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Well, good morning, everyone. 
I want to also welcome those of 

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you who are new with us here to 
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And if you're already connected 
to forward, you've been 

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journeying with us for a while, 
you know that we've been walking

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through the book of Luke for the
last number of months, but we're

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going to take a pause on the 
book of Luke as we move into the

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Easter season. 
So if you would take your 

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Bibles, open up to the Gospel of
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it's page 946. 
If you are using one of the 

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Bibles in the seat underneath of
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If you don't have a Bible that 
is our gift to you, please take 

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that home with you and use that 
just as you're opening up to 

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John chapter 5. 
I was reflecting this week on 

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how much I love a good mystery 
story. 

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I I love like seeing what's at 
the end, whether it's a like a 

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good murder mystery as a pastor 
allowed to say that, I don't 

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know, but I just did And I just 
seeing that and then trying to 

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put all the pieces together of 
the evidence. 

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Where does the evidence take us 
to to come to a conclusion at 

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the end of things, to try and 
figure out what exactly 

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happened. 
Sometimes there are mysteries 

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that they're so big that when 
you follow the evidence, they 

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can be potentially life changing
for yourself or for the other 

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people that are around you. 
For example, I want to show you 

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a picture up on the screen. 
This this is a picture of what's

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called the Copper Scroll. 
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beside the Dead Sea Scrolls in 
Qumran in Israel. 

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Now, it is believed that this is
actually a treasure map, a 

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treasure map that will take you 
to over $3 billion worth of gold

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and silver that was hidden in 
the 1st century. 

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Here's the cool thing, nobody 
has solved it yet. 

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So this is your opportunity. 
And I want to say if you decide 

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to take the challenge and go and
solve the mystery, your tithes 

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and offerings can be made 
payable to Forward Church. 

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All right. 
Over the last number of weeks, 

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we've also been looking at the 
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We've been exploring the 
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And we've looked at stories that
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character, the way he operates, 
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And one of the things we know 
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a Jewish culture. 
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culture. 
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people around him are making a 
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They are claiming that he is the
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world. 
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making the claim that he was the
Messiah was not going to be 

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enough, because in the culture 
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to be required to have multiple 
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it could be verified as being 
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That Jewish culture required at 
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So in John chapter 5, Jesus is 
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of the witnesses that exist for 
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We're not going to take the time
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witnesses, but from verse 31 
down to verse 37, we see several

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witnesses show up. 
Jesus says hey, John the Baptist

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testifies to who I am. 
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greater than me who was coming. 
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Jesus is. 
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works and the miracles that I 
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people, to set people free from 
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things testify to who I am. 
And then Jesus says even God the

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Father testifies to who I am. 
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the words well done, good and 
faithful servant from we hear 

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the words, this is my beloved 
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I'm well pleased. 
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over Jesus. 
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witness for who He is. 
I want to begin reading at verse

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39 of John chapter 5. 
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Scriptures because you think you
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yet they testify about me, but 
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so that you may have life. 
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people, but I know you, that you
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I have come in my Father's name,
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If someone else comes in His own
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How Can you believe, since you 
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but don't seek the glory that 
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Do not think that I will accuse 
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Your accuser is Moses, on whom 
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If you believe Moses, you would 
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about me. 
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wrote, how will you believe my 
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So here's the big idea of what 
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And this 4th witness in these 
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And he's saying the entire Bible
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the truth that you can only find
life in him. 

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Now, if you're a Christian, 
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course that is true. 
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Luke, and John are all the 
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and his death and his 
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We know that Acts, in a number 
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that are written to the early 
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story of people who are living 
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Even the Book of Revelation is a
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as being the sovereign king over
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world. 
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Jesus followers in Jesus 
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Testament is all about Jesus. 
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Old Testament as also testifying
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But here in the moment that 
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verses S not referring to how 
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him because the New Testament 
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He's referring to how the Old 
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testifies about him. 
Jesus is saying the Old 

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Now if that's new language for 
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Old Testament and New Testament.
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unpack that for you. 
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scriptures before Jesus is born.
They tell they tell the story of

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creation, they tell the story of
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people of Israel, his deep 
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tell the story of a group of 
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come and rescue them. 
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book of Matthew is telling us 
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point of Jesus birth on to the 
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If you were a Jew in the day 
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words, this would have rocked 
your world because your entire 

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life has been built around this 
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Your entire life has been built 
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believing it, memorizing it. 
And so all they knew was the Old

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Testament and Jesus is saying 
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studied. 
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It's about me Now I know that 
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people in that day, for us 
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to mean something very 
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For most people, the Old 
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one of the most difficult, 
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ignored parts of the Bible. 
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who, when they are going through
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hey, I wonder what Joel and Amos
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now. 
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when we're going through it. 
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over the next few weeks, we're 
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Old Testament and how exactly 
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who Jesus is. 
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spend some time unpacking the 
words of Jesus in John chapter 5

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as an introduction to the next 
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Easter. 
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going to identify three mistakes
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when it comes to the Old, the 
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it and understanding it. 
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Mistake number one is studying 
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how it points to Jesus. 
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you pour over the Scriptures and
you think they've got eternal 

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life in them, but yet they 
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If you believe Moses, you would 
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Now, if you grew up going to 
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the stories of the Old 
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And there are some pretty epic 
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aren't there? 
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you've got Moses and the people 
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You've got David and Goliath, 
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what it was when I was six years
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Honestly, when you read the 
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lion's den, you got Daniel in 
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You got so many things that are 
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passages. 
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of the Old Testament and we 
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they're confusing. 
We're not really sure which we 

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land on depending on the story, 
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made is that people will miss 
seeing how each individual story

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fits into a grander narrative, a
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unfolding. 
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story and go, man, that's cool, 
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actually each individual story 
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story, the story of the whole of
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around Jesus. 
That's what Jesus trying to tell

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us here. 
The Bible is not this series of 

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disconnected moral stories. 
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the stories and we look for the 
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for ourselves. 
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like this person or courage like
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And, and it's good to think 
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ourselves with that, but that's 
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that the Bible wants us to see. 
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designed to point us to Jesus. 
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I'm way past all the Bible 
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I like to go deeper into all the
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in the Old Testament. 
I want to dive in deep and 

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really understand what the Old 
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passages. 
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possible interpretation of a 
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want to do that. 
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mistake we make when we pour 
over the Scriptures is we miss 

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seeing how they testify about 
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There are so many people who are
great students of the 

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scriptures, but if your Bible 
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know Jesus and see Jesus, you've
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The the Old Testament 
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It's it's not like we get 
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suddenly we get to the good 
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Testament. 
OK, The Old Testament has things

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like prophecies, prophecies that
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including his life and his birth
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resurrection. 
Over 350 prophecies in the Old 

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Testament about the Messiah are 
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The Old Testament has what's 
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Jesus showing up, people, 
events, institutions that give 

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us this foreshadowing of Jesus. 
And we're going to talk more 

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about how that shows up next 
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But let me give you a quick 
example of what that looks like.

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Think about the story of Joseph,
the coat of many colors that 

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shows up on Joseph. 
And with Joseph, you have a guy 

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who is sold out by his brothers,
who suffers and lives in 

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isolation and ultimately rescues
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Sound familiar to anybody? 
The Old Testament sacrificial 

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system easily one of the most 
confusing things for us in 2026.

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But the rituals of the 
Tabernacle and the temple are 

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all given to symbolize the need 
for atonement of sins and the 

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future sacrifice of Jesus. 
We even have times in the Old 

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Testament where the Son of God 
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appears in the Old Testament. 
One of the most powerful 

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pictures of Jesus showing up in 
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Isaiah chapter 6. 
And we're not going to take the 

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time to look there. 
If you want to look there 

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quickly, you can. 
I'm going to paint this picture 

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of the first few verses of 
Isaiah 6. 

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Isaiah is brought into the 
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He's brought into this space 
where he is able to be in the 

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presence of God. 
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presence of God in God's throne 
room, what he sees is, is the 

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robe of God that fills the 
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And he sees this, this reality 
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around the throne and, and they 
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is the Lord God Almighty, Holy 
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This majestic scene is unfolding
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foundation of the temple 
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their voice and it was filled 
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And Isaiah's only response is, 
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He recognizes the holiness of 
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completely unworthy to stand in 
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He says I'm a man of unclean 
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He says, my eyes have seen the 
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If you turn over to John chapter
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Let's we're in John already. 
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Isaiah said these things because
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glory, and spoke about him. 
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Isaiah 6 before the Son of God 
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Jesus shows up in the Old 
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But then back in John chapter 5,
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of evidence for a Jew and he 
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Now that's a big deal to a Jew 
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supreme prophet because he spoke
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I'm glad you asked. 
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I'm going to put a verse up on 
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quoting Moses. 
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will raise up for you a prophet 
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brothers. 
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that he tells you, and everyone 
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prophet will be completely cut 
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The very first Christians quote 
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that Moses is talking about 
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there's another prophet that the
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everything that he tells them. 
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Moses. 
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Moses, you will see again and 
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redemption is designed to 
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We're going to see that through 
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in a couple of weeks from now. 
Moses shows us so many signs 

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that point to God's redemption 
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Now a lot of us go looking for 
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God, would you just give me a 
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there? 
Would you give me a sign to show

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me that you care? 
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from probably about 20 years ago
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Jim Carrey starred in a movie, 
Bruce Almighty. 

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I do not recommend it for 
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my favorite parts of the movie 
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he's kind of going through it 
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saying, God, would you just give
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Would you just give me a sign 
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Would you give me a sign that 
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Just give me a sign. 
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God, give me a sign. 
He's driving his car on a 

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highway and there's signs 
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Stop driving. 
This is dangerous. 

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Don't go there wrong way. 
Stop. 

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And he's like, God, please give 
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And he just keeps going and 
driving and missing all the 

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signs that are already in front 
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And so many of us, we keep 
saying, God, would you give me a

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sign that you're really there? 
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attention to the signs that 
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Sometimes we just ignore and 
walk past all the signs that are

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there. 
And, and God's saying like when 

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it comes to is Jesus really God?
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He's saying the signs are there,
you just have to pay attention 

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to them. 
That's what Jesus is trying to 

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tell us about the Old Testament.
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The only question is, will you 
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The second mistake that we make 
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the Old Testament through the 
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In verse 40, Jesus says these 
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5, you're not willing to come to
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Every time that you and I read 
the Bible and in particular Old 

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Testament passages, you're going
to be faced with a challenge of 

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trying to interpret what does 
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If you are unwilling to 
interpret the Old Testament 

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through the person of Jesus, you
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life that God wants for you. 
Sometimes we already have in our

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mind our our own idea of what we
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We, we often want the Scriptures
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already decided that we want for
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what I already want them to say 
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OK. 
And, and, and sometimes many 

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times when you interpret Old 
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person of Jesus, it is going to 
upset you because it's going to 

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change the way you should be 
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situation. 
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The way that you choose to 
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lead you to two very different 
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There are some of us who we love
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We love everything to be just 
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All of life needs to be about 
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So you love the Old Testament 
because it is filled with all 

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kinds of rules. 
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you see rule after rule of what 
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to honor God with your life. 
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carry that thought with you, 
that if everyone just obeyed all

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the rules, life would be so much
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We look at how to enforce the 
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You can quote all kinds of 
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and say God commanded this. 
The the Jews of Jesus day would 

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have understood the Old 
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different laws or rules for them
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Now, if you're a parent, you 
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children break the rules that 
you have at home or have at some

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point broken those rules. 
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Rules are made what to be 
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Why do we all inherently know 
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policies at work? 
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Because at some point in time 
somebody did something really 

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dumb, and so somebody said we 
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nobody does this again. 
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Somebody goes and breaks that 
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somebody else did something 
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It's why we have policies. 
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like, if you think everything's 
going to be better if everyone 

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will just keep the rules, you're
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Romans chapter 5 tells us that 
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came along to multiply the 
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If the law of the Old Testament 
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people to be better, that it's 
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really going on inside our 
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That what the law does is it 
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and every other human being are 
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If we only focus on the commands
of the Old Testament without 

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interpreting them through the 
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Here's what you end up doing. 
You end up piling more and more 

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and more guilt on yourself and 
other people with no real way 

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out. 
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transformation first. 
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transformation, that leads to 
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Yeah, of course Jesus had rules.
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Old Testament through Jesus, we 
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timeless and which are for a 
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particular time and place. 
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interpreting the Old Testament 
through the person of Jesus 

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makes a difference when it comes
to our thoughts and our desire 

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to have God honoring cities and 
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Now please listen carefully to 
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some of you are going to Take Me
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Wanting a community and country 
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God is good. 
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seek the welfare of the place we
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world in which we live. 
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only quoting Old Testament 
passages about how a country 

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should be run without 
interpreting those passages 

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through the lens of how Jesus 
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difficult political environment.
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Christians who have made their 
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that they live in over their 
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God. 
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people are using Bible language 
to mask what is really a desire 

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for power and our own agenda, 
and we miss being people who 

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genuinely love our neighbors. 
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He said Christian nationalism is
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Kingdom without a cross. 
It pursues victory without 

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mercy. 
It acclaims God's love of power 

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rather than the power of God's 
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You see, the lens that you use 
to interpret the Old Testament 

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is critical because it's not 
only going to shape your life, 

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it's going to shape the lives of
the people around you and how 

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you relate to them as well. 
Always make sure your 

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interpretation is filtered 
through the person of Jesus. 

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Third mistake that we make not 
believing the Old Testament is 

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valuable or true. 
In verse 47, Jesus says this. 

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If you don't believe what Moses 
wrote, you're not going to 

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believe my words there. 
There are a lot of people who 

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go, well, if we just interpret 
it through Jesus, then why do we

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even need the Old Testament? 
Let's just start with Jesus and 

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go on from there. 
The Old Testament is filled with

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all kinds of stuff I don't like,
I don't understand, I don't even

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know if I believe to be true. 
Like, it's got wild stories 

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about a global flood and a guy 
who lands in the belly of a big 

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fish. 
It's got pages and pages and 

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pages and pages and pages of 
genealogies. 

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What's up with that? 
It's got violence. 

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Tons of violence, some of it 
even commanded by God. 

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It's got weird rules and laws 
like in Leviticus Chapter 11. 

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Don't eat bats. 
Who needs to be told don't eat 

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bats. 
Don't eat bacon. 

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Come on now. 
And then it's got like poetry, I

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hated poetry when I was in 
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psalms of poetry. 
Who can possibly understand any 

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of the poetry? 
What's the point? 

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And so many people have that 
kind of attitude when it comes 

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to approaching the Old 
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But Jesus wants us to see that 
the Old Testament has incredible

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value all on its own. 
Jesus thought so highly of the 

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Old Testament that he frequently
quotes it. 

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In fact, Jesus quotes from 19 
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When the apostles preach sermons
in the New Testament, they are 

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quoting again and again from the
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What one person I read this week
actually went into a sermon that

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Stephen preached in the book of 
Acts and counted. 

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He quoted the Old Testament 50 
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The New Testament is great. 
It's got passages that say, hey,

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if any of you lacks wisdom, and 
who doesn't lack wisdom right 

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now, right? 
Different things going on. 

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It says, if any of you lacks 
wisdom, let them ask of God and 

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God will give it to you 
generously. 

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That's a great promise for us to
lean into. 

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The Old Testament says we've 
already got much of God's wisdom

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written down for us in books in 
the Old Testament. 

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Sometimes we ask God to give us 
wisdom. 

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And God's like, I've already 
given you wisdom, just read 

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Proverbs. 
The Old Testament is incredibly 

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important to unfolding God's 
grand story. 

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The brokenness of the world 
makes so much sense when you 

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understand the Old Testament. 
The Old Testament is filled with

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real people like you and me, who
in a real moment in time we're 

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struggling with real life and 
trying to understand what does 

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it mean and look like to follow 
and trust and have faith in God.

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You learned so many things about
the character of God from the 

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Old Testament. 
You learn about God's deep love 

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for people. 
You learn how patient God is. 

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00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,080
It's the Old Testament that 
teaches us that God is merciful,

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00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,000
that that he is slow to get 
angry, that he's abounding in 

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00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,360
steadfast love and faithfulness.
The Old Testament teaches us 

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things about the the character, 
the attributes of God, the 

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majesty of who God is. 
It tells us that God is eternal.

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00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,680
He's always been and always will
be, tells us that he's the 

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00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,840
Creator and He's holy. 
He's unlike anyone else. 

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00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,240
In the Old Testament, we learn 
how to lament the grief that we 

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00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,680
carry in life and how to 
maintain hope while we're 

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00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,560
waiting on God to fulfill His 
promises. 

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00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,480
The Old Testament also shows us 
just how much God hates sin. 

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You see how offensive sin really
is to God. 

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When you study the Old 
Testament, you see how much He 

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00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,840
hates it. 
He hates what sin does to people

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00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,080
made in His image. 
He hates what sin does to His 

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00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,200
creation, all the things that He
called very good. 

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00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,880
He hates the damage that sin 
does. 

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00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,160
And you also see the extent to 
which God is willing to go for 

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justice and freedom to happen. 
When you read Old Testament 

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books and you put them in the 
context they were written in, 

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when you understand the 
difference between wisdom books 

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00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,240
and poetic and prophetic and 
historical books, you see this 

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00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,800
incredible picture of God 
unfolding human history. 

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00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:39,240
And as the New Testament teaches
us, all Scripture, all Scripture

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is inspired by God, and it's 
profitable for teaching and 

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00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,480
rebuking and correcting and 
training in righteousness, even 

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00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:56,920
a genealogy. 
All Scripture, the Old Testament

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00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,480
is like a treasure map. 
Now, not all of us are old 

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00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:06,520
enough to remember using printed
copies of maps, but we all 

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00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,200
understand how important it is 
to read a map properly. 

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00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,960
I I've had all kinds of strange 
adventures with maps. 

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00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,560
Shannon and I had our first date
34 years ago this week and I 

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00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,480
didn't have Google Maps back in 
the day. 

487
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:26,120
All I had was a paper map in 
front of me and use this paper 

488
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,240
map to try and navigate my way 
through the thriving metropolis 

489
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:34,320
of Paris ON. 
And as I use this paper map to 

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00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,120
get into Paris ON, I ended up 
still getting lost and miss 

491
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,240
reading the map and being half 
an hour late for our first date 

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00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,080
and she's still with me. 
It's a miracle. 

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00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,840
Reading a map properly is the 
difference between getting to 

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00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,520
the right destination or getting
lost. 

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00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,760
Reading a treasure map properly 
is the difference between 

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00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,480
finding the treasure or missing 
out on it. 

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00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,560
If you've ever watched any 
movies, you know that reading a 

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00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,240
treasure map properly can be the
difference between life and 

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00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,800
death. 
And the single most important 

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00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,840
message of the Old Testament is 
this. 

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00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,960
Jesus is the treasure the Old 
Testament is designed to help 

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00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:28,000
you find. 
See, the one thing that is part 

503
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:35,160
of the human condition, both 
then and now, is the constant 

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00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:41,480
desire and need to find life. 
We all go looking for a purpose.

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00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,600
We all go look looking for 
meaning. 

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00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,000
We all go looking for peace and 
joy. 

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00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,200
It's been the story of humanity 
since humanity had a story. 

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00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,800
We go searching for it 
everywhere. 

509
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,720
We go searching for it in money 
and in relationships and in 

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00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:08,520
power. 
We go looking for it in sex and 

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00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,240
whatever we put our identity in.
We go looking for it in our 

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00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,160
careers. 
We look to our goals and our 

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00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,920
dreams to give us that sense of 
life. 

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00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,880
But if there is one thing that 
we can observe about the human 

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00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,440
reality is this. 
Humans are never satisfied. 

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00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,400
We're never satisfied. 
There's always this sense in us 

517
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,240
that I still need to find life. 
No matter how hard we try, it 

518
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,720
always feels slightly out of 
reach. 

519
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,440
And so we go looking to religion
to give us answers. 

520
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,640
We study religious texts like 
the Bible. 

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00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,400
Over 80% of the world's 
population identifies with a 

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00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,720
religious group. 
Why? 

523
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,040
Because there's something about 
religion that draws our 

524
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:00,200
attention that says, hey, I can 
find peace and hope in religion,

525
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,720
even. 
But Jesus wants you and I to 

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00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:10,960
know that hope and life is not 
found in your ability to be good

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00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,239
or to have more knowledge of 
religious scriptures or even 

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00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,840
doing more religious activity. 
Like if I could simplify the 

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00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,760
entire Christian message for you
into one sentence, it would be 

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00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,920
this. 
It's all about Jesus. 

531
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,520
It's all about Jesus. 
I know that in this room and 

532
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,480
watching online, there are some 
people who you've got no 

533
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,400
personal faith in Jesus. 
You're here, you're exploring, 

534
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,600
you're asking questions. 
But what the Bible constantly 

535
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,360
points us to, and what the Old 
Testament even points us to, is 

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00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,840
that as much as humans may try 
to be good, we will always 

537
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,600
consistently fail in measuring 
up to God's standards. 

538
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,040
The Old Testament also promises 
that God would one day send 

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00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,800
someone to rescue us from the 
penalty of our sins. 

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00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,480
But God doesn't just send 
anyone, He sends his only 

541
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,640
begotten Son, Jesus. 
If you want to find true life, 

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00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,880
Jesus says, put your faith in 
me. 

543
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,040
If you want to be made right 
with God, put your trust in 

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00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,520
Jesus. 
If you want to become the person

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00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,920
you are always created and 
designed to be, trust Jesus. 

546
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,760
Jesus says I've come to give you
life and life more abundantly, 

547
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,480
not not by us working harder to 
be better people, but by us 

548
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,720
placing and our our trust in our
lives in his hands. 

549
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,000
Jesus is the way, he is the 
truth. 

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00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,600
He is the life. 
No one gets to the Father except

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00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,400
through him. 
And for those of us who are 

552
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:02,200
already believers in Jesus, you 
always hear us talking about the

553
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,920
importance of doing things like 
reading your Bible. 

554
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,880
And it is important for you to 
read your Bible. 

555
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,720
But I want you to hear this. 
The treasure of the Christian 

556
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:14,960
life is not having more 
information about the Bible. 

557
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Read your Bible because it 
brings you to the real treasure,

558
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,760
Jesus. 
Read your Bible because it's 

559
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,600
going to help you know Jesus 
more. 

560
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,160
Read your Bible because it's 
going to help you love Jesus 

561
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,360
more. 
Read your Bible because it's 

562
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,640
going to help you see Jesus. 
Think like Jesus, love Jesus, 

563
00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:38,240
and know how great His love is 
for you. 

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00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:43,200
Jesus is our King and our 
Savior. 

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00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,200
He is our Lord, He's our friend,
He's our brother, He's our 

566
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,640
teacher. 
We are here because of Jesus 

567
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,520
like none of this happens apart 
from Jesus. 

568
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,280
Most of us would never choose to
hang out with each other, never 

569
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,720
mind hang out with each other 
first thing on a Sunday morning.

570
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,880
But why do we do it? 
Because of Jesus. 

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00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,800
He's the reason all of this 
exists. 

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00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,560
He's who we serve, He's who we 
worship, He's who we love, He's 

573
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,800
who we celebrate. 
It's all about Jesus. 

574
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:30,840
We pray. 
Father, thank you for how great 

575
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:39,880
Your love is for us. 
Thank you for sending your son 

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00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,440
for us. 
Thank you that all of Scripture 

577
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:57,240
points us to Jesus that I pray 
that you would help us to have a

578
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:02,160
new level of appreciation for 
how you've intricately woven the

579
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:08,800
fullness of the Bible, both the 
New Testament and the Old 

580
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Testament to draw our attention 
to lift high Jesus. 

581
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,640
God, I pray that even this week 
it would change the way that 

582
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,120
some of us are reading our 
Bibles, the way we're 

583
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,040
interpreting our Bibles and 
maybe God, some of us have 

584
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,640
walked away from even paying any
attention to the Old Testament. 

585
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:35,240
I pray it would give us a new 
passion and vision to read and 

586
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:40,600
study and understand the grand 
story that you give to us. 

587
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,440
God, we are so grateful for how 
you've given us sign after sign 

588
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,640
after sign to say that Jesus is 
the one worth treasuring. 

589
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,520
Jesus is the one worth placing 
our faith in, our hope, and our 

590
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,800
trust in. 
I pray that you would help us to

591
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,600
do that. 
Above all else, help us to find 

592
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:10,120
life and the only one who can 
give us life, King Jesus and his

593
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,160
name, I pray. 
Amen. 

594
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,200
Amen. 
Would you stand together as we 

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00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,600
close our service in Psalm?
