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I'm Caitlin. And I'm Fiora.
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Cheers, queers. What's on the big agenda today,
Theora? Today we are back to talk about
Blank the series because we just can't help ourselves.
So this episode will not be a scene by scene breakdown like
we've been doing. This is a super special episode
where we will just be appreciating everything and
anything about Blank the series and perhaps speculate on what
happened after the novel slash the show ended as requested by
our lovely Patreon members. And also today we have our
friend Natasha joining us. Welcome to the podcast, Natasha.
Hello, Thank you for having. Me, I'm very excited to talk
about everything Blank the series.
As are we, Yes. Thank you for joining us.
This is going to be amazing. So we found.
Natasha off TikTok. Because as soon as I open the
app, your video came up and it was like, I need people to talk
about Blank too. And I'm like, well we talk 6
hours a day basically. About this SO.
Yeah, I did not think I had previously already kind of like
made a little video about blank. So this one I was just like, let
me just see. And I did not think it was going
to reach maybe a few 100 people. And so I was just like, Oh my
gosh, there's too many friends but.
Yeah, that was great. What was your introduction to
Thai Girl Love series? Honestly, it was maybe a week or
so before I made that video. I started seeing P5 on my For
you page just everywhere and I was like what is this?
And I was like who is she? How?
Do I I. Was just yeah, I was like.
Yeah, I was like. What am I?
Yeah. I was like, what am I seeing?
Like, I kept seeing that. I guess now that I know it's the
fan events with her and Yoko. And I was just like, who are
these people? Are they a couple?
Who is this woman a PIF? I, you know, I am first of all,
I am attracted to so many different humans.
So I saw her and I was just like immediate, I was like, who is
she? And so I just was like Googling
and was like, what is this? Somebody tell me?
And then I found that it was a show or a book at first.
And then I was just like, OK, well, how do I watch it?
And so I'm, I feel like I was just like asking anybody and I
found the YouTube and I was like, and then I benched it.
As you should. Yeah, now that that's an amazing
journey to discovering Blank the series.
Do you want me to answer this Caleb, or do you want you want
to answer how we discovered Blake because we've ever gotten
into this either, although our listeners right now.
Well, I don't know how you discovered it, 'cause I think
you knew it. I discovered everything through
tiara. Yeah, I just like tiara stuff is
all. Tiara.
So you go ahead with. The basically our listeners
recommended Gap, the series that's like the gateway Thai
girl show. I feel like it broke the bold
and like made everything super popular.
So we started covering Gap. And just recommended though
Theora they were talking about it for months like.
Yeah, yeah, like repeat. It took us a while to cover it
after it ended. And so once we finally got into
it, Blank was done filming. And so there was like rumors
going around that the Sam's sister is getting a show and
it's like going to be a show. And so I was intrigued because
we were like halfway through Gap at this point and I was like,
OK, well tell me more about the sister because she pissed me off
and Gap. So I'm so glad it exists because
first of all the casting like you said, and second of all it
gets into something that like I felt was lacking in the first
Tiger Love show we were introduced into.
And so here we are, still talking about it many months
later. Yeah, I do have a question for
you, Natasha. What shows have you seen?
Cuz I know you've been starting to dabble into some other shows
as well. Yes OK, so Blank was my first
one and then I did start The Secret of Us and watched like a
few episodes. I didn't get into it as much,
although I did like it. I probably will go back, but I'm
currently on gap. So I'm on like episode I want to
say I think I just got to episode 7 and I've already told
people, I've already heard people tell me they want me to
react to episodes 7:00 and 8:00. So I plan on like recording.
I guess that comes like sounds super intrigued by what that
means. And so far, so far that's what I
have, although I have a list to start after.
Like I've been told the affair should either be next or the
loyal pen. So I think I'm gonna do the
affair. That one just seems kind of more
up my alley. So I'm going to start with that
one. It's.
A it's a journey. It's also a journey.
It's a journey and it's and it's shorter.
So like you can. And I did, yes, I did hear that
as well. And I've kind of, I'm also a
reader and so that's my other like thing I do.
And so I've had to kind of like slow down on my like watching.
So I'm going slower than I did with Blank.
So it's taking me a little bit longer.
Yeah, I mean, it is fun to compare and contrast like some
of these novels. So.
So one version is inevitably more unhinged than the other.
And so it's fun to like be like, wow, OK, well, where'd this come
from? Because I didn't see this.
The other version. It's fun.
Yeah, I do want to read them too.
Like I've been asking people where I can read them and
someone gave me a little site to like, kind of read them in
English. So I do plan on doing that as
well. Because I just find that, you
know, I just want to be like, oh, I want all of them, and I
want the actual novels for my collection.
That would be great. Me too.
If anyone out there knows how to get physical copies of the
English translations, let us know.
I also would like a. Physical copy if.
You can't help it with Theor's books behind her, you can't see
all of it, but she. I know, but. 1st.
And I love that. I wish I was in my space.
I'm not in Myspace currently but I wish I was because like all my
books and everything so I I love it.
Awesome. So, well, Speaking of loving it,
what do you appreciate most about Blank the series?
OK, so this is probably why I asked if I could like say things
because what I really so I very much love that the fact that
they have AI think a good representation of AI would say a
soft femdom and also a pretty good representation of a like
submissive brat. So I am very much into like kink
and so I read about it. I have lots of friends in the
community and everything. So it's like really I really
like to find literature and media that I think represents
pretty decently. And so I just really love that
dynamic between those two characters.
Like it was like spot on and so spot on that I was just like, I
need literature. I've been asking.
I was like, I need literature like this, like give me a book
recommendation, anything. Because it just you don't see a
lot of like a femdom. You see it more of it like being
like assist man character and you don't always get it in like
a female or a woman. It's just it's just that energy
is so different. And I think the actress people
like I think she just her energy gives that like she just even
walking, doing hair, she embodies it and there's nothing.
So it definitely comes through in blank.
Like it's just like so natural and I'm like, I'm overwhelmed.
We call that big gay energy that she has.
Yes, she does. I love it.
Just has. It's beautiful.
I love it so much.
I will say that, OK, if you go to read the novel, then you're
going to like the blank novel because they go into that a lot
more because in the novel you're in like we call her Big Nung,
but Kun Nung's head, like she's the main character.
And they and she does have inner monologues and conversations
with like Anung about the Dom sub stuff.
Like they talk about it. So you will you will like the
novel. It's much more like they talk
about it and then like explicit in the scenes they have in there
versus like, I'm not kidding that the show toned it down a
lot. But like, it's much more.
You go read the novel, you like the novel.
I just got chills because I love when a story like actually has
conversations about it and it's not just like like it just
happens. I love a nice conversation
between a Dom sub situation and about what?
My gosh, you just made my whole day.
Thank you. So.
Now needs to leave to go read blank.
Yes, this. Episode is over expeditiously.
Well, OK, so you just gave me a good segue into my favorite
thing about Blake. First of all, fine, obviously.
And Yoko's hilarious. I just love her energy of just
being a brat. And it's just like, you get to
know her. You're like, that's just how she
is. And it's entertaining.
But I will say aside from them being great, the fact that the
there's two characters in a relationship that just
communicate, like that's what I love the most about the show, is
the way the two of them just communicate because that's what
relationships are. And that's what like an intimate
relationship really is like, yeah, the sexy stuff, sure.
But like being able to like be vulnerable and talk about
feelings and just they have conversations.
It's just about life. And it's just like, I appreciate
seeing that on screen, especially with queer couples
because often we don't get that. Often queer couples are so
bogged down by drama that, like, they don't get those moments to
breathe as characters. And the screenwriter really gave
additional moments in the show where they just get to breathe
and, like, talk and just exist as, like, a couple.
And it's like thank you blank because not many shows do that.
Yes, agree. Hard agree.
Also, I will say to your point also, I do like your point about
the Dom sub stuff, especially because it's it's women and that
we rarely get that in queer couples either.
Like usually with women, it's always like soft and like
romantic and like sensationalized and like all
this stuff. But it's like, let them have a
kink that's real. Like, you know what I mean?
Like I appreciate this are like we're going to do it.
I loved it, love it so much. Something I appreciate that I
somehow solve very early in the beginning is how they have the
characters reacting to their trauma and like embodying their
trauma. So I know a lot of people in the
beginning did not like Yoko's character, but it's because big,
OK, sorry, we say big Nung in little Nung and that's what I'm
used to. So if you that's OK.
So Big Nung and Little Nung have very similar trauma, but we see
them portray it and affect them in different ways.
And so Little Nung's trauma that it's what caused her to act
clingy and like a child out of her house because that's the
only way she could be a child. Because when she's in her house,
she is stuck in this box and I just, it's just really beautiful
and I love seeing the differences in how it affects
people. Oh yeah, I I really liked seeing
big young just like those conversations that she had, like
with her grandma and now also like watching Gap.
It's very interesting to kind of get a little bit more back story
too, but it and it also seemed like more information about her
other sister that you don't get in blank and you're just like,
oh, like, no wonder. Like she is feeling the way she
feels and how she's kind of reacting and the more or less
like going like no contact for the most part, like with her
grandma and like what that looks like and just living her life
and kind of like separating herself from what that was like
her family before and like just live in her life.
And then being that person for Lone Young, like to just be able
to like have support and stability and being able to have
that kind of like secureness. It's like she like provided what
Lone Young didn't have from her family.
And then Lone Young provided what she didn't have from her
family like that that acceptance.
So it was just very nicely to see that together.
Yeah, Acceptance, I think is like one of the main themes,
like this quest for acceptance. And they both like at home, like
you said, at home were denied that and found it with each
other, which I like that trope with when characters are written
like that, words like they in each other they found was
missing and like they're better for it and they find balance and
things like that. They're very much that couple,
at least for me. Yes, I like to call that like
it's well in in my little book world found family.
I love a found family. Yeah, trope where you find
people outside of your like core family and it just builds upon
that. Like I loved seeing Liun Young
and her friend group like grow and kind of that little just the
little bit of that. I just, I just loved it all.
I know. It's like, everything about it
was so good. I just, yeah, OK, wait.
To all the haters out there who were like, Oh my God, Yoko is so
annoying in the first season, it's because the character is
supposed to be annoying. Like she was playing her that
way. Because the character is
supposed to be annoying because the story is written from Big
Nong's point of view. And Big Nong is annoyed by this
person with all this energy who's like coming at her with no
chill. So like she's annoyed.
So like Yoko did her job as an actor.
To. Portray that.
So good job, Yoko. You did a good job.
And I just loved it because literally she gave off the inner
like seeing their dynamic. It definitely makes sense.
I like I I understood like how she acted.
I was just like, Oh no, like I don't know.
She kind of acts this way too, because she knows it'll get a
reaction from big young and that's what she wants girls just
like yes, that's the dynamic. Like it's it works And I was
like it works, but I loved it. Yeah, it's like an extrovert
trying to get the introvert to like, I got to crack the shell.
So she's like, I got this sledgehammer I'm just going to
keep. I was like, God damn, I go, I
spent 30 years building these balls, right?
Like, no, no, I'm not stopping, though, right?
And we're glad she didn't, because that's why we're all
here. Yes, I mean, it's also embodying
the golden retriever and the Black Hat, which is a great
dynamic as well. Yes, very much so.
I love it so much. OK.
So Speaking of what we appreciate, we also asked our
audience what blank means to them.
And I think this would be a good segue to put it here.
So I want to just read a couple of them.
We have about 10, but I think it'll give us something to
discuss as well because some of these comments are just very
meaningful. So before you jump into it, just
we've had so many responses, like overwhelming number of
responses for this question that we put out on our social media.
So like, thank you to everybody who responded.
We read everybody's comments and it's just, it's really nice to
see how we're not alone and how much we appreciated the show and
how it it like literally impacted people's lives.
So thank you to everybody who commented.
We only picked a handful to like read here, but like thank you if
you want to, if you're interested, go find our socials
and you can read all the comments so.
I just want to throw that out. There and say thank you
everybody. Yeah.
So also part of the disclaimer, like Theor said, these are only
a few of the responses and I had to shorten them and summarize in
some cases because they were very long and we very much
appreciate the length that people were willing to share
about themselves as well. It was very beautiful to read
everything. So first up, our Patreon
responses and our first one is from Leo.
So Leo writes one of my favorite scenes is from season 1 episode
6 when Juan Viva drops Big Nung at her apartment and Little Nung
shows up. They have a heated argument and
right when things get intense, Big Nung gets a call from Sam
saying their grandma has died. I honestly think before that
call Big Nung and Little Nung, we're definitely going to have
angry sex. Probably because butts Big nuns
MO, big nuns MO is like, this is a fight.
I need to shut this down. I'll weaponize my sexuality.
She does that the whole show. Yes, I agree actually.
I'm not at her, just just what she does and like as little.
You're like, well, OK, I guess. I mean, there's a goddess coming
at me, what am I going to do? They're acting in that scene as
also like that was one of Yoko's best performances in Season 1.
Like you don't really get to see her flex her acting skills
really up until that scene because up until that scene,
she's playing the role as like the younger girl, that Big Nun's
like, I don't know, like, but then in this scene you see her
like emotional intelligence kind of come out and like just how
frustrated she was with just the losing uphill battle she's
fighting with big Nun. So like that was one of my
favorite Yoko scenes. So I'm glad you highlighted
that, Leo. Thank you.
We did have a response to this comment and apparently the P1,
the CEO of Nine Star, confirmed that that's what would have
happened. See, she knows.
She knows. She knows what she's doing, the
damn genius that she is. OK, so now this one's a little
longer. This one's from Pooja.
The scene where Big Nung meets her grandma for the last time
really stuck with me. Her struggle in that moment is
heartbreaking. She wants her grandma to open up
about Song to to say it wasn't her fault and maybe even
apologize. Big Nung longs for love and
acceptance, but her frustration comes from realizing she may
never get the answer she needs. I also love how the show depicts
such a healthy relationship. Once Big Nung realizes she is in
love with Little Nung, her whole demeanor softens, adding Ka to
her sentences, showing sweet respect and Little Nung.
She's fiercely protective and biting love in its purest form.
I absolutely adore them both. On a final note, I got to know
Phi through the show and her strength and perseverance really
stand out to me. She's not only strikingly
beautiful. And very gay.
But she's also an incredibly humble and kind hearted person.
There's so much goodness in her and that's something I truly
admire. Same.
Yes to all of that. Absolutely yes. 100% agree.
Oh, that was so sweet. I always beautiful IQ food yeah
like again see it's not just us seeing the love of the
acceptance stuff and like yeah again more trauma from
grandmothers this. Is poor, but.
No. Oh grand man OK so now our
YouTube response is which you guys have great usernames.
I'm going to be my best at K Pop Mooney 3973 Blank.
The series was the first sapphic show I've ever watched in full.
Before that, I was a closeted queer, mainly because I'd never
been in a queer relationship and didn't know how it worked.
I feel ya. I even had some fear around it
despite knowing I love women. Watching how the two women in
the show navigated their relationship opened up a new
world for me. It helped ease my fears and I
feel 10% more confident as a queer woman.
After the show and a few others, I even felt comfortable
discussing my sexuality with close friends for the first
time. Thank you Blank, the series Phi
Yoko and the Thai Girl of Industry for opening my eyes.
That's the power. That's beautiful.
Yeah. That's amazing.
That's why representation matters, everyone.
Yes. I love that.
That's OK Beautiful. This comment is like why we have
this podcast to like really show the meaning of all of this
representation in these shows and why they need to be seen
more. Because we need to be seen more.
Yeah, I also love that comment too, because like, really, when
you look at the show, it's it's two people navigating their
first relationship ever also, and it's queer and messy and
just may your relationships not be as messy as this.
They're just a blessing for everyone.
Our first for it PRM. Wait for it, wait for it.
We do have are. You ready for it?
Done, done, done. All right.
So, Caitlyn. OK, at Catherine Chr, there are
so many scenes that I like. One of them is in Season 1,
episode 6. This is one of Theor's favorite
ones as well, right? Yeah, the one after the funeral.
For me, it's the first time that Big Nung realized that little
Nung is a young woman and not a child that can console her.
I love how Little Nung eases her pain verbally and physically to
the point where she feels safe enough to break down into tears.
Yeah, that's real intimacy. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. The next one at Amaya 5635.
Blank for me is the best well played girl love series I've
watched so far and the 1st girl love series that made me cancel
my every Saturday night out just to wait and watch it till the
final season and episodes. And I just thought this was.
Relatable. So I yeah, yeah, girl.
Relatable. Like refreshing YouTube, like
where is it? This was actually, this is the
first series that I watched live.
Yeah, because we caught up while Theora was watching it.
So our break, our month break that we had was spent completely
binge. Watching show.
I couldn't imagine having to wait for it.
I was. I didn't have to wait in between
seasons like everybody else. The Origin.
Listen, listen. And I didn't know there's going
to be a season 2, so I thought that was the end and I was like,
what the hell is this ending? How dare you?
It's just open-ended. Like I don't know.
They make it, will they not? They go their separate ways.
I was distraught. Also, they were mean at the in
season 2, between episode 5 of the finale, they made us wait
two weeks, not one. So I was just like.
Yeah, they decided to have it premiere in theaters like as
like a kind of fan event and so everyone could watch it on the
big screen. So that's why they they delayed
it a week. I get it.
I get it.
I. Wouldn't read the novel because
I couldn't wait. I was like, I don't need to know
what happened, I just brought it.
Yeah, I think that was right around when I visited the OR
two. So it was like, oh, we have to
change our plans for something now.
But I get it anyway. I get it.
OK. Our last platform that we have
response from is Twitter and I have no idea how to say this, so
I'm so sorry. At Sparta under score 12.
I have had an incomplete love story in the past and during
that time I got the teaser of the Blank series.
Blank series is a series. By watching it, I put together
the pieces of my broken heart. All right, so now I'm just going
to summarize the context for this.
So they were in a relationship with someone where there was a
12 year age gap and they were the younger one.
The woman was mature and intelligent but didn't fight for
their love and left. And it has been a year, and they
have focused on their studies, but they can't forget her.
Yeah. So that was one of the first
comments that we got on Twitter. And I was like, thank you so
much for opening up to us. We feel for you.
And I'm glad that Blank can help heal people who maybe have
relationships like this. OK At Molly or Molly yo 123 the
scene where Nung tells OK, the scene where little Nung tells
Big Nung to forgive herself for the things she still blames
herself for was excellent. Sometimes we blame ourselves and
can't forgive ourselves for something that has happened.
That was one of the best scenes. Yes, yes, that's the song scene.
I love that. That was one of my favorite
things. Not in the novel.
The screenwriter was like, this needs to be in here.
And it did. And so, yeah, that moment was
like, the epitome of, like, emotional intelligence from
little long to just be like, I, I see you.
I see you're beating yourself up.
Like, forgive yourself. Like, I love that scene.
It was so powerful. I love it.
Yeah, sometimes it's hard to like, you know, it definitely
shows. I think what's really good about
communication, obviously in a relationship, because it's
you're hardening yourself more than anyone else.
And to have someone be able to see your vulnerability and be
able to, I don't want to give you permission, but it's, it's,
it's very freaking to have another person who accepts you
and sees like, it can see you and say, like, it's OK, Like I
will still be here. It is OK.
Because a lot of times you put a lot of pressure on yourself
because you think it's going to push people away or it's going
to do something to other people. So you are hard on yourself.
But when you have that significant other or partner who
is just like, no, like that's not I am here for you.
That's a, that's a big thing. And I think that's a really good
thing that it showed in the in the series for sure.
Oh, definitely. There's there's especially in
that scene, there's the like little nong.
Basically it was like, you know, you can cry in front of me
basically, right? And like big Nong's like, can I
do that? Like, it's almost like it never
occurred to her that like she. Could.
Be completely vulnerable with anybody ever.
So like, which is heartbreaking in and of itself to, like, watch
somebody, like, grapple with that, you know, like, yeah, 10
out of 10, yeah. It also shows the emotional
maturity of little known. Which is outstanding.
She's the most most emotionally intelligent person in the show,
those adults. And I say, I say it's because
she reads and watches stuff and listens to the radio, because
there's no one in her life teaching her any of this.
No, I agree. OK at Somnolent.
Somnolent Panda healing as a closeted part of the rainbow,
tackling issues that seem taboo to some part of our country,
delivered that message well in clear and concise manner.
It also became my rest long after long hours of work.
I'm just glad that it can heal people like it's.
It's the power of media. I love it.
I also like the I like the comment tackling issues that
seem taboo to some parts of our country.
I also that's a whole, that's a that's what art is supposed to
be. Art is supposed to challenge
concepts and give you something to think about in A and it's
something that you wouldn't think about in real life because
quote it's taboo. But if you put it in a fictional
world, then it's like less taboo and it's more like hypothetical
than real. So I do appreciate that about
these girl up shows in general, because a lot of them came out
like before the marriage laws were going into effect and
things like that. And so they, they, they were
challenging norms. And I guess the novels those,
those authors really should get more like the credit for that.
Like they were quote, challenging a taboo topic.
And so I think that is also important because that's that's
what art is for really. OK so the next one speaks facts
at yo B1 EI. Love the proposal scene in the
final episode, especially Yoko's acting during that part.
It felt so intimate, so genuine and real and it feels so great
to see Nung Squared being so happy after all the trauma and
shit shows they have both been through.
I love. Nung Squared I.
Love nung squared, that's great. No, the proposal scene was
really, I was just like, what's happening?
It was like, it's just. And it was so.
It was just so sweet because she was so nervous.
Oh my God, so nervous. I couldn't even like, keep
myself together. I was just like, she was just so
anxious and nervous. And I'm like, you know, because
even in that moment, she was probably afraid or had fear that
she would not want to. And I'm like, this girl loves
you. Like, she's definitely going to
say yes. But even then, she was just so
nervous and scared. And I was just like, I just
wanted to give her a hug. Oh.
My God, I know. That was really sweet.
And it was so real. Like it was so very in character
the way it went down to and I was actually amazing that like
little Nong stayed quiet. I would expect her to like just
be like, yes, before she even says anything and just like
launch herself. But I guess like she's more of a
Dakotan adult now and it's chilled out a bit.
Maybe it was like she let her do it, which I I love because like,
I, I think at that point they're, they know each other
extremely well. And so like being in that
position, like you see your partner's like nervous and doing
this and but like, you know, it's something they need to do.
So it's like, I love that cuz it's yeah, yeah, it was
adorable. And I love that they go back to
the beach too, cuz that was their like, first getaway.
So like bookending again, this was a screenwriter did this.
This was not in the novel. Speaking of the screenwriter,
you, you are amazing. Thank you for everything.
Thank you for watching. Our contest.
For some reason I'm like, live. Streaming it, that was very,
that was fun to see your story and everything.
I can't believe you watched hours of us talking.
Yes. You lived this experience.
I don't know why you're living it with us, but we're we're it
brings people together. That's why we're all here.
Thank you for making this masterpiece.
If you're listening to this for some reason, we love you.
I mean, you might be, you might be.
That's awesome. OK, so the last one we have is
at Ray Muffin. Love has no age, love has no
limit. Love is the greatest strength we
have and I learned that from the series.
It will always be worth fighting for love as only it will be able
to fill in all the blank spaces in our lives.
I'm sorry, I'm singing in my head that blank's biggest baby
and I'll write 5's name. Oh, millions of others.
Yeah. No, that's just facts.
That's just facts. And that's that's a really good
way to bring it on home. Thank you, everybody, for your
participation in our appreciation episode.
Happy to hear from you. OK.
Now, should we move on? So while there's many things to
appreciate, as we've seen from all of us and all of you, but
let us ponder, is there anything you would change about the
series if you could change something?
Yes. OK, what is?
That nothing to OK so one although I did not mind Yoko, I
did not mind an age gap and I actually have no issues.
I read age gaps often so it was not an issue for me.
I there were points where like I got that her outfit, I knew she
was in like, like whatever school it was, but sometimes it
just threw me off because she would be wearing it.
And it just seemed very much like it was very like focused on
this outfit and then how she acted, which I definitely
understand, like how she was acting.
But I was just a little and it didn't last long.
I feel like it did like she it, they changed it quickly.
I don't know if it was from season 1 to see, I don't know.
But it didn't last long. But there were a few episodes.
I was like, I am a little stressed.
Yeah. Yes, the Unicorn made it the age
gap very obvious. Yeah like in the first like 2
episodes or so I would say I felt uncomfortable the first
time I watched it. I'm like hat what do you want me
to root for? Like I don't the 1st.
I was trying. I was like, I hit it.
I'm unsure, but it definitely I'm I'm I'm glad I like I still
liked it. I'm glad I like stuck with
people to see kind of a progression.
So that's one and then the other one would be I don't do time.
I don't like time jumps. I don't like.
Well, I don't mind the end as much as I've seen other people,
but I don't like, I was really, it really stressed me out that
length of time. Where am I OK to spoil things?
Oh, yeah, they've seen everything.
Yeah, yeah. They know I know perfect.
Well, I that length of time when she's in the hospital, I was not
expecting how long she was in the hospital.
That really stressed me out. I was just like, what is
actually happening? And it was like 3 months.
I was really stressed out and when it said three months, I
think I audibly screamed like I was recording myself and I was
just like, what are you? Because I was like, how long has
it been like obviously like it's not been.
I was like, what are you talking about?
And that just really I don't know.
So that's I mean, it's great it part of the story, but I.
I. Hate like that kind of thing, it
just it, it makes me want to cry.
OK so like speaking about the time jumps and screaming theor
and I watched it, we do reaction videos to everything and there
is just a clip of us going 14 years in the same.
Yeah. Oh, me too.
I did the same thing. I was so confused.
I was like, what do we mean?
What are we showing? Because it skipped.
It went from the the proposal and I was like, oh, that was so
cute. And then something was happening
and I'm confused and I'm like, oh, OK.
And I was like, who are these people?
And I was like, what did we show?
I was like, I thought it was a preview of something else.
So I was. Just like, I mean, amazing.
We're plugging the next show, alright?
That's what I was like, what are we doing?
And then she said her name and I was like, no, what are like, who
are these people? I was like, who, Who is this?
I was just kidding. He could poop.
We were. Talking like with the hands
holding and I was like, this would be a great transition.
I did once, but it's still like 14 years.
But also I would have liked and this is for every single show.
And I'm sure Theora will agree. I I yes, give us a timeline
because I don't know how much time is.
OK, what day is it? Listen, no, OK, I'm cool with
the time jumps with the like this is how much time has
passed, even though it's jarring.
Thanks for thanks for the info. Cuz sometimes they'll just cut
to the next scene and there's been a time jump and they don't
tell you. And I'm like, what time is it
right now? What happened?
Like, how long have we been? Yeah.
The time of many months later is not it either ID numbers.
Yeah, it's definitely, yeah. I want to know that when they go
to a next like, episode or something, it seems like there's
been so much time passed, but I don't know where we are.
Like I think at one point I was like, I was like, how long have
they been together now? Like what is where?
It's because they seem more comfortable, like how long, Like
where are we? So yeah, I agree.
I would like to. That's what you gonna have in.
General. Yeah, in general with.
Like a little bit more clarity. Yes, I need more clarity because
like it's just the the the transitions are all the same so
that it's like I can't even gauge with how you edited it if
there's been a time change. Yeah, it's that's AI have with
shows in general, but I've seen it.
We've seen it a lot in like the Thai girl love shows where they
just like because they're condensed a lot of the times
from the novel, but it's like, please tell me what time it is.
Just let me know. Just let me know.
Just show me a calendar in the
background. Just something so I know what
text is. Like the page is coming down
something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just have them stand next to a calendar.
Be like we're in. January put so many crossfades
in there. Show the passage of time.
Yes, they love a crossfade. They love a crossfade, Yeah.
I have talked about it ad nauseam here, yeah.
OK, Caitlin, what would you change if you could change
something? I would maybe not have the
grandmother die, which is saying a lot because I was like OK
cool, let's get rid of the grandmam we call.
Nung. 'S grandmother, yeah.
Big Nung's grandmother and Grandmam, Little Nung's
grandmother and grandmother. So that's how we differentiate
between the two. Because I just.
I want Big Nung to get the closure.
Yeah, I agree. And I think it would have been
cool if Theora was talking about how if the Grand Man was, he or
she could talk to the grandmother about like accepting
everything. And that would have been like a
really cool scene to see. Yeah, I wanted that in GAP too,
like like so yeah, I agree. Things things that I would
change is that I wanted more like intergenerational or just
generational conversations about like queerness just in general.
So like, I feel like the grandmother.
So having the grandmothers console each other and talk
about their queer granddaughters would have been great to see.
Like, OK, that's the generation where this conflict is coming
from a lot of the time with like traditional values and like
versus like the youth trying to like change things.
I would like to have seen those two characters have a
conversation just to like, again, get a better lens of
like, culturally what is going on in that generation.
Like as an outsider to this culture, Like that would have
helped me understand the context for a lot of this personally.
And I would like to have seen that.
Similarly, I would have liked to have seen it in the younger
generation. Like I feel like we had UE a
queer person being queer and like no one seems to understand
UE, you know, except like other queer people, like little non
and so like to have them have conversations from the youth
quote. The younger generations
perspective also would have been very valuable from that aspect
too. And I feel like we had the
characters, we had the time. I feel like that would have just
been a interesting to incorporate in this story.
Flesh it out a little bit more. Yeah, cuz like with big and
Little long, they're kind of like bridging a generational gap
because they're in different generations.
So like just to have the people around them have the
conversation to get a different perspective would have been
nice. My my last critique as Caitlin
might already know where this is headed.
I wanted Jim from Gap the series.
To be. To be at gallery opening because
Sam was like, hey gong, I'll bring my influencer friends.
And then Sam never brought her influencer friends.
So it would have included Jim T and Cade from Gap.
Where were they? I wanted them to be there.
OK, so Natasha Fiora is a huge gym lover.
I mean, I love Jim too, but like, we put Jim in every single
series. Like we just start writing grand
fiction. Yeah, we're we want.
Have you ever seen sex lives of college girls?
Just snippets? No, but I haven't seen the
whole. OK, well I recommend that show
in general, but we want the sex lives of college Gym.
We're just gym like queerness and it'd be great.
I love it. Anyway, but Sam said the line
and the no friends showed up, so I would have liked Sam's friends
to show up because in the book Sam's friends show up so, like,
they weren't in the show. So that's all.
All right. OK.
I think we should go here, Caitlyn.
Yeah. All right, so Speaking of fan
fiction time, so all right, one of our lovely super supporters,
Regina. Hello, Regina.
Asking a few questions that we are going to address today.
OK, so this is what happens after questions.
So what happened with Big Nung and Little Nung after like the
series ended? Specifically, there's a question
about what was Little Nung's career, and we have some insight
into that actually. Yeah, by news, I don't know,
like I've not like read the books or anything, so I don't
know if it goes into that, but. No it doesn't at all.
The show more than the books did.
Oh OK, this is free. I know she had her like podcast
situation and she's a big personality, so I definitely
could see her just continuing, even if it wasn't like podcast,
like just being some type of like entered into in the
entertainment industry. But she also seems a little like
shy to like not want her name, like like she wanted to be, you
know, anonymous. So some part of me feels like
maybe she did something like behind the scenes.
Like, I think about Gap where, you know, she was like, like
when Mon was more of like the social media manager person.
So it puts me in the mindset of like that to some degree.
Like maybe she did more things like that behind the scenes.
Like that's what I could see her doing, but.
I kind of feel like she didn't want to be her name out there
because she was always trying to hide with the pressure and
stress from the grandmother. So I'm wondering if maybe Big
Numb helps her become more confident in that and the fact
that and maybe she does become more public and then it's just
like this huge person taking over the Internet.
I mean, that's not that. I wonder if she's like a ghost
writer, you know what I mean? Cuz that's like, yeah, she's
really smart. She's very creative, but she's
like I, I feel like, OK, I feel like her big Nog is a recluse
though, let's be real. And like even with little Nog,
she's still going to be a recluse.
So I don't think that her wife being a huge fellow figures
going to go super well. So I feel like they would both
like be powerful in the background type of figures like
you were saying Natasha. So like I would have played
ghost writing novels would be something that like little Nog
would do, you know what I mean? She's smart.
I can see her doing something like that.
Yeah, as they live in novels on the island of Lesbos.
Yeah, right. Yeah, They could live in their
beach house and she's just ghost writing and like they're just
together recloosen it up. Like I can see them doing that
or. Writing like a whole book
series, romance series of like basically her life.
No, she writes. Blank the series.
You're blank the novel. She writes, She writes Blank the
series, Yeah. And then time travels and puts
Blank the series in her hands. Yes.
Oh. My God that was so funny.
Favorite product placement? They had the novel.
Yes, they love their product placement though.
And then also like you, you cannot forget the name of the
show that you're watching. It'll always be in the
background. I love that, yes.
I love that. OK but wait, didn't didn't the
screenplay writer actually comment on this when they were
like live tweeting? I think they did.
Here, why don't you keep talking and I'm going to look at it.
I think she said that Little Long ends up as a DJ on the.
Yeah, I think so on that. I mean, that makes sense because
like she's very focused on what she wants.
Like she gets it. Obviously she got big numb.
Yeah, no. Do you think she was going to
give up on her dream? Please no.
She had a She had a thought and she was very hyper focused.
Like a instant hyper focused. The amount of brain power that
that takes is actually kind of amazing to be like, yeah, mine
forever. Right.
Exactly what she said mine. She definitely said mine forever
and I don't. She was like you're going to
have to get with it or get with it.
Basically I. Don't know, you're just going to
have to accept this. Like who are you?
Yeah, she was like, you can have your little moments where you
might be feeling some type of way and I'll give you a, a
second, but there's there's no, there's no, there's no not being
together. Like, not at all.
No, so funny. Yeah.
And I yeah. I'm not sure.
That's OK, I'm pretty sure that's what that's what they
said. All right so second question
which I love this one. OK I saw this from multiple
people. I saw a TikTok conspiracy theory
about the grandmothers so little nun's grandmother and then like
big Nug's grandmother secretly being sapphic which explains why
they are overprotective with their granddaughters.
Thoughts. Caitlin's murder board.
This is my murder board that I made months ago.
If you can't tell these this, this is the grand ma'am.
This is the grandmother. I had put a string here.
They were together. They were together.
But I want to hear what you thought first.
I So what's funny is I did think the grand man is what we call
it, right? OK, I did, I had some thoughts
about her because I was just like, she is very intense about
and I feel like sometimes when people are intense about things,
it's like projection. And so I was like, she's very
much like so against it. And I also thought about, I
mean, I know it's like a taijiyo and I was like, but your other
granddaughter and then watching gap, I was like, huh.
I was like, I don't know. Because maybe maybe you're a
little upset that, you know, they are freely being able to to
do these things and you are not. So I did think that I don't know
about Lil Nung's grandmother, but I also feel like she was the
less severe of the two grandmothers there, but she was
the less severe in regards to thoughts.
Like you know how intense she was whenever it was mentioned,
it wasn't as intense of like Big Young's grandmother.
So I don't know if I like got the vibe from her, but I I don't
count it out. It definitely could make sense
that that is maybe like an unrequited love situation
between the two of them. And then look how they've kind
of trickle down and their their offspring, honestly, because
even Lil Nun's grandmother, her mom, you know?
But yeah, which was so. Which was so.
Crazy. That whole thing and that's your
ripe. I'm surprised you didn't bring
us up. I forgot about it.
So you just said it. Oh, my God.
OK. No, All right, we need it.
We can you tell you struck something We needed.
We needed a scene where. Things, actually.
Tells Little Ducks. I don't know.
Little Duck knows that she was also in love with Big Duck.
And then they bond over how hot Big Nung is, right?
And things was like, I totally get it.
Yeah, I needed something. I definitely wanted some more
like closure for that because I feel like we just got a little
snippet and she was just like, I am in love with you.
And she's just like, here's some medicine.
And I was just, I was just like, I, what do we mean?
Can we get a little bit more than that?
And then it's just like, I actually love your daughter.
And I'm just like. Yeah, it got weird real fast,
but then we never like but like a lot of pigs behavior went in
the present time. It like reads as the jealous X
like in her brain she was big on X and is like acting that way.
And it's like, can you 2 have closure about this?
Because I feel like you don't have closure.
Yeah, yeah, it's also one of my trips that I actually like or
one of my like sub trips, I guess that I like to read in,
which is like an ex's. Well, usually for the most part,
it's always an ex's dad what it is, but I don't know.
I actually like those things where like the person gets with,
but usually the ex is the bad person.
Like usually the ex is like a not great person.
And I don't know, her mom was amazing.
So I actually didn't feel. I was like, I don't know, I
don't feel bad. Like snooze, you lose.
I'm so sorry. Right, you didn't fight for it.
Ping fun doesn't fight for things.
No, she's very much like. I mean, she has her own like, I
mean, she's. Traumatized.
Yeah, he is traumatized. There's a lot of trauma in all
of all of these shows. There's.
So much. Trauma.
Probably adults are messes because they're all traumatized.
Yeah, they don't. Yeah, they all need therapy.
If I'm being honest. They would do well with an that
is. Yes, they would do well in
therapy. Caitlin, do any conspiracy
theories about the grandmothers other than the vertiboard?
Don't I? OK, so I'm thinking of a back
story here and half of this is going to be made-up on the spot.
Nice. So Nim, the grandmother and the
grandma. Grandma we're best friends when
they're younger and Nim was the Redman's personal servant, and
it's kind of like a loyal pin situation with Prick.
You'll figure that out, Natasha. When you get to it, you'll love
Prick. Prick is Jim, by the way.
We're loyal pricks, yeah. It's true.
We're. A loyal pricks.
Yeah, look, Nim, who plays Jim, plays prick and loyal pin.
It's the best. It's it's funny, it's great.
Anyway, anyway. She's the psycho.
The grand ma'am and the grandmother had like a will they
won't they they just gay stared at each other so much and Nim
was just like staring at them being like hey, I'm here, I'm
here, I'm still here and like these idiots.
So Nim is aware of everything that's going on.
The grandmother and the grand ma'am kind of have a affair
going on like the affair the series.
Oh my God, they don't. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK.
That's not giving anything away. No, you'll figure that out in
the first episode. It's very frustrating that
they're so, yeah, they're basically just staring at each
other and they like each other and they're like getting closer.
But again, they have to be married off basically, because
that is what we do. So they do get pulled apart and
they never get to be together, even though they're always,
they're longing for each other. I don't know if they had a
conversation that they liked each other.
No, I feel like though based on their generation, they never
talked. Unspoken.
Talk about it unspoken. But Nim did see everything and
that's why she's like it can never work out and that is why
she doesn't want and like okay sorry real myself.
And Nim saw the hurt that Gram the grand man had to go through
every day not being with the person that she loves.
So Nim also felt like this towards Big Nun and was like
there's not a good history with this and that's why she was not
fully accepting right away. But then she's like, oh, they
can be together and like that whole thing, that's how that
played out. So yes, the grandma and the
grandmother were never able to fully be together.
It's another type thing that I'm not going to say right now
because it'll ruin something for Natasha.
I'll tell you later. That's fine.
No, that track that tracks for like the time period and all
that stuff and why they're so like they flip the fuck out
anytime. They're like queer stuff
burning. Yeah.
Brava. That makes sense.
Though, And then also why? I mean, it's not just that big
Mong has status. When she figures out who she is,
that she's nicer, she's like, oh, the person I Love's
granddaughter. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying there is a reason that there is a line
between the grandmothers and it's it's mostly because I want
everyone to be gay. It's the big gay agenda, right?
Right. Exactly.
I'm here for it. I'm here for the old tiny
queers. I love it, right?
I just everyone's queer last question we have all right.
So when Fi and Yoko eventually get their next project at Night
Star. Because let's all be real.
What type of story would you like to see them in?
And be so honest I would love if it was like a true blue like Tim
Dom sub situation. Like if it was some type of I
don't even know if this is the thing that could happen in my
dream of dreams, a book series that I've read is called It's
Salacious Players Clubs by Sarah Kate.
And it's basically just about a sex club.
And there's different characters.
Yeah. And I love that like aspect of
like meeting in this club and like a sub coming or like coming
to find their Dom or find someone or not knowing if
they're a sub or what that looks like.
And then finding this older, more mature person to kind of
teach them how to be a sub, what that looks like and have those
bratty elements and like a brat tamer.
I don't know. I just would love if that
existed in my media. And they could pull it off, so
there's that. Good.
They could really do a good. Job with that I just that one
scene where they're laying down and like she and they're about
to be intimate and she like vocalizes what she wants her to
do. I was like, this could just be
we could just really make this, we could really take this and go
further like so that is I would, I would, I do, I would, I think
I still would prefer them to keep the dynamic.
I think they do that so well. I think it's very natural.
I don't know how I would feel if it was like a switch diet like I
or if it was the dynamic was changed.
I don't know if I would like it as much.
I think at least for the next one, I would love to to have
that dynamic and then even maybe take it further to like push it
a little bit more even. Right.
I think a lot of people will agree with you.
Yes, very happy with your answer.
I break the Internet. Yes, I think I know TR is, but I
want you to go next. I listen, I'm here for the Thai
girl love shows that are coming out now.
A lot of them are very romance based, which I'm here for that.
But I want it. I want to expand the genre, like
let's get into some other types of stories.
I really want them to do some kind of enemies to lovers thing
because I think they can pull it off really well.
Yeah, What I really want, I want them to do whatever the Thai
version of Killing Eve is because they have the acting
skills to do all that stuff. I don't know who I want playing
what because like, I think either of them could do either
character. Like Yoko would really fun as a
villanelle because she's just she's got the rage to act all of
that and be like kind of a bratty asshole, but also like be
like portrayed as confident. But then the other one makes her
like submissive, like you're saying.
And then like Phi being a mess like Eve, like I think it would
be so fun and they're both funny and like I want that show.
I want they could pull. I don't say that about actors.
They could pull that off. The enemies you had to get
enemies to lovers and almost like a a hate to love and
enemies hate like I want. I would want the attention to be
so intense like they would. Have to be.
So like the killing? I like that one I think.
They can do OK they buy stairs at people like they can do the
they can do it like give us that.
That would be incredible and like you got your romance
element. The danger, the will they won't
they stuff like the acting, I they can do it.
Let them do it. Let them do it.
I appreciate that a lot, yes. Yes.
Basically, they can do anything. They kind of can, yes, but I
want that one. What would I want?
I want something similar to again, not the the outcome.
All right, so when I say that this show title do not get
triggered something similar to the 100 or the Wilds like I want
an apocalyptic stranded on an island something type thing.
I would love to see that in the Thai girl love universe in
general, but I also just want Phi in like a Lara Croft type.
Outfit, Yes. Yeah, girl, I, we all want that.
Yeah, I think that would be great.
I just. Yeah.
Yeah, I love shows like that. So like I just want, I want to
see what they would do with it. I think she could also honestly,
she could honestly, they both could do any like I think
they're just really wide and vast.
I am excited to see their future work.
Like I'm just, I'm excited to have like found them.
I'm like, oh, and they found the whole like Thai GL like drama
community because now I'm like, I have another hyper fixation
and I don't need anymore. But here we are, and I'm going
to sit in it now. There is so much coming out and
so much that is just like different storylines now as
well. It's so cool.
I really hope the last case gets made.
Oh my God. Go watch that trailer because it
is amazing. Yeah, it's Grey's Anatomy, CSI
printed all liars and Law and Order all in one.
It's great. And I got that all from like a
minute and a. Oh, wow, yeah, I can't wait.
Yeah, I'm excited. I'm just excited to be here at
this point. We'll.
We'll give you like a whole list of things.
And like the order, you should watch them in after.
Please, I'm sure you have lists. Like, yes, so I even told I was
like, I need to create a spreadsheet and I I do plan on
like working on I would. I just need something so I can
like check off what I've seen and I like to like make a
spreadsheet just to like, Oh yes, I like this.
This is what I like to do about it and put notes just for my
knowledge. So yeah, I've got to yeah, that
that is a goal. I'm really excited though.
Yeah, well, we're happy to be here.
We're happy we all found each other.
We're happy you guys are all here with us too.
As this I girl love stuff just keeps going and going like it's
what a what a time to be alive and be watching this stuff.
It's so great. Yeah.
All right, Well, any final words
before we sign off today or Caitlin, do you have something
to say? I.
I have something, but we'll let Natasha say any final things
about Blank first. Honestly, I just want to say
thank you for having me. And like everyone else has
mentioned, Blank is just has been very validating and been
amazing for me just to have another genre to kind of like
see myself in as a late bloomer, late blooming queer came out at
34, you know, four years ago. So it's just like, I don't know,
it's just so great to again have, I love seeing
representation in my media, my books.
I see it more as a BIPOC individual and now I get to see
it, you know, as a part of the LGBTQ plus IA.
You know I love it. Awesome.
I, I love, I love media. Can you tell just a little bit?
Yeah. All right, before we sign off,
we do have to thank our wonderful Patreon supporters at
our super supporter level and above.
This is something we're going to start.
So shout out to our big gay super supporters, Jay, Natalia,
Miranda, Ian, Ian, Regina, thank you for your questions as well.
And Monet. And then we also have a big gay
family member, Dana. So thank you all.
We really appreciate your support.
We have many dedicated supporters as well.
And we just appreciate your comments and your interaction
and all your love. We love our Chaos crew that are
that's what our Patreon members are called.
Yes, and so thank you all for that.
Thank you for coming on this very long journey of Blank the
series. This has been incredible, one of
my favorite shows ever as of now and probably forever.
So for now, we will say goodbye to Blank the series, but we will
be back to discuss whatever Faye and Yoko's next project is
because let's be real, it's going to be insane and amazing
when that inevitably comes to fruition.
So we will be taking just a quick announcement.
We will be taking a tiny break from discussing girl love
series. We're going to be talking about
heart stopper and then sex lives of college girls like Caitlin
mentioned. And then as of right now, looks
like our Patreon members really want us to talk about affair of
the series, but we'll see. We're not.
We don't have a schedule. There's so.
Much. Also, we have to put out another
poll because there's so much coming out in the meantime.
As well, I know there's so many things that we've spent months
covering Blake. So like, what do you want us to
talk about next? Leave it in the comments, we
will try to kind of cover everything somehow.
Before we end, Natasha, where can people find you?
Yes. You can find me on TikTok and
Instagram at, Natasha Reads in Rambles.
So check out Natasha's content and go make more friends.
Everyone. Let's do it.
All right, Natasha, thank you again.
This has been great. Hopefully next time Bioko does
something we can gay scream about it please.
Yes, or if there's another show you're obsessed with too, just
feel free to let us know and let let us.
Know after you've seen an affair, yeah.
I will. I definitely see an affair.
You know what? I will.
I feel like I'll, I feel. Like I have things to say.
I'll let you know. Yes.
Please do, please do. All right everyone.
So you have that to look forward to also.
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