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today, Theora? Today we're going to be
discussing XO Kitty season 3. We have a show with a queer lead
that has made it past one season 2 seasons, three seasons.
Will there be a season 4? I think probably, probably.
There's no ending here. I feel like there will be a
Season 4 that's going to be the last season.
Yeah, I feel like it has to be that's, that's how they're doing
it like the different terms and then.
Highly delegate also cuz like I don't foresee them continuing
this outside of high school is the thing.
They could, but. What will be the next spin off
of To All the Boys I've Loved Before?
Yeah, that's the real question. What's the next generation
anyway? So today we're going to get into
everything to do with Season 3. So if you have not seen season 3
in its entirety, we will spoil it.
So please go watch it, then come back to this.
And yeah, that's basically it. This is not a scene by scene
breakdown. This is going to be like all of
our other coverage of XO Kitty Season 1 and Season 2.
So also, if you want to get caught up, go check out our
other episodes. We also have select reaction
episodes on YouTube to Season 1, Season 2, and the entirety of it
on our Patreon if you want more XO Kitty content.
But today we're just going to be overviewing the things we like,
didn't like, and everything in between about XO Kitty Season 3.
Let's. Do it.
Let's do. It so I think we have to start
with the obvious, which is that the Kitty and Mino shippers got
their fill this. Season they did.
If they're pissed off, I don't know what's wrong with them.
OK, I don't. You got everything.
I feel like they're going to be pissed off at Kitty being like,
I don't trust him. They're going to be mad about
that. Yeah, it's fair.
Yeah. But, you know, so, yeah.
OK, so we have to just say we were wrong.
They were. We thought that that was the red
herring ship. They they are in fact, the end
game ship. There's too much symbolism now
at this point with me. You know, Kitty, the tree, all
the pair. They explicitly had a parallel
going on with LJ and Peter and you know, and Kitty that was
made it very predictable. But they're the end game ship.
That's just with Kitty. That's just what it is.
So overall, like, and I'm not mad about that.
Kitty is a bisexual woman. She can do whatever she wants.
That was not erased. It's fine.
I thought they were very cute when we didn't have the drama
that we must have. Yeah, honestly, they.
Are fairly they're cute. I see them happy.
They're cute. Yeah.
I'm not mad about it at all. Like it was nice to actually see
them happy in a season. Like more happy than not.
That's true because usually because they've been the will,
they won't they for a while. So we get got a change in tone
between the two of them. So that was kind of nice to see
like in more than like 5 second bits, you know, like the teaser.
Yeah, and actually have conversations where they talk.
Yes, yes, they actually talk, although Kitty really needs to
work on her insecurities and that was a theme of season.
Yeah, Speaking of Kitty, I just let's talk about her in the
first episode because she was really self sabotaging her.
Like she's a really good at self sabotaging herself.
But like this episode in particular because she was
looking forward. Well, first of all, she
bulldozed her asking to go on the world tour.
So she never actually ends up going and I know which girl you
had the opportunity to go around the world.
You do you take that opportunity.
I understand that she ended up going to be with her sister but
like. Well, her sister came up and
Katie's going to choose family, but yeah, I know prior to her
knowing that. She sabotaged herself, Yeah, but
then she was like, OK, I'll go to Busan with him and have
romantic time together, alone time together.
Yet she got upset when she wasn't going to have alone time
with him when she's the one who invited the boys to Busan.
Yeah, but she did that for her because she's like, I need to
know if he likes me. Please wing man me at the
expense of Q and his relationship.
He's like, oh, I really want alone time with my boyfriend, a
kid. He's like, my plot line is more
important because I'm the main character.
You need to come with me and sacrifice your relationship for
me. It's like girl.
I'm #1. On the top.
And then she had to. Go do what I say.
Seriously. But then like and she just walks
her a life like that. But then like to your point,
that ended up backfiring majorly for kitties.
So yeah, it's her insecurities. That's what I mean.
Her insecurities are her own worst enemy.
Like that was her theme this season was like working on that.
And like, did she? Did she work on?
That the issue I think is that every season it's like, did she
work on it? Because like she's we sing the
same traits throughout every season with Kitty and it's like
she doesn't learn. I feel like every single season
we have been like, Kitty, stop interfering in relationships.
Kitty, stop doing this. Stop doing this and then we get
the same thing the next season. OK, I have in my notes.
It's like the writers are allergic to character growth for
Kitty, not other characters. No, just Kitty.
Just Kitty. It's just Kitty.
And it's really annoying after three seasons because it's like,
and I understand that meddling is her Hallmark trait.
That is the her Hallmark trait in the family of this whole
interconnected with all the movies and stuff.
But like Kitty doesn't actually grow as a character and it's
getting annoying because like this is supposed to be a like
coming of age story because it's set in high school.
But what has she like? What has she learned?
I don't think she's learned anything.
Definitely not school. She.
Learned a little bit of Korean. Oh yes, she did learn Korean off
screen. I don't know where that came
from. So like, I just, yeah, I'm, I'm
annoyed. Yeah.
I have a whole rant about that once we get into her and her
cousin, but OK. Before we get into that, though,
I just want to say something. We we joke about off screen.
That is now Canon. It is Canon.
There is no consensus on how to pronounce Mino's name there.
Is no consensus and it's Canon. Well, OK, Mino, Mino like this
season, this season, I would say that's Minho because everyone
except Kitty says Minho, which makes it no.
I don't understand why the maid character, why did no one on set
be like, all right, guys, this is how we're pronouncing his
name Because it's not even like, oh, the Americans pronouncing it
differently. No, because you pronounce it
Minho, it makes no everyone. And I'm so sorry for whatever
the pronunciation is. Minho is kind of like stuck in
my head at this point, but we'll probably say both going back and
forth because. No, it's there.
It's Canon that you can say it either way.
That's the thing. They establish that it's Canon.
All right, that's fair. And like Nino, the character
does not correct anybody. So like, it is Canon, there's no
way to. There is no consensus on how to
say his name. So you can say his name however
you want, apparently, because like Exo, Kitty has made it
Canon that you can do that, which is wild.
But it was definitely very not jarring, but just like
interesting. Hearing it, there's no
consensus, you know, like accent sort of thing.
So it could just be an accent thing, you know, the way he, you
know, himself says things in a British accent.
So it's like his English will sound different from Kitty who's
saying things in an American accent.
So maybe it's just an accent thing and it's like.
And Q's like I'm gonna go with. That's how you pronounce your.
Pronunciation of it. No, but like if he's saying 1,
you know, like if he says one word in in British English and
it sounds completely differently because the accent, but Kitty
says it's the same word. Like maybe that's just the
situation going on here that that's being canonized, which is
fine because it's an International School.
People are going to have different accents.
But to your point, even people who speak in an American accent
say like it. Nobody says it the same way,
which is it's just funny because he's a main character.
And it's like, that's a detail the writers of like the
producers are just like, it is odd.
That's all I'm saying. That's like, it's a bad thing.
It's just like weird. It's just weird.
I've never encountered. That, yeah, because it's like
not weird, it's like just interesting to choose to like
just ignore that or and if it's on purpose, like it's weird
that. He's a main character.
Thing that they're choosing to do but who knows just.
Ignoring that, who knows? Who knows?
All right, what else do you want
to talk about? I mean, we can keep talking
about Kitty, but that might lead into some ranting.
I would just say that going along the lines of what we were
talking about previously, it was a little painful watching Kitty
always trying to fix things because like, she thinks that
she's the best matchmaker and problems that solver despite
everyone around her telling her otherwise.
Especially at that music video shoot for Eunice when she was
just trying to be helpful. I was like, girl, girl.
The best thing you can do right now is be a family on the wall
'cause that's what they need. Yeah, I know you're not part of
the. Production.
And then like she ends up just spilling juice all over Eunice.
And this is after her stealing Eunice's dress.
Now granted, Yuri put her in this dress.
Why Yuri thought that that was even a good idea, I don't
understand. I mean, Yuri was drunk, wasn't
she? So like that's true 100% blame
her. But like, yeah, that was just be
like, yeah, I'm going to take clothes out of a random closet
on a mega yacht. That's a great idea.
Look, that was insane for yeah, like she was not like mentally
all there. So like, the Kitty was sober and
was like, yeah, let's do it. Like, yeah, no common sense
there whatsoever. And I don't know.
But like, this is this. I think.
Yeah, I think that the theme of this season was just like
kitties, Kitty has been chasing men and women, boys and girls
for like 2 seasons after she's like left day and then she's
like I'm floundering trying to figure my shit out, which is
like normal, that's normal coming of age stuff.
And then she like finally gets somebody in a monogamous ish
situation and then is super insecure because she doesn't
know what to do when she's in that situation.
She's always pushing other people to get in that situation.
Now here she is and doesn't know how to handle it and so like
she's fumbling everything which is like valid.
That's a valid coming of age thing.
But like she like majorly fumbles high stakes shit like
poor Eunice's like thing. But like you, just seems to be
at the brunt end of it every single time.
I know to an outsider it would look like Kitty's obsessed with
the sabotaging her it. Really does like it doesn't read
well for. And like, something that really
has been really bothering me watching it and re watching this
season is that she never goes to check on you Eunice after the
yacht party. No, she.
Does and like that's. A good point.
If she like, she's such a fixer and if she's truly saw Eunice as
her friend, she would have stopped that party.
She would have been like, hold up, hold up, I can fix this.
Let's go and drag Eunice back, switch the dresses and make sure
everything's right. But no, she only cared about
herself in that moment. Right.
It was about me, know? Like she didn't give a shit
about Eunice, That's the thing. Like, yeah.
And like for Eunice, really does get the end of everything.
Of the plot lines of everything, yeah, Eunice can screw this
season. Oh, for Eunice, I don't know.
All right, Speaking of you, before we get back to Kitty,
before Eunice, can we go to the Speaking of Kitty's insecurity
and Eunice, can we talk about the Mino Eunice situation
because they he gets to be her manager because coincidence.
And then Kitty ends up in an insecurity situation when it
comes between the manager and his and the talent.
And I just have to say for anybody who's mad about this
plot line, like the bond between a manager and the talent is
basically a very deep partnership that can rival a
romantic relationship in terms of time, trust, labor,
vulnerability. Like if you want a great example
of what this is really like, go watch the French show Call My
Agent, because it very much shows you just how much of their
life the manager has to dedicated to the talent.
And as a as an aside, there's a sapphic relationship in there
that's one of my favorites. But so just go check that out.
It's queer. But yeah, like, so like, and,
and Nina was somebody who grew up in the entertainment industry
and like would be understanding of or would be prepared for how
much time it's going to take to manage somebody like that,
especially a rising star who, like, is going to need to do
more than an established star, like now to like, get her name
fully out there. And so like, you would think
he'd be able to communicate this to Kitty, and maybe he does.
And Kitty just goes in one ear out the other.
We just don't see it because it's off screen because a lot of
things happen off screen. But here's the deal.
Like the whole this whole fuck shit happens when Eunice
contacts him to be like don't tell Kitty, which leads to him
lying to Kitty. And I can see some people being
like, well Nino should have never lied to her.
Like yeah, I agree it's wrong that he lied in that situation.
However, I understand why he lied, particularly why he lied
to Kitty because see her track record when it comes to
sensitive information biggest. Blabber mouth.
Ever. I know and like yes, yes, to be
fair to Kitty, Kitty's heart is always in the right place.
It is, but her execution is usually messy and sometimes and
something that involve Eunice's privacy like this is something
he is the managers obligated to protect, like probably legally
with like Ndas and shit. So like you can't really get mad
at him be like, oh, he's a bad boyfriend because he lied to her
there. It's like no, no, no, this was
his job this to do this. And like I under like he was
probably legally obligated to like honestly not tell Kitty
about this because like what happens when you tell Kitty
stuff like everything like she immediately starts telling
people and it's like you can't trust she would get arrested
because NDA is breaking NDA's left right.
Like honestly, they probably should have had her sign 1 when
it came to just being friends with Eunice.
She would get. Sued immediately because she
would break that NDA the second she signed it.
That's what I'm saying. She's as far as getting arrested
for breaking her ND as because like she could not be trusted.
So I know that was a point of drama between like Nino and
Kitty, but I like I think he did the right personally think he
did the right thing, not morally right, but like what was right
for that situation? Because if he would have been
like, I have to talk to Eunice, Kitty would have ran.
She was so insecure at that point.
She would have ran with it, dug shit up on her own, like you
know what I mean? She would have caused more
trouble like. No, especially and I think he
and Amino. Knows her well enough is the
thing. Like he knows her extremely
well. And for Eunice to be like, don't
tell Kitty I need to talk to you, it had to be in something
serious. So like because Eunice didn't
seem like right the type of person to send those messages
Willy nilly like that's why he comes running at the end when
she's like 911SOS and he's like, what is wrong?
I'm here. First of all, love him right?
But also like they even they the show itself spent a fair amount
of time planting in our heads that Eunice is into Mino like
especially with the way that she kept.
They tried. They tried.
It didn't, it didn't hit me at
all. It was it was only because like
she kept like interfering, like getting in the middle in the
Busan episode, the first episode and and just again, it's the
manager. It's the manager.
Yeah, like honestly, but. The season, I will say, was
extremely predictable. Yes, it was.
It was extreme. Everything was predictable.
About it, I didn't predict one thing and that was really bad
because I usually predict that and I didn't anyway, they did
get a scene in front of the cherry blossom tree and that,
that's why I was like, you guys are trying too hard now you're
trying. Exactly as I mean, I'm like.
But like, also the the what what Minho did wrong in that
situation was that he didn't notice that it was literally
directly outside Kitty's window. Yeah.
That was a stupid place to meet. Also.
You just never. Would have told him this
information out. I get you could overhear it in
the dorms but like you find somewhere else that's not
private. I know that was a really stupid
idea. For both of them, but also he
didn't know what was going on, to be honest, to be fair to him.
But like there was no that happened off screen.
To like where to meet, but what would she like?
Just meet me out the tree right by kitties with me.
Yeah, seriously. No, that was the writers trying
to be like this. It looks symbolism.
There's actually something going on here, even though it's
completely obvious, but it's not.
Yeah. They tried.
No, that was for Kitty. That was, too.
Hard in that scene that made it not land.
That's what I mean. This season was just so
predictable. I had less fun.
I will say I had less fun watching this season than the
other seasons just because the writing was very, it was
extremely predictable. Everything was predictable.
Honestly, I even predicted LJ was coming back.
I was like, oh, they're going to bring her back.
They're paralleling, you know, and Kitty with Peter.
I figured that out for the first episode.
I was like, that's why we're doing all that.
And then there we go, like, yeah, it was very predictable.
Anyway, the only element that I didn't see coming is Marius.
I did not predict Marius. How could I?
He just. Yeah, he.
Just showed up so I didn't predict.
Any thoughts about? Him.
Well, first, I didn't predict, just like with the storyline we
were talking about, I didn't predict that Eunice.
Eunice thought she was pregnant. I should have.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, again, I think it probably briefly cost my head, but I
didn't think that they were going to go there.
Oh, actually wait, before we go to Marius on that thought,
something that I did actually like really I thought was a good
thing and I'm surprised they wrote it in there with Eunice is
the fact that. So just to round up the Eunice
thing, I feel bad for her on multiple fronts.
She went through hell this season.
But I do understand the plot line of being like, I got my
dream. It's not what I want.
I tried it, it's not for me. I'm going to step back.
Like good for her. That's a real thing.
The other thing I liked about her plot line is the the
pregnancy fake out thing is real, like what she went through
because like with women, they don't because we don't talk
about sex education in like America or like what women's
bodies actually go through. So like that is a thing like if
women get so stressed out, the body is like now is not the time
to harbor life and that can alter your menstrual cycle and
stuff. So that's a real thing that
women can go through that like maybe most women don't know
about because we're not allowed to learn about our bodies
because patriarchy. So I'm surprised they had that
in there. I'm like, that's actually a real
thing and they actually put it in the show.
And I'm surprised because of how just like coincidental,
fantastical everything was. The season I was like, that was
real. She actually got a real plot
line that I was surprised and it's not common.
So I applaud them for doing that.
That was a good touch to have that like moment with Unison Day
where they were. Talking and she was like
explaining I love. I think this happened to me.
I loved. Unison day.
They were just. They're such wholesome
characters and like they're so good together because they truly
do care about each other and like rewatching, they're
unproblematic. The only.
Amongst all the problematic people, basically.
When I was rewatching the show, I did see like they did try to
drop a hint that it was day because when he brought the
macarons too, the music video show, he's like, this is her
favorite from Paris, her Paris stop, which I mean like could
easily be played off. Like she talked about them all
the time, like on the phone. But that was them trying to be
like, hey, pay attention to this.
I mean, also, like I wouldn't have been wrong.
I mean this because this is a wholesome quote air quote high
school show. But like she easily could have
hooked up with a star because why not?
She's she's getting into fame. Like fuck the hot guy.
Like, go for it, Eunice. We don't care.
We're not, we ain't judging you, girl.
Like, but we had to add some morality in there.
That's why it was day. Yeah, because we're always
teaching life lessons like hideous.
But I'm not mad. I'm not mad at her.
I mean, I feel bad for her because she like went through it
emotionally this season, but I liked her plot line, honestly.
And and the resolution was day and day, getting his like
family, you know, get in the restaurant and all of that was
really cute too. Like I like their plot lines.
I thought they were. Good.
Yeah, I thought they were very good.
I liked seeing the interaction between Eunice and Mino and all
of that. We can talk about that in a
little bit too when we get more into Mino, but.
Sure. Yeah.
All right. Marius.
Any thoughts on him?
Here's the Who's the wild card this season?
Marius, I really did not like when you showed up.
You're not supposed to like him. He's getting in the way of
everything. He's ruining everything.
I did. I'm glad like that.
This queer triangle did get so much screen time, though,
because it was like showing that they really did care about the
other characters. It's not.
We did get a lot of storylines and we this is probably like I
would say plot B because we focused a lot on this story arc.
And Marius, he grew on me, I'll have to say.
And like, he really pissed me off at first, but I'm glad they
didn't have him be the instigator for too long.
Like he he was for like 2 1/2 three episodes.
And then he became more likable when he talked to Kitty and
actually like was real and figured out where his actions
were coming from and talked to Q about what was going on.
I mean, this, this whole triangle, I first of all, it
just makes me think, is it really that hard to not cheat on
the person you are with currently?
Because that's what this show makes it seem like.
There's a lot of that. Yeah, a little bit, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, sorry.
Now, there's just one thing that I really liked with Marius and
Q, and it's when Q was going through Marius's phone and
trying to delete the photo that he sent to him over the summer,
and Marius tells him, I deleted the photo, but you can't delete
the fact that you sent it. Yeah, Yeah.
It was so good because, like, it's the absolute truth.
And Q needed, first of all, Q needed to mention it to Jin when
he informed him of who Marius was.
And then also he needs to think about there's a reason that he
did send it in the first place. And like, that's what he has to
figure out because you don't just do that out of.
Nowhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have.
I have the love triangle situation.
That's a different point, but I'll get to them after to
piggyback off you. But first, I just want to talk
about Marius as a person. So I I agree.
I loved him as the villain, honestly, in the beginning, to
your point, like even though like, yeah, I don't know, I
liked him as the villain because he was basically Q's scorned X.
And like, again, we we've been in this situation where we have
like XS like Kitty was days X, but then they like did it as
this like cutesy thing. Not really like jealousy, like
coming back to ruin my life kind of plot line.
So like because we have people in more established
relationships now, we have the ability to do that plot line.
So I liked him coming in out of nowhere, being this like huge
part of their friend group. Excuse me?
He comes back, he's like a chaos agent in terms of like the
stability of all the couples. And then like he comes in as the
scorned X and just like starts scorching stuff.
So I like that. First of all, I thought it was
good drama situation based on where all the characters were.
But to your point, they humanize him when you actually get to
know him because you don't actually know him.
You just have this superficial image of who he is, how Mino
sees him. He's like, oh, he's the party
guy like this and that. And then Q's like, oh, he was
like my closeted boyfriend who left me and like for
heterosexuality at some point. And then like, so you get all
these like negative and then like superficial impressions.
But then like it's because the character hasn't opened up.
And then when the character open UPS, you're like, oh, he's a
human being, which is just how humans work.
So loved all of that. Again, very predictive based on
this show, but what I didn't predict and what I loved and my
favorite scene with him is when they're at the amusement park
and he has the heart to heart with Kitty on the bench because
not only does it humanize him to Kitty, but they bond over being
chaotic bisexuals. Like that is actually what that
scene is about. So I really, I love the
character. I love that scene for the
characters because they see each other as like, Oh, you're we
have more in common than we have different.
And it's but it which I love, but it's also a good
representation moment. OK.
Because Marius bonds with Kitty over basically trying to figure
his sexuality out. He's like girls versus boys.
That's where I was at. And that's when I fucked shit up
with Q. So things got messy with Q
because he couldn't figure it out.
And then he's like, oh, you wouldn't understand that Kitty.
But then Kitty does understand better than anybody else in that
moment because like that's been Season 1 and Season 2 of XO
Kitty. And so I love it because we, we
rarely get depictions of male characters discussing their
sexuality and confusion around that.
Like we're getting, we got in that scene with Marius and Kitty
and the fact that he was explaining his exploration of
that, not just this like disgust.
I don't know what's wrong with me.
Like the toxic masculinity response.
He was like, I was trying to figure out what I wanted, and I
fucked it up because I'm a human and humans make mistakes.
And he was so vulnerable about it.
And like, again, we rarely get that with male characters.
And so I appreciate that scene for what it was and the
representation that was in that scene.
And I love how it was written and acted.
And I thought that was probably one of the best scenes in this
season, to be honest with you. And I really enjoyed having
that. Yeah, that was a really great
scene and just a great way to show that they're on the same
page with him actually calling her Kitty for the first time,
which was sweet. Yeah, because they have more in
common than they have different. And yeah, I just love that.
It was a chaotic bisexual bonding moment.
That was lovely. OK.
And then to transition to the gay triangular situationship
thing with Marius Q and Jen that you talked about, this was messy
gay drama I could get behind in the season.
This is probably one of the highlights, I guess, for me as
well. So like again, to sum it up, Q
is mad at Marius for being a confused bisexual and dumping
him in the past. But then Q became a confused gay
when Marius comes back into the picture and he's got all his
unresolved feelings. And then Jin gets mad at Q when
Q chooses to quote figure things out with Marius, and it's like
we're trapped in confused gay purgatory with this triangle.
So it's a funny, like, not funny funny, but it's like a clever,
interesting dynamic that we have going on.
I thought it was like fun messy gay drama.
If we're going to have messy gay drama, you know what I mean?
They. They were messy gays, they were
and messy bisexuals, etcetera. And one thing I do love from
this dynamic is when we get the dinner at Dave's restaurant and
Jin's mother and Jin's mother, Q's mother is there.
And I love how fiercely Jin defends Q to Q's mother, which
leads to the conversation between Q and his mother in the
car ride home, which is probably one of my favorite scenes in the
series as well because it was like she opened up about like
herself to her son. And it's kind of another.
It's very similar to the Marius Kitty scene where it's like we
have more in common than you think we do.
And it's like, I was a messy teenager just like you were.
Even though I'm perfect, I seem to be perfect now because kids
see their parents as perfect. It she was like, no, I also make
mistakes. I learned from them.
I just don't want you to repeat them.
And I want you to do better than me.
And it's like one of those situations where he couldn't see
that she couldn't see how she was being hard on him.
And then like they bond and I especially love in the car ride
where she's like, don't let go of gin because he seemed he
cared. The way he behaved shows that he
cares more about you than what I think of him, which means he his
love for you is real. Like that's real.
The fact that he was so brave to stand up to me in Asian culture
where like you never do that, where like that goes to show how
much Gin cares about you. The fact that he bypass that
huge social pot like to do that for Jed and she recognized it
and I do love that mom was aware of that and was like the fact
that he did that means like. Don't let that happen That
that's probably my favorite part too, is just when she's like, he
cares more about you than what I think.
That's the alert love you deserve.
And it's just so sweet. And like, just to see a mom say
that, be like, she's not caring about herself in that moment.
She truly cares about what's best for her son because she
could have been like, oh, yeah, I love Marius.
Like he's he's so sweet. And I like my buddy because he's
just doing what she wants. But like you said, it's if he
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Do it. All right, let's let's you know,
let's talk about Yuri. We haven't talked about Yuri in
a while. And I was afraid the writers
were going to forget about her this season, but they did not.
And I was pleasantly surprised. She kind of got she got like
pushed to the sidelines in Season 2 a little bit.
It's very all right. But I want to talk about her and
Day and their whole situation because this was a really
interesting season for them because of the whole like
lawsuit thing. Their roles were reversed pretty
significantly in terms of power and money.
And that made things awkward for a bit, especially for Yuri,
because Yuri has never been in a position of being not in power
when it comes to Day. She's like basically his boss
for like a long time. And then that gets reversed and
it takes a bit. But I do like that ultimately,
they help each other out when it comes to navigating their new
lives. And like, OK, we knew that Day
was going to help Yuri because that's who he is as a human
being. He's just very nurturing and
caring and would do anything to help people.
But I was pleasantly surprised to see that there was like, it
was mutual in terms of like, here's how you navigate having
money. Here's how you navigate not
having money and like, make the most of it kind of thing.
So on the latter half of that, when they were at the theme
park, like Day is the one that helped facilitate fun at the
theme park without having VIP status for Yuri.
And Yuri ended up having a great time because she was like, I
don't know how to do this without like attendance and
stuff like that. And he's like, I got you.
He's like, here's all the street foods.
Here's how you like navigate lines like, and they ended up
having a really great day together.
Like you know what I mean? It's so sweet to see their
friendship blossom rather than get crushed and torn apart.
Because like that easily, like she could have been resentful
because he took everything from her.
But she wasn't like, she was a person who actually understood
what was happening. And I just, I loved their growth
together. And I love the line, the the
scene in Busan at the yacht party when she's like, now I'm
the only broke. And I believe it was that Busan,
like, she's like, I'm the only broke one in her friend group.
And he's like, yeah. And then she realized that, oh,
I'm talking to the person who was the broke one of the friend
group. And she's like, I can't really
complain because this guy also had this experience.
And I think that helps them bond even more because they know
exactly where the other one is at this point.
Yeah, totally. So like Day.
Yeah. So Day helps her, like, have fun
despite not having money because, like, to her, money
equals happiness. And then she learns, oh, maybe
not. And then on the other end of
that, Yuri helps Day realize that money opens new doors,
especially the colleges that he didn't previously have access
to. So he was like, super fixated
on, like, getting the scholarship to go to 1 college.
And he's like, that's the only option for me.
And she's like, you have money now, like you have more options
than you realize. So maybe you could like take a
new look at what you want and what where you want to go that
you didn't think about because there were no other options for
you or you didn't think there were.
So I like that basically they're like, it's kind of like a grasp
is greener on the other side kind of situation where the
other person didn't was blind to it.
And then like the other character opens their eyes to
it. So it's it's kind of cute.
So they kind of in a way grow together in a way I wasn't
expecting to really see this season.
And I thought that was really cute and good.
The way it was written and the way their story progressed, I
really enjoyed. That I agree.
And something that I found interesting was I, I don't think
it was on camera. I think you just mentioned to me
briefly how you were interested to see how the money would if it
would change day. And I found it very interesting
that it did change day and the fact that he was able to buy
things and but it didn't change him as a person.
And I love that's what I figured was going to.
Happen and first of all day is a gigantic golden retriever and I
just I love him for it like he's he tries so hard to be there for
everybody love just quick shout out to that scene of him trying
to help Q through the breakup because he couldn't talk to
Kitty like he's like oh so. He's like, you're going to talk
to me about feeling. And then he's like, oh, it's my
turn again. It was so cute.
Oh my gosh, I love him. And I liked with his story that
they showed that sometimes money doesn't change you, it just
opens up more opportunities because so many times it's like,
oh, money doesn't buy happiness. Like it's even when you have a
lot of money, you're not happy. But they're showing here and
like, this is real life, like it gives you more opportunity,
opportunities to do what you want to go out there and
actually succeed. Because now his family was able
to open that restaurant and they would never have been able to do
that without the settlement. And they're actually succeeding
and, like, happier. So yeah, I, I just, I like that
comment. It's not typical for what you
see. Yeah.
So like, yeah, because I was commenting that on that, Like
how will that change day? Because it it's going to change
him because it it changes his mindset.
Because to Yuri's point, she's like, you're looking at your
life through this narrow lens, but now that you have money,
there's a bigger lens to see so you can make different choices.
So like Day will then approach life differently because he can
see options that weren't available to him, so he can
explore things that weren't available.
So it is the opportunity thing and how having options and
opportunities will ultimately change Day as a person, like
he's going to change. Change is not always a bad
thing. Like it's going to change him in
a way. So that's why I was curious.
I'm like, how will it actually change Day?
I didn't think it was going to make him evil and selfish or
like, you know, but it will change him.
And that's why like when they were at the theme park, it's
like, I'm going to buy all the food.
Like he was never in the position to do that before.
So like he turns into a philanthropist.
That's how it changed him because he couldn't be 1 before.
So it did change day. But you know, it's like giving a
golden retriever money. It's going to be very different
than giving like Lex Luthor money.
Yes, definitely. So it's it's still change like
at the end of the day. And I'll get back to something
about Yuri and her storyline that I have a slight issue with,
but I wanted just to counter the days changing.
Eunice had a storyline that we've been talking about and
like she did change because of fame.
It wasn't well, technically that's money too.
Like fame and money changed her for the worst a little bit.
Like she was ordering people around.
She was, I mean, she had to be tired like there's.
She was overwhelmed. Like she's in that position
where she's like, God, no time. You can't be mad at her for
that. But it did change her.
And but she did a great job of bringing herself back to Earth
when she was, like hit with the life crisis and just being like,
this is not what I want. Like she didn't, she didn't.
Yeah. She didn't like who she was.
She didn't like this life, and so I'm glad that she was able to
recognize that and get back to who she was because that's the
best version of her and. Yeah, she also really wasn't
prepared to be thrown into. That that was, yeah, that was
crazy. She went from zero to 100.
Yeah, and, and she was, you watched her try and navigate.
And The thing is like, you can't be mad at her.
You watched her try and navigate like the very beginning where
she started getting noticed, like at the theme park by fans.
Like she was engaging with the fans.
She's like, oh, you recognize me?
Yeah. And then she was engaging and
then she, you see how that spirals out of control.
Like you give the fans one inch, they take 10 miles from you.
And that's when it started getting to her.
She's like, Oh my God, I'm not safe anymore.
Like, so you see the way like it, it also like harped on like
toxic shipping culture and like how that ruins her life and like
takes over and then she has no life anymore.
And that's when she was like, I don't even want this.
Like, I didn't know it was going to be like this.
It's like the, you know, life of a showgirl you didn't see behind
the curtains. And now she does.
And she's like, OK, this wasn't what I thought it was.
I'm willing to step away from this.
It's not what I want. And that's and that's a valid
thing. Now, if she was somebody who was
like, no, this is what I want. I want to be AK pop star.
I don't even care what it takes. And she was so ambitious about
it that she's willing to deal with it or like present a
different way in public. Like that's fine too.
But so I like that she has let her choice and what she wanted
to do. She didn't let herself be
coerced by Mino's dad, who's like, you need to get her to do.
She signed a contract. She used to do this no matter
what. Again, she signed a contract.
So like, I don't know how she actually got out of this, you
know, legally, but you know, she didn't let herself get taken
advantage of by her manager and not manager by the producer, I
guess whatever his role was. But it helped her that she had a
manager who was her friend and was actually looking out for her
because it could easily have been her manager was like, no,
you're my ticket to money. Therefore I must coerce you into
keeping doing these things. You know what I mean?
Which that relationship can also be toxic because they're
dependent on each other for money.
So like but because Nino was true to his friendship first, it
made this more of a cutesy situation, not a this could
easily be toxic and abusive situation.
So that I think made it gave Eunice an easier Ave. to quote
go back to her normal life, go back to herself.
Even though she was herself the whole time.
She was just herself in a brand new situation.
She's learning to navigate it. And also in that culture, like,
yeah, Eunice was bossing people around because people expect her
to. They let her do that.
They tell her, you you need to tell me what to do, boss me or
like people want her to do that. So like, it's like she's playing
a role. And that's true.
That is very true and fair. Yeah.
I've you brought up how like there's a contract.
Don't know how she got it. I feel like Mino.
I don't know how I mean. First of all, we have legal.
What's legally? Bossing it, yeah, it's exo Kitty
we separate. Doesn't make any sense.
Honey, there's no reality. Yeah, this is like a fantasy AU.
If you were in an International School, it could, as a child, do
literally whatever you wanted. That is what the show is.
There's. It's not if it's real.
But I feel like Mino had to do a lot to get her out of it.
I think he sacrificed behind the scenes.
Yes. Yes, with off screen.
Off screen, he had to sacrifice a lot more than just his job and
relationship with his. Dad, I agree.
I agree. He probably had to pay some
stuff out and like, yeah, there's so much logistical
things that I think he took over himself because he is dedicated
to doing this job and I think he's going to go far in it also,
if I think that was all. But if we were to see that in
Exo Kitty, yes, he'd be the most famous manager ever because
that's just how it goes in the Exo Kitty reality.
Absolutely. Anyway, do you have anything
else about them? OK, I'm just going to say
something quick about Yuri and learning to live like a normie.
Just something that I did not like is the fact that Kitty
basically forced her to sell her clothes to go back to their
school and. Stay in there.
Seriously. And the issue was like and stay
in the dorms because first of all, Yuri could have found a new
home in another school like or at the very least she could have
lived at home to save money. She didn't live that far, I.
Know. And like, no, this was crazy.
And this was purely just for Kitty to be happy because, like,
Yuri did not have to sell the things that she valued just for
Kitty to be happy. But like, I guess maybe the show
was trying to sell the story that, like, friendship is more
valuable than possessions. But you could see, but you could
see that Yuri was like, But my possessions, they also bring me
happiness, and that's OK. Yeah, she was also.
Yuri is like, this is the all I have left of my old life.
Yeah. So like, she just, she her life
just got turned upside down in the matter of weeks.
And she's like, this is all I have.
Kitty and Kitty's like, yeah, but you can sell it to pay for
this semester. Yeah, just the semester.
What are we doing next? That's what I mean.
I'm like, I'm like, girl, yeah. What's she doing next semester?
Girl? She What do you?
Like and like. Again, cuz Kitty like is as a
girl of privilege, she was just like, dad, I'm doing this, I'm
going to the school like it's happening and it's just like she
gets what she wants all the time.
And it's just like, yeah, Yuri, if you, you know, this is the
toxic version of like you put your mind to it.
You can do whatever you want, but I'm like, girl, there's no
longitudinal planning here that like Yuri's broke next semester.
Like then she's still in this situation.
This is a Band-Aid and then she doesn't have clothes to sell.
Then why like? Honestly, you can only do this.
Yuri's storyline really made me disconnect from the other
characters because I'm, it made me realize, Oh yeah, all these
characters have a lot of money. They can literally do whatever
it why do I care? So it really I it made me more
connected to Yuri, but was more like, why are we here with the
rest of the characters? I mean, yeah, that's how I feel
about rich people problems all the time.
I mean that's if you go back, watch season 1, Season 2, that's
day. Day is that character.
You're just like, he's like, I can't fuck up anything because
if I do, I'm out of school and there's no second chance for me
And like that's. What actually matters?
And through this whole thing. Yep.
But yeah, no, that was crazy. The way it was framed as like
kidding her friends together. And therefore sell all your
stuff so I can have you as my roommate.
I was. Like yes, in the dorm with her
ex. In the door you got telling her
girl, I think she doesn't. She doesn't tell them like she
doesn't tell you like Juliana or like.
Kitty and you do it again. Like if she stayed at home and
lived at home, she would have still been going to school with
them. They still would have seen each
other. Yeah, totally.
First of all, they could have seen each other no matter what,
because you know you still live in the.
Same state they're in school we always forget about.
We forgot that they're in classes this semester also.
Well, we did have a few classes only when it pertained to Kitty
and not being good at it, right? And then offspring.
She got good at it. Somehow, very quickly, I have to
write that paper. That's my question anyway.
Where was I? Nope, I lost it.
Something like, yeah, I guess I got it.
If she lives in the Yeah, so like.
There's that. She could.
They could have seen each other no matter what.
But if she lived at home, she could have had more money to pay
for the next semester. Yeah, totally.
So it makes no sense. It was purely selfish for a
Kitty. It was.
It also is convenient for the writers because they need them
all to live together so that Juliana and Yuri, but it's not.
Like she can't just visit either.
She could just visit them and have sleepovers.
It makes no sense anyway. It doesn't make sense.
No, it doesn't. It's because this is fantasy
school. This is a fantasy story.
If you didn't think you liked fantasy genre, this is a fantasy
genre actually. But it's just it, I'm not
kidding. It's just in modern, a modern
setting. This is a fantasy story.
Fantasy YA story. That makes sense.
All right, since we're here, since we're back in the dorms,
let's talk about the sapphic triangle.
I guess that they are trying to create for drama reasons.
So something I did and that's that pertains to Juliana, Yuri,
and Praveena. And before we jump into that, I
just want to talk about like how Yuri and Praveena becoming
friends was not something I expected, but I'm glad it
happened. I thought it was really, really
sweet in the beginning where they were just genuinely bonding
because they had things in common and I like that part of
it. I like that when Praveena bought
the I think it was, was it tea or whatever the drink for the
drink for Yuri and was like, and Yuri thought she was just like
pitying her because she didn't have enough money, but she's
like, no, I truly wanted to buy this for you.
I it was not because of anything.
I just want to. I think we should talk and get
to know each other for Juliana. And like that makes total sense
and I did. If it would have gone the way
that it could have, it would have been really cute and really
cool to like have that friend group and have them be close.
But XO Kitty can't let them be happy.
No, no one's allowed to be happy.
Well cuz I think what this season did is it established all
the end game ships cuz that's all it did.
That's true. I Yeah.
So. The end game ship is we have one
more. Season this is this is how we're
gonna. Yeah, that's where we're headed.
So here's what I want to say because to your point, the
Provina and Juliana breakup came out of nowhere.
Like it literally like Juliana had like 3 lines and then this
cams like I was at the beginning of the show I was like they're
Pluto and Juliana because she's barely in it, barely has lines.
And then like the Provina Juliana breakup.
They've Pluto Provina even more. Yes, she got Pluto the most, but
here's the thing about the breakup.
I appreciate how the two Why is it that the side characters are
more mature than the main character?
Because, OK, because it's less interesting, I guess.
Not for me, but. I don't understand it but yeah,
like their conversation was the most adult breakup I've ever
seen and they're like 17. OK.
And honestly, like, and then watching their breakup and the
way they handled it, like, Julianna Provina might have been
the most mature relationship in the whole series.
And I'm honestly upset the writers ended it, to be honest.
Yeah. And the way that Praveena was
like, I deserve to have to be with somebody who gets excited
when I walk into the room to like know that she deserves that
type of love. And she's like the way that you
look at Yuri when she walks into a room.
So like she's. Which like, did that really
happen? Did the writers really show us
that they barely did? Yeah.
That she has residual feeling? Like yeah she had like 3 scenes
preceding this so this felt like it came.
Out, yeah, They needed more screen time, definitely.
I feel like they had more. They had to have had more scenes
that got cut. And maybe they cut them.
But like that was that was terrible to cut because we
needed more. We are getting the very least
amount of growth, not growth, but like on screen depiction of
this relationship because they're always getting
sidelined. Yeah, the.
Sapphic plot line got Plutoed for the gay boy plot line and
Kitty and MiTo. That's what happened.
But here's the deal about the Juliana Provina thing.
I am upset that they broke them up because I think they were the
most mature relationship. But I here's what I think
happened. I anticipate the writers had a
difficult time concocting drama between the two of them because
this relationship was so mature or other thought the writers
ignored the lesbians all together until they needed a
deep plot slash, something else for Yuri to do that wasn't too
deep because I throw Yuri in it and they're like, yeah, they
have feelings still for each other, even though I've we've
barely showed you anything on screen that corroborates that
They're like, I think the lesbians.
Are the. Here's my.
Theory and or they're just like there's no drama.
My theory is this. They did not.
They are like the sapphic women are not giving us enough of our
goal like money and views I guess.
Correct. Yes, now that.
Is that is correct? But we still have that audience,
so we need to make them a little happy.
So let's throw them a bone, because apparently we want
Juliana and Yuri together. I don't care who's with.
Who? I just want them all I was.
I wanted Juliana and Provina together honestly.
They, yeah, they would have been great together.
However, they jumped into that relationship where Juliana
didn't have time to process what happened, like she didn't have
time to heal. So like they they just, she just
got into that relationship. That is true.
But like she was like Juliana
betrayed me. I mean jury betrayed me.
So I make it. I like her pining still.
I don't know. It was just there's not enough
of her. They're awesome.
You don't get to see her process any of this or like her pining.
It's just none of it's there. Just be like off screen.
This is still happening by the way, and it's like.
What? They also keep harping on the
first love thing like you can't get over your.
That's what I don't like. Yes, that's what I don't like.
Except with Q, he's the only one where they're just like, he's
not into his first love anymore. He has Jin now who's better?
I'm like, well, I mean, again, they gave the gay, the gay men,
all the actual character growth. I'm like, yeah, the lesbians
just got. That's what I mean.
They gave a deep plot. They had to give a plot to
Yuriana, to Yuri that that wasn't deep.
So they'd be like, oh, she's still hung up on her first love.
Sure, the audience will believe. That I mean, like The thing is,
it would be more plausible if Kitty was somewhat in the day
still, because like Kitty, that's what I mean.
Like it's only the lesbians thought that so.
It's a it was a very lazy, they're just like, we'll we'll
lean on this trope without giving you any substance to back
this up. Like there's no receipts really
for it. It's just a trope that they
leaned into. So that's why I think like they
forgot about the lesbians. And then they're just like,
shit, we need a another subplot. Yuri needs something else to do
that isn't being poor. So let's just bring Juliana back
into it. Honestly don't think that.
They're out of nowhere. Either because that's what
that's what's being shown. The writers ignored the lesbians
all together until they needed a D blot.
Yeah, that's what I think they did.
And again, you're again all this.
This show really hinges on relationship drama.
And there is no drama between Provina and Juliana because they
were in such a mature relationship.
I think they had to break them up because there is no they
can't use them for drama. What's the point of characters
if you can't use them for drama? They could have been the wise
lesbians that taught Kitty how to actually be in a
relationship. Kitty would never listen to
them. Kitty doesn't listen to Kitty.
She doesn't. That's Exo Kitty.
That's the subtitle. Like the whatever Exo Kitty
Kitty doesn't listen to. Anyone.
No, not even herself. It's crazy.
OK, Speaking of Kitty. So Kitty and Yuri, let's talk
about this real quick. They mutually friend zoned each
other from the first scene. If anyone out there was like oh
will Kitty and Yuri be a thing? No immediately they they both
friend zone each other and season 3 proceeded as if they
were never into each other at all.
Yes, like they just erased. They didn't like it ever
happened. So I was like, wasn't there that
whole thing where they kissed in the last season?
Like there was nothing there. There was nothing, No.
And so that ship is officially lying in a watery grave next to
the Titanic, like they were just like they are friends mutually.
They're never going to talk about this.
It was just it was annoying, just like, and I'm not like mad
that kitty's with me. You know, it has nothing.
It's not that at all. Like I'm just like we had this
plot line. It was like a big deal.
And then like it really had no resolution whatsoever.
They were just like an off screen like again, what's off
screen Jet? They mutually were just like,
we're friends. So, and here's the thing.
And like I have to harp on this because I understand like saffic
people are going to be upset because that was the ship
everybody wanted because like we all would like a main character
to be at a saffic relationship. And I, I do, I very much
understand that. And if you're here and you're
upset about that, go watch Thai girl love media because you'll
there's a plethora of women dating women and that's the
whole plot. So like, just go over there and
like eat your fill because it's glorious.
And so in Western slash American media, it's extremely
frustrating to like never be able to have a sapphic queer
lead that's in a sapphic relationship.
So I understand that frustration.
I'm with you, I get that. However, just because Kitty is
not actively dating a woman does not negate her queerness at all.
In fact, they did still put her in situations that, like, as a
bisexual woman that were unique to her, that could happen.
So the conversation with Marius where he was like explaining his
past, trying to figure out being, you know, bisexual,
pansexual. He didn't label it, but it
doesn't. And he doesn't have to.
But she understood him there. And then at the very first
episode where she's like insecure about Nino being a
manager and posting photos for work of him with his client.
And she's like, oh, I'll make it seem like I'm having the best
summer ever. She did the unique queer human
thing that only a career woman can do where she had the picture
with the hands with different, like nail Polish to be like,
yeah, I'm with a woman because again, she's still bisexual at
the end of the day. Like it doesn't erase that just
because she's with a man, like it doesn't.
And so like, I'm not mad about it, but the fact that Kitty is
not with Yuri and that's not the end game ship, I'm not mad about
that. I'm just like, I feel like that
whole thing, like it's almost like Yuri was used for drama.
Like, it's like Kitty's bisexuality was used strictly
for drama. And then like, you know, and
then they just like, not ignored it, but just like abruptly
didn't even finish like ending. They didn't really give a
resolution to that. They just kind of like off
screen moved on. And that really is like
upsetting, you know, and like, kind of like, OK, so you used us
for shipping with Kitty, like the sapphic, you know, people
for shipping and then threw us aside.
And then in this season, we're just like, you'll get some
crumbs with Juliana and Yuri. That's like also clearly an
afterthought in the writers room.
So it's just like, I'm tired of being in this situation with
sapphic media in like Western media, which is why I don't even
watch it anymore because it's like, what's the point?
This is not it's not fulfilling for me.
It's like why I'm watching this so Kitty can have no character
growth. Like like Nina was great.
I think every character in the show was great this season
except Juliana because they forgot about her and then Kitty.
Everybody else was great. I was.
Pretty much. Sorry if that bothers anybody
but like. Yeah, I know.
I'm sorry. Just honestly watching the show
I'm like, I was more invested in anything but Kitty.
Yeah, I was into Mino's manager career like I was in today.
I was, I was into the the boy love triangle with Q, Jen and
Marius. I thought Marius was
interesting. Madison had a side plot going on
with her bestie where I'm like, are they dating?
What are they? Doing OK.
Just real quick, I love Madison. Just I need her to get more
because there's so much potential there with her
character. Yeah.
It's like, I know she's like the comedic relief, but like you
could give her stuff too. And like we saw a little.
She totally could a little bit in this season.
I would just love to see more of Madison.
She was hilarious. And then day in Eunice, like I
like every I like all the stuff going, even Kitty's like family
stuff like LJ was back. Like it's just like the writers
are just allergic to character growth for Kitty.
And it's like we're three seasons in, guys.
Like what are we doing? Is Kitty like not going to have
any character growth at all in Four Seasons?
Like what are we doing? Honestly, we're.
Still at elementary. Very frustrating to all the boys
I've loved before, right? I'm like, what are we doing
anyway? So that's Kitty and Yuri, I
guess. Let's see, last, last thing I
have before I just have like a giant Kitty rant is LJ and
Kitty. So I was very glad that LJ was
back and like in more than one episode because we had we when
she first showed up. We're like, Oh, I hope I'm like,
oh man, I hope she comes back Because like I feel like they're
mirroring the shutting up a foil between like LJ's relationship
and then Kitty and me now, which they were because they're not
subtle, but we didn't do the Oh my my sister's on the phone with
me thing. Like they actually had her in
multiple episodes. So it was really nice to see
her. And just the they're really
hinting super heavily that like LJ and Peter's relationship is
going to mirror Kitty and Mino's like the long distance things
that work out in the end. We're an end game ship no matter
what. So like they really are just
hyping harping on like the end game ship thing with you know,
and Kitty, which again, I'm not mad about, but I'm just like you
guys are not not subtle with your writing.
No. Which like, it's Aya story, I
guess you don't have to be because that the audience
doesn't pick up on subtlety as well I guess.
I wish Laura Jean came in and did more to like teach Kitty
because like when she was there, she's like, I came here to help
Kitty, but really, she helped me more than I thought.
That's a whole other rant that I have.
Sorry, 100%. Yeah, OK.
But yeah, no, you go ahead. Go ahead, you can.
I'll just jump into my Kitty rant now.
Sorry sorry I just lost all thoughts.
That's OK. What else did you have before?
We were going to jump into Kitty and me now unless you want to
talk about me know as a separate.
Person I don't know, we can just I mean I only have that he's
like, I love this growth and stuff and like.
I think it's worth saying I don't have any other points
other than like the issues I have with Kitty.
I mean, I'm just I'm glad that we did get an episode where
Laura Jean actually visited Kitty because I was burning that
when we had that little bit in the summer that like that was
going to be it and like the rest, rest would be text.
And so it's like great to have because I was worried that they
were going to not ruin, but like misuse their opportunity to have
that actress in the show because there's so much ample
opportunity with the two of them and the storylines possible.
Now, I'm not totally thrilled with how things went, but I
think it was sweet to see the sister bond because that I feel
like that's the heart of the movies as well.
So yes, and like we really got to get back to that and like the
family aspect of it. Well, I think they're doing a
found family aspect. That's all the friends, which is
fair. Which, yeah, and that that's
fine too. Yeah, but I'm glad they used I'm
with you. I'm glad they had the actual
sister bonding stuff. And then they brought in their
cousin too, which was also really sweet because it's like
Kitty has connected with her, you know, mom's family also,
it's not just her family back in the States.
And so I liked having those 3 characters together.
I don't like how that all went down in that scene, but which
I'll rant about in a second. But I enjoyed having like the
three of them interacting at all because I didn't think they were
they were going to do that, but I was glad they did.
Yeah, I agree. OK, Speaking of Juan and Kitty,
OK, so this is going to, if you love Kitty, just skip ahead like
20 minutes because I'm going to rant about Kitty for a minute,
OK? And it's mostly it's not Kitty.
Oh, it is Kitty, but it's the way they write Kitty.
And my first complaint about Kitty is that we are three
seasons in and like Kitty's main character syndrome really needs
to change because every season she is the same thing with
Kitty. She unintentionally harms people
by meddling in their lives, which causes issues, but
inevitably to your point, you sent him a second ago.
By the end, whoever's life she meddled in thanks her, which
reinforces this behavior. So Kitty faces no actual
consequences, but she fucked shit up.
It is my least acts, my least favorite aspect of XO Kitty.
And it that's really hard to say because like she's the main
character and I like really hate her behavior that drives all of
this. And it's a lot of this is a me
problem because like I can't stand people who meddle in other
people's lives in real life. It drives me insane because it's
to me, it's such like a invasion of privacy.
It's like ripping people with their autonomy.
It's like people don't behave or have no empathy for you, things
like that. So personally, it's a pet peeve
in life, the kitty's behavior. And then narratively in the
story, it bothers me because Kitty never grows out of this.
And the drama from season 1 to season 2 to season 3 just feels
really repetitive because it always follows the same format.
It's the same thing for three seasons straight.
So it's like feels like lazy writing because you're hinging
on this one character trait that she she has from when she was a
child in the movies and you're like, we can never change this
one character trait she had as a child, even though she's almost
she's an adult now and she's still behaving childishly.
And it's like, why are we still doing this?
Like it just feels it's boring after a while.
Why as a story? It's still in romantic fantasy
world like. I don't I mean romantic fantasy
world's fine, but like why must she keeps behaving the same way
and it keeps causing problems and then like at the end they're
like thanks Kitty for causing problems.
I better off because you caused problems every season.
It's always that it's so annoying after a while like have
her do something else. It can still be driven by the
fact that she wants to match make but like why must it always
follow that format is my problem.
It is boring and it makes it predictive.
So it's like not fun to watch because I'm like, I already know
what's going to happen. Kitty, who, who's her target
this time that she's going to? Who's life she going?
To the answer is. Everyone.
It is literally everyone, every single season.
OK, and then OK and then in this season, season 3.
I never loved a character in the series more than when Juwan
tells Kitty off because Kitty lures her into the aquarium as a
bribe to extend her homework assignment.
But of course Kitty couldn't leave it at that.
She then sets up her cousin on a blind date with Alex, another
professor at the school, and Joanna rightfully points out how
Kitty is putting her teaching job in jeopardy twice.
Like this wasn't the first time she did this and clearly it
never crosses Kitty's mind. Kitty sees the world through
rose colored glasses like an optimistic child.
This is what I mean. She they never have this
character grow out of childhood and she only sees the romantic
potential when when her cousin with her cousin's happiness
without actually listening to her cousin about what she wants
and needs. So then I love the moment where
Joanne calls Kitty out and then she rescinds the deadline
extension and adds consequences, which is you have to write 10
more pages than everybody else, OK.
And honestly, Kitty needs tough love and accountability like she
needs it because she's basically lived her entire life without it
and hasn't grown into a responsible adult who's ready to
be on her own. And I applaud her cousin for
giving Kitty the tough love like this.
And what actually happens in the story?
Kitty rises to the challenge despite doubting herself, and
without realizing it, she proves she is capable of doing anything
she sets her minds to because she meets the deadline and does
the extra work even when that task seemed impossible.
OK, so Kitty does do it. She proves she can grow off
screen. But then why?
What? But what do the writers do with
this plot line? Cut to Juan confessing her
pregnancy and telling Kitty she was right about everything and
apologizing to Kitty. So the writers fucking sabotage
themselves just like the character.
And it's like, we had we had Kitty prove she could grow and
then you were just like, Nah, because they're allergic to it.
I don't get it. They're allergic to it.
Why did you write this? That's fair, This.
Is me off OK? Yeah, maybe bad.
I was like, you proved she could do it, and then like, you fumble
that hard and there's like mad at that.
Kitty doesn't grow. Come on, guys.
Like she proved she can do it. But if we ignore that part of
it, I love that Juan actually tells her like up, straight up,
that like, you manipulated me into this.
Like, this is what you're doing. You aren't matchmaking, you are
manipulating me to spend more time so you could hang out with
your boyfriend. And then she also says that I
think you're still too focused on, which she totally is.
And like the first day of school, Jiwan also warns her
that she wouldn't be getting special treatment from her.
And I love that Jiwan sets boundaries with Kitty.
She's the only person to set boundaries and she does follow
them for the most part. Like she she does not give Kitty
special treatment. The only special treatment she
was given was that 5 minute warning before she brought
Professor Lee to the party. Wake up at the party.
Yeah, but then also, she was going to give her an extension
too. Yeah, that's fair.
So like, she was, she was crumbling.
But then like, again, as a she was like, you're you're fucking
me over again and not listening to me.
Like as a person and as an authority figure, you're just
trying to manipulate. Yeah, exactly.
But then, OK, But then how do they end it?
They end it with the same way they end everything.
They're like, Kitty was right to meddle.
Like, look how her meddling was a good thing.
It's like, come on. Like no stop doing.
This yeah they did that with literally everybody cuz even Q
literally you I like because like he pushed back on her as
well and was like you stop messing things up.
I do not want you meddling in my life.
And then he eventually is like, I made this so much worse
anyway. Like it literally could not be
worse. So go ahead.
What else can you do? But he does.
But by him saying that he's like, you make everything worse
no matter what. But I just don't think you can
make it worse this time. So like, go ahead and try.
Yeah, at least he got exacerbated, but yeah, no, like,
seriously, every single character she does this to will
push back at some point but then end up thanking her in the end.
And so like, she faces no consequence.
That's what I mean. That's why Kitty never grows,
because they write the other characters.
Big thanks, Kitty. I learned a lesson from you by
ignoring everything I was telling you and by bulldozing my
boundaries I was trying to set. And so therefore we're three
seasons that a Kitty has not grown at all as a character.
And that's incredibly frustrating.
She's a main. Character.
I will say with the Q thing in Kitty's defense, I do not think
it was Kitty's fault for accidentally telling Jen about
this photo. He didn't.
She didn't tell him about the. Photo like, no, not at all.
I agree. I agree.
Not at all. Yeah, that was cute.
That was. Cute.
That was not her. Yeah.
Right. But also it goes to show you,
you cannot tell her things because she will talk.
But I love how that comes back again.
And what's I forget his Jiwan's boyfriend, Alex.
Yes, thank you. Sorry.
When Alex is like Kitty, you told him to Professor Lee and
she's like, no, no, I did it. And he ends up just outing
himself to Professor Lee. That was, yeah.
Because again, again, she has a. She has a pattern.
That's what you expect. There's a pattern of behavior
that doesn't ever change It just, and it's just frustrating
because, like, it just makes the story boring because it's I
already know what's going to happen and that's not fun to
watch. Whereas like Season 1 and Season
2, at least it had some more unpredictability to it.
I feel like Season 3 did not. It was extremely predictable.
Everything was predictable. So I think that's fair.
My least favorite season, honestly, despite the fact that,
like, there were elements that I liked about it, like I really
did. It was just like, the story
overall felt lazy and boring, honestly, which is a shame.
Yeah, yeah. So I was kind of just kind of a
let down the way just everything was like, so we're doing the
same thing again. I was rewatching.
It and I was like the first two episodes I was like pretty into
it. And then I was like, is the
second-half of the season really just filler?
Because that's what it it felt like.
Yes, it did. It did right?
Exactly. Because like, again, they set up
the fact that Nino and Kitty are going to be the end game ship
and then they're like, well, we must create drama to keep them
apart and then get them together at the end and have parallel
scenes on the plane like in the end of season 1.
But we they can't be together the whole time because what is
the show about if it's not about drama?
So that's why I felt boring. I was like they're going to
break them up cause a misunderstanding, get them back
together. It's just so predictable.
I just boring. I feel like they could have done
other stuff like, I don't know, kitties struggling to like it's
cool and then just have her actually grow and like, you
know, could help her, like, you know what I mean?
Like there could have been so many other things they did.
There's it's because they're allergic.
To external drama too. It all has to be relationship
drama. That was it kind of is external
drama. It's just like we're caught like
Marius's external drama for Kitten or Q and Jen.
I mean, it is a it is a romance show.
So like, yeah, relationship is a big part is the genre we're in.
It's not. I'm not mad about that.
I just feel like you could have had other plot lines for the
drama other than like the really predictable.
What's going on with Madison, man?
Again, you could have had other drama between MiTo and Kitty,
like what if kitty's family didn't like him?
And then we had he had to like we had to navigate that or like
they were setting it up that like Kitty, like Nino's dad and
Kitty were going to be like a big thing.
And that was not in it. Like we could have kept going
with other we could have done other things that were
relationship drama based that were at these like super
predictable misunderstanding. It hedges on Kitty being jealous
and insecure and like, which again, like it is a she's a kid
who's not grown. Well, she's I'm going to call
her kid because like they have not proof of me.
She's an adult. So like yeah, she and but like
Kitty doesn't grow is like the problem.
So it's like you could repeat this again next season.
It would be as possible because they.
Don't, and they will. Kitty they they know, so they
won't let Kitty grow my. Only I don't.
Know what the writers problem is when it comes to Kitty?
It's really annoying. My only hope is that they don't
forget about the lesbians next season.
No, they they will, but. They will.
Hope yeah, they're going to watch this obviously and then
totally take our comments for what they are.
No, but like hopefully by like saying this and like maybe other
people can have their voice heard too and just like speak up
because they do check social. Media they do, but they're going
to learn more into the the gay stuff because of heated rivalry.
That's why, yeah, that's that makes money because straight
women are into that. And that's a bigger cohort of
people to watch it. And like, this is like the
pandering season because you have Kitty and Mino.
So you're going to get like the bigger heterosexual fan base in
there. And then you have like a big gay
plot line. So get like more women and gay
men and like, queer people will show up because there's, you
know, queer women will show up because there's queer people in
it regardless, even though we're getting screwed from a
representation standpoint. So like, it's the perfect
formula of like things that will make Netflix funny.
And again, it does not negate the fact that Kitty Kitty is a
queer woman. It does not.
It's just like this is if you're looking for sapphic
representation, this is not the show I'm on.
And if you're looking for something that's like cutesy and
like wholesome ish, like, yeah, this is the show.
And it's not like a bad show. No, it's it's it's good.
It's not a bad show at all. I just wish the would not follow
the same script every single season.
That's. And I honestly don't think that
that's. Too much to ask for.
Like, right? I'm just have a story.
Kitty's about to. Kitty's going to graduate high
school and be on her own soon. Like, can we have character
growth for this person? That's all I'm asking.
Yeah. Yeah, all right, that's my Kitty
rant. It was a good one.
What else do you got? Well, something that didn't
frustrate me is that I, And I am really surprised by this, coming
from the first season to here. I really respect him, you know,
and kind of love him. And I respect his, Yeah, his
growth, like, especially the way that he handled Yunus's desire
not to be famous anymore because he cared about the person rather
than money. And by the end of the season, we
even see, like, that's helping him.
And it's like he's getting more clients because he actually
cares. And that's sad that that's so
rare in this industry, but shows how valuable it can be.
And it sets him apart from people like his father.
So I just thought that that was a great contrast.
Like just because that's how things are done normally doesn't
mean that that's the way that they have to be done.
You can be a good person and protect the person that is
underneath and still be successful.
And I love that you that he is someone that you can count on to
be there for you and protect you because at the end of the day,
he is protecting. He takes his job so serious with
Eunice because he is right there to step in and be put his arm
over her, run her into Dave's restaurant, go with her even
when he wants to be with spend time with Kitty.
Like he takes his job seriously and that is major growth for
Mino since the very first season where he was just like the stuck
up character who didn't really care.
It it's just I, I love him now. And it's been great to just see
more of him and his character. Yeah, I agree.
I like Mino. Mino is this season in
particular. It's positive masculinity
because he's inhabiting the traits that men think they have
but they don't, where he actually is a protector and
protecting people to your point and is reliable, like he's a
reliable person. They, they can count on either
as a friend or just as like a business partner.
So yeah, I, I was happy to see that about Mino.
I, I am sorry. I feel bad for him with the dad
stuff cuz like he has daddy issues.
That's how you get season 1 Mino and the fact that he had like I
did like the plot line where him and his like work friend that
Kitty thought was trying to date him or whatever, his drama when
they were having the conversation on their rock
climbing or whatever. And he's like, he's upset for
Kitty not being like being there for him or whatever.
And she's like, you can't expect her to like fill the void in
your heart. Like, you know what I mean?
You can't, you have to learn to love yourself and like let go of
like trying to chase your dad's approval because you're never
going to get it basically. And like, it's really shitty to
have to like, come to terms with that, that like his dad is never
going to be who he wants him to be or like his dad is never
going to give him the love and respect that Nina wants and is
trying to like, prove he's worthy of.
So it's really shitty position for him to be in.
But I do like the way that plot line fleshed out where like him
and Kitty get into the argument. She's like, I'm not perfect and
you can't expect me to be. That was so real.
Like that was the real estate conversation they ever had.
Because like, yeah, you can't put all these, you cannot put
all these expectations, unrealistic expectations on your
partner. And then when they don't meet
them, get mad at them. It's like she's a human who
makes mistake. You've no.
Kitty. Yeah.
You know Kitty. She's a walking mistake.
You're no. Kitty, she's a walking mistake
and like that's fine. Like that's being human.
And so I like that he kind of had to come to terms that and be
like, I'm projecting onto her. It's just not about her, it's
about me. And like he kind of did the self
reflection thing, which like, yes, show more men doing that
because that's a huge problem in the world right now.
So and, you know, he was happier for it at the end, you know,
after he like worked on himself. So I appreciate that about me,
you know, too. Like it showed again, a level of
maturity in a character who's like about to like go out in the
world and be an adult. That made sense.
That's what I mean. I think the writers did a great
job with most of the characters this season in terms of having
them grow and like grow into adults who are mature because
we're transitioning into like they're graduating high school.
It's just like they left Kitty behind and the lesbians got
shafted. But like everybody else, like
grew into an adult, you know? Which I enjoyed about the season
and particularly Mino. Mino was a good one too.
He wasn't just like Kitty's love interest.
He had his own stuff going on. And I'm glad they did that
because I was afraid once their relationship started, it was
just going to be Mino obsessed. It just his plot line was Kitty,
but it wasn't. And I was pleasantly surprised
about that. I honestly.
Yeah, that is true. Like he did, he did get, he got
a lot this season and I'm not mad at it.
They did a great. Job no, we're not mad at.
It and we even see his maturity and Kitty's lack of maturity,
kind of like when they have their conversations together
where Mino has to literally pull Kitty's thoughts out from her
like and her feelings like he has to be like, stop leading me
on. Like what is what are you
feeling like? Were you asking to go on the
world tour? Like what do you actually mean?
Stop backtracking, stop mess like playing around with these
things. Just tell me what is going on in
your head. And he had to do that multiple
times. It was like every single
actually, I think most episodes ended with a conversation
between the two of them where Nina was trying to get her to
tell him how she feels. And I don't think she ever would
have admitted her feelings without Mino pulling them out of
her. And like, that just shows the
imbalance of maturity there because like, he was able to
have these conversations. It took more work for her to be
able to talk about it, but he initiated it.
All the time, yeah, which is huge, yeah, but it makes sense.
Like, and this is her first actual, that first religion she
used a day. But they were children.
It was long distance. That's a very different
relationship than I see you everyday.
I see you interacting with other people.
I have to verbalize my feelings, my adult feelings for you.
And like, Kitty is not an adult the way they've written her.
So it makes sense that she has no idea how to express herself
like that. And so she's learning and she's
lucky that Nino is patient and willing to like pull the
feelings out of her. Does he very easily be like,
this is annoying, I'm done. But he's not that person because
he's a he's a nurturing, caring person to your, you know, point
that you made earlier. So yeah, that me know that was a
they did a good job with me know this season they really except
writing a consensus on how to say his name with that.
That brings us full circle for this episode.
It sure does. Any thoughts and feelings about
Season 4? Because we're going to get a
Season 4, let's be honest. Yeah, if we don't I'm I'll be
super surprised. I would be super surprised.
Well, I don't want the lesbians to be on the back burner, but
let's be real, they probably will be.
They will be. I'd like to see more Madison.
I would like to see more with the family like the actual like
the actual family. I love the found family, like
don't get me wrong, but like they they emphasized the family
part of it so much especially in the beginning that it fell flat.
Kind of like I love that we got G1 as the teacher in this, but
that was also really sidelined this season.
It was. I was surprised about that.
I thought there's going to be more of that.
Yeah, and like, they kind of threw the grandmother in every
once in a while just to cause more vomit.
And it shows that she had no drama growth either because you
would think that after 0 not seeing her sister for what 50
years or however long like she would be more like oh I want to
keep my family close. I'm more open minded.
Like no she it just shows that some people never change.
And you know what? Actually, Kitty is resembling
her the most. Oh my God, you know.
What that actually makes sense why Kitty's not changing.
So I just talked myself into epiphany here.
So actually that makes sense because they're they do they set
up Kitty to be like the grandmother.
She's the grandmother. Oh, you're right.
So maybe she's destined to not change.
I'm so sorry for everybody in the life.
Involved in Sorry Mino. Good luck with that.
But yeah, I would like to see more with the family and see how
that grows. I would like Kitty to get some
growth. I don't.
I think we'll have the same formula again cuz that's the
that's XO Kitty. Formula.
And I would like to see Mino and Day like team up and take over
the music world. Get some glimpses of Nino and
Kitty in America acting with meeting the dad I'm hoping we
Yeah I would like to get. Some of that.
Meeting the family or just. Hanging out.
Some more cameos cuz like they're at the end game ship, so
let them interact, let us see it.
I don't want it off screen. So I would like some of that.
I assume there, this is going to be the graduation season.
So I'm hoping we have some kind of either glimpse into the
future or like they have plans. I might.
My assumption is that like, Mino is going to end up going to New
York to like do music or whatever.
And that's what this is going to end up being.
She's going to go to NYU, he's going to end up in New York with
day, and then Yuri will conveniently end up there for
fashion reasons. And I feel like they're just
going to relocate everybody to New York and that's my
prediction. And then we're going to have Exo
Kitty, New York, the college years.
That's that's a prediction. Anyway, but I'm really surprised
that they locked in Kitty's future in the.
Season like early decision like that's a.
That's actually a major step for her because she can't decide
anything. But I mean, in this, in this
way, like it decided for her. Well, because, yeah, I think
they're either that or. They're going to do the actual
parallel to Peter and LJ because they are heavily setting that up
where like, Katie's going to be in New York and then instead of,
and then instead of being in LA, well, maybe he'll be in LA.
Maybe, you know, he'll be in LA just like Peter.
And they're going to be a part, oh, they kind of navigate shit.
But then like, everything's going to be fine because love
and matchmaking and there's also going to be that.
So I think, you know, airplanes exist as they know.
Yeah, but also like when you're busy.
In the entertainment industry, you don't have time.
To be flying all the time? No, but I think it's one of
those two things. Either everybody conveniently
ends up in New York, or they're going to do the LJ Peter plot
line for Minnow and Kitty and it's going to work out and be
fine. Is basically what's going to
happen because it will force Kitty too mature enough to be in
a long distance or like it started with a long distance
relationship with Day and it's going to end with a long
distance relationship with Mino. There's that.
What's going to happen? Yeah.
I guess day is going to go into music with.
Mino and that'll be their adventure.
I think that Yuri is going to end up in the fashion world, so
there's a possibility she ends up in New York or Paris or some
shit day, and Eunice will go to the same college and then, like,
take over the restaurant or they're gonna have normal lives.
Probably. They're gonna have the most
normal life ever, Yeah. I think Kitty will sideline her
Korean family because they're getting sidelined.
Now we're done. We've served our purpose with
that family. I think that that's over.
Yeah. And I think it, I think it ends
with them graduating and then like some like Clemson to the
future is kind of my prediction is what's going to end up
happening with XO Kitty in one of those two ways.
Those are my predictions. I think they're all very
plausible. Yeah.
I mean, they're not. Subtle in the show.
Unless they throw in some other weird character to like, blow up
everything, which they might. What will the drama be?
Who knows. It will be relationship drama,
but anyway, so that's like, so Kitty, do you have any big gay
energy awards? I don't know that I I was
struggling with this and then I was like, you know what?
No, there's there's a couple things.
So I've. Got a couple actually, so we
have the amicable breakup between Provina and Juliana
That's true yeah, that a lot of gay energy.
I like when Julia was like, I'm proud of us the way we.
Yeah, I'm like, I was proud of you guys, too.
Yeah, I love that. That scene was great.
Jen standing up for Q. Yeah, that had a lot of big
game. That might not be the most
honestly. And then my last one is just Q.
Yeah, he has a lot of big energy in general.
He did. I also I have to give it out to
the Marc Marius. Kitty chaotic bisexual
conversation, yes, that had a lot of big game and it was very
sweet. Mutual big energy, do you?
What Taylor Swift song for you encapsulated XO Kitty season?
3. For this, I picked a place in
this world because Kitty's always trying to figure out.
Where she belongs. And there's a part like there,
she says I'm alone on my own a lot in the song.
And I was like, I know that Kitty's always like, oh, my
friends, my friends, my friends. But she always feels like she
has to do things herself and fix everyone.
So it's like she's alone in the fact that like she's has to do
it by herself. So yeah, that's a good.
One that's good one I'm going to give 22.
It's going to be my song because I'm feeling 22 because kitties
whole thing was like the bucket list.
It was just like I got to do you know, we got to see the sunrise.
We got to like live it up while we can.
We got to all be together and it was that's a very much like a
we're in a unique time in our lives where we like are adults,
but not really. And we kind of like have
responsibilities, but not really.
And so like, let's go clubbing, let's get food, let's talk about
our breakups, let's cry over boys, let's do whatever.
Like that's the energy of season 3 for me while we're like
transitioning into being adults with our like end game ships and
stuff. So this was kind of like a party
season in a little, in a little bit of a way because we had the
bucket list thing. Yeah.
Speaking of a lot of characters doing new things.
Speaking of that, that's how season 4 is going to end.
It's going to be at the sunset. Watching the sunset.
There you go with the tree. Yeah, with the tree in the.
Background in. The background.
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something we missed, something you loved, wanted to rant about,
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