1 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,280 On this episode of Queen's Video, we discussed The 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,040 Shawshank Redemption. We also review Superman, 3 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:15,720 Fantastic Four First Steps, caught Stealing, I Saw the TV 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,880 Glow, The Long Walk, TIFF 2025 and weapons. 5 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:38,640 OK Queens video. Queens Video does whatever video 6 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,720 can television. Yes you can. 7 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:48,760 It's Queens video, look up. Here comes the Queens video. 8 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,560 Welcome to Queen's video. I'm Carl Swanson. 9 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,280 I'm Brian Griffin. And we haven't done this for 10 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,400 like 2 months. That's not true though, is it 11 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,400 Carl? Because we just did it but 12 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,080 failed to record it and we're just re recording the same thing 13 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,920 again. Listen, it's not as bad as our 14 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,080 entire Lost episode about In the Mood for Love, which one of 15 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,120 these days I swear to God. Mysterious and elusive. 16 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,720 We are going to re record the In the Mood for Love episode. 17 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,880 It's going to be like a a special Queen's video thing. 18 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,720 But yeah, in the meantime, you know, we'll just keep on 19 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,360 trucking here. We got a. 20 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,200 Lot yeah, we got a real polished episode for you guys tonight 21 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,560 because we're we've we've had a practice run at it. 22 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:33,480 Because we're recording now, but I was going to say like, no, 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,040 because we've had so many guests, we haven't actually had 24 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,040 a chance to just have it be the two of us talking about movies 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,480 that we've seen lately. Carl, I need to catch up with 26 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,840 you, buddy. I know. 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,840 How have you been, Brian? How was your summer? 28 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,960 You know what blast of a summer and great movies this summer? 29 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,400 So yeah, what have you seen this summer, actually tell us about? 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,280 Tell us about the big ones. Have you seen any blockbusters? 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,720 There were two. There happened to be big movies 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,600 that came out this summer that I liked them. 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:00,920 I liked them. They were fine. 34 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,080 Superman directed by James Gunn. James Gunn is a director I I'm 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,200 obsessed with. I love him. 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,640 He's terrific. This is definitely his most 37 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:15,760 mainstream movie ever. It's it's like more mainstream 38 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,840 than Guardians of the Galaxy. Right, right. 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,080 It's a little bit more straightforward, yeah. 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,760 I don't like it for him, to be honest with you. 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:22,840 Really. Yeah. 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:24,720 But that said, it's a very good movie. 43 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,400 It's competent, it's great. It's now who is Superman? 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,440 Superb man is who plays him and he's some British guy. 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,800 He's very handsome. What is his name? 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,720 I just know, OK, Rachel Brosnahan is in it. 47 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,680 Rachel. She plays Lois Lane and I love 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,240 Rachel Brosnahan. Yeah, yeah. 49 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,200 And Lex Luthor is played by our man, what's his name? 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,240 Nicholas Holt. Jesus, that's twice, you would 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,560 think. In the second time I would get 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,080 that. Sorry. 53 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,840 Nicholas Holt. I love. 54 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,840 Nicholas Holt. I love about a boy. 55 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:55,840 Yeah, which he was in when he was a little kid. 56 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,040 Classic. Hugh Grant and Tarni Collett. 57 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,200 Yeah, Tarni Collett, I forgot about that. 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,560 Yeah. But yeah, like, ever since he 59 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,280 was in that, I've just, like, watched him grow and, you know, 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,640 like, like get better and better. 61 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:09,280 He's in a lot of good movies, like he's in Mad Max, He was in 62 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,160 those The Good X Men's. Yeah, he's in a a bunch of great 63 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,880 stuff. Yeah, he always, and it seems 64 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,480 like he's just nice to work with. 65 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:18,440 Yeah, yeah. And he has a nice little steady, 66 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,640 like he's not always the main character, but he's always good 67 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:23,360 support. But he's inching like he's 68 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,800 getting main character roles. He's becoming the main guy more 69 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,480 and more, which is terrific. Love it. 70 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,240 Love to see him. But I All in all, like, what 71 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,440 would you say? How would you say you felt about 72 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,000 the movie? How is this for a it's superhero 73 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,280 movie? It's like a 3 1/2 star movie. 74 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,120 I mean, it, it's not to me, it's not really doing anything new. 75 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,640 It's a bit too goofy for my taste. 76 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,840 I like the more serious Superman. 77 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,800 I like a serious superhero movie. 78 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,320 I like The Dark Knight. I like Christopher Nolan. 79 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,360 So I I kind of just prefer the Zack Snyder ones. 80 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,640 Well, I was gonna say, you like those, Zack Snyder. 81 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,600 I know I'm in the minority, don't don't fucking clue out of 82 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,920 the podcast just yet. I understand I'm wrong, but I do 83 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,120 you love. A podcast. 84 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Your voice is important on the subject. 85 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,720 I know, but it, it, it's just generally people don't love Zack 86 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,840 Snyder and I, I just do like the superhero. 87 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,200 I, I, I think he does a good job, but that's my personal 88 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,519 taste. But. 89 00:04:16,519 --> 00:04:19,000 It's still a good movie. That was ADC movie though. 90 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,880 Did you see the big Marvel tentpole? 91 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,880 Yeah, Marvel released a very beautiful looking tempo movie 92 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,160 called Fantastic Four. Star-studded stacked cast. 93 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,520 Yeah, Pedro Pascal. Really. 94 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,400 Good. Pedro Pascal. 95 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,480 Vanessa Kirby. The Human Torch and then but the 96 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,400 The thing is Evan Moss Bacharach, yes, who I love. 97 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,440 Yeah, yeah. He's he's the bear. 98 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,160 He's you know, he was in Andor. He's always just such a he's 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,520 such a sad sack. But you're just like, you know, 100 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,680 you you like I and I don't know if that still comes through 101 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,680 under all the thing makeup, but like as an actor, he has this 102 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,720 way of just breaking your heart. Yeah, with words. 103 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,120 So like the did that come through in the Fantastic Four? 104 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,760 Yeah, maybe. I I know I really had a hard 105 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:10,080 time connecting with the characters in general and there 106 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,760 was a real emphasis to make this a character focused movie, but I 107 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,880 didn't feel it. I don't think the efforts paid 108 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,480 off to the extent that they were hoping for. 109 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,480 To me, I thought this was a poor man's Incredibles. 110 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,600 So Incredibles one and two, there are Pixar movies. 111 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,600 I I love those. It's already been done. 112 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,440 I'm sorry. Maybe don't need to make a 113 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,040 Fantastic Four movie then. Do you think that that's it? 114 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,720 Like because The Incredibles has done Fantastic Four now better 115 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:45,320 than at least two Fantastic Four previous attempts have been? 116 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,240 Because of course this is the third time we've been trying 117 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,520 Fantastic Four film franchise in our lifetimes. 118 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,680 There was the original Fox 1 with, you know, like Jessica 119 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,120 Alba way back when, and then the like Kate Mara one from OH. 120 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,440 You know your movies by invisible women? 121 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,400 That's fascinating. Well, yeah. 122 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Invisible and and. Invisible. 123 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:07,800 Yeah. Debris. 124 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,800 Bardo. Yeah. 125 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,080 Invisible. Any fans of Arrested Development 126 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,560 out there will hoot and holler for that. 127 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,040 But yeah, no. And you're right, Carl, because 128 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:22,880 this movie is trying to be like even visually and design wise 129 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,480 with the 1960s, 60s like inspired, that is like I feel 130 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,960 like that is inspired by the Incredibles 2. 131 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,640 Like they were like, let's take from that a little bit and maybe 132 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,200 expanded. Yeah, or. 133 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,720 It has that vibe. It is like like a 1960s cartoon 134 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,440 in an interesting way. But again, like you said, The 135 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,280 Incredibles was already doing it well. 136 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:44,040 Much better than yeah, unfortunately, but, you know, 137 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,040 not a bad movie. I both movies have their 138 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,840 failings. I give them I give this one 139 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:49,840 three stars. OK, For what it's worth, I 140 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:51,800 don't. Know well did you see any good 141 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,120 movies this summer? Yes, I saw Caught Stealing, 142 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,240 which is the new Darren Aronofsky movie that no one went 143 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,280 to see. Darren Aronofsky, he's, you 144 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:03,520 know, he sounds good. I think he's got a big future 145 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,280 ahead of him that. That kid, yeah. 146 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,760 Darren Aronofsky is Requiem for a Dream, right? 147 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:13,600 Requiem for a dream pie. Mother No, Mother. 148 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,440 Mother Noah. The fountain. 149 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,560 Oh, and the the most previous one, the whale. 150 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,160 That was great. Very. 151 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,560 I never actually. Saw the whale man. 152 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,480 It's very inaccessible and and so that's fascinating that he 153 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,280 goes from the whale to caught stealing. 154 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,760 This is his most accessible movie today. 155 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,880 What's it about? So it's set in the 1990s. 156 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,080 You're asking like, what's it about? 157 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,000 We've already done this, Carl, you know what it's about. 158 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,240 I already told you. Yes, but as we've established 159 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,360 the audience. Didn't get that. 160 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,080 I I know I know it just it feels weird. 161 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:50,040 But anyways, God stealing. It's set in the 1990s It's 162 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,040 awesome Butler. The class is stacked. 163 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Zoe Kravitz is in it Awesome Butler who is sister Knight from 164 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,040 Watchmen. She's terrific. 165 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,680 Oh God, tip of my tongue. She's the one from the leftover. 166 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,920 She's yes, yes. Tell you what, keep talking 167 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,120 about the movie. I'm going to bring up her. 168 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,520 Name OK, Vincent D'onofrio was in it. 169 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:15,280 Just stack cast. Austin Butler is just an 170 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,720 everyman. Regina King. 171 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,640 Regina King. Shout out to Regina King. 172 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,600 Love you, Regina King. She's actually in a lot of 173 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,320 really good movies lately. She's in over the summer. 174 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,120 Look it up. She's in a bunch of just, like, 175 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,720 fucking excellent movies. Good for her. 176 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,720 Yeah, she's doing well. He's it's set in the 1990s in 177 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,320 New York and he's just get swept up in crime Like it's, it's, 178 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,039 it's, it's a crime thriller in a way, but it's, it's more fun 179 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:41,200 than that. And. 180 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,000 Fun is not usually an adjective I hear attached to Darren 181 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,080 Aronofsky movies like he's a he's a depressing guy. 182 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,120 Yeah, it's a big stretch. It's A and it's it's, it works. 183 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,280 I think it works really well. Now reviews that I read for this 184 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,280 that gave a kind of low end reviews, like maybe I would say 185 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,880 some reviews like 3 stars, I would have given it more. 186 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,960 But there is a weird, weird dark thing that happens kind of in 187 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,760 the middle of this movie that kind of turns people off. 188 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,080 It's OK. It's a real bait and switch kind 189 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,680 of situation for the movie and sends it on a, on a on a more 190 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:16,880 interesting path. But like I'll say I found that 191 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,320 interesting. I found that the choices to be 192 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,760 very interesting. There's a couple of twists and 193 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,440 turns in this. I just love he he he has a cat 194 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,840 that he fucking hates at the start of the movie that he falls 195 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,120 in love with that he fucking ends up risking everything for 196 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,160 at the end and they're just, they just run away together. 197 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,760 It's just such a beautiful that that is beautiful. 198 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,000 Nice. Umm it's, it's a phenomenal 199 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,400 movie. There's a lot to think about. 200 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,280 To me, I was watching and I was like this. 201 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,680 I feel like this movie, the way I saw, I felt when I saw the 202 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:48,480 original the matrix, like I feel like I'm relating to everything. 203 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,520 I really understand, like I feel like it's speaking to me. 204 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,400 I feel like it's about like it's about something to it's, it's a 205 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,200 really strong visual movie as well. 206 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,040 You know, the way The Matrix is very unusual and interesting, 207 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,640 like cinematography, design. This movie kind of has a lot of 208 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:05,920 that going on too. Neat. 209 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,440 Yeah. Neat is the word. 210 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:08,080 Yeah. Yeah. 211 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,200 So love that. Highly recommend for all to see. 212 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,200 The Matrix, like it is an interesting comparison because I 213 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,680 feel like you're that when when I compare something to the 214 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:25,880 Matrix, I'm usually comparing it for the way that it, it does 215 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,960 something new. You know what I mean? 216 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,320 Yeah. Like it's the movies feel like 217 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,840 the Matrix, when watching them feels like you are seeing 218 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,440 something that has not been done before. 219 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,480 Yeah, you know, or something that is pushing, pushing an 220 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,560 envelope in a way that you don't usually get. 221 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,160 Well, that's true, Carl. One thing about the Matrix 222 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,200 though, that's not really pushing an envelope, but just 223 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,680 doing it excellently is just the story frame, the frame itself of 224 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:59,120 like just like I know it's it's probably not good really when 225 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,840 we, when we digested this way, but like the idea of a Messiah, 226 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,000 you know what, like a Messiah character coming into themselves 227 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,760 or whatever, you know, the hero's journey is so well done 228 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,240 in the Matrix. It's not really like doing it 229 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,240 doesn't deviate from the hero's journey. 230 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,920 It actually sticks to the hero's journey. 231 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,040 But the way it does that narratively is very inventive 232 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,400 and very interesting. And it was very modern at the 233 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,680 time. So yeah, I I know what you mean. 234 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:27,360 But that that's kind of how I feel. 235 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,880 I see Caught Stealing as like a very good adaptation of the 236 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Hero's journey with some very good camera work. 237 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,080 Yeah, nice. Yeah, Well, sorry. 238 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,320 And you brought up The Matrix, which is, of course, Oh yeah. 239 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,680 Beyond being a good movie, it is an excellent trans allegory. 240 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:44,960 Yes. Now, Speaking of excellent trans 241 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,680 allegories, Brian. That would have been more 242 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:48,920 seamless if I hadn't like, fucking interrupted you audio. 243 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,360 No, no, sorry, you got it. But I will say so I finally 244 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,960 watched 2024 is I saw the TV, yes. 245 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,120 I saw that. Sorry, I saw, I saw, I saw the 246 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,800 TV glow. No, I I saw shit. 247 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:10,640 I, I watched I saw the TV glow over the summer, which was a 248 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,840 movie that had been on my list to watch for a long time. 249 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,520 I had heard very good things about it. 250 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,400 I had heard very like, you know, that it has some kind of deep 251 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:26,680 trans queer themes. The movie itself is set in kind 252 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:30,360 of like the, you know, turn of the 20th turn of the 21st 253 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:36,960 century suburban America stars 2 characters. 1 is a like a it 254 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,080 starts out and they're in middle school and 1 is like a like a 255 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,000 grade 6 black guy. And the other is a little bit 256 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,920 older and she's a she's a white girl. 257 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:53,360 And they become they bond as friends over this late night TV 258 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,520 show called the pink opaque that they're watching. 259 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:04,000 And it just feels like this discovery that they've made and 260 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,560 the secret that they have and this like friendship that that 261 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,960 they, you know, like have kind of underground. 262 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,200 And as the movie goes on, they get older and their relation, 263 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,480 they're they're like friendships change and their home lives 264 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,920 change. But then as the movie progresses 265 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:25,120 as well, their lives start, the lines start to blur between the 266 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,160 their lives and the story of the pink opaque. 267 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,560 And then as they get older, they're, you know, they have to 268 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:37,880 start to make decisions about, you know, like, like, will they 269 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,640 stay friends? And will they will they save 270 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,040 each other? And will they, you know, kind of 271 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:48,000 make this break from the lives that they have into the the 272 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,040 fictional life of the TV show that they love. 273 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,400 And this is kind of, I'm not describing it particularly well, 274 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,720 but that's mostly because I just want everybody to go see this 275 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,840 movie. It's a weird one. 276 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,680 Yeah, I think the way you're describing it is the only way 277 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,520 you can describe it. Yeah, and it ends very 278 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,320 tragically. And like it, it it's got this 279 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,240 great kick in the gut ending where it's just like the the, 280 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:16,200 the, the theme of the movie is like be yourself, believe in 281 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,200 yourself, be, you know, like live your own truth because if 282 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,760 you don't, it will destroy your life, right. 283 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:27,440 And so it's very like, like the director whose name I will bring 284 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,520 up right now, Jane Schoenbren, she's a trans director. 285 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,600 And this story, you know, like, obviously feels very personal to 286 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,520 her. The actors, the leads are 287 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:45,000 Justice Smith and Jack Haven, and they're incredible. 288 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,640 They just get like, so much empathy for, like, what they're 289 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,600 going through. And then also like the other 290 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,040 reason why I love it beyond that, it's like really good and 291 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,560 queer and everything. And also kind of about, I guess 292 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,120 a time that I lived in myself, you know, like it's about it's 293 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,000 about what it was like to grow up in the 90s and the 2000s and 294 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,240 have still access to like secret media, you know, and late night 295 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,680 things that then like get ported onto ported onto streaming and 296 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,680 you can binge the whole thing and you realize it's not as good 297 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,400 as you thought it was. But then it also takes very 298 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,920 heavily from David Lynch. Yeah. 299 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,160 Like, it is a very Lynchian movie, right? 300 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,280 You know, from the, the kind of parallel world and vague threats 301 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,400 and the tone of like being, you know, alone in the dark at 302 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,200 night. Two kind of like mixed media 303 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,840 things like the, the, you know, I saw the TV globe. 304 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,960 They do a lot of kind of cuts from film grain to like, you 305 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,680 know, a TV cathode ray tube kind of thing. 306 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,440 And so there's all these, like, weird textures and effects and 307 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,280 stuff. Yeah. 308 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,560 Drives heavily from David Lynch. Excellent movie. 309 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,760 Yeah, it's a cool one. Very, very Moody and very sad 310 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,560 and tragic. But you never know where the 311 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,520 lines are between reality and fiction. 312 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,840 I think that's why you could categorize this as a horror 313 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,640 movie, because where those lines are blurred is like sheer 314 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:07,840 terror. Like, Absolutely. 315 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,360 And then to your point, like that ending is like, just soul 316 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,600 destroying and waiting. Yeah. 317 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,840 Devastating, you know, like, and you're watching it, you know, if 318 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,880 you're watching it as an out gay man, yeah, you watch that and 319 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,480 you're just like, thank God. Yeah, like, thank, thank God I 320 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,720 came out. Thank God I did, you know, Thank 321 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,280 God I, I, I live my. Life. 322 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,240 But no. Be fair, Carl. 323 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,640 Let's hear from the audience who are in the closet. 324 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,320 Gay men Write into us at Queen's video and tell us if what you 325 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,160 thought of the ending. Yeah. 326 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,400 Absolutely. If you are, if you are, if 327 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,120 you're trans and you're having trouble because the world is 328 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,880 fucking awful for trans people right now, we would love to hear 329 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,800 what you thought about I Saw the TV. 330 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:45,680 Glow. Absolutely. 331 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,480 My final. Is for you, yeah. 332 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,320 My final point about the movie too is I watch watched it in the 333 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,120 perfect medium and the medium that I watched it in was I was 334 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,480 babysitting our niece. It was the middle of the night 335 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,800 and I was alone in my brother and sister in law's apartment 336 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,800 and I had all the lights turned off to keep it dark for her and 337 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,720 I had the sound turned down really low and it was the SO. 338 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:09,200 It's a secret. You're like, I have to watch 339 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,920 this secretly. It was it was it like it's the 340 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,000 exact same way that they're watching the Pinko pay. 341 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,400 I watched. I saw the. 342 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,280 TV club. So yeah, that's a good one. 343 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,480 Fantastic movie. That's a good one, Carl. 344 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,040 That came out like a year ago though. 345 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Brian, have you seen any movies that have come out more 346 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,119 recently? Though yeah, most recently, a 347 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,240 good one that came out as well is Stephen King's A Long Walk. 348 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,400 This is Stephen. King never heard of him. 349 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,280 This is this is a great movie and this is another one that 350 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,120 kind of flew under the radar, which is frustrating. 351 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,560 I wasn't expecting it to be as good as it was. 352 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,880 It's AB movie for sure. Oh, yeah. 353 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,120 It wears, it's be, it's very, it's violent. 354 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:48,560 It doesn't shy away from violence. 355 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,720 And it's about a long walk. There's a particularly long 356 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,680 walk. Let me let me tell you about it. 357 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:59,800 So the the protagonist of this story, there's a group of kids, 358 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,680 boys who've all won a lottery. So this is very Shirley Jackson. 359 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,560 Stephen King's very inspired by Shirley Jackson. 360 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,800 Oh yeah Yeah is his favorite author, so. 361 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,840 Cool, I've never thought about that, but that makes a lot of. 362 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,520 Sense yeah, yeah, yeah. And this one in particular is 363 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,760 this this actually is the based on the first short story Stephen 364 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,120 King ever wrote really, or had published I guess but yeah, cool 365 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,560 yeah. So it's very green effort and it 366 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,400 shows, but the energy is phenomenal. 367 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,880 I think it, I think staying true to that is what the film makers 368 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,880 have planned for. And it works. 369 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:36,840 It's set like in a like a totalitarian 1970s America in 370 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,800 military run. People are very poor. 371 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,880 These kids win the lottery. Their objective is their, their, 372 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,600 their, their prizes. They get to walk across, they 373 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,400 get to compete to walk across the United States. 374 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,160 But if they slow down a certain pace, they're shot to death. 375 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,400 They get like a certain amount of warnings and the third 376 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,880 warning they get shot. So these characters are 377 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,560 basically competing for their lives. 378 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,440 The winner gets a a chunk of money or whatever. 379 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,240 They also get a wish granted that that's a. 380 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:10,240 That's a fun little plot to. Us, but OK, fine. 381 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:14,920 Anyways, it's the core of the movie is really like a 382 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,200 friendship that blossoms while they're in this, while they're 383 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,160 competing, these two boys get to know each other and they become 384 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,320 good friends even though they're competing and they help each 385 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,920 other out. And it's kind of touching and 386 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,840 beautiful and, and the competition is like showing 387 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,200 humanity at its worst, but also humanity at its best. 388 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,160 And in that way, it's actually like there's some real 389 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:43,120 philosophical moments. I would say it's B movie, but it 390 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,240 wears, it's an elevated B movie. It really does a lot with a 391 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,520 little and it's quite a gorgeous movie. 392 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,120 That's kind of Stephen King in a nut show. 393 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:56,040 Yeah, he always. He can kind of have corny 394 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,960 concepts, but they're always. He minds them for for for like 395 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,600 detail, gleaning character details. 396 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,920 And now is this like, you know, I also feel like Stephen King, 397 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,920 you have an idea that he's more of a horror author. 398 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,840 Yeah. But this isn't really one of 399 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,360 his, like, horror works. I don't know. 400 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:20,800 I don't know, yeah, it, it feels a bit more like 70s grit than 401 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,840 than than straight up horror. But there are horror elements, I 402 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,120 think. Like there's a character played 403 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:32,080 by Mark Hamill who's like. Wait, Mark Hamill is in this? 404 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,880 Yes, yeah, good. For Mark Hamill. 405 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,760 Yeah, yeah, it's terrific. He's terrific in it. 406 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,800 He's the villain, basically. But there are moments where 407 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,680 like, he's horrific. He's he's quite a he casts a 408 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:49,120 large shadow over the movie. Yeah, I it's, it's a really good 409 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:50,320 movie. I really recommended. 410 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,240 I don't have much to say beyond that. 411 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,880 Well, I'll go watch that. I mean, that one sounds good. 412 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,080 I mean, you, you had mentioned before that it was like it's 413 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,560 been out for about a month already, so it might not have 414 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,240 long left, but. It's not going to be in theaters 415 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,640 but but watch it anyway you can. It's it's a great one. 416 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,400 Yeah, I mean, I will. We'll talk later about Stephen 417 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,640 King, but Stephen. Yeah. 418 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,960 Yeah, he makes a good movie, or at the very least he writes a 419 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,480 good story and everybody, like, loves adapting them. 420 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,520 And I mean, like, like they're not always, it's not always an 421 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,960 evil clown or, you know, haunted hotel that drives people crazy 422 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,840 or whatever. Like sometimes it is intensive 423 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,920 stuff, you know? Like he likes to dwell on a a a, 424 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,400 you know, an idea. He writes a lot, Carl. 425 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,880 And you know, he throws the net wide. 426 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,520 It's strange. He has like like crime, he has 427 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,680 like Western fiction. He has like all these sub genres 428 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,680 that he writes on. It's very impressive. 429 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,680 Good for Steven. Yeah, I, you know, I think he's 430 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,920 going to go far. Carl, am I right in saying you 431 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,600 attended some manner of festival recently? 432 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,360 That's right, Brian, we at Queens Video love going to the 433 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:08,160 Toronto International Film Festival and yeah, Ian and I 434 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,880 finally got our membership to the to TIF this year and we were 435 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,000 like devastated because it didn't pay off the way that we 436 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,720 wanted it to. We had all these grand plans of 437 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,760 being like, Oh, well, we're going to go see Frankenstein. 438 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,240 We're going to go see the John Candy movie or the the Lilith 439 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,680 Fair documentary. And I will say buying tickets 440 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,520 for TIF this year was an absolute nightmare. 441 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,320 Like they're all, they're like, it's all Ticketmaster. 442 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,240 So like red. And then yeah, like, I guess all 443 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,080 of the good tickets get released already. 444 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,640 All the other ones get nabbed up by scammers and and bots and 445 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,920 shit. So we like, didn't. 446 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,440 Yeah, we, we. We'll be seeing Frankenstein 447 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,560 later, which you and I and Ian already have tickets for it. 448 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,000 Fucking amps from. Yeah, but we didn't get to see 449 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,160 it during TIFF. We did see three other movies. 450 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,680 The movies that we saw first one was an Italian film called Duje. 451 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,120 It's about Elianora Duje, who was a turn of the 20th century 452 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,400 Italian actor. And so the movie is kind of 453 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,680 about her later in life as at the end of World War One and 454 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,040 then the rise of fascism in Italy and her like, you know, 455 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,840 attempts to get back into theater and stuff and and, you 456 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,680 know, keep her star power going in the midst of a changing, you 457 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,280 know, Europe and Italy and stuff. 458 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,840 And like, Mussolini is in it. And, you know, I don't know if I 459 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,720 like that Mussolini guy. He seems like a bit of an 460 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,520 asshole. Hear him out. 461 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,600 Carl Well, that was, you know, Mid Duje had the opportunity to 462 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,400 do that. But yeah, it's it's it was it 463 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,760 was good. It was certainly very like 464 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,160 sumptuous, very like shot on location, a lot of Venice, a lot 465 00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:02,080 of beautiful theaters and stuff. And the lead actor, Valeria 466 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:07,560 Tedeschi, was excellent as Duje. But otherwise, yeah, it was it 467 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,160 was good. It never really never really 468 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,120 sunk its teeth into any of the themes that it was talking 469 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:13,920 about. That's kind of all I have to say 470 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,200 about that one. The second one that we saw was a 471 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,920 movie called For Astera. It's a story of kind of these 472 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:26,320 two sisters who are on vacation in Spain in the Balearic Islands 473 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,320 when they're with their grandparents, when their 474 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,800 grandmother dies. So it's all kind of, it's a 475 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:38,200 very, you know, sad movie about like grief and, and stuff, but 476 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,960 through the eyes of teenagers. So it kind of, you know, it's 477 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:46,000 about how everyone deals with grief differently and it was 478 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,960 beautiful. It kind of a little slow and and 479 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,560 and boring at times, but I mean sometimes you want that from a 480 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,920 Film Festival movie. What you pay your money for? 481 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,160 Yeah, to be bored and have your ass sore. 482 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,560 Well, and you know, and just to watch something that you 483 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,280 wouldn't see. Otherwise, that's exactly it, 484 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,760 you know? Yeah. 485 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,920 And, and like, I would never, I wouldn't say either of those 486 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,560 movies were bad or good or anything. 487 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,040 I'd say the the the enjoyment of the whole thing was seeing 488 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,800 something that, yeah, you wouldn't get you. 489 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,800 Wouldn't have the opportunity to see that on like a, on a Disney 490 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,600 Plus or a Netflix or whatever. Yeah, that's what's beautiful 491 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,320 about the about the. TIFF Yeah, exactly. 492 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,280 The last movie though, that we saw was a documentary called Red 493 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,240 Power Rising. That was a. 494 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,920 Red power rising. Well, yeah, it's about this 495 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,920 Indigenous like uprising, I guess you would say, like it was 496 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,800 about. No. 497 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,760 Then we do like that. Sorry. 498 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,360 Yes, very good. It's a Canadian documentary 499 00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:51,400 about a like First Nations occupation of a park in Kenora 500 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,000 in the 70s that lasted for quite some time and kind of the, the 501 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,320 knock on effects that that had then on, you know, kind of First 502 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,920 Nations political engagement and, and stuff in Canada. 503 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,320 And like the late 20th century. The subjects of the documentary 504 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,000 were all kind of the, the people that were involved in it. 505 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,680 And then like the, the, you know, children and, and people 506 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,200 around the community of the, the ones that then were, you know, 507 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,040 involved in the, in the uprising. 508 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,440 And it was very good. Like just a really, really good, 509 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,960 really heartbreaking documentary about like, you know, 510 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,280 residential schools and, and generational trauma and all 511 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280 this, this horrible, you know, facts of life about, you know, 512 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,840 First Nations life in Canada. But all but seeing through a 513 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,080 very triumphant lens, you know, in this, this, and they came 514 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,160 together and they, you know, they, they, they, you know, 515 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,800 achieved this, this kind of solidarity and these goals and 516 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,840 brought their movement to to Ottawa. 517 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,400 So yeah. We're lucky, we're lucky we can 518 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,000 experience a story through that lens because the alternative is 519 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,680 looking at it and, and, and there not have been any change 520 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,280 or movement and just feeling like this is going to happen 521 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,040 over and over again, right. And, and, you know, it was 522 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,920 really cool to see it at TIFF where they had, you know, like 523 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,720 elders and, and, and the producers and everybody there. 524 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,000 Like, it just felt like everyone was kind of coming together to 525 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,520 tell these stories. So awesome, awesome, awesome 526 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,760 kind of thing to get to do at the Toronto Film Festival. 527 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,120 Great. I'm jealous. 528 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,200 Well, so listen though Brian, before we get onto our main 529 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,200 topic, we have to circle back because I have finally seen 530 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:34,840 weapons. Yay. 531 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,240 We can talk about it. The moratorium has been lifted. 532 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,960 Exactly. Yeah, we mentioned this in the 533 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,480 last episode with Derek, Vicki, Cristina, Barcelona, where we 534 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,480 were talking about A Nightmare on Elm Street Part 2, Freddy's 535 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,040 Revenge that just. Rolled off your tongue, Yeah. 536 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,320 Weapons much easier. What did you think of weapons? 537 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,960 I fucking love weapons. It's. 538 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,160 So good. It's the best, yeah. 539 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,080 It's just so inventive and creative and cool. 540 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,000 The story's fun, even though it's like horrendous and dark. 541 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,760 This is what I love about it as well. 542 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,800 It starts like very matter of fact and kind of like. 543 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,920 Just like like they wake up in the morning Yeah, and they class 544 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,320 full of kids has disappeared except for one and go from. 545 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,400 There and it's really dark and like what's happening and and 546 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,520 like the the movie is, is not like holding your hand through 547 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,480 this. The movie is like, eh, you hear, 548 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,320 you hear this because this is horrible and it's gonna be 549 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,120 horrible and it actually gets worse and it does. 550 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:40,240 But it's fucking fun and it's fucking fun and I'm in love with 551 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,320 all of the actors. The the the The screenplay loves 552 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,400 the characters. The director loves the 553 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,560 characters. The actors love the characters. 554 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,680 And it's, it's wonderful. It's OK, Julie. 555 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,320 Julie. Julie Child. 556 00:28:53,720 --> 00:29:00,320 Julie Child weapons heavens have a hot. 557 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,640 Dog 7 hot dogs and nachos. Is that the thing anyways? 558 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,760 Yeah, Julia. Garner, Josh Brolin. 559 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,400 Josh Brolin. Benedict Wong. 560 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,280 Wong, Poor Benedict Wong. Yeah. 561 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:19,160 Oh, and the the director is who? Zach Kreger, Yeah, director of 562 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,880 Barbarian. Yeah, which we love. 563 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,360 And what's the TV show? You know it. 564 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,560 Oh it wasn't ATV show, it was a YouTube show. 565 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,680 The whitest kids you know. The whitest kids you know. 566 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,480 Back of the genesis of YouTube. Back when when you know, Kevin 567 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,360 and I made a little show called Annexed. 568 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,800 Oh yeah, competitors, you were competing. 569 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,440 You know, we were all we were, we were all creating together, 570 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,280 me and Donald Glover. And what's his face? 571 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,400 Zack Krager. To think you almost directed 572 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,360 weapons. To think that could have been 573 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,840 me. I could have been Wildish 574 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,480 Gambino. So yeah, that that because 575 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,400 Donald Glover did Derek comedy yeah yeah yeah. 576 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,840 With all those guys, because everybody, everybody who was in 577 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,120 college or university and you know, the late. 578 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,000 Dailymotion and yeah, early days of YouTube called it the 579 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,120 wildest. It was amazing. 580 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,880 Yeah, it was great. It was all short and sweet 581 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,800 because you couldn't have. There's no such thing as like a 582 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,480 2 hour YouTube. Video. 583 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,320 YouTube used to have a 10 minute yeah video. 584 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,000 Like, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 585 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,920 Fascinating. Anyway, weapons. 586 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,080 The movie is glorious. What I want to ask you is what 587 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,160 does the weapons mean? Who are the weapons? 588 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,920 Yes. Who are the weapons they. 589 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,480 To me, this is a humble opinion, but I think the movie, The 590 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,160 weapons are the children and the movie The as a metaphor is about 591 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,480 how society, maybe how specifically countries, how 592 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,400 maybe specifically you could look at it politically, you 593 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,320 could say governments, or you could say, you could say very 594 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,280 broadly generations. But how, how, how there's a 595 00:30:54,280 --> 00:31:00,480 control over children over people like how kids like maybe 596 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,800 these days there's, you know, in social media, people are primed 597 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,920 to feel very strongly one way or another. 598 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,040 And in a way being weaponized or being, you know, through their 599 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,360 opinions, being told you have to feel very strongly either way of 600 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,120 this one issue that might not even be a real issue, but it's 601 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,400 just to make people feel something against each other in 602 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,160 a weird way, like almost distract them. 603 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,160 And that's, that's, that was my reading of it. 604 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,760 It's like an ancient, like evil that's that's usurping or 605 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,720 that's, that's taking children or weaponizing children and 606 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,360 using it to, to to cause damage to others. 607 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,880 That's very broadly how I saw it. 608 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,480 I don't know, but what what was what? 609 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,960 What's your sense on it? Literally I didn't have a good 610 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,600 answer. And so like I, I was asking you 611 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,880 that for a bit of clarity myself, I think you put it 612 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,280 better than I would have been able to articulate it. 613 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,480 So. I did it better the first time 614 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:54,920 though I think. No, that was great. 615 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,640 That was fantastic. Yeah. 616 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,360 Because that was my question is like, what is how does this, how 617 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,440 does this tie into the theme? And I think you're absolutely 618 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,680 right. I think that the theme of that 619 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:10,000 movie is, you know, people can be used as weapons against each. 620 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,680 Other against, our parents against. 621 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,960 Yeah, against their their neighbors, against everything. 622 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,240 And like, yeah. And that's that's why there's a 623 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,680 big floating AK47 in Josh Bolin's dream. 624 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,920 Genius. Just a genius. 625 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,200 Fantastic movie. Yeah. 626 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,720 Well, listen Brian, why don't we take a quick break and then we 627 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,360 can go back to that little known author named Stephen King that 628 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,640 we were talking about before and talk about the glorious box 629 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,280 office bomb The Shawshank. Yes. 630 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,160 We'll be right back. All right. 631 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,760 Listen, Brian. Yes. 632 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,560 Have you ever heard of The Shawshank Redemption? 633 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,720 Have I ever heard of it? Yeah. 634 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,320 Like this is a weird 1. I don't know about you. 635 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,160 What age were you when you first saw this movie? 636 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,320 Oh, in my 20s. I didn't see it for a very long 637 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,880 time like it was. It was a big hole in my, like, 638 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,680 like, movie repertoire for a while. 639 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,640 Yeah. I honestly feel like Kevin and I 640 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,680 watched it. Or maybe I just watched it by 641 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,320 myself. Like maybe I rented it from 642 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,440 Queen's Video. Or sorry, Queens. 643 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,480 What's, what's the real one called? 644 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,760 What's the podcast? But yeah, and I and I watched it 645 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,520 as one of those movies like The Godfather or Jaws or those 646 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,960 movies that you watch just so that you know what everyone is 647 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,280 talking about. Yeah, when did you see? 648 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,040 This I saw I was far too young since came out in 1995. 649 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,960 I was about I'm not going to age myself fuck it I will. 650 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,080 I was about 10 years of age in 1995 S same year Batman forever 651 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,240 is coming out. I saw it when it came out in 652 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,720 home video. It started like this is a movie 653 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,920 that famously didn't do that well in theaters but blew up in 654 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,000 the home video sector. It's one of those things where 655 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,800 like home video was huge. We're now at the tail end of 656 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,000 that where it's not really a thing anymore. 657 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,160 Home video it's it's kind of a joke to think of something being 658 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,160 popular on home video, but. But I mean, the the streaming, 659 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,040 the parallel is streaming. Yeah, yeah. 660 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,719 I mean, it's like if something got really big with streaming. 661 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,440 Yeah, but yeah, I remember watching it far too young and 662 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,080 like, it's weird 'cause it's one of the 1st movies where I 663 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,239 remember. And I think it's a bad thing 664 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,679 ultimately, where like the threat of of somebody being 665 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,159 raped, a male being raped in a movie was like presented to me 666 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,880 as a thing that could happen to you in a prison or whatever it 667 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,159 was the first time. And I remember being profoundly 668 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,320 disturbed by that. You know, when you're that age, 669 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,120 you're kind of just learning what sex is anyways. 670 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,120 Like the basic concept of it is still very mysterious. 671 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,920 So to understand that it could that somebody could come in and 672 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,440 perturb that concept as a bit disturbing, very disturbing. 673 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,560 And and another thing is when I was younger, I never really got 674 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,840 that like Andy, he is always being sexually assaulted. 675 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,480 Like there's a scene, there's portions in that movie where 676 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,440 he's being regularly. They don't even hide it like he 677 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,800 is. He has been sexually assaulted 678 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,400 and there's a concern for his mental health like his friends 679 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,080 are concerned for his mental health, which I don't think I 680 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,640 picked up on. Unlike my when I was greener 681 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,240 watching it, I was always like, Phew, he got away with that 682 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:16,640 time, but he didn't. He didn't. 683 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,880 Well, like we were talking about, I mean, I don't know if 684 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,920 it was in this take or the previous take, yeah, but 685 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:27,120 certainly movies that movies that your ideas of their quality 686 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,760 change the. Older for sure. 687 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,560 Now this movie, The shot redemption, I think at this 688 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,320 point is is is kind of synonymous with like high 689 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,440 quality cinema, You know, like, like it it it, it came out in a 690 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,560 banger year. I think it came out in 1994, 691 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,560 right? Maybe. 692 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,640 You would have seen it in 1995. Yeah. 693 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,080 That was the year that Forrest Gump came out. 694 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:54,280 Pulp Fiction came out like this. Got buried under a whole bunch 695 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,280 of good stuff. Yeah. 696 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:58,920 It was written and directed by Frank Darabont, who's great. 697 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,280 Well, and so tie in because because Queens video in Queens 698 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:04,440 video. We like everything to have a 699 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,360 nice through line now. Thanks. 700 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,160 For Nolan. Exactly. 701 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,880 Frank Darabont wrote the screenplay to A Nightmare on Elm 702 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,040 Street Part 3. 3 correct. So, Carl, I'm proud of you. 703 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,640 After we were done watching A Nightmare on Elm Street Part 2 704 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,920 Freddy's. No, I have not seen Mary Elm 705 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,120 Street Part 3, but I have seen The Shawshank. 706 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,200 OK, OK. Well, you've seen the right one 707 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,400 then. If you had to pick one, you pick 708 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,920 the right one. Yeah, so Frank Darabont was like 709 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,120 he was a screenwriter for a whole bunch of like, like 80s. 710 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,240 I think he did the fly too. I. 711 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,240 Don't know if he did that but he did one and this is a weird one. 712 00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,640 It like it at the time. Huge flop. 713 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,240 It's actually terrific, but AB movie The BLOB remake from. 714 00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:49,560 1988, yeah. Surprisingly good. 715 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,720 But then he said to Stephen King, Look, I really like this. 716 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:56,840 The Dollar Babies are you? Oh yeah, so Dollar Babies, 717 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,600 sorry, tell tell you. Go ahead. 718 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,920 No. No, no, no, no, I was. 719 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:00,880 I skipped that part. Tell the. 720 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,400 So Stephen King went through a phase where all his books were 721 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:11,680 adapted to very varying degrees of quality, so he was getting 722 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,840 paychecks from big studios who would develop and makes 723 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,960 occasionally great movies. You get your carries, you get 724 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,040 your shining. He he he would have hated the 725 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,840 shining and always did so. The shining to him is it was a 726 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,120 reason to do this institute this thing that he did. 727 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:32,640 So he liked the idea of giving new talent a chance a break. 728 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,800 So if they would make a shorter, they pitch something to him, he 729 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,240 would give them the rights for a certain period of time for 730 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:43,840 whatever they pitched to him, like a Shawshank or maybe the 731 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,920 Long Walk or something like that. 732 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,440 And he would give them the rights for if they gave him 733 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,200 $1.00 for some reason, there's some law that like something 734 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,760 financially has to pass, but he would sell the rights to someone 735 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,840 he liked to that he got good vibes from for a dollar and they 736 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,400 would go and make. And so Shawshank Redemption is 737 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,360 one of those. So Frank Darabont was thirsty 738 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,000 for it and he got the rights. And so this wasn't something 739 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,840 that, like Warner Brothers brought and then and then 740 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,720 developed with him. It was something he developed 741 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,280 and with Stephen King. So yeah. 742 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,400 Cool. And the story, of course, is set 743 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,440 in Shawshank Penitentiary in Maine. 744 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:26,600 It's the story of Andy Dufresne, who is wrongfully convicted of 745 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,360 murdering his wife and gets sent to prison for two concurrent 746 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,640 life sentences. In prison, he meets Red, and Red 747 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,280 is has already been in there. I think, like, it starts out 748 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,400 with his, like, first parole hearing. 749 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,840 Like, yeah, 20 years into his thing. 750 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,880 Of course, Andy is played by Tim Robbins. 751 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,640 Yeah. Red is played by Morgan Freeman. 752 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,400 They're both fantastic. Best Morgan Freeman, one of the 753 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:50,600 best and like. Not the best. 754 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,160 That's a tough call because Morgan Freeman is. 755 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,440 Excellent. Yeah. 756 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,360 Across the board, yeah. But yeah, the the plot of the 757 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,080 movie, I think I what I'd like to do is I think this segment, 758 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,920 no spoilers, will do Part 2 spoiler if it. 759 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,440 So if you haven't seen the Shawshank Redemption, we haven't 760 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,720 said anything now that ruins any of the movie. 761 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,720 Once we're done and we take our break for the second one, then 762 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,760 go watch Shawshank Redemption, come back, know how it ends, and 763 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,920 then finish the podcast from there. 764 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,280 What do you think? Yeah, I agree. 765 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,640 So making creative decisions live on the on the podcast 766 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,640 that's go. That everybody tunes in for the 767 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,480 Sparks, Brian, everybody tunes in for the Sparks. 768 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,400 God damn it. But yeah, and that's the so then 769 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,040 the plot of the movie is is basically Andys experience in in 770 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,680 prison, narrated by Red and and the the horrible abuse that he, 771 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,520 you know, is a victim of the shitty prison warden, the like 772 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,400 life, you know. It's quite uplifting, like it's 773 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,160 but that's the thing, it's life affirming in a in a way. 774 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,600 It's not through the shit like shit with sugar, I guess is what 775 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,680 you would say. They they find life. 776 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:04,440 No Brian, no spoilers. Well, it doesn't spoil anything. 777 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,480 But yeah, like I think that's is that why is that not why people 778 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,040 love The Shawshank Redemption? Definitely. 779 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,520 There was a buzz about this movie when it came. 780 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,520 I remember, like, even kids my age were like, that's the best 781 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,880 movie I've ever seen. Yeah. 782 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,440 Like, people, like people of all ages really understood that this 783 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,080 was a very affecting movie, a very, like, I think a lot of 784 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,880 people had strong emotional reactions to movie in a way that 785 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,440 they didn't previously. So I think there's something 786 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,880 about this movie that just generally speaks to people that 787 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,720 has a a general sense that speaks to a bunch of people. 788 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:40,920 Yeah, a large chunk of people. What do you think is so 789 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,440 affecting about it? Do you think it's the story? 790 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,320 Do you think it's the direction? Do you think it's their 791 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,880 performances? Do you think it's the subject 792 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:48,880 matter? Like what? 793 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,000 Hooks people? Yeah. 794 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,120 The Shawshank Redemption. Trying to understand that is 795 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,200 tough because it is a very good movie. 796 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,600 Like I'll just say one thing, just preface that because I'm 797 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,360 saying it's a very, very good movie, but I don't think it's 798 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,640 quite the master work I used to think it was. 799 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,280 Now having rewatched it. This is what you thought? 800 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,800 You were like most current viewer, but that is, I don't 801 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,120 know if it's the it's something to do with the film or it's 802 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,520 maybe because it's been, it's become part of the zeitgeist so 803 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,880 much that it is now the DNA of film. 804 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,560 It almost seems cliche. Yeah. 805 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,520 But my my theory on why the the secret of success is it's got 806 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,000 that breezy kind of every man. I think it's in the dialogue. 807 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,440 I think it's in the performances. 808 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,800 I think it's in the approach the movie has in general to the 809 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,120 concept of, of incarceration. It's got that folksy kind of 810 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,120 it's, it's from a blue collar man's perspective and it's very 811 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,040 humble. Yeah. 812 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,360 It's about humble people who are good and at heart and or like 813 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,520 maybe you know, mostly it's about that. 814 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,840 But yeah, I think that's the core of it. 815 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,320 I've, I've heard that as a critique in the movie, you know, 816 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,520 like where people, if anybody has anything bad to say about 817 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,800 Shawshank Redemption, one of the things they say is like these 818 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,960 people are all, like, they're all criminals. 819 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,640 Like, like you, you know, and, and obviously like, I mean, we 820 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,000 listen, we know, we know what my politics are. 821 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,680 We know that I, you know, I'm no big fan of, of, you know, cops 822 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,160 and, and prison wardens and people who beat up criminals 823 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,120 just because they want to go on a power trip. 824 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,480 But it is very like, you know, there's, there's the good guys 825 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,080 and they're the inmates and there's the bad guys and they're 826 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,840 the, the prison staff. The good prisoners are redeemed. 827 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,880 Like the title. Yeah. 828 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,680 And by their association with Andy, who comes into the prison 829 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,800 and breathes hope into Shawshank. 830 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,480 It and it could have been the cheese like it is very cheesy it 831 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:48,960 is. It is cheese. 832 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,640 It's. Good. 833 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,920 It could have been worse, I guess. 834 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,120 Yeah, something. And I think if it was 1° to the 835 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,720 left in any direction, it wouldn't have worked. 836 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,040 Yeah, it was a little darker. It might have been too dark. 837 00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:02,640 If it was a little like cheesier than it is, it would have been 838 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,680 too cheesy. But yeah, it kind of strikes a 839 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,800 good balance, I think. Now, I we watched In the Name of 840 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,160 the Father a few months ago, which I think is actually, yeah, 841 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,360 I kept being reminded of it during the movie because 842 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,760 obviously that's also a very heavily set it like it's that's 843 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,720 that's a prison. I mean, that's that's, that's, 844 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,560 that's the, that's the that's a much better movie than this to 845 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:22,760 me. But not that we're comparing 846 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,320 whatever, but. Or at least it's a much it it, 847 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,200 it, it, I don't know. It deals with the themes of 848 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,520 incarceration a lot more. It's more challenging. 849 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:35,160 Honestly, it's not using them as a metaphor, I guess in the same 850 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,640 way that Shawshank Redemption is. 851 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,840 Yeah, and I guess it's more focused on family relationships 852 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,360 and politics of the time. It it's more nuanced. 853 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,280 There's a lot more going on in that movie. 854 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,800 Whereas there's a. Lot Shank is more like sort of. 855 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,680 It takes a step back and looks at a macro, kind of. 856 00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:52,080 Or like more allegorical. Yeah, right. 857 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,800 Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. 858 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,520 And it's it, It works really well. 859 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,880 It's very well shot and like, it's very well conceived. 860 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,440 Yeah, I got to bring up the name of the the cinematographer. 861 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,320 Well, that's that's posters. So I iconic of him like in the 862 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,440 rain, like yeah, his arms out. It's quite beautiful. 863 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,120 Apparently he and Frank Darabont fought a lot. 864 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,720 During the movie. And. 865 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:16,360 Cinematographer. Or the cinematographer and Frank 866 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,720 Derr and the director fought a lot during the movie. 867 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,280 And actually that's a great example of it because the 868 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,920 cinematographer was hate, didn't didn't like how that shot turned 869 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,200 out. He thought it was too bright. 870 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,000 He thought it was too well lit. And Frank Darabont was like, no, 871 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,720 it's perfect. It's it's it's like salvation. 872 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,160 And then the other thing, the other kind of argument I heard 873 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,800 they had was that one of them wanted to never show the outside 874 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,600 of the prison and have the entire like, like, like, or at 875 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,320 least never, never have shots that showed over the prison 876 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,920 walls. Like this is an interesting 877 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,400 thing. Whenever the camera yeah, well, 878 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,480 and there's like there are there's several very good shots 879 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,760 in this movie, like the the helicopter over the prison or 880 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,280 when they would be. So expensive to shoot as well. 881 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,400 Well, back then, yeah. Now you can just do it with CGI 882 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,800 and drones and shit. But then, like, or when Andy's 883 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,560 being held over the wall that they're, or the, or the, the 884 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,520 roof that they're painting. Or even when like Andy in red or 885 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,160 like it's, you know, after, after, you know, one of the 886 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,360 tragedies at the end of the second act and Andy is sitting 887 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,080 despondent and talking about how, you know, when he gets out 888 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,360 of here, he's going to go to Mexico. 889 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,040 And just the cameras, like sitting on the ground far away 890 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,560 from the two of them. And they're just sitting against 891 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,360 the wall. And it's just beautifully set 892 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:32,920 up. Yeah. 893 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,320 Yeah, I think you have to like, I think when you're filming a 894 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,040 film like this in a shitty ugly penitentiary and you're trying 895 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,360 to find the light in the dark, you have to get creative. 896 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,480 You have to find a way to find the beauty in the dark. 897 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,040 And that's another thing of these movies. 898 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,680 Absolutely Fabulous ad and that opening shot is iconic. 899 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,160 Like I always remember that the opening scene of Shawshank. 900 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,880 It gives the IT gives the prison a character and it like it shows 901 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,040 off the beautiful space that they had that they filmed it in 902 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,120 as well. It does multiple things and as 903 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:08,960 well. I think there's something 904 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:14,720 interesting about it because a lot of the film is kind of not 905 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:17,080 claustrophobic, but it is set in interiors. 906 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,120 It is, it is, it's it's always kind of gross and gritty. 907 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,840 There's always a lot of people. But in those scenes where it's 908 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,040 it's almost it's it's red narrating and it's almost like 909 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,320 he's narrating from the heavens in a way. 910 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,200 Like he's not. We know where he's narrating 911 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,200 from at the end, but he's he's he's narrating from an elevated 912 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,440 status, I guess. And that's that shows in the 913 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,880 beautiful sweeping shot, I think. 914 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:45,000 That's a great point, and maybe that's why everyone loves it, 915 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,680 you know? Maybe that's why it's so 916 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,960 uplifting. Maybe Carl? 917 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,000 Well, listen, why don't we take a break and we'll give you all 918 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,000 when we. Come back when we come back I 919 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,400 have a fun little game for you OK I have a question for you 920 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,920 going to answer when we when we come back all. 921 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,480 Right. Well, don't touch that dial, 922 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,720 everybody. Queen's video. 923 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:04,320 We'll be right back. You're so good at that. 924 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,520 I wish I I I need that. Do you, have you been training 925 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,720 to do that? Have you been like, we're going 926 00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:11,360 to be right? Back Oh my whole life, baby. 927 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,240 We want to just go straight back in. 928 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:44,760 Let's. Do it. 929 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,160 We're on a roll. We're on a roll. 930 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:50,280 Papa Trailer, we're on a roll. And we're back. 931 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,920 OK, Now that you've all sat there and watched all of 932 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,080 Shawshank Redemption, it's good to see you all 2 1/2 hours 933 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:57,800 later. Yeah. 934 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,200 Brian, you had a question for me. 935 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,960 Fun sort. So in film school we watched 936 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,400 this movie and studied this movie. 937 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,160 And so we watched Shawshank Redemption. 938 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,240 At the end of the movie The Teacher turned it off screen 939 00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:12,120 writing teacher and said OK tell me who the protagonist of the 940 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,040 movie is. Andy. 941 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,200 No. Red. 942 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,680 Red's the protagonist, Andy is the thrust. 943 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,000 Andy is really like more of a metaphor. 944 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,360 And. You're experiencing the prison 945 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,880 through Red's experience, and it's his experience. 946 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,560 So everything that's happening to Andy, a concern he has for 947 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,600 Andy is a manifestation of a concern that's going to happen 948 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,720 to him. Yeah. 949 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:47,520 And Andy is his redemption. Is the Shawshank. 950 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,040 Andy gives him hope. Andy gives him. 951 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,560 Yeah, he's inspired by Andy. Yeah, no, I and I thought I, I 952 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,520 mean it's, it's I almost takes the wind out of my sails a 953 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,680 little bit too, because it's. Smart. 954 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,000 And it's weird, but it's very interesting. 955 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:09,120 But it's also a little bit less almost creative than in than 956 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,160 thinking about it that Andy is a protagonist in Red is the 957 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,480 narrator. Because if Andy is a protagonist 958 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,520 in Red is the narrator, then it's kind of cool how at the end 959 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:23,360 of the movie, when spoiler alerts, yeah, Andy escapes from 960 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,880 prison, Red finally gets paroled, and they all join up 961 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,680 together. It all. 962 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:33,920 Like, it's kind of cool then that the movie turns to Red and 963 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,560 follows Red through for, like, the whole kind of emotional 964 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:37,400 catharsis. Yeah. 965 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,400 Like so if as in if Red is the protagonist, which I think 966 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,400 you're right, I think that's that's, that's definitely it, 967 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,800 then that makes a lot more sense. 968 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,000 And it's not necessarily as much of A creative decision. 969 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,360 Yeah, Andy, you're never. Andy really has no threats for 970 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,560 him. The only time anyone ever really 971 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,240 is concerned for Andy, and there's only ever concern for 972 00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,360 Andy. Andy himself is never concerned 973 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,880 for himself because Andy is always 2 steps ahead of 974 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,440 everyone. Yeah, Andy doesn't really care. 975 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,760 You guys can rate me whatever. I have a plan for you. 976 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,120 I have a plan for everyone. I'm going to get everyone and 977 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,720 I'm going to get out of here. And he knows. 978 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,880 And in watching the movie, a second like this is one of those 979 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,760 movies that is a completely different watch the second time 980 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,040 than it is the first time you see it. 981 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,600 Like the first time you watch the Shawshank Redemption, you 982 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,000 think, oh, this is just kind of a plaintive movie about 983 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:29,840 friendships in the, you know, one of the hardest places that 984 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,400 there is to be in the world. You know, it it even the plot 985 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:39,760 seems a little kind of secondary to the like themes of kind of 986 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,240 the these these people's development through the prison. 987 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,760 The second time you see it, it's all plot. 988 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,080 Every moment is just like when you know, when you know how he 989 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,240 gets out and all the all the little bits that he does and all 990 00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:54,640 the all the games that he plays. And again, and like, like you 991 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,040 said, how he's always in control and he's always manipulating 992 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,680 situations to, you know, help himself, you know, live, you 993 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,520 know, a life of hope and Shawshank or whatever. 994 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,200 Like it's the second time you watch the movie. 995 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,960 Every moment is plot. Yeah, you know. 996 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,280 Yeah, yeah. And I think maybe that watching 997 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,840 it a second time and like having that experience about maybe it's 998 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,280 not as good a movie as I thought it was. 999 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,000 When you miss the part where that emotional moment where you 1000 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,280 realize it's a bait and switch. You're supposed to think Andy's 1001 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,160 killed himself, but really he's escaped. 1002 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,920 And that's. And you're supposed to think Red 1003 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,720 has killed himself. Yeah, right. 1004 00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:32,560 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that the whole threat of 1005 00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:38,320 killing, you know, suicide, Yeah, that all comes from Red. 1006 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,040 That comes from Red through their other friend. 1007 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,840 I can't remember it, Brooks. Yeah. 1008 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,280 Brooks commits suicide, He's released, he's 1009 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,520 institutionalized, and he just can't hack the real world 1010 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,320 because he's he just doesn't have the skill sets. 1011 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,520 Yeah, and, and it's very sad and it's very haunting the way it's 1012 00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:00,400 done and that, that that suicide haunts the rest of the movie to 1013 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,160 to right up to the point where we think and he's had enough. 1014 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,280 Yeah, Andy has had enough, but he has another solution. 1015 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,400 And so it's a huge emotional relief to the audience to feel, 1016 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,480 to realize not only is Andy alive, he's fucked everyone. 1017 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,040 Yeah, who's fucked him over. And it's marvelous. 1018 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,560 Yeah, he's, it's a heist movie, but it's a very, very good 1019 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,280 heist. It's like the ultimate heist. 1020 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,360 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's also one of the great, 1021 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,360 like, male friendship movies. Yeah. 1022 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,280 It's a real good buddy friendship. 1023 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,200 Yeah. And like, it's even it's a buddy 1024 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,840 movie where they're not, you know, chasing the same girl or 1025 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,480 they're not like trying to plan a Cape or or something. 1026 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,640 It's just it's a like maybe, maybe, maybe one of the reasons 1027 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,360 why it's so popular is when men watch this, they actually get to 1028 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,840 see just a good solid friendship, right? 1029 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,160 You know which the. Healthy one that's not based on 1030 00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,800 competition. You fucking yeah. 1031 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,480 Yeah, You know, you like, like, that's a rare thing in Western 1032 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,200 media. Yeah, you're right, especially. 1033 00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:07,440 Hollywood stuff. And that's, that's again what I 1034 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,160 was alluding to earlier with the Long Walk. 1035 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,280 There's a there is a relationship very similar to 1036 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,480 that in In the Long Walk too, which is kind of inspiring. 1037 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,760 But I wonder if I wonder if that's common in Stephen King. 1038 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,160 I think it is. Yeah. 1039 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:19,880 I think it is. You know, it's probably it 1040 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,400 probably is. Stand by me. 1041 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,840 You know what, even when I think of like the stand or, you know, 1042 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,600 the bigger ones, like it's all about like relationships that 1043 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,240 people have in towns. There's a small town, there's 1044 00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:34,040 always a lot of men having really strong friendships with 1045 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,280 other men. Yeah, and, and women too, or, 1046 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,400 you know, like I think it's, I think it works both ways. 1047 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,240 But yeah, it's definitely a through line. 1048 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,160 But yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's a good movie to dissect and 1049 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,840 like, I think it's a good one to show. 1050 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,120 I said in film school, it really kind of blasted our idea of what 1051 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,560 a protagonist is and what what plot is and like how how it can 1052 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,080 be very cleverly moved around a movie. 1053 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,240 I think it, you know, if you, if it like if you think of Red as a 1054 00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:04,600 protagonist, then it actually kind of structurally makes like 1055 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,680 it, it, it almost becomes an even more classic Hollywood 1056 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,360 script. You know, like, certainly it 1057 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,520 opens with Andy's trial, Yeah, which is the inciting incident. 1058 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,480 But then, you know, right on the right on the Syd field 10 minute 1059 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,560 mark. Yeah, Red shows up and starts 1060 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,360 talking. Well, and even the screenplay 1061 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,080 drops the little bread crumbs about that, too, because the 1062 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,480 judge is like, I've never seen someone so cold and despondent 1063 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,040 in my life. Yeah. 1064 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,200 So you're going, you're doing time based on that. 1065 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,080 And I think that's maybe the only time you see Andy show any 1066 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,680 kind of emotion, which is kind of ironic because he's being 1067 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,440 accused of having no emotion. But the rest of the movie, he's 1068 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,320 really unflappable. Yeah. 1069 00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:46,320 The audience can't really be worried for him except when Red 1070 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,320 is worried for him. Yeah. 1071 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,120 And and that's a big worry for Red. 1072 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,200 And that's that's his journey because he's he's the one that's 1073 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,360 having the concern about committing suicide. 1074 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,480 Yeah. It's beautiful. 1075 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,640 It's great. It's great. 1076 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,560 I one thing I always kind of remember about this is that it's 1077 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,800 like the top rated, it's the top user rated movie on IMDb. 1078 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,920 Of all time, like, right, yeah. Because there's, there's always, 1079 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,480 even before IMDb, there's always been this thing that like, it's 1080 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,120 the top rated, like people really remember this movie and 1081 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,400 rated very highly. I find that interesting. 1082 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,280 Like I, I maybe it's because this like splits the difference. 1083 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,640 And again, it goes back to like when this when the movie came 1084 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,640 out, when, when Shawshank Redemption came out, Forrest 1085 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,800 Gump was the one that won the, you know, Academy Award for Best 1086 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,240 picture that year. Like, why does Shawshank 1087 00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:39,560 Redemption get such high scores? I guess is the question that I'm 1088 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,720 I'm asking. It's a interesting thing. 1089 00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:44,280 Like, to me, it's like the people's prize, you know what I 1090 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,000 mean? It's like maybe in filmmaking 1091 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,640 circles, it really wasn't something that they liked or 1092 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:57,120 responded to, but people liked it, like average people saw it 1093 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,720 and fucking love Square in love with it. 1094 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,800 This. Well, you know, I, I wasn't from 1095 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,360 his. Well, maybe I was, I don't know. 1096 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,200 You're the equivalent of a Square statement. 1097 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,120 Ireland is roughly square shaped. 1098 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,600 It's like a rhombus, you know? Not in County Clare. 1099 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,400 We're we're, we're very jagged in County Clare. 1100 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,440 But yeah, no, it has a, it has a, it has an appeal for sure. 1101 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,080 Yeah, I just think more like, like I, I don't know, I've 1102 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,560 started to think a lot about ratings, you know, now that 1103 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,920 we're, you know, several dozen episodes deep into this. 1104 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,640 And then the other thing is like, again, I, I've referred to 1105 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,680 Letterboxed a couple of times here, but I just find like 1106 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,120 Letterboxed is a mixed bag when it comes to me watching movies. 1107 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,680 Like, it's nice to record the movies that I watch, you know, 1108 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,440 as though I didn't already have a flippant podcast where I did 1109 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,760 that very thing. But but then I find the problem 1110 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,920 is you start to only contextualize the quality of the 1111 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,640 movies in a rating system. You know, like you, you, you 1112 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:59,840 lose a lot of nuance the instant you have to slap a number onto a 1113 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,000 movie. Like I think how do you rate the 1114 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,040 Shawshank Redemption? Very hard to rate this. 1115 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,560 Like you're right and I think it would be superfluous for us. 1116 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,920 I, I, I know I have a habit. I love it, and it's part of that 1117 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,760 stupid thing in my brain to categorize. 1118 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,280 I do too though. Put it in buckets and, and, and, 1119 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,120 and so then I have control over it and like, whatever, but maybe 1120 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,040 it's out of control because I, you know, this is one of those 1121 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,400 things where the quality will slide because as it gets older, 1122 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,680 it gets less relevant and all that stuff. 1123 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,560 It's still a very good movie. It's a classic. 1124 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,560 Does it have legs like The Godfather? 1125 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,440 Probably not, but it's still still excellent. 1126 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,440 I guess, yeah, I think the writings on the wall that it 1127 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,320 does, I mean it's still. People still rave. 1128 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,040 People still rave about the Shawshank Redemption now. 1129 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:50,360 I mean, you were saying it's not as like it seemed to me. 1130 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,720 The, the, the feeling that that I'm getting from you is that. 1131 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,160 I didn't enjoy it as much. I didn't have the same emotional 1132 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,280 journey as I did when I was. I'm like, it's, it's weird 1133 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,160 watching a thing when you're 10 years of age. 1134 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:03,880 Yeah. And but I really did love it 1135 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,440 when I was 10 and I knew that I was watching an adult movie that 1136 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,400 was sort of outside my sphere, but that it was excellent. 1137 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,720 I could acknowledge that it was excellent, cool and, and like 1138 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,040 watching it subsequently as well. 1139 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,360 Like it is, it is, it is excellent, but but this last 1140 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,080 viewing made me kind of question this. 1141 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,520 The large standing that it has, I think it maybe gets more than 1142 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,520 it might deserve. It's neat, it's cool, it's it's 1143 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,480 interesting, but I don't know if it's like I say, is it 1144 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,840 Apocalypse Now? Is it, is it the Godfather? 1145 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,160 Is it like there are other classics that are, you know, I'm 1146 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,440 sorry, I would, I would rather something else have that like 1147 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,400 People's award, but the fuck would I know? 1148 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,240 How much do I actually know? I'm not. 1149 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,920 It's not like I'm an authority on anything. 1150 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,600 Well, you know, we do have a podcast to make a joke of it. 1151 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,520 I'm going to I'm going to ruin the the tone and make a joke, 1152 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,160 but also be kind of serious. How much do you think it is 1153 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:06,600 because of that title, like The Shawshank Redemption is, it is a 1154 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,360 hell of a title to try to get your mouth around. 1155 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,680 Yeah. And it it consequently it sticks 1156 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,360 in your mind. Yeah, Shawshank Redemption, The 1157 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,960 Shawshank. It's got, it's got a, it's got a 1158 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,080 ring to it too. It it it does. 1159 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,400 Yeah. But it also, like, I mean, I 1160 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,960 swear to God, the first, you know, like when I was young, I 1161 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,360 would listen to that title and I would not hear words. 1162 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,120 Yeah, I would just hear sounds. Yeah, Yeah, you're right. 1163 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,160 Yeah, It's an interesting, it's an interesting thing. 1164 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,720 I I, I and like also it's one of those titles, like it definitely 1165 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,560 had no clue what Shawshank Redemption meant or referred to 1166 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,640 or anything. Like I know now I can digest it. 1167 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,680 I can be like, it's handy. But I didn't back then. 1168 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,440 Yeah, then I didn't need to. I really didn't need to. 1169 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,440 Like that's and that's a kind of a thing in the movie too, is 1170 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,880 that like some of it's going over your head. 1171 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,160 That's a lot of what's happening in the movie is going over the 1172 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,880 audience's head for the largest portion of the movie so that 1173 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:00,720 that it could be a choice. I don't know. 1174 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,640 The original title of the short story is Rita Hayworth and the 1175 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:05,840 Shawshank. Redemption. 1176 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,840 So they they zipped that down a bit. 1177 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,280 They didn't need to. You could call a movie that too. 1178 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,240 But I think Shawshank is a better. 1179 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,600 Rita Hayworth in The Shawshank Redemption is the name of an 1180 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,920 indie band. Yeah, that would be a hell of an 1181 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,920 indie bands name. Real quick, this short story is 1182 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:27,320 This is part of the Different Seasons short story compilation 1183 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,520 by Stephen King and it has some corkers in there. 1184 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,800 So the other short story, it's 4 short stories. 1185 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,120 The other short story that's in there is Stand By Me and the 1186 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,120 other one is Apartment Pupil. Oh. 1187 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:44,600 Yeah, so like 3. I mean, great, great, great 1188 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,520 movies. I don't care. 1189 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,160 They are. They're great movies, all of 1190 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,760 them. And three great short stories. 1191 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,320 That's that. If you were to buy a Stephen 1192 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,040 King book and you want to read some short stories, that's the 1193 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,800 one. The third, the 4th, 1 is the 1194 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,720 breathing method. It's really not filmable. 1195 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:01,120 It's a very weird short story about a woman who is pregnant 1196 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,240 and gets decapitated but somehow births the baby. 1197 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,840 OK, Yeah. It's good. 1198 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,560 It's it's interesting, yeah. It's about survival or whatever, 1199 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,120 Like, yeah. I just realized if we were to do 1200 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,200 a sister podcast that is our Queen's Video Book Club, we 1201 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:21,440 would have to do some kind of gay pun on the name of like BMV 1202 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,840 books so. But it's got to be gay. 1203 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,000 It can't be too gross. Why don't we send that out as a 1204 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,320 challenge to queensvideopodcast@gmail.com? 1205 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:36,080 If we were to start a Queen's Video Book Club podcast, what 1206 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,840 would we call it and what would be the gay pun? 1207 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,240 Yeah, what? Let's let them. 1208 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,720 Why don't we let them meditate on? 1209 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,840 That gay hive mind deploy. And we'll be right back. 1210 01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,640 God damn it Carl, this is hot off. 1211 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,520 Brian, you have breaking news in the Queen's video newsroom. 1212 01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:51,720 All right, all right, all right, all right. 1213 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,000 Fucking settle for a second. Something very exciting. 1214 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,280 For years, Quentin Tarantino does not release a lot of 1215 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,040 director's cuts or alternate cuts. 1216 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,840 His mantra is once I do it and move on and maybe when he 1217 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,080 retires he'll come back to it. But just announced is that Kill 1218 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:14,560 Bill, the whole bloody affair that cuts like the entire cut of 1219 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,600 Kill Bill is being released this December 5th for the first time 1220 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,840 ever. So it's not the 2 movies just 1221 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,880 like splice together Kill Bill the whole bloody affair is like 1222 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,560 this immersive cut of the entire story. 1223 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,080 You know when it goes in black and white in the original? 1224 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,120 Yeah, in Japan it's released in color. 1225 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:34,440 Yeah. And Kill Bill, the whole bloody 1226 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,160 affair, it will be in color for the first time ever. 1227 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,440 I presume that's this is this is this is what we're we're going 1228 01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,680 to figure out. But there's never before seen. 1229 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,960 Oh, this animated sequence is going to be expanded. 1230 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,000 There's going to be never before seen footage and holy shit stuff 1231 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:49,520 is how. Long. 1232 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:50,880 Is this going to be 6 hours long? 1233 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,200 I have no idea, dude, but we need to, yeah. 1234 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,960 We can see. Oh yeah, in whatever. 1235 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,640 Like this is exciting. This is. 1236 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,480 Sleeping bag in IMAX theater and we're going to go see it there. 1237 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,320 Stoked to see this for years. It had been rumored for so long 1238 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,440 there was talk about DVD release for it or whatever, but this is 1239 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:08,640 actually going to happen. This is cool. 1240 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,640 Interesting Queens video fact cuz I think our most listened to 1241 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,720 episode is the episode where we interviewed my dad. 1242 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,960 Yeah, but our most specifically our most listened to episode on 1243 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,440 Spotify, yeah, is the Kill Bill. Episode. 1244 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,840 Yeah, everyone. Loves the kill Bill episode cuz. 1245 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,920 Cuz we loved it and we had a blast watching it and talking 1246 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,120 about it. You know, episode 3 and we had 1247 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:32,480 already hit the nail on the head. 1248 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,200 Brian yeah, it's it's, it's weird. 1249 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,920 Kill Bill is just a movie for the ages. 1250 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,600 It just is. Like it's maybe his master work. 1251 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,800 And yeah. Listen, we have some Queens 1252 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,960 video mailbag, I think you should read it. 1253 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,480 So here let me give you. No. 1254 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,920 Is this an attack on me? Is this what's gonna happen? 1255 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,440 Let me give you well, so yeah, for context, you can write into 1256 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,440 queensvideopodcast@gmail.com or we also have a link tree that 1257 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,320 you can submit comments too. So yeah, Brian, this came into 1258 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,880 the link tree. Do you want to read that? 1259 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:10,600 Yes, all right, so it reads Guten Morgen, Frau Brian a Frao 1260 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,720 Karl. First time Karl, a long time 1261 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,760 listener here. I was watching on episodes while 1262 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,640 driving from Hootenswoontz where I live in Denmark to small and 1263 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,400 Student Star where I have a summer home in Sweden. 1264 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,160 The question that Paul asked you, which film have you not 1265 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,040 seen that everyone else has seen? 1266 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,760 Which film film is a guilty pleasure and which film would 1267 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,360 you tell Aliens is representative of cinema are 1268 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:40,040 great questions you should ask all your future guests ta ta. 1269 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,800 So less of a question, more of a suggestion. 1270 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,640 Word puzzle, Yeah. Is there a word puzzle here? 1271 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,000 I think it's so Swedish names. Small. 1272 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,680 Yeah. Hey, listen, shout out to 1273 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,840 Denmark, to our listeners in Denmark. 1274 01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,600 Thanks for writing that in. Yeah, whoever you are. 1275 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,440 Mysterious Denmarkian. I guess he's Swedish, right? 1276 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:05,360 Did or Danish? Yeah. 1277 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,600 Or maybe just Bernard fucking with us. 1278 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,720 I think it's a serial killer like the Tata at the end reads 1279 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,240 like a very. Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. 1280 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,000 Tata. But yeah, OK. 1281 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,440 What are the the questions in there? 1282 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,720 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, so the questions are which 1283 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,200 film have you not seen that everyone else has? 1284 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,640 Which film is a guilty pleasure and what film would you tell 1285 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,680 Aliens is representative of cinema? 1286 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,640 OK, so yeah, I'm Brian. I'm sure we answered these 1287 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,920 questions but just to re answer them again because it's been a 1288 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,720 while now. What's the film that you have 1289 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,560 not seen that everyone else has? Seen I have this go to movie and 1290 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,560 now I'll never watch the movie because I don't want it to be 1291 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,240 taken away from me. Braveheart. 1292 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,840 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Never, never seen it. 1293 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,640 That's a good one. What was the second one? 1294 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,240 Which film is a guilty pleasure? What's your film that's a guilty 1295 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:52,960 pleasure? I mean, I always go to nightmare 1296 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,960 and I'm St. yes, I mean. I don't really have guilty 1297 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,560 pleasures. I only have pleasures. 1298 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,680 And then what's the film that Yeah, that that if. 1299 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,480 It would you tell Aliens is representative of cinema. 1300 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,880 I actually remember answering this back in the day, and I 1301 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:12,320 think I said a bad one. I said something like Ridley 1302 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,920 Scott's, that biopic he made with Joaquin Phoenix of 1303 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,120 Napoleon. It's just called Napoleon. 1304 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:19,840 Is it? Yeah. 1305 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,600 I, I, I I take that back That that that movie is fine. 1306 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:23,360 What? Would you say now? 1307 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,240 What, what film is representative of cinema? 1308 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,360 I would go with, oh, you know what it is, Carl, I have it. 1309 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:38,160 It's it could be what is the one that we did Japanese 1958 movie. 1310 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,640 It's not that one Samurai, not it's not 7 Samurai, but Ran, ran 1311 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,000 from the same director. Ran to me that is. 1312 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,640 That is epitome, yeah. That's a good one. 1313 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,720 I still need to see ran. Oh, yeah, If you, if, if we, if 1314 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,640 there's a chance to see it on the big screen, yeah, we should 1315 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,480 all go because it's it's it. It really does feel like the 1316 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,960 embodiment of cinema to me. OK, I think yeah, I, I want to 1317 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:04,920 see it. That's the one that he 1318 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,800 storyboarded in watercolours, right? 1319 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,760 Fuck, it is so sumptuous and like it's so dark. 1320 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,920 What happened? Anyways, we're going to get you. 1321 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,080 To see can I, can I do mine? Yeah, yeah, yes, sorry. 1322 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:15,960 Go, go. Sorry. 1323 01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,680 I got really enthusiastic about mine. 1324 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,320 No, it was good. It gave me time to actually 1325 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,560 think of some of mine. And I think, OK, so the ones 1326 01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:28,280 that I, the ones that I have not seen that I'm ashamed to admit, 1327 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,520 yeah, I have never seen a spaghetti western. 1328 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,160 Basically, I've never. Seen any like Clint Eastwood 1329 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,200 anything you're. Fine, like don't worry about. 1330 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,640 It well, but I think you know, like my dad was talking about 1331 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,080 like, I mean, you and he were talking about how great those 1332 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,920 scores are. Yeah, those are movies that I 1333 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,800 should have seen by now. I have not seen them. 1334 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,320 It's. Hard to see everything but yeah. 1335 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,000 Guilty pleasure. Easy answer, I'm a Trekkie. 1336 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:53,040 Yeah, Oh, don't say Part 4. Oh, do you not like Star Trek 4? 1337 01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,320 No one does the. Voyage home with the whales. 1338 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,080 Where it's the 1980s and. Yeah, double dumbass on you. 1339 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:04,320 And the mother from 7th. Yeah, yeah, those are my whales. 1340 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,760 And then spot goes they are not. The hell your whales. 1341 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,360 And then I think my answer for like what movie would I give as 1342 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,080 an example to Aliens as to what cinema is? 1343 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:19,080 Yeah, Aliens, Sorry, we'll get there. 1344 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:23,920 Honestly I do think Alien is like one of I think Alien is a 1345 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,439 five star 100%. Movie, but I will say. 1346 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,960 To answer the question I will say network. 1347 01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:31,319 Yeah, right. That's a good one. 1348 01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:32,600 Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. 1349 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,319 Fuck I need to rewatch that one. Yeah, like, and you could show 1350 01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:37,760 network to aliens and be like, look, this is what we've got 1351 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:38,439 going on. Right. 1352 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,000 Network is one of those ones that has such a big influence on 1353 01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:45,560 network television itself. Or like in the 90s it started to 1354 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,319 fold in like HBOI feel like. Did they have a show called 1355 01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:53,200 Network or something like that? No, Studio 60 on the Sunset 1356 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,000 Strip is very network. There is a HBO and I can't think 1357 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,399 of it with Jeff Daniels. It's it's a new. 1358 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:00,760 Newsroom. Oh yeah. 1359 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,040 Oh, The Newsroom is like Network but bad. 1360 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,600 Yeah, I liked it. I really loved it. 1361 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,240 Shut up, I like The Newsroom, Dev Patel. 1362 01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:11,600 Listen, here's one that I don't think we'll disagree on. 1363 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,319 Yeah, and that's remember when we used to know what movie we 1364 01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:16,399 were going to do next, and we used to tell people at the end 1365 01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:18,600 of the. Episode we weren't able to do 1366 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,279 that unfortunately, but hold the phone though. 1367 01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:23,600 We can do it now. Brian, do you want to tell the 1368 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,880 audience what movie is going to be coming out on our October 1369 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,960 31st Halloween Spooktacular podcast episode? 1370 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,960 Can I get a drum roll please, Aliens? 1371 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,600 Oh, James Cameron in the pitch box. 1372 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,200 Yes, Like, hey, Brian, you know what's an even better movie than 1373 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,359 Alien? And Carl writes. 1374 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,760 Aliens. Aliens. 1375 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,319 Dollar sign. So stay tuned everybody. 1376 01:09:51,319 --> 01:09:54,480 Thanks for listening to Queen's video and we will be back at the 1377 01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:58,680 end of the month with Aliens. 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