1 00:00:00,420 --> 00:00:02,850 Hey, welcome back to another episode of the podcast. 2 00:00:02,860 --> 00:00:05,830 It has been a minute, so we're. Back. 3 00:00:05,900 --> 00:00:07,110 We're back. Why? 4 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,410 Why? What's? 5 00:00:08,420 --> 00:00:11,220 What's been going on? Well, you and I were both out of 6 00:00:11,230 --> 00:00:13,850 the country, Yeah. And we've been gearing up for 7 00:00:13,860 --> 00:00:17,230 Easter. So this is this is a relaunch as 8 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:19,930 we're working our way during Holy Week toward Easter. 9 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:21,870 And so we thought this would be fitting. 10 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,060 We've been waiting for Easter to relaunch the podcast after you 11 00:00:25,070 --> 00:00:27,410 and I both were away for a little while and. 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,700 I've been sick multiple times. There's, there's been, yeah, 13 00:00:30,780 --> 00:00:33,040 there's, there's, there's been a lot happening, a lot of good 14 00:00:33,050 --> 00:00:36,680 stuff. And, and also we love doing this 15 00:00:36,690 --> 00:00:38,920 and want to continue. And yeah. 16 00:00:38,990 --> 00:00:42,600 So Holy Week leading up to Easter, we thought it would be a 17 00:00:42,610 --> 00:00:45,260 good opportunity to relaunch and we hope you're having a great 18 00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:46,700 week. So a couple of things. 19 00:00:46,710 --> 00:00:50,500 We want this podcast to be a really practical conversation 20 00:00:50,570 --> 00:00:52,790 that follows up on the Sunday service. 21 00:00:52,910 --> 00:00:56,900 And you don't have to have listened to or been at church on 22 00:00:56,910 --> 00:00:59,610 Sunday to see or hear the sermon, but that would be 23 00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:02,550 helpful. This really is a deeper dive 24 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,350 into a few topics that either we've left open, like loops that 25 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,770 we want to close on certain points that were made on Sunday, 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,390 or deeper dive into some of the things that we weren't able to 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,650 actually get through in a sermon on Sunday. 28 00:01:18,660 --> 00:01:22,060 So, you know, two weeks ago, I preached for 52 minutes. 29 00:01:22,300 --> 00:01:25,110 I think I probably still had like that was 1/3 of the 30 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,830 content. And so like any given Sunday 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,310 could be 3 times longer. So really, we want to give you, 32 00:01:31,860 --> 00:01:33,900 hey, listen, you're welcome. 52 minutes was short. 33 00:01:34,750 --> 00:01:38,000 We want to give you an opportunity to kind of jump into 34 00:01:38,010 --> 00:01:40,280 some of these other things that we think are meaningful and 35 00:01:40,290 --> 00:01:45,000 important for walking out our faith and for understanding how 36 00:01:45,010 --> 00:01:48,300 we integrate our faith into everyday life. 37 00:01:48,650 --> 00:01:52,720 That just also don't, you know, necessarily make it into the 38 00:01:52,730 --> 00:01:55,580 final draft of the sermon. So this is not like the second, 39 00:01:55,660 --> 00:01:59,380 you know, best things. It's just the not everything can 40 00:01:59,390 --> 00:02:03,010 preach all the time. So that's kind of #1 #2 we hope 41 00:02:03,020 --> 00:02:05,170 that this encourages you to have conversation. 42 00:02:05,180 --> 00:02:06,890 And so we know that many of you are listening to it. 43 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:08,789 Like maybe you're at the gym and you're on a treadmill, you're on 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,490 a bike or out for a walk, or you're walking a dog driving. 45 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:14,800 Many of you listen during your commutes on your way to and from 46 00:02:14,810 --> 00:02:16,290 work. All of that. 47 00:02:16,300 --> 00:02:19,350 Great. What we hope this is not is just 48 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:24,890 more of us talking at you. We want in some way some of the 49 00:02:24,900 --> 00:02:29,990 questions that we're wrestling out to also encourage you to ask 50 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,870 and discuss your own questions as you wrestle your faith. 51 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,670 So, um, you know, this could be like the drive home after church 52 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,220 on Sunday. What are the things that you're 53 00:02:38,230 --> 00:02:40,470 talking about in the car? What are the questions that come 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,440 up? This could be 1 evening 55 00:02:42,450 --> 00:02:44,410 throughout the week. This could be as your feet hit 56 00:02:44,420 --> 00:02:46,870 the floor and you're thinking about the week ahead on Monday 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,950 morning. We really want these things to 58 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,830 be practical and and helpful to you. 59 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,590 So that's enough welcome. We're in Matthew 21, which is 60 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,810 great. It's good to have a break out of 61 00:02:55,820 --> 00:02:59,070 Luke. It's not Luke, but on Sunday, 62 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,870 and we're going to stick with Matthew for Holy Week, right? 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,600 So we will be, we were in Matthew 21 and then in Matthew 64 00:03:07,610 --> 00:03:08,780 is like the structure is a bit funny. 65 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:11,560 So it kind of there's a whole bunch of chapters in between of 66 00:03:11,570 --> 00:03:13,640 of Jesus talking about various things. 67 00:03:13,750 --> 00:03:15,700 And then it's the passion narrative. 68 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:20,420 So we'll be jumping to what is like Matthew 2627 for Easter, 69 00:03:20,490 --> 00:03:22,650 for Good Friday and then Easter Sunday, so. 70 00:03:22,770 --> 00:03:24,000 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 71 00:03:24,010 --> 00:03:27,180 So Matthew, you're right. Matthew is very interesting in 72 00:03:27,190 --> 00:03:30,920 that there is like the what Matthew includes between Jesus 73 00:03:30,930 --> 00:03:34,920 entrance into Jerusalem and then like, you know, one week later 74 00:03:34,930 --> 00:03:37,600 his crucifixion. Yeah, he's a lot more than any 75 00:03:37,610 --> 00:03:41,410 of the other gospel writers. And you know, we don't have time 76 00:03:41,420 --> 00:03:44,940 to talk about why like so much of that is is really important. 77 00:03:45,130 --> 00:03:48,130 I think the one thing that is helpful to say and that I didn't 78 00:03:48,140 --> 00:03:50,900 say on Sunday and wouldn't have made it into the sermon is that 79 00:03:50,970 --> 00:03:55,200 Matthew is writing predominantly to Jewish audience. 80 00:03:55,270 --> 00:03:58,660 So you have a little bit different of an angle of attack 81 00:03:58,670 --> 00:04:00,730 or approach on the story of Jesus. 82 00:04:00,740 --> 00:04:05,280 What Matthew is really trying to do here is set Jesus up as the 83 00:04:05,290 --> 00:04:07,680 long-awaited and anticipated Messiah. 84 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:12,010 So he's doing it really, like I said, primarily for a Jewish 85 00:04:12,020 --> 00:04:15,990 audience who would have lived with this cultural and religious 86 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,540 and historic expectation and longing of, of the Messiah's 87 00:04:20,550 --> 00:04:23,170 arrival. And so everything that Matthew 88 00:04:23,180 --> 00:04:29,430 is doing is really designed to construct Jesus's story in, in a 89 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,990 way that walks you toward the cross so that you'd say, of 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,470 course, like, of course, this is what would happen. 91 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,990 Jesus shows up and is the Messiah. 92 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,120 Now that happens still in an unexpected way. 93 00:04:42,130 --> 00:04:46,510 That the Messiah would die is not what, you know, the the 94 00:04:46,580 --> 00:04:49,230 anticipation and expectation was. 95 00:04:50,190 --> 00:04:52,970 But really, what Matthew is trying from the beginning of his 96 00:04:52,980 --> 00:04:56,890 book all the way to the end, is constructed in a way that 97 00:04:56,900 --> 00:05:02,590 reveals Jesus to be the Messiah that the people of Israel, like 98 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,410 the biblical Israel, has been waiting. 99 00:05:04,420 --> 00:05:09,130 For, and you really see that, you know, in these two passages, 100 00:05:09,140 --> 00:05:12,010 cause you really dealt with two different narratives 101 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,850 interconnected and, and, and interconnected in a way that I, 102 00:05:15,940 --> 00:05:18,780 you know, I've heard this story countless times since I was a 103 00:05:18,790 --> 00:05:21,550 kid. And what I really appreciated 104 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,470 was that I've, I've never heard them connected in, in the way 105 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,710 that, that, that you spelled out for us this past Sunday. 106 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,470 And, and so, but it really is, you know, Jesus riding on this, 107 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:39,120 on this donkey into Jerusalem. And there's a lot of like, 108 00:05:39,130 --> 00:05:44,080 there's a lot of messianic kingly imagery there. 109 00:05:44,130 --> 00:05:46,630 There's, which is, you know, why we end up singing a lot of songs 110 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,380 about Jesus being crowned as king and things like that. 111 00:05:49,390 --> 00:05:51,940 And, and, and then you go into the temple and then you got 112 00:05:51,950 --> 00:05:56,480 Jesus as this sort of prophetic voice as a, you know, all, but 113 00:05:56,490 --> 00:05:58,550 also as a priest. And, and so that's one thing 114 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,320 that we know we didn't get to touch on in the sermon quite as 115 00:06:01,330 --> 00:06:04,000 much. I'm just noticing this, that 116 00:06:04,010 --> 00:06:09,600 these two passages really personify this idea of Jesus as 117 00:06:09,770 --> 00:06:13,520 he's our, he's our prophet, he's our priest, he's also our king. 118 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:15,600 Yeah, right. And, and that we call that the 119 00:06:15,610 --> 00:06:18,400 threefold office. And and so if there's anything 120 00:06:18,410 --> 00:06:21,920 that you wanted to touch on for that, that maybe feels relevant 121 00:06:21,930 --> 00:06:25,240 for for the listener. Yeah, yeah, I, I mean, I think 122 00:06:25,250 --> 00:06:27,520 it's helpful. Like This is why this is like 123 00:06:27,530 --> 00:06:29,960 theology matters and like the history of the church matters. 124 00:06:29,970 --> 00:06:34,480 And Christians for a lot longer than any of us who are listening 125 00:06:34,490 --> 00:06:39,490 have been alive, have have spoken about Jesus in his roles, 126 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:44,950 like what does Jesus accomplish as or through the lens of, I 127 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,490 should say this threefold office. 128 00:06:46,540 --> 00:06:51,190 So Jesus is prophet, Jesus is priest and Jesus is king. 129 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:55,590 And it's, it is very rare that you see Jesus functioning in 130 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,110 each of these or all of these offices together in one passage. 131 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:06,630 And that's why I love holding those really 22 stories that we 132 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,770 typically read together because at the beginning, Jesus is 133 00:07:10,780 --> 00:07:14,260 welcomed as king. You know, obviously we talked 134 00:07:14,270 --> 00:07:19,120 about how that's a, a king that was showing up in unexpected 135 00:07:19,130 --> 00:07:22,060 ways, but king nonetheless. So he's king and then he's 136 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:26,200 declared to be prophet. And then if you end there, so if 137 00:07:26,210 --> 00:07:29,670 you know many of I think the readings and many, many years, 138 00:07:29,740 --> 00:07:34,310 you just simply end at 11. So the crowd's answer, this is 139 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,750 Jesus the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee. 140 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,830 And you go, OK, done great, done and dusted. 141 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:44,250 But a, you don't really see what it means for Jesus to be 142 00:07:44,260 --> 00:07:45,930 prophet. So he's declared to be prophet 143 00:07:45,940 --> 00:07:47,950 and they're like, well, did the crowds just get it wrong then? 144 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,870 Are they, are they completely, 100% wrong in declaring Jesus to 145 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,500 be a prophet? And no, they're not like they're 146 00:07:54,510 --> 00:07:56,510 not wrong in saying that he's profit. 147 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,910 They just, it's a, it's a smaller portion of the larger 148 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,090 identity of, of Jesus. So it's to miss the full 149 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:06,870 picture. But he also doesn't act as 150 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,960 profit if you, if you cut it off there. 151 00:08:09,060 --> 00:08:11,880 So you've got to continue reading at least into the temple 152 00:08:11,890 --> 00:08:14,020 courts to see Jesus begin to act as profit. 153 00:08:14,030 --> 00:08:16,740 Well, what does a prophet do? A prophet was chosen by God to 154 00:08:16,750 --> 00:08:20,580 speak judgment to the people on behalf of God and often, so 155 00:08:20,590 --> 00:08:23,080 often against the religious systems. 156 00:08:23,290 --> 00:08:26,600 So here is Jesus, the people declared to be profit. 157 00:08:26,610 --> 00:08:29,000 I think I said as like an aside in the sermon. 158 00:08:29,570 --> 00:08:31,860 Jerusalem has a long history of killing its profits. 159 00:08:31,910 --> 00:08:34,600 So to be named a prophet in Jerusalem is like, no, no, no, 160 00:08:34,610 --> 00:08:37,539 like don't call me that. Call me the king and call me a 161 00:08:37,549 --> 00:08:39,539 priest and that's fine. Thank you very much. 162 00:08:39,549 --> 00:08:42,100 Don't call me a profit because of profit is gonna be like you. 163 00:08:42,110 --> 00:08:46,370 Jerusalem kills its profits. But again, you know, benefit of 164 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:48,200 hindsight. But we're going to read into 26 165 00:08:48,210 --> 00:08:53,480 and then 27 and through to 28. We know that Jesus is going to 166 00:08:53,490 --> 00:08:57,420 be put to death just outside of Jerusalem, and Jerusalem will 167 00:08:57,430 --> 00:09:00,140 once again kind of live into that identity of killing its 168 00:09:00,150 --> 00:09:04,300 profit. But he really acts as prophet by 169 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:09,270 entering the temple. And it's there that we see him 170 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,590 really kind of deliver this judgment on the religious 171 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,010 institution as it was functioning. 172 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,790 And then finally, when the blind, the lame come to him and 173 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,870 heals them, now he's acting as priest. 174 00:09:22,220 --> 00:09:26,390 So we see him acting in each of these three offices as well. 175 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,040 So he he arrives as king. And that's where we get like 176 00:09:30,050 --> 00:09:33,370 Isaiah and Zechariah, these, these prophecies about how the 177 00:09:33,380 --> 00:09:35,370 Messiah would arrive. He would be the King. 178 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:39,980 Timothy Colour has this great line for Jesus. 179 00:09:39,990 --> 00:09:43,370 He says that Jesus is the final king of the world. 180 00:09:44,170 --> 00:09:45,200 I love that. Right. 181 00:09:45,210 --> 00:09:48,220 So it's like this is like, you know, Lord of the Rings, the 182 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:53,060 last sequence in the Return of the King where Aragorn is like 183 00:09:53,130 --> 00:09:55,030 he's sitting on the throne. Yes. 184 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,490 Well, yeah. If you haven't seen it by now, 185 00:09:56,500 --> 00:09:58,000 I'm sorry. I mean, I guess, listen, like, 186 00:09:58,010 --> 00:09:59,870 my kids are starting to watch their stuff, so I gotta be more 187 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:00,580 careful. Yeah. 188 00:10:00,590 --> 00:10:06,330 Not Lord of the Rings yet, but you know, it, it really is like 189 00:10:06,340 --> 00:10:09,610 we, we have these, we have these books and, and movies and, and 190 00:10:09,620 --> 00:10:13,010 we've created these stories that talk about this, you know, final 191 00:10:13,020 --> 00:10:17,450 return of, of, of a righteous king who will rule the people 192 00:10:17,540 --> 00:10:21,590 and there will be celebration and glad like Jesus arrives as 193 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,990 the final king of the world. And that's really found in the 194 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,300 title Son of David. So when the children are saying 195 00:10:29,310 --> 00:10:31,900 hosanna to the son of David and he's like, Yep, that's me. 196 00:10:31,970 --> 00:10:34,460 What he's he's declaring himself to be the final king of the 197 00:10:34,470 --> 00:10:36,420 world. Like this is the king to come 198 00:10:36,430 --> 00:10:42,420 back and deliver the world. So he rides into into Jerusalem, 199 00:10:42,430 --> 00:10:46,020 he's acting as king and then he enters the temple, he's acting 200 00:10:46,030 --> 00:10:52,290 as prophet and then he fills the temple acting as priest. 201 00:10:52,340 --> 00:10:54,940 So we see him moving all through the, you know, these, these 202 00:10:54,950 --> 00:10:57,470 three things. And there's something worth just 203 00:10:57,560 --> 00:11:01,690 worth noting as the prophet that he does, I would say like the 204 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:05,710 most sort of like profit like thing he does is is when he 205 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,030 overturns the tables. Because it feels like when you 206 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,610 read through some of the some of the ways the profits acted in, 207 00:11:13,620 --> 00:11:17,450 you know, like they were feisty. They did some, there was 208 00:11:17,460 --> 00:11:21,100 physicality to the way that they often went about their, their, 209 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,960 their itinerant ministry quite often, right. 210 00:11:22,970 --> 00:11:26,460 You think of Elijah and and Jeremiah, you know, Jeremiah 211 00:11:26,470 --> 00:11:29,230 particularly who would like, you know, lie down on that, you 212 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,980 know, on that bench or whatever for however, however many long 213 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:34,480 until, you know, they repented and that kind of thing. 214 00:11:35,270 --> 00:11:37,860 And so there's, I mean, there's something very obviously very 215 00:11:37,870 --> 00:11:41,040 physical about about what Jesus is doing here. 216 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,040 And I think it's just worth noting that Jesus is doing this 217 00:11:46,210 --> 00:11:50,980 and we're not Jesus. And sometimes, you know, 218 00:11:50,990 --> 00:11:54,010 sometimes like maybe just asking the question, you know, like, 219 00:11:54,020 --> 00:11:56,490 are there times, is there, is there something for us to take 220 00:11:56,500 --> 00:12:00,770 away from the way that Jesus goes about kind of cleansing 221 00:12:00,780 --> 00:12:07,250 this, this temple here? Like it's, it's a dangerous 222 00:12:07,260 --> 00:12:09,240 line. It's a dangerous line to kind of 223 00:12:09,250 --> 00:12:11,780 like, on one hand it's like, yes, this is what Jesus does. 224 00:12:11,790 --> 00:12:15,320 We're not Jesus. But also, are there times when 225 00:12:15,330 --> 00:12:18,460 when we might be called to do something similar? 226 00:12:19,790 --> 00:12:24,150 There's so much there. So like baked into that baked 227 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:29,120 into that question is the assumption that that the office 228 00:12:29,130 --> 00:12:34,070 of profit is still something that exists and is is used by 229 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,770 the Holy Spirit. And I would. 230 00:12:35,780 --> 00:12:38,430 Say Christians are divided over, but I think we would generally 231 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:39,920 say yes, yeah. Absolutely right. 232 00:12:39,930 --> 00:12:46,870 So, you know, nobody, nobody acts as king in the way Jesus 233 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,010 does, nobody acts as prophet in the way Jesus does and and 234 00:12:50,020 --> 00:12:51,870 nobody acts as priest in the way Jesus does. 235 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,070 And, and yet, you know, we talk about. 236 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,130 So to remove the profit for a second, we talk about the 237 00:12:56,140 --> 00:13:01,450 priesthood of all believers and in well, in, in, in Peter, 238 00:13:01,460 --> 00:13:05,390 there's, there's passages that talk about our identity. 239 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,240 And so listener, like if, if you're a follower of Jesus, like 240 00:13:08,250 --> 00:13:12,970 the priesthood of all believers means that you are called and 241 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:18,840 even equipped and, uh, challenged toward acting as 242 00:13:19,070 --> 00:13:24,420 priest. So in, in. 243 00:13:24,430 --> 00:13:28,180 Yeah. So in first Peter, your holy 244 00:13:28,190 --> 00:13:32,540 priesthood, right, royal people, holy priesthood chosen by God to 245 00:13:32,550 --> 00:13:34,920 declare his praises. So, and you know, that's a, 246 00:13:34,930 --> 00:13:39,560 that's a very, that's a grant version paraphrase, so don't 247 00:13:39,570 --> 00:13:44,580 quote it, you know, so, so, yeah, to, to go back to your 248 00:13:44,590 --> 00:13:50,580 profit question, I think we need to be careful in noticing a, a 249 00:13:50,590 --> 00:13:52,940 few things in the way Jesus does this. 250 00:13:52,990 --> 00:13:57,420 Number one, I think we tend to and, and this is where like the 251 00:13:57,530 --> 00:14:01,220 the picture or like your image of what Jesus is doing is it can 252 00:14:01,230 --> 00:14:04,800 be really powerful. There's nothing here that that 253 00:14:04,810 --> 00:14:07,580 says in Matthew's Gospel that Jesus is angry. 254 00:14:07,850 --> 00:14:11,060 I think sometimes we picture Jesus being angry and doing this 255 00:14:11,070 --> 00:14:13,800 like he's doing it, almost like he's flipping tables and there's 256 00:14:13,810 --> 00:14:17,180 an anger about him. And we often point to passages 257 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:19,810 like this and say, well, Jesus was righteously angry and 258 00:14:19,820 --> 00:14:21,650 therefore. Yes, yeah, yeah. 259 00:14:21,660 --> 00:14:23,850 And, and so I think it's important to notice, like in 260 00:14:23,860 --> 00:14:27,870 Matthews version of this, Jesus entered the temple courts and he 261 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,870 drove out all who were buying and selling there. 262 00:14:29,940 --> 00:14:33,060 He overturned the tables of the money changers, the benches of 263 00:14:33,070 --> 00:14:36,140 those who were selling doves. And he says it is written, my 264 00:14:36,150 --> 00:14:38,210 house will be called a, a House of prayer. 265 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,070 But you are making into a den of robbers. 266 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:45,650 Now, is it, is it a stretch to think that, that there's a 267 00:14:45,660 --> 00:14:49,770 motion involved here? No, but it's very careful to not 268 00:14:49,780 --> 00:14:53,770 say that Jesus is angry and I think it's important to not 269 00:14:53,780 --> 00:14:57,490 ascribe to him emotions that are not there. 270 00:14:57,580 --> 00:14:59,750 Like, well, I would feel angry if I was in Jesus issues. 271 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,010 Yeah, sure. I I do a lot of things poorly if 272 00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:06,270 I was in Jesus's shoes, right. So, so I think like just a a 273 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,600 word of caution, but then BA word of no, I do actually 274 00:15:09,610 --> 00:15:13,130 believe that the Holy Spirit uses people to speak into 275 00:15:13,140 --> 00:15:18,310 moments and groups of people into moments in prophetic ways. 276 00:15:18,380 --> 00:15:21,030 Now, does it accomplish the same thing as the Old Testament 277 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:21,590 prophets? No. 278 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,880 Does it accomplish same thing as Jesus in his prophetic role? 279 00:15:24,890 --> 00:15:26,110 Absolutely not. No. 280 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:31,840 But is there still a reason for within this world, people to 281 00:15:31,850 --> 00:15:35,340 speak a word of God into what is broken in a way that would lead 282 00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:39,000 to it being restored and made, you know, righteous? 283 00:15:39,010 --> 00:15:42,560 And and I don't wanna be like, that's not like to say make 284 00:15:42,570 --> 00:15:45,320 everything overly righteous and legalistic. 285 00:15:45,330 --> 00:15:47,800 But I'm saying, you know, is there is there a need in the 286 00:15:47,810 --> 00:15:52,140 broken world in which we live for Christians to speak what is 287 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:56,950 true and right and good so that there would be more life and 288 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,500 goodness and grace and hope and peace? 289 00:15:59,510 --> 00:16:01,450 Yes, absolutely. And that at the end of the day 290 00:16:01,460 --> 00:16:04,740 is always what a prophet does. So prophets role is to speak a 291 00:16:04,750 --> 00:16:07,320 word of judgment over a situation. 292 00:16:07,330 --> 00:16:09,620 So they they're their job is to speak on behalf of God. 293 00:16:09,630 --> 00:16:10,850 They were called by God to speak. 294 00:16:10,860 --> 00:16:14,820 So you better be pretty sure, yes, like do a lot of prayer and 295 00:16:14,830 --> 00:16:17,200 thought and work and then, you know, check with other people 296 00:16:17,210 --> 00:16:19,800 and check with more other people and you know, maybe even a third 297 00:16:19,810 --> 00:16:22,020 group of other people. Like, you know, there's a good 298 00:16:22,030 --> 00:16:27,830 way to discern, but called to speak something into the world, 299 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,710 usually a word of judgment. But the net result is always 300 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,650 peace with God. It might take a while, right? 301 00:16:35,660 --> 00:16:38,410 So we see this with the exile and with the prophetic word 302 00:16:38,420 --> 00:16:41,530 that's spoken over Israel. Like you'll be driven out of of 303 00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:45,130 your land. Ultimately, though, it's so that 304 00:16:45,140 --> 00:16:48,750 you can be brought back into peace with God. 305 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,330 So I think that's the other thing is, yeah, it is that still 306 00:16:52,340 --> 00:16:55,030 necessary? Yes, the outcome. 307 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:58,540 So you better be crystal clear and sure and certain that that's 308 00:16:58,550 --> 00:17:00,960 the outcome that we're working toward because I think again, 309 00:17:00,970 --> 00:17:03,760 just naturally, right, we can kind of read our own things into 310 00:17:03,770 --> 00:17:06,400 it and go, well, Jesus did this. I don't like what's going on 311 00:17:06,410 --> 00:17:09,200 over here, so I'm gonna go flip some tables like we say, right 312 00:17:09,470 --> 00:17:14,680 And like, Hey, back up a not Jesus be like what he's doing 313 00:17:14,690 --> 00:17:21,579 here is to draw the temple back into its like Kingdom purpose, 314 00:17:21,710 --> 00:17:23,839 right. So it had been taken out of 315 00:17:23,849 --> 00:17:30,280 alignment and was used in ways that profited on the backs of 316 00:17:30,290 --> 00:17:35,130 those who are the most poor. And so it really was operating 317 00:17:35,140 --> 00:17:39,430 in an unjust manner. What Jesus does here is speak 318 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:45,750 prophetically in a way that draws it back into its Kingdom 319 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,110 purpose. So what I'm, what I'm 320 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,830 envisioning is, is that there are going to be followers of 321 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:58,010 Jesus who rightfully are, are looking at a, a situation in, in 322 00:17:58,020 --> 00:18:01,380 our, in our world, perhaps even in their, in their church or 323 00:18:01,390 --> 00:18:05,500 their city, their country, and are saying like, Hey, this isn't 324 00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:07,260 right. Yeah, this isn't right. 325 00:18:07,270 --> 00:18:10,800 And, and there is like they're moved to action in some way. 326 00:18:10,870 --> 00:18:12,840 And I think there actually is something beautiful about that, 327 00:18:12,850 --> 00:18:17,040 that, that when we see something that is unjust, that God stirs 328 00:18:17,050 --> 00:18:19,300 in our hearts to say or do something about it. 329 00:18:19,410 --> 00:18:22,540 Not in a rogue, you know, because I think that's what you 330 00:18:22,550 --> 00:18:24,580 talking about with, you know, community and what not. 331 00:18:24,650 --> 00:18:28,080 I'm not just going in some rogue fashion like you're not going to 332 00:18:29,490 --> 00:18:33,120 like like there are what I what I'm, what I'm picturing is being 333 00:18:33,130 --> 00:18:36,950 like a potentially bad way to go about it would be like, hey, 334 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,680 something's happening in the church service that someone 335 00:18:38,690 --> 00:18:40,470 doesn't like and they're just gonna interrupt it. 336 00:18:40,540 --> 00:18:41,830 Right. Yeah, that's probably not gonna 337 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,320 go so well. Probably not gonna go so well, 338 00:18:43,330 --> 00:18:46,010 Yeah. I mean, there could be a 339 00:18:46,020 --> 00:18:49,260 circumstance where there is something so completely unjust 340 00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:52,850 happening that that maybe, maybe that ought to happen. 341 00:18:52,860 --> 00:18:56,630 But like, you better be like real darn sure. 342 00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:58,550 Yeah. You know, anyway. 343 00:18:58,740 --> 00:19:01,330 Yeah. So, OK, just to kind of name the 344 00:19:01,340 --> 00:19:04,150 thing which I think you're talking around in in some sense. 345 00:19:04,980 --> 00:19:10,480 So Jesus entrance, there's, there's, I know I wanna be 346 00:19:10,490 --> 00:19:13,750 careful with my words here, but generally I always want to be 347 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,620 careful with my words, hopefully, but you know, more so 348 00:19:16,630 --> 00:19:20,750 with what I'm about to say. So Jesus enters Jerusalem and 349 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,000 he's declared to be king. So people are saying, you know, 350 00:19:24,010 --> 00:19:25,820 shouting hosanna to the son of David. 351 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:27,340 Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. 352 00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:29,780 Like they are ascribing kingship to Jesus. 353 00:19:29,790 --> 00:19:32,080 That's a political statement. Yeah, right. 354 00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:36,580 So, so much so that people in the city are stirred up. 355 00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:39,620 We talked a little bit about how that word actually means 356 00:19:39,630 --> 00:19:42,140 shocked. Like it, it's not like, it's not 357 00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:43,680 like they're stirred emotionally. 358 00:19:43,690 --> 00:19:47,700 It's not like they're kind of feeling like, oh, cool. 359 00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:52,360 Like this is like how nice and. And like, they're not like, it's 360 00:19:52,370 --> 00:19:55,090 not like a happy, sappy, emotional, like that was so 361 00:19:55,100 --> 00:19:58,330 moving, right? Like they're shocked and, and 362 00:19:58,420 --> 00:20:01,950 even a little bit afraid. Like that's the, the degree to 363 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,770 which this word I think can be missed sometimes. 364 00:20:05,780 --> 00:20:08,840 So they're stirred, they're stirred up in some some 365 00:20:08,850 --> 00:20:11,740 translations. And so, so much so they go out 366 00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:14,300 and they ask, who is this? Like, who's this guy who's 367 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:16,710 coming in who people are declaring to be king? 368 00:20:17,620 --> 00:20:22,310 What's going on? And that is a political move. 369 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:24,550 Hmm. And Jesus embraces it. 370 00:20:25,180 --> 00:20:31,550 Now, what happens then is, I think, a religious move. 371 00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:37,260 He moves into the temple and I think it's important to name 372 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:39,900 that for Jesus. These are not different things 373 00:20:39,910 --> 00:20:46,630 happening like so we, you know, in the West modern, whatever 374 00:20:46,930 --> 00:20:50,980 sort of current contemporary society has worked very hard to 375 00:20:50,990 --> 00:20:53,140 separate church and state, right? 376 00:20:53,150 --> 00:20:55,220 Right. So it's baked into the American 377 00:20:55,230 --> 00:20:56,910 Constitution. It's it's. 378 00:20:57,270 --> 00:21:00,640 Not it's. Not in Canada, but but we we 379 00:21:00,650 --> 00:21:03,560 generally try to have fairly strong lines. 380 00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:05,280 Functionally. Functionally, that's a 381 00:21:05,290 --> 00:21:07,370 completely different topic for another day. 382 00:21:07,380 --> 00:21:09,570 Yes. How like we don't have 383 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,650 technically separation of church and state, but functionally 384 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,730 vastly more. And in the states there's 385 00:21:14,740 --> 00:21:17,250 technical like constitutional separation of church and state, 386 00:21:17,340 --> 00:21:20,510 way less separation like, right. It's, it's interesting how those 387 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,570 things got different, different, different conversation for 388 00:21:22,580 --> 00:21:26,170 another day. But you know, so in general we 389 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,390 say, you know, separation of these two things. 390 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,890 We in everyday language use language like the sacred and the 391 00:21:31,900 --> 00:21:35,290 secular or the holy and the mundane. 392 00:21:35,340 --> 00:21:37,400 And what we're saying is that there are certain things in 393 00:21:37,410 --> 00:21:40,000 life, they're wholly certain things that are religious, 394 00:21:40,050 --> 00:21:44,420 certain things that are of God and spiritual and other things 395 00:21:44,430 --> 00:21:48,940 that are not, that are mundane, that are secular, that are not 396 00:21:49,030 --> 00:21:53,540 wholly or not religious, that that have, you know, we, we 397 00:21:53,550 --> 00:21:57,700 speak about these two realms or two realities that are 398 00:21:57,710 --> 00:22:02,180 completely separated. And, you know, I think that's 399 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:05,310 the general consensus about how life should be. 400 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,160 There's internal life that you can have your own belief and 401 00:22:08,170 --> 00:22:12,340 your own belief system, but publicly you can't allow that 402 00:22:12,350 --> 00:22:14,120 belief system to impact anything you do. 403 00:22:14,130 --> 00:22:17,100 You have to act differently in public than you do in private. 404 00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:20,540 Like these are ways that I think they're just baked into modern 405 00:22:20,550 --> 00:22:24,880 society for Jesus, A those distinctions never existed. 406 00:22:25,090 --> 00:22:29,000 So to say that something was secular isn't a thing. 407 00:22:29,290 --> 00:22:31,860 To say that something is sacred isn't a thing. 408 00:22:31,910 --> 00:22:34,460 And we don't see it baked into his theology either. 409 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:41,440 So immediately what we see is this, this, this marriage of a 410 00:22:41,450 --> 00:22:44,110 political statement about Jesus and a religious statement about 411 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:45,560 Jesus. Jesus is the king. 412 00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:47,620 He's the intimacy, Kelly's language. 413 00:22:47,630 --> 00:22:49,680 He's the final king of the world. 414 00:22:49,730 --> 00:22:51,880 Sounds kind of like the final boss in Mariota. 415 00:22:51,890 --> 00:22:55,460 But like, anyways, it's like he's the final king of the 416 00:22:55,470 --> 00:22:58,160 world. And what that means is that he 417 00:22:58,170 --> 00:23:03,100 is the king over everything, over all that we as humans would 418 00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:06,190 name political, and over all that we as humans would name 419 00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:10,280 secular, and overall that we as humans the name religious or 420 00:23:10,290 --> 00:23:15,800 sacred or holy. And he brings all of it 421 00:23:15,810 --> 00:23:18,160 together. So he's making a political 422 00:23:18,170 --> 00:23:19,480 claim. He's making a political 423 00:23:19,490 --> 00:23:22,570 statement, which in many ways is why he was crucified, because 424 00:23:22,580 --> 00:23:27,540 this is a political claim. His kingship is an affront to 425 00:23:27,610 --> 00:23:31,320 King Herod, but more so to Caesar, right? 426 00:23:31,370 --> 00:23:34,970 Caesar is in Rome like Caesar is is God. 427 00:23:35,620 --> 00:23:39,130 And so for Jesus to come in and make this political claim is 428 00:23:39,140 --> 00:23:41,270 also he's also making a religious claim, right. 429 00:23:41,500 --> 00:23:45,730 And to make a religious claim like to to say, hey, I'm going 430 00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:48,590 to go straight to the temple to the heart of religion. 431 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,990 What he's saying is that all of this matters and all of it is 432 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,270 broken and all of it needs to be redeemed. 433 00:23:57,500 --> 00:24:00,530 And that's what this that's what Holy Week is about. 434 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:06,290 So for us, the challenge is we can take this sideways in so 435 00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:08,700 many different. Ways I'm in, I'm imagining all 436 00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:08,890 of. It. 437 00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:12,140 So let me name two of them. Yeah, one, we can buy into the 438 00:24:12,150 --> 00:24:16,670 separation and go wholesale in that direction. 439 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,590 Yeah. And say, you know, my religion 440 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,190 is my religion, your religion is your religion. 441 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,590 And fine, if we can talk nice, great. 442 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,050 But like, we're gonna stay so far out of the public. 443 00:24:25,060 --> 00:24:28,460 Sphere little boxes, yeah. And like, you know, don't let 444 00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:31,690 like I'm not gonna let my religion impact my politics. 445 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:37,010 And I think to do that is to air like I think that's an error to 446 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,140 go to the degree that you say, you know, everybody just hold 447 00:24:41,150 --> 00:24:43,490 your own internal beliefs will all just try to get along in 448 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:48,540 public, you know, anyways, I think you can see where that 449 00:24:48,550 --> 00:24:50,080 goes. Now. 450 00:24:50,090 --> 00:24:52,380 There's another error, though, on the other side of the 451 00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:58,860 pendulum, which is to say we are going to take back church and 452 00:24:58,870 --> 00:25:05,640 state for God, and we are going to create finally a good 453 00:25:05,650 --> 00:25:08,620 Christian nation where everybody is saved. 454 00:25:09,210 --> 00:25:12,300 And so you go like the, the, the, the Christian, like the, 455 00:25:12,450 --> 00:25:15,780 the, the caricaturized, like Christian nationalist, right, 456 00:25:15,910 --> 00:25:18,640 who, who does the like? We're taking back our country 457 00:25:18,650 --> 00:25:21,400 like for God. And we don't care what that 458 00:25:21,410 --> 00:25:23,600 looks like or how many people we hurt along the way. 459 00:25:23,610 --> 00:25:26,160 If you're not with us, you're against us in a way we like. 460 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,280 And the question is always, well, don't you want your 461 00:25:28,290 --> 00:25:30,800 country to uphold Christian values? 462 00:25:30,910 --> 00:25:38,210 Yes, yes, and also we live in a society and also like, so I 463 00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:40,890 mean, the, the one thing though, is that what kind of Christian 464 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:42,800 values are we talking? You know, because when I see 465 00:25:42,810 --> 00:25:47,170 what Jesus does here as he, as he goes through this movement 466 00:25:47,180 --> 00:25:50,770 of, of, yes, he's been both religious and political the 467 00:25:50,780 --> 00:25:55,350 whole way along here. He's not trying to reenact or 468 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:59,530 he's not trying to reinstate Israel's status as, as a 469 00:25:59,540 --> 00:26:01,990 sovereign nation. He's not trying to do that. 470 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,830 He's not trying to clamour for for power. 471 00:26:06,850 --> 00:26:12,180 Yeah, Jesus comes and he comes to surf and he serves all the 472 00:26:12,190 --> 00:26:14,370 way to his death. Hmm. 473 00:26:14,410 --> 00:26:19,280 And and and to me that is like, and maybe I'm jumping the gun 474 00:26:19,290 --> 00:26:23,440 here, but like it feel it feels like that is what is so often 475 00:26:23,450 --> 00:26:27,440 missing from these conversations is like, hey, like, yeah, 476 00:26:27,450 --> 00:26:31,200 Christian values fantastic. Like let's continue to to serve 477 00:26:31,210 --> 00:26:34,120 the poor. Well, let's, let's continue to, 478 00:26:34,580 --> 00:26:38,870 let's continue to build systems that honor God in the way that 479 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,790 we, in the way that we spend our resources and whatnot. 480 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,150 Anyway, I know that there's a million different ways we could 481 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,990 go in that direction. But I just think like just 482 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,570 noticing that Jesus goes about political power and and 483 00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:57,750 religious power in such a different way than our human 484 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,690 minds tends to want it to go. Yeah, absolutely. 485 00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:04,910 So, you know, I, I think I want to read from Philippians in a 486 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,830 minute because I think that that's, I think that's just a 487 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,150 helpful, a healthful framing. Yeah. 488 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,390 Right on how Jesus acted. Yeah. 489 00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:16,710 And so like just to to bolster what you're saying about 490 00:27:16,780 --> 00:27:23,710 embracing like Christ's attitude and strategy of becoming a 491 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,280 servant in Philippians. So I'm reading from Philippians 492 00:27:28,290 --> 00:27:33,040 2 says it's starting in verse 5. Inner relationships with one 493 00:27:33,050 --> 00:27:37,160 another have the same mindset as Christ Jesus, who, being in very 494 00:27:37,170 --> 00:27:39,900 nature God, did not consider equality with God something to 495 00:27:39,910 --> 00:27:43,700 be used to his own advantage. That's where we go wrong all the 496 00:27:43,710 --> 00:27:44,640 time, right? Yeah. 497 00:27:44,710 --> 00:27:47,370 So did not consider equality with God something to be used to 498 00:27:47,380 --> 00:27:49,600 his own advantage. Rather, he made himself nothing, 499 00:27:49,610 --> 00:27:52,760 taking on the very nature of a servant being made in human 500 00:27:52,770 --> 00:27:55,240 likeness and being found in appearance as a man, he humbled 501 00:27:55,250 --> 00:27:59,080 himself and becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross. 502 00:27:59,870 --> 00:28:08,090 And so we like we wrestle with that not considering equality 503 00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:10,630 with God something to be used to his own advantage. 504 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,690 I think that perpetually the what human brokenness and sin 505 00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:20,330 points us and leads us toward is that piece using things to our 506 00:28:20,340 --> 00:28:25,090 own advantage. Yes, and so I, I do think that 507 00:28:25,140 --> 00:28:30,270 the the best route for the Christian is to embrace this 508 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,220 same mindset as Jesus in becoming a servant. 509 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:40,150 Now, does that mean that you should not care about things 510 00:28:40,220 --> 00:28:43,080 politically from a Christian perspective? 511 00:28:43,090 --> 00:28:45,440 No, absolutely not. I think I got that right. 512 00:28:45,630 --> 00:28:51,350 You should absolutely care. We need more Christians who know 513 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,950 what they believe and why they believe it, engaging in the 514 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,830 things of politics, the public sphere of life because of their 515 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:09,470 belief in Jesus. But what we also need is more, 516 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,930 more people not using positions of power to their own advantage, 517 00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:17,350 which we also see, you know, wrestling out. 518 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,870 So I think that's like that's, that's a hard thing to do. 519 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,190 You can only do that, you know, You certainly can only do that 520 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,880 with community and accountability and people around 521 00:29:26,890 --> 00:29:29,520 you like you. You can't do that on your own. 522 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,250 But I do think that it's there's a way forward for Christians to 523 00:29:34,260 --> 00:29:37,710 care deeply about the things that are going on in our world 524 00:29:38,020 --> 00:29:41,030 because otherwise, like man, otherwise I just, I see and I 525 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,020 hear and we talk to people about this all the time. 526 00:29:44,030 --> 00:29:47,880 I see people go, I care so deeply about what is happening 527 00:29:48,030 --> 00:29:52,340 and I can do so little. I'm exhausted all the time. 528 00:29:52,410 --> 00:29:54,700 So I'm just going to ignore all of it. 529 00:29:54,770 --> 00:29:58,540 Yeah. And I go, that is, I get it and 530 00:29:58,550 --> 00:30:02,990 I understand. And it is such a sad response. 531 00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:06,220 And like I said, like if that's you right now, if you're 532 00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:10,080 listening like 0 condemnation because we've sat in that spot 533 00:30:10,090 --> 00:30:13,440 and perpetually almost in that spot, right of like. 534 00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:16,390 Just overwhelmed and like, absolutely, yeah. 535 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,160 And it's like I've just this, it's too much. 536 00:30:18,170 --> 00:30:20,710 I can't handle anymore. I just need to like delete all 537 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,930 the apps and not watch any news for a while and. 538 00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:25,930 That was the summer for me. I'm like, I'm done with all 539 00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:28,280 things digital. I'm like, yeah, absolutely. 540 00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:33,800 But what we, what you can do, what you can do is in your 541 00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:37,160 circle of influence, you can choose to serve others. 542 00:30:37,570 --> 00:30:40,180 Yeah. And so that like, you know, 543 00:30:40,430 --> 00:30:43,660 there are so many more meaningful like deeper 544 00:30:43,670 --> 00:30:47,680 theological takeaways from Jesus entrance into Jerusalem. 545 00:30:47,820 --> 00:30:51,200 But, but if we're talking about like the most practical thing 546 00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:55,930 that you can do, yeah, tomorrow, like so we're recording this on 547 00:30:55,940 --> 00:30:58,690 Monday. So I'm like, by Tuesday, if this 548 00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:01,580 thing's out and you're listening Wednesday, like the most 549 00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:04,690 practical thing you can do is choose to serve people in your 550 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:09,440 circle and like, push against some of the darkness in the 551 00:31:09,450 --> 00:31:12,630 world. Just you can't do everything 552 00:31:12,740 --> 00:31:16,850 about everything. And we all need to wrestle with 553 00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:18,680 that. Yeah, but you can choose to 554 00:31:18,690 --> 00:31:21,960 serve somebody. You can go out of your way to do 555 00:31:21,970 --> 00:31:24,310 something this week. I'm convinced everybody can do 556 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,150 that. No matter where you are, no 557 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,480 matter where your circle is, I'm convinced everybody can do 558 00:31:29,490 --> 00:31:32,280 something this week. And it's like, OK, it's not the 559 00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:34,680 most like provocative thing to say. 560 00:31:34,690 --> 00:31:37,800 It's not the most like, it's not what it's it's it's not like. 561 00:31:37,850 --> 00:31:39,500 It's not like that's not like the sexy. 562 00:31:39,510 --> 00:31:40,640 Option. No, it's not. 563 00:31:40,650 --> 00:31:42,840 It's not. Like the go out and like, you 564 00:31:42,850 --> 00:31:45,540 know, lead the charge. No, it's like go out and serve 565 00:31:45,630 --> 00:31:48,120 somebody, but all the dude who carries Jesus cross. 566 00:31:48,130 --> 00:31:51,540 Yeah, or, or like, I mean even just like looking at Jesus. 567 00:31:51,550 --> 00:31:54,290 And you touched on this in the sermon of like Jesus coming out 568 00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:56,450 on a donkey, you know? Like. 569 00:31:56,460 --> 00:31:59,770 Baby donkey, right baby donkey, like just a little wussy little 570 00:31:59,780 --> 00:32:03,360 wussy animal, not a War Horse, not anything like that. 571 00:32:03,370 --> 00:32:06,550 Like Jesus comes out on this woozy little creature and he's 572 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,330 like, I'm king, you know, like, and I mean did doesn't even come 573 00:32:09,340 --> 00:32:12,450 with that sort of pump. Like it's there's just something 574 00:32:12,460 --> 00:32:17,540 so different when we, when we just think about, when we think 575 00:32:17,550 --> 00:32:21,280 about worldly powers. Yeah, there's something so 576 00:32:21,290 --> 00:32:25,040 profoundly different about the the way that Jesus goes about it 577 00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:27,710 that is so important for us to notice. 578 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,920 Right, OK, but here's the subversiveness of the gospel and 579 00:32:30,930 --> 00:32:34,620 like of the Kingdom of God is that Jesus does arrive riding on 580 00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:36,140 a donkey and it's not a War Horse. 581 00:32:36,150 --> 00:32:39,280 And he doesn't come in with, you know, the generals and the 582 00:32:39,290 --> 00:32:42,040 military behind him and might and power. 583 00:32:42,130 --> 00:32:44,890 And yet what he accomplishes throughout Holy Week with his 584 00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:48,810 death and resurrection is the single most powerful thing to 585 00:32:48,820 --> 00:32:50,850 happen inside of the course of human history. 586 00:32:50,860 --> 00:32:54,610 Hmm, right. So it's not like it, it is like 587 00:32:54,620 --> 00:32:57,340 I agree with you. It's it's almost comical. 588 00:32:57,350 --> 00:33:00,260 Like it is this, it's a donkey and with a cult like there's a 589 00:33:00,270 --> 00:33:03,370 baby donkey beside and he's not doing the pomp and circumstance 590 00:33:03,380 --> 00:33:05,490 thing. And yet it's the most powerful 591 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:08,760 thing that has happened and will happen like inside of human 592 00:33:08,770 --> 00:33:10,850 history. Like this is this is this is the 593 00:33:10,860 --> 00:33:15,870 rescue of the entire world happening through Jesus death. 594 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,130 And that's why like it is it is such a backwards upside down 595 00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:22,870 Kingdom. But really, and this is like, I 596 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,530 love anti rights language. He's like, you all call this an 597 00:33:25,540 --> 00:33:31,090 upside down Kingdom. But really what he's doing is 598 00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:34,970 setting everything right. Yeah, he's he's taking 599 00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:37,750 everything that was upside down and writing it. 600 00:33:37,820 --> 00:33:41,170 So he's he's writing the ship, He's writing the like, it's not 601 00:33:41,180 --> 00:33:44,460 an upside down Kingdom. He's a you all y'all are upside 602 00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:48,760 down and what Jesus does here is write everything. 603 00:33:49,130 --> 00:33:53,520 So you know, I think that I would caution the listener and 604 00:33:53,530 --> 00:33:56,980 even myself because I get this like well, what good is this 605 00:33:56,990 --> 00:34:00,000 small like sure, I can go and serve somebody today and I'm 606 00:34:00,010 --> 00:34:03,860 like you have no idea what God is going to do with that little 607 00:34:03,870 --> 00:34:07,010 act of service in his right side up Kingdom. 608 00:34:07,050 --> 00:34:11,179 Like you have no clue and I just want to So one thing and I'm not 609 00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:14,090 sure where we're at on time but we close to be wrapping up. 610 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,730 So 2 weeks ago when I did preach for 52 minutes. 611 00:34:17,739 --> 00:34:20,540 Not that this had anything to do with it, but I've been feeling 612 00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:27,300 this like nudge of the Holy Spirit to do like a halfway 613 00:34:27,310 --> 00:34:28,880 altar call. A Presbyterian. 614 00:34:30,460 --> 00:34:32,340 So that doesn't that doesn't hardly exists. 615 00:34:32,350 --> 00:34:34,820 Yeah. So didn't invite people up to 616 00:34:34,830 --> 00:34:37,159 the front, which would be like the typical traditional sort of 617 00:34:37,170 --> 00:34:39,139 fit whatever. All right, we invite everybody 618 00:34:39,150 --> 00:34:42,340 to the front, but did at the end of praying after the sermon, 619 00:34:42,469 --> 00:34:46,000 invite people who wanted to to receive Jesus, follow Jesus, 620 00:34:46,070 --> 00:34:48,520 accept Jesus to be Lord and Savior for the first time. 621 00:34:48,590 --> 00:34:51,219 Raise your hands. And so I think we have three 622 00:34:51,230 --> 00:34:53,760 people raise their hands very first time with three people 623 00:34:53,830 --> 00:34:56,780 raise their hands were preaching on the prodigal son. 624 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:58,900 So like identifying with that older brother being, hey, like 625 00:34:58,910 --> 00:35:02,130 my life, I realized something massive needs to change to three 626 00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:03,720 more. So six people make decisions for 627 00:35:03,730 --> 00:35:04,830 Jesus. Yeah. 628 00:35:05,010 --> 00:35:10,130 And in my head, in my head. So my coach, my ministry coach, 629 00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:14,430 he said in in a meeting, he's like, you know, I'm challenging 630 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,570 you to do it. And he's like, if nobody raises 631 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,610 their hand, just know I'm cheering you on. 632 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,930 Like I'm cheering. Like just hear my voice in the 633 00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:25,130 back of your head, I'm cheering you on. 634 00:35:25,660 --> 00:35:32,560 And all week I'm like, wow, it gets it's we've not done this in 635 00:35:32,570 --> 00:35:34,580 my time here. Not in my time. 636 00:35:34,650 --> 00:35:38,080 It, it's not, it's not typically I'm using air quotes here done 637 00:35:38,090 --> 00:35:39,480 in Presbyterian churches, though. 638 00:35:39,490 --> 00:35:41,660 Like we're like the least Presbyterian of the Presbyterian 639 00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:45,040 churches, but still like it's, it's, it felt to me like such a 640 00:35:45,050 --> 00:35:47,470 small thing. I'm like, oh, surely if somebody 641 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,750 wanted to make this commitment, wouldn't they come up and talk 642 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,500 to me after? Like it felt like such a small 643 00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:55,070 thing. And so like, I'm, I'm wrestling 644 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,360 it out as I'm preaching. The plan was to do it and you 645 00:35:58,370 --> 00:36:01,030 knew, like the band knew. But yeah, like the plan was, I'm 646 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,610 still wrestling this thing out as I'm like, it's just small. 647 00:36:03,620 --> 00:36:06,210 Like it felt small. Like what good is it going to 648 00:36:06,220 --> 00:36:06,950 be? Really? 649 00:36:07,020 --> 00:36:10,440 Like what? And and so I got to that to that 650 00:36:10,490 --> 00:36:12,080 prayer and I'm like, no, you know what? 651 00:36:12,090 --> 00:36:14,750 I'm this is something that I like. 652 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,590 I'm sure. I'm certain God has convicted me 653 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,990 to do so We're in it. We're doing it and it's gonna be 654 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,810 clumsy and I'm gonna fumble my way through it. 655 00:36:22,940 --> 00:36:27,950 And I go six. Yeah, people who boldly say I'm 656 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,990 in. Yeah, I go like I so you not. 657 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,140 I don't think anybody would have. 658 00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:34,830 Maybe one person saw this. Like I got down and I went to 659 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,150 straight to the back of the sanctuary and like I wept. 660 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,530 Like I was just, I was crying and I was like, it's like that 661 00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:44,280 never happens after preaching, but like I because just like I 662 00:36:44,290 --> 00:36:50,220 was so stirred up, like in some sense, like I was so. 663 00:36:50,330 --> 00:36:52,180 So God was at work. God showed. 664 00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:53,200 Up. It was fantastic. 665 00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:56,300 And like, I'm so I love what God is doing. 666 00:36:56,570 --> 00:37:00,980 And it just was such a reminder. So to me, it was a reminder to 667 00:37:00,990 --> 00:37:05,800 me that these things that feel like we've convinced ourselves 668 00:37:05,810 --> 00:37:10,620 feel small are not small in the big picture of the Kingdom. 669 00:37:10,850 --> 00:37:15,140 And so Jesus, he shows up on the donkey, he's in Jerusalem. 670 00:37:15,150 --> 00:37:18,180 He's going to do a whole lot of, you know, different things as 671 00:37:18,190 --> 00:37:19,730 authority is going to be questioned. 672 00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:22,560 He's gonna curse some fig trees in Matthew. 673 00:37:22,570 --> 00:37:25,420 Like if you're reading through, I think maybe that would be like 674 00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:29,910 the lingering challenge I would offer any listener is, you know, 675 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,580 we started Matthew 21. And something that you could do 676 00:37:33,590 --> 00:37:36,560 and that I'm going to do between now and Easter is just read from 677 00:37:36,570 --> 00:37:43,160 Matthew 21 through to 27. And that gets us through to the 678 00:37:43,170 --> 00:37:46,400 Friday and to Jesus's death. He's gonna tell some more 679 00:37:46,410 --> 00:37:48,670 parables. Some of them will, you know, I'm 680 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,760 sure sound familiar? But in 26, Jesus will be 681 00:37:50,770 --> 00:37:55,840 arrested and then in in 27, he's gonna be put on trial. 682 00:37:55,850 --> 00:38:01,740 So read all the way through and just remember that like a lot of 683 00:38:01,750 --> 00:38:04,470 these things, like the way Jesus tells parables, he's like, man, 684 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,140 the Kingdom looks small, but you have no idea how it's going to 685 00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:12,190 explode. And what you think you know, 686 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:16,550 should be the, the, the, the correct operating system of the 687 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,840 world is not. And so he's going to, he's going 688 00:38:19,850 --> 00:38:23,640 to walk us toward his death and then his resurrection by telling 689 00:38:23,650 --> 00:38:26,770 these parables like the Kingdom of God is like, it's like he's 690 00:38:26,780 --> 00:38:29,070 going to feel small and it's going to look tiny. 691 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,650 And you have no idea what it, what God is going to do with it. 692 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:36,390 So do something, pick something that you can do this week to 693 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,660 serve others and you have no idea what God is going to do 694 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:41,170 with it. Yeah, I think that's enough of 695 00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:42,810 me talking once you take us home. 696 00:38:44,090 --> 00:38:49,450 You know this has been great and hopefully I was worried we're 697 00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:52,120 gonna little rusty because it's been a while, but hey here we 698 00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:54,600 are made it to the end. I hopefully there's some great 699 00:38:54,610 --> 00:38:59,040 stuff for you to chew on as we head into Holy Week. 700 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,760 And yeah, take some take some moments this week to just be 701 00:39:03,770 --> 00:39:09,320 still and to read some of these passages. 702 00:39:09,810 --> 00:39:13,380 Just take it in. Don't let this week go by 703 00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:24,530 without just spending time with God, serving others, just being 704 00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:27,090 present and seeing what God does. 705 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,880 So that's our prayer for you all and for ourselves as well as we 706 00:39:31,890 --> 00:39:35,810 as we go into this week. And so we hope to see you next 707 00:39:35,820 --> 00:39:37,640 time. And we hope to see you if you're 708 00:39:37,650 --> 00:39:40,270 watching this in real time, we hope to see you this weekend, 709 00:39:40,340 --> 00:39:43,530 Good Friday and Easter Sunday. Have a great week.