1 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,160 Hello, welcome to the Decipher podcast. 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,600 I'm Dennis Fisher. Welcome to our weekly news wrap 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,080 up edition of the podcast. Before we get started, here's 4 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:24,560 how you can get a hold of us. Obviously you're listening to 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,560 this podcast, so you know how to find that, but if you want to 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,920 send us an e-mail, you can get me at Dennis at decipher dot SC. 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,520 You can find us on social media at Decipher SEC. 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,000 That's our Twitter, our blue sky handle. 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,640 It's also our YouTube channel. You can find us there. 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Most of our podcasts are also video podcasts now, aside from 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:51,920 these weekly news wrap episodes because you don't need to just 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,720 look at me staring into my laptop talking to you about 13 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,160 security stories on a on a Thursday evening or Friday 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,080 morning, whenever you're listening to this. 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,640 But the rest of our podcasts are up on our YouTube channel. 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,600 And we had one that went up this week early in the week, I think 17 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,560 it was Monday with Ryan Dewhurst from Watchtower, which is a 18 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,880 really cool conversation I had with Ryan. 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,320 We talked a lot about his background, how he got into 20 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,720 hacking and cybersecurity in general. 21 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:29,680 And also the work that Watchtower does kind of the, you 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,720 know, threat intelligence landscape as a whole, that whole 23 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,120 world. So it's, I'd encourage you to go 24 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,560 listen or watch to really fun conversation. 25 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Ryan's a really smart and engaging guy. 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:46,080 So it was a lot of fun. And we have another podcast 27 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,760 coming. We're going to record it next 28 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,000 week. Not sure if we'll post it next 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,720 week, probably the week after. Hacker movie podcast. 30 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,880 Doing this with two of my good friends, Wade Baker and Rich 31 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Mogul, and we are doing Star Wars. 32 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,560 That's right, Hacker Movie podcast about Star Wars. 33 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,200 Those two guys, Rich and Wade, both huge Star Wars fans. 34 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,240 I'm a Star Wars, appreciate her. I like Star Wars. 35 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,760 I'm not an obsessive like some folks in the security community 36 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,640 are. I've seen all the movies. 37 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:25,080 You know, I'm of the generation where the the original trilogy 38 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,760 was our kind of thing. You know, I saw those things in 39 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,360 the theater, so should be a fun one. 40 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,680 We had a few requests from people that were like, why don't 41 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,800 you guys do Star Wars? It's like the original Hacker 42 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,120 movie. And I thought about it a little 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,400 bit. I was like, yeah, you know what 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,960 kind of is? Let's do it. 45 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,720 So watch out for that one. I'll obviously let everybody 46 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,000 know on social media when that goes up, but it should be a 47 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,280 really fun one. Rich and Wade know a whole lot 48 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,440 about the whole Star Wars universe, so you might actually 49 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,320 learn something as well as being entertained. 50 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,320 So all right, let's dive into the news this week. 51 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,120 It was one of those weeks where, you know, it was Microsoft Patch 52 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,400 Tuesday, and also Apple released some pretty important security 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,440 updates. Start with the Microsoft 54 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,400 updates. You know, as usual, dozens and 55 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,160 dozens of patches from Microsoft across all of their product 56 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,600 lines. Windows, Windows Server, Office, 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,400 you know, you know the drill. But this was kind of an unusual 58 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:28,080 one because Microsoft patched 6 vulnerabilities that had been 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,600 actively exploited. 6 is a lot you guys like usually if there's 60 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,120 one or two in the Microsoft monthly updates, it gets some 61 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:44,840 attention. 6 is a whole lot. I can't recall that many in 62 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,080 recent memory. I'm I'm sure there have been six 63 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,960 in a month, but 6 is a ton. The total number of CVS patched 64 00:03:53,960 --> 00:04:00,120 this month was 60, so 10% or you know, a little more than 60 CVS. 65 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,520 So almost 10% of the vulnerabilities have been 66 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,480 actively exploited in the wild. It's quite a lot. 67 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,560 We have all the details in the story that's up on the site 68 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,040 right now. You can go and look at that. 69 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,680 If you haven't looked through the the Microsoft updates and 70 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,920 advisories, you should do that for sure. 71 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,279 If you're a window shop, which I think everybody is, you don't 72 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,640 really have a lot of choice, but go have a look at those. 73 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:30,800 There are, you know, varying degrees of seriousness of the 74 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,320 vulnerabilities, but the fact that these six have all been 75 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,480 exploited tells you something. At least one of them, I think 76 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,600 maybe two were identified in conjunction with Google's threat 77 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,640 intelligence group, which tells you something. 78 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,040 A couple of them are elevation of privilege. 79 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:54,040 A couple of them are, you know, more serious than that. 80 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,000 So go have a look at those. The one that kind of stood out 81 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:05,600 to me was CBE 202621533, which is in the Windows Remote Desktop 82 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:12,040 Services feature. It's kind of an issue with the 83 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:18,480 privilege management and it was discovered by crowd strike 84 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,160 researchers, which also tells you something. 85 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,000 Those are the ones you want to pay attention to. 86 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,720 It does require authorization, but obviously there are ways to 87 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,040 go about gaining that authorization on a Windows 88 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,760 system. So the fact that crowd strike 89 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:40,160 researchers reported this tells you that it may have been, you 90 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:45,360 know, seen in in IR engagement or another incident that they're 91 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,320 aware of. So that's something you should 92 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,240 definitely pay attention to. I encourage you to go read our 93 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,400 story as well as the the Microsoft advisories themselves. 94 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:00,000 They, you know, the Microsoft bulletins over time have giving 95 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,840 you less and less information about what's actually going on. 96 00:06:04,280 --> 00:06:09,200 You will get the indication that something has been exploited and 97 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,480 that Microsoft is aware of the exploitation, but you don't 98 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,320 really get any more context in that. 99 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,400 You essentially have to go and look at third party resources to 100 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,560 go and find that out. Find out what the context is, 101 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,880 how it's been used, how often it's been used, in what ways, 102 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,000 against what kind of targets. You know, in some cases, I'd say 103 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:36,000 in a lot of cases, the exploitation that's detected in 104 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,440 these in these cases is usually targeted. 105 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,800 You, you will often see them say, you know, very limited 106 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,760 cases or highly targeted or some kind of language like that, that 107 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,400 gives you an indication that these were used in possibly just 108 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,600 one or maybe just a handful of targeted attacks against 109 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,840 specific victims. So, you know, that's not 110 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:06,200 nothing, but it does give you some indication that, OK, this 111 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,640 is not mass exploitation. It's not being used by, you 112 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,920 know, every cybercrime group on Earth. 113 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,080 It's not, you know, thrown into some exploit kit yet. 114 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,840 So you may have a little time there. 115 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,320 But you know, in any case, you want to pay attention to any 116 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,080 exploited vulnerabilities in the wild from Microsoft. 117 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:31,800 So along those same lines, Apple released all their semi regular 118 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,520 security updates this week as well. 119 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:40,120 They patched dozens of vulnerabilities in Mac OS, iOS, 120 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,720 Watch OS, the iPad OS, all the various OSS. 121 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:51,640 And the one vulnerability that sticks out there is one that has 122 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,760 been exploited in the wild. Also in what you know, Apple 123 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,040 describes as an extremely sophisticated attack in scare 124 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:06,840 quotes there against specific targeted individuals, plural, on 125 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,320 versions of iOS before 26. OK, so the new version that just 126 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,840 came out is 26.3, you know, a a point release, but a pretty 127 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,800 major one in terms of security content. 128 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,760 This specific vulnerability has been in iOS for a very long 129 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,600 time. So it's in many, many versions 130 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,040 of iOS. Most people I think are, you 131 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,480 know, you would not unless you have like an old phone that 132 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,159 you're using for some specific task or whatever, an old iPad 133 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:38,720 that you're keeping alive for whatever reason. 134 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,919 Most people are on relatively modern versions of iOS. 135 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:45,160 You're not worried about how long it's been there, but the 136 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,760 point is that this has been used in targeted attacks. 137 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,160 It sounds like you know a relatively small number of them, 138 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:58,400 but when Apple discloses these, this kind of exploitation, a 139 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,040 lot, I would say I don't know. Probably most of the time these 140 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,600 bugs are ones that have been seen by threat intelligence 141 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:13,520 groups used in targeted attacks by the commercial spy Ware 142 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,600 vendors. So think about the the vendors 143 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,280 that sell, you know, something like, you know, the commercial 144 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,200 spy Ware that's used against activists, journalists, 145 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:31,160 dissidents, all those types of groups that are typically at 146 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,680 risk from commercial spy Ware vendors and their customers. 147 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:42,600 A lot of times these especially iOS bugs that you see termed 148 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,280 extremely sophisticated, used in extremely sophisticated attacks. 149 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:53,280 That's where they're identified. Those are the highly complex. 150 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,800 And yeah, I mean, the word sophisticated is beaten into the 151 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,360 ground in this industry. But in some cases, it's 152 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:04,200 apartment, these kind of exploit chains that take, you know, a 153 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,680 lot of time, a lot of development resources, resources 154 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,800 and a ton of money to develop. Those are the ones that end up 155 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,240 as zero days in these commercial spyware products that are used 156 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:20,200 to target, you know, the groups I mentioned, journalist 157 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,880 dissidents at risk groups around the world. 158 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,040 So if you want more information on how that whole ecosystem 159 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:32,160 works, you should go look at the work that the Citizen Lab does 160 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,720 up in Canada. They are the preeminent research 161 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,480 group that is tracking the way that the commercial spyware 162 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,480 ecosystem works and the kind of vulnerabilities that they're 163 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,360 they're developing and putting into their products. 164 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,320 It's a really, we've talked about it before on this podcast. 165 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:57,760 It's a really concerning and kind of gross ecosystem, even on 166 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,280 the surface. The farther you dig into it, the 167 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:02,280 the worse you will feel about the world. 168 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:06,040 So I don't know if you want to do that on a, you know, on a 169 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:12,520 bleak winter day, but those are the kinds of bugs, this these 170 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,960 kind of Apple iOS bugs and sometimes Android bugs that are 171 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,720 extremely valuable to those types of groups. 172 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:26,440 And in this case, this bug was reported to Apple by Google's 173 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,560 threat analysis group. That group is the team at Google 174 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:37,760 that specifically tracks advanced threat actors, and that 175 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,680 word advanced is doing a lot of work there. 176 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:48,800 But what they're trying to do is keep an eye on the top level 177 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,240 threat actors out there. You can think about APT teams, 178 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:58,920 state backed groups, state aligned groups, and the people 179 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,000 that are using commercial spyware products. 180 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,720 So that gives you another indication, some more context 181 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,600 around where this this bug came from. 182 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,960 So that's that's another one you want to dig into. 183 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:17,200 If your organization, you know, deploys iOS devices, Mac OS 184 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,800 devices, that bug was also in Mac OS, but it has not been 185 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:27,760 exploited against Mac OS as far as Apple, you know, has has said 186 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,600 it's only been exploited against iOS. 187 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,400 So that gives you a little more context, but it's this 188 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,040 definitely seems like like one of those point updates that you 189 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,080 want to you want to install as soon as possible, especially on 190 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,440 iOS devices. So let's pivot a little bit to 191 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,040 something, you know, a little different. 192 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,360 If you listen to this podcast regularly, you know that we, me 193 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,680 specifically love movies and TV shows, especially ones that have 194 00:12:57,680 --> 00:12:59,120 something to do with the hacker scene. 195 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,040 Depending on your age, you might be aware of a show called CSI 196 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Cyber. That was around about 10 years 197 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,680 ago. And I bring this up because one 198 00:13:12,680 --> 00:13:15,640 of the actors in that that show, James Van Der Beek, passed away 199 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,320 this week, you know, very sad in a battle with cancer. 200 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,840 And I was, he was, you know, obviously well known for 201 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,680 Dawson's Creek. I didn't, I never watched that 202 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:27,440 show. But you know, he's been in a 203 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,040 bunch of movies. Varsity Blues, probably the most 204 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,160 famous one, but he was in the show CSI Cyber, which was a a 205 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,480 spin off from the normal CSI mothership. 206 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:44,480 And when the show came out, I was at threat post with a bunch 207 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,040 of my friends and we decided to watch the first episode of the 208 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,960 show, which I think came out in 2015. 209 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,240 And we did like this running diary. 210 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,480 It was four of us that basically we kept a chat log of how how 211 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,160 this show went and how silly it was. 212 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,120 I'll try and find it and post it. 213 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,440 It's it's pretty entertaining. I have to say. 214 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,760 The show came on at 10:00 on like a Thursday night. 215 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,520 So we, it was just four of us like up late watching this 216 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,840 goofiness and, you know, talking about it. 217 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,680 But the real reason I bring this up is because there's two, 218 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:25,200 there's an episode of season 2 called Gone in Six Seconds that 219 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,480 aired in November of 2015. And two of my friends, Charlie 220 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,800 Miller and Chris Valasek, who are, you know, very well known 221 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,400 security researchers, obviously most well known for their 222 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:42,400 research against against on cars, you know, automotive 223 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,880 security systems. They've both done tons and tons 224 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,040 of other stuff in their careers. Go look at Charlie's Apple 225 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,080 security research. He was a pioneer in that in that 226 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,640 world. Chris has done all kinds of 227 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,800 crazy stuff too. But they had a cameo on this 228 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,000 episode called Gone in Six Seconds that, you know, had a 229 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,280 car hacking storyline. And it was kind of a big deal in 230 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,880 the security community when this happened. 231 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,960 Like Charlie and Chris were posting, you know, photos from 232 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,920 the the set with some of the actors. 233 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,640 I don't remember one with Van der Beek specifically. 234 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:27,000 I do remember one with Shad Moss or one of the other actors. 235 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,760 I'll try and find that as well. But it's a pretty entertaining. 236 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,720 They they have a very small cameo, but if you know those 237 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,240 guys, you can see them in the background. 238 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,240 You can kind of see the sardonic smiles on their faces. 239 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,400 It's I don't know where you'd be able to find it at this point. 240 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,360 I think it might be on Amazon, but you might have to pay to go 241 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,920 watch this. It would probably be worth it. 242 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,640 You might be able to find a just that clip on YouTube somewhere. 243 00:15:54,120 --> 00:16:00,400 But CSI cyber is an artifact from a time when the movie and 244 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,000 TV industry was sort of, you know, obviously there's been 245 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,080 like hacker movies like hackers and sneakers and whatever. 246 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,640 But this was a time when they were trying to sort of weave 247 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:20,720 cybersecurity and hacking into other shows in this very odd and 248 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,960 often like completely ridiculous way. 249 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,280 Especially. I mean, I don't know that I ever 250 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,280 watched more than two. I watched the first episode of 251 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,520 the show and I watched the one that Charlie and Chris Chris 252 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,600 were on just because I know those guys and it was funny. 253 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,440 I don't think I ever watched any more episodes of it. 254 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,960 It was only on for two seasons, but it was pretty funny in the 255 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,920 premiere. I think they it centers on 256 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,600 somebody hacking a baby monitor, which is a thing that happened. 257 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,680 Like there's been research on those. 258 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,160 It's kind of silly at this point, but that's what the 259 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,760 premier centered on or at least part of it. 260 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,080 So it's pretty entertaining. If you are looking for something 261 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,079 completely ridiculous and fun to watch at some point, dig into 262 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:07,359 some CSI Cyber. You don't really need to know 263 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,920 any of the storylines or anything, but if you can find 264 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,839 that episode, it's gone in six seconds. 265 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:19,160 It aired on November 8th, 2015 and you will have a good time. 266 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,520 I promise you, you'll you'll get a few laughs out of it. 267 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:26,599 So that was just the random pop culture corner for this week. 268 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:30,160 So hope that brought you a little little fun. 269 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,360 So thanks everybody for listening and I'll talk to you 270 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:37,800 again next week and keep an eye out for the Tar Wars hacker 271 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,560 episode. That'll be U soon. 272 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:40,440 Take care.