Hello and welcome to Big Gay Energy.
I'm Bree. I'm Theora.
And I'm Caitlin. Come along with us while we dive
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Representation matters, and we're here to talk about it.
Welcome back to Big Gay Energy in this episode.
You will be watching the second episode of Heart Stopper, not
Heartbreaker. And by we for those who are
listening to audio only, Caitlyn means me, her and her dog
Brooklyn, that Caitlyn is currently petting like a
supervillain. So if you want the visual,
please hop on over to YouTube slash.
Page while you're at it. Yes, please.
Do. All right, so the three of us
are gonna get into hard stop. I need to do a disclaimer first.
If you're not watching, my dog is in a wrap.
Not like a burrito wrap, but like.
We're not eating animals on this podcast.
At least not live ones. No.
Yeah, so Brooklyn is literally in a a swaddling wrap meant for
a toddler. That's like being held against
Galen, and she's living her best.
I promise she loves it, like she will fall asleep eventually and
also like, come on. You could either watch it for
our reactions, watch it for our heart stopper slash
heartbreaker, or watch it for this cuteness.
Look at this face. She's really confused, OK?
She's almost as cute as Charlie and Nick, right?
Do you want my professional opinion?
My opinion as my dog's owner? Maybe.
Don't answer that, Caitlin. OK, cool.
You're too biased. You're too close to the
situation. The dog's literally attached to
you. We have the same humor.
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
And with that, would you like to do a countdown?
Theora, can you shoot me so I can't see.
This I. Can't see the episode.
I have to. Literally blind react.
I can't. Well, let me watch it.
To get into the tab I also played it.
So though I have to get back to the Netflix, the new thing.
We're obviously not professionals.
No, you've only been doing this for a year and a half.
Not this exact thing, so like, kudos to you, it's not easy.
Oh, there you are this episode. Of heart stopper is called Crush
Crush. Oh, I always remind me of the
Paramore song, which I'm sure you don't remember.
No. It's OK.
I don't even know if I know a Paramour song.
I have to There's there, there. On Since We Talked About Glee
last week, Lea Michele did sing Only exception.
That's the one I know. Yeah, yeah.
So I know you know that one. Yeah, look, I know the actual
version of that. Yeah.
So that was when I was like, in middle school.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's about right. All right.
So for those listening at home that want to watch along with
us. Queue up your.
Netflix for episode two of Heart Stuff.
We're gonna, we're gonna press play in 321 play.
Damn it, Caitlin. I know you got it.
I saw the mouse and I was like, it's nowhere near.
Anyway. On the screen, cuz that's a
thing. My brother used to play the well
I used to be. Delatable.
That's what that reminded me of. I'm over here.
Is there a dog? Where's the dog showing up?
OK, see Cat energy called the retriever energy.
Even the show knows that. I think the dog is with him.
Go back to the dog. I'm.
I'm sorry. Yes, he's.
He'll be more dog. Caitlyn.
We have to get Brooklyn's reaction.
He's. So gross he's.
Looking gas, lady. Charlie.
He's looking at us. What a weirdo.
He's such a loser. That's not a nice opening.
What does that mean? His little heart gets.
Crushed. I don't want that to happen.
Has a double meaning. Yeah, I.
Got it. Gay panic.
I just. Say, are you feeling OK?
Gay panic? On.
The Street SU and that needs to be our next sticker, Caitlin Gay
Panic is. That even.
Your We have the dusty stick. You mean emoji?
I thought I was gonna, like, literally make a sticker note on
our. Website too.
Should I make a? Dusty stick sticker too.
And just have no explanation for it.
Yes. No, I love the Dusty stick.
You don't know what we're talking about.
Please go to the list of our several People Are Typing
episodes. As of this moment, the OR and I
are the only people who know what dusty stick means.
I'm very funny. Including bravery.
Still doesn't know what the fuck it is.
She's like, what is this thing? I wrote dusty stick instead of
stick. Okay, one thing I do like about
the show. And maybe this is a common to
modern thing, but they usually there's a dog for good look.
But they show like that whole anxiety of like not knowing what
to like, how to communicate, like what to say when you're
texting and you're like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't
know, I didn't deal with this at their age.
So like, yeah, that gay panic is real.
Brooklyn's very interested right now.
Is it cool? And I don't.
He did send it. Can you feel me?
In the. End that's for any supportive.
Crack in the door. Can you tell?
I have. No floor.
My So I heard about you coming. Out last time.
Yeah, I guess. What?
I heard about you coming out last time.
Did he not know that he was out? No.
It wasn't really. This is a flashback.
He's telling Nick how it all started, but we're seeing.
It Ohh, got it, got it. Question mark.
I didn't. Know that putting up with all
the negativity. You probably missed the text.
I got the text I know I. Just didn't.
Focus. I'm bad.
He was just using you. For sure.
May I just say that is the best dog ever.
It's just like. Bristol does that.
It's the best. That's all I got.
I know there's so cute. That's a good tactic.
Cuz there you. Go.
I was hoping that he wouldn't erase it.
No. LOL you could feel the gay panic
in that text. Rainbow.
Use the rainbow.
Instead of use the force, use the flow.
You just made conservatives everywhere screaming horror.
Like this is a joke. Straight panic.
Look at how good that dog is. It just sat there, the whole
scene. Oh, I need someone to make like
a GIF of. At the office scene where
everyone's just running around and just have it.
Called straight panic. Yeah, that would be amazing.
Or May 31st it's like coming how?
You doing Elle? Well, I've noticed you haven't
made many friends in your form group.
I can't imagine it's easy moving schools in the middle of year
11. I'm fine.
I could assign Tara Jones to look after you.
No, no, I'm fine. I promise I don't want to bother
anyone. OK, look, it's half term next
week. How about you promise me you'll
try to make at least one new friend before then?
OK, maybe. I will say this, I was a new
student that transferred halfway through the year as a child and
not once did the teacher ever give a fuck.
I was the new kid in nine different school districts to
have. Galen.
Did you ever, ever teach to be like I noticed you're not making
friends? No.
No, they didn't give a fuck. Actually, maybe once.
OK, that's pretty good. One out of nine.
Somehow I read yogurt in those text messages and I don't know
how. But look at how much they're
texting Caitlin. He's straight, Charlie.
I shut up. Glancing to see that he's a
massive heteron. They're all straight until
they're not. Back me up, I'm saying.
Ginormous Heterosexual, exactly masculine guys can be gay.
And no offense, being exactly the authority and working out
who is and isn't gay. It's true.
Bisexual people exist. Ding.
That friend doesn't say a lot, he told me.
Really. He.
Gave him. Yeah, he's like, always reading
a book. Relatable.
Mr. Joy, Charlie Spring, I have a question.
Well, I am officially a beacon of learning, so fire away.
How do I stop liking someone, specifically a straight guy?
A question for the ages. Yeah, exactly you.
Had a boyfriend? No.
No, he was horrible. This is someone else.
Wow. Being a teenager is terrible.
You know, when I was a teenager and had a crush on a straight
boy, I just repressed it and suffered.
That doesn't sound very healthy. Now, this may seem obvious, but
have you tried to put in some space between you?
No. Well, I can't do that.
Or can't or don't want to. I'm just saying I need a
realistic solutions. He's he's a really good.
Gosh, there's another dog. I need a realistic solution.
I mean, yeah, you can't. There's not.
There's only. There's only so much space you
can put. It's really cute in between.
People in high school can't. Purchase by Planted all the lot
of flowers on it. Really.
That's so cool. I can barely draw stick figures.
You. Want to meet up with us for
lunch today? Did my screen?
What's on you to try and make friends with me?
No, we eat in the canteen so you can join us anytime.
Finish your project? No, no, I'm not even gonna try
like you at this point. You know it's due fourth period,
Yeah. I didn't listen to that
conversation, but basically she was.
Like, did you do your homework? And the girl's like, Nah, she's
like, that's due fourth period. I don't get it done.
You know what? Do you have your homework?
I don't say that. You said you have no friends.
Monster much? Yeah.
OK. So you moved schools from
Truman? Yeah.
Truman was just hell for me. So, I mean, it was hell for
almost everyone, but, like, especially me.
And I kept getting suspended because of my hairline.
Hairline. Yeah.
They have this stupid chin length go above all.
Have you been finding it any better here?
Yeah, it's a lot less stressful. Apart from the whole having no
friends issue. Don't worry.
Most people here are nice, just don't do anything, Darcy says.
Sure, have you taken part in our lunchtime games of American
football in the Science Corridor?
I think you've been friends for a long time.
Since you're. Seven.
So five years of hell. Good.
Fight. I want to do a food fight.
I wish I had a dog. My parents don't like animals.
Come on, my house. Don't like animals?
I. Feel sorry.
Yeah, I think so. It.
Was a long shot of him tyingish? I know.
I don't know why that was necessary and you didn't even do
it right. Call Tori what?
Are you getting not? Tori.
Friends. Towels.
No, his his name's Nick. Is my hair too short?
It looks the same. It looks.
The same. I love her.
Great. Thanks.
Have fun at Nick's, she. Just goes out of her room to
mess with, right? Give him shit and then we.
I guess that's what siblings do. I don't know.
I never did that with my brother.
Rainbow Yeah, I know how many rainbows in the exterior shots.
There's so many in the show, I never noticed that before.
Wow, such an old doorbell. Wow, Caitlyn, we didn't judge
their home. They didn't even upgrade to a
ring yet, like come with hours. I don't even have a doorbell
this. Is Nelly.
I know I love you. Caitlin's gonna give this more
hydration because the dog is in it.
You go. Ahead you know me so well is.
It. He.
Noticed his haircut? No, I didn't notice his haircut.
I. Am all white men that's the
same. I don't notice anybody's haircut
unless it's like, drastically. Different, right?
Okay. Same, I don't notice any of
those things can. You let me win.
Can you let me win? Yeah.
And I'm going easy on you, no? How are you so good at this?
Apparently if you just like go backwards a couple times, you
can, like, skip laps, you're. A proper.
Little nerve. Let's see.
You're good at video games, literally all school subjects,
but especially maths playing the drums.
The friending dogs and you are good at sports like you run, so
shut up. Oh.
Oh my God. What?
It's snowing. Snowing.
Oh yeah, I guess it's February. Let me guess, there's a bunch of
snow already on the ground. You just noticed it was snowing?
I actually don't. Yeah.
Didn't you just get over there like an hour ago?
That was one long game. I mean, there's not too much on
there. So I guess if it was snowing a
lot, it's pretty, but it's really sunny for it to be
snowing like that. This is what, yeah, I wouldn't
do that in today's climate, that's probably like very toxic.
How happy the dog is though, Caitlyn.
I love the dog. Nelly's MVP?
I really. Like.
You. I think Nelly ships them the
most. Oh yeah, she definitely ships
them. Whenever I see snow in TV shows,
I know you most definitely did not see this, but the Drake and
Josh Christmas movie? They made snow out of cheese.
I believe there was something made snow out of cheese.
OK, and so like now all I can think of is that it's cheese.
Oh my God, cartoon snow. See, it's not just leaves,
Kayla. Look at the snow.
It does not look like snow. It does not.
It's like giant drops of water falling.
On the rain jumps keep all and from.
My head. On my head.
Charlie.
Seems like a lovely boy. When did you meet him?
That's Olivia Coleman. That's Olivia Coleman Good.
John Caitlin, we're learning. He's very.
Different to other friends. Isn't he?
You see much more yourself around him.
Even Mama notices. This is why we love hoard of
parents. Always know.
Ohh, yeah. She's like the Yeah, she Yes.
Support a parrot. Darn, the snow already melted.
Ohh so sunny Caitlyn. There was a good continuity,
though, because they made sure to show wet ground, yeah.
What are these last? Names.
Charlie Spring. I don't know.
Maybe they're named after Seasons Spring.
Charlie Spring. Who are you texting?
Yo, mom, it's. Like a brand?
Of water. Great joke, Nicholas.
Who are you texting? Don't.
Come on, he's. The MC.
I have. Where are they?
We're in. England I don't know.
He's definitely chasing. Someone.
Don't delete it. Now Brooklyn, Can you believe
it? These are pretty cheap
transitions. So we're doing well.
Don't pretend you have any idea. You know what's going on.
Which end are we supposed to be getting the ball?
The team is doing well. Yeah, because it's their school.
That's my points. He's the rugby king.
Yep. I wanted to talk to you about
Nick, actually. Yeah, me too.
Did you? Yeah.
Well.
You know how I thought you were straight?
Yes. Well, I've kind of been feeling
like maybe he isn't, like he might let me back.
I just spent all these little moments for the past couple of
weeks and during the half term. I'm scared though.
He's going. To stop.
And he's not seeing a little bit flirty sometimes, obviously,
like, I'm not getting my hopes up, but I just think maybe
there's a chance. Are they together?
No, he's like the pessimistic friend looking out for him
because. He likes a girl.
He watched Charlie get bullied. He's like the overprotective
friend kind of deal. He's in love with the girl.
What? How do you know that?
OK. And does that girl.
I just don't want you to get hurt.
So I decided. To you should have.
The names already. And a message though.
Since I talked with man from doing this that.
Woman Charlie. I just sly asked if Nick was
going out with anyone because I might have a friend who was
interested. I.
Don't know. No.
OK. So that's Charlie.
All right. So this is Charlie.
Curly hair Charlie. No.
Did I forget? That is what second?
Who? Does that in the middle of the
game. You don't.
Wave to the person on the bench unless you're into them.
Don't go back to them. Go to Charlie.
Charlie will bite your finger off, but he has a heart of gold.
It's my. Duty to remind you that
sometimes people are straight. It's an unfortunate.
Straight life. That's hard, Nick.
Back Isaac, I've already warned you about encouraging Charlie's
crushes on straight boys, but I wanna believe in romance.
Oh, he talked. So there's this girl that hit
you? Apparently.
Nick's not. Crushing on man of.
Yours, but we don't. Know if they're actually a
thing. So can you talk to her because
she's in your year at school? Charlie literally won't give up
on this straight boy until we know for.
Sure. Oh my God.
Be quiet. OK?
Slowly. What do you want?
Do you know a girl called Tara Jones?
Yeah. Can you ask her if she likes
Nick Nelson? Nick Nelson.
You might as well give up right now.
He's the straightest person I have ever seen.
No. I've definitely seen straighter.
People she fancies and. Yeah, yeah, I.
Know you forgot about that? Everyone wants to hang out with.
I'm fine. It's honestly fine.
I'm just being an idiot. No, you're not.
OK.
Well, you're a little. Gay heart, and only if I get the
chance, I'll ask her. I'm making no promises.
Come on. Come on.
Er, no. Ladies, come on, we've got still
15. Minutes.
To practice talking about. Friends and family.
Everyone gets into pairs. How decorated the school is.
There's just drawings everywhere.
Can we be? A group of three.
Oh my God, yes, please start. This pronunciation is
horrendous. It's just we, Trey.
Bienafonse. The feeling when somebody agrees
to be your partner in something, it's just so relieving.
We Joe UN Petit. I mean, I think saying makes it
feminine. So you'll be saying you have a
girlfriend. What?
Your son. OK, Tara vous AVEs are Betty.
I mean, uh, no. Then I found Betty.
I mean. Her pronunciation is.
True. Alright, let's move away from
the boyfriend questions. Uh.
L. Vous AVEs def Claire etisa.
I'll Caitlin Caitlin's kind of too, as soon as I actually lost
and maybe offensive. Like I only like girls.
I said nothing, probably. Stopping, I know, if you feel.
Like anxiety. You just spaced out what?
What's up? He knows.
I know he's so cute. The left puppy talk.
Do you? Want to make out with me?
Do you want to? Come around my house.
That too. Or that too, or it really came
out. Or whatever.
You. Just said it in your head.
I just said. It in my hand no house that.
Completely doesn't. It doesn't matter if you said it
because I won, but then you said that you won because I knew
first, but you didn't say anything.
What you're doing? I was just admiring Tara's
hands. That's the gayest thing.
Are they gay? I'm sorry if.
I was OK. This is her figuring that out.
Are you 2 like? Dave Cowpells.
Don't tell anyone, OK? I.
Love. Them There's so much gayness in
this show you're. Officially part of the inner
circle. Also, hers are really soft.
That's the gayest excuse of her. Having see.
You're. Befriended the school lesbian.
I are. Perfect.
I want to befriend the school lesbians.
That was me. Hey, you're terrible.
I'm trying. Yeah.
Watch out. Let me help.
Looks like me if I would try to play the drums.
Ohh look, that is not big enough for anybody.
No. Schools are.
Barely big enough for the drummer.
They're pro now. Can we make out now?
I mean, play drums well? That's That's probably cheating,
though. He fell asleep on him.
Yes, but look how he fell asleep.
All staring while there is sleep.
Creepy and cute, but look look his.
Little hands open. You should get it.
See if he has nice hands. The lesbians were doing it.
It was a star, not a leaf. It was electricity, Caitlyn.
Not a. Leaf.
I said it wasn't a leaf. No pinkies.
Typically he can't. I see it now.
He can't consent if he's asleep, though.
Correct, right. You have to ask someone to see
how soft their hands are. Consent is important, yes.
We shouldn't have to go. I wish I didn't either.
Also, does Charlie have parents because it's like night time?
Do I? Yeah.
Oh. How'd it back?
You're like, come on, this is what you wanted?
OK, see you Monday. Man stuff.
I gotta go. I don't think he's straight.
Thanks Lurker. Why does she always have a She
always has a drink with a straw and is lurking in shadows.
I love her. I don't remember her name, but I
love her. That is a really weird photo.
It really is who took that photo.
I'll also love the generic music size.
My dad would have been so upset. This is a valid question
Tattoos. By the coast?
No. And I just did that.
No, no, no, Definitely not. No.
I know, it's so cute. Look at that smile.
Birthday party. Have to look.
At the dog. I know to jockey What's the
dog's name? Caitlin.
Do you remember Nelly? Nelly.
That's the what I do remember. So why am I like this?
You go down a little bit, you can see your dog.
Oh man, this song is really good for the scene.
Why am I like this? Why am I like this?
Why? Don't ask me how I know this.
What? Tara definitely doesn't like
Nick. Back because.
She's has a girlfriend. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I forgot. That's Tara.
Gin and tonic from Mechanic is the pain.
Oh my gosh, I probably am watching and listening.
Her's a really cool character. We get.
We get more of them throughout the season.
Wait, wait wait. This is iconic.
Kayla, watch. I'm watching.
Watch it. I'm watching.
This scene became a meme later my pregnant.
Sorry. You type any faster.
I get it. I get it.
As soon as I said it, I got it.
Oh, I guess we get the results in the next, the next season,
the next episode. But like the shot of like his
results became like a meme everywhere.
There's no later. See, it gets better as the
season goes on and it gets keeps getting gayer.
That was I did like that episode more, and it's not just because
of the dog. OK, Good.
Good. Yay.
OK, do we remember any of the characters names?
Nelly Charlie is the main character.
Nick is the good guy. Ben Missouri is the douche bag.
Olivia Coleman is Nick Nick's mom.
Tara is gay. Yes.
What are Charlie's friends names?
Oh, I don't know. OK, I think L is the one that
got transferred to the girls school.
His friends at Tara now I. Was just sure if L was the
blonde or the other girl. I forget what the girlfriend's
name is. They said it really quickly and
I missed it on the rewatch. But Isaac is the bookworm
friend. And then Tao, I think is the
grouchy, your pessimist friend who's always like you're wasting
your time, Charlie. Getting this it's it's hard to
remember like a new world it. Goes really quick too, yeah.
Especially more reacting and like talking over it.
Over it, yeah. Exactly.
And my brain always gets distracted, especially if
there's a dog on the screen. It could be a picture of a dog,
this is. Something I acting episode like.
You need to understand everybody who's watching and listening.
We were meeting up with Olivia Lucas from Motherland, and I was
hyperventilating because I saw a dog in a sweater and there was a
bunch of dogs around us and I just wanted to pet them all.
OK, That is, I'm not afraid to be myself when I see dogs.
And dogs are not afraid to be themselves right back, so it's a
perfect match. Like I learned I I got to pet a
dog. In France, the owner spoke
barely any English, but I was like, can I pet your dog?
His name was Hugo. Hugo, That's so cute.
All right, Caitlin, before we end up talking about dogs for
like 3 hours on the lesbian Jesus hydration scale, how would
you? How many?
Cups of liquid. Wouldn't you drink for this?
The thing is, I feel like we need a different scale.
Lesbian Jesus. Nah.
All right, I'm gonna give it an 8.
All right. Yeah, a nine.
I'm gonna give it a nine. This one's real cute.
This one is cute. I mean, it's so cute is you know
what it is? It is really cute and so.
Cute. Like, there's not.
I don't think we had the douche bag in it, did we?
Basically Nick saw him and got jealous.
I got annoyed and he said. Don't.
Yeah, You know what? OK, OK.
I will give it a nine as well. There's less doucheyness to it.
Yeah, because this was very cute.
The dog was in it, the dog, the snow, like it was It was a very
cute episode. It's fair and you?
And all. We got lesbians in it too.
Exactly. So the lesbians use this
hydration scale, We. Have it all in this.
We have it all, yeah. And Alice, is it Alice?
I think it's Alice is that writer.
When they got the renewal for Season 2, season three basically
said they're basically they're going to include other types of
like sexualities and the future seasons.
You know what, then I think once we get all of it together in one
episode, maybe we'll get to it 10.
I'm just saying, I'm just, I know there's one episode in here
for me that actually is a 10. Yeah, Like when this show came
out and me and my wife are watching it, we try to watch one
episode of TV a day together. Like this episode.
We're like, can we watch another one?
Can we watch another one? Can we watch another one?
And we don't do that with a lot of TV shows.
Like this show is just, it's really sweet.
It's feel goody which we don't get.
Often. Well, I'm assuming that the
episode's not called bully. That's not the one that you.
Give I don't I actually don't remember the episode.
It's just there's a there's a there is an episode here that's
a ton in my my my book. So if you want to find out what
that is keep watching our reaction episodes.
I is this going to be the last one that's on YouTube.
I'm thinking that we'll put three on YouTube.
All right. So, yeah.
All right, so. The video reaction will be on
YouTube. The full reaction will be on our
Patreon and the audio listen along will be on the podcast.
Listen, she just wants to watch the next episode and I don't
blame her. So we're we're gonna sign off
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