1 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:09,160 Hello and welcome to Big Gay Energy. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,360 I'm Caitlin. And I'm Fiora. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,600 Come along with us while we dive into the fun and nuances of 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,280 queer media. Representation matters, and 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,600 we're. Here to talk about it. 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,800 Cheers, queers. What's on the big gay agenda 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,640 today, Theora? Today we're going to talk about 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,960 why we love the Earth from the Four Element series. 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,160 I'm so excited to talk about this because this show surprised 10 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:42,000 me in so many ways. So many ways and all in like all 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:47,640 good ways mostly. So yes, yeah, yes. 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,280 So this will not be a sea by sea breakdown of the Earth. 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,320 This is going to be an overview of all the things we loved about 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,400 this series and what you loved about the series. 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,880 So thank you in advance to everybody that answered our 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,600 social media posts asking why do you love the Earth because we 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,840 will be reading your comments as well. 18 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,920 So thank you for adding to our discussion today. 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,360 If you're looking for more the four elements content just in 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,120 general, we reacted to All of the Earth and that is available 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,400 on our Patreon. There are select episodes on 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,880 YouTube, but the full series and all of its glory is on Patreon. 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,400 So for $5, you can check all of that out. 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,000 And we will be reacting to the water, which by the time this 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,120 post, you probably already have. So that's coming too. 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,320 So all of the Four elements will be over there in reaction video 27 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:35,480 form. If you're looking for more 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,680 comment about our content about the Earth specifically, we did 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:43,240 do a book club episode where we went through the novel, which is 30 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:45,360 amazing. If you haven't read it, I highly 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,360 suggest it because honestly, the author is just fantastic and it 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,400 adds more stuff that wasn't in the show and it's really great. 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,080 So you should check that out too now that you've seen the series. 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,960 So it really won't spoil anything for you to be honest 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,160 for you, honest with you. And we will continue that for 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,000 all of the four elements. So look forward to more 37 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,160 discussions and book clubs as time goes on. 38 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,600 You're going to have so much content for the four elements, 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,640 so if you're here right now, enjoy. 40 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,400 You're in the right place. All right, so let's get into the 41 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,720 Earth. I want to say what I loved about 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,960 it is that it had everything. It was romantic. 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,760 It was funny and thrilling. I wasn't expecting the thrilling 44 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,200 part. I went into this blind. 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,560 There was more guns in human trafficking than I thought there 46 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,320 would be in this story. So to be honest with you. 47 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,120 Considering I thought the human trafficking would be at 0%, 48 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,560 yeah, I would just. Assume that just general and 49 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,560 then. Boom, human trafficking. 50 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:56,000 Shame on us, I guess. How could we not think about 51 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:56,840 that I. Know, I don't know. 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:05,080 I will say, is it bad that if I actually very much enjoyed the 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:10,320 human trafficking storyline, because it was very different? 54 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,760 I. Don't enjoy that. 55 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,280 That's what happened. But I enjoy like that's what 56 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,520 they tackle because we haven't seen that like that's. 57 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,360 I mean, we say it in life unfortunately, but yes. 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,600 I mean, it's been in my fiction in a long time. 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,280 Yes, I. I guess you're saying a Thai 60 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,440 girl love has not talked about human trafficking? 61 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:41,160 It's unique to that and it just gave us something new and fresh 62 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:47,120 and unfortunately awful people. But like, it was very 63 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:53,960 interesting to watch. One thing that I love is Din's 64 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,160 introduction, because boy does that girl come in guns a 65 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,720 blazing. Literally, literally. 66 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:08,120 And they try to set up very early on the parallel between 67 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,400 Din and Wazoo. Is there ever really a 68 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,120 competition between the two of them? 69 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:17,560 I don't think so. But for Rose, who was just 70 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,720 coming back from the United States, having to relearn 71 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,920 everything again because she's like, what is my life, my old 72 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,040 life? I'm just coming back to She 73 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,680 doesn't remember these people. No. 74 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,160 And then, OK, what I have a slight hard time with is that 75 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,480 she doesn't remember Din and Wassu, but then all of a sudden 76 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,200 her memories come back so vividly. 77 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,600 And I guess maybe when you're in that environment, that's 78 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:44,240 plausible. But they they come back so 79 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,200 quickly and she's like, I immediately know. 80 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,360 Who you are? Although she had no idea in the 81 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,400 beginning, I think with. With Rose, like, I mean, again, 82 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,160 this is where like the the show kind of loses you, but in the 83 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,400 novel, you're in Rose's head a lot more. 84 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,720 Rose has a hard time reconciling who Din is now versus who Din 85 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,440 was as a kid because Rose has been gone for 14 years. 86 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,760 And like she like, of course she doesn't, she doesn't know them 87 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,080 as adults. Like she doesn't know any of 88 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,520 these people. She just knew has vague memories 89 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,800 from when she was a kid and like they were playing and nobody had 90 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,440 responsibilities. You know what I mean? 91 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,600 And here's Din with weapons and it's like, who the fuck is this? 92 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,560 Like Din couldn't defend A grasshopper when she was a child 93 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,120 and now she's like literally guns and blazing like he's so 94 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,800 roses. It's very jarring to me, Rose. 95 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,720 And you're like, what the fuck happened when I was gone? 96 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,920 Why is everybody so different? Like, and the thing about this 97 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,080 too is Rosa's navigating this by herself. 98 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,760 She wasn't supposed to like her dad was supposed to be there to 99 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,440 fill her in because he purposefully shielded her from 100 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,400 all the farm politics happening because he's like, no, no, no, 101 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,560 girl, I will handle this. Then you can come back to 102 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,560 Thailand. But she none of that happened. 103 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,000 So she comes back in the middle of all this function. 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,160 I was like what the fuck is happening? 105 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,440 And all she has is MO Dang who? MO Dang knows a lot of tea but 106 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,280 she also doesn't know everything. 107 00:06:04,280 --> 00:06:07,440 So like poor Rose is trying to like figure out what the hell is 108 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,120 going on while her dad's in life threatening condition and like 109 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,880 doesn't know anything. And like, her dad didn't prep 110 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,680 her for any of this because he was trying to like shield her to 111 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,240 protect her, which did her a disservice because then she 112 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,880 comes back and she's like, I don't know what, who are these 113 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,200 people? Like, you know what I mean? 114 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,680 Like, so poor Rose is just trying to like figure this out 115 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,360 on her own. And it was like weird. 116 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,720 Like what a weird thing to have to like be like, what is what is 117 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,080 Dan have a gun? Since when? 118 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,960 Why are they pointing to have a gun? 119 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,960 Wait a minute, why does WESU? Have a gun also. 120 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,760 I also love in the series the way then they're just like no 121 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,760 one has changed. Also at the same time, yeah, 122 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,080 they have guns, but everybody's the same. 123 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,600 I love the scene where Dan and Wesu are pointing guns each 124 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,760 other and Rose starts egging them on. 125 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,840 It's like that is definitely one of my favorite scenes you. 126 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,120 Just got here and she's like, do it, shoot each other and it's 127 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,800 like, what the fuck actually shot each other? 128 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,880 That was crazy. That was not in the mouth. 129 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,120 I just realized that that was hilarious. 130 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:13,800 Jesus. Christ. 131 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,000 But anyway, like that just shows that is part of like the 132 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,480 parallel between the two of them. 133 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,960 And like they both have said in the beginning like that they 134 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,400 were close to her dad and that her dad asked them to watch out 135 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,640 for her. And the interesting is thing is 136 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,920 that Wasu got to Rose 1st. And now as humans, like you kind 137 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,240 of tend to lean towards like, whatever you're told first 138 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:51,640 rather than, in my opinion at least, like to what to believe. 139 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,760 Like, yeah, she she can think about it. 140 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,360 But like, Wasu got to her first was like, your dad asked me to 141 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,560 look out for you. OK, cool. 142 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,240 But then here comes Din saying the exact same thing to her. 143 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,600 And so like, what is she? Who is she supposed to believe? 144 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:17,200 But Wasu was trying so hard to force her to believe him whereas 145 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,120 Din was trying like didn't try to do everything to get Rose to 146 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,520 believe her. Like she trusted her to figure 147 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,200 it out for herself and basically gave her the autonomy to choose 148 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,880 whereas Wasu was trying to take that away from her. 149 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:38,159 Also, it's very interesting because Din was at the scene, 150 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:40,559 like they say that Din was there that night. 151 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,560 So like Din could have been the one to do this, but she did 152 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:50,480 choose Din at the end because of her actions and like the space 153 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,320 that she gave Rose to process and decide for herself. 154 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,040 And he's just a pushy asshole. He is. 155 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,040 I mean, Rose tests both of them. Like if you like. 156 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,760 The thing about Rose is Rose is not. 157 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,600 And I went off on this in the novel, but like, Rose is not a 158 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,280 damsel like in distress. Like she could easily be set up 159 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,480 that way, but she's not. She's really intelligent. 160 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,320 And they make a point, at least the author made a very point, a 161 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,960 big point to be like, Rose is fucking smart and Rose tests the 162 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,240 two of them because she doesn't, again, she doesn't know who to 163 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,800 trust to your point, and she doesn't have her dad to ask like 164 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,520 who, who the fuck did you say this too? 165 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,960 So she has to navigate this by herself. 166 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,160 And so she does test them. And again, Wasu is like, you 167 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,480 should believe me, right? Because I'm telling you this and 168 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,880 then den's like, I'm not going to tell you what to do. 169 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,360 Like you figure it out period. And so like she, she does test 170 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,280 them and that and when Din says that, that's when she's like, 171 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,840 OK, it's obviously you because you're not trying. 172 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,560 If you both tried to push me, then this would have sucked. 173 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:51,720 But you're very like, I trust you to like Din shows that she 174 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,520 trusts her to your point. So like Rose does set up that 175 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,080 test for them. She doesn't just like blindly 176 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,480 believe anybody as she shouldn't. 177 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,360 These mother fuckers are trying to kill each other in broad 178 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,080 daylight. You shouldn't believe any of 179 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,080 these fucking people like poor Rose. 180 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,240 Oh my God, what a way to come. Back. 181 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:16,560 Home, though, by the way, the craziest part is at the end when 182 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:19,200 Dan's like, it's only been two months since all this start and 183 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,160 it's like, what a wild two months for a road. 184 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,960 It's like, Oh my God. I don't know how I didn't catch 185 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,560 that because damn, that's a lot that happens in two months and 186 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:31,280 they end up ultimately getting married twice. 187 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,800 Twice, but I mean like for. Real. 188 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,120 Yeah, that was all two months. That was 2 two months. 189 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,040 This is 2 months, which is the that's the craziest part of the 190 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,120 knot of this story is that this all happens in two months. 191 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:46,440 It's wild. Wow. 192 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,800 So the dad recovers in two months too. 193 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,320 That makes that makes biological sense. 194 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,240 He gets out of his coma in two months. 195 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,880 That makes sense, actually. And then he needs rehab for a 196 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,960 long time, like like physical therapy and stuff like that 197 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,800 actually makes sense. But yeah, this was an insane or 198 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,960 rose. So it starts with shootouts and 199 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,560 then it ends with like, arresting people and like, dead 200 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:14,280 people. What a crazy. 201 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,600 Welcome back. Oh my gosh. 202 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,760 That's something I wasn't expecting in general was. 203 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Death. Yeah, Waseda gets shot like that 204 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,440 and the dad to die like that. Like I just was not expecting 205 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,560 that. I thought like, yeah, maybe 206 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:30,720 they'll get locked up. Maybe something will happen. 207 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,480 God hope they don't give them a redemption arc. 208 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,080 They didn't. No, thank you Sam for them not 209 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,920 doing that. Salman did not do that. 210 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,640 OK, but I guess Pop Corning. Speaking of redemption arcs, one 211 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,200 thing I did not like about the series and where the series did 212 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:54,360 a disservice to the novel is Cow's redemption arc because it 213 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,440 was very rushed in the series, like so rushed. 214 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,960 And if you go listen to the novel book club that we did like 215 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,120 I'll talk about Cow's redemption arc. 216 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,640 And I actually really liked the way it was written in this in 217 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,040 the novel because it was this very earned, not that redemption 218 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,880 needs to be earned, but like narratively it was like an 219 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,800 earned redemption arc. And she like goes through all 220 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,040 the stuff. It takes years and she makes 221 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:27,720 amends with like Din and Rose. This that's not what happened. 222 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,880 Like this and the show, they're like, yeah, dense. 223 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,480 Like I can never forgive you, which happens in the novel. 224 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,880 And then like 5 seconds later forgives her and then she's at 225 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,280 their second wedding. I'm like, what the fuck is this? 226 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,720 It just felt really rushed. Like they were basically like, 227 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,080 shit, we have to do this in the last episode because you can't 228 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,360 reveal the villain. That's the twist that it was 229 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,440 cow. They reveal it in the 230 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,720 penultimate episode, which is 7. And then they're like, well, we 231 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,160 have to like go through all of us and explain it and wrap it up 232 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,040 by 8. I did not like how they did her 233 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,000 redemption arc. It was, they really did a 234 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,160 disservice to the author, who put a lot into Cow's redemption 235 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,840 arc and made it feel very real and narratively satisfying. 236 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,640 And in the series it was not. It was just rushed. 237 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,800 My opinion? Yeah, it was like midway through 238 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,200 Episode 7 where she's like, this is no longer your home, I'm no 239 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,480 longer your friend. And then like in the beginning 240 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,800 of the next episode, that's when she flips. 241 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,400 So yeah, I I agree that that was pretty rushed. 242 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,160 I didn't like. It but again, it's it's the time 243 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,520 for them as well, because that would have had to been revealed 244 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:33,360 at least one episode beforehand to actually give that story 245 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,760 justice, but they just they didn't have enough time for it. 246 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,520 No, but they yeah, yeah, they could have written it 247 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,160 differently in the last episode to mirror the novel a little bit 248 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,320 better, but. That makes sense. 249 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,160 That was the yeah, they did it. They just, yeah. 250 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,320 So that was the one thing. This was a perfect series for me 251 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,800 until that happened. And I was like no, Nope. 252 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,000 That's fair. Something. 253 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Well, popcorn was something that we didn't. 254 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,920 I don't have many things that I didn't like. 255 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,000 Yeah, I know one thing. That was the one thing. 256 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,600 The one thing I wasn't thrilled with is that when Din gets 257 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,080 drunk, she tells Rose that whatever happens that night is 258 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,280 because she's drunk. And then Rose just kind of goes 259 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,880 with it. But then we get another episode 260 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,400 where Rose basically does, she doesn't say anything, but she 261 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,400 gets drunk and then that's when the intimate contact is 262 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,200 initiated again. And so like it happens both 263 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,160 while they're drunk and the other person just kind of lets 264 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,400 it happen until they fall asleep on top of the other person. 265 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,360 Like this happens twice the exact same thing basically. 266 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,240 So I don't like things that are happening when they're drunk. 267 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,480 I I need at least they weren't drunk at their wedding. 268 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:55,080 I mean, I I don't assume so. No, OK, I want to talk about 269 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,680 this because this was something that does not happen in the 270 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:02,320 novel that they put in the show. So let's let's talk about this 271 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,960 because let's let's just go through the whole thing, OK, the 272 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,520 drunk make out sessions. So it's episode 5, OK, it all of 273 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,280 it happens in 5 S In that episode, it starts with drunk 274 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,200 Den falling on top of Rose, then kissing Rose under the guise of 275 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,160 being drunk. Then that same episode book ends 276 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,680 with drunk Rose topping Den the same way, making out with her 277 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,160 and then she falls asleep. So it's the same thing in the 278 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,360 novel. No drunk kissing happens at all, 279 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,480 ever. OK, In fact, well, listen to the 280 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,160 book club because this is actually one of my favorite, 281 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,080 favorite scenes, the way the the writer of this book series loves 282 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,320 making fun of drama series for these typical shit they do. 283 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,600 And she purposely makes fun of them in her novel. 284 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:44,920 And it's my favorite in her novels. 285 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,000 And she did it again in the water when I read the water. 286 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,880 And it's really funny because she points it out. 287 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,560 She's like, yeah, this shit doesn't happen in real life. 288 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,600 Like she constantly does that. And it's really funny. 289 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,960 She plays with the probes. So the series was kind of like, 290 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,880 yeah, but we're a drama series, so we're going to do it kind of 291 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,880 thing. So what happens in the not in 292 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,760 both? OK, so the back to the series. 293 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,800 So in both instances, to your point, everybody passes out and 294 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,800 like, nothing happens beyond making out and being like, I'm 295 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,480 drunk. That's where that's why I'm 296 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,400 doing this. Sure, sure Jan, and I'm with 297 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,240 you. I am notoriously not a fan of 298 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,960 the drama scene trope with the drunk make out scenes that 299 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,280 border into non consensual territory. 300 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,720 But in this case I'm less mad about it because I think it 301 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,000 makes sense for the characters. Namely, because and think about 302 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,480 Din and Rose in episode. By the time we get to episode 5, 303 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,560 S Din and Rose are both extremely nervous about 304 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,960 confessing their true feelings, and they have 20 years of 305 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,240 history between them and neither of them have romantic 306 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,960 experience. OK, just think about who you're 307 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,200 dealing with here. So it would make sense for them 308 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,920 at this stage OK to need a drastic removal of their 309 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,240 emotional armor before either of them would have the courage to 310 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,560 act on their true feelings. So I think a drunken make out 311 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,599 session fits the characters for who they are at that time. 312 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,839 What would have not made sense and would have never fit these 313 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:17,040 two characters is if they would had a drunken hookup. 314 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:20,680 Because that does not make sense for either Din or Rose. 315 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:24,319 And I'm very grateful the screenwriters did not decide to 316 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:27,319 go that route. I would have been mad about 317 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:29,480 that. But them drunkenly making out 318 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,320 and be like, no, it's just because I'm drunk. 319 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,800 Like, like being idiots about it makes sense because they're dumb 320 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,120 and, you know, 20 years of history between them, you know, 321 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:42,000 so that makes sense. But like for them to like have 322 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,520 sex while they're drunk makes no sense for either of them. 323 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,240 That is fair, especially with like Din, she's always in her 324 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,160 head over thinking things correct and trying to make sure 325 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,360 that Rose is OK. So like it is harder for her to 326 00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:00,520 be able to especially act on it because she's probably 327 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,840 overthinking in her head. Well, I mean, yeah, we see that 328 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,200 she's overthinking like those Rose like me, like should I even 329 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,640 do this? Like all those things going 330 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:19,160 through her head. So having this, like, drinking 331 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:27,400 to remove her, like thoughts and just, yeah, trying to figure out 332 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,320 the right words. Emotional armor comes down. 333 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,160 That's all it is. Yeah. 334 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,360 Also like give her a little bit of confidence. 335 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,360 Right, exactly. So it's like I'm not mad at like 336 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:41,600 drunk make out scenes, just in general, like usually like just 337 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,080 that because like that happens in real life. 338 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,160 It's like we we get mad, we're like, wow, I can't believe 339 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,440 people bake out with their yes, people do that shit when they're 340 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,400 drunk because it like, yeah, it's quiets your thoughts and 341 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,800 then it like gives you courage you wouldn't have otherwise. 342 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,160 Like take girls for example. It's a great example. 343 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,920 You have this like Min not just like just skip ahead like 30 344 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:01,840 seconds if you haven't seen the show and you're planning on it 345 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,480 like Min, OK. When Min's like doing the the 346 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,080 photo shoot, she's like, oh, give me some like alcohol that 347 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,840 will help me like loosen up. Like kind of because like that's 348 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,120 real. You're just like, I'm in my 349 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:13,760 head. I need to not be in my head. 350 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,760 So it makes sense for Din's kind of like that. 351 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,120 Like to your point, Din's more introverted and so she's in her 352 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,680 head. Also another point about the 353 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,520 show or a point about Din that is made over and over again is 354 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,880 Din cannot communicate well to save her life, hence the 355 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,480 proposal. Or she's just like, marry me 356 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,040 right now with no explanation and that goes poorly, right? 357 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,360 So Din can't communicate. So like she needs help. 358 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:37,680 So like the alcohol is held trying to help Din. 359 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,440 Basically, Din is not great at expressing her feelings. 360 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,080 It's like it has no experience with this. 361 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,720 And so like these, I like characters like this because 362 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,240 they're 30 year olds trying to figure out how to be in love for 363 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,880 the first time and like how to like express their feelings. 364 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,720 And they fucking can't because she spent 30 years not doing it 365 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,280 and so has to figure it out real quick and it gets messy. 366 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,320 Like those feelings are hard. No one's helping her with this. 367 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,960 She's trying to navigate it on her own. 368 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,040 She's kind of a disaster, which is makes her endearing, but 369 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,080 like, and she's not like malicious about it. 370 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,440 She's like very good intention, but she's kind of a disaster. 371 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,800 It's kind of hilarious. And then you have Rose, who's 372 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,280 also doesn't know what she's doing and is also trying to 373 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,640 navigate this with Din, who's like older than her and not 374 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:25,360 helpful as just, you know, it kind of like made sense, even 375 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:28,080 though like the author made a point to be like, no romantic 376 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,760 tropes like this in my novel, please. 377 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,560 But then the series is like, we're going to do it because 378 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,560 we're a series. That's that's wild though. 379 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,480 They'll be like, Nah, we're just going to ignore. 380 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,080 That they're like, we're just going to do it. 381 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,720 Yeah. It's like, seriously, go read 382 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,440 the novel. Listen to the book club for the 383 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,000 scene in particular is really funny the way Salman wrote it, 384 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,720 so fun. She made a point to be like, 385 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,480 that's not what happens in real life. 386 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,440 The series is like, this isn't going to do it though, because 387 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,040 we're a drama series and we have tropes to fulfill. 388 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,920 Oh my gosh. OK, something something else I 389 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,120 really love about the series specifically as I thought the 390 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:09,960 casting went on point for the earth. 391 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,080 All the cousins are great. And like that's not we're not 392 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,320 going to super focus on all the cousins because this is Dan and 393 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,080 Rose's story, as I'm not personally, I will talk about 394 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,480 them, but like for casting, I specifically want to talk about 395 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,160 Den and Rose. So Apple and men, I thought I 396 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,800 thought Apple was perfect for Den. 397 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,080 Let's just address the elephant in the room right now. 398 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,960 So basically the OG casting for this was supposed to be fine, 399 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,800 Yoko. We're supposed to play Din and 400 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,440 Rose. And while I believe in them, I 401 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,200 like this route better, I think, because I think Apple did an 402 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,920 amazing job of leaning into how awkward Din is and making a 403 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,040 point to be like, she's a mess. And I thought she did a great 404 00:21:54,040 --> 00:22:00,360 job of like playing the endearing awkward Din. 405 00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,000 And she did a good job of tapping into Dim's warmth 406 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,200 because that's a huge part of Din that like the author really 407 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,080 harps on. And that's something that like 408 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,120 in the novel, like you're in Rose's point of view a lot. 409 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:16,320 And like, that's what connects her to Din. 410 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,200 And so I think that she did a great job of bringing out all 411 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,240 the characteristics of Din that are important for Din. 412 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,880 I just love how awkward Din is. That's probably one of my 413 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,320 favorite parts. But Ansa's base, I mean, Din is 414 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,800 basically Ansa if she ran a farm. 415 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,040 Like, let's be honest, like that's Din. 416 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,200 Oh my gosh, Din, could you imagine? 417 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Like they did this like mentorship thing and she has to 418 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,280 mentor Ansa and be like, I got nothing. 419 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,080 This this is how I live my life too. 420 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,920 I just I would love to see those two characters interact. 421 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:51,840 That would be hilarious. Oh my gosh, no, I yeah, I don't 422 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,440 want to like think too much and like talk too much about like 423 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,040 what would have been, but like I feel like didn't would have come 424 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,480 off a little too confident if I was to play. 425 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,600 Yeah, or too intense, because if I super intense, that's her 426 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,200 greatest strength as an actor is like that intensity that she 427 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,200 has. It's so great and it's like not 428 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,400 many actors can do it. So Dan would have been, but Dan 429 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,480 is intense. Not that Dan's not intense, but 430 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,880 it would have been fun to actually see her be more comedic 431 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,640 as an actor. I think it would have been fun. 432 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,600 Honestly. I don't know, Like I'm saying, 433 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,400 like I'm saying, if it was the original casting, it still would 434 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,360 have been a great show. But I just think that Apple was 435 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:30,760 a really good good fit for Dan because she made Dan goofy and 436 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,440 and Dan is goofy and like she did a good job of like doing all 437 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,880 like leaning into like the awkwardness of like. 438 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,280 Yeah, her facial expressions, her facial expressions were like 439 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,960 so awkward too. And like like I. 440 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,880 Did this such a good job with all of that because especially. 441 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:52,320 That scene where she like when Rose and her dad go to Bangkok 442 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,880 and she's like sneaking around and then Rose finds her and she 443 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,560 has the flower just like this, like micro expressions on her 444 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,680 face. So she's just like, it's just 445 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:04,600 she was. So good. 446 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,240 She was hilarious. She was so cute. 447 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,640 She is adorable. She's roses. 448 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,320 Yeah. They they both did such a great 449 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,120 job. Yeah, Mim did great too. 450 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:18,320 This is her first acting role is my understanding. 451 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,720 And she did a great job with Rose and showing that Rose is a 452 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,640 capable person who is intelligent and also silly. 453 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,600 Like Rose has all those qualities too. 454 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,200 And I think Mim did a good job bringing that into the like 455 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,320 highlighting that in Rose because those are again 456 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,840 important character traits for Rose also that kind of foiled 457 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,040 in. So they did a good job 458 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,200 complimenting. They're acting with each other, 459 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,560 which is great because you have like Apple's like a veteran 460 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,880 industry person who, by the way, directed the best pilot ever, 461 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,800 which was the last case. Oh my God. 462 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Like I. I like the art. 463 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,920 Told me who? Apple was and I'm just like, I'm 464 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,200 I want to bow down to her like. Major artist crush on Apple for 465 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,680 fucking directing that. Those were the best pilots ever. 466 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,360 It's so good, it's a actually a crime that it didn't get made 467 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:13,920 into a series. I don't think like it officially 468 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,280 got shot down either. I think it might still be like a 469 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,800 potential, at least from what I've seen. 470 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:25,560 It was just that she had to go into this project and like, she 471 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,640 got thrown into other things because she's she's too. 472 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,640 Talented. She's too. 473 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:36,000 Talented, yeah. Oh my gosh, yeah, she's 474 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,920 directing again. She's. 475 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,480 Going to direct something else that's coming out, like for 476 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,720 North Star. I forgot what it was. 477 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,360 Another girl up here, she's directing. 478 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,800 Oh, I would love to talk to her. Seriously, I would love to pick 479 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,440 her brain. She's really brilliant and 480 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,000 honestly, in some scenes you could I could tell that she was 481 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,040 a director. Especially like the, what is it, 482 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:59,240 the din and roses, Like they're sealing their marriage scene at 483 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,560 the very end. I could just tell by the way she 484 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,040 was acting. I'm like, you've been behind the 485 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,200 camera before because I can tell by the way you're like 486 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,080 positioning yourself and stuff like you're, you filmed shit 487 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,040 before. Like she's just really brilliant 488 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,440 the way she does stuff. Like you can tell she has a lot 489 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,800 of experience. Oh my gosh, I love her so much. 490 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,920 Yeah, Also with that she was. Great for Den. 491 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,040 I loved her as Den. That scene after the wedding, I 492 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,680 love that they chose to go intense like that because it, 493 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,040 it's really been building up. Like they fully know they're on 494 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,840 the same page and like they, they want it. 495 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,960 And I just love that intensity from the two of them because 496 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,640 it's so different from what we've seen too. 497 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,840 Like this is who they are when they know they can have what 498 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,960 they want. Yes, and I again, thank you, 499 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,240 Salman, because I love the I love the line for Bros where 500 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,840 she's like, is this who you really are? 501 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,120 You're a thirsty bitch. Like where'd this come from? 502 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,600 And that was from the novel. It's hilarious. 503 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,000 Like the writer of this book does a great job with 504 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,840 characterization, which is one of my favorite things. 505 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,680 That's probably why I like the story so much. 506 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,960 She does a good job of giving like a lot of depth to all of 507 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,640 her characters, even side characters. 508 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,440 Like they all are very 3 dimensional. 509 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,200 What was I going to say? I lost it. 510 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,440 I had a thought that it's gone now. 511 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,560 Going back to Mim real quick, she for a first project too, 512 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,280 like I would not have caught that because she has like the 513 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,280 ugly cry down and I don't mean that she looks ugly but her 514 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:36,040 crying is full body emotion like she's not coming down her nose 515 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,000 she's crying. That. 516 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,960 Hard. Like the tears are dripping off 517 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,200 her chain. Like I don't know where what 518 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,200 place she had to put herself in to get that emotion. 519 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,880 And I hope that I kind of hope that they filmed both hospital 520 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,960 scenes where she's crying like that back-to-back. 521 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:58,160 So she didn't have to do that multiple days because that is a 522 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,400 lot. And just seeing the raw emotion 523 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,960 on her face. And she was, she did that in 524 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,200 multiple scenes, not even just in the hospital. 525 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,720 Yeah. Like when she's crying at at 526 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,880 night and she won't eat, like she did it there too. 527 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,560 Like I'm in all of that because crying is a hard on commands 528 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,640 like that. Yeah. 529 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:21,720 So I'm showing you're brand new like. 530 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,200 Yeah, and like, I'm sure she felt like she had to prove 531 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,920 something to people, too, because it's her first project. 532 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,560 Yeah. She nailed it. 533 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,840 That emotion that takes talent. Yeah, like she must have felt a 534 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,800 lot of pressure, especially because, like in this particular 535 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,840 model, like the Thai girl of industry, it's like ships or 536 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,440 what matters. So it's like you also have to 537 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,680 sell the ship hard. That's how you get projects. 538 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,920 But not only is the pressure on because you've never done this 539 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,920 before, but then it's like you also really have to sell this 540 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,200 partnership you're just entering for the first time, especially 541 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,920 in a huge project like, like, this is a huge project. 542 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,880 Like in the girl of industry, like the four elements and 543 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,960 you're the first one, like, they're the first elements. 544 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,240 Like stuff like, yeah, there's a lot riding on poor men to, like, 545 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,560 do this. She killed it, though, like, not 546 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,640 poor. She really did. 547 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,120 That was a lot of pressure. Oh, I'm so proud of both of them 548 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,760 because. Yeah, a great job. 549 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,840 Absolutely love them. Didn't Rose in particular I 550 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,080 absolutely love. So their tropes are the 551 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:34,800 childhood friends to fake wives to real wives trope I guess. 552 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,960 So they with that they had a lot of childhood flashbacks and I 553 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,240 think the way they did them in the series were super cute. 554 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,160 Like little Din and the Prince outfit was the fucking cutest 555 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,360 thing ever. Din and Little Rose were just 556 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,560 the cutest ever. It wouldn't be me if I didn't 557 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,080 bring up the child actors too. So I'm glad you did it for me 558 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,720 because they are the cutest little things in the world and 559 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,440 they embody the older versions. Like I couldn't believe it. 560 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,680 Like some of little Rose's facial expressions like are the 561 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,440 same as adult Rose. It was the cutest little thing. 562 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,880 And Oh my God, I just, they're so cute. 563 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:24,040 Anyway, I they did a phenomenal job at like and like Din baby 564 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,680 Din when she's running with her arms like literally hanging 565 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,280 down. Yeah, again, they made Din 566 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,640 awkward and it is awkward. It is super awkward. 567 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,240 And she always was. Yeah, no, they did a very good 568 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,720 job. Like they were very cute 569 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,400 flashbacks. Absolutely loved it. 570 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,320 I'm like. Hey, guys. 571 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,200 Go ahead. Go. 572 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,280 Ahead, go ahead. Just something we keep talking 573 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,720 about how like they were, they knew each other in childhood and 574 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,240 how like that's usually the thing that happens. 575 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:01,240 Like they always have a history. I didn't mind it in the show, 576 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,080 no, because they had that such a big gap too. 577 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,840 So they had to relearn each other. 578 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,000 So it's kind of like they didn't fully know each other from a 579 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:15,280 young age and but that foundation was still there. 580 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,720 The key is foundation. So where I have an issue with 581 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,320 this, we knew each other as children trope is when it's like 582 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,080 I saw like Pluto, I saw you once. 583 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,360 We had one conversation for 30 seconds and I was hung up on you 584 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,720 for 20 years. That is not Din and Rose. 585 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,440 Din and Rose legitimately knew each other for years. 586 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,160 Like it's not like there was a fleeting I saw you once thing. 587 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,400 No, they actually like spend time together. 588 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,240 They they embody a lot of old school romantic tropes, like 589 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,640 Rose is literally the girl next door. 590 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,360 Like, you know what I mean? It was very much like we're both 591 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,240 from powerful families and like we're the heirs to these like 592 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,560 farm estates. Like they have a lot of like 593 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,960 sweepingly romantic tropes built into them that makes their story 594 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,280 like this really epic 20 years saga kind of thing. 595 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,480 And it all fits together and makes sense for them, like 596 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,440 because of all the tropes they embody. 597 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:22,240 Yeah. And just, yeah, I, I loved 598 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,480 seeing the foundation. And I like that they gave us so 599 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,360 many of those scenes, too, especially to reinforce that 600 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,600 Wasu has also always been an asshole with the way that he was 601 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,840 trying to force Rose onto a boat. 602 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,240 And, like, glad that memory came back to her because if she 603 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,320 wasn't sure that she chose right before, she definitely chose 604 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,160 right then. Because he's like, your dad told 605 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,120 me it was OK. And Din's like, no, he told me 606 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,080 to never let Rose on a boat. So she's not going on the damn 607 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,400 boat. She didn't say that she's a 608 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,960 child anyway. And then the dad comes, and he's 609 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,240 like, I did tell Din not to let Rose on a boat because she's not 610 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,360 a good swimmer. So like, that just reinforces 611 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,320 that decision for Rose to believe Din. 612 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,560 And yeah, it was a great scene to parallel it. 613 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,720 Yeah, it's a really good scene. Back to their tropes, though, 614 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,880 something that I my favorite trope that they embody is the 615 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,840 fake dating trope. That's I'm a sucker for that 616 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,440 trope. And the reason is, is because in 617 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,160 order for the fake dating trope to be executed perfectly, it 618 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,920 requires the characters to operate at peak dumbass at all 619 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,360 times. And they did. 620 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,000 And it just leads to shenanigans that are just so funny. 621 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,720 And so I was very, very happy about that. 622 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,360 Oh yeah, the the fake dating to that's great real feelings. 623 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,560 My favorite is wonderful, especially when you get the 624 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,560 cousins involved. And yeah, it's not their story 625 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:03,080 so we won't harp too much on them, but boy did they bring in 626 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,640 some chaos to this story in particular, especially with is 627 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:16,239 it Loam or Loam OK, with Loam saying like telling Din that she 628 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,840 should marry Rose but not she forgot out she left out the part 629 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,080 conveniently to explain to Rose why she wants to marry her. 630 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:33,320 And I loved that scene first of all with Din proposing without 631 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,199 explaining why. She's just like, will you marry 632 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:36,639 me? Like what the hell is Rose 633 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,960 supposed to think? Like my best friend is asking me 634 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,440 to marry them right now and then like who? 635 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,920 Out of nowhere like. Yeah, out of nowhere with, you 636 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,840 know, like she probably doesn't realize her feelings yet, but 637 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,679 they're probably still in the back of her head too. 638 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:59,520 So she's like, Oh my God. But again, out of nowhere. 639 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,560 And then I love the scene with is like, you dumb ass. 640 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,040 And like she tells her that she should have talked to her first 641 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:13,080 because yeah, it's only only Din could have done something like 642 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,240 this of not being like, hey, let's I had this plan. 643 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,600 No, I'm just will you marry me? It's it's insane. 644 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,360 It is insane. It's great. 645 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,880 I have stuff about the cousins, but I want to wrap up my 646 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,680 thoughts about Din and Rose. But yeah, I agree, that scene 647 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,720 was just hilarious because Din can't communicate. 648 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,040 And then there's your best example of that. 649 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,880 But just in general, I think that Din and Rose were 650 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:46,120 incredibly sweet as a couple. Like they're very green flag 651 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,240 couple which is. Sweet. 652 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,080 And back to the communication. So one thing I do like about 653 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,120 them as their communication as a couple improved as this as the 654 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,360 story goes on, right. So it to your point, that 655 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,040 example, it really a lot of the reason, the reason why Din 656 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,520 doesn't explain is because she's bad at it, first of all. 657 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,360 But second of all, at that time in the story, Din's inability to 658 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:21,160 communicate her like the like full truth is really tied to the 659 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,720 secretiveness going on about like the human trafficking stuff 660 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:26,240 that she's trying to keep Rose out of the same way Rose's dad 661 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:32,120 was doing it, right? But also like their inability to 662 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,600 communicate as a couple. It is tied into the human 663 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,640 trafficking stuff that Rose doesn't learn about so much 664 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,880 later. But also it's tied into the fact 665 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,520 that Din is an awkward mess sometimes. 666 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,880 And just like that proposal scene. 667 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,600 But if you notice as Din starts to get more in touch with her 668 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,200 feelings for Rose, she actively works on her communication and 669 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,680 it ultimately makes them a stronger couple because like 670 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:57,720 Rose is constantly being like, no Din, you have to fucking 671 00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:01,040 actually tell me how you feel about shit because otherwise 672 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,440 it's going to cause problems. And I love that Rose 673 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,760 specifically points that out. She's like, cuz like at one 674 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,800 point I think I'm a honeymoon, the fake one. 675 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,120 She's like, what do you want to do, Dan? 676 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,840 And Dan's like whatever you want to do, Rose. 677 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,480 And she's like, but Dan, what do you want to do? 678 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,040 And she's like, I like what you like, like Rose. 679 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,320 And Rose is like, girl, if you don't fucking tell me what you 680 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,680 actually want and just give me what I want all the time, like 681 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,440 you're going to resent me eventually. 682 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,680 And I don't want that. So like, you need to fucking be 683 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160 honest. So I love that Rose is a 684 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,160 therapist sometimes to Dan. And it's like, girl, no. 685 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,040 Then she pushes back like. And I think that ultimately 686 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,880 helps them because Dan is all too eager to just people please, 687 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,520 for everybody because Dan is Earth. 688 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,120 She's Mother Earth. She's just the nurturing one. 689 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,920 She's this ultimate, like, support person. 690 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,160 But like, roses, like, forces Dan to be like, Dan, what do you 691 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,520 want? Because you actually have to 692 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,640 answer that question. You can't just live for 693 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,280 everybody else. Like, you have to, like, tap 694 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,120 into what you want sometimes. And that's how you get, like, 695 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,440 the sexy scene at the end where she's like, whoa, Dan, what is 696 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,720 all this? It's like, yeah, Dan's going 697 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:03,840 after what she actually wants in that scene. 698 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,160 And that's probably the biggest like, and it's, it's a stark 699 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,960 contrast of Din being greedy versus Din being selfless, which 700 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,080 is all the time. So, and it's a good 701 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,480 juxtaposition because like balance is important, you know 702 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:23,000 what I mean? Yes, but yeah, I loved, I loved 703 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,160 that as well with Rose being like, no, tell me I or else 704 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:35,040 you're going to resent it if you keep just doing what I want. 705 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,240 That's a good point and something good to show too. 706 00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:42,080 Like yeah, there's some compromise in relationships 707 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,000 where you do what the other partner wants, but you have to 708 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,960 take what you want as well or else you're living for someone 709 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,000 else and not for yourself either. 710 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,760 Yeah. And that that conversation is 711 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,800 from the novel. Like that's salmon 712 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,480 characterizing Tin and Rose. And it was, again, very strong 713 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,320 character author. That's all I have for dinner and 714 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,840 Rose, I don't know if you have anything else for Dinner and 715 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,560 Rose. My next point is about the 716 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,160 cousins. I just have another scene that I 717 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,880 loved between the two of them do it, and it's when Din is showing 718 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,160 Rose the vegetable farm and she's like, our vegetables are 719 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,960 so clean. You can just eat right off of 720 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,480 it. Like right off of it. 721 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,880 You can eat it right as you pick it. 722 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:39,360 And Rose is like, oh, yeah, there's a big Caterpillar on the 723 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,480 leaf. Yeah. 724 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,240 And so like, they Crouch down to try and find this Caterpillar. 725 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,920 And, like, they both, well, Din's looking for the 726 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,520 Caterpillar. And Rose looks to Din, and it 727 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,000 looks like they're about to kiss. 728 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:57,440 And then Din starts panicking and eats a leaf. 729 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,640 Eats lettuce or whatever the fuck. 730 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,920 Yeah, you dad's an idiot. And I just like, again, it's her 731 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:08,240 facial expressions too, she has them down and it's just so good 732 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,080 and I love it so much. Such a good actor. 733 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,600 She's so funny. I love it. 734 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,680 Yeah, I will. And again, I will die on the 735 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,320 hill that she's perfect for den. She's a perfect den. 736 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:24,840 She's so funny. All right, so the Chaos cousins 737 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,200 absolutely love them. You're right. 738 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,040 This wouldn't be the four elements without the four 739 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,880 elements, and they're a whirlwind. 740 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,680 Do you have anything you want to say about them? 741 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,320 I just I want to talk about like a specific scene and stuff. 742 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,320 With them, just go ahead, OK? So I the thing I love about them 743 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,080 in the in the series specifically is that every scene 744 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,320 with the cousins in it was slightly different from the 745 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,560 novel, but not in a bad way at all. 746 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,400 In fact, most scenes in which the cousins were in it were even 747 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,080 funnier than they were in the and the novel is funny. 748 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,560 Like they're absolutely chaotic and really fucking funny. 749 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,400 And I appreciate this story because it's not just in 750 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,800 general, because it's not just the romantic couple that is the 751 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,640 main star. There's a family element to it 752 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,640 which is missing from a lot of Thai girl love novels, to be 753 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,680 serious, to be quite honest, like And so it's nice when 754 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,640 they're in there and this one's a really strong, solid family 755 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,320 and they just keep showing up and just like causing chaos and 756 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,920 like in a lovable way. And I think it's probably the 757 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:35,280 best thing about this whole series is the the family element 758 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,200 that's very central to the story, even though it's not 759 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,960 central because like Din and Rose's love story is the central 760 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,800 story, but like it wouldn't be the same without the family. 761 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,720 The family is like really the backbone of the whole thing. 762 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,080 And OK, so back to the fact that a lot of the scenes in the 763 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,400 series are even funnier and my then the original. 764 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,840 And I will say my absolute favorite is via noms first 765 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,160 appearance. It's probably my favorite. 766 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,440 It's the most different and it's just chaotic as fuck. 767 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:09,440 So when they first show up via nom roll up on a rig attached to 768 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,040 a motorcycle because they have to go find den and Rose in the 769 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,240 middle of the fields, right? And when you get the first shot 770 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:19,640 of them, Fi is fearless as fuck on this rickety fucking side car 771 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,680 thing, right? And that makes sense because 772 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,880 she's the fire. So she's like wild. 773 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,040 But nom just go back and look at nom in the scene. 774 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,480 Nom the Super, super serious, a hotel heiress is like on this 775 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,120 rickety sidecar and she looks so freaking uncomfortable, like 776 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,400 riding on this thing because in what universe does she get on a 777 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,800 very unsafe looking like sidecar? 778 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,200 Like so OK, so how does she get on this thing? 779 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,760 Like, OK, she had to have agreed to this because 1/5 was freaking 780 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,760 out. And so she's like, OK, I'll I'll 781 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,520 get on this thing for you. But also like her and five, I 782 00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,920 thought Dan was in danger. So it it speaks to who Nam is as 783 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,720 a person that she got on this thing for her family. 784 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,040 So that tells you a lot about Nam and the water right right 785 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,800 then and there because like you guys go watch it. 786 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,440 She looks freaked out, to be honest, or spies, like ready to 787 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,320 fight everyone in the scene. OK, so then they roll up on this 788 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,040 rickety thing, buys the first one off of it and then marches 789 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,000 up to them and demands to marry Rose out of never met this woman 790 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,360 and demands to marry Rose out of nowhere. 791 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,480 Then Dennis confused that Fi and number even here she's like when 792 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,440 did you guys get here? Like, which happens a lot, and 793 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,720 then Dan, so Dan's trying to process what is going on. 794 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,480 Meanwhile, this is the different part. 795 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,600 Lam swoops in and then uses weaponized hugging to silence 796 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,560 Phi, which is really fucking funny. 797 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,560 Meanwhile, Nam finally shows up and just stands there awkwardly 798 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,960 and it's like, welcome to the family, Rose. 799 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,400 This is the family you're marrying it to. 800 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,760 They're all crazy. Like what? 801 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,680 An introduction for these characters and for Rose who's 802 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:11,400 meeting them. It was so funny and so OK it 803 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,480 was. A great introduction to the 804 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,960 dynamic that you're that you'll see throughout this show and the 805 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,440 other series between the cousins because first of all, I love 806 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,080 that they just show up out of the blue because there's that 807 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,560 close. I like would love to have a 808 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,560 family like that. I'm sure it gets annoying for 809 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,720 them because we see how it gets annoying because they even 810 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,600 interrupt Din trying to be with Rose. 811 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,040 I'm sure it. Is hilarious too. 812 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,400 But like that dynamic between all of them is just so funny. 813 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,960 Chaotic but loving. You can tell they love each 814 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,440 other so much and that they would do anything for each 815 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,840 other. Like, yeah, I'm getting on this 816 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,000 death trap that she probably thinks it is. 817 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,440 Yes, she definitely does. But she doesn't. 818 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,840 Yeah, exactly. So, But anyway, like, yeah, your 819 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,120 point is very valid. But with the novel, like a lot 820 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,520 of what happens in the novels, like a lot of like bantering. 821 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,520 So a lot of the bantering scenes with them, it does come from the 822 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,160 novel. But like the way it was, this 823 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,880 was acted out with like long like silencing 5. 824 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,720 That was like just in the series. 825 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,000 So like they again, they took like the bantering and then they 826 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,440 expanded on it and made it even funnier because to your point, 827 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,960 you get to see their individual dynamic, their group dynamic. 828 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,120 You have more like body comedy happening with them. 829 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,160 It was really fun. Like I I knew that scene was 830 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,240 going to be funny, but then watch it and I was like, this is 831 00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:44,800 literally this is somehow funnier than it already was. 832 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,360 So like, thank you to the series for like leaning into how funny 833 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,480 the family dynamic is and to your point, showing how 834 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,800 comfortable they are because by is ready to throw hands with 835 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,640 everyone in that scene. And then moms just like and it 836 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,080 does calm her down. Like it works like she knows how 837 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,760 to neutralize the little fire that's going off. 838 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,160 Like so it does show you that like they're not, she wasn't mad 839 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,480 trying to fight long. Like it just goes to show you 840 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,320 like how they like balance all balance each other out. 841 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,840 I just love Nam being awkward. She's like standing there. 842 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,760 She's the most awkward out of all of it. 843 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,920 Like if you think Din's awkward, wait till the water gets going 844 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,880 cuz Nam is the most awkward out of all of them. 845 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,600 And so she's just like standing there. 846 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,360 Like I don't understand any of this and I don't know how to be 847 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,760 a human. Like, it's just, they're all so 848 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,480 funny. And then Den's like, don't 849 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,120 worry, Phi's really a nice person. 850 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,680 And she's like trying to fight Lam in the background and like, 851 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,400 and just like, imagine being Rose in that scene and you're 852 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,440 just like, what is happening? Like who are all these people? 853 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,160 And they're just a lot. This is slightly random, but 854 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:52,960 it's ironic that Lam was able to calm Phi down because air 855 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,920 usually makes fire worse, not calm it down. 856 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,840 And I think it does. So if I had to rank like the 857 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,560 chaoticness of the cousins, the least chaotic is mom because 858 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,680 like water is calm. She's calm. 859 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,960 Water specifically. Then you've Din, who's the 860 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,080 stable earth. OK, so she's she's the least 861 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,520 chaotic, but she is chaotic and it comes from her awkwardness. 862 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,880 Her awkwardness makes her chaotic like in like a golden 863 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,280 retriever kind of way. Then I would, I don't know Lam 864 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,840 and Phi the best, but I'm pretty sure Lam is next as like in 865 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,920 terms of most chaotic. And then the most chaotic I'm 866 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,280 assuming is Phi. Like so those two are the most 867 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,760 chaotic. So yeah, it is funny. 868 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,600 So like, how does she calm her down with more chaos? 869 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,080 Like she's like, let me just strangle you a little. 870 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,520 I'm going to weaponize some hugging and make you stop. 871 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,680 And it works. Oh my gosh, no. 872 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,440 The physicality from Lam is amazing. 873 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:59,160 I love all her choices, free choices that Yeah, like she's so 874 00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:01,880 funny. Make that character 1000 times 875 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,720 better. I I love her so much. 876 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,600 It's my favorite freeing character. 877 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,080 I saying that now, I haven't even seen the show yet. 878 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:17,040 That character is my favorite of hers because she portrays it so 879 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,000 well. She was, I mean, she's able to 880 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,600 have a lot more emotion with this character as well, so. 881 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,680 Yeah, she's not repressed like Pin was or. 882 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,280 And she's able to have. Fun, Yeah, yeah, I've always 883 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,640 said that Freen is a great would be a such a great comedian and 884 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,640 I've been OK, but my dream role is like her and Phi acting in a 885 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,840 fucking comedy together, which we almost had with the earth, 886 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,720 which but whatever. Like she's a hilarious like 887 00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:43,600 actor. So I'm really glad I'm all with 888 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,520 you. I'm glad she's finally at a a 889 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,160 role where she gets to be funny because she is a good comedian. 890 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,480 So I'm very glad she got to like showcase all of that and just go 891 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,680 off with mom because she's she's fucking funny. 892 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,920 Like give her more comedy rolls. She's she kills that she's 893 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,320 fucking funny like as hell. Like I love her. 894 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,120 She has good comedic timing, comedic choices. 895 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,720 Like she's great. The little finger gun thing 896 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:12,640 where she like stabs, like at the first episode there's like 897 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,200 mom, she's like back off bitch. Like that was one of the 898 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,480 funniest. I don't know how much of this 899 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,960 was scripted or they just like, yeah, whatever, because. 900 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,160 I would love to see the script to see like what physicality 901 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,480 stuff is scripted and what is just them playing. 902 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,760 Just doing whatever. Yeah, Because it. 903 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,760 Looks like they were able to play. 904 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,880 I think so. I think a lot of it was improv, 905 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:41,320 to be honest. Oh my gosh, I just, I am so 906 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,760 excited that we get to keep seeing this dynamic over there, 907 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:51,280 three more series because it, it's, it just makes my heart 908 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,120 happy because we're not just losing them. 909 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:57,880 Yes, I agree and then with each series you get the wives get 910 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,440 added in so like the family gets bigger, which is funny. 911 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,720 One thing I will say about the cousins that I think in the 912 00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:09,160 series, I think the writers did a very good job of balancing the 913 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,680 guest appearances with the cousins while focusing primarily 914 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,240 on Roses did and Rosen did because it is their story, 915 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,720 especially because Apple and Mam were a new acting pair. 916 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,600 And so to be like have too much of the big juggernaut actors 917 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:32,480 like Ingfa and and Freeing in it did not take away from their 918 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,720 like Apple and Mims acting. I like showcasing their 919 00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:37,360 characters. So I'm glad they did that they 920 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,320 found a good balance. I think that it helps because 921 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,800 like I'm being in the fandom, like it didn't pick up until 922 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,400 freeing shows up and then people are like Mom and freeing and 923 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,880 like, yeah, so that helps skyrocket the show. 924 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,520 But they didn't do it too much. And I was worried that they were 925 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,520 going to over shadow like the actual main actors and like the 926 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,880 main story and they did it. Like they could have been like, 927 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,000 oh, let's write more scenes for them right to to increase 928 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,920 popularity. Yeah, but yeah, right they. 929 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,320 Could have very easily done that. 930 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:13,320 But they didn't even have them in there for until episode 3. 931 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:20,600 And that that was a great decision to let the sorry Apple 932 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,640 and Mim just breathe on their own and become their own people 933 00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:27,840 that we get introduced to in this show. 934 00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:34,160 And I, I agree it was they, they sprinkled it enough. 935 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,880 I'm surprised that they were in it as much as they were 936 00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:42,200 actually, though not. No, I mean that that goes back 937 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,240 to the novel. So in the novel, Lam is very 938 00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:46,920 much involved with the human trafficking storyline. 939 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,480 So like it did fall. Lam was in it in the first one 940 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,840 of the earlier scenes. So I am surprised they didn't 941 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,400 have her show up earlier because again, the fandom did not start 942 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,800 getting active really until Frame showed up. 943 00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,520 So I'm honestly surprised they didn't put her in there earlier. 944 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,160 But they did like the reveal of her in the motorcycle and being 945 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,800 like, what the fuck took you so long? 946 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,520 I did such an asshole, that scene. 947 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,920 It's really funny. But yeah, so it's true to the 948 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:18,040 novel the way they did it. Speaking of cousins, one of my 949 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,840 last point about the cousins is that one of my favorite 950 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:27,240 relationships in the whole of the story is Phi and Rose's 951 00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,680 relationship. They, they, they. 952 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,320 Probably are my favorite relationship in all of the four 953 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,840 elements because the way it starts is just chaotic. 954 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,640 And then like once it clicks for Phi that like Rose is very 955 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,600 serious about Din and like, loves Din the way she does, 956 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,440 She's like, OK, yeah, I love her forever. 957 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,280 And then Phi is like her number one fan, like the whole time and 958 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,040 my and like so much so that it's I'm like, do you love her more 959 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,040 than Din? Because there's one part where I 960 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,280 think it was the last episode where Din's like, I don't know 961 00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,720 where Rose is and Phi's with her. 962 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,200 And Phi's like, Oh yeah, she's here. 963 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,160 Like she knows where Rose is at all times, like more than Din. 964 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,360 And it's just so funny because she's always keeping tabs on 965 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,600 Rose. And I really think that, like, 966 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,280 her and Rose are like best friends. 967 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,800 And you really can't convince me otherwise just because the way 968 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,200 Phi always knows where Rose is and what she's doing. 969 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,280 And I think it's their relationships are really funny 970 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,360 and cute and I like when they gang up on Din. 971 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,200 I mean, yes, that's always fun, but I think that also just shows 972 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,720 how much she has accepted her into the family because she's 973 00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:31,120 truly protective of her. Like she needs to know where she 974 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,040 is at all times so nothing bad can happen to her. 975 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,480 So I feel like that has just continued even though like, even 976 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,480 after like the danger was eliminated. 977 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,520 Yeah, yeah. It also helps that there are 978 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:51,880 similar ages because like having read the water, like fire 979 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,000 doesn't bond with like Nam's wife the way she does with Rose. 980 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,600 Like she loves Rose like she's always she calls her boss Rose 981 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,960 like all the time. Like still like it's so fucking 982 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:04,680 funny. Like they're just their their 983 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,120 dynamic is really funny and I like that again, in the series 984 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,040 they played into, there's some there's a scene where they're 985 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:15,240 gang up on den and like Rose and fire like inspiring right in 986 00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:17,080 front of them, like in being playful with each other. 987 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,720 And I'm glad they put that in there because their their 988 00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:22,040 friendship is really funny and I and sweet. 989 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,000 And I really like that they put that in there because the way it 990 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,120 starts off was is chaotic, but then like they end up being very 991 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:34,760 good friends. All right, last section I have 992 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,240 is just like a collection of scenes that went down 993 00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:39,520 differently than the novel. I don't know if you have any 994 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,800 other points you'd like to bring. 995 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:47,080 Up I have just like a scene and then a half a point. 996 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:53,280 My half point is that I'm very because it's rare. 997 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,760 Still. I want to give props to the dad 998 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,880 who wanted his daughter to be with whoever she wanted because. 999 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,560 Yes. So often we still get this. 1000 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,840 We are seeing more of like the parents being like, no, you do 1001 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,360 what you want to do, but we still get the no, you will marry 1002 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,720 this person and that. But the the dad really cared 1003 00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:18,880 about what his daughter wanted and what would make her happy. 1004 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:23,520 And that just that made me happy to see and I just love that. 1005 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,080 So props to him. And it was never a. 1006 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:33,640 Rose's dad, you mean? Yes, Rose's dad and also 1007 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:39,320 something is like, it was never an issue that there was two 1008 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,440 women wanting to be together. It was the issue was just that 1009 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,680 Din, like with Wasu and his family, it wasn't the issue that 1010 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,640 there was two women. It was that it's Din and like he 1011 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,840 just wants to be with Rose because of the land. 1012 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,600 Yes. So I like that that was it. 1013 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,200 It wasn't the two women aspect of it. 1014 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:05,080 And then the scene that I want to talk about is with Modang 1015 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,800 actually and love. Modang just a joke. 1016 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,360 Love yes, I love Modang, especially with the way that she 1017 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:18,840 set quote modest pyjamas for. The lingerie. 1018 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,760 She's an idiot. Before I get into the. 1019 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,640 Series. I did have a question did Modang 1020 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,120 ever Like when did they tell MO Dang that the wedding was fake 1021 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,200 because we just see her at the second wedding but I don't think 1022 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,440 we ever see her find out that the. 1023 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,360 Wedding. I don't think they ever tell 1024 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,960 everybody that it's fake. To be honest, I don't know that 1025 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,440 they just. Get married again. 1026 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,520 Yeah, well, cuz The thing is like Rose's dad wasn't at the 1027 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,320 original wedding, so it could very easily that they're just 1028 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,960 like, well we're going to redo it so that Rose's dad is here 1029 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,200 because like he mental, he was like surrogate dad to Den and 1030 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,200 then like actual dad to Rose. So it could be that that's just 1031 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,880 what they told people because they never dissolved the 1032 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,160 marriage contract. The marriage contract is in 1033 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,240 place the whole fucking time. Like they don't actually get 1034 00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:14,560 divorced and they get married. Like they just do the separation 1035 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,200 thing and then, which was done better in the novel, by the way. 1036 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:23,080 And then they, yeah, just have another ceremony where Rose's 1037 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,080 dad gets to be there. And in the novel specifically, 1038 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,920 they're like, it's, it was literally just like the cousins 1039 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,760 and like the dad. It wasn't this big. 1040 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,600 There wasn't a ton of people. I feel like in the novel, 1041 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,920 they're just like, wrap up party. 1042 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,280 Everyone's here. But that is not what they did in 1043 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,520 the novel. They're just like, we're going 1044 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,640 to do this for us. And so that like our families 1045 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,440 are here watching us get married for real. 1046 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,120 So I don't think they ever told anybody else that like that was 1047 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,480 a fake marriage. I just feel like out of 1048 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,800 everybody, MO Dang deserved to know. 1049 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,640 Yeah, that. She is a big mouth though, like 1050 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,360 she would have told other people 100% which is why you can't like 1051 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:05,000 but like she's so close with them that I feel like she 1052 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,520 deserves to know but that's what was going on. 1053 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,440 But then I feel like. She'd be hurt too, so it's like 1054 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,120 a. Catch 22 if you tell her, but I 1055 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,000 don't know, I just kind of wish she knew. 1056 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,560 And I wish we got that scene. They could have been like, all 1057 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,320 right, the wedding's fake. She's like, what do you mean you 1058 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,360 don't actually like each other? And then like she's panicking 1059 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,440 and then they're like, no, we're actually together still. 1060 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,280 There's no way. Monet would believe that because 1061 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,800 she's like, you guys have been in love with each other for 1062 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,280 years. She clocked them a she's like, 1063 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,320 that's not true. Like, you guys love each other, 1064 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,400 right? Exactly. 1065 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,640 Which was true so. But my favorite, one of my 1066 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:46,000 favorite Modang scenes is when Rose and her dad and Modang are 1067 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,120 in Bangkok. And that scene again, with Din 1068 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,400 trying to like, come and give food and like, Modang has to 1069 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,240 pretend like she won the lottery. 1070 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,880 That was crazy. And the fact, hold on, like the 1071 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:05,280 fact that Modang spends her own money on Rose to show her like 1072 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,200 how much she like loves her and like appreciates her is so sweet 1073 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,960 when you know like Rose could just afford it. 1074 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,720 I know, I know, there are sour dolls there. 1075 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,520 Yeah, but like, Modang being that sweet is adorable, all 1076 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,720 right. But in the scene, Rose and Din 1077 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,400 are like both trying to give each other quote time. 1078 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:32,800 And I love the way when MO Dang is like, what, a gentlewoman, 1079 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,160 and you are also trying to give her time. 1080 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,800 Miss Rose wants to give you time and then she gets all serious. 1081 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,280 It's such a waste of time. Yeah. 1082 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,680 And I just love how she's like tells it like it is to Ding. 1083 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,040 She's like I'm sick of this. You guys need to just get 1084 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,640 together, figure your shit out because you are supposed to be 1085 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,160 together. The time giving each other time 1086 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,480 is a waste of time because you don't need time. 1087 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,720 You're you're. You're like destined for each 1088 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,920 other or something like that, yeah. 1089 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,880 No, that that conversation is not in the novel, and I'm glad 1090 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,640 they put it in there because if you watch that scene when Modang 1091 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,000 is like, oh, you're such a gentlewoman. 1092 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,280 Didn't didn't like puffs her chest and she's like, yes, I am. 1093 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,080 She's she's trying to be the gentlewoman and then modags 1094 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,480 like, but by not talking, you're not resolving this. 1095 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,360 So then when are you going to resolve this? 1096 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,600 Because you're both avoiding each other because you respect 1097 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,160 each other, but then nothing is happening. 1098 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,080 So like go fucking talk to That's what you say. 1099 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,400 She's like, go talk. That's you guys need to talk to 1100 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,080 resolve this, but no ones talking. 1101 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,160 So this is a waste of time. Yeah, I thought it was really 1102 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,080 great because, yeah, it does go down a little bit differently in 1103 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,000 the novel, which, again, check out the book club for that 1104 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,120 because it's it's either scenario is funny, which is 1105 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,920 different the way it goes down. But I'm glad that Moden got to 1106 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,920 put that in there because like, that is the character flaw of 1107 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,280 like, being too chivalrous that she's pointing out and then 1108 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,000 being too considerate. She's like, you guys need to 1109 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,400 like balance each other out by talking because otherwise you're 1110 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,200 just avoiding each other by being too considerate of the 1111 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,240 other person. And then it's like avoidance, 1112 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,840 which is the the, the flip side of that. 1113 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,280 Right. So, yeah, that was a great 1114 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,360 scene. I'm glad Modan said that. 1115 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,480 But just Dan was so funny because she's like, yeah, you're 1116 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,680 complimenting me. And then he's like, you're being 1117 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,240 an idiot by doing this. Dan's like, damn, so stupid. 1118 01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,760 I love Jen. She's so stupid, but in an 1119 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,200 enduring way. Oh, yeah. 1120 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,400 I have one more point before I get into other scenes. 1121 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,680 One thing I thought was really funny, like ironic funny is that 1122 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,800 Rose makes this huge point of being like, I'm a modern woman. 1123 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,440 I'm not because like, remember when they they they get married 1124 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,920 in the beginning and mode or she's thinking of marrying dead 1125 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,120 or whatever and mode he's like, oh, if you don't love her now, 1126 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,920 you love her eventually. That's like kind of what 1127 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,600 marriage is sometimes. And Rose is like, I'm a modern 1128 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:48,600 woman. I'm a Gen. 1129 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,800 Z mode. I need to be a love first. 1130 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:53,880 So she's like, I'm not old fashioned at all. 1131 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,400 And then she marries Din. Din is the most old fashioned 1132 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,680 person. Din, the woman who's like, I 1133 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,840 can't have sex with you until your dad agrees to let me marry 1134 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,920 you. I'm like, that's who you end up 1135 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,360 with. And then she's like being like, 1136 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,880 I'm a modern woman. And like Din is not a modern 1137 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,440 person. Din's very old. 1138 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,520 Din's like a very old school, like chivalrous like type of 1139 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,760 person. And like, that's who Rose falls 1140 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,960 in love with. And she's like, I'm a modern 1141 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,360 woman. I'm like, OK, Rose. 1142 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,320 Are you though? Are you Rose? 1143 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,520 It just makes me funny because it's like everything about Rose 1144 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,880 is very traditional. It's not actually modern. 1145 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,000 Like Rose is like the housewife that brings Den lunch on her 1146 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,040 lunch break and Den's the breadwinner. 1147 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,080 Like they fit a traditional like rolls. 1148 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,520 And then so it just makes me laugh that that's what that's 1149 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,640 what Rose is saying. I'm pretty sure Monet rolls her 1150 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,400 eyes at that. She's like, OK, Rose sure. 1151 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:48,600 Usually. Look at the mirror girl. 1152 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,760 OK, all right, scenes, other scenes that went down 1153 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,920 differently than the novel that were either enhanced or I 1154 01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,000 thought were kind of funny. So Din and Rosa's accidental 1155 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,960 first kiss. OK, so this happened at the 1156 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,360 wedding. We all remember that when Din 1157 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,960 passes out. So this does not happen. 1158 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,520 OK, So in both the series and the novel, the way it goes down 1159 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:16,760 is they they get married, they're standing up there and 1160 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,360 then MO Dang and the cousins in fact instigate the the kiss 1161 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:25,560 chanting, leaving Din and Rose altar or whatever, being like, 1162 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,360 what do we do? And Din, of course, if Din 1163 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,960 freezes in both instances because she does not know what 1164 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,760 to do because they didn't think this part of the wedding through 1165 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,920 apparently. And in the novel, Rose is the 1166 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,240 one that takes charge and she's like, I guess I have to do 1167 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,040 something because Din's useless. And so she kisses Din on the 1168 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,920 cheek in the novel and leaves the lipstick print which comes 1169 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,720 up in the the novel a bunch of times. 1170 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,680 And in the series it happens the same way where Rose is like I 1171 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:53,400 guess I have to take action because dens useless. 1172 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,680 And then she goes to kiss Din on the cheek, but the Din awkwardly 1173 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,200 moves her head at the last second. 1174 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,360 And then they accidentally kiss each other, which leads to big 1175 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,880 gay panic and so much so that didn't passes out. 1176 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,440 And then it's hilarious though, because the cousins rushed to 1177 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,040 Din. Some of them were laughing be 1178 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,880 like she's an idiot. And then Phi screaming don't die 1179 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,840 Din. And like so the way they acted 1180 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,400 it out was actually pretty funny. 1181 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,200 But like that is not what happened. 1182 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,560 But it was really fucking funny the way they chose to execute 1183 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,280 this. So I'm not mad at this change 1184 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,440 and actually is again the season the cousins they somehow made 1185 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:29,920 funnier than they originally were. 1186 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,920 And this was a great example. If I screaming don't die. 1187 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,680 Dan was one of the funniest fucking and the Rosa just 1188 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:36,880 laughing. She's like I married this 1189 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,400 fucking idiot. Look at this. 1190 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,760 I did that. I did this. 1191 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,280 I did this. I made her pass out. 1192 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,240 So fucking funny. OK, I went over the drunk make 1193 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,280 out sessions. Other thing is their honeymoon. 1194 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,720 So after that, when that like the, yeah, the actual, the fake 1195 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,840 honeymoon at Nam's resort, most of that was brand new. 1196 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,320 So like the massage lesson, that whole thing where Din's like 1197 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,040 basically motor boarding Rose during the massage, that was 1198 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,920 hysterical. I don't know who chose to do 1199 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:19,120 that, but that was ridiculous. That whole scene, the massage, 1200 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,280 it was so ridiculous. It was so ridiculous. 1201 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,280 Dan was so funny in that scene. That was crazy. 1202 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,720 What a funny scenario. Like, I feel like they're just 1203 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,120 like, what could they do? That would be ridiculous? 1204 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,840 And honestly, that was a funny choice. 1205 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,760 They did not. They did not do that in the 1206 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,080 book. Whoever came up with that was a 1207 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,720 genius because I would have never thought for that to be a 1208 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,360 lesson. That was so fucking funny. 1209 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,520 Other thing that was different, that was not ridiculous, but 1210 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,160 really sweet was the fireworks where Din arranges the 1211 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,040 fireworks. And I thought that was really 1212 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,360 first of all, you're in visual media. 1213 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,840 So like that was great. Like you can do that and it 1214 01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,600 comes across really well visually, but also like it's it 1215 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:05,440 was just a very sweet gesture. And again, a good visualization 1216 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,920 for us and Rose of just like how much Din cares about Rose 1217 01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,880 because like Din ultimately was like, I want you to have fun and 1218 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,680 make this a good memory regardless of what the outcome 1219 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,240 is with this whole marriage thing. 1220 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,080 Like I want you to have fun and enjoy yourself. 1221 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,160 And like she goes through all of these efforts, like to make sure 1222 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,320 that that happened with literal fireworks. 1223 01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:29,120 Like I really like that. All right. 1224 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:33,760 And my last one is when Din confesses to her cousins that 1225 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:38,480 she likes Rose for real. All right, I love that scene. 1226 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,480 It's a great scene. What was it went pretty 1227 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,840 similarly. What was different in the novel 1228 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,080 is that Nam's also there when this happens. 1229 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,480 So in the series, it's just Phi and Lam. 1230 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,920 And I think that really comes down to the waters filming 1231 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,800 schedule. And like, Ingvo's busy. 1232 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:55,920 Ingvo's always busy. So like, I think they just 1233 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,080 couldn't get her, which is a shame because during that scene 1234 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,160 in the novel, she says one of the fucking funniest lines in 1235 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,840 the history of this book series. And like, it's a shame she 1236 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,560 wasn't there, but it's like not a huge deal because like a 1237 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,480 friend's fucking funny. And like, so they they did it 1238 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,320 very similarly, but like Nam was missing and I was like, damn, 1239 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,920 man, I'm not going to get my favorite line because she's not 1240 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:21,240 here, but not a huge deal, but still very, very funny. 1241 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,000 So I love them giving, giving den. 1242 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:29,200 I love when den's like do not approve, like no den. 1243 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,960 We can all see it from space. Girl, you're the only one that 1244 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,200 didn't know. We knew that that fake wedding 1245 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,120 wasn't a fake one. Exactly. 1246 01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,760 Amazing. Such an amazing show. 1247 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,000 It was an amazing, amazing show. And one thing I like about the 1248 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,960 story that it comes from the novel, but like, they did it in 1249 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,120 the series too. It was like, I think Salman did 1250 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,600 a good job of like advertising the next book in the book. 1251 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,560 And so I like at the end with the wedding where like Nam gets 1252 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,160 the bouquet. First of all, Nam being herself 1253 01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,280 who's like on a work call, not paying attention to Jim's 1254 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,400 wedding. And then, like, mom's like and 1255 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,000 like throws the bouquet at her and like, it's a great. 1256 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,640 It's a great. And they do the thing where they 1257 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,640 linger on Nam and she's looking at the flowers being like, so 1258 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,960 they salmon did a good job of just being like next time on the 1259 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,800 four. Oh, it's it's not like I like 1260 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,279 the way she kind of like sets up her next novel, like very 1261 01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:27,040 sneakily. It's good advertising. 1262 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,600 And I'm glad the show did that too because it makes people 1263 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,040 curious to be like, what is her story going to be like? 1264 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,479 She looks like a disaster. You're right. 1265 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,200 Yeah, it does, doesn't it? It sure does. 1266 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,160 Oh my gosh, it's so good. So good. 1267 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,359 That's a really great show. I think it's very rewatchable. 1268 01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:53,920 It's very sweet. And like you said, it's not. 1269 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,680 We don't get more seasons, but we do continue the story with 1270 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,760 the next cousin and we'll get guest appearances from 1271 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,439 characters we already know and love. 1272 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,720 And I think that's probably the best thing about this, and 1273 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,840 that's probably the best thing about the book series because 1274 01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,200 you keep like doing the Ciao Flanoy novels and you'd have 1275 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,279 like, oh, there's big Nog again. Like just showing up the other 1276 01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:16,960 stories, which is fun because you already know the character. 1277 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,640 And that's my favorite part of having multiple series in a 1278 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,279 television show. That's my favorite part about 1279 01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:23,760 having book trilogy's. You already know the characters, 1280 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,120 you're invested and get to see them again. 1281 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,279 So I like that. I'm hoping this model sticks 1282 01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:32,640 where we can get more things where there's interconnectivity 1283 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,120 and like you get the same. Actors too, yeah. 1284 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,520 That's the big thing. Like my favorite part about this 1285 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,880 especially is that we get the same actor playing the 1286 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:47,040 character, whereas before it was like different actors playing 1287 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:52,279 same characters, which was fine, but because like, that's that's 1288 01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:54,440 fine. It's believable still, but I 1289 01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:58,400 really enjoy getting to know the character and the person playing 1290 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,600 the character in their mannerisms and just following 1291 01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,320 that and just having these like little crossovers with each 1292 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,960 series. Even though it's like a set, 1293 01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,920 like a standalone story itself, just having that personality 1294 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:18,200 come in and out is. Just it's better continuity is 1295 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:19,480 the thing. Yeah. 1296 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,880 And thank you, North Star for doing this, honestly, because 1297 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:28,440 Idol Factory fucked you up and you're killing it. 1298 01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:32,960 It's it's going well so far. All right, I think that's all we 1299 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,760 got for why we love the four, not the four elevens, why we 1300 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,000 love the earth specifically. So before we jump into our 1301 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,160 listener comments, big gay energy awards. 1302 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:45,520 So what gets your big gay energy award for the Earth? 1303 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:51,040 I'm going to give it a big gay chaotic energy award because I'm 1304 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,280 going to give it to Din fainting after the kiss at the. 1305 01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,400 Wedding amazing. Yeah, that was great. 1306 01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,760 Din is an idiot. He loved Din, so that was great. 1307 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,800 I'm going to give my Big Gay Energy award to Din and Rose for 1308 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,720 separate reasons. So first we'll start with Rose. 1309 01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:13,440 So drunk Rose topping Din and then using Din's words against 1310 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:15,840 her where she says if anything happens, let's just say it's 1311 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,520 because I'm drunk. Like that was big gay energy. 1312 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,040 She used the words right back at her, which is great. 1313 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:27,120 And for Din, it's girlfriend Din literally stealing watermelon 1314 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,920 from Rose's mouth when she was kissing her. 1315 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,200 That was that had a lot of big gay energy that seemed right. 1316 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,120 That like, where did you learn how to do that? 1317 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:40,520 That was amazing. Seriously. 1318 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:41,600 Seriously. Where did you learn? 1319 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,080 That. That is a great question. 1320 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,400 I didn't know how to do damn big energy lesbian. 1321 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:50,480 Jesus was speaking to Earth, that's all. 1322 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:54,280 There's a lot of resolution. Mom was like, here's some tips 1323 01:11:55,480 --> 01:11:58,680 for the future. Oh my God, yeah, either give, I 1324 01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,120 mean, lesbian Jesus basically long. 1325 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:04,600 So yeah, backtracks. What Taylor Swift song do you 1326 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:10,040 have for the Earth? All right, I picked safe and 1327 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:18,320 sound for this show. All right, and because be OK. 1328 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:23,160 So I picked that song because of Din always protecting Rose and 1329 01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,920 like, yes, Rose is capable, but she always wants to be like, 1330 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,360 don't worry, like I'm here, I will protect you. 1331 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,520 That's true. Like especially in the song, 1332 01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,760 it's like just close your eyes. The sun is going down. 1333 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,600 You'll be all right. No one can hurt you. 1334 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,120 Now come morning light you and all be safe and sound. 1335 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,320 So like, what if they're together? 1336 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,720 They're safe. Yeah, that's true. 1337 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,320 Yeah, and then like there's literally a war going on outside 1338 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,440 and. Yeah, there's so much, 1339 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:59,280 unfortunately, that turns. All right, that's a good one. 1340 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,120 I'm gonna give it to today was a fairy tale because I think that 1341 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:06,560 encapsulates their twenty year history, especially the lions. 1342 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:10,480 You or the Prince, Den? I used to be the damsel in 1343 01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:12,720 distress. So that's baby Rose, baby Den. 1344 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,680 Nothing made sense till the time I saw your face. 1345 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,360 Today was a fairy tale. That's kind of like coming back 1346 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,920 into the present and then time slows down whenever you're 1347 01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,720 around. I feel like that's did and rose 1348 01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,240 a lot of the time where like they're they're kind of like 1349 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,520 they get hyper focused on each other and like the rest of the 1350 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,880 world drowns out. That's very dim and Rose. 1351 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,040 That's why the cousins can always sneak up on them. 1352 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,360 Feel like you guys are idiots. That's and that's how their 1353 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,400 relationship progressed within two months because time slowed 1354 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,080 down whenever they're together. Exactly. 1355 01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:47,200 So I think that's very much, it's very like peak romance song 1356 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,080 and that's definitely their story. 1357 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:53,440 It's very peak romance. Yeah, that's a great one too. 1358 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,920 OK, so before we get into listener comments, we're going 1359 01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,480 to take a break to give some shout outs to our Chaos crew 1360 01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:05,200 over on Patreon. Our Chaos Crew members on the 1361 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,920 big Gay writer died tier and above are Amex, Monzone under 1362 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:13,000 Score Multi and Andres BJR, Brianna H, Caroline R, Danny 1363 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,680 Isla Here for it JP, Jasmine O, Jill L, Cassie M, Kelsey S, 1364 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,840 Kenzie Leona Leona, Michelle G, Monet F. 1365 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:25,400 Moving forward leading Nancy D, Puja S, Regina B, and Sarah B. 1366 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,120 And our featured Big Gay supportive members for this 1367 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:34,640 episode are Shima B, Christina T and Naya or NIA, but I think 1368 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:38,160 it's Naya. Either way, thank you. 1369 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,880 Thank you so much for all of your support and thank you to 1370 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,960 everyone watching or listening to this right now. 1371 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:49,400 Just by watching, listening to this podcast, you are supporting 1372 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:50,800 us. If you want to support us a 1373 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:55,040 little more and you can't join Patreon, that's totally fine. 1374 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,800 If you just share this episode with somebody, like if you can 1375 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,440 subscribe, follow, do whatever you can on the platform that you 1376 01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:06,520 are watching or listening to this right now, that would be 1377 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,720 amazing. If you are listening to this and 1378 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,960 want to leave a review, you could do that on Apple Podcast 1379 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,080 or Pod Chaser, wherever you can leave a review. 1380 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,280 That would be beneficial as well. 1381 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,320 And you can also let us know feedback if what you want us to 1382 01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:26,120 cover and like what should we do on the podcast? 1383 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,400 That's where you should leave it anyway. 1384 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,360 Also, come join our Discord where you can talk to us and 1385 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,040 other queer media lovers about four Elements and all the stuff 1386 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:40,040 going on right now, because there's so much coming out and 1387 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,240 there are a bunch of people over there just excited to scream 1388 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,040 about it with other people who love it as well. 1389 01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:47,840 Yeah, go make some friends and have some fun. 1390 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:53,680 That's what this is all. About All right now, let's get 1391 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:57,000 into listener comments. All right, let's start with 1392 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,160 Patreon. So first up we have Rayna W who 1393 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,200 writes this show really surprised me. 1394 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,960 Apple and men really knocked it out of the park. 1395 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,280 I love seeing their chemistry grow with each episode. 1396 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,200 I love how the show slowly built their relationship. 1397 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,480 Also how they weaved in the cousins. 1398 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,000 I love how the show show showcases the love of family, 1399 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:17,760 especially when it's all queer women. 1400 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,800 It's so rare to see. That's so true. 1401 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,040 They are all really gay and it's lovely. 1402 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,160 I love that all the cousins are queer. 1403 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,560 All of them are super gay. All of them. 1404 01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,920 All of them. All right, next comments from 1405 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,560 Cassie M. And they said it's an all around 1406 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,920 well made girl love with locations that have not been 1407 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,560 filmed to death already and under fuses direction. 1408 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:45,080 Both newcomers like Mim and veteran shine, especially the 1409 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:49,440 cousins which we'll also see and the other elements bring chaotic 1410 01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:52,520 fun to the series. Din is the gold stander of a 1411 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,560 useless lesbian and Rose was actually cheeky and liked to 1412 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,480 tease Din a lot. As I like the water and the air 1413 01:16:59,480 --> 01:17:01,920 the novels even more. I'm looking forward to those 1414 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,360 series as well. My favorite character is MO 1415 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:09,120 Dang, the ultimate shipper which Lam and Phi with Lam and Phi 1416 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,200 closely behind her. It's still early in the year, 1417 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,320 but the earth is currently my #1 Thai girl of of 2020. 1418 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:19,600 Six, Yeah, It's fair to say that's a good choice. 1419 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,600 That's a good choice. I will say my gold standard for 1420 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,040 useless lesbian is Anksa. Still, I think Anksa is more 1421 01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:29,120 useless than this. At least capable. 1422 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,520 She shows up with a weapon to defend. 1423 01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,200 Yeah, defend Rose. I don't think Anksa's doing 1424 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,440 Anksa. Would probably end up getting 1425 01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:39,760 human trafficked honestly I think. 1426 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:41,760 Anksa would have got. She would. 1427 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,400 She would have answered the the ad for the job right? 1428 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,840 Totally unaware of anything she would. 1429 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,560 Have I've gotten in there? I'm like, fuck. 1430 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,640 Or she'd like go to save Rose and crash the car by accident. 1431 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,880 Like I think is worse. But you know, I loved it. 1432 01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,640 Dan's definitely up there. She's pretty useful. 1433 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,520 She would have hit Wasu's car, yeah. 1434 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:09,560 Like oh shit, crazy. I love on so on so you little 1435 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:14,920 legend out there. See that that show 23 point. 5 1436 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,440 has stood the test of time. That's all I'm saying. 1437 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,520 That means it's a good show. All right, Next up we have Zori 1438 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,920 M who writes about why they love the earth. 1439 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,080 It had everything, action, romance and comedy. 1440 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:29,480 Yes, I like that the villains actually got their comeuppance. 1441 01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:31,520 And the subtle symbolisms in the show. 1442 01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:35,560 For example, when Rose's father says that a rose will protect 1443 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,640 themselves when they sense danger. 1444 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,840 And then in later episode, Cow was picking up a rose and it 1445 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,120 pricked her suddenly telling us that she is the mole. 1446 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:44,760 Oh damn, that was good. Damn. 1447 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,280 Good catch Zori. Damn, shit. 1448 01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:51,360 Damn. Huh. 1449 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,800 That's really good. Great job. 1450 01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,800 Sorry. Good job Patreon, way to be 1451 01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,080 better at the summer you are good job. 1452 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:07,600 All right next to comment is from K Yoshi and they said I 1453 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,040 loved everything about it. Solid plot, terrific acting, 1454 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,040 plenty of drama, a little too much at times but still pretty 1455 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,440 good. They chaos cousins and most of 1456 01:19:16,440 --> 01:19:19,640 all Din's character. The interaction between all the 1457 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,560 characters was great and it's beautifully shot. 1458 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,480 Just enjoy to watch. I'll miss it. 1459 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,520 It was beautiful. It was a beautiful show, period. 1460 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:27,960 That, that was a good point. Beautiful. 1461 01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,560 All right, then we got Amix, Monzone, under score multi who 1462 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:37,480 writes because we love characters with actual survival 1463 01:19:37,480 --> 01:19:39,680 instincts. That's so true. 1464 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,720 They do have survival instincts, yes. 1465 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,600 I love Rose's fierce personality, especially in 1466 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,600 contrast with dork that is Dan. Yeah, it does make him a fun 1467 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,600 couple. Amex. 1468 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,560 That's a really good point. And then Amex continues. 1469 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,440 Plus dot, dot, dot the chaos cousins. 1470 01:19:57,480 --> 01:19:58,440 Yeah. Who do you not love them. 1471 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,520 Also, we love a supportive father. 1472 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,920 Yeah, we. All of those are facts. 1473 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:07,840 You're just saying. All right, next is from white 1474 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:13,440 cat 112, who says because we got the Phi yelling P dim meme. 1475 01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:18,160 Yeah, actually, honestly, the show is very memeable and don't 1476 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:23,320 dive in iconic behavior. Thank you, white cat. 1477 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,800 Next up, we have Q432. Great. 1478 01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:31,040 Salman has created a great story facts and the show adopted it 1479 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,920 beautifully. Production team did a great job 1480 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,520 in scouting locations. That leads us to into newer side 1481 01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,800 of Thailand landscape. Yeah, we got to see the North, 1482 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,920 which was nice. Although Apple and Mim were last 1483 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,480 to join the Four Elements project and had the least prep 1484 01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:46,400 time as the Earth was first in line. 1485 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,560 That's a really good point. They had the yeah prep time. 1486 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,920 That's damn. They both did a phenomenal job 1487 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,760 in portraying Din and Rose. Their chemistry was slowly built 1488 01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,960 up each episode. You root for these two to get 1489 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,320 together just like Modang. We are. 1490 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:04,840 We are all Modang in the audience. 1491 01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,880 Sin emerges as a standout lead, blending quiet strength, 1492 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,560 emotional depth, and subtle romance. 1493 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,160 Rose's rational logic and fierce. 1494 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,800 They bring out the best in each other. 1495 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:19,720 Modang is the ultimate shipper. After Bach, Modang is my next 1496 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,600 favorite like side character. Yeah that's valid. 1497 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,640 Last but not least, the chaos cousins. 1498 01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:27,760 They are the cutest and pure chaos. 1499 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:34,520 I can never forget Phi's peeden. It's it's iconic. 1500 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,320 The villains in the story made sense. 1501 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:39,400 Yeah. Can we add that they weren't 1502 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,920 character picture villains. They were actually villains with 1503 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,720 a unfortunately logical, like motivation. 1504 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,840 Yeah, yeah. Overall, it was fun to watch. 1505 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,600 And I can't wait for the next loser cousin. 1506 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,760 Not yet, Not not as not as up there as a loser. 1507 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,160 Big energy. Oh, the big energy word for them 1508 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,240 is MO Dang teaching Rose the 3A's. 1509 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,560 That was fucking hilarious. MO Dang's dating advice was Oh 1510 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:11,240 my God, yes, thank you Q432. That gets a lot of big energy 1511 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,120 and they're Taylor Swift songs for the Earther. 1512 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,640 You are in love. Paper rings of lover. 1513 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,880 All of us. All of us also. 1514 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,720 I love that you play along with our stuff. 1515 01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,680 The Lover album is basically Lover, yeah. 1516 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:31,440 All right, next is from BJR who says I really like one behind 1517 01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:33,960 the scenes story. Even I could tell that Mim was 1518 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,240 struggling as an actor in some scenes during the early 1519 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:37,920 episodes. I could not by the way. 1520 01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,280 She had virtually no acting experience and was thrown into a 1521 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,920 major production as a Co lead. At first the team around her 1522 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,720 made it work, but by the end, with everyone's help, she is a 1523 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,120 solid actor. Apple knew what she was doing, 1524 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:53,840 choosing her. Also internally to the story, 1525 01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,520 the villains were all about revenge. 1526 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,000 They were willing to kidnap and kill to to get even with 1527 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,160 perceived slights. The main heroes especially 1528 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,680 didn't just forgive. The heroes generally blame 1529 01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,600 themselves instead of others. No redemption arcs are needed 1530 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,280 for cow etcetera. Even though some occur. 1531 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,240 That is a moral statement that many viewers, slasher viewers 1532 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,360 don't appear to understand or accept. 1533 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,120 I even have trouble with it, but it is powerful. 1534 01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,760 From various sources, I get a feeling that that some people 1535 01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:24,920 skipped the Earth because it didn't have an established 1536 01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,280 acting pairing. That was certainly a mistake. 1537 01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,200 Yes, I you can't, you cannot save that enough. 1538 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,960 Like I don't understand that mentality and I know. 1539 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:36,480 Yeah, especially if you're planning on watching any of the 1540 01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:38,760 four elements like you watch all of it. 1541 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:42,680 That just makes sense. That makes no sense. 1542 01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:47,400 But yeah, that's why I think there was like, not a lot of 1543 01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,840 activity until mom shows up, until the big names show up, 1544 01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:52,880 then suddenly everyone's watching it. 1545 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,360 Yeah. But like, how do these big names 1546 01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,120 become big names? That's what I'm saying. 1547 01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,600 You watch the shows, right? Did you not watch Gap because 1548 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:01,920 you didn't know who freed Becky was? 1549 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,760 Like that's so weird I. Feel like everyone started 1550 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,080 watching gap when they kept getting like us. 1551 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,680 Like watch gap. Watch gap, Watch gap. 1552 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,480 No, no, I'm kidding. Right, but that's like as if 1553 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,960 everybody had that mentality again, free and Becky wouldn't 1554 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:18,920 be free and Becky because nobody would have watched gap because 1555 01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:23,600 they're like who are these people anyway? 1556 01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,880 That's that's wild. People are dumb. 1557 01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,680 If you're if you are watching this for some reason because you 1558 01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,480 didn't watch it because like, I don't get that. 1559 01:24:31,480 --> 01:24:34,560 But I'm glad people gave it a chance eventually because like 1560 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:38,360 it's the show is good. The show is really good. 1561 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,520 The show is more than just the actors. 1562 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,800 All right, thank you, Patreon. Now we'll move over to Twitter 1563 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,080 to see what's going on over there. 1564 01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,080 And 1st, we're going to start with the incredible novel 1565 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:53,960 written by Crimson Lotus, AKA I assume Crimson Studios from 1566 01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,880 YouTube. I realized too late that I never 1567 01:24:55,880 --> 01:25:00,680 posted this on on YouTube. Oh no, I apologize everyone, I 1568 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,080 thought. Glad you found it. 1569 01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,320 Yeah, thanks for commenting on Twitter, which I is more 1570 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,800 annoying when you're trying to like give a giant comment, so I 1571 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:14,520 apologize. OK, so why does Crimson love the 1572 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,160 Earth? The cousins, that is. 1573 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,880 The correct answer may continue. Salmon is back at it again with 1574 01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,160 a fantastic adaptation of one of their novels after Queendom. 1575 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,040 And as expected, the Earth was as funny as Queendom quote the 1576 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,040 novel. But what I didn't expect was 1577 01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,120 human trafficking. You're not alone. 1578 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,920 Then again, I didn't know anything else about the plot 1579 01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:36,760 other than the fact that the four novels were about four 1580 01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:38,480 cousins. And here's the thing. 1581 01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:41,120 When I first heard this, I thought the cousins being 1582 01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,640 cousins was just going to be a background lore detail, 1583 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,240 parentheses. I would have liked that, but 1584 01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:48,480 it's usually how it doesn't media. 1585 01:25:48,480 --> 01:25:50,120 Yeah, exactly. I also agree. 1586 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,680 I thought they were just going to be like they're related and 1587 01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,320 then you kind of just like move on. 1588 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,320 Crimson continues. Never expected fun, funny, 1589 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,760 well-rounded group of siblings that got one another to back. 1590 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,440 Like honestly half the stuff that happened couldn't have 1591 01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:09,680 happened if it wasn't for long. She truly was the MVP of this 1592 01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,600 whole thing. Fi is still my favorite though. 1593 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,920 Girl same. Fi I think is my favorite of all 1594 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,000 of them but I know the least about her. 1595 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:18,560 But I think Fi might be my favorite too. 1596 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,800 Something I noticed about salmon, they seem to like using 1597 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:28,040 foils, like how Ray is a perfect foil for print in Queendom for 1598 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,640 example, to the point they even transferred to the series that 1599 01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,840 didn't have much in common with the original novel. 1600 01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,160 And I'm still currently reading the water. 1601 01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:41,040 And Lada is also a clear foil for Oppo AKA Nom in the Earth. 1602 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,640 It's Rose and Din, but it's actually Din in Wasu and you can 1603 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,520 notice it best in the 1st 2 episodes like Caleb pointed out 1604 01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,680 and how both of them treat Rose. People make fun of how 1605 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,360 respectful Din is but I personally think it's the point. 1606 01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:58,640 And I am with you, Crimson. Din respects Rose, her 1607 01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,800 boundaries, and her choices, no matter what they are, and even 1608 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,400 if they aren't in Din's favor parentheses. 1609 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:06,600 She would get along well with Kieran. 1610 01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:11,200 Oh my God, my adorable love of my life, Kieran from Oh my God, 1611 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,040 they would be. Do so well together too. 1612 01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:18,080 They would be chaotic fools, but oh, seeing those two together 1613 01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:19,800 would be fun. Kieran is also up there with 1614 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,480 useless lesbians. Kieran is pretty fucking 1615 01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:25,560 useless. I love that idiot with 1616 01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,560 everything. All right, sorry, Crimson. 1617 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,160 It continues. While while Sue wants to dictate 1618 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,240 what Rose thinks and do and see Rose as an object. 1619 01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:36,160 It's almost like you're saying, Crimson, that it's like feminine 1620 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:41,600 energy versus masculine energy. Like he feels like he gets to 1621 01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:46,080 control the women and then it's like she's a person. 1622 01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,800 Just saying Crimson continues and Queen and print having what 1623 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,800 Ray lacked help Ray grow to a better version of Ray. 1624 01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,400 While here Salmon use the same writing technique to tell you. 1625 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:01,040 You see how awful this dude is. My dad is nothing like him, 1626 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:02,720 which helps the viewer. Root. 1627 01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,920 For Den back to the water, I feel like Sean Liddell will be 1628 01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,160 more like Ray. I don't know, I haven't 1629 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,760 continued yet. My guess is that as good as 1630 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,000 yours shrug emoji. Sorry for bringing up Salmon's 1631 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:16,600 works. I just think it's interesting to 1632 01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:21,080 compare and contrast with other works and maybe getting a few 1633 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:22,240 people interested in reading Queen of. 1634 01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,680 I'm one of those people. I plan on reading the Queen of 1635 01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,360 Novel. Honestly, I'm a huge, 1636 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,320 personally, I'm a huge fan of this writer, especially having 1637 01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,000 read this one. Also because yeah, I like the 1638 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,120 way I think she puts a lot of effort into characterizing her 1639 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,800 characters and purposefully setting them up for comparison, 1640 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,920 like you said, and then setting up this like yin and Yang 1641 01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,640 situation that Crimson's pointing out between like the 1642 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,560 main couple. So it's not just like they 1643 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,520 locked eyes and they fell in love. 1644 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,520 It's more like there's something in you that I'm missing and like 1645 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:55,120 together we find balance. And it's definitely true in the 1646 01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:56,680 water. I finished the water, but it's 1647 01:28:56,680 --> 01:29:00,320 like it's in a more subtle way because I feel like in the 1648 01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:04,720 water, not to spoil anything, the Lata and Nam have a lot more 1649 01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:06,840 in common than they do differences. 1650 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,440 Like I feel like Din and Rose are a little more different and 1651 01:29:10,440 --> 01:29:12,800 so it's more obvious the way they balance each other. 1652 01:29:13,480 --> 01:29:18,600 But anyway, continuing with Crimson Crimson Lotus, the story 1653 01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,880 itself is very tightly crafted, but I truly, but truly the 1654 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:23,320 characters in the main event here. 1655 01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,400 Yes, like theorists said before, Salmon seems to be very good 1656 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:27,520 with characters. I didn't read that. 1657 01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,880 Yes, thank you. I said it again, Even minor 1658 01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,120 characters, you could easily know what they are all about. 1659 01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,440 But yeah, overall, fantastic story, fantastic characters, 1660 01:29:35,440 --> 01:29:39,040 fantastic romance and the most notable, fantastic acting, 1661 01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,000 especially Mim as Rose. Apparently it's her first acting 1662 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,840 role ever, too. Also, yeah, Rose, a lot of 1663 01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,240 people already noticed that when the show was airing and it was a 1664 01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:51,400 surprise for everyone. And a lesser story, a character 1665 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,160 like Rose in such a setting, she would have been the damsel in 1666 01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:55,560 distress and didn't have to save her. 1667 01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,080 But she wasn't that at all. And that's why that's why I love 1668 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,280 the story so much. I think Salmon does a good job 1669 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,640 of, like, subverting your expectations. 1670 01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,200 She's like, yeah, here's the trope you would expect her to 1671 01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,520 fall into, and she's not going to fall into that because she's 1672 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,200 a modern woman. She's Gen. 1673 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,560 Z bitch. I like Santa does that a lot 1674 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:14,400 where she's like, yeah, here's the trope, fuck that trope. 1675 01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,280 It's really funny. I like when she does that. 1676 01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:22,320 That's funny all right. Nice comments from All about 1677 01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,880 Girl Love and they say the cousins. 1678 01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:31,160 Perfect cast and so much fun and made me want to discover each 1679 01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:32,840 series more. Din Rose. 1680 01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,240 They were cute, lovely, fun and even sexy. 1681 01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:40,200 Apple and Mim did a great job. Some scenes like the fire were 1682 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,160 really well done. Yeah, the the fire. 1683 01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,360 I watched the behind the scenes of that one and that was pretty 1684 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:46,320 interesting. Yeah. 1685 01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:48,600 That was interesting, although I'm like, didn't break the 1686 01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,360 fucking glass door. What the hell was she doing? 1687 01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,800 I know, right? How did she get out? 1688 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,080 How did she finally get out? I want to see that. 1689 01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,320 Part jumped out a window. That was dumb as shit though. 1690 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,960 Or Denzel's trying to like break the glass. 1691 01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,600 Pigeons glass anyway, production is probably like you were 1692 01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,840 absolutely not breaking those fucking glass apple or you dare 1693 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:13,640 but like girl, break the glass pro tip. 1694 01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,880 Apparently the door was really easy to open, and she had 1695 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,480 certainly pretend, Yeah, like, you could just open it really 1696 01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:22,320 easily. She's like I wish it was locked. 1697 01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,480 Yeah, and she did a good job trying to make that believable 1698 01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:29,360 anyway. All right, continuing on 1699 01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:34,240 Twitter, we have Wo under score and GK, who writes why they love 1700 01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,280 the Earth. I'd say the process of making 1701 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,480 the show happen and the fact that we even got this after the 1702 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,440 first cast fell apart, Men without acting background, but 1703 01:31:43,440 --> 01:31:45,280 doing her best. And here we are. 1704 01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,600 The best Rose. Yeah, she did great as Rose 1705 01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,720 Apple with 15 years experience in the industry supporting men 1706 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,920 the best she could. Awesome producer, director, cast 1707 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,080 and crew. And favorite moment is Rose 1708 01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,840 executing the 3A's. That was Rose being like let's 1709 01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,920 get in the water Den and I'm going to wear this white T-shirt 1710 01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:06,800 and get it buffet. That was so nerf like Den's like 1711 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:11,480 oh God, boobs. Rose is hilarious. 1712 01:32:11,480 --> 01:32:13,640 He's like yeah, look, there it goes. 1713 01:32:14,440 --> 01:32:16,200 That was fucking crazy. That was funny. 1714 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:22,840 That was just evil or Den. All right next is from Zebby who 1715 01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,320 says Peeden was such a green flag and the romance story was 1716 01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,560 well paced even though it was only 8 episodes it didn't feel 1717 01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,320 rushed. But my favorite part was the 1718 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:32,840 relationship between the cousins. 1719 01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,120 They had such great chemistry and really felt like they were 1720 01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,200 related. The way they supported each 1721 01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:40,520 other but also teased and annoyed each other peak. 1722 01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,560 Sibling energy. Yep. 1723 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:46,200 Oh absolutely love those morons. They're so funny. 1724 01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,800 OK, now let's shoot over to TikTok so we have S Desmond 1 1725 01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,680 Gen. X who writes they love the earth 1726 01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,640 Because there was no wasted storyline. 1727 01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:00,000 It wasn't rushed. Powerful natural body language. 1728 01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,600 You're seeing the ladies. Yeah, like amazingly, everything 1729 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:04,800 was on point. Those are facts you're stating. 1730 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,760 Except cows. Rushed arc, I would argue. 1731 01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:09,760 I would argue that was the one flaw. 1732 01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,000 Next is from Cam who says the way it was put together, the 1733 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,800 storyline love that their kisses were real kisses. 1734 01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:20,800 I'm not sure what that means to be honest. 1735 01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:22,720 With you, I don't either. But I think that. 1736 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,520 The That's why you loved it. I think the they they, they did 1737 01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,040 a good job acting out those scenes. 1738 01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:31,920 Yes they did. They made it feel realistic. 1739 01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:35,680 Good job, actors in that. In that regard, I think that's 1740 01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:39,640 where Apple being like a director comes into play, 1741 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,120 especially with a new actor to be like, here's what it's going 1742 01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,360 to look like on the camera and here's what you need to do to 1743 01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,720 make it look believable because I'm a fucking director. 1744 01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:51,440 I had good shows personally. All right, last but not least, 1745 01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:53,360 we'll go to Instagram to wrap this up. 1746 01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,160 So we have under score dot Larissa dot under score who 1747 01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:57,960 writes. Loved it, but found the 1748 01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,280 trafficking story a bit intense personally. 1749 01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:02,520 And that's super valid, because that is fair. 1750 01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,880 It wasn't. It really was. 1751 01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:14,040 Yeah, it's not for everybody. All right next is from Call 1752 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,640 under score me under score M's under score. 1753 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:19,680 Honestly, I love the Earth. Not really just because of the 1754 01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,000 plot, but more because of the characters. 1755 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,880 Din and Rose feel real to me. Like the relationship is not 1756 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,840 just cute or romantic, it actually has weight and history 1757 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,360 behind it. I like how Din is not perfect, 1758 01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:33,480 she's a huge dork. She's just trying her best while 1759 01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,960 turning a lot. And Rose is not weak either. 1760 01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,480 She makes her own choices even when it hurts. 1761 01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,480 Also the dynamic feels natural and not forced at all. 1762 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,960 And the Oh no I don't know how to say this last name within a 1763 01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:51,680 wit within a wit Cousins and MO Dang adds so much to the story. 1764 01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:53,960 Without them it really wouldn't feel the same. 1765 01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,240 Can't wait for Noms to turn to be teased by her. 1766 01:34:56,240 --> 01:35:01,760 Cousins, yeah. God, I love nom again. 1767 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,280 If you thought Den was a disaster, just just wait. 1768 01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:09,240 There's one moment in particular where it's like, wow, she's 1769 01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,840 worse than Den. It's so funny. 1770 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,160 I literally when I was reading it, I think that was my note in 1771 01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:15,800 the book. I was like, she's worse than 1772 01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,440 Den. I can't wait. 1773 01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:23,760 All right, next we have Nora 11.08 dot 02 who writes. 1774 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:27,520 Loved how well it blended the comic aspect with the comedy 1775 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,520 aspect with the love story. All actors and actresses did a 1776 01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,920 great job, especially Kuna. Apple played dim. 1777 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:37,520 Yeah, I give her an award for being dim because she was funny 1778 01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,080 as fuck. Give her an award for being 1779 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,240 Apple. Yeah, give her an award for 1780 01:35:42,440 --> 01:35:45,400 fucking directing the last case, because that was so good. 1781 01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,600 It's so good. I love that show so. 1782 01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:50,880 Bad. Me too, I want her to keep 1783 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:52,880 directing she's. So talented. 1784 01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,600 All right. Our last comment is from Sarah. 1785 01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:01,440 under score 63. under score 26. Amazing story. 1786 01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:03,880 Can't wait for the water. Yeah. 1787 01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,920 Can't wait for the water, can't wait to continue the four 1788 01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:10,800 elements stories because honestly, it just keeps getting 1789 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:15,480 better and more chaotic and lovely and it gets to continue, 1790 01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:18,400 which is probably why I love the water so much, which is going to 1791 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:23,720 continue, which is really nice. So thank you to everybody who 1792 01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,600 participated and shared why you love the the earth. 1793 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,840 We will keep doing this for the water, the air and the fire. 1794 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,960 So stick around. Let us, if we missed something, 1795 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:36,480 if there's a scene you love, you know, we didn't encapsulate a 1796 01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:39,320 reason why you love the Earth. Please comment below this 1797 01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:40,720 episode. Just tell us why you love the 1798 01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:44,240 earth. And are you looking for the 1799 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:45,280 water? You watching the water? 1800 01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,040 What you think so far? Tell us that also. 1801 01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:52,560 Yeah. Do you have a challenge for 1802 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,040 them? I don't, I'm sorry. 1803 01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:56,480 That's the challenge, tell us why you love it. 1804 01:36:56,480 --> 01:36:59,800 Who's your favorite cousin? Who's your favorite wife? 1805 01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,080 Leave it all in the comments. Just leave it down below and 1806 01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,480 we'll be back with plenty of more 4 elements content like I 1807 01:37:06,480 --> 01:37:08,840 mentioned in the beginning. So tune in for that. 1808 01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,560 And until next time, hydrate for lesbian Jesus. 1809 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,840 And get up all over the place. 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