Hello everybody, welcome to the Sunday Sit Down podcast.
You will notice that neither of us are Grant and or Justin.
I hadn't noticed. Yeah, shocking, I know.
So if you don't know who we are, my name is Abby.
I am the food cupboard coordinator for the summer here
at court. Right?
And. I'm Annabelle.
I'm the digital communications coordinator this summer.
And Annabelle also was the one who brought us the word on
Sunday morning. So that was really cool.
And Annabelle and I are super excited to be, yeah, some Gen.
Z women taking over. The pod podcast.
Just like Gen. Z does.
Takes over podcast. Yeah, basically, yeah.
So we're really excited to kind of talk a little bit about the
passage that Annabelle preached on on Sunday and some of the
things that are difficult to fit into a 2530 minute sermon.
Yeah, yeah, we're super excited. So before we kind of get yapping
away, I am going to read us this week's passage, which was from
Luke 8 verse 4256. It says Now when Jesus returned,
a crowd welcomed him for they were all expecting him.
Then a man named Cyrus, a synagogue leader, came and fell
at Jesus feet, pleading with him to come to his house because his
only daughter, a girl of about 12, was dying.
As Jesus was on his way, the crowds almost crushed him and a
woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for 12
years, but no one could heal her.
She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak,
and immediately the bleeding stopped.
Who touched me? Jesus asked.
When they all denied it, Peter said, Master, the people are
crowding and pressing against you.
But Jesus said, Someone touched me.
I know that power has gone out from me.
Then the woman, seeing that she could not go unnoticed, came
trembling and fell at his feet. In the presence of all the
people. She told why she had touched him
and how she had been instantly healed.
Then he said to her daughter, Your faith has healed you, go in
peace. While Jesus was still speaking,
someone came from the House of Cyrus, the synagogue leader.
Your daughter is dead. He said, don't bother the
teacher anymore. Hearing this, Jesus said to
Cyrus, don't be afraid, just believe and she will be healed.
When he arrived at the House of Gyrus, he did not let anyone go
in with him except Peter, John and James, and the child's
father and mother. Meanwhile, all the people were
wailing and mourning for her. Stop wailing, Jesus said, She is
not dead, but asleep. They laughed at him, knowing
that she was dead. But he took her by the hand and
said, My child, get up. Her spirit returned, and at once
she stood up. Then Jesus told them to give her
something to eat. Her parents were astonished, but
he ordered them not to tell anyone what had happened.
It's a pretty hefty passage. A lot happens.
So much happened. And why we have a podcast.
We can go deeper than we do on Sundays.
So where do you want to? Where do you want to start us
off? Where are you itching to say?
I think, I think a main thing that we should right out of the
gate talk about is that these stories about healing, like
they're about healing and they're powerful stories, but
it's also hard. It's hard to hear about stories
about healing sometimes, especially when you're going
through seasons of life when you're not being healed or
you're needing healing or physical.
We're talking about like physical healing.
And so I think we should start there of like there's a quiet
grief in not yet in the waiting in the.
And there are a lot of people in our church community who are in
that season of waiting for healing and not knowing if or
when it will come. And that's a really difficult
place to be in, especially when you're hearing about healing.
Yeah, that that does come to pass, being being preached
about. Yeah.
And I think that's why, like, well, I was writing my sermon.
I was trying to get that message across of like, this is hard and
we don't have all the answers, but specifically, um, the you're
not less faithful if you're still sick like that.
Yeah, yeah. Like Jesus saying daughter, your
faith has healed you does not automatically mean the inverse
of that. Like your lack of faith is
hindering your healing, or you know you're somehow failing, or
God is waiting for you to just try harder to have more faith
before he allows for your healing or the healing of a
loved 1. Like, I don't think that's at
all what Jesus is saying and that our bodies that are stuck
in this world of brokenness are not representative of our
faithfulness. And that does not mean that
faith is not important, but I think it it does mean that we
can still acknowledge who God is and God's goodness and be
faithful to God in the ways that we we can and are able even when
we are sick. Yeah.
And it's not a measure of it. And that also isn't a hindrance
for us. Yeah, it's, yeah.
It's important to remember that because it's easy to, when
you're looking at these stories and Jesus literally says, like,
your faith has healed you. That was surprising.
Wow. It's 12:30, everybody.
Awesome. Like it's easy to forget and
think, oh, maybe I don't have enough faith.
Yeah, but yeah. Or I'm not, you know, I'm not
trying hard enough to approach Jesus and that's the reason that
I haven't been healed. In a similar sense, though, I
think it's also crucial to acknowledge that when we say
these are healing passages, we're not only referring to the
physical healing that's taking place, these stories in this
particular passage, our stories of physical healing, but that's
actually not even the only type of healing that's taking place.
And Jesus really, really goes out of his way to.
Showcase that. To showcase that and to provide
healing for the woman who bled for 12 years.
And then this girl and her her parents opportunities for
emotional and spiritual healing that come in conjunction with
their physical healing. And so it, you know, there's no
sectioning off of healing in Jesus's world.
Yeah, it's like Jesus isn't deliberately trying to be like,
no, no, no, don't stop, Don't stop at the physical healing.
Like that is only one thing. That is an amazing thing.
But that is not who I am. Only like, I'm not only here to
physically heal you. Yeah.
And he does that by like, he he
stops like he's healed the woman, but he still stops to
talk to her, not to heal her physically anymore.
Like that's done. She's she's happy.
She is a happy clam of joy that she is physically healed
instantaneously is. What it is and that she felt it,
she knew when she tells, when she does eventually have to
speak, she says like I touched him and she was instantly, I was
instantly healed. So I can't even imagine just
like all of the sudden knowing that I am healed.
Of pain like it's over. It's just done that, yeah, that
level of healing. But Jesus could have just kept
walking, yeah? He was.
Like he was already a man on a
mission wanted. Like, she just wanted the
physical healing. She was like, OK, if I just
touch him, she wasn't going up there being like, OK, I got to
talk to him and. He's I want him to acknowledge
me in front of these crowds that there's so many of them.
They're crushing Jesus like I love attention.
Yeah, no, she got up there and she was like, I just need to
touch his cloak. Not even him.
So like she in her mind, she's we would think that.
She's gotten what she came for. But Jesus knows there's more.
Jesus knows that there's more and Jesus was already like Gyrus
had already come to him and said my daughter is dying, please
come to my house. So Jesus is on his way to what
we would probably easily consider a much more urgent
need. Like there is a child who is
dying and there is a man of a significant amount of authority
coming to Jesus and saying I, I need you to heal my kid.
That's an insane amount of desperation, and Jesus still
takes the time to turn around and say something just happened.
Yeah, I know that power has gone out for me.
And he sets time aside to acknowledge this woman, not
outing her for the risks she took, which were significant.
Like you touched me, now I'm unclean.
Like what's? Yeah, she he wasn't.
For for her to be, you know, pushing through the crowds,
touching Jesus, like because she was bleeding under the Levitical
law, she was like ritually unclean and anybody that she
touched was also unclean. So this didn't just have to do
with her purity, but every single person she interacted
with. And if anyone found her out, the
consequences for that we're huge.
On top of the fact that because of her uncleanliness, she was
already outcast from society. She couldn't interact with
people. She couldn't worship in the
temple the way that everybody else could.
So she's already so cut off and she's taking a risk of making
that only worse. And instead Jesus turns to her
and says you are healed. He publicly acknowledges that
she is no longer unclean. He calls her daughter.
He calls her daughter and names her as worthy and whole, and
there's something so beautiful about that because he doesn't
just restore her physical body but also her social status.
I can imagine emotionally like 12 years of doctors and nobody
being able to provide you answers is exhausting and to
have that all relieved in a moment.
And not only like not having answers and like be having this
painful like thing you're going through for 12 years, but like,
she has a family. You would have to assume like
she has a family, she has friends, she had them and then
she doesn't have them for 12 years.
Like, that in itself is emotionally painful, being cut
off from everyone, you know? So, yeah, yeah.
And now she gets to go back and say, you know, not just the
priest has told me or some synagogue leader has told me
that I am healed, but like this man Jesus, who is supposedly
very powerful. Like, you know, word is getting
around if there are these crowds chasing him.
Like he is the one who has told me that my life is now changed
from now on. And that carries like weight,
like the reputation that Jesus would have had would have meant
that her testimony was incredible.
It just this story is insane. Yeah, and insane also in the way
that, like, again, he stops. I think that is the like a
pinnacle point of like, whoa, because like you said, he was on
his way to a little girl. But not even that.
Like he was following Gyrus like a synagogue leader, a guy.
He was a man. Who had following another man.
But he had a lot of power in this time.
And arguably one would say that maybe his testimony or Gyrus
speaking goodly, goodly, that's not a word.
Well of Jesus would have carried more weight.
It would have been like, oh, this cool guy, but no, he stops
and now it's a woman. Like and an unclean woman.
Unclean woman and he's like, in this time, like most people
would want to be in the good books of the synagogue leader.
And you know the purity laws, it's a lot of work to go from
being unclean to clean. Like in the Levitical laws about
bleeding. Once the bleeding has stopped,
you have to wait 7 more days and then you offer a sacrifice.
It's not easy. 1 dove or two doves.
Don't remember off the top of my head, but there's a lot of work
into this spiritual ritual changing.
It's not like I'm just gonna have a shower and we're done.
Here. And Jesus did that for her.
Yeah, in a moment. Also at cost to himself.
But we already know Jesus. Jesus doesn't care about those
tanks, no. Or maybe not that he doesn't
care, but that he has his priorities straight.
Everything for him is ordered properly.
And yeah, I do love in this passage that it does feel very
jarring that Jesus just stops what he's doing to acknowledge
this woman in a very vulnerable position.
But it's it's been a good reminder for me to remember that
all of Scripture, like the Old Testament, also tells stories of
God going out of the way to acknowledge women in their most
vulnerable situations and affirm their dignity and their worth
and their value in the Kingdom. One of my favorite kind of fun
facts about the Bible is that in Genesis, the very first person
to name God. So in the Old Testament, you'll
see a lot of like Jyra or Yahweh is a name for God or Jehovah,
and they all have slightly different meanings.
And the very first one that is ascribed to God was from a
woman. Her name was Hagar, and she was
fleeing from abuse in the desert.
She had a very, very small baby with her.
She had gotten pregnant and been cast out.
And God meets her in the wilderness and provides for her
and her son and vows to protect her done for the rest of his
life. And she names God El ROI, which
means the God who sees me. She says I have seen the one who
sees me. And this idea of.
We see it again in this passage. God's.
Stopping and seeing this woman. When he doesn't have to.
No, it's nice that he did though.
Like in our humanness, like it's like she's healed.
Like move doesn't move on like. There's a girl, there's there's
we got places. To be, to be like in our daily
life, we do this. We're like, OK, great, moving
on. I have like 10 other things I
need to do right now, but Jesus like is like no no, no, no.
In fact, like the physical healing might not even be the
most important part. Like, yeah, you know, like,
that's great. It is amazing but.
To be acknowledged by God in that way is really, really
powerful. And I think it's also a good
reminder for when we don't experience physical healing,
when we go through years and years of doctors and treatments
and pain and things that don't work, that God can still heal us
in other ways and be sufficient for us in other ways.
Like I think about the people in my life who I have watched
suffer with sickness, but who are so calm and still and steady
in their faith. Because even when God didn't
heal them physically, he met them in their hardest emotions
and in the times in their faith where they felt like they didn't
have faith. And He healed and restored those
areas of their lives in a way that allowed them to continue to
seek the presence of God even without physical healing.
Because we live with the knowledge that one day in
heaven, like our whole selves will be healed and we will get
to experience the total, complete wholeness.
I guess all those words kind of mean the same thing, but really
hammer at home. Like the crucifixion, like I
said this, it was an amazing foreshadowing, this story of
like what Jesus ultimately is here to do, which is die on the
cross for us and to take all of our brokenness and restore us in
salvation, which again means like wholeness of body, mind and
spirit. And I think that wholeness is
really shown in these passages of like, he's not just seeing
your physical needs, but he's like, no, there's.
More and long term like it's not just what we need for this
moment, but what is going to set us up for a life of fullness
moving forward. And I guess the point we're kind
of really trying to a roundabout.
Way. Trying to drive home is that
these are they're throughout the book of Luke, throughout the
Gospels, throughout the Bible, there are stories of healing.
But I think what Luke is really trying to showcase is not
necessarily the healing is the main point, but that these are
all moments where Jesus revealed himself to people and his
character and his nature to people who needed it, people who
were observing it. And as much as he acknowledged
the woman for her own sake, he also did that to showcase his
power and authority over sickness and over our bodies
that came to him, from God to the crowds.
And his care, like in the next part, he just raises a girl from
death. Like that in itself is wood.
She was sleeping. She was she was dead.
But no. But he does this and like the
parents are standing there and. Astonished.
Like they don't say anything, but if my child was all of a
sudden raised, like you're going from reef to like holy, like
amazingness. And Jesus isn't like, yeah,
applaud me or like, look at me guys.
He's like, oh. She needs.
She probably is hungry. She's been sleeping so long she
needs something and that just shows like again, who he is
like. He cares and he also Jewish like
grieving rituals were very, very communal.
And so by the time Jesus gets to the house, there are people they
are wailing. They are.
Weeping their mourning and it's
this very communal mourning process and Jesus kicks them all
out of the house and so. He script again.
Allows this family this intimate moment without he reveals
himself, but not to the crowds. This time he protects the, you
know, emotions of this family and of this child, brings her
back to life and then doesn't just let everybody in and be
like, I told you guys, she was sleeping.
He says, yeah, this daughter of mine probably needs a snack.
And he so he does. He cares for our full selves.
He cares for our physical needs and also deeply for our
emotional and spiritual ones and seeks to protect that.
And that I just. I think that's so beautiful.
Yeah, but. Yeah.
I think, yeah, one of the major, like, questions while I was
going through this passage, while we were going through this
passage is like, what if healing begins with being seen and not
just fixed? Like, that's Ouch.
Yeah. But like a different way of
thinking about it is like, I don't know, is that enough?
Like really, when you're in the midst of it, like hearing like,
oh, God sees you, it's hard and you're like, OK, great, but you
know, I broke my arm or. Like yeah, I did do that.
Yeah, but like, but really like wrestling with that question is
like, what if healing begins with being seen?
Yeah. And I wonder, I mean, we'll
never know, but I wonder if that was maybe the experience of the
parents of this girl of I don't know.
I know for me, when I am grieving, it's made as an
introvert so much harder by the constant slew of people cycling
through and the IT feels very, very overwhelming for me.
And so I can just imagine the relief of this man with all of
this authority walking into my house and saying everybody out,
yeah, I would just that would yeah.
Sometimes I wish Jesus would come and do that for me still,
like you, you know, Jesus is an advocate in that way.
And I, yeah, I can just imagine how healing that would be in
that moment, to know that Jesus hadn't raised their daughter
from the dead yet, but they had someone on their team who was
looking out for them and caring for them in ways that they
couldn't articulate, even though it went entirely against the
practices of that community. Not that those practices are,
are wrong. I think there's something really
beautiful about grieving communally.
And I think that that's something.
Something we do here at like 1 things, things happen.
Like people show up with casseroles like.
They're we are a great casserole.
Church. But I think in general, it's
becoming less and less practiced.
I think we kind of wall off our grief because we have to show up
for life in other ways. And grief makes us uncomfortable
in a way that seeing mourners and people wailing outside of
someone's house wouldn't have made people uncomfortable.
If I saw that, I would be concerned on many levels.
Yeah. But I think there is something
important about inviting other people into the suffering we are
experiencing with us. And I wish I had the wisdom of
Jesus to know when things should happen in front of crowds or
when things should happen behind closed doors.
I think I don't always do a good job of that as an introvert who
would just love to always be behind.
Just keep me out of it, Jesus. But it's something to be said
that like, yes, communal, like grief coming alongside people,
amazing. But in this story, like Jesus
shoots everyone out like goodbye, you know, and it's just
him, his three closest disciples and the parents, which is crazy
in the time. But also like what he does later
is even crazy now, like he just heals this girl.
But him, like his presence, like being there, it sort of goes
hand in hand. It's like had his presence is is
it enough in the midst of this, like before the daughter is
healed before your situation changes or before like when
you're in that waiting, that pain like he Jesus is there?
Yeah, it's not wrong to ask for healing.
Yeah, yeah. But I think I feel challenged
that I should first be asking for God's presence and saying
that OK before I decide what I want or need the outcome to be.
And I almost always like I we, we desire healing because that's
how God, like God, made us to be whole.
And we live in a world where that's not the reality because
of sin. But desiring healing is not the
problem. But I think sometimes we do that
without also desiring the God who brings that healing.
We're just running to him, like in fear, in pain, in all
inspiration, like, yeah, just going to Jesus, who is already
there, like he's not. Not the parent.
Yeah, he's not not present, but sometimes it's really easy to
forget or not feel him or like be like, where?
Where are you? God, you know, but having that.
A posture. The first instinct to be to not
wall yourself off. Or not the first instinct, but
like a conscious decision of like, you know, kind of self
correcting and the like. I want to go frantic.
I feel this desperation. I am, you know, ready to break
rules to get the healing that I I desire.
And pausing, Yeah. And saying OK, I need to Orient
myself. I need to figure out where God
is in this and if I can't find him easily then I need to to ask
for him. Yeah, finding that stillness.
To show up and just slow, slowing ourselves down and also
acknowledging that that also doesn't fix anything.
Yeah. And that feeling afraid when you
know our bodies are failing or our world is crumbling is not
wrong. Yeah, like the fact that, you
know, Gyrus came to Jesus afraid because his daughter was dying,
and that is scary. And then Gyrus is told that his
daughter is dead. And Gyrus has to trust the word
of the people who who said that. And Jesus says, well, I'm like,
we're still going like she's she's not dead.
Believe like she's going to be healed.
I can't imagine that makes the fear God well away, no.
Or the grief, like yeah. But nowhere.
I mean, OK, Jesus does say don't be afraid.
Yeah, but I think there is like Jesus was afraid, Hmm, before he
went to the cross. Yeah.
Sweating blood. As you do.
As one no. No.
No is a like physiological response to intense fear.
And Jesus still went to the cross, Yeah.
So this woman, she's trembling. She's shaking.
Defied. There's a crowd, like a lot of
people. And if people find out what
she's just done, her life is worse than it already has been.
And it's been awful for 12 years.
And so I think that I think you actually said it really well on
Sunday that Jesus wasn't asking for more faith.
He was asking for Gyrus to depend on God in ways that he
hadn't before. And I think that that's a really
helpful distinction for me in my times of fear is the if my fear
is preventing me from depending on God or preventing me from
stepping out in faith, then I need to not be afraid.
But there is a way to acknowledge the limitations of
our bodies and how they express emotions, one of which being
fear, and still walk in faith, still learn to depend on Jesus
even when it doesn't make any sense, and to continue to show
up in expectation and hope that God will.
God will move, but. But it's hard like, and I said
this Sunday like it is not this kind of like, OK, just pray, you
know, pray more or just, you know, ask God for XY and Z.
It's like, no, you, you're going to be scared.
Like you said, you're going to be scared.
You could be scared, you could be desperate and you can go and
it's going to be hard. Like these two people did stuff
that was really uncomfortable. Like I don't.
Think this woman was probably wanting to tell everyone what
has been going on for 12 years in this crowd.
I wouldn't. I'd be like, can we go to
private room? Jesus.
Like Jesus, you stop. And like Gyrus, he's a synagogue
leader. Like he doesn't want to.
Who's admitting? Who's admitting his child is
dying? Yeah, and he can't do.
Anything and he can't do anything.
And elsewhere in the Gospels, can't remember off the top of my
head, there's this situation where there's this man who is
blind and the disciples are like, so was it his sin or his
parents sin that made him this way?
Jesus. Uno reversed them and said
neither. Yeah, you need to fix your
attitudes. Yeah.
But there there was that kind of understanding at the time of,
like when people are sick or people it's their fault or their
parents fault. Yeah.
Like, it comes from this idea of like generational, like how sin
carries itself through generations and.
Would have been scary. For Cyrus, because he's this man
of spiritual authority who's in a situation that could
potentially showcase to people that he's done something awful,
or his parents have done something awful or his child has
done something awful, even though that's not the case and
not what's happening. It's just, it's just hard.
Yeah. And like we, we all have
situations that it's just. Hard.
And I think it's also, I love this passage and it also
frustrates me to no end because there are so many people who
never ever get the physical healing.
And I think for me that's there's sometimes a bitterness
that comes with that of the where are the people in
Scripture who don't get healed? You know, where are the people
who go to Jesus and you know, metaphorically, like reach for
the end of his cloak in faith and nothing happens.
And I think they're, you know, like there is just no answer for
that. Yeah, and that doesn't change
who God is. But it sucks and it's not fair.
And at the same time, I think there's still so much to learn
about what Jesus desires for us, meaning that he he doesn't
desire us to not be healed, and he doesn't desire for us to
suffer, and he doesn't want us to be outcast or cut off or in
pain. And I don't have answers for
anything else. Yeah.
And like, yeah, it's hard. It's something we wrestle with.
It's something like going into this week, we encourage you to
wrestle with like those questions that you don't have
answers with for. But it's one of those, yeah, why
not now? Why like we one day we will be
restored in like eternity, like with Jesus, but why not now?
And that's hard. But I think there's something to
be said for physical healing isn't the whole point.
And that is hard and that. Is and it's so easy to focus on
like, yeah, you know. When you're going through it,
you're like, OK, cool. It's not the whole like, that's
not the reason Jesus came down. He came down to like.
Reveal himself and talk about himself and be the Messiah and
yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm hurting, and that's OK
too. Like it is OK to be frustrated
about it. But we encourage you and for us
too, like wrestle with God, with that, like talk to him.
He can take it. Yeah.
That's not that, you know, I think like I talked about this
the last time I was on the podcast about toddler temper
tantrums. But like, I really like over and
over and over again, and especially with passages like
this, feel like instead of, you know, kneeling down in front of
Jesus, trembling of like, Oh my goodness, you've healed me.
I'm like throwing myself at Jesus feet kicking and screaming
and being like, what are you doing?
Yeah, as if I have, you know, any ounce of authority to go to
Jesus like that. But.
Which is probably what Cyrus was thinking like Cyrus was probably
like, what are you? Doing Can you pick up the pace
like let's. Go my daughter is dying or my
daughter's dead and like feeling where are you?
Where were you and how? How can you move now?
Like, yeah, Jesus's lack of urgency, sometimes shocking,
makes me go pitter patter, Yeah. But being able to like, talk to
God about that, talk to Jesus about it like.
And you know, the Jesus that we learn of in this passage is
still good and worth knowing. And even if it feels like that,
Jesus feels like that, Jesus isn't present with me.
Jesus is whole in ways that we will never be.
And that can be such a comfort that whether or not I've
experienced or think I've experienced the parts of Jesus
seen here like they are there. And I can rest in the fact that
Jesus is consistent and he is perfect and whole in his care
and compassion and critique and timing in ways that I will just
never be. And that's an opportunity for us
to be still and say I'm not God, but you are.
And so I can just let the urgency pass or attempt.
Yeah, again, hard, hard. Stealing yourself, It's all
hard, bottom line. Yeah, if you're taking anything
from this podcast, like these are hard things, these are
uncomfortable things we see in the.
Passage. They're not very clear.
They are not clear. We do not have all the answers
and that. Is I'm just a girl?
Yes, the most gensy thing I've ever said.
You can look that up later, but it is OK.
And sometimes that that is the point to like wrestle with these
things. And to just really, I think
Annabelle and I, as we were chatting, really wanted to
wrestle with the like. Is just being seen by God
enough? Hmm, and.
Can you be still? What does that change?
Because it's probably, definitely not gonna change the
circumstances, but. Knowing that God has.
Can that be enough to change? Yeah.
Your outlook or your perspective or just your ability to be at
peace no matter what the circumstances are?
Yeah. Yeah.
And one day we will be whole. And that's really exciting to
look forward to, to bodies that don't break when you fall down
mountains and you know there will be no more sickness and
death. And that all has that all has a
time limit. Yeah.
But in the waiting, in the now, in the questions and the the
like the not. Hard the hard.
Hard in the hard seasons or like just general?
This is not a season like it's been going on for 12 years like.
This is my whole life, the whole calendar.
Like have being seen by God, being seen by Jesus and knowing
like he wants and is restoring you in peace.
Like cat, can we grab hold of that piece?
Like can we sit still in God's presence and be like, OK, I got
nothing left. Like, I don't, I don't know, I
don't understand, but I'm giving it to you.
Yeah, and be expectant like Gyrus and this woman who was
bleeding were at the end of themselves.
They had no options left, and that ultimately brought them
healing. But also brought them to Jesus.
Yeah, that's also. That's that's pretty cool.
Yeah. Like they?
Yeah. They're, they're like, sometimes
I'm kind of jealous I didn't live 2025 years ago because I
mean, I also live in North America.
So that pretty good impacts my ability to just run into Jesus
on my my journeying, all the journeying I do.
But yeah, but in they're desperation, it brought them to
God, it brought them to Jesus, and that's pretty cool.
And I yeah, think that that is true and can be true for us too.
Yeah, we will. I think we'll end it there.
We'll, we'll wrap it up. We'll wrap it up, but in this
coming week, in the weeks to follow, when you're finding
yourself in these seasons of hard in these seasons of.
Where are you God? What is going on?
I need healing and I don't know what's happening.
Wrestle with that question like what if healing begins with
being seen? And what does wholeness look
like for you? And then just, yeah, being still
in your desperation and yeah, um.
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