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Yes. Anyway, so episode 5, I I enjoy
episode 5. So this is the fancy party on
the boat episode. And for me, this is like the
first time that, like, Ed stepped into Steve's world.
Because before this, basically like, they made the mutual
decision to, like, be like, I'll help you be fancy if you help me
learn how to be a pirate. And so in the past episode, we
kind of saw Ed give Steve pirate lessons with the lighthouse
trick and all that stuff. Now it's like Ed Steve
reciprocating via this invitation that they happen upon
because they're raiding A vessel.
And then they find this invitation for Sir Godfrey Thorn
Rush, which what a name, It's the most annoyingly named man
for a swanky party at sea. And Steve is, like, like,
clearly disgusted by all this, hates the man's name.
He's like, yeah, these are the worst parties.
A stuffy party at sea where you can't escape these people.
That sounds horrible. But the whole time he's, like,
listing off what the party's gonna be, like Ed's face.
He's just like everything Steve mentions.
He's like, I wanna go, I wanna go, I wanna go like he's like a
little kid, like busting with excitement, 'cause he wants to
be. Now, when I wrote that note, I
immediately went and watched The Little Burmaid, the live action,
'cause that song got stuck in my head.
So I had to pause my notes to go watch that.
And then I came back to. I haven't even seen the live
action yet. It's a good.
That was my excuse to go watch it, 'cause I love me some
Melissa McCarthy. Melissa McCarthy, Yeah, she
plays Ursula. I did not know that.
OK. Yes, that's my next task.
Personally, I like Titus Burgess and his interpretation of
Ursula, but that's just me. I mean the the cartoon is a is
the classic I. Don't know.
I'm talking about Titus Burgess. His like, I don't think he did
drag. He may have done drag, but like,
he was like up on stage singing like porn.
Fortunate souls. Oh man.
How excited is? Well, side note, like The Little
Mermaid is a queer story written by a queer man and like Ursula
is meant to be a drag queen. So.
That's why I kind of remember if he did that or not, 'cause I I
think that I'm oh. That is I.
I just didn't expect him to use his actual name from Unbreakable
Kimmy Schmidt that I just. Watched because of the aura.
Yeah, I That's how I first found him.
And I fell in love. I was like, I love this man so
much. He's so, so, so, so much.
Anyway, that doesn't happen at this party.
So basically, OK, so Steve and Ed are having this conversation
and like, Steve clearly doesn't want to go to this fucking
ridiculous party. He just escaped this life and
he's like, I don't want to go back to this.
I want to keep pirating. But he made the deal with Ed to
introduce him to the fancy life and, like, and it's so obvious
on Ed's face that he's dying to go to this thing.
So he's like, OK, fine, let's go.
And what I find really cute about this whole exchange and
just them in general, is they they find joy in like the other
person's monotony, which I find so cute.
And it's they're just such a complimentary like couple.
I just. I love the two of them so much.
I mean, I I felt for Ed when Steve was just, like, bagging on
this party. I felt like I just, like, wanted
to go so bad. It was adorable.
It was so cute. The one thing I want to note
that I found out because of the wiki, so thank you whoever
updates that thing. Thank you.
You're the real hero. Yes.
Ed. The bows in his beard were done
by Izzy. That was so fucking.
Cute darling. So Izzy did all of those bows
for him, but the same got cut because of time.
Oh my. God, that would have been so
cute. Was Izzy happy or annoyed?
Oh, I I think it was annoyed. Like like begrudgingly did it
for him. But that would have been such a
good like start for like, the Calypso birthday party episode.
Seriously. Yeah, I just, I I like to
believe knowing that now that like Ed kept like confiding in
Izzy that he was so excited to get to this party and as he was
like, well, I'm not going to make you look like a fucking
dumb ass. Come here.
'Cause like, Ed was probably trying to do the the that bows
himself and it was not working. And it's just like, for fuck's
sake, if you're gonna do it, do it right, man.
And like, yeah, the bows were so cute as beard.
I idea. This is one of my I think I like
at the time. Sorry, let me compose myself.
There's too many thoughts running around in my head.
The first time watching the show.
I liked this episode more than episode 4.
Yeah, but as I was doing Notes for Four, I was like, this is
beautiful. But this episode, I just love
seeing Ed in Steve's Steve's World.
Basically because I I just, I love the the pool and the China
shop, I guess. Yeah.
No, that's an aptidology. The and then.
Oh, good. You OK?
Yeah. The thing that I like the most
about this episode was it made you feel bad for Ed even after
like knowing like the stuff that he was like conspiring against
like steed and stuff like that. And and like we can all relate
to like being like in a new crowd and like immediately
clocking that like you you don't fit in even if like people
aren't like directly saying it to you just cause of like body
language and stuff like that. So like, I definitely felt for
him and even though like it like it became comical at some point
or at some points rather it just, it wasn't, it wasn't fair
that like they just started like laughing at him and like made a
mockery of him to his face. Like that's also very French.
So I mean kind of should have expected that one.
Oh yeah. They were trying to out French
each other cause like at the time like French was like the
epitome of sophistication. And like there was a couple of
lines in there that were they or Steve Wenstein's rescuing him
from this and he's like, you probably wouldn't understand
this. It's too French for you.
And they're like what? Whatever French would.
It's Paris. We could do that.
Like we're sophisticated. Yeah, that's a good point.
I do love that this is Stealing Theora's note a little bit.
Ed picked the name Jeff the Accountant, and like that the
Accountant part was on there. Yeah, the do you.
Want me to jump to that 'cause I have thoughts on why he did
that. OK, so yeah, Ed's alias is Jeff
the accountant. And he says because it sounds
fancy as fuck. So I think the reason he did
that is because think about Ed's upbringing.
He came from like we we get a it glimpses into his upbringing
with his mom and stuff and he was super impoverished
basically. And so, like to him an
accountant, somebody who manages money like that, it was beyond
his means at the time. So, like, to him, that's the
fanciest occupation he could think of.
And you think about in this room full of, like, people, these
people. OK, so this is like, what was it
called a cat? Not caste system, but feudalism
where basically like it's a form of government that was happening
where you'd have like a Lord who owns land, who overseas
everything, And then the peasants that like rent the land
and work for them and all the means, all the money goes to the
landowner. But they don't really have jobs.
They just like own shit. That's their job.
So like these people, he's in a room full of people who like
don't really have jobs. They just, they do this, they
live a life. They're the leisure class.
And so Ed's like the the highest thing, the fanciest thing
somebody can do is like be in charge of money, which is like
an accountant And they're like, wow, that's way beneath us.
Like he he's not impressive like by picking up, but I love in his
brain he's like, that's the fanciest thing I can think of
like, so. I also want to know more about
the the dude that was on the invitation and cause like the
way that they treated Steve the entire time was just.
Absolutely hilarious. He's.
Like, yeah, I'll do a head exam. I guess he just goes with it.
I will say the cherry on the cake was definitely Olu and
Frenchy, just kind of like side hustling the entire time, like.
OK, I love this. OK.
So first of all it's OK. So when we're.
So we're back at the boat. When they get on the boat and
when Ed is like introducing himself and he's like, I'm Jeff
the account and he's like, that's amazing.
And he walks in. OK, I love the.
So the people that go on the boat are Steed, Ed, Hulao and
Frenchie. Those four.
That's it. Hulu.
Sorry, Hulu.
And wait, how do you say the name?
Either Olu or Alu alu ronde. Alu.
Hulu. Wandi.
OK. Anyway, those two are on the
boat and they're, you know, there's a bouncer, right?
Who basically gives them racism. And I like the way Frenchy,
'cause they're like, why are you 2 servants or whatever?
And then Frenchy, I love, sidesteps the racism real fast.
And he's like, this is the Prince of Egypt and I'm his
viceroy because like, they can't confirm any of that.
And they're like, oh, Egypt is like by Africa.
That checks out. They don't know anything beyond
quote the English empire. So they're like, OK, sure,
that's the Prince of Egypt and I love that they like later.
I mean Frenchie just a scam at everybody.
He's like, I've been around this crowd before.
They're dumb as fuck. Let's just steal their money and
they create a literal pyramid scheme which again is the show
being self aware in a funny way. And I love that they eventually
like get all the other servants in on this because like they're
like fuck these people and they just get all the all the brown
people and and just the minorities and they're like
let's scam these fucks. Like I just That was so
brilliant and just. I I also thought it was
hilarious that they essentially came up with the whole, like
Nigerian Prince scheme by saying, oh this is the Prince of
Egypt. Like it was just like so
hilarious. Like they definitely like,
invented like a baby with things.
And like, it's just I love the writing in this show for that.
Exactly. I love that they did things like
that, that like fit the scenario, that like relate to a
modern audience with like the Nigerian Prince Caitlin.
You might be too young for that. The the e-mail scam with the
Nigerian Prince. No, I got one of them when I was
in 8th grade, OK? And I was gonna say she should
also know because it happens in Ghost.
Oh OK. But like to people out there who
didn't have like, e-mail chains back in the day before social
media, like that was a scam that would go around through like
e-mail. It'd be like I'm a Nigerian
really with. Like older people.
Right now, it's primarily with older people, so you may have
never seen it if you didn't own your own e-mail account that
wasn't through. Like give it a couple of things.
Yeah, you'll get like AI generated TikTok messages from
the quote Nigerian Prince. No seriously, give it time.
It is a scam. Oh yeah, anyway.
So that was that. And then we talked in the last
episode, I think you kind of mentioned, I think Caitlyn the
red silk from Ed. So it comes back in this
episode. So he keeps this piece of red
silk that his mother gave him because then we see the
flashback. I think here that again, he was
the peasant class and you know, his mother's like, well, you
know, you can aspire for fancy things, but basically God made
it so that you know, we're not gonna have nice things.
It just wasn't meant for us. God didn't bless us like that,
like it's God's plan. OK, well and so but the the key
here is I think that he internalized that message and I
think he took it to heart to prove everybody wrong because
the message is that you're unworthy.
And I think Ed, that didn't sit well with him as a kid because
this is Ed not Blackbeard. This is before he became
Blackbeard, and I think he very much was like, Oh yeah, fuck you
God, I'm gonna prove you wrong and everybody else.
So to tie it into this episode, in the beginning the the whole
thing starts. The reason they come into the
contact with the invitation is they're raiding a French vessel,
which is, quote, a fancy ship, right.
And this is when, in the middle of the raid, after the murdering
stops, Steve gives him lessons of fine dining like on the other
ship, right? And he's.
This is really funny. And he's like, God, all this.
He's got the spread out on the table with all the stupid,
annoying utensils, and he's like explaining all the cutlery to
Ed, who's like, clearly overwhelmed by the bullshit that
this is. And they have a captured
Frenchman, like one of the captains of the ship or
whatever, in the corner who's all tied up.
And he's kind of watching this like he's a captive, but he's
watching Ed, clearly not understanding what Steve is
talking about. And the Frenchman calls Ed a
slur. He says once a donkey.
Oh, he's a donkey. So it's a kind of like
reinforcing the thing his mom said where he's like, we will
never be above peasant class, like just accept that Ed.
And here he is here he in real time when he has steed, trying
to teach him how to be better. And that triggers Ed
immediately. Like, he's instantly furious and
he starts threatening. It's Blackbeard mode.
He starts threatening the man. And he shouts, do you know how
much treasure I have and all this stuff?
So that's why I think that like this, like, need to, like take,
like acquire as much wealth as possible through piracy, which
is his only option to do so, 'cause like, you move up in in
this world, either through birth, which is the only way to
do it if you're a man, marriage, if you're a woman, or through
the military. That's the those are the only
three ways to really, like, move up in this kind of, like,
society, right. He has none of those options.
So he's like, fuck it, I'll be a pirate.
I'll be the king of the ocean, which is kind of what Blackbeard
was, right? And so here he is.
He's like, I have the thing, I have all the money.
I have the silk. Like, why do you still think I'm
beneath you? So I think that like,
personally, really, like, triggers him.
And, like, he could be as ruthless as he wants in this
moment. But it's it's never gonna
convince that Frenchman that he's, like, successful, you
know? So I feel really bad for Ed.
But, like, his, his big motivator is to, like, be seen
as worthy. And like, no matter what, like
once a donkey, always a donkey. Like, the people he's trying to
impress are never gonna see him that way.
Which is like kind of the theme of this episode.
And it even starts like right in the beginning, like with the
coloring lesson. I do think it's interesting
though, because like since it is based like on history and
everything. And I do think it's interesting
that historically there's not really much known about
Blackbeard's early life. Like the earliest records is
like I think like between 30s and 40s and then that's when we
start knowing more about him. So I do, I do think it's a very
interesting take that the writers made on Ed's like like
upbringing and like his childhood and like that his mom
was like essentially like a a cleaning lady nanny type deal
for like a wealthier people. And like it's it's just such
like a interesting like twist to it and like it definitely
humanizes like Blackbeard into being Ed because of his
upbringing. So it was definitely a very,
very good call for that. Yeah, totally.
And I imagine historically accurate in a way because again,
Pirates, the exception to the rule is Steed, like he was a
wealthy person. Everybody else, it's like they
had no option. So we've gotten past the bouncer
now and now back at the party. So they enter the party and they
come in and like Steed is clearly in his element in this
party. Like, despite hating everything
about this, like this is his element.
And what I mean by this is that Steed is confident in the
passive aggression and the impromptu charming of strangers.
Like, like you said, Zoe, it's funny when he has to like be the
Lord, the Lord with the annoying name, Like he just like goes
with it and like makes it believable and sells it.
Because Steed's used to this, he's used to this bullshit that
they do and he just like is like, I guess I'm gonna give you
a head exam, whatever that is. Like, sure, why not?
I'm the Lord of head exams or what the fuck ever.
And I think it's it's I I like that they did this episode kind
of after the lighthouse scene episode, this back-to-back
contrast. Because I think this is maybe
one of the first times Ed has ever really witnessed Steed's
confidence around other people. Because usually like Steed is
like confident in his passions by when they're by themselves,
when they're like going through the wardrobe and things like
that. But when it's when they're
around groups of people, it's usually Ed is the one with
confidence, because they're usually around pirates and, like
the pirates, respect. Blackbeard quote UN quote.
So I think this is the first time like Ed is really seeing
Steed in a room full of people where he's super confident about
what's going on. And Ed is the one who's kind of
unsure of the situation. Like Ed is 100% the fish out of
water in this party because he has no, he doesn't know he's
seen. You know, it's like, it's kind
of like where Steed has like an idea of like what a pirate is,
but he's never been a pirate. Ed has like an idea of what
being in the upper society is. It's like wearing silk and being
fancy. But he has a no idea like the
cost of that and like the bullshit and the passive
aggression. Like Speed is talking about or
Ed's talking about and. Even like realistically, like
even as a kid, like he most likely never even saw like the
people that his mom was working for just because like they were
just kind of like in the servants quarters essentially.
They were. It seemed like they were
probably by the docks and stuff. Like, I don't know what Ed's dad
did, but like they ended up at the docks, so I assume he did
something on the docks maybe. So like they're like far edge of
town basically kind of thing. Yeah, that's a really good
point. But despite all of that, like Ed
is just so eager to learn. It's very adorable like and he's
like, I can win the game. I can win this game of high
society. I got this.
Jeff never backs down from challenge.
Jeff the accountant, I feel like.
Ed wants to be good at everything because of where he
came from. Like he thinks if he's good at
everything, he there's no way he can fail.
But unfortunately, Ed doesn't do well assimilating into this high
life. He just like goes back to being
himself. And the things out of his mouth
are hilarious, 'cause it's something you should not say at
a fancy party. But it seems to go over better
than acting like he belongs there because everyone thinks
that he's joking. He's just laughing.
It's kind of like the way Ed was like, oh, Steed's really
charming. He keeps doing all these insane
things for a pirate, like having open flames near on a wooden
ship with a bunch of books. Like, yeah, that's funny.
Like, it's kind of like that they're finding the humor in the
fact that the other person doesn't really understand this
world they're in. And then you start to see it
like, kind of like, like you start seeing, like, the reality
of the situation when they're at dinner and he uses, like, the
oyster spoon for like, escargot or some shit.
Or like, on the egg. Yeah, it's it's so
heartbreaking. Yeah, 'cause he starts to
realize that they're laughing at him and not with him.
Like there's a there's a difference between being weird
and jokey and being in on it, rather than someone laughing at
you because you're too stupid. You step out of the jokes and
like, again, he doesn't realize even by, like, announcing I'm
the accountant already they're putting him in the box if you're
beneath me. So, like, he doesn't realize
that he already set himself up at as a disadvantage by
announcing himself as an accountant.
So they already weren't going to take him seriously.
So yeah, this is poor Ed. It's this is, you know, they're
just, Ed is trying to navigate this world he knows nothing
about. And like, he just, he thinks
he's being so cool. He's like, yeah, I'm the
accountant. I'm so cool, 'cause he's just,
he's just doing his best to just be like, finally, this is my
opportunity to be viewed as an equal 'cause.
That's something he's always wanted.
And the sad part is, I think Steve, So Steve, again, this is
his world, so he knows what's happening.
He sees very quickly that, like, Ed is the butt of the jokes.
And he very much tries. He tries so hard to save Ed from
the embarrassment of this with, like, throwing in anecdotes to
kind of spare him from that humiliation.
But Ed doesn't recognize what's happening.
And he's like, oh, this guy Steve.
He never stops talking blah blah blah like he just.
Like he's just like, they fucking love me.
What do you shut the fuck up, Steve?
And Steve's like, no, man, no, that's not what's happening
like. It's this is passive aggression
that we were talking about when I was tutoring you earlier.
Right, 'cause, like, think about what?
Where on earth does the role of passive aggression come into
being a pirate? Like it's just full on
aggression. Not there's nothing passive.
It's very active, so Ed has no idea what this is.
But ultimately though, I I love at the end, it's like the
lighthouse, Like Steve is the one that actually saves Ed from
this passive aggression that's going on.
Yeah, I just. I love that he's like, I know
it'll bring this entire party down.
I'm going to reveal every single secret that these people have
been keeping. Yes, spill the tea.
That would be better. Which which was perfect since
like Ulu and Frenchie were like getting in the servants in on it
Anyways like that opened the door for them to hear the
secrets which they could relay back to steed to.
Help they they got one of the servants to tell him everything.
So I love that a servant was just willing to tell this random
guy all of these things. And I mean, we'll get there
later, but I love. What happens with them?
It goes to show you with like steed cause again, why are the
servants so resentful? A they're servants.
They have every right to be resentful, but they're viewed as
trash by all the people in that room except Steed Seed's the
only one who sees, like the other crew members as like,
human beings. So he was probably treating the,
the, you know, quote, the servants there as human beings.
And he's like, I'm here to take down these fucks on your behalf.
And they're like. Absolutely.
And like, probably like Frenchie was like, no, I can vouch for
him. He'll do it.
Like, this is not bullshit. Like help us.
Love like the the choice in castings for the French people
with Christian Shaw and Nick Kroll and them being together,
that was like, Oh my God, I love it.
They're just so perfect and. When she shows up it makes me so
happy, like the first half. OK, so I will say.
I don't know these names. Mabel from Gravity Falls and
Louise Belcher from Bob's Burgers is who Christian
Charlton? She played the woman with the
very big. Yeah, are we talking about the
one that I said that I know from the last man on earth?
Yes, she's in that. And then she's also in What We
Do in the Shadows. She plays like the the Oh my
God. No, I will say so.
The first time I ever saw any of these actors, So there she's a
new, she's part of that New Zealand acting crew.
And the first time I ever saw her and Reese was in a show
called Flight of the Conchords, which you would might like that
show, 'cause they're singing. There's like they're.
The premise is it's like Jermaine Clement and I forget
the other actor's name. They're basically like this duo,
this music duo that's immigrating from New Zealand,
and they're in New York, and their manager is Reese.
He plays Murray and like, Oh my God, they're so funky but and
they're just like, not do it. It's a it's hilarious, 'cause
they're trying to be too nice about stuff and it's so funny.
And then Kristen's in there and she's, she's basically like the
fanatic fan for like the duo and like stalks them and all of a
sudden they're so funny together.
So, like, I love that this this group, they really do stay
together. Like anytime Taika has a
project, 'cause he he does what what we do in the shadows.
He like casts his like friends, so they always show up in each
other's projects and it's just I love it so bad.
Yeah, Nick Kroll is awesome in what we do in the shadows.
Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like the comedians
that we have, like. Here at Erica.
And like, yeah, they are on everything together.
Medians tend to do that. They find people they have good
comedic chemistry, impromptu chemistry with, and they tend
to, like, keep working together. Like the Tina Fey people.
Yeah, like Tina Fey, Baby Polar, that kind of group.
But yeah, if you had no idea Reese was in the show, please go
on Spotify or something and find the song Leggy Blonde.
You're welcome. It's one of the If you can find
the video, like the YouTube video for it, it's even better.
It's his. It's his song and it's, I think
about that song literally every day.
It's so funny, like he's trying to impress this woman that's
never talked to him and he's singing.
It's so funny. Just go listen to the song.
It's so funny. Me with like all goth tricks on
TikTok, trying to impress them when they don't even know I
exist. It's it's amazing.
Like just go listen to the song that he did.
It's so funny. It's called Leggy Wad Anywho.
Anywho. So after.
SO anyway, that party goes horribly.
So yeah, Steve does the thing where he calls everybody out of
their bullshit. He's like, I know how to win
passive aggression. It's by bringing the truth of
all your bullshit to light. And basically he uses, like you
said, the servants feed him information, he gives
everybody's truths and then they start fighting, which is like,
he's like, I don't have to do anything.
I won the passive aggression by turning it into actual
aggression and you guys are fighting each other.
And while that happens, somebody knocks over a candle and like
the the ship basically birds to crowd.
And so they then the crew, they leave and they end up back on
the revenge and then we kind of like come full circle with the
silk. So basically Ed is like playing
with the silk because he's sad. He's like, he's like, well, this
is my one chance to like fit in in the fancy life.
And I failed. And I feel like he's thinking
like, oh man, I'll like maybe this is a dream I'll never
achieve. And so Steve comes up to him and
it's beautifully romantically shot like scene.
And he complements the red silk, which to me is the symbol of him
trying to climb the social ladder.
And he so Ed Steen sees it, He's like, oh, that's a really nice
piece of fabric. And he folds it and puts it in
his like pocket. Makes it and pocket square.
Makes it into a pocket square. He's like, so he basically takes
the piece of that, that thing, and he's like validating Ed in
this moment. And he basically says you wear
fine things well, which is like being like, hey, I think you're
sophisticated like it. You didn't convince anybody
else, but you convinced me, which is so validating for Ed to
hear. I need to say this is kinda
related but this this scene is reminding me of Willow when
Elora and Kit in that like really well lit scene in
episode. Oh yeah, the one romantic scene
that they had, How are they not the love it?
Wait for it. We'll have that episode come out
eventually. Just about those two, 'cause
it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's like a lot like this.
And it makes you feel any better.
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So we'll give you a link if you want.
Yeah, But anyway, bottom line, Steve Seeds Ed for who he really
is and he accepts him because again, Steve is somebody who's
lived in the fake society and knows all of this is bullshit.
He knew this night was going to be bullshit.
And Ed is somebody who's real, you know, like he lives in the
real world. He's a practical person.
And I that's what Steve likes and also wants to be.
So I think they're they're too far on the spectrum of like
being too, like being real and being in the fake world like.
And so they're kind of coming together and merging, which is
really, really cute. So I love this moment in
general. I think it's a really big like I
see you and I like you moment coming from Steed that it was
important to their relationship because because if you wash them
right after this line is given and does a little lean in like
he wants to kiss Steed but like backs away and then does that
little like bro arm slap. Yeah.
And they walk away. There's like, no, no, that
wasn't romantic or whatever. And then they walk away and both
turn around for what? Less so.
It's so cute. You know, it's it's a common
thing in TV. Like you know, if someone turns
around, they are in love. They're in love.
Speaking of love, in this
episode we also get the canonization of Lucius and Black
Pete. That is also this episode.
Yes, because, I mean, there's hints going around, but like,
this is the first time we get like confirmation that they're
hooking up, which I love. How this is revealed.
So they're basically in the supply closet, and Izzy walks in
afterwards and makes snide comments about them, which feel
a lot like internalized homophobia to me, coming from
Izzy. And there's this exchange that I
love where Izzy's like talking to Lucius, 'cause he's like,
what the hell are you guys doing in here?
And Lucy's like, we're taking inventory of the inventory and
all the inventory's fine, like the worst excuse ever.
And Izzy's like, you think you're pretty cute, don't you?
And Lucius says, actually, I think I'm so, so, but I decided
to carry myself like, I'm cute and black Pete's like, worked
for me. And I just, I love that
exchange. I think it's it's a it's
charming and funny. But like the underlying message
of what Lucius is saying is really, really sweet.
Because yeah, it says a lot about like his relationship with
Black Pete, where like they're again, that's another
relationship where they're just being themselves and being very
real with each other. And it's it's presented almost
like circuit service level at first, like they're just hooking
up or whatever, but like they actually have like a deep
connection like the two of them. And so I I love that.
I love the two of them. I also think it's wonderful
because like while like it's very, it's like a quick
exchange. It's also insanely impactful
because like you said, we get confirmation that they're
actually hooking up, not just like us, like shipping them for
no reason, pun intended. But yeah, we actually doing.
Normal shows because like, oh, they looked at each other.
They're definitely they're gonna end up together.
I mean, that's what I was doing with Steve and Ed a minute ago.
So this ship got their ship together.
So we'll say that. I will say though one part that
because I'm going to circle back to the the boat party, I think
it was very hilarious. That and a hand historically
accurate, might I add with Christian Shaw and Nick Kroll's
character being together but also being related and that was
their dirty little secret. And like I just thought it was
absolutely hilarious because like there is like a reaction
from the other people in the room.
But they're also like OK, well that's a typical Tuesday.
What big whoop compared to the other like like compared to the
other T that's being like aired out?
And I just thought that was like such a funny little like comedic
relief for that. And then us hopping right into
like the romantic scene with Steve and Ed and then getting
another like comedic relief like confirmation scene with Black
Pete Lucius. Like it was just very like well
played out. And like, definitely gave like,
the episode ending on a good note after all the, like, abuse
and harassment Ed just, like suffered through, even though it
was like his own doing at the same time, 'cause he didn't know
any better, like, just conflicting emotions, yeah.
That that's so true. Other thing, I just want to add
really a yes to all of that other thing.
I just want to add about the Lucius and Black Pete thing, is
that the room they're hooking up in, like we John is literally
sleeping like 3 feet away from them, like in the corner of this
room, like taking it up, and he just gives 0 fucks about what's
going on. Like he's like, yeah, they're
hooking up, whatever. Yeah, Izzy's here yelling at us,
whatever. Like, I love Chile is about the
whole thing. Like I love that so much.
And if you like we John, we do discuss him in a certain
interview with a certain person, so stay tuned.
Check out our interviews to see which one we're talking about.
Just. About all of them, you don't
even know. I think that's that's all I had
for Episode 5. Is there anything else you guys
wanted to touch on? No.
Go to six. All right, let's move over to
six. Something I want to add about 6.
It's out of place, but I love that in this episode, Lucius
ends up losing his finger and at the end Black Pete wills him.
Yeah, that scene is so freaking cute.
Oh my. God, I love that.
I love when Black Pete gives it to him and he's like, you know,
it's not even that good. And like, he's like embarrassed
and it's just so cute and oh God.
There it goes. I will say though, they were
definitely very on point with like the Whittled Prosthetics
like throughout like the series between like Spanish Jackie and
her like wooden hand and then like Lucius with his like finger
and then like another certain someone that we're not going to
discuss until season 2. Not yet.
Oh, we'll have many things to say about that one.
But yeah, totally. OK All right.
So cold open for Episode 6. I'm just going to put it here.
So Ed and Steed are on the ship practicing sword fighting, which
turns into how to take a stab wound to the abdomen lessons.
And so basically Steed stabs Ed 'cause Ed's like, I I need to
show you something practical, which is like how to take a stab
because you can be the greatest swordsman in the world, but
eventually you're gonna get stabbed.
Let me just show you how to do it so you can missed the sword
hitting all the important bits which the theory at the time was
like all the important stuff was on the right side because people
were mostly right hand dominant and like the left was the devil
basically. So he's like oh just lean to let
him stab you in the left nothing's there.
And I love when Ed's like, Steve's like what about your
liver and Ed's like we don't even know what that does yet
man. Don't worry about it.
Oh, it's so funny. Theor I'm curious, is that a
good tactic though, to get shot or stabbed in the left instead
of the right? No 'cause you have, you have
organs on the left side too. Like no matter what, you're
getting stabbed. Anything in the GI is just gonna
be a mess. Try not to get stabbed.
You don't know in America theor. Like ideally if you were to like
get stabbed or take a bullet wound like you would preferably
want to. And this is not me being a
psycho. This is because I had to take
anatomy classes for my degree. I I'm a minor in psychology.
Want to preface that? Isn't it like you're supposed to
get like right here? Yeah, like in the shoulders and
then like, and then either in like your thigh or like the
meteor part of your calf. But it can't has to be like,
like directly near your calf, 'cause it's like any lower than
that, going into ankle territory, that then you're
gonna hit your Achilles heel. And that's like pretty
irreparable. Like, yeah, there's surgeries
for it and everything, but, like, if like, that's why.
Like there's like the the like the horror movie cliche where
like there's a serial killer under the car and they slash the
Achilles heel because once that gets slashed, you're not gonna
be able to walk. Like you're kind of done for so.
Yeah. You saved your life, yeah.
PSA, Big Energy. Thank you, Zoe.
OK, back to the stabbing, though.
So Ed is stabbed. And then he's like, OK, now you
have to remove the sword. And so very slowly, like, Steed
is trying to remove the sword from Ed, and there's like, all
this moaning that happens from the two of them.
And then it pans over to Izzy, who's like, trapped behind this
beam, and he can't see them. He can just hear them.
And he's just like, Oh my God. But he took me there if you have
no idea what's happening. And like and like it it like
that, like that alone. Like that interaction between
the like, like presumably just them, then then the unknowing
Izzy, it really like cracked me up because like him under the
implication, like they're fucking just straight on the
deck. And like his face and like,
absolute terror. That's like what really sold it
for me. Like that.
Like solidified the moment and made it even better.
Because I wasn't expecting Izzy to be, like, behind a pillar
during this, like arguably in like in like in what's the word
for it? Intimate moment.
So, like that, just like icing on the cake, it's.
So funny. Whoever thought of this cold
open like it was so good? Oh my God.
OK, so we needed that levity because this episode is pretty
heavy. This is the the Kraken Killed My
Father episode. So after we get past that
hilarious cold open, we start with basically Steed telling,
you know, night time stories to the crew.
And tonight he's telling ghost stories, but they're not scary
like at all because it's coming from Steed who doesn't know true
horror or what that even is. So he his scariest thing he can
think of is a man with a hook for a head and the crew's like,
doesn't even make any sense. How does he eat?
And he's like, he doesn't have to eat like.
What he he definitely needs to stick with like the pre written
stories rather than like on the spot and then like you just see
like Ed, like oh you think that's scary and then like
trauma dumps. Literally.
So yeah. And the crew was like, this is
some bullshit. They're like, Blackbeard, can
you tell us a scary story, 'cause I'm sure you actually
know what this word scary means. And I think the the way it's
phrased to him is like, tell us the scariest thing you've ever
seen and he's like the scariest thing I've ever seen.
And then he says the Kraken put a pin in that.
Like the Kraken is the scariest thing that Ed has ever seen.
Put a pin in that story. So, and obviously the crew is
thinking of, like the legend of the Kraken 'cause this is
something that's a legend that's gone on for a long time.
It comes from Scandinavian folklore, and it's usually
depicted as this big, like steed creature, like a cephalospod,
like a squid kind of thing that's capable of destroying an
entire ship and dragging sailors to their doom, basically.
Which is kind of true in Ed's story a little bit, but the
twist is that the reason he's presenting it to them is like
the Kraken is the scariest thing.
The Kraken killed my father. And he said, but don't worry, he
was a Dick. Yeah.
Oh, oh, OK, Which kind of like a good move from him, 'cause it's
like it's this legendary monster that kills sailors and it's like
it killed your father and you survived it.
So it gives him a lot of St. Cred by like giving this kind of
story. And OK, so the the rest of the
stuff that goes on in this episode is basically like
learning about what fuckery is, I think.
And Ed's, yes. The art of fuckery and Ed's crew
is like, OK, let's basically turn our ship into a haunted
house, yes? The invention of the haunted
house, I was like It's the horror if you.
Will, Yeah. Yeah.
The House of Horror and basically he, they're like,
well, instead of like going on to this like vessel and like
raiding, we'll have them come on to our ship, which is
ridiculous, and then we'll scare the ship.
They're like, oh, they. Can come to us.
Why would they come to you? Because they're like, oh.
Because he's like, oh, empty ship, easy raid.
And then they scare them with whatever they think is scary.
It's also hilarious that it is like the personification of a
theater kid during this, like, whole thing.
Shows up in all black and he's like the motivation of and
nobody knows the Holly. It's so funny that conversation
he has with the crew. Oh my God.
It was like, Oh my God, everything about it is funny.
So basically, like, instead, he lets the whole crew participate
and figure out what they think is scary.
And like, they create this haunted house where Steve is the
finale, basically. And so the finale he thinks is
the Kraken. And basically they have, like, I
think Fang is like throwing something against the window to
look like one of the cephalopod arms or whatever.
And Ed is in the room because Izzy is like enough.
You need to kill this bitch. Like this has been going on for
far too long. Clearly you're not gonna kill
him. And like you promised me and we
need to get rid of him because what is going on here, Ed like
and you know Izzy's traumatized by the the fucking he thought he
overheard and he's like we need to end this now.
This is getting too much and so Ed's like, fine, I'll kill him.
And so they're trapped behind like, a silky screen, basically
Ed and Steed and Steve's like, wait, wait, wait for the finale,
wait for the finale. And once the Kraken starts
coming out, that's when, like, Ed gets really, like, he starts
getting, like, crippled basically because he's being
triggered. Like, his PTSD is being really,
really triggered. And so he ends up like, he comes
out, The pirates see Blackbeard, and they're finally like, Oh my
God, it's Blackbeard. That's what actually scares them
away, which poor Ed. But Ed is being really triggered
right now. So he retreats into Steed's
bathroom and Steve follows them. So they're kind of alone in this
little little area of the ship. And that's when Ed is kind of
like sobbing in the tub. And he tells Steve what really
happened to his father, which is that the Kraken in the story was
him as a kid and he's the one that killed his father.
And so why did Ed even bring up the story to begin with?
So if you think about the story like he this is a pre Blackbeard
moment. So this is Ed, the little boy
living at home. And like we've mentioned, Ed's
family is very poor and his mom worked, which means that like,
despite his dad doing whatever the hell he was doing, it wasn't
enough to support them. And I kind of get the impression
that, like, his dad, like, probably drank away with little
money he was bringing in, leaving the family basically
nothing. Just like living off of mostly
like, what Ed's mom was making and wage inequality, what she
was bringing in could not be anywhere near what the dad could
possibly bring in. And so in the flashback that
we're seeing with with Ed, basically like there's a little
domestic violence that's happening at Ed's house where
the dad is enraged because he didn't like the food that Ed's
mom prepared. And to her response was
something along the lines of, like, this is all we could
afford. Like it's either this or we
don't eat. And so it's a very abusive
environment coming from the dad, like.
And so showing that, like, Ed grew up in, like real poverty,
like so much that, like, they could barely afford like, edible
food. Right.
And the breadwinner, AKA his dad, clearly did not do the best
to get them out of this situation.
He was basically like an abusive deadbeat And and Ed grew up
witnessing this. Like this is his example of
like, what it is to be a man. It was a pretty shitty example.
And so I think that Ed was getting, you know, just enraged
by this and bottling it up probably his whole life.
And he got this was his breaking point with that.
And so he unleashed his anger basically and became a monster
and and killed his own father. And like granted by Ed doing
that he was liberating his mother from this abusive
asshole. But for a young child to have to
like bear that burden of murder and then assume the role as
breadwinner because he's the man of the house, like that's a lot
for like a child to to do, you know.
And in a way this whole event, becoming the Kraken forced Ed to
grow up like a too fast and just enter this like exit his
childhood and it and step into surviving as an adult like very
very at a very young age. And so he never had the
opportunity to really like live his life and like relax or just
like be. Instead he was traumatized
immediately and and living with the guilt of like murdering his
own father, like being a Dick or not.
But that's a very real burden to walk around with.
Like his first kill was his own father.
Like someone that was supposed to love him, that was supposed
to care for him, but ultimately didn't.
And I think that why he's telling the story is that his
coping mechanism was to turn as a kid, was to turn this horrific
event into a story. Like a monster killed my father.
And the fact that he knows deep down that he's the monster, like
it says a lot about like Ed's self esteem and how he, like,
views himself as, like so unworthy.
He's like not even human, you know?
And perhaps when he go ahead, sorry, go.
Ahead. No, you're good.
No, no. Go go.
I was just gonna add on that like arguably you could say that
his father deserved it. Because while there isn't much
known about Blackbeard's childhood, it it is in some like
recreating like storytelling of Blackbeard's life.
There is some people who believe that when their parents left,
when Blackbeard and his family left Bristol, they went to like
this island on Jamaica and like that's where they found their
fortune and they owned slaves. So like, if you're going based
on that, like 'cause I believe it was like from a Smithsonian
article. I wanna say if you're going
based on like that storytelling and not based on like the lack
thereof. And like I said, there's lack
thereof of like his of Blackbeard's childhood in
general. So it could possibly not be
true. It could possibly be true.
But if you're going based on like that Smithsonian article,
like again, arguably it's pretty well deserved that he ended up
killing his dad, especially if like they owned slaves.
But I personally, I still like the theory that the writers did
where he grew up poor. Like his his dad was possibly
like a drunk drinking away like all their money while his mom
was like the breadwinner. Which even then like that's kind
of like a pothole because like back in the day, like the male
was always going to be the breadwinner.
So like that was even then like that was out of the societal
norm. So the fact that 'cause like
there is like still like some evidence surrounding the fact
that Blackbeard was queer and of himself with his shipmates, as
well as like for any pirate in general, because there wasn't
that many women pirates. And if there were, it was the
occasion of with Jim where they were cross dressing to be a more
masculine appearing. So it's just very like
interesting and like it's like the like the like the history
crossover and like them actually like adding like a historical
element while taking their own spin on it.
It's always my favorite type of trope and like movies and media
in. General yeah, I think.
I think this version does it. It adds a lot of depth to
BlackBerry. And then the Ed transformation
that the show is basically telling as like a big, big plot
point. And so to have Ed start off this
episode by telling this story to the crew, I think that when he
transitioned into Blackbeard, I think this story of like
surviving the Kraken who killed my father, I think was a clout
move, right, because it's a big feared beast by a lot of
sailors. So for Blackbeard to tell the
story of like, I survived the Kraken and the Kraken killed my
father, that would give him clout, like when he's trying to
become a pirate, right. And so I think in in the scene
with The Revenge, I think he was trying to perhaps lean into that
a little bit by telling it to the crew, 'cause he, you know,
Ed still has that reflex of like impressing the crew.
But I think at this point he's, he's transitioning into his,
like authentic self, right? And I think his, his authentic
self knows that he's the monster of the story.
And so he really comes to term with that when he's breaking
down in the bathtub, telling the story to Steed that he's the
Kraken, AKA the scariest thing he's ever seen was himself
murdering his father. And it comes out that, like,
while there's the legend of Blackbeard, he just murders
people on site. And it's like I never directly
killed anybody else after that. Like, like sometimes it's like
it's very adjacent where he's like I left the ship on fire,
the fire technically killed. So, like, he, he's responsible
for murder, but he absolves himself of the guilt.
Or sometimes he's just like my henchman did it.
I never did it. And it's it's also like a
really, like, I really like the way that they did that with the
whole, like, coping mechanism of him saying, oh, it's the Kraken,
just in terms of like, like soothing his anxiety and like
even potential survivor's guilt just with the whole thing.
And like, it's a very, like accurate representation of
somebody carrying around trauma in general.
Because I know personally with my I'm not going to dive into
that trauma because that definitely involves like trigger
warnings and stuff. But like myself like I I would
love to be creative enough to make like fantastical tales just
to cope with the the stuff that I've been through like that
that's such like a lovely like way to cope and like it.
It definitely adds like a softer side to to Ed cause given yeah
he did kill his dad but he found a wonderful way to cope with it
when like he has like unchecked anger.
He has his own, like, behavioral issues.
So like the fact that he cared enough for his own, like, peace
and sanity to find a way to like kind of, like make himself feel
better about the whole thing. Because we do find out that,
like, it was, it seemingly, like accidental the way that that it
happened, like he didn't, he didn't go into like
premeditated. He may have had like some
thoughts here and there thinking like, I really fucking hate this
guy. I wish he was dead, but like, it
doesn't show him like, plotting the murder or anything like
that. So it's just like a really,
really nice take. And like I obviously didn't kill
anybody, which this is not helping with my comment earlier.
I know a good. Way but don't.
Worry about that. But it as as like a trauma
survivor it it it is nice seeing representation even in something
as as silly and unserious as a queer pirate show.
Like, it's always nice getting that added a representation for
not only being a queer person, but also like being able to like
like getting that validation, that trauma bonding is a real
thing. And that's exactly what Steve
and Ed are doing. Like it's just very nice to see,
like the the writers, they really thought about this like
thoroughly and well put and a way to like respect those who do
have trauma. So just kudos to them.
Like, it's amazing. Yeah, definitely.
And and Speaking of trauma, so like at, at in the scene, like
Steed is based. Oh no, Steed.
Ed is confessing all this to Steed.
Like laying his trauma out, because that's the thing he's
most ashamed of. So that's another reason perhaps
he created this fantastical story too, is to present the
truth in a manner that would be more well received by his peers
who were pirates. And so if you think about
tonight in in the episode, like he was supposed to kill Steed,
and clearly he didn't, and and more importantly, he's like, I
can't kill you. Like he confesses all this to
Steed. He's like, I can't, I can't kill
you. But let me show you the ugliest
parts of me by by the things that he's ashamed of.
Like, which is this murder of his father and I I love that in
this scene together that Steed just accepts, Ed accepts all of
him. He accepts the fact that Ed was
gonna try and kill him, 'cause he's, you know, he's a
Blackbeard. He does things like that and and
he accepts the murder. And it's just so beautiful the
way Steed just like, embraces him.
Because there's the line where basically Ed says I'm not a good
person and he's like, that's why I don't have any friends.
But he's a lonely person, you know?
And I love that Steed's like I'm your friend, like I see all of
you and I like you just, you know for every piece of you.
It's just such an another beautiful scene with the two of.
Them. Which which furthered the
heartbreak because, like, Steve would have been a dead man if
the Kraken didn't. If, like, the whole Kraken thing
didn't pop up because, like, Ed was getting ready to stab his
ass, Oh yeah. Ed was stacking himself up and
just saved by the Kraken. Yeah, saved by trauma.
Ironically. All right then episode 7, unless
anything else about episode 6 for move down episode 7.
Is he fighting steed? Oh, what you got to say about
that? I just, I I always assumed that
that was going to happen. I just didn't know how that was
gonna play out. So that was kind of a nice call
back to the beginning, where Ed was literally teaching him how
to avoid dying from a stab wound.
And like, it's it's so funny that, like Izzy didn't take that
into consideration that that kind of shows like how little he
pays attention to Steed as a person, or like Steed and Ed's
interactions as a whole. But it's also, it also could be
plausible that he showed up right when the moaning was
happening and he didn't hear any other context.
So there's two ways to look at it.
Either like just disregarded the entire thing and that's why he
didn't, like remember that during the fight, or again, he
had just shown up when the moaning was happening and got
traumatizing of himself. But I think we can all agree
Steed has like one too many near death experiences.
Like somebody cursed him. It wasn't buttons that cursed
him, but somebody cursed him. Oh, yes.
Yeah. So that is a nice parallel.
And I do love that when he gets stabbed through the abdomen
again, he's like, did I do it right, Ed, 'cause he?
Did the one on technicality because it got stuck in the the
post and I. Do a lot.
That's that's how he won. Again, which again is very
steed, right? It's not the traditional way,
it's by it's by outsmarting other people.
He's like, well, this is beam is made of natural cherry oak,
which is a very thick wood. So yeah, your shard's gonna get
stuck. So and then eat his.
Own word or eat his own words and leave the ship.
And he's just like, are you coming with me, Ed?
And he's like like contemplating hard help.
Like that. All right, episode 7.
Yeah. OK, this is the and they were Co
captains episode because at this point it's basically like
they've just been cohabitating on their revenge and that's kind
of where this is going. So at this point, Ed is getting
like restless, just being on their revenge, doing really
nothing. They're just chilling.
They're really not doing anything productive.
They're just hanging out. And it makes the comment that
basically a ship only has 1 captain and Ed clearly wants to
steed clearly wants to protest this, but they get interrupted
by Frenchie because they're out of oranges and the Swede has mad
Scrooby, like his teeth are falling out, his nails are
falling off, like it's real bad. So they have to go somewhere
where there's oranges, so like Florida, So they end up in Saint
Augustine. And while they're there
basically like there's two things going on.
The crew is like, we need fucking oranges.
So they go to find the oranges because Steve is like, well, Ed
is sad and I need to make him happy.
So he's like, I found I spent way too much money on a totally
real treasure map. We're going to go on a treasure
hunt and the crew's like, we're gonna go find oranges, because
that's really why we're here, you dumbass.
Also the the episode where Jim reconnects with with their
family. Yeah.
So there's three Pop Points, Treasure Hunt, Orange Hunt, and
then Jim reconnecting us, knowing more about their back
story. Exactly.
So comes along with Jim. Yeah.
So they end up stumbling upon Jim's fast because Jim does not
want to go to say in August name with Jim, but Steve's like Jim,
basically. Like when the crew's trying to
figure out who's gonna be in charge, Black or black.
Pete's like I'll be in charge. He's like, he's so desperate to
be a leader, but like he has no leadership qualities.
And then Jim shows up in there and Steve's like Jim, you be in
charge. Joe doesn't even want to go.
So the. Jim was just trying to make it a
whole point for them not to go specifically because of them
having family there. And then they're just like, but
we need oranges and it's closer. Oh my God.
It's so funny. And so I do like when they
stumble upon Jim's family. Caitlin already kind of like
went over Jim's past. So I won't go into depth about
it. But I do want to say I really
like the exchange where the crew was talking about Jim.
And Frenchy's like, Jim is the kind of guy where if they
stabbed me, I'd be like, yeah, I'd probably deserve that.
And we John's walking next to him and he's like, I'd love to
be stabbed by Jim. So I love that exchange.
Like again, like the crew just loves Jim, just for Jim.
And they clearly respect Jim a lot, which I totally love.
Even with the mermaid siren allegations.
Yeah, they they're like, you know, we still love you,
whatever. And I like her.
When they meet Nana, 'cause you mentioned cause, Kaitlyn talked
about Jim's transformation. And in the first episode, it
basically talked about how like Jim, I think was raised as a
girl, kind of And then like initially when they were little
and then kind of like just became an assassin and then is
Jim now. And so I like when Nana
reconnects with Jim, Jim's like, I go by Jim now and like Nana
completely accepts Jim. He's like, OK, that's your new
name. Great and uses they them
pronouns the whole time. So without without missing a
beat, you're like you're Jim. Great.
And just like goes with it the whole time.
It just is very accepting of who Jim is, which I thought was
really sweet because like you could easily read.
Their relationship is really fucked up and weird because
like, Nana's a nun who trained Jim to be an assassin, but like,
clearly, like Nana really loves Jim.
I also love that because it's a nun, being able to switch to
they them pronouns the name so easily helps a lot of people in
the nun faith. Christianity the Nun.
Faith. Well, I mean realistically like
like in in like like in Europe and Asia and like like back when
they were predominantly like Christian based, mainly European
Asia, they kind of got like the whole jumped on the Christian
train like later on. But like primarily like Europe
back when they first started with like Catholicism and
Christianity, they were very like accepting in like certain
areas, like very accepting of like queer people.
Like it was very common for like men to sit on each other's laps
and stuff like that. Like like the whole Roman Empire
that was queer as fuck. They were having orgies and shit
like that. Like it was very accepting.
So like that didn't really catch me off guard too badly when they
went to Saint Augustine because that's when like, it started.
Like like the whole, like the idea of like the Silk Road and
stuff like that. And, like, inevitably
colonization, unfortunately. But like, it didn't catch me off
guard just because of that prior knowledge that, like, they were
more accepting back then. Because it was just typical
Tuesday. Like, OK, yeah, it's Jeff and
Zach Sorgi. All right, let's go.
So it. I'd really do appreciate like
the like how quickly Nana was to accept 'cause they they
definitely could have took in the route of not accepting like,
oh, you're still dead name. Like you're still using she, her
pronouns like stuff like that. So it was it was very nice to
see, even though I was kind of like hoping and expecting that
that was going to happen. But going into that with like no
prior knowledge about like religion and other parts of the
world, like when it first like was like established and stuff
like that, you're going to be on the edge of your seat and being
like shitting bricks going Oh my God, are is is she going to
respect Jim's identity or is it going to be like a whole ordeal?
Is it going to be a disowning type thing?
So there's like valid worries on both ends.
Yeah, for sure. And I also love how Nada loves
Hulu. Did I say it?
Alu olu Olu. I'll never get it right.
Very cute. Probably not Big O, since that's
Big O. Oh God, that later.
OK, let's move on. Meanwhile, while that's
happening, it's Jim. Steed buys a super expensive,
totally real treasure map. And with that map, he takes Ed
in an outing around the island to, quote, find buried treasure.
Like real pirates. Because Steed is still in
Fantasyland. But like, more importantly, he
believes that adventure is nourishment for a pirate like
Ed. And he's trying to like, really,
the whole thing is just designed to cheer up Ed and like, give
him something like a a good day. Basically his way he's trying to
do. And it's really sweet that like
Ed again, he's ignoring. It's a terrible captain where
he's like, fuck the crew. I have to help Ed.
But it is really sweet that he's solely doing this whole thing
just to make Ed really happy. And yeah, his ulterior motive is
to, like, get Ed to stay aboard the Revenge.
But the whole time Ed is, like, ridiculously embarrassed by
Steve's frivolous activity, 'cause he's like, he doesn't do
well with treading water. And that's what he feels like.
This is because he's like, he's like real pirates don't bury
treasure. And then he's like, why would
she sell you the map and not just get the treasure herself?
He's like, clearly, Steve, this is a scam, But the, you know,
he's like, the point is for us to have fun and do something fun
together. But, like, Ed's been, Oh no,
he's always gone. I'll finish this thought.
Ed's been in survival mode his whole life and doesn't know
what, like, treading water is like.
He has no idea. OK.
So I mentioned this before, but you can tell that Steve and Ed
both yearn for the domestic life.
And like, yeah, Ed Steed, my God, Steed had it before, but it
wasn't what he wanted. And it's you really see this
when Ed talks about opening a restaurant and Steed and him go
back and forth about what the restaurant would be and if Steed
would even be able to get a table.
And it's just so cute and like they're planning this like whole
alternate life out. Basically I'm and granted this
this whole scene was improvised. So yeah, you could always tell
with those two when their conversations are improvised.
I've learned since all the conversations I picked up that
aren't like that. I found that the wiki told me
that it was improvised. Thanks wiki.
And I will say while I am content with where we left off
with Steve and Ed in the last season, I would if I would like
to see if they do a third season.
Just a little call back to the treasure hunt where Steed has
like this harebrained scheme that he's wanting to find like
this treasure and Ed just like dude again.
No, OK, let's let's keep going with that.
So you know how they like again this whole conversation evolves
into them being an in owners. And So what if in the end, they
actually make this restaurant with like the gift shop?
And what if Steed is like, why don't we make it a game for
kids? Also be where they have them do
a treasure hunt on the property? Oh my God the hora.
What if they invent petrified, 'cause, you know, like the
orange, like the daughter at the end cracks it in half?
What if it's like an Easter egg situation where you open it,
there's like a prize inside or something?
That'd be so cute. That's.
So cute. Someone write that.
No, write that. Send us the fan fiction if it
exists. If it doesn't.
Write it and sends it to us. If it doesn't exist, please
write it and send it to us guys, please.
That'd be so. Cute the the most important
thing is send it to us because. No one does this, I know.
And like, The funny thing about that like, whole Easter egg hunt
thing is the fact that it originated in the 16th century.
Yes, it was that long ago, but it would be like pretty on brand
because, like, they could be like that.
There was like their little cool, 'cause I believe it
started in like 15, like the 1500s, I want to say.
So like that would be like such like a cute little thing like
another like like added invention.
Yes, the egg hunt. That would be so cute.
Oh my God. Yeah, I need that scene in my
life now. OK, but happy.
Easter. Yes, Happy Easter.
We're following this on Easter. You're gonna see this way after,
but like if you for those that celebrate Happy Spring to see.
Ed and Steed dealing with like, a group of little children.
I think it'd be freaking hilarious.
Just. In general, I.
I would love to see Ed's reaction to Steed's children
specifically, though. Be like you Remember how he used
to play pirates? Well, this is Blackbeard.
I think. I think Ed would love his
daughter. She's kind of she's a badass.
She's a badass. He'd be like, why did you, why
did you bring her on the ship? She's great.
OK, wait, so back to this actual scene.
I love writing fanfiction on the fly.
Back to this actual scene, though, OK?
Something we love about this is like, OK, so the reason we get
to this campfire scene is because a snake falls out of the
sky and, like, Blackbeard hilariously murders this thing.
And I love when Steve's like, Oh yeah, on the map it says there
are snakes here in this part of the woods.
Oh, right. Anyway, so he kills the snakes.
And then they're eating it. And while they're having this
conversation about the restaurant and there's a piece
of the snake that get the food and promise, basically get into
blackbeard's beard. And Steve's like, trying to
direct him to get it out. And he's like, I'll just do it.
And he like, very carefully and lovingly.
He's like removing the food. And Lucius came with them
because, you know, Lucius and he's his gaydar is just going
off so much in this, in this situation.
And he's just like, Oh my God, this is happening, which is the
hell of the episode. But it's so funny that he's
like, this is way too domestic and shit.
And like, I just love that he's the first one of the crew that
puts this together with the two of them.
And it's like this scene, it's so Lucius.
Has great gaydar. Oh my God, it does.
He's like the relationship guru of everybody.
He's good with break UPS according to himself.
Yeah. Which comes in handy later.
I mean, let's be fair, Luscious is writing romance fan fiction
about everybody on board. Oh, 1%.
I mean, he's even like drawn everybody on the ship, like
that's confirmed. So like it would only make
sense. He's drawing them like his
French girls, you know? Oh my God, I love that scene
with him and Fang that we never talked about that, but that was
so when he was drawing Fang. That was one of the my favorite
scenes and I just hope Fang was just like eating that up and
like taking all the compliments. It's so cute.
It's the. Casual flirting because.
It's so good. Anyway, so that all happens this
the campfire thing happens and they keep going on the and in
the process the map gets burnt because they're having fun and
they forget about it. And so Ed's like, or or Steed's
really like bummed out, 'cause he's like, oh man, I bought this
map. I thought, we're gonna have this
great time. And like, Ed's basically being a
Dick up until now because he was like, this is stupid and
frivolous. So I love that Lucius is the one
that calls out Ed for being unappreciative of what Steed is
doing with this outing. And it's I love that it's Lucius
and and he does do this, 'cause he's standing up for Steed in
this moment, even though he's clearly terrified of Blackbeard,
cause at the end of the rant, he's like, you can kill me now
if you want, because I think deep down, like, for all the
shit the crew gives Steed, I think they all do really love
him in their own ways. And like Lucius is the one
that's most, it's most explicit, the way it comes from him, that
he does really does love Steed, or at least respect him as a
person. Because here he is like standing
up the Blackbeard like for him, you know?
Yeah, yeah. And I think on the flip, the
flip end because Lucy is the one who's basically that man likes
you, you know, he likes you and he's doing this because he likes
you. And and so I think like by Lucy
is saying all of that out loud, it's also validating for Steed,
I'm sorry, not Steed for Ed who has kind of like low self
esteem, right, Which we talked about in the last episode with
the Kraken and all that stuff. So.
So to hear from like a third party that Steed likes him, like
he's not making this up in his head, Like Steed does actually
like him and he's doing this whole thing just to make him
happy. I feel like that's something
that if Ed had recognized that that's what Steed was doing on
his own, it would have been really hard for him to be like,
yeah, that's actually what's happening.
I think he would have been like, Nah, I'm not worthy of that.
So, like, to have Lucius confirm that.
I think it's also like a big validating moment for for Ed to,
like, accept that Steed does like him back and somebody else
is capable of liking him back. Like, you know what I mean?
Mm hmm. And so I think that that that
helps get to the end of the the episode worldly.
He's like, yeah, I can stay on this ship.
I'm not overstaying my welcome or anything like that.
Let's be Co captains, you know. And they were Co captains.
And I will say with the ending of that episode when Izzy goes
to Spanish Jackie to kind of like double cross them because
because Ed didn't come with he just kind of stayed with the
lover boy. It just it just goes to show
that Izzy is so good at being a villain that we love.
And Speaking of villains since I have self incriminated myself
several times I also went to preference.
I I, majoring in criminal justice, realized that as a a
better explanation than psychology.
So. Yes, None of us are murdering on
the side. We just talk about murder in the
context of fictional characters and Zoe in her major.
Or get their major. Sorry.
So anyway, yeah, I do love. I love any time that Spanish
Jackie is on screen. It does make me happy.
So I and I love that like when Izzy gets there at the
conversation he walks in on is such a like, because Spanish
Jackie's like set up as this big imposing person, this criminal,
like Genius. And her and the husband are
having this conversation about like overhead cost of the bar.
No, but like, it's such a mundane nothing conversation.
And he's like, we should we should sell food, 'cause that
would be, you know, food and drinks.
And she's like, I don't love that we'll have to pay services,
pay servers. Like, I love it.
That's what he walks it on. It's so funny.
I love her. Leslie Jones was such a such a
brilliant casting decision. It really was.
I love it so much. It's it's hard to like try to
imagine like anybody else for that role.
Seriously I I really can't. Like he was perfect for that.
Yeah. All right.
So that was episode 5 through 7 so thank you for coming along on
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