Hey friends, welcome to another episode of the KPC Podcast.
And we are well and good into summer now like this is this is
fun. It's hot, it's warm, it's cool
in this room for now, but I brought a lamp.
This is a new addition to our to our set.
If you're listening only I'm sorry, there's now a lamp here
where there wasn't a lamp. That's the nice lamp
description. It's an IKEA lamp, man.
That's all it is. It's but it's felt fitting
because pastors are notorious for like props, right?
Or like. There's there's an Instagram
page called Pastors with Props and it's quite funny.
Usually a ladder like that's what I like single most used
like object in sermons is a ladder.
It's just just so versatile. So it's my goal to never use a
ladder in a sermon, ever, for any sermon illustration
whatsoever. But great passage, fantastic
sermon that Lindsey preached yesterday for us, a recording on
Monday, but this past Sunday on this idea that nobody lights a
lamp, puts it under a bowl. I love the fact that and like we
didn't discuss this ahead of time, but like, you know, months
ago, whenever that was when we were figuring out the the
passages and breaking it down through the summer, what passage
on what week and then Lindsey agreeing to preach this Sunday.
I think I'm just constantly amazed like God is working so
far in advance on these things than we are, which is not an
excuse to like not prepare, but it is.
I just I love how like we plan and we prepare.
And then Lindsey preached that sermon.
I'm like listening to it, only her, like she was the one like
to preach that message. She was predestined.
Well, we're not we're not going that far today on we keep using
that on today's on today's podcast.
We're not gonna dive into that one, but I just absolutely love.
So like that opening illustration, like I didn't know
any of that. When we're like, OK, this is the
week that Lindsey has agreed to preach.
Here's the passage. And I just go like, thanks,
Jesus, for working so far in advance and surprising us.
And yeah, like we, we know that that's the case.
Like I feel like this is something I know.
We shouldn't be surprised. We shouldn't be surprised,
however. And yet I'm constantly amazed,
yeah, at how these things go. So great passage.
We're still in Luke chapter 8, so it's.
Only week what? Week 2.
It's only Week 2 and 8. But we'll be here for another
few weeks, which would be great. So our, our plan today, because
I'm not Lindsey, we are heading off on vacation later this week
and we have a million things to do.
But this is the part of my job and Lindsey also has her job and
so she won't be able to join us to, to be interviewed.
So this will be a little bit more discussion.
Grant thought up a few questions for us just to talk about and,
and I haven't even heard them yet.
So this is totally, totally off the cuff and we'll have a bit of
fun with. It and I think that if I could
say one thing just as we jump in here, you know, very likely
through the summer like this might be the flow of many of the
weeks and episodes of podcast. We don't think that that's a bad
thing. We think that it's different.
So the thing that I would say is for the summer, the episodes
will likely be less information based and tell us more about,
you know, what didn't make it into the sermon or what could
have like let's dive deeper into these points and more
application based. And I actually think that that
is a good thing for you who's listening because one of the
things we've been saying, we really want these episodes to
help you have your own conversations in greater
measure. And so word, yeah, we're focused
less here even on information for you and more on let's pose 3
questions that we bat back and forth that you can also think
through and try to answer for yourself.
And even better would be to get a group of people together, even
one other person, and discuss these exact same three
questions. So we want to give you some
questions for those discussions. So these are those if you want
to read the. Passage.
I'll read it. It's a nice short one.
So and I Lindsey yesterday read from the NRSV.
I'll I'll, I'll just read from the NIV here.
Great. So a lamp on a stand.
No one lights a lamp and hides it in a clay jar or puts it
under a under a bed. Instead, they put it on a stand
so that those who come in can see the light.
For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and
nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the
open. Therefore consider carefully how
you listen. Whoever has will be given more.
Whoever does not have even wet what they think they have will
be taken away from them. Yeah.
So again, like, I just thought it was like, thanks, Jesus, that
opening story that Lindsey told about the light that was left on
in her home growing up as like a sign it had a purpose.
I just thought was like the perfect into this passage.
I was sitting next to her dad and, and when she started
talking, he, I could hear, I could hear him sort of make a
noise of like he knows exactly where this is going, right?
Right. Yeah.
Which? Is great, which is, you know,
fantastic. So three questions and we can
just sort of work them through each like 1 by 1.
We might even if we figure it out, put the question up on the
of the video for those of you watching.
And so you can feel free to pause and answer the question
for yourself before we discuss it or after we discuss.
It depends on whether you want to be influenced by our
conversation. Yeah, which will change the
nature of how you answer, I'm sure.
Yeah, But I, I guess the, the opening question for me is
simply this, Well, I say simply, but this this early question
that Lindsey posed by saying there's the good news of the
gospel, right? The good news, the gospel, the
good news of the Kingdom. She had this line that that
said, and I'm not going to quote her verbatim, but the good news
is that Jesus is king. And I went, yes, like
absolutely. And like love that.
Like that line is I, I think as a preacher, as a pastor, as a
Christian, a follower of Jesus, like that line is so crucial for
us to get and understand and really allow the reality, the
truth of what Lindsay proclaimed with that line to like to sink
deep down and cause us to wrestle stuff out.
So the question is simply like what does it mean to call Jesus
King? And if I were to add like a
couple qualifier questions, they would be How is Jesus King And
how is Jesus not King in like personally in in my life, in,
you know, my family, families, life, kind of organization
culture, you know, for us as a church, like we named Jesus
King. What does it mean?
And then where is he king? Where might he not be king?
So I'm curious how that kind of question lands for you.
I've got my own sort of my own thoughts and response, but maybe
that first one doesn't mean to call Jesus King.
It feels, I mean, I, I'd be, you know, not to answer our question
with a question, but it but it raises a question for me of is
do we, do we distinguish between Jesus as Lord and Jesus as King
and, and, and do we see those as having different implications?
Maybe we just throw that back real quickly.
I don't know if you have thoughts around that.
Yeah, yes. So Lord curious is is certainly
like AA title. Yeah, I I think we probably and
yeah, this is great. I love that we, like neither of
us, have thought through these questions because we're on the
fly. And so the reason I think about
it is because we often one of the early Christian creeds is
Jesus is Lord, not Jesus is King.
We declare Jesus as King. But it it feels a little
different, right? So yeah.
So Lord to me and like 2 weeks ago, baptism membership Sunday,
we had people who publicly declared Jesus Christ is Lord.
Yeah, that one is so curious. Lord title is a title used in
Jesus's day, not just for Jesus, but for like masters, Lords.
Like these were people who had authority over you, who could
tell you where to go and where not to go, what to do and what
not to do. And like Jesus is a time and
culture and language is steeped in master slave or master
servant relationship. Now, you know, we hear slave and
we have a very likely a very not by a biased in a bad way, but
biased or just we could read that historically, culturally a
certain way from our North American, you know, experience
and history of slavery. All of that not aside, but you
know, for Jesus's day, for his culture, the language of Lord
and Master made sense as a way to talk about somebody who had
ultimate authority over you, right?
And I think as Christians, like I do think the Lord that as
title tends to, we tend to maybe over spiritualize it in in ways
that are unhelpful that that's we think of that as a name for
Jesus or like spiritual title, like Lord and Savior, right?
And so like immediately, it's just been spiritualized in a way
that maybe doesn't have full implication of like the quite
literal authority to say, Hey, do this, don't do this, go here,
don't go here. Jesus.
We named Jesus as King. I I, I think at least for me to
call Jesus King means that I exist within his Kingdom, not my
own Kingdom. Yeah, and that has more literal,
immediate implications for my authority, non authority, and
Jesus is true, like authority over me and over all of life to
say go here, don't go here, do this, don't go, don't do this.
And so I do think they're distinct, like they are
different titles for Jesus. Probably a little bit of overlap
for sure, but I, I just think that was, I wanted to make sure
I wasn't conflating the two and, and so, and so that is helpful
in, in, in answering which you've done a little bit of.
But I, I know for me, like I, I have a better sense of even
though we are not, I guess we technically in Canada have a
king via King Charles. Yeah.
But like we know that that's more of a, a figurehead in, in
our, you know, in, in the, you know, Commonwealth.
But we have a better framework for, for kings and, and good
kings and bad kings and kings who have exercised good
authority and judgment over there over their subjects and
kings who have ruled reigns of terror.
And you can read through any monarchy and, and see that.
And, and so it's, it's helpful for me when I look at Jesus as
King to see that Jesus is the best, the best kind of king, a
benevolent king, one who is after our best interests, one
who is truly selfless, right, one who is, is looking to
looking for the, for the greater good for all, all people, right.
And, and so when I look at Jesus as King, I I think about, I
think about a, a Kingdom that is saturated in the person who we
call king, right? And so when that person, when
that person is king, when that person is exercising their
leadership and showing who they are and revealing their
character, they are indicating this is the way that I want this
to be. And so when we look at the
person of Jesus, we see his, his, his compassion for the
least of these. When we, we see his love for the
rejects, we see his compassion and zeal for even those who are
on the just on the margins And, and they, he wants to bring them
in and also for justice, right? That there is a, there's a
justice component that sometimes is, as we see even in this
passage here, there's a, there's a part where like when light
gets exposed, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's scary.
And, and a good king and a good Kingdom will bring justice in
those areas where the light is exposed and it's bad and it's,
and needs to be corrected, right.
So I mean just a few thoughts off the top of my head.
Yeah. For for me, one of the things
that it means necessarily declare Jesus King means like
you get these yet these goofy like, you know, movies where
you're like, are you going to bend the knee?
Like will you bow before me? Right?
You get this like, you know, almost comedic dramatic riffs
on, you know, power and abuse of abuse of power and in some ways.
And then you get like Lord of the Rings, like that the third
book in Tolkien's trilogy, The Return of the King.
And like, there's this long-awaited return of the true
rightful king who will bring, like you've said, like justice
to the nations. And you know, like Tolkien
there, there's just spiritual, like Christian theology and and
imagery strewn throughout that whole series.
But I think that in what I hope the best way possible, when I
think of Jesus as King, that immediately leads me to think
through, OK, how do I need to submit to this king?
Because if this, if this is who the true king is, then it
immediately like if Jesus is king, that immediately means I
am not king. Yeah.
And we like, I think human beings like, and I mean in, in
many ways, like you can go all the way back to Adam and Eve in
Genesis, like the beginning of the book and things like we like
to rule our own little kingdoms and our bent in that direction.
Like we're naturally inclined to want to be the little kings of
our little kingdoms. And you know, I used that like
little there. That's not even, that's not
like, it's not even bad or like derogatory.
I'm just saying they're little tiny versions of what God is
trying to do, you know, throughout the entire world.
And we're like, yeah, but I just want my own piece here.
So like, when I think through how is Jesus King?
How is he not? Or even like, where is Jesus
King in my life? Where is he not?
Submission becomes the language that I like to use personally
because it really challenges me. Like what am I willing to submit
and kind of open handedly give over to Jesus and say this area
of my life? You do whatever you need to do,
like expose the light. If it's good, great, and if it's
bad, great with an asterisk, right.
But like Lindsey had that line or so like it, it will be for
good. Like even where where the
Kingdom, even where the gospel exposes the light exposes what
is bad. Like that's actually for like
toward life. It's not towards shame.
It's not toward guilt. She listed it's so that you
would know life. So I look immediately like, what
are the things that I'm willing to just open handedly submit to
Jesus? And what are the things that I
go, Nope, I'm gonna hold on to this one and I'm not gonna like,
you know, I want control here. So maybe control would be like
another way in which I would think through, yeah, how am I
actively declaring Jesus Christ to be king?
How am I actively submitting to Jesus as king throughout my
entire life? Like where are the things that I
still grasp for control and what are the things that I'm willing
to let go of and just say, OK, like God, you clearly like you
know best, so have at it. And I know if like if there's
short term pain, like cliche, long term gain, no, but like I,
I know and I trust that that ultimately God is good, you
know, So, so that's the control controls.
And I think another language for helping me identify what areas
I'm actively surrendering and what areas I'm actively not
surrendering or how I'm declaring Jesus King actively
over all of it. So like my like, there are these
hot topics, right? So money would be, would be a
probably like a likely even litmus test for people.
Like, is it something that you want absolute control over?
Is it something that you're willing to let go of?
Is it something that you're allowing Jesus to direct?
Or is it something that you're like, let me deal with 90% of it
and you can direct the 10% of it, You know, So all of those
things I, I think are just helpful examples.
For and it's it's interesting that you know, your we, we had
very different answers there. And I think that, you know,
showcases a little bit of our personalities because my bench
is, you know, and this is just a part of my my challenge.
My struggle is when I hear, when I hear word like submit, I'm
like, Nope, you know, and, and, and yet, and yet there is
something amazing about a, a good king that is worthy of the
of, of submitting to right. And, and that is, that is an
area where where I, I can say, you know, like when we, you
know, sing a like a hymn, like I surrender all.
It's like I can look at Jesus and and and at least at least in
my mind, I can say that is someone worthy of offering my
my, you know, to quote another him like my heart, my mind, my
all right, and that's, you know, like but that it takes me a
little bit to get there. Right.
And and so, yeah, when it talks about like money, I'm like close
fist I I like stuff, I want stuff and work it.
It's a it's a lifelong process for me to start to just finger
by finger just. Let go, right?
Let go, yeah. 100% and I feel the same way and certainly like
money is one that you just it naturally right?
You just go, Yep, no, but like it's for fear, for anxiety for
whatever it is. But I think that's why, and I
just want to before we jump to the to the next two questions,
like I think that's why I appreciate these questions and
conversations because they do showcase that both of our
answers are good and correct and actually necessary.
Because like, so you start off by saying, I can, I can see
where Jesus is a good king. Like Jesus is the ultimate
example of a good king because of AB and C So justice, love for
widows and orphans, how he cared for those who are sick and cast
out evil spirits. And like, you start listing
these things that aren't aspirational, like virtues for
us to someday attain if we're good enough, But like they
demonstrate the goodness of who God is and they demonstrate the
character of Jesus as King. And in many ways, that's why
Jesus is the only one who can actually who can demand
submission, right, is because he's the one who ultimately like
submits himself to to God the Father as God the Son and who
willingly dies that all of that an act of submission.
Yeah. And so like, yeah, you start,
start talking about you need both of those perspectives, I
think, to get toward a healthier way to think about it.
And when I reflect on it, like what?
Like the first lie, like the first deceit and the book,
right. So you've got you've got the
devil who says, did God really say to Adam and Eve?
Did God really say like, does He really know what's best for you?
Are you sure you can trust Him? Is He really worth listening to
and submitting to? Yeah.
And like, from the very beginning, that's the lie, that
that God doesn't actually have your best in mind, that he's not
worth trusting. And so you start off by saying,
like, no, like, Jesus is the best version of what we would
call king. He's the one who gets to define
what it means to be king. That's why.
So anyways, I appreciate that that's where you start.
All right. Next.
So yeah, what does it mean to call Jesus King?
And in your own life, what does it mean to call Jesus king?
Where might you not be? Allowing Jesus to be king would
be the most challenging version of that question #2 So I've got
these list of other gospels that Lindsey listed, so.
Yeah, that was that was heavy. Well, right, great.
That was good, that was good. And I love that she didn't leave
it hanging. Like there are these other
gospels, like what other kind? And then she's like, well, let
me name some for you. So I think this is a good tag on
from the first question, but she says gospel of self, gospel of
achievement, gospel of appearance.
And then there's also others like Gospel of hate and
oppression. And I love that she also named
like a gospel of apathy. Hmm, like can't do anything
about it anyways. Why do any of it?
So Jesus, she said Jesus got Jesus Gospel reveals cracks in
those kingdoms, those other kingdoms, those other gospels
cracks like how they enslave us and lead to death and never life
shit. Just great lines man.
And I guess the one of the questions that I just naturally
start asking is, OK, what are some of the gospels that we can
allow to creep into our own life and culture and life as a
community and church? I I think I don't know that it's
like a gospel necessarily, but I think fear is a big driver of
which gospel we follow. Yeah.
So that's one that I see. And you know, I think I'm not
gonna list these like in any order.
I think, you know, maybe we're bent toward different ones, all
of us. But I think the the gospel of
self is probably one of the most rampant dangerous ones that I
see. Like if there's like a gospel of
secularism, I think that's it. Like it's, it's this itself.
It's a gospel of. Self and it but and it shows up
in, you know, in in the church walls and it shows up in in US
right. And so it's not, it's not just
something that others, you know, others deal with.
Yeah, yeah. So here's a, a specific question
that we can put in, uh, what do you think are some techniques or
ways in which we could identify some of the false gospels that
we are potentially listening to? I think it's easy to name them
out there, right? Like, you know, people don't go
to church, they're just falling prey to the gospel of this or
that. Like that's, it's so easy to
just do that. Or like that person is living
this version of this gospel. It's a lot, maybe a lot harder
to go, OK, what might I be like, you know, wrestling with?
So yeah, I'm curious on some thoughts around how like how we
identify them generally. I think there's a, a good, a
good litmus test. I think we could go on to our
phones or tablets and look at the the apps that we use the
most. Screen time, man.
Yeah, because it'll go and tell you you've been on TikTok for 8
hours this week or you've been, you know, like and, and I think
that that can be a bit of a mirror, right?
And like for me, it's, you know, it's, it's often it's if you few
years ago it was Twitter. I, I would say I found an
identity in having a social media presence and being like a
I don't even know what I call myself.
I wasn't influencer. I was not like nothing like
that, but I, I found some core identity there, right.
I've, I've all but quit. I've quit the game.
I love it, but where I just made it a conscious decision, say I'm
not gonna play that game anymore, I'm done with it.
But like, I think that's a really simple way to start to
look internally. Yeah, go onto your online
banking. That's another that's another
one. I and I know that that that's a
that's a scary that's a scary one for us, you know, or I can
look at me like I spent how much on.
Amazon. Yeah, whatever.
And sometimes sometimes necessary things, but often very
not necessary things, right. And, and so like there are some
simple ways for for like just it's, it's, it's a, it's a lamp
being illuminated, right. And sometimes we prefer to live
in the darkness. So like there's there was a
while where I was like, I'm gonna turn screen time off
because I want to live in the darkness.
OK. So that's brilliant that.
It wasn't. Brilliant.
No, no, not turning it off that point is like double down on
that point because that I think that brings it into immediate
connection with Lindsey Sermon in this passage, which is you
can choose to live in the dark. You can choose in a sense apathy
that got gospel of apathy. It's not like you're just
falling prey to it. Somebody else, Like you can
choose to not revisit all your purchases at the end of the
month and add it all up. And really be honest, you can
choose to turn screen time off. Which and just be oblivious to
how much time you spend on anything.
And I I've, I'm reforming. I'm I'm.
Me too, me too. We're, you know, working on it
and, and, and you know, like God, God is, you know, I'm
stubborn. God is slowly refining my heart
to, to say like, Hey, you don't need that.
You know, you don't need, you don't need to listen or watch a
YouTube video while you shower, you know, like just just be, be
in the moment and just do what you're doing.
You know, like there's, there's something that I'm, you know,
that I'm sort of trying to press into a bit more of these days in
that way. And and yeah.
Yeah, I love that, like single focused activities.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
We live in a constant age of like partial attention.
So we always say like, wow, like constantly distracted.
But I think that's harder. Again, it's the the blame, as it
were, on external sources that. Which they all want us to do it
right because it feeds the ad revenue and all the things
right. So there is an external force,
but also. When I say partial attention,
that makes me own it more. And I think that the third thing
that I would add to yours, which so and I love how concrete that
is, but I would say like where your attention is, your
affection will be like your affection will follow your
attention and or in other ways like your attention will direct
your affection. So what is getting your
attention and what is getting your affection is a crucial
question to answer and be honest about.
And I think the only way to be fully honest about that is to
bring somebody else into the conversation.
Otherwise it's easy just to be like, I'm gonna ignore that
part, right? Like the screen time, I'm gonna
flip it off. But as soon as you name it with
somebody, you're like, oh, no, it's hard in the best way
possible. Like you've turned the light on
or allowed the light to be turned on here.
Like time to get to. Work.
So I turned it back on and I said I Lindsey, our preacher
yesterday and also my wife. Yeah, I said here, I need you to
put in a password here so I can't turn it.
Off. I love it.
Oh, I absolutely love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So first question, second question, pay attention to other
gospels and help wrestle through yourself for others what those
might be. Identify those things.
I love how concrete those are. The last question that I think
would be fun for people to wrestle their way through and
and talk through is toward wrapping up.
Lindsey had a couple lines that talked around the word of God
being heard, being received and then being acted upon.
And it it was in this, this pulling back from Isaiah 6, but
then also Isaiah 9 where we talk about the I think she also named
Proverbs wisdom like the wise seek greater wisdom, right?
And how inside of the Kingdom. What Jesus is talking about when
he says, when we use the language, like lean in, when he
uses the language, listen, really listen.
Like what he's getting at is don't be afraid of whether
you've heard or not. Don't be afraid about whether
you like listen or not. Actively pursue listening.
Actively pursue leaning in. Those who lean in will discover
more. Those who attempt to listen will
hear. Like there's an inclination
toward this that we're supposed to have that meant to have.
And again, in, in 2 questions, how do we listen?
And also how are we listening? Because again, I think there's a
difference here. Like we can have this
aspirational conversation around how do we listen without maybe
having the honest conversation about how we are listening.
Like currently, currently. Am I a good listener in this
moment? Yeah.
And and like I know that for a long time.
Like for me, I could have these aspirational conversations that
are good and great, but then it fails to have the actual honest
conversation of OK, but am I? So how are we listening?
I think becomes such a crucial question and one of the things
that I've heard, and I'll just throw this out there.
Yeah, as as we kind of we think through this and toward a wrap
up, here is somebody once said to me, your like the degree to
which you are listening to God can be revealed by the degree to
which you're willing to say yes to God.
Like, when was the last time you said, yeah, I'm not necessarily
asking you this, but generally, when was the last time you said
yes to God in a very concrete, tangible way, Yeah.
And the question could be, well, if someone might say, well, I I
haven't heard something to respond yes to, it's like, well.
Bingo. Bingo.
That's right. Yeah.
So I, I feel in inadequate to
answer this question, but I, I will say, um, one thing I've
been, I've been doing more and more is sitting in a chair.
I have a comfy chair that I got after my back surgery last year
and I sit in that chair with my coffee.
And now I actually will do this with devices sometimes because
I'll, I'll put in I'll put in like my air pods and noise
cancelling so that I can just like not hear the cat meowing or
whatever, right. And I will, I will sit there and
I will like do some real good deep breathing.
You know, like I think there is, there is a physiological
component to when you like slow your like the oxygen to your
brain a little bit, right. There is something physiological
that allows for like just to be present with yourself and God.
And sometimes it'll be a combo of say like scripture or say
like Electio 365 or, or prayer or whatever.
I know that you're a big journaler.
I'm, I'm not even yet an aspirational journal or maybe,
maybe at some point, but I, you know, just being, being able to
sit there and to listen and to just like not be distracted to
put in myself in a spot where I, you know, the do not disturb is
on. I'm not going to get texts.
I'm not going to like to just be comfortable and just, you know,
maybe maybe God isn't gonna drop something earth shattering.
Yeah, maybe he will. Yep.
You know, and, and to be ready for when that happens, that that
at a bare minimum, we want, we need to allow ourselves to be
poised and ready for God to to speak and for them to us to
respond. Yeah, I absolutely love that.
And so much of my practice is, is quite similar.
It it's funny. So I'm flipping back through my
notebook like this is my notebook that I carry around
everywhere. And so like I can flip back
through morning and evening chunks that I've written.
One of the things that I've started doing is actually that
keeping track of the time, like the amount of time that I've
been able to sit in silence. So I think silence and solitude
is so crucial for learning to listen to God because one of the
things that you need to become comfortable with is silence.
Like learn to be quiet and to steal your mind and to settle
into be it prayer scripture from a place of quiet.
And so one of the reasons why so for me that the two that I'll
add, so silence and solitude, like you've mentioned journaling
is because so often, way more often than not, I'm not even
gonna give it a percentage. But if it was a percentage,
probably 99 point, whatever percent, like it's not gonna be
that like big booming voice that you're like, this was a word
from God. But what I can start to see is
in the intentional moments of quiet, when I'm trying to
listen, I will write down what I think I'm hearing.
And you know, once is once, and maybe that's enough.
Maybe that was a word from God. This is like repeated patterns.
You know this thing. Very often look back, that is
exactly it is. You're convinced me, maybe.
Eventually one day, well, this is like my goal behind the whole
podcast. How do I how do I convince
people that journalists? But no, I just for me, it's So
what I never appreciated is exactly that is just being able
to look back and go, Oh God's, been saying the same thing me
for a while. Like I need to.
So, you know, doing this two-month experiment thing where
like off my phone as absolute much as possible, which I think
is a great thing for everybody and got some rules and also some
other people who are doing that alongside and I love that.
Like it's like they're a bunch of people just like, hey, that
sounds great. I'm in and one of the that that
whole like angst for me was born out of actually like repeatedly
seeing like I wish I wasn't as distracted or like.
You know, like, why do I, why do I, why am I constantly like, why
am I trying to do three things at the same time and I never
feel like I'm fully engaged with?
Like why do I walk away from like social gatherings?
Like, man, I just didn't. Like I wish I had more
meaningful conversation there. Like they're just these things
that I started to notice all the way through.
Like, you know, the main problem is my main problem is the phone.
Like it's the constant partial distraction attention thing.
And so you know what? I'm gonna try something a little
crazy and, you know, two months of it, We'll see how it goes.
But that for me, it was born out of that repeated.
Like, I wonder if this is not just my own angst.
And I wonder if this is like, hey, guys, trying to get a hold
of me in some very specific way. And we'll see.
I don't know. But it was borne out of that
consistent, like, yeah, thought through.
But I would say more important than that, learn, practice,
become comfortable with silence because that's where you're
gonna hear. So three questions for you to
think about. Yeah.
And discuss this week. We'll try to put them in the
video as well as in the description of the YouTube
description and the podcast description so that you can take
them into your week. And we do hope that you will
continue to do that, to take these questions, to take these
discussions into your week with family or friends, loved ones,
and we'll see you next time. Have a wonderful week.