everyone and like that is so important to me. 393 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,840 And making sure everyone's comfortable and likes what we 394 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,680 post. I think that's like the most 395 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,880 important part of the house. Like obviously like, you know, 396 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,200 people making money is important, but it's important 397 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,120 that everyone feels like safe so. 398 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:27,080 Yeah, that makes sense. How do you find ideas for what 399 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,120 content to shoot? How do you think of stuff? 400 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,440 We see what like other people are posting, but a lot of it 401 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,240 too, for me at least, so much of my content has always been 402 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,480 reaction based. Like it's based off what other 403 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,680 people have to say about me, have to say about like so much 404 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,480 of us reacting to comments. Like I feel like even how I got 405 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,520 popular in the 1st place was literally by reacting to 406 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,960 comments. Like it just kind of happened 407 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,680 that way. And so we kind of we'll just 408 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,720 look at what people were saying and then like react to it a lot 409 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,800 of the times. So that's how Milk Mansion even 410 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,200 came to be too, is that people would comment, oh, mommy 411 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,960 milkers, mommy milkers on our videos for the past five years 412 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,760 for my friend on Yella, some random person on the street just 413 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,040 screamed at her randomly got milk. 414 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,440 Like literally she was just walking down the street and they 415 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,800 screamed that at her. And she posted her reaction on 416 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,960 TikTok and it got like 30 million views. 417 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,200 And so that was kind of how the name was born was a reaction 418 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,520 base of our commenters. So I feel like a lot of our 419 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,680 content also was like that where it's it's reaction based even 420 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,320 how like again, I became popular, people make jokes that 421 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,960 I look like Ben Shapiro's sister. 422 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,160 That was like how a lot of it came to be. 423 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,800 That was reaction based. Have you met Ben Shapiro's? 424 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,960 Sister, no I don't think she would would want to meet me. 425 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,920 I don't know if I'd want to be here but my cousin did meet Ben 426 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,160 Shapiro actually which is so funny like randomly ran into 427 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,480 him. But they definitely know who I 428 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,720 am. There's no way at this point, 429 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,440 like it's just the meme has gone on 2 deep and it is way too 430 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,160 niche. This is the thing like it is 431 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,600 such a niche meme that there's no way that I'm like at least 432 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,360 his sister has had to see over this course. 433 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,440 My craziest moment with that was she was pregnant like a few 434 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,640 years ago and I heard that like there was a picture of her that 435 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,560 went viral and I dressed up as her for poor room. 436 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,280 Like it was literally like I took that photo and use it as 437 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,760 like a poor room costume and I'm just like, this was insane. 438 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,320 But anyways. Venture Beer, surprisingly, has 439 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,640 a great sense of humor. I have never paid attention to 440 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,200 Venture for your sense of humor. Maybe I should. 441 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,240 Maybe I should? Only to a sister. 442 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,920 Oh my God, I'm sure, I'm sure you have to have a good sense of 443 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,240 humor. If you're like on the Internet 444 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,120 like this much, you have to so. I want to pivot us to something 445 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:39,240 that I've been meaning to ask. You know, you share a lot of 446 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,560 your life online almost. It feels like almost everything 447 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,560 you're willing to share. Is there anything that you 448 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,360 haven't shared online that you can share with us here today? 449 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,480 There was a few things actually I was thinking about before 450 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,760 coming on here that I was like I wanted to talk about 451 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,960 specifically because I really don't talk very deeply about my 452 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,120 experience being a Jewish creator post October 7th. 453 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:01,840 I've never really liked taking the time to actually like talk 454 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,560 about what was going on in my personal life And just like how 455 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,000 this has affected me over the past couple years because like I 456 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,040 was saying, there's just not that many. 457 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,640 Like so many of the content creators now came after October 458 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,680 7th that I am like interested to see the people who were like 459 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,680 before and after how they feel like like because I now the 460 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,400 content creators in the space, them making content after 461 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,440 October 7th, like they chose to be in this horrific anti-Semitic 462 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,280 like environment, knowing that it was going to kind of be like 463 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,000 this. I feel like some of us, the ones 464 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,440 of us who were had a following before, we're just kind of 465 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,760 thrown into it. And I had no idea ever that I 466 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,800 would get thrown into this type of like hatred. 467 00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:47,360 And honestly, I am so happy for the way that everything is kind 468 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:49,080 of working stuff out. I think it's made me like a much 469 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,880 stronger person and like it's made me be successful. 470 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,040 But also to like it has definitely been difficult. 471 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,440 And so one of the things I want to talk about too, what I 472 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,840 noticed after October 7th, the amount of people that lost 473 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,320 friends after October 7th, I did not realize how common of an 474 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,080 experience that was for people. And that was something that 475 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,040 actually affected me in my personal life that I've never 476 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,640 shared online before. I lost three of my closest 477 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,200 friends after October 7th, somebody that was best friends 478 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,120 with for 10 years. Never in my life did I think 479 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:20,880 that something like this would happen and it just did. 480 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,040 And I, I was actually so grateful then for everything 481 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,480 that had happened online because it made me so confident in who I 482 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,800 was. Like, I know that like, I'm a 483 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,000 confident, proud Jewish woman that no matter like, what anyone 484 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,440 else has to say about this is who I am. 485 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,880 And like, if you don't like it, too bad. 486 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,800 And that's kind of always been my stance on that. 487 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,680 And like being able to walk away from things that aren't good for 488 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,560 me anymore because people just don't like who I am anymore, 489 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,760 apparently. And I think that's been a really 490 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,040 important lesson that I've seen the majority of people who have 491 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,680 had these experiences and instead of trying to fight for 492 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,400 these friends and trying to like dwindle themselves down and, you 493 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,600 know, and all that, you just go and make new friends. 494 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,400 And that's what I did. I was like, screw this. 495 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,760 I don't need any of this. I move countries. 496 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,640 I made new friends. And I'm so happy now with my 497 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,400 life. And I'm so happy that I didn't 498 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,560 try to change myself to make someone else still like me. 499 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,520 So I think that if anything should be a big take away for 500 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,200 other people as well is that like, we outgrow people and 501 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,840 like, you shouldn't stay with people who aren't good for you 502 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,040 anymore. And I'm just so happy with the 503 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,240 fact that like I'm able to now have loving friends that like, 504 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,080 you know, I share these things with and understand this. 505 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,400 I am not a political person. I'm not, you know, have anything 506 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,480 to do with the Israeli government. 507 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,280 I'm just like a random Jewish girl from Canada. 508 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,760 So that's the thing that it's like, you might not like what 509 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,920 the Israeli government does. I don't like what the Israeli 510 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,320 government does. But I also literally can't do 511 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,360 anything about it and have nothing to do. 512 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:51,720 And like I know for a lot of us too, after October 7th, like one 513 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,280 of my close friends was like family friends with Hirsch. 514 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,760 I know a lot of people were within like 1° of separation 515 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,360 from somebody that was affected by October 7th. 516 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,280 And that was the thing that I don't think other people 517 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,440 understood was how close like everyone was together. 518 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,400 And so I think too, that really played into it. 519 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,480 And it's like, you just don't understand anymore where I'm 520 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,040 coming from. These aren't random people 521 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,520 across the world. Like this feels like like people 522 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,680 I know this could have been me and like you just don't 523 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,080 understand this anymore. And so I think that was a big 524 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,480 transition. And I think now for the rest of 525 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,280 my life, I'm I will be very careful moving forward with 526 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,160 making sure that, you know, something like this, that like 527 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,320 we are aligned on these things because these are things that 528 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,880 matter to me now. Like this is not something 529 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,360 that's ever going to go away. And if somebody doesn't like the 530 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,400 fact that I'm Jewish or think that that Israel as a country 531 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,720 should exist and I'm sorry, like we just can't be friends, that's 532 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,360 just what it is. And I'm not going to like 533 00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:47,280 sacrifice like that part of myself because somebody else 534 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,040 doesn't like it. And people now, like always have 535 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,000 something to complain about. Well, complain all you want. 536 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,920 I don't care. This is who I am so. 537 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,720 What about the flip side of it and being received by the Jewish 538 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,560 community? How do you think the Jewish 539 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,560 influencers welcomed you? Honestly pretty good. 540 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,000 Like honestly, I've had like good experiences with almost 541 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,040 everyone. Yeah, I think. 542 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,840 Most not to love. Well, I have to say, like I've 543 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,960 had really positive experiences with basically everyone. 544 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,360 I don't think most people care like what you really like. 545 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,600 Like we're all equal, you know, that's it. 546 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,320 I think a lot of people especially like what I post, 547 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,200 they find it interesting. And that's what I think is 548 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,600 important too with Jewish content creators is that you 549 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,480 kind of see it as like, oh, like everyone imagines like Zach Sage 550 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,320 Foxes, like that's not the bully Zach, even though sometimes I do 551 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,640 bully Zach, but that's not the bully Zach. 552 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,880 But it's like, there's other ways that like, like a Jewish 553 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,600 content creator can look that also can be helpful. 554 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,960 And I think this is really important too, that we are in 555 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,240 our own echo chamber. And this is the issue with some 556 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,760 Jewish content creators is that they are speaking in an echo 557 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,200 chamber. And that's why I think it's so 558 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,600 important for people that have like an audience that isn't even 559 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,680 mostly Jewish to still talk about these things because it's 560 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,520 getting to like a different group of people. 561 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,280 But so that's why I actually think that a lot of Jewish 562 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,600 content creators do kind of like what I post because it's 563 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,120 different and it's funny and it's meant to be like light 564 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:10,440 hearted. And like, that's what I think is 565 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,280 important too, right? That like you have people that 566 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,640 do serious activism and, and that work is so important. 567 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,680 I don't think I could do that work. 568 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,200 I think that work could make me just miserable. 569 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,560 But I also think it's important to have like comedy and things 570 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,600 that are light hearted because if you look on your phone every 571 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,440 day and just see things that are depressing, that's going to also 572 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,960 just make you depressed. Like your need to have balance 573 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:33,960 and so much of being Jewish about humor and all those things 574 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,800 that I think it's important. I think if anything, my content 575 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,240 is inherently Jewish because it's meant to be funny and like 576 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,720 push against what's like, you know, even though Jews have 577 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,800 always lived through hard times, we've made the best of it. 578 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,840 And I feel like that's always kind of been my Ave. as well. 579 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,480 And if something bad happens, well, I'm just going to turn 580 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,560 around and make it into a good thing. 581 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,640 I'm going to make it an opportunity, make money, make 582 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,040 the most of it. Like I'm not going to sit here 583 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,800 and complain and like, or maybe I'll complain a bit, but I'm not 584 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,360 going to like, you know, I'm going to move forward. 585 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,000 I realized I don't even remember how we met. 586 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,400 I have no idea either. How did we meet? 587 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,160 We need to go back and like look at the photos. 588 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,360 You know what I think it was? I'm guessing that we probably 589 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:15,320 met from online, but then I had that Shabbat in March of last 590 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,840 year. Oh my God, you. 591 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,520 And Harley and Tess came, and that was the first time that I 592 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,960 met you in person. And it meant so much to me that 593 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,320 you guys showed up and I just was like, wow, I can't believe 594 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,280 that I'm connected to all of these different, interesting, 595 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,960 dynamic people. But I realized I like. 596 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,520 I don't actually remember how we met exactly, honestly. 597 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,800 This whole thing is 1 big blur. Like it genuinely is 1 big blur. 598 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,240 Like I can't remember anymore either. 599 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,520 The internet's so small. That's the other thing too, is 600 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,600 that at this one, I feel like I know I, I feel like I know 601 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,840 everyone. And then there's just new people 602 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,600 constantly popping up. And I'm like, never mind. 603 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,360 Like, like, I thought I had everyone down, but I guess not. 604 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,840 And yeah, I just wanted to add to, like, I have so much social 605 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,360 media experience over the past five years. 606 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,680 Seeing the way Genz opinions on Jews have changed over the past 607 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,560 five years is really scary. I don't know if Jewish 608 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,360 organizations realize how much Gen. 609 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:14,360 Z like, the Internet is like a lot of Gen. 610 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,000 Z's entire world. Like, that is where they spend 611 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,200 most of their time scrolling on TikTok, scrolling through 612 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Instagram, like sending reels and memes to their friends, like 613 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,960 younger people. That is so much of what they do 614 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,240 now, especially over the pandemic. 615 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,840 I went on Instagram reels a few weeks ago or a couple weeks ago 616 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,600 after everything with Jeffrey Epstein came out, every single 617 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,720 reel with hundreds of thousands of likes saying like the worst 618 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,120 stuff in connection with like all of that. 619 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,080 But like nothing actually factual or true. 620 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,440 Like all these terrible like conspiracy theories and all 621 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,080 things that I'm just like, I can't believe people are now 622 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,240 believing this about Drew's like this is insane and all these 623 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,960 like things and and nobody really seeming to address it, at 624 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,120 least within this like context of these things that are jokes. 625 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,040 It's it's a meme. It's a joke, but it has a 626 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,920 million likes. That is insane that this joke 627 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,880 about Jeffrey Epstein being Jewish and oh of course he was 628 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,320 Jewish, blah blah blah, has a million likes on Instagram reels 629 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,520 and I'm not sure if the ADL or whoever else is aware about how 630 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,920 bad this is. It's not just a little bit bad. 631 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,120 This is the, this is all most of Gen. 632 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,720 Z sees about Jews because most, most, most young people have 633 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,400 probably never even met a Jewish person. 634 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,440 Most people in general have never met a Jewish person, 635 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,880 right? Narrow that down to young people 636 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,240 who only see these terrible things in the news and it really 637 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,520 is scary just seeing how much it has changed because even three 638 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,880 years ago it did not look like that. 639 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,440 You could not post that stuff and have it be received in that 640 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,960 way. The comments section would not 641 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,240 all agree with it. Now if you post something 642 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,240 heavily anti-Semitic all the comments will be like Oh yeah I 643 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,080 agree that's hilarious. Hitler was right or mustache man 644 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,840 was right. Like that will be the comments 645 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,160 agreeing with it. You did not have a response 646 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,800 three years ago. So that is a massive change in 647 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,120 such a short span of time. And yes, some of that might be 648 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,720 bots, some of that might be some interference, but a lot of that 649 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,920 is real. That is not just like, oh, fake, 650 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,680 fake accounts. Like, no, I can see there's been 651 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,120 a huge change in how young people see Jews and Jewish 652 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,200 organizations really need to get better at social media because 653 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,960 that is how all young people consume information now. 654 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,320 And I just think we are totally missing the mark. 655 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,040 And it it scares me. One of the efforts that's 656 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,600 happening now is. My 2 cents on the matter is it's 657 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,400 not that the ADL doesn't know, right? 658 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,160 They know. And whether they know if it's 659 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,360 bad, very bad or horrible, it doesn't matter. 660 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,360 They know it's bad enough. They just don't know what to do. 661 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,640 I know, I don't know what to do. Either and right. 662 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,480 And so we are all aware that there's a problem, but what is 663 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,400 the right way to chip away at it? 664 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,480 And one of the initiatives that I see, which is like sneaky and 665 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,920 smart, there are organizations popping up that are 666 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,720 philanthropically funded. And their whole thing is in 667 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,200 engaging creators who are not Jewish or do not cater to a 668 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,320 Jewish niche to make subtle content that frames Jews 669 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,840 positively. And this is very smart because 670 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,040 it creates coalitions and allies. 671 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,120 It reframes the narrative around what commentary is appropriate 672 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,360 about Jews, framing Jews as heroes, not villains, Right. 673 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,240 So that's the approach that some smart Jewish organizations are 674 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,520 starting to take, is investing in creators who are adjacent, 675 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,120 who can become good allies or spokespeople for us, good 676 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,160 ambassadors for us. I mean, that sounds great. 677 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,040 I just don't know if older people really realize how bad it 678 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,640 is. Like, I think it's that. 679 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,080 I think it's that I don't like. The older generation is a little 680 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,560 bit delusional about how severe the problem is and what is 681 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,280 required to solve it. They're using old methods that 682 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,720 don't work. And I think the part where I 683 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,480 would agree with you is whether it be, you know, one Jewish 684 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,480 nonprofit or another, to have the hubris to continue to ask 685 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,840 for donations when you yourself cannot go on the record and say 686 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,640 exactly what you plan to do to combat anti-Semitism, You should 687 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,560 sit down. Like, that's what bothers me. 688 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,480 If you don't know how to fix the problem, stop asking people for 689 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,240 money. That's it. 690 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,920 Yeah. I'm not asking. 691 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,440 Anyone for money, I admit full out, I don't know how to fix the 692 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,560 problem. I know I I observe, I observe 693 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,840 all of this and I'm scared, but I don't really know how how you 694 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,520 fix it other than like trying to produce something positive out 695 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,000 of it. That's always been my way. 696 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,480 I guess is trying to make a joke out of it, trying to make 697 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,600 something like hearted out of it. 698 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,880 So I guess that actually is my way. 699 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,200 But as an organization, I don't know how you how you do that. 700 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,600 You know, I wonder what would you tell your younger self now, 701 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,280 looking back, kind of where you're at. 702 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,280 Man, you know what, don't take anything too seriously. 703 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,240 I actually think that might be my advice. 704 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,280 I was thinking about this the other day. 705 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,400 Like we we're all here for like a limited time and I think we 706 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,560 spend so much time being so worried about everything. 707 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,200 Even even a lot of this podcast is me worried about the future 708 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,040 and I I am worried about the state of some things, but also 709 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,560 like we need to enjoy the moment like nothing's ever promised and 710 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,240 I think we need to make the most of every day. 711 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,840 And I feel like in a lot of ways, like Jews do that every, 712 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,160 like we care so much about community. 713 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,080 We care so much about getting together and the holidays and, 714 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,400 and, and being together. And that I think is so important 715 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,080 because that's what actually matters. 716 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,320 You know, like, we're all here for a limited amount of time, 717 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,600 like make the most of it. So I feel like that is a message 718 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,760 I would tell my younger self is to stop worrying so much that 719 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,240 just like enjoy everything and it's never that serious. 720 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,520 Like things will work themselves out and that everything's a more 721 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080 a lot more fun when you stop taking everything so seriously. 722 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,760 To be honest. Because I think about that now. 723 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,680 Like I feel like my whole life's a joke, but it's like 1 big 724 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,760 awesome joke. So I'm just like the it's great. 725 00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,920 Like today is just better that way. 726 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,560 Thank you so much for doing this. 727 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,080 Tell me, how can people connect with you and keep up with your 728 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,480 work? It's Queen Julia on like all of 729 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,840 my socials so can write it. It's spelled QV ENJULAA, so 730 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,159 yeah. Amazing. 731 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:14,520 And I have one final question for you. 732 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,520 It's one that I ask every guest. Who would you like to nominate 733 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,679 for people? Do you want to know? 734 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,600 Oh, I I Amelia. Yeah. 735 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:23,960 Yeah. Perfect. 736 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,840 Or Tess. Like either one of the two. 737 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,040 Tess, I'm sure would love to. Come on if Tess comes on. 738 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,560 We have to wear shirts. You do? 739 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,159 Yes, we have to make shirts. But yeah, I I vote Amelia or 740 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:34,239 Tess. Yeah. 741 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,080 These are fantastic nominations. I'm so glad we got to do this. 742 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:38,360 Yes. You're the breast. 743 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,320 Thanks. Thanks. 744 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,080 Karita. Margarita has talent, too. 745 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,840 I thought she was going to show it on the podcast, but I guess 746 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,080 not. But Margarita's secretly 747 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,199 talented. I'm undercover. 748 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,360 She's undercover. But she she could be a part of 749 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,320 Milk Mansion if she won't. Honestly, it's my dream to film 750 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,360 like a little funny. Honestly I think they should 751 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,640 like try to get her on. So I not to expose my mom, but 752 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,280 one day I got a call from my mom and this is I pick up the phone 753 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,640 and this is what I hear and I'm like mom, what's wrong? 754 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,720 And she's like, I open my Instagram and there's a video of 755 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:12,960 you touching your boobs. What video is this? 756 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,400 The one we made. What what video is that? 757 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,120 I need to see it and it's literally the video. 758 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,720 I added it perfect you're. The one you made. 759 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,880 And I was like, mom, it's a joke. 760 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,920 It's part of a podcast promo. And she's like, Oh my God, Rita. 761 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,400 That's so funny, I think my mom just saw that and laughed. 762 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,920 That's another thing I actually would like to add in. 763 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,360 It was very important to me throughout everything that I did 764 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,160 that my family was supportive of it and that I had their that 765 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,040 they had my back and they have always been very supportive in 766 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:44,920 everything that I do. And I literally could not do 767 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,120 this if it wasn't my mom literally helps me take my 768 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,080 pictures for me. She's literally like my 769 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,280 photographer. I love you mom, but I literally 770 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,640 could not do this without my my family's health and they have 771 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,320 been very integral in a lot of my decision making. 772 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,600 This is like where I'm comfortable with and like, I'm 773 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,240 very grateful to have my family's support and all that, 774 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:06,920 'cause I know not everyone is in that position. 775 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,840 But yeah, it also show that you could. 776 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,680 I don't know, why shouldn't my family approve of this? 777 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,520 It's a way to make money. It's a successful business. 778 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,560 That's what it is in today's economy. 779 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,200 Come on. In this economy. 780 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,000 In this economy. Are you an only child? 781 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,000 No, I have a brother. Okay, yeah, he's 19. 782 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,000 He's awesome. Are you guys close? 783 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000 Yes, you have the same exact age gap that I have with my brother. 784 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,400 Really. Yeah, yeah. 785 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,720 He feels like a baby though. He feels like even younger. 786 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,560 But no, I love him. He's like. 787 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,840 When I was younger I made my brother take all my photos of me 788 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,640 too. Ran that. 789 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,880 They weren't bikini shots, maybe. 790 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,840 Oh, my brother does not take my bikini photos. 791 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,840 I wouldn't like scar. I'm like, do you think I'm like 792 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,680 evil? No, my mom does that. 793 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,720 My brother. My brother edits like some stuff 794 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:53,240 for me, but not not anything like that. 795 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:54,840 Don't worry, I wouldn't like ruin his life like that. 796 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,840 It was just a bikini photo, so. OK. 797 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,320 Well, thank you so much for doing this. 798 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,000 This is delightful. Thanks, Margarita. 799 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,440 Thanks everyone. Thanks for having me double. 800 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,760 Delightful. Perfect. 801 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,320 Amazing. If you've enjoyed this podcast, 802 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,400 please go ahead and rate US five stars. 803 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,160 Be the first to hear our episodes by subscribing to 804 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,120 PEOPLE Do You Want to Know? 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