1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,320 Hello and welcome to the Arise Church Podcast. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,440 We are so glad you're here and want to thank you for joining us 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,480 today for the audio version of our Sunday morning message. 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,920 We want to invite you to join us in person at our Sunday morning 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,320 celebration every Sunday at 10 AM. 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,000 We are located on Old Jenks Rd. in Apex, NC. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,880 Well, if you have your Bible grab, would you grab it? 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,880 I'm I'm only going to do a few scriptures and then part of what 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:36,520 I felt LED of this morning was to do something that some of you 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,440 would recognize. This called practicing the 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,200 presence. And I've asked Pastor Tim to be 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:47,800 prepared to lead us through a number of just songs that really 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,280 welcome the presence of the Lord. 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,920 And the reason why is I want you to be able to know what David 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,720 called in Psalm 91, the secret place. 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,240 And I want to teach you how to get to the secret place every 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,360 time, all the time. It is a place in the spirit that 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,320 you can be at anytime. You need to get there. 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:16,160 You go there. And the warning though, is once 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:21,240 you know this place, you're going to be ruined for anything 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,640 other than that place. So there's going to be a little 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,920 bit of accountability that rises is because I, I know that place, 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,400 I know how to get there. And I know when we're not there. 24 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,200 And so it's, I get disturbed when I'm like, why are we not 25 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,600 there? Because it's the secret place 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,640 where people are healed or people are set free or people 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,040 have the peace of God. And so I want to just walk 28 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,800 through a few scriptures and then we're going to, you're 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,800 going to see it. We're going to do it together. 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,280 OK, I want to go to John chapter 4, if you would, John chapter 4. 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:57,480 And I just want to start here in this interaction that Jesus had 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,720 with a woman at the well, many of you would know this. 33 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,560 This woman was not the most reputable woman. 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,240 In fact, in fact, she did have a reputation. 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,800 It just wasn't a good reputation. 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,520 And this woman had been married multiple times and Jesus outed 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,480 her and said, and the guy you're with right now, he's not your 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,480 husband. Talk about Jesus read in your 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,080 mail. You know, he's like, he's like 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,160 finding out what's going on with this lady. 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,240 But then they have a discussion about worship. 42 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,600 And this is what I want to look at. 43 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,880 Jesus is having this conversation with a disreputable 44 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,320 woman about worship. I think that's fascinating. 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,200 Jesus wasn't talking to the the high priest of the time about 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,240 this. He was talking about to a woman 47 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:48,320 who was really the least likely to experience the presence of 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,120 God. Let's read it Psalm chapter 4, 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,240 John chapter 4, verse 21. Jesus said to her, woman, 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,800 believe me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this 51 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,120 mountain nor in Jerusalem worship the Father. 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,840 Now this is so important because I'm going to read a couple 53 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,160 scriptures in a minute that show about the place he's talking 54 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:12,000 about that was in Jerusalem, both the temple and a place that 55 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,520 was the mountain, which is includes the Tabernacle of Moses 56 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,240 that had been set up in the Old Testament, which is the only 57 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,880 place you could have really worshipped God was in that 58 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,480 place. But Jesus is saying there's a 59 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,440 time that's right now where you'll you'll not worship there 60 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,520 anymore, but you will worship the Father. 61 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,320 Verse 22. You worship what you do not know 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,760 talking to the woman you worship what you do not know. 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,880 We meaning the Jews know what we worship for salvation is of the 64 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Jews. Verse 23 But the hour is coming 65 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,240 and now is OK. So this was the hour he back 66 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,360 then, but it's truly the hour today in 2026 when the true 67 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:59,040 worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, in 68 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,080 spirit and truth. So where is the place now that 69 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,800 you worship in spirit? It's not a place like Jerusalem 70 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,280 anymore. It's not a Tabernacle of Moses 71 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,480 that's being erected, you know, every few miles. 72 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,600 And they have to set up and they have to get it just right. 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,880 It's no longer that. The place is in spirit and in 74 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,720 truth. That's the place. 75 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,880 And I'll come, I'll come back to what that looks like in a 76 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,280 minute. For the Father is seeking such 77 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,560 to worship him. The Father is seeking such to 78 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,200 worship him. In other words, this whole idea 79 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,040 of worship is being blown open to anybody who will seek Him in 80 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,000 spirit and truth. It used to be just for the 81 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,120 Levites. The Levites were a certain group 82 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,800 tribe of Israel, and they were tasked with doing the worship, 83 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,720 all the service of the Tabernacle and then the temple. 84 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,400 They were the only ones who could. 85 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,240 So in other words, to really do worship, there was only one 86 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,080 family that could do it. That's like if I were in this 87 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,960 church, I said, hey, the the Philippines, they're the only 88 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,240 family in the church that can actually worship God. 89 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,720 That excludes the rest of us. So Jesus is kind of blowing open 90 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,880 the doors of this and he's saying that's no longer the 91 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,000 case. The case now is that everybody 92 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,680 who will worship Him in spirit and truth, they can worship the 93 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,960 Father. Hello, that opened the door for 94 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,560 you and I to be here this morning to worship God. 95 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,040 He's opening the door. He's saying this is the hour. 96 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,840 And then not only that, he says the Father is seeking those 97 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:34,520 people. His eyes are looking. 98 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,960 He's on the lookout for who will be those people who are those 99 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,320 who are worshipping. Verse 24 God is Spirit and those 100 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:47,480 who worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth. 101 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,800 You must worship in spirit and in truth. 102 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,800 So guess what those are? Those are qualifiers to what 103 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,320 worship is. Worship is not whatever you want 104 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,840 it to be. I've been in multiple services, 105 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:03,600 I mean thousands of church services, and I have heard 106 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,480 people say the most kookaboo stuff about worship. 107 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,640 I have seen people and they get out finger paint and they're 108 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,440 like, that's my worship. I'm like, that is not what 109 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,320 worship means. Worship is spirit and truth. 110 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,280 No one wants to say Amen. That's OK because I just stepped 111 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:23,160 on a couple toes. But that's all right because we 112 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,520 live in this day and age. That's like worships whatever I 113 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,280 want it to be. That's baloney. 114 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,880 Worships not whatever you choose for it to be. 115 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,680 God laid out an actual pattern. I'm going to show you in a 116 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,800 minute of what worship ought to be. 117 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,880 One of them is clap your hands. All you people shout unto God 118 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,200 with a voice of triumph. That's part of worship. 119 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,680 It's not a Pentecostal thing. I'm sorry. 120 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,680 If you grew up, you know, in the frozen chosen group of the body 121 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,680 of Christ and you're like, we don't clap our hands. 122 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,320 Well, good news, it doesn't matter what you want. 123 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,280 It's what worship is. Clap your hands, all you people. 124 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:04,440 Shout unto God with the voice of triumph. 125 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,920 So when Pastor Tim was leading us earlier to shout, he's 126 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:13,200 helping us worship and he's helping us get over ourselves 127 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,120 and our predispositions and our insecurities. 128 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,800 And I don't want to be one of those weird people. 129 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,720 And you know, he's helping us. It's like, get out of your 130 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,080 shell. It's fine, you're good. 131 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,240 One of the things he also taught us is to lift your hands in the 132 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,320 sanctuary and bless the Lord. That's part of worship. 133 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,920 That's part of worship. I don't remember reading in 134 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,960 there where somewhere finger painting was a part of that. 135 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,480 I'm sorry. Now, I love art and artwork and 136 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,920 I believe that God will help people do artwork, but to call 137 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,680 that worship, I just, you need to help me find it. 138 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,400 You need to help me find it. Where, where? 139 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Where is your way of doing a thing considered Now worship 140 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,520 just 'cause you chose to do well, I chose to do worship that 141 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,000 way. That's not what the Bible calls 142 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,760 worship. Now, this is important, OK? 143 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Because when we really lean in to worship, it means not 144 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,400 everything else is. It's holy. 145 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,360 OK, so that's a word I'm going to describe here in a minute. 146 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,360 But holy means other than set apart, OK? 147 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:23,520 So it's not that the same thing that I do the other six days of 148 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:28,280 the week is also, you know, worship or whatever I want it to 149 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,840 be. It's there are things that are 150 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,919 set apart that God said that's set apart, that's different. 151 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,320 And once you own that, once you are, you accept that and you 152 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,559 step into it. I'm telling you, you will find 153 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:47,040 the presence of the Lord every time, every time, every time. 154 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,200 And it's important that we, we do this 'cause I don't, I don't 155 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,640 like that. We're teaching the next 156 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,880 generation that worship can be whatever they want it to be. 157 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,600 I don't like that it's not true. It's not true. 158 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:03,520 So I want to look at a couple scriptures out of Exodus. 159 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,680 So if you would grab your Bible and go to Exodus chapter 29. 160 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,360 Are we still friends? Forgive me if you're one of the 161 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,040 finger painters, I love you and you can finger paint all day. 162 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:25,520 Just don't call it worship, OK? Anyways, Exodus chapter 29, 163 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,160 verse 42, This shall be a continual burnt offering 164 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,360 throughout your generations. Exodus 2942 This shall be a 165 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,440 continual burnt offering throughout your generations at 166 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,800 the door of the Tabernacle of meeting, The Tabernacle of 167 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,440 meeting. Notice the name The Tabernacle 168 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:52,640 of what meeting? Who are we meeting God the 169 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Tabernacle of meeting Tabernacle is is tint the tint of meeting 170 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,040 before the Lord. Where if you have a a physical 171 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:07,280 Bible highlight that word circle it where where So there is a 172 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,200 where there's a place I will meet you to speak with you. 173 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:18,280 Verse 43 and there another word to circle highlight. 174 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,120 And there I will meet with the children of Israel and the 175 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,560 Tabernacle shall shall be sanctified by my glory. 176 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,360 Verse 44 So I will consecrate the Tabernacle of meeting and 177 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,360 the altar. I will also consecrate both 178 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Aaron and his sons to minister to me as priests. 179 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,520 I will dwell among the children of Israel and will be their God, 180 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,920 and they shall know that I am the Lord their God who brought 181 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,560 them up out of Egypt, of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell 182 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:51,640 among them. I am the Lord their God. 183 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,720 This is so powerful. There's multiple things here. 184 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,880 Number one, it was always God's intent to be with his people. 185 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,400 So the whole purpose of having a meeting place was to be with 186 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,280 him. Think of that. 187 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,360 The God of the universe said, I will. 188 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,440 I would rather be in a tent just to be with you. 189 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,320 I'll I'll, I'll choose to be in a tent. 190 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:20,640 God who dwells in the heavens, whose whose whose streets are 191 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,200 laid with gold says I'll come to the the dust of the desert in a 192 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,400 tent because I want to dwell with my people. 193 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,320 So everything from from here of how to do that his heart is to 194 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,640 be with us. OK, so when I'm talking about 195 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,360 clap your hands, lift your hands, it becomes easy to do 196 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,040 those things when you know, he's come so low for me. 197 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:52,360 So I can meet him with my very, I think, very humble sacrifice 198 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,560 of praise if it means to lift my hands. 199 00:11:55,560 --> 00:12:00,600 Because what I'm doing is I'm inviting him in and I'm coming 200 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,560 into his presence the way he asked me to. 201 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,720 But when I think about all that he gave up to be with me, it's 202 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,440 so minor. Are you hearing what I'm saying 203 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,280 today? So it's wild that we get into 204 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,240 these like discussions about worship style and you're like, 205 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:22,640 that so misses the point or the the discussions about I don't 206 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,520 like that song. I don't like that style. 207 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,400 I don't like that we, you know, the drums like, you know, I 208 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,160 don't like the, the, the keys or I don't like this. 209 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,800 I don't like the path. And what what you're doing is 210 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:40,680 you're allowing yourself to come out of the spirit realm, which 211 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:43,920 is where Jesus said we worship and now it's all natural. 212 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,120 And then we wonder why the presence of the Lord is nowhere 213 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:52,200 to be found. We have to worship Him in spirit 214 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,640 and in truth, and we do that when we come into His presence 215 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,920 and we lift our hands, we clap our hands and we offer Him 216 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:04,600 ourselves, and it says that He will sanctify us by His glory. 217 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,520 So when He comes in His presence, He cleanses us, He 218 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,280 makes us right. He makes us whole with Him. 219 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,280 This is so powerful. This is so powerful. 220 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,440 He will consecrate us. What does consecrate means? 221 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,080 It means He'll make us set apart. 222 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,160 You'll be different than other people as you worship him. 223 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,480 He says I'll consecrate Aaron, his sons, those that was the the 224 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,040 priesthood. But the New Testament says that 225 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,560 we are now our royal priesthood, a holy nation. 226 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,480 And so now we're that priesthood that he's consecrated, that he's 227 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,640 set apart. And so when we come into 228 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,480 worship, we're coming as a priesthood that God says, I'm 229 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,640 consecrating you. I'm setting you apart. 230 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,280 I'm sanctifying this place. But you know, this stuff doesn't 231 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,160 happen just because we will it to. 232 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,400 There is an intention behind it. It takes so much intention. 233 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,920 The Tabernacle, God was so specific. 234 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,720 He was specific down to the inch, I mean down to the cubit. 235 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,000 It was like, this is exactly how it must be for me to come and 236 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,960 dwell with the people. And you know what? 237 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,880 They did it. Moses made sure it happened and 238 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,920 then David helps his son Solomon build the actual temple. 239 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,760 So they made sure it happened and they did it to the T of what 240 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:31,080 God asked for. Exodus 26, verse 33 says, And 241 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,480 you shall hang the veil from the clasps, then you shall break or 242 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,480 then you shall bring the ark of the testimony in there behind 243 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,160 the veil. The veil shall be a divider for 244 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,560 you between the holy place and the most holy place, and you 245 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,080 shall put the mercy seat upon the ark of the testimony in the 246 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,880 Most Holy. I'm just going to explain this 247 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:57,400 for just a moment because in that Tabernacle, as you came in 248 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,320 and, and another time, I'm going to teach about all the elements 249 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,680 of the Tabernacle because they're still relevant to us 250 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,440 today, but they've been fulfilled through Jesus. 251 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,800 So when, when you saw the Tabernacle, everything was 252 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,400 leading you to what was called the Holy of Holies or the most 253 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,520 Holy place. Everything was about that coming 254 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,240 into the outer courts where there was the sacrifice, the 255 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,760 place where they would literally slaughter and burn the animals 256 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,640 as a sacrifice for the sin of the people. 257 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,720 And then they would go past that. 258 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,360 The priest they were all bloodied up from that was very 259 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,360 messy. It was very costly. 260 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,160 And once they were done with that, they would come to this 261 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,200 basin or this Laver and they would wash themselves. 262 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,800 So they would get clean and then they would change their clothes. 263 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,600 So all of that was preparation just to go into the holy place, 264 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,520 not the most holy, just the holy place. 265 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,320 And once they got in there, there was a lamp stand, there 266 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,040 was a table of showbread, there was the altar of incense. 267 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,760 All of this has imagery. Again, I'll explain another 268 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,280 time. And then there was a veil. 269 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,200 So that if I'm, if I'm looking straight ahead and I've come in, 270 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,800 I've already been washed up. And to my left is the the 271 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,240 Candlestick, to my right is the table of showbread. 272 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,760 And in front of me is the incense. 273 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,920 Just beyond the altar of incense, there's a veil. 274 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:19,360 That's this veil, and only the high priest could go beyond the 275 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:25,120 veil once a year, and he had to do it on one day, a specified 276 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,920 day. He could not go any other day 277 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,760 and he had to go in right with God. 278 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,920 Let me tell you, the presence of God was so real and the most 279 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:41,560 holy place that they would tie a, a string around his foot and 280 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,920 they would put bells at the bottom of his garments so that 281 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:51,000 if he died, the bells stopped ringing and they would just drag 282 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,760 him out of the most holy place. That's how reverent this was. 283 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,680 That's how significant God saw that space. 284 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,040 And in that space was the ark of the covenant. 285 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:11,680 That's not just a, you know, later, yeah. 286 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,560 Raiders of the Lost Ark, what's it called? 287 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:15,240 Indiana Jones. That's it. 288 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,480 This is predates him. OK. 289 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,520 But the Ark of the Covenant was what represented the presence of 290 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,200 God. And truly where that was is 291 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,480 where God's presence was. That wasn't just imagery. 292 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,920 It was real. God said this is the way that I 293 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,480 will go with you is through this Ark of the Covenant. 294 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,160 And it was this massive box and the priest would carry it from 295 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,720 place to place when they were in the Tabernacle and they were 296 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,200 wandering through the wilderness. 297 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:45,920 But here it is. It's there. 298 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:51,720 And this says that the veil shall be a divider for you 299 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,360 between the holy place and the most holy place. 300 00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:56,080 What does that mean? There's a difference. 301 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,320 Now this is important because I feel like most of us, we settle 302 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:07,560 for a certain level of the presence of God, not knowing 303 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:15,200 there is another place where God's presence is so thick, so 304 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:21,160 weighty, so, so there that it is different than all that we've 305 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:26,280 been experiencing so far. See what's in the holy place 306 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,240 before you, you know, go beyond the veil. 307 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,040 What's there is the table of showbread. 308 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,440 It's kind of an example of the word of God that Jesus said, I 309 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,160 am the bread of life. So we're, we're eat of that 310 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,120 bread, we eat of the word of God and most of us, we love that. 311 00:18:40,120 --> 00:18:42,080 Yes, the word of God, the word of God, the word of God. 312 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:46,000 And we need that, that's a requisite to go to the most holy 313 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,360 place. There's the altar of incense. 314 00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:50,360 So there's prayer. We love prayer. 315 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:52,400 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, prayer. 316 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,120 We have the, the, the lampstand, which is really the baptism of 317 00:18:57,120 --> 00:19:00,600 the Holy Spirit and we get filled with the power of God and 318 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,600 the, the oil of the Holy Spirit is our constant feeding of that 319 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,360 light and that lamp. And, and, and most of us live 320 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:12,280 there not knowing all of that is to get you to the most holy 321 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:17,480 place. So you stop over here because 322 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,760 there's a divider. There's a difference and there's 323 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:27,640 a way to come into the most holy place, which Jesus provided for 324 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,960 us. He's now the high priest. 325 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,800 In fact, let me just skip, I'm going to skip a few things 326 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,800 y'all, just for time's sake. So go to, for those doing the 327 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,720 scriptures for me, the very last scripture, Hebrews 4. 328 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,800 Actually, no, Matthew 27. Let me do that one first. 329 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,160 Matthew 27, verse 51. Then behold the veil of the 330 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,120 temple. That veil was torn in two from 331 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:57,400 top to bottom, and the earthquake and the rocks were 332 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,920 split. What do you think that 333 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,200 represents when Jesus died on the cross? 334 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,480 And the moment he died, the earth shook and it split that 335 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:14,520 veil from top to bottom, that there was no longer that divider 336 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:19,800 that you and I now have access to the presence of God to that 337 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,920 most holy place that used to be reserved for just the high 338 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,120 priest. He ripped it from top to bottom. 339 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:32,360 So if he's provided us access, why do we stay on the outside 340 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:38,440 looking in? Why? 341 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:48,320 Why do we stay on the on the in a place where we're content, 342 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:57,720 we're content, we're content. Hebrews 414 says, seeing then 343 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,120 that we have a great high priest who passed through the heavens, 344 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,480 Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. 345 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,160 In other words, what we say, for we do not have a high priest who 346 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,360 cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all 347 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:13,640 points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 348 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Verse 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace 349 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,960 that we might obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of 350 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,360 need. What's the throne of grace? 351 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,920 It's the mercy seat, it's the most holy place. 352 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:37,640 It's the place where you, you come and, and, and you're so 353 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,000 aware of God's presence, you can barely move. 354 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:48,000 Second Chronicles shows this when Solomon built the temple 355 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,000 and he consecrated everything as God had commanded. 356 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,320 And it says in verse 11, a Second Chronicles 5 And Tim, you 357 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,920 can come, please. And it came to pass when the 358 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,640 priest came out of the most holy place, for all the priests who 359 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,280 are present had sanctified themselves without keeping to 360 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,360 their divisions. And the Levites who were 361 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,280 singers. So, you know, I've kind of 362 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,960 explained who all these people are, the Levites, that family 363 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,000 that was, they're the only ones that could worship. 364 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,880 And all those of Asaph and Haman and Jettison with their sons and 365 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,520 their brethren stood at the East End of the altar, clothes in 366 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,560 white linen, having symbols, strength to instruments and 367 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,800 harps, and and with them 120 priests sounding the trumpets. 368 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,120 This is all outside. This is that outer court where 369 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:36,440 the where the altars are. Verse 13. 370 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,720 Indeed, he came to pass one of the trumpeters and singers were 371 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,080 in whereas one to make one sound to be heard and praising and 372 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,120 thanking the Lord. And when they lifted up their 373 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:47,440 voice with the trumpets and symbols and instruments of music 374 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,000 and praise, the Lord, saying, for he is good and His mercy 375 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,000 endorsed forever, that the house, the House of the Lord, 376 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,800 that temple was filled with a cloud. 377 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,480 Many of you have probably heard that as the Shekinah glory, the 378 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,520 manifest glory of God, so that the priest could not continue 379 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,160 ministering because of the cloud for the glory of the Lord filled 380 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:19,840 the House of God. And somehow throughout the ages, 381 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,880 throughout the centuries, I think we've become so distant 382 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,920 from the presence of God that we don't even know the glory hasn't 383 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,960 even descended yet, his presence. 384 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,320 And I just have sensed like that's not necessary. 385 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,040 We can welcome the the glory of God, we can welcome his 386 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,760 presence. We can be in such a way where 387 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,880 his cloud rests here. Will it be a physical cloud? 388 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,960 Probably. I've been in worship spaces 389 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,000 where there was just above the people. 390 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:05,960 Just this cloud, just this mist, just this place in the presence 391 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:11,880 of God. This is why Psalm 91 says in the 392 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,720 secret place of the most high God, I'll abide there. 393 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,000 I'll hang out there, I'll I'll be there. 394 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,120 This is what he was talking about. 395 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:27,440 And one of the things that I'm seeking the Lord for is that we 396 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,720 learn as a church, not just me, not just Pastor Tim, not just a 397 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,360 few of our pastors, but that we as a church know how to go there 398 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:40,920 every time we're together, every time, every time. 399 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,920 And that you would learn how to get there on your own or you 400 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,120 just learn the place of his presence. 401 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,200 So I'm going to teach on this more another time, but I just 402 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:58,800 felt like for some this, this is so important for what you're 403 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,640 going through in life to know the presence of the Lord, to 404 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,720 welcome the presence of the Lord, to invite the presence of 405 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,840 the Lord. And so Tim's going to lead us in 406 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,800 a couple songs. I asked him to not lead heavy on 407 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,760 telling you what to do. But I want us to all start by 408 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,520 standing. And here's what I'm going to 409 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,800 encourage you #1 please don't leave yet. 410 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,600 Some of you are like, I'm out of here, This guy talking about 411 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,680 clouds and I'm out of here. Please don't leave. 412 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,760 Just trust me. The the presence of God 413 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,800 witnesses for himself, you'll know. 414 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:49,880 The second thing is do what the Bible says at times, lift your 415 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:57,480 hands at times, kneel before Him, 'cause your heart to enter 416 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,920 into that place of spirit and truth that Jesus said that the 417 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:09,240 Father is seeking such. So right now in 2026, I'm just 418 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,160 very aware the Father is still seeking those who will worship 419 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,360 in spirit and truth. He's like right now, real time, 420 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,720 He's looking and He will descend on us if we'll worship Him in 421 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:29,120 spirit and truth. So Tim, if you'll start us by 422 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:32,720 just this first song and if everyone if you just lift your 423 00:26:32,720 --> 00:42:31,400 hands and let's sing together. Now, right where you are, just 424 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:36,240 out of your own heart and mouth, just tell the Lord what he means 425 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,520 to you. Just tell him, I love you, Lord. 426 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:40,120 Come on. Right out of your own heart and 427 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,000 mouth. I love you, Lord. 428 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:46,640 I love you, Lord. I love you, Lord. 429 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,640 I honour you, Lord. I worship you, Lord. 430 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,600 I worship you, Lord. Worthy, worthy, worthy is the 431 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:04,040 Lamb who was slain. Worthy, worthy, worthy, worthy 432 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,680 is the Lamb who was slain. Thank you for your blood, Lord, 433 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,960 that cleanse me from all unrighteousness. 434 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:14,760 Thank you for your sacrifice, Lord. 435 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,280 Thank you that you've cleansed me from all sin and all 436 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,840 unrighteousness. Thank you for your mercy, Lord. 437 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,200 If it had not been for your mercy, we would have been 438 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,320 consumed. I give you thanks, Lord. 439 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,080 Oh, yes. That's it. 440 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,200 That's it. That's it. 441 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,560 That's it. That's it. 442 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,240 Your heart. Connect to his heart. 443 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,640 That's the place. That's the place. 444 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,840 That spirit, that's truth. There is no one like you, Lord. 445 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,680 There is no one like you, Lord. No one is like you, Lord. 446 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,840 No one in heaven, no one on earth, and no one under the 447 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,000 earth. There is no one like you, Lord. 448 00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,480 Holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, 449 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,240 holy, holy, holy is the Lord who was and is and is to come. 450 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,320 Holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy are you, Lord. 451 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,960 There is no one like the Lord. There is no one like you, Lord. 452 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:18,200 You are worthy to receive your reward, Lord. 453 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,920 There is no one like you, Lord, No one, no one, no one like you 454 00:44:22,920 --> 00:47:32,280 got Jesus. Matthew or actually Hebrews said 455 00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:37,160 that we can come boldly to the throne of grace. 456 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,360 So if you have a need right now just in this place, the presence 457 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,400 of the Lord, make your request known, tell him God, I need to 458 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,280 you. I need help. 459 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,440 I need help in my inner life and my soul. 460 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,640 I need help in my family. I need help. 461 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,480 I feel lost. Lord, wherever you're at right 462 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,600 now, where you need help, just find help right here in the in 463 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,200 the throne of heaven and ask go ahead all over this trim. 464 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,720 Lord, I need you, I need you, I need you, I need you, I need 465 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,760 you, I need you, I need you, I need you. 466 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,400 I need your help. Lord, I need your help. 467 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,440 Lord, I need your help. Lord, I need your help. 468 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,240 Lord, I need grace, the supernatural power to do your 469 00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:24,760 will. Lord, I need mercy. 470 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,840 Lord, I've done things I ought not to have done, or there's 471 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,160 things I should be doing that I'm not. 472 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:36,080 Mercy, Lord, Son of David, have mercy, mercy, mercy, mercy, 473 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:41,320 mercy, mercy on us. Lord, Oh, I thank you for your 474 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,480 help today. God, thank you for your help for 475 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,320 those that need healing. Lord, I thank you that healing 476 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,960 is the children's bread in this place of your presence. 477 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,800 We just declare healing over every kind of sickness and every 478 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,600 kind of disease. I thank you for your presence 479 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:07,920 and power that is here to heal. If you need healing, you just 480 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,720 make that request known to God. Say Lord, my body needs healing. 481 00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:19,120 I need physical healing. I need my blood to be healed. 482 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:25,200 I need my mind to be healed. I need this organ to be healed, 483 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:31,560 whatever it is. Receive healing in his presence. 484 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:42,890 Strength for today. Glory to God. 485 00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:51,490 Thank you, Lord. Glory to God. 486 00:49:51,570 --> 00:49:53,130 Yeah. Thank you Jesus. 487 00:49:55,410 --> 00:51:18,800 Not for a minute was I forsaken. Lord, I thank you for your word. 488 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,800 I thank you for this, this word that says when your glory comes 489 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,840 on a house, you consecrate it and you sanctify it. 490 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,480 So, Lord, we welcome your glory here. 491 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,400 We welcome your presence, Lord. We welcome the work of your 492 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,160 presence, Lord. We welcome you, Lord. 493 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,560 You are welcome, Lord. You are welcome, Lord. 494 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:44,600 Rest here, Lord, abide here. Dwell here, Lord, this is your 495 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,600 sanctuary. This is your place. 496 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,000 You are here, we're here. We thank you for it. 497 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,240 Lord and Father, I just pray over every person as we go 498 00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:58,240 today. May your presence go with us, go 499 00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:01,000 with us, go with us, go with us to our homes. 500 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,880 May our houses be a place of your presence. 501 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,200 May our house churches, those in these other states, Lord, may 502 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,360 they be filled with your presence even now, Lord. 503 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,200 Even now, Lord, fill those sanctuaries, those, those living 504 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,160 spaces, living rooms with your presence, Lord. 505 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,120 And as we go today, I pray even tomorrow at work and at school, 506 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:36,680 may you go with us, Lord, your presence, go with us in Jesus 507 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,720 name. If you agree, would you say Amen 508 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:42,240 and let's clap our hands in agreement and thank God for his 509 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:48,400 presence and his word. Glory to God, Glory to God. 510 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,560 We want to thank you again for joining us for the Arise Church 511 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,680 podcast. We hope you were encouraged by 512 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,480 what you heard today. You can find 513 00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,280 us.online@arisechurchn-c.com and on Instagram at Arise Church NC. 514 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,680 If you need prayer or support or are interested in learning more 515 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,360 about Arise Church, we encourage you to connect with us online or 516 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,400 in person at our Sunday morning service. 517 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:11,960 Thank you and God bless.