1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Grab your pre workout and turn up that volume. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,040 It is time for a new episode of the Power Lifters Den with your 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,400 host Cam Smith. So Power Lifters Den family want 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,320 to wrap the podcast and look good while doing it? 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,520 Check out my official merch store at PL. den dot company dot 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,880 site. We've got Tees, hoodies, 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,080 beanies, hats and more and gear that'll keep you motivated in 8 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:24,520 and out of the gym. Every purchase helps support me 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,040 and the podcast and keeps the den growing strong. 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,520 So whether you're hitting a heavy squat session or just 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,320 lounging in style, we've got you covered. 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,480 Head to PL. den dot company dot site and grab your merch today. 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,360 Hello everybody, Welcome back to another episode of the pile 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,680 lifters Den. I'm your host, Cam Smith, and 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,480 today I want to bring on a legend in the bench press. 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,040 Tiny why don't you introduce yourself? 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,600 I am tiny meeker. You want more than that? 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:52,480 Yes, Sir. Tell tell us a little bit about 19 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:57,320 yourself. 26 time bench press world champion, four time all 20 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,040 time world record holder, first man in history to bench press 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:05,080 8900 and a single ply first man do over 1000 tested and that's 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,280 8-9 and 1000 and 1st man ever to bench press 1100 lbs. 23 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:11,280 Did that in 2000. I'm alive. 24 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,080 Probably 12 or 13 and then had three car wrecks and 17. 25 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,720 Came back at 50 years old and broke it again to 11:25. 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,360 Yeah. So I think to get started, 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,040 obviously you're very well known for the bench press. 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,400 And to this day, besides Jimmy hitting over 11 in the single 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,480 ply, you're the only one to have done 1100 plus and multiply. 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,600 So before we kind of dive into that journey of getting up to 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,120 that point, maybe tell us about what first got you on to into 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,160 bench and kind of into competing? 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,720 I've always done bench press. I mean, I've been working out 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,160 since I was in elementary school, but I started competing 35 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,000 first in high school my sophomore year. 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,880 We basically had a choice of either do track or do 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,160 powerlifting and and incur too much of A track. 38 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,840 So when the powerlifting and actually end up loving a lot 39 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,280 more just because of the fact that it didn't matter what you 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,240 look like either you're stronger, you're not strong and 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,440 went by according to to weight classes and stuff. 42 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,160 As for the bench press, I've always had a really good bench. 43 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,960 I've always had really good strong legs and stuff. 44 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,400 But after I had my first kind of round of car wrecks years ago 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,560 and I had to tore my left I toward the right shoulder in 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,600 high school, I always had some kind of flexibility issues with 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,440 my shoulders and stuff. So as time went on, I couldn't 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,160 get under a bar to squat if I wanted to. 49 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,640 You know, if you start doing safety squat bars, maybe that'd 50 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:29,720 be a different story. So actually when I did my first 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,240 the the 1077 actually did look for the day too and did a, a raw 52 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,600 611 if I'm correct on the same day. 53 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,120 I've been 1077. But no bench has just always 54 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,240 been my thing. You know, after high school, I 55 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,320 kind of went into nightclubs. I bounced a bodyguard for 13 56 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,680 years and one of those years a guy ran into me at the gym, saw 57 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,880 me benching and asked me if I if I ever powerlifted and I kind of 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,080 joked. I was like, what's that? 59 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,520 You know, And and then took me to my first contest in, in the 60 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,280 state championship of Texas. I took second. 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,280 Then I went to the the state full meet, took second. 62 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,520 And after that it bam. It was first, first, first, 63 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,480 first, first. And probably one of the most 64 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,480 blessing names I can say in my lifting is if I'm correct, every 65 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,280 single time I've ever made a lift, actually made it to the 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,960 podium. That's awesome. 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,160 Yeah. And as far as kind of getting 68 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,080 into the shirt for the first time, like tell us about maybe 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,400 that first experience for you, because obviously I know that 70 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,760 being in the shirt is something that comes with time. 71 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,520 It takes a lot to master. And I would make the argument 72 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,240 that being a Poly benching is the hardest part of 73 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,320 powerlifting. Well, yeah, I remember I I 74 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,800 started when the first original shirts were around. 75 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,320 So we're the ones that were in the shirts that were sliced in 76 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,240 your armpits like a razor blade. So, you know, learning that at 77 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,240 first, as funny as this may sound, my bench actually went 78 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,360 down. I was benching 622, I mean, six, 79 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,920 six O 6 raw when I was when I was 22 years old. 80 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,080 So it was a few years after that when I actually started 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,800 competing again and went into a shirt immediately. 82 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,400 And at first I really didn't like them. 83 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,880 You know, it's like this sucks and I didn't like what I was 84 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,280 benching because I was unhappy. I was only bitching like 500 85 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,280 something and then what I learned it. 86 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,880 Boom, I was in the sixes again. And then I don't think I went 87 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:25,080 into the sevens until we went to denim and you know, but but it's 88 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,960 kind of funny, you know, when when I say I was the first to 89 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,360 8-9 hundred a single ply, some of those old school guys are 90 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,360 going to be kind of pissed. And well, it's a different shirt 91 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,760 and, and it's the same thing now. 92 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,480 I mean, yeah, a lot more 1000 LB benches now the the shirts are 93 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,640 different. There's I'm still not going to 94 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,320 sit there and say the shirt does all the work. 95 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,160 But now you got better benches, you got better bars. 96 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,920 I mean, you know, there's a lot of years where I was bombing 97 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,000 every meet because I couldn't touch and everyone's going, oh, 98 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,160 he has a super tight shirt. When the shirt was tight, I 99 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,680 could touch 600 lbs. The same shirt have benched over 100 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,600 1000. It was the bar was bending like 101 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,520 crazy and and I couldn't touch it was I mean you probably go 102 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:01,920 two more inches down just a touch. 103 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,200 Now we got some amazing bars out there. 104 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,760 I mean text fire bars make an amazing bar FAS making amazing 105 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,160 bars that really don't bend unless you have way over 1200 or 106 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,480 more or something like that on there, you know, So I mean it's 107 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,320 kind of change. As for learning a shirt, for me, 108 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,280 it wasn't too bad because my form of technique has always 109 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:25,960 been really, really good. I, I got blessed around to be 110 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,480 around some really good lifters at a very young age who didn't 111 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,280 flare the elbows, you know, talk to keep your wrist straight, how 112 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:33,920 to plant your feet, all those kind of things. 113 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,960 I learned later on even more how to get a better arch and stuff. 114 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,560 So once it went into the shirts, you know, the first shirts you 115 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,000 actually kind of had to flare. And that's what kind of hurt me. 116 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,280 I don't like flaring. And that same thing kind of 117 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:51,240 first happened when I got into band shirts, but then now you 118 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,640 can actually bring your elbows in. 119 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,120 So when we went to the denim also now I'm kind of getting my 120 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,360 more of a natural movement. And then of course, when the 121 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,760 phenom came out, man, it was like blessing completely for me. 122 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,840 But I think where I came even much better lifters when we went 123 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:10,840 to super lifting. And this is one thing that's 124 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:13,640 looking great for Jimmy Twos. I've always talked about when I 125 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,440 start doing reps that made me a completely different lifter, 126 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,040 especially when I do contest. Because you want to get it down 127 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,400 faster. You want to waste all the energy 128 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,960 trying to touch so you learn to drop it faster, pop it up 129 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,160 faster. And that's why I joke everyday. 130 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,480 Speed day. Yeah. 131 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,720 And for me, like being in the shirt, like something that I've 132 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,400 been getting really much better at, it's the descent, just 133 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,760 having a good path. And one of the big things for 134 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,040 that would be just being more aggressive with it, not kind of 135 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,160 just letting the weight bring it down. 136 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,560 It's kind of pulling it down. Obviously it's not like straight 137 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,440 up rolling it, but I found that when you're more aggressive with 138 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,120 it, you're getting, obviously you're reducing the time under 139 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,160 tension and that's going to help you with energy wise, but it 140 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,680 kind of helps you find that groove of the shirt a little bit 141 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,480 better than just like letting it float. 142 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,240 Well, there's always been a lesson I've, I've taught about 143 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,280 Ben shirts. If if you can't touch, but you 144 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:06,240 blow it up, you put more weight on the bar. 145 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,360 If you can't touch and you can't pop it up, you need a bigger 146 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,080 shirt. The shirts too aggressive for 147 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,760 you, you can't handle it. So there's there's a lesson 148 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,480 learned. I mean, there's some people out 149 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,400 there don't like using boards. Boards to me is a comfort zone. 150 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,240 It's also a target, but the one thing about the older shirts and 151 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,720 that goes for all the polly's and and not not as much as band 152 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,520 because I don't know anyone who's blown up a band shirt yet. 153 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,200 And if there is, but I haven't heard about it. 154 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,160 But in the old days you really need to learn how to baby a 155 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,800 shirt and what I mean by that. So you might start off with a 156 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,480 four board. Can you go down as slow as you 157 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:41,840 can? Once you touch that board, you 158 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,080 pop it up as fast as you can, redo the set with the same 159 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,080 board, but this time go down smoother. 160 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,720 Pull that board out, redo it again and you keep on redoing 161 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,440 the process until you finally touch. 162 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,800 Once you finally done that, you can kind of get aggressive as 163 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,880 you want with the shirt. But if you rush it and you touch 164 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,320 too fast, that sure will never give you the rebound or reaction 165 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,080 you want to get out of it because the microfibers are so, 166 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:10,440 so, you know, small and, and what's the word I'm looking for? 167 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,320 Just you know, if you break too fast, it'll break and you'll 168 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,880 never though they won't stretch the way they want and give you 169 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,480 the reaction you want. You know, they're they're very 170 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,640 delicate. That's the word I was looking 171 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:21,640 for. It's very delicate. 172 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,080 And if you, if you're too fast with it, you just, it won't 173 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,880 work. As for bands, they're a little 174 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,880 different but but The thing is about the boards is once you 175 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,200 finally touch on your Poly shirts, it's best to work off A2 176 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,320 board or one board because 1 you kind of save that shirt up 177 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,559 because if you constantly go full range, you might stretch 178 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,720 out too much and then you'll never get what you want out of 179 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,840 the cost of it out of the out of the contest. 180 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,640 But you know in the old days when you could always get 2 181 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,000 shirts breaking in both of them. One you train in one you use for 182 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,880 the shows. Now As for the bands, you know, 183 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,080 bands were really difficult for me at first because at first 184 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:05,360 they were telling you the flare of the elbows and here I was 185 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,880 coming off 2 blown shoulders from the car wrecks, you know, 186 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,160 getting a lift off and it feels like you're holding the roll in 187 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,440 the weight raw. I mean it's, it was terrifying 188 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,320 to me. And until you start dropping it, 189 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,280 you didn't feel support. But once I started learning the 190 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,880 shirt more than I learned how to get under the bar, all of a 191 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,360 sudden you feel it, you know, settled on you and you feel 192 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,360 support. You go on your list, you just 193 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,560 had to learn the right sizing and all that kind of stuff. 194 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,840 You know, basically the same thing as the other shirts, but 195 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,040 still a big difference. Yeah. 196 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,240 And I know obviously we got to experience pretty much the full 197 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,040 range of shirts and obviously the the denim era was something 198 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,160 that was an interesting time and top powerlifting because they 199 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,840 were very stiff. And obviously we're more more 200 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,960 known to blow out and catastrophically. 201 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:56,440 I guess my question for you would be kind of that shift from 202 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,040 when it became denim into like that more Poly arrow. 203 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,880 Like what was the, I guess the environment like of like seeing 204 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,360 all these benches go up or like people trying to figure out the 205 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,320 new shit? Well, remember, it went from the 206 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:10,720 the original Polly's to denim first. 207 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,280 Some people might forget that they thought of me going to 208 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,320 rage, rage exes and all that. And also, you know, but it 209 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,960 didn't. It went to denims and and also 210 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,640 was there was no other shirts back then except for insert 211 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,640 stuff, because insert had a patent. 212 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,320 Well right after the denims when the rage or ejects came out, the 213 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,400 patent ended. Next thing you know Titans 214 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,000 making shirts. I think there was some couple 215 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,000 others and and I still remember also with the denims that went 216 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,560 from just like a kind of record blue Jean denim to a black 217 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:42,080 denim. Then they started grid stitching 218 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,200 it. Then it came a ultimate denim, 219 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,240 which was this maroon material that was super duper strong and 220 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,400 and almost, almost no one can touch it. 221 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,840 You know, it was very difficult. But again, we're going back to 222 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,680 the bar bend and stuff too. And then all of a sudden the 223 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:58,480 rage comes out and and I remember when I first got the 224 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,040 shirt and I took it out of the bag, I was like, what is this 225 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,600 going to do? You know, I'm thinking we're 226 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,440 going backwards now. And then I put it on and I was 227 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,880 like, holy cow, you know, but but you had to break it in 228 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,360 slowly or they would blow and and a lot of us, you know, we 229 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,160 were getting the shirts quick before a show. 230 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,480 And so you're kind of rushing it. 231 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,160 Then you get a shirt, you know, the Meads and be honest, I 232 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,160 thought the rage the original polys on that were blowing out a 233 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,320 lot more than the denim were, you know, and, and then all of a 234 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,920 sudden, I guess people start to learn how to break them in and 235 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,680 wet them down so they can stretch better. 236 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:35,480 All all these different other things. 237 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,240 And then also would it depend on it really depends on how what a 238 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,200 person looks like. And what I mean by that is if 239 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,680 you're a real hard body person, you know, just because you, you 240 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:49,360 may have a a stomach, but your upper body's pretty solid. 241 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,520 There's not much giving those shirts. 242 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,400 So you put on a super tight shirt, they would blow. 243 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,800 But some of these guys that were, you know, not as I'm not 244 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,640 going to say names, but didn't look as good or looked very 245 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,680 soft. They could put on the most 246 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,800 craziest tight shirt you could ever imagine. 247 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,600 And you you'd watch the guy get, you know, it'd be like the 248 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,080 original shirts that took two or three or four guys to put these 249 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,480 shirts on these guys. And then next, you know, they go 250 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,480 out there and they bench 5 or 600 lbs more than they've ever 251 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,680 taken bench in their lobby. It was crazy, you know, and then 252 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:23,400 now we're, we're in another different shirt, you know, so 253 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:27,520 that's that's all things change. And then also with with the with 254 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,160 the rage or regexes. I did, you know, my first 800 255 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,040 wasn't a rage. My first 900 wasn't a rage X. 256 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,720 And then my 948 on up was double plies and I never tried to 257 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,720 triple ply in those, but only went double s. 258 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,760 And then soon after that was of course, the phenom. 259 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:50,320 You know, another problem for me over the years was, you know, 260 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,800 I've lifted, I think I wrote down that I can remember. 261 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,560 I've lifted almost 20 federations there. 262 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:59,720 There there was, you know, different rules, different bars, 263 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,640 so many different things that but I was going to all these 264 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,200 different feds because back then we we didn't have necessary 265 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,760 social media. We had what do we have, you 266 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,280 know, the go heavy, the forms. Powerlifting watching that shit. 267 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,800 Oh man, the forms to me was fire. 268 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,880 It was, it was, it was I'm going to read this stuff to get myself 269 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,200 mad to go out there and want to kill. 270 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:23,560 And, and my feelings were I'm going to go to everyone's 271 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:25,800 federation because people didn't believe I was drug free. 272 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,640 So I'm going to go take everyone's freaking drug test. 273 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,880 I'm going to break all your stupid records and then I'm 274 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,640 going to leave, you know, then I'm going to go to another one 275 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,960 and do it again and again. And I think there's only three 276 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,320 federations that never made a lift in. 277 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:43,880 That was probably USPA whatever right sex federation was or XPC. 278 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,400 I didn't make one XPC that that was the 1200 twelve 150 LB miss 279 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,440 load if Arnold classic. And then there was maybe one 280 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,240 other one. But me and you know, I lived in 281 00:13:54,240 --> 00:14:00,000 USAPL wobble for many years. NASA did all these other tests 282 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,360 AMPC where you had to take a 5 year polygraph. 283 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,560 Oh wow, it was it was it was crazy stuff you had to do. 284 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,120 And then of course, the equipment was always different 285 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:12,000 and that was the other bigger problem was I was always 286 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,040 changing the shirts and until I said, you know, screw this. 287 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,920 I really I'm going to focus on one shirt and I'm going to go 288 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,440 out for the record. And that's when I finally went 289 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,120 to the Super duper and when I flared, because when I first 290 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,880 found those, the Phenom, I was actually wearing more what was 291 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,920 legal for Wabble, which was called a Phenom 2, which was a 292 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,080 close back and stuff. And. 293 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:40,160 And then John started putting on these, what was it called the 294 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,320 where we had to do the reps show. 295 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,280 Well, once we did that, that's why I went to super and that's 296 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,960 when I really started learning the shirt and how to touch. 297 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,880 That's what I was talking about earlier, super lifting. 298 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,880 We did the Olympia and all that stuff. 299 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,400 And then after that I finally went to a triple ply and that's 300 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,600 I went for kills. Yeah, so for the the the Phenom 301 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,680 and the Super duper Phenom, what was the kind of biggest 302 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,480 difference between those shirts between which 2 the the original 303 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,960 Phenom and SDP? Well, the original Phenom is 304 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,880 Night Day. Original Phenom to me is more 305 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,840 like your original blast shirts and stuff. 306 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,360 They kind of, they kind of fit the same. 307 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,680 There's no, there's no, I mean complete difference of what the 308 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,720 original is and what the Super is. 309 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,480 The the cuts different, the the necklines different, just 310 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,200 completely different night and day. 311 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,400 Plus you have a stretchy back or you have an open back. 312 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,080 So even the phenom two it was you had to wear a partial 313 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,600 clothes back for wobble. So your top half would be 314 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,080 covered. Then the bottom half you should 315 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,520 trap it down and stuff. But they were still kind of cut 316 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,320 like a super, just not as aggressive. 317 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,480 The collar couldn't be as aggressive either. 318 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,200 But then when you went to the Super, of course now you can 319 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,920 kind of bring the collar down more. 320 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,280 All those things earning dramatically changed. 321 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,400 Yeah. So in the SCPI guess kind of 322 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,600 when or maybe when you were going to get for your first 1100 323 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,080 or maybe just something you've figured out through the years, 324 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,640 like kind of walk us through how you'd set your shirt during a 325 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,600 meet. You know, funny part about how 326 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:21,040 my shirt is I knew when I put it on how much give I could feel 327 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,320 without holding anything where I needed the neckline to be. 328 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,440 So, you know, and that's it. It's an interesting question. 329 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,440 You know, I think what really changed things for me was also 330 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,480 learn how to change my warmups. Warm up was a difference. 331 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,320 You know, if you go back in the old days when me Caneli Ryan, 332 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,120 right, check all everyone was lifting back in those days. 333 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,160 Most time you go in the warm up room. 334 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,760 I can't speak the same for Gene because the only time I ever saw 335 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,400 Gina the Mead, he actually decided not to live because he 336 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,680 didn't like the equipment. And that was in Florida, 337 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Orlando, which I think he was being pretty smart, to be 338 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,400 honest. But everyone would warm up to 339 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,200 almost 600 lbs raw, go put a shirt on and we might be lucky 340 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,800 to bitch 700 lbs, you know. And then when I started going to 341 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,720 the Arnolds and stuff, I was watching Andy, Andy from, you 342 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,599 know, from the England doing his dead lifts and other lifters, 343 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,480 Gary Frank doing a full meet. But I was watching the warm up 344 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,440 for the other lifts, not the bench, just how they would do 345 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,319 squats for their dealer, whatever. 346 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,760 You know, Gary Frank was all around lifter and and I compete 347 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,680 against Gary once at the biggest mention the river and that was 348 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,840 the first time that someone that's over 7 there. 349 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,600 But we're sitting there warming up and Gary's not doing 350 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,600 anything. I mean, we're lists are getting 351 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,320 higher. This is the denim base and all 352 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,680 of a sudden they put I think 585 on the bar and then Gary stands 353 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,440 up and I'm thinking, oh hell no. And he he like does his little 354 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,960 jump skip thing and goes over to the bench and he benched 585 355 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,800 were all and it was ugly, but he did it. 356 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,680 That was his first warm up and I'm like what the freak? 357 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,960 Then he puts a shirt on. He goes 675 and again, it was 358 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,080 kind of ugly. So we're sitting back there. 359 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,400 Everyone goes outside because the the meets outdoors on the 360 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,880 stage. It's just me and Gary and Gary's 361 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,120 like, you know, I never feel good these bitch only meets. 362 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,480 And I have like the double an Angel pop up. 363 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,920 Have the double I have the Angel pop up goes maybe you should 364 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,240 tell me more about more and the double S over here going no, 365 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,840 don't say shit, Let them bomb. Yeah, I love Gary. 366 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,720 Nothing is Gary but Gary bomb. Do you know? 367 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,400 And then I went on and got my first 700 there at that show, 368 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,360 not my first 7 and over, but for the for the baddest, biggest 369 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,840 bench of the river. And then the next year I did 8 370 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,720 and a 900 and 1000 and so on. But but anyway, when I watched 371 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,600 him do his full meets and he was squatting, same thing. 372 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,240 It was huge warm up and they were just such big jumps. 373 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,560 And then I watched, you know, Andy from England do his 374 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,400 deadlifts. It was all these singles, very 375 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:01,400 fast, very explosive. And I started thinking, I think 376 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,760 I'm going to change my warm up on bench. 377 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,440 So I always start off at 1:35 no matter what my bench is. 378 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,680 Now I actually start up a little bit lighter to warm my shoulders 379 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,760 up more. And I got 135 for two sets of, 380 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,120 you know, 810, whatever, jump to 225, I'll do 6:00 or 8:00. 381 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,880 Then I jump to 315. I'll do a single double. 382 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,800 And then I would jump to 900 lbs. 383 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,440 And the first time I did it, everybody's like, you're doing 384 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,080 what, 900? You're jumping to 900 lbs. 385 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,720 Yeah, jump 900. And the first time I did my 386 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,840 training, even some of my team members, like, I think this 387 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,280 didn't ever change anything. Yeah, but I know what I'm doing. 388 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:42,360 So I jumped to 9 and then I jumped straight to 1000 and you 389 00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:45,120 know actually my first level O2, it actually shows the entire 390 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,080 warm up of that day. It was kilos. 391 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,680 So it may have been 937 then it may have been either 1003 or 392 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,160 something that might open up with 810 eighty for the record 393 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,000 at the time. And then I missed 11 O2. 394 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:00,720 Then I came back and hit eleven O 2. 395 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Then I missed 11:35. But you get what I learned is. 396 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,320 You don't need to do a whole bunch of heavyweight to get 397 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,880 warm. You have to warm up movement And 398 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,800 if you're wasting your time and your energy doing all these 399 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,560 lifts, that's why what Gary was talking about when he does the 400 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,640 full meats, even with these high school kids, you're already warm 401 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,840 after you squat. You don't need to do a bunch of 402 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,680 warming up on the bench press. I mean, some of them don't even 403 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,400 really warm up on men. So they put their shirt on and 404 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,000 go to work. But I, my kids don't want to be 405 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,760 just a little bit, but not much. So even if you can do what you 406 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,200 what you normally do, take just take out one like so like I just 407 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,400 said, I do 2 sets 135 two sets 285. 408 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,440 I'd only do one set of each one. Put shirt on, go do your last 409 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,760 warm up. Go do your open. 410 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:54,200 So that that's what I've learned and and it dramatically change 411 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,400 everything for me. Yeah. 412 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,680 So for me, yeah. So for me, I usually go, I'll 413 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,720 take the bar, I'll take the plates for some reps and I'll go 414 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,880 2 plates, usually a few few reps And then I'll usually either 415 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,080 take a single at three plates or just 285 or whatever, depends 416 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,560 how I'm feeling that day. And then I usually go, I throw 417 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,840 the shirt on, don't do anything to it, and I'll usually take 418 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,160 like 3 1/4. So I mean my best in the gym 419 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,040 right now is five. So I guess for me, do you think 420 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,160 I. Right. 421 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So so if you if your first set 422 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,040 with a shirt is how much? 375. 423 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,480 Man, I, I would even, I would even I had to go do 225 and go 424 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,560 put the shirt on and go do your go do that. 425 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,440 That's that's how I would change things because like, you know, I 426 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,720 got a lot of kids training in my gym, high schoolers and I'll 427 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,680 watch them, They'll come in and first thing they do, they'll put 428 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,520 135 lbs on the bar and I'll walk up and say, hey, how much do you 429 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,920 Max out? And they they might some say 430 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,320 185, some say 200 something. I said, wow. 431 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,240 I go, you know what's funny? They go, what's that? 432 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,000 I go, I've mentioned almost 1200 and that's my first warm up. 433 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:02,360 Yeah, I said you also start with the bar and, and 1:35. 434 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:05,320 But the whole thing is now that was good what you said for the 435 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,400 first part, but you're still going too high in my opinion. 436 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,800 Raw, you could actually stop at 2:25 for a double single, put 437 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,560 that shirt on. So up to maybe what are you 438 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,240 trying to get? You trying to get 5 right? 439 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Yeah, I'm trying to hit mid fives upcoming meet. 440 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,960 So you can put the shirt on, go do a three board to A2 board 441 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,560 with 365, then go to A2 board up to 455. 442 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,240 Then you open up £500. Yes, I mean, yeah. 443 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,920 And I guess another struggle that I have, I'm I'm blessed and 444 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,720 cursed with the long arm syndrome. 445 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:43,720 So I guess, well, that was going to be my next question is 446 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,320 someone who does have a very long like range of motion, what 447 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,240 are some of the things that can be done to kind of make their 448 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,480 bench not suck? Well, I work with a lot of, I 449 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,520 work with some guys going into Columbine, their offensive 450 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,120 lineman. It can be 6 foot 8 and all that. 451 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,680 The, the biggest thing is you, you learn how to pinch your 452 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,280 shoulder blades as much as possible where you're sitting 453 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,320 the bench down on the lats and you're bitching off your lats 454 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:08,680 and your triceps, not your pecs and shoulders. 455 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,720 Because we're doing your pecs and shoulders. 456 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,600 Your range is going to be a lot further up. 457 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,680 And if you, you know, you're here and then, and then if you 458 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,920 drop a pinch that, that, that, that can shorten it the distance 459 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,800 4 plus inches just on that. But also what you got to be 460 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,960 careful of is, is the lift off. Because if your lift off person 461 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,160 pulls you up high and he takes you out of the groove, 462 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,200 especially when you got a shirt on and the weight, you'll never 463 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,920 be able to get back in that position again because you were, 464 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,920 you were too high. So I hate kind of bringing up, 465 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,840 but it's, it's, it's, it's the same thing for bench. 466 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,800 You know, I don't know if you saw the video, the horrible 467 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,440 video of the old lady that got killed squatting recently. 468 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,240 The biggest? Mistake is the rack height was 469 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,360 too high. So when she got out of the rack, 470 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:57,400 she was stumbling already and everyone could blame the 471 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,280 spotters. All that. 472 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,440 Dude, bad things happened in gyms. 473 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,840 Bad things happened in meets fast. 474 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,760 You're messed with heavyweight. I mean, I was almost 600 lbs for 475 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,960 that girl, which is crazy. Yeah, but if she would have had 476 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,160 the rack height low. So what I hate was a lot of 477 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,960 young lifters, they want to come out of the rack and go right? 478 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,280 Just start stepping back. Well, if the rack height is low, 479 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,280 he could stand up, hold it for a second, let your body absorb it, 480 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,200 step back, step, step, take your breath, go on your lift. 481 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,880 Well, the same things for the bench. 482 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,680 The rack height's too high. You're never going to be able to 483 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,800 come out and bring it down unless you have a really, 484 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,840 really, really good three man lift off. 485 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,800 You know, so just mad you're trying to do over 1000 lbs. 486 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,400 I think it's going to be a lot more difficult, but have the 487 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,920 rack height where it it's just going to kind of clear the, the, 488 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,560 you know, the hooks a little bit, not by far, but just a 489 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,480 little bit. So when he comes out, it's it's 490 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,080 already on your lats. You sit there, hold it for a 491 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,920 second, take your breath, boom, going to your lift that that 492 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,760 will dramatically change everything. 493 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,960 But if you get the lift off and you fill in on the shoulders, 494 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,000 you need to go throw it back in the rack to regroup. 495 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,960 Yeah, and as. Far as the actual training side 496 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,760 of being in the shirt, maybe over the years, what was kind of 497 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,160 the frequency you'd be in the shirt as well as some of the 498 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,440 maybe variations and movements that you kind of would circle 499 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,200 back to that you found you got the most out of? 500 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Well, how I train and, and how I train me and my people and all 501 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,920 that. I let the body, my body tell me 502 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,440 what what I'm going to do. I have a plan and same date as 503 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,360 my lifters. If they come in, they don't feel 504 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:28,400 right. They need to let me know. 505 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,320 So I do a lot of overloading and when I don't do overloading, I'm 506 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,040 backing off, working on speed. Speak it also be in a shirt. 507 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,040 Speak it also be raw. It can be with bandage, chains, 508 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,400 whatever you mixed up, whatever you want. 509 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,600 But the one thing I do is I'm constantly letting my body 510 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,080 recover. So I've been preaching forever. 511 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,280 I only bench one day a week. I've been like that forever for 512 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,840 my 38 plus years doing this. I've only bench one day a week. 513 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,480 I do back one day a week. I do legs one day a week. 514 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,720 I can do cardio every single day if I want to. 515 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,000 People go, what about your forearms, all that? 516 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,240 I mean, that's back day, you know, I mean, you just mix it 517 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,560 up. But you get to the point if you 518 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,240 start, if you start over training, you're done. 519 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,240 You know, in the old days when we read power from USA 520 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,240 magazines, you'd read these articles and these guys would 521 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,200 go, oh, I got hurt a couple months for the show. 522 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,800 I couldn't work out. And for whatever reason, I said, 523 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,080 I'm going to go do the meeting anyway. 524 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,920 And then they go to the meeting. They had the best living in 525 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,880 their entire life. What it really was is they 526 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,840 finally let themselves rest. And he'll, you know what I mean? 527 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,120 So it's, it's hard for me to tell you how I how I do things. 528 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:33,360 That's why I don't write stuff down. 529 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,200 People want me to do online training and sometimes some part 530 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,200 of me kind of wants to do it, but most of it's because I'm a 531 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,320 hands on person. I like. 532 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,440 There's so many things I look at when a person benches. 533 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,720 I'm very detailed on technique and form. 534 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,400 You know, I take Jimmy right now. 535 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,040 Jimmy's technique is flawless. Yeah, if, if I got a guy working 536 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,400 on me right now, we can fix my arm issue. 537 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,200 I mean, I did AI did AI, did a trap bar deadlift the other day. 538 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,480 Easy sell, over 600 lbs. Now to watch the video. 539 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,200 My left arm is just completely bent extremely bad and I'm 540 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,120 thinking of flexing my tricep. I can't. 541 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,680 I can barely touch my face on someday or get to my head but I 542 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,240 can't straighten the arm out so we're working on that really 543 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,960 bad. I don't know if it's part from 544 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,400 my tear from tear in the front delt outer delt outer shoulder 545 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,160 from the car wreck but no one be able to figure it out yet. 546 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,040 But I do have 8 hernia disc that could be part of it too. 547 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,240 Oh geez, the. Blaster. 548 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,560 But we did was. Kind of good. 549 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,480 But what I was getting at is I was telling the therapist, I go, 550 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,520 man, we get to the point where I could turn my elbows around and 551 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,480 where you can see my hands completely turned around, like 552 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,440 you want to give me some change or don't fall on my hand. 553 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,680 I said if you're able to. Do that I'll be Superman again. 554 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,520 But if if we can't fix it, I'm done. 555 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,680 And and for Jimmy, people sit there and go. 556 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,360 He has short arms. He's short. 557 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:57,000 Well, if that was true, I don't know what we're supposed to call 558 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,440 little people these days, but they would be the strongest 559 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,680 people in the world. You know what I mean? 560 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,440 It's it's it's about how his lines are you look at cranes, 561 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,120 how they pick things up. It's all about the lines. 562 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,480 His technique is flawless. You know, that's why he's able 563 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,800 to do so many reps with a certain weight. 564 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,360 It's, it's just, it is, it's one, it's down, it's up. 565 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,200 It's a perfect line. It doesn't, it doesn't break the 566 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,280 lines. And, and that's what people 567 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,800 should really do is focus on your form and technique first. 568 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,920 Make sure you're not turning the wrist back. 569 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,520 Make sure your elbows aren't flaring out, you know, 570 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,200 especially on the raw stuff. But you want to see a straight 571 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,720 line. So your wrist and the bar is a 572 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,320 straight line going up and down. You don't want this. 573 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,120 You don't want this and you don't want it going too far in 574 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,640 either. You know, you fixed all that. 575 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,600 That's when you start seeing your numbers junk. 576 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,840 Yeah. And for me it like. 577 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,240 What the the bar path down, like I was saying earlier, that's 578 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,280 something that I've it's starting like you watch some 579 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,520 video like, Oh, that's great. But when I go to return it I I 580 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,600 don't know if I'm still like jamming it out like a raw bench, 581 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,040 but I just can't seem to find that same path that I take it 582 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,160 down in. Is you got to give me some 583 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,160 filming and look at your line and and the guy who's spotting 584 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,480 you, they have to be honest too. That's the other big thing I 585 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,000 preach about is you can't just surround yourself with a bunch 586 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,320 of yes people. You got to run your yourself 587 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,840 around people that aren't that aren't going to lie to you. 588 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,160 They got to tell you the truth, whether it's good or bad. 589 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,320 If you're not locking out, they need to tell you're not locking 590 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,200 out. If they're helping, they damn 591 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,480 sure need to tell you they're helping because then you go to 592 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,480 the meeting. You're like, Oh my God, that 593 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,440 still was heavy. It's like maybe I could have 594 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,480 been told you I was pulling the whole time and training, you 595 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,480 know, Oh, that was great head on on Christmas, Christmas Eve of 596 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,080 2023 and the the rag messed me up. 597 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,760 But in my opinion, the treatment later messed me up 10 times 598 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,920 worse. And like I'm huffing right now. 599 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,800 And what that's problem is they injected me with they swore up 600 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:49,960 and down and want to be cortisone. 601 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,640 And I was like, don't give me cortisone. 602 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,960 Yeah, I'm gonna be cortisone. Swore up and down end up being a 603 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,160 cortisone. And ever since then it blew me 604 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,600 up from the three teens to 365. And if my body weight gets 605 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,480 around 3:40, it's like I'm full here, so it's hard to breathe. 606 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,640 But I'm thinking dandelion routine to try to get the fluid 607 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,240 out of me. And the one thing that's really 608 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,240 helped dramatically for me is water fasting. 609 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,160 So. Which I'm probably going to do 610 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,600 again pretty soon, but I'm going to try to get it down under 300 611 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,560 lbs. So I don't feel like this 612 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,840 anymore. Yeah, and. 613 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,520 I was kind of want to dive into that a little bit more. 614 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,280 Obviously, you kind of came back from a injury and stuff and 615 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,080 that's something that's kind of just part of pile of thing 616 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,160 whether you get hurt on the platform or outside the 617 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,200 platform. So maybe tell us about coming 618 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,000 back from that. Well, unfortunately for me. 619 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,120 If all my injuries have been from car wrecks. 620 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,880 I mean I just all injuries suck regardless. 621 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,160 Many years ago I got hit from behind, but in 2017 I got hit 622 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,560 from mine twice and T-bone once. All in three months. 623 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,800 But Jesus, five months, sorry, five months. 624 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,520 But the first one kind of did the most damage for my labrum 625 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,200 had a tear on my, my knee and, and just, you know, really achy 626 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,200 and sore. And it took all the way till 627 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,600 2020 before I was able to start lifting again. 628 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,840 And when I started kind of lifting again, I had Fred, Fred 629 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,720 Fisher from the IPA trying to ask me, you know, what can we do 630 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,680 to get tiny lifting in? I was like, I don't know if 631 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,880 that's going to happen anytime soon. 632 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,040 And he was like, well, if we put a money show together and I was 633 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,240 like, and I started thinking and I knew what I was doing in 634 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,400 training. I just didn't want the people 635 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,440 that really know yet. But then I started, I started 636 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,920 doing really good on my lifting. And at the time I was sponsored 637 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,520 by someone else and we were we were trying out some new shirts 638 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,320 because everyone was in these bands and I was thinking, you 639 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,120 know, may come back. So I I came up with this idea 640 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,600 when things started looking pretty good. 641 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,240 Hey, how about I get all the top guys that ever mentioned 1000 642 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,520 lbs together. And, you know, let's do this. 643 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,000 Let's, let's do the baddest venture on the planet. 644 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,120 That's how I kind of him across. But I was feeling really good, 645 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:14,200 you know, but in the process of trying to get ready for the 646 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,960 meat, every time I was getting shirts from the certain person, 647 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,480 they kept changing and changing and everything I'd say to try to 648 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,800 do that, it came out to be a different type of shirt. 649 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,000 And it got to the point where I just felt like, Hey, are you 650 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:33,120 trying to sabotage me? And, and, and man, when it all 651 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,720 ended, it was like being having the greatest marriage of your 652 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,880 life for 2025 years and all of a sudden you got divorced because 653 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,160 you forgot to take out the garbage. 654 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,920 It was just, I mean, we laughed, but dude, it was I it, it hit me 655 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,280 that hard. And I happen to pick up Rob 656 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,200 Pharrell during this process and we're only months away from the 657 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,520 show. And I asked Rob, I said, hey, 658 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,000 Rob, I know you don't really know me too well, but I really 659 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,480 appreciate you getting all these guys in my meet. 660 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,760 I go, if I give you a booth, would you mind making a shirt 661 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,480 for me? And he kind of giggled. 662 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,240 He goes, well, tiny, I didn't, I didn't start making shirts for 663 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,000 1000 people to wear my shirts. I made it for freaks like you 664 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,320 would do some big ass weight. I'd be honored to make your 665 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,440 shirt. And then from that point on, you 666 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,520 know, was with Rob and and then later on aside with Ken 667 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,720 Anderson, with Anderson powerlifting because they all 668 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,320 work together. And it was been a good family 669 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,760 after that. Only problem then is couple 670 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,560 years after that, boom, another wreck. 671 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,000 Yeah. Yeah, and Rob's awesome because 672 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,240 my friend Jon Rupo's, he's their spot. 673 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,960 He's sponsored by F8 and like we went down there, it's Robin, 674 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,680 Tiff and Denise are great and that's the shirt I use 675 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:44,440 currently. I'm using. 676 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,160 I'm not using a banter. I'm using their their spade 677 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,960 Polly and honestly, I've I've been loving it so far. 678 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,640 They just something about what they can do with gear. 679 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,200 It's just incredible, but not only on the bench shirts, but 680 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,040 even their briefs and everything and actually. 681 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,600 That's the funny part about Rob is even before he is where he is 682 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,440 now, Rob would take everyone's shirts no matter where they come 683 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,640 from and he'd repair them and stuff and didn't care. 684 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,199 He was cool about it. I'm like, man, but the other 685 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,679 person stopped doing repairs. And if and if you know, if you 686 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,199 don't, if you don't know what the heck you're doing. 687 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:17,560 I mean, here was my thing. I go you're doing, you're not 688 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,199 doing repairs, you're not doing alterations. 689 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,719 I mean, believe it or not, for a phenom super duper phenom shirt, 690 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,719 the only alteration I would ever do on any shirt was I would 691 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,120 shorten my sleeves. Other than that, I didn't care. 692 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,280 It was perfect. They wouldn't even do that for 693 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,840 me. And I was like, so if I go to 694 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,040 some whoever to sew the sleeves up and they explode, you think 695 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,960 they're going to go, man, that alteration place really did tiny 696 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,719 wrong? No, they're going to say you did 697 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,360 tiny wrong. You made a crappy shirt. 698 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,400 And I couldn't believe they just, and that's what I'm saying 699 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,360 is just everything changed. And I don't know why it changed, 700 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,920 but I'm very happy now that I've made the change. 701 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,520 You know what I mean? But you know, the greatest thing 702 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,120 for me was to put that shirt on for Rob and break the record 703 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,960 again because one, it was a big thank you to him, and it was a 704 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,360 big something else to someone else. 705 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,400 Yeah, exactly. It was a perfect, perfect, I 706 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,160 don't know the word for it, but as far as kind of over the years 707 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,520 in terms of not just only the competition, obviously the totem 708 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,480 pole keeps moving and moving, but you're 11 O2 is something 709 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,520 that has yet to been chipped. I know Tony Carlino is trying to 710 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,320 look at that, try to see if he can get to that. 711 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,800 But as far as kind of the culture goes, what are some of 712 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,920 the things that you've seen for the positive as well as the 713 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:41,440 negative? Well, you know, I got to, I'm 714 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,520 laughing because at the same time I got to be one of those 715 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,400 guys that, you know, to me it's like I almost feel like my 716 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,680 records always there no matter what. 717 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,000 Because now the bars are changing the yeah, changing. 718 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,480 I mean, I haven't got to feel what one of Rob's Polly shirts 719 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,520 are like. I'd be very interested because 720 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,360 to be honest, I love the feel of the full support from the get go 721 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,840 of the lift off and everything. Things are dramatically 722 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,200 different. And he's to say if I get 723 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,880 healthy, you never know that that might be something I would 724 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,880 love to do. But man, at the other time, I 725 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,360 got to be a fan, you know, it's fun to watch. 726 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:21,720 I love the heart of Tony. You know, if anyone's going to 727 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:24,640 break it, I would love it to be either him or Jimmy anyway, you 728 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,160 know, both good guys and and, and it's fun. 729 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:30,320 I, I love seeing Mindy every once a while, you know, go do 730 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,560 what he does in training because man, people don't understand 731 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,360 something, man, you know, and, and what I'm going to say is no 732 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,080 disrespect to Scott, you know, you watch some of the training 733 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,600 videos. It may not look like the best 734 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,480 lift in the world, but so freaking what man, It's what we 735 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,040 love to do. And, and man, I don't think 736 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,160 anyone understands when you when you finally reach that level and 737 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,120 you reach what you finally want to reach. 738 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,880 But the but the other part is, is that's the thing we love to 739 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,640 do is just to feel that way. So when I've gone through 740 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,120 injuries and shit, you know, Scott's had his car wrecks too, 741 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,400 where he lost, he had an ankle. I think his ankle was removed 742 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,560 and all these other stuff. I mean, Scott's been through 743 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,000 hell and some of his wrecks and I think he had another one not 744 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,200 too long after the baddest venture. 745 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,920 I think he had another one too. I could be wrong on that, but 746 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,440 what people are seeing is when we finally got back to where you 747 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,520 can put 1000 lbs on the bar and you put in your hands and it 748 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,880 goes down and no matter how it goes up, man, it's like it's 749 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,000 like the greatest feeling you ever had Again. 750 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,200 It's like y'all understand when when, when you're having a hard 751 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,000 time. I mean, I preach this on a lot 752 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,680 of my stuff. You know, as a personal trainer, 753 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,080 personal training is the number one thing you'll ever do for 754 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,160 your physical and mental health. So if you're going through a lot 755 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:50,000 of shit you can't work out, it freaking sucks, especially when 756 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,000 that's what you've always done. And then and then to feel the 757 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000 crazy way, that's, that is your, your therapy. 758 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,080 And then all of a sudden that day comes and you can do it 759 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,120 again. I don't care what anyone says. 760 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,520 I'm like, thank you, God. But then there'll be some 761 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,640 Jackass on the on the on the Internet. 762 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,640 We'll put what's the boards for? Oh my God, do without the 763 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,360 boards. Why can't you do without this? 764 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,640 Why can't you without that? Why is his hands on the bar? 765 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,120 It's freaking training. Yeah. 766 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,000 Exactly. It's so. 767 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,480 Goddamn contest. Yeah. 768 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,560 But hey, hey, now that now, man, you just, you just hit it now. 769 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,200 But So here's my only thing about what I don't like about 770 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,920 lifting right now. And I really mean this. 771 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,120 If you look at most of my list before the 1125, the only reason 772 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,880 1125 was done the way it was done. 773 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,400 That's the rules of the Federation. 774 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,560 I don't like having five or seven spotters around the place. 775 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,280 I hate it and I damn sure don't like a guy stand over a person's 776 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,480 face when he's doing the weight. It's like a board. 777 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,800 If a board is there, if a guy's hands are over the bar a little 778 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,360 time, you feel safer, you're going to push harder. 779 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,520 Everything else. The worst problem is there's 780 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,720 videos out there now. I have no clue if anyone's 781 00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:00,640 touching that bar or touching touching, you know, or helping 782 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:05,680 whatever in in in my ears lifting and I and I don't want 783 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,240 to get into a big tested, non tested thing. 784 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,200 But what I what I'm saying is this. 785 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,000 I didn't care if I went to a test or non test to meet. 786 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,080 It was my choice. If that person was dirty and 787 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,160 they beat me, never would ever become my mouth. 788 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,000 All the only ones because they're on drugs. 789 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,240 I don't give a shit less. That was my decision to go lift 790 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:27,480 there. OK, but I can lift even with the 791 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,520 guys that would lift their asses off the bench 3 or 4 inches. 792 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,680 I can kind of deal with that sometimes, but it's still really 793 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,000 pissed me off, especially if they won because that's clear 794 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,440 cheating. You could clearly see it. 795 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,920 But I can't compete against a whole freaking team. 796 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,680 And I think it's bullshit because I know there's lifts out 797 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,240 there right now and I've seen them because some people will 798 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:48,600 post a different angle of the lift and the spotters are 799 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,680 touching that bar. And, and I've even seen the 800 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,200 lifts back in the old days when we did the magazines everything 801 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,640 and the lift was taken away because someone saw something. 802 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,240 They said, oh, the lift was taken away because the spotter 803 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,800 touched the bar. You can't touch the bar and and 804 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,200 everyone wants to sit there and go what about the lift your 805 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,320 safety? Well, there's a video of me 806 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,320 dropping 1200 lbs mini a few years back and it's on my bench 807 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,560 that was custom made by Tyler Hobson who makes an outstanding 808 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,560 bench. And what came out of my hands, 809 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,440 which I hope it never ever happens again. 810 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,080 And I'll never forget the sound. It went the bar's fun, ripped 811 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,160 the hole in my thumb, and it just. 812 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,520 And I needed and everybody's screaming and I wish the camera 813 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,120 kept rolling because I'm like, I'm fine, fine, let's get the 814 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,840 bar. And then I'm pissed off. 815 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,000 I was like, because I thought I was going to blow that 1200 up 816 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,520 right then I was going to be the 1st 1200 LB pitcher ever. 817 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,160 And then next week Jimmy destroyed it. 818 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,080 He has 12 or something and then he has 13. 819 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,840 So I was like, God damn, Jimmy could have stopped somewhere. 820 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:54,320 But anyway, I regress. But, but I, I if you can't have 821 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,080 the proper equipment to do the lift where everyone can see 822 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,640 what's going on, then they should go do something else, You 823 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,480 know, because I'm, I'm trying to design something. 824 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,840 If I ever, if I ever get the new sponsors, the new baddest 825 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,160 venture, I want something done where you get a lift off and 826 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,280 everyone gets the hell out of the way. 827 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,960 Yeah. You. 828 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,760 Know, I mean if it falls, it's going to get caught. 829 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,880 It won't be like a monolith. I'll do something different. 830 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,760 But I have a great, great idea for this thing because when we 831 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,520 could, you could see everything. That's when everyone's going to 832 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,880 want to watch it again. Because when you can't see it, 833 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,200 what the hell they do. Yeah, I. 834 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,120 Totally agree, I think that's something that obviously the 835 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,840 Internet trolls are annoying as hell and they will never stop 836 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,720 coming to multiply comment sections. 837 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:45,320 But something that I don't like seeing is like you said, just 838 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,920 like when you see bench videos and you can't even see the bench 839 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,520 or you can't see the bar, you can't see anything. 840 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,720 You're like one with their soft elbows. 841 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:54,440 What the hell is he doing? Like how much is actually being 842 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,920 touched? If it's a like backyard me 843 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,240 quote, UN quote, like there's just so much that makes it to 844 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,720 when it looks on the Internet where they're like, oh, this is 845 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:05,720 bullshit essentially. Well, you know, Jimmy does 846 00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:07,880 something really cool. Jimmy does like 3 or 4 different 847 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,800 angles videos of when he does his record list, which I think 848 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,800 is fantastic and I hope he never stops doing it like that. 849 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,840 But but you know, just like you were talking about that too. 850 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,560 Another problem it was years ago was people's elbows. 851 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,920 You know the sleeve going way past the past the elbow a little 852 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,360 bit. He had guys with some of these 853 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,760 band shirts that that bands halfway up the forearm. 854 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,760 How do you miss that? Yeah, you know, so so those are 855 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,920 things that other sport I I dislike other than that man, I I 856 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,560 love seeing the crazy numbers. It's fun. 857 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,000 I mean, some of these girls now are doing some crazy weight too. 858 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,440 Texas high school now, I think we just had the second guy bench 859 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,840 700 lbs here. Now, the one thing I don't like 860 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,680 about Texas high school is I wish the man's shirts were never 861 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,640 allowed there. Because once they get out of 862 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,200 high school, they go to college. You can't wear that. 863 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,680 And just what happened to your bench? 864 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,160 Yeah, yeah. Now they're in a single ply and 865 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,000 it's like, oh shit. Yeah. 866 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,720 As far as SO. I guess my question to you, 867 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:12,920 obviously you've had experience and everything, what are those 868 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,720 some of the biggest gripes you have with the banter in general? 869 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:21,080 I for me personally, I I think the banter is a great. 870 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,600 I think they're fun to watch, but I think a lot of people hop 871 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,120 into them. I guess early in my opinion, 872 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,280 whether that I think everyone should get experience in the 873 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,760 Poly kind of have to go through that. 874 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,520 And that's just my opinion, but I kind of want to hear what you 875 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,040 had to say. Man, that's a hard one kind of, 876 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,680 you know, personally, I think when it comes to young kids, I 877 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,920 think they should all start off at the Poly range and and move 878 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,600 your way up. That's why I wish they would 879 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,760 wouldn't have it in high school because the reaction on some of 880 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,920 those lifts are so fast and you know, we were just about 881 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,200 spotting and stuff. Go watch the Texas high school 882 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,760 power for me and spotting exactly the greatest you know, 883 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,760 you, you've been in some of these meets where the Potters 884 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,440 weren't good. Go watch a high school or the 885 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,320 high stores kind of stay around. Their hands are down by the 886 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,840 side. They're they're not prepared for 887 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,400 what's about to happen. They'll go help the person do a 888 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,480 3 minute lift off and they're coming up like this and the kids 889 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,440 still going to lift. I mean, it's, it's crazy. 890 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,400 I don't think that really makes a difference what shirt they 891 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,600 wear. But the reaction of how fast 892 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,840 these bars fly off the chest now that's where it gets kind of 893 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,040 scary. You, you see the arms fly out. 894 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:30,800 I think people have actually broken their arms too. 895 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:37,640 So I, I just think lifters really should, to me, in such a 896 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,720 rush, they really should learn. But unfortunately, because of 897 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:43,800 the sport, they are getting thrown into the fire quickly. 898 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,640 Most of these high school coaches, I don't want to say 899 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,600 most, but there's a lot of Texas high school coaches just do not 900 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,960 know powerlifting at all. That's their weekend job and 901 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,080 they go do what they do. But a lot of just they, they're 902 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,120 clueless. And I, I love helping those 903 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,560 kids. I'm a ghost when they go to 904 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,360 their school because no one needs to know I'm helping them. 905 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,280 And, and, and that coach will look fantastic. 906 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:08,680 That's great. I I applaud it. 907 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,120 But don't hate on me if I'm making your kid look great. 908 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:16,800 Yeah, but, but I don't know, man, sometimes I think maybe 909 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,360 there should be an age requirement on some that could 910 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,840 be. Yeah, But there's. 911 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,760 But there's a lot of kids out there that did what they did and 912 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,680 they do great. Just like there's adult lifters 913 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,120 that can do great in these shirts and there's some that 914 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,360 can't do nothing in the shirts. You know, I mean, it's all about 915 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:34,920 are you coachable or not? Yeah. 916 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:35,760 And I I. Think I. 917 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,520 Yeah, I definitely agree. With your sentiment on it, like 918 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,240 I said, I think my opinion on the shirts are forever changing. 919 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:45,600 I think it's inevitable that that's the direction of sport 920 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,720 going. Like if you look on open 921 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:49,640 powerlifting, if you look at how many people did unlimited versus 922 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,400 multiply last year, the numbers are actually insanely different. 923 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,560 Well, I think another thing about open powerlifting is this, 924 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,400 have you got a record lift that goes off on that board and 925 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,280 there's no video of it? It shouldn't be on that damn 926 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,520 board because there's some other, you know, when when I was 927 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,360 picking people to do this show, there's people had 1100 comp 928 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,000 mentions that there's no video of that lift at all. 929 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,000 Yeah, and you can sit there. Well, the meat was turned in. 930 00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:17,600 But this day and age, you're going to tell me there's no 931 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,960 video. It just sounds wishy washy. 932 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,480 And and then again, of course, you see that same person with 933 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,680 some other lists. And then you'll wonder why. 934 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,040 You'll probably know why there wasn't a video because you saw 935 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,920 some of their lists that. Oh, that's probably why I didn't 936 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:30,280 make a video. Yeah, that's. 937 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,760 True, I mean. So that those are the things 938 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,400 about the sport that I I wish there was better at. 939 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,520 I mean, if you're going to record a list, especially all 940 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,800 time records and all that, they should be done a certain way. 941 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,320 I wouldn't care if there was, if there was, you know, has to 942 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,840 replay, just a replay. I mean, that goes into a whole 943 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:55,320 nother thing. Yeah, you know, but I still 944 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,880 think there should be a video of a lift it that if there's 945 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,280 nothing, how do we know whatever really didn't happen? 946 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,280 Yeah, I think. That that's a, that's 947 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,320 interesting thing to think about. 948 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,160 It'd be kind of interesting to see how that could be 949 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,520 incorporated into a rule book. But I guess one of my last 950 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,200 question for you is kind of maybe just looking ahead, what 951 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,280 are some of the goals you have maybe as a coach or as a lifter 952 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:23,040 this upcoming year? Man, my first goal is get 953 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,600 healthy. I mean I hate the huffing part 954 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,280 from all this fluid in me and stuff. 955 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,360 I hate the aches and pains. Like I have really good days 956 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,360 where I feel fantastic and then I'll have weeks where I'm in so 957 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,560 much pain all over my body and it's and then you're just you 958 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,440 look at the body weight flew up as much of fluid. 959 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:48,360 And if I get that maintained to get it down, you know, my, my 960 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:53,840 real ultimate goal is I want to get down to 262-6270 And, and if 961 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,960 I could still do some lifting there, maybe I'll go do some 962 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,160 lifting. But other than that, I'm always 963 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,040 going to lift for fun and then lift ready for fun. 964 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,760 I would love to find some new sponsors to put on the continue 965 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,320 the baddest venture. But you know, I've had two 966 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,280 ultimate goals in the sport. One I achieved, which was we 967 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,240 have an all time world record in York bar ball Hall of Fame was 968 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:19,200 another one that blew my mind and and once I got there, that 969 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,600 was the big anyone that said I didn't do whatever I did. 970 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,640 It was that. But the the one goal that I 971 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,320 really feel like I haven't done yet. 972 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:32,720 I got us on ESPN, but my my honest to God goal was I wanted 973 00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:34,800 to really bring real money to the sport. 974 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,240 It kills me. I mean, it kills me and I'm I'm 975 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:41,200 always post under. Why can strong men guys get 976 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,280 100,000 plus for deadlift and 1100 lbs? 977 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:49,600 I said Jimmy should get 250,000 or 500,000 for pressing 1500. 978 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,600 I mean, where are the world daredevils if something goes 979 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,840 wrong on their deadlift? What they do let go of the bar. 980 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,800 Yeah. Oh, there's another hand hit the 981 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,440 ground. Where are we going to drop it? 982 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,200 You know, and and and I just don't understand. 983 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,880 And you can sit there and go, well, it's equipment. 984 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,400 What the hell you think they're wearing? 985 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,400 You know, they got traps. They said. 986 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,680 I mean, I can't say what happened at the Arnold Arnold's 987 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,600 a different show, but when, when, when, what's the name? 988 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,640 Did the the 11 O2? He had a belt. 989 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,120 He had one of those strongman belts with a belt, probably over 990 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,280 it wearing a a deadlift suit underneath his T-shirt. 991 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,240 And also it doesn't look like he's wearing a deadlift suit. 992 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,120 But hell, when he was about to about to die, they're ripping 993 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,600 this things down so he could breathe again. 994 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,240 But what's the difference of what we're wearing? 995 00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:35,280 I mean, hell, I guarantee our venture weighs lighter. 996 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,720 Well, I don't know the venture it's pretty heavy, but the 997 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:43,200 policies that was a lot lighter than those, those those deadlift 998 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,440 suits, you know, so the, the goal I wish I still get 999 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,160 accomplished is really bring money to the sport, not just to 1000 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,560 make some money, but life changing money. 1001 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,880 So if you want to show, you know, it's life changing, you 1002 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,360 know, it's not just like we we won 5010 thousand. 1003 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,080 I mean, that's that's nice money, but you know, and I know 1004 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,160 this day and age, that money probably last a couple months or 1005 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,440 so and it's gone. You know, I mean, I mean, hell 1006 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,920 travel these days just to get to a shows over 1000 bucks. 1007 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,640 You know, you're paying 500 something plus to fly. 1008 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,560 Then you get your hotel. It's almost 200 bucks a nine. 1009 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,080 I mean, if you're doing Arnold, think about that. 1010 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,920 Then there's your food and everything else. 1011 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,920 So it'd be nice if we could find a good sponsor that they could 1012 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,400 pay that kind of money. I still got some ideas. 1013 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,600 But same thing for me is I got to feel healthy enough to want 1014 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,760 to go put the show on. Because my last two shows, I 1015 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,400 actually thought I was going to be good to put a show on. 1016 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,240 Then I started feeling horrible and I'm like, I can't move 1017 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:41,960 equipment feeling like this. Yeah. 1018 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,920 So. I think that's something that 1019 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,480 would be great for this boy. That's something that I hope to 1020 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,240 see in the future. It's something that even with my 1021 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:51,480 meat, just even if it's small, the meat I ran last week, that 1022 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,400 even if it's small with a prize pool, Is it something that I 1023 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,680 want to build up to over years and years and kind of be able to 1024 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,120 get to that point where you can give away thousands of dollars 1025 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,320 and have someone actually be a career pal. 1026 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,920 If they're that's not just based off of like sponsors or just 1027 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:09,240 having to coach or own their own gym, just like can actually just 1028 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:11,440 be a competitor. Well, you know the other. 1029 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,480 Crazy part is for me, who is, there's so many federations now, 1030 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,560 especially down here in Texas too, that I was putting on 1031 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,440 meats, thinking about scholarships to kids, cash 1032 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,600 scholarships, you can do whatever you want that cash. 1033 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,160 And it was going to the biggest lifts, pound for pound lifts 1034 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,720 first place. I mean, I I was giving out lots 1035 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:34,200 of money and I don't even think we had fifty people to meet. 1036 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,960 And yet if. You go to a Texas high school 1037 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,400 power for me, especially the state championship, there's like 1038 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,840 15 to 17 platforms. That's just the state meet. 1039 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,000 That's the one who made it there, you know, and and I'm 1040 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,320 sort of thinking we can't get 200 kids in there to win all 1041 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,720 this money. It was just mind boggling to me. 1042 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,200 You know, good for the ones that lifted they they won the money, 1043 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,360 but there were some other ones out there that possibly could 1044 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,800 have even a bigger chance of winning, but for whatever 1045 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,360 reason, they didn't struggle. Yeah. 1046 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:02,000 Yeah, for. Sure. 1047 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,080 And I think we can kind of wrap things up here. 1048 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,600 So I'll ask you my final question. 1049 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,400 If you could give a new lifter or someone going into their 1050 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,240 first meet a word of advice, what would you tell them? 1051 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,200 Well, before you go to your first meet, you know one thing I 1052 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,280 always tell people when when they go about lifting, they want 1053 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,040 to know what the records are. Don't worry about records, get 1054 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,280 your feet wet. So the first thing you want to 1055 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,000 do is make sure you understand the form and technique, you 1056 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,880 know, get all that down. If you're going to equipment, 1057 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,520 know your know your equipment. And then next thing, more 1058 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,160 importantly, know the rules. Know that you're going to get a 1059 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,240 press command, know if you're going to get a start command, 1060 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,080 know all those rules. You know, know if you can't move 1061 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,960 a foot or lift a hill, don't put a hill. 1062 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,640 You know, all those little things. 1063 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,560 Every federation has different rules. 1064 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,080 You got to you got to know your rules. 1065 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,280 So that that would be mine. But most importantly, have fun. 1066 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,040 Just enjoy it. I mean my lift here is when 1067 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,360 we've got paraded for the regionals. 1068 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,000 I said, dude, get in the meeting, go deepest on your 1069 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,200 squad and then after that go kill people get in the damn 1070 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,840 meet, because I don't care how long you been in a sport and 1071 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,480 this is the honest country. You can be in this for 30 1072 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,280 freaking years. You missed your opener. 1073 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,440 It's a head game. Yep, you're going to be sitting 1074 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,880 on what did I do wrong? Oh my God, that sure doesn't 1075 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,880 feel the same. It's, you know, did I have the 1076 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,000 neck right that you know, all those things will come. 1077 00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:19,360 So go in, have fun on your opener, make sure you at least 1078 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,040 do it two or three reps before you go do it. 1079 00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:22,400 Yep, couldn't agree. More. 1080 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,440 Well, I wanted to thank you again for taking the time to 1081 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,480 come on. It was my pleasure. 1082 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,120 All right. Man, I appreciate it. 1083 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,960 Man. It was it was good talks and God 1084 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:29,720 knows I can talk a lot.