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Cheers queers. What's on the big age end of
today, Theora? Today we have a very special
episode dedicated to one of our favorite series, the Loyal Pin
Woo. You all been wanting it.
Yes, it. Was coming, right?
Here it is. Oh, I hope you knew it was
coming. We were like, what is this?
If you're out there being like, what is this?
Go on YouTube right now and go watch the loyal pin.
What's going on, man? Go watch that.
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you're here, welcome, We hope you enjoy this.
So to people have been asking us like are are like, hey, we're
excited for you guys to like get into the loyal pin and like
normally we do deep dive episodes, but that is not what
this is going to be because we don't have time right now to
jump into the loyal pin in a deep dive.
We it would literally take us six months to cover the loyal
pin and a ton of tiger love shows have come out that we
really want to talk about and highlight.
And just in case you've never seen it to be like, go watch
this because it's awesome. And the loyal pin is one of
them. So this episode is mostly just
going to be a what did we love about the series?
And we're specifically going to talk about the series that was
created by Idol Factory that stars Farina Becky, because we
did deep dives discussions about the novels.
So this is literally just going to be about the series.
We're not going to compare it to the novel.
It's just about the series. So that's what we're going to do
today. It's just an overview of what we
loved. And we also asked you what you
what you guys liked about it. And so we're going to talk about
what we like and then what everybody commented to us about
what they like. And that's what this episode is
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show we cover. Absolutely.
So Are you ready to get into why we love the loyal Pin the
series? Yes.
OK, let's get going. I'll start first.
This is just going to be a free for all discussion.
I would like to say that that something that I loved about the
series is that it's hands down Idle Factory's best series.
Yes, Idle Factory's best series. Like wow, is that production
company or studio come a long, long way with the girl of
productions like coming from gap to Idle to like the oil pin.
It's like night and day and it's amazing.
Like the if you watched our reaction videos, I think pretty
much in every reaction video we say how flawless the production
was. Like yes, it's visually gorgeous
and they clearly put a lot of time and effort into it.
And so like, if anybody from the crew was watching this for some
reason, thank you crew members, because the costume like the
like everything, the lighting, just it was so good.
Like everybody put their heart and soul into it.
And it's a beautiful television show.
And we only saw a couple spotlights.
Only a couple I know. What a step up, Yeah.
Yeah, like that is a. Change.
What a change we say that. Lovely.
Yes, it's. A different directing site.
I do love seeing it as well because I'm like, oh what light
did they use? Generally, you're not supposed
to see the light source, but you know.
I'm interested, so I'll take it. Yeah, these are choices.
Like they did a lot of really cool transition shots, like with
the windmill and like things like that that like went with
the little paper windmills they made.
And so there's a lot that went into this that was just really,
really fun and awesome and made it a great adaptation.
And of course green Becky like, of course the acting was also
super on point. All her faves from Idol Factory
were back and doing doing their thing and like to see them grow
as actors from like gap to this was also really amazing to
watch. Like their range was fantastic
during this series. Like they were very, very happy
moments of like, really devastatingly sad moments, and
they just like executed everything super well.
I feel like the acting has significantly improved.
I mean not only OK, so to be fair freeing didn't wasn't able
to show a lot of emotion in gap. True.
She's like more repressed characters in both series.
Kind of. That's true.
Yeah, so she was able. Yeah.
I mean, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Sam did cry, but yeah, Sam was more neutral face.
Yeah. Where pin is kind of like
reserved, like protecting herself, but also just the way
that the organization. What are the words?
I'm sorry? The way that the hierarchy is
basically. Yeah, but you also just saw more
of her depth. Oh my God, but.
Especially Becky because her acting has become way more
natural as well because you can kind of tell it felt like she
was kind of nervous in Gap and I believe I heard that she was
still like learning Thai for it. So I think there.
Was just too. Much for her to think about
while filming and it just seems like she's able to have more fun
and not be as nervous and just go in and play.
Basically, yeah. And can we talk about how the
fact that the actors had to play like cuz like in the beginning
of the show, they're teenagers and then they had to range into
adulthood. So like it's already a big range
because the ages they had to play.
And like Speaking of Becky, her like childish faces that she
kept doing to be like this character is young were fucking
hilarious. Like so on point, but like
hilarious cuz I'm like, yeah, girl.
Like you're just like being like forever.
This is a child. Yeah, OK.
So I think in the reaction videos, I also said this.
I'm not a huge fan that they had them be the teens.
Well, like, like the children, teens, teens, yeah, the child.
I understand why they. Had child actors.
We'll say that because they had children.
Children. But like, Becky and Free were
teenagers. Yeah.
In a second. Oh, for sure.
For sure. That's a different thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, OK, so them having to play a lot younger than the
later, I understand why they had to do that because the whole
first book is that age. Group right?
That age range so they wouldn't have Free and Becky until what,
4 episodes in? Right.
Were you like in What's happening?
Yeah, and that would, first of all, that would piss off
everybody. Everybody, yeah.
But I have to say Becky did do a great job because going back and
watching it, you could tell she's a little more bouncy or
she's a lot more feisty. When she got adult, she's like
so feisty. I got.
Power over. Everybody but yeah and like.
Yeah, Becky nailed the Becky nailed the child stuff and it
was really, really funny. And but I do like credit to
freeing too, because pin goes on this journey from but being like
the innocent, quiet, ultimate introvert who's super reserved,
like you were saying to like outwardly expressing her
emotions and desire. So freeing got to like really
evolve pin throughout the show and like flex her acting muscles
just like as the individual character, while like yeah,
Becky had an in who's like this like off the rails troublemaker
child and then like transforms into this really mature adult.
So they almost like do like this backward kind of like inverse
evolution, where like one goes from being like way too open to
like more reserved as they mature.
And the other one is like so reserved to like being more
open. So it's really fun to see them
like kind of do that as each character and like Free and
Becky did an awesome job of like bringing them to life and like
really like showing us the evolution of these two
characters over the course of like years.
So like the show's fans years. So they had to do a lot of
evolving and as actors they did a really good job.
I gotta say for freeing, being able to differentiate between
the child, the teen and the adult is more difficult because
basically it was the shy, reserved, don't say anything.
So it was harder for her to make choices like Becky did with the
different facial expressions because that wasn't pin.
And then she had to take it from that to basically lusty,
jealousy. Oh.
My God, Which by the way, everyone, whatever happened to
Emma? Did Pin kill Emma?
Like, whatever happened to like, we never got a resolution of the
show. Oh.
My gosh. Pin pin took care of business.
So we never heard that, but that was selected off RIP Emma.
RIP Emma victim #1 of pins irrational jealousy.
OK, so Speaking of jealousy, like obviously free and Becky
Dale, their chemistry also sold the love story that was like the
really the center of this whole thing.
So like again, and they had more, it was a much different
range from like coming from gap because that's what we're most
familiar with free and we know they've been in other stuff to
like movies and stuff, but we haven't seen them yet.
But like coming from Gap, like just sticking with IO factory,
like they had again, they had to go from like the friends who
were children into like this years long like type of
relationship where they like basically knew each other as
children that were separated, then had to relearn who they are
as adults. So it's like it was a it was
different relationships that were just littered throughout
this show of just them. And so they did a really good
job of like really making each relationship as it kind of like
formed and kind of like broke apart and formed, like really
made it seem very real and authentic the way they played
them as their characters, as the characters are different ages.
So like just chef's kiss, well done.
Like nobody else could have played these characters like
truly like they owned it and like did an amazing, amazing
job. I want to go off of what you're
saying about authentic and saying like how the show is so
authentic. I mean, obviously we do not know
first hand anything about the culture.
We're learning as we go, but from what we see and know about
the show, it's very much educating about the culture and
the customs and the clothing. You we got to learn so much
through this show. Yeah, because unlike it's not
modern, it's a it took took place in the past like not the
Super far back past, but like 1940s, fifties, 60s, depending
on where you are in the story. So like it was a different
period of time for Thailand. And yeah, I agree.
They. And there was like, there's a
whole Twitter account that was dedicated to, like, pointing out
all, like, the cool traditional stuff, even, like, the cars were
like, of the time and like, yeah.
That's. Impressive.
It's always impressive when you can get a hold of like those
kinds of cars and like it's somebody's job to like track
down the right car of the right time, like and all that kind of
stuff. So they did an awesome job of
like taking that famous house that's in every like Chao Plenoy
novel, the the what we call the Bua Palace in all of our talks,
which in the show it's confusing because they it was the main
palace. Yeah, it's not.
It's just the, but it, it is the Bua Palace because it has the
Lotus pond like in real life. So in my brain it is the Bua
Palace because it means Lotus pond or Lotus Palace.
And so like they took that house that we've seen a million times,
like in in in Gap and everything else.
And like really like we're like, no, no, no, this is what it
would have looked like and felt like in this time period.
So like, yeah, like nailed it. I love watching all the cooking
lessons and like, the fun fact of like freeing was like the
best one of doing all like the like crafty tasks, like the
dumplings. Like Becky was like, I suck at
this. And like Free was really good at
it. And like, which is funny because
like, that's how the characters were.
So it's funny that like the actors kind of took to it.
Anyway, it was awesome. I just love that about it.
It was very fun. Like, period pieces can go awry
if there's not a great attention to detail.
So like, again, to the crew, to the cast, like good job of like
sticking to the time period for which the show took place.
Well done. I guess we can bring up now that
part of the reason why the culture and customs were so
accurate and portrayed in the show is a result from working
with the Thai government. Yes.
So the Thai everybody knows this at this point, I'm pretty sure.
But just in case, the Thai Ministry of Commerce signed a
memorandum of understanding with Idle Factory to promote Thai
goods and services internationally through the
production of the Loyal Pin. And basically the partnership
just aim to use the the Loyal Pins.
Oh my gosh, the Loyal Pins platform.
Yay, you said it. Thank you I'm having trouble
with words today hang in there to highlight the culture, attire
and tourism to boost Thailand's cultural export image so to
entice people to come and. As if we already weren't enticed
enough. Yeah, I know, right, but.
But also. I also learned because we always
said, oh, the budget, they had a bigger budget because they're
working with the government, this was not actually money.
So this was just an agreement to promote, like, Thailand's
culture through the show. That's cool.
I mean, they could have given them grants or money towards the
production. It's just not publicly released.
Yeah. So they could have helped with
location access. And all these that would make
sense. Or like, but yeah, it's not
directly like they donated money to this production.
It was more like we are in a agreement.
Also, it's not contractually obligated either.
I learned a lot about memorandums of understanding
when doing this. But through this whole
partnership thing, it just shows how willing the Thai government
is invested in the LGBTQ plus community because they're
willing to put their name on a woman love, woman, girl love
show. And that is huge, huge,
especially because they just legalized same sex marriage.
And this was showing them that they that that's the path that
they were heading. And it's just really great to
see that happen. Yeah, especially as Americans
entering the Dark Ages, like. Yeah, like this is.
Just thank you, seriously. Not the country.
You don't want the country. You just want us.
Please. Yeah, anyway.
Anyway, back to the acting. So I forgot, OK, wait, go back
to the acting of the free Becky stuff, because I forgot to
invention this like my favorite acting moment is the cloth
metaphor scene, the way Becky nailed that.
And that's the scene where like, basically she's in in is with
her family and pin and is like, yeah, no, I want to marry her.
And like, basically that whole scene.
And that was my one of my favorite moments in the books.
I was really looking forward to seeing it.
And she just nailed it. And just learning the behind the
scenes fact of that, the fact that there was a lot of dialogue
in that for Becky. And so like the other actors
were like super on point with their stuff because they don't
want Becky to have to reset and do this huge monologue all over
again. Because like the shots in, I've
noticed in a lot of time, media is very like they're really long
scenes. And so like it's a really long,
like it's almost like a play with the way that the actors
have to like do these big scenes, like in one kind of
take, like each take is very long.
So like this whole monologue, Becky would have to like start
from the beginning. And so because everybody was so
like nervous about like Becky having to do this multiple
times, they like nailed it on the first take because everybody
was so prepared for it, which is just really precious.
Like from like a behind the scenes kind of like aspect that
like the the whole cast was very like looking out for each other
and like the leads who had a lot of dialogue in certain scenes.
And yeah, just I love that scene in general.
But like Becky nailed like the fierce dedication of NN and like
all that stuff. And it was just so perfect that
moment and just everybody, everybody was on point.
But like Becky really nailed it. I'm appreciative of that.
It is insane how much of one take filming they do.
Yeah, it's, it's a lot like I'm a spoiler.
I'm working on it, a Pluto edit right now.
And like, I'm like, like putting together scenes to like a song.
And like in American media, like the scenes of like people like
they do so much like cut, like cutting where it's like you get
3 seconds and then they like edit and it's either like shot,
reverse shot or something where it's like the cuts are constant.
But like in the time media, like it's much, they really let them
act for like a longer period of time.
And it's just it was different making it 'cause I was like,
damn, I have more to work with like.
Yeah, it's yeah 'cause it's not directly cutting to the other
person. Yeah, I mean.
Exactly. Yes, there's more room to
remember. For there to be like, for them
to like express things like facially and stuff, it's not as
like quick. It's like they let the actors
like actually act it out more like a breed where they have
time to really like show you what they're feeling.
And I really appreciate that. And like this show did it too
for sure 'cause there's a. Lot they also have more shots
that are wider, so they're both in the frame.
So in American media it's very the over the shoulder shot is
like the most common. So you're only getting 1 actor
in the frame at a time and the wide both person in the scene is
more establishing the overall scene.
So that creates basically when you're doing edits, an issue
where you don't have a reaction to the other person or you don't
have the person actually staying with it.
And it's, it's a little difficult, but yeah, it is.
It's quite interesting to see the differences between American
media and Thailand, which I mean is a whole different
conversation itself. It's yeah, like, just like the
directing style is different and just like the way they get let
let the actors really act things out.
That's different. And I really appreciate it.
I think it does help, especially in a period piece.
It definitely makes sense to like because like the emotions
usually in period pieces are heavier or like much like
there's a lot more highs and lows and like the loyal pin
definitely had those moments and they like really let the actors
like show you the pain, you know, pain, pain.
The loyal pain. The loyal pain for sure.
I this isn't comparing to the books, but I just want to say
that they did a great job. They did a great job because
it's fairly accurate to the books except the necessary
adjustments needed for the logistics of filming and actor
availability and to lengthen the story like they did pretty well
with. I think this is a really great
adaptation of it. Yeah, I agree, with the
exception of the last episode because they definitely changed
things just to create drama. That drove me crazy and I was
like. Just like you don't talk about.
I mean, it's not the same as the last episode of Killing Eve.
But. Just like you don't, we're not
going to talk. About that, we're not going to
talk. About that, we're not going to
be hardly ranted. About that.
One ranted about that reaction. We're here to talk about what we
liked about the show. But yeah, with the exception of
like the the finale, like yeah, it is.
There's like a few things, but obviously it's also personal
taste. Totally.
I wanted to see Theor did it. I wanted to see the brother and
the cousin storyline. Yeah, I'm glad they cut that
out. That was unnecessary.
But yeah, it would have been funny.
I'd like more weirdly. They definitely took a wholesome
route with certain things and it felt very out of factory,
honestly. They it was definitely them
putting their spin on this, on this story and it's not as a bad
thing. It's just like, you know, it, it
felt like gap in certain the the changes they made with gap the
series or scap the novel. Like they definitely have their
own like direction when it comes.
Like vision is a better word vision for like their stories or
their adaptations, which totally fine.
Like that's that's what adapting stuff is.
But yeah, and and they paced it really well, especially for a
story that had so many time jumps in it, like it didn't feel
stagnant in any pieces and didn't feel rushed in any areas.
I think they took their time and used it wisely for like like
they planned out the timeline really well of like this story
from starting at I think it was like 1314 to like ending like
years, you know, many years later.
Like they did a good job spacing it out for like the amount of
episodes they had and they got like more episodes for any other
like Thai girl up show that we've seen.
So like again, another victory to idol factor who was able to
like not only like up the production value of everything,
but they also like increased the number of episodes.
Like that was the confidence they had on this project and
like it definitely paid off. Like it was wildly popular and
did a fantastic job. I'd be curious what the merge
sales were like to be quite honest, especially for like.
How many people bought the Bunny if you have.
The Bunny. Can you let us know?
I want to know who out there bought the Sasha Bunny because
like that thing was so iconic. I love that they turned that
into merge. That was my favorite aspect of
the show because like, that's so iconic.
Like the Bunny, like the Bunny that was there, the Bunny that
activates, like, yeah, I get your entire money.
This entire timeline. I love it.
I love that that was. Virtuous, I thank you.
Unfortunately I can't remember who exactly who it was, but I
don't know if you saw the comment but they said I'm
impressed. That pins, it's pins, right?
Childhood. Yeah, money looks brand new
after. Oh yeah, after.
Many years, that's how. Good pin takes care of stuff,
Duh. I mean, that is also great
plausibility for this because pin wood pin.
I mean, the Bunny had its own bed, right?
No, like the end, it had its own like chair or something that it
was sitting in when when they set up the like the kidnapping,
which we have. So we have our own opinions
about that this people disagree with us.
But like the kidnapping, that was definitely a change when she
gets into the the shrine basically before and ends like
by the way, we can live together now.
Like Sasha Buddy is part of that whole like spectacle that she's
like looking through like all the memories.
And it's like sitting on a throne like this plush chair
that's like designed for this tiny doll, which is what a
detail like, I love it so much. Yeah.
OK. So now we have to give a moment
to recognize with the these child actors, OK, because they
did a phenomenal job. Yeah, yeah.
Especially, especially. Little pin.
Oh my God, we had to play the dead parent scene like Oh my
God. Yeah.
First of all, we'll start with that one because that was, I
don't know if we got that like much of A description in the
book for that, but I was really surprised when we got that scene
and just hearing her like scream and cry for her parent like
that's. Oh my God.
And it wasn't like a short.
It wasn't a short flashback. Like she had like several
minutes where this child actor is like showing you the pain and
despair of a child losing their parent and like over like like
for like a minute at least this child was like in agony.
So like what a scene for a young actor to have to do.
And it was really good. Like did a great job of like, Oh
my God, poor kid. But I'm I'm concerned about the
actor. I hope they're OK.
I hope. This was fun for them.
Right. No, totally.
But seriously, she she had to cry so much in her scenes.
She's like I am. Cried a lot.
I'm freeing. They cried a lot.
Black. She needed to ask Becky more
because Becky had all the crying and gap.
Yeah, it is true. Becky usually has more of the
crying so it's just like the opposite in this show and
trialed actor. But then with little an in too,
the mannerisms of both of these kids matching the matching free
and Becky it it was perfect because you could you see, like
I love that because you could see, OK, they're children and
then they grow up. I mean, that's why I'm having a
little trouble with the teens and the adults, because it's the
same person and they look the same.
Because, you know, you can only do so much with.
Hair. Anyway, the the mannerisms when
you first see little Annin and Tina Nin, they they're the same,
The same personality, the same facial expressions.
It's adorable. And of course, Pin's just.
Crying. Pin's just crying.
Pin's just crying, but they kick it off consistency.
But yeah, like, again, that's like to your point, that's the
challenge of like bringing to life the character that's more
internal versus the external character.
But there's still, you know, the continuity is there for from
child actor to free Becky and free Becky is the teen.
Edition The Last Child did a great job as well.
Oh. Yeah, yeah, the little piece.
Yeah, I forget the name. It's similar to an in.
It is well the play on an in because like, shoot, yeah, the
brother wanted a baby an in. But they all did so well.
They were so natural too. Yes, which is not really like
not always the case for children, child actors, because
they were so professional. I love.
Yeah, they did a great job. They deserve to be in those
opening credits. Yeah, they do.
They earn their. However, the last child did not
make it to the opening credits. Well, I don't think.
I don't know. I don't know.
All right. Anything else about the
children? No, that is all for the.
Children, I love you. Children, you you, all of you
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Have you been trying? It's a great place to start.
All right, Speaking of a great
place to start, I don't know why this took us so long, but
lockdown playing prick. Oh.
My gosh was so perfect. If anything there is nothing
more perfect than that. Like I remember reading the book
and being like and knowing that Free and Becky were going to be
the leads and being like God lock em would be perfect as
prick. Literally reading prick.
I was like she would be absolutely perfect.
I would destroy this character and like embody it and she did
and she is prick. I just want to say theor's not
overstating that either. Like I didn't.
Know what the loyal pin was yet and then I was like learning
about it and then I read the books for our episodes so Theora
immediately told me that there's someone in mind that she wants
her prick and I was like oh I know who prick is and then as
soon as I told Theora she was freaking out so she she always
had look them in mind for. She's perfect.
She's fucking perfect as a prick.
Like the ultimate Comic Relief. The like prick is so funny, so
neat. Victim is not afraid to go for
it. Yeah, I know.
They don't care about what people think.
Just yeah, committed. Committed.
So committed to every single thing she does that it is
amazing because I don't see Jim when I look at prick it's.
Yeah, no, it's prick is prick. Yeah, exactly.
She just like, is like, like her comedy is what a comedian is so
funny. The facial expression.
Oh my God, it's somebody or line delivery, like body language,
like everything. It's just so perfect.
Like there's literally literally nobody else that could have
played Brick. Like nobody.
It was always her. She is brick.
She is prick, she is our prick and will forever be our prick.
We are always be loyal pricks. I I want to keep talking about
her because I just love. Her.
I love her so much. Do you have a favorite prick
moment though? Because I have one.
That's my well. I'm my favorite.
They're all great. Prick stealing food.
I think the rivalry between Prick and Pia in the beginning
was quite funny. That was funny.
That was a great addition now
that we look back. I will say, OK, so my favorite
moment, 'cause I wasn't expecting this.
It was like the first big prick moment was the ghost scene in
the beginning. Oh yeah, I was about to just.
Bring that up the ghost scene. It was so perfect.
It's like the OK, it's in. Like I forgot it's the first
episode or second episode. It's the first episode.
It was the first episode, OK. I just couldn't remember.
It was because it's like teenage and then teenage prick, just
there was if you ever needed a scene to encapsulate their
friendship, it's that scene where like Pin is just walking
and then these morons come over and like trying to scare people
on the property and they're dressed up like ghosts and shit.
And then Oh my God, it's so funny.
Like they're ridiculous. So that was probably one of my
favorite prick moments because I wasn't expecting it and it's the
perfect encapsulation of that friendship.
And but my favorite like prick and pin moment is the the scene
where pin is like fuck this ring and she throws it outside the
window and Prince like damn it, like she's like you can sell
that shit. Like it's so prick.
It's not even funny. And the way I love them is just
like talking to herself and she's like, I'll just go get it
later. And I was like, what are you
saying? And she's like, what?
Nothing. What?
Every scene that she's in is amazing.
It's. Really hard to pick.
It's just the way she reacts to things.
It's not even. She doesn't have to have any
dialogue. The.
Reactions make it. Perfect.
There was. I did an editing class and my
editing teacher said when in doubt, cut to this actor who had
a great reaction because we had to edit a feature length film.
When in doubt, you cut to prick because she's always going to
give you a great reaction. Yeah.
Isn't that the thing that like a lot of acting, is reacting?
Yeah. And it is because it's so easy
to get in your head and be like, Oh, my next line is this.
And then you just look stone faced.
So it's it's also what's conveying the story and the
feelings of your character because you can't say
everything. Yeah, just prick.
If we can give you an award, ma'am and.
When I got 1. I would prick.
In the car telling off the brother.
Well, her, her audacity matches and ends audacity.
So funny. I love her.
Unfortunately, we literally could have a whole podcast just
about locked up. But we won't, we won't.
We will move on to our next point.
She's perfect. That was perfect.
But you know, my MVP for the show is Pia, though, because I
didn't know what to think. About at the.
Beginning she's my MVP because I was just like or rookie of the
year because I didn't see this coming and I was just like, you
know what, Pia? By the end I was like, you
deserve to be in the show. You would prefer really funny
like this was like Sophia in the novel is mentioned, but like the
show really like expanded on this character and like gave the
character more lines and things like and like made the character
a character and so like great choice.
And it was really funny to have like multiple servants that were
like ride or die for like this love story and just were
hilarious inserts into the show like they did a great job.
I did enjoy Prick. Something else like?
Yeah, I gave pricks more of a like a buddy, like a buddy cop
situation between those two. Started out as like what like
enemies to best friends like that was their arc which like
they have arc like I didn't expect that like it was great.
Yeah, so I'm like, it gives more of the character depth to prick.
Exactly. It's just kind of like the right
hand. The Sidekick.
In the book, but we got to see more and really flush out prick
in the show and it's just really cool to see.
And yeah, if you go and watch our reaction videos, we were not
happy if he was there. No, we thought prick would get
overshadowed but. No, but seeing them work
together and playoff each other it was.
It was so fun. Great, a great pair.
That was a really good pairing. That was really funny.
I think it was the scene when they're packing up and they're
like both riffing off each other.
It was, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great.
I was like, please, more of this because this is amazing and
really, really entertaining. Just these two.
I'm not a fan of jealousy so I liked it more when they were
playfully pissing each other off and like messing with each
other. When once they got into that
phase of their relationship I think I definitely became more
of a fan of Pia but also the two of these.
Pin and Nin needed more people in their corner and just having
the two of them. Totally crazy.
Also the oh you know what great award goes to for doing the bare
minimum to prick for getting the food and giving one to PIA when?
Oh yeah, that was really cute and I wasn't expecting that.
That's when you know Pia's really on the team is 1.
Yeah, that's the first moment, actually.
Yeah, because she was upset that Pia was going on the vacation on
to the aisle. Lesbos huahen and that was I
think the accepted Oh my gosh OK, there's so much in this
episode when. I know they.
They they buried prick in. The Oh my God, I forgot about
that. OK, but also in the Isle of
Lesbos when like Anan and Pan are like making out and Pia is
like can see them and it's like ladies like.
And it's like, can you stop doing this?
People are watching you and they're like, ha ha, Pia.
And it's like, girl, like if you're going to help her into
your corner, listen to her and she's telling you.
She's like, so what's coming? I don't care.
It's like, why am I here? Right.
That was also really funny. And it's like ladies.
Yeah, I understand this is the Isle of Lesbos, but this is the
1950s. That might have been one of the
best episodes, actually. That was because it was
consistent. That was from the beginning to
the of great, great moments. Yeah, we'll get.
Into one of my favorite moments ever is from that episode
there's a lot of good ones I'll get into that in a second, but I
want to go back to the 1950s. So other thing that I really
love about the loyal pen, the story and the series is that
like this is at its core, it's a love story between two women in
the 1950s where they have a happy ending.
Like they get to live in the end, they get to have a married
life. It's unofficial, but it's
married with their adopted daughter.
We never get this in like period pieces or even in modern stories
half the time. Like I love this about the oil
pit. Like it really delivered from
beginning to end for the Sapphic people.
And like, thank you for giving us this is what a beautiful
story. Like, you know.
Yeah, definitely. No, I love that we got to see
the future, which is a constant between the book and the show.
Just seeing how they basically adopt their niece, it's just,
it's adorable. It's such a cute little family.
It is I will say though, in the book, not to not to do a
comparison. I was hoping they would put this
in there. But in the book, like the the
little girl refers to pin as mom, like she actually calls
them like mom and stuff and like mom and dad.
So like it really was like they were married with this adopted
child is basically how it ends and like.
That child wakes up, sneaks out and goes to there.
And goes to see mom, Mama pin. Like, yeah, like, like literally
thinks of them as like her parents.
So like, again, to have this story as a period piece with
that ending, like is something I never is one of the reasons I
love the story because I never saw that coming and was like,
wow, really? This is how it's ending.
Like, like it's incredible. Like what a story like thank
you, Mama and idol factory. OK, And then and before we get
into favorite scenes, I just want to shout out to whoever
came up with the really clever transitions between scenes like
and the symbolism behind some of these transitions.
I'm not sure if this is the screenwriter or if this was like
a directing choice. But like the way they kept using
the pinwheel, like the little blue pinwheel as like a scene
transition. And they would use like the
movement or lack of movement of the pinwheel to like give you a
visual indicator of like and then in pins relationship.
And it was consistent throughout the series because like the
pinwheel was like this big moment when they were kids and
like they carried it through. So whoever's choice that was
like brilliant. And it would just it added more
to the show. Like it was a great choice.
I love I love that they were very clever with how they like
again, told the story in a visual adaptation.
Like that's one of the things that I really like that they
were just like, Hey, let's give you this like, because otherwise
you're just like, what is this transition?
But it like it meant something. So it was really clever and I
like that a lot. It was there.
I mean story wise, they really were killing it.
They, I don't know if they worked on it longer, if it was
just more seasoned people who whatever, whatever the case was
that up the scale of this production, they did a great
job. Yeah, it was.
It was excellent. All right.
And Speaking of excellent, so favorite scenes, do you have a
favorite scene? Do you want me to start a
favorite scene? I have a couple of favorite
scenes that I want to talk about.
Yes, I feel like we've kind of talked about mine going like.
What was it? The I don't actually know, I
just like all the prick ones or the best but that's that's the
issue. That was my favorite scene.
But I always remember one of the ones that you say but the tennis
scene. But I think one of my favorite
parts of the show was the expansion of the pad and in
story. Oh my God, yes, that was
multiple scenes. But yeah, I was really happy to
put that in there because again, they it's really easy to look at
characters and be like, wow, what a villain.
But then it's like, OK, but why is Auntie Pad the way that she
is? Why does she make these
decisions? Why is she so overproductive?
Like, and that really added a lot to this character that like,
again, you're not focused on her because the story is really
about Pin and an in, but it's like she's impacting Pin's life.
And so I'm glad they gave her the opportunity to be like, This
is why her past is like the way that it is.
This is why she's acting this way towards Pin.
And they're more similar than you think.
And also like it gives you a glimpse of like, again, period
piece. So we're going back in time
further to be like, OK, like if in in in pin story was in
Auntie, like when Auntie Pad was a kid in that time period, how
would have this played out? You know, like it made me think
along those lines too. Like it would have been harder
for them to do what they did and what they already were doing was
really difficult, so. I believe it was only a bonus
chapter in the book. Yeah, so.
This is. Not yeah, yeah.
But it's like hinted at a bunch of times and you just like,
you're like, why is she playing with this ring?
Like they keep Mama keeps writing it, so it must be
important. And then like Mama's like,
here's why. So like Idle factor is like, OK,
cool. And they just like put it in the
show to like make it linear. Yeah, I'm just saying like they
didn't have to do that and it just, I'm really glad that they
did. They made it less sad though,
and I. They did just go to end it.
No, it was, it was a great segue.
We you needed you needed to see more of Pad's story to be able
to understand why she is being like at some places.
It is still kind of hard to understand because she did feel
the same way as Pin, but she also knows the repercussions of
it too. There's a lot going on and it
just gives you more insight into what she's thinking.
And it made it gayer. So thanks, Idol Fact yes, I knew
you would do it. I knew you would do it.
I didn't doubt you for a second to be like more gay stuff.
Yes, absolutely. Here we go.
Theora had all the faith. All the faith in them.
OK, so my I have a couple of favorite scenes.
I'll go chronologically. So when they were children.
I really love the LOI Krathong. If I'm saying that wrong, I
apologize. The festival, which is early on
in the series and 1st of so first of all, the lead up to the
festival involves an amazing prick moment where pin is like
in the garden, diligently making like it's called Krathin for
herd. And then like the what they put
in the in the water to like as the part of the ceremony to
float. Meanwhile, like so pin is like
the diligent 1 putting this thing together that they're
going to use in the festival meanwhile, and then is playing
like army soldiers with prick. And the scene is just hilarious
because they're just like running in and out of windows,
like and like the way they're like playing with each other and
like playing soldier is so funny, like these ridiculous
humans. And like again, the acting was
hilarious in the scene. The game with the little things
that they were shooting off. Right.
Yeah, off of the like. Yeah.
And I don't think came back later with the with the niece,
they did it. Yeah, it's just like the game
that's like, yeah, it's so fucking funny.
But like, again, the whole thing, the whole scene between
and and and Prick is just like it encapsulates again the beauty
of their relationship and how like they really were friends at
the end of the day. And yeah.
And so to continue with this, like this is all taking place
like this army soldier game and like the festival is taking
place right before and then goes abroad.
So there's like this lingering sadness happening because like,
and then it's going to leave Prick and Pin.
And so there's that kind of brewing in the background.
So when Pin and then basically they have to like sneak out of
the palace to go participate in the festival in like the greater
city area and pin who like never breaks a rule, like basically is
breaking rules to go do this. And she's just so excited to
like sneak out and attend with. And in that she's like for the
beginning of the festival, she's very like animated and like
glowing and like alive, which is like, and Nin's impact on Pin.
Like she, she brings pin to life, which is really, really
sweet. And Pin is doing this thing as a
child and she doesn't realize that like by rebelling and like
going to this festival, she was like, it's one of the first time
she gives into like her own desires and not like what her
aunt tells her to want. So it's a very liberating moment
for Pin that like and then gives her.
So like, again, like at a young age, they still have this like
complementarily impact on each other.
And it's like really was well done in this scene where they're
like in the festival. But unfortunately, like as they
get deeper into the festival, Pin thinks she sees one of
Auntie Pad's friends. So then they have to like get
out of there and like she starts panicking.
So and then takes control of the situation and like diverts them
to like get this more secluded area because like and then
always has this instinct to like protect pin, like and then know
she's privileged, but like uses the privilege to protect pin a
lot of the time, which is something that I do appreciate
about her. So then then we get to like my
favorite scene where they're like in the secluded kind of
area by a lake and it's just the two of them on this little dock.
And like Pin is pretty insecure now because she feels like she
ruined the festival for Anin because she's like, now we're in
this like, you know, lesser body of water.
Like we were going to go to like the big river and like make the
big like offering. But Anin assists.
Anin says, like, well, as long as I'm with you, any place is
good for me. So it's like, again, the
cuteness already, like the dedication that's already there
as children is so, so cute, so, so cute.
And I love it. And from the very beginning,
from the beginning. And again, again, this is on the
cost of like, and then leaving. So it's like even more
significant that they're having this like private moment
together rather than like being in a big crowd.
And so in this conversation and then admits that like she wants
to cherish every moment with Pin before she leaves.
And then and then starts getting teary eyed, like she's about to
cry. And like, this is the part part
of the scene that I really, really love because this is one
of the first times that Pin witnesses how much she means to
Anin because like, yeah, they've been friends.
But like, Anin is set up in the story as the girl that has
everything. And she's the girl that's always
smiling. She's the girl that's never sad.
So like for Pin to like know that and then see and then
getting sad over her is like huge.
Like that I think is a as a like a shifting moment and just
depicted by like 1 character getting really sad.
So I think it's really important that Pin got a glimpse of this
at a young age to like it really sets up their entire
relationship just from this little scene that they're having
on the dock. And this is also the moment
where and then it's like, I will write to you every day, I
promise. And like does for years.
Does not break that promise, never breaks the promise ever.
And then? When she's about to come home
and surprise. Yeah, what?
She lied. Yeah.
It was pissed, which was funny. But then we get like one of my
favorite shots in the entire series is when they go to like
place the Krathong in the water and like they both lean over the
dock and you get like the reflection of them from the lake
and like it's just visually beautiful.
The two of them. They're doing it together.
Like it's almost like they're like feel like a promise to each
other at this moment. And it's just it's visually
stunning and the acting was really well done.
And it's like them as kids too. So kudos to everybody.
Like I love this moment. I thought it was really well
done and like sequentially and all the lead up and it was just
I love this and with the. Reflection in the water.
It's kind of like they're capturing a moment in time,
yeah. Like it's like taking a photo in
a way. And like this is such a core
moment for their relationship as well.
Yeah, I love everything about that.
It's so just beautiful. It's so beautiful, I would lose
this. Festival.
I love water reflection shots. Those are some of my favorite,
and this one was just on on point and the other scene I want
to highlight from the show that was so well done is back to the
Isle of Lesbos. So one of the scenes that I love
from the Isle of Lesbos was the proposal on the beach.
First of all, this was so extra and I just love it.
Everything about it was but also like and Nin did does all of it.
She's the one that's she's the she's the one doing the
proposing and it pin is just kind of showing up.
I like getting showered on with Anin's love everything about is
so sweet and beautiful, but like it's so extra and it's like Anin
the Princess is basically treating pin like the Princess
and it's what she deserves. So I love that and like the
horseback, like everything about it's so extra, but I love the
actual proposal when like like they do horseback riding to get
to the location and then she yeah, yeah, webcam thumbs up for
this. And then Anin leads her to the
Sasha Bunny Sandcastle is what's holding the again, the iconic
doll. OK, the way it's like not only
merch the Sasha Bunny was what held the ring.
So like it was like the wing thing for like Anin to do the
proposal and she's got like, it's got like a heart of like
shells. And then on the Bunny, it's got
the A&P like with a heart like it's so extra.
It's like, and then when what, how early did this girl get up
to like settle their shit up and be like, OK, high tide comes at
this time because like, imagine like she brings her over here
and like the waves in a way, like this could have been a
disaster. Like there was so much planning
that went into this is my point. It's so extra and cute and I
just. This was so funny.
I love this. Speaking of planning, my
question is who in the production team built the Bunny
out of sand? Seriously, who built beach Sacha
Bunny that looks like a. Lot of work.
And to your point, yeah, I think it was pretty far away from the
water, but it had to have been pretty.
It's still close because it has to be a little wet unless they
because those sand around it looks the same.
I mean, she had to like really plan this out and be like, OK,
this is going to I had to put this in a place where the tide's
not going to wash it away and like get all these well, I
should probably have help with prick, I assume at Pia who like
gather all the seashells. There is so much that went into
this. And like, remember, she wasn't
planning on doing this at Hua Hin.
She just got pissed off about Kua and was like, well, I got to
stop him from like sniffing around pin.
So like I'm going to do this earlier than I This is the spur
of the moment like detailed proposal.
So like, again, the woman had mad game is all I'm saying.
Mad game. I could see her sending Prick
and Pia together having to do this and then they have to work
together to do this. And it was like, I forget if
it's right, if it's before or after Prick being buried in the
sand, but if it was after that, like Prick would just be like.
No more sand for me. Well, that but also like being
annoyed at PIA the whole time too.
So it's like you're having kind of like that scene at the, I
think it was at the a party and like Pia was like doing things
well and prick was kind of jealous or annoyed or trying to
compete with her. I feel like that that was it.
Who can find the most shells in a minute?
Oh my God. Where's the deleted scenes of
them helping with the proposal, which I love.
OK, wait, so back to the proposal.
So then like, OK, so then Pin gets her Sasha Bunny with the
ring. And then I love when Pin says
this moment is like a dream, a good dream.
Like it's just to clarify, she's like, I have a lot of bad buns.
This is a good dream. OK, poor pit.
Like again, the trauma that is pin in her life, which we don't
have time to get into, but like, OK, but I love that line because
basically this is like a this is like a fairy tale situation that
like an in pulls out of nowhere and like, yeah, like and what I
live in at this moment on the beach because like, again, it's
just them. It's them and a horse who's not
paying attention get to the horse in a second.
But like this is like a moment of like what their lives could
be like without all those outside influences because like,
again, the the reason they're here is because of an outside
influence, because Kuo was making and in feel insecure and
stuff. But like this is what their
lives could literally be like. It would just be this beautiful,
sweet, happy life where they can just be themselves.
And like, it's so pure and wholesome and, and adorable.
And my absolute favorite part is when they start making out and
the horse in the background gets bored and starts wandering away
because like, it's a fucking horse on the ocean.
And it's like, what am I supposed to do here?
Like tie it down? Just let the horse go?
Doesn't the horse start? Walking into the ocean too.
Yeah, like the horse just start fucking off like halfway through
this. It's like I can't handle this.
I'm walking into the ocean. Goodbye.
Yeah, like, and it didn't plan for the horse and she played for
everything else, but yeah, what? It's such a it's beautiful.
And like, again, they shot this daytime at the beach and like
the sound was on point. Like, again, back to the
production being absolute perfection.
There's a million things that can go wrong with shooting on a
beach and they did an amazing job and just it was this was
such a fairy tale moment. You know, if like queer Disney
exists, it would be this scene of like everything about this.
They had the drone shot of them on the horse like it was so
beautiful. Everything about this was
stunning, beautiful, and it like again, perfectly encapsulated
this moment, which would like a dream, a good dream.
It really felt like that, like watching it and just the
extraness of the Bunny proposal was so cute.
It's adorable. I just so extra.
I love it. It's amazing.
And then I do like that we get
the parallel like proposal scene from Penn where it's like
they're at a Chow Yuengfo's place and they're all in like
the traditional garb and like this is what anti pad catches
them or whatever. But like they had their own
private moment that was also really beautiful too, like pens.
This one was just really extra and just fairy doll like that
really. It's and then what do you
expect? Exactly.
I guess the last scene that I'll bring up is again, another prick
scene when Prick is hiding the package from PIN because Pin
asked if there's a letter, not a package.
And it's just hilarious. And I love seeing the
relationship shift because PIN Prick has to be there for Pin
now. So seeing their dynamic with a
NIN removed, it's just it was really cool to see.
Yeah, that's what made the ring scene later really funny where
she's the confidant and like and is like fuck this ring from Kua
and she's like, you could have sold that.
What the hell? I think their relationship was
also really. OK.
Wait a minute, I'm sorry there's a million prick scenes that are
funny. But Speaking of pin and prick,
the kiss scene where Prick had to deliver the kiss also
executed to perfection. Yes.
That and like the whole kissing lesson, A plus.
Oh my God, the kissing lesson. That was absurd, but so funny.
There's there's a lot. There is a lot.
There's a lot. It was just.
Speaking of a lot. Yeah, so that was a lot, but
that's what we liked about we. Again, we can go on and on about
the loyal pin, but we want to give our listeners the time to
shine about what they thought about the loyal pin.
So we did pose the question on all of our socials and
everywhere to be like, why did you like the loyal pin?
Tell us and let us know. So we've come to that.
So we'll start with Patriotic. And they were super excited
about the loyal Pin. So EP says #1 Free and Becky
Magic. Yes #2 period pieces is one of
my top genres. And as we said, they nailed it
#3 learn more about Thailand, cuisine, history, customs,
holidays. Seriously makes me want to
travel there soon. That influence and Thai soft
power has got soft power. They got the heart.
Yeah. Yeah.
Thailand is trying to change words and minds.
OK. And then specifically about the
story #4 good communication skills from both NN and PIN is
too rare in the girl love world. Why do you think we love planks
so much? Like we went on and on about
Blank because they communicate and it was so novel to us.
So like, yeah, dude, they talk. And it was great.
And #5 which I went to Frank Tire, but I get it.
Prick play by now. Yes, yes, prick play by now.
Absolute perfection. Stop coming out to E PS rankings
still. All of your points are super
valid and you're not just I'm messing with you, but like,
yeah, literally all of that. OK.
You cut out at the end there. I said love it, love it.
That's it. OK, the next one is from AMIX
New Monzone under score Molsey, thank you for being a big gay
Ride or die member. They said this might be just a
little thing, but I love that no matter what, you could always
tell that pin in an in loves each other the most.
Well, unless you're pin. Cuz Pin's always jealous, yeah?
Yeah, Yeah, that's right. Thank you.
It's.
The jealousy. The last part is no one else was
in the running emotionally for them and that yes that is
definitely true. Pin didn't know that a nin know.
Pin was insecure. So like, you know what happens
sometimes people are insecure, you know?
I also mean like Pin didn't even know that a nin.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No Pin.
Pin is. But Pin's irrational.
Pin's irrational jealousy was entertaining again.
What happened to Emma? We'll never know.
If you have any theories about what happened to Emma, let us
know. It is never addressed.
OK Cassie Mirror, let's get into this.
So number, there is three points here.
So #1 it is the most beautifully filmed show.
Check. Yes, with set design that rivals
most TV productions, not just from Thailand.
Yes, this is a beautifully well done TV show.
Totally agree, the acting is for the most part superb.
I was sure that Freedom Becky could deliver.
The real surprise are the vast number of supporting characters
of course. Loch Ness Prick Charm as Pat
Home as Prince and then and then, but the real study for me
was sunjet as lady wing foot yes, whom I previously only
known for my marvelous dream is you same, and those two roles
were like night and day. She she made what was supposed
to be a rival to lady pin thoroughly enjoyable and
reliable yes, let's talk about that character for a second.
That character had a whole arc that was like a redemption arc
that was wild. Like again, the side characters
got to breathe in the show, which like I didn't see that
was. 16 episodes instead of. Yeah, it's seriously the nature
of having more time to let your side characters be actual 3
dimensional characters. Like first, yeah, yeah, she she
went on a journey and like, was freed from her, like horrible
male love interest. Like I forget the man's the
actor's name Kirk, but like please.
Like why is he always the villain?
Be happy to be sure he's Kirk to us.
He's Kirk from Gap, I forget his actual name.
I apologize Sir, but like, you're always the man meddling
with the women. Like that was his character in
my marvelous dream in you. Also, he's always thinking
worse. In this show, though, he was
gross. In this show, his character is
awful. Which means he's amazing, but.
Yes. I just feel bad that these are
the characters. Literally let him be happy.
May you be happy in your next production, Sir.
We hope so. But yeah, that's a really good
point. Like, yeah, the the characters
were all really excellent and really fleshed out, which was
great. And #3 the setting in 1950s
Thailand giving gay gay Anna and the King vibes.
Oh yeah, definitely did. Which is a play and movies and
promoting Thai culture and customs.
I was low key tempted to visit Thailand myself.
I'm high key tempted. I'll say that those who know how
much I those who know how much I despise heat and humidity, not
to mention long distance air travel, understand how big a
feat that is. Again, way to go, Thai
government. See, you're already people are
like tourism. Yes, even though your
environment sounds like my worst nightmare because, yeah, I mean,
no shade to tie light. As somebody who lives in
Florida, which is tropical and hot and humid, like it's not
nice all the time, but like, yeah, dude, you made me want to
go there. OK so Michelle G says it is a
show with some trauma but it's not the point of the show.
Some the point is they love each other and they get there happily
ever after. I love a show with a great
ending and that I don't have to skip too much angst on the
rewatch. Yeah, that's so valid.
You're right, the trauma is not the point, which is also.
Except when they try to traumatize the character more.
But. Yeah, and accept some changes
that were designed to traumatize people.
But anyway, like overall though, it's not the point and I I agree
with that. All right, Kathleen.
I loved it because it was the best made girl I've ever watched
in terms of production and cinematography, acting,
etcetera. Yes, it's a great show even
without comparing it to only grow UPS.
Yeah, overall it's a very solid show.
Like we totally agree. Also love that for once there
was no toxicity. Also, yes, their relationship
was well paced. Enough time was spent on it to
be able to understand both the characters motives.
Yeah, absolutely, totally agree with that.
Again, like it could be the power of having six, you know,
16 episodes versus like 6 or 8. Like some shows like struggled
to tell their stories, understandably so, but I feel
like they gave, they did like a good job of like giving point of
view to like an in and pin in the show so that you you did
understand like where they were both coming from, like when they
were or when they weren't really on the same page sometimes so.
They really do that with all the characters though, totally in
some way, except except the absent father.
Yeah, he was like the McGovern a little bit, which is like he's a
plot device more than a person. So hey, I agree with that.
And also like middle brother, Oh yeah, no story.
He had no personality. But like, he in the book, like
he doesn't have a lot of a role as the oldest brother.
Like Prince Annan had more of a role.
But like, yeah, they were like there.
But everybody else had like adequate screen time for you to
like understand their motivations, like Kathleen was
saying. Yeah, Reina W says.
I love the loyal pin because I got to see a love story that
sprawled years. I love learning some Thai
traditions with each episode. I was taken about great the
storytelling was It wasn't just about lines being spoken, but
all how certain scenes were directed.
And the costumes also equally floored with how great Freene
and Becky's performances were. They really immersed themselves
in these roles. That's true. 100 freaking
percent. Yeah, so good.
All right, thank you, Patreon. Now we're going to shoot on over
to YouTube. We have one comment there.
So this is ADD 8078. Obsessed with this show.
Exclamation point, the cinematography, acting, dialogue
and music. Oh yeah, the music.
Yeah, I forgot about that. Earlier.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The jazz, Jazz, the jazz.
Is a. Choice just all appreciate the
jazz that was the choice. I'm traumatized by jazz music
now because of I'm like, when's it going to get sexy?
Thanks, Lil. Then yeah, music thanks you too.
All right, to continue with this comment, I love the 1950s
setting, but the best part is the romance between NN and Pin
Freen and Becky absolutely nailed playing a couple that's
madly in love but still healthy and commutative.
Yes, we actually get to see them just vibe and be in love more
than most girl love couples. Their dynamic is so fun and
their personalities are super distinct.
And NN is my fave, maybe one of my favorite characters ever.
Yes, maybe we all find an NNN in our lives.
That speech she gives comparing her love for Pin to the gold and
silver thread fabric was iconic. Yes, it was.
And when Pin tells Annin's dad that even though it didn't seem
strong, she's scared and doesn't want to leave her family, it
shows how deeply Pin knows her and how she's willing to fight
for her too. There are too many same great
scenes to count. Yes to all of that.
Oh yeah, Pin standing up to the dad.
Wow. Like again, for Pin to even like
think to do that was like young Penn would never even think that
thought. So like for older Penn to get
into that scenario and like go through with it was humongous.
She wouldn't even say that to Pat.
That's. What I mean, like, I don't, I
think Penn is the type of person who, like, if she had that
thought, would chastise herself for having the thought, let
alone doing it. So like, yeah, that was a huge
scene. Over on Twitter, Zebby 2334 says
I loved how they allowed Anin and pin to blossom and grow into
a healthy relationship where they actually communicated work
through problems without unwarranted drama and toxicity.
Except jealousy. Freen and Becky's chemistry,
connection and trust in each other shows through in the
performances. And I should say that I added
the except jealousy part. Which isn't toxic and like it
wasn't toxic the way they did it.
It was like Pin had a feeling and was feeling the feeling and
being irrational because of the feeling.
But yeah, they didn't do toxic shit to each other.
I will say that because like, yeah, in Gap there was happening
in the beginning of their relationship.
Let us not forget that like that was a thing that was happening
and it turned into a beautiful relationship.
But there is toxic behavior. But like they're not toxic
towards each other, which is which again, like it shows that
it's possible to have a drama. Would that be toxic just to
create drama like a lot of like dramas, just like in general,
this is not specific to any region of the world.
Like a lot of times they're just like, oh, how do we make this
interesting? Let the characters do horrible
shit to each other to make it interesting to create like, you
know, like L the L word would do that shit.
And they're like, this is too happy.
Let's like let them cheat on each other or like stab each
other in the back just because like that'll create drama.
It's like, do we need to be doing this?
Like if the story is like, well thought out and like there's a
situation there and you can make the situation bad, but like, you
don't have to make your characters toxic towards each
other. So like, yeah, that's a really
good point. I'm glad everybody keeps
mentioning that that is unique to the show.
That's really great. Lana Swan brought that up in our
interview that a lot of shows are like, oh, I good, I'm toxic,
you're toxic to me, so I'll just be toxic to you and then that's
OK. Yeah, and if you don't want a
sword is want a sword is the screenwriter who adapted Blank
the novel to Blank the series. So it has worked in this area.
And yeah, like, totally. I totally agree.
And like, some people find that entertaining.
That's why, like, reality shows are entertaining to people
because it's people being toxic to each other.
Like, oh, ha, ha. But like, if we're script
writing shit, like, can we? Can we not?
So thank you, Royal Pen, for being the template for not doing
that. All right.
And our last comment from Twitter is auditory disturb one.
The loyal pin is an Immaculate representation of two women in
love who had to fight for the simple right to love each other.
The entire production and the soft power is amazing.
Paired with all the performances and music, it's just an amazing
experience. So proud of free Becky.
Like, yeah, like really, it's a simple message.
At the end of the day, they were just fighting to be happy and
that was like that first. Line, yeah.
That that's perfect. Because that really boils it
down to what this is. Yeah, absolutely.
So thank you for that contribution.
Like I totally agree. So all right, well, those were
all the comments we got about why people love the loyal pin.
If you please comment below this episode or hit us up on all our
social medias and let us know why you love the loyal pin.
It's been a few months now. We've had time to watch re watch
sit with it. So like, you know, why did you
love the show? Why do you still love it?
And let us know because you know, we're always happy to talk
about it. This was an incredible,
incredible TV show period, as some people have pointed out.
So like keep watching, rewatching it's it's a beautiful
story. I'm glad it exists.
Thank you to idol factory. Thank you to everybody that
worked on this. Thank you to Mon Ma for writing
the novels 2 like two of them. She kept it going.
You know, like thank you for that giving us because like
again, if that first book ended and there was no more loyal bid,
I'm Oh my God, Mon ma, Oh my God.
So thank you for finishing the giving us the source material.
This was a great story. Yeah.
Any final words, Caitlin? No.
We've said so many words. Yeah.
And have you, did you ever learn the theme song?
Oh. No I didn't, but I got the last
note. I can sing it.
Go for it. Can you do it now?
No Sing it out singing with me, damn it.
I actually do not know how high it is, but I know I can hit it.
I love it. I love that.
Well, it's the first scene song. I don't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's real?
We haven't really talked about the music.
OK. The first theme song is the one
that Caitlin was like, I'm going to learn this and then never
learned it. But then I love the I do love
the Free and Becky song that they sing for the show.
The OSTAI think they original song for the show.
It was really good. I love the musical instruments
in it. They harmonize very well
together, their voices. So like I do like their song as
well. Like to as other people have
pointed out, the music was really good at the show.
Again, the jazz traumatized me, but like the music overall was
super. The jazz traumatizing because it
just came at scene, certain scenes, and I was like, Oh dear,
let's let that happen. I want to just say in my
defense, when I said that I would learn the theme song, I
said also said. But I probably won't because who
has time for that? OK.
No, it's valid. It's valid, it's valid, but that
means rewatch. Gotta rewatch and learn it.
Caitlin Motivation. Maybe one day, maybe, maybe
there'll be a big energy After Dark over on our Patreon where I
finally learned the song and I'll just surprise you in one of
the episodes and be like, hey Fiora, guess what I got.
An ode to the loyal pin, to the music of the loyal pin, I mean.
So look out for that Patreon, maybe we don't know, might come
to you. So thank you.
So we hope you enjoyed this. You know this.
We know this isn't our normal like scene by scene breakdown or
things like that. But we just wanted to be able to
give a shout out to like a lot of the shows that have come out
recently that we really enjoyed and I think deserve a spotlight
like the loyal pin and we'll be covering other shows that have
come out kind of in this format. So let us know if you liked it.
Didn't like it? What shows you want us to cover?
Like, yeah. Just to give you guys a little
bit of a heads up because right now we're also in the middle of
doing heart stopper, which is not a tiny girl up show
obviously. But if you like 23.5, I would
highly recommend heart stopper because they're very similar in
terms of like tone and content and queerness.
So like I highly recommend it. But we as voted by our Patreon
members, the next show we will be getting into in a deep dive
format like scene by scene like how we did gap and blank will be
Pluto the series. So after we wrap up Heart
Stopper, we'll be jumping into Pluto in a.
There's a lot going on in that show.
I just can't wait to talk about it because Oh my God, that's a
show like damn, OK, we're not going to get into that here, but
like we'll be getting into that next.
So that's what's coming up next. And we'll be doing like reviews
like this for a couple of other shows that came out in between.
So I don't know which ones because we're still deciding,
but I think the secret of us is going to be 1 of.
Them, yeah. So that's it for the Loyal pin.
Let us know what you think. We'll be back to cover cranium
at some point. Just not yet, cuz it's not yet.
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