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scene by scene breakdown of Blank the series, and today
we'll be discussing Season 2 Episode 3.
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Alright. Let's get into this.
So this episode starts again with the 360 kiss, so hydrate
for that. So we got to see it twice yes,
twice with a different soundtrack.
For some reason. I don't know why the music is
different. It's different music like at the
end of two O 1 it's ominous and then at the at the beginning of
like 2O3 it's not. So I don't know why they want
you to forget that something that Auntie Nim catches them.
They're just like remember how iconic this kiss was in the
hallway? So we did.
Thanks, 9 star. Yeah.
So unfortunately, this kiss before I think it can get to the
whole 360. Hold on.
First of all, Can you imagine, like, an actual 360, though?
Like, if I would have to like, flip.
OK. But unfortunately, this kiss is
interrupted by Auntie Nim lurking in the doorway.
She's the welcoming committee. We all knew this was going to
happen. We knew it was going to happen.
They did too. They just.
No, they did. That's why big nun's like we're
gonna get caught. Let's get caught in style.
So. After they get caught, little
nun goes. Somewhere and I don't actually
know where she goes, but she she just leaves.
I think big Nung sends her to her room 'cause that's what she
was trying to do before Little Nung was like, no, you're making
out with me furiously in the hallway right now.
Big Nung's like, I guess 'cause she's trying to send her to her
room, yes. So little Nung goes to her room
while Auntie Nim Big Nung relocate to the balcony, the gap
because they had to make this as dramatic as possible, correct?
Yes. And I don't think it's just the
balcony. I think it's like halfway up the
balcony, which is a choice as well.
It's a choice. I mean it, it was very, very
necessary to change location. They couldn't just have the
conversation right? Where they, you know what I
think happened? The ghost of the grand man
brought them here because remember the grand man
confronted Sam on this exact balcony and gap.
So she's like you guys should talk about this here where my
ghost can overhear everything because she's brought up in this
conversation that and but like when the grand ma'am confronted
Sam, Sam was on the floor, I believe still correct.
So but in the situation, big Nung has the power right now
because she is the head. So she had to go up on the
balcony because it's an even playing field.
How funny would be if like Big Nong was trying to go up here to
talk to Nim on the floor and it was like, no, wait, Big Nong was
like, damn it, no, you're whatever, at least you got this
guy. Tired of the lesbian ghost of
Grand Bam. Grand Bam gave.
Her head of household power to. Auntie Nim to be able to write
with Big Nong, right? So like, OK, what I like about
this scene is that to me, Auntie Nim and the scene reads like a
surrogate parent to Big Nong by how this conversation basically
goes down. It's a much more tame version,
I'm sure of what would have went down with the Grand Man if the
Grand Man was alive. If you wanna see how the Grand
Man would have been so happy about this, Theora, if you wanna
see how the Grand Man would have reacted to this, go watch Gap.
Go watch Gap the series. So you'll see her reaction
'cause this is worse than Sam and Von.
So anyway, so all right, so the way this conversation goes is
like basically idiot was like, what the hell did I just walk
in? Like what?
What were you doing? OK, my job is to come out and
greet people that come in the house, not fine people 5 seconds
from fucking in the hallway. Like what was that Nung?
And Nung's like Oh my God. So they get into this, that like
whole thing about the truth of Nung and Big Nung and little
Nung's relationship basically is what they actually get to cause.
Like, let's be real, Andy Nim's been suspicious since the Waffle
House incident. And so here it is.
She got this. Either something like that going
on or Big Nung's getting into kidnapping.
So right, Nim is concerned about what's going on here.
So I imagine like, all right, here's the deal.
So to me, she reads as a surrogate parent because I
imagine Auntie Dam has been working in this palace most of
her life. And so she helped, probably
helped the grand man raise Nung and her sisters when they came
to live in the palace. And by raise, I mean Auntie Dam
helped enforce the grand man's rules at which are the rules of
living in this palace in order to make sure the girls grew up
quote, like the right way into proper ladies or whatever,
right? And I think because Auntie Nim
is such a stickler for the rules which we've seen in this show, I
think that that's what emboldens her, like the employee to
confront Big Nung, right, 'cause like they're not actually on
equal playing field, like socially.
But Auntie Nim reads as concerned parent in this scene
because I think like, first of all, her loyalty of the grand
man is internal eternal, not internal eternal forever.
It's forever. And I think that, you know, in
this environment, like Auntie and probably like legitimately
cares for Nong and her sisters and is like, is concerned the
way the the grand ma'am would be concerned.
But because she's not the grand ma'am, she can't like full out.
Yeah, let Nong have a scene like the grand ma'am would like.
She can't explode on her. What if Auntie Nim and the grand
ma'am were friends when they were younger, like prick and a
nin and like they were always like family.
So she was even closer to the girls in general because the
grand ma'am and her used to be so close.
But then like once the grand ma'am like rose into power, they
had to like keep a more professional relationship.
Maybe they even had a thing at one point.
You know, I'm all here for making everybody a lesbian.
So I mean that is a theory. On in my brain.
It's, I mean, it's possible. I think that they were
definitely close. And Auntie Nam obviously cares
about the grand man and like, respects her a lot based on a
lot of the conversations. We're we're gonna get into
another one with her and Lil Nung later in the episode, who
knows how many hours from now, But we will get into that where
like, she clearly respected the grand man, right?
So I think that's where this is all coming from.
Yeah. And the the bottom line is that
the palace has rules, OK? It's like the rules of royalty.
You know, you want to be in this.
You know, if you want to be in this type of privilege, it comes
with constraints, OK? It's not no strings attached.
There are strings. And Nung knew that when she
moved back into the palace. But like free rent.
So she's like whatever. And like moved back, right?
That. Is Big Nung's dream basically
free, Correct. Free rent, free food.
She's like, yeah, whatever oppressive environment.
Why not? It's like, I did this most of my
life. I can handle this for for your
renting food. All right, Exactly.
So the conversation starts, get starts going where Nim's like,
what are you doing, Nung? And Nung's like, I'm just living
my best life. What do you mean?
And Big Nung and Auntie Nim brings up the grand man when
she's like, well, I'm just worried.
I'm sorry if I'm being nosy or whatever or overstepping the
boundaries of like employer, employee shit.
But she's like, if you're, I'm worried, 'cause if your
grandmother was here, she would also be super worried at this
behavior that you're displaying, right?
It's not proper. It's not like proper etiquette.
You're not following the rules like, so I'm concerned you're
breaking rules cause your grandmother was real big on the
rules. And I think once she brings up
the grand ma'am, Big Nung starts regressing, right, 'cause we've
talked about this a million times.
She's in her childhood home. But now that her, the enforcer
of the rules is being brought up, Big Nung regresses even more
into like being a child who was trapped in the castle, right?
That was her childhood. So to me, this conversation
sounds a lot like what I imagined Big Nung would have
wanted to say to the grand ma'am as this conversation gets into
it, if the two of them ever actually talked about issues
like adults, which they never did.
So to me, it's almost like the writers gave us that scene, but
replace the grand man with Auntie Nim in this kind of
context of the show. So to me, the way this all plays
out with Auntie Nim is like, what could have been with the
grand man, OK. And so they kind of keep going
and, and Auntie Nim's like, I'm just worried you're breaking
rules. Like your grandmother would be
worried, Like I'm worried if she saw this.
And Nung is like, she's like, that's what this is about.
This is about making other people happy.
And she's like Auntie Nim, tell me what's the what's the secret?
What do I, what do I have to do to make everybody happy?
I've been trying to figure that out on my own.
And remember, Nung, her big thing is like, I'm afraid of
making mistakes, all this kind of stuff.
She said, Tell me what you want from me, right?
And when she asks Auntie Nim of this, it sounds really sincere.
Like she's so frustrated and tired and she's just like tired
of disappointing people. She's like, tell me what you
want. Here's her quote, like a
disappointed parent, right? In this conversation, she's
like, what do you want? What do I have to do to make you
happy? And interestingly, Auntie Nim
has no answer to that. She gets real quiet when Nung
asks asks this question. Cause like seriously, what do
you want from? Her like no one.
Knows what they actually want people to do.
They just know what they don't want them to do.
But right. Big Nung then goes on to say.
But I feel. Like big Nung is just done at
this point. She's like, you need to
understand where I'm coming from.
And she says that little Nung is her happiness and then says
she's my everything. And she's just trying to get
Ante Nim to realize that this isn't just like a random thing,
like it teenage rebellion thing. Not that she's a teenager
anymore, but no, like, that's kind of like how they treat her
with the way that they're repressing her.
So yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, exactly.
Like, 'cause think about it. Yeah, She rebelled, came back,
and it's like watching her with a wary eye, like she's gonna
break the rules again. And so I think Nung feels judged
a little bit. And she's like, I don't look,
what do you want from me? I'm like, this person makes me
happy. I wasn't doing something
scandalous. Like I like she like, I.
By her saying that, she's admitting like, we've been
together for a while. That's what she's kind of
saying. It's not like I just picked her
up out of the Waffle House and this one started like she's
like. She.
Just travels through Waffle Houses trying to pick up women.
Pick up women. What a weird.
What a weird thing to be into. That's your thing and it works.
Good for you. But like, Big Nung would never
alright anyway. But the fact that what I love
about those two lines, when she admits big Little Nung is my
happiness. She's my everything.
The fact that she can even say that out loud so easily to a
straight, to another person is a testament to her tremendous
growth. Truly.
Yeah and then I, I feel like especially with how you said
that Auntie Nim is the stand in for the Grand ma'am.
Big Nung asks Auntie Nim if her true feelings about Little Nung
change anything. Because she's still.
Trying to like have the acceptance she wants.
It. I mean, little Nung has
validated her, but she definitely does need a parental
type figure to validate her as well.
Yeah, I agree. And also like they have to
coexist in this palace. So she's basically, I think big
Nung got into this conversation thinking, OK, younger woman,
older woman, the scandal of it all.
And like, that's why antonyms like it's kind of about
appropriateness. It's not just that you're making
out with people in the hallway. It's like who you're making out
with in the hallway. That's I'm worried about your
family, your reputation, that kind of stuff, which is the crux
of all of this. And so I like that when Big Nung
says, no, it's not just like a hookup thing, like she's my
entire world. And does that fact make you more
open minded about what you just saw?
More open minded about our age gap, our situation?
That's what she's asking Auntie Nim and excuse me.
So she's saying is like, does the fact that this person makes
me happy change your stance on this relationship?
That's what she's actually asking Auntie Nim because Auntie
Nim came at this knowing not a lot.
See, I mean, Auntie Nim has seen himself with the two of them.
That's not great. So like, she's kind of like,
what is this? It looks like you're kidnapped
her the other night and dragged her upstairs.
She didn't sleep on the sofa. Like you guys are fighting.
Like, what is that like exactly? It's like Auntie Nim doesn't
understand, but she sees herself all over the place in this
place. Right, Right.
Exactly so like Andy Dub's like I'm just I I'm concerned.
I'm just I'm just like behaviors out of you.
It's the Katy Perry song You're hot and you're cold, right No,
literally is this relationship good, bad, like what is going
on? Right.
So like, and it's like, I'm just I'm just worried.
So I like that Nung asks this like does the fact that she's my
happiness, she's my world? Does that change like make you
more open minded about this? Does that change your stance on
what you just did? Judgment of my relationship.
I find this line of questioning very interesting.
First of all, because what she's kind of asking is like, does
love conquer all Is basically that's what her statement boils
down to, which is little Nung's mentality for their
relationship. Anytime Big Nung bings up, like,
you know, love might not be enough.
There's all these other factors, blah blah blah.
Little nun's always like, no, love conquers all.
Like what are you talking about? So it's interesting that Big
Nung adopted that mentality in this conversation, OK?
Because here it's almost like she's admitting without
admitting that Big Nung wants to believe their love will survive
all these hardships that they're facing like, no matter what.
But Big Nung is scared at the end of the day that like, it
won't be enough, that what if my pessimism is correct, right?
She wants to be the optimist like Little Nung is, but she's
still like, I live in the real world.
Like, what if, you know, what if love isn't enough?
And so it's fucked up. But like, she knows in the back
of her head she might lose Little Nung to all this
nonsense. And I think the possibility
terrifies her, but also motivates Big nun to fight
fiercely for this relationship when she's able to.
So when this opportunity with Auntie Nim presents itself to
defend their relationship, she does.
She does to the fullest extent of, you know, by a flat out
admitting like, she's everything to me like.
I feel like this is the first. Time she's kind of getting like,
quote, lost in love like, yeah. She sees little Nung's optimism.
She wants to be more like little Nung and she she's hoping that
it works. I there's always going to be
that little voice in the back of her head like, but if it doesn't
work out, you'll lose everything.
And you know, let's try not to listen to that voice but you
know that that voice can get very loud.
But this is the first time that she's like, OK, well, let me
try. Let me try to see if love will
be enough. Ultimately, Big Nung agrees.
At the end of the day, she's like, I'll abide by the palace
rules and be discreet with this relationship, But she doesn't
ever agree to stop seeing Little Nung.
She would never. She would never.
But Big Nung reiterates in this conversation that she doesn't
care if the Palace staff doesn't accept your relationship.
She's like, I, if you can't accept this, that's fine.
I don't expect everybody to understand.
She's like, I, I'm fine with people who don't understand this
and then she says, but this is my life like, and I love that
she not only defends their relationship in this
conversation, Big Nung sticks up for herself, which I think is
extremely important, especially coming off of 2O2 where we had
that whole conversation about Song and Little Nong's like, you
got to forgive yourself, give yourself some credit.
So I like that Big Nung took that advice and is using it here
to like defend herself. OK.
The person that's had this self deprecating streak ever since
she left the palace, here she is defending herself, which I think
is huge. And by doing so, she's standing
firmly in her decision to date little Nung because it is her
life and she's not going to waste it trying to please
everybody else, especially when they can't tell her what they
want, right? And to do so would be at the
expense of her own happiness. And this is this was Sam's
literal plot line in Gap the series.
And Big Nung again, was the one that intervened to advocate for
Sam's happiness. So I love the parallels there
because Sam has given her the advice in this show to be like
you. You got to go for what you want.
Like you got to put yourself first.
Sometimes. Like sometimes that's OK.
Sometimes that is the right move, like, but really the show
for me is about like finding balance with all of those things
because extremes of one or the other are rarely a good thing.
Like temporarily maybe, but in the long run, like extremes are
never a good thing. Think that because they're both
basically acting like that person for each other in each
show, that it's a lot easier to give the advice than to take it.
And that's true for a lot of things.
It's it's true, but also like where the characters were coming
from in both scenarios, like the character that was giving the
advice had just gone through that and it worked out for them.
So like, for example, in gap the series when big big Nung gave
the advice to Sam, like Sam, you got to chase your own happiness.
Fuck the grand man. Big Nung was saying that because
she's like, I left the palace and I'm happier.
It worked out for me. You should do it too.
And then in Blank, the series, when Sam is giving the advice to
Nung, like, don't worry about what other people are saying.
If this relationship makes you happy, go for it.
Look at where Sam's at. That's what she did with Mon.
And now they're married and, like, the happiest people on
earth. So it's because the character
went through that to give the advice.
It's not just they're saying, hey, this is what you should.
It's because they're like, hey, look at me.
I'm the example of that working out.
Like, I want that for you too, you know?
So that's kind of where the sisters were coming from when
they were giving their respective advice in each show.
So, like, it makes sense. But Nung's journey wasn't over.
And yeah, it's the problem. Yeah.
No, no, not if all of this was about to happen.
Correct. Yeah.
All right.
So I want to get into some different parallels that I love.
So the next thing that Nong says after she's like, this is my
life. And she says I've realized
what's the most important thing in my life.
And parallel us back to episode 105 in Blank when Lil Nong,
remember she's sending the voice recordings and she sent the one
voice recording where she was recording Pluto, the weird Pluto
passage, the Satan one where she says basically, she boldly told
Big Nung, I would never make a deal with the devil like the
person in this book because I wouldn't never risk the most
important thing in my life. And then she asked Big Nung, do
you know what the most important thing in my life is?
And that's when Big Nung was like hanging on her every word
being like, Oh my God, what is it?
And Little Nung very boldly and proudly proclaimed, it's you.
You're the most important thing in my life.
So let's go all the way back to season 1 where like little Nung
knew Big Nung was the most important thing in her life and
was saying it, which is why Little Nung fights so fiercely
for the relationship, right? So now, and the big Nung heard
that got that little heart pitter patter, right?
She's like, oh, oh, this is doing things to me.
But now let's jump forward to two O 3.
And here's Nung finally at the point where she's like, she is
the most important thing. Now we're on the same page like,
and I can fully admit that out loud.
And big Nung is admitting it not just to anybody, it's to her
surrogate parent in this conversation that little Nung is
the most important thing in her life.
And she's not willing to risk that to abide by arbitrary
rules, which is huge. Yeah, this, this whole
conversation. Is just a lot and it's
definitely a lot for big Nung cause at the end of the
conversation when Antonym walks away, Big Nung is left alone.
I mean, again, on this big balcony with emptiness
surrounding her and she just sighs.
And part, I feel like part of it is just like, I just did that.
I was able to say how I was really feeling to somebody.
But she is also stressed out from everything that's going on.
She just wants it to be easier. To be fair, though, like, yeah,
this was stressful, but this was the easier of the family
conversations because who has the power in this scenario?
She does. She's the head of the household.
There is no grand ma'am. If there was a grand man, this
is a different story because Nung, it would be second to the
grand man. Nung is number one literally in
this whole house. And so Antonym really doesn't
have a lot of authority over her.
It's more so a out of respect for you kind of conversation
that they were having. But if Antonym didn't approve of
big Nung and little Nung, it literally changes nothing.
It just makes it awkward to be in the house.
But like, ultimately Nung can fire you like it, it changes
nothing versus like if Nong was having this conversation with
Lolong's grandmother, the stakes are way higher because there's
that's an actual authority figure who has authority over
their relationship, but antonym doesn't.
So while this was stressful, this was fairly low stakes
conversation. It may not feel that way because
they're, you know, they have existing relationship and stuff,
but like truly Antonym has no actual hold over Nong.
So there's that. But yeah, it's it's stressful to
confront people, you know, who don't understand your
relationship. What I find interesting, though,
is the visual of her alone on the balcony.
So when you're you mentioned, she sighs like she's stressed
out and she's like like leaning on the balcony overlooking kind
of like the foyer or whatever. It's a really interesting shot
because this is the shot from Gap, right where it was looking
up. The grand man was there and Gap,
but now we get this upward angle looking at Big Nung who's in the
position of power 'cause you know, she's the head of the
family now. She is the figure of authority
in the palace, like the queen, right?
She's the queen of the palace. So therefore really she is in a
position now to make her own decisions despite the precedent
the grand man laid out, like she could follow tradition or she
could go a different path. She kind of like has some leeway
with that cause like she's in charge, right?
So part of the other part of this conversation too that I
liked is it was really like big Nung establishing herself as the
new head of the household with Auntie name, cause Auntie name
comes in there. And I was like, well, your
predecessor wouldn't approve. And, and Nung's like, I'm in,
I'm in charge now. So I think that like that was
good because I think she's as head of household has been kind
of living in the shadow of the grey man when it comes to the
palace staff and things like that.
So I like that this is Nung kind of emerging, being like I'm the
new leader. And I think that Nung
establishing herself as the leader is, is important because
and the way she did it was good because she was like respectful
about her. She wasn't a Dick about her.
She could just be like, I'm in charge now, you do what I say.
But she wasn't, she was like, listen, this is my stance, This
is my life. I'm gonna keep doing this thing.
And if you don't agree with it, that's fine.
You can keep working in here. And I don't mind that I don't,
you don't have to agree with me, but I'm telling you, this is my
happiness. I'm gonna do it.
That's just what's going to happen now in this house.
Like I do like the way she says that because it shows that like
she she is, you know, she is the head of the household.
And the other thing I love about the visual of her on the balcony
is that she's alone. Like Antonym's gone at this
point when like she's sighing on the balcony.
And to me, it kind of shows, like, if no one were to actually
cave into doing what people placing, which is what Sam did,
she would be so alone in this giant empty house.
And for what? To please the palace staff at
her own expense. Like, what kind of life would
she really have there? She'd be literally back where
she started as a kid on Happy in this environment, you know?
Yeah, I was looking at this photo that you have here.
And again, I know we've talked about that they've shown the
shot in Gap, But to me it kind of seems more powerful here.
I don't know, maybe it's the lack of spotlights going on that
like take you out of the scene, but it's kind of it's pretty
dark in this palace. Like you have the big chandelier
on. But the interesting thing is
that the light is basically just where Big Nung is right now, and
everything or surrounding it is dark.
And I feel like it kind of represents how she is back.
But she isn't the same anymore. She is happier and brighter with
little Nung with her. But when she's in the palace,
that darkness of the past still surrounds her.
So yeah, it's confining her. Yeah, absolutely.
And I think, like, part of the struggle is like lighting up the
entire house, like metaphorically with their
relationship. And it's, you know, Nung has I
think Nung says it in this episode where she's like, it's
going to just take time. Like, it's not going to be like
it you flip a switch and all the lights are suddenly on.
Metaphorically speaking, it's like we have to individually go
turn every fucking light switch on.
And that's going to take time. But in the end, it'll be worth
it, right? So yeah, it's it's the start of
the journey. Is this conversation right here
dealing with like her surrogate parent?
It's a long journey, but we'll get.
There in 20 years. OK, So the next morning, Little
Nung and Big Nung are talking, and Little Nung emerges from the
bathroom and she is looking very guilty.
Meanwhile, Big Nung is lingering in the room, just waiting
patiently for Little Nung to wake up because they do have to
talk. OK, let's talk about this.
So first of all, they're in Little Nung's room, her private
quarters, OK. And Big Nong got up way before
Little Nong, which I don't think happens.
Little Nong seems like the early bird for me.
And Big Nong is like sleep still noon.
That seems like they're like. There was a.
Song Nightmare at 4:00 AM and I don't think so.
I think that Big Nong was worried about Lil Nong and then
woke up early and Lil Nung's also hungover, so she probably
slept later than normal. And Big Nung was literally
waiting in her room. So she went and waited in like
the living room area of Lil Nung's quarters.
So that when Lil Nung woke up to go find Big Nung, Big Nung's
already waiting for her. And like dressed, she's like
ready to go. She's like, I'm ready for the
day. And like Lil Nung's in pajamas.
Like she literally just woke up and like wandered into the
living room. And their body language
immediately is very interesting and super different.
Big Nung just looks happy to see Little Nung.
And little Nung's like, cowering, like she's bracing
herself for the morning after fight.
Right. And I want to note something
before we get into the rest of the scene is that it's worth
noting that Big Nung uses her quote, cute voice this entire
conversation. Like the whole conversation, OK.
There is nothing angry at all about her in the scene.
Like she's just like, I get it. And Liu Lung apologizes
immediately. She's like, look, I'm sorry
about last night. I didn't, I didn't mean to Like
she was just jealous, upset, frustrated.
And it just all kind of came out emphasis on frustrated because
the whole thing is very frustrating.
It is. And I think big Nung knows that.
And the way big Nung's like looking at her when she's saying
this, it's very clear that like, she gets all like, she, she
understands why Lung did all that.
And I think it's because Big Nung at this point understands
her own feelings at this point and is equipped to empathize
with Little Nung in this scene and empathize with the behavior
she saw last night. And over the course of this
relationship, Big Nung learned her emotional maturity and she
demonstrates it fully in this conversation with Little Nung,
which is beautiful and huge. All the conversations.
Keep. Getting more and more healthier
and it's so beautiful, man. Yep, 'cause Season 1 would have
just been shutting down, sabotaging.
Now it's understanding, Yeah. And if this were Gap and it's a
salmon Mon, they'd be fighting. But like, there's nothing
confrontational about this. It's just like, I already
understand. Like, you don't need to explain
this to me, 'cause Big Young knows why Little Young got drunk
and why she acted out and she witnessed Little Nung act
immaturely when she's upset before.
Let's go back to the Waffle House scene where she was like
assaulting folk and shit like that.
Like she's seen her irrational before when she's upset because
Little Nung's usually very little Nung usually has the
brain cells. She's usually very rational
about stuff, except when it's like she's triggered and jealous
and like very upset. And Big Nung, I think knows
that. And I think that if the roles
were reversed and Big Nung was that Little Nung's podcast
opening or whatever, and there were people openly courting
Little Nung in front of her, she would also be really pissed off.
Like I think she's 'cause she can empathize now.
She's like, I understand this would also piss me off.
I think that's why the whole night at the gala opening she
kept, she was not paying attention to anything.
She was just looking at little like, I am so sorry about this.
Like I would be upset too. I think she can finally put
herself in Little Hong's position and remember Little
Hong, do you ever think about how I feel?
She's like, I think I understand now how you're feeling, 'cause I
understand how I would feel in this scenario.
I mean, she does. She has this.
Well, first of all, she's had the same thoughts before, but
she's having some of the same thoughts that night as well.
Because Big Mom wants to be able to show off Little None just as
much as Little None wants to be shown off.
Because I feel like if they were fully public that night, Big Nun
would have just been, like, pushing Little Nung into the
spotlight. Even though it's her gallery.
I feel like it would be, like about the both of them, not just
Big Nung. Yeah.
I don't think she would push her to the spotlight because Lung
hates the spotlight. But I think she would, like, let
Lung hang on her arm the whole night, basically.
Yeah. She would parade her around the
gala while she's, like, doing her thing.
Yeah. So like you said, like, Big Nung
also does not want to hide their relationship either.
She's been very vocal about that.
And I think part of her is relieved, like with the Auntie
Nim caption, I think last night, the whole thing with Auntie Nim
where she's like, you want to do this, let's do this.
I think part of her is also like, I'm tired of hiding this
in my own house. And so I think now that Nim
knows and the restless stuff, they're gonna gossip.
Let's be real. The palace staff is gonna start.
One of them knows, they all know.
And she's like they a whole house.
The whole house knows. We've seen this in the loyal pin
at this right? It's so fast, the gossip train.
So I think part of her is relief that they don't have to hide in
the palace anymore. Like, the palace can now
transition into their home versus a place where they were
still closeted. OK, so then after big Nong's
like, it's OK, they transition into like, Auntie Nem.
She's like, it's all right. No, I'm not mad at you.
And Auntie Nem's not mad. Auntie Nem was just worried.
And Wil Nong's like, what do you mean I'm worried?
I'm worried about what? And big nong.
Says I think a bunch of stuff. Got delighted.
Waffle House incident, basically.
Big Nung says Oh yeah, she's just worried.
Big Nun. I forget my I think my notes got
erased. No, the line was, yeah, let me,
let me just check something. Real quick then.
It's it's fine. I can remember it.
So what it translates to is like, she's Auntie Nim was just
worried that I was deceiving somebody younger than me.
And I think that what it's actually translating as I think
deceived means seduced in this context.
And she's like, she's worried I was seducing a younger woman.
And Little Nung gets her confidence back immediately.
She's like, hmm, well, did you clarify to Auntie Nam that the
younger woman was the one seducing you the whole time?
Which I that is their dynamic and I fucking love that.
I I love her I that the. Confidence and audacity just
exuding from her from the very beginning.
It's just I would love to. Be that confident.
But it's true. She's like, I'm the one that
seduced you. So like, you don't do dare take
your words. She wore her down from day one.
Can I move in with you? I'm like, yeah, a little
nonsense. I saw what was going on.
She would have been like, oh, I get it.
It's so funny. Big nom, who can blame her?
Exactly. Little Nun, good job.
You did a great job. Art of Seduction.
You should write that book. OK, so Big Nun clarifies after
we get 'cause she was teasing Little Nung and then was like,
like, really? She's like, she's just worried
that people are going to judge us, like judge this
relationship, like the royal family is going to get judged by
extension. And Little Nung's like, can we
stop talking about other people and what they think about us and
big things like, I'm not here to fight with you about this.
I'm just letting you know that was the scenario.
And she says out loud like, sooner or later people are going
to know about us. And I love how Big Nung is
basically saying, I'm not telling you any of the stuff to
argue with you about what other people think about this.
I'm telling you this so that you're prepared for what will
happen when people know about us.
So this is confirmation to Little Nung that like Big Nung's
like we're going to go public with our relationship at some
point. I just want you to be prepared
for the backlash that's going to happen based on what we just
experienced with one person in this house, because Big Nun's
objective was always to protect Little Nun from the bullshit,
right? And so she's like, I just, she
says that she's like, I just want you to be careful, OK
'cause she's worried about her and says like, can you please
just sleep in this room, in your room away from me for just a
couple of nights until the dust of the gossip kind of settles.
And before a little one can properly protest this like she
would Big Nung in her cute voice, it's like, please,
please, my good girl, please. And Lil Nung is visibly losing
her shit the whole time. Big Nung is doing this because
holy hell, Big Nung's literally begging her to do something.
And then the good girl, the the good girl nickname, forget it.
She's like, fine, fine, your pet naming me in the cute voice, you
know that I'm gonna lose this argument.
And then she's like, fine, because you're being cute right
now. It's the only reason I'll do
this. And Big Nick's like, who's cute?
No, I'm never cute. If Big Boy did.
Catch her off guard with this. Little Nung would have like
negotiated something. And was like, OK.
Well, if I sleep there, can I have to sleep like on top of you
3 nights? I think the reason she didn't
play the Give a Mouse a cookie game is because Big Nung already
gave her the biggest cookie on earth by saying we're going to
go public with our relationship at some point.
Like big a Little Nung already won because remember, that's the
thing she's insecure about. That was literally the root of
the whole jealousy thing at the gala opening.
Because they can't go public and Big Nung's like it's going to
happen. I need you to be prepared for
backlash. That's going to happen.
So like, this has to be, this is going to be a process because
there's going to be backlash. So I think little Nung's like, I
win. She already won.
And she's like, OK, what's a couple of nights versus forever,
you know? Yeah.
So then little Nung, I think this is just Yoko doing this,
not even little Nung. So little Nung's like, OK, fine,
I'll agree to do this if I can hug you.
And then before Big Nung can say anything, she launches herself
at Big Nung. And just like, well, according
to his sufficient tape, yes, it was Yoko.
It was just Yoko. Yeah, this is Yoko.
And being Yoko, just being like, can I do this?
Does it immediately with so Big Nung can't even say any words.
And she's like, kind. Of it's just her way of.
Warning her what's gonna happen. Yeah.
She's like, I'm going to hug you.
I was worried she even said anything.
Just launched herself. And Big Nung is so, like,
enamored and just in love that she's basically like, well,
because you hugged me now I owe you a cheek kiss.
And Little Nung's like, tilts her head and she's like, yes,
please. It's so cute.
All right, I I love them. They're ridiculous.
And then they like, kind of like zoom out and we see like, them
hugging. OK.
And we get more of the room. And then I noticed something in
this room that I thought was really interesting.
If you look in the corner, there's a new easel and a blank
canvas in Little Nung's room, which means that Big Nung set
this up so she could hang out in there, probably while Little
Nung's studying. Or it's because Little Nung
still wants her to keep drawing her.
So they're like. OK, well if we have an easel in
every house, it'll make it easier to just keep drawing you
over and over and over. It could be.
But if you look, there's like completed paintings in here that
aren't Little Nung. So I think that big Nung does
this so she can just be near Little Nung while she's
studying. Because they're codependent.
So not only did they U-Haul into the palace, they have mutually U
hauled into each other's private quarters, which is very cute.
That is cute. It's not enough just to live
under the same roof, no, they literally just like spending
time together when they're just living their lives, which is
adorable and I love that about them.
It's very domestic of them. They're very domestic.
Yeah, but now we get to have an awkward breakfast with Auntie
Nim. We sure do.
Well, Auntie Nim is icing out little No because Auntie Nim is
just not happy with what's going on.
There's there was expectations put in place.
She's like we're following them. That's that's all she knows as
well. Like that's the rules in the
palace anyway. Little Nung is hurt by Auntie
Nim's actions towards them. Like she also wants to be
accepted in this place. Like this is now her new home.
She technically does not live here yet, but she does live
here. And Big Nung witnesses this and
looks really concerned because she's worried about the
rejection. She's worried about how little
Nung will handle it as well. This, this whole thing is just
not a great situation for them. And obviously they don't want to
be in every, they want everyone to accept them.
But this is what Big Nung has been worried about since the
very beginning. Yeah, and it's really sad,
'cause so. Like when they're sitting down
to get served breakfast basically and Auntie Nam gives
the plate of probably kanji to Little Nong and Little Nong says
thank you. Auntie Nam just looks at her and
says nothing. Like the woman who's like again,
palace rules is being polite and all these things just completely
ices out little Nung and doesn't even like say your like nothing.
No, no politeness at all. She just says nothing and
leaves. And big Nung with the way she
watches this and is like, oh, it's like she's watching her
girlfriend get rejected. Like, that's hard and like, to
come from her surrogate parent of all people.
That hurts Big Nung. And then like, she's watching
Little Nung, like, actively deflating in front of her.
Like, the, like, all the happiness there's like, drains
from Little Nung's face. Like she's actually getting
rejected by Auntie Nim in what should be a safe space, Right?
Yeah. So Big Nung grabs Little Nung's
hand to give her a little bit of comfort, to just remind her that
she's there with her, that it will be OK.
It's just an unfortunate situation, but it's reality.
So to me, this is a good example of the Nung's receiving a less
than positive reaction from their relationships.
This is what Big Nung's been talking like, worried about the
whole time. So for all Big Little Nung's
talk about how we should just ignore what other people think,
like deep down she wants acceptance.
That is the thing that she really wants.
She wants to be accepted for who she is.
And I think she does want acceptance for their
relationship and Big Nung knows that and sees it here.
That is why Little Nung deflates when she gets the negative
reaction from Auntie Nim. And I think that it really
bothers Big Nung that she can't just fix this so that Little
Nung's immediately happy. I think knowing how hurt Little
Nung is by other people's lack of acceptance is one of Big
Nung's driving motivators to make sure Little Nung's family
accepts them. Because look at how sad Little
Nung is, OK? And also, Big Nung knows from
personal experience how much lack of acceptance from your own
family hurts. That's like partially why she
was so mad at her grandmother 'cause like they loved each
other deep down, but it's like her grandmother couldn't accept
her and like, and she never got that acceptance.
And that's something that's gonna haunt her forever.
So to me, like I've been saying over and over again, I think
Nong, Big Nong is trying to spare Little Nong from the like,
pain she's dealing with from her past.
And like, so that Little Nong doesn't have to ever deal with
this because like Big Nong said, Little Nong is my happiness.
And when Little Nong is happy, she's happy.
So to see Little Nong not be happy, she's like, it kills her
that she can't just fix it immediately.
And I like when she grabs her hand over the table, 'cause she
doesn't say anything. She just grabs Little Nung's
hand and holds it. And to me, that's a gesture of
saying, like, we'll get through this together.
And I think that kind of support is what Little Nung needs.
And I think that gesture means a lot to Little Nung.
So then after she grabs her hand, the camera pans to Little
Nung's face and you watch her try to put on a smile for Big
Nung, but it falls very short. And like, again, that has to
kill. Big Nung like to see the bright
bubbly person not be bright and bubbly.
And so then they go back to eating their breakfast and both
of them just very look very lost in thought over all of this.
Because for Big Nung, I think in her brain she is like, OK, let's
test this shit out. Like our relationship coming out
with my family cause the stakes are lower like I said.
So if it goes poorly, whatever. These are palace staff, they're
not actually family members. I have Sam, that's all I care
about. That's my sister.
So I think here it did not go well and there's consequences to
that and little nuns reacting poorly to the palace staff not
accepting her, not like Nung's actual blood relatives.
So I think Big Nung is now lost in thought being like, oh fuck.
Well, when little Nung's family finds out, they're definitely
not going to accept this because the homophobia, I can see it.
And like, Oh my God, how are we going to navigate that?
That's going to crush little Nung.
Meanwhile, little Nung is at the table being like, well, I got to
get them to accept me because how else am I going to move in?
Like so I think they're both kind of grappling with how do I
get the other, my partner's quote, family to accept me.
OK. Because for little Nung, she's
like, well, I have to be seen as worthy by the palace staff and
they don't see me as worthy. Because when little big nun gets
a phone call, I think a work call and she goes away to take
it. You start seeing little Nung
transition from being sad to like like like thoughtful where
she's like thinking. I think she's thinking this
through like, well, how can, what can I do to like change the
palace staff's mind? And like Nancy name's the head
of the palace staff. So if you can smooze her, you'd
smooze them all over, right, 'cause her goal is to gain
acceptance, not just for herself, but like for big, not
like so each person's motivation is like for the other person,
which is I really love. So I love this exchange between
them. There's not a lot has really
said, but it it goes to show like their reactions to this,
how like much they care about making the other person happy.
And then they go each in this episode, they each go out and
try and do that to try to like get the other person's family to
accept this like for their partner.
So like again, their partnership is always on display as this
actual partnership thing, which I love about them.
That is that. Is very true.
It's an actual partnership. It's an actual partnership.
So. After breakfast, Big Nung drops
Little Nung off at university. Like a good.
Girlfriend like she's a gentle 1.
They're just very, very cute because they're always together
when they can be. She's like, yeah, that's that
is. Why she keeps driving her?
She's like. I can be with you.
Every little 2nd and the car I feel like is there the most safe
place for them there. There really cannot be anyone
else in there unless they know about it.
No, I agree. I think that's why later when
Chet's like I'm getting her a car, but Nung's like, crap,
That's my alone time with her. No, like, yeah, that's literally
why she drives her. That little Nung would be like,
hell no, no, little Nung feels the same way.
She's like, no, I want her to little Nung's.
Like. Why would I need to drive?
I have big nung, beautiful big Nung driving me around and I can
just stare at her. I don't have to worry about
looking at her rope. And it's like, the thought of,
like, Big Nung waits for me to get out of school.
Like, it gives her something to look forward to, you know?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Big Nung is also Big Nung's
like. It's the best part of her day,
really. I think that Big Nung, Big
Nung's motivation for that too, like cause Big Nung waits for
nobody. I think she's like, I wanna be
the first person she sees when she gets out of school.
I think that's what it is like, honestly, when you think about
why they keep doing this, it's that they just want to spend
time together and be like, she saw me first out of school.
Remember the glasses. She's like, how dare you show
other people this? Like, I think she wants to be
the first person that I want to see out of school.
So when they get to the university folk and Youi are
waiting on the curb and something I I just love that
they get to the university and Little Nung has people waiting
for her. Like there's finally people in
her life that want to be there for her and care about her.
And like, yeah, technically other people care about her, but
they're really like looking after themselves, correct?
The strength. They don't.
They don't really no care about her.
But these these. Three people right now are the
ones who care about Little numb the most and little and it's
also just shows how why she is excelling more in university as
well. She has people that.
Care about her anyway, she found her queer friend group.
Let's be honest. That's what that is what you
need. That is the turning point in
everybody's life. I say that because once I got my
queer friend group, my life became so much better.
You meet. The queer Group.
That's why queer people forgive in college.
You just meet other queer people and they're like, yay.
That's what happened to little about.
That's why she's like doing so good.
And she's never worried about. She's never stressed about
school. She used to be stressed in high
school. She's never stressed.
She's just becoming who's she's supposed to be.
Yeah. So big non tells folk and UE to
look after little known because of course she does.
I they would do it anyway. It's protective girlfriend
behavior And then before she leaves, I mean she has to
continue staring at Lil nun like every single second like she's
driving off and she's probably just still staring at her
anyway. She's more covert 'cause
they're, they have an audience right now.
So she like she looks away. She looks away a bunch of times.
Then right before she drives away, big Nun very quickly looks
at little Nung and genuinely smiles.
Like she rarely genuinely smiles in public staring at little.
It lasts like a fraction of a second before she's like, Oh
yeah, we're in public and then drives away.
But Little Nung loses her shit because Big Nun is being really
fucking cute today. Like out of nowhere she's like,
I thought we were gonna wake up and break up and like here was
this morning came where she was like, it's adorable the whole
day and then just smile at me in front of my friends.
Like little one can't believe it.
So like when Big Nun drives away, she's just staring at the
car as it's receding in the distance with like heart eyes on
full display 'cause she just can't believe it.
Like wow, girlfriend Nung, the best version of Nung.
Oh my God. Meanwhile folk and you are just
like something queer is going on.
They're just like, is she really excited about school today?
This is weird, but like at the bottom of at the at the end of
the day, little Nong, this is a cute moment because she's young
and in love and it's really sweet.
Like this is what her life should be right now.
Like it's cute. She finally has like, she can
just bask in her feelings, which is really cute and I'm happy for
her. But does little Nung know that
Big Nung is about to go see one Viva at the gallery?
I, I mean, she might have. I wonder if so, the problem with
like this episode is when, when Big Nung gets the phone call, we
don't know who called her. Was it Juan Viva being like,
hey, there's some people that wanna come buy stuff?
Like I, I, I assume it was a work call, but like, did little
Nung know it was Juan Viva? I don't know.
Either way, big nung and wine. Viva, go to a gallery to go to
Big Nung's gallery. Yeah, go to Big Nung's gallery.
Sorry to close this big deal that these people are going to
rent out the place for the entire year.
Yeah, remember when Big Nun was like, I don't know if I'll make
a profit here? She is immediately like, well,
it's booked for a year thanks to Juan Viva and her connections
and like we're 4 episodes into a fair.
I still don't know how Juan Viva has these connections, but I
would love to know why. She knows a bunch of our people
and also she hung out at the mall long enough.
Oh my. Gosh, like running into people,
starting conversations? I don't know.
I also would love I just would love to know the context of big
knowing and want Viva's friendship, which I don't know
that we're going to get, but I would just love to know how do
they meet Seem like we're going to get it.
Who knows, who knows, Like I just would love to know more
about the context of their friendship and like how did that
kind of go down because she didn't meet her at the mall.
Let's be honest. All right, so then the, the big
hedge fund managers or whoever just bought out this gallery
leave and then Juan Viva and big Nung are talking about it.
And big Nung's like, well, basically being like, thank you
for helping me make this gallery a success 'cause you know, she
was concerned about that. And Juan Viva's like, well, you
can repay me with, Oh my God, this exchange.
She's like, you repay me with a, a private class and nung's like,
why are you telling me this? Do you want to get started right
now? And it's like, is it just me or
did this sound like flirting? Like, I know for Big Nung, it's
not. But if Little Nung knew about
this particular exchange and she overheard this after like just
flipping out the prior night, like she would murder Juan Viva
and probably Big Nung, let's be honest.
This. Is absolutely flirting and
little nung. Would.
Definitely hate it. The thing is, I don't think Big
Nung knew this was flirting. I think that this is just her
personality with friends, right? With Juan Viva, yeah.
Yeah, I. Agree, like she matches the
other person's personality when she I think they just have a
flirty friendship is what it is. And I don't think Juan Viva
means any harm by it either. I don't think so, no.
At this at this stage Juan Viva has her girlfriend so she would
never. But like yeah, they think they
just have a flirty relationship cause Juan Viva seems like
pretty extroverted to me anyway. But, yeah, little long, if she
overheard that, would have murdered both of them on the
spot. OK, so then they're talking.
And Juan, Viva's like, OK, well, instead of, like, giving me a
quote, private lesson, whatever that means, why don't you just,
like, tell me what's going on with you and Chet and Big
Bang's, like, what? What do you mean?
Well, why are you bringing a bag?
Right. What the hell are you talking
about? Juan Viva, are you OK?
Juan Viva's like, you don't know because you're involved.
What do you mean you don't know? Like how do you not know?
How do you not know? So she pulls up this like
Internet article or something. I don't even know that.
Basically there's an article out there in the news saying that
like big non the ML Sipacorn and Chet, the wannabe Prime Minister
or whatever are like back together or whatever.
And like we get this like on Juan Viva's phone, the photo
they used and like, OK, I'm sorry, this photo looks like
it's AI because there's no way big non posed for photos with
Chet ever. They're like an opposite frames.
It looks like there's a divider. I'm like this looks Photoshop.
This looks like AI put this together.
This isn't supposed to be them together.
This is the typical tablet where they have like one photo of the
one person, the other photo of the other person.
It was never supposed to be them in the same room.
It looks like AI to me. Well, 'cause like they were
together in the past and they look younger in these photos.
So I'm like, this is like a past photo, but it also looks like
AI, where they're just like, grabbed images and put it
together and we're like, yeah, yeah, we'll fabricate a
relationship. So anyway, so that happens.
And Big Nung's like, oh sweet lesbian Jesus it.
This is out there for the entire world to see and Big Nung only
cares about one person in this world finding it out.
So cut over to that one person who is at school, I don't know
outside studying where UE comes along and UE is like hey hey I
actually know they're studying. And UE is like oh shit you
should see this what the hell is this?
And UE shows Lil Nung the article that Juan Vivo was just
showing big Dong and I don't know why UE was UI has a Google
alert because UI cares. About her friend, I don't know.
I think you were just. Strolling and was like oh fuck
'cause like. It's really.
Huge news. That's what I mean.
It's royal family shit and like Prime Minister politics.
This was probably trending in Thailand I would assume the
minute it released. And you is like oh shit isn't
this your dad? And big non and little non.
Her reaction to looking at this reads is like pissed off, like
she's pissed off that the world is going to think that Big Nung
is dating somebody else. So one once again, this could
all be avoided if they could go public with their relationship
right now, which is like right now is what Little Nung wants
despite the backlash and stuff. But like, so she's frustrated.
She's like, damn it again, it's all 'cause last night somebody
saw them. Like he gave her flowers and all
the bullshit. She's like, I hate fucking hate
this. She just, you know, the points
of like. Good chat, bad chat like little
it's just all she's like fuck that guy.
I can't believe I'm related to this bitch like but like The
thing is, not only is it someone.
Else. It's her dad I know which is
worse because it's so much worse.
Find out about their relation. Can you imagine everybody's
reaction to this 'cause everyone knows that she was supposed to
get married to him, right? That's that's a whole other part
of this relationship that's messed up and fucked up and why
they have to be careful about this.
Cause yeah, Big Nung isn't with Chet.
She's with her like 20 year old daughter.
Like, it's so much worse. If the tabloids got a hold of
their relationship, forget it. Like, gosh.
And if they ever felt God about they, they'd have their own
murder board. No, like literally that's that's
what I mean. And like in this, in this
episode too, you'll see like little Nung again, it's
reinforced she hates being on the spotlight.
And like part of big Nung is that she's a famous person by
birth. So like when their relationship
comes out, it's gonna make her famous.
Like that's part of it. And that's also scary for
somebody who like doesn't want that.
That's a whole nother component of their relationship they don't
actually get into in the show. But like, how does little Nung
feel when it's like, suddenly she's a household name because,
you know what I mean? Like, she's dating the queen.
Like, she's going to marry the queen.
Like, that comes with that territory.
And we never get into that. But I feel like that would make
Lil Nung also really uncomfortable.
And like, yeah, Big Nung wants to stay out of the spotlight.
But like, there's only so much of that you can do when it's
like public knowledge that like this famous person is dating
this other person. You know what I mean?
She also has a podcast, which I don't think she fully
understands that when you have something like that, people are
gonna know you. But anyway, she does, she got a
video podcast. She does audio only.
So that's different. That's different.
So yeah. So bottom line is that little
line is upset at the chat non bullshit story, as she should
be. Yes, I'm upset.
So what do we do when we're upset?
We go visit the emotional support lesbians.
We sure do. And stop at this.
Grocery store to get limes first?
Absolutely. And so Big Nong is over with Mon
and Sam and Big Nong is chewing on her thumb, lost in thought
'cause she's worried as fuck. And Sam is like, Nung, stop
biting your nails. And Nung has the audacity to be
like, I wasn't biting your nail, my nails and Sam's like, I
literally just watched. I just pulled your whole thumb
out of your mouth 3 seconds ago. Juan's my witness.
What do you mean you weren't doing this?
You, you really were. And again, the brain cell
sharing thing, let us go back to one O 6 when like little Nung
was waiting for the university results that she was literally
chewing on her thumb. And Nung's like, don't do that.
They both do that when they're really worried about something.
So they share that in comment in case you missed that.
OK. But again, Speaking of brain
cells, so the only person in this scene who has a brain cell
is Mon. So Mon reads Big Nun's behavior
as worried and she's like, you seem upset about something.
And then Big Nun, obviously she's really distracted and is
asked the stupidest question of all times, which is hey Sam,
Mon, have you 2 ever had a fight before?
Someone needs to send a copy of GAP to Big Nung.
If they can read Blank, they can watch GAP, right?
Or the GAP novels probably. No one could probably get it for
her podcast. Yeah, Big Nung is clearly never
seen or read GAP because Sam and Mon fighting was the plot of Gap
the series. So pain was the plot.
Little Nung should really read Big Nung the Gap novel because
they are novels. There's more than one anyway.
In all seriousness, I think this question reveals how Big Nung
sees her sister's relationship. OK, that's what this is really
revealing. She thinks Sam and Mon are the
perfect couple and they're always in the show from what we
see and from what Big Nung sees, because she didn't see the gap
stuff. They're always like very loving
around each other. So from an out and supportive
and so from an outsider's point of view, they look like a couple
that always gets along. So that's how she perceived
their relationship. And she's like, have you ever
fought 'cause like, I don't get that vibe from you guys.
No, not when you need so many limes with them, but right so.
So basically Mon's like, OK, did you and Little Nung fight?
And Big Nung's like, no, we don't fight.
And they, they really don't like the, you watch the two of them,
they're just like, I'm just gonna do art while you're
reading. Like they don't fight with each
other. Big Nung's like, no, there's
always something else that comes up that makes us uneasy or that
like, uneasy being like, affects the relationship.
And by uneasy, it's usually Big Nung getting in her head about
shit, right. And Oh my God, sorry, I didn't
fully like go into all of the, the steps of these.
OK, so when I wrote my notes, OK, so basically she's like, no,
no, no, we, we don't, we don't fight with each other.
It's just something else is like an outside force is like
influencing our relationship and that's what causes problems.
And then Nung's like, what? What the hell did you guys ever
fight about? Cause again you guys seem like
the perfect couple. So Sam decides to lead this
which is a mistake and Sam's like well you know nung in the
beginning Maan would always like to fight with me over my ML
status and Maan's face she's like Sam that is 100% not what
happened in our relationship. What the hell are you saying the
Sam tried to like gloss over all of her bullshit that caused all
the issues and they were also. Like Maan Mcneter.
Brought up her title. No, it was OK.
They're the whole crux of their bullshit was actually yeah, like
Sam's ML status is was the crux of the issue because the Grand
man traumatized Sam so Sam couldn't express herself to save
her life. So that was half of the problems
in Gap and then the other problem was the grand Man.
So like, her title actually was the problem, but like, Maude was
never the one who was like, Sam, I can't date you 'cause you're,
oh, I guess Maude was like, didn't feel worthy of Sam
because of Sam's title, so maybe that's what she meant.
And Mom's like, no, bitch, that was definitely not the main
problem. The main problem was your
ineptitude with your fucking feelings, and that's why you
almost lost me and I almost went to Britain.
And then Sam's like, no, but like I did chase after your
mom's, like I didn't know you were chasing me.
And the whole time they're getting into this conversation,
Nung is just watching them. Like what the fuck can of worms
that I just opened? I don't want to know all this
stuff. She's.
Like they do fight. Yeah, like they're fighting in
front of her. And.
And also like Nung looks more and more bored as this keeps
going. And then this is the thing where
she does. She puts the T down.
She's like, back to me. We're here to talk about me.
I'm not here to get into whatever the hell this is.
We don't have. Time to go through 12 episodes
of Gap right now. Oh my God, so funny.
But like, it was funny. Like Nung's reaction to them
fighting was really funny 'cause Sam's like, why did we get on
this topic where I'm the bad guy and Nung's just like drinking
TV? And like, I knew these bitches
weren't perfect. Like they have issues too.
I think I this is definitely needed for a big Nung to see
because it's easy to think that the people around you are
perfect, especially when they're presenting themselves that way.
Like it's Instagram culture, right?
Like, yeah, yeah. Where you're like, Oh my God,
you seem so perfect as like, yeah, I'm only showing the
world. The good part.
It's not the bad. Remember Nung, you know, this
mentality, it's be perfect on the outside.
Never let anyone see your weaknesses like.
It's your fault. She fell for it.
She fell for it when it came to Sam and Mom's relationship.
Yeah, but yeah, it is important 'cause then nung's like, well,
if you guys have your issues and can get through it and survive
the grand ma'am, like, you know, yeah.
I mean, they had to do their relationship with the grand Man
still alive, right? Exactly.
Noam got to Noam spared. Remember one O 4 big, the one O
3, the Grand man was like, who's this?
And I was like, get out of here a little and you don't meet her
at all. Get out of here.
You don't. No, we're not doing this.
We're not getting into this. Yeah, Big Monk spared little
Monk of all this bullshit. Absolutely.
OK. But I love this argument with
Sam and Mom where they start arguing with each other over
what happened to Gap because it's peak them where Sam's like
it wasn't that bad and Mom's like it was the worst thing in
the world. Sam, you're an asshole.
What are you talking about? And Sam, why are we fighting?
Mom's like you are so and starting and ending every
episode crying. Oh my God, I know like it's just
it's so them like just the way Sam's like it was all man's
fault and man's like it was your fault.
Sam, what do you mean? It's like why are we fighting?
But big non eventually it's just like back to me.
We're here to talk about me. We're not here to talk about gap
the series. So Big Non gets into like, why
she's really worried, OK, and why she's talking about fighting
and she's worried that like, Little Nung is going to get sick
and tired of all this drama when it comes to like, her ML
girlfriend's bullshit, right, 'cause like, this is bullshit
that comes with Nung just being who she is, right?
The tabloid stuff. And when she does bring up the
tabloid stuff to Sam and Ma and Sam's like, oh, I see you're not
actually worried about this rumor with Chet affecting you.
You're worried about Little Nung and how she's going to take this
news. And Nung's like, yeah, so like,
she's like, I'm worried we're gonna get into a fight over
this. Cause again, this is something
outside of my control that's gonna affect my relationship.
I'm worried about this. And she's like, I'm worried
we're gonna fight about this. And so she asks Sam and Mon,
she's like, OK, you just gave me a demonstration that you guys do
fight about stuff. I just watched to do it.
OK, but do you ever get sick and tired of this 'cause it seems
like you guys had a lot to work through that I wasn't aware of.
But like, do you ever get sick and tired of it?
Like, just like fighting with each other over and over again?
Obviously not 'cause they're still together knowing no, and
they're still together and they fought a lot.
So Maude explains. She's like, like in the moment,
you don't feel great when you're fighting, obviously.
But like she's like, after we talk it through, then we
understand we're, we're coming each other's coming from and we
build a stronger relationship once we understand each other
more, right. And then Sam, Sam has fuck boy
energy in this scene for some reason.
And Sam was like, listen, Nung, really what it is is that I'm
really good at getting Mon to forgive me.
And Big Nung's face when Sam says this, like, Oh my God,
she's like, I don't believe you at all, Sam.
And like she's, I think Nung is judging herself in this moment.
She's like, I can't believe I've been taking advice from my
sister. She's a fucking idiot and she's
like, I need new queer friends to talk to Which?
Yeah, No. Where's your queer friend group?
Seriously. No, seriously, what?
She needs a queer friend group? I.
Agree, I would. Say go to gym, but I think that
also would say that even more useless.
This would be just as terrible. I think maybe Juan Viva could
have helped you a little bit, but I don't know.
I I would tell her to go to. Tea or and then I.
Thought, go find Cher and Marissa because you spent time
on their property. But.
And then I was like, Oh my God, could you imagine the big gay
energy if Big Nung and Cher hung out?
Oh, my God. That would be able to see it
from space. Yeah, that's a lot of big gay
energy. The two of the.
I mean, yeah, they were in a scene together.
Forget it. They'll be over.
Actually, no, Those two actors, they have crossed paths and they
know each other. And I saw clips of like those
two actors, like Cher and Phi, like doing something together.
It's so much big gay energy when they're in the room together.
It's kind of insane. That'd be amazing.
Where's their show of like a buddy cop show?
They don't need to be together. They just need to be like a
buddy cops and then like have their own love interests.
I don't think they should be No, no, no.
The two of them, yes, like a buddy cop, buddy cop.
They're best friends and they're both like dealing with
relationships, like giving each other terrible advice and like
best friends. I would love this, whatever this
is. I I think we need to write this
at some point. That would be an amazing show.
And then like, Oh my God, yeah. And then info somewhere in it.
Info could be like shares the actors love interest and then
like obviously Yoko is you'll have interests because you can't
pair her their their capistry is too good Like don't don't even
bother with that. But yeah, I want some like
ridiculous ROM com thing with the two of them as friends and
like now be amazing because yeah, lots of big energy when
they were the word together. Amazing.
Anyway, that was a very necessary tangent that thank you
big nong and your face your I just love Lou.
She's like my sister is a fucking idiot.
Her face cuz like Sam is an idiot like I love Sam, Sam and
Mon are their trope is idiots in love.
That is just that is one of my favorite tropes ever.
That is their relationship. They're idiots and I love that
Nong is just like, why do I keep coming to you for advice?
You're clearly a disaster. I'm asking you for advice.
So funny. All right, and so then like,
yeah, this is when they're starting to argue and like and
big nong's like I'm really over you guys.
Yes, sorry. OK, so then Bing Dong finally
reveals, like, what she's actually afraid of.
She's worried that they're gonna fight and then they can't get
through it because there's so much shit outside coming in on
them. Like, they know that they can
get through stuff together, any issue they have in their
relationship. But like what happens when the
weight of the world becomes too much?
And then Sam, Sam is just being Sam once again.
And she says if verbal language doesn't work, then try using
another language instead. This was one of the funny I
said, I love how Sam does this. So hold on.
I want to go back to like the like she's like, what if?
And I was like, what if we fight and I am, I can't reconcile with
her. Like, what if like it ends the
relationship? I think there are other reasons
she's bringing us up now. It's not just the chat thing,
but it's like they're going to have to keep going through
multiple battles like this. So I think Nung's like, OK, it
happened with Auntie Nam. She didn't seem super happy with
that this morning. Now we're going to go through
this again with Chet. Eventually her, the rest of her
family is going to find out like, and we're going to have to
keep going through this over and over and over again before we
get to like a place where we're like, we're open and we can
finally just be ourselves. And she's like, what if like we
keep ending up in this cycle where we're fighting and like,
little one gets tired of it. Like I'm prepared to go through
this because Nung's been thinking about this.
She knows it's an uphill battle. She knows it's more than one
battle to win the war, right? Metaphorically speaking.
And so like, she's ready for that.
She's like, I'm worried that Lung's getting a bored and be
like, you're not worth it, Nung. You're not worth all of this
stress. You're not worth like our
relationship's not worth this. I'm tired.
Like she's worried about that. So she's like, I want to do my
best to like, keep talking, talking through this with Little
Nung because I feel like we're not on the same page when it
comes to the reality of the uphill battle we're facing.
I think it's starting to sink in for Little Nung.
But she's like, I don't think she fully gets it.
And I'm worried that after a while she's going to get bored
of like having the same fight over and over again because
like, our situation is what it is.
So she's like, what do I do if like I can't like win her over
like and I can't fix the fight So fucking dumb ass again.
Fuck boy, Sam, I was like, come here nun, I'll tell ya.
And she's like, well, if your words don't work, use a love
language basically. And what to which big nun hears?
It takes her a minute to be like, oh, OK.
And what big nun hears is absolutely rail her to distract
her. Got it.
I can do that. I've done it before, but Sam is
not the answer, by the way. But listen, that's what big man
here. She's like, absolutely real
hurt. Got it.
And then what? What Sam was actually meeting
was like like, no, like just like pretend to be a dog or
something like do the sham be a sham sham.
Like that's what that's what Sam was like.
I use other, I use non verbal language.
She pretends to be a dog and that's wins over.
Remember Mon, Mon cannot resist the sham sham thing.
Anytime Sam's like I'm sham, sham the dog.
Mon's like, whatever, Sam. I don't even know what we're
arguing about. So that's what Sam actually
meant in this conversation. And Nung's like, sex, got it.
Sex sounds like that's not what I meant.
Because again, your sister's a dumb ass and you should not be
taking advice from Sam seriously.
Ma needs to take control of this conversation.
Like she, you know what Ma should have done?
Should have taken the cookie and been like, stop talking Sam.
Like feed it to Sam. Sam, stop talking.
Don't listen to Sam. Don't listen to Sam.
But the way Nong interpreted what Sam was saying, 'cause
she's like, oh, sex, got it. Yes, sex does work.
And then mom's like, God damn it, you 2 fucking sisters.
I can't with the two of you. She gets embarrassed and like
takes a cookie and gets out of there because Sam is the worst.
She's like, why am I with you Sam?
And like she leaves and I love that Sam and Nung like then they
tease mom a little bit when she leaves, she's like, your wife is
thirsty. I don't know.
I'm like, have you bet little Nung little long 10,000 times
worse. But no, I love the the line
cause fake, fake Nung is like lowering her face, like I think
Mon's hungry. And then they start laughing
like a girl's thirsty. I'm like, Nung, what about your
girl? Your girl would have been like,
yeah, Nung does that all. If little Nung was at this
table, she'd be like, yeah, Nung tries to do that now and it
doesn't work. Nung, damn it.
Like she would call her out for the sex stuff.
Like to be like, she, yeah, she tries that with me and it
doesn't work anyway, 'cause little Nung will be like, that
was fun. Back to the fight.
Like damn it. So anyway, I what I love about
this conversation at the end, I love that Sam and Nung are in a
place where they can bond over stuff like like this is like
cheeky sister shit and they're just like bonding and it's very
cute, poor at poor Mon's expense, but it's really, really
cute. But I love that like Mon leaves,
she's pissed off and at Sam and but Sam's not concerned.
She's like, don't worry, I'll make it up to her later with
some sham, sham stuff. Like it's like, goddamn it with
this idiot. Sam's such an idiot she is.
All right, so that's Part 1. Let's get into Part 2.
So after talking to the useless lesbians with their advice, Big
Nun goes back to pick up Little Nun when her class is over and
she's posted up against the car. Just like the bitch looks
pressed, like she's very lost in thought.
Like what am I going to do? We're about to get into a fight.
This is like what Little Nung was feeling in the morning where
she's like, we're going to fight.
I I'm mentally preparing myself for the fight.
I'm mentally preparing to lose the fight.
That was Little Nung. But she woke up this morning.
She's like, I was in the wrong or I'm going to lose the fight.
She's going to be mad at me. This is basically the same scene
playing out with the opposite partner.
So when Big Nung sees Little Nung approach, she notices
Little Nung's alone and she's like, oh, where are your
friends? Are you like, AKA like, where
are your bodyguards at? I left them with you.
I gave them clear instructions to protect you.
Protect you. Where are they at?
Maybe I should pay them. So little monk's like, I ditched
them. It's fine.
And big monk's like, OK. And then Little Monk gets into
the car by herself. So as I brought up in the last
episode, any time Little Nun gets in the car, Big Nung opens
the door, closes the door. She does her gentlewoman shit.
So when Little Nung goes to the, it opens and they make eye
contact. She's like, no, I'm doing this.
You're not doing this. Little Nung doesn't say
anything, just like very quietly, somberly gets in the
car by herself. And Big Nung is very taken,
taken aback because she's like, oh, she must be mad at me, like
really mad because I usually open the door and she's not
letting me open the door. Oh shit, I'm in trouble.
This is already going poorly. So then Big Nug gets in the car
and they drive away and the car is dead silent.
Little Nug, who's always talking to mile a minute is quiet.
So like, poor Big Nug, she's like losing it on the inside
because she's like, oh, fuck, this is going to be bad.
And Big Nun keeps looking at Little Nun like, oh, no, oh, no.
All right, well, OK, let's see. You got to start somewhere.
So Big Nung tries to start with small talk.
She's like, how is school? And Little Nung's like, I saw
the news. Like does not engage.
Does not engage. She's like, I saw the news.
And Big Nung's like, fuck, she's like, it's nothing.
It's nothing. I don't even know him and I
don't even know him. That was an AI photo.
And Little Nung makes this face. She's like, is she for real
right now? And then she's like, I know you
don't need to explain. It was my dad.
They do not need to explain neither of us.
Like we've had multiple conversations of what a
douchebag this dude is, how little Little Nug thinks about
this man she's genetically related to.
And just like, leave it to little Nug to constantly throw
Big Nug off her game because she was again, preparing for the
fight and Lola was like, what are you talking about?
I don't care because big nun was not expecting this response at
all. She was prepared to do all the
groveling and engage in sexy shirt button games, do sham
sham, whatever the hell she had to do to like get Lil mug to
forgive her. She's like she was psyching
herself up for all of those things and then I was like I'm
not mad what the hell are you talking?
What's wrong with you? The thing is, I wasn't expecting
this either because. Like.
When Little Nun got in the car, she looked like she was going to
make Big Nung sleep in the driveway, right?
And I just, I've been trying to figure out this reaction and I
just can't because I feel like her reaction should have been
asking Big Nung what the hell is happening?
Like, what are we going to do with this?
Like tabloid news? Especially like if she.
Didn't believe that this was true.
Like, this would make sense if she thought that there was some
truth in it, but she knows that this would never be a thing.
Yeah, it's weird. I think, I think Lil Lung's just
tired. When she gets in the car, she's
just like, 'cause like she was drunk.
I don't think she slept last night.
I think she was exhausted. Went to school, 'cause at the
end of the conversation, Lil Big Nung's like, are you tired?
Lilong's like, I'm really tired. I think you're just tired.
And like, she gets in the car and she's not bubbly.
She's just like, I'm just the class was a lot.
I'm just tired right now. I was drunk this morning like
I'm tired. So like she didn't even react to
this. And also like it's fake news and
she knows it and she's like like because look at what I'm sorry.
Look at what happened last night.
Look what happened last night at the gallery opening.
Like she saw her, she was pissed off.
She's like, my dad is openly courting my girlfriend in front
of me. She like he gave her flowers.
Wandy was like, is this your girlfriend?
Can I take your girlfriend away? Like so like, of course this
comes out and it's like, like, that's fair girl.
Your dad is exhausting. Your dad is exhausting.
Oh my God. Big Dong has a conversation with
him later. I was tired of just watching her
have the conversation with him 'cause he's an idiot.
Oh my God, he and it's always the same thing over and over.
He doesn't listen when people are talking to him, does not
listen. That is his issue.
So it's repetitive because the bitch is not listening.
It's like talking to a wall. Anyway, we'll unfortunately get
there later. So Big Nung is like, wait a
minute, you're not mad over the because like you, because Big
Nung is like you flipped out last night about Juan Viva and
your dad and all this boy. I don't think she even thought
about Chet. I think she's more like Juan
Viva, which you know well because she's not competition
exactly. I don't think anyone's thinking
about him. And they're like, and then this
came out because we can't go public and she's like, I thought
you were any mad and you're not you're not mad.
Yeah, my mom was like, I know you're not interested in chat
because like, who the fuck would be interested in chat?
Like who would want your mom was the reason why he's still
single. Why was pig foot into him?
I think it was a desperate move. I don't think she was
definitely. Let's get over big dung thing,
right. She was moving on.
Yeah, exactly. That was the hookup a rebound.
He's a rebound. And like she closed her eyes and
I mean, you can't really picture, but she'd like thought
about big Nung singer and we just came through it, right.
She closed her eyes and thought of big Nung.
Exactly. All right.
So instead a little Nung immediately like lights up here
because she's like, I mean, I'm not mad, but I think it's real
cute. You thought I was going to be
mad about this because Little Nung is more enamored by the
fact that, like, Big Nung was worried about her reaction to
this. Like, obviously fake news.
And so without. So she's like, you're afraid I
was going to be mad at you. And what I love in this
conversation is that, like, without hesitation, Big Nung
expresses her dark feelings. Remember the big conversation
they had in 202? Big Nung is now more open about
things that bother her with Big Nung, little Nung.
And she does it in this conversation where she just,
like, pours her heart out. And she admits that, like,
there's so many outside forces that are causing issues in our
relationship, and she's afraid that little Nung is going to get
tired of all the drama and leave.
Like, that's what she's ultimately afraid of, little
Nung leaving her and, like, disappearing from her life, that
she's terrified of losing Little Nung.
So that's why she was freaking out so much about this.
I was like, Sam, what do I do if, like, the arguing doesn't
work? Like, she went to Sam.
That's how scared she was. Yeah, stupid, stupid, stupid
idea. But I get it.
You're like, maybe my sister will have good advice this time.
Yeah, always. Because I, I think at the at the
end of the day, Big Nung is a person whose drama at first
meaning like she hates confrontation, she hates drama
and she would get tired of all of this repetitive drama if the
drama revolves around literally anybody else in her life.
Besides you watched her in the conversation with Sam and Mon.
The minute they started getting into the drama, she got bored so
fast. She's like, I don't care about
any of it and you're my sister and I love you.
I don't want to be involved in your drama.
I'm already bored. It's been 3 seconds.
So like, imagine having to like listen to their fights over and
over. She'd be like, I can't with I'm
leaving. I can't with the two of you.
I have a Taylor Swift song. This is why we can't have nice
things. Oh yeah, to listen to drama.
Anyway, continue before I forgot my song for this episode is
Cardigan. I think that's that's a big nung
little nung song for sure. Cardigan where it's like, oh
shit, hold on, I can't think of it.
Well, first of all, learning's perspective.
I knew I knew everything when I was young and everybody keeps
telling me like basically like you're too young to understand
your feelings. And she's like, no, I knew even
when I was young, like you would haunt me my entire life like
that. You were the one basically.
And then from Big Nung's perspective, she's like, I was a
cardigan under a bed and you found me or like you're my
favorite. Like that's literally them,
like, and then Big Nung does the thing where like tried to change
the ending, Peter losing Wendy when like that's where we get
later in the in the season where she's like, no, like you're
better off without me. And then my mom's like, no, I
see what you're doing. I see you're trying to change
the ending where and I know we end up together.
Like, yeah, that that's them. It's a very them song.
Got it all right, so anyway, so big non and little long are into
this and like little long after big non pours her crowd out,
she's like she's like, oh, now I'm actually going to get really
mad if you think that I'm going to leave you over this.
Like we might actually get into an actual fight right now.
If you really think that that of me that I'm going to get tired
of like fighting for our relationship basically.
What I mean? Lil Nung did get in the car
'cause she is exhausted. I mean yes she's tired but like
it is exhausting having to deal with Chad always becoming an
issue. Hopefully I mean.
I I really. Hope that in like 20 years he's
still not an issue. Like he just hasn't accepted
anyway, just continue. OK, so Lil Nung says basically
like we might actually get into a fight now.
And I think that this is exactly Little Nung's sentiment, which
is why she immediately gets offended at the suggestion that
she could ever get tired of fighting for their relationship.
And the fact that Big Nung would even think that is like what's
going to cause the actual argument 'cause she's like, have
I not proved to you time and time again that like I'm
100,000,000% in this relationship?
Like what the hell, I'm going to argue with you for real if you
think that I'm not. And then Big Nung said it
basically admits she's worried about the future 'cause she's
like, I don't know what's going to happen in the future.
That's what I'm worried about. Like their future.
OK, so can we talk about the fact that they never on screen
have a direct conversation about what their relationship is like?
They never actually have one, if you think about it, ever.
In the show, they both just casually mention things that
strongly imply that the two of them think of each other as long
term partners. Like, yeah, a little wrong, like
spouts up things like we should get married one day, blah, blah,
blah. But like they never sit down and
talk about getting like they never have the conversation
about it. They never sit down and go what
is our relationship? They never have that
conversation. They just like they through
their conversations and through that they're casually mentioning
things you can see like the headspaces of both characters.
So like, yeah, let alone being like we should get married one
day. That's where her heads at.
We see it very early, but big none right here is like, I'm not
really worried about this right now.
I'm worried that like I don't know what's going to happen in
the future. Like as we keep fighting for
this, like indicating she thinks of Little Nung as a long term
partner without saying it right, 'cause like Little Nung's been
trying to get her to label the relationship and Big Nung
doesn't. But she's saying things like
this that indicate like what Big Nung thinks about them and, and,
and the fact that they are actually on the same page with
their relationship, even though they don't directly talk about
it. So I do love that about them.
Like you, you can see through their actions, like where, what
they think about their relationship.
And then after that, Lil Nung basically was like, oh, are you
afraid? And then Big Nung says nothing,
which means yes. And so little Nung says, well,
I'm also afraid. Like I'm afraid that you're
going to disappear from my life. Which is exactly what big Nung
is afraid of, even though she didn't just say that that's why
she's been freaking out all day. That is what she's worried
about. So they both have one fear.
They both have the same fear, which is that their respective
partners going to disappear. And like, then they don't have
the relationship anymore. And I think because Little Nung
can see just how worried Big Nung is about their relationship
in the future, she immediately reassures Big Nung that she's
not alone. She's like, I'm also afraid of
this. Like, and, you know, like, the
way we're going to get through this is together.
Like, they have each other. And Little Nung admits like, I'm
also scared. Like, she's, you know, they're
scared of the same thing. So Little Nung proposes a deal.
She's like, OK, so we're both afraid of losing each other.
So how about we try to fix this the best we can?
And like, how about we just face all the bullshit that comes at
us together and like, together is how we're going to get
through it, which is a major theme in the show.
Awesome. Because when they try to fight
these battles separately, it goes poorly.
But when they do it together, they're strong.
They're a stronger front as a united partnership than they are
individually. That's another thing that's
reinforced through a lot of the drama in the show, because they
make each other stronger. They're they're an incredible
team, is what it is. And again, Little Nong,
emotionally mature Little Nong knows that.
And to me, it's implied from the conversation earlier that Big
Nong had with Sam and Mon that if they get through these tough
situations, they'll be a stronger couple as a result of
it. Because Nong went into that
conversation going like, you guys are the perfect couple.
Like, did you ever deal with stuff?
And then like in the conversation, it's revealed
like, yeah, we fight, but Mon said it.
She's like, but when we get through the fight, we're
stronger because we know each other better.
We've just dealt with this thing together.
That's what makes our relationship so strong because
of all the fighting we did and the battling they went through.
So that was the other reason we got the same in Mont scene.
So that Nung is like, OK, I have an example of a couple getting
through hardships and they are a very strong couple.
So like, OK, she's more receptive to this thing.
Little Nung is proposing, like, no matter what happens, let's
face it together. And I do love that when Little
Nung is saying all of this to Big Nung, she keeps doing
grounding gestures in the car scene where she'll initiate, she
initiates physical contact with Big Nung every time she senses
that she's upset or scared, like Little Nung, like grabs her
shoulder, pokes her arm, like she's trying to do things to
like ground her. And I think she knows that Big
Nung needs physical contact when she's upset.
Like, let us all recall the song scene where Little Nung held Big
Nung's hand, like against her face.
She like put her hand on top of Big Nung, hand wiped your tears,
held her, all those things. I think she knows that about Big
Nung. And considering Big Nung is
actively driving a car right now, Little Nung is limited in
what she can do. But she does what she can and it
does affect Big Nung. When Little Nung grabs her
shoulder, Big Nung visibly starts relaxing at that touch.
So like it works like again, showing you right here and here
that they are stronger together because what was Big Nung doing
without Little Nung spiraling? And then Little Nung comes over,
pictures her, grounds her with physical gestures, and Big Nung
stops spiraling. Like she stops.
And by the end of the conversation, Little Nung's
like, can you stop thinking about this right now?
Like you're just driving yourself crazy thinking about
all these what ifs. Like we'll face it together when
it comes at us, OK? Freaking about it now is not
going to solve anything. It's just going to make you
upset. So stop thinking about it.
And Big Nung says OK. And like, Pat's Little Nung's
hands and then relaxes, like fully relaxes after that.
And again, the other thing indicator is that when she says
I won't think about this anymore, she does it in the cute
voice. So she's back to, like, being
relaxed, big nut, which is adorable.
And I love this scene because it's a very, like, important,
beautiful bonding moment between them because they just
communicate so well. It's just I can't with them.
I mean, yeah. I we've, we've just talked.
About it so much, but it's just. You.
Can't stop talking about how well they communicate and how
healthy it is. Yes, their relationship is so
healthy it's stupid. I just love it so much.
OK. And something else that happens
at the end of the scene that I like noticed for the first, not
for the first, maybe for the first time.
I can't remember when I was watching it.
So after this gets resolved, then big Nung's like are you
tired? And all those Nung's like I'm so
tired. Like, can we go nap at your
house or whatever? And like, I mean, she doesn't
say that, but I think it's implied.
And big MO looks back at the road and starts smiling, like
full smiling. Like she's really happy because
again, the big thing that she's worried about got resolved in a
beautiful way. And then the then they do this
thing in editing where they like it's slow MO, OK, the way she's
driving and looking at Lil MO and it's slow MO.
And I was like, why is this slow?
Like, this is a gap. They don't just do weird editing
choices in the show. They actually use their editing
and camera techniques fairly purposely in the show.
I'm pretty confident in saying so.
I was like, why is there a slow moment right now?
And I notice in the show there's a couple of them with it's
always big non because, I mean, she's the protagonist.
It's always big non, but to me, I think they're they do these
slow MO things with big Nung when they have big, big Nung,
little Nung like pivotal, probably core memory focused
moments that impact big Nung the most.
So this was a huge moment where little Nung was basically like,
I'm never going to get tired of you.
We're going to get through this together.
And Big Nung comes out of her darkness because Little Nung is
there because they are together and stronger together and she's
happy at the end of it. Like, and they're fine.
Like they got through their fight, like mom said, like no
one's even a fight. They got through the situation
and they're stronger now because of it.
And so like it's proof to big Nung that like, you know, they
can make it. And I think that that was a a
big moment for her to have that kind of moment to be like, we
are going to be OK. And so like, I think that's why
we get this slow MO thing that's like, this is not a moment that
like impact big Nung forever. I think that's why we keep
getting those. It's it's spaced throughout the
show, mostly in season 2, I think.
But like, I think those are big, pivotal big Nung moments for
like this relationship. It's probably her wanting to,
like, slow it down and make sure that she remembers it, like she
said, for it to be a core memory.
Yeah. All right.
So after the core memory is formed, the nuns arrive back at
Little Nung's grandmother's house and park in the driveway.
You know she has to. What is the?
Word. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
Kiss big Nung. I was surprised she didn't
because when I was like, I'm going to finish kissing you in
the car from now on. Yeah, no, like, that's what I'm
trying to call back to. She has to follow her promise.
Yeah, and make sure she finished kissing her in the car, right?
So I'm surprised we didn't get that.
So instead they have a chat in the driveway and I think that
like basically Lil Mong asks, but do you think it's possible
we can just tell everyone we're together?
Because, and I think Lulung is not saying this because she's
like like impatient. Like usually she's just like, I
just want to be out now with you.
I just want to sing dress in public.
Like I don't think that's where this is coming from.
This question. I think the reason she's asking
this is is because of Big Nung's freak out earlier, right?
Like where she was afraid of losing Lil Nung.
And I think that Big Nung was like, yeah, Big Nung was afraid
of losing her. So I think when they arrive,
she's basically asking, like, can we just tell everyone we're
together? Because I would avoid all of
these problems you're worried about, right?
Like, like being meaning that like, hey, this thing with Chet,
the fake news would wouldn't be a thing if we were public with
our relationship. Like, you would be less.
Maybe you'd be less stressed out if we just did it.
RIP the Band-Aid off. That's kind of what Lil Nung's
asking in this conversation. Yeah.
But there'd be so many more issues which big Nung is
thinking about. But little Nung's like, no, we'd
have no issues because everyone would just know.
We don't have to hide. Yeah.
But I think it's funny because, I mean, we do get another.
Can I move in? But it's like, she's replaced.
Can I move in with you with. Can I just shout our
relationship from the rooftop? Like, is it time yet now?
Yeah. I mean again, but like.
And she was doing that before because she's impatient.
And and that's not that's not why she's asking it now.
She's she's asking it because she's worried that big Dong, she
doesn't want big Dong to be upset.
And she's like, maybe we can avoid you being upset if we just
told everybody like, would that fix that?
Because like, again, they both want to fix things for the other
person so little long as like, would this fix things?
And then Big Dong answers with the other fear that she didn't
express earlier, which is like your family.
It would ruin your family, she says.
And Lilong is looks really confused because I don't think
she ever thought about how her family would process this.
Because I think she never thought really beyond having Big
Nung to herself, beyond being happy, beyond Big Nung being
happy. But like Big Nung has been
worried about the family stuff the whole time because she grew
up in this environment and understands Little Nung's
family. Also, like she's had the
sidebars with Chet being a homophobic asshole.
And so even though it's just she's worried, she's like, I
feel we're going to get really, we just got a bad reaction from
Auntie Nem this morning. She's not even related to me.
And like, your family's going to be worse.
So like I'm worried about how it's going to affect you, you,
the woman with no support system in your family.
So big nuns like, OK, let me let me put this in a way that you're
going to understand because clearly you haven't really,
really thought about this. I'm try, I try to bring it up,
but you evade this. How about this?
Remember when we were fighting and we brought Sam to come meet
UE and UE and your dad were having a whole thing?
Remember your dad's reaction to like you fake dating UE or
whatever and he freaked the fuck out?
Remember that and honestly this is a bad example.
I I understand why big Nung brought it up because it's
something that happened but like little nung literally gives 0
fucks about Chet's opinion because she's like I'm not
worried about him he didn't raise me like I owe him nothing
which is valid. Chet is literally nothing to her
completely like blood means nothing if they weren't around
and he like not only was he not around, he chose to not be
around like he knew about her. I mean then we get the thing of
where he doesn't actually he's like is she my daughter?
But he's just, he's so stupid anyway.
Like literally he chose not to be in her life.
He actively chose that. Pingfa did not actively choose
this. Pingfa was banished and robbed
of the relationship. Chet walked away to save himself
from his father's wrath from the he saved himself from the
scandal he caused. And now he's suddenly like, I
want dominion over my daughter and it's like, bitch, go fuck
yourself. Like I really hate Chad.
I really hate him. He's despicable in my mind.
He's terrible. He's terrible.
And now he's trying to like court big Nong even though she
clearly doesn't want that. He's just the worst.
But he only thinks about himself literally only thing and does
not listen to other people. He's terrible.
So but anyway, like, but big Nong is like, listen, I
understand when relatives are terrible, but they're still your
relatives And like, OK, so she cuts off little long.
She's like little long. Don't say things like that.
Like, I understand what you're saying, but like, don't like
he's still your he's still your dad, like, and like maybe you
and like, OK, this is coming from a woman who, like lost her
parents. Big man's an orphan.
So I think part of this is like, yeah, Chad's not ideal, but he's
still like a father and like, he exists and he's not dead.
So like, and and you don't seem to try to have a relationship
with him, but you could have a relationship with your actual
father, like, and maybe you don't want it now, but maybe one
day you'll want that and like, burning the bridge now you'll
never have it. So like, I think Big None wants
her to have the option, you know, because Big None's option
was robbed from her when her parents died.
So I think maybe it's this is coming from her trauma a little
bit, always trauma because she's orphans.
Yeah. So bottom line, big Nung is
like, listen, Chet is still like he's part of your family at the
end of the day, you know? And like they do have to take
into into account the fact that he is a raging homophobe.
Seriously, if they're planning on telling her family one day,
like so big Nung's like, OK, Chet was a bad.
I understand why Chet was a bad example because he is a bad
example. So how about I give you one,
You'll definitely understand. She's like what about your
grandmother? The person that did raise you?
The lung gets real quiet. What she thinks about this
because how would she react? The grandmother that used to
react poorly over bad grades? How is she going to react the
the the grandmother who almost assaulted Nung the first time
Nung dropped her off? Like my God, this grandmother.
All over the place, man. Right?
How is she going to respond to this?
OK, probably not well because she doesn't let Little Long have
friends like and you know, she's still trauma traumatized by
Pingfa. So.
But before Little Nung's thoughts can spiral out of
control, 'cause you can see the the wheels turning and it's not
good. And Big Nung leans across the
console and takes Little Nung's hand.
A grounding gesture for Little Nung and then says I totally
understand you because she does. She's like, I'm the one person
on earth who actually understands your relationship
with your grandmother and I understand how you feel.
So she says you under you love your grandmother, right?
And again, this is big Nung speaking from personal
experience. And little Nung considers this
and then says yes. And so big Nung's like, OK,
like, you love your grandmother and this is a big deal, our
relationship. So, like, I know you don't want
to think about how other people are going to react to us, but
like, there are people in our lives that love us.
And we do need to think about like how this relationship is
going to affect other people Because like, I mean, that's the
lesson Bignung learned the hard way with leaving the palace and
song and all that stuff. Because like at this point in
their relationship, they're in the process of dealing with Big
Nung's family and like coming out to her family.
Sam doesn't care because Sam already dealt with us.
Sam's like great, my sister's happy, but then like anted him
in the palace staff. Like that's kind of like big
Nung surrogate family. And like that's already not
going well, right? So like they're kind of coming
out to one side of the family. She's like your side of the
family is a whole other story. You're directly blood related to
them. You're still like a like a child
in their eyes sometimes. Like you're not fully
independent. Like this is a different
scenario. And like you don't have a Sam.
Like Nung's like I could say fuck my family and I still have
Sam like at the end of the day, like if little Nung says fuck my
family, she has no family. Like that's it.
Like she's an only child with no support system.
So little, a big Nung knows that her like little Nung's family
situation is a lot higher stakes.
And then her family members are going to be more challenging to
deal with because like, the homophobia is already there.
So. OK, so that gives Little Nung
something to think about. And like, Little Nung for once
thinks about it versus just dismissing, quote, what other
people think. So she thinks about it and then
she goes inside the house. So after allegedly off screen
quote finishes kissing, Big Nung then goes inside and inside her
grandmother's cooking in the kitchen.
And she's like, oh, hi, Lil Nung.
It's a shame Big Nung didn't join you that for dinner.
And I bet, I bet MY2 nickels that I have that little one
tried to persuade Big Nun to come inside.
And Big Nun's like your grandmother scares me, first of
all. And also I have gallery things
to do, so no. Oh yeah, she definitely spent
the whole time kissing her. Be like, just commit inside.
Give me another kiss. Are you sure?
Another kiss. You know, you want positive.
She's like, no, I definitely don't want to.
I definitely don't want to. Grandmother's terrifying so all
right, so regardless, big Nog is too busy running her gallery to
like deal with this right now. I I think this is probably what
happened. So a long grandmother or having
a chat and the grandmother pivots immediately from big non
into I heard you're dating a lesbian like like I mean no buff
like just immediately being like so you're dating that tomboy,
right? I thought.
It was more of just like you're friends with because like you're
seeing you're hanging out with them.
No, because Chet talked to her anyway, I think.
I think it's implied that stuff is happening.
And like I think little little freaks out when she hears this
because I think her brain jumps to big Nung and she's like, oh
shit, you know, I'm seeing big. Like seeing somebody is
different than like hanging out with or like I think it implies
more than just friendship. So I think she's like, oh shit,
you know about me and big Nung. And so little Nung tries to play
it cool and she's like, what do you mean?
Who do you mean? And the grandmother responds,
Your misfit father told me about UE little lung looks her face
journey. She's like, thanks, lesbian
Jesus. She doesn't know about the
actual lesbian I'm getting. I think her brain went to big
nug and this conversation was like, oh, thank God.
And then she's like, Oh yeah, you, you as a good person, you
know. And the grandmother turns
immediately into homophobia street by saying, So what?
She's still a lesbian. You shouldn't be hanging out
with her or seeing her or doing anything indicating that in the
grandmother's brain, sexuality Trump's morality and everything
else. So like UE's a bad person
because UE's queer and Liwong's like no, UE's a good person
like, and the grandmother's like, how could she be?
She's a sexual deviant. That's like, oh, oh, the
homophobia is on full display. Yes.
And like, this is such a big thing that does happen and it
makes no sense because. You.
Could be best friends with someone and then all of a sudden
someone just thinks less of you because of your sexuality.
It doesn't make it like it doesn't change who you are.
I I don't understand it. I don't understand why this is a
thing. Homophobia.
The hell of a drug anyway, again, but from Big Little
Mung's grandmother's point of view, remember she's the one
who's traumatized by Pingfa's social scandal when she was
young. So she's like, the scandal this
will bring I think is where her brain is at.
You associating yourself with a queer person.
So she tells Little Mung, I don't want you to be close to
that kind of person because I again, it's the association, the
scandal. And Little Mung's face falls
because this is the only family member she truly loves.
Like twisted relationship. That's the whole theme with
these grandmothers. But she does love her
grandmother like Nung did. So like, this must be so
heartbreaking to find out that like, she's also homophobic,
like Chet, like she's learning that right now about the person
who raised her, the person who allegedly loves her.
Like, she's like, wow, you 2. Yeah.
It's easy to be like, oh, my grandmother will accept when you
don't. Actually, no.
But this was a great opportunity for Little Numb to feel out
more. Stuff.
About what's going on. It's a great opportunity for
like, 'cause if she were to. Come in.
Just be like, hey, so how do you feel about lesbians?
That would be like, you ever see the L Word?
It's like, hey grandpa, I have a show I wanna show you.
I think that you might like it. Can you imagine the grandmother
watching? No, not at all.
Yeah. So little man gets an idea.
She's like, why don't I just test the waters a bit more now
that we're on this topic? So I don't have to.
I can't because, again, like, awkwardly bringing up lesbians
to ask the question would be weird.
So she's like, you brought it up.
So, like, how about I find out what I really want to know?
So she asks, well what if I was to publicly?
Date. Ewie, what if I did that?
And like, why is she asking this?
Because to me, there's a difference between your loved
one doing something bad, like the theoretical concept of
little Nung quote, seeing UE, and then there's actually doing
it and the reaction you get from the other, the other person is
different, whether it's hypothetical versus a real
thing, right? So I think she wants to know how
her relationship with Big Nung would be received.
Like, would the grandmother accept them if it was actually a
thing? And the grandmother answers with
homophobia. And she says, like, basically
what the grandmam said to Sam, you're a girl, how could you
love another girl? That's unnatural.
And little one gets real quiet while she's processing this
heartbreaking news that her grandmother possibly would never
accept her. And she gets really uneasy and
asks like. And the grandmother asks her
like, wait, are you already dating this person?
And the ones like no, I am definitely not dating you.
I was just asking. And the then the grandmother's
like don't even ask me that because don't make me sad even
thinking about that because I'm so traumatized about your
mother. She then puts little nun OK.
She equates the shame of Ping Pho and Chet's teenage pregnancy
to little nun, an adult possibly dating a woman.
OK I don't like this comparison at all but I like it better than
the comparison and gap when they were trying to equate Sam and
Mon to Chin cheating on his wife.
That was so bad. They're like it's forbidden
love. It's like no they are.
Those are not the same thing. Those are not the same.
My brain went to I don't know why I like I like to put the
Ping Pho and Chen thing out of my mind.
Apparently I thought the grandmother was talking about
Ping Pho having a crush on Big Numg and I forgot that she
doesn't know about that. She didn't know who big nun was
she like it makes sense that she doesn't know.
So I was about to comment asking if this was like the first time
that little Nung heard about her mom.
I'm still I just want little Nung to like know about this
back story. I know I would love it, but no,
this is this is basically the grandmother saying like, don't
shame me because like her, why did Lumong have such a traumatic
childhood? Because Ping, you know, she's
paying for the crimes of Pingfa's like teenage pregnancy
her whole life. So here she is still in the
shadow of that bullshit where the grandmother's basically
saying you can't now that you're out in university and making
friends, the thing I forbade you from doing in high school, you
better be making the right friends and you're not going to
date the wrong people. So like the grandmother's still
like exerting control over little nung now and be and
equating it to her mother and saying don't shame me by dating
the wrong person. Basically.
She's like, I can't handle that. I'm too old for this shit
basically. Her heart can't.
Take it. Yeah, right.
We don't know her heart condition, but yeah, exactly.
But to me, this comparison must be so heartbreaking for a little
nung because she knows how broken up her grandmother is
about her. Like what her mom did so like to
be equated to Pinkfa is like the ultimate shame.
Like I feel so bad for a little nun.
She gets so much heartbreaking news in this conversation with
her grandmother. That was a.
Lot for her to take in right now, right?
Her her world is. Crashing at this point, right
and this is again again, why did she bring up the what if I date
you? Because she wanted to like be
like, OK, well, if it's I was theoretically just hanging out
and seeing them and now what if I'm actually dating them?
Like what's your reaction? Because what's big Nung been
doing with lung long this whole time?
She's like, what if other people find out and react badly and
lung Long's like whatever, fuck them.
It's one thing to theoretically be like, if other people don't
accept this, I don't care. It's a whole other thing to be
in the scenario with somebody you care about who's actively
telling you I will not accept you.
Like this is a reality, an actual reality check for lung
long to be like, oh, this is what Big Nung's been talking
about the whole time. Yeah, this isn't great.
Like, I I don't feel good about this.
And then so the grandmother's like, how about this?
Promise me you're not going to date anybody at all and just
focus on school. No relationships right now,
understand. Got it.
And little Nung hesitates, almost like she wants to tell
her about Big Nung. But then in the end her trauma
response for self preservation kicks in and she lies out of
fear and says I promise I won't date anybody even though she's
in the middle of a relationship right now.
I know that this is like a very serious situation right now.
But we have to. Point out that she didn't think
you promised. So it's basically like having
your fingers crossed behind her back while saying I promise.
Yeah, basically. But like, what's happening?
Little one is being treated like a child in the scene.
And what's her childhood response to this?
Lying to her grandmother to protect herself.
And so it's sad that like, she came into this conversation to
be like, will you accept me? And the grandmother basically
said, no, I will not accept you for who you are.
I will not accept this relationship with big nun.
And no matter how happy and healthy it is, because queerness
automatically makes you immoral and a terrible person.
And so like for her grandmother, like shit all all over her
relationship basically that she knows nothing about.
Just on that premise alone is a lot to like take in and like
then to be equated to Pingfa as like a horrible person for even
theoretically bringing this up. Like and then to make her to
promise no dating right now, like she's being treated like a
child. So like she's like, I guess I
can't be honest with you at all. Like, I have to go back to lying
to you. And so then for the rest, for
the rest of the scene, little Nung just tip toes around the
kitchen while she helps her grandmother cook.
And, like, is just looking at her grandmother.
Like, she's absolutely heartbroken because, like, this
is exactly what Big Nung was trying to warn her about.
She's like, I'm trying to protect you because, like, your
family's not going to be able to handle this.
And, like, here it is. Yeah.
Something else to note about like Season 2.
Your grandmother hasn't. Been around as much because of
little nung, staying with big nung more because of school.
So like. I don't know fully where I'm
going with this, but I'm going to try my best.
So with little Nung coming back home, it's like stepping foot
into this place. It's she's a child.
The other thing is like when Little Mong comes, little Mong's
like a stranger, a little bit more of a stranger now than she
was before because they're spending less time together too.
So it's like little Mong has been, like we've commented,
she's growing. She's growing into her
adulthood. She's growing into an individual
with autonomy and the grandmother's giving her more of
that by like letting her stay out even though she's like being
washed by big Nung or whatever. So like technically she's like
quote with an adult, so she's not low, but like she's coming
into her own and making friends and like she's still being
treated like a child the whole every step of the way where
they're like, that's your friend.
You can't be friends with this person.
Like and it's like, and here she is like getting used to having
all this independence and making her own decisions.
She's used to being around Big Nung who like, listens to her,
respects her and like. Communicates with her versus
like being like, no, you're going to do this 'cause I said
so. And it's like to have to go back
to that is also like annoying to be like, I'm an adult, you know,
you know what I mean? Little long doesn't talk back
'cause like the culturally it doesn't make sense.
But like that's going to be really frustrating to be like,
you're trying to put me back in a box and like, I don't want to
be in the box. And you of all people, the
person that I like, love the most of my family, like I just
feel bad. This is very devastating for
little long to like have to learn this about her
grandmother. Anyway, all right, so later that
night, Big Nung is doing some art before she goes to bed when
Little Nung gives her a call and Big Nung immediately turns on
the charm. She's like, you calling because
you miss me, like obviously, like obviously.
And Little Nung's like why must you tease me when we are apart
like this? That's just unfair.
You pick Meanie. It's really cute that.
Big Nung is now the one teasing. Because we've had so many phone.
Calls and voice messages of Little Nung being the one being
a little brat, but now it's Big Nung.
It's Big Nung overtly flirting, which is a welcome reprieve for
everyone, not just Little Nung. So Big Nung continues very
smoothly. Big Nung very smoothly continues
the flirting by saying, well, when we're apart, that's when
we're we should be the most honest about how we feel.
It's when we should be saying these things, which is true.
Like that's that, that's a valid point.
But Big Nung picks up pretty quickly that little Nung is
upset because she had a conversation with her
grandmother. She's like, you talk to your
grandmother, didn't you? Who could have seen that coming?
Instead of being like, I told you so she's like, why don't you
just tell me about it 'cause? I love that she.
Figured out that that's what it was.
Of course she's like, oh, she was asking me about it
beforehand. Something definitely went bad
when she went inside also like she went in the house, it's just
her and the grandmother. What could have possibly changed
in like the hour that they've been apart or whatever?
So so Little Nung basically explains that her grandmother is
even more homophobic about UI than Chet was and forbade them
from even being friends. Which Chet didn't even go that
far, right? So she's like, wow, she flipped
the fuck out. I didn't, I truly didn't see
that coming. Like ow.
And Big Nung just like patiently listens the whole time.
Little Monk's telling her what's going on.
And then Lola ends this with like, she's upset.
She's like, can I just move in with you now and just escape
this? Like, can we run away from our
problems? This is what she's asking
because that's her solution. Like Big Nung has always run
away from problems. The little dog is also always
running away from problems. And Big Nung says like, no, we
like, this is the thing we unfortunately can't run away
from. I tried that.
It didn't work out. Like trust me, you can't run
from this. So she's like, let me put it to
you this way. Like, would you rather that
we're together and like it's just us on our own and everybody
hates us, or would you rather we're together and like our
family accept this? Like, what would you?
What would be better? And Liam Lung's like, well,
obviously the second one is better.
Like the first one is not ideal, but like it's hard.
And, and also like she's young and she's impatient and we've
seen her do that over and over and over.
She's very young and impatient. That's part of being young and
anything that her fear, like little Nong's fear in this
conversation and with this whole scenario is that like they'll
never get acceptance and then be in the closet forever, which
like could be a possibility, you know, like if Big Nong is hell
bent on like wearing down the family Little Bong's, like what
if that never happens? Then what?
Like then we're in the closet. I don't want to be in the closet
2024. Whatever time it is.
Who knows what time it is in the show, you know, No, I don't.
I don't. No, I agree, but I don't know
how she expects to really wear them down because usually people
are pretty set in that mindset if they're homophobic.
So I think Big Nung's just trying to do everything she can
to preserve little Nung's relationship with her family.
And so like, doing this slowly and warming people up to it or
like, I don't know. She's just just.
Doing her best, man, I don't know what to tell you.
So Lil Long's like, are we ever going to get there?
Because like, when, when is this going to happen?
And like, I get that when you're young, you're just like, I'm
tired of waiting for things to happen.
I just want them to happen. Like I'm tired.
I just entered adulthood. Shouldn't I have my life figured
out by now? What the hell?
And it's like, bitch, you got like a whole ass another decade
or so before your life gets figured out.
Like slowly roll, like just enjoy being young.
And I love Big Nung's response because she mirrors the
conversation in the car when she was freaking out and Little Nung
reassured her like, hey, we're in this together.
Like we're going to face the obstacles together.
And like that calmed Big Nung down.
So now in this conversation, the rules are reversed.
Little Nung is the one freaking out about the outside forces on
their coming down on their relationship.
And Big Nung assures Little Nung like that day will come.
Like it'll happen. It's just like it's going to
take time because we are dealing with people who are set in their
ways who are going to judge us. And Big Nung, I think in the
back of her mind is like, well, once Little Nung is out of
school, that's the other problem.
Once she's out of school, what the fuck are they going to say?
She's an independent adult. She could do whatever she want.
Like, and if they don't accept her, then like they're never
going to accept her. But like now she's still seen as
like not an independent adult, right?
They still feel like they have domain over her because like
she's still technically living at home with the grandmother.
Like she isn't fully independent right now.
So I think Big Nun is like once she gets out of school, once she
gets out of school, this will be different.
That is Big Nun's timeline, right?
I think that's actually her timeline because she's like,
then they can't judge us if you're working, we're together.
What are they going to do? Nothing I can marry you like I
think like that should that will change everything once she's out
of school. I think because she's in school,
that definitely complicates a lot of this, the stigma of the
relationship, right. But and again, like to validate
that argument. The cherry on top of this
conversation for me is when big Nung is like, she asked little
Nung, we're not in a hurry with this relationship, are we?
This big Nung's thinking long game.
And I love the smile from little Nung because again, they never
directly talk about their their relationship.
They never talk about what is this?
They never talk about where is this going?
They just make they just have conversations where like you can
see their headspaces. And so little Nung starts
smiling because her girlfriend has very clearly just admitted
she thinks about being with her in like long term in the future,
right. And in this conversation admits
she wants to fight for the relationship no matter how long
it takes. So like, that's huge from big
none being like, what? Girlfriend?
No, get out of here. You know what I mean?
Like, deny all the denial. This is like an admittance from
big none that like, no, I take this relationship seriously.
I'm thinking about it in the long term.
I'm not in a hurry for any of this.
Like, we're in this for the long haul, right?
And that's what Big little one gets out of this conversation.
She's like, Oh my God, OK, whatever.
Fuck my homophobic family. I guess I'll agree to this plan
as long as I can wait with you, right?
Because that means we're together if we're waiting.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, at the very.
Least at least the school is near the palace because that
gives them an excuse. An excuse for most of the time.
I think big nun would still show up and see her and like, anyway,
yeah, she would figure out she she would figure out excuse to
see her so she didn't have to lie.
I I just mean that like, even if they weren't in this situation
ship where like little nugs sleeping at the palace, Big nug
would still make excuses to go to that school because like,
again, she did it with folks. She could have texted him right
to the school and see him. I think she would do that shit
for a little long, be like, oh, hey, I just happened to be in
the neighborhood. Isn't it your lunch break?
Because she knows her schedule. She hasn't memorized.
She'd be like, is it your lunch break right now?
100% do that shit where she would just like randomly show up
cuz she's in the area. And one was like OK whatever,
sure, just admit you wanted to see me anyway cuz they're kind
of codependent a little bit. OK, all right, so let's take a
moment and talk about little nuns room in season 2.
So we get a different angle of the room.
I assume it's a completely different set because we have
different sets in season 2. But let's talk about what her
desk looks like. We haven't fully seen it from
this angle before. So first of all, the blank book
is the backdrop on the desktop. Great product place on everyone.
Good job. She also has a fancy keyboard
that lights up, which explains why she wanted the light up
microphone 'cause they would totally match.
So I think she was like, hey, let's match, match this
equipment. It wasn't about the capacity of
like the waveforms or anything about that microphone.
She was just like it would match my light up keyboard and I don't
know. It.
Doesn't matter what how it sounds.
It lights. Up I like.
It and that is. How a lot of consumers buy
things. Right.
She's like colors of rainbow for my queer podcast.
Yes. So I respect that.
Also, I love the details of they have like basically like podcast
decor in the background where they have like the year on air
and they have like the kind of like equipment.
So like, again, establishing that this is where she records.
Oh yeah, got it. So overall, in summary, just
based on this angle, Lil Dong seems like a really cool person
and I want to be friends with her.
Like for real? No, she really does.
Right. Again, I would love to have her
come over here on this podcast. I agree.
That'd be that'd be the dream. OK, then we go back to the
conversation between the nuns. So then we get the classic I
miss you. No, I miss you.
I love you. No, I love you exchanged for the
two of them, which is so sweet that it rivals Mon and Sam.
And now we need lines. And basically like this
conversation just evolves, devolves into cuteness because
then little ones like the more you say shit like this, the more
I miss you. And freaking big Nog, lovesick
big Nog pulls, pulls out a portrait that she did.
And she's like, well, I'm looking at your portrait right
now. Does that mean I miss you?
And it's like, yes, it means you have a really bad.
That's what that means. Yes.
Girl, if you're just randomly looking at a portrait there,
there's a reason. Again, you could have been
looking at that stuff on the phone, but she's technologically
challenged. It's fine.
We'll take this my question at this because this is we didn't
see her do this portrait. It just it's already done, no
glasses. So assume it's recent at this
point. How many portraits of Little
Nung has she actually drawn? Like there have to be at least
dozens scattered around this palace.
I feel like. It's one for every day, but
they're not like. Full.
Portraits every day. It's like sometimes just like a
little doodle on the side of a piece of paper.
But she's always drawing Little Nung listeners at home.
How many at this stage, portraits are completed by
little by by Big Nung of Little Nung.
Leave it in the comments. I say at least a dozen that are
scattered around the palace that she probably has one in every
room where she's like, I miss her.
And there's a portrait, 'cause she's that person.
They're codependent instead of being like, looking at, 'cause
they don't take selfies on their phones.
I think she's just like, why would I do that?
I could draw you from memory cuz she old school and little known
finds that romantic. So yeah, exactly.
So it works out. It's just she's constantly on
big Nug's brain and she's just. If you're sitting down to draw,
she's like, this is what's in my brain again.
Anyway, you know, some like artists like you're just like
they're like I, they only draw like ballet dancers or some only
draw, draw like fruit bowls or like flowers.
This is the only thing she does. This is like their specialty is
big Nug is drawing little Nug. I'm just pointing it out in a
few. Years.
There's gonna be a part of the gallery where it's just like
Little Nug in various places and then little Nug gets her wish.
She's like, you know what would make the gallery better?
If my face was in it. There's a whole wall of it's
like an anniversary or birthday gift one year and it's just he
was like, I did what you wanted. That would be really cute.
I'm here for that. And then Mom Viva comes in and
she's like, I'd like to buy 1 and Lemong's like, absolutely
not, not from you, not for sale. Get out of get out of my wife's
establishment. I kind of want to just like, I'm
a partner and I was like, I don't care.
Get out anyway cuz like one of you would 100% be like a
business partner investing cuz she's like trying to make her
money, more money. So she's one of those people now
that she's got money anyway, that's a whole other story.
OK. Then we cut over to the next
scene, which is basically a line because of how unsweet it is.
So off screen, Chet invited Big Nung out to dinner.
Why would Big Nung ever accept this?
I don't think this time it's because of the free food 'cause
she's loaded so she can buy her own food and doesn't need to
have Chet. I think she accepts this because
she's trying to stay in the good graces of her girlfriend's
father, who's suspicious of suitors.
And at this stage, I think it's pretty clear that Big Nung
thinks of little Nung as her forever person.
So she's like, she needs to be able to one day tell Chet
they're dating, and so she's trying to stay on his good side.
I think that's what she's doing here.
Also by meeting him, she's able to like start slowly wearing him
down with like little things that she can say.
Also, she can make sure that this dude's not gonna do
anything really stupid. He's not gonna listen to her,
but and he's still gonna do something stupid, but she would
have the warning that it's coming.
There's that all of that. Yes, I think that's in her
brain. She's here for a little long as
bottom line because of the rest of this conversation is really
why she's here. All right, so here we are,
unfortunately with Chad. Chad, on the other hand, is here
because he is using his daughter as an excuse to be seen out in
public with on a date with big non to keep them tabloid rumors
going. So that's the difference between
these two people. Like they're both kind of here
for a little like big non has good intentions to be here.
They're kind of selfish, but they're a good intention.
Whereas Chad is just using big non to get some tabloid rumors
going. So what is his face when she
said you're not inviting me out just for the tabloids, are you?
His face made me. I mean, his face always makes me
want to punch it, but that face, just someone slap him.
Yeah, I have that in there. We'll get there.
But yes, sorry. That's OK.
But like, This is why I'm establishing the scene.
This is why we're all here. OK, so Chet wants invites the
little nun whisperer out because he wants her advice.
And he's like, I want to buy my daughter a car.
And big nun looks at him like he's an idiot because he is and
says your daughter can't drive. And she doesn't say this, but
she's like also like she has me. I'm her driver.
And if you take give her a car, I have less time with her.
So she's like, well, if you know the palace is close to her
school, it's fine. I can pick her up.
Like it like the arrangement we have right now is working.
Why are you trying to make it worse, Chad?
And he's like, you know, that's great and I appreciate you
chauffeuring my daughter around for and I never thought that was
suspicious that you're doing this.
But you know, thanks for doing that big Dong.
But like I want to be able to give her independence and also
like I want to teach her how to drive because that's the way we
can do father daughter bonding. And like honestly, that on the
surface is not a bad idea. Like my dad taught me how to
drive. Like it's not a bad like we have
nothing in common. Maybe we could bond over this
thing that would give her independence and things like
that. Like it's not a bad that idea
yeah, cuz he could have offered to just like have someone teach
her how to drive yeah or just been like he has she has big
nun, but let me save some money yeah no, exactly.
That would be throwing more money at it.
But like he's like it could be a way for us to bond.
Not a bad idea, but so big Nun picks up on the fact that Chet
is trying his best to his best, which is that to come up with
ways to please little Nun, his daughter, which is a good thing.
OK, it, that's a good thing. It's better than him trying to
just control her because the car is equal freedom, right?
But as always, Chet is missing the bigger picture and the whole
point of, like, how to bond with his daughter.
And so Big Nung asks, have you asked her if she wants a car?
Like, have you talked to your daughter?
Jet, you're making a lot. Like on the surface, this plan
sounds good. If little Nung expressed a need
for a vehicle what she's never had.
She has big Nung and Big Nung's car and Big Nung's gas money.
Why the hell would she need a car?
Like she's doing just fine. So like, good idea.
But she's like, does your daughter ever want this master
planner coming up with? Does she want to partake in any
of this? Have you talked to her?
So instead of listening to what Big Nung is saying to him, all
Chet gets from this conversation is so she doesn't want a car
like And Big Nung rolls her eyes so hard because this man is more
exhausting than Little Nung was at the beginning of their
relationship, which she would constantly wear Big Nung like
this man is way more exhausting than that.
And so she's like, I'm going to spell this out for you because
clearly you're not the brightest.
She's like, OK, what I mean is instead of asking the Little
Nung whisperer, why don't you ask Little Nung directly what
she wants? Because you're again assuming
shit and that chet's like, Oh yeah, yeah, I could ask her, but
then it wouldn't be a surprise. Again, you can't.
It's a major thing, though. If maybe she knew how to drive
already and like, had an old car, yes, surprise away.
But this is like a big thing, like what if your daughter is
terrified to drive? What if like there's so much
more going on? How do you know a car she wants
if you've never had a conversation with her, one with
her? That's a big purchase.
Not I mean, he's loaded, so he probably doesn't care, but like
come on now again. But like he keeps missing the
point from big Dong of like just fucking talk to her.
That's what she wants. So he's like well then it won't
be a surprise. And big Nug looks him dead in
the eye and says maybe your daughter doesn't want any more
surprises cuz finding out you or her father was a surprise.
She didn't like that. I mean she's tired of all you
guys springing weird surprises on her.
She never asked for it because all little Nung wants is
understanding, which is the thing that Big Nung understood
immediately when they first met. And that is the besides Big Nung
being extremely attractive, the other reason that Little Nug
stuck around so much was because Big Nug listened to her,
respected her, and just understood her as a person.
And like nobody else in her life ever does that.
They just assume shit about her and try to like throw money at
her or like win her affection in these weird ways that are
impersonal because nobody talks to her to figure out who she is
as a person. It's a running theme in the
show. Yeah, like no one.
It's just amazing that the nuns are so good at communicating
when no one around them is good at talking.
They're all terrible. I'm surprised everybody didn't
end up like Sam at the beginning of Gap, where Sam couldn't
express herself to save her life because of all her trauma.
Like, and here's big Nung who's an incredible communicator and
like little Nung, I I guess the power of media like you keep
saying, like I don't know where she got it from because her
parents are both idiots. They didn't raise her.
And then the grandmother is awful and hella control is
right. Exactly.
It doesn't make any sense, but here we are.
It's the ultimate miracle on the show.
So anyway, Big Nung is trying her very best to plant the seed
to Chet of get to know who your daughter really is.
Like actually get to know her. Be open minded about what she
tells you and stop trying to force her to be what you want
her to be. Just like love her for who she
is like I do. And that's the way to win her
affection. And I think, OK, so Big Nung's
motivate main, main, main motivation for coming here
because Chet only contacts her to talk about Lil Nun most of
the time. So she probably assumed he wants
to talk about Lil Nung. So OK, let me go defend my
girlfriend because that's what she's always doing in these
conversations with chat. So I think really what she's
trying to do is it goes back to what we were talking about
earlier. Remember the Auntie Nim
situation, like Lil Nung at the end of that conversation when
like at the dinner, at the breakfast, when Nim ices her
out, Nung leaves and she's like plotting something.
She's figuring out, OK, how can I be worthy of the surrogate
parent here so that I'm accepted into the family.
With Little Nong, it's more complicated because the family
doesn't even accept Little Nong yet.
So I think Big Nong is here to try and at the very least get
them to accept who she is, which is her queerness really at the
end of the day. Because if they can accept that
she's queer, that's the first hurdle.
And then be like, OK, cool, the other queer person she's getting
is me now let's deal with that. Because like first they have to
accept her. They have a queer daughter.
Like that's the first step. Like they got to.
Accept your daughter's. Queer like that's the first
thing that has to happen. So she's trying to plant seeds
here. She's like, get to know your
daughter cuz that's, you know, that gets him in the right
headspace for their relationships.
And that's ultimately with the two of them both.
That's what little one wants more than anything.
So she's like, she's trying to give little one what she
actually wants, which is not a car.
It's to have a relationship like everybody else out in the open.
So Chad kind of thinks about this kind of, I say kind of he
kind of thinks about this and big nun's like maybe get to just
get to know her at a personal level.
And he's like, all right, all right.
He thinks about it and then transitions into his
performative date by giving Big Nung food.
He's like, oh, you got to eat this.
You know, like he's feeding her first because he is trying to
stage this as a date. And that's when Big Nung gets
annoyed because she sees what he's doing and she's like, she's
here for a little Nung. She's not here for Chet's
benefit. And Chet is like, you're here
for both my benefits and all the ways.
And she's like, OK, Chad, be real with me right now, you
little bitch. This is the real reason you
invited me out in public instead of coming to see me at my palace
to have this conversation or calling me on the phone because
apparently we don't do that. Are we here on public so that
you can spread rumors that we're together?
Right? That's why we're actually here
in this kind of crowded restaurant in the window seat
where people can see us. And he doesn't answer.
He just shiftily starts drinking water and like, his eyes are
darting everywhere and like, he's an opportunistic son of a
bitch. Like that's exactly what he did.
He's trying to, you know, he's been trying to use her this
entire time to like elevate himself 'cause she's the
ultimate trophy wife. He's a terrible, he is terrible.
I fucking hate him. But big respect to Big Nun
because in this scene, let us not forget in this scene, she
sets a very clear boundary with Chet and tells him do not cross
any lines with me. She says it out loud in public
in this restaurant. She's like, the only reason I'm
allowing you to be in my life 'cause I ran away from you,
remember? The only reason we're here is
because of Little Nun. If it wasn't for her, we
wouldn't even be here. I would not talk to you ever
again. Like, we have no business being
in each other's lives anymore. It's just we're, we both love
the same person in different ways.
That's why we're here today. And Chet's like, yeah, sure, I
understand that. Or so he says.
OK, I don't believe. Anything that ever comes out of
Chet's mouth, because you know what?
He never, he never tries. And that's the main issue is he
doesn't try to change at all. And he doesn't see that there's
any error in the ways that he's thinking and doing.
I mean, he's not thinking. We've already established that.
And I he just doesn't deserve anything.
Because he's just a. He's a terrible human and he.
Needs to go away. My biggest problem with him, I
mean, I have a lot of problems with it.
My biggest problem with him in all these conversations is that
he doesn't listen to people when they're talking to him.
Like she had to so many times. Be like, you're not listening to
what I'm actually saying. I'm going to dumb this down even
more for you and be as explicit as possible because you're not
listening to me. You're hearing what you want to
hear because you already he's one of those people that like he
already made-up his mind before he walked in there.
He's like, I'm going to buy her a car.
I'm going to teach her how to drive and then we'll we'll be
best friends. He already made-up his mind and
then he brings Nung in and almost like under the guise of
Nung's helping him, but he already made-up his mind because
you watch him. He goes and does the stuff
anyway. Like regardless of this advice
where she's like to talk to your daughter, ask her if she even
wants it, He still goes and does it.
Like he does it. He already made-up his mind
before he walked in here. That's the fucked up thing.
So like he gets her out of this literally was just a guy's to
get her out in public and like keep courting her, but publicly
to keep rumors going because he's not listening to her at all
in this conversation. And she went under there in good
faith to be like I'm here for little nung to help her with her
fucked up crazy ass family that I don't want to marry into, but
I'm going to have to marry into now.
And like anyway, that's and she didn't love little one.
She would not be here. She almost married into it.
What, four years? Five years 6.
That's the grand man's fault. Yeah, Yeah.
And she's like. All right, well, if I have to go
into this family, at least it's with a little Nug.
She's gonna have Chet as a father-in-law.
That sounds terrible. That's even worse.
I don't know if that's worse. It's marrying him is probably
worse. That's pretty bad, but like
having to be like, this is my father-in-law who I was going to
ferry again. That makes this show wild.
All right, so meanwhile, little long is having a super chill day
at school until UE comes running over with the worst news ever.
Surprise, you're famous and little ones first reaction is
actual panic because fame is her worst nightmare.
She's a major introvert and like Big Nung, that's one of the
things they have in common and she wants to be out of the
spotlight. I think again, that's why she
wanted to do the voice DJ ING because it's not an in person
thing. It's not an on camera thing.
That's why she's doing a voice only podcast because I mean this
podcast started without a visual component.
Now it has a visual component because like there's more
anonymity to that and that makes little Nung feel comfortable.
She doesn't like being in the spotlight, so she's like, why am
I like, why am I famous? Like first of all, cuz like I'm
pretty sure her brain probably went to big nut.
Like oh God, have we been outed? Oh no, definitely.
Yeah, that would make her real famous.
Real famous. They found out the relate all
the relationship shit that would be a giant scandal.
Although like what they you know, with the the tie rules
with media Royals, what could they really say?
But like the gossip mills outside of the papers would be a
run in with that story. So yeah, she'd be hell of
famous. So I think she's like, oh fuck,
why am I famous? So UE explains that like the
podcast took off and he's like, oh, people are really liking the
podcast. People are in our DMS basically
trying to figure out who's voicing this 'cause they love
your voice. And Lil Along's like, oh, OK, so
I'm not actually famous. The podcast right now is famous.
Good. That's what we all want.
We don't have the podcast to do well.
But Lil Long's like, why are all these people want to know me?
Like that's weird. Just like enjoy the show and you
always like, you know, people probably admire you and this and
that and like, why don't you want to be famous?
That's weird. Doesn't everybody want to be
famous? And Little Long reiterate
something we love about her, which is like, I don't like
meeting people like I relatable girl.
I get it. It's so valid, It's so valid,
it's so valid. That's overwhelming and she gets
exhausted by like social interaction.
So like, I get it, I get it. So anyway, UE's like, I guess
from this conversation, part of the podcast, I guess she's like,
I think running the social media for the podcast and you know,
outsourcing this to a friend. The the social media aspect.
That's a good move. Little known.
So we tried doing that and it partially works for the podcast.
So quick shout out to Cole, Zoe and Elena who have been helping
us with our social medias. Thanks guys.
If anyone else out there would like to be arguing and help with
the podcast, hit us up on all our social medias or e-mail us
or shout out the discord. We would love to talk to you
because this podcast is a lot. It's it's a lot.
It's a. Lot.
It's too much. It's too much some days, so if
you'd like to help, let us know. We're always looking for
helpers. All right, How do you?
Feel like I. Think there is someone else
helping as well because UE makes a comment saying I the admin but
I think they meant the admin of like the social media account
cuz like UE comments that like well it's social media people
are gonna figure out who you are eventually cuz like Internet.
But for now I told the admin not to reveal who you were.
So I wasn't sure if that meant like that.
Yeah, it was just a very. Weird like phrasing.
I think it's the translation. I'm not sure if I thought it
meant like the social media, like don't release our
information. Kind of like a privacy setting
discussion. Because who would who?
Who else would they know? Folk Like who would the admin?
They don't have other friends that we've seen.
Anyway. Yeah, let's have a few.
Want to help with the podcast? Anyway, so then we cut back to
Big Nung and Chet. Unfortunately, they're still
having dinner and Chet is paying because it's over now.
So Chet is paying the check while Big Nung psychs herself up
for like the reason she's here. So she's like Chet, can I ask
you something? And he gets way too eager about
this. And he's like, you can ask me
literally anything, anything you want to know Nung, whatever.
And she's like slow year old bitch.
This isn't about you. It's literally never about you,
Chet. Never.
She's like, this is about Little Nung.
Remember her, The reason we're here.
She's like between buying her the car, like throwing money at
her or accepting Lil Nung's identity, like getting to know
her. Which are you going to choose?
Because that was the the choice she gave him at the beginning of
the meal. Then they ate the meal.
She's like, all right, back to the main point, Chet, what are
you going to do? Are you going to accept who your
daughter is or are you just going to buy her a car?
And Chet's like, well, both, Both is good.
I can love my daughter and get her a car.
Big nog. I am capable of both.
OK? It's a point in my favor.
And big Nog's like, oh fuck sake, Chet, you're still not
getting this because she was very explicit.
Like you accept your daughter's identity and he's like, I can
still love her and get her a card.
She's like, that is not what I said.
It's because he's not listening. He's not listening to what she's
saying. And this conversation makes it
so obvious, like clear that this man does not listen when you
talk to him, even her like Big Nog, who's like a trusted
confidant in this situation. And she's like, OK, listen, I'm
just going to tell you what to do instead of giving you the
illusion that you had a choice to begin with.
And she's like, listen, you have to accept your daughter for who
she really is. You just you have to.
A car is not going to fix this. You have to put in some work,
Chet, to get to know her and then accept who she is.
Even put as simply as that, Chet still doesn't understand what
she's saying is he's not listening to her.
It's kind of amazing and terrifying that this man wants
to be in the government running things when he got.
Like the worst part? Like what?
How is he even going to function?
How does he even make it this? Far in life male.
Male privilege. This is one of those societies
where like, if you have money, you're seen as better than
everybody else. So like he's an incompetent.
He would this if he was in America, he would be an
incompetent, mediocre white man that like fails upward and ends
up in charge of shit. That's who Chet is in America.
Basically like somebody who doesn't deserve it, like gets up
there and is like, oh, look at me, That's Chet.
Male privilege, money privilege, like status privilege gives you
Chet who's the actual worst. And then big Nong is like, OK,
for some reason you still don't get this.
So I'm going to create a completely unrealistic and
totally far fetched scenario to help you understand it didn't
work with your daughter, but I'm going to try with you.
For some reason she's smarter than you.
So let's try this. She's like, suppose your
daughter likes a girl. What would you do?
AK? Like if your daughter fell in
love with a woman, what would you do?
And what's Chet's gut reaction? He's like, well, I would send my
FBI agents after UE because this is about UE, right?
UE, right? And nuns like, Oh my God, I said
hypothetical, first of all. And that's not.
And he just keeps going. He's so mad at the scenario
because he's like, his job as the dad is to control her
romantic life. So she's like, she can't be a
lesbian. I'm never going to allow her to
do that. I won't let her do that.
And Bygman's like, calm down, call the hit off of youi.
This was a scenario. I was not put the phone down.
Chet, stop calling the FBI agents like this is just a
scenario. They're not dating.
Do you understand?
Repeat after me. They're not date.
There we go. Now we're on the same page.
Great. She's like, but what if they
were Chet? What would you do?
Let's say your daughter's already in the relationship.
What would you do? And Chet does think about this
before blurting out homophobia like he did last time.
He thinks about this for a second before he says I don't
know, which is interesting because later and not later in
what was it, one O 6, the same question gets posed to Pinkfa by
Little Mum when she's like, let yes or no, can I date a woman?
And Bigfa's like, I don't know. Like like when they're actually
confronted with the actual scenario, they're like, I want
to date a woman, will you let me?
Yes or no? Both of them are like, I don't
know. It's not a no.
It's AI don't know.
So like, OK, Big Nug's like, all right.
Making progress. Great.
That wasn't a throw her out of my house, cut her off.
Not that she cares. Big Nun will be thrilled.
A little nun would have to be thrilled.
Like, you're gonna cut me off that Great.
That's exactly what I wanted. I'm gonna date Big Nung even
harder now. So.
Yeah. So.
So then Big Nung once again for the millionth time tries again
to spell out very clearly to check what the situation is.
And she's like, OK, I've been trying to be nice about this but
you're an idiot. So let me just tell you, instead
of throwing money at her to win her heart, the money, the thing
she doesn't need, why don't you try to be open minded and just
accept who she is and respect her choices?
That costs you nothing. So because all little Nung wants
is to be treated like a human being, she wants somebody to
accept her, to listen to her, which is literally all big Nung
does. And then everybody in their
family is like, wow, big Nung. I don't know why she listens to
you so much. I don't know how you're such an
amazing little Nung whisperer and she's like, I literally just
listen to her process what she's saying and and respect what she
wants. That's.
Literally. The magic formula.
Her own person. It's not hard.
Also, like the other thing too is like big nun, let's little
nun speak. Most of everybody else in her
life doesn't even let her talk. Like so how would they know what
she wants? They don't let her talk.
They talk around her and about her as if she's not present, but
they don't talk to her. Big Nun is the only one who's
like little Nung. How do you feel about going to
America? Like she's the only one.
And they're like, wow, I don't know how you do it.
Big Nung. It's like it's you guys are
ridiculous. It's astounding.
These people are clueless. It's so clueless and it's just
like we have to keep doing this over and over again because like
they can't, they're like, I don't the magician is so good.
I can't understand the magic trick and nuns.
Like I just showed you the the magic trick how I did it 500
times. Why is this still a mystery to
you? Well, especially with the
grandmother. She's been able to control
Little Nung for so long that this is the first time like
Little Nung is able to really not rebel but be her own person.
Yes, since she is separated from being in that house more that I
don't think that grandmother knows what to do.
She's like, I don't have. I'm losing the control.
I need to figure out how to deal with that.
And she just, she can't because all she knows is to control the
situation in any way possible, right?
Exactly. Because like Pingfa, while she
lost control of Pingfa, she ultimately controlled Pingfa at
the end of the day. Like Pingfa unfortunately made
the mistake of getting with Chad, which was a huge mistake
because it's Chad Pingfa. I never said it was.
Going to end well? No, it was never going to end
well. I understand you were upset
obviously because you chose Chad and so Ping Fei made the mistake
as a child and it was all about the scandal, right?
So like big Lil Nung's grandmother was so triggered
about child Lil Nung following in her mother's footsteps.
Now she's dealing with an adult and still in the prior
conversation with Lil Nung and her grandmother is still like
trying to control her, but you see she has less control.
And I think the grandmother was like, I'm getting too old for
this shit. You're an adult.
Don't make me instead of like hitting little Nung or get like,
she didn't go to corporal punishment, did she?
She was like, don't make me sad. She tries to goes into guilt.
She's like, which is how you control adult children, not tiny
children. So like, their dynamic is
changing, like, naturally because Little Nung is like,
stepping into her adulthood in her family's eyes.
Legally, she's an adult. But like, you know, they're
starting to see her as an adult. And the old playbook of
controlling her doesn't work anymore.
Especially when Little Long's like, I don't need money, you
can't buy me off. Like you can't ground me.
I don't live here any, you know what I mean?
Like this, these tricks are going to stop working.
And I think like, the grandmother is so used to
controlling young children because she was controlling Ping
Pho, who's a child now. She's controlling Little Long
now. What, Like, what does the
grandmother do with all her time now?
She's not controlling young women.
Like I, I, I think the grandmother's gonna start going
through an identity crisis and be like, who am I now?
Like, I was just controlling women for like 30 years or
whatever. Yeah, 'cause it's been a long
time that she's been raising a child.
Not well, but like still that becomes half of your life.
Mostly more than half. Like a third of her life she was
raising kids like children. 16 years of pinfa, then six like 20
years with little known like that's.
A lot. 36 years, a third of her life was just raising.
That's a lot. That is so much so like she
deserves a retirement and like should never be raising anybody
ever again. Just go away and sunset
yourself. Get out.
Never allowed around children again.
Never again. OK so back to the conversation
with Chet. One thing that I love is that in
the conversation big nun calls out both Pingfa and Chet and
she's like, you know the thing that you father and Pingfa
mother have never given little nung.
It's accepting her, being open minded and respecting her.
You've both never given her that and that's literally the only
thing she wants. That is literally why her and I
are so close. That's all it takes.
And you guys keep denying her the one thing she wants and she
leaves this with Chet and then basically is like think about
this and like Mike drops and gets on out of there and it's
like big Nung, it's Chet. He can he can he even think is
my question because like can he, I'm I have no evidence that he
can has. Big nung.
Ever. I mean, she had to have but, but
just thought about, OK, but what if this family just never comes
around? Like, they're going to have to
accept that one day and just live their life?
Well, like I said, I think that once Little Nung is officially
an adult and out of school, 'cause like, the family's paying
for school and shit. Like I think once it's at that
stage, it's a different story. But right now it's like you're
one of four of Little Nung being in school.
And Little Nung's impatient as fuck.
So like, and like, the bigger problem I think in Nung's brain
is that like, Little Nung's family doesn't accept Little
Nung and like, yeah, they went through this, remember?
Let's go back to Gap. Did Sam being queer go over well
with the grandmother? No, neither the song being
queer, nobody being queer went over well with the grandmother.
But with enough time, like they love each other.
And so with enough time, the grand man came around to Sam.
So like, I think Nung has that example and is like, I think I'm
hopeful over time, if we can like go about this the right
way, you know, when I yell at each other and blow up that
like, perhaps with time you guys can come around, like start
planting seeds. Like, well, what if she was
queer? Think about that.
Have you ever thought about that?
Their initial reaction is terrible, but she's like, no,
really think about it. What if that was reality?
And that's why the answer is always like, I don't actually
know what I would do in that scenario.
I don't think they've ever thought about it.
So she's like, I need you to start thinking about this.
Yeah. So I don't think it's a lost.
It's at this stage, it's not a lost cause.
Nung's like this is just gonna take time.
I saw Sam go through this. It took time.
Like, eventually, though, if the grand man can do what anybody
could do, like, you know, they have, there's a phases of
acceptance. And first they just have to
accept that they can't control a little Nung.
It's so hard to get them to realize that.
And that's what Big Nung is saying in this conversation.
She's like, you need to see her as her own person.
Like you need to see her as a person.
Respect what she wants, accept who she is without trying to
throw money at her, like to make her love you.
Like just get to know her. Like that's the problem.
Nobody knows her. So she's like you.
The first step is know your family member.
Like, come on, can we just like start with that?
Like because Big Nung, I think at the end of the day, she's
like, even if I wasn't in the picture, I want her to have her
family. And like right now they don't.
None of these people realize they don't have her.
Like they don't realize that they're just like, she's my
daughter, they're for mine. That's like, have you spoken to
her? Like she doesn't even see you as
her dad at all. She doesn't even want you.
So like they're the no one's communicating in this family.
And so Nong is trying to be like the communicator that
facilitates the conversation even starting because they're
not independently having any conversation at all.
And like, like we keep saying the nongs are good at
communicating, but like the family members are terrible at
it. So like I think she's also
trying to play intermediary to be like, how do you feel?
You know what I mean? Just like get the conversation
going because nobody's talking anyway.
I mean, little, no, barely sees these people anywhere,
especially Chet. So I don't understand how Chet
thinks he has any relationship with her.
He's like genetically she's mine.
I want to he, it's the same problem Pingfa has.
It's like he's like, she's my daughter.
I'm trying to step into the role of father right now and it's
like she's 20 and you're trying to treat her like she's 10 years
old, like, and like you've known her her whole life and she's
like, she didn't even know who you were until like a week ago.
So again, it's delusion on his part, but he's thinks he's doing
the right thing by being like, she didn't have a father, now
she has one. I'm trying to be the best father
I can. This is what fathers do.
And he's not wrong. Like this is what fathers do.
But he's like, but like Big Nong's trying to point out
everybody's missing the point. It's like, does she want this?
Like, like this is what you want.
You now are suddenly like, I'm ready to be a father, so I'm
going to play the role of father.
And it's like, that's great, Chet, that you finally made it
there even though you ran away 16 years ago or 20 years ago.
Great. Good for you.
But does your daughter actually want you to be her father?
That's probably the first step we should start with instead of
you just assuming all of these things like he did in this
conversation. He's like, I'm a she doesn't
have a car, therefore I would get her a car.
I will teach her to drive the car.
Big Nung's like that's a fantastic plan.
But step one is does she want the car?
It's the same thing. It's just, yeah, he's, you know,
he's an idiot. Let's Vera.
But he's doing his best to be play the role of father 'cause
he wants to, not because Little Monk wants or needs him to.
OK, so one thing I really love about this scene and in the
opening scene of Part 3 when we get there later, is that big men
and Little Long absolutely 100% share our brains out.
And I keep pointing that out because they do.
Because in this episode they both do these things where they
go behind each others backs to confront their significant
others family members or surrogate families in a way to
ease the family members into their relationship.
So Big Nun was literally unfortunately having this
horrible dinner with Chad because she's trying to get him
to accept Lil Nung's queerness. So that eventually their
relationship will be fine. And then later little Nung is
going to go do the exact same thing with like much more
directly because big Nung's family is in a different
headspace with all of this because it's Sam and Nung is
like, I'm not hiding my relationship.
I don't care. So they but I love they both do
that because they're both active partners in this process of like
getting the relationship like out there and accepted.
OK. Because in season 1, we only
really saw Big Nung doing this stuff where she would like, set
up family dinners at little nongs to be like, we need to
talk about the little nong situation, You know what I mean?
She would do these things where she would like, defend little
Nong or she would have sidebars with Chet to be like, your
daughter's queer. You need to fucking like accept
that. Like stop yelling at her.
I'm not going to tell her it's wrong.
You fucking tell her it's wrong if that's how you feel, you big
homophobe. Like she was constantly doing
these things to be like, accept her, accept her, listen to her.
But now they're both doing it because they're playing an
active role in their relationship.
And like to be fair, in season 1, Lil Long didn't know anything
about big men's family because big men never told her who she
was. So there's that.
But I still appreciate the evolution of their relationship.
And in season 2, you have two people who are both working
together to build a future that they both want.
It's really great. And it's honestly something I we
don't see on screen really much either, which is another reason
I love this show. Like usually it's just like the
falling in love part and then it's like the like and they live
happily ever after. But here it's like you're seeing
the mundane parts of like keeping a relationship going.
It's like it's not always smooth sailing.
Like sometimes like you have to keep like fighting for things or
like working together to fix things.
That's what they're doing in in this episode, which is awesome.
I really love that we get to see it because it's so important.
And obviously, yes, it doesn't make sense for every TV show,
but this one is showing you the joy in the mundane as well.
Like it's just being together in the moment and taking the time
to show that and not just be like move the plot along.
Like we get them just sitting on the couch together reading and
it's really cute. So I I just I love their
partnership is both it's act on both sides, which is another
thing that doesn't always get displayed in media.
Like sometimes it's one partner working harder than the other
for the relationship. But here in this episode, you
see them both working to like get the families on board.
They're both doing it it for the benefit of the other partner and
ultimately like their relationship.
OK, so enough of chat. Meanwhile, back at the
university, UE is exhausted with being Lilong's bodyguard.
Because she's like, Big Gun hired me, she didn't pay me, and
I got to be your bodyguard. Like she's like, all these boys
keep staring at me like they want to fight me.
Your grandmother wants to fight me, Your dad tried to fight me,
but he's a terrible fighter. She's like, I'm tired.
And Lilong's, he's like, yeah, also like my grandmother doesn't
even want me to be friends with you because you're a lesbian.
And Louie's like, Oh my God, for the millionth time, I'm not a
lesbian, I'm queer. And la, la, it's like, I know,
don't be mad. I know what she says in English,
which is really cute. And then and, and, and I, it
could be like, and I, I wondered why she did this.
And it like people have pointed out, like people who speak
multiple languages sometimes slip into other languages, but
like we don't see little nuns speaking in English often.
So I wonder if it's also like she's doing it in university.
So I wonder if it's also like, it was a choice to be like
little nuns doing better at school.
Look at how like her English sounds great.
Like Yoga's English is very good.
So I wonder if it's a way to show that like a little Nung is
doing well in school. Like look at her just speaking
very well in English, you know, because like in season 1, it was
established that she was struggling in school.
Now she's thriving. So like she's in school, like
speaking multiple languages like it's nothing.
So I think it's a way to show that like she's growing, I
guess, academically. So anyway, Yui and, and little
one proceeded to have a really quick but really good
conversation about the generation gap when it comes to
queerness, specifically in like Thailand where they live, 'cause
they're, they're 'cause, you know, it starts off with the
grandmother won't let's be friends because you're queer.
And then Dewey's like, it's a generation gap thing.
I know. And so far in the media that
we've seen, like the Thai media, we've only seen shows that
portray this mostly from like older people's perspectives,
like Gap, for example, Like you're seeing it like, like from
the grand man's perspective, like 3 generations out and like
from Sam and Mon who are more like adults kind of thing, like
older adults, I guess. And then like 23.5 didn't really
touch on it. It was more like, that's fine.
It's like heart stoppery. It's like everything's perfect
in this universe. So like, I like this because
you're getting the conversation from like the, the, the youth,
like people who are entering adulthood, like right now, like
you, he's probably like 1920. Like they're entering adulthood
and they're like, when you're younger and the younger
generation is like, yeah, it's fine, whatever.
But now they're like entering the adult sphere where like
they're being confronted with the homophobia and they're like,
yeah, that's really exhausting. So I like this conversation from
them because they're on the same page, like little ones.
Like I understand what queer is. I understand your identity.
Like this is like, I get it. But like the older generations
don't understand it. And it's and they express that
like it's exhausting. Like UE's like says something
about like I have cousins, but I can't like that love me but I
can't talk to them about this that like they can't even have
conversations because it's no one's on the same page with UE
and little and literally we just had a scene where big Nung was
having this battle with little Nung's father who doesn't
understand the queerness. So like.
It's it's an. Exhausting, exhausting
conversation, an exhausting conversation with Chip.
But like, that's reality sometimes for some people,
right? And so they both agree that
like, obviously the adults, the older adults don't understand
the nuances of queerness. Like that's part of the problem
as this like is evolving. But you when she was talking
about her family, she basically says, like her family like
doesn't want to take the time to really understand this aspect of
my life, you know, So it's like how how do you bridge the gap
when like the other party won't even talk to you about it?
That was the grand name of Nung, right?
So little Nung is the optimistic one in this scenario or she's
like, well, I think there's there's got to be a way to
bridge the gap. I'm hopeful that there is.
I think personally she's trying to achieve this by dating Big
Nung, who's in the older generation.
She's like, well, if I could wife somebody in the older
generation, like it'll be fine. Like that's how you bridge the
gap by dating them. Like you can plan now that's one
way to do it. I guess that's one way to do it.
Not good for you personally, I would have really enjoyed like
UE was expanded on a lot more in the show, which was great.
But personally I would have I would have liked to expand UE
just a little bit more in the show so I can see her friendship
with Little Nung and have more conversations or like more
scenarios where these guys are dealing with like the queerness
outside of like Big Nung and Little Nung's relationship.
I understand Big Nung is the protagonist so that wasn't going
to happen. But like it would have been
interesting to get their point of view cause a lot of this is
Big Nung's point of view. But to get like their point of
view, cool to have something like the women's center in sex
lives of college girls at their university and have like.
UE be like the. Leader of that and invite little
nung in and just have that world but obviously it revolves around
the nuns relationship so even if they had that it would still be
like little nun going in there talking about how she has
someone in her life that she can't like fully be with right
now because of society expectations and all of that
but. It would have.
Given a little more depth to the younger generations, Queer.
Storyline. Yeah, I think that would have
been too much for the show cause again, like it's it's big Nong's
story. Like they even they expanded the
fact that you is here. They're having this conversation
is an expansion on little Nong as a character from the book,
which is like it's good that this exists.
I would just like I would like to have had a couple more scenes
with just them, even with folk, maybe just like like having
conversations like what would have been cool as if this would
never happen. But if Nung remember that the
scene later, like in a couple episodes where big Nung's like,
I'm going to show a little Nung. We have nothing in common, which
is bullshit. And then invites over Chet and
Juan Viva and then folk. And then they have they start
talking about cryptocurrency, where the hell they're they're
talking about. It was this weird that scene,
that scene where I truly believe Big Nung also had no idea what
they're talking about, was just trying to play cool because
she's like, I don't know what they're talking about because
that's technology she doesn't know.
So I'm pretty sure that was that conversation.
But what I would like to have had is where we had these people
in the room and then like the concept of queerness comes up,
right? And then you have like UE full
like, why can we have them in the room having the discussion
And like that would have been interesting instead of like
these yelling closed door matches that we did.
But like to actually be like, let's actually talk about this
anyway, because that's not dramatic.
So we didn't do that. But anyway, little long is like,
listen, I'm all hopeful that like everything's going to be
fine and stuff because my family will eventually get over
themselves and accept my queerness because I'm actively
in love with the woman of my dreams.
And you're always like, wait a minute, you're in love with
somebody. Like who?
Why haven't you told me? Because they're supposed to be
best friends now. I mean, Ewie's doing all this
work to help her with the podcast.
Like right, you're in love that that requires like a lot of
dating and shit and boom, panics because I don't think she meant
to say this is a private thought that like came out of her mouth
and she's like, fuck. And she responds PP Bilkin and
runs away and Ewie's like, what? Which doesn't make any sense in
the context of what they were talking about because like, I
looked it up and and this Pee pee Bilkin is a Thai actor, like
a a dude. He's been in queer stuff.
But like I you was like, we were just talking about queerness.
What is happening? I thought you were a lesbian.
I'm confused. Why are you talking about men?
So I think that was the confusion.
She's like, are you into women? I'm confused.
You were trying to date me like a minute ago.
It's like out of. Everybody that that's what so
random like it's what a random thing so random.
All right, so unfortunately we're gonna have to split this
episode into two because you already know second-half of this
episode is a journey. So we're gonna end it here cuz
we were already talking for like 3 hours.
So Taylor Swift songs for this episode.
I already said cardigan. I think cardigan is I think
cardigan is a little mug big mug song for sure and definitely
applies to this episode. So I do love that and mine was
This is why we can't have nice things.
I that we've brought that song up so many times because it's
applicable. OK, Dooby Doo.
Big A energy award for this episode.
I don't think we've ever done it for Part 1 and two.
We have. We usually just spit them out in
the middle of the episode, but I don't think we have awarded
anything to anybody. No, we did not award.
Anything. I would like to give the big A
energy award for big nom. Trying to have that conversation
with Chet cause Oh my God the way she had to like dumb down
the conversation every single time to be like why are you
still not getting this? Your daughter's queer.
Like I'm surprised she didn't just yell at him to be like
she's a lesbian react like he's so frustrating.
Like she has all the patience in the world when it comes to
little nun. Like, I swear to God, she
definitely wanted to slap that man but didn't because she wants
she's dating his daughter. I'm going to give the big energy
award to the communication going on between the two of them.
Literally hydrate. Hydrate for their communication
because that is beautiful. All right, Caitlin, do you have
a super secret word for people? I do, I do.
Again, this is the most random thing that came into my brain.
If you made this finally episode, we.
Want to know? Because it's, it's been a lot.
And if you're still here, we love you.
We do. So we're best friends now.
Today's word is chamomile. I don't know why Theo or I don't
have any explanation because my word makes more sense that I
have for this episode, for the next I see.
So yeah, I had to figure out something very random.
So yes. Use.
Chamomile in a comment or review.
Very weird in a review. Now I'm just trying to think
about what is your word for Part 2?
Is it bondage? Like what is what went
dominator? What was your word anyway?
It doesn't matter. It's not.
No. It's nothing like entertaining.
Sure it is. Just guess in the comments.
What could Caitlin's word possibly be?
Or give her suggestions go yes give me suggestions for words I
need I have to stop Googling words at the beginning of every
episode. My God.
Anyway, so that's your homework assignment.
You get 2 homework assignments. So thank you and keep on
listening. So next time we get into the
second-half of this episode, which is so good, so not gonna
want to miss that. So in preparation for that, make
sure you hydrate a lot for Lesbian Jesus because Lesbian
Jesus was involved in the making of Part 4, Episode 3.
Let's be real and get up all of the place.
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