1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,650 Hey friend, welcome to another episode of the Sunday Sit down 2 00:00:03,660 --> 00:00:08,470 and if you are watching, our seats have been reversed. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,470 If you're listening, our seats have been reversed and. 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,750 It makes no difference. It makes no difference because 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,700 we sound the same. But this is a great, this is a 6 00:00:17,710 --> 00:00:20,050 great opportunity that I have to sit down with Justin, who 7 00:00:20,060 --> 00:00:23,100 preached this past Sunday on a long passage. 8 00:00:23,110 --> 00:00:25,210 I gave him a long passage. I have. 9 00:00:25,220 --> 00:00:27,590 Been doing to me. I know I've been, we've been 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,009 going so like close to verse by verse, like just 46 verses at a 11 00:00:32,020 --> 00:00:37,170 time and now 24 verses on Communion Sunday, World 12 00:00:37,180 --> 00:00:41,070 Communion Sunday, no less, and. I missed out on that, sorry. 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:47,110 No, I, yes, that's fine. I think I, I appreciate that. 14 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:52,270 What I, what I intend for our community is there will be years 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,750 where we talk about that kind of stuff and there will be years 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,730 where we don't, because what's most important is still our own 17 00:00:59,780 --> 00:01:01,220 community. Like we've always been this way. 18 00:01:01,230 --> 00:01:04,780 Like aren't we doing the like preaching politics? 19 00:01:04,790 --> 00:01:06,390 And this is what's going on in the world. 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,470 And we're going to talk about this and we're going to preach 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,670 on that. Like we don't do that because. 22 00:01:10,750 --> 00:01:12,180 We're going through. Like, you get it. 23 00:01:12,190 --> 00:01:13,500 Yeah, exactly. For a long time. 24 00:01:13,510 --> 00:01:14,800 You get enough of that in your life. 25 00:01:14,810 --> 00:01:17,450 You're bombarded by stuff all the time. 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,510 And one of the rhythms that you talked about this week is this 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,670 rhythm of being gathered together, like sitting in God's 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,110 presence, wrestling out what it means to be known by Jesus and 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,950 to know Jesus and then to wrestle out our scent. 30 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:35,850 Ness. Yeah. 31 00:01:35,900 --> 00:01:37,410 Back into the world. So. 32 00:01:38,140 --> 00:01:40,700 So should preaching be completely disconnected from 33 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:42,510 what's going on in the world? No, Absolutely not. 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,110 No. But there are also seasons and 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,570 moments where, like, that's not what it's about. 36 00:01:47,660 --> 00:01:50,550 It's about Jesus. We root ourselves in Scripture 37 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,740 and there's a little bit of like a respite and retreat. 38 00:01:54,750 --> 00:02:00,790 And, you know, we need to sit in in with a community, the 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,110 presence of God, and then feel like we can go back into the 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,500 world. No, like that's like some of the 41 00:02:06,510 --> 00:02:11,560 rhythm of what we do, which is just great because that informed 42 00:02:11,570 --> 00:02:14,920 so much of the large arc of your sermon. 43 00:02:16,340 --> 00:02:20,550 But 24 verses, loop 10, one to 24. 44 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:22,050 We're not going to read all of it. 45 00:02:22,060 --> 00:02:24,420 No. If you wanna pause, maybe we'll 46 00:02:24,430 --> 00:02:28,130 drop a link to Bible Gateway or the You Version app in the 47 00:02:28,140 --> 00:02:30,750 description. You can go and read it yourself. 48 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,830 It's a great passage. Jesus sending out the disciples. 49 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,340 And initially didn't think that like I was like, this could be 3 50 00:02:38,350 --> 00:02:40,490 sermons. But actually I think it was the 51 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:45,270 the right, the right call to make this one cohesive package. 52 00:02:45,340 --> 00:02:50,560 It's, it's a particular, it's a particular thing that Jesus and 53 00:02:50,570 --> 00:02:54,440 his disciples do. And then they unpack it and then 54 00:02:54,450 --> 00:02:56,140 they move on. And next week is going to be, 55 00:02:56,150 --> 00:02:59,370 you know, you'll be preaching from the, the Good Samaritan, 56 00:02:59,380 --> 00:03:02,380 the story of the Good Samaritan. And, and so it's a very clear 57 00:03:02,390 --> 00:03:06,760 delineation of like, hey, this was Jesus sending out the 72 and 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,800 then they talk about it. Yeah. 59 00:03:08,890 --> 00:03:13,460 The thing that I that I actually was noticing as you were 60 00:03:13,470 --> 00:03:14,880 preaching. So as you're preaching, and this 61 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:17,920 is like occupational hazard and a little bit again, of like 62 00:03:18,010 --> 00:03:19,250 insider baseball. Yeah. 63 00:03:19,290 --> 00:03:21,210 But like, as you're preaching, I'm all in. 64 00:03:21,220 --> 00:03:24,890 I'm like, I've got like a full page of notes from your sermon 65 00:03:25,060 --> 00:03:27,320 and to the right. Like that's on the left side of 66 00:03:27,330 --> 00:03:28,690 my notebook. On the right side of my 67 00:03:28,700 --> 00:03:31,690 notebook. I was just, like, firing out 68 00:03:31,700 --> 00:03:34,200 thoughts. These whole lot of connections 69 00:03:34,210 --> 00:03:35,800 to where we're headed this coming Sunday. 70 00:03:35,810 --> 00:03:38,330 So you're ready to? Go yeah, we'll be happy to help 71 00:03:38,340 --> 00:03:41,630 almost yeah. So it was like it's this that 72 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,650 dual, like you're always you're in and because of how you're 73 00:03:45,660 --> 00:03:49,520 preaching and what you're really leaning into, I'm oh, that's the 74 00:03:49,530 --> 00:03:51,720 tie in for next week. And here's how we go into the 75 00:03:51,730 --> 00:03:53,700 Good Samaritan. All these things are happening. 76 00:03:53,770 --> 00:03:56,840 It's actually I think so I noticed this as you're preaching 77 00:03:56,850 --> 00:03:59,420 as I was reading. I think it might actually be 78 00:03:59,430 --> 00:04:01,270 one. Still the same instance. 79 00:04:02,430 --> 00:04:07,040 That he's expanding on what's happening here at the with his 80 00:04:07,050 --> 00:04:10,360 dialogue with the disciples. I think so because it's it's 81 00:04:10,370 --> 00:04:15,840 from the crowd that they're rises this expert in the law to 82 00:04:15,850 --> 00:04:20,019 challenge Jesus who? And so it's like it's almost 83 00:04:20,029 --> 00:04:24,420 like it's so it's happening very much at the same time in the way 84 00:04:24,430 --> 00:04:27,340 Luke presents it. So anyway, but we're gonna save 85 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:30,720 that for next week. Yeah, where where we had thought 86 00:04:30,730 --> 00:04:34,420 about starting today is 24 versus you're gonna leave a lot 87 00:04:34,430 --> 00:04:38,400 on the cutting floor in order to preach that in less than 24 88 00:04:38,410 --> 00:04:42,340 hours. So there's a lot going on in 89 00:04:42,350 --> 00:04:47,160 this passage around connection to the Old Testament and the 90 00:04:47,170 --> 00:04:49,820 imagery that Jesus is using in his language. 91 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,970 You know, before off camera we were taught you're like, I just 92 00:04:54,980 --> 00:04:58,350 want some time to nerd out on some of these details. 93 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,560 I need it. I need it like there's so much. 94 00:05:00,570 --> 00:05:03,610 And I was talking with someone after the service yesterday who 95 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:10,590 mentioned in this person is very knowledgeable on on like Old 96 00:05:10,660 --> 00:05:15,050 Testament, like he, he's a he's a geography nerd when it comes 97 00:05:15,060 --> 00:05:17,030 to biogeography. And she was talking about some 98 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,190 interesting facts about about the the places Jesus mentioned, 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:26,720 like Beth, Sada, Burnham, Korzen, like, and so I kind of 100 00:05:26,730 --> 00:05:28,900 like fed him a little bit more. I was like, Hey, well let me 101 00:05:28,910 --> 00:05:31,790 tell you these other like crazy facts that are happening that 102 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,280 didn't preach well but were like, we're going to 103 00:05:36,290 --> 00:05:40,040 undergirding some of this. So let's let's fill in that for 104 00:05:40,050 --> 00:05:42,780 people. And we would say this like, if 105 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:46,460 this is just so boring that you can't stand it, don't turn it 106 00:05:46,470 --> 00:05:47,920 off. Skip ahead. 107 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:50,430 I can't give you the timestamp because we're recording this 108 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,210 right now. Probably like 4 or 5 minutes. 109 00:05:54,500 --> 00:05:56,770 I'll try shorter, double that. Yeah, yeah. 110 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,410 We're going to, we're going to go into, I think, 4 really 111 00:06:00,420 --> 00:06:04,970 practical questions after this. So the whole, the whole podcast 112 00:06:04,980 --> 00:06:08,790 episode won't be this like deep dive into the background. 113 00:06:08,860 --> 00:06:10,920 We're going to do a little bit of deep dive and we're going to 114 00:06:10,930 --> 00:06:12,210 get into four really practical questions. 115 00:06:12,220 --> 00:06:14,330 So you can skip ahead to those 4 practical questions. 116 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:16,460 If we think about it, we'll leave that in the show notes so 117 00:06:16,470 --> 00:06:18,720 you can check it. Out or go on like 1.5 speed and 118 00:06:18,730 --> 00:06:21,140 just be like, OK, maybe this is interesting, maybe it's not. 119 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:24,520 And this is one of those things where like yeah, we don't want 120 00:06:24,590 --> 00:06:26,900 this to be the focal point, right? 121 00:06:26,910 --> 00:06:31,420 Like this is not the most important thing, but sometimes 122 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:39,180 it's helpful to remember what Luke is doing here and and what, 123 00:06:39,460 --> 00:06:44,180 what Jesus in some of his language and actions is drawing 124 00:06:44,250 --> 00:06:48,270 the people back to, right. In this case, it's Moses. 125 00:06:48,540 --> 00:06:53,400 And and we've seen that a number of times with throughout Luke 126 00:06:53,410 --> 00:06:57,380 already where where there are these callbacks and illusions 127 00:06:57,390 --> 00:07:02,680 with an A back to the Old Testament to particularly Moses 128 00:07:02,770 --> 00:07:06,960 and, you know, Jesus in the wilderness, Jesus coming down 129 00:07:06,970 --> 00:07:08,770 the mountain. Like all these are like it's 130 00:07:08,780 --> 00:07:14,190 it's very they're making it pretty clear Jesus is a new 131 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,930 Moses. Hmm. 132 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,070 And so the backdrop here, as some scholars were were sharing 133 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,080 in the commentaries, is that this passage seems to be 134 00:07:25,090 --> 00:07:29,270 happening somewhere around what is called the the Feast of 135 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,300 Tabernacles or the Feast of Booths in I think in Hebrew. 136 00:07:32,310 --> 00:07:34,670 It's a so-called I probably butchered that. 137 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,970 I'm so sorry to our Jewish friends. 138 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:43,580 I tried and Sukkot happens several days after Yom Kippur, 139 00:07:43,590 --> 00:07:45,860 which was last week. My, my daughter was telling me 140 00:07:45,870 --> 00:07:47,900 she was learning about that in school because they, they had 141 00:07:47,910 --> 00:07:51,190 tend to learn about all the different festivals and their in 142 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,190 their, you know, in, in their school, which is, which is 143 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:58,060 pretty cool actually. So here's what's crazy. 144 00:07:58,130 --> 00:08:02,220 So I'm preaching this passage that the backdrop of it is the 145 00:08:02,230 --> 00:08:06,390 Feast of Tabernacles, which we'll get into that's starts 146 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,220 tonight in real time. So this is I'm, we're recording 147 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:13,690 this on October 6th, 2025, and the Feast of Tabernacles falls 148 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,650 on the evening of October 20 or October 6th, 2025 for the next 149 00:08:18,660 --> 00:08:20,950 week. It's a it's a festival that 150 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,690 traditionally people would pilgrimage for, to, to 151 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:29,550 Jerusalem, to the temple. And this is an important holiday 152 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:35,080 that calls back to G to Moses and the Israelites in the 153 00:08:35,090 --> 00:08:40,840 wilderness in God's provision of of manna and the quail and just 154 00:08:40,850 --> 00:08:45,200 food, and eventually became more about just God's provision of 155 00:08:45,210 --> 00:08:46,400 the harvest. Right. 156 00:08:46,930 --> 00:08:52,620 And so all of a sudden, when Jesus says the harvest is 157 00:08:52,630 --> 00:08:56,440 plentiful, hmm, they're thinking, Oh yeah, a feast of 158 00:08:56,450 --> 00:08:58,650 tabernacles. That's, that's exactly, that's 159 00:08:58,660 --> 00:09:01,020 exactly what's happening. I'm the harvest is plentiful, 160 00:09:01,030 --> 00:09:03,740 but the workers are few. And so pray to the Lord of the 161 00:09:03,750 --> 00:09:07,220 harvest, right. And so like, it brings so this 162 00:09:07,230 --> 00:09:13,120 greater depth to what Jesus is saying when you know this. 163 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:17,450 And again, in the, in the way that I had kind of been 164 00:09:17,460 --> 00:09:21,380 structuring my sermon, it just, it did not fit, but it was just, 165 00:09:21,390 --> 00:09:23,880 it was underlying there. And I was like, I just got to 166 00:09:23,890 --> 00:09:25,260 talk about it because it's just cool. 167 00:09:25,540 --> 00:09:28,150 And then even later on in the passage, you know, when Jesus 168 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,170 talks about, you know, this little kind of obscure language 169 00:09:31,180 --> 00:09:34,670 where he talks about Satan falling from heaven and, and 170 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,330 like a lightning, like a rod of lightning. 171 00:09:37,340 --> 00:09:41,910 And then and then you know, that they will trample on on snakes 172 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,060 and scorpions. And I mentioned a little bit of 173 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:47,710 this in the sermon that the snake is definitely, I think an 174 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:53,990 allusion to Genesis chapter 3. But also Moses in talking to the 175 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,830 people were also, we're also commanding them that you will, 176 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,160 you know, you will be safe from harm from snakes and scorpions 177 00:10:03,170 --> 00:10:06,360 and poisonous snakes and scorpions in particular in the 178 00:10:06,370 --> 00:10:09,170 desert. And the final thing, and then 179 00:10:09,180 --> 00:10:14,650 I'll then I'll be quiet for a second, is that Jesus is set, 180 00:10:14,660 --> 00:10:18,920 like I said, sending out 70 or 72 depending on how you count, 181 00:10:20,060 --> 00:10:25,250 which is the amount of elders that Moses commissioned. 182 00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:29,430 It was particularly in the context of Moses realizing he 183 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,430 can't do it all. He all the kind of pastoral care 184 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,390 type stuff all over the decisions that need to be made. 185 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,630 He can't do it all. And, and so his father-in-law 186 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,830 came to him and was like, Moses, sort your stuff out here, dude, 187 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,090 Like you can't do it. And, and, and then, so then they 188 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:46,570 developed this system of, of elders that are responsible for 189 00:10:46,580 --> 00:10:49,050 the groups in of Israelites, right? 190 00:10:49,060 --> 00:10:53,650 Which then turns into eventually becomes sort of the Sanhedrin 191 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,870 so. I cannot picture how long those 192 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:03,650 meetings were. 72 elders, Little long meetings, that's all. 193 00:11:03,660 --> 00:11:06,220 That's all you got to say. We have what, 5? 194 00:11:06,410 --> 00:11:08,560 Yeah, shorter meetings. Sure. 195 00:11:09,550 --> 00:11:11,630 Yeah. So I think the last thing too 196 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,680 that I see in it is Jesus sending out the disciples, 197 00:11:16,730 --> 00:11:24,350 sending and sending out the 7072 with nothing as as again, just 198 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,770 saying, hey, you you've seen, you know, what God has done for 199 00:11:27,780 --> 00:11:30,050 his people in the wilderness, how he provided. 200 00:11:30,380 --> 00:11:33,810 So go with that same faith that he will continue to provide. 201 00:11:33,870 --> 00:11:36,030 Yeah. And you know, he's like, so 202 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,410 don't take a coat, don't take any, don't take extra things, 203 00:11:38,420 --> 00:11:41,430 don't take food. Like, just go and be where you 204 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,770 are and lean into those relationships and eat what's put 205 00:11:45,780 --> 00:11:49,550 in front of you, which is its own, you know, interesting 206 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:53,250 statement. All of this with this backdrop 207 00:11:53,260 --> 00:11:57,170 of one of the three feasts where, like, Jewish men were 208 00:11:57,180 --> 00:12:00,290 commanded to go to Jerusalem and to go and make sacrifice at the 209 00:12:00,300 --> 00:12:03,190 temple. And here's the same moment where 210 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:08,180 Jesus is saying no, go out, be sent out with nothing, Don't 211 00:12:08,190 --> 00:12:12,220 take anything and eat what's in front of you and go with the 212 00:12:12,230 --> 00:12:13,400 Kingdom. Like all of it. 213 00:12:13,410 --> 00:12:15,160 I think all of it. What we've talked about so far 214 00:12:15,170 --> 00:12:25,520 is all of this is Luke setting up this large narrative where 215 00:12:25,530 --> 00:12:32,080 the reader ought to see Jesus as the new Moses and his Kingdom as 216 00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:34,820 the new Israel. Like this is what this is what 217 00:12:34,830 --> 00:12:36,220 Luke is doing. I think this is what Jesus is 218 00:12:36,230 --> 00:12:37,460 doing. I think this is what God is 219 00:12:37,470 --> 00:12:39,350 doing. But, you know, and obviously we 220 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,300 don't want to go too far down, like there's, you know, some 221 00:12:41,310 --> 00:12:43,710 dangerous roads of supersessionism. 222 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,580 And like, yes. But really what Jesus is doing 223 00:12:47,590 --> 00:12:53,050 is saying all of these longings, all of these pieces of identity, 224 00:12:53,060 --> 00:12:58,220 all of these stories, all of this history has been leading us 225 00:12:58,230 --> 00:13:01,630 and showing us and revealing to us God's heart for us, God's 226 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,330 heart for the world. And there's more yet to come. 227 00:13:05,380 --> 00:13:08,050 And that God is doing a new thing here. 228 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,450 And, and when you look at, you know, again, context for the, 229 00:13:12,540 --> 00:13:17,730 the Jewish people in Jesus's day, they are, you know, in this 230 00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:21,670 land that they had been living in for centuries and now 231 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:26,920 occupied by, you know, multiple difference groups of like 232 00:13:26,930 --> 00:13:28,910 political entities over the centuries. 233 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,080 Yeah, now under Roman rule. And, and so they are feeling the 234 00:13:33,090 --> 00:13:35,820 pinch of this. And then Jesus is like, well, 235 00:13:35,830 --> 00:13:38,530 God's, God's gonna do something really cool here, here and here 236 00:13:38,540 --> 00:13:42,140 and here. Here is the, the enacting and 237 00:13:42,150 --> 00:13:45,770 living out of this new thing that God is doing. 238 00:13:45,780 --> 00:13:51,120 And so it it makes a lot of sense that Jesus would be 239 00:13:51,130 --> 00:13:54,600 intentionally setting setting it up this way. 240 00:13:54,670 --> 00:13:57,750 Yeah. And I think using language and 241 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:04,000 story that makes sense to the people in a way that I think 242 00:14:04,010 --> 00:14:08,540 like I read and I go, you would hope that they see, you know, 243 00:14:08,550 --> 00:14:12,560 Roman occupation and go, what is God gonna do? 244 00:14:12,730 --> 00:14:15,030 Like we know this story. Yeah. 245 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,140 Like we've been, our people have been here before and God has 246 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:23,140 always done something like this. So I think I do. 247 00:14:23,150 --> 00:14:24,920 I think Jesus is setting all of this up. 248 00:14:24,930 --> 00:14:29,340 And I think Luke especially is setting it up so that we, we're 249 00:14:29,350 --> 00:14:31,980 supposed to be asking that question, what is God doing? 250 00:14:32,110 --> 00:14:34,780 Where is Jesus taking us? Where are we headed? 251 00:14:34,850 --> 00:14:36,940 What is going to happen? Like we're supposed to be 252 00:14:36,950 --> 00:14:41,340 anticipating all of these things as we read our way through Luke, 253 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:44,790 ultimately culminating with the cross and Jesus death or 254 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,000 resurrection, new life church. You know, Luke is already 255 00:14:48,010 --> 00:14:53,300 setting up Acts where, you know, he he's gonna continue the story 256 00:14:53,310 --> 00:14:57,110 through the early church. But like I, I think we're 257 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,970 supposed to be anticipating some move of God. 258 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:05,280 And that's something that like, I would love for our church for 259 00:15:05,290 --> 00:15:11,480 listeners to hold on to and go, man, what a moment where like at 260 00:15:11,490 --> 00:15:17,940 every moment where the people of Israel here with the disciples 261 00:15:17,990 --> 00:15:22,420 still the people of Israel in Luke, like at every moment where 262 00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:25,180 they could have gone like this is the end. 263 00:15:25,250 --> 00:15:27,210 Like, this is it. This is like, how are we here 264 00:15:27,220 --> 00:15:30,440 again? Like despair and doom and gloom 265 00:15:30,450 --> 00:15:35,540 And, you know, the world is at war and it's chaotic and there's 266 00:15:35,550 --> 00:15:39,290 no peace and, you know, I can't make my own decisions about 267 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:40,840 life. All of these things. 268 00:15:40,850 --> 00:15:43,650 You just go, no, like God's gonna do something. 269 00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:49,370 And like, you listen. Like I, I think a lot of people 270 00:15:49,380 --> 00:15:54,690 wake up every morning and go, there's a lot of chaos and yeah, 271 00:15:54,700 --> 00:15:58,910 it can lead to doom and despair. And I I just got what like what 272 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,890 is got remaining curious to what God might do. 273 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,410 I, I left after my, after I was, you know, done the bulk of my 274 00:16:07,420 --> 00:16:11,790 sermon prep. I left this passage feeling an 275 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,880 immense hope, actually, you know, in, in a way that not, not 276 00:16:14,890 --> 00:16:17,910 that I like, I don't usually walk away from sermon writing in 277 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:24,810 despair, sure, but I, I felt like, I felt a real like, sense 278 00:16:24,820 --> 00:16:28,590 of hope of, of like God, God's doing stuff. 279 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:36,610 God is doing new things and, and, and, and just be praying 280 00:16:36,660 --> 00:16:40,410 for us as a church that we remain open to that even you 281 00:16:40,420 --> 00:16:44,450 know 2000 years later that we remain open to what God is 282 00:16:44,460 --> 00:16:45,890 doing. Yeah. 283 00:16:46,140 --> 00:16:51,420 So you just to jump off that you talked about the rhythm toward 284 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:55,810 the end of the sermon, the rhythm of our as the church sent 285 00:16:55,820 --> 00:16:59,740 witness is how I would describe it. 286 00:17:01,060 --> 00:17:06,480 This reality that for the church, we exist for Christians, 287 00:17:06,490 --> 00:17:10,490 we exist inside of this rhythm of being gathered together and 288 00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:13,230 being sent out and being gathered and being sent. 289 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,980 We've talked about this on Sunday mornings. 290 00:17:14,990 --> 00:17:22,720 And you know, I think one of my one of my mentors says that our 291 00:17:22,730 --> 00:17:31,890 gathering is 4 hour sending, that the reason we gather is to 292 00:17:31,900 --> 00:17:34,550 then be sent out. I have another friend of mine, 293 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,510 long time passer says like the most important moment of the 294 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,520 Christian worship service is the benediction. 295 00:17:40,620 --> 00:17:44,230 Yeah, because it's when you're sent back to where you get to 296 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,170 take the gospel to. So I want to talk a little bit 297 00:17:47,180 --> 00:17:49,830 about that. So Jesus, Jesus is sending the 298 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,230 72. He sends them ahead of him to 299 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,350 every town and place that he intended to go, which is an 300 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:57,330 interesting line. Yeah, I didn't even get into 301 00:17:57,340 --> 00:17:59,090 that. But like that was like, that is 302 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:01,590 such a fascinating approach, like that he's sending them 303 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,900 ahead and that they're gonna lay the groundwork and then he's 304 00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:06,150 gonna go and. And yeah, yeah, it's. 305 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,950 Cool. And again, like this imagery of, 306 00:18:09,620 --> 00:18:13,320 you know, messengers that we saw last week and that word being 307 00:18:13,330 --> 00:18:16,780 the same as angels, you know, he's sending them on. 308 00:18:16,790 --> 00:18:19,960 Again, this is this is Old Testament story imagery all 309 00:18:19,970 --> 00:18:24,020 through throughout, but he sends these 72 on. 310 00:18:24,530 --> 00:18:29,720 And so the really practical question is, I think, what do 311 00:18:29,730 --> 00:18:36,480 you think it looks like for us to live as sent people into our 312 00:18:36,570 --> 00:18:41,440 own backyards neighborhoods, because I think that's the myth 313 00:18:41,450 --> 00:18:44,650 is that, you know, for so long in in the Christian Church in 314 00:18:44,660 --> 00:18:49,900 the West, we talked about mission, the mission work Oregon 315 00:18:49,910 --> 00:18:55,900 arm of the church as being like global overseas mission trip. 316 00:18:55,910 --> 00:19:02,600 I'm using air quotes here style missions. 317 00:19:02,730 --> 00:19:07,380 And again, like one of my early mentors said, like your, the, 318 00:19:07,390 --> 00:19:09,300 the mission field is no longer overseas. 319 00:19:09,310 --> 00:19:12,840 You no longer have to get on or about to go and be on mission 320 00:19:12,850 --> 00:19:16,580 like your, your, your backyard. Like the Mission field is your 321 00:19:16,590 --> 00:19:19,980 backyard. And especially when you 322 00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:24,820 consider, I mean, here in our context in Canada start 323 00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:30,460 increasingly an international place, right? 324 00:19:30,570 --> 00:19:34,050 And and so the nations are not out there. 325 00:19:34,060 --> 00:19:37,420 The nations are here, right? And so and so that's a very 326 00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:38,880 different. And I mean, what's, what's 327 00:19:38,890 --> 00:19:42,260 interesting, I mean, even for us as a church, we've had lots of 328 00:19:42,350 --> 00:19:47,780 new friends coming from various parts of Africa and, and you 329 00:19:47,790 --> 00:19:51,530 know, they are already long-term committed, you know, some of 330 00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:54,680 them even Presbyterian, which is like been so much fun. 331 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:58,160 And so I mean, that just reminded me in and of itself, 332 00:19:58,230 --> 00:20:01,430 like, hey, actually like the, the mission, mission work isn't 333 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,290 out there across an ocean. Sorry. 334 00:20:04,300 --> 00:20:09,390 It is, But it, it isn't solely that, but that there is work 335 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,270 right here. And, and so I, I tend to think, 336 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,590 I mean, I think there's some, there are some professions that 337 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,310 are easier than others to sort of think through that lens. 338 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,810 I think about like someone like a teacher, you know, and 339 00:20:21,820 --> 00:20:23,640 there's, I know some churches that have actually like 340 00:20:23,650 --> 00:20:26,040 commissioned their teachers in, in the church and said like, 341 00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:28,040 Hey, you guys are going out there and not just the ones who 342 00:20:28,050 --> 00:20:29,290 are teaching at the Christian School. 343 00:20:29,390 --> 00:20:32,470 But those were going into the public system, into the Catholic 344 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,000 board, whatever. And and so like they, you know, 345 00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:39,240 they get commissioned because they're going on there shaping 346 00:20:39,250 --> 00:20:41,880 these kids minds, right? They are, they have a very 347 00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:45,610 obvious on ramp, right. But then you have like someone 348 00:20:45,620 --> 00:20:47,680 who are like, you know, someone in middle management who is just 349 00:20:47,690 --> 00:20:49,460 sort of like doing his daily grind. 350 00:20:49,470 --> 00:20:51,760 Like what what about that person, right? 351 00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:55,760 And I, and I think about what it, what it is to like be the 352 00:20:55,770 --> 00:21:01,020 best middle manager you could possibly be and to, to do your, 353 00:21:01,030 --> 00:21:06,970 your work with integrity, to be a, a source of, of positivity, 354 00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:10,210 to be a source of joy in, in your workplace. 355 00:21:10,310 --> 00:21:13,370 And I think obviously there are some practical things to do to 356 00:21:13,380 --> 00:21:18,590 be more just vocal about. And I'm careful as I say that 357 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,100 because I was the moment, the moment I think about someone 358 00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:23,610 being vocal about their faith, honestly, But my connotation is 359 00:21:23,620 --> 00:21:26,330 automatically negative, right? Which is not a good thing. 360 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,550 That's the, that's not a good thing. 361 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,250 That's where my mind goes. But it does. 362 00:21:29,460 --> 00:21:31,750 Because when, when someone says you got to be more vocal about 363 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,150 your faith, I think, oh, that person is going to be a jerk. 364 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,280 Yeah, yeah. Whereas I think that when, when 365 00:21:37,290 --> 00:21:40,920 I think about that, I think about just like someone who is 366 00:21:40,930 --> 00:21:44,980 able to freely really talk about, Hey, this, this part of 367 00:21:44,990 --> 00:21:49,380 my life is important, you know, and, and, and that hopefully we, 368 00:21:49,390 --> 00:21:52,700 we back it up by the way, we're living right? 369 00:21:52,770 --> 00:21:56,100 That, that it's not like, hey, this part of my life is really 370 00:21:56,110 --> 00:21:57,780 important, that I'm a follower of Jesus. 371 00:21:57,850 --> 00:22:03,440 And then they end up being poor examples for Jesus in their 372 00:22:03,450 --> 00:22:06,630 workplace or whatever. But also like in our in our 373 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:13,720 neighborhoods, I think about some friends who they they after 374 00:22:13,730 --> 00:22:15,580 school, for instance. So a lot of a lot of parents 375 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:19,280 will gather after school. One of the things that I see 376 00:22:19,290 --> 00:22:23,180 happening a lot of the times is the moms and dads just 377 00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:27,610 connecting and just letting the kids play at the playgrounds and 378 00:22:27,620 --> 00:22:29,850 letting them hang out and the parents get to have like some 379 00:22:29,860 --> 00:22:33,450 adult time, like just get to chat and just be, you know, not 380 00:22:33,460 --> 00:22:35,070 think about all that. And I'm like, what an 381 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:41,910 opportunity that is there just to, to be present to, to care 382 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,890 for one another. We've, we've had that. 383 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:48,430 There was an instance in my daughter's school, the tragic 384 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,510 situation that happened. And, and I would say it was some 385 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,700 of some of the Christians that I know in, in my daughter's school 386 00:22:55,780 --> 00:23:00,560 who stepped up to, to be a light to, to be the one to sort of 387 00:23:00,570 --> 00:23:02,680 like I'm gonna help start the meal train. 388 00:23:02,850 --> 00:23:06,260 I'm gonna, I'm gonna do all the things like that is the way that 389 00:23:06,270 --> 00:23:08,640 Christians can show up in a profound way. 390 00:23:09,070 --> 00:23:11,180 Yeah, yeah. And so like a really practical 391 00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:14,990 way, like we're going to, we're going to make sure that, you 392 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,970 know, this situation's got food for as long as they need. 393 00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:19,550 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. 394 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,990 That's amazing. Yeah. 395 00:23:21,060 --> 00:23:24,740 So, you know, I, I think one of the one of the questions that I 396 00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:28,360 would love people to wrestle out, I need to wrestle out every 397 00:23:28,370 --> 00:23:32,050 day. Though admittedly, I think our 398 00:23:32,060 --> 00:23:35,610 occupation here makes it different. 399 00:23:36,590 --> 00:23:38,500 Little bit the moment we're in the public and someone like, 400 00:23:38,510 --> 00:23:41,010 what do you do? Wow, how do I answer? 401 00:23:41,060 --> 00:23:47,010 Let me bore you in 30 seconds. No, I think the the one of the 402 00:23:47,020 --> 00:23:50,540 questions that I would love people to wrestle out is how is 403 00:23:50,890 --> 00:23:58,430 how is my how is my job? How is the job I do different 404 00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:00,370 because I am a follower of Jesus? 405 00:24:00,940 --> 00:24:08,940 Is it is the culture of my employer, employment company? 406 00:24:08,990 --> 00:24:13,340 Like is is anything different because I am a Christian? 407 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,600 It should be. It should be, yeah. 408 00:24:15,650 --> 00:24:19,260 And I think that's a that's a sobering question to ask because 409 00:24:19,270 --> 00:24:24,350 I think sometimes we just check our, you know, not brains at the 410 00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:27,120 door, but you just kind of go into this like autopilot and 411 00:24:27,130 --> 00:24:29,630 you're like, I just gotta get this job, job done. 412 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,470 Yeah. And then I can go back to life. 413 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,500 And so I think that's that's a question that might help people 414 00:24:36,510 --> 00:24:39,550 wrestle that out, right. How how is how is this place 415 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,390 different? Because I am here Because I 416 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,210 think here's the here's the second part of the question is 417 00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:49,200 like what? What would change in your daily 418 00:24:49,210 --> 00:24:54,610 posture toward others, toward your workplace, toward people, 419 00:24:55,040 --> 00:25:02,130 if you expected Jesus to show up in your workplace or in your 420 00:25:02,140 --> 00:25:04,460 neighborhood? Are you talking like show up 421 00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:06,740 like Rapture? Through, not through you, yeah, 422 00:25:06,750 --> 00:25:08,150 Yeah. Just just clarify. 423 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,850 No, no. So I like, I think, I think 424 00:25:09,860 --> 00:25:14,270 sometimes we, I think sometimes we distance ourselves from like 425 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,800 the yeah, we love for God to show up and like. 426 00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:19,770 In the church gathering. Well, or even, like in the 427 00:25:19,780 --> 00:25:22,130 world. Yeah, in a way that I'm still, 428 00:25:22,140 --> 00:25:25,610 like, distant from like, yeah, God, you do your thing. 429 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,970 Like, you show up, you speak to that person, you convict. 430 00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:33,740 Like I'm going to pray for them. Great thing to do, pray for 431 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:36,460 people never gonna say that's a bad thing. 432 00:25:36,590 --> 00:25:38,760 But I think sometimes we can, like we can distance ourselves 433 00:25:38,770 --> 00:25:41,720 from the actual relationships by saying, oh, well, I pray for 434 00:25:41,730 --> 00:25:43,060 them. Like I pray for my colleagues at 435 00:25:43,070 --> 00:25:45,260 work and I pray that they change, you know, their hearts 436 00:25:45,270 --> 00:25:46,930 and their minds about who Jesus is. 437 00:25:46,940 --> 00:25:51,400 And, and and you know, when I land on the work floor, I just 438 00:25:51,410 --> 00:25:53,910 do my job as though nothing changes. 439 00:25:53,970 --> 00:25:57,460 But I'm praying for you. And you know, I think the 440 00:25:57,470 --> 00:26:00,620 expectation is no. So Jesus, Jesus doesn't show up 441 00:26:00,630 --> 00:26:06,290 himself to all these towns and places, but he sends 72 into 442 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:07,520 them. Hmm. 443 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:14,410 And so I think, you know, one of the things that we need to be 444 00:26:14,420 --> 00:26:20,040 open to is the fact that the Jesus might be intending to show 445 00:26:20,050 --> 00:26:23,680 up through you. It's like, Dang it, I, I thought 446 00:26:23,690 --> 00:26:26,890 I was just a forklift driver, you know, like, yeah, sorry, 447 00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:29,690 actually the, the responsibility is greater than that. 448 00:26:29,740 --> 00:26:34,030 Yeah, I say that as I had a brief stint as a forklift driver 449 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:41,970 in my when I was 2019 or 20 and I was not a great Christian 450 00:26:41,980 --> 00:26:46,310 witness and I probably had a bad attitude a lot of the time. 451 00:26:46,420 --> 00:26:49,330 And, and I, I think back as just as I'm thinking about this, I'm 452 00:26:49,340 --> 00:26:56,960 like, man, I, I could have been such a greater, um, a greater 453 00:26:56,970 --> 00:26:59,860 witness in that, in that, in that season where I, but I 454 00:26:59,870 --> 00:27:02,910 probably looked a little bit too much and acted a little bit too 455 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:08,970 much like everyone else there. I think I tried sometimes like 456 00:27:08,980 --> 00:27:12,630 where, you know, like some of the, some of the attitude and 457 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,160 content that was coming out of these, that this group of these 458 00:27:17,170 --> 00:27:19,680 group of guys there, like it was not always great. 459 00:27:19,690 --> 00:27:23,080 And, and, and I, you know, I tried to very gently just say 460 00:27:23,090 --> 00:27:25,780 like, Hey, I'm not into that guys, you know, but like that 461 00:27:25,790 --> 00:27:29,140 even that can be that's not particularly helpful for like 462 00:27:29,150 --> 00:27:31,670 letting them see Jesus in some profound way. 463 00:27:31,950 --> 00:27:35,100 But I do think about like, you know, other work settings, that 464 00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:37,800 one is challenging, but I think about like some work settings 465 00:27:37,810 --> 00:27:41,390 people actually have done like like alpha courses in their in 466 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,560 their workplace. That's like a very specific 467 00:27:43,570 --> 00:27:45,120 thing. Like that's like a very like, 468 00:27:45,130 --> 00:27:48,320 hey, like I'm going to be intentionally evangelistic. 469 00:27:48,330 --> 00:27:49,340 And here's the thing I'm going to do. 470 00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:51,470 And sometimes it's worked amazingly. 471 00:27:52,850 --> 00:27:57,240 That is probably not going to work in a lot of contexts. 472 00:27:57,250 --> 00:27:59,340 Hmm. You never know. 473 00:27:59,430 --> 00:28:03,580 Yeah, like a mentor of mine tells the story of two 474 00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:08,440 neighbors, right? And two families fairly similar 475 00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:15,760 to empty nesters married couple and so, you know, kids are gone 476 00:28:15,770 --> 00:28:17,760 off to university work, etc, whatever. 477 00:28:17,770 --> 00:28:20,240 Like, you know, maybe they're mids kind of mid 60s at this 478 00:28:20,250 --> 00:28:22,840 point. And I don't know if this is 479 00:28:22,850 --> 00:28:23,860 made-up story. I think it is. 480 00:28:23,870 --> 00:28:29,680 But anyways, he so he tells the story of to two different roads 481 00:28:29,730 --> 00:28:32,240 that you can take as a as a Christian. 482 00:28:32,790 --> 00:28:35,740 And the one is that I'm going to, I'm going to wait until 483 00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:40,660 something happens in your life. And in that moment, I'm going to 484 00:28:40,670 --> 00:28:42,090 be there. I'm going to support you and I'm 485 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,020 going to say, hey, you know, I'm going to invite you to church. 486 00:28:44,030 --> 00:28:46,890 Can I pray for you? Like, you know, what can I do? 487 00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:51,130 And and and they go, OK, that's, that's not a bad option, right? 488 00:28:53,250 --> 00:28:58,370 But the other option or the other route is so here are these 489 00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:01,040 two neighbors and and he actually fleshes out this story. 490 00:29:01,050 --> 00:29:03,920 So here are these two neighbors and one of the spouses, one of 491 00:29:03,930 --> 00:29:06,920 the wives dies. You know, she's going through 492 00:29:07,030 --> 00:29:12,250 cancer dies. And in that moment, buddy show 493 00:29:12,260 --> 00:29:14,300 his next door neighbor shows up like they've waved at each 494 00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:16,590 other, had kind of the neighborly talks whatever come 495 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,350 across troubling snow. And so he shows up and he's 496 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,920 like, hey, do you want to come to church with me? 497 00:29:21,970 --> 00:29:23,980 Like you want to talk to a pastor? 498 00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:26,380 Like you wanna do this? Cool, great. 499 00:29:26,390 --> 00:29:27,820 Maybe that goes somewhere, right? 500 00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:32,770 Here's the other option. Neighbor moves in early on, 501 00:29:32,780 --> 00:29:36,620 figures out that this next door neighbor loves cars. 502 00:29:36,950 --> 00:29:39,770 Part of a car club. But he's like, hey, you know, I 503 00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:42,760 want to get to know my neighbor. Neighbors, not a Christian. 504 00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:46,940 I think you should know Jesus. I'm gonna join that. 505 00:29:47,010 --> 00:29:50,340 I'm gonna join that car group. Not not as like a project to 506 00:29:50,350 --> 00:29:55,190 work on like as like a, you know, a kind of last minute like 507 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,270 switch like well, tricked you, but like I'm gonna genuinely 508 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,930 invest in this guy Like he he he enjoys this thing. 509 00:30:01,940 --> 00:30:05,780 I'm gonna, I'm gonna join the thing and I'm gonna go to the 510 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,380 like, I'm gonna build a relationship with him. 511 00:30:08,430 --> 00:30:10,900 Yeah. And, you know, they do that. 512 00:30:10,910 --> 00:30:13,120 They become great friends. He's open about his faith. 513 00:30:13,130 --> 00:30:16,400 He you know one neighbor knows that the other is a Christian. 514 00:30:17,650 --> 00:30:19,780 Other neighbor died, his wife dies. 515 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:26,370 And in that moment you have all of those years of cultivating 516 00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:28,620 meaningful, genuine friendship relationship around these 517 00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:32,830 things. So, you know, my my one is one 518 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,070 of my professors at seminary. And like he uses that story to 519 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,120 just talk about our the opportunity that we have as 520 00:30:39,130 --> 00:30:41,570 Christians to be intentional about building relationship and 521 00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:45,570 earning the right to be heard. And, you know, the one moment 522 00:30:45,660 --> 00:30:48,020 waits until something horrible has happened. 523 00:30:48,030 --> 00:30:50,250 And then you're like, hey, you know, can I talk to you about 524 00:30:50,260 --> 00:30:51,840 Jesus? Like, dude, like, what are you 525 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:53,910 doing? Like, yeah, this isn't like, 526 00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:55,820 this isn't great. Like this is not great. 527 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,570 Like you, you know, I don't know you. 528 00:30:57,580 --> 00:30:59,920 You don't know me well, like Shot, like don't talk to me 529 00:30:59,930 --> 00:31:01,990 about this stuff. Like I'm, I'm grieving. 530 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,250 But if the trust has been built, yeah, and and they're as like 531 00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:09,690 you have, you have the the genuine relationship. 532 00:31:09,740 --> 00:31:12,510 And you've shared your faith like it's you can't, it can't be 533 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,690 the bait and switch. It can't be like, oh, you 534 00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:18,110 thought I was like you tricked. You can't let me tell you why I 535 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,530 was really here. Like it has to be a genuine part 536 00:31:20,540 --> 00:31:22,760 of the relationship all like the whole way through. 537 00:31:22,770 --> 00:31:26,150 But those are two very different outcomes to the same event in 538 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,910 somebody's life. Yeah, right. 539 00:31:27,950 --> 00:31:32,270 So I think that's the piece, Like, every single day you have 540 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,320 the opportunity to earn the right to be heard and to develop 541 00:31:36,330 --> 00:31:39,780 meaningful relationships with people around you who are 542 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:41,580 wrestling life out. Yeah. 543 00:31:41,670 --> 00:31:44,460 And, and who will go through very difficult seasons and who 544 00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:48,120 we believe need to know Jesus. I can stand at the corner of my 545 00:31:48,130 --> 00:31:53,710 street and wave a, you know, sign at them every morning, or I 546 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,370 can actually invest in. Be in their life. 547 00:31:56,380 --> 00:32:02,190 And yeah, because 11 is is about trust and genuine friendship and 548 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,550 and and and mutuality. The other can border on 549 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,810 predatory. Like I'm going to wait until 550 00:32:09,820 --> 00:32:13,240 you're at your most vulnerable. That's like, that's icky. 551 00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:15,470 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 552 00:32:15,540 --> 00:32:19,310 So like, listen, like if I'm going to choose one for like the 553 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,850 culture of our church, our way of being, it's gonna be that 554 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,140 like, hey, get into your communities, invest in people, 555 00:32:27,210 --> 00:32:30,620 build real, authentic, meaningful relationships, share 556 00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:33,080 your faith. Don't hide who that part of you 557 00:32:33,090 --> 00:32:35,180 is. Be an integrated person. 558 00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:37,670 Like, you know, use that language. 559 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,680 Don't become somebody else to earn their friendship and then 560 00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:46,710 flip on the Christian ease. Like just be yourself and and 561 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,600 then I think be surprised by how God's gonna use you in those 562 00:32:49,610 --> 00:32:52,540 relationships. Yeah, in ways that you never 563 00:32:52,550 --> 00:32:55,220 would have imagined. So like that for like for the 564 00:32:55,230 --> 00:32:56,900 culture of our church that that's. 565 00:32:56,910 --> 00:33:00,850 It and it's slow and inefficient. 566 00:33:00,910 --> 00:33:04,210 Yeah. But it but it does it, it, it 567 00:33:04,270 --> 00:33:08,400 it's going to produce a better result, Yeah. 568 00:33:08,670 --> 00:33:13,480 So, yeah, sent to people. OK, so that's one question. 569 00:33:13,490 --> 00:33:18,730 Here's another question. So Jesus says when you enter a 570 00:33:18,740 --> 00:33:21,730 house, first say peace to that house. 571 00:33:22,340 --> 00:33:27,440 And I started thinking about John 14 and here's this prayer. 572 00:33:27,450 --> 00:33:29,990 I'm going to flip over to it and read it. 573 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,050 So this is in the context of like John's got this kind of 574 00:33:35,060 --> 00:33:43,700 long drawn out series of teachings and and then prayers. 575 00:33:43,710 --> 00:33:45,750 What do they call that again? Preparation. 576 00:33:46,990 --> 00:33:50,120 The the so that's the farewell discourse, right? 577 00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:54,620 Yeah, is is part of it. So, but in in John 14, we get 578 00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:58,920 this great line. And so I think so I wrote it 579 00:33:58,930 --> 00:34:01,110 down so I wouldn't forget. It's verse 27. 580 00:34:01,690 --> 00:34:06,430 So, so he's, he's in this, this is the start of it. 581 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,370 He says these things. I've spoken to you while I'm 582 00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:11,420 still with you, but the helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father 583 00:34:11,429 --> 00:34:14,800 will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring 584 00:34:14,810 --> 00:34:16,820 to your remembrance all that I have said to you. 585 00:34:16,830 --> 00:34:20,370 So this is like we said so. So Jesus is starting to get his 586 00:34:20,380 --> 00:34:24,420 disciples ready for the day where he will not be with them. 587 00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:27,900 And then he says, peace. I leave with you my peace. 588 00:34:27,969 --> 00:34:31,110 I give to you not as the world gives do I give to you. 589 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,550 Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid. 590 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,989 And then he says, you've heard me say to you, I am going away. 591 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:45,670 And so so it's that one line like peace I leave with you, my 592 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:49,260 peace I give to you. And I started thinking through 593 00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:54,929 this idea of so polarized anxious cultural moment. 594 00:34:55,219 --> 00:34:58,950 We have talked for a long time about being in that, like in the 595 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:04,240 age of anxiety. So, you know, I don't think 596 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:09,360 people need too much explanation to understand how anxious our 597 00:35:09,370 --> 00:35:14,500 culture has been and is and how pervasive that is just 598 00:35:14,570 --> 00:35:17,400 generalized and acute, both of these things. 599 00:35:17,410 --> 00:35:22,530 So here's the question. I think we talk about peace as 600 00:35:22,540 --> 00:35:25,000 something that we want to consume. 601 00:35:26,430 --> 00:35:30,870 Like we pray that I would experience peace or that you 602 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,140 would experience peace, that it's something we receive and it 603 00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:35,800 is like peace is a gift from God. 604 00:35:35,810 --> 00:35:37,890 Absolutely. The benediction go in peace. 605 00:35:37,930 --> 00:35:42,070 Yes, and that's like that is a blessing that we're going to 606 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,940 speak over you. It's not a we hope you 607 00:35:43,950 --> 00:35:47,840 experience peace. No, go knowing the peace of God 608 00:35:47,850 --> 00:35:50,870 like go knowing the love of God's grace, the Lord Jesus 609 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,240 Christ friends with this piece of those like those are things 610 00:35:53,250 --> 00:35:57,680 that we say go with. We're speaking them over you as 611 00:35:57,690 --> 00:36:03,540 a blessing, yes. OK, so to kind of riff off that, 612 00:36:04,490 --> 00:36:08,670 how do you think we can shift from being people who just want 613 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,130 to experience peace ourselves to be people who speak that piece 614 00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:15,410 over others? So Jesus speaks it over his 615 00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:19,200 disciples, just actually prays for it for all, all, all people 616 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,370 speaks it over you, speaks it over you, listener. 617 00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:25,750 And yes, it's for you. But also, we know Jesus says 618 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,680 blessed are the peacemakers. So yeah, how do we shift from 619 00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:34,930 just wanting to experience peace ourselves to not only being ones 620 00:36:34,940 --> 00:36:41,120 who pray for peace, but who actually speak it into and over 621 00:36:41,170 --> 00:36:44,660 people's lives? I wonder if like, so there's a 622 00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:48,540 part of me thinking myself, OK, but like, if I am going to be so 623 00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:55,820 the person who is, is able to extend peace, not just be a 624 00:36:55,830 --> 00:37:00,090 consumer of peace, but to be a, a person of peace, a peacemaker, 625 00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:06,180 someone who is going and, and being a in the, in the embodied 626 00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:10,530 piece of Jesus wherever I go, you know, like in this passage 627 00:37:10,540 --> 00:37:12,600 in, in Lieutenant. So he says, Jesus says when you 628 00:37:12,610 --> 00:37:15,890 enter a house for say peace to this house, if someone who 629 00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,870 promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them. 630 00:37:18,940 --> 00:37:24,150 If not, it will return to you. And, and I think about the piece 631 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,010 that I want to offer others. First off, I have to have it 632 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,750 right. I have to, I have to be be a 633 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:38,090 recipient of that piece. So, and I maybe like countering 634 00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:41,060 your question a little bit of like actually we do need to 635 00:37:41,070 --> 00:37:43,550 consume it first, like we we need to. 636 00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:46,240 Maybe receiving is a is a better word though. 637 00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:52,770 To receive the peace of Christ, to know that it is present, to 638 00:37:52,780 --> 00:38:01,760 be able to be still and know that he's God, to be able to. 639 00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:04,870 And, and I'm, and I'm noticing even as I'm talking about this, 640 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,930 I'm like, I'm, I'm kind of settling into my seat a bit more 641 00:38:06,940 --> 00:38:09,540 because I'm like reminding myself of these truths. 642 00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:12,500 And all of a sudden it's like I'm breathing a little deeper 643 00:38:12,510 --> 00:38:17,180 because I'm like, OK, let me settle into the piece of Christ, 644 00:38:17,230 --> 00:38:19,860 right? That he offers And and it, and 645 00:38:19,870 --> 00:38:28,680 it is, it is something that can, I would say, reduce or even 646 00:38:28,690 --> 00:38:32,920 eliminate my anxiety. And I don't necessarily mean 647 00:38:32,930 --> 00:38:34,960 that I want to be careful in like that. 648 00:38:34,970 --> 00:38:38,260 There, there is, there's clinical anxiety that sometimes 649 00:38:38,270 --> 00:38:40,920 we need medication for. And this is our weekly pitch for 650 00:38:40,930 --> 00:38:43,440 therapy and things like that. Yeah, exactly. 651 00:38:43,570 --> 00:38:46,500 But but as someone who's done all that, as someone who's done 652 00:38:46,510 --> 00:38:50,000 all the things, like I know all the tools, I know all the 653 00:38:50,010 --> 00:38:53,580 techniques I've done. I've done all the things that 654 00:38:53,590 --> 00:38:58,920 my, that my therapist and psychologist told me to do, but 655 00:38:58,930 --> 00:39:07,900 also something amazing happens when I sit quietly and I calm my 656 00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:09,620 mind before God. Hmm. 657 00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:14,070 And I bring my stuff before God and I breathe. 658 00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:17,900 You know, I love the idea of like breathing in the presence 659 00:39:17,910 --> 00:39:20,320 of God, like they're this rhythm of that. 660 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,790 All of a sudden I am these recipients of God's peace. 661 00:39:27,260 --> 00:39:33,030 I am no longer operating out of this, this cluttered, anxious 662 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:39,360 mind. And then and then I can be that 663 00:39:39,370 --> 00:39:42,180 person to the I think it's like this contagiousness, right? 664 00:39:42,190 --> 00:39:44,480 Like that. If you, if you walk into a room, 665 00:39:44,490 --> 00:39:46,720 I mean, you've seen it with people, right, Where someone is 666 00:39:47,470 --> 00:39:53,400 a highly anxious personality type, get them in a certain 667 00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:59,790 scenario and and the anxiety spreads like you can feel. 668 00:40:00,580 --> 00:40:06,770 I, I remember, I remember there was a particularly challenging 669 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,030 previous church challenging Christmas Eve service that we 670 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:16,790 were planning and there was someone who was helping run, run 671 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,630 it. I can't remember who it was, but 672 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,990 they were very anxious personality and it just made 673 00:40:24,060 --> 00:40:26,230 everything anxious. Yeah. 674 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,650 And what a difference when someone can come in and just be 675 00:40:31,660 --> 00:40:35,830 like, hey, everything's alright. Like, hey, we're like, we're, 676 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,930 you know, we're gonna, we're gonna make it through this. 677 00:40:39,270 --> 00:40:43,700 Everyone just take a second and, and just like centre yourself 678 00:40:43,710 --> 00:40:47,290 before God, you know, like there's, there's something the 679 00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:53,040 difference in the room when when that person A versus person B 680 00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:56,380 comes in and, and if they're helping lead and shape the tone 681 00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:58,530 of that room. And I think about that, yeah. 682 00:40:58,540 --> 00:41:00,900 Peace. I leave you and I And then so 683 00:41:00,910 --> 00:41:04,580 like you can, you can be that person for your workplace, for 684 00:41:04,590 --> 00:41:08,700 your home, for yourself. Like it's amazing. 685 00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:13,370 Yeah. Yeah, I so I read a book that 686 00:41:13,380 --> 00:41:16,150 I'll recommend. It's called so it's by Mark 687 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,820 Sayers and he writes a book called Non Anxious Presence. 688 00:41:20,380 --> 00:41:25,770 And so it's, it really is like learning to be non anxious 689 00:41:25,780 --> 00:41:30,200 presence in and in an anxious world. 690 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,030 And so, I mean, there's lots of, there's lots of great, great 691 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,810 quotes from it. But he talks about one of the 692 00:41:37,820 --> 00:41:42,980 things he talks about is that as like as a system is flooded with 693 00:41:42,990 --> 00:41:49,500 anxiety, one of the central markers of that system becomes 694 00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:51,520 reactivity. Yeah. 695 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,120 So you're just constantly reacting to things. 696 00:41:54,930 --> 00:41:58,840 Boy, that sounds familiar to our general state of being. 697 00:41:58,850 --> 00:42:01,310 Right. 2025. Right. 698 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,400 Yeah. So that's one of the reasons why 699 00:42:04,410 --> 00:42:09,760 I like how how Jesus, both, both both of these lines. 700 00:42:09,770 --> 00:42:14,200 So my piece, I give to you like peace, I give to you, my peace, 701 00:42:14,210 --> 00:42:17,010 I leave with you. I do not give as the world 702 00:42:17,020 --> 00:42:19,640 gives. So therefore don't be afraid. 703 00:42:20,450 --> 00:42:24,560 And what does that mean? So it's, it's not reactive, it's 704 00:42:24,570 --> 00:42:29,300 not conditional, It's not, you know, if you feel it, it's not 705 00:42:29,310 --> 00:42:32,300 when you feel it, it's this is a gift from God. 706 00:42:32,730 --> 00:42:35,460 And so I think there is something to be said about whole 707 00:42:35,470 --> 00:42:37,540 like holding on to that. So this is what you're like 708 00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:42,390 receiving this gift. Then I start thinking about, OK, 709 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:48,070 I don't need to be the one running around anxiously trying 710 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:53,610 to find peace, right? It is like anybody who's 711 00:42:53,620 --> 00:42:59,270 experienced any level of anxiety knows that the number one thing 712 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,500 you can't do when you're anxious is go. 713 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,150 I can't be anxious. I need to stop being anxious, 714 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,100 right? Like it's, it's kind of like 715 00:43:08,110 --> 00:43:10,950 you, you gotta, you gotta let it ride a little bit like it. 716 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,950 It is something that you have to move through. 717 00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:17,950 Like the more you fight anxiety, the more anxious you become. 718 00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:21,730 And you know, I think the more you fight for peace, the more 719 00:43:21,740 --> 00:43:27,630 you try to find it, the more you try to be the one who like who 720 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,580 gets it, the obviously the less peaceful your life is going to 721 00:43:31,590 --> 00:43:33,150 be, the more reactive it's going to be. 722 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,490 Really. Practically like, So this was 723 00:43:37,310 --> 00:43:42,400 you and I did this in, in real time where back in the winter we 724 00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:45,250 had a big snowstorm that, you know, dumped like 3 feet of 725 00:43:45,260 --> 00:43:48,280 snow. And so we went ahead knowing it 726 00:43:48,290 --> 00:43:51,680 was coming and did a pre record. And it, we, we, I think we were 727 00:43:51,690 --> 00:43:55,020 all having some like pandemic flashbacks. 728 00:43:55,250 --> 00:43:59,160 Yes, I was definitely. And I feel, I remember, is it OK 729 00:43:59,170 --> 00:44:01,320 if I say you, you were, you were feeling. 730 00:44:01,330 --> 00:44:02,600 It I was. Absolutely. 731 00:44:02,610 --> 00:44:06,560 And and and I was feeling OK. I was like and not, I'm not 732 00:44:06,570 --> 00:44:08,340 saying that I like pat myself on the back, but I was, I was 733 00:44:08,350 --> 00:44:11,200 feeling OK and I, but I, I saw, I saw and that's not normally 734 00:44:11,210 --> 00:44:12,760 you. That's not normally you, right? 735 00:44:12,860 --> 00:44:15,900 And I, but I saw it and I was like, OK, everyone, let's just, 736 00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:18,900 we're gonna gather around and we're going to pray and we're 737 00:44:18,910 --> 00:44:20,550 just gonna like take a moment to be still. 738 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,880 Yep. Because like and, and like that, 739 00:44:23,890 --> 00:44:26,990 that I think changed the dynamic because I think that there was a 740 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,330 little bit of like anxiety and stress just present in the room. 741 00:44:30,370 --> 00:44:33,910 And it's like, we, we got it. We that that's not going to the 742 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,240 result is not going to be what we want if that's the way we're 743 00:44:37,250 --> 00:44:39,100 approaching this. Yeah, that was a great moment. 744 00:44:39,110 --> 00:44:41,810 That was absolutely a great moment just to name this and go, 745 00:44:41,820 --> 00:44:44,250 hey, we're going to pray. I'm trying to throw you under 746 00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:46,330 the bus, Grant. We're feeling, No, I mean, 747 00:44:46,340 --> 00:44:47,520 listen, I'm happy to talk about it. 748 00:44:47,530 --> 00:44:50,040 Like absolutely was like I and I don't know where I was. 749 00:44:50,050 --> 00:44:52,600 I think I was surprised by it. Yeah. 750 00:44:52,650 --> 00:44:55,060 Yeah, I was like, man, like, what are we doing? 751 00:44:55,070 --> 00:44:58,040 I think what it was was like, I really didn't wanna cancel the 752 00:44:58,050 --> 00:44:59,620 service. I'm like, we can't do it. 753 00:44:59,630 --> 00:45:02,440 The last time we cancelled it, we didn't come back for two 754 00:45:02,450 --> 00:45:05,490 years. And that's what I was feeling 755 00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:10,190 was like the weight of this, like if we do this, what's gonna 756 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,750 happen next, right? Which is how that like, it's how 757 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:18,420 that anxiety grows and, and it's like it, it how it is how it 758 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,510 starts to shape the decisions you make. 759 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,910 And you made a great, you made a great leadership move and just 760 00:45:25,590 --> 00:45:29,680 spiritual move to name it, right, which is so important and 761 00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:32,780 say, hey, I think we're like you said, hey, I think we're all 762 00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:34,120 feeling this. Yeah. 763 00:45:34,530 --> 00:45:37,080 And so let's pray about it. Let's just pray. 764 00:45:37,090 --> 00:45:43,160 Let's settle down and then go. And you can feel in that moment, 765 00:45:43,210 --> 00:45:46,420 you could feel the temperature of the room shift. 766 00:45:47,210 --> 00:45:50,790 And then we recorded everything and had a great time doing it. 767 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:51,860 And we went on our way. And that was. 768 00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:57,230 It and Lindsey and my daughter and I built an awesome snow Fort 769 00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:01,330 in in our driveway or in our in our front lawn the next day 770 00:46:01,420 --> 00:46:02,970 after the church service and it was awesome. 771 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,370 And then next Sunday, we were. Back. 772 00:46:04,380 --> 00:46:06,580 Yeah, that's great. But I like that. 773 00:46:06,620 --> 00:46:11,610 So that is a just to say a couple like so a name, you named 774 00:46:11,620 --> 00:46:17,410 it, which is so important. And then you pray into it, which 775 00:46:17,420 --> 00:46:19,680 is so important. I think you did those things so, 776 00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:23,390 so well in that moment. So it's. 777 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:28,950 Yeah. I think even to even to just 778 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:37,240 simply take that as like the practical, OK, So what it you 779 00:46:37,250 --> 00:46:44,680 might not feel peaceful in the way that you assume you need to 780 00:46:45,290 --> 00:46:49,100 in order to be one who makes peace, because it's not about 781 00:46:49,110 --> 00:46:53,400 giving your peace. It's about bringing Jesus peace. 782 00:46:53,410 --> 00:46:58,310 Yeah. And so you can name that while 783 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,770 not fully experiencing it yourself all the time. 784 00:47:03,940 --> 00:47:07,720 And one other, one other thought is kind of correlating this to 785 00:47:07,850 --> 00:47:12,300 back to Genesis 12, the call of Abraham, where, where you know, 786 00:47:12,310 --> 00:47:16,380 they're, they're this people of this family is called to be a 787 00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:19,800 blessing to the nations. And the language I often use is 788 00:47:19,810 --> 00:47:24,420 that they were not called to be hoarders of, of blessing. 789 00:47:24,750 --> 00:47:30,480 And in a similar way, we are not called to be hoarders of peace 790 00:47:30,530 --> 00:47:34,400 that we don't peace is not the end. 791 00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:38,680 It is, it is not, it is not the end result just to have peace 792 00:47:38,690 --> 00:47:43,410 for me, right. The idea is that peace is is 793 00:47:43,460 --> 00:47:48,830 shared and spread to those around us as we experience it. 794 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,350 So it's it's similar track. Yeah. 795 00:47:51,460 --> 00:47:56,990 And dropping stuff, I think in in the same way that we would 796 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,650 articulate salvation. The end of salvation isn't your 797 00:47:59,660 --> 00:48:01,890 own sadness. Yeah, right. 798 00:48:01,940 --> 00:48:04,030 And we see this. This is what we see in you tease 799 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,510 this out in the at the beginning of the sermon where Jesus is 800 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,770 called at the beginning of Luke hmm's and then he calls his 801 00:48:12,780 --> 00:48:16,120 disciples and then those 12 are sent out and then more gather. 802 00:48:16,130 --> 00:48:18,640 Now he's sending out 72. We're already like this thing is 803 00:48:18,650 --> 00:48:22,140 ramping up. Yeah, beyond, you know what we 804 00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:26,360 initially picture when we're like, OK, Jesus 12 disciples, 13 805 00:48:26,370 --> 00:48:28,350 of them walking around. No, like there's hundreds at 806 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,080 this point of people who are just crowds constantly. 807 00:48:31,950 --> 00:48:35,700 So no, so good. OK, last question and I had to 808 00:48:35,710 --> 00:48:40,980 go to my real time written in a book sermon notes as I was 809 00:48:41,170 --> 00:48:43,970 listening writing these down. OK. 810 00:48:45,510 --> 00:48:50,880 So to flip off that probably related to being peacemakers, 811 00:48:51,090 --> 00:48:55,660 you talked about having single minded urgency. 812 00:48:55,710 --> 00:48:59,940 Yeah. And so here is the I don't 813 00:48:59,950 --> 00:49:04,030 believe paradox, but I think where we could fall into maybe 814 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,550 like a false dichotomy is like, what does it look like for us 815 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:14,810 today to have urgency for the Kingdom of God going out while 816 00:49:14,820 --> 00:49:18,570 also still being non anxious peacemakers? 817 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,920 They feel like they're at odds. They do feel like they're at 818 00:49:21,930 --> 00:49:25,870 odds. And and you see, I think it was, 819 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,330 was it was it last week or the week before the Rapture was 820 00:49:29,340 --> 00:49:30,830 apparently supposed to happen? Yeah. 821 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,200 And then, and then apparently there was a miscalculation. 822 00:49:33,210 --> 00:49:35,450 And maybe it's supposed to be like this week or the next week 823 00:49:35,460 --> 00:49:40,480 or whatever. I can't remember, but that ain't 824 00:49:40,490 --> 00:49:43,440 it. So that that all that does is, 825 00:49:43,450 --> 00:49:47,200 is and I don't, I don't really use TikTok, but like all I heard 826 00:49:47,210 --> 00:49:50,280 from from my friends was like everyone on TikTok is going 827 00:49:50,290 --> 00:49:55,380 insane about like and like genuinely like they're genuinely 828 00:49:55,390 --> 00:49:58,760 like the time is now. People like this is urgent. 829 00:49:58,770 --> 00:50:02,230 We need to like and, and I'm like, OK, OK, OK, back up, back 830 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:05,890 up. Like one day we should like talk 831 00:50:05,940 --> 00:50:08,790 about the rapture and, and what Jesus actually said. 832 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,830 But I'll leave that for today. I'll set that aside and just say 833 00:50:14,970 --> 00:50:21,640 that is not the sort of single minded urgency that I would be 834 00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:24,310 after, nor do I think it is what Jesus is after. 835 00:50:26,310 --> 00:50:28,580 Because in this case they had the the you know, the urgency 836 00:50:28,590 --> 00:50:31,900 was there because the time, you know, the time was short, 837 00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:35,630 practically speaking, for before Jesus was to go to Jerusalem, 838 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,620 right. So there is, there is a very 839 00:50:37,690 --> 00:50:42,050 specific need for urgency. Yeah. 840 00:50:42,140 --> 00:50:46,590 That doesn't, that doesn't mean we're not urgent. 841 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,500 That doesn't mean that that, that that doesn't mean there 842 00:50:48,510 --> 00:50:54,170 isn't an urgency today, because life is short and finite. 843 00:50:54,280 --> 00:51:01,550 And we do we do want to see the Kingdom of God made manifest on 844 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,350 earth in the same way we do want to see hope. 845 00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:09,040 Hope brought to people and life brought to people and peace 846 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:14,600 brought to people and and I think here's how I here's how I 847 00:51:14,610 --> 00:51:18,940 would think about this. We talked, you talked about a 848 00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:26,580 moment ago about the how acutely and generally anxious we are as 849 00:51:26,590 --> 00:51:32,410 a generation and as a people. The urgency, I think for me is 850 00:51:32,420 --> 00:51:38,930 actually like our world so desperately needs to know the 851 00:51:38,940 --> 00:51:44,230 peace of Christ. Our world so desperately needs 852 00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:48,770 to know the message of and hope of the good news of the Kingdom 853 00:51:48,780 --> 00:51:56,650 of God and to be anxious in our to be anxious and, and sort of 854 00:51:56,660 --> 00:52:04,690 like careless in the way that we go about sending that message, 855 00:52:04,700 --> 00:52:07,670 extending that message, verbalizing that message. 856 00:52:08,930 --> 00:52:12,140 You're going to have the opposite effect you want. 857 00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:17,450 And so, so I, I think about like just not not wasting 858 00:52:17,460 --> 00:52:20,680 opportunities when they present themselves like, because maybe 859 00:52:20,690 --> 00:52:25,240 there won't be another opportunity, you know, and I and 860 00:52:25,250 --> 00:52:29,920 I, you know, I don't mean that in a way of like, like dramatic, 861 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,340 you know, maybe they're going to die tomorrow, but but maybe, but 862 00:52:33,350 --> 00:52:35,080 maybe. And so if we take the 863 00:52:35,090 --> 00:52:38,110 opportunities, if we seize the opportunities that are before 864 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,970 us, that sometimes the Holy Spirit brings, prompts us to you 865 00:52:42,980 --> 00:52:47,480 and brings us to like, don't miss out on those. 866 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,190 Don't. And sometimes they're really 867 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,590 simple, just like, Hey, I, Justin, I want you to give a, a 868 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,330 note of encouragements to that cashier who looks like they're 869 00:52:57,340 --> 00:53:02,090 having a really junkie day, you know, and, and I, and I've done 870 00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:03,410 that before. And then there are times where I 871 00:53:03,420 --> 00:53:06,580 think I've ignored God's push and called to say or do 872 00:53:06,590 --> 00:53:09,040 something right. And but I just think seizing 873 00:53:09,050 --> 00:53:12,700 every opportunity, they're not at odds, you're right. 874 00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:15,010 But they could so easily be. Hmm. 875 00:53:15,050 --> 00:53:22,470 Yeah, I think it's why so at the risk of going too far down that 876 00:53:23,140 --> 00:53:27,830 rapture rabbit hole, like it it, it is why I think our theology 877 00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:31,730 informs and changes how we live every day. 878 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:38,050 Because what I would articulate, I believe about about heaven and 879 00:53:38,060 --> 00:53:45,790 eternity is that yes, there is, There is eternity with Jesus. 880 00:53:46,660 --> 00:53:51,350 And what I think the Bible articulates is with Jesus's 881 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:58,700 life, that Kingdom of God that will be and come in its fullness 882 00:53:58,750 --> 00:54:05,460 as a future oriented thing, is also in process of coming into 883 00:54:05,470 --> 00:54:09,220 being with Jesus now and is still. 884 00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:15,460 It's this weird place of it. It's here and now and it is not 885 00:54:15,470 --> 00:54:21,660 here fully. Um, and what I actually believe, 886 00:54:21,710 --> 00:54:24,340 you know. So like, do do do people die 887 00:54:24,350 --> 00:54:29,270 every day without knowing Jesus? Yes, but people also live every 888 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,630 day without knowing Jesus. And, and I genuinely believe 889 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,330 that life is better for knowing Jesus now. 890 00:54:36,580 --> 00:54:42,360 And all of the things that we know into eternity begin now. 891 00:54:42,430 --> 00:54:44,700 Yeah. And and so it's, it's, it is, 892 00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:48,020 you're right. Like it is people's experience 893 00:54:48,030 --> 00:54:51,640 of peace in its fullest sense, like fullness of life, 894 00:54:51,650 --> 00:54:54,720 wholeness, health, peace with God's, peace with others, 895 00:54:54,730 --> 00:54:57,870 rightness of relationship and life, all of it. 896 00:54:58,930 --> 00:55:03,340 Not as like a believe now and you'll eventually get there, 897 00:55:03,390 --> 00:55:07,080 yeah, but as a start to experience them now, start to 898 00:55:07,090 --> 00:55:10,280 like your life can actually begin to change now because of 899 00:55:10,290 --> 00:55:12,560 it. And so in that there's urgency. 900 00:55:12,570 --> 00:55:14,750 I'm not urgent. Like I'm not. 901 00:55:14,790 --> 00:55:16,990 I don't think there's urgency because I want to get people to 902 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,810 heaven when they die. I think there's urgency because 903 00:55:20,530 --> 00:55:22,560 I want people to experience heaven today. 904 00:55:22,690 --> 00:55:25,800 Well, and that's that idea of, you know, I mean, in the Lord's 905 00:55:25,810 --> 00:55:28,620 Prayer, like your Kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it 906 00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:31,360 is in heaven. And, and the, the inference 907 00:55:31,370 --> 00:55:35,840 there is that we want to see more of heaven on earth, right? 908 00:55:35,850 --> 00:55:39,260 And, and I mean, we can go down the weeds of like the 909 00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:43,060 eschatological implications or whatever, Like, you know, it's 910 00:55:43,070 --> 00:55:48,120 complicated, it's complicated. But the reality is when I think 911 00:55:48,130 --> 00:55:53,720 about the things that our world so desperately needs, it is man 912 00:55:53,730 --> 00:56:00,200 I I look at the the devastation of of conflicts and violence 913 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:08,730 and, and if, if these places knew and truly lived out and 914 00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:14,340 understood the Kingdom, how different that would. 915 00:56:14,350 --> 00:56:15,480 Be. Yeah. 916 00:56:15,890 --> 00:56:20,560 And, and it would, it would change the landscape of our 917 00:56:20,570 --> 00:56:26,230 world quite literally. And, and, and so I that's, yeah, 918 00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:28,920 that's where it feels more urgent because there, there is 919 00:56:28,970 --> 00:56:34,740 so many terrible things happening, both like events, 920 00:56:34,750 --> 00:56:39,460 world events, and then just like ways of being for people, for 921 00:56:39,470 --> 00:56:45,090 our our kids generation, that man without Jesus. 922 00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:51,310 I I truly think that there is without Jesus. 923 00:56:51,380 --> 00:56:54,470 There is something so deeply missing. 924 00:56:56,110 --> 00:57:01,440 So we want people to experience, receive the gift of peace, Hmm. 925 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,710 So that they can turn around and be non anxious peacemakers who 926 00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:07,730 still have urgency. Yeah. 927 00:57:07,740 --> 00:57:11,560 Because the Kingdom matters and life inside the Kingdom happens 928 00:57:11,570 --> 00:57:12,490 today. Yeah. 929 00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:14,070 And I think that's a great place to end. 930 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,010 Love it. Awesome. 931 00:57:16,060 --> 00:57:20,670 So 24 versus in under 30 minutes? 932 00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:24,870 I don't know how I did it. Yeah, this podcast is not under. 933 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,650 30 Definitely, definitely not, no. 934 00:57:26,660 --> 00:57:29,350 But hopefully this was helpful for you. 935 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:34,340 And as just as we unpack some of the nerdy stuff, but also some 936 00:57:34,350 --> 00:57:37,590 of the practical stuff as well. If you have questions, you can 937 00:57:37,780 --> 00:57:41,790 send them to questions at courtrightchurch.org and we'd be 938 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:48,010 happy to incorporate those into our weekly discussions over 939 00:57:48,020 --> 00:57:51,720 these sermons. And I want to bless you into 940 00:57:51,730 --> 00:57:56,680 your week and maybe even leave you with go in peace similar to 941 00:57:56,690 --> 00:57:58,700 the the benediction. So go in peace. 942 00:57:58,710 --> 00:57:59,200 God bless.