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Hey friends, welcome to another 
episode of the podcast and we 

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are happy that you are here. 
We have made it into Luke 17 and

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Justin, you were preaching, so 
welcome to the preacher's chair,

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which is. 
Today. 

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Last week. 
We didn't. 

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We didn't trade. 
No, no, no, because I have, you 

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know, I have a camera here that 
I. 

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Can and a microphone that is set
to your voice and the microphone

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that's set to my voice. 
But great to have you preaching 

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and jumping up. 
So we're going to get into a 

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conversation around Luke 17. 
If you want to read it, that be 

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fantastic. 
If you missed the sermon, you 

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can always go back and watch it.
Yeah, But I think it's a good 

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conversation around a very 
specific healing that Jesus does

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in in the gospel of Luke, 
there's 10 lepers. 

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They come to Jesus, they beg him
to be healed and he heals them. 

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But he does it in in a in a 
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We see Jesus, Jesus do this a 
couple times right where he he 

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doesn't heal the person 
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He tells them to go and do 
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And it's a it's a theme that we 
pick up on later in acts. 

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Like Luke continues this theme 
and the church continues this 

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theme. 
But so 10 lepers come to Jesus, 

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they beg to be healed. 
And he says, just go, like, do 

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the thing. 
Go and show yourselves to the 

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priests. 
And it says on the way they were

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healed. 
And I loved how you highlighted 

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that piece for us. 
And so this this podcast is 

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going to find you on the way 
somewhere, very likely. 

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Cleaning your house, Driving to 
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Yeah, yeah. 
So we hope that it's helpful for

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you on the way. 
One of my favorite writers is, 

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and I've talked about him 
before, but a guy named Henry 

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Allen and I've got a devotional 
of his and it's called Bread for

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the journey. 
And I, I love that. 

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So I love that what we get to 
see here is a picture of these 

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these guys who are healed on the
way on the road and literally as

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they travel. 
This podcast is not going to 

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heal you as you travel, but we 
hope that it's encouraging for 

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you and we hope that it helps 
you meet Jesus on the road on 

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the way in, in some small way in
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So whether you're watching, 
whether you're listening, 

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whether you're in your car, 
whether you are at home, 

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wherever it is that you are, we 
just hope that, you know, we're 

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praying for you and we're 
praying that you meet Jesus on 

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the way in some small way as we 
work our way through this 

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passage and into your day ahead.
So we're going to get into it 

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and jump into some questions. 
We did have some questions sent 

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in and kind of discussed our own
leading up to recording this. 

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It's worth noting that we, you 
know, sometimes have our own 

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questions. 
Like even for me as the 

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preacher, I still have some 
questions that are lingering 

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from this passage. 
Like we're just just worth 

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naming that like that. 
We've spent, you know, many 

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hours in the text writing the 
thing and the work still isn't 

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done, you know, and that's, 
that's just, that's just the 

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Bible. 
Yeah, it's, it's, it's the gift 

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of Scripture, which is the that 
exact fact that, you know, I 

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think for for you and I like we 
could preach on the same text 10

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times and come out with 10 
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Yeah. 
And that's the hope. 

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That's that's the gift of it. 
That's the joy of it and the 

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challenge in it. 
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so for our own lives. 
Like you realize you come back 

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to passages and you go, I see 
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And I think part of that is that
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Like I remember talking to 
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progress. 
Have you read the Pilgrims 

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Progress? 
Progress when I was a kid. 

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So OK, so this is this is the 
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Is exactly the point. 
Many of us read it early on, 

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like at some point during high 
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and then never touch it again. 
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talking to is making the the 
argument that, you know, you 

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read it when you're when you're 
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different. 
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your 50s or 60s and it's a 
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Read it again later, like in 
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into your seventies, 80s. 
And it's a different book for 

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the third time around. 
And I just love that that's like

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that's the hardest scripture is 
that you can come back to it 

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over and over and over again. 
So we're going to jump in. 

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It's versus 11 through to 19. 
And it is this story of Jesus 

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healing the man with leprosy. 
Pause if you need to go read it,

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some great lines in it. 
Rise, go. 

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Your faith has made you well, 
we're going to get into that. 

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He said go, they're healed all 
on the way as they went, they 

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were cleansed. 
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the first question is there are 
there are two different 

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responses to Jesus here. 
So you highlighted for us on 

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Sunday that 10 come to Jesus, 10
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He sends 10 away, but then their
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There's a response of the nine 
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the one. 
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exactly what those responses 
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And I think the question in it 
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the things that you noticed in 
this guy, the one who returns to

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Jesus? 
I'm spoiling a little bit of the

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answer here, but like what makes
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other 9? 
There's a, there's a few things.

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I obviously he's a Samaritan and
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here. 
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I went through kind of the, the 
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lose, lose situation here. 
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He's, you know, I kind of refer 
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ways. 
He was like because of his 

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disease, because of his 
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And he was not even, he was not 
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you know, Galicia, Galilee and 
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right? 
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He's a he's a foreigner in a 
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people that don't like him. 
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different. 
That's like the most natural, 

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obvious outward difference. 
But there's more, right? 

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There's you see this man that 
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nowhere else to go, right. 
So he's sort of come even in his

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healing. 
He's sort of come has come to 

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the end of himself. 
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know, got to be thinking like I 
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And again, I kind of highlighted
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You can go back but and listen, 
but like, he's like, I don't 

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know if this priest is even 
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right? 
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unclean. 
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Samaritan. 
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himself and of himself, he has 
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the source, right. 
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another distinct distinguishing 
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forced to in some ways humble 
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He was already probably quite 
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affliction with leprosy, but he 
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realized and recognized he had 
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contrast to the nine who I think
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either, you know, treated Jesus 
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At worst, perhaps I think you 
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actually. 
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charitably were just more kind 
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their own little world, right? 
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their gratitude toward the man 
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the power to heal them, right. 
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So I certainly know that like in
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know, which like you always want
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Like don't, don't always, you 
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only in like the person who has 
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Like. 
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Yeah, so and we can we'll get 
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But like I, I do resonate with 
this idea that like, I think the

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leper that this one who returns 
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end of himself that he's able to
see Jesus differently than these

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other nine. 
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day for them, the path is clear.
Like they go and show themselves

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to the priests and they're 
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They are cleansed like 
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emotionally, they're brought 
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So they're, they're cleansed 
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now able to go back and make 
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rituals of cleansing. 
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possible, the nine can see a 
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For them, it's like A + B = C if
the if Jesus can heal them, then

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they can return and it's game 
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And for this one Samaritan, it's
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still A in the sense that like 
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strikes against him. 
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far to the end of himself that 
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so different. 
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a helpful and hard challenge for
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it is. 
And you said this so well on 

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Sunday, but like there's no, you
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not show up and, and and write 
the ship as it were, right? 

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Like you, this guy has every 
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doesn't say to him, well, like, 
I'll, I'll heal these nine 

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because they qualify. 
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and I won't heal you because the
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right. 
So same affliction or same 

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grouping of affliction. 
Like that's kind of leprosy is 

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this weird thing. 
But but there's in Jesus's eyes,

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there's no difference between 
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So it's not like he comes and 
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Jew, I'm going to heal these 
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you. 
It it for for Jesus. 

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This guy's not too far gone. 
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that for us is beautiful in that
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and challenging to hear maybe at
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far gone. 
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that each of us can identify 
with moments where we've been 

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brought to the end of ourselves 
and where we know there's no way

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out of this. 
A+B doesn't equal C like A + B 

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still feels like we're in a 
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And your dependence and reliance
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there's no way forward for you. 
And, and so like just riffing 

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off that a little bit, like I 
think that that is a logical end

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when we have, you know, when we 
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where, where something is, you 
know, like we're maybe it's a 

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terminal illness, maybe it's, 
maybe it's a cancer journey, 

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maybe it's a, a divorce, maybe 
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What like whatever that looks 
like, you know, you get, you get

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to the end of your rope and you 
realize all I have, all I have 

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is Jesus, right? 
So like, that's like, that's a 

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good turn for someone, right? 
It's a it's a good thing. 

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My thought is sometimes like, 
OK, like go, let's go like a few

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steps back for someone. 
How do we get to the place where

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where we can turn to Jesus even 
before then, right, You know, 

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because like, like it's, it's, 
it's tough when it's like, well,

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you're my only you're my last 
and only hope Jesus, You know, 

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like when there's so much and 
this is kind of, you know, ties 

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into to the 9. 
Like, how much better would it 

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be if we can like, recognize and
declare our our utter dependence

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on Jesus long before we get to 
the end of our. 

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Rope. 
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 

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I think the one thing that the 
one thing that I recognize is in

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like in myself is that once 
you've experienced those like 

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deepest and darkest nights of 
the soul, whatever that looks 

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like, you start to be able to 
see the flags in yourself a lot 

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sooner. 
The other thing though, is that 

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you start to be able to pick out
flags and other people. 

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And I do think that that's where
you need people, like you need 

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people around you who can say, 
hey, like you got some like, not

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sure what's going on maybe, but 
like there are some flags or 

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even just to say like you need 
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habits, routines, disciplines 
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and disciplines and who can see 
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You can say hey like. 
You doing OK? 

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You, you, you know, you, you're 
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getting up every every morning, 
right? 

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You're better when you're not 
even think of like spouses, like

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hey, like you're I mean that's a
dangerous thing to say. 

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You're better one. 
Don't say that. 

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Pick better language than me, 
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But like you need someone and a 
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can hold you accountable to 
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know, are just healthy and life 
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thing and then I'll feel great. 
But like it it is. 

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I think you need people around 
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agree. 
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could recognize dependence, you 
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where we let go of ourselves. 
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typical in the human experience 
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place where we realize that I 
you can't do it. 

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I can't do it and that's. 
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he he displays like that 
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becoming prostate at the feet of
Jesus, right? 

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Like I just like all I have left
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Jesus, right. 
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This is the guy that we're kind 
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his, his physicality is 
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and this, this realization, 
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are the source of my, of my hope
and my healing and my 

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restoration into, into the world
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So and I would say that the more

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you learn to do that in your 
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great. 
So man, it is like the fad. 

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The fad psychological thing 
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Yeah, but it's so right. 
It's like, it is so right. 

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It's such a good. 
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pop psychology, we get things 
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lot of things that go sideways 
and whatever. 

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able to like even my like very 
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number of years ago, like she 
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like 10 things that you like 
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when you're like really down 
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could come across as like, you 
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inflate yourself. 
But when your ego is like down 

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here, you know, that's a good 
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toward God, which is a benefit. 
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Yeah. 
And I think that the, the like a

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Christian position or posture of
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blessings that you've 
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as opposed saying like, you 
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I'm grateful for that. 
I'm grateful to like grateful 

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I've got a family. 
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to say thanks Jesus for. 
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For AB and C and like that in 
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you toward a posture of 
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It's like I'm not grateful that 
I did this God. 

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I'm grateful for what you've 
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It's also showing dependence 
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grateful for what I've been able
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I'm grateful for what God has 
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And so like I, I just think 
there are there are simple ways 

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that are really actually like 
the challenges, consistency and 

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and learning to do the thing. 
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smaller, simpler, and I'm using 
air quotes here, smaller, 

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simpler things, uh, that can 
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where we're not at the end of 
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And it makes gratitude, it makes
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easier when we're not, like when
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ourselves. 
OK, so we've got, let's just 

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clarify here for us. 
So we've got the 9:00. 

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Well, I'll back up. 
We have 10 who come to Jesus 

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asking to be cleansed. 
Jesus says go and show 

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yourselves to the priests. 9 go 
to the priests. 

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Presumably we don't see that. 
Yeah, walked out in Luke, but. 

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Why would they? 
Not why would they not 9 go 

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along the way like on the road 
as they traveled. 

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They're healed. 9 Continue and 
one turns, comes back to Jesus, 

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falls at his feet, gives thanks 
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him, Go, your faith has made 
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Well, we're going to come back 
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circle move, but talk to us a 
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because on the surface it looks 
like they're just doing exactly 

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what Jesus said to do. 
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yourselves to the priests and 
they're like, game on. 

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We're going to go and show 
ourselves to the priest. 

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We have no reason, like we've 
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that. 
They are also healed along the 

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way. 
They're cleansed. 

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What like, what is the lesson 
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that we miss if we don't come 
back like this one guy? 

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And how can we maybe like, what 
are the ways in which we live 

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like these nine before we get to
this one? 

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If we say the first thing that 
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not a genie in a bottle and, and
we should not treat Jesus like 

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that, you know, and, and, and so
that's at a very superficial 

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level. 
You know, these guys ask for, 

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ask for healing, they ask for 
pity, they, they get what they 

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asked for. 
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they've gone to the priest to be
declared clean, you would think 

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that, I mean, I, I can only put 
myself mentally in this 

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situation because I'm, I'm not 
in this situation, but I would 

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hope that my, that my response 
and reaction would be OK now 

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that I've done what Jesus said 
to do. 

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The Samaritan had a reason why 
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right? 
But these guys did what Jesus 

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told them to. 
In my mind, I'm like, why 

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wouldn't they go back to the one
who did the thing, right? 

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Who like the priests did 
nothing. 

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They just, they just declared 
them clean because like you 

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don't have any skin diseases, 
you know, great, you're, you're 

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good to go. 
And I there, there are some 

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theories that when you're 
reading some like commentaries 

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and whatnot, that they actually 
did not like that it was Jesus 

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who did the thing that that 
because they knew who Jesus was,

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they, they called out to him, 
right? 

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They knew, they knew who he was,
likely knew some they like they 

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had some understanding of, of 
the reputation that Jesus had 

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amongst the religious elites, 
likely had some understanding of

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the implications of being a, a 
disciple of Jesus. 

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And there's some there's some 
that kind of pause it like they 

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actually did not like that it 
was Jesus. 

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So it was like, it was a pretty 
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hmm. 
To get what they wanted out of 

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Jesus. 
I think that we can treat our 

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faith like that. 
Like what? 

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What is in this for me? 
Yeah. 

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What's in the what can I get out
of this? 

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That that's a that's certainly a
danger. 

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Yeah. 
So I think to just to add to 

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that, like it, it really just 
rounds out the entire 

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conversation that we've been 
having so far, which is to say, 

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it's a lot easier to recognize 
that we need Jesus when we 

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actually need like when, when I 
shouldn't say when we actually 

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do, but when we feel like we 
actually do right when there is 

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something going on. 
So one of the most common things

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that I'll ask people about their
prayer life is like, do you do 

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you only pray when you need 
something from God? 

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Or do you pray as a means of 
communicating with a God who 

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loves you and is created you and
knows you best and wants you to 

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know yourself letter and is you 
know, longing to communicate 

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with you and build out a 
relationship where you know Him 

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better like it is? 
Do your prayers represent things

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that are requests, asks bleeding
with begging with God? 

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Or is it? 
Can you say that it's more 

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well-rounded? 
Yeah, well, and even like, cause

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I think we could, you know, say,
cause I've been thinking of some

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friends that I've been praying 
for quite a bit. 

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It's still, even though it's, 
it's not about me, nothing to do

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with me. 
It's, it's I'm praying, I'm 

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praying for them. 
But it can. 

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It's still a request. 
I need you to do this which is 

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listen a great. 
Prayer good. 

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There's nothing wrong with it. 
But as you say, like is our, is 

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our prayer like well-rounded, 
you know? 

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Yeah, I just think that it's a 
litmus test maybe for how we 

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approach God, right? 
It's got a tool in your tool 

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belt and you're like, well, in 
this situation, I'm going to 

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take this tool out. 
We're going to try it. 

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And you know, if that doesn't 
work, then we've got a bigger 

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tool. 
So it's kind of like, do you 

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have like the Leatherman with 
like the little like wimpy 

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screwdriver on it and which are 
always so, so handy. 

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And but then you get something 
and you're like, oh, this, this 

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little screwdriver isn't doing 
the thing. 

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You need the bigger screwdriver.
And then that doesn't work in 

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like, maybe you need to drill 
the thing out like like, you 

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know, listen, I probably 
shouldn't be giving out 

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machining advice, mechanical 
advice, however. 

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You more than me. 
However, I do think that that 

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can be sometimes the way in 
which we approach God right 

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where it's OK. 
I've got this tool in my tool 

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belt and I'll use it when I 
think I need it as opposed to, 

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you know, is, is this is this 
dynamic and flourishing? 

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Like are you living all of life 
inside of you know this the the 

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context of this relationship 
with with the God who's created 

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you. 
So, OK, so if that's the lesson 

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that we need to learn from the 9
Yeah, I think part of the turn 

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is this one leper comes back and
he gives thanks. 

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He falls at his the Jesus's 
feet. 

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He gives thanks to God. 
He recognizes who Jesus is. 

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Um, what's the lesson that we 
need to learn from this one? 

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Hmm. 
There is something about again, 

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again, this goes back to this 
idea. 

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I mean, he's gone. 
He's gone to the end of himself.

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He has, he has realized his 
options are very low. 

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So you could, I mean, you could 
kind of make a case that this 

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guy is also being like very 
utilitarian and like that he has

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nowhere else to go really. 
But I do think that again, he 

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recognizes who Jesus is. 
He sees that this, this is more 

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than just a man, more than just 
a itinerant preacher. 

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You know, he is more than that. 
And so that the difference maker

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is in knowing and seeing who 
Jesus is and, and acting upon 

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that, right? 
And that is that that delicate 

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balance between, you know, Jesus
has revealed himself to this 

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man, right? 
He's revealed himself to this 

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man. 
And this man has responded, 

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right? 
And this is, you know, going 

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back to where, I mean, Jesus 
declares his, his faith and, and

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that he has expressed a great 
deal of faith and he's commended

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for his faith. 
And, and it's not to say that 

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the, the, the other nine had no 
faith. 

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They had some degree of faith, 
otherwise they wouldn't have 

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walked toward the village, 
right? 

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But this man had perhaps more 
right? 

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And it's always like, how do you
measure faith? 

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Like how do you, I don't know, 
how do you, how do you measure 

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like I, I have like 99% faith 
and you have 92. 

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Like, I don't know how that 
works, you know, like, but, but 

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clearly this man had something 
more going on for him, right? 

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And, and Jesus says your faith 
has made you well, right. 

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And, and we talked about that 
being salvific, that there is 

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that there is something more 
than just all of them were made 

444
00:24:47,380 --> 00:24:50,030
well physically. 
And, and, and this man was made 

445
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:58,550
well wholly from a holistic 
faith, salvation physically, all

446
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,610
the things, right. 
And so, so the difference maker 

447
00:25:01,620 --> 00:25:05,710
is that he he recognized the 
source. 

448
00:25:05,780 --> 00:25:07,880
Yeah. 
One of the interesting things 

449
00:25:07,890 --> 00:25:11,960
about this passage is that Lucas
positioning Jesus is the temple.

450
00:25:12,450 --> 00:25:15,620
Yeah, right. 
So you get, you get the you get 

451
00:25:15,630 --> 00:25:18,720
the Jews who worship in 
Jerusalem at the temple and 

452
00:25:18,730 --> 00:25:20,660
like, you know, in synagogues 
around. 

453
00:25:20,670 --> 00:25:24,140
Yeah, as microcosms of. 
The temple, but but their lives 

454
00:25:24,150 --> 00:25:27,710
were directed toward the temple.
Samaritans have Mount Gerizim. 

455
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,040
Exactly. 
And so for both of these groups 

456
00:25:32,050 --> 00:25:37,490
who worshipped in very different
places, feeling and access to 

457
00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:40,630
God and God's healing would have
been considered something that 

458
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,150
happened in those places. 
For that to now happen in the 

459
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:50,710
person of Jesus is really, I 
think Jesus positioning himself 

460
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:57,850
and Luke showing us that Jesus 
is fulfilling the role of temple

461
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,270
and priest. 
So we talk about threefold 

462
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:05,370
office of of Christ of Jesus 
role as prophet, as priest, as 

463
00:26:05,380 --> 00:26:10,320
king, and this is a priestly 
role that Jesus is fulfilling 

464
00:26:10,330 --> 00:26:13,380
that he's stepping into that 
he's not only the priest, he is 

465
00:26:13,390 --> 00:26:15,800
embodying the temple. 
Hmm. 

466
00:26:16,130 --> 00:26:22,480
God's presence is is in him and 
alive through him in in the same

467
00:26:22,490 --> 00:26:26,040
way that we would articulate as 
Christians now that you are 

468
00:26:27,270 --> 00:26:32,800
God's temple and no longer is it
connected to a specific place or

469
00:26:32,810 --> 00:26:36,260
time. 
It is the Spirit of God 

470
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:40,150
breathing life and dwelling in 
followers of Jesus. 

471
00:26:40,930 --> 00:26:43,890
So Jesus is demonstrating what 
it means to be what it looks 

472
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:47,880
like to fulfill that he's acting
as priest. 

473
00:26:47,890 --> 00:26:52,340
He is fulfilling the role of 
temple where where these people 

474
00:26:52,350 --> 00:26:54,720
are healed. 
And I think it's that in some 

475
00:26:54,730 --> 00:26:58,260
ways that that this guy is 
seeing like, it's like God gives

476
00:26:58,270 --> 00:27:02,390
him eyes to see the thing as it 
really is, as it's unfolding 

477
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,230
before him. 
And so, you know, these, these 

478
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:10,780
9, even if they do go to the 
synagogue or if they do go to 

479
00:27:10,790 --> 00:27:14,100
the temple and worship, they're 
still worshipping in the temple.

480
00:27:14,170 --> 00:27:15,760
Yeah. 
And this Samaritan, he doesn't 

481
00:27:15,770 --> 00:27:21,290
go back to to his people and to 
their their place of worship. 

482
00:27:21,930 --> 00:27:26,180
He goes back to Jesus. 
He's able to see Jesus as this 

483
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:33,710
place, time, power, presence, 
all of it rooted in in a in a 

484
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,080
person and so. 
Cool. 

485
00:27:35,090 --> 00:27:36,930
Like it's I I just love it. 
Yeah. 

486
00:27:36,940 --> 00:27:38,070
Yeah, it's very, very. 
Cool. 

487
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,350
It's a great image of really 
what it looks like for God's 

488
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,990
presence and power to be 
unleashed beyond the walls of 

489
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,710
the temple. 
We always talk about when Jesus 

490
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,650
dies, the temple, like the 
curtain of the temple is torn 

491
00:27:50,740 --> 00:27:54,070
and it's not torn from the 
bottom like it's from the top, 

492
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,050
just like straight down route, 
like opening up. 

493
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:01,920
But Jesus is revealing these 
types of like moves that God is 

494
00:28:01,930 --> 00:28:05,980
making long before, yeah, that 
temple curtain is torn and it's 

495
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:07,710
like God's presence is released 
into the world. 

496
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:13,920
No, Jesus is is revealing that 
as he goes on the road and this 

497
00:28:13,930 --> 00:28:19,440
is one of those really kind of 
hinge or like paramount moments 

498
00:28:19,790 --> 00:28:22,720
where we get to glimpse Jesus 
for who he truly. 

499
00:28:22,730 --> 00:28:26,180
Is and it's cool to see the the 
way that that theology develops 

500
00:28:26,190 --> 00:28:29,700
over even in Paul's time when, 
when you know, Paul would talk 

501
00:28:29,710 --> 00:28:33,950
about us as as temples of, you 
know, we are, we are the body of

502
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,960
Christ. 
We are, we are temples, our 

503
00:28:35,970 --> 00:28:37,980
bodies are temples all that kind
of thing. 

504
00:28:38,030 --> 00:28:40,280
But even when you go back and 
this is I'm going to I'm going 

505
00:28:40,290 --> 00:28:44,540
to bring back this passage in in
second kings, just briefly. 

506
00:28:44,550 --> 00:28:50,100
We'll, we'll go here. 
So this, this story of, of the 

507
00:28:50,110 --> 00:28:55,150
leper, the 10 lepers that are 
healed, it would call to mind a 

508
00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:01,090
story centuries prior with 
Elisha the prophet and this, 

509
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,060
this Gentile by the name of 
Naaman. 

510
00:29:03,460 --> 00:29:05,240
And this is in second Kings 
chapter 5. 

511
00:29:05,250 --> 00:29:06,990
You can read it there. 
And there's just a couple 

512
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,570
passages that highlighted just 
because I, I think that it's 

513
00:29:09,580 --> 00:29:11,710
cool to look forward to the way 
that the temple theology 

514
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,810
develops, but then to look back 
and say this was actually 

515
00:29:13,820 --> 00:29:19,050
happening before as well, where 
Elijah, this guy named and has 

516
00:29:19,060 --> 00:29:21,960
has leprosy. 
Elijah is basically go wash 

517
00:29:21,970 --> 00:29:26,080
yourself in the Jordan 7 times 
and your flesh will be restored 

518
00:29:26,090 --> 00:29:28,840
and you'll be cleansed. 
So here we have this guy doing 

519
00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:30,850
the thing outside of the temple,
right? 

520
00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:36,620
This prophet and then so skip a 
few verses, verse 14, he says, 

521
00:29:36,730 --> 00:29:39,630
and so he went down and dipped 
himself in the Jordan 7 times as

522
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,430
the man of God had told him, and
his flesh was restored and 

523
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,210
became clean like that of a 
young boy. 

524
00:29:44,270 --> 00:29:46,480
And it's kind of a funny image 
like it's like comes out and 

525
00:29:46,490 --> 00:29:51,180
he's like got like smooth skin. 
Then Naaman and his attendance 

526
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:53,320
went back to the man of God and 
he stood before him. 

527
00:29:53,330 --> 00:29:54,760
And this is what's so 
interesting. 

528
00:29:54,770 --> 00:29:58,080
You get this, this Gentile, he 
says, now I know that there is 

529
00:29:58,090 --> 00:30:01,400
no God in all the world except 
in Israel. 

530
00:30:01,650 --> 00:30:06,210
So you get this guy who declares
God as God, right? 

531
00:30:06,220 --> 00:30:09,540
Who, who has been healed and 
recognizes the God of the 

532
00:30:09,550 --> 00:30:16,290
universe, You know, long before,
long before Jesus, that was on 

533
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:17,490
earth. 
Like it's just a it's a 

534
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:23,280
fascinating little parallel that
in some ways the the hearers, 

535
00:30:23,290 --> 00:30:25,940
the early hearers of these 
words, the Jewish hearers of 

536
00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:29,750
these words should have called 
to mind it should have reminded 

537
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,080
them of this passage. 
Oht God's been doing this thing 

538
00:30:32,090 --> 00:30:33,830
with Gentiles for a real long 
time. 

539
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:37,800
God's been operating outside of 
the kind of the the Kingdom or 

540
00:30:37,810 --> 00:30:40,990
the temple, the bounds of the 
temple. 

541
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,320
God's been doing stuff outside 
of that for a long. 

542
00:30:43,330 --> 00:30:46,170
Time I almost wonder if the 9 
they're like, Hey, should we be 

543
00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:48,750
like jumping in the river as we 
go like 7 times? 

544
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:51,430
Like remember that story? 
But the so the the one 

545
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:56,130
difference that I love in these 
two accounts is you get so it's 

546
00:30:56,140 --> 00:30:59,540
it's a Leisha here, right? 
So you get a Leisha who tells 

547
00:30:59,610 --> 00:31:05,240
Naaman to go and cleanse himself
in the river 7 times and then 

548
00:31:05,250 --> 00:31:08,920
you get Jesus who just says go, 
you're already made. 

549
00:31:08,930 --> 00:31:13,700
Well, more powerful there is. 
No, like there's no, there's no 

550
00:31:13,710 --> 00:31:16,100
sacrifice they have to make. 
There is no step they have to 

551
00:31:16,110 --> 00:31:18,260
take. 
All, all they need to do is turn

552
00:31:18,270 --> 00:31:22,180
and go. 
And so it is like, while I mean 

553
00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:25,280
it, it, it, it's meant to be 
very similar. 

554
00:31:25,290 --> 00:31:28,090
Like we're meant to see these as
connections and we're meant to 

555
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:29,630
see the distinctions between the
two. 

556
00:31:29,690 --> 00:31:31,830
Yeah. 
And I just, I love that, you 

557
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:38,230
know, for, for Jesus here in his
role, he is able to say, hey, 

558
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,370
you don't even have to, you 
don't even have to jump in the 

559
00:31:40,380 --> 00:31:45,040
river 7 times anymore. 
Like those sacrifice on your 

560
00:31:45,050 --> 00:31:50,540
behalf at this point has not 
literally been made, but inside 

561
00:31:50,550 --> 00:31:54,120
of the scheme of salvation 
history, yeah, has been made. 

562
00:31:54,170 --> 00:31:55,720
This side of the cross has been 
made. 

563
00:31:55,730 --> 00:32:01,620
So I you know, it it, it again 
just points us toward Jesus as 

564
00:32:01,630 --> 00:32:03,960
the ultimate fulfillment of all 
of these. 

565
00:32:03,970 --> 00:32:08,560
So Jesus is standing as prophet 
and he's standing as priest and 

566
00:32:08,610 --> 00:32:11,660
fulfilling this role as temple. 
So let's talk about then just 

567
00:32:11,670 --> 00:32:15,840
really briefly, because I think 
that the Naamans story does 

568
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,630
double down on this idea that 
there's something different 

569
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,050
about the Samaritan who is 
healed. 

570
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:27,410
Jesus says to him, rise and go. 
Your faith has made you well. 

571
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:33,450
And I'm so in in my like NIV 
translation here in 14 where he 

572
00:32:33,460 --> 00:32:38,520
says initially to them, go show 
yourselves to the priests as 

573
00:32:38,530 --> 00:32:42,470
they went, they were cleansed 
and then rise go your faith has 

574
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,100
made you well. 
Did you and your study notice 

575
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:49,120
differences between those two, 
those two words, the 

576
00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:52,100
implications of them? 
I know we talked about how your 

577
00:32:52,110 --> 00:32:54,920
faith has made you well means 
far more. 

578
00:32:54,980 --> 00:32:58,000
I think Naaman story double s 
down on it because he sees he 

579
00:32:58,010 --> 00:33:02,000
names God as the true God. 
And so that implication is there

580
00:33:02,010 --> 00:33:05,320
also for the Samaritan that he's
naming God as the true God and 

581
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:11,210
kind of rejecting other forms of
God, the gods worship, etcetera.

582
00:33:11,220 --> 00:33:13,830
He's like he's zeroed in on the 
real deal here. 

583
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,650
Yeah. 
So talk to us a little bit about

584
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:17,230
the difference that happens 
there. 

585
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,510
So, so cleansed. 
I don't recall. 

586
00:33:19,580 --> 00:33:21,370
I don't think I looked up that 
word exactly. 

587
00:33:21,380 --> 00:33:24,140
It's not the same or it's, it's,
it's not, it's certainly not the

588
00:33:24,150 --> 00:33:32,430
same because the idea of made 
well, which I looked up, I 

589
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,310
looked up the Greek in my, I 
have these, I have these like 

590
00:33:37,420 --> 00:33:41,990
they're like King James Bible 
like that. 

591
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,360
You look up the word in the King
James and then you, it's a very 

592
00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:45,860
old school. 
You can just, you can just do it

593
00:33:45,870 --> 00:33:47,380
online. 
But I, I sometimes like the 

594
00:33:47,390 --> 00:33:50,710
physicality of like I'm going to
look up the, the, the word in, 

595
00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:53,460
in the, the gold King James and 
then look it up in this like 

596
00:33:53,470 --> 00:33:58,280
big, thick, like 3 inch thick 
lexical, you know, dictionary 

597
00:33:58,370 --> 00:34:01,420
and you go in and the word, 
whatever it was, I can't recall 

598
00:34:01,430 --> 00:34:03,960
exactly. 
It took up about 3 pages. 

599
00:34:03,970 --> 00:34:05,640
So. 
So yeah. 

600
00:34:06,860 --> 00:34:08,659
Yes, yes, yeah. 
I mean, you know, more than I 

601
00:34:08,670 --> 00:34:11,639
do, but it like it took up so 
much space. 

602
00:34:11,710 --> 00:34:16,100
And I was like, this is clearly 
very complicated in terms of 

603
00:34:16,110 --> 00:34:20,060
like, in terms of its use case, 
in terms of its, you know, like 

604
00:34:20,070 --> 00:34:23,020
the complexity of of how it's 
used. 

605
00:34:23,250 --> 00:34:29,420
So there's a lot going on. 
Most scholars would say the ten 

606
00:34:29,429 --> 00:34:32,159
were all healed of their 
affliction, their physical 

607
00:34:32,170 --> 00:34:39,190
affliction. 
The Samaritan was saved right 

608
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,210
in, in, in the sense in the, in 
the, the sense in which we think

609
00:34:43,219 --> 00:34:47,159
of someone being saved today, 
someone receives Jesus, as you 

610
00:34:47,170 --> 00:34:49,620
know, like the classic, like 
evangelical evangelical 

611
00:34:49,630 --> 00:34:51,989
language, like receive Jesus as 
Lord and Savior, right? 

612
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,270
And that's what happens here, 
right? 

613
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,350
That is there. 
This is a a turning point and a 

614
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,050
salvation moment for the 
Samaritan. 

615
00:35:00,660 --> 00:35:03,270
And, and even in the language 
and I highlighted this, you 

616
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,660
know, this, this yesterday of 
like the rise and go language 

617
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:09,840
being being resurrection 
language that that is like, yes,

618
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:12,400
I know that he's literally at 
the at Jesus's feet. 

619
00:35:12,450 --> 00:35:15,700
Yeah, but but he's he's saying 
like, hey, like get up. 

620
00:35:15,710 --> 00:35:19,280
This is you are you are rising 
into new life. 

621
00:35:19,650 --> 00:35:23,520
Like it's so it's so profound 
and so intentional. 

622
00:35:23,530 --> 00:35:25,410
The way that Jesus speaks to 
this man. 

623
00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:28,300
He's like, get up. 
You have a new lease on life. 

624
00:35:28,370 --> 00:35:31,640
You are, you are being raised to
life in a new way into a new 

625
00:35:31,650 --> 00:35:34,680
life in the same way that in in,
you know, the Gospel of John, 

626
00:35:34,750 --> 00:35:38,570
Jesus describes with with 
Nicodemus this idea of, of being

627
00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:40,990
born again. 
This this Samaritan has been 

628
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,380
born again. 
He has been not just made well, 

629
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,270
physically, you know, with, with
new baby skin like naming. 

630
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,630
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But but he has been saved. 

631
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,270
Yeah, yeah. 
That's good. 

632
00:35:53,580 --> 00:35:55,090
Yeah. 
It's interesting to me that that

633
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,630
word so. 
So So that word in Greek is 

634
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,440
translated as healed and saved 
and all. 

635
00:36:01,450 --> 00:36:02,520
It gets confused. 
Exactly. 

636
00:36:02,530 --> 00:36:06,690
The only difference is the 
immediate context, but the 

637
00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:09,900
implication is that you you're 
never reading 1 without the 

638
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:10,960
other. 
Yeah, right. 

639
00:36:10,970 --> 00:36:14,080
Like that's the implication of 
that word is that to be healed 

640
00:36:14,090 --> 00:36:16,060
is to be saved. 
To be saved is to be healed. 

641
00:36:16,070 --> 00:36:22,240
Like it all of the the person is
implicated in the thing. 

642
00:36:22,510 --> 00:36:25,130
Your spiritual life, your 
physical life, your emotional, 

643
00:36:25,140 --> 00:36:29,840
relational, social, all of the 
things are meant to be 

644
00:36:29,890 --> 00:36:32,400
integrated into what Jesus does 
when he gets hold of you. 

645
00:36:32,450 --> 00:36:34,880
I love this. 
So this is it's baptism language

646
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:38,840
is what you're saying. 
Like like rise and go is 

647
00:36:39,030 --> 00:36:43,110
language of baptism like to to 
be raised with Christ. 

648
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,490
Plug for baptisms on June. 7th 
baptism Sunday. 

649
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:48,160
Yeah. 
And we will dunk you in the 

650
00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:50,370
tank, Yeah. 
And then we will raise you up, 

651
00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:52,840
and then we'll say to you, God. 
Like, not if your baby though. 

652
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:57,460
Well, within reason, right? 
How young is too young to be 

653
00:36:57,470 --> 00:36:58,980
dunked? 
That's that's that's what I'm 

654
00:36:58,990 --> 00:37:00,560
thinking. 
Podcast for another. 

655
00:37:00,570 --> 00:37:04,390
Day. 
So it is the IT is the rise and 

656
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,050
then go, the go of vocation. 
Like the go your life is now. 

657
00:37:08,060 --> 00:37:12,710
Like you're being sent, your 
life is released to be lived 

658
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:14,670
differently. 
And I'd love to know what this 

659
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,490
guy's life is life like after, 
you know, like, like what his 

660
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:21,290
what Like, does he go back to 
Samaria like you? 

661
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:23,930
I kind of assume he does. 
Like, I kind of assume he goes 

662
00:37:23,940 --> 00:37:27,040
back to Samaria and and I mean, 
again, that's where he's going 

663
00:37:27,050 --> 00:37:31,000
to be accepted for, you know, 
and not rejected as unclean and 

664
00:37:31,010 --> 00:37:34,030
whatnot. 
But like I just what is his life

665
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,940
look like? 
Does he, is he like the, you 

666
00:37:35,950 --> 00:37:39,900
know, the woman at the well and 
John four that that's that she 

667
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:42,900
becomes a little evangelist for 
for Jesus once she's received 

668
00:37:42,910 --> 00:37:47,180
salvation, you know, does he go 
back home and and live like that

669
00:37:47,190 --> 00:37:49,560
woman? 
You know, like, yeah. 

670
00:37:49,610 --> 00:37:52,280
It, I mean, it does. 
I asked the same question it 

671
00:37:52,290 --> 00:37:55,800
reminds me of So an axe. 
There's the story of the 

672
00:37:55,810 --> 00:38:04,130
Ethiopian Munich and so it's in 
eight Acts chapter 8 and it, you

673
00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:06,520
know, if we were to just 
continue from Luke into Acts, 

674
00:38:06,530 --> 00:38:08,790
we'll get there eventually. 
We'll see. 

675
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:11,450
But. 
I gave a little wink on. 

676
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,820
I've hinted at that. 
We're not going, we're not going

677
00:38:13,830 --> 00:38:16,450
to go immediately into Acts, but
we are, we are going to, we'll, 

678
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:20,230
we'll do Acts at some point. 
And so in Acts Chapter 8, we get

679
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:24,350
Philip in Samaria. 
So you get like the very similar

680
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,940
location to this. 
Moment. 

681
00:38:25,950 --> 00:38:29,790
I had forgotten about that. 
And then so he interacts with 

682
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:35,570
this dude, Simon the sorcerer. 
And then so in, in like partway 

683
00:38:35,580 --> 00:38:41,490
through 8, the an Angel says to 
Philip go South to the road, the

684
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:44,830
desert Rd. that goes down from 
Jerusalem to Gaza. 

685
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,170
And so he starts out and he 
meets this Ethiopian eunuch and 

686
00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:50,750
he, the Ethiopian eunuch is 
baptized. 

687
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,990
So again, we get this very 
similar story that doesn't have 

688
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,030
leprosy, but he is a, he is a 
gentile. 

689
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:01,230
He is outside of the bounds of, 
of Judaism and what that 

690
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:04,110
understanding of covenant people
would have looked like. 

691
00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:10,710
He, he there's this great line 
where the, the Ethiopian eunuch 

692
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:15,070
is reading the book of Isaiah 
and Phillips understand. 

693
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,210
Yeah, Phillips, like, do you 
understand what you're eating, 

694
00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:18,630
dude? 
Like, how could I possibly 

695
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,970
unless someone explains it to 
me? 

696
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,870
And then on the road, So Philip 
ran up to the chariot and heard.

697
00:39:24,940 --> 00:39:28,730
And then he says he So he like, 
it's like he hops in dudes like,

698
00:39:28,740 --> 00:39:31,950
OK, he he invites the Ethiopian 
eunuch, invited Philip to come 

699
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,610
up and sit with him. 
And then on the road, Phillip 

700
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,530
explains what this guy's been 
reading. 

701
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,810
He gets baptized. 
Is like, look, here's water. 

702
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:44,630
Can we go do the thing right 
now? 

703
00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:48,460
I I love the way you phrases it.
What can stand in the way of my 

704
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:49,990
being baptized? 
Like it's. 

705
00:39:50,030 --> 00:39:51,290
It's so fun. 
Like like. 

706
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:54,340
Yeah, surely nothing, right. 
And he's like, there's water 

707
00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:56,920
right here and so let's do the 
thing. 

708
00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:59,520
And then he gets baptized. 
And I, I love this. 

709
00:39:59,530 --> 00:40:03,560
It's a similar kind of. 
You know, he, he keeps like the 

710
00:40:03,570 --> 00:40:05,940
the Ethiopian eunuch on his on 
his way. 

711
00:40:06,010 --> 00:40:09,020
Yeah. 
But man, do we know from church 

712
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:14,020
history how Christianity 
exploded and where it went and 

713
00:40:14,030 --> 00:40:16,760
how it traveled. 
And I go, who knows what this 

714
00:40:16,770 --> 00:40:20,840
guy took with him as he went. 
And I I so I read, you know, I 

715
00:40:20,850 --> 00:40:24,760
read this Luke 17, the story of 
the Samaritan in the same way. 

716
00:40:24,770 --> 00:40:30,500
And I go, man, like we, we can't
grasp or comprehend the impact 

717
00:40:30,510 --> 00:40:34,530
that a single person whose life 
is grabbed, told of by Jesus, 

718
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,950
healed in a very real way, and 
then released is going to have 

719
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,240
on the people around that 
person. 

720
00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:45,830
So man, like that's if for me, I
read it and I go, I, I wish I 

721
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,550
knew. 
And then you kind of read back 

722
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,750
into church history. 
You see where Christianity 

723
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,530
explodes and moves to and you 
go, you know what? 

724
00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:57,230
We kind of don't have to know 
because it's very probable. 

725
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,490
I mean, and again, this one 
person, how many people? 

726
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:05,150
But like, we see him at his 
life, his rise go, your faith 

727
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,680
has made you well. 
And you go that dude, his life 

728
00:41:07,690 --> 00:41:08,700
was changed. 
Yeah. 

729
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:10,790
And he carried that with him 
wherever he went. 

730
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,820
Doesn't matter where the where 
the where was. 

731
00:41:12,830 --> 00:41:15,030
Yeah, whether he went back home,
whether he stuck around 

732
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,260
somewhere else, you know, and 
there. 

733
00:41:16,270 --> 00:41:17,330
Yeah. 
So like there's this 

734
00:41:17,370 --> 00:41:20,300
missiological component that we 
didn't really get into in the in

735
00:41:20,310 --> 00:41:24,060
the sermon itself and even in 
this passage in in Acts 8, 

736
00:41:24,070 --> 00:41:26,520
right. 
Of of like, hey, the, the, the 

737
00:41:26,530 --> 00:41:29,400
gospel is exploding all over the
place. 

738
00:41:29,690 --> 00:41:34,390
And, and, you know, we, we need 
to be aware of, we need, we 

739
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,630
wanted to notice what Jesus is 
doing and with whom. 

740
00:41:38,690 --> 00:41:41,630
And that matters, right? 
Because sometimes Jesus is going

741
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:48,950
to use very unlikely people and 
situations to, to, to further 

742
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,690
the Kingdom in, in these 
unexpected places, you know, 

743
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:57,850
like North America, the West 
doesn't have the keys to the 

744
00:41:57,860 --> 00:42:02,050
Kingdom, you know, and, and 
there is something that, you 

745
00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:05,780
know, we need to be humbled in 
this, right? 

746
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,560
And even when you think about 
just the way that the gospels 

747
00:42:09,570 --> 00:42:12,260
popping off in, in, in so many 
other parts of the world right 

748
00:42:12,270 --> 00:42:16,580
now, it is, it is a very 
humbling reminder that that God,

749
00:42:16,650 --> 00:42:19,600
you know, God is going to use me
and God's going to use you, but 

750
00:42:19,610 --> 00:42:21,800
he doesn't like, he doesn't need
me or doesn't need you. 

751
00:42:21,810 --> 00:42:24,180
Like he's doing his thing all 
all over the world, right? 

752
00:42:24,190 --> 00:42:27,800
And the profound way. 
So talk to us about as a final 

753
00:42:27,810 --> 00:42:33,780
point, this arc, this big arc 
that you mentioned on Sunday, 

754
00:42:33,790 --> 00:42:38,380
which is that in some way, so we
get these lepers, this colony of

755
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:42,380
people who all are suffering 
from variations of affliction. 

756
00:42:43,170 --> 00:42:49,390
And you know, we have, we've got
for people who are Jewish, we've

757
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,120
got Samaritans, we've got 
presumably others. 

758
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:57,810
Um, at the beginning, they're 
all living life together. 

759
00:42:58,530 --> 00:43:02,980
It's like the their illness 
breaks down these social 

760
00:43:02,990 --> 00:43:04,280
barriers. 
Yeah. 

761
00:43:04,350 --> 00:43:09,660
And then throughout the majority
of the story, they're they're 

762
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:11,730
like, OK, are we, are we 
together? 

763
00:43:11,740 --> 00:43:13,050
Are we not together? 
Yeah. 

764
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:14,980
Or you get the nine who go, you 
get the one who comes away. 

765
00:43:14,990 --> 00:43:16,590
And then they, they kind of 
separate. 

766
00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:22,890
And then we get what Jesus is 
doing, which transcends barrier 

767
00:43:23,060 --> 00:43:27,150
and division that we would 
construct and see and make and 

768
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:33,310
naturally experience. 
So it it, it talks to us about 

769
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:39,150
how like you alluded to the, the
leper colony in some way almost 

770
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,680
representing and fuller measure 
the Kingdom, like the community 

771
00:43:43,730 --> 00:43:46,240
within the Kingdom of God, what 
Jesus wants to do. 

772
00:43:46,310 --> 00:43:51,320
Yeah, on like the other side of 
the narrative arc here, when 

773
00:43:51,330 --> 00:43:56,030
things are made well, like they 
are for this Samaritan. 

774
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,810
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So, OK. 

775
00:43:57,860 --> 00:44:00,810
And I didn't use this analogy in
the sermon, but it did keep 

776
00:44:00,820 --> 00:44:02,510
coming to mind. 
And it's coming to mind again, 

777
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:08,520
this idea of like a bunch of 
like teenagers that go away for 

778
00:44:08,530 --> 00:44:10,290
like summer camp. 
Hmm. 

779
00:44:10,330 --> 00:44:12,380
And, and, and just like work 
with me here. 

780
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:17,140
So, so like you get kids from 
all sorts of backgrounds, all 

781
00:44:17,150 --> 00:44:19,100
sorts of eight, like stages of 
life. 

782
00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:21,560
And you know, like, like they're
all within a, you know, a 

783
00:44:21,570 --> 00:44:22,700
relative age bracket or 
whatever. 

784
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:25,460
But like they're all coming from
all over the province or even 

785
00:44:25,470 --> 00:44:28,340
the country or whatever. 
And they all come together and 

786
00:44:28,350 --> 00:44:30,640
it's just this weird mishmash of
people, right. 

787
00:44:30,750 --> 00:44:35,320
And like, invariably by the end 
of the week, hopefully, you 

788
00:44:35,330 --> 00:44:39,090
know, if, if they if things have
gone well, these kids from all 

789
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:42,670
these like, crazy backgrounds 
and house and, and houses and 

790
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,570
families and situations, they 
are like, they're all singing, 

791
00:44:45,580 --> 00:44:47,460
you know, proverbial kumbaya 
together. 

792
00:44:47,470 --> 00:44:50,120
And like, they, like, there's 
something so beautiful about 

793
00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:51,190
that. 
And we experience that. 

794
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,170
I work. 
I know you worked at Fair Havens

795
00:44:53,180 --> 00:44:56,770
when you were a teenager. 
I worked at the rival Muskoka. 

796
00:44:57,970 --> 00:45:00,850
Yeah. 
And, And so like, similar 

797
00:45:00,860 --> 00:45:01,940
things. 
And obviously there's always 

798
00:45:01,950 --> 00:45:03,890
like, tensions and some 
challenges, especially like if, 

799
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:06,150
you know, people start dating 
and then they break up and all 

800
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,060
that. 
But like, there is something 

801
00:45:08,070 --> 00:45:10,400
like this, this little bubble, 
this little bubble that they 

802
00:45:10,410 --> 00:45:13,460
were in that we were in. 
There's something really 

803
00:45:13,470 --> 00:45:14,880
beautiful. 
I remember coming home, I was 

804
00:45:14,890 --> 00:45:17,760
16, from, like, my first summer.
And I just like, started crying 

805
00:45:17,770 --> 00:45:19,650
because I was just like, I was 
tired and emotional, but I was 

806
00:45:19,660 --> 00:45:21,560
just like, I just miss all my 
friends, you know? 

807
00:45:21,570 --> 00:45:23,590
Like there was this beautiful 
community in this beautiful 

808
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,920
connection that was built. 
And there's like this like, 

809
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:27,340
yeah, something beautiful about 
that. 

810
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,680
That was like a little like, I 
just was thinking about that as 

811
00:45:31,690 --> 00:45:33,380
I thought about this leper 
colony. 

812
00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:35,600
Yeah, yeah. 
And also because you know, 

813
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:38,430
there's lies. 
Was just gonna say head lice. 

814
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,460
Everybody throws up at the same 
time. 

815
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:43,650
He ever gets gastro? 
Living in close quarters at all 

816
00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:45,840
just goes around. 
Yeah. 

817
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,250
So there's, there's some 
overlap, but, but no, like from 

818
00:45:50,260 --> 00:45:53,300
a, from a biblical perspective, 
the first thing that comes to 

819
00:45:53,310 --> 00:45:56,350
mind escalations theory, you 
know, and when Paul is, is 

820
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,720
writing about what the Kingdom 
of God looks like and, and, and 

821
00:46:00,730 --> 00:46:04,080
who we are as God's children. 
So I think it's just worth 

822
00:46:04,090 --> 00:46:10,480
reading the end of Galatians 3. 
So in Christ Jesus you are all 

823
00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:14,470
children of God through faith, 
for all of you are baptized into

824
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,220
Christ. 
And who clothe yourself with 

825
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:18,160
Christ. 
There is neither Jew nor 

826
00:46:18,170 --> 00:46:19,640
Gentile. 
That's obviously the most 

827
00:46:19,650 --> 00:46:22,820
important thing for us here. 
Neither slave nor free, nor is 

828
00:46:22,830 --> 00:46:27,120
nor is there male and female. 
For you are one in Christ Jesus.

829
00:46:27,230 --> 00:46:32,080
If you belong to Christ, then 
you are Abraham's seed and heirs

830
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:36,780
according to their promise. 
And that's like, that is a whole

831
00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:40,060
other episode, like just 
unpacking what what Paul means 

832
00:46:40,070 --> 00:46:44,420
by if you are in Christ, you 
are, you are a part of the line 

833
00:46:44,430 --> 00:46:47,960
of Abraham, right? 
And and and like, I don't think 

834
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:52,440
the the Jewish lepers would have
necessarily agreed with that, 

835
00:46:52,530 --> 00:46:56,100
right? 
But yet they were functionally 

836
00:46:56,110 --> 00:46:59,520
living in a way that was saying,
Hey, we're all in this together.

837
00:47:00,510 --> 00:47:04,140
We are all we're, we're, we're 
all dealing with the same 

838
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:06,980
affliction. 
We are all humbled right now. 

839
00:47:07,570 --> 00:47:11,070
And so there is something 
significant about even even if 

840
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,020
it didn't stay that in the same 
way that, you know, summer camp,

841
00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:15,290
you all gotta go home at some 
point. 

842
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:17,930
Yeah. 
Like, these guys all were healed

843
00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:21,470
and went their own way. 
There's something significant 

844
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,810
about the fact that they were 
living in this, in this 

845
00:47:25,820 --> 00:47:31,300
community together, all sharing 
their lives together. 

846
00:47:31,590 --> 00:47:33,120
Yeah. 
They were, they were living. 

847
00:47:33,130 --> 00:47:35,700
Here's here's the language that 
I find hits for me. 

848
00:47:35,710 --> 00:47:37,260
They were living as though it 
were true. 

849
00:47:38,030 --> 00:47:40,320
Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Already, Yeah. 

850
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:43,240
And I think that's like that's 
the invitation for us is like to

851
00:47:43,250 --> 00:47:46,020
live as though it was. 
It's already true, yes, because 

852
00:47:46,030 --> 00:47:47,840
it doesn't feel it all the time.
No. 

853
00:47:47,850 --> 00:47:50,640
And we still see. 
But like there's a choice to 

854
00:47:50,650 --> 00:47:54,570
live as though it is true. 
And I think that's that's a 

855
00:47:54,580 --> 00:47:56,740
that's a great place. 
That's a hopeful place, I think,

856
00:47:56,750 --> 00:48:02,150
to end our episode for today. 
And even just to say like to 

857
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:07,550
that end, yes, there can be like
an idealism, like a naivete in 

858
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,350
some ways. 
And yet I have to believe, I 

859
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:16,030
have to believe that God wants 
for us to to live out this 

860
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,230
reality of there is neither Jew 
nor Gentile, neither slave nor 

861
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:21,810
free nor male or female. 
Not that our differences don't 

862
00:48:21,820 --> 00:48:23,500
matter. 
Our differences exist, they're 

863
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:26,730
plain to see, but that in Christ
we are one. 

864
00:48:26,740 --> 00:48:30,350
And that is, that is the goal 
that we will strive for until 

865
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,890
the end. 
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 

866
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,680
So we hope that this episode has
been encouraging to you and 

867
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:39,610
challenges you to live as though
it were true today. 

868
00:48:39,620 --> 00:48:46,370
We believe it is and that life 
is better when we work toward 

869
00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:49,850
community in this way. 
So again, please know that we're

870
00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:52,230
praying for you. 
We hope that you have a great 

871
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,960
rest of the week and we will 
catch you in our next episode.

