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Hey everyone, welcome to another
episode of the Sunday Sit down 

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where it's not Sunday, but we 
are sitting down and, and today 

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I have the honor and privilege 
to be here with Annabelle Edward

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who was preaching yesterday 
morning. 

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It's Monday here in real time. 
And and it was I was actually 

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away yesterday. 
I I missed it. 

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I was sad to miss it. 
OK, it's online. 

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That's right. 
That's right. 

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So I, but I, I had a good listen
this morning. 

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Yeah. 
And I was, I was so encouraged 

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by the word you gave. 
And I mean in so many ways, 

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which we'll get into a little 
bit, but I also like, I was 

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thinking as I was listening, 
you're you mentioned in the 

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passage, which is about Mary and
Martha and Mary at the feet of 

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Jesus. 
And we'll we'll get, we'll read 

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it in a moment. 
But one thing I was like very 

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acutely aware of, and I just 
think it's quite poignant is 

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that it makes so much more sense
for a woman to do this sermon, 

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which was like, it was perfect. 
It was so perfect. 

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Just because, you know, one of 
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is that, you know, Mary was 
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which, you know, was stretching 
the boundaries of, of what women

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could do in that day and age. 
And there are so many, there are

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so many voices in our, even in 
Christian, you know, in the 

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Christian universe today that 
still try to limit the activity 

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and voices of women. 
And and I'm so glad that you 

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were the 1 to give that. 
Message Yeah, it was it was 

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actually quite fun when I was I 
the quote I said on Sunday for 

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mentee right there was like, 
yeah, Mary is sitting at Jesus 

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feet as a would be like preacher
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would have first had to be an 
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Jesus was called many times in 
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So it was it was it was fun to 
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because it's not one that's 
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like, Oh no, women can do it. 
So I was like, hey, there's 

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another one. 
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cool. 
And my hope is that that that is

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always something that is near 
and dear to our heart in our, in

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this church community. 
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every, every chance we can get, 
whether it's you or my wife, NZ 

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or Allison or Connie or who, 
whomever else, right? 

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It's just we, you know, we need 
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So I'm glad. 
Grateful that our church does 

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that and allows me to preach 
other women to preach and 

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anyone. 
It's not just about women, it's 

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also about like the outcasts and
the people that you wouldn't 

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normally see welcomed into 
circles that are. 

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I wanna make like a slight like 
distinction from you use the 

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word allow there and I and I 
want to like just like little 

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qualifier there just because I 
don't like the last thing I want

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is is for it to feel like, you 
know, like Grant or I or like we

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are like allowing from on like 
man, I I just I hate not I hate 

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when people have that mentality 
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Like, well, thanks, thank you 
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But it's like, you know, like 
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called and, and like we just God
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now you get to pour that out to 
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And it's like that's just that's
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And, and and we just need more 
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So yeah, thank. 
You, but yes. 

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Cool, so this was Luke chapter 
10 I'm going to read. 

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It was a shorter, shorter 
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So this is Luke chapter 10 verse
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from the NIV which which is 
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Is that what you read? 
From yes I did. 

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There we go. 
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were on their way, he came to a 
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Martha opened her home to him. 
She had a sister called Mary who

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sat at the Lord's feet listening
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But Martha was distracted by all
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made. 
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don't you care that my sister 
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myself? 
Tell her to help me, Martha. 

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Martha, the Lord answered. 
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many things, but few things are 
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Mary has chosen what is better 
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from her. 
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So I, I left my iPad at home and
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I I made, I made notes. 
This. 

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That's fun. 
I mean, recently I've started to

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do that with school. 
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for so long. 
It hurt your eyes. 

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This is like, but I mean this is
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to do and and so, but it's 
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I didn't wanna, I didn't want to
have my like like 16 inch laptop

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screen in front of me anyway. 
Do you know that you're fine 

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That one, that one's a better 
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And yeah. 
So there's a few thoughts, a few

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questions that were percolating 
for for myself and for grants. 

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Send me a few few and I kind of 
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some of the questions that were 
percolating for me. 

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know, a sermon, any thoughts 
that come up, you can send them 

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courtrightchurch.org. 

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And we always check before we 
record to see if there's 

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anything there just to facility 
discussion for something that 

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you're processing or working 
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So first question, what might it
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day to sit at Jesus feet like 
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And so you touched on on this 
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You know, what Mary's doing is, 
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from Jesus. 
She's receiving his teaching as 

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an apprentice, as a as a 
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And so when we think about, when
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there, how can we, what are some
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And you highlighted a couple of 
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go a little deeper. 
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the other piece of the coin that
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before pressing record is that 
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alone. 
Things that are, you know, we we

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see that modeled in Jesus that 
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and to be with God the Father. 
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lot of things that we ought to 
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And Mary was in community here. 
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Jesus. 
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around doing all things because 
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right. 
Yeah, a lot of people. 

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Jesus. 
Yes, there. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
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I love I love the way you 
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I like James Jesus. 
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house, stressful. 
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noticed the dust on your 
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That would be stressful. 
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And that's like attention in, 
in, in our household that we've 

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gotten better at over the years.
Like when it's a company's gonna

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come over. 
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And it's like, what is the level
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appropriate for, you know, 
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No, I, I have started, as I have
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to notice these things as a 
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I'd be like, why is everyone so 
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And now I'm like, Oh no, like 
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They won't. 
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It needs to be cleaned. 
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I think it was Friday night. 
Friday night, a friend who I 

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haven't seen in like 2 years. 
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having like a nap on the couch 
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night because I had a ball game 
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important very Blue Jays playoff
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And, and, and I was, I, but I 
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the previous game, which went 
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And so, and then all of a sudden
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She's like Justin, Justin, 
someone's at the door and it was

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a friend who I hadn't seen in 
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passing by and had, you know, 
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But we went through this thing 
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like just did a workout and was 
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like the house was not in a 
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There was like there was like 
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up some like cat litter for our 
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front of the door and and but we
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Is nice to see my friend, you 
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But it's a tension. 
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of that. 
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And we'll, we'll come back to 
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like, yeah, what does it look 
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to create that space alone and 
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So if you have any thoughts 
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Yeah, that was something I was 
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to the sermon, because I was at 
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that alone aspect and like, how 
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they're like, well, do you have 
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And I was like, Oh yeah, that 
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to do it together. 
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Like we're all one eye. 
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the analogy to be the function 
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And that is very important. 
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think it's very important also 
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relationship with Jesus. 
Sometimes it can be easy to like

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grab on to other peoples a 
relationship with Jesus and, and

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that is great to pull you 
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leaning on someone else. 
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foundation is essential and not 
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As I mentioned multiple times on
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with it too of the but what does
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Because a lot of people talk 
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with Jesus. 
That's what I've just said for 

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Jesus. 
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And the things I've come up with
were quite practical because it 

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would be lovely to spend all 
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but it's not very practical. 
A lot of us have jobs or school 

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or kids for other things going 
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can't spend like carve out time 
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And that also doesn't mean you 
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hectic parts of life. 
So a few that I mentioned for 

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individually were like carving 
out moments to read your Bible 

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in the morning, afternoon, at 
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time or which worked for me for 
a while, but then school got 

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busy. 
So what do you do when you 

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really don't seem to have that 
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And like is there stuff on the 
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Like Geo 365 is what I mentioned
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And someone mentioned that to me
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always have to be reading your 
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out and do it that way. 
Like sometimes it's just lovely 

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to listen to what other 
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and just received and just 
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Yeah. 
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And that's sort of ties into the
community aspect of doing it 

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alone is really hard and it's 
nice to hear other people's 

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thoughts. 
Preparing the sermon, I asked a 

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bunch of people what they saw in
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We sat down with Grant and 
Allison and talked it through 

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because we all have different 
opinions, different approaches, 

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different ways. 
We see things things that pop 

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out to us more than others. 
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Think we need each other? 
Like, we need each other. 

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Yeah, it is vital in the walk 
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We need people. 
And that's what you see Mary 

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doing. 
She's not by herself with Jesus.

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In a way, she is like, it's her 
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She's learning from him. 
But she also has all these 

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people around her that want to. 
And that's, I think, the key 

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component. 
Like we need to surround 

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ourselves with people that are 
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knowing and being known by him. 
So going back to practical 

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things, what does that look 
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I have like going to a Bible 
study, making your own Bible 

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study. 
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There's yeah pitch for more 
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If you are feeling called to it,
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Bible study, you're still part 
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to other people and it's last 
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remember that, we sat down and 
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whatever it was. 
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didn't know, we also have coffee
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Yay. 
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seeing how their weeks going, 
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Inviting over a friend, You 

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haven't seen those? 
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a, a friend and you know, have a
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it becomes this like, you know, 
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just catching up. 
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is your soul like what's going 
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How like what, what can we, you 
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each other and like, which is 
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So that's not going to happen. 
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last few years months has been 
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small talk and you're like, oh, 
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like are deep and you both have 
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but you can start with that. 
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Not like it's like a check up. 
No, we don't want that. 

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Wesley, theologian, itinerant 
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he developed like this little, I
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This is like in the 1700s and, 
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questions that they would ask 
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such a like such a, it gets to 
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like, I think the phrasing, if 
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think I am, is like, how is it 
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you know, like I just think it 
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was like, Oh, John Wesley, he 
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in there. 
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seminary And, and that doesn't, 
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those words mean, it does not 
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within, you know, with under the
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beautiful thing. 
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learned lots from my time with 
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and now I am one, but also from 
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Like, as we're saying, like 
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that are on the same walk with 
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like you have to find another 
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same thing. 
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I went to a Catholic Church over
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their priest, which was 
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like this is Annabelle, they're 
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said, do you believe in Jesus? 
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It's like it's the same Jesus. 
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on different things and how 
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community, differing things, but
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Jesus. 
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Lovely and I'm also thinking 
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I, we were talking this a little
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for, for centuries, the 
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to their own Bibles. 
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you to Gutenberg and, and his 
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you've got like language 
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barriers. 
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of that, you have people that 
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right? 
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there's, there's benefits and 
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things, right? 
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Hey, I this is kind of meant to 
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learn from one another, grow 
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authority in an unhealthy way, 
which is, you know, part of, you

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know, the the Protestant 
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individualized, yeah, you know, 
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and Jesus, and that's all we're 
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And and then you can read your 
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at some very wrong conclusions. 
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have teachers on these things, 
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study it their whole lives. 
I heavily leaned on some of the 

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commentaries around this passage
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insightful things to say. 
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that you have to like fully 
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you will like individually. 
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North America of everything's 
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praised for doing things 
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the ladder climbing up. 
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gets that promotion so to, but 
to actively do it together, 

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collaborate and learn together. 
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different parts of life, walks 
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They have different things that 

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listen to a series or do it 
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it's a bit of a disservice to 
not like it's wrong not to do it

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have quiet time yourself. 
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it at that because. 
And you'll never hear or see the

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other things that are being 
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Mary and Martha and and there is
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hospitality here to to what, to 
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Martha would see herself. 
As terrified of mixing. 

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Mary and Martha, why do? 
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Come on, she got, she got Martha
like who's like, I think kind of

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functioning in the role of, of 
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hospitality stuff, right. 
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both of them that, that Mary is,
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Jesus and, and she's listening 
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their home. 
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little bit about radical 
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You refer to that and, and 
wanted like unpack that a little

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bit. 
Talk, talk. 

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Tell me more about radical. 
Hospitality, one of the things 

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that ended up on the cutting 
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or twice in the sermon, but it 
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was like, if I keep talking, I 
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And I don't know if people will 

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appreciate that. 
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see it, is like a radical way of
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people feel comfortable and 
seeing in your space. 

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So in this context, we'd be 
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church. 
This is the specifically words 

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and actually radical 
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The term was coined by Alpha, 
which is a We have Alpha Canada,

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there's Alpha UK, and it is like
a series of videos that help 

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people learn and understand the 
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Which may be making a resurgence
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Stay tuned. 
But it is, as they say, it's an 

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opportunity to explore the 
meaning of life for Christians 

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that have been Christians for a 
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All of the above. 
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it cause I think it's something 
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I talked about how Jesus's 
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bringing in women, but bringing 
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the Samaritan. 
If you didn't catch that sermon 

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last week, go watch it. 
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So therefore everything we do 
has to be or is radical in its 

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own way. 
So that's where radical 

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hospitality I found came from. 
And I think that connects to how

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we have to do this in community 
and are knowing and being known 

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by Jesus specifically. 
I don't believe that we can get 

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to exploring or bringing forth 
which Jesus is help the radical 

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Kingdom that he was bringing 
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without him. 
So we can do all the things like

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I was saying, have all the Bible
studies have Alpha have 

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community like time with your 
community after church with 

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coffee. 
But if we don't do it with a 

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posture of knowing and being 
known by Jesus, actively seeking

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that I like how, how can you 
bring in someone's Jesus's 

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Kingdom without him being there?
That's more like bringing in 

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your own Kingdom of what we 
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And that's dangerous. 
I think that's very dangerous. 

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So like how the question then 
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How do we make our church, our 
church, the church, a community 

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that is intent on pursuing, 
continually pursuing Jesus's 

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radical Kingdom and then having 
radical hospitality, radical 

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generosity, all those things 
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And like I think that comes with
knowing and being known by 

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Jesus. 
And I think we sort of talked 

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about this at the beginning 
before the cameras turned on was

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with that radical hospitality. 
Like I think Courtright is very 

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good at being a community and 
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But like, how do we invite 
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How do we be a community intent 
on inviting people to church and

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how do we do that well? 
And again, I think that all ties

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back to we as court, right, as 
members of the church, as 

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longtime Christians or just 
people that are like, yes, this 

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is where I want to go. 
How can we collectively as a 

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team work on knowing and being 
known by Jesus to then go out 

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and invite people and build his 
Kingdom? 

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And knowing, knowing and being 
known by Jesus and then knowing 

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and being known by our 
neighbors, you know, which is, 

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you know, being coming trusted 
neighbors. 

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And, you know, yesterday we had,
you know, this fall fair event 

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after the surface. 
And, and there is like, you 

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know, I don't know if we have a 
head count, but there was a lot 

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of families, like a lot of ton 
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neighborhood that that came 
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And, and we're just continuing 
to build those relationships and

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foster those connections. 
And, and, and you know, like 

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that is a simple, easy invite. 
You know, we're not, we're not 

448
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like holding them hostage for 
like a gospel, you know? 

449
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,790
You first have to sit through. 
The yeah, like, no. 

450
00:25:57,010 --> 00:25:59,370
No. 
Because I think that's like when

451
00:25:59,380 --> 00:26:01,050
you talk about how we can do 
this, well, there's also ways 

452
00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,510
you can do it really poorly, 
right? 

453
00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:06,510
And that, you know, like we 
don't, you know, you can't do 

454
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,850
like bait and switch type stuff,
right? 

455
00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:09,190
Like that's, that's not gonna go
well. 

456
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,070
Like sometimes a fun event is 
just a fun event, you know, and 

457
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,990
we're, and we are working in and
being in community with, with 

458
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,840
our neighbors and, and for 
community related events and 

459
00:26:17,850 --> 00:26:19,590
yeah, and community building 
stuff, right. 

460
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,700
It's all, it's great. 
But I do think, yeah, when it 

461
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:25,120
comes to things like you 
mentioned, like Alpha, you 

462
00:26:25,130 --> 00:26:27,670
mentioned, there's other, lots 
of, lots of other events where, 

463
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,050
where it's like, hey, there are 
some other tiers here where it's

464
00:26:31,060 --> 00:26:34,070
like, hey, how can we bring 
people in? 

465
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,250
How can we? 
And, and, and alongside that, 

466
00:26:36,260 --> 00:26:38,400
you're not just inviting them, 
but you're inviting them into 

467
00:26:38,410 --> 00:26:41,420
something that is deeply 
hospitable, right? 

468
00:26:41,490 --> 00:26:44,360
Especially something just using,
again, Alpha as an example. 

469
00:26:44,430 --> 00:26:47,780
Like you're there, you're coming
into, you know, someone's church

470
00:26:47,790 --> 00:26:51,760
or someone's home and, you know,
sharing a meal together and 

471
00:26:51,770 --> 00:26:55,020
you're having like pretty deep 
discussion about things like 

472
00:26:55,030 --> 00:26:58,140
like that, that requires a 
certain level of, of, yeah, 

473
00:26:58,150 --> 00:27:03,160
radical hospitality that you, we
don't see a ton of in our world 

474
00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:05,300
today. 
I find, at least in here in the 

475
00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:09,730
West, which tends to be more 
hyper individualized and it's 

476
00:27:09,740 --> 00:27:14,030
like, I've got my here's my home
and my property and and don't 

477
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:19,320
don't come on my property no 
trespassing, you know, and like 

478
00:27:19,330 --> 00:27:22,810
that's a pretty like that's a 
pretty kind of, I think western,

479
00:27:22,820 --> 00:27:25,510
at least in in, in this, you 
know, in this part of the world 

480
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,000
here. 
It's because I've I've been to 

481
00:27:27,010 --> 00:27:31,950
places where, you know, people 
who have nothing invite you into

482
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,790
their homes and give you 
everything that they have, 

483
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,970
right. 
So like that's not the norm 

484
00:27:38,980 --> 00:27:42,560
here, right? 
But anyway, yeah, just like some

485
00:27:42,570 --> 00:27:45,550
good questions. 
I mean even like for for Astro 

486
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,970
sport, but also for like for you
as a listener of like, how am I,

487
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,070
how am I preparing myself to to 
like potentially like extend 

488
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,740
take the take the risk of 
extending the invite to someone 

489
00:27:59,750 --> 00:28:03,350
because. 
You're when you invite people, I

490
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:07,090
remember last year, first year, 
I met a bunch of friends, people

491
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:11,120
at school and I invited them to 
church and that was vulnerable. 

492
00:28:11,130 --> 00:28:14,220
I was like, come see my church. 
I was like, it's not perfect, 

493
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:16,280
but it's so community and 
they're lovely. 

494
00:28:16,350 --> 00:28:18,620
But no, but that's for any 
church, everyone. 

495
00:28:19,290 --> 00:28:22,760
And I think so that is a 
vulnerable step to put yourself 

496
00:28:22,770 --> 00:28:25,480
out there and be like, come feel
welcomed. 

497
00:28:25,550 --> 00:28:29,320
We want you to join us. 
But I think that's also a way to

498
00:28:29,330 --> 00:28:35,170
build community, like inviting 
people in and having a space to 

499
00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:42,030
ask those questions and to get 
to know God is a great way to 

500
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,520
build that community and do 
those. 

501
00:28:43,530 --> 00:28:45,810
Like what is an actionable way 
you can do it together? 

502
00:28:45,820 --> 00:28:48,150
That is an actionable way. 
You can do it together. 

503
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,250
But again, I don't think you can
first. 

504
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,090
Well, you can, but I don't think
you can do it well without 

505
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:59,070
knowing God or having like as a 
church being intent on like 

506
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,100
these are our we know that this 
is what Jesus is calling us to 

507
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:05,750
do and this is what we want, 
like our being trusted 

508
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,610
neighbors. 
That was what we discerned was a

509
00:29:08,620 --> 00:29:12,990
call for our church and then to 
not bait and switches. 

510
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:18,390
He said like inviting people to 
the fall fair without saying you

511
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,410
gotta come to church first is 
because we know Jesus and we 

512
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,340
were still obviously pursuing 
him constantly, but that is not 

513
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:30,390
what Jesus did. 
He didn't like, I will heal you 

514
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,110
if you get baptized right now. 
That was not Jesus. 

515
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:38,170
That was not his ministry. 
So he invited the people and to 

516
00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:43,650
come see him to learn. 
And I think that is that's why 

517
00:29:43,730 --> 00:29:47,610
we say like, invite them to 
these fun events, not with the 

518
00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:52,110
intent to convert them today, 
but because we know that's what 

519
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,410
Jesus would have. 
Done. 

520
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,450
Absolutely. 
That's great. 

521
00:29:55,940 --> 00:30:00,700
And so I want to, you know, 
continue on here with with one 

522
00:30:00,710 --> 00:30:04,060
of the things that that Jesus 
says regarding, you know, Mark, 

523
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:07,780
Martha comes to Jesus and she's 
like, would you make my sister 

524
00:30:07,790 --> 00:30:11,490
do stuff, please? 
Belt on a deep level. 

525
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,750
Not for my sister no, but I was 
like oht siblings. 

526
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,230
This is this is every sibling 
knows that like, oh, this is not

527
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,370
fair. 
When you're 5 and you see your 

528
00:30:21,380 --> 00:30:23,850
sibling doing something, you're 
like, I wanna do that. 

529
00:30:23,910 --> 00:30:30,100
Like that is feel it. 
And then Jesus, Jesus turns back

530
00:30:30,110 --> 00:30:33,370
to her and says, like, you know,
she's chosen the better thing. 

531
00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:37,480
Yeah, you know, and and then so 
then, but then Jesus says so few

532
00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:40,100
things are needed, indeed only 
one. 

533
00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:44,640
And so like, what is the one 
thing like that that Mary is 

534
00:30:44,650 --> 00:30:48,710
doing that that he is. 
I don't think like, I don't 

535
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,980
think he's going to Martha. 
Like, I don't think he's like, I

536
00:30:50,990 --> 00:30:54,920
think I, I picture it like as a 
gentle chiding, you know, like I

537
00:30:54,930 --> 00:30:57,880
pictured of like, like, like 
Martha, I want you to see the 

538
00:30:57,890 --> 00:30:59,980
bigger picture here. 
You know, like what you're doing

539
00:30:59,990 --> 00:31:03,950
is good, but actually what Mary 
is doing is, is better. 

540
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,320
And yet Martha, Martha is also 
doing something that's kind of 

541
00:31:06,330 --> 00:31:09,230
crucial, like, you know, like, 
what's what's gonna happen? 

542
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,350
To eat if she doesn't make. 
That, yeah. 

543
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,770
Someone doesn't make. 
Out. 

544
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,210
So I guess the question is like 
what? 

545
00:31:15,340 --> 00:31:20,020
How is Mary being at the feet of
Jesus the better thing? 

546
00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:23,390
I think I love that language. 
When I read it first, I was 

547
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,830
like, better. 
Cause it's not. 

548
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,890
He's not saying the best thing 
and he's not saying what she 

549
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,750
Martha is doing is awful and 
wrong and how could you possibly

550
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,130
do that? 
He's saying he's inviting her 

551
00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:41,430
into a space that is better. 
I like to think of it. 

552
00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:44,870
Jesus, being like this is great.
Like what? 

553
00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:48,730
Being hospitable and doing that 
is lovely. 

554
00:31:48,780 --> 00:31:52,380
But I'm here for a short time 
and I want to get to know you. 

555
00:31:52,460 --> 00:31:57,190
I want to know you. 
And Jesus is inviting her into a

556
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,470
relationship with him. 
He's like, there's so much noise

557
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,670
in our lives, in Martha's life. 
There is a lot going on and 

558
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,650
sometimes it feels like you 
can't keep up with it. 

559
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:10,800
And so, but Jesus is saying, 
Martha, I'm not going to be here

560
00:32:10,810 --> 00:32:13,550
forever. 
Like in physical form. 

561
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,870
I want what your sister is doing
is better. 

562
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,250
She's sitting at my feet and 
she's listening and we're 

563
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:23,600
talking and having a 
conversation and getting to know

564
00:32:23,610 --> 00:32:26,520
each other. 
And I think that is why what 

565
00:32:26,530 --> 00:32:29,500
he's saying. 
Indeed, indeed, only one of 

566
00:32:29,510 --> 00:32:30,640
these. 
What is the? 

567
00:32:31,030 --> 00:32:33,360
I think this might be different 
translation that Grant was 

568
00:32:33,370 --> 00:32:35,980
referring to is that a few 
things are needed indeed. 

569
00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:41,980
Only one is like few things are 
needed, but indeed only one 

570
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:45,750
getting to know me. 
Me getting to know you, knowing 

571
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,400
and being known by Jesus, the 
relationship with him because I 

572
00:32:49,410 --> 00:32:53,820
think you can doing all the 
other stuff, being hospitable 

573
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:57,810
church, radical hospitality, 
generosity, inviting people in 

574
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,890
their great and they are the 
call of the church and call of 

575
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:04,450
us as Christians. 
But I don't think you can do 

576
00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:09,030
them well at all without first 
knowing and being known by 

577
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,690
Jesus. 
So I think Jesus is saying to 

578
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:15,500
Martha, to us like inviting us 
into that space of sitting at 

579
00:33:15,510 --> 00:33:18,840
his feet and having a 
relationship with him because 

580
00:33:18,850 --> 00:33:21,110
he's saying this is the better 
thing. 

581
00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:25,350
You need to know this first or 
continually about this because 

582
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,560
we're not gonna like check mark 
know Jesus. 

583
00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:31,170
Yes, it is a continual process 
for your entire life. 

584
00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:35,170
So, and there's something about 
this idea of, of, I mean, these 

585
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:38,270
two things are obviously 
connected of that we, you know, 

586
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,430
we pursue God's Kingdom, but it 
can't be divorced from knowing 

587
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,870
and being known by Jesus. 
And in fact, I think what Jesus 

588
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,510
is saying here, it's like, it's 
like we pursue God's Kingdom by 

589
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,310
like the, the tangible fruit of 
the Kingdom, by knowing and 

590
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,880
being known, right? 
It's starts there, right? 

591
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,750
And, and I've seen, you know, I 
actually, I don't even say I've 

592
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:05,800
seen, I have been in places in 
my life where I, I'm not running

593
00:34:05,810 --> 00:34:08,420
on the power of knowing and 
being known by Jesus where I'm 

594
00:34:08,429 --> 00:34:11,159
just doing, I'm just, I'm just 
doing the thing that I know how 

595
00:34:11,170 --> 00:34:13,960
to do because I'm like, you know
what, I'm good at this. 

596
00:34:14,030 --> 00:34:18,060
And if I just, I can just do 
all, do that all I want all week

597
00:34:18,070 --> 00:34:22,620
long on my own strength without 
being empowered by Jesus and 

598
00:34:22,670 --> 00:34:27,820
knowing him. 
And it usually is mediocre. 

599
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:29,889
You know, it's like, it's one of
those things where it's like, 

600
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:33,130
yeah, like I, I did the thing, 
yeah, it was a thing. 

601
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:35,550
You know, it happened, it 
happened, it happened, you know,

602
00:34:36,020 --> 00:34:42,840
versus doing the thing out of a 
place of being deeply known by 

603
00:34:42,850 --> 00:34:45,800
Jesus and knowing right. 
Like there's a there is a 

604
00:34:45,810 --> 00:34:47,699
distinct difference between 
those things. 

605
00:34:47,710 --> 00:34:50,560
And so like, yeah, you could you
could imagine a scenario I'm 

606
00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:55,489
just kind of picturing like 
Martha having first taken time 

607
00:34:55,610 --> 00:34:59,500
to be at the feet of Jesus and 
to be alongside her sister and, 

608
00:34:59,510 --> 00:35:06,330
and to, to take those moments. 
And then for for Martha, how 

609
00:35:06,340 --> 00:35:08,650
different that experience may 
have been for her. 

610
00:35:08,980 --> 00:35:09,730
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

611
00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:12,270
And I think it really changes 
how we do things. 

612
00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:18,090
I think if it's just on us, then
we stay in the comfortable box 

613
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:22,230
of I can do this, yes. 
But if we know and are known by 

614
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:26,890
Jesus, we are stretched to maybe
it's not the thing we would have

615
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:31,070
inviting over somebody to a 
Bible study or to church. 

616
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,160
Not something you might have 
done by yourself, but knowing 

617
00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:36,940
and being known by Jesus. 
You're like, this is, I feel 

618
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:41,160
calling me to do this and I'm 
gonna step out in faith to do 

619
00:35:41,170 --> 00:35:46,960
this and know that Jesus is 
there beside me in that I when I

620
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:50,720
was about to go up, I was like, 
OK, God, this is this is your 

621
00:35:50,730 --> 00:35:53,780
sermon. 
I can't, I, I can't do it 

622
00:35:53,790 --> 00:35:59,300
without you because other like, 
how can you preach or talk about

623
00:35:59,370 --> 00:36:03,380
Jesus's Kingdom without him? 
Because then it just, it doesn't

624
00:36:03,450 --> 00:36:07,370
it, I was like, I need you to be
here to let this land. 

625
00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:09,830
And two, for the people that 
need it. 

626
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,390
This is not me. 
It can't be me. 

627
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,830
So I think that's. 
And there's something because I 

628
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,920
mean like you're, you're like 
slightly, you're 33 sermons in. 

629
00:36:20,190 --> 00:36:23,090
3 sermons. 
Yeah, and but there is like you,

630
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:26,130
what you're describing is it 
doesn't go away like that, that,

631
00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:28,880
you know, there, there are still
times when, you know, I'll wake 

632
00:36:28,890 --> 00:36:31,920
up on a Sunday morning when I'm 
slated to preach and and, you 

633
00:36:31,930 --> 00:36:33,600
know, but like, I'm not happy 
with my ending. 

634
00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:38,410
I'm not happy with whatever. 
And then at some point all of 

635
00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:42,080
the striving and all of the 
like, trying to like make sure 

636
00:36:42,090 --> 00:36:47,300
I've crafted in just the right 
way And like it's, it's I gotta 

637
00:36:47,310 --> 00:36:48,580
give it over. 
Yeah, right. 

638
00:36:48,690 --> 00:36:50,960
And it's one of those things 
where cause here, and this is a 

639
00:36:50,970 --> 00:36:56,040
really like tangible thing. 
Like we're on a Sunday morning. 

640
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:58,360
There's two coaches. 
And this is like a Mary Martha 

641
00:36:58,370 --> 00:37:00,240
approach in some ways, right? 
There's two approaches. 

642
00:37:00,250 --> 00:37:02,670
If you're, if you're in, you 
know, if you're getting up there

643
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,580
ready to preach or to whatever, 
you can sit there during the, 

644
00:37:07,650 --> 00:37:09,640
you know, the, the musical 
worship and whatever. 

645
00:37:09,730 --> 00:37:12,120
And you can be just like 
stewing, thinking about all the 

646
00:37:12,130 --> 00:37:14,450
things you got to say and you're
reviewing your notes and doing 

647
00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:18,550
all the things. 
What are you going to absorb in 

648
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:25,970
those 20 minutes versus entering
in to to the the song worship in

649
00:37:25,980 --> 00:37:29,520
that moment and just receiving 
from the Lord in that moment? 

650
00:37:29,570 --> 00:37:33,800
How much better is that? 
Yeah, right. 

651
00:37:33,890 --> 00:37:36,770
And it's hard like that's that's
something that has been learned 

652
00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:38,490
thing for me where I used to be 
a pacer. 

653
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:41,500
I'd be like pacing around and be
like, OK, I'm just I gotta be 

654
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:42,920
ready to go do this. 
Gotta do that. 

655
00:37:42,930 --> 00:37:46,750
Like there's an anxiousness to 
that versus OK, well, I've done 

656
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,300
everything I can do. 
Nothing else is going to help me

657
00:37:50,370 --> 00:37:53,900
in this moment other than just 
being Jesus. 

658
00:37:53,950 --> 00:37:57,160
Yeah, and it's like a complete 
surrender that I don't think 

659
00:37:57,170 --> 00:38:00,740
it's possible unless you have 
that relationship with Jesus. 

660
00:38:00,830 --> 00:38:04,150
And that if you are not 
preaching in a church, which I 

661
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,970
don't think many people like, 
lots are, but most people 

662
00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:11,520
watching probably are like 
that's great, but I'm not a 

663
00:38:11,530 --> 00:38:15,560
pastor. 
But that is for everything, for 

664
00:38:15,570 --> 00:38:18,680
going into an exam. 
You're you're just like I did 

665
00:38:18,690 --> 00:38:22,300
all the work. 
I studied, but I'm giving you my

666
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:26,870
anxiety and my stress and 
walking into this or at work, a 

667
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,850
big presentation inviting 
someone to church again, I keep 

668
00:38:29,860 --> 00:38:35,250
mentioning that, but it's that 
there's only so much you can do 

669
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:38,630
before you have to be like God. 
This is this is you. 

670
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,390
At some point it just becomes 
like anxious frittering, like 

671
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,790
you're just sort of like, I 
don't know what you think you're

672
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,960
gonna accomplish in these 10 
minutes before this thing here, 

673
00:38:48,970 --> 00:38:53,240
but you'd be better off like 
centering yourself, sitting 

674
00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:58,260
before the Lord, doing a few 
deep breaths, praying, you know,

675
00:38:58,270 --> 00:39:00,000
whatever. 
Seeing what he's going to do, 

676
00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:01,660
because I think that's also 
beautiful. 

677
00:39:01,670 --> 00:39:05,860
I remember my second sermon. 
I've only had three guests. 

678
00:39:06,050 --> 00:39:09,700
My second one, there was like 
one word that I didn't know if I

679
00:39:09,710 --> 00:39:13,160
wanted to say, just the way that
it made the sentence sound. 

680
00:39:13,210 --> 00:39:16,880
And I was like, OK, when I get 
to this part, like it's gonna be

681
00:39:16,890 --> 00:39:19,560
1 or the other. 
And that like that was a 

682
00:39:19,570 --> 00:39:23,040
surrender of I don't know how 
this is going to land, but this 

683
00:39:23,050 --> 00:39:28,180
is how I'm giving this to you 
and that and I strongly felt 

684
00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:30,760
like you gotta say it this way. 
And it's not always like that. 

685
00:39:30,770 --> 00:39:34,730
But I think that is the 
beautiful way that when you have

686
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:37,820
that open communication with 
God, when you have that knowing 

687
00:39:37,830 --> 00:39:41,570
and being known by him, like 
those fruitful things come out 

688
00:39:41,580 --> 00:39:43,730
of it because he knows more than
you do. 

689
00:39:43,980 --> 00:39:49,530
Maybe someone was thinking us or
it landed for one person because

690
00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:54,210
of that and for anywhere in your
life for a situation that is he 

691
00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:56,890
knows more than we do. 
And that's why I think it's so 

692
00:39:56,900 --> 00:39:58,950
crucial for the work of the 
church as well. 

693
00:39:59,140 --> 00:40:03,560
That's great. 
OK, so one final kind of thought

694
00:40:03,570 --> 00:40:07,620
connected to all of this is like
we've all been in situations 

695
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:15,620
where someone else seems to have
like chosen rest while we're 

696
00:40:15,630 --> 00:40:18,100
kind of carrying the load. 
Like we see someone like someone

697
00:40:18,110 --> 00:40:22,260
having maybe they're literally 
having an app or or like their, 

698
00:40:22,270 --> 00:40:26,940
you know, taking a day off. 
Meanwhile, we're busting our 

699
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:30,300
butts trying to do the thing, 
whatever that, whether that's 

700
00:40:30,310 --> 00:40:35,110
something in in search life or 
something in your house or, you 

701
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,890
know, I don't know whether you 
like group projects and in 

702
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:41,170
school and someone knows someone
not pulling their weight and, 

703
00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:43,170
and, and it's like, Nope, sorry,
today's my day off. 

704
00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:46,170
I'm not touching it, you know? 
And it's like, like, so like, 

705
00:40:46,180 --> 00:40:50,670
how do you, Yeah, like, how do 
you like, not become like bitter

706
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,250
and resentful, like toward that 
person, Right. 

707
00:40:53,260 --> 00:40:56,720
And, and like there's a question
that sometimes or there's a word

708
00:40:56,730 --> 00:41:00,510
that sometimes I never, I feel a
bit like mixed on the word 

709
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,830
itself. 
And the word is balanced because

710
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,190
I feel like life, it balance is 
not possible in, in life. 

711
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,180
Like, like balance, like that's 
a, it's a nice ideal, very 

712
00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:12,410
unrealistic. 
And, and sometimes not even the 

713
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:14,220
thing we need, right? 
Sometimes we don't need balance.

714
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:17,820
But is there a balance here? 
Like how do we, you know, the, 

715
00:41:17,930 --> 00:41:23,860
this, this, you know, this 
tension between like, Hey, I 

716
00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:29,720
deserve, you know, rest and to 
be with Jesus and to slow down. 

717
00:41:29,770 --> 00:41:32,170
Those are all good things that 
we all need and deserve in many 

718
00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:38,440
ways versus doing, you know, I 
don't know, like just RIP off 

719
00:41:38,450 --> 00:41:40,110
that with me. 
Yeah, I think. 

720
00:41:40,170 --> 00:41:43,660
And we see that in the passage, 
like Martha's like Jesus, dude, 

721
00:41:43,830 --> 00:41:46,360
do you not see my sister? 
She's not doing anything. 

722
00:41:46,370 --> 00:41:48,120
I'm very stressed right now. 
Probably. 

723
00:41:48,130 --> 00:41:49,840
Probably resentful. 
Yeah. 

724
00:41:49,850 --> 00:41:54,100
And I think that's that's 
dangerous to specifically in the

725
00:41:54,110 --> 00:41:59,140
church when that resentfulness 
like festers and you are just 

726
00:41:59,150 --> 00:42:04,100
like this one person never. 
That is a dangerous thing and I 

727
00:42:04,110 --> 00:42:07,170
think that is where I don't 
fully know. 

728
00:42:07,180 --> 00:42:12,310
That is an open question that I 
invite you us to tackle and to 

729
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,870
reflect on. 
But I think a crucial part of 

730
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,380
this is boundaries. 
Having like tangible, like these

731
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:24,950
are the expectations. 
Sometimes it is easy in church, 

732
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,210
in a church to just be like 
wherever it goes. 

733
00:42:28,340 --> 00:42:32,590
And that is great too, because 
we want to be the people open to

734
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,400
Jesus moving, but I think it's 
also dangerous and we don't want

735
00:42:37,410 --> 00:42:39,740
volunteers to burn out. 
We don't want people that work 

736
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:42,280
here to burn out. 
We don't want, but we also want 

737
00:42:42,290 --> 00:42:45,660
people to have rest and everyone
to have moments of rest and time

738
00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:49,180
to be with Jesus. 
So if there's one person doing 

739
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:51,880
that where everyone else is 
trying to pull the work, the 

740
00:42:51,890 --> 00:42:54,500
weight of the work, that's also 
not good. 

741
00:42:55,010 --> 00:42:59,900
So it's like that balance and 
like real expectations and 

742
00:42:59,910 --> 00:43:03,760
communication and you don't have
to leave Jesus out of that. 

743
00:43:03,770 --> 00:43:07,700
Like going forth in the like 
praying and seeing and seeing 

744
00:43:07,710 --> 00:43:11,800
where different people have 
strengths versus weaknesses. 

745
00:43:12,210 --> 00:43:16,760
In just an example, like a Bible
study, like who is the person 

746
00:43:16,830 --> 00:43:19,820
that is volunteering that you're
like, they would be great up 

747
00:43:19,830 --> 00:43:22,500
front leading this. 
And then who are the people that

748
00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:25,470
would be really good as like a 
table leader, who would be 

749
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,680
really good at drawing people 
out, who would love to set up 

750
00:43:28,750 --> 00:43:31,840
and who would love to take down 
and those kind of things. 

751
00:43:31,850 --> 00:43:36,900
So like, putting people in 
places where they can thrive is 

752
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:40,880
fundamental. 
But then also checking yourself,

753
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,680
like when you're like, OK, I 
like you see that person that 

754
00:43:44,690 --> 00:43:48,760
you think maybe is taking a nap,
Maybe they had a really hard 

755
00:43:48,770 --> 00:43:51,100
week. 
Maybe something's going on. 

756
00:43:51,110 --> 00:43:54,810
And maybe that's the place where
you can be invited to check on 

757
00:43:54,820 --> 00:43:57,580
them or to go say, hey, how's it
going? 

758
00:43:57,670 --> 00:44:00,440
And yeah, so that's many 
thoughts. 

759
00:44:00,690 --> 00:44:05,330
I don't know what. 
I had I had a thought and and 

760
00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:08,140
this probably came from 
somewhere, but it it entered my 

761
00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:10,910
brain. 
And so if this is if I owe 

762
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,570
someone, you know, a, you know, 
a footnote, too bad. 

763
00:44:16,140 --> 00:44:20,870
But like, one thing that I think
is so important for us as a 

764
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,730
church and for like our, you 
know, our our staff team, but 

765
00:44:24,740 --> 00:44:27,970
also just down into our 
volunteers is that we value 

766
00:44:28,060 --> 00:44:31,600
people over productivity. 
That's where I think I might 

767
00:44:31,610 --> 00:44:32,710
need the footnote. 
I don't know. 

768
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:34,040
That might have come from 
somewhere else. 

769
00:44:34,050 --> 00:44:38,040
But yeah, it is a good whether 
it came from my brain or the 

770
00:44:38,050 --> 00:44:40,450
Lord or somewhere else, it's a 
good line. 

771
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,110
We need to value people over 
productive productivity. 

772
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,670
And, and just like, like, 
especially in the church, like 

773
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,250
we are, you know, yeah, we got 
stuff we need to do. 

774
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,730
We've got, we've got thing there
are things to get done. 

775
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,470
You, you know, you've been 
running our social media. 

776
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,970
I was like, I was feeling it for
you a little bit. 

777
00:44:57,980 --> 00:45:00,390
I was like, you were, you were 
finishing up writing a sermon 

778
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,990
for this past week. 
And also you were like, you 

779
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,230
know, rightfully so, like 
bugging me for like things you 

780
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:08,910
needed for, you know, some of 
the, the social media posts. 

781
00:45:09,150 --> 00:45:11,620
And I'm like, oh, I feel bad 
that Annabelle's got to do all 

782
00:45:11,630 --> 00:45:12,630
that plus. 
Right? 

783
00:45:13,090 --> 00:45:17,280
Yeah. 
But like I think that that is a 

784
00:45:17,290 --> 00:45:23,530
right approach that we see like 
you as a person and your health,

785
00:45:23,590 --> 00:45:28,060
your spiritual, physical, mental
well-being matters more than 

786
00:45:28,070 --> 00:45:31,820
getting the thing done right. 
And that's the way that I want 

787
00:45:31,830 --> 00:45:34,900
us to be as a church for our 
volume. 

788
00:45:34,910 --> 00:45:40,170
So if a volunteer ever came to 
me and said and said, like, Hey,

789
00:45:40,180 --> 00:45:43,250
I, I'm going through some stuff 
right now, my first thing will 

790
00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:45,970
be well, then quit, like quit 
what you're doing like, like 

791
00:45:45,980 --> 00:45:49,970
that matters more. 
And, and for us to be able to 

792
00:45:49,980 --> 00:45:52,750
say like, look, God, God, if 
this thing needs to happen, God 

793
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,050
will provide like we, we believe
that, right? 

794
00:45:55,060 --> 00:45:57,150
So. 
Yeah, I think that's, and I 

795
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,310
think that comes out of knowing 
and being known by Jesus, 

796
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,150
specifically knowing Jesus, Like
Jesus's ministry wasn't just 

797
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,830
like convert all these people. 
It was checking in on people. 

798
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,250
It was seeing how they were 
doing. 

799
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,620
It was going, it was 
relationships with people. 

800
00:46:11,790 --> 00:46:15,070
And I think maybe that's one of 
the ways that churches can get 

801
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,860
it wrong sometimes of if it's 
the numbers of how many people 

802
00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:21,570
came to church this week or how 
many new people came to church 

803
00:46:21,580 --> 00:46:23,440
this week or how many people 
have we invited. 

804
00:46:23,490 --> 00:46:29,120
It's good to invite people, but 
it is not the the key. 

805
00:46:29,130 --> 00:46:33,400
Like we checking those boxes, 
trying to put numbers to it. 

806
00:46:33,410 --> 00:46:36,440
And again, it's good fire codes 
safety, good to know. 

807
00:46:36,450 --> 00:46:38,980
All the. 
Things, but it is not the main 

808
00:46:38,990 --> 00:46:40,740
focus. 
Our main focus are people, 

809
00:46:40,750 --> 00:46:43,620
having relationships with people
and making sure people are OK. 

810
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:44,940
Yeah. 
And yeah. 

811
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:47,500
And there's even attention 
within that of like, of like, 

812
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:50,860
you know, you, you wanna have, 
like, you know, this is like 

813
00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:55,030
very business. 
You like language, like you 

814
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,970
wanna metrics met metrics are 
not A bad thing. 

815
00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:59,050
Like there's OK. 
Like there are things that goals

816
00:46:59,060 --> 00:47:01,610
we want to strive for, things 
that we want to see happen And, 

817
00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:04,170
and like, is otherwise nothing 
will happen. 

818
00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:08,270
But also like there's a there, 
there becomes a threshold where 

819
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,670
it can become like a little bit 
icky, you know, And I remember 

820
00:47:12,740 --> 00:47:17,010
in a, in a, in a previous 
season, there was someone, 

821
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:22,210
someone who was involved in, in 
a church leadership situation. 

822
00:47:22,220 --> 00:47:24,620
And, and one of the things that 
they were suggesting was like, 

823
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:27,840
hey, like, how many baptisms are
you gonna do this year? 

824
00:47:27,850 --> 00:47:30,050
How many salvations? 
And I'm like, well, whoa, whoa, 

825
00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:32,260
whoa. 
That doesn't sound like my job. 

826
00:47:32,270 --> 00:47:34,480
Like, and I don't mean that in a
way that like we're, you know, 

827
00:47:34,550 --> 00:47:39,000
obviously like we have a role 
in, in like encouraging people 

828
00:47:39,010 --> 00:47:43,340
to be baptized or to encouraging
people to walk and take steps 

829
00:47:43,350 --> 00:47:45,400
toward faith, right. 
Those are, those are things, 

830
00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:47,420
right? 
But like, at some point it can 

831
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:52,440
veer into, well, I got to meet 
this goal in this metric anyway.

832
00:47:52,450 --> 00:47:56,650
It's it's gave me the ick when I
was in my early 20s and still 

833
00:47:56,660 --> 00:47:57,990
does now. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

834
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:03,330
I think it's that our goal 
shouldn't be that our goal 

835
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,070
shouldn't be metrics and stuff. 
It is a great byproduct and it 

836
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,350
is we should be ones to 
facilitate that. 

837
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,190
And of course we we have a 
mission and vision for a reason,

838
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:16,490
because we want to be trusted 
neighbors. 

839
00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:20,910
We want to be people that seek 
God's radical Kingdom and bring 

840
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,910
it forth. 
And we need a business approach 

841
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,620
in a sense, for that, of course,
to run a building could have 

842
00:48:27,630 --> 00:48:31,220
staff to do all those things. 
But if that becomes the primary 

843
00:48:31,230 --> 00:48:33,440
focus, then what makes us 
different from any other 

844
00:48:33,450 --> 00:48:37,040
business? 
Because that we're not. 

845
00:48:37,250 --> 00:48:41,650
We're supposed to be the body of
Christ and seeking out God's 

846
00:48:41,660 --> 00:48:44,910
Kingdom. 
Yeah, and it and it, you know, 

847
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:50,410
makes me exceptionally more 
grateful for those who are who 

848
00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:56,230
do have that, that mindset to be
able to kind of run the facility

849
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:58,810
and of things in the finances 
and all the things that like 

850
00:48:58,820 --> 00:49:02,310
man, like that's, that's not the
way my brain works. 

851
00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:08,010
And like, God bless those folks.
And so there are many of them in

852
00:49:08,020 --> 00:49:11,390
our church community that, you 
know, we are eternally grateful 

853
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,230
and indebted to. 
So anyway, anything else you 

854
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:17,490
want to say that you didn't get 
a chance to say earlier? 

855
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:20,630
And I think that was, I think 
that was, yeah, I think that's 

856
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,550
good. 
I think it's just the main like 

857
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,350
knowing and being known by God. 
And to know that individually, 

858
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,130
that's great. 
But as a community, that is also

859
00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:30,530
something we should actively be 
pursuing. 

860
00:49:30,580 --> 00:49:33,850
That's great. 
Well, thank you again for all 

861
00:49:33,860 --> 00:49:38,150
that you poured out for us and, 
and in the middle of like 

862
00:49:38,220 --> 00:49:44,990
midterms the other week, like 
man, you are, you're just 

863
00:49:45,110 --> 00:49:49,150
remarkable to see that all come 
to, you know, all come to 

864
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:54,090
fruition and, and just grateful 
for grateful for this and for 

865
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:57,490
Lord willing Moore. 
And so, like I said earlier, if 

866
00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:01,740
you have any questions or 
thoughts connected to the sermon

867
00:50:01,750 --> 00:50:04,420
from the previous Sunday, feel 
free to send them to questions 

868
00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:07,750
at corychurch.org. 
And so we hope that some of 

869
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,220
these conversations will help 
guide some conversation for you 

870
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:15,680
in your in your household with, 
with friends, with, with who, 

871
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:16,940
whomever you're interacting 
with. 

872
00:50:16,950 --> 00:50:20,310
And so we hope this has been 
helpful and we'll see you next 

873
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:20,430
time.
