1 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:09,160 Hello and welcome to Big Gay Energy. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,360 I'm Caitlin. And I'm Fiora. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,600 Come along with us while we dive into the fun and nuances of 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,280 queer media. Representation matters, and 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,600 we're. Here to talk about it. 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,840 Cheers, queers. Welcome back to another episode 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,440 of Big Gay book club. I'll be your host Theora and 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,760 today we will be discussing the Thai girl of novel the earth 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,680 vows of the land by salmon. This is my first book I've ever 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,040 read by this particular author and this author is like well 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,240 known for writing a ton of. Books. 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,640 But this is the first one I ever read, so I'm very excited to get 13 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,200 into this. If you're a fan of the series. 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,840 I will mainly be discussing the book, not necessarily the 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,880 series. Caitlin will be joining me for a 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,840 episode where we talk specifically about the Earth, 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,200 the series, and what we loved about it. 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,560 But today we're just going to be focusing on the book primarily 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,800 like what I liked about it. I'll do a little bit of 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,600 comparison to the series, but mostly we're going to focus on 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,920 Salman's book. If you want more Earth content, 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,240 we, Caitlin I did react to the series, so you can find select 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,920 episodes on YouTube and the entirety of the series for the 24 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,680 Earth and all of the four element content on our Patreons. 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,600 For $5 a month, you can get more access to even more of this 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,760 content. There's no ads, it's full length 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,160 content, all that fun stuff. If you don't have $5 to spend, 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,120 that's totally fine. Join our Discord. 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,560 We have a dedicated channels to the 4A dedicated channel to the 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,560 four elements where everybody talks about the four elements. 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,600 So go over there, make some friends, talk about the book, 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,440 talk about the series, have a gay old time just like we do. 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,760 It's very, very fun. All right. 34 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,320 And so with that, let's get into the novel. 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,880 So if you're new here and you've never done one of our been to 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,080 one of our book clubs before, I like to first start with how I 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,360 read the novel. Just in case you're interested 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,880 in also reading Tiger love novels that have been translated 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,640 into your language of choice or in the native Thai, your native 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,199 Thai speaker also. Hi, welcome. 41 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,560 So I read it through the I think it's MEB or me, but I never know 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,080 how to say it. It's MEB. 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,280 That's the app I primarily use for reading novels. 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,960 Shout out to our discord. That's where I found it and for 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,080 my understanding, that's where the authors get the most 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,880 royalties from the electronic books that you purchase. 47 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:26,640 So I primarily read through there. 48 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:30,320 It works very similar to like Kindle in the sense that you can 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,000 like highlight and bookmark and has a lot of the functions that 50 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,120 if you read a lot of ebooks are really helpful. 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,760 So it's helpful for me when doing these. 52 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,040 I just do my highlights, do my notes, and then go back. 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,480 That's how I put these episodes together. 54 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,760 So good app. There's a lot of stuff on there. 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,840 I got actually these these I got all the four elements spoiler as 56 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,360 a discounts because I guess when the series came out they like 57 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,920 discounted the novels. So you might find good deals on 58 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:57,880 there too for purchasing them and some can be like less than 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,560 $10 American dollars and pretty pretty affordable. 60 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,840 So great app highly recommend it for your Thai grow. 61 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,120 Love reading novel adventures. Why did I read this novel? 62 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,280 Honestly. So I started reading. 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,840 I started watching the series first. 64 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,000 I was planning on reading the four Elements at some point, not 65 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,440 necessarily this soon. But then I watched the show and 66 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,120 like, immediately fell in love with the Chaos cousins, 67 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,640 specifically whom we'll. Talk a lot of I will talk a lot 68 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:27,320 about episode because they're just. 69 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,880 So great. And so I was just eager for to 70 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,320 get them know them better since they are the the primary focus 71 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,080 of the entire series. They are the four elements. 72 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,360 And I really love Din. I just resonate a lot with Din. 73 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,960 She's a huge dork and I just love her. 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,400 And so I was just like, OK, I want to know what's happening. 75 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,680 So that's why I read it. And my overall impression of the 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,040 novel, very positive. Honestly, like I said this, I'm 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,280 really, really enamored with the author. 78 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,840 I think she did a phenomenal job of setting this whole thing up, 79 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,720 creating this giant mega series of novels that are now an 80 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,040 amazing television series. Can't wait for the rest of it. 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,440 She does a great job with characterizing her characters. 82 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,720 They all feel very real. It was a lot funnier than I 83 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,240 thought it was going to be. Like the the chaos cousins are 84 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,160 hilarious and they're they're just like sibling dynamic is so 85 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,880 fun and cute and I just really loved how it was written the 86 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,600 translation itself. So I read the English 87 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,640 translation. So I sadly do not speak Thai. 88 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,720 Or can read it. So I did read the English 89 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,720 translation. The translation itself was 90 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,400 phenomenal. So thank you to the translator. 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,520 And the thing I love the most about the novel when comparing 92 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,840 it to the series as what I love with any novels is that in this 93 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:45,760 one we got a lot of inner monologues. 94 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,880 So like the thoughts of mainly Rose and Din, sometimes you get 95 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,840 the cousins and it's really funny when you get their 96 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:56,520 thoughts. But I thought it really enhanced 97 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,720 the story to know what the characters are actually thinking 98 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,000 in those in those scenarios that you see on screen. 99 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,160 And sometimes it's it makes the scene funnier, sweeter. 100 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,080 It just adds a lot to it. So I enjoyed that a lot when I 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,000 was reading the novel. And that's probably one of my 102 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,800 favorite things about books in general. 103 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,400 That doesn't always it's, it's hard to translate to a 104 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,800 television series because in a television series, not in their 105 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,320 heads, you don't get access to their mind unless the character 106 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,720 explicitly says what they're thinking and or they do a 107 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,880 phenomenal job of like emoting, like giving you the emotions. 108 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,040 But even that's not always a one to one translation. 109 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,440 So if you haven't read the novel, I highly recommend that 110 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,360 you do it. Just it did add to the 111 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,800 experience and, and, but overall the series so far is really, 112 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,280 really great. And why do I say so far so 113 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:47,640 little disclaimer. So at this stage when I'm 114 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:52,200 filming this, I have seen the 1st 6 episodes of the Earth the 115 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,960 series so 7 and 8 have not aired at this stage. 116 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:58,480 So that will impact the way I can compare it. 117 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,480 So I won't for that reason will not be doing a ton of 118 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,520 comparison. I might do more of that when 119 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,600 Caitlin and I get together and talk about why we love the 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,440 series after the series completed. 121 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,600 And so going forward, this will primarily be a discussion about 122 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,800 the novel, what I loved about it, and I'll kind of go through 123 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,120 some general things about it too, focusing on what's 124 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,240 different so far in the series. But again, primarily going to be 125 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,720 at the novel. So if you haven't read the 126 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,880 novel, this will spoil things. It might, although I feel like 127 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,840 the series is doing a phenomenal job of paying homage to Salman's 128 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:33,000 work, and it does follow it pretty closely. 129 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,160 Some scenes are altered because that's what happens when you add 130 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,800 up things. Some scenes with the cousins for 131 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,720 example are altered and honestly were just even more funny in the 132 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,280 show than they were in the series. 133 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:46,600 Not that, not that I mean the novel. 134 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,040 Not that the novel is not funny. The novel is funny. 135 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,680 But they did enhance and change certain things and honestly 136 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,240 nothing is bad. It's just it all felt feels like 137 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,040 the same story. So if you haven't read the 138 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,800 novel, this honestly wouldn't spoil much unless they decide to 139 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,120 really deviate from some key plot lines in the show, which I 140 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,440 really don't see them doing. So little disclaimer, but enter 141 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,040 at your own risk and if you haven't read it and want to read 142 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,440 it, read it and then come back. All right, so with that, the 143 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,880 storyline or the timeline events in the novel seems pretty 144 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,600 similar to the series, like I just said. 145 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,120 So a brief overview of what happens main event wise. 146 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,760 So Rosendin, our main characters are reunited after 14 years 147 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,480 amidst Rose's father Tipicorn's coma and some deadly farm 148 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,360 politics. Which is not a sentence I ever 149 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,200 thought I'd say, but here we are. 150 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,960 Then Rosendin decide to get fake married in order to protect 151 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,200 themselves mostly Rose and expose human trafficking 152 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,880 another. Sentence I never thought I'd 153 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,840 say. Throughout the course of this. 154 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,680 Rose and Din realized they like each other for real and then 155 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,040 date for real in the middle of their marriage, which is 156 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,520 amazing. And then Din's. 157 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,880 Bestie slash assistant Cow betrays Din and rows because 158 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,840 surprise, Cow loved Din all along in the most 1 sided way 159 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,880 possible and in the. End The ultimate villain. 160 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,800 Wassu almost kills Din, but Cow redeems herself, sticking that 161 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,600 man behind bars. And then Rosen didn't live 162 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,200 happily ever after, really. And that's the gist of what 163 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,360 we're going. So in the series we've we're up 164 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,640 to the point. Where we're going to get the cow 165 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,679 reveal, I'm pretty confident, but unless they really decide, I 166 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,559 listen the way the series has been going. 167 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,080 It was I. Was watching I'm like they're 168 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,679 not really lingering on her but like they started to in in 169 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,120 episode 6. I'm like, I'm pretty sure we're 170 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,600 going to get the betrayal very soon because there's the camera 171 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,760 starting to linger on Cow looking upset and like. 172 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,560 Hell hath no fury like a woman scorn. 173 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,960 OK, so with that, I'm going to start to go through things I 174 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,240 love about the series, kind of in the beginning, and then we'll 175 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,400 do a deep dive into Rose and Den. 176 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,440 So let's start first with one of my favorite things about the 177 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,520 story, which is that Rose was never the damsel in distress. 178 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,720 She could have been very easily. She's like the younger, kind of 179 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,480 naive girl who comes back to Thailand after being away for so 180 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,960 long. She doesn't know the farm 181 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,720 politics. She doesn't really know the 182 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,880 people that live there as intimately as she used to. 183 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,640 She's back in this new environment and pretty lost and 184 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,000 almost helpless in a way, because her father's in a coma. 185 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,560 She can't really trust anybody. But she was never actually the 186 00:09:31,560 --> 00:09:34,600 damsel in distress. Rose was characterized as this 187 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,440 intelligent and independent person. 188 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:39,280 And I really love that. So from the moment she arrives 189 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,480 back in Thailand, she's always questioning everyone and 190 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:47,160 everything like an intelligent person should. 191 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,040 In fact, there's one one piece where she's talking to MO Dang 192 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,560 and she says I need to follow up my father's case to find out if 193 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:57,440 this was really an accident or someone planned it. 194 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:02,520 So Rose was like self aware and she was at a disadvantage kind 195 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,680 of coming back into this super chaotic situation and that she 196 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:10,560 didn't have a lot of allies. She had MO Dang for sure. 197 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:13,120 And MO Dang's great. MO Dang's like the intelligence 198 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,800 officer on Rose's team. That bitch knows everything even 199 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,120 before they know it. And so that's a helpful 200 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,320 confidant for Rose to have. But other than that, she doesn't 201 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,760 have anybody who's in power, right? 202 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,680 She kind of has Din hanging around her, but like Din is 203 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:28,200 different. She doesn't know she could trust 204 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,160 Din, but Rose knows that the only way out of this is if she 205 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,360 helps herself. So there's one part where in 206 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,160 early on I think of chapter 1 where Wasu is harassing her and 207 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,200 Rose thinks to herself she has no choice but to find a way 208 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,280 through this uncomfortable situation on her own without 209 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,320 expecting anyone to step in and help, especially while her 210 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,520 father had yet to regain consciousness. 211 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,840 So Rose again, was never a damsel. 212 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,480 Rose was very aware that she was had to be enough to get herself 213 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,680 out of these situations, that there really wasn't anywhere she 214 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:01,800 could fully rely on. So she had to rely on herself. 215 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,360 And similarly, Rose, who's like the youngest in like the main 216 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,600 cast of characters, not with the cousins. 217 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,600 They're kind of like ancillary, but like in the farm drama plot 218 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,240 line, Rose is the youngest, right? 219 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,960 And so culturally speaking, Rose should defer to her elders 220 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,000 because that's proper including Din Wasu. 221 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,200 They're both older than her, but Rose was not blindly trusting of 222 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,360 any of her elders. OK, because she grew up in 223 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,200 America. She thinks differently. 224 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:35,160 She took Wasu and Din's accounts of what was going on in the farm 225 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,000 with a grain of salt, OK, and came to her own conclusions. 226 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,080 In fact, she even went so far as to test Wasu and Din to gauge 227 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,440 who was more trustworthy and came to the correct conclusion 228 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:47,480 that it was. Din. 229 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:50,280 And to me, this characterization, which the 230 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:56,120 author very like, painstakingly put in there, made Rose an equal 231 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,280 to Din in my mind and vice versa, because they were both 232 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,200 independently strong and intelligent women who saw eye to 233 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,280 eye on a lot of things. And that's what ultimately 234 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,960 connects them. And my favorite part of all this 235 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,720 with Rose not being the damsel in distress, is that Din was 236 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,560 also aware the whole time that Rose was not this helpless, weak 237 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:20,640 person that some people who was Sue and his father saw her as. 238 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,480 So the first time that Din explains what's going on with 239 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,160 the farm and her dad's case to Rose, like Din is like, super. 240 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,360 Vague about it. She's like, you know, bad stuff 241 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,440 happened and like, you know somebody. 242 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,880 I'm not naming names. I was doing some really awful 243 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,800 stuff. And maybe that played into why 244 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,880 your father was left bleeding on the side of the road. 245 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,880 OK, Rose, I'm not going to say anything more. 246 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,600 And after she explains this in a super vague way to Rose, Din 247 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,240 thinks to herself. Although Kasima didn't point 248 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,480 fingers at anyone, she was certain that Rose was smart 249 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,280 enough to piece things together. So that little inner piece of 250 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,360 Din's thought really shows that Din thought really highly of 251 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,680 Rose's intelligence. They've been separated for a 252 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:06,560 really long time. She got updates about Rose 253 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:09,080 through her father. But like, you can see that Din 254 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,880 in her mind respects Rose as her own person and really is like, 255 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,160 you know, I can't be accusatory, so I don't have evidence. 256 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,800 If I say this like vague. She's like, Rose is smart. 257 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,040 She'll figure out what I mean. So that shows that like Din 258 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,880 respects Rose and always has and does not see Rose as this damsel 259 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,240 in distress that she needs to save all the time, although she 260 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,200 does because she wants to. And neither and she doesn't see 261 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,560 Rose as this like helpless person that can be taken 262 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:40,080 advantage of the way that Wassu does. 263 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,120 And Speaking of Din, one thing I really love in the story is 264 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,440 Din's transformation from childhood Din to adult Din. 265 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:58,320 So when Din was a a child, she's described as this small, gangly 266 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,960 and weak little girl. And the key to that is that 267 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,800 she's not somebody physically or like, verbally is able to 268 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,200 protect the people she loved. OK. 269 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,560 And this is harped on throughout the novel. 270 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:14,240 And that's why when they cast in the series, they cast this, 271 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,760 like, gangly little girl. They did a great job with 272 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,040 casting. This is not a negative thing to 273 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,400 the girl. But they had to make her look 274 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,520 like she was somebody who could get pushed around because, like, 275 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,640 that was harped on a lot in Din's childhood. 276 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,640 And it, like, shapes Din as an adult. 277 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,520 So it's an important detail to get right. 278 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,400 And even when she's a an adult, there's still parts of that 279 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,240 help. Not helplessness, like, yeah, I 280 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,520 guess it's helplessness in a way. 281 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,960 Didn't helplessness to be able to be the one that protects 282 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,560 people. It's still lingers when she's an 283 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,960 adult. So in chapter 1, after Tipicorn 284 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,120 makes her promise to take care of Rose, didn't thinks to 285 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,120 herself how could he, Tipicorn entrust the most important thing 286 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,240 in his life to someone who had never been able to protect 287 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,040 anything precious in her own life? 288 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Uncle T, don't you think you're trusting the wrong person? 289 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,360 This inner monologue from Din is really revealing as to how Din 290 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,040 sees herself, which is she's still that helpless little girl 291 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,240 in her brain, which is really the opposite of the way the 292 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,760 people who are closest to her in her life see her. 293 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,240 Which is why Uncle Teep entrusted Rose to Din in the 294 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:26,280 very first place, because he saw how capable she was and he was 295 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:31,320 present and a big part of Din's transformation into that very 296 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,760 capable human being since he kind of served as her surrogate 297 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:42,400 dad after her father unfortunately passed away after 298 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,880 14 years of separation. Rose, when she gets back into 299 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,480 Din's life, immediately notices how capable Din is as a person 300 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,840 when it comes to protecting and fighting back. 301 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,400 So again, even someone who's like not in Din's orbit to see 302 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,000 the transformation, but like knew her then and sees her now 303 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,160 can immediately see that there's that it didn't changed. 304 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,400 And even though Din doesn't necessarily recognize that fully 305 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,040 about herself or there's that lingering insecurity within her, 306 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,400 especially when it comes to Rose, because Rose was the 307 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,560 reason she wanted to be somebody capable of protecting somebody 308 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,720 else. It was like it all came back to 309 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,800 Rose. And so the fact that it's Rose 310 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,320 now as an adult, she's like, oh crap, can I do this? 311 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,000 Oh my God. Like it's that like insecurity 312 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,400 that sparked the whole thing to begin with. 313 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,440 So then 14 years later, like Din ends up becoming Rose's safe 314 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,760 space at the end of this because Din went through this very 315 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,920 purposeful transformation with the mission to protect Rose, and 316 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,120 Din completes her mission, which you got to give it to Din, OK? 317 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,600 She's a determined human being in which she sets her mind to 318 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,280 something. She can definitely, definitely 319 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,960 do it, even if she doesn't fully believe in herself. 320 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaking of Din, Din is one of the reasons I love the Earth so 321 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,080 much because I just love everything about her. 322 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Like she's my spirit animal. OK, If like human beings could 323 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,119 be other human beings spirit. Animal. 324 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,760 It's Din because Din is just the best. 325 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:10,760 And one of my favorite. Descriptions of Din and where I 326 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,319 relate to her. Is that she was described. 327 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:15,599 By MO Dang as quote, she keeps to herself and avoids 328 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,960 unnecessarily human interactions and it's like, yeah, girl, I get 329 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,440 that. Like Din is like, listen, I'm 330 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,520 not a people person. I'm just going to kind of deal 331 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,880 with you when I got to, but like. 332 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,400 She prefers her solitude. Her. 333 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,680 Farm hard, days of work, keeping things running, honoring her 334 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,560 parents. She's great. 335 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,160 And it's really, really clear when you watch Din get to know 336 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,440 Din, hear her farm workers talk about her, that Din works 337 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,080 incredibly hard to run Sun Rock Farm. 338 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,320 Like, so hard. She basically dedicated decades 339 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,360 of her life to that farm. But the downside of that, 340 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:55,480 especially in the absence of her father, is that she, quote, 341 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,880 barely has time for anything else, according to MO Dang. 342 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,840 And it really makes me wonder with Din how this socially 343 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,400 avoided recluse takes care of herself, honestly, because we 344 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,640 get gaps in time with Din, but how does she really take care of 345 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,320 herself? She's really adamant about Rose 346 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:16,960 eating three meals a day. She's really adamant about Rose 347 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,520 having the best life about. She's really adamant about the 348 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,160 people she cares about being taken care of. 349 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:26,120 But like, how much care does Din put into herself? 350 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:29,720 She puts a lot of work into the farm and I think the farm is. 351 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,400 Like her dad's legacy. Not necessarily Din doing it for 352 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,320 herself. So it does make me wonder, like, 353 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:41,680 does Din neglect things like wants and needs that she has 354 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,920 because she'd rather put her time and energy into the people, 355 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,600 the other people in her life? Or, you know, the farm, which is 356 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,120 her father in a way. And so I do wonder that about 357 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:54,440 Din. It's not really harped on in the 358 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,120 novel or really touched on a little. 359 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:57,880 It's there's some little things mentioned. 360 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,800 But I do wonder that about Din. If you have any thoughts about 361 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,480 like, what was Din's personal life really like? 362 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,360 It did at all. Like didn't have hobbies 363 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:09,240 outside. Like, I just wonder, like, what 364 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,440 was she doing when she had spare time because she had to have had 365 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,040 moments where she had some. Did she seek out her cousins? 366 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,440 Like based on the conversations in the very beginning, it seems 367 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,880 like Din is not the one that seeks them out. 368 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,560 They seek Din out because when this whole thing starts with 369 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,680 mom, she's like, why are you calling me Din? 370 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,600 You never call me. So, you know, I do wonder that 371 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,480 about Din. Like what really was her? 372 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,120 Did her life look like outside of? 373 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:37,640 Work. Really, if anything, like it 374 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,840 must have been really just sad and lonely for Din. 375 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,400 So I just my heart kind of breaks for her a little bit and 376 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,920 I'm glad once even though human trafficking is involved, you 377 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:51,080 know, I'm glad that she ultimately gets her person and 378 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,080 her family is a lot seems a lot closer. 379 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,280 At least they're bothering her more. 380 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,680 Because some of them really love Rose. 381 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,600 And so anyway, there's that. OK, other thing I really. 382 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,960 Love about the novel is Modang. Got to have a great sidekick. 383 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,280 It's not a. Series or not, a novel without a 384 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,240 great sidekick. And you don't get better than 385 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,120 modang to be honest with you and. 386 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,560 My absolute favorite thing about Modang is she's also a self 387 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,480 aware person. She is the #1 din. 388 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,360 Rose shipper, Shipper. And at 1:00. 389 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:31,840 Point, she insists to Rose that Rose call her that. 390 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,400 And Rose is one of my favorite moments in this novel is Rose 391 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,840 has her own inner monologue, but then she's like, Modang asked me 392 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,280 to call her the number one Din Rose shipper. 393 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,520 She insists I call her this and she's like I don't know what the 394 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,400 fuck that. Means. 395 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,760 I like died laughing reading that because it was just like 396 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:50,760 such a modang thing to do. She has such, like, so much 397 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,800 confidence and I love that about her and she's unabashedly. 398 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,480 Herself at all. Times and she's another one who 399 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,880 like truly cares about Rose who like yes there is a power 400 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,480 imbalance between them, but like there's a friendship between 401 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,520 them and she's like din where she actually. 402 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,480 Should probably more like buy honestly where she's like very 403 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,960 protective of like the people she cares about and is willing 404 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,200 to do crazy things to protect them. 405 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,320 I'll get to at some point. In this book club. 406 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,160 But I do love her personality and she was a good element of 407 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,840 like comedy coming in roses circle because like a lot of the 408 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,760 comedy comes from the chaos of Din's family. 409 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,480 But also like Din Modang is another chaotic element of the 410 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,160 of the story who is in roses orbit. 411 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,160 And so when everything. Collides. 412 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,880 It's just glorious. Other thing I love about Modang 413 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,400 is she's peek peek. Chaotic bisexual. 414 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,880 Love that about her. Her first response to Rose when 415 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,480 Rose was like, tell me about Wasu and Din. 416 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:56,400 Her first thing is she's like, they're both really hot. 417 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,880 I don't want to tell you like, you got eyes, right? 418 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,800 Like, girl, she's just so thirsty all the fucking time. 419 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,840 And it's not limited to those two. 420 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:09,880 Like it gets funnier, OK. And it gets. 421 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:15,880 So obnoxious to Rose, like Modang's unabashed, unashamed 422 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,520 thirst that at one point she flat out asked. 423 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,280 Modang do you? Want to marry Din? 424 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:26,040 Because the way you're talking about, what the fuck, I'm sorry, 425 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,680 it's so funny. And then OK, again, like I said, 426 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,560 it's not limited to Din. So at one point, it's several 427 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,400 points start the novel, there's flirting that happens or like 428 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:43,440 crushing between Modang and Lom, which is really fucking funny. 429 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,880 And at wrong point, Rose thinks she says this in her thought how 430 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,400 tired she is of hearing MO Dang talk about Lom's smile. 431 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,760 Which is so funny. Which means Mone won't. 432 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,600 Shut up mom smiling at her which is so funny. 433 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,120 Because mom will smoke. Will flirt with anybody, 434 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:03,560 including trees, and then Moneang is also a giant flirt so 435 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,440 there's those two together. So much chaotic, flirtatious gay 436 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,680 energy it's hilarious. And then as an amazing. 437 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:19,080 Sidekick Probably her best best plot line was being Rose's love 438 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,760 guru and just. All the the. 439 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,920 OK, this is one of those things with the novel really shines, I 440 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,440 would say more so than the series in a way, because like 441 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,800 the dating advice she gives Rose, there's a lot more of it 442 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,160 in the novel and it's a lot more explicit and it's fucking 443 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,680 hilarious, their conversation because poor, poor Rose. 444 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,720 Rose is very earnestly. Like I don't know what what I'm 445 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,360 doing and the MO dang's like I so got. 446 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:44,600 You and then you. Find out she's never dated 447 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,440 anybody her life. And then like, she's the, it's 448 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,640 the blind leading the blind. And it's just so hysterical. 449 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,840 They're like little drama where she's trying to lead Rose 450 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,400 through this relationship and then Rose is holding back the 451 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,800 fact that it's not. Real, even though morning's like 452 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,360 you're. Married. 453 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:04,360 Why are you freaking out about this? 454 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,000 And she's like, well, you know, it's not real. 455 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,680 But anyway, those scenes were so funny in the novel. 456 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,240 I absolutely love them. And then icing on the cake, peak 457 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,560 chaotic. Bisexualness of MO Dang is at 458 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,760 the end. This hasn't happened in the 459 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,880 series yet by the time you get this. 460 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:25,920 But the scene where she tricks Wasu into kidnapping her instead 461 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,480 of Rose and then he figures I get the whole the sequence. 462 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,600 Is so funny in the novel the way it's revealed. 463 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,200 But then he finds out it's she's not Rose and it's like EW what 464 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,680 the fuck? And then she tries to hit. 465 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,040 On him anyway, and it's. So ridiculous and just peak. 466 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,280 Modang. Even in like this. 467 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,200 Life or death, crazy situation, she's still herself and that's 468 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,880 something I absolutely love about her. 469 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,480 She was just. An amazing element of chaos and 470 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,240 I just. Loved her so so so much. 471 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,000 And as a person, like I said, she's also fiercely protective 472 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,680 of Rose, the person that you know, she cares about the most 473 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,080 in this whole like situation. And I love that she was such a 474 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,960 good ride or die for Rose. But as with a lot of tiger roll 475 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,040 up series, like I don't love the power and balance here. 476 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,200 This is kind of like if you've watched or read the Loyal Pin, 477 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,360 this is like an in and prick situation where you have a clear 478 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,440 friendship happening, but one person is the boss, the other 479 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,080 person's the employee. So MO Dang's back story, which 480 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,080 isn't in the series, is that she was the daughter of Uncle Teep's 481 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:36,080 housekeeper. So and that while sweet, it's 482 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,480 like, oh, they're a member of the family, but are they? 483 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,240 They're the servants. So it kind of gives like caste 484 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,200 system vibes. Like she's born into servitude, 485 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,640 which I don't love, but it seems very common in Thai girl of 486 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,400 dramas to kind of have these like lifelong friend servants to 487 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,560 let the rich girls. Other thing that I think helps 488 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,280 kind of like the loyal pin, which was that Rose and Modang 489 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,840 were of similar ages and so kind of made sense for them to bond 490 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,440 in this fashion. But we still have the employee 491 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:16,440 employer situation going on that kind of gives me a pause a 492 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,440 little bit. But not to say that they they 493 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,960 don't care about each other and things like that. 494 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,920 It's just like it's so that's there, OK. 495 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,000 Other shining moment of Modang that I absolutely fucking love 496 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,120 and we were I feel robbed of in the novel. 497 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,160 I don't know what the series is going to do. 498 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,800 Is that when Rosa's father comes out of the coma and Rose and Din 499 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,000 are kind of a little strange from each other a little bit, he 500 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,160 asks MO Dang to fill her in, fill him in on what happened. 501 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,000 He's like, what's going on with Rose and Din, What's going on 502 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,320 with everything? And I can only imagine what she 503 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,680 told him, because we don't. Get it OK about Din and Rose's 504 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,840 relationship? But when she's done, Uncle Teep 505 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,800 says. And she's like do you want me to 506 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,760 tell you more about that? And he says you've already told 507 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,360 me more than enough MO Dang. So I don't even know what she 508 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:08,840 told him. Like how explicit she went into 509 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,880 like. And then I was giving her sex 510 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,040 advice. Like who knows what she was 511 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,120 saying to this man but I just imagined it being this unhinged 512 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,040 1 sided conversation where poor uncle teeps. 513 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,360 Like I feel my heart going out. I could think I'm in the 514 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:28,400 hospital, but anyway, I would love those scenes if someone 515 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,160 would like to write them because it sounds amazing. 516 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,960 OK, Speaking of chaos, this wouldn't be complete without the 517 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,680 chaos cousins, which are one of my favorite things of the book 518 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,600 and just I'm makes me so excited for the rest of the stories 519 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,760 because. They're ridiculous, OK, And I 520 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,480 love them all. And this is what a cute 521 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,680 connecting theme for a bunch of books, which is this whole 522 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,600 family thing going on. So who? 523 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,600 Are the chaos customs. They're the offsprings of the 524 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,680 within a wit brothers. So we have 4. 525 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,680 Brothers that then have four daughters and the daughters of 526 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,240 the four elements. And so the oldest is Kasama. 527 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,440 AKA Din, who is the earth. So Din means Earth, and she's 528 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,840 the steady grounded. Person which makes sense to cat 529 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,760 have the earth be the eldest cause those are traits normally 530 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,800 normally associated with eldest cousin. 531 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:33,840 But interestingly Kasama is a is an only child but she has these 532 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,880 cousins that are essentially function like siblings which is 533 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,080 interesting. I don't know about the other 534 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,520 ones. I will be reading the rest of 535 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,880 the elements stories to find out, but I'm assuming they have 536 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,520 a similar situation going on, otherwise there'd be more 537 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,680 elements of the cousins. But anyway, I'm gonna, I have 538 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,000 the most information about Dan because this is Dan's story. 539 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,320 Obviously it's the Earth. So she was nicknamed Earth by 540 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,320 her parents to empower her because remember when she was a 541 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,760 child, she was. You know. 542 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,120 Quote weak and her parents wanted her to be strong like the 543 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,360 earth and also her father thought Dan was very strong 544 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,560 hearted like mother earth. So they gave her the nickname 545 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,200 earth a very big strong nickname to a weak little girl you know 546 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,560 who grew up to not be that and then I was looking into her like 547 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,160 her given name or whatever Cosima and I couldn't as far as 548 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,120 I could tell it wasn't a Thai word unless I did Google wrong. 549 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,920 But I did find in Tagalog, which is a Philip, the Filipino 550 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,160 language that. It is a word. 551 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,160 In that language and it means together or partner is another 552 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,560 translation. So Din mates for life is what 553 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,840 I'm what I'm hearing is from this and that tracks based on 554 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,200 Din's entire story. Rose was her first love. 555 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,360 Rose was her only sex sexual partner. 556 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,600 Like yeah, that's Din for you. So tracks. 557 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,760 I love that the naming also shaped the character that I 558 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,000 always find that really fun when authors are that deep with the 559 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,640 character. So again, this author is my jam 560 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,920 where she like really thinks about her characters, the 561 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,800 characterization, how they're going to grow and interact. 562 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,200 And I'm I'm here for this author, honestly. 563 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,000 OK, second cousin. So this is going to be order in 564 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,760 order of age. So dens the eldest second eldest 565 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:28,000 is Oppo AKA Nam or water. And she she's described as the 566 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,680 common intelligent 1. So she's the genius of the 567 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,280 family. She functions as a hotel 568 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,080 heiress. And a workaholic that's too busy 569 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,080 for people. So when it comes to love there's 570 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,160 actually 1 scene at Din and roses like second wedding where 571 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,840 the the other cousins are like what does Nam think about love? 572 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,360 I think it was mom. Maybe it was mom. 573 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,840 Thinking about it this would make sense. 574 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,960 And they're talking about love for some reason. 575 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,120 And she's like, I wonder what I was like, what does Nam even 576 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,920 think about love? Like, do you even think about 577 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,000 love? And Nam's like, yeah, sure. 578 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,320 Nam's just thinking about it. And they're like, OK, what were 579 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,480 you thinking? And Nam's like, well, I was 580 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,760 thinking about how it's going to be Valentine's Day soon, and I 581 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,480 can have a Valentine's Day special to get people into my 582 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,160 hotels. And then she keeps. 583 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,800 Rambling and then Lam tunes her out and she's like, that's what 584 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,680 she thinks about love. That's fucking weird. 585 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,560 Like so. I love it I. 586 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,160 Love it because A it's funny and B, the the author does a great 587 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,920 job of like setting up nom and like giving hints what the next 588 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,360 book is going to be about. So that the scene at the wedding 589 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,800 at the very, very end is like a good like, hey, this is what's 590 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,720 in store for you, reader next volume, which was such clever 591 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,280 marketing, to be honest with you. 592 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,960 Like hats off to you, ma'am. That was fucking brilliant. 593 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,280 I love it so. I literally can't wait for the 594 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,160 water because to me Nom at the stage of in my journey is the 595 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,520 most mysterious, which makes sense because she's seems like 596 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,640 the most introverted and so. And then the fact that she's 597 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,280 like so blinded, oblivious to everything around her except 598 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,480 like, she's singularly focused on. 599 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,280 Work and is oblivious to anything. 600 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,440 So the fact that another human being has to get through to her 601 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,320 enough to be like, pay attention to me as a human, not as a 602 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,840 business thing. I can't wait for that journey. 603 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,240 It's going to be amazing. I can't wait. 604 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:22,640 OK and then fan favorite and third cousin is Waio AKA Lom or 605 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,720 the Air. So like the Air. 606 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,400 Anyway, the wind blows. She's playful and easygoing, 607 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,480 which nailed it. She's a police officer, and not 608 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,800 just a police officer. She's like the daughter of like 609 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,920 the. Police officer, which she 610 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,920 doesn't like to brag about or use to her advantage because Lam 611 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,600 seems like somebody who like likes to earn her own stuff and 612 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:49,080 is not relying on nepotism. So good strong character traits 613 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,600 from. Lam from You Know but know about 614 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,360 her now. When it comes to romance, she 615 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,240 says she's open to love but hasn't found the right person. 616 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,440 But she will, and she's a huge. Flirt, she's flirting with 617 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,960 Modang like she's just ridiculous and she's very blunt 618 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,320 where she's just like I see a beautiful woman, I call her 619 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,640 beautiful. I don't know what you want from 620 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,200 me then. Then who can't? 621 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,440 String 2 words together at a cohesive sentence without 622 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,840 fucking something else. So I love that. 623 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,800 And then my. Favorite actually might be the 624 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,760 youngest. Actually no Din is my favorite. 625 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,840 My other favorite might be Achima AKA Phi or the Fire. 626 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,440 She's just the way she just crashes situations with her 627 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,560 personality. It will never get old to me. 628 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,120 So she's the bold and intense one as described by her other 629 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,960 cousins. OK, these descriptions came from 630 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,600 the other cousins that I'm using, not from me. 631 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,160 And then job wise, I think she's a photographer. 632 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,080 I don't know exactly what she does. 633 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,080 Again, I will get into the novels and I'll spoil it. 634 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,800 I don't know exactly what she does because at one point 635 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,040 they're like Phi's going to. Have to go back to the mine soon 636 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,600 and I'm like what the fuck? The mine? 637 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,760 What does she even? Do like does she have multiple 638 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,040 jobs? Like what is she doing? 639 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,880 She just seems like a thrill seeker and I just, I'm very 640 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,280 excited to get it to her. But then something I something 641 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,280 one of the cousins said about. Her. 642 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,159 That, I thought, was kind of. Revealing about her personality 643 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,199 was they just. They said that Phi enjoys taking 644 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,600 photos but hates being in front of the camera. 645 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,920 So she seems like she's somebody who like, despite being a bold 646 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,320 and intense person, doesn't like being the center of attention 647 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,360 the way like mom does. So that's really interesting. 648 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,600 Like kind of like a contrasting, I like contrasting character 649 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,280 traits to me in my head. So I'm I'm also very curious to 650 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,960 see her story. And she's also is like not 651 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,400 opposed to love, but as opposed to love for herself. 652 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,840 She's like that seems like a bunch of nonsense. 653 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,920 And it could be. That she's the youngest and is 654 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,639 like, I never really thought and it's just like not there yet 655 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,880 with her life and she's like I'm just going to be free into what 656 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,280 I want, which is valid, but she seems like the most resistant. 657 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:57,080 To love noms oblivious mom is like I keep flirting and it 658 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,240 doesn't work. I'll just keep trying And then 659 00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:01,800 then is like, I've been in love with this girl for 20 years. 660 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,400 So they're very different when it comes to romance, which is 661 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,320 fun. Again, good characterization 662 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,480 because the novels will all be very distinct and different just 663 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,280 based on the protagonist, right? Just based on the different 664 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,040 character types of the elements themselves. 665 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,920 So again, what a cool concept for a series. 666 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,320 Like I just absolutely love it. And something else I love with 667 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,760 the Chaos cousins is their relationship to Rose and how 668 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:35,720 that progresses because it's so, so sweet and fun and it really 669 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:40,440 solidifies the novel and just makes it really wholesome and 670 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,200 adorable. And so first and foremost, Din, 671 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,360 like I mentioned, Din is an only child, but so is Rose. 672 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,080 Rose is also an only child. And when she's going through the 673 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,600 house, like Din's house, and sees the photo of the cousins, 674 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,400 she thinks to herself, compared to herself, this is Rose. 675 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,080 Rose's thoughts if she were to lose her father, she would be 676 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,000 completely alone with no cousins. 677 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,960 So when she sees the photo, she compares her life to Din's and 678 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,000 thinks, wow, like Din lost her father and she still has love in 679 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,280 her life because she has these cousins which are her family. 680 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,680 And she's like, if my dad were to die, I would have no one. 681 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,640 Like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have that. 682 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,840 So there's this this like element of loneliness or lack of 683 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,440 family in Thailand. Like, she has her aunt, but 684 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,520 she's in, you know, she's in America. 685 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,960 And I think in that moment, like when comparing herself to Din, 686 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,000 she realizes just how untethered she really is, especially 687 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,120 because her father's in a coma. So it's kind of stimulating the 688 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,720 fact that she doesn't have the family support in Thailand, and 689 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,480 that's not Rose's fault. Rose spent the most of her life 690 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,680 in America with her aunt and that was that was the family. 691 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:56,520 You know, she yes, she want to go back and see her dad, but 692 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,320 like that was the consistent family she had. 693 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,840 And now here she is and she's like, I don't if my dad were to 694 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,800 die for real, like I have no one here, like nobody physically 695 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,040 unless she could cajule her aunt to go live with her, like she 696 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,880 would be alone. And then that made I think that 697 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,840 that makes it's a little sad when you think about Rose, where 698 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,000 it's like Din didn't have that situation, didn't actually. 699 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,440 What Rose doesn't know is that Dan had her father, Uncle Teep, 700 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,720 who helped her through it really more than the cousins because 701 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:24,240 they they was a kid when it happened. 702 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:28,240 The the cousins are younger than her, you know, like Nam wasn't 703 00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,840 the genius hotel heiress at that time like that. 704 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:38,440 She was a teenager, you know, so when Rose is accepted into the 705 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,440 within a whit family, like it meant so much to her when that 706 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,200 happened, like when Din after their I think after during the 707 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,960 fake wedding, the 1st wedding, it was such a huge moment for 708 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,400 Rose when Din very explicitly explains to her that like she's 709 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,120 like, hey, even though the you know, our marriage is fake, like 710 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,560 you becoming a part of my family is real, like you're a part of 711 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,280 our family. We will all look out for you. 712 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,560 So Rose is now tethered to a family in Thailand that's going 713 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,800 to look out for her, like, even if the marriage is fake. 714 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,520 And like, that meant so much to Rose. 715 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,320 Like, especially coming out, like, coming off the cusp of, 716 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,360 like, looking at the photo being like, oh, man, I'm alone. 717 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,720 And then it's like, no, you'll never be alone. 718 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,320 You there. You might get sick of them. 719 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,600 But they're, they're yours now. No Takesie vaccines yet you've 720 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,800 met them. And the cousin whose acceptance 721 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,360 takes the longest is Phi. But once Phi realizes that Den 722 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,480 and Rose are like for real into each other, Phi becomes Rose's 723 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,920 number one fan. Like it's so ridiculous the way 724 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,080 Phi is like literally on Rose's side no matter what she's like, 725 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,200 basically she's like Rose. If Dan ever pisses. 726 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,960 You off again? I will beat her up for you and 727 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,800 Dan's like what the hell are you taking her side? 728 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,320 And Phi's like yeah, no, she's my I picked that one. 729 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,720 Like she picks Rose over Dan, which is the hilarious honestly 730 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,240 and honestly I think is the sweet part of the sweetest way 731 00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:58,680 that could have gone down because. 732 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,960 Phi and Rose are of a similar. Age like I think. 733 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,480 Phi is younger, I don't know the exact ages but it's kind of like 734 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,080 a the MO Dang and rose situation. 735 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,920 Like they're similar ages and Rose and Phi would have the most 736 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,400 in common like life experience wise so it's really sweet that 737 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,200 they're the ones that bond and like. 738 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:21,120 Phi is like super like fierce about it and it just like when 739 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,840 it pisses off Dan, it's hilarious. 740 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,880 So I I I absolutely love their dynamic. 741 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,920 It's and it really means a lot to. 742 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:34,680 Rose It's so cute. Something else I really love 743 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,480 about the novel and the story in general is that we have positive 744 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,560 father figures because in Thai girl love drama we seem to be 745 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,960 allergic to that sometimes. And for good reason, you know, 746 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,920 because history. And so I appreciate that we have 747 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,640 a modern story with modern dad, honestly. 748 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,720 And so starting first with Tipicor and Rose's dad, he 749 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,920 really, he's much more in the story. 750 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,720 He really, really, really did everything he could to 751 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:09,560 prioritize Rose's well-being, especially amidst the insanity. 752 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,560 That is the politics on these fucking farms. 753 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,480 Like what the? Poor Rose. 754 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,160 Like the whirlwind it is for Rose to be like. 755 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,840 There's what? Happening on these? 756 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:21,400 Farms. I thought we were growing roses. 757 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,720 We're human trafficking. What? 758 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,160 OK, but we're even get to the human trafficking first of all, 759 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,480 like TP corn and props to him because he breaks an arranged 760 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,680 marriage contract, which yes, it was informal between Wasu's 761 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,160 family and his family going back generations. 762 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,040 Like he did that so his daughter can have her own autonomy. 763 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,920 And, and really what he was doing is he's breaking 764 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,760 tradition, which means a lot in conservative families, 765 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,920 conservative countries, conservative circles, that kind 766 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,560 of stuff. And in the process of doing that 767 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,840 for the benefit of his daughter, he was potentially ruining his 768 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,080 family's reputation because like as a businessman, businesses are 769 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,840 made on deals. And here he is breaking a 770 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,560 generations old deal. Like that is a huge deal for him 771 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,920 to do that and to stick so firmly and standing by his 772 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,080 daughter. Like when he says he loves her, 773 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,480 like he really means that. He really does everything to 774 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,400 show how much he loves Rose. And I love that about him. 775 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,000 And the other thing about the him breaking the arranged 776 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,880 marriage contract, not only is it to gives Rose her autonomy, 777 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,800 which yes, he also does it because he knows what she's a 778 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,000 piece of shit, OK. And so in chapter 1, he talks 779 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,040 about Wasu. I think he talks or has a 780 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,440 thought about him, I can't remember. 781 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,760 And he says about Wasu once he has thrown them them meaning 782 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,640 women, once he has them that meaning women, he breaks their 783 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,040 hearts and discards them. I won't let Rose end up with 784 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,720 somebody like that. So he's like, OK, I don't care 785 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:58,080 if the the marriage would benefit the family and would 786 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,240 bind these two major farms together and be a great 787 00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:07,400 political marriage and empower us most, I would be marrying off 788 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,720 my giving rather my precious daughter to a monster who's 789 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:13,560 going to treat her like she's not human. 790 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,280 That's how much you love her. He's like, no, like she deserves 791 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,640 to be loved, not treated like trash. 792 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:22,960 So props to Rose's dad for seeing that and then being like, 793 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,920 absolutely not. Because sometimes, sometimes 794 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,880 poisonous love dads see that and they're like, yeah, it's fine, 795 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,240 that's fine, it's fine, That's normal. 796 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:31,720 And it's like, what the fuck's wrong with you? 797 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,280 So I good, good for you Tipicorn, for being like, I see 798 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,680 he's trash and I'm not marrying my daughter to trash. 799 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,040 Thank you. She deserves better. 800 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,760 Other aspect of Tipicorn that I really like in the story is that 801 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,960 he ends up becoming Din's surrogate father after her 802 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,280 father passes away. And I really love the way their 803 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,960 relationship builds. It's it's very it's father 804 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,520 daughter, but it's also like master and apprentice, like 805 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,400 there's a lot of respect between the two of them, that mutual 806 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:08,360 respect where he helps her out, she helps him out and it's kind 807 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,120 of like a different kind of partnership in a way, But I 808 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,240 really, really love it. It really sets the stage for 809 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,720 Tipa corn approving Din to Mary Rose, which is such an old 810 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:20,160 fashioned thing. Like despite all the. 811 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,760 Like, I mean, it's den, but despite all of the like modern, 812 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,440 like, you know, modern thinking involved here, he's like, I want 813 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,240 my daughter to marry a good person, not just marry for money 814 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:32,520 and like do all this stuff. And then Dan is. 815 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,480 He ends up marrying. Rose to this very old fashioned 816 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,920 thinking person who was den who's like I got to ask your dad 817 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,440 if I can kiss you first like which? 818 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,320 She's very respectful. I'm not making fun of. 819 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,880 Him, but I am making fun of den because it's. 820 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,280 Easy and she's hilarious and I just love that dopey lesbian to 821 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,840 death. All right, And then Speaking of 822 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,280 Din, Din also had a very positive biological father. 823 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,920 She had Tipicorn who was a very positive father figure, but she 824 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,920 also had a good father as well. So her father is Cassidy. 825 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,960 He's the he was the oldest cousin. 826 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,600 I think I am assuming the cousins like not cousin. 827 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,400 He's the oldest. Yeah, cousin the the male. 828 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,000 Cousins that started all of this. 829 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,240 I'm pretty sure I'm assuming that the it's age range goes 830 00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:16,520 back to the. Daughters as well. 831 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,200 But we get less of him in the story for obvious reasons. 832 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,760 But in the flashbacks that we do get, or the memories rather from 833 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,080 Din, it's really clear that he also really loved his daughter 834 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,920 in a similar. Fashion to tibicorn and Rose. 835 00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:36,280 So in chapter 3, one of my absolute favorite Cassidy 836 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,880 moments is we get this memory from Din where she's feeling 837 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,760 upset because she can't protect. Rose. 838 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,480 Because you know Rose is her entire life. 839 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,680 It's a din 20 years to realize she was in love with her. 840 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:53,360 But anyway, Odin, he's given her this pep talk where it was Sue, 841 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,080 I think bullied her and he gives her this pep talk about of like 842 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,720 basically that boils down to, you know, you're may not be as 843 00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:06,160 strong as him physically, but you're strong in other ways. 844 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,960 He's like, aren't you first in your class and like really 845 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,960 intelligent and all this. He's like, use that. 846 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,720 He's like fight in your own way. Don't let people push you 847 00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:18,080 around. And he says to her, I want 848 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:22,760 maiden to be strong, not so strong just so not to so no one 849 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,080 bullies you, but so that you never become a bully yourself. 850 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,040 Like you don't turn into the. Evil in the world you're trying 851 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,920 to fight. So I absolutely love that. 852 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,520 Like, it was such a great pep talk. 853 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,640 And I think that that was one of the most impressionable things 854 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,200 he said to Dan and why that memory stuck with her. 855 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,640 And it really shaped her because, yeah, later on, Dan is 856 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,600 this really strong person. And there's several trials she 857 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,920 goes through in this story where Dan very easily could have given 858 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,360 incompletely to her worst urges, especially comes a cow later. 859 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,080 But she doesn't. She remains really strong and 860 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,360 refuses to like stoop to their level. 861 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,840 She refuses to give in to her impulses the way other people 862 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,720 do. And she remains this very 863 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:12,600 good-natured person. And sometimes that's the harder 864 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,080 thing to do is to like restrain yourself and not act out and 865 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,720 like do the right thing even when it's hard. 866 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:24,080 And that's Din. Like this pep talk explains Din. 867 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,560 Like when you get her as an adult, it's one of the I think 868 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,520 one of the most important things in the novel is this pep talk 869 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,920 with her dad. And it's so sweet that he did 870 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,440 this with her. And fun fact, when I was looking 871 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,320 at the name Casa Din, I was like, this name sounds really 872 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,720 familiar. This was the last name for Pin 873 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,880 in the loyal Pin and Auntie Pad was his first name. 874 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,400 So fun fact. OK. 875 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,240 And I just want to get a little bit more into Rose and her 876 00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:56,680 father and things that I thought were interesting when it comes 877 00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,000 to the story. And we like pick up when they're 878 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,120 adults. Rose is coming back to Thailand 879 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,640 and having these conversations with her dad about doing that so 880 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,080 with her father. So her father was trying to 881 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,560 essentially solve the human trafficking problem on the farm 882 00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:13,560 before she came back from America. 883 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,320 Like. And in that in that space of 14 884 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,120 years, like when she left, human trafficking started happening. 885 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,640 He's. Trying to solve all of this so. 886 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,880 She doesn't have to deal with it or something bad happens to her. 887 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,360 And we get that scene in Chapter 1 where Rose and her aunt, Aunt 888 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,800 Laura, are discussing her father's promises to move her 889 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,440 back to Thailand because apparently he made this, you 890 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,200 know, made this promise a long, long time ago. 891 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,240 And then Rose is like, it's been 14 years. 892 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:43,360 What the hell? And Rose thinks Dad always asked 893 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,440 her to wait for him to, quote, take care of something, End 894 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,360 Quote, before she could come home. 895 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,080 So meaning that, like, it's been 14 years. 896 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,800 And Dad keeps saying like, yeah, yeah, no, like, next year, next 897 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,520 year, sweetie, next year. I got to take care of something. 898 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,040 Got to take care of something. And so in a way, he's, like, 899 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,360 lying to her about, like, what's going on by lying by omission. 900 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,120 Because he's not. He's something's going on. 901 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,640 He has to solve it, but he's not telling her what it is. 902 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,160 And she's an adult now, you know, and I don't think that 903 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,000 like this is a intentional. It's, it's purely intentional 904 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,400 the way he's handling this situation with her as an adult. 905 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,360 I think that The thing is that her father still sees Rose as 906 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,480 like his little girl. You know, I mean, to some 907 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,000 extent, fathers will kind of always, some parents, like 908 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,520 always see their children, no matter their age, as like their 909 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,520 little, their baby or whatever. And that's normal. 910 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,880 I'm not saying that. I think what's significant in 911 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:43,360 this story is that Rose and her father have lived apart for 14 912 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,160 years. So most of his memories of Rose 913 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,880 or most of his quality consistent time that he spent 914 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,360 with her was when she was a little child. 915 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,640 So I think that he, without realizing it, still sees her as 916 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,280 this little helpless person that he needs to protect because 917 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,840 she's too young to do it herself. 918 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:07,560 And he doesn't fully see her as this intelligent, independent 919 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,440 woman, which is what didn't. Sees her as. 920 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,880 And I think it has to do with the fact that his view of her is 921 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,800 very skewed by the fact that they haven't consistently seen 922 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,600 each other for 14 years. Like, he has visited her and 923 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,560 they keep in touch, but he's not with her in the way that, like, 924 00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:24,960 Aunt Laura is with her. Like Aunt Laura, maybe if she 925 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,480 knew what was going on with the farm, maybe would have advised 926 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,040 him to handle this a little bit differently because she knows 927 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:36,360 adult Rose really well, you know, And like I need to like in 928 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,720 the I keep going back to that line that he's like, my dad 929 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:42,000 asked me to like, quote, wait while I take care of something 930 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,360 before she could come home. And to me, like that, that 931 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,280 sentence, like that language sounds like something you would 932 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,480 tell a child, you know, where you're like, Rose, I need you to 933 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,400 be a big girl and take care of your aunt while I take care of 934 00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,680 something like, you know, So it just I think that he still sees 935 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,280 her as a. Child a little bit and. 936 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,080 It's understandable why based on the narrative, and I'm not 937 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,400 saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying that like, I 938 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,640 think it kind of set her at a disadvantage at the beginning 939 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,160 because she was underestimated by so many people. 940 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,400 And I think her dad was also one of those people that 941 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,720 unintentionally underestimated her capabilities a little bit 942 00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:22,560 because it's just it's been in her, in his mind, she's still 943 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,080 like a little little child. Kind of thing. 944 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,800 Other thing I love about the story in general is that the 945 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,600 author did a really good job of creating actual despicable 946 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:41,720 villains with a plausible plot. It wasn't this like caricature 947 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,040 cartoonish villain type thing. It felt unfortunately real. 948 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,920 Like Wasu and Wasu pool are human garbage full stop. 949 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,480 Involved in human trafficking. And honestly I personally was 950 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,640 not expecting a human trafficking plotline in A girl 951 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,040 of at all. But like the author went there 952 00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:07,720 and while it's horrific what was going on here, it's real. 953 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:11,840 Looking at you Epstein files, America, the world like it's 954 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,480 unfortunately, this is a real plot line with horrible people 955 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,600 and a human involving human garbage. 956 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,960 Like that's the Epstein files. So it's real. 957 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,640 And so to me, this plot line that was woven into this like 958 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:28,520 love story and this family anthology of the within a wait, 959 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,520 cousins, this plot line and the villains really gave the story 960 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,760 actual high stakes that felt real. 961 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,240 So it left. It gave like really good 962 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,720 dramatic scenarios where you felt like it was life. 963 00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,440 Or death there's. Guns involved, like Dan's at 964 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,960 gunpoint multiple times didn't shoot people. 965 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,120 Like it felt heightened. And so I love that about it 966 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,360 because it made a lot of like the drama feel more real. 967 00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:00,880 Not real, but like it made it exciting in a way. 968 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,200 Because it was just like, there was like romance and there's 969 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,040 this like. Oh, we're back. 970 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,760 To the human trafficking, like, Oh yeah, now there's guns. 971 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,960 Oh there's a fire. Like did almost died again, you 972 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,000 know? And the thing I like about the 973 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,760 way the villains were written is that they were like central to 974 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,360 the plot because like without Wassou and his father, Rosen 975 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,840 didn't don't get fake married. Like they're they're central to 976 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,000 the plot and what's happening, including the romance in a way. 977 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,320 Like adjacently, that was not their intention. 978 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,160 They actually said gay rights. But we're going about it in a 979 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,040 homophobic way, so joke's on you bitches. 980 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,200 But what I liked? About them is like while they 981 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,960 were central to the plot, they weren't too much. 982 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,480 So like Lhasa pull and his father did not overpower the 983 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,400 narrative the way the author sprinkled in their bullshit 984 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,680 throughout. So I think Simon did a good job 985 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,240 at like sprinkling in these scenes with with the villains 986 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,280 with while maintaining and then like for most part, they're not 987 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,840 in it. And and she did a good job of 988 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:13,040 balancing like them and their their threats that they were or 989 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,160 the pressure they were putting on. 990 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,640 I guess Din was there. It was this omnipresent thing 991 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,080 throughout the story, even when they weren't in every single 992 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,160 scene. So she she was able to kind of 993 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,320 like balance the scenes with having like a lot of Din and row 994 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,640 stuff, Din and her cousins and then having scenes with Wasu and 995 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,720 Wassa Pool. And but you like felt the threat 996 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:33,920 from these villains the whole time, even when there weren't 997 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,600 that many scenes with them actually. 998 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,360 So I think that was really brilliant the way she wrote it, 999 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,200 because often times you're just like, cut to a scene with the 1000 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,600 villains having to explain everything. 1001 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,400 But like, I think throughout Din and a lot of Din and Lam's 1002 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,560 dialogue, they were like putting together what was happening with 1003 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,880 Wasu and his father without actually having to have a scene 1004 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,880 with Wasu and his father. So credit to the author for the 1005 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,120 way she plotted all of this out. And it gave us more time with 1006 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,960 the cousins, which and which is what we want. 1007 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,480 OK, So great writing. Absolutely love it. 1008 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,160 And like I mentioned, she did not make the villains cartoonish 1009 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,320 because I think that this author, one of her biggest 1010 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,800 strengths is that she's really good at characterizing people 1011 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,920 and it very much shines through even with the villains, even 1012 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,880 with the characters that aren't in it too much like Cow's 1013 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,920 father. And she's a great character 1014 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,320 writer. And honestly, that's what I it's 1015 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,920 one of my favorite things of books and just TV series and 1016 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,000 things like that. So I just, I really resonate 1017 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,480 with his author a lot. I like the way she wrote it. 1018 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:41,000 All right, so I'm going to wrap up this little segment, this 1019 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,760 section with favorite moments from the series, and then we'll 1020 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,360 jump into all the dinner row stuff and the novel. 1021 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,840 So I'm going to start with my favorite. 1022 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:54,000 Din moments because Din is one of my favorites and Din is why 1023 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,800 we're here. So one of my favorite Din 1024 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,560 moments from the novels in chapter 2 when Wesu and his men 1025 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,400 show up. At Rose's farm and they try to 1026 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,160 forcefully abduct Rose and like, Din gets pushed to the ground, 1027 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,680 then she gets up and then she's got a gun and he's like, you're 1028 00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:13,320 not going to do anything, Din. And then she fires the warning 1029 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,160 shot. What we didn't get in the series 1030 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,040 is Din's dialogue where she's like, he's like, you wouldn't. 1031 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,080 Actually shoot me. She shoots him and then he's 1032 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,240 like, ha ha, you missed. And then she basically, and she 1033 00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:24,760 says, Wassu, that was just a warning. 1034 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,960 Shot dot dot dot. Because if I had really meant to 1035 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,400 shoot. You wouldn't still be standing 1036 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,360 there asking who the first corpse would be. 1037 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,800 And I was like, what the fuck, Dan? 1038 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,400 Like that was so dark. Like her thoughts are actually 1039 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,840 very dark. Like sometimes she goes to this 1040 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,400 place of just like insane seriousness like this. 1041 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,320 And I was like, holy shit, this is Din. 1042 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,240 It was wild. Like, I wish that was in the 1043 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:51,520 show because it's like a wildly protecting, fierce Din line and 1044 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,480 it's amazing. Something else that was missing 1045 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,720 in the series that's funny in the novel is that one of Din's 1046 00:55:59,720 --> 00:56:02,600 character quirks that's brought up by multiple characters is 1047 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:08,120 that she's loves her Jeep, which is so gay, and is possessive of 1048 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,440 the Jeep. Like, she won't let any people 1049 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,960 drive it, touch it, look at it. It's just like, it's really 1050 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,120 funny. I was like, that's such a gay 1051 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,920 like country girl thing. I just love that that's Din's 1052 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,480 character quirk. It's so real. 1053 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,960 And other thing I love about Din is one of our favorite scenes 1054 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,880 with her is but why she took the wedding so seriously? 1055 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,720 So, you know, didn't basically like even though the wedding, 1056 00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:34,360 their first wedding was a fake wedding, like she wanted it to 1057 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,080 be perfect and be this happy memory. 1058 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,880 And she like put so much time and effort into it, not just to 1059 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,920 sell it, but because she wanted to. 1060 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,040 And she thinks to herself, like when it's kind of all said and 1061 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,200 done and planned out, it was sweet. 1062 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,560 It made her feel warm inside. It made her excited. 1063 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,200 Her heart fluttered with excitement as if it were her 1064 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,520 real. Wedding day like den. 1065 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,120 Was so fucking cute throughout this whole thing, the way she's 1066 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,840 like, all of her smiles and stuff were just genuine and real 1067 00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,040 and it's adorable and I love that about Den. 1068 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,120 She's a a little. Softy in heart at heart. 1069 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,400 Other favorite Din moments are just anytime Rose would say 1070 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,080 something innocent and Din's brain immediately jumps to sex. 1071 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,720 It was my just. And she did it so many times 1072 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,760 because she's so thirsty, but fucking ridiculous at the same 1073 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,160 time. Especially the wedding night 1074 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,480 where Rose is like, let's just stay up all night and strengthen 1075 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,160 our bond because we don't fucking know each other. 1076 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,720 And then Din's like, what does that mean? 1077 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,640 Sex? Like she's so fucking funny and 1078 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,320 awkward about it. And I just love. 1079 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,200 It's one of I just love awkward. She is. 1080 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,680 She's so funny. OK. 1081 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,680 And then my favorite rose moments. 1082 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,880 I have a lot. Of favorite Rose moments, Rose 1083 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,960 is actually pretty fucking funny and epic and I do love Rose as a 1084 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:51,400 character so. One thing is first and foremost 1085 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,080 is when she's talking about the marriage proposal with. 1086 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,320 Modang and modang's like. You know, you don't love her 1087 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,960 now, but like, look at people in the past. 1088 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,840 They had Stockholm syndrome. They fell in love after 1089 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,160 marriage. And Rose is like, no thanks, I'm 1090 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,320 a modern. Woman, so I love. 1091 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,720 That we established that Rose has been living in America for 1092 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,040 14 years and is like, I'm not about this. 1093 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,720 I am an independent woman. That's the end of that. 1094 00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,920 I, I need to be in love with the person I marry. 1095 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:19,720 Thanks. And then I also love when Rose 1096 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,960 first defends Din. So when Wassa Pool comes to like 1097 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,920 basically tarnish Din's reputation and threaten her 1098 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,640 before the wedding, and then Rose shows up in the novel, you 1099 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,640 really get it. You're in Rose's head and you 1100 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,400 get a sense of just how fucking furious she was. 1101 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,560 She's basically like, I was too furious to be like 1102 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,280 self-conscious or anything. When she walks up to Din and 1103 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,560 like takes Din's arm and starts being like physically 1104 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,600 affectionate with her, she's just so pissed off that like she 1105 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,040 didn't, it didn't register with her. 1106 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,480 And she thinks to herself, in that moment, I wanted to protect 1107 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,640 Din in my own way, which is what Din's dad said to. 1108 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,360 Din when she was younger, which was cute. 1109 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,480 And when it's over and Wes believes Den, Rose explains that 1110 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,800 to Den, that she's like, I'm going to find a way to protect 1111 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,960 you in my own way because you're protecting me. 1112 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,640 And the cousins are in the background listening in on this 1113 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,640 conversation. And when Rose explains this to 1114 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,840 Den, that's when Phi accepts Rose because she sees how 1115 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:22,520 fiercely Rose wants to protect Den and like, which is what Phi 1116 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:23,920 wants. And she's like, oh shit, we have 1117 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,880 this in common. I respect you, Rose. 1118 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,840 OK, and Speaking of fire, my one of my favorite fucking moments 1119 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,240 in this book is Rose's reaction. The first time 5 smiles at. 1120 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,440 Her when she's doing the lady boss Rose thing since the novel 1121 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,000 they translate as. As lady but they translate as 1122 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,560 boss in the series which starts doing that shit and Rose is like 1123 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,840 what are you doing? 5 smiles at her, and Rose thinks 1124 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,040 to herself. This is one of my favorite 1125 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,640 things she's like, and most shockingly of all, actually 1126 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,480 smiled at her again. Sure, it was still a fear, 1127 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,640 slightly terrifying smile. But it was progress. 1128 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,240 I love that. The smile is terrifying. 1129 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,200 But so fucking like their relationship is probably one of 1130 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,240 my favorites in the in the whole. 1131 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,320 Story because it's just it's chaotic and it's but it's also 1132 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,120 really sweet and adorable and I love that they they kind of have 1133 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,960 this bond with each other. It's just it's but it's like it 1134 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,400 is rocky until it's smooth. It's so funny. 1135 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,960 One thing that was in the novel that's not in the series that I 1136 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:31,040 really loved is when Rose and Din come back from their their 1137 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,440 honeymoon. The first one, Rose brings back 1138 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,280 an entire suitcase of gifts for MO Dang. 1139 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,480 And I thought it was really sweet. 1140 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:39,800 And she has her unloaded from the carpet. 1141 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,640 She's like that's for you. Like she got her so many 1142 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,440 souvenirs. She had a whole suitcase full, 1143 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,800 which is just really sweet and just have thoughtful roses. 1144 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,640 And again, that they do have a friendship style relationship 1145 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,680 too, despite the like boss employee thing. 1146 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,080 And Rose does think of MO Dang. Which is really cute. 1147 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:05,760 I also love when Rose starts becoming consciously possessive 1148 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,080 of Din. One thing that the author puts 1149 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,440 in there is this. Like lipstick? 1150 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,600 Mark thing that keeps coming up. So at the wedding, the wedding 1151 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,320 goes down very differently in terms of like their the kiss. 1152 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,240 Kiss kiss scene So at the wedding what happens is neither 1153 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,720 of them know what to. Do because they're ridiculous. 1154 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,280 So Rose is like, I guess I'll initiate it because Din never 1155 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,400 does anything. And so she kisses Din on the 1156 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,640 cheek. There is no fainting. 1157 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,880 There's no this. The series was ridiculous. 1158 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,000 Where den faints, which is yes, she's so gay she faints. 1159 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,320 But in the novel, she doesn't. And so Rose notes that when she 1160 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,640 does that, there's a lipstick print on Den's cheek. 1161 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,800 And there's a call back in the series in episode 6 when she's 1162 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,640 like, oh, a lipstick mark that's from the novel. 1163 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:54,400 So any time that Rose feels possessive of Din, she will 1164 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,080 touch the that spot where the lipstick was or kiss it again. 1165 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,960 And in Chapter 7, Rose thinks to herself, she wanted to keep that 1166 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,160 mark there so it wouldn't fade. So it becomes this. 1167 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,440 Like. Tangible and then symbolic thing 1168 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,560 and Rose like attaches meaning to it, and I like the way the 1169 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,920 author used that and it I think it's cute that it starts at the 1170 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,480 wedding as this like impromptu Oh shit, we got to do something 1171 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,680 thing, but then Rose starts being like, no, I want I want 1172 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:22,520 that to be. Real. 1173 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:23,520 It's basically what she's saying. 1174 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,120 It's really, it's cute the way it was written. 1175 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,720 OK. And then last, last favorite 1176 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,800 Rose moment is when they're in Chiang Mai, OK. 1177 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,120 And Rose's jealousy revealed something that was really funny 1178 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:41,600 to me that was in the novel. So in that scene, there's Din's 1179 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,040 there. And then the hotel owner's 1180 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,120 daughter, Khan, I think is her name. 1181 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,400 Hits on Din 'cause this person's had a crush on Din forever and 1182 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:55,560 then Rose gets jealous. Obviously, and she thinks to 1183 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,880 herself, quote, even without cow around now, there was Con. 1184 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,320 What was it with Din and women's whose name begin with K? 1185 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,240 And I thought this was really funny because it's such a queer 1186 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:06,840 person. Thing. 1187 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,600 At least it's. Something I relate to because 1188 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,040 like I went through a period of time where like I only had 1189 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,360 girlfriends whose name started with J and it was like what the 1190 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,600 fuck is this all about? But it was like the circumstance 1191 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:18,720 thing with those, like they just all. 1192 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,560 Happen to have the same name. But it was just like a funny 1193 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,800 thing and so like. Salman, I see. 1194 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,120 You girl, I see you like that was such a queer. 1195 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,400 It's a queer person thing. That was fucking funny that was 1196 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,280 in here because Din is such a. Useless lesbian. 1197 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,440 She like defines the term. Let's be honest. 1198 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,920 All right, before we wrap this section up and get into Din and 1199 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,920 Roses romance, last thing I had to talk about in terms of 1200 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,400 favorite moments in the novel are my favorite cousin moments. 1201 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,560 So my favorite cousin moments are anytime somebody outs down 1202 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,880 to rose like mom constantly being like she's on you, like, 1203 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:56,000 you know, it was ridiculous. I also really loved the I I so 1204 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,040 I. Read Phi's introduction before 1205 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,520 watching the series and I will never be over the way that 1206 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,360 character's introduced by just like barging in and being like 1207 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,440 I'm marrying this woman instead. I've never met her before. 1208 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:08,960 What's your name? Yes, that one. 1209 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,360 Just like the way she just barges in and inserts herself. 1210 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,040 And then like I didn't know you're here. 1211 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,960 Like also the amount of time that five just shows up randomly 1212 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,000 is a hilarious to me. But her introduction was just so 1213 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,640 unhinged I just loved it. Speaking of unhinged moments, 1214 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,760 the one time that Lom flirted with Modang was also hilarious. 1215 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,800 So what happens is that a mom comes to the farm looking for 1216 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,080 Din and Rose and asks Modang like where are they? 1217 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,400 And then Modang tells her wherever they. 1218 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,360 Are and then, Lom says. Thanks a lot. 1219 01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,120 Beautiful modang. And MO Dang, without skipping a 1220 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,040 beat, replies. Oh, Mom, you. 1221 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:49,600 Always tease me with the truth like it was just iconic behavior 1222 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,320 for both of them. Like mom just being the flirt 1223 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,560 that she is and the MO Dang with her unwavering confidence being 1224 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,560 like you flatter me I already know I'm hot. 1225 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,360 It was just so funny like those two. 1226 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,720 I wish they interact more because they were just both so 1227 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,520 chaotic. And lastly, my favorite cousin 1228 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:11,200 moment is five third Wheeling didn't rose. 1229 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,560 It happens. Quite a bit, but my absolute 1230 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,560 favorite which just happened in episode. 6. 1231 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,760 Is it's in Chapter 11 of the novel, so when Din is. 1232 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,240 Pressing Rose to explain why. She's like, oh, you felt. 1233 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,520 Possessive and jealous of me. Like why Rose? 1234 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,560 Please tell me you. Want to tell me the other day 1235 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:27,600 then we didn't get to finish this. 1236 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,560 And then she's like pressing Rose, and Rose is on the cuffs. 1237 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,880 Of saying I like you, OK, She's like stuttering. 1238 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,800 And then Phi just jumps into the Phi just jumps in. 1239 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,720 She's like Dan, are you? OK, And then Dan's like, Phi, 1240 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,440 what? Why are you even here? 1241 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:41,560 You're here. Nam's here. 1242 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,920 What the hell? And then Rose awkwardly gets out 1243 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,800 of this conversation and leaves. And then? 1244 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,200 Phi's looking at Dan and she's like. 1245 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,960 Why do you look like that, Dan? Aren't you happy with? 1246 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,560 Gay. It's like, no, if I you just 1247 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,280 twat. Like dance and it's not OK, but 1248 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,960 it was so funny because like, you don't know in the novel, you 1249 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,600 don't know what's going on. You're just trapped with Din and 1250 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,760 Rose and then suddenly they're screaming. 1251 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,560 You're like, I don't know. That's a knob shows up and it 1252 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:13,360 gets it gets funnier. OK, because on the cusp of that, 1253 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,960 Rose and then Din get into misunderstanding and then Din 1254 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,120 upsets Rose by accident because Cow comes to see her after the 1255 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,400 fire and is like, are you OK? All that drama happens. 1256 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:25,920 And Nam. Is there and Nam's. 1257 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,720 We're talking to Din. OK, Nam, the woman of few. 1258 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,200 Words and she's. Like Din, I've planned many 1259 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,800 weddings, not funerals, but I think I need to start booking a 1260 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,800 grave for you as Rose looks so fish she's going to kill you it. 1261 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,440 Was so funny, like if all. The cousins were not to be like 1262 01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,600 I think I got to start digging your grave because you're you're 1263 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,760 toast it. Was so funny. 1264 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,400 And you know that Gabe did shit. It was really fucking funny. 1265 01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,400 And last favorite cousin moment is the everyone knows except. 1266 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,960 Them moment which also happened in episode 6. 1267 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,640 So Din basically tells her cousins and I think it's all of 1268 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,560 them that are there and she's that she likes. 1269 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,880 Rose for real? And it's like just like not 1270 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,840 nobody reacts. So then Din's like. 1271 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,360 Oh wait, you all knew. And then mom says din. 1272 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,120 Anyone watching from space can tell. 1273 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,800 It's so fucking funny. She's like, you guys are so 1274 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,720 stupid. And then you're wondering why Fi 1275 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,360 is being all weird and shit and you're like, Yep, we all figured 1276 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,720 it out a long time ago. It's like Din's planning your 1277 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:30,600 funeral. It's like Mom's. 1278 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,960 Planning your funeral anyway, they're so. 1279 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,920 Stupid. I just love how stupid Din is. 1280 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,040 Sometimes, but it's just like. It's like that oblivious. 1281 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,480 She's sweet and just oblivious to everything and just like she 1282 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,760 just takes herself out. She's so nervous sometimes. 1283 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,360 It's very cute but her cousins are so funny and together. 1284 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:55,040 The way they banter with each other is just everything and 1285 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,440 anytime they're all in a room together and there's just like 1286 01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,640 dialogue with them, it's just utter. 1287 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:01,960 Perfection. I love it. 1288 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,520 All right, before we jump into DID and Rose's relationship from 1289 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,240 start to end, we're going to take a brief moment to give some 1290 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,040 shout outs to our Chaos crew over on Patreon. 1291 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:20,279 So OK, so for those on the big gay ride or die tier or above, 1292 01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:25,920 this is our $15.00 a month tier where our members get exclusive 1293 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,560 bonus content, bonus episodes, bonus reactions, things like 1294 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,240 that. Thank you guys specifically for 1295 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,000 all of your support. So as a thank you to you, 1296 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,200 Caitlin and I will always give you guys a shout out in every 1297 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,080 one of our episodes. 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Thank you all for all of your 1321 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,080 support and thanks for interacting with the Earth. 1322 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,800 I hope you're enjoying this novel retelling slash 1323 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:07,120 discussion. All righty. 1324 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,360 So thank you everyone. And with that, we will move on 1325 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:15,960 to Din and Rose's relationship. So let's start at the beginning. 1326 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:20,160 So they are the classic childhood friends to wait we're 1327 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,960 dating always have been trope. Their relationship started when 1328 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:28,320 Din was 10 and Rose was 4, So they had quite an age gap as 1329 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:34,240 kids. And four year old Rose views Din 1330 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:38,240 as an older sister, obviously, like, I mean, looks up to her 1331 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,200 things that they're they were close close as kids when they 1332 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,560 grew up. And Rose was really aware of 1333 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,160 Din's insecurity and reality at the time that Din wasn't able to 1334 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:53,320 protect her on her own. But Rose was very aware that Din 1335 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,600 was, quote, the warmest person she knew. 1336 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,240 And that was how Rose described Din when she was four years old, 1337 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,640 which is pretty remarkable that she was associating warmth with 1338 01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:07,520 Din when she was 4. It's quite young, and the 1339 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,640 narrative throughout the story really harps on Din's inability 1340 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,160 to protect Rose all by herself, which I've been over. 1341 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,560 And especially particularly in comparison to Wasu, because they 1342 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,000 all kind of grew up together, those three. 1343 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,880 And even though Wasu was capable, Wasu was always 1344 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:25,000 bullying Din and causing a bunch of trouble, which Rose remembers 1345 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,560 too, that he was a troublemaker even when he was a kid. 1346 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,080 And so we do wonder about this comparison between like Din and 1347 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:36,000 Wasu and like the I'm not able to protect you as a kid, but I 1348 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,760 am as an adult situation that goes on between Rose and Din and 1349 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,360 their relationship. And I do wonder if it's meant to 1350 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:46,080 demonstrate there was an imbalance that existed when Did 1351 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,840 and Rose were children. Like Rose needed protection, 1352 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,440 didn't couldn't protect her fully. 1353 01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:54,880 So it's almost like this fate thing where fate's kind of 1354 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,920 saying, well, now is not the time for the two of you to be 1355 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,320 fully be together. You guys need to grow a bit, 1356 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,480 which makes sense. They're kids, Obviously they're. 1357 01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:04,840 Kids. But then 14 years later, when 1358 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,680 they were adults, both Din and Rose have now both grown into 1359 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:09,840 very capable women, and so they're equal. 1360 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,200 So now it's like Fates, like, OK, go forth and be. 1361 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,560 Gay, You guys did it, you're worthy of each other, whatever. 1362 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,640 So it's kind of like this like imbalance, they achieve balance 1363 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,640 and then they get there happily ever after thing. 1364 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:23,680 And I like that narratively, I think that fits into like, you 1365 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:28,240 know, a lot of like Eastern philosophies really harp on or 1366 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,640 not harp, but like value balance. 1367 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,720 And so that would be an imbalance to a balance. 1368 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:34,920 And that would be a good relationship narrative that I 1369 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,320 like. So when they're adults, they 1370 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,400 reunite. That's that's when the story 1371 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,240 really picks up. And it's really obvious that Din 1372 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,560 has been pining for 14 years for Rose. 1373 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,000 Yep. I think even maybe Tipicorn kind 1374 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,160 of picked up on that also because he was the one keeping 1375 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,000 her in the loop of what was going on with Rose. 1376 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,840 He was obviously was like I'm so proud of my daughter, but also 1377 01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,080 like did is like a hard eyes like you can see them from space 1378 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:03,080 to quote mom. And when Rose sees Din against 1379 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:08,480 the biggest thing that Rose notices is Din's expressions. 1380 01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:12,520 And so, she notes to herself Rose the the serious expression 1381 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,040 on Din's face, devoid of all. Emotion and the absence of the 1382 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,320 smile she used to give me in response to my chattering. 1383 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,440 So she noticed that like, Din is just very serious all the time 1384 01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:28,240 and like never smiles. And Din starts thinking that 1385 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,000 like or not Din Rose starts putting that together with the 1386 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,040 the big thing that changed, which is not her leaving, but 1387 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:38,120 Din's father passing away. And if you think about Din, like 1388 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,680 when her father passed away, she was really forced to grow up 1389 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,520 really quickly because suddenly she had to be the leader of the 1390 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,520 farm and the family. She's the oldest cousin. 1391 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,400 She's like the next generation, her father's gone. 1392 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,960 She can't let the farm fail. All these workers are depending 1393 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:54,640 on her. Like she's, yeah, she inherits 1394 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,760 all these dependents and she's like, fuck well, and then is 1395 01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,840 strong enough to rise to the occasion and do it. 1396 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,920 But I think she had to sacrifice a lot to do it. 1397 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:08,640 So her innocence, her youth in a way her wants and needs, like I 1398 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,560 mentioned before, I think a lot of that was lost. 1399 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,800 And so then just became this very serious person because all 1400 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,840 she put all her effort into serious things like running the 1401 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,160 farm, taking care of other people. 1402 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,840 But I think the narratively, another thing the author's 1403 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,840 trying to get at is that like Din's happiness is Rose and Din 1404 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:32,240 doesn't start to become happy and like unserious until Rose 1405 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:33,720 starts interacting with her more. 1406 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,240 Because I think that that was like Rose is a part of her past 1407 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,400 before her father passed away, before Din had the weight of the 1408 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:45,360 world, the weight of her family on her, she was more free and 1409 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,040 carefree. And I think that she associates 1410 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,280 that with Rose in a way. And so when Rose comes back, I 1411 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:56,560 think a lot of those emotions and like Din's wants and Din's 1412 01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,600 desire to be carefree and, and have fun, I think all of that 1413 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:06,560 comes back when Rose comes back because Rose forces her to kind 1414 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,040 of confront it just by being Rose. 1415 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,440 And I think that like that's why I like Din associates happiness 1416 01:15:12,440 --> 01:15:16,040 with Rose and in a way it's kind of similar to if you've watched 1417 01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,600 or read affair like child Plenoid's novel. 1418 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:24,240 It's very, very similar thing happens like minor spoiler, like 1419 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,680 after Juan Viva and playing, they're separated for almost the 1420 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,960 same amount of time. Like when they're back in each 1421 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,240 other's orbits. Playing is like Juan Viva never 1422 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,760 smiles. And it has to do with the fact 1423 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,760 that playing when she doesn't have playing, she. 1424 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:37,800 Doesn't smile when she has playing she. 1425 01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,080 Smiles. So it's kind of similar to it's 1426 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,680 a similar kind of like a like romance probe, I would guess 1427 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,960 between Din and Rose. But I think with Din and Rose, 1428 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:49,320 it more so had to do with like all these, you know, events that 1429 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,240 went and now that it didn't go on an affair, it did. 1430 01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:54,000 But I'm not here spoil affair. I'm here spoiled the earth. 1431 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:58,160 So I think a lot of that was tied up in in Din's association 1432 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:03,560 with happiness and Rose, even when they're reunited, One thing 1433 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,000 I really love about their relationship, what really drew 1434 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,680 me to the story it was how respectful it was. 1435 01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:14,960 So starting with Dan, like Dan from the the go, the get go is 1436 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,520 so incredibly respectful of Rose. 1437 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,560 So in chapter 1, when Rose is trying to figure out what the 1438 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,880 fuck to do in this insane situation, he's like, who do I 1439 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,040 believe? Like Wasu who's telling me Dan's 1440 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:30,520 trash or Dan who's like, Yo, your dad told me to take care of 1441 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,160 you, I'm here to take care of you kind of thing. 1442 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,280 And so she asks them independently is when she's 1443 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:37,720 testing them. It'd be like, who do I trust 1444 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:43,280 when she asks them? Din responds, who when versus 1445 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,320 like, who do I believe you were him? 1446 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,880 And she's like, well, you know, you need to make up your own 1447 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,080 mind because no one can decide for you. 1448 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,560 You're an adult Rose and I believe you can make this 1449 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,400 decision on your own. So I love how respectful it is. 1450 01:16:54,440 --> 01:16:56,680 It didn't always saw Rose as a capable human being. 1451 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,840 And like that's evident in that dialogue. 1452 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,920 But also like she, she respects Rose as a person and respects 1453 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,640 her opinions. And what I love about their 1454 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,160 relationship is that it's mutual. 1455 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,880 The respect is very, very, very mutual when they have the fake 1456 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:14,280 marriage Din and make sure to tell Rose like, look, this is 1457 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,000 fake. Yes, people legally have to get 1458 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,800 married because property etcetera. 1459 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,000 But like if you fall in love with somebody or you don't want 1460 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,960 to do this anymore, you just tell me we will end it. 1461 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,640 Like you know your life is more important and what you want is 1462 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,440 more important than like us doing this to like for to stop 1463 01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:31,480 human. Trafficking, whatever we're 1464 01:17:31,480 --> 01:17:34,960 doing. And I love that Rose does it 1465 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,120 right back. She's like Din that's mutual. 1466 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,040 Like, I know you're doing this to help me, but also like, don't 1467 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,080 sacrifice everything for this. Like you can also divorce me at 1468 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,160 any time, like things like that. So I love that they have this 1469 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,160 mutual respect between them, and that's very consistent 1470 01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:50,960 throughout their entire relationship. 1471 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,880 And so they get fake married. And then when they get fake 1472 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,960 married, that's really when they get to know each other better as 1473 01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:02,480 adults. Not fully, but better. 1474 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:03,880 OK. And that's when they realize 1475 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,880 that like, they've had these feelings for each other all 1476 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,240 along. Like the warmth Rose was feeling 1477 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,560 was like the budgeting of like an affection for Dim that turns 1478 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,360 romantic when they're older. And I do like when they kind of 1479 01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:18,840 they start getting to know each other more. 1480 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,760 And Rose learns more about Din's life, like particularly what 1481 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,680 she's been through the past 14 years, where Din explains that 1482 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,680 she took over a sunrock farm, her father died. 1483 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,200 And it's a lot more explicit what's going on, what went on 1484 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,240 with Din in the novel. And Din's kind of explaining 1485 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:36,960 this. And she tells Rose how she 1486 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,720 struggled for years. Like Rosa's always like, man, 1487 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:41,520 you make this look so easy. And then it's like, it wasn't 1488 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,080 always like, I struggled for years to figure this out and I 1489 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,840 had nobody. Like I didn't have my dad to 1490 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,440 teach me. But then explains it like, your 1491 01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:50,160 dad helped me. That's why we're close. 1492 01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,000 And then she says something to me that was important in terms 1493 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,360 of like, how didn't probably didn't take care of herself. 1494 01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,920 Or she says, I didn't have time to go on vacations or set aside 1495 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:03,200 my responsibilities with so many workers depending on me. 1496 01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:08,520 I just couldn't. So that tells me that when Din 1497 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:13,120 became fully responsible for the farm, her life became small and 1498 01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:18,080 and limited to her enormous duty on the farm. 1499 01:19:18,440 --> 01:19:21,240 Like she says, I could not set aside my responsibilities like 1500 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,360 she could never stop working because the duty was too big. 1501 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,440 And I get the sense that Din did neglect taking very good care of 1502 01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:32,520 herself or indulging into what she wants and needed because she 1503 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:37,360 was constantly trying to take care of others for years. 1504 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:43,320 And Rose, I think, recognizes how much didn't has changed and 1505 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,160 how much that responsibility really changed her. 1506 01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,880 And that's why she's like, it manifests as the smile. 1507 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,960 OK, the smile is gone. That's why she's like, oh, 1508 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:52,640 that's why she's never. Like. 1509 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,160 Carefree. She's so serious. 1510 01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,360 And Rose thinks Din had gone from a bright and cheerful girl 1511 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,360 to someone distant and reserved, cutting herself off from the 1512 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,600 people outside of her closest cousin. 1513 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,720 So Din did isolate herself in a way she didn't mean to, but it 1514 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,120 was like she had to in order to fulfill these enormous 1515 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:15,880 responsibilities. And then as Rose and didn't 1516 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,760 interact more, Rose starts noticing when Din smiles at her 1517 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,240 for real with the warmth. And she noticed notes that the 1518 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,360 smiles are warm. OK, that's like Rose's feelings. 1519 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:32,040 And Din's feelings, so like that's Din's tell, OK, like her, 1520 01:20:32,440 --> 01:20:34,720 her tick, OK. Where Rose is like Din's having 1521 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,200 real feelings right now kind of thing. 1522 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,800 And then in Chapter 7, Rose notes when one of those smiles 1523 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,360 happens, that it was a smile straight from Din's heart and it 1524 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:47,720 reached right into hers. So Din's warm smile basically 1525 01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,160 means I love you. And Rose puts it together pretty 1526 01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:54,400 early And along the lines of the smiling. 1527 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:58,040 Rose is not the only one that notices that Din's smiling more. 1528 01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,360 Cow also realizes that, and she brings it up very awkwardly to 1529 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:03,400 the reader. Who's reading it? 1530 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,320 I was like, Oh dear. And she's like, why are you 1531 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:06,160 smiling so much? Dad? 1532 01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,960 And Dan's like Rosebot happiness back into my life, which is very 1533 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,720 sweet and cute but also causes some drama. 1534 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,480 Later when we get into Cal's story, which. 1535 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,200 Dad, we'll go over. All right. 1536 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,960 So then after they get married, they go on the honeymoon, they 1537 01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,400 go to Pracha and stay at one of Nam's resorts. 1538 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,160 And obviously this was orchestrated by the cousins, 1539 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:29,680 because Din. Deserves it. 1540 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,560 And they're also like, hey, you know, this needs to be a 1541 01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,680 plausible or whatever. And like people are going to 1542 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,920 like they're gossiping motherfuckers, you got to go. 1543 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,400 But I think that this was orchestrated because I think 1544 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,960 even they realize that Din needs a fucking vacation because she 1545 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,120 hasn't had one in years. OK, Like a real break. 1546 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,800 And so this honeymoon is significant in the fact that 1547 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,680 this is one of the first time since her father died that Din 1548 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,880 slowed down enough in her life to, like, appreciate the 1549 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,560 present. Because there's a lot of 1550 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,520 dialogue in there where Rose is like, what do you want to do 1551 01:21:58,520 --> 01:21:59,920 this and that. And Din's like, I don't know. 1552 01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:01,560 We don't have to be anywhere in the morning. 1553 01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,080 I don't have to get up at a certain time. 1554 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,440 I don't have to do things. She's like, we could just do 1555 01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:08,760 whatever. So I think Din hasn't had that. 1556 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:10,920 Din, like lives by her schedule. She's like, I got to be in 1557 01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,240 Chiang Mai today and talk to a supplier. 1558 01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,640 I got to be here. I got to be there. 1559 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:14,960 I got to be there. I'm sleeping in my office. 1560 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,880 I'm too tired. So there's a lot of flush, like 1561 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:19,840 being present in the moment in this honeymoon. 1562 01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,400 That's important coming from Din. 1563 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,440 And I think it's really significant that Din is having 1564 01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:28,040 this first break with Rose. And I think it's important that 1565 01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,200 Rose was there. Well, Din was kind of like 1566 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,920 taking a break because Rose is the change, like the catalyst 1567 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:41,280 for Din to kind of like revert back to some of her, you know, 1568 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,120 childhood self, which was the more carefree affection. 1569 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,920 Like not the Din is an affectionate, but like openly 1570 01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,680 affectionate and like giving it to her whims, her emotions in a 1571 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,040 healthy way kind of thing. And I think that, like, it's 1572 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,400 important that Rose was here when Din goes on her first 1573 01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:01,080 vacation in like, years, when they're on the honeymoon, 1574 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,000 something I love that happens that I think is so important for 1575 01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,240 the relationship is that Rose demands equality in their 1576 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:08,160 relationship. OK. 1577 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,440 So like, again, Rose is always like, Din, what do you want to 1578 01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:12,440 do? And Din's like, whatever you 1579 01:23:12,440 --> 01:23:14,240 want, Rose. I'll do whatever what my 1580 01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:15,320 favorite thing is. Your favorite thing. 1581 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,000 And Rose starts getting fed up with this. 1582 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,080 And she says to Din, you're just agreeing with me. 1583 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,720 Again, I'm suggesting plans so we can come up with ideas 1584 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,440 together. But you're letting me decide 1585 01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:25,440 everything. And I love that Rose 1586 01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:29,720 consistently makes quality in their relationship a sticking 1587 01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,760 point because she's a modern woman. 1588 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,880 After all, and. One of the reasons I love that 1589 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,480 Rose does this is that by saying things like this, it actually 1590 01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:42,080 leads to healthy communication between the two of them, which 1591 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,160 is a weakness of dens. And I think that's something 1592 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,600 that Rose brings to the table that actually makes Din a better 1593 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,160 person overall because Rose is like, we need to talk and 1594 01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,960 communicate like therapists. This is therapy Den and Den's 1595 01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,080 like, OK, let me express, express with words. 1596 01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,680 Den and like forces Den to communicate because she's 1597 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,640 horrible at communicating because she doesn't outside of. 1598 01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:03,960 Business. She doesn't have to communicate 1599 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:05,400 her feelings, so she doesn't know how to do it. 1600 01:24:05,480 --> 01:24:09,760 We just fell in. So Rose says to Din, If you 1601 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:13,360 always go along with whatever I want and never express what you 1602 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,760 actually want, eventually you'll start feeling suffocated. 1603 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,400 But if you start being honest instead of just agreeing with 1604 01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,400 me, we'll be able to truly understand each other. 1605 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,960 And then Din responds. Anything that makes you happy 1606 01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,520 makes me happy. Rose is so speechless she 1607 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,800 doesn't say anything. But in her brain she's like, Din 1608 01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,120 is so fucking. Stubborn. 1609 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,400 I'm not talking to her anymore. You're useless. 1610 01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,680 But I just. Love that Rose tries and she's 1611 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,960 like no den you can't just like give me everything I want. 1612 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,120 Like what the fuck do you? Want and then it's like I. 1613 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,240 Just want you to be happy. She's like no bitch, you got to 1614 01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,520 want things. And while it's funny and 1615 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,160 comedic, I do wonder if like, Den really doesn't know what she 1616 01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:56,520 wants, honestly, because she's never had enough time and mental 1617 01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,800 space to actually think about that, you know what I mean? 1618 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,560 Which is actually kind of sad when you think about Din, 1619 01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,640 because all Din has been doing is work, work, work, take care 1620 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:06,840 of cousins, work, work, work, work, work, take care of 1621 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,440 cousins. And then Rose comes back in the 1622 01:25:08,440 --> 01:25:10,280 picture and it's work. Rose take her cousins. 1623 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,080 Rose Work. Bert Rose, Rose, Rose. 1624 01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,560 So like she doesn't know she doesn't have time. 1625 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,360 I don't think Din knows who she is honestly. 1626 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,880 And like hasn't really thought what do I actually want? 1627 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,240 And then when it comes to Rose and Rose is constantly badgering 1628 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,200 her being like tell me Dan, tell me Dan, tell me Dan. 1629 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:25,880 I think over time didn't becomes better at. 1630 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,680 That. But is there in a weird place 1631 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,800 right now where it's like, it's real, but it's fake? 1632 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,440 So I think Din also has that barrier to expressing herself. 1633 01:25:34,440 --> 01:25:38,560 But I think it's really good that Rose presses Din on this 1634 01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,600 because, like, this is an area of her character where, like, 1635 01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,920 Din should improve or should take the time to think, what 1636 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,680 does she want? Because I don't think Din really 1637 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,840 has ever asked herself that question until Rose keeps 1638 01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,120 pestering her about it, You know? 1639 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,080 And then Din comes to the conclusion, like Rose, I want 1640 01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:54,120 Rose. Like, that's what I want. 1641 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:55,920 I want her in my life. She makes me better. 1642 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,160 She makes me happy. She forces me to like take care 1643 01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,720 of myself and like give in to what I want and like. 1644 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,880 And I think that's good for Din to have somebody like Rose who's 1645 01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,280 like, you need to also put you first because you keep saying 1646 01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,440 that to everybody else. And that's kind of what Rose is 1647 01:26:08,440 --> 01:26:11,040 saying in this conversation. And she's like, and if we don't 1648 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,640 do this, it's going to cause resentment in our relationship. 1649 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,920 And I don't want that. And I like that Rose does that. 1650 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,120 It's very mature, especially coming from someone who's never 1651 01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:23,560 been in a relationship. Like the way Rose advocates for 1652 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,040 shaping their relationship is really mature. 1653 01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,160 Honestly it sounds like she has experience, which is pretty. 1654 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:32,880 Cool. Then Rosen didn't move on to app 1655 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,920 for the honeymoon. And so then we get the drunk 1656 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,880 wives thing, OK, And this goes down different than the show and 1657 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,560 I I honestly love it. OK, so then what starts in it's 1658 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,280 Chapter 9? So when Din Din is the first 1659 01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,400 one, Din comes home drunk after the business meeting and it's 1660 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:53,040 this very like. The way it goes down is so 1661 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,600 funny. OK, so once Rose gets drunk Dan 1662 01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:57,880 into their room. She gets fed up with. 1663 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,920 Dan's drunk ass and refuses to help her because Dan is being 1664 01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,080 stubborn and is basically. Like, no, Rose, I'll just go in 1665 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:04,720 another room, blah blah blah. You don't need to help me. 1666 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,560 And then she's like, Oh my God, didn't you obviously need help? 1667 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,160 You're allowing me to help you. Well, fuck you like. 1668 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,720 You're on your own. So then didn't drunkenly tries 1669 01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,800 to get up and then gets dizzy and falls. 1670 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,040 And then it cuts to Rose's thoughts. 1671 01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:18,680 Chef's kiss to the author. This is what Rose is thinking. 1672 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,960 If this was a drama. Everything would have happened 1673 01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,360 in slow motion, every second would stretch out dramatically. 1674 01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,320 But this was reality, and in reality it was not romantic at 1675 01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:31,400 all. So what actually happens in the 1676 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:32,720 novel? They tumble under the bed. 1677 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,960 Din falls on top of Rose and Rose thinks, Oh my God, is she 1678 01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:36,080 going to kiss? Me, if I'm going to let her 1679 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:36,480 kiss. Me. 1680 01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:39,040 Oh my God, this is romantic. But then din. 1681 01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,080 Just asks Rose if she can move because her arms are tired and 1682 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,400 then once she when she's off of Rose then just passes out the 1683 01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,600 bed. And then Rose thinks so in real 1684 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,840 life. Nothing actually happened. 1685 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,120 Now I love that this series, which is an actual drama, 1686 01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,080 decided to do the stereotypical TV drama stuff when it came to 1687 01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:00,680 these drunk shenanigans. Because it honestly. 1688 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,040 Makes this scene in the novel even funnier when she's like Oh 1689 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,600 my God is my life going to be like a drama? 1690 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,040 And then Rosa's like no. None of this shit does not 1691 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:11,400 happen in real life, by the way. It's just a mess in real life. 1692 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,520 And so I love that you have the scenes to compare where like, 1693 01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,960 the series was like, yeah, but we're a drama, so we're actually 1694 01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:19,760 going to do the stereotypical drama shit. 1695 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,840 Sorry, novel. But it's like a little nod to 1696 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,920 the novel because the novel was trying to make a joke about 1697 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,040 that. And the series is like, yeah, 1698 01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:26,960 we'll be the joke. So it's kind of funny. 1699 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:28,560 I actually do like that. I think it's hilarious. 1700 01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:32,520 OK, so then let's like. Continue and get on the other 1701 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,120 half of that. So then later when they're in 1702 01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:39,040 Chiang Mai and Rose is drunk, Rose drunkenly tries to actually 1703 01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,760 play out the drama scene in the in the novel by pushing Din onto 1704 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:43,920 the bed and falling on top of her. 1705 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:49,040 And in the scene, Rose is fueled by jealousy and advice from MO 1706 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,400 Dang, which is a winning combination. 1707 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,440 So Rose starts drunkenly rambling, but she needs to make 1708 01:28:55,440 --> 01:28:58,040 the first move and Den is so confused. 1709 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,360 And then Rose clarifies. I'm done with being jealous. 1710 01:29:01,440 --> 01:29:03,480 Why do all these women keep going after you? 1711 01:29:03,480 --> 01:29:04,920 You. Already have a wife, you have me 1712 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,040 and Den's like Rose. And then Rose says I will take 1713 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,480 the lead this time. She like yells it at Den and 1714 01:29:11,480 --> 01:29:13,680 then Rose she's just so aggressive. 1715 01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,640 It's so funny. And then she leans in. 1716 01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,480 And then Den Gay panics. And then Rose passes out. 1717 01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:22,080 Before anything happens. And then Din's inner monologue 1718 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:23,840 is everything to me, because Din it. 1719 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,200 Proves how self aware Din is of the ridiculous of this in real 1720 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,800 life. And Din thinks herself, she was 1721 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:35,960 just relieved because if, if it had happened, if Rose had kissed 1722 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:39,320 her while being this drunk, would she have been able to stop 1723 01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,400 herself and more. Importantly, would she have 1724 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:45,640 wanted to? And so I like that Din is like, 1725 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,920 that would have been wrong because she's drunk, but I don't 1726 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,280 know that I'd be able to control myself because Din has been 1727 01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,720 pining for Rose for 14 years, which is understandable. 1728 01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,520 So like Din is like ultimately relieved that Rose passed out 1729 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,280 before Rose could finish whatever the hell she was about 1730 01:29:58,280 --> 01:29:59,440 to do. Because Den's like, I don't 1731 01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:00,920 think I would have been able to control myself. 1732 01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,080 And normally I control myself and this was wrong. 1733 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,400 So I like that Din was self aware of like it's this. 1734 01:30:06,440 --> 01:30:09,560 Like while this scenario is presented as romantic and dramas 1735 01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:13,960 like it, it isn't always like Rose is not in a consentible 1736 01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,400 position. And like Dan's, like, I don't 1737 01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:20,240 know that I could have stopped myself because feelings, which 1738 01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:21,640 is a valid thing to be afraid of. 1739 01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,960 And it's after this moment here, these drunken shenanigans, that 1740 01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,320 when Din promises to show Rose her true feelings through her 1741 01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,720 actions and admits to herself that like, she hasn't been 1742 01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,120 faking this like Din does. Admit it to herself. 1743 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,720 And she's like, I, I may not be able to say I I care, but I will 1744 01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,600 show you as if she hasn't been showing her for 14 years, but 1745 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,720 like whatever then then a self aware, but not always self 1746 01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,040 aware. But something I love about the 1747 01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:51,480 novel and Rose in general is that Rose, while Rose is a 1748 01:30:51,480 --> 01:30:56,560 jealous person, she's aware that it's irrational, OK. 1749 01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,440 And she's aware of this and, and a self aware character. 1750 01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:06,000 And I do love this. So after the fire in the office 1751 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:10,560 where Din almost dies, that's when Rose runs to Din and then 1752 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,960 confesses that she's possessive of Din and gets jealous of her 1753 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:17,680 for real. Because quote, I just realized 1754 01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,880 it myself that I'm a jealous person. 1755 01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,440 So this is something is in the novel that wasn't in the series. 1756 01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,960 And I love this because again, Rose is self aware, OK. 1757 01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,640 And jealousy is something that comes up in in, you know, 1758 01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,280 relationships that can come up. It it's something that's played 1759 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:35,920 into pretty heavily in a lot of tiger love dramas as a as a plot 1760 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:40,040 point, as a cause for drama. It definitely comes up in the 1761 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,280 story a lot. But it it's kind of like the 1762 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:45,200 situation where Rose has never been in a relationship before, 1763 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,840 has never had feelings before and then starts feeling jealousy 1764 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,640 like for the first time when it comes to Din and like doesn't 1765 01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:52,440 know how to handle it. And I think that's a really 1766 01:31:52,440 --> 01:31:58,440 valid human experience. But Rose becomes aware of it and 1767 01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:01,200 then, like, deals with it. And I think that's what 1768 01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,880 separates the way this story is written from a lot of other 1769 01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:09,800 traumas that just have the jealousy the other girl, like, 1770 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,120 makes her stop being jealous. And then we just move on. 1771 01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:16,080 This has like, the processing of this emotion in the story that I 1772 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:19,280 enjoy. And Rose learns that she's the 1773 01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,240 jealous type. And she didn't know she was 1774 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,080 because she never had feelings for anybody before. 1775 01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,080 And I love that Rose, in the story, even after she's aware of 1776 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,680 it, like still feels the feeling because they're not 1777 01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,920 controllable. She feels it and knows this is 1778 01:32:32,920 --> 01:32:34,560 an irrational emotion she's having. 1779 01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:36,960 But emotions can't always be controlled. 1780 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,840 You just have to like, feel it while it's happening. 1781 01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:43,240 The thing that Rose can control and she learns she can control 1782 01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:48,080 is whether or not to act on her impulses when she's having the 1783 01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:51,520 jealous emotion. So in chapter 13, Rose explains 1784 01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,160 this to Din in the context of cow, because that's where this 1785 01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:58,480 like jealousy mostly pops up. And Rose says to Din quote, I 1786 01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:01,600 trust your words, Din, because Din's like, I don't feel that 1787 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:03,360 way about her. And Rose says, I trust what 1788 01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,480 you're saying to me, Din. I believe you. 1789 01:33:05,480 --> 01:33:09,520 That's what she's saying. But my heart just gets all 1790 01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,920 twisted up whenever I see a cow near you. 1791 01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,560 I can't control it. I don't even know why I feel 1792 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,280 this way. I hate it. 1793 01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:22,240 So I love that Rose says this. It's just such a mature thing to 1794 01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,720 say where she's basically saying like din, I feel jealous and it 1795 01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,440 has nothing to do with you. This is me. 1796 01:33:26,440 --> 01:33:29,760 I'm feeling this like and I I not that I don't trust you, I 1797 01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:31,760 don't trust the way. I just feel weird and I don't 1798 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,320 know why, and I hate that I feel this way. 1799 01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,960 Din like the dumb ass that she is, is like, no, I'm into it. 1800 01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:39,440 I love it. I love it because she's like, 1801 01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:42,920 that means you care. And then she's like saying, 1802 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,560 Rose, I'll help you control the feeling. 1803 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:45,960 Don't worry about it. I love you. 1804 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,520 That's what she does. And it's like, Din, that wasn't 1805 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,720 OK. And I think that does help Rose 1806 01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:52,520 because it's like, it is an insecurity thing. 1807 01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:57,160 But also like Din, Din's so funny sometimes the way she just 1808 01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,600 solves problems. It's just she's. 1809 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:01,200 All in all, the time is the thing. 1810 01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,600 OK. And then after Din says I love 1811 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,480 you. Like this is when Din and Rose 1812 01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:08,760 in the novel kiss for the first time. 1813 01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:14,360 And it's really sweet that like this is after Din gets shot, I 1814 01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:19,800 think. And then Din, what happens? 1815 01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:21,040 Din is the one that initiates it. 1816 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,280 And it's really like sweet and like romantic the way Din does 1817 01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:25,320 it. But then Rose gets real. 1818 01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,920 Thirsty real fast. And then accidentally like is 1819 01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:32,160 like getting handsy with Din and then like agitates the gunshot 1820 01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,280 wound basically on his body. And that ends this. 1821 01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,800 But like it's really sweet. And I like that that's their 1822 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,000 first kiss in the novel. It's a very like because it's a 1823 01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,760 very then thing like well, they have like this like they're 1824 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:43,720 modern women or whatever. They have this like old 1825 01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,880 fashioned, like old school, kind of like we were. 1826 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,560 She's the girl next. Door kind of there there's like 1827 01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,440 1000 tropes roped into one and they're all very old fashioned 1828 01:34:52,440 --> 01:34:57,160 classic romantic tropes built into Dinnen Rose and so it would 1829 01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,480 be that like I say. I love you then I kiss you kind 1830 01:34:59,480 --> 01:35:00,760 of thing. Although like they get married 1831 01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,400 first, then start dating. So there's there's also that, 1832 01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:09,560 which is pretty funny. OK, but on the on the topic of 1833 01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:14,320 the jealousy as particularly when it comes to cow, one thing 1834 01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,800 salmon does really well, it shows that human beings make 1835 01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:22,680 mistakes and making a mistake is not an end all be all type of 1836 01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:26,120 thing. People can either learn to 1837 01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,480 either learn from the mistake and be better or keep making the 1838 01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:32,680 same mistakes and never grow kind of thing. 1839 01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,800 And so she does have that play out with Rose. 1840 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:39,600 So one thing Rose regrets in the novel is the way she treats. 1841 01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,480 Cow. Especially when when she's 1842 01:35:41,480 --> 01:35:45,440 feeling jealous and gives into her jealousy and does things 1843 01:35:45,440 --> 01:35:48,880 like I have to prove that I'm her wife or I have to prove that 1844 01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,160 didn't mine that kind of stuff to make Cow back off. 1845 01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:58,720 And as Rose becomes more self aware of her jealousy and then 1846 01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,720 realize that she's the type of person that gets jealous, she 1847 01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:06,720 starts to regret the fact that she hurt Cow's feelings and 1848 01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:10,760 eventually apologizes for this, what she views as a mistake or 1849 01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:14,360 for being irrational or mature about it and things like that. 1850 01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:18,160 Like and well, I'll get into Cal later and like all of her stuff, 1851 01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,880 but like, I like that Rose goes on the journey of being like, 1852 01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,920 oh, I did, you know, I acted poorly in that situation, I 1853 01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:25,440 feel. Badly about it I've. 1854 01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:28,440 Learned she learns from it and then like grows into a better 1855 01:36:28,440 --> 01:36:29,240 person. And I do. 1856 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,440 I just like the fact that the author takes the time to have 1857 01:36:31,440 --> 01:36:34,200 her characters. When they make a mistake, they 1858 01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:38,160 make it, they reflect on it and it's a process for grows to like 1859 01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,560 really reflect that because that's how it works sometimes. 1860 01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,920 Like really. And then she ultimately like 1861 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:47,040 apologizes atones and like grows and moves on. 1862 01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,160 And that's human growth. And I like that it's really 1863 01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:53,120 embedded in multiple characters and like Rose is one of the big 1864 01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,280 ones, Cow is the other one. And I will get into Cow 1865 01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:57,480 separately once we get through the dinner and stuff. 1866 01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:05,400 So then Din and Rose after that start dating for real, and Din 1867 01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:11,160 asking out Rose was one of the biggest hot messes in the whole. 1868 01:37:11,440 --> 01:37:13,160 The whole story. So. 1869 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,680 She's cuz she's a mess. So then OK so they get into a 1870 01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:21,320 fight for where Rose is jealous of cow and Din tries to clear it 1871 01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:24,960 up and telling Rose like she's like no no I I like you though I 1872 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:26,960 really like you. And Rosa's hurt and doesn't 1873 01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,480 believe it because like she's feeling jealous and like doesn't 1874 01:37:29,480 --> 01:37:31,240 know what to do with the feelings and hates that she's 1875 01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:33,640 feeling them. So then Din hugs her and asks 1876 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,760 asks Rose. This is actually the ask out is 1877 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,640 Rose's salt because she asks. Rose, do you want me to be 1878 01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:40,000 honest? And Rose is like, yes. 1879 01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:44,760 And then Din says I want a wife and Rose doesn't say anything. 1880 01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:48,880 So then dense, dense. Do you wonder my real life Rose? 1881 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:50,400 And it's like, what the fuck, Dan? 1882 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,320 Like it's like it's cute, but like what? 1883 01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,680 Like what is she supposed to say to these weird things you're 1884 01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:59,240 constantly saying to her like. All the time, OK. 1885 01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:05,480 She's so awkward and the dialogue, it's cute. 1886 01:38:05,480 --> 01:38:09,680 Like Rosa's like what the fuck? And but like Dan explains, the 1887 01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:13,000 reason she says that is she's like, well, I just, I wanted you 1888 01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:17,480 to know how serious I was. So it's not that I. 1889 01:38:17,480 --> 01:38:20,320 Like you. It's like, I like you so much 1890 01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:23,120 that I'm thinking about marrying you for real. 1891 01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:24,640 Like that's what Dan was trying to say. 1892 01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,920 But that just comes out as like, let's be married for real. 1893 01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:30,560 And it's like Dan. Yes, she's terrible with words 1894 01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:34,000 and it causes problems. But it's it's like it comes from 1895 01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:37,080 a sweet. Place like it really does like 1896 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,120 that was. Very sweet what she was trying 1897 01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,680 to do. And like trying is the keyword 1898 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:49,080 she's trying. And so eventually they agree to 1899 01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:53,680 start with dating or marriage like normal people. 1900 01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:58,000 And what's really? Cute is that after this they 1901 01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,080 decided to do this the. Cousins, then just. 1902 01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,720 Collectively decide to start calling Rose the cousin in law, 1903 01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,400 which is just the fucking cutest thing ever. 1904 01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:13,080 All right, now we we get in, then we transition after this 1905 01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:17,560 into the cow's redemption arc and we get into her the big 1906 01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,200 reveal that she's the mole. She's. 1907 01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:20,480 The villain, all that kind of stuff. 1908 01:39:20,480 --> 01:39:23,680 Part of the villain story. And honestly, when it comes to 1909 01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:27,720 her character arc in this novel, I'm actually not mad at the her 1910 01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:29,640 character, the fact that she's in redemption arc because the 1911 01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:33,120 way Salman wrote it was fucking epic and really great. 1912 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:38,760 Because what the author did is she or they humanized Cow as a 1913 01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:43,120 person that acted on her worst impulse, felt guilty about it, 1914 01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,480 realized she made a huge mistake and then made amends for it. 1915 01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,560 Like people make mistakes and they can choose to be better or 1916 01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,080 worse based on the mistake. Like making mistakes not this 1917 01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:54,920 end all be all black and white thing. 1918 01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:58,600 Actually it can be a learning opportunity even when your 1919 01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:02,720 mistake causes horrible harm. And that's kind of what the 1920 01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:04,400 author is going for and I actually like that. 1921 01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:11,720 So the shitty part is that like Cow is aware that didn't fully 1922 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,160 trusted her which makes the betrayal. 1923 01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:17,960 All that more painful because like Din saw her as a sister 1924 01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,280 because they basically kind of grew up together in a similar 1925 01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:24,120 way. Although like, she was an 1926 01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:26,480 employee on Din's farm. Well, not an employee. 1927 01:40:26,480 --> 01:40:30,640 Her father was employed by Din's father to like work at the farm. 1928 01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:34,160 And like Din's father made sure that Kel went to school and he 1929 01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,800 was like, treated her as like a surrogate daughter in a way. 1930 01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:41,360 And so they kind of grew up as siblings as the thing and Cal 1931 01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:44,280 harbored a crush on Din for about 10 years. 1932 01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,560 And she in her mind was waiting for Din to quote, turn around 1933 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:52,200 and see that she was the one that's always been right behind 1934 01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:53,600 Din. Like waiting for her to turn 1935 01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:55,040 around. Like it's recently I have this 1936 01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:56,520 one sided crush on you. I'm just going to wait for you 1937 01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,000 to realize that like I've always been there for you. 1938 01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,040 I'm always right by you. Like see me, I've always I've 1939 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,000 just been with you the whole time kind of thing. 1940 01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,320 But then just saw her as a sister and like it didn't mind. 1941 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,920 Family sticks together. And so like, that never clicked. 1942 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:15,280 And then from Cow's point of view that Rose comes back and 1943 01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:20,160 then Rose is the one that like steals Din from her and in a way 1944 01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:26,200 sours Cow's love for Din. And it turned Cow's love turns 1945 01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:29,960 into obsession, possession, which is like the toxic version 1946 01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,360 of like, quote love. There's like a fine line between 1947 01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,040 those love and like possession and obsession. 1948 01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,960 And they very much mean different things for the person 1949 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:43,840 feeling whatever that is. So then feeling all of that Cow 1950 01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:47,480 works on her, gives into her worst impulse, which is to team 1951 01:41:47,480 --> 01:41:49,280 up with the villain, which is Wasu. 1952 01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:51,240 And it's eventual. It doesn't happen right away. 1953 01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,960 Like he offers her to like to get in on what he has. 1954 01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,920 And she says no at first. But then Rose is the tipping 1955 01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:01,040 point really. And The thing is that they're, 1956 01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,760 you know, he, he presents it as like, well, you know, like our 1957 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,280 interests align. Like he wants Rose because he 1958 01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:08,960 wants what Rose's assets. And then she's like. 1959 01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,800 Once I have. Rose Din can't have her and then 1960 01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:16,880 you can have Din and then Cow eventually concedes to this and 1961 01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,720 says under one condition, will I help you and be the mole? 1962 01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:23,080 It's if you don't harm Din, because I want Din at the. 1963 01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:27,800 End of this. But then Wassu, probably being 1964 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,520 the character that gives into his worst impulses the most, 1965 01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:32,680 eventually hires a hitman to kill Din. 1966 01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:36,200 And it doesn't work. But Din is harmed by the bullet 1967 01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:39,400 from the hitman. So that's Cow's kind of breaking 1968 01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:46,040 point and when it comes to him. But then this kind of keeps 1969 01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:49,040 going and then eventually comes out that she's, you know, she 1970 01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:53,800 sets up Din and all this kind of stuff and in front of Din 1971 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,640 betrays Din. And even when Cow is actively 1972 01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:01,440 betraying her, Din consistently holds on to hope that Cow will 1973 01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:03,440 do the right thing. Like Cow will realize she made a 1974 01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:05,480 mistake and then choose to do the right thing. 1975 01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:12,560 And the first time Cow doesn't like, Cow actively betrays Din, 1976 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,000 and it causes this irreversible damage to their relationship. 1977 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,920 And Din recognizes that she's like, there is no coming back 1978 01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,240 from this for us. There is a way to move forward, 1979 01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,800 but it will never our relationship will never be what 1980 01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,160 it once was. We will never be sisters the way 1981 01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:32,960 we were kind of thing. But cow similar to like Rose, 1982 01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,720 although in a much extreme, more a more extreme form, does go in 1983 01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:42,640 this journey to like recognize what she did and then does do 1984 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,400 the right thing. And it's because of cow. 1985 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,280 Cow like because was who trusted. 1986 01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,920 Her. And gave her she had inside 1987 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:52,640 information to what he was doing and gave it to mom and did like 1988 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:53,640 anonymous. Quote. 1989 01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:58,200 Anonymously and is the reason that they they get him in the 1990 01:43:58,200 --> 01:44:00,240 end, it was because of her like without her, they couldn't have 1991 01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:03,840 done it. And then she does like over time 1992 01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,400 of a period of many years, she does make amends and then 1993 01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:11,400 apologizes to like Din and Rose and they kind of like move on 1994 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:16,160 and it's never the same, but they, they have closure, you 1995 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:17,920 know, healthy communication closure. 1996 01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:22,960 And I, I, I like this redemption arc from the author because it 1997 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,760 feels earned. It feels human is the other 1998 01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:29,120 thing, not that like things need to be earned, you know, but like 1999 01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,080 narratively speaking is what I mean. 2000 01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:34,960 And it just feels like a very human thing. 2001 01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,160 She just gave it to her emotions, was blinded by the 2002 01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:40,080 emotions. You know, she became the bully. 2003 01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,480 She didn't want to be like Dan's father warned and like this is 2004 01:44:43,480 --> 01:44:46,080 kind of like can happen to people. 2005 01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,840 And I just like that she it took her a long time and she made the 2006 01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:53,200 amends and like stayed away and like did all the things And it 2007 01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:55,840 was a good, well written redemption arc, not a out of 2008 01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,000 nowhere unbelievable redemption arc. 2009 01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:06,720 It felt natural, all right. And with this like, toxic love 2010 01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:10,600 betrayal kind of situation with Wasu and Cow, I did notice 2011 01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:14,640 something interesting when kind of looking at their storylines. 2012 01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:20,000 And I think that the two of them are the masculine and feminine 2013 01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,160 manifestation of feeling entitled to another person. 2014 01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:26,440 And what I mean by that is like, let's kind of breakdown what 2015 01:45:26,440 --> 01:45:29,760 they were doing. So Wassu obviously the male 2016 01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:34,240 figure in the situation embodies the masculine concept of like 2017 01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:36,960 male entitlement to other people. 2018 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:42,040 So he feels entitled to Rose due to quote tradition which is AKA 2019 01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:46,960 the family verbal deal. Because wife is property of 2020 01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:50,320 husband. He doesn't want Rose the person. 2021 01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:55,640 He wants her assets, her land, her money, her body and when she 2022 01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:58,720 refuses him, he tries to take Rose by force because of 2023 01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:03,320 violence is male power right? And then contrast that to Cow 2024 01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:05,320 OK, who goes on a similar journey. 2025 01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:09,440 But she wants Din, right? So Cal patiently waits 10 years 2026 01:46:09,440 --> 01:46:13,560 for Din to quote see her and all the time plays the role of Din's 2027 01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:16,200 faithful assistant. Like her work Wife. 2028 01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:20,960 OK, emphasis on wife. And when Din chooses Rose, Cal 2029 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:24,920 views it as Din rejecting her, not choosing Rose. 2030 01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:29,480 Not just that, she chose Rose, she rejected Cal and instead of 2031 01:46:29,480 --> 01:46:32,360 accepting Din as a person with her own autonomy, Cow tries to 2032 01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:34,880 get rid of Rose through manipulation. 2033 01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,880 And manipulation is feminine power. 2034 01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:42,240 Because historically in matriarchy women don't have 2035 01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,480 positions of power. They manipulate people in power 2036 01:46:45,480 --> 01:46:48,160 because that's how they get power, because they can't be 2037 01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:48,840 the. Figurehead. 2038 01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,400 By law. So Cow then drives a wedge 2039 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:58,120 between Rose and Din by playing in Rose's jealousy and by using 2040 01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:01,160 Wasu, the man in power, to get what she wanted. 2041 01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:02,760 Which was rose out of the picture. 2042 01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,040 So I think it's really interesting how they kind of 2043 01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:08,120 kind of ultimately want the same thing with the opposite person, 2044 01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:11,600 the, you know, Rose versus Din. And then the way they approach 2045 01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,840 it is a masculine energy, feminine energy driven thing. 2046 01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:16,480 So that was interesting in the way that was written. 2047 01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,040 Not saying any of that was good, like good behavior, but it was 2048 01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:20,840 an interesting comparison on how they went about that. 2049 01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,480 All right, so in continuing with Rosendin's story. 2050 01:47:25,480 --> 01:47:28,640 So then Roses didn't get separated for a second time. 2051 01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:33,840 So after all the farm drama is done, when Wasu gets arrested, 2052 01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:37,000 Tipicorin's coming out of the coma and getting better, Rose 2053 01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:40,600 decides to be an adult and take control of big decisions. 2054 01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,480 And so when her father's in the hospital, the doctors are like, 2055 01:47:43,480 --> 01:47:45,440 yeah, he's recovering, but it's slower than we like. 2056 01:47:45,440 --> 01:47:48,120 You should probably send him to Bangkok because you got money. 2057 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:49,920 There are better rehab centers there. 2058 01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:52,160 And Rosa's like, well, I need to talk to Dan. 2059 01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:55,480 And then Cow's in the hospital and Dan's with her because 2060 01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,760 that's her friend. And Rosa's like, I don't want to 2061 01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:00,560 bother Dan or like make the decision with Dan. 2062 01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,560 I'm going to make the decision myself because I'm a, I'm a 2063 01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,120 fucking adult. I can take charge. 2064 01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:06,720 And she does. So she decides to go to Bangkok 2065 01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:10,560 with her dad while he recovers. And so she doesn't tell Dan, 2066 01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:12,680 which is crazy. She's like mom, I'll tell her 2067 01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:14,600 later or whatever. And then mom tells Dan, she says 2068 01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:18,720 Dom's not an idiot. And then Din shows up and I was 2069 01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:19,720 like, Rose what? Do you mean you didn't? 2070 01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:21,080 You didn't. Tell me you were leaving, which 2071 01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,320 was? Not adult like but there we are. 2072 01:48:23,480 --> 01:48:26,880 But it was funny at. Least the scene so Rose try and 2073 01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:30,600 didn't have this conversation and about this and didn't his 2074 01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,600 understanding of it and immediately promises I'll wait 2075 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:35,480 for you to come back. It's fine because you're going 2076 01:48:35,480 --> 01:48:37,040 to come back. You're a farm, you know, come 2077 01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:38,840 back to the farm. Did Rose explains that. 2078 01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:44,640 And Rose insists, like, listen, we need to take this time that 2079 01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:48,320 we're going to be apart to reflect on the way we feel for 2080 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:51,120 real, because Rose is a rational person. 2081 01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,640 And this conversation is like, basically everything that just 2082 01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:55,800 happened between us went from zero to 100. 2083 01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:59,200 It was way too fucking fast. OK, I said hi, nice to see you 2084 01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:00,160 again. Next thing I know, we're 2085 01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:01,720 married. Like it was crazy. 2086 01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,680 There's guns. Like, this was crazy. 2087 01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:07,680 And Rose is basically torn between all of this because 2088 01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,680 she's like, I don't know if my feelings are like real or it was 2089 01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:12,720 like situational because like there was. 2090 01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:15,760 Like life and death stuff. Going on and I didn't want to 2091 01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:18,080 lose you because of that or because I love you. 2092 01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:21,040 And like we were fake married and had to pretend we were 2093 01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:22,360 married. And she's like, I need to sort 2094 01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:24,800 out what's real and what was like circumstantial because like 2095 01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,760 we just went through insane situations that would trauma 2096 01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,920 bond any normal pair of people. So like, were we trauma bonded 2097 01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:33,160 or do we really love each other? And that's what and I like that 2098 01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:35,400 Rose thinks about that and was like, if we're going to do this 2099 01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,760 for real, I'm going to make sure it's real like for both of us 2100 01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:40,480 and not this like born of circumstance kind of thing. 2101 01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,080 And I love. Love, love, love. 2102 01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:46,520 That they're separated not for drama. 2103 01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:48,600 They are separated to reflect on their. 2104 01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,440 Feelings. Like, characters aren't always 2105 01:49:51,440 --> 01:49:56,600 given time to process things and stories because time or, you 2106 01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:57,920 know, time is usually the big one. 2107 01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:00,520 But this is such an important part of human growth. 2108 01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,360 And so I like that the author was like, no, no, no. 2109 01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:05,200 They need to really, like, think about this and come to their own 2110 01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,880 conclusions and also get to know each other. 2111 01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:11,920 So like Din comes and sees Rose basically once a once a week. 2112 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:14,760 It's insane how Rose didn't something happens with the the 2113 01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:16,480 dad wakes up and he's like he gets better. 2114 01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:18,600 And he's like, Din, I need to talk to you about something. 2115 01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:22,160 Like Din drives from wherever the hell she is to it takes her 2116 01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:23,400 hours. She's like, I'm here, what 2117 01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,200 happened? He's like I what she like drove 2118 01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:28,760 straight to Bangkok. And then starts doing that on a 2119 01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:30,160 weekly. Basis to see Rose. 2120 01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,520 Because Din is like the ultimate devoted partner. 2121 01:50:34,480 --> 01:50:36,880 And then they get to they get to they like date for real again 2122 01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:39,440 and like get to like know each other and like talk and like 2123 01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:42,920 form an actual. Relationship which is cute. 2124 01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:46,280 And then it ultimately ends with Din and Rose's second marriage 2125 01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:49,240 and when Rose comes back to the farm. 2126 01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:52,840 And so Din's second proposal was like the one of the sweetest 2127 01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:57,480 things ever. She basically, like creates a 2128 01:50:57,480 --> 01:51:01,920 path of flower petals and Rose sees them and recognizes that 2129 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,840 she's like, oh, when we were kids, Din used to like, take my 2130 01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:06,400 teddy bear. We'd play hide and seek and she 2131 01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:09,160 would hide the teddy bear and then like lead Rose to the teddy 2132 01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:10,600 bear with like, flower petal trails. 2133 01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:12,640 And so she does a flower petal trail. 2134 01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:14,920 And Rose is like, I'm expecting to see my teddy bear at the end 2135 01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:17,080 of this trail, but it's just Din standing there. 2136 01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,000 And Din is like, do you know what this place is? 2137 01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:23,000 And Rose is like, this is where we first met. 2138 01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:25,400 And so she brings her to the where they first met. 2139 01:51:25,440 --> 01:51:31,120 And then Din explains like our love is not this 2 two-month 2140 01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:32,960 ordeal. All of that shit happened to two 2141 01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:34,840 months and I didn't have a timeline until. 2142 01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:36,760 Din says this at the end. And I was like what the fuck? 2143 01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:39,640 That was two months. That was an insane two months, 2144 01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:40,880 OK? Two months. 2145 01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:43,560 OK, Poor Rose. And she's like. 2146 01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,280 Our love is not two months in the making. 2147 01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,560 It's this has been a 20 year thing that's been going on 2148 01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,440 between the two of us. Just let me know. 2149 01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:55,200 And then Din proposes with like she presents Rose her teddy bear 2150 01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:57,840 and the teddy bear is wearing a wedding dress and has like the 2151 01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:00,240 ring on a necklace. And it's like the fucking 2152 01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:04,800 cutest, most thoughtful thing. And it just shows how much Din 2153 01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,680 was pining for decades. But it's. 2154 01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:10,520 So cute and. Personal and sweet, the way she 2155 01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:13,040 does it. And it honestly worked out 2156 01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,200 because their second wedding, they basically just had their 2157 01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,840 family there and like, you know, found family and blood 2158 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:21,000 relatives. And so Rose was very happy. 2159 01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:22,920 She's like, I'm having my dad who really loves me, could 2160 01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,040 actually be at my wedding because like, if we had just 2161 01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:26,840 gone with a fake wedding, he wouldn't have been there. 2162 01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:28,880 So it was better that they did it. 2163 01:52:30,440 --> 01:52:32,760 And then one of my other favorite moments, mom at the end 2164 01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,760 tries to take credit for the wedding and for their getting 2165 01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,080 married. She's like, yeah, I'm glad we're 2166 01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,760 all here today because of me And the cousins are like, really? 2167 01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,280 Did you're the one trying to take credit for them getting 2168 01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:43,400 married? You're insane. 2169 01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,960 I mean, she's not wrong in a way. 2170 01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:49,920 She did instigate. They all did. 2171 01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:52,240 Because sometimes it. Takes a village to get the 2172 01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:56,480 lesbians together. And then the absolute iconic. 2173 01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:01,280 Iconic moment I cannot wait to see in the series is the flower. 2174 01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:05,360 Toss this was. So fucking funny. 2175 01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,600 So basically somebody goes up the Rose and like rose, you got 2176 01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:10,560 to toss the flowers. MO Dang's right in the front 2177 01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:13,120 waiting for you. She wants to get married. 2178 01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,160 She has like. A guy she's interested in at 2179 01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:16,720 this point, who she marries later. 2180 01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:19,240 But anyway, so MO dang's up in front and then. 2181 01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:22,480 It starts with. Moden yelling hey wow, why don't 2182 01:53:22,480 --> 01:53:25,440 you knock that out of my hands? I almost caught it and then so 2183 01:53:25,480 --> 01:53:28,840 now locks the mom comes in, knocks the flowers away from 2184 01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:32,720 Moden's outstretched hands and like redirects the flowers into 2185 01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:36,160 Nom's lap because mom's just sitting there talking about 2186 01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:37,080 business. Not. 2187 01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:40,240 Fucking paying attention to. Anything in life because that's 2188 01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:44,240 her. And then Din, she doesn't pay 2189 01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,840 digital Din's like congratulations in advance. 2190 01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:53,880 And it's so fucking funny because all of us player so like 2191 01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:56,880 Islam, the matchmaker of the family like she is. 2192 01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,960 But I just thought it was really a clever way for the author to 2193 01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:02,360 be like she's. Next. 2194 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:05,200 Her novels next get Ready for the Water because it's going to 2195 01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:07,400 be a fucking hot mess because she's the next one that's going 2196 01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:08,960 to get married. So I thought it was cute 2197 01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:13,640 marketing from the author to be like next time up on the four. 2198 01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:18,120 It was just great and super chaotic and fucking hilarious. 2199 01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,320 I don't know where Phi was in that, so I'm really curious. 2200 01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,320 To see in the series. But I imagine if I was hiding 2201 01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:24,680 about a. Tree because she doesn't want 2202 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:26,760 anything with love now. Mom was kind. 2203 01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:29,360 Of like no mom was there it's like yeah, maybe I'll 2204 01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:32,040 participate and she's like Nah, going to get us enough. 2205 01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:34,400 Decided to be an asshole instead, just. 2206 01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:36,160 Like I'm I'm the. Reason they're here. 2207 01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:37,520 I could be the reason she's nice. 2208 01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:41,320 Poor mode eggs like I don't want to be like. 2209 01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:44,520 Nobody on that flour toss was on the same page and I just think 2210 01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:47,040 it's hilarious. All right. 2211 01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:48,840 And then just to wrap up the story. 2212 01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:51,280 So last thing is just a quick overview of the special. 2213 01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:52,760 Chapters because I don't know how much the. 2214 01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:54,560 Series will get into this, but there's some huge. 2215 01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:57,680 Stuff that happens in there. So after the story ends, 2216 01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:02,520 basically Din and Rose merge the farms together and learn how to 2217 01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:04,920 manage it together. So basically Din is still like 2218 01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:07,800 the head manager of everything. And then Rose learns to become 2219 01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,560 Din's assistant and like manage the farm with her. 2220 01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:14,080 And so they spend a lot of like like long hours like learning. 2221 01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:17,160 And like Rose learns how to be do whatever cow was doing 2222 01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:20,040 essentially like as the assistant and it takes her a 2223 01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:22,040 while and didn't a super patient about it. 2224 01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:26,800 And Rose also learns that Din is not opposed to having sex in the 2225 01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:28,560 office because that was actually a pretty funny scene. 2226 01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,760 Rose is like this is your place. Of work Din. 2227 01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:32,000 Din is like, it's our place of work. 2228 01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:38,400 I think she's ridiculous. Rose and Din then eventually 2229 01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:42,560 start discussing whether or not they want kids, which was cute. 2230 01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:45,080 And they basically come to this mutual decision together that 2231 01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:48,560 like, yes, they do want to have a kid at some point, but it's 2232 01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:49,920 when they're ready, like they don't need to. 2233 01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:51,520 And it's like, we don't need to be pressured into this. 2234 01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:55,160 Like we can take our time and when we're ready, we'll do it. 2235 01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:58,360 And the the most impatient person who wants den and rose 2236 01:55:58,360 --> 01:55:59,160 to. Have a baby is. 2237 01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:02,160 Phi, who's constantly. Annoying them about it and at 2238 01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:05,760 one part Den says to Rose. My other favorite deadline Den's 2239 01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:08,760 like As for five, she keeps bugging us about having a baby. 2240 01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:09,640 You can. Just tell her to. 2241 01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:12,600 Have one of her own like she yells it because she's pissed 2242 01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:16,000 off and so annoyed with her cousin but like the people 2243 01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:19,080 person who's like I'll love is like can you guys have a baby 2244 01:56:19,080 --> 01:56:21,120 already like every 5 minutes and Jen's like can. 2245 01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:22,400 You tell her to have her own fucking. 2246 01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:26,880 Baby, leave us alone. OK, but then. 2247 01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:29,920 Five years later, five years until their marriage, they the 2248 01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,400 first niece, the next generation is born. 2249 01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:36,200 And so Din and Rose have a girl and her name is Daisy. 2250 01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,880 And it was like a Co parenting situation where Rose gave birth 2251 01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:43,040 but Din was the egg donor. So it's kind of like their baby. 2252 01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,920 And at this stage, MO Dang is married. 2253 01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:50,880 And has a daughter, Modnoy, who's becomes. 2254 01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:53,200 Friends with Daisy. And it's really cute. 2255 01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:56,200 So it's like, again, the cycle keeps continuing. 2256 01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:59,040 And the niece is very, very. Spoiled by the cousins, 2257 01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,080 particularly Phi. Like Phi is like I need to be 2258 01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:03,000 her number one. Like she's just obsessed with 2259 01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:05,200 Rose. This is just a manifestation. 2260 01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:08,640 It's continuing, which is so cute and sweet and just. 2261 01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:11,080 I love it. I love the story. 2262 01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:13,960 I really loved Rose and Dan. They were so such a romantic 2263 01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:15,600 couple. They had just first of all, 2264 01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:17,760 fake. Dating fake marriages like I 2265 01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,240 will never I am a sucker for that trope. 2266 01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:23,640 It just leads to so many fun inner monologues of just like 2267 01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:29,440 what's real, what isn't. And Rose and Dan had such as 2268 01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:34,320 like an epic love story that spanned decades and. 2269 01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:38,480 I like the way it really unfolded, the way they realized 2270 01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:43,960 it unrealized things had they really work together and became 2271 01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:45,880 equals in the end. And I really enjoyed their 2272 01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:47,920 story. And just like I mentioned, I 2273 01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:50,440 didn't expect this story. I expected to be like sweeping 2274 01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,480 and romantic because like they kind of have those tropes going 2275 01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:53,720 on. I didn't expect it to be as 2276 01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:57,680 violent and funny as it was. And so I was very surprised 2277 01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:02,280 about how balanced this story was in terms of romance, action, 2278 01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:04,680 and like comedy. It was really it had everything. 2279 01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:07,360 And I'm really, really digging this author. 2280 01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:10,040 Like I said, this was my first novel by Salmon and she's just 2281 01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:13,240 is great at characterizing. And so I'm very excited to 2282 01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,680 finish the four elements and potentially read other. 2283 01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:18,400 Things that she's written because I really like the story 2284 01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:19,800 a lot. I thought it was great. 2285 01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:24,240 And so to really quickly wrap this up, first I'll start with 2286 01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:26,680 the Big Gay Energy award. So this is an element of the 2287 01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:30,360 story that I thought exemplified Big Gay Energy. 2288 01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:34,880 And so this is a scene I didn't talk about, but this is when's 2289 01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,120 my award. So after their second wedding, 2290 01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:41,360 when they finally are having their honeymoon evening or alone 2291 01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:44,720 or whatever den is immediately thirsty the man they get behind 2292 01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,280 a closed door OK and like starts furiously making out with Rose 2293 01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:49,440 like up against the wall. And then Rose is suddenly like 2294 01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:51,400 where has this den been? This is a whole. 2295 01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:53,840 Different part of who did I just marry because like, what are you 2296 01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:55,240 doing? You've never been this like 2297 01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,840 aggressive ever. And she teases den about it 2298 01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:00,920 because like roses anyway, she teases den about it. 2299 01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:05,000 And then Den says, basically, I've been so patient this whole. 2300 01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:08,800 Fucking day because I love that Den gets really impatient the 2301 01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:11,360 second time they get married and it's like, can we just have sex 2302 01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,360 now? It's just really funny and Den 2303 01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:18,800 gets all suave and like smooth talking weirdly in the scene. 2304 01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,680 And it's just it's very big energy from Den who is just been 2305 01:59:21,680 --> 01:59:24,680 an awkward disaster for like 300 pages. 2306 01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:29,640 So I that gets it for me. My Taylor Swift song that I 2307 01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,000 think perfectly encapsulates the earth. 2308 01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:38,000 The story is love story because love story, it's a childhood 2309 01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:41,800 friends to lovers kind of story that has like drama in it that 2310 01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:44,840 doesn't 100% lineup, but there are elements that line up about 2311 01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:46,800 this. So we were both young when I 2312 01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:48,000 first saw you. So there's the. 2313 01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:53,120 Childhood din and rose thing and then the marry me Juliet you'll 2314 01:59:53,120 --> 01:59:55,840 never have to be alone that's Dan welcoming rose into the 2315 01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:59,120 family and I talked to your dad go pick out a white dress this 2316 01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:02,800 is Dan asking him doing the. Chivalrous boyfriend thing 2317 02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:04,960 asking Tipicorin to permission to marry a. 2318 02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:06,200 Rose. So I thought that song. 2319 02:00:06,200 --> 02:00:10,600 Really encapsulated it. And yeah, I think that's all I 2320 02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:13,120 got for you for the Earth. It was a lot, but it's a 2321 02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:15,680 phenomenal story. I really, really loved it. 2322 02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:18,200 I'm very excited to continue reading The four elements. 2323 02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:22,040 I will be reading The Water Closer to the Water actually 2324 02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:25,720 airing, so it's going to be a while in between now and then. 2325 02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:28,440 I will be doing a book club on Harmony Secret because Caitlin 2326 02:00:28,440 --> 02:00:31,520 and I are going to be doing a discussion about it and about 2327 02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:33,160 the series. And then I'll talk about the 2328 02:00:33,160 --> 02:00:36,480 book because honestly, I loved that book. 2329 02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:39,000 It was it complements the series. 2330 02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:42,920 It doesn't follow it as closely as like the Four Elements series 2331 02:00:42,920 --> 02:00:44,560 and novel, but there's like pros and. 2332 02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:45,920 You know there's. Like not pros and guys, but 2333 02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:48,240 there's like differences in similarities that I'll talk 2334 02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:49,800 about. Like what I liked and didn't 2335 02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:52,480 like, mostly liked when it came to the novel. 2336 02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:54,960 So that'll be up for book club next. 2337 02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:57,200 If you guys like the book club, if you made it this far, thank 2338 02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:59,840 you very much for joining me on the story. 2339 02:00:59,840 --> 02:01:01,640 Let me know what you thought about the novel. 2340 02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:05,200 You can compare it to the show maybe if you've already seen the 2341 02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:06,680 entire series. Let me know if there's anything 2342 02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:08,520 I missed because like I I did this early. 2343 02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:11,960 So if there's anything happens in episode 8 and seven that you 2344 02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:16,080 want to talk about, if you have any suggestions for book clubs, 2345 02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:19,080 please let me know because I really enjoyed doing them and so 2346 02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:21,480 hopefully we can talk about more of them. 2347 02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:23,600 So thank you for coming along the journey. 2348 02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:27,400 And until next time, hydrate for lesbian Jesus and get up all 2349 02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:29,560 over the place. Bye. 2350 02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:42,760 And with that, we've been big gay energy. 2351 02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:45,640 Thank you for listening. 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