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You've heard it a million times before.
Yeah, you're sick of it. Let's just get into this.
Let's do it. All right, so off screen, Big
Nung finds little Nung after the car accident and then
accompanies her unconscious form to the hospital.
How she got there before either of the parents, I don't.
Who knows. Who called the ambulance like?
Yeah, No, seriously. All right.
So I was trying to figure out the logistics of this.
That's my whole notes in this. It's trying to figure out the
logistics of the scene. So she's on the phone, obviously
she hears a crash. I guess I, I mean, the phone
goes silent. I don't know if it's an actual
crash or not, but like she's she knows something you.
Heard a scream. At minimum, she heard a little.
Long scream. Alarming.
If someone on their call like
it's OK, it's either a big nun or someone at the scene which it
was dark, it was, it was. The other driver.
You have to assume the other driver was conscious and did it
'cause like who else would be out randomly?
Yeah. So I don't know, it's either one
of them. But either way, how did she make
it here for when they were Wheeling her?
Back, that's my question, 'cause like presumably the well,
actually we don't know where Ping Pho is staying, 'cause if
she was at the grandmother's place, the grandmother we know
lives far, like kind of far. Away.
Yeah, further away. Yeah, but like, I don't know.
Who knows where Ping Pho was actually staying.
Maybe it was super close to the palace.
Because the grandmother takes the phone out of little Nung's
hand. I thought she was in the same
room so I swear. It's there.
Like, no, no, she wasn't. No, no, no.
She was at Pingfa's place. She wasn't at the grandmother's
place. Yeah.
All right. Unless new set, it's a new
season 2 set. I don't.
Know it passed Pingfa to be as close as possible to Big Nun.
But also that thwarts her plan of keeping them apart, so I
don't know. It just.
Makes her weird. And like which hospital I'm
assuming right, one close enough that like is assigned to like
you know how you're assigned schools in a school district,
Maybe there's like a hospital that's closest.
But like again, it also depends on like where she is in relation
to big nun. Right.
What is Big Nung operating off of is my question.
When she went to fat well, she's the little bug seeker.
She always finds her no matter where she is.
So like I wouldn't put it past her to like figure it out.
But anyway, the fact that she's there as they're rolling her
into the trauma Bay is weird just because like how?
What is she a superhuman? Did she teleport to the scene of
the? How did she get there before
the? Teleportation powers the aura
like that's that is the spin off.
Big Nung gets super powers and saves the world.
I'm I mean. With her big numbness.
Yeah, I'm, I'm here for that show, honestly.
But anyway, weird logistics aside, the they're in the
hospital. This is where the scene starts,
where Lil numbs on the Gurney getting wheeled into the the
trauma Bay where she's gonna go like probably straight to the OR
because look at her. So her big man is running
alongside as the medical team is like frantically Wheeling her to
the trauma Bay and she's worried sick because lung's out cold,
she's not moving, her head's bleeding.
This is an actual nightmare. Just wow.
There's there's so much going on.
This is just a clusterfuck. So eventually the team gets her
in like her being along into the the trauma Bay and the the doors
close and then one nurse, the nurses shout out to all the
nurses out there. Then any nurses listening, you
guys do way too much and you don't get paid enough because
this nurse, her job is to be like keep the grieving family
out of the trauma Bay, which if you've ever worked in a trauma
Bay, it could be super wild. So this is not a fun job that
this nurse is doing. So the nurse has to be like, OK,
grieving. I don't even know who you are.
You need to, you cannot come into the OR like you can't.
It's a sterile ish environment. You can't go in there.
And Big Nung is begging, like begging.
Please let me see her for just a few more seconds.
Like she's just begging. Like give me any scrap of time
with her before she's gone for 'cause she could lose little nun
literally forever. She could die in the trauma Bay
and like that's it. It's over.
So like she's so desperate not to have her worst fear come into
fruition that she's just begging with this underpaid and
underappreciated employee. Like, please let me into the
trauma Bay. And when she's doing this, she
sounds so beyond broken and just terrified as she's pleading with
this poor employee who's just trying to do her job.
Meanwhile, the poor veteran nurse, cause like you've seen,
you see the deadness in her eyes.
She's been here before. She's like I, I, I've been dead
into the world cause I've seen too many.
Horrible. What's your in an ER or an
emergency room or a trauma. Trauma is even worse.
You've seen some stuff, you're scarred forever.
So this woman is just like, it's another case.
You need to, I need to do my job like so she's she's like manages
to calm big down enough to get her to sit down, which is how I
know as a veteran nurse, because she'd just been in this
situation before. She gets big none to sit down.
And at that time she hands over the bag of possessions and she's
like, this is for you. And then Big None loses it once
she gets the phone and she just starts sobbing.
And that's when the nurse is like, I'm gonna slip away back
into the OR and do my actual job.
Goodbye and so. The the the thing that's sad
about this though, is that the nurse, when she hands the bag to
her, says this is her belonging. Now, usually it's this is their
belongings, plural, but this is all she had on her.
And in life, this phone symbolizes Big Nung, because Big
Nung is all she has. Really.
And Caitlin, why are you gonna say that now?
It's even sadder. Yeah, I OK.
I don't like this. It's hold on.
Oh, it gets. Worse.
Yes. Oh gosh, it.
Thank you. Laura.
And this was the last physical thing that connected them
together. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, Big Nung's gift is hanging off the phone.
That's the phone key chain or whatever.
And here's the other sad part. That's a bloodied phone so Ally
can watch is like when she's holding it, it's in a bag cuz
like it might be crime scene evidence, who knows.
There's blood all over the phone too.
It's a little. I'm surprised they gave it to
her right now. The nurse is like, this cannot
go into the X-ray machine or the Mris that she's gonna cause head
injury. They're gonna send her in an
MRI. She cannot have metal on her.
So like they're like, can you hold this?
Because if it gets lost back there, you may never say it
again. Trauma bays are wild.
But I'm yeah, I'm surprised they had it bagged already.
Like who bagged this? I'm just shocked.
Cause usually like it, this stuff doesn't happen until
they're like usually it's such a rush that this doesn't happen
until they're like in the trauma Bay And one of the nurses is
like taking things off of the patient while they're like
usually cutting the clothes so they can examine them.
This. They have to do so many things
in like seconds in trauma bays. I've worked in trauma hospitals
before, and it's like, trauma bays are wild.
Everything is super fast, Everybody has a job.
It's very coordinated. So like, that nurse is like, I
need to get back in there to do my duty from what's going on in
the trauma Bay. Anyway, yeah, I'm surprised they
did this. I assume this happened in the
ambulance. Maybe they just were
preemptively getting her stuff together because her condition
was so bad. But anyway, like, poor Big Nong.
And the sad, even sadder phone thanks to Caitlin is like, just
like losing it. OK, She's just sobbing.
And I imagine, not that this is a far fetched imagination, Big
Nong mentally probably goes to a very, very dark place right now
when she's clutching this phone and just like sobbing.
And I assume she's blaming herself for all of this because
this is Big Nong like her greatest fear, right?
And like, we've seen her grappling with her fear of like,
repeating, you know, past mistakes and harming people.
Like the way she, like the ghost of song is still like, haunting
her despite her making progress with like, forgiving herself for
all of that. I imagine she kind of goes back
to that deep, dark place where she's like, this is my fault.
Somebody else is going to die because of me.
Like, I assume that's what's like kind of consuming her in
this moment. And it's like, worse that it's
like little Nung and she was conscious that that might happen
and like tried to do everything she could to stop it from
happening. And it like, it's happening
anyway. And so like, that loss of
control that she's feeling as somebody who's a control freak
like her, like it's like she lost everything, like everything
in this moment. And it's just like all she has
is the fucking phone. You know she has to be thinking
about how this was the last thing little Nung touched and it
was to call. Her to call her.
Yeah. And like what you just said,
this was the first time in a while that she let herself be
selfish by telling little known that she loves her on the radio.
And now this is what she was trying to keep herself from
doing. And then the second, basically
that she did it. It's song, not really what?
No, What's up? Yeah.
So I think that's why she's like, her trauma is being super
triggered right now because, yeah, that was a moment of
weakness where she let herself feel what she wanted to feel and
express it and like, look what happened.
And like, this is what she was, like you said, so afraid of
doing the whole time. And like, boom, the worst thing
possible happened just when she was like, being selfish, you
know? If we had another season she
would This would definitely would have made her regress a
little bit. Yeah, oh, for sure, for sure.
But like shit happens real fast from here on out.
But like, yeah, you know, she's she's not in the same place she
was when this first happened with Song.
She's not the same person. She has some more coping skills.
But like, this is her her at her lowest that we've seen her
probably ever in the show. Like these were this was the
highest of possible stakes. And that's like, boom.
Yeah. OK.
And so back to your point of like the belonging.
Oh, unless you had more to say. No, I'm good.
OK, the belonging versus belongings, plural.
So like OK, in the bag. Like to your point, it's just
it's just the phone. That's all she had on her.
So here's the other wild part of this.
So when little Nung heard the heard the radio and like ran to
go to big Nung, she literally fled saying I'm not going to
America. Fuck my family.
She literally left with just her phone like no ID card, like
nothing like so like that's how little little Nung was actually
thinking when she fled. Like there were no thoughts in
that girl's head except big Nung.
That was it. So like she was not prepared for
what she was about to do anyway. Like even if she didn't get in
the car accident, like what was this plan?
The plan was just get to big Nung.
There was no thought beyond that.
Like there was no like maybe I should pick pack some clothes
and never come back here. You know what I mean?
There was no like there was just get out now.
There was like, she's in a, she's in like the haunted house
with the killer. She's like, get out, just get
out. Take nothing, leave it, let it
all burn, Like just get out. She had no plan.
That's where her headspace was when she did that.
Everything could be replaced except Big Nug.
Just big Nug. All I thought was this big Nug,
what do you want for dinner? Big Nug?
What do you she gets in the car and they're like, where do you
want to go? She's like big Nug and like
there's no, it's like is if I specify what this is like, is
that a place? I don't know, Is that a bar?
I don't know, she's everything. It's like, well, this is not
helpful. Who are you?
Get out of my taxi. Anyway, it was sort of been a
mess if she tried to actually go through with this.
So after this, the the theme song starts playing and
thankfully whoever is in charge of editing chose not to play
Beat My Boo by Yoko 'cause that's way too upbeat and they
went back to the more somber like theme song.
We had the like the first season, but it was like, it's
like an instrumental version. So like thank you for not
picking the Super upbeat song like immediately after like the
worst thing ever. So like, thank.
You could you imagine though? No, I'd be like, why are we
here? Like.
Maybe like the GMMTV type theme songs playing after someone?
Dies. I guess those shows are screwed
'cause their theme songs are very upbeat anyway.
So thank you Blake for not doing that.
So after the after the the very last opening credits, we cut
back to big nun who's still still upset in the waiting room,
like the waiting room next to the trauma Bay, which is just
like 5 chairs. And I assume sometime has passed
because she seems a lot more put together.
She's not like full chest sobbing.
She's kind of just like sniveling a bit holding the
phone. So she seems more put together,
I guess. And while she's doing this, her
night gets even worse because Long Long's family starts
arriving and the first people on the scene are Pingfa and Chet,
who come together. We just.
I have a theory. Later we'll get into OK, all
right, it's it's not a good one, but it's.
Yeah, I figured where my brain just went wasn't good either,
but I'll all right anyway. So they kind of go up to the
door, which I don't know what they thought was going to
happen. There's like, they probably were
like, she's in the OR and there's like nowhere for you to
go. She's in the OR anyway.
There's the operating room, if you know what that means.
So interestingly, but not surprisingly, the first person
who speaks is Pingfa. And the first thing she says is
how is my daughter? Because of course she does.
She actually cares about her daughter.
Meanwhile, Chet does not just wait till the first thing out of
his mouth. Complete opposite.
Oh my God, no. Anyway, I'm so glad that she is
the first one to speak and that this is what she's asking,
because in this moment, that's all that matters.
Chet Chet you bitch, he's a dirty bitch.
And then like I like that she asks Big Nog so she doesn't come
in and attack Big Nog. She's like, how is my daughter
like cuz you're right, that is what matters.
And so Ping FA again thinks about her daughter first, not
her own bullshit, Always demonstrating that that's
apparent. That's apparent.
Exactly. That's apparent in a scary
situation. Meanwhile, Chet doesn't say
anything at first, but he is also looking to Big Nung for the
answer. So like demonstrating that he is
concerned about Little Nung on some level.
Poor Big Nung is so like distraught.
She can't even say the words of like what happened like she
can't even say it 'cause I feel like to to say it makes it more
real than it is. And she just keeps crying like
she doesn't say anything. Which makes Ping pho more upset
because Oh my God big noms crying.
When the fuck did she cry like that must be really bad if big
noms cry. The woman that never has
emotions is like she hasn't sobbing, the queen is crying in
the waiting room like that's unnerving #1 and then like is
not answering this question. So like Ping Pong gets more
upset because she's like Oh my God unless you really bad if
you're crying and not answering me.
Holy shit. So she gets more upset which
probably makes Chet upset. Instead of like following this
up with another question about Big Nong, he immediately just
starts attacking her and blames her for essentially breaking the
barter that they created to send Lunung abroad safely without
interfering. And he's like, you clearly
interfered like this is your fucking fault Nung.
And like, again, not dealing with his own emotions, he's
throwing his emotions onto Big Nung who's clearly not OK 'cause
he's the worst. There's no doubt about that.
That's a cheat. That's the theme of the whole
show. Chet's the worst.
That's why we had to have an
episode titled that. In case you weren't aware.
But Chet says it's because of you.
And I don't think he's just talking about this accident
either. And we talked about this, I
believe in the last episode. He is blaming Big Numb for his
perfect quote life being messed up but she is the reason little
Nung doesn't want to be in his Life OK.
She is the reason her daughter, her daughter his daughter is a
quote gender deviant 1. Of my favorite ones.
So random, sorry. She is the reason Little Nung is
in the hospital. She is the reason he doesn't
have a wife. None of which is true, Chet.
You're the common denominator for all of those statements.
Is chatting you? Because of you.
Yeah, I literally think that's it.
But yeah, so of course that's where Chet comes from.
And then Chet mentions he's like the radio stations.
He's like, why did you have to say all that nonsense on the
radio? Did you want everyone in the
world to know you guys were dating?
My question is how did Trent know about the radio station?
Like does he secretly listen to the How did he know this?
OK, so again, this will go in my theory later, but right now
focusing on this question, there is no way he would have been
listening. No way.
Like why? Because why?
First of all, for him to listen on his own, he would have to had
actually care about other people to want to listen to it, Yeah.
He can. Barely figure out his own
problems he he doesn't want to hear about other people's
problems. Adds to the other reason he
could be listening to is even if he knew that this was little
Nung's favorite station, he would have had that.
He would have had to actually listen to her when she talked
about it and then actually care enough to check out what his
daughter. Likes and also actually listen
to the people on the radio. Yeah, that's listening.
Not a skill he has. Not at all.
NO0. That's the other theme in this
show. Yeah, doesn't make any.
These are the character traits of Chet.
He's the worst and doesn't know how to listen.
That's it, yeah. So how he knew about the radio
show, I don't know, unless like Ping Fu found it out 'cause like
the grandmother's not listening to this like.
We'll get there. OK, it doesn't make for him to
say this makes is very weird. So also Chet.
Anyway, so assuming he found out about the radio show somehow,
maybe from ping pho who knows, Google alert, who the fuck
knows. I don't know, whatever divine
intervention, if he knew about the radio show Trek, did you not
hear like what Big Nung said on the radio show?
Like she was literally talking about their happy memories that
her and Little Nung had. And Big Nung admitted in the
radio show that it was Little Nung that was aggressively
pursuing her. Like she told the story of how
your daughter was aggressively pursuing her.
So you can't blame Big Nung for this.
It's your daughter did all this, it's our fault.
OK, now here's when my theory came to be after think of all of
these things. All right, so Big Nung is on the
phone when the accident happens. She's like, well shit, either
she calls the police or the the dude in the car does.
I'm assuming as a dude that that was that was wrong of me.
The person in the car calls, who knows.
Anyway, Big Nung does call Pingfa because she is obviously
the only one who deserves to know and when she tells her that
Little Nung was in an accident. Pingfa asks.
Why they were even talking when in the 1st place when Big Nung
promised that she wouldn't call her OK, which is a fair
question. But Big Nung explains that she
did keep her promise, but she called into this radio station
and she gives this like basic overview of what happened and
definitely leaves out like the parts, like the actual parts of
her saying like it was little Nung doing it because she's
blaming herself right now for everything happening.
So she's just giving making it sound like her fault too anyway.
And then she tells her that Little Nung chose to call her,
and that's when it happened. Now Chet only found out the only
reason he's here right now 'cause Ping Pho wouldn't have
called him. He only finds out because he was
currently with Ping Pho trying to control how Little Nung goes
abroad and what happens there. Yeah, that's fair.
I don't know that Big Nung would volunteer the information about
the radio station rather than be like she called me.
You gave her a phone back. Like, 'cause the grandmother
took the phone away, Ping Pho must've given her the phone
back. Be like she called me.
I feel like she wouldn't dive into the radio station unless
she needed. To but like I needed that from
my theories. Yeah, but like, yeah, anyway,
'cause like, I think big nung, I don't know, I don't know.
This was weird. I don't know why Chet knows
about the radio station. Truly your your theory's
plausible. I hate him anyway.
OK, but the answer to this, like did the parents, if they were
listening, actually listen to what the hell was was going on
on the radio? Like big Nun was pouring her
heart out about how they met, how little Nung pursued her and
how they were happy basically. And the answer is no, nobody
heard any of that, especially in a chat.
All he heard was great. Now the entire world knows my
daughter as a sexual deviant like you.
The shame is out there now Big Nung, this is all your fault.
All of Thailand knows I don't like Chad.
Big Nung actually listens to him when he's talking to her,
including when he blamed the entire car accident on her and
he just says it again like this accident is your fault.
Which like we said, I'm sure Big Nung internalizes that because
on some level it's true. Like like we mentioned her
selfish actions. And by selfish I mean like her
giving it to what she wants above everything else led to
this outcome. And this is the song scenario
playing all over again. Because what was that scenario
that was Big Nong being selfish by choosing to escape the palace
for her own well-being and the, you know, leaving her sisters
and her grandmother behind. And that event and choice that
she made set off a chain of events that ultimately led to
Song's demise, like an outcome Big Nung admitted she knew was
possible. Because remember, she said I
knew Song couldn't handle the pressure that the grandmother
was putting me under. Like, so she knew Song couldn't
handle the role she was going to have to fulfill.
But like, we've gone over how that a million times.
I'm just kind of setting this up and now and here we are today
and despite Big Nuns character, character growth that we've seen
throughout the whole show and all the lessons she learned,
like history in her mind is like kind of repeating itself again.
Because what happened here, Big Nun gave it to her selfish
desire to contact Little Nun by the limited means available to
her. She didn't break the promise,
but she kind of did because she did interfere by doing this.
And it ultimately did reach Little Nung like she hoped it
would. And that set off this chain of
events that led to this moment right now in the hospital where
the parents are blaming her for this whole thing.
But the story of Big Nung and Little Nung is not so simple,
right? Just a song story was not
simple. Little Nung also made choices
that led to this outcome. Little Nung chose to impulsively
flee with a phone and nothing else.
She didn't have money, she just jumped out in the street too
like to get there faster. And just like in Song story,
there's the meddling family that also played a part in all of it.
So it's not as simple as like one person making one choice.
There are many actors involved in this play and we got the
tragic outcome in with both main lead Song and Lil Nung right.
And all Big Nung says is in response to Chet blaming her
solely for everything is Lilong and I love each other.
Because that's what this all really boils down to.
Like Lilong and Big Bang are both being selfish with their
love for each other because, like, love is selfish in a way,
you know? It's like, you know, And that
was all they were really doing. And but Chad refuses to listen
because he doesn't know how. And he goes through his greatest
hits of homophobia and just blaming her.
That's all he's got. Yeah, and like, this is where I
need Chet to take a look around at where he is right now,
because this is not the issue right now.
This is not what should be the focus.
Like this is when I got really angry while writing notes.
Get your head out of your ass and be a damn father.
But he can't do that. Yes, because he is not
emotionally intelligent at all and I'll point that out multiple
times in this episode in particular because he's scared
right now. Like, as the father who loves
his daughter, his daughter might die.
So he's freaking the fuck out, OK?
And he's terrified, just like all the everybody in the scene
is terrified, but everybody is dealing with their sorrow and
their fear differently. Big noms beating herself up
about it. Ping Pho is probably also
beating herself up about it because Ping Pho is never
allowed to express her emotions. So she's just silently suffering
in the corner like the women do. And then Chet, what's the man
doing? He's making it everybody else's
problem. And so he's like turning the
fear into anger and he's attacking whoever he can.
He can't attack Ping Pho because Ping was with him and then or
whatever. So he's attacking big No, he's
like you're the common denominator.
This is your fucking fault. If you didn't talk to her, she'd
be in the room, she'd be going to America.
This is your fucking fault. If you didn't do anything, we
wouldn't be here. So like he's just, he's scared
and he's like making it anger instead of processing his fear,
he's just attacking big nose. So in his mind, he's being a
good father by attacking the deviant that caused this, but
he's not living. But the problem is, Chad, we are
here because you've never listened to this woman ever.
And we wouldn't be here if you guys are.
Just fucking listen to the little Nung Whisperer that you
keep employing as the little Nung Whisperer because she knows
the magical secret to understanding your daughter,
which is fucking listening to her.
Amazing. All right, so then he keeps
berating her until bring big gun breaks this up and says what
we've been saying the whole fucking show, which is stop
acting like you're a father who loves his daughter.
And finally he shuts the fuck up because this is about him.
So now he's listening. He's like me, I'll listen so she
can she continues. He's she's like you've known her
as long as I have. And this was a very brilliant
thing for her to point out because he said he's like, I
don't know. It's just like once I realized
she was my daughter, it's like a light switch went off and
suddenly my I love her. My love is as vast as the ocean.
Like you know how he just immediately is like, she's mine.
I love her. That was it.
That's all it took mine love like it was that simple for him.
And she's like, bitch, we've known her the same amount of
time. So you can't be like, I'm but he
what he's seeing in the scene is like, I'm her fault.
Like I've been her father this whole time.
And she's like, you've been here for three weeks, Chet, like, and
for you to sit there and say, I love her and it's real despite
the limited time we've had together would be him also
having to confront the fact that Big Nun's love for little Nung
is just as real because she's known her for the same amount of
time. So he can't be like, this is
bullshit. It's a fling.
It's whatever. We've known her the same amount
of time. You're so in love you, you love
her so much. Well, so do I.
You have to acknowledge that my feelings are also real.
So good. Technicality.
Big Nung has known her for longer.
In the grand scheme of things it'll be around the same time,
but technically Big Nung has. Slightly longer, but like it's
it's the same time frame. Yes, yeah.
Then that weakens Chet's argument even more because she's
known her slightly longer, but like again, she's unraveling his
argument. That doesn't make any sense.
Then Big Nung launches into my absolute favorite Big Nung
monologue in which she reads the whole family to filth.
I love it. First she calls out Chet for
again, you barely know her. We've known her the same amount
of time and you don't even know her favorite color.
Like, like, what do you know about her?
And yet like, again, she's like, and I'm the big, the little Nung
whisperer. I know her better than you do.
And we've known her the same amount of time.
And then she addresses everybody else by stating the selfish role
they played in forcing Little Nung to give up her own
happiness and her life in Thailand to go to America
because it made her family comfortable by getting her away
from Big Nung, the source of the happiness.
Just and ignoring all the signs where little Nung was unhappy.
This is exile, right? She was being exiled.
And she's like, they're like, I didn't have a warning sign.
She's like, I gave so many signs.
Ping Pho watched her daughter like zombie mode at the kitchen
table. She remember she tried to feed
her. She's so upset because they took
Big Nung away from her. And then the grandmother will
get to her later. But like, remember she's crying
on the phone with big Nung. She takes the phone away and
she's like haha I won and Lilong's still crying in the
corner. Nobody cares.
Chet doesn't pay attention and so he wouldn't see her sad
because he doesn't stick around long enough to ever see the girl
have an emotion other than indifference towards him or
anger when she's like you're not even my dad, get the fuck out of
here like. It's ridiculous.
It is ridiculous. So I love the big guns like you
guys just like ignored the fact that you were hurting her
because it made you comfortable because I have a sexual deviant
or like whatever the fuck. And unsurprisingly, Chad refuses
to hear any of this because he doesn't know how to listen.
But big gun reminds him that like, and he's like, listen,
you're just some outsider. We're her family.
And she's like, listen, I may be some outsider, but like, I'm the
person she loves the most. There is no argument there from
us, right? And for whatever reason, this
also shuts shut up. This shuts him up.
She's like, yeah, you want a profound, say you love your
daughter this and that. Who does she love the most?
This guy right here. This one me and you all know
that, which is why you've been trying to keep us apart because
and that's the Groot of it. They know that little Nung loves
her and will listen to her. And so that's why they've been
trying to remove her from the equation so that the family
selfishly can replace Big Nung in Little Nung's life.
Like that's the scenario they were really all trying to set
up. They're like, we see her getting
away, which is part of growing up and becoming an adult.
You do get somewhat estranged from your family because you're
like growing, you go with like as a woman, you'd go to a
different family when you bury into them or like whatever.
And so like they're like, oh God, we're losing her.
My daughter who's 20 years old and I never got to parent.
And so they're trying to get rid of the person she loves the most
so they can make room for themselves and be like, now she
has to love me because there's nobody to love, which is so.
Controlling and psychotic. Maybe you were there since the
beginning, didn't run away like a little coward.
But I mean, like that's kind of the grandmother's position in
all of this. But yes, you are correct.
All right, then Big Nung speaks the saddest truth of all.
They can only be spoken by somebody who actually pays
attention to Lil Nung and actually knows her.
And she says, I don't know whether or not Lil Nung has ever
felt true happiness in her life. And then she's like, think about
it. You both abandoned her, both of
them. I hate that she says you're her
mother left her. It's like the father also left
her. You should also point that
finger at Trent. We're not letting Trent.
You both abandoned. Let's let's go with the father
left her because the father left first.
Father left first and then mother was forced away so they
bought like at birth she had no parents which I find that real
rich because in the other episode where the grandmother is
like wow big nong you're such a deviant because you don't have
parents. I'm like, neither did your
granddaughter. Because of you.
So like what was that was
projection anyway? This episode's titled Because of
You. Because of you.
Can we get Kylie Clarkson to watch it and go on her show?
Anyway, all right, And then again, once Chet is directly
addressed, that's when he pays attention.
So good. I hate that you just keep doing
this 'cause that's the only way he'll pay attention.
And then she says to chat she's like she has a father but she
doesn't feel like she has a father because you don't
actually know her or do anything fatherly towards her except try
to control her. And big, big man keeps going and
tells them basically like that Your daughter, I don't know if
you've noticed, wears a mask of happiness around the family all
the time. And what she's really saying is
she's like, you created an environment essentially where
your daughter has to hide who she is around you.
And by doing so, like sacrifices any bit of happiness she does
feel in order to conform into what the family, whatever box
they're trying to put her in. Because it makes the family feel
better if they see her behaving the way they want her to behave
and doing the things they want her to do in front of them.
But then, when she escapes, little nun can like finally
breathe and like be who she wants to be.
The thing is this mask of happiness, so like pretending
like it's an actual mask is so loose that it's barely there
till so that it's barely there even like you, it's so clear to
see when she's around them. Yeah, and I think that's that's
Big Nung's impact. I think the mask was a lot more
secure. And then Big Nung started to
crack the mask. And because Little Nung finally
found happiness and is like, oh, this is the thing I was missing.
Once you have that, it's hard to go back to the oppressive
environment. Like once you taste the freedom,
it's like you can never untaste it.
And then you're like, it gets harder to live under oppression,
which is basically what Little Nung's whole life has been.
So like, we see her acting out quote in the eyes of the family
because like, she's tired of being oppressed by them.
And yeah, and that's Big Nung's impact because without Big's
Nung, she was just going along with all that shit and hiding in
her room and like, you know, like what we saw in season 1.
And you see, we we would see things like she when she would
leave the gate of her house, she'd be like, we see her
finally breathe and like, take the mask off and be like, oh, I
feel better now. I don't have to keep posturing
or whatever the fuck. Performing in the house.
That's exhausting. And like around Big Nun, it got
to the point where she'd never had to perform.
And so it's like it. Used to be very, very tight that
it was suffocating. Yeah.
And it slowly got loosened over time.
Yeah, exactly. Hence like the last, the last
family gathering where they're like you're going to America.
She's like like, fuck, I'm going like immediately.
She's like. There's no nice, no niceties.
There was no mask in that scene, none whatsoever.
She's like, no, I'm not doing it.
I'll never do it. And then she's like, oh, you're
trying to do it, The Separatist. I'm really not doing it now.
Don't sit there and lie to me and say it's for my benefit
anyway. Yeah, yeah.
So anyway, bottom line, Big Nom points out like you made your
daughter sacrifice her own happiness to make you feel
better. And just so you, you made her
lie. Like you made her a liar.
She had to lie. And just like pretend everything
was fine when it really wasn't. And the thing about it too is
that this whole thing, everything we just talked about,
the masking performing, the pretending when Big Nung's
delivering these lines, like you can tell this part of Little
Nung's life feels personal to Big Nung because she says
basically like Little Nung has never had the freedom to be who
she was. And like, that was literally Big
Nung's life. And the way she like again,
delivers the line, it's just like it's coming from a place of
like protectiveness, because when you love somebody, you hate
to see them unhappy. And then Big Nung really hates
that. And but the other thing is like
it's coming from a place of empathy from Big Nung because
this is her childhood trauma too, where she was forced to
perform, you know, in front of the grand man.
And, and she grew up also trapped like in a literal
palace, just like Luma was trapped in her room under, under
the strict grandmother. And now here we are again.
We're like little Nung's family is trying to cage her once again
and trap her into a situation she doesn't want to be in with
the whole go abroad thing. And big Nung is trying her
damnedest to get them to finally see that this entire see this
situation from little Nung's point of view.
Like the woman you, you never let her talk.
You never actually let her express how she feels and like
perhaps this is shocking to people who like really never.
They don't know her. And that's the thing.
And I think that's really what Big Nung is trying to like show
he's like, you really don't know her.
You really don't. And you never took the time to
actually get to know her despite Big Nung over and over again
being like, just talk to her. She just wants acceptance.
She just wants you to listen to her.
We've ignored all of those warning signs and then the thing
happens and everybody's like, I don't understand what happened
must be Big Nung's fault. She.
Literally gave them the answer from day one.
That's what's so frustrating. She's literally a broken record
about this and nobody fucking listens to her, but then they
want to go and blame her when things go wrong, which is like,
you know what it is? I think I have this somewhere in
my else in my notes, but I'm going to say it now.
This is childlike behavior coming from Ping, Pho and Chet.
Now let's think about these two for a second.
I'll ignore this when I get later in my notes.
They're basically children, OK, like let's just talk about all
the adults for a second. Big NUM pingfa Chet.
They're basically mentally children when it comes to like
dealing with emotions and dealing with responsibility.
OK, they're children. Whereas like children aren't,
aren't at the point where they're emotionally intelligent
yet because they, it's a skill that you learn over time, right
as you socialize as a person. OK.
And then taking a responsibility for your own actions, again, is
not something little children innately know how to do.
It's something that's taught kind of over time.
And if you think about the whole pregnancy thing and whether Chet
was it or not, he became a father, admitted the pregnancy
stick turned positive or whatever.
So he's been a father this whole time.
He just hasn't been acting as one until like a week ago or
whatever. This this series started.
So their childhoods ended the minute the pregnancy happened.
OK, back when they were 16, the only person that was actually
forced to take responsibility, and I say forced was Pingfa
because as the woman, there is no getting out of it.
And you're, you're stuck with the evidence of the crime,
right? Whereas Chet had the option to
own his own, his be responsible then and there or run away from
responsibility. And what did he choose?
He ran away from it. So this is a human being who
doesn't naturally take responsibility.
And how did Chet's life turn out?
Turned out great. It's perfect.
He's going to be Prime Minister. Like, look at the what were the
consequences of his action of not taking responsibility?
His life turned out great. So why would he take
responsibility when, like, things have worked out just
great with him actually not taking responsibility?
So his like, instinct is not to actually own up to his own
bullshit. It's like, no, it never
happened. And I can just keep going about
my life. So here we are in this
conversation with big bangs. Like, you need to both
acknowledge the role that you played in this and take
responsibility for it like an adult.
And they are both like refusing to do it 'cause mentally they're
children and they never like actually learn this.
If Big Nung, if this was the same Big Nung before she met
Little Nung and she was in the situation, she'd do the same
thing because her response is flight.
She runs away. She's like, no, no semantics.
And she'd run away because that's what we've seen her do
the whole season. But because she had Little Nung,
a wildly empathetic, a very emotionally intelligent human
being that she got to know and learned from, Big Nung knows
empathy now and knows how to take responsibility and like
emotional process, hard emotions.
And like, we see her being the adult in this conversation.
And the children who don't know how to, like, regulate their
emotions or like own up to their bullshit are just like blaming
her. They're like, no, no, it's you,
it's you, it's you, it's you. It's not me, it's not me.
Why would I take responsibility for this?
And that drives me crazy about this conversation.
I feel like Chet's theme song here is no Body, No crime.
No, because the the person doing the murdering and nobody, no
crime had a good reason to do it.
He doesn't have. A good reason I didn't, I don't
actually know the full lyrics. I just think like nobody, like
if it's because again, Pingfa is left with the evidence.
So like he doesn't have the evidence.
There's no he didn't do anything.
This is denial. It's just why would he when his
life in his life, it was reinforced that if he doesn't
take responsibility, things work out for him.
So like, why would he like, and that's like a bigger societal
problem with like men not taking responsibility for shit and then
getting rewarded for it. But anyway, OK, so the big gun
continues and tells them like, the whole reason that your
daughter ran to come see me is because she was escaping the
cage you put her in. OK.
And that's really the reason we're all here today.
She's because your mother, Ping FA, was so traumatized by what
happened with both of you that she took that all out of Lil
Nung and created this really oppressive environment for her.
And she was trying to escape that to be happy.
And then Big asks the most valid question is, do you even realize
that you harmed your own daughter?
Like, do you even see that you guys traumatized her and like,
wounded this girl like her whole life?
Do you even see that? No, the answer's no.
No, the answer is no. And so like here they are
putting big Nung on trial and big Nung's like my whole crime
was that I actually loved her like who she was Little Nung,
the person, not little Nung. The idea like the it's one thing
to be like, I would love a daughter.
Like the idea, the concept. That's big, that's Chet, right?
He's like, I like the concept of having a child.
But then when it comes to actually parenting, he's like, I
don't like this. Like that's who he is.
OK. Same thing with Pingfa to a
degree because like you didn't, you were robbed of the chance to
parent little nun. So you don't know how to parent
her. So when you actually have to
parent her, it goes poorly. So 'cause it's like the idea,
it's like expectation versus reality a little bit and big
nun's like. Chet has concepts and ideas of a
right. He has concepts and ideas of
parenting, right? Literally that's that's that's
kind of the problem. It's like having an idea versus
like the reality of that situation are two different
things. And Big Nung has just was
dragged into the reality of little known by little known and
like fell in love with her anyway and was like, she's like,
that's my crime. My crime was that I actually
loved who who she is as a person, but the family just
wants her to be the villain because it's easier to blame the
outsider than look inside and actually like be like, oh,
whoops, I have to take responsibility for my own
actions. All right.
But at this point in the conversation, like Big Nung is
upset. OK?
But again, what's going on? Little Nung is still in the OR
and they don't know what the hell is happening with her.
So like emotions are still very high at this point.
And like Big Nung is like past her breaking point with all this
bullshit cuz she's been fighting these battles with these people
for way too long and it's exhausting.
This family is exhausting. OK, definitely.
They're exhausting and like this.
These are desperate times. It's not time for niceties.
Now is the time that she needs to pull their heads out of their
asses and get them to accept the role that they played in all of
this. And she does her damnedest to
try and get them to see it. But all the adults in the room
aren't ready to be adults, like I've said.
So instead Pingfa double s down on blaming Big Nung for
everything and says if you hadn't met my daughter we
wouldn't be in the situation. OK, no, no, I don't.
I don't think. I don't think this is true
because if they hadn't met, I'm not fully convinced Little Nung
would still be here. I agree with you.
Yeah, because. I agree.
Suicidal ideation does not happen overnight, it's the
result of years of trauma and most like oh definitely
depression, no. She was definitely depressed.
Yeah, for sure. There's so much going on, like
this is not an overnight decision.
No, no, we we brushed way past the suicide thing with Lil Mung.
We like it was like a line and we never talked about it again
because it may be a societal thing where you just you don't
talk about that ever. But like, you're right, that
line didn't come out of nowhere like that.
There's a build up to somebody verbalizing that out loud.
Like the only reason why that wasn't acted on before most
likely is because of big non. Yeah, I agree.
I agree. I I is here today because of big
non like OK, so then OK, now that she's she's I think big non
ex ex fully expected Chet to shit all over here.
But then to hear it from ping FA like I thought we were Bros.
What the fuck ping FA? So this is when like big nung
starts like caving a bit, right? And then she asks what did I do
wrong? Like tell me what is my crime
judge? What is my crime here today?
Her crime is about to come up. And it's just silence.
OK, silence. And then Big Nung makes a bold
claim. She says.
I've never done anything wrong in my life.
I'm. Sorry this one.
This is the funniest line ever. This was the funniest line ever
because it gave me, you've probably seen the famous gift
from Parks and Rec where it's I've never done anything wrong
in my life ever. And the dad goes, I know this.
And then the daughter goes, money, please.
Like have you ever seen that gift?
It's one of my funniest things ever.
My wife and I quote it all the time.
It's so funny cuz like it's like a despicable human being saying
this. I'd be like, I don't do anything
wrong, give me money anyway. It's so funny.
Go watch Parks and Rec if. You I need.
To watch a show just so, you need to watch Parks and Rec.
It's one of the best shows of all time.
OK, but OK big numb. In the context of this
conversation, she's right. She didn't do anything wrong
here. She was the one who's actually
looking out for the long the whole time.
What never We are never letting you off the hook for one O sex
big nun for claiming to little nun you used her for sex.
That was despicable. That was their The body is the
footage from that episode that there was a crime.
Because that was wrong. Girl, that was so wrong.
It was it was so wrong, but also so wrong.
No one has never done anything wrong in their life.
And there's a double negative there, but even like perfect
people quote that they think that they're perfect, they
they've done something wrong. It may not be like huge thing,
but like it's just that that is it's also very subjective what
something wrong is correct morality is.
That's why Chet doesn't think he's done anything wrong either.
Yeah, even though he's a walking red flag.
Yeah, that's me. He would be in America too.
He'd. Thrive in America.
That's the gross part. He would I.
Know, but in this situation Chet and Pinkfa are being extreme
right now. Yes, and this is basically just
big numb matching their words. Yeah.
It's very wrong. But also big numb.
We love you so, we love you so much.
I'm like, girl, if I was here in this hospital, that right, that
woman could clearly never do anything wrong in her life.
Look at her. She's perfect Dior.
I don't think there's any doubt that we're on big nugs.
We're always on big nugs side. Even when she's being despicable
I still love her. Anyway.
I'm little Nung in this all all of these scenes.
Like, I still love you even though you're terrible
sometimes. I mostly find her lyric.
That line was so funny though, cuz a it made me think of Parks
and Rec and I was like, girl, what what a bold claim.
All right, So after they're like, yeah, she is perfect.
They were quiet for like a hot second while they're presumably
like presumably processing with big Nung said who knows?
Then Big Nung starts breaking like her like just like she's
doing her best to hold it together.
But like again, think of the stakes of the situation.
They still don't know what's going on.
And she starts sobbing and getting more upset than before.
And she desperately asked like why can't we just love each
other? Because really that's the root
of all of this. Like why?
Give me an actual reason why we
can't do this. Because up till now it's just
been a bunch of bullshit that you guys are making this about
yourselves. But like, why?
And then they say nothing. So she says it again, louder,
and then stares directly at Pingfa.
And Pingfa flinches a little bit when she's like directly
confronted with this question. Like almost like this passion
coming from big and that desperation that you is palpable
in the hospital. It stings her a bit.
Well, it's also kind of like the same way that she was telling
her to, like, love her back. Like, why can't we be together?
Yeah, yeah, I think Ping Pho recognizes the feelings and
that's the thing. And I do wonder, cause again,
empathy, right? Ping Pho's been in this
situation with Big Nun before and she's like, oh shit, I
understand the vibe here 'cause I wonder if up until this point
if Ping Pho really believed the depths of Big Nung's feelings
for Little Nung, 'cause remember, Big Nung has like
tried to explain it to her. She's like, you know, we're just
a regular couple that love each other, like whatever.
And she's kind of had conversations with Ping Pho
where she's trying to explain the relationship to her.
But I wonder if Ping Fu didn't like fully grasp what the hell
Big Nung was saying. And I, and I wonder if a part
part of her stayed in denial about what Big Nung was saying
because it was just easier for her to do that than like,
believe a Big Nung was saying. But like here in this moment,
listening to Big Nung pour her heart out is something Pingva
cannot ignore. Like she feels it, she flinches
and she doesn't. You can tell that Pingva's
actually really actively listening to Big Nung and
feeling things as she's processing what Big Nung is
saying to her. Like I think it finally clicks
that like what Big Nung is feeling, Big Nung a feels
things, which is new and 2nd. Like this is real.
Like it's raw. Like what?
Like the way she's delivering these lines and kind of just
like carrying on with her grief is just real.
It's so real. Ping Fu is getting emotional
from Big Nung. And it's at this time that like
Big Nung fully just breaks and she just collapses onto the
chair and asks again, like why? Why do you have to actively both
of you go against me loving your daughter?
Like why? Why are you so?
Like, why do you have to actually like, sabotage it,
basically? It's basically the same thing as
asking why is it not OK for someone to be gay.
I mean, cause like, again, this situation is a little different
because it's two things, but it's very similar.
Like give me a valid reason why we cannot be together.
Yep, and at this time, Big Nung is sitting now, so she's and
she's very hunched over 'cause like the fight like this is
draining her and she's looking up at Pingfa and Chet.
And so if you think about the body language here, like she's
kind of cowering and it's like the ML, the queen is like
powerless against these parents that are lording over her like
figuratively, literally in the scene.
And they're so hell bent on doing this that they're actively
ignoring the harm that they're causing to the alleged person
they're trying to protect in this in this situation, which is
little known. So Big Nun gets real with them
and admits the reason she can empathize with Little Dong is
'cause she was in the same situation.
She's like, I also have never felt happiness until Little Nung
came into my life. In fact, like Big Nung goes as
far to admit like she's super honest about the way she feels.
She's like, I didn't think I was even capable of loving anybody
until Little Nung came along. And like, what a sad fate to
resign yourself to Like, I I what was that like for Big Nine
to be at one point be like, I guess I just can't love anybody.
Like it. Like, it just it speaks to how
lonely she actually was for like 30 plus years of existing.
That's sad and, like, tragic. Yeah.
Like that was big.
None's love, you know, and like like we said, like little dog
probably was depressed and shit. Like imagine what she like, you
shouldn't really have powerful feelings, but like imagine what
you know mentally what she was going through.
Like who knows? Like I don't know.
Probably a big nun for making it this far.
Right. And being as put together as she
wasn't, she's kind of a disaster when we first met her.
But it's like understandable girl like that was, I mean, she
didn't have Sam. It could have been way worse.
Though, right? I, I, I will, oh I will die on
the hill. That little long situation was
worse because she was actually alone.
She's the only child that was alone.
Sam. Helped tremendously.
Yeah. And the fact that Big Nung had
to, like, look out for her sisters gave her a purpose and
something to do despite her loneliness.
That you could, like, put your loneliness aside and, like, be,
like, focusing on my sisters. But, like, Little Nung had no
options. She was just trapped, OK.
And then think about who Big Nung is saying this to.
She's saying, I've never been happy before I met your
daughter. And I didn't know I was capable
of loving anybody until she came along.
She's saying this and not just Lil Nung's parents.
She's saying it to her, quote, close friends.
And I imagine this is if they didn't know this, Ping Pho
probably knew parts of this about Big Nung because they
actually probably talked. But Chet, this is probably brand
new information for him. And so like to hear that big Nog
was like lonely the whole time he was engaged to her.
So the herd of like straight up say I didn't love anybody.
I've never been happy ever, including when I was with you,
right? Insert that into Chet's brain.
That's a lot if you didn't know that.
OK so she's admitting I was lonely and not happy even when I
was with you guys, my close friends like.
Yeah, and you know, I mean, it's a big thing because again, both
of them wanted to be with her. And I'm wondering like if a part
of both of them, even Pingfa was like still holding on to hope
that maybe one day it could happen.
Just like maybe I mean, Pingfa most like she's moved on, but
you know, like this like that little inkling, like what if
maybe one day, but this is her saying that she's never loved
them. Yes, I'm I like, but again,
she's been telling Chet this, but she's been telling Chet
this, but again, he he doesn't listen.
He didn't get it. So maybe this time it'll stick,
who knows. Who knows?
Are they still having this? Conversation now in life, in
Chet's. Brain.
Who knows? Yeah, like, OK.
But like, I wanted to insert one of my favorite songs ever that
just kind of encapsulates how Big Nuns felt or his feeling.
And it's dark blue by Jack's mannequin.
And if you hadn't heard of it, heard it, The main chorus is
dark blue. Dark blue.
Have you ever been alone in a crowded room?
And that line stuck with me forever because, yeah, I feel
like that was Big Nun's whole life.
Like, yeah, she was surrounded by people, Chet Pingfa, the
Grand Man sisters, but she always felt alone no matter
what. And like.
That is very true. Dark blue.
Because from an outsider's
perspective, she has so much. She now has both parents, she
has a grandmother, she has friends at school.
But again, her friends, I don't think they know everything
either. Little.
Nuns. They.
Yeah, little nuns. Little nuns.
Also theme song is dark blue. I'm talking about Big Nun.
But, yeah, little nuns. Oh my gosh.
Yeah. OK, All right.
All of them. I mean, again, they're very
similar. Lives.
And then the rest of the song
goes, when I'm here with you, I could see the world could be
burning, burning down, like. And it's like, that's Big Nung
and Little Nung. When they're together, they kind
of erases the loneliness. And they're like, the world
could burn now, but I finally found happiness with you.
And So what does it matter? Nothing else matters.
And that's kind of like another theme song for them, basically.
Yeah, I heard that song. Go listen to it.
Jack's Madigan. Also.
I love that band. All right, so as Big Nung
delivers the line, I never thought I could love anyone.
It pans, the camera pans to chat.
And like I said, I hope he finally heard these words and
understood them for what they were, but who knows?
And after Big Nung says the only person that made her feel loved
is little Nung, that cuts to Pingfa, who is 100% grieving her
unrecrited love for Big Nung over again.
I'm pretty sure 'cause like you said, small part of her is like
oh man, even though she's. I mean, it's big Nung.
It's probably the first person she actually fell in in love
with. Right.
That's what I mean, yeah. Like, like those big part, those
feelings are big and they're they don't always go away.
And so like, it still hurts, like even if you move on kind of
thing. I feel like that's where Ping
Fizz at maybe so big Nong asked them again.
As the adult in the room, how can you blame this outcome on me
and not take responsibility for your own actions?
And neither of them have an answer, but like I've said
before, the answer is trauma. And I've kind of already gone
through this. They're both like trapped in
their childhood basically. So the bottom line is that
neither of Little Mung's parents are fully functioning adults,
which is why they cannot properly parent.
They are still children. And I love the irony that the
only adult in this conversation is Big Nung doesn't have any
damn kids. She is not a parent, but she's
the only adult in this in this conversation.
But the reason Big Nung is here and can behave this way is
because she worked through her trauma.
Like she actually watched her on screen work through a lot of her
trauma with Little Nung and learn to like have like accept
her feelings, process them, and then talk to them with Little
Nung. That's why she can like be so
vulnerable in this scene. It's because Little Nung taught
her how to do this, and at this point she is more emotionally
mature than either Chet or Ping Pho and she's the one who's
equipped to be quote like the adult.
And I love the irony of this is that these two people have been
basically trying to dictate Luna Long's entire life.
Well, not entire life, entire life since they've met her.
Again claiming to be the adult. She's a child, what does she
know? And like ironically, like the
reason Big Nog is such a capable adult now is because Little Nog,
the quote child, taught her how to be an adult.
So like, the irony of that all is not lost on us.
OK so Chen Pingva obviously have no answer for this.
So Big Nog gets real serious and tells them I'm her everything.
She's my everything too, OK? That's how much.
That's how much little Monk means to her, and that's how
much she means to little Monk. She's like, that's it.
Like, this is not some weird fling.
It's not some, like, predatory shit.
She's my entire world and I'm hers.
And that's where our relationship actually is.
She's still trying to get them to understand that it's a
reciprocated relationship. Correct?
She is not controlling their daughter.
No. Their daughter is no longer.
Well, she's never. You can't control her anyway.
Have you met her? No, they probably don't know
her. No, and they also don't want it
to be true that it's a reciprocated relationship.
There are a few they want to be in denial because it feels
better to be in denial, be like my daughter would never then to
actually own the truth basically.
OK then we get to the saddest part of this argument where Big
Nam again is at her beyond her breaking point.
So she takes Pingfa's hand and literally begs.
She begs and Pink Pho gets real emotional but the and looks away
from Big NUM. She kinda can't handle this and
then slowly takes her hand away from Big Numb.
She's so sad. It is, it's so sad.
Because you know what? It's also kind of like how when
she told Big Numb that she was in love with her big nuns,
starting to pull away a little bit.
Oh yeah. So it's just history repeating
itself in a very different way, but still similar.
Like enough that it hurts both people.
Yeah, no, that's, that's a good parallel to draw from.
And I was wondering, I'm like, OK, of all the people, why is
she begging ping Pho and not chat?
Because chat's right there. I think it's because Bing Big
Nun knows that Ping FA1 listens when you tell her things.
But more importantly, Ping FA is the one who's more empathetic
towards Little Nung. Because Big Nung is not really
making her case here. She's advocating for Little Nung
in this scene to be like, you don't even know your daughter.
Did you know she wasn't ever happy?
Did she know she had to pretend to be happy just to make you
comfortable? Like did you know all these
things about her? Like she's advocating for Little
Nung in the scene and I think that she's seen over and over
again that Ping Pho is the one that puts Little Nun first.
They get to the hospital. What's the first thing that
happens? Ping Pho is like, how's my
daughter like? So I think that's why she kind
of like is pleading her case and like asking for mercy basically
to just please accept your daughter to Ping Pho.
But Ping Pho denies her that. So out of options and out of
allies, big nun, it just openly breaks down and starts sobbing
all over again. And she stays in her kind of
crouched position, like completely broken.
Like more broken than she was ever probably.
And the camera cuts to Chet, who finally looks guilty, so guilty
that the bitch looks away. It's like you can't watch, can't
watch her cry. He's such a dirty bitch.
I really hate him. He's an asshole.
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We have so much more to talk about.
All right, let's get back into it.
So some amount of time passes, who knows how much, And still no
word about Lil Nung's condition. So we're all still hanging out
by the trauma Bay, and Ping Pho and Big Nung are sitting on the
chairs with an empty space, a gap if you will, between them.
My. God, the aura.
What? It's not a bigger.
Gap. It's just a gap.
It's a normal gap, OK. And Chet is like chilling on the
wall. I guess he's like, well, I'm the
man. I got to be on the other side of
the wall. Whatever.
He's being weird. And this, I don't know how long
they've been here, but like, this must have been super
awkward to just like, first of all, where we left things off
big non was like having a mental breakdown on.
And then what did they do? Just be like look at each other
and, and be like, I guess I'm going to sit 'cause I'm tired.
And then chess, just like I'm just going to stand by this
wall. And it's just like awkward with
the three of them in this room. I do wonder how much.
Time has passed, right? This was weird, OK.
And then who knows? Big Young is still sobbing
though, 'cause like trauma. But then it gets worse because
the grandmother shows up and she comes running in and immediately
runs to Pingva, not Chet. Which is interesting because
Chet and the grandmother have been in cahoots the whole time
and Pingfa's the outsider of the family.
But yet, in a crisis, who does the grandmother come to?
Her daughter. Interesting.
OK but Chet is hiding behind the wall like Pingfa's the first
person she sees when she enters so I'm wondering if that has
something to do with it again. But if she like Saw Big Nung
first, no way she's going to ask her so.
She would've just punched her. Like I don't even know words.
But it's interesting that the grandmother comes running in
asking how little Nung is doing, because it's showing that she
does care about her. True.
She just cares about the family's reputation and failing
her, her failure more than yes, Oh no.
But in this moment, all that goes out the window.
She is caring about little no Yeah.
Chet is now the only person who hasn't shown that he cares how
she is doing. Are we surprised?
Did we not make the case that he
is the selfish one in this show 'cause I think we did.
OK, Your Honor, I rest my case. OK?
I don't know who's on, who's the judge?
Probably you guys at home, listeners, judges in the
comments. Where did we make the case that
Chet is the selfish one in the show?
OK, so Pingfa tells her mother they don't know anything about
Lil Nog's condition yet. She's just in the OR,
presumably. And the grandmother then starts
sobbing and Chet looks away from this because he can't handle
emotions, obviously, like I said.
And Big Nog starts to look distant because I think she
empathizes with the pain here because she also loves.
I don't know, right? But then a dark cloud passes
because the grandmother notices Big Nog 'cause Big Nun's
standing now, and Big Nun's tall, and you can't miss her
now. She was cowering the coroner.
And it's like, oh, there's a goddess in this.
Wait, a group? Wait.
No, it's a devil. Oh my God, a demon.
This was Pluto. It'd be Satan, right?
We still don't know what Pluto's about.
Guys, it's all right. Don't tell us in the comments.
We're watching it. We'll get there, but where the
gap it doesn't matter anyway. So then basically Speaking of
gap, we get the scene from Gap, the series where Song's in the
hospital and the grand man shows up and like physically assaults
Song's girlfriend in public. And that's essentially what
happens here where the grandmother assaults Nung the
girlfriend. What were these little grannies
taught that? I don't know.
It's. You first resorted to slapping
in a crisis. Oh no Gap was worse.
Like the grandma, the grand man like beat up ice in the waiting
room. It was terrible.
Like literally was assaulting this girl like she was on the
ground and like the grand man was just going and would not
stop. Like never even.
Met her before? No, didn't meet her, just was
beating the shit out of her in the middle of the hot.
Which like security anyway. I don't know what goes on in
Thai hospitals if there are security, but in America there's
security in hospitals because people in America are crazy.
We have. We just got metal detector that
you have to walk through at our hospital.
I don't even want to ask why we needed that now anyway.
Oh my gosh, that's insane. Now I brought AI know this is
not related, but I brought in an entire bag of jello and I was
questioned by the security for my mom was in the hospital.
That's all she could eat. They only had one flavor.
She wanted other flavors. That's what.
So I brought in this big bag of jello and they're like, are you,
do you only have jello in this bag?
I'm like, yeah, didn't think anything of it.
Like, yeah, weird people could probably put something in there
to sneak it in so they can. She she scans it and she's like,
oh, yeah, no, it's all jello. I'm like, yeah, I told you it
was jello. Yeah.
Then it occurred to me. But.
Yeah. But this is not the person who
needed to be slapped in the scene.
Yes, it's. But if there has to be one
person, the answer is always chat.
Yeah, but there was this whole thing like it's a butterfly
effect that's probably going to end up being, you know what,
that's your spoiler. That's your secret phrase word
thing, butterfly effect. Good luck with that.
But Big Dung is, however, slapping herself enough for all
of them on the inside like she is beating.
Herself up over this. That's insane.
But like I, I do get it it I mean it will look better on
screen and it helps you react better to it as well.
But like it's pretty extreme. I hope they needed to do that
many times. Like she already has to put
herself in a bad emotional place and to get it slapped on top of
it all. Right.
But the most surprising thing about this scene is that after
the assault happens, Chet and Pinkfa physically restrained the
grandmother. OK, they don't just they don't
let her pull a grandma and just beat the shit out of the
girlfriend in the middle of the hospital.
They actually stop her after the first slap, which I thought was
kind of surprising because like they came in here.
Well, mostly Chuck. Chuck came in here attacking nun
nun verbally. And then here's somebody who
actually physically attacks Nung and he actually stops the woman,
which is weird. I didn't that surprised me, I'm
not going to lie. And I thought about it and I
wonder if it's like, because if you think about it, when they
first saw Nung in the hospital, you know, they were adrenaline
going high. They were emotionally charged.
They didn't know what was going on with little Nung.
And so like, they're at the height of their unchecked
emotions. And so like, took it all out on
like, Pinkfoot cried and then Chet was like, you're the devil
Nung. Like they, you know, that was
how he was getting out his emotions.
But who knows how much time has passed since that last scene.
And so I think that maybe they calmed down and had time to
maybe process some of their emotions, especially when it
comes to big none because they were coexisting in that space
together, you know, But the grandmother hasn't.
The grandmother's coming in. Her gentleman's running high.
Her emotions are unchecked. She doesn't know what the Hell's
going on. Here's the devil in the waiting
room. So I think wonder if they stop
her because like the propriety of it all, like grandmother do
not cause a scene in the hospital.
You know, there's that aspect of it cause which is usually the
grandmother's number one concern.
So she's like ping pals probably like ma'am, you're going to
regret this later when I tell you you were causing a scene in
the middle of the hospital. Remember, literally every time
Lil Mung does something that's not quote proper, the
grandmother's like manners, young lady, basically ping pals
like manners, older lady, like what the hell?
So And I think that that behavior from the grandmother
who's doing something improper in public is a testament to just
how out of sorts she is really in this moment because she's
causing a social faux pas by slapping royalty in public.
Yeah, I mean, again, outsiders would be like, what the hell is
going on? Also, how are these the only
people in the waiting room? I guess there's no other
traumas. I mean, traumas are not
scheduled. They just kind of happen
whenever. So like, if they're in the
trauma Bay, like it's possible that Norman is the only person
in the trauma Bay, right? Or the trauma OR right now.
OK, that's not that's plausible. Improbable.
Yeah, it's not improbable. It's actually pretty probable.
All right. So bottom line is the
grandmother is one full scene behind everybody else.
It's kind of a problem and it's basically she starts blaming
Nun. She was chatting the prior
scene, she's blaming Nung for literally everything that
happened now. And she goes a step further.
She's like, it's your fault for what happens now and whatever
happens in the future, it's all your fucking fault now.
All right. I mean, for the grandmother
being a full scene behind, like that's when you need a little
nung stalker to have filmed everything for them.
Anyway, back to the grandmother. She isn't necessarily telling
Big Nung that it's her fault. Like she keeps screaming that
she has to be responsible for it.
And the way that she kept saying that like you have to take
responsibility, you have to be responsible.
The wording makes it seem like the grandmother might be blaming
herself for this in some way, especially failing in her
mission to make sure little Nung turned out perfect.
And she can't let herself take responsibility, and it's almost
as if she's begging Big Nung to take full responsibility so she
doesn't have to feel it. It doesn't make it right, but it
looks desperate. Not like she's actually accusing
her. It puts her on par with Chet,
who also refuses to take responsibility.
Who's the real adult in the scene?
Everyone. Little Nung.
Big nung. How long is that in this scene?
That's true. She doesn't have to be in.
The scene to be the adult in the scene there all right, but it
back to the scene. So apparently the grandmother
isn't done manhandling Nung and she still manages to break free
of Tret and Ping Pho which like go to the gym.
You too. What the hell, you can't even
hold back an elderly woman like what the hell is wrong with you
guys? And the grandmother manages to
get loose and get a few more shoves in at Nung before she's
restrained again by her useless daughter and whatever the hell
Chet is. OK?
Thankfully, at this point, the trauma surgeon chooses to come
out of the OR and he enters the chat and he's like, are you Her
family doesn't verify a damn thing.
And then he's like, all right, let me tell you all of her
health information. Cuz like, I'm like, Sir, what,
what is this? But I assume she's the only
patient. And so these people are hanging
out here. So he's like, are you with the
trauma patient? Cool.
Let me tell you what's going on. But when he asks if there are
relatives, Chet is the one to immediately step in and say he
is the father. And like again, he only cares
about looking like he has the power here and like he's in
charge. Right.
Yeah, exactly. He's in charge.
She. Doesn't say shit like most of
the scene, no. It's all about appearances,
right? OK, so then the trauma surgeon's
like, all right, here's what happened.
She's got a broken arm and a traumatic brain injury, which is
pretty lucky for somebody who was in a motor vehicle accident.
I'm like, how does she not have broken ribs?
You're telling me all she got was a broken arm and then a
traumatic brain injury or TBI? That makes that makes sense.
But like, damn, OK. She got pretty lucky, actually.
But the catch is because of the TBI, little Lung is in a coma.
And she's like, we don't know when she's going to wake up from
the coma because, like, brains are weird, basically.
And the three family members kind of console each other in
the corner. So like, Chet Ping Pho and the
grandmother are like, OK, she's OK, whatever, She's OK.
And then poor big nun sits back down by herself on the sad chair
and it's like processing this all by herself.
So that's where we're at. The family unit is back to being
a unit and big nuns the outsider and like, but at least we know
that she's alive, OK? That's all we know.
Then I assume she gets out of the OR and they give her her own
private room. And then we cut to that private
room where Little Nung is surrounded by her family and Big
Nung. And I'm not gonna lie, I'm
shocked they let her into the room.
I'm like, how did she get? Into this room.
Right, many steps had to happen before we got into this room and
they let her in the room, which is wild but I wonder if like
doctors or nurses were with little nung and it's like we got
our shit together now we can't cause a scene.
Gotta wait till the doors closed.
I wonder if that's what it was. Because again, grandma, they had
to calm the grandmother down. They're like, all right, let's
look, calm down, Lee. And I watch the propriety,
propriety. And then like, I wonder if that
kicked in and she's like, can't count on the sea and slap
royalty in the middle of the hospital again.
Anyway, So. So for some reason, they let big
nun like close enough to touch little nun.
I don't understand how this scene actually happened when you
understand mentally where everybody else in the room is
at. But for some reason they're
like, OK, big Nung, you can touch little Nung now.
And so we hear rather than see Big Nung sobbing hysterically as
she like starts like touching Little Nung because it's like,
it's that thing where remember when in two O 3 when Lola Nung
disappeared and Big Nung broke every traffic law in Thailand to
go find her in the Isle of Lesbos And she finds her and
she's a hysterical mess until she hugs Big Nung or until she
hugs Little Nung. It's one of those things where
it's like, I can see that you're OK and I can feel that you're
OK. It's just like that thing where
she's like, I have to touch her to know that she's real and that
she's alive and I'm like dreaming.
And so that physical touch is grounding to Big Nung.
It's always been grounding. Lil Nung knew that Lil Nung
always took advantage of the physical touch because she knows
it helps Big Nung center her dark thoughts.
Interestingly, the women are all around Little Nut.
OK, you got Ping. Pho and the mom are next on one
side of the bed. They're united front in the
scene, looking over long big nuns on the other side of the
bed, touching her hand, touching her face, doing all those
things. Trent's in the corner where he
belongs. Mind you, quietly for now,
watching Big Nun and Ping foot like hover, watching everybody
hover along. He doesn't know what to do, and
like even if Little Numb was awake, he still wouldn't know
what to do. Again, he's not a father.
No, he's been cosplaying a father.
That, that that's a great way to he's got he, he does what he's
good at, be close to the situation in order to have the
attention be on him, but don't actually act on anything.
That's basically his parenting philosophy.
Yeah. He's worse.
Yeah. So, Q, what happens next?
Because of course, we can't just have nice moments.
Chad has to get up and ruin it. And so he demands now that Big
Nung leave, he's like, she's safe.
You can say that. There's no reason for you to be
here anymore. But he doesn't say anything
until he sees that Big Nung caresses little Nung's cheek,
cause like that's when it gets too intimate and too gay for his
demon eyes. Yes, and ever the good teammate
to chat, the grandmother chimes in and she's like, I won't let
you ever step foot in this room again.
And Big Dong stares at this woman and like the read I have
on her face is like, it's not that she's like, this is
unbelievable. I can't believe this.
It's more like a disappointment. I think, 'cause she's like, I
can empathize with you. Why can't you empathize with me
kind of thing. And I think like on some level,
from her own experience, Big Nung knew that the grandmother
was going to be the hardest person to convince of her love
for Little Nung. Because think about her
experience at the Grand Man. Like the Grand Man never wanted
to talk about anything that didn't fit her narrative.
And so she denied Big Nung those heart to heart conversations she
needed. She like took that shit to the
grave. So Big Nung at this stage
doesn't even like bother trying to plead her case or trying to
like empathize with this woman or get this woman to empathize
with her because like, it's not going to work.
But her empathy does like connect with one person in the
room and that's Pingfa. So when everybody else is like,
get out knowing you're forbidden from coming in here, Pingfa says
please, please go because like, everyone's getting emotional
again. And like, it's like World War 3
is about to break out. Pink was like, please go.
I'll call you when she wakes up. So like Pingfa is saying like,
I'll keep you updated because I, I, I, she can see Big Nong is
worried, right? And she's like, I'll do you this
kindness of like keeping you updated, which is more than the
rest of them we're going to do right now.
When we were watching, if you watched our reaction video, I
was firm under the belief that there's no way in hell Big Nun
was ever going to leave the hospital unless Lung woke up.
And I still believe that because under normal circumstances, if
Lung was out cold, there's no way Big Nung leaves her side for
more than three seconds. Like there's no way she would
ever voluntarily, voluntarily leave Little Nung.
But these are not normal circumstances since she doesn't
exactly have a choice right now. So she talks to Little Nung and
promises her I'll come see you again at this.
Point Pingfa is really the only one who could convince her to
leave though, because. Yeah, that's true.
I know she wouldn't really have a choice of Chet or the
grandmother said it, but it would take a lot more.
With Pingfa, she has proved that she does care about Little Nung,
the only one who really, I mean the grandmother, yes, but she
does prioritize other things over a little note, and Pingfa's
the most likely to let her see Little again.
Yeah, that's the bottom line part yeah cuz you're right.
Cuz if like if she just had to deal with Chet and the
grandmother like a fight a brawl would break out basically.
Yeah. OK, so then big none kind of
accepts defeat here. And then as she exits makes
lingering eye contact with Chet. And like, I couldn't fully
understand her expression here. If it's like she's challenging
him, like like being like I am going to come back and see her
again. Like I don't really know what
this linger like disappointment in Chet.
I don't know what this look really was to be honest with
you. I paused it on her face and like
again she's still sad. Well yes, but her her face to me
looks like she's saying you are an asshole and a terrible
father. I wish you weren't in any of our
lives. Is that what her face said, or
is that what our brains are saying 'cause like?
Both, yeah. OK, here's where you're probably
right. So what happens?
What I think is kind of telling. OK, so then Big Nung leaves,
right? So now there's an empty spot by
the bed where she was standing. So what does Chet do?
He comes right in and takes that spot as if again, to my point
earlier, he was been trying to get rid of Big Nong so that he
can step in and get all of the. This is what her and Ping Pong
were him and Ping Pong were trying to do.
Get rid of Big Nong, the person that Long clearly is
affectionate towards, so we can scoop up all the affection.
So what does he do? As if in his mind, Little Long
didn't love him because Big Nung was there taking up all that
space. And now that Big Nung's gone,
there's all that empty space so he can swoop in and claim all of
her love. So he's physically doing that
now. Now that Big Nung is gone.
Meanwhile, what were the women in the room doing like?
They never left her side like Mom and grandmother never left
Little Long Side. Chet waited until Big Nung was
out of the picture for him to then I hate him so much.
I. Don't as if you didn't know what
an opportunist piece of shit that he is constantly and it's
just this scene just was why I hate him so broken hearted.
Big Nung returns to the Bua palace and she's just in like
zombie mode. She's just walking to the
palace. There's no emotions she's just
holding it together enough to get into her room and she walks
right past Auntie Nim like she doesn't even see her OK and just
keeps going until she gets it goes up the stairs basically.
And Auntie Nim looks worried like what the fuck is this?
Like big nun looks so lifeless and just like a void of like any
emotion, which is not something she's seen from big Nung
probably since she moved back into the palace.
Because remember when Big Nung moved back into the palace, it
was on the cusp of the grand man dying.
And so big Nung was upset when the grand man died and also like
upset about the relationship with little Nung ending because
of her despicableness at the end of one O 6.
But also like that was the last time she was like really that
upset. And so like this is worse.
She's like catatonic walking around and so and James, like
what on earth happened? You're a completely different
person today. And also like what time it is
that you're just getting home now.
Like nung nung nung stay out late.
She's 30, never Like where the hell was she like?
Her bedtime is 9:00. Right now it's like in the same
she's like what happened to Nung something and she does not look
OK. So ATM clocks this and I think
call Sam off screen so cuz Sam's got spies in the palace like
let's be honest one of Sam's spies called her after this.
So big Nung then enters her empty room and the little Nung
doll is waiting for her on top of the bed.
And if there's ever a time that big Nung needed to hug anything
including a doll it's right now. So I'm so glad she has this
doll. So she climbs under the bed and
like cradles the doll, which is the stand in little Nung OK, and
says I'm sorry. And like again, cuz like big
Nung only says I'm sorry to little Nung.
So she's saying it to the doll cuz like she's again saying what
she wanted to say to little Nung to the doll.
And she kind of says that a few times and then hugs the doll and
just like starts crying. And I wonder, like with the I'm
sorry if like the family bullshit is starting to get to
her and Big Nun does feel guilty about everything and is blaming
herself for like the outcome just just like she did with
Song, even though it's like big Nun, you're 1 actor in the play.
Like this isn't entirely your fault.
Like you played some part but not the everybody made choices,
right? And I wonder if she's back to
that dark place like she was with Song.
So if some amount of time passes and Big Young is still curled up
on the bed, clutching the doll like a lifeline and just, like,
crying endless tears, right? And one thing, I'm surprised,
I'm honestly surprised that she didn't listen to the voice
recording on a repeat of little Ron with the cute birthday wish.
But I mean, we never see her do that.
That's the part that I think is weird.
But like, at this stage it's probably too soon and like,
painful to even fathom listening to her voice right now, but I'm
just surprised we didn't get a scene of her doing that at some
point during all of this. Yeah, I could see that.
I could see a way like, like a reason she would avoid it
completely. A reason she would keep playing
it over and over, just memorizing every tone and
inflection in her voice. It's it's big.
No, you can never fully predict what she's going to do.
But I think it's, I think it's too soon right now, personally.
She never lets go of this doll though, and she also keeps her
phone as close as possible because she is not about to miss
Ping Pho's call. No, probably.
She probably never kept that phone so charged in her life.
I'm surprised it's not like plugged.
In. As right now, right?
I agree. All right.
But before Pingfa can even call, Big Nung beats her to it and
calls Pingfa 1st to check up on Little Nung.
She's like you told me. You're gonna tell me when she
woke up, I'm gonna call you, right?
Yeah, and when she calls her, we see little Nung in the room
again, and Pingfa is the only one by her side at this point,
which is very telling. All right, so Big Nung's like,
what the hell, What's going on? And Pingfa reports there's been
no change to her condition. She's still, like, out in a
coma, basically. And Big Nung flips out and
accuses Pingfa of lying to her. She's like, you're lying just to
keep me away from her. Like I know it, which is a very
defensive response. But I don't blame Big Nung for
like jumping to this accusation based on how she left things
with the family. And I think, you know, because
she's like, you guys obviously just want to keep us apart no
matter what. That's why we're all here.
Let's be honest. But I think she's also lashing
out because the truth of that statement hurts too much.
Like if there's no change, like she's not getting better, you
know, like that reality is hard to accept, right?
So cuz in Big Nung's mind, she's like Little Nung has to be OK
because like, what happens to me if she something out?
Like, you know what I mean? She's like, she has to be OK so
I can be OK. Like she has to be OK.
Like I don't think Big Nung can fathom living in a world where
Little Nung doesn't exist. So like, she has to be OK,
right? I think that's where her brain's
at. But Pinkfin says she isn't lying
because. And Pinkfin's like she's like,
no, why would I lie to you? Like everyone's worried about
her. I'm worried like Pinkfin's
terrified because she doesn't understand why her daughter
hasn't woken up yet. So let's take a moment to answer
Pingfa's question. Why isn't why isn't she awake
yet? Non OK.
We're about to get. Doctor T in the house little
long suffer from a traumatic brain injury or a TBI because of
her motor vehicle accident. OK so like car hits her, she
goes flying and then head hits pavement.
OK, that's the brain injury. All right, Yes, she has a broken
arm, but that's not why she's in a coma.
We're going to focus on the brain.
This is why she's in a coma. OK, Because what, when the when
the car hit her, OK, we call that blunt force trauma.
So if something hard hits her, she topples over versus like
penetrating trauma, which is something like then stabs into
the body kind of deal. She didn't have that blunt force
and then her head hit the pavement, which is really,
really hard. OK, so because this happened to
her brain, her brain is unable to function normally until it
heals, if it even can. That's kind of like unclear also
in this situation. Cause like there'd be a lot of
swelling and it's like kind of hard to tell what's going to
happen now. But like she's not on any
machines that are keeping her alive.
So no breathing apparatus, nothing like that.
So like her organs are functioning, which is a good
sign because like that's all kind of connected to your
central nervous system, which starts at the brain, goes down
your spine, and that keeps you functioning on like a organ
level. OK, so like that's a good sign,
but her brain sustained a lot of trauma.
So like, it has to heal. OK, Our brains are super fragile
organs, which is why we have skulls, which are very hard bone
that protects them at all time. So while her brain recovers from
this trauma that happened to it, she's going to like be
unconscious. Like the brain kind of shuts
down while it heals. OK, So like, what does that
actually mean when they say she's going to be unconscious?
So there's psychological unconsciousness.
So meaning she's not aware of what's going on, like mentally
because like, her eyes are going to be closed, she can't perceive
things. And a lot of that perception
comes from nerves, which comes from the brain and the spinal
cord and that kind of stuff. It's also like this would mess
with her spinal cord too, depending on how she fell.
But anyway, that's not important.
So there's that her ability to be aware of her surroundings is
going to be impaired while she's in the coma.
But then there's also neurological unconsciousness,
which is when parts of the executive function of the brain
is going to shut down. Sorry, I have a dog that's
barking while the brain slows down and recuperates basically.
And that manifests as the paralytic coma, which is why
she's not moving at all, OK. Because you can be unaware of
shit and still like retain kind of a function of like your limbs
and things like that. But like she's paralytic coma.
OK, so. When ATBI happens, there are
multiple phases of recovery that are going to happen.
First is the coma stage, OK, which is where she's at right
now. So that's that neurological and
psychological unconsciousness that she's experiencing.
Then you'll transition into something called a vegetative
state where the brain is starting to like recuperate its
functions again. OK.
So like, she might get to the stage where she can like, open
her eyes or she'll be able to like, sleep and wake up on her
own. She may not be able to like, be
super aware. Like she might not be able to
track things with her eyes. She might not be able to like
speak or like command parts of her body.
But like, there's more evidence that like, she can function,
right? OK.
But she still can't function independently neurologically or
psychologically at that point. And then as she kind of keeps
progressing, she'll end up in a like a minimally conscious kind
of state where she has more function where like maybe she
can kind of track things with her eyes.
She maybe she is able to speak sometimes and maybe she can
recognize things. Maybe she can kind of move her
arms sometimes, things like that.
Like you'll start seeing like more as she progresses all the
way to like full recovery, if that's even possible.
Depending on the TBI, you'll see her be able to do more things,
work that the brain controls basically, so from vegetative
state. And that will be in her, like
she'll be conscious, but like she'll have degrees of
impairment depending on like actually kind of recover.
So until she can like fully function again, both
psychologically and neurologically.
OK. So there's multiple phases to
this recovery that she's going to be through or go through.
OK Make sense so far. Yeah.
OK, so at this stage, Lil Nung is directly out of the trauma
Bay. We don't know what time it is
because we don't know how long Nung's been sleeping with the
doll. We don't know what the Hell's
been. We never know what time it is.
But like. Right.
It's like been, we know that from the next scene, it's been
less than two days since the accident.
That's all we know. So she's basically just came out
of the accident essentially. And so she's in her in the coma
stage, OK, which is the most severe in terms of lack of
consciousness on every, every level.
So that means that she's not able to like, open her eyes.
She can't regulate sleep, She can't function at all basically
aside from like her organs are functioning on their own.
That's basically it. So the question is like the
doctor couldn't answer like when she's going to be conscious
again and like being a doctor, OK, those words mean stuff.
OK. So when you say conscious, that
means something different to a doctor than just a lame layman's
terms because, like, conscious is like, you're awake and moving
around and stuff. And like, conscious of a doctor
is like, they can fully function neurologically, psychologically.
And so like, he doesn't know the answer to that question because,
like, it's hard to determine that.
But we want to know is like, when is she going to come out of
this coma stage? Because that's the most critical
and severe of all the stages. OK.
And if she can get out of that, then it looks good for her.
So the exact duration of a coma after a TBI is it's often you
don't know, OK, but rarely does it last more than four weeks.
Now before you get mad at chow, because we know how long the
Long's going to be out for. The coma stage is the first
stage in the road to recovery after a TBI.
OK, So if we take the maximum time, 4 weeks, OK.
So at minimum, at most little long is going to be in the coma
stage for four weeks. But what happens after that?
How will she progress into the other stages?
And so she's fully conscious and like able to function again.
OK, so I will put a chart on screen for those who can the
video that like it really depends.
Like she can progress pretty rapidly and it's matter of weeks
before she comes out of all of these stages.
It can be months. It kind of just depends.
And there's a lot of factors that can play a role in this,
including like the extent of the injury itself, which we don't
really know, and her health at baseline.
OK. So bottom line is the more
severe the TBI, the longer the duration of consciousness
because the brain needs more time to recover, right?
Which makes sense. The greater the injury, the
longer the recovery makes sense. The one factor that she has
working for her is the baseline health thing with meaning before
the accident, how healthy was she?
She's a very young woman, like medically speaking without
comorbidities. So it's just not really nothing
wrong with her a baseline that would be expected to impair
healing on any level. So like, you would expect her
just based on that to like, recover very quickly.
But I wonder if this is where Little Hung's quote, childhood
ailments kind of come into play. Because if those were real
things that she was dealing with under, like, that's an
underlying medical condition, perhaps that impairs her ability
to heal when something trauma happens to her body like this.
So like, maybe that slows it down.
But like, because we never got clarity on what the hell was
wrong with her. So like maybe, maybe, maybe.
OK, but let's say the coma stage lasts 4 weeks.
After the coma stage, she's going to go to that vegetative
state where she's still kind of out of it, but like there's more
neurological movement happening with her indicating her brain
functions recovering, like eye, the eyelid twitching, body
twitching, things like that. OK.
So if she can reach the vegetative state, come out of
the coma 4 weeks after the TBI, which is like the maximum that
usually happens of the patients that can achieve that, about 60
to 90% of them will recover their consciousness and that can
take up to a year after the accident.
So it's not like Grey's Anatomy where someone moves a finger and
then they all of a sudden are awake and can speak.
No, not at all. This was more realistic,
actually. The way they play this out, then
no, that's not how that happens. I don't.
OK Grey's Anatomy is not super accurate.
It's Grey's Anatomy. I know that, but like a lot of
shows do that. Because, like, they don't have a
year to linger on this patient. You have to wrap their shirt up
in 60 minutes. All right?
So, like, this is actually the reality of what Lilong's loved
ones are dealing with. Like, her actual full recovery
can take up to a year, OK? And the longer she's
unconscious, the longer she's in the coma stage and even the
vegetative stage, the more advanced her medical care needs
are going to become. And this is where I get taken
out of the show because I have no evidence on screen that she
has any of these advanced medical care interventions
happening. There's a couple that happened,
like realistic things that I'm appreciative of, but like she
would need feeding tubes to feed her because nothing happened to
her abdomen. There's no evidence that like
any of that happened. Her ribs aren't broken, nothing
like that. So she can still eat, but like
she'd need a feeding tube to feed her.
She's not going to be able to urinate on her own.
So she'd need like a Foley. They would have to come in there
and offload her because if she's laying down for an extended
period of time, you're at risk for pressure sores, which can
get infected. They would have to move her
around to prevent that from happening.
And I see no evidence of that on screen.
So that takes me out personally. But aside from like that, the
timeline of what happens to Little Nung because she's out
for like 3 months is what we know from the episode.
It's not that far fetched actually.
But for me personally, like her medical care needs on screen
would reflect that that time elapse.
One thing that does happen that I appreciate is like, eventually
when she wakes up, there is evidence that she does actually
need to recover. Like we see her doing physical
therapy because, yeah, her muscles are going to waste while
she's laying there. So that was super realistic.
I was really appreciative of that.
Like, that's so real because yeah, it's not like Grey's
Anatomy where like the hand twitches and all of a sudden
everything's fine and like she's totally normal and can move
around. That would no, you can barely
stand after you've been immobile for three months.
That's insane. So and the other thing too that
like when she wakes up, I appreciate about is that she
doesn't seem mentally 100% there.
Like she's very slow and she's like, I'm tired already.
That's realistic. Because when she transitions
like even to the wakefulness stage, her cognition's not going
to be there 100% after as bad of a brain injury as she has.
Like she's like she's going to have like brain fog and she's
going to be slow mentally because her brain is it's still
recovering actively. So like, I think Yoko did a
really good job of like being realistic about it, like when
she comes out of the coma, because like, yeah, like she, I
feel like she would have a degree of cognitive impairment
for like probably months even after getting out of the
hospital. Like because that's a, that's a
big trauma to your brain, which is a fragile organ, so.
Well, I learned a lot about comas.
I just thought there was two different states.
You're in a coma or you're up in a walking.
Though And the most and again, if you don't work in medicine,
that is your perception, but it's like it's more nuanced.
So when the doctor comes out and they said, I don't know when
she's going to be conscious again, you don't know when
they're going to be walking around to get like full
consciousness is being able to walk around and like function
like you were before. You can't know that.
That's impossible to know. But he could say, well, I expect
her to come out of a coma in about four weeks.
And if she could do that, then eventually she'll recover in
about a year. But he could have told them
those statistics. But like.
This is more dramatic. That and also like, again, you
got to ask doctors the right questions because like he
answered correctly for what they were actually what the words
they used, but like, it's a different language is what I'm
trying to say. OK, so let's go back to the
scene. So Big Nung is confused because
the doctor said she's safe, which like, again, the doctor's
being real. He's like, yeah, I know she's in
the Kilma stage, that's good. But like, I don't know what's
going to happen after that. But again, they're not medical
people. So like, I don't understand.
I thought she was good. Why is she still unconscious?
And Ping Pho, this is where I get taken out.
Ping, Pho responds. This is a side effect of when
she stopped breathing. When did she stop breathing?
OK, so it doesn't make sense this is a side effect of the TBI
not stopped breathing. But I wonder if this line is
indicating the severity of the the trauma, which I would expect
her to have different different wounds.
So it could be that like again, this doesn't make any sense.
I assume it means that she like underwent like cardiac arrest
maybe which doesn't make sense because she wasn't injured
enough to be like have enough bleeding to.
I don't know why she would lose unless she the only thing she
had an allergic reaction to like a Med they gave her and like had
anaphylaxis because like her injuries don't make sense for
like stopping breathing. Someone was eating a banana near
her. Yeah, yeah.
Or like, I mean, that can happen.
You give them anesthesia and you don't know if they're allergic
to give it to them. That does happen, yeah.
I, I guess it's just indicating that her trauma was so severe
that, like, there was a degree of organ damage.
But then that doesn't make sense to me because if she stopped
breathing, she'd be intubated right now and on a ventilator to
help her breathe. So like, there's no evidence
that that actually happened here.
So. Or like even if she could
breathe on her own at this stage in the coma, if she really
really lost the ability to breathe, she would be
mechanically ventilated right now as a way to protect her
airway and like in case she loses the ability again if it
was related to the TBI. So like this doesn't really make
sense to me as a line, but I think it's like the trauma was
bad is the the bottom line from this.
So my medical pet peeves aside, bottom line is that these two
women are super worried about Lil Nung and they don't
understand what's going on, which is totally reasonable
because they're not doctors. And I get it in ping fee, even
voices allowed. The worst case scenario is like
if little Nong doesn't wake up, what do I do?
Like what if she dies basically? In this moment, this is Pinkfa
asking her best friend for advice.
Yeah. Like the history is there, every
all current situation is gone. She needs her best friend.
Yeah. 'Cause she needs someone there
for her, 'cause no one else is there.
They're like again, Chet and the grandmother.
Grandmother is kind of there for little Nong, but they're they're
both there for themselves yes yeah they don't and they also do
not care how ping fuzz feeling most.
No, nobody cares about how Ping Fuzz is feeling.
No, no, not at all. And yeah, I like that you said
that. It's a friend asking her for
advice and Big Dong has no answer for this.
Like right away. She's just like, she just cries
because this is her absolute worst fear.
And it just became a very real possibility.
Like coming from Ping Pho, who's in the room with Little Nung,
you know, And I, I wouldn't like, I think this line of
thinking, if Big Nung really thought it through, what if she
never wakes up, would take Big Nung down a path that she'd
never recover from? Like, that's the darkest
possible place, right? And so for her own benefit and
for Ping Pho's her friend, she says Little Nung's going to make
it out of this. She has to.
OK, because I don't think Big Nun can live with the
alternative, even if it's like hypothetical, and neither can
Ping Pho, and Ping Pho is not in a good spot right now.
So I'm glad that Big Nun says this because all they have right
now is hope and statistics, right?
If she can make it out of the coma stage, it's a high chance
she'll recover, right? OK, then we cut over to the next
day. I don't know where Sam arrives
at the Bua Palace and I assume off screen Auntie Nam contacted
Sam because she's worried about Big Nung or Sam's spy at the
palace contacted her. I was like, oh, I just say no,
your sister's whiling out. If someone's a spy, it's just.
And she's just. Yeah, she.
Definitely is a spy because she said it to Mon.
She's bragging about it or no Mon ratted her out.
She's like Sam doesn't know what's going on.
One of her spies at the palace told her that Long Long was
living with you again. Remember that scene?
She definitely has a spy. She we know that mom told us all
right. So Itty Dam thankfully tells us
what time it is. She's like, it's been 2 days Sam
since the accident and Big Nong's being weird.
So I assume Big Nong never left the room and was just like
crying her eyes out clutching that doll for two days straight.
And Itty Dam's biggest alarm is that Big Nong is refusing to
eat. So that's the biggest red flag
ever. If you know Big Nong and Sam
ever the oh sorry, go ahead. I just said seriously, that's
she's not lying. Huge biggest red flag.
And Sam, ever the devoted sister, reassures AT&M.
I'll take care of it. She's like heat up the kanji.
Basically. I'm going upstairs.
And I assume with Sam, her experience taking care of the
grandma was helpful to the scene because Big Nung and the grandma
are very similar. So I think Sam has been training
for this moment, whether she realized it or not, by being the
caretaker of like Nung Senior, basically, who is the grand man.
So Sam enters the room and it's pitch black.
It is like death in this room. Like he's just ominous as fuck.
And she comes in and the light from outside kind of hits Nung,
who is asleep. And like Big Nung like wakes
kind of like wakes up because of the light and we can see that
she's wearing different clothes. So like big Nung had the energy
at least enough to like change clothing.
So that's something. All right.
And Sam gets on the bed and starts talking to Nung in a very
soft voice and like is brushing her hair and like doing whatever
she can to just be supportive in this scene.
And like Nung, the minute she wakes up starts crying and me
like immediately starts crying and she just says, like, Sam,
you're here. And like, I don't think Nung
knows what the fuck's going on. She's just like Sam's here.
And just like it's so evident to Sam that like Nung is not OK.
And Sam's like, come on, Nung. Like if you, if you, if you keep
staying in here and like not eating and moving, like you're
going to get sick like and waste away.
And like, you know, I, she's basically Sam's like, I'm
worried about you. That's why I'm here.
And then Sam, just like she doesn't push Nung, she doesn't
do anything else. She just pulls her no hug.
And then just like let's Nung like hold on to her in like a
death grip and just like cry. And that's really how the scene
ends. It's just Nung crying her eyes
out, holding Sam. Imagine this was the opposite
way when like their parents died and like this is the first time
that Sam has to like comfort big nung that's probably.
True. No, I was probably the one that
had to comfort her sisters when they were sad over that.
It had to be the strong one, you're right.
So then Sam gets to like repay the favor.
Damn, way to make that even sadder.
I'm good at making things sadder, I told you that.
Caitlin is very good at making things sadder.
Should we just end the episode here?
I think we should. Oh yeah, yeah, this is the end
of the episode. All right, so that was sad as
fuck. Sorry guys, but at least it ends
with Big Nung, so there's that It's big Nung, all right, so
biggie energy award Personally, Big dawg, telling off the
parents is probably the best thing, especially when she's
like Chet, stop pretending like your father who loves her
daughter. Like can we stop take off the
cosplay outfit? Like shut the fuck up Jed.
I love that scene. I'm pretty sure that's the only
big gay energy award. I I mean, Sam coming to the
rescue at the end. Auntie Nim also like looking out
for not like, OK, so like I bring up the song like dark blue
like, because I think that's how big Nung feels sometimes.
But like, here's the evidence that like she does have people
who love her, who see her, who support her behind the scenes.
Like, you know, like Auntie Nim was knew her well enough to be
like, she's not OK, It's been 2 days.
Let me call Sam and Sam I assume was like fuck work I don't need
to do work because she never works and just like immediately
went to his Nung side and like she doesn't remember.
She has. Work she doesn't remember.
Also like I do like that Sam came alone and didn't bring Mon.
I love Mon. I'm not saying anything against
Mon, but like this is a Sam didn't know what she's going to
walk into and like came by herself to like because like
like nong, I think like just needed Sam and so like I like
that Sam came by herself to like come take care of Nong and
didn't like bring Sam. I mean bring nong.
So you like that she did that. Yeah, and fine.
I hope your cheeks OK from that slap girl.
You didn't need to do that. I hope your eyes are OK, your
cheek, your brain. I hope you're OK.
Yeah, this is a lot of being sad as an actor.
Like this must have been exhausting to film all of this.
Like I'm sure the sleeping on the bed, which is her being
fucking tired from all the crying.
It's like what I said, action like damn it.
This show is exhausting. For her, the show is exhausting.
All right. Do you have any Taylor Swift
songs for this? I think Exile is my song.
When we were happy because she was thinking back to like when
they were happy. What's when we were happy?
I don't remember that song. It's just most more likely.
Well, no, the song is when it was good baby, it was good baby.
All of and like, it's not necessarily that they broke up,
but it's the fact that everyone else is getting in the way of
them. Oh, yeah, 100,000 million
percent. Yeah.
I think exile because, like, again, it's a conversation
between one person who's like, this is your fault and the other
one's like, no, it's your fault. And you couldn't see the signs
of all this. And you still refuse.
And you still refuse to take responsibility for the role you
played in this falling apart. Like it's dung.
It's Taylor Swift in the song. And then like, the dude is like
the family who's like, you never gave a warning sign you did all
this and she's like, I gave a ton of signs.
You're just refusing to take responsibility.
Now we're in exile. We're not talking.
And Nung's the one unfortunately being exiled from the situation.
Oh yeah, Exile is definitely very good.
The person who also agreed with me?
I'm sorry, my dog is a pain in the ass.
The person who agreed with me on ours, like commented before I
even brought it up, it was Pooja.
Yeah, Pooja also brought up My boy only breaks his favorite
toys. And I started actually singing
that. And I I had to keep singing it
because I was like, what song is this?
And I was like, I have. To get to the chorus.
So it's like starts here we are again, voices in this in I, I
don't actually know the actual words, but it just the little
bit I know matches like we're back here again.
It's always broken. Yeah, just won't be happy, man.
I mean, we'll get there. It's just, you know, this is the
traumatic injuries. Episode no.
That's what Big Nun's thinking. Yeah, definitely what Big Nun's
thinking. I mean, poor Big Nun.
I don't even think she's capable of thinking at the end of the
stage. She's just like dead inside.
'Cause like, she's not even really.
She's literally like being kept in the dark like which is the
saddest. Imagine being her like your
respective partner May you're being torn apart from by her
family is now like she's in critical condition in the
hospital and you're forbidden from like seeing her like that
must drive her insane. You know what I mean?
Like that part again, the control freak like she can't
control any of this and she doesn't know what's going on.
She's literally in the dark about what's happening.
That must drive her crazy. So anyway, what did you guys
think of this episode? This was long as fuck because
hello you're new here. Of course it is of course it is.
So we'll be back to discuss the rest of episode 2.
Who knows how many I mean two O 6.
Who knows how many parts this will be we'll see because it's
blank. If you want to send Blank off
the the best possible way that we can because the show deserves
it. So that's what we got.
Let us know what you think and until next time, hydrate for
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