1 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:09,160 Hello and welcome to Big Gay Energy. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,360 I'm Caitlin. And I'm Fiora. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,600 Come along with us while we dive into the fun and nuances of 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,280 queer media. Representation matters, and 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,600 we're. Here to talk about it. 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,000 Cheers, queers. What's on the big agenda today, 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,640 Theora? Today we're back to discuss 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,840 Girls episode 8 because we cannot help ourselves because 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,000 that episode was epic. So we're gonna talk about just 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 that episode. That's how good it is it. 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,280 Was a really good episode. Oh my God, it was so good. 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,200 So good. It was stupidly good. 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,640 Like starting off strong in the beginning and just kept getting 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,560 better. So like, what a fucking episode 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,040 that was. So we're here to just talk about 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,880 the episode 8. It's so good. 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,880 Yes, let's do it. Sorry. 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,880 Are you OK, Caitlin? I am totally OK. 19 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,120 I'm just so excited to talk about this episode that I can't 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,280 even contain my excitement. I can't even contain my you know 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,840 who else is really excited or better be excited? 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,920 Patreon. So I'm just gonna give some love 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,480 for our Patreon 'cause that was kind of partially why we're 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,720 here, 'cause we had some people on Patreon be like, I better 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,280 get, oh, wait, who is it? Mary Elle says like, I better 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,520 get an analysis on episode 8. Here we are, Mary, just for you. 27 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,200 I saw that. I was like, oh man, I got to 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,600 write a blog. And then I was like, there's too 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:35,880 much shit in here to write a blog. 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,360 Caitlin, we're filming. So Mary, this is for you mostly. 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:47,720 Also Ashley Soustanen, who was like, damn, this episode was 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,840 long as fuck. The last one we did white cat 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,960 who comes in with the ringer who's like. 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,840 I was also super excited to see how long this video is. 35 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,440 And Can you imagine if they broke this showdown? 36 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,760 It might rival blank. You're right, white cat. 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,320 It would OK, it would. And to everyone out there. 38 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,880 Originally we were going to do week by week episodes of girls 39 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,000 as it aired and just do each episode. 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,880 But then like, I was Mia for a while because of life. 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:19,320 So we so we're making up for it now because as we anticipated, 42 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,920 this is the type of show you need a podcast for because 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,360 there's so much shit going on and it's amazing. 44 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,880 So. There's so much going on. 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Just wanted to give some love to Patreon and also Pooja who's out 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,120 there in the comments because everything you guys all said was 47 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,600 all facts and I will give some love to all of you. 48 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,000 So thank you all. All right, we see you. 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,000 We love you, we hear you. And we're here because of you. 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,920 So enjoy. All right, where would you like 51 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:50,440 to start with episode 8? Do you have any particular? 52 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,640 Please can we just start with that the first? 53 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:56,520 Scene the beginning the beginning. 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,960 So I'm just gonna say it now. Give Milk an Academy Award for 55 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,280 her acting in episode 8 and all of girl roles as Sasha because 56 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,480 holy shit was that a master class in acting? 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,320 What she did the whole episode like starts off like Oh my God 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,000 her acting was insanely good. Like I'm so beyond impressed 59 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,600 with her performance as Sasha. You amazing could see all of the 60 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,320 emotions happening on her face. All of them. 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,840 She doesn't say a goddamn word. No. 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:34,880 And like, not even not just all the emotions she portrayed, like 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,200 the emotional damage that was happening to her character. 64 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,880 The watching the trauma happen in real time. 65 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Oh, my gosh. And like, just when you think it 66 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,200 couldn't get worse, it got worse for her. 67 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,480 And it's exactly what I thought was going to happen. 68 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Yeah, you called it. Some casting couch it. 69 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:03,200 And I just that guy was you. Should I raindrop killer? 70 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,800 Where are you? Real quick, shout out to casting 71 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,240 for girls. You picked some creepy ass men 72 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,520 to pay. Play these like pretentious 73 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,120 predatory photographer guys because there's two different 74 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,519 ones we've seen in Sasha's plot line. 75 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,279 Like shout out to casting, you did a great time finding men who 76 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,160 could play creepy ass men, so good job. 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,080 Yay casting fair girl roles. All the casting's on the point. 78 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,240 We always got to give love to the behind the scenes people 79 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:35,760 because you matter and just it shows through the casting. 80 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,520 And I think the show is also a love letter to the crew also 81 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,800 because they do make a point to be like the crew matters. 82 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,480 So I think some some fed up crew people also were like poking the 83 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,200 screenwriters and be like, can you like and they're like, OK, 84 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,720 yeah, Yep, Yep, Yep. We love you all. 85 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,920 Yeah, we're going to write that in there. 86 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:58,240 And I'm support that decision. That's some good propaganda I 87 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,560 get behind. Yeah, OK, anything. 88 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,160 Anything you want to talk specifically about that scene 89 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,960 other than Milk's God to your performance, says Sasha. 90 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,880 Just that it's awful that it happened and that that's what 91 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:16,120 happens still today. Like those types of things 92 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,560 happen and like you would not you would think that things 93 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,120 would change. But there's a reason these 94 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,480 stories are still being told. And I really hope, for the sake 95 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,480 of everyone on that production, that this was not someone's real 96 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,880 experience. That's what I'm worried about 97 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,360 but for. Some reason it just seems a 98 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,520 little. Too real, I know. 99 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:40,520 I'm like Milky method acting. I hope not, women hope not, but 100 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,360 I hope not cuz wow the drama. Please be OK. 101 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:50,200 I just want to protect you all. All right, let's let's. 102 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,960 Actually talk about that whole thing though, because I think 103 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,640 that if I weren't Mary Elle on Patreon, if I was going to write 104 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,880 a blog post about episode 8 specifically, I think my thesis 105 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:04,760 would be the power of no and the power of saying it and not 106 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,840 saying it. Particularly not saying it. 107 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:09,720 So like, I think that that's the pervasive theme throughout the 108 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,040 episode that really effects all the plots. 109 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,040 But I'm going to talk about start with Sasha and kind of go 110 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,200 through the rest of them. So because there's some foiling 111 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,520 happening between Sasha and Prim because that's what they do. 112 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,560 So it always goes back to Prim. So let's start with Sasha. 113 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:34,640 So like, OK, in that scene, Sasha basically was in that room 114 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,440 and I and I brought it up in the in our first review of episode 1 115 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,840 through 7 where I was we're talking about what the trauma 116 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:44,120 could be. And I was like that. 117 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,160 My question is like, did her manager put her up to this? 118 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,840 That was my question. I'm like, did it just happen or 119 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:53,840 like, did one son put her up to it And like she did? 120 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,280 So that was confirmed. The evil was confirmed here. 121 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:04,280 So, OK, so in this scene, basically it starts in the 122 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,680 before Sasha even gets into the room, OK. 123 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,400 And there's some weird shit happening here where once Sen is 124 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,880 essentially talking Sasha into it, right into the what the 125 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,600 horrible situation. She's just about to go on and 126 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,480 she's going on and on and being like, this is your big break, 127 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,680 OK? This is somebody who's 128 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,000 influential. And if you do what they say, 129 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,000 then we'll all you'll be famous and we all win, right? 130 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Your mom will be happy, I'll be happy. 131 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,160 Everyone's going to be happy. You just have to do what he says 132 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,080 because he's that powerful. And if you notice during that 133 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,480 scene when Sena's talking to her, when Sena's not like 134 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,480 looking at Sasha, like she looks a little jittery like, and she's 135 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,080 not really looking at Sasha. So my read on that is that this 136 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,360 bitch knows that this is a creepy man that she's about to 137 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,400 send her. We don't know how old Sasha is. 138 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,240 She could be a child. She might be a minor. 139 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,320 We don't know. Into this room alone with this 140 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,960 man one Sen knows. OK, so she's trying to basically 141 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:02,760 get in Sasha's malleable brain and be like, you have to do it. 142 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,200 Like it's your choice. But like, if you do it, 143 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,080 everyone's going to be happy and proud of you, right? 144 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,920 And Sasha, like make that argument. 145 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,360 And then if you notice Sasha, like Sasha, I feel like she was 146 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,680 traumatized before this moment because like in that scene, 147 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,000 Sasha doesn't like she's like seems like she's not present. 148 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,240 Like 1 Cent has to be like Sasha, Sasha, Sasha before 149 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,360 Sasha's like, what? Like where are we? 150 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,760 She almost seems like she's disassociating from this moment. 151 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,280 So I'm like, I feel like she was. 152 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,640 I feel like the trauma has been ratcheting up, like with One 153 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,159 Cent pushing her. And so she's like disassociating 154 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:44,240 already before she even gets in the room with the creepy 155 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,600 photographer. Did you notice that? 156 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,200 I was like, she doesn't seem OK and we haven't even gotten there 157 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,360 yet. I wonder if she was thinking if 158 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,400 like this is something she even wants to begin. 159 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,560 With. Because like again, she's been 160 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:57,320 doing it since the toothbrush commercial when she was younger. 161 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,200 So like they. Say canonically she's been 162 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,160 acting since she was eight, that 8 when she was 8 years old, 163 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,720 that's when this all started. So we don't know how old she was 164 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,160 with the toothbrush commercial, but like 8 years old was when 165 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,120 she was started in the entertainment industry and she's 166 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,320 like in her 20s now. Yeah. 167 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,840 So I'm sure she's probably like, do I even want to keep doing 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,320 this? But like probably being told by 169 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,240 her mother, like I'll be so proud of you if you do this, if 170 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,120 you do that, so. Does she have conversations with 171 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,840 her mom? Like I don't even know that her 172 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,760 family, her family period family, I don't know that her 173 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,240 family talks to her. I think the middle man has one 174 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,320 son and like everything goes through the manager and like, 175 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,480 who knows what isn't or isn't going through the manager 176 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,040 because the manager has a vested interest in Sasha performing and 177 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,080 doing well because that's how she gets paid. 178 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Not a great babysitter, you know what I mean? 179 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,320 Like the babysitter is like, I'm profiting off of you. 180 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,600 So Mom's going to be so proud of who knows what mom is. 181 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,000 And then The thing is they keep putting it on her mother, but 182 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,160 like, where's the rest of her family? 183 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,080 Where's dad? Because mom has a step husband, 184 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,600 has a new husband. So where's dad? 185 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,120 Where's the where's her auntie's? 186 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,800 Where's grandma? Like where's the rest of the 187 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,320 family? Why is it just mom? 188 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,280 Like nobody is looking out for this girl, nobody that's related 189 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,200 to her. And then she's been pawned off 190 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,000 on her manager who's literally profiting off of her. 191 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,160 So like she's being she's been preyed on since she was 8 years 192 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,680 old. Yeah, it's almost like a child 193 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:30,560 should not be in the entertainment industry. 194 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:31,640 Almost. Yeah, that would. 195 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:34,120 It's almost like they're definitely a normal idea. 196 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,480 There needs to be a requirement like there's someone hired to 197 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,880 just look out for the well-being of a child because is that. 198 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,840 Not the manager who's technically supposed. 199 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,880 To no because they're getting paid based on their acting. 200 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,120 I agree so. I don't know how you would set 201 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,400 up that business model though. That's why allegedly the family 202 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,320 member is looking out. But like also kids can't have 203 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,840 money so like the parent or whoever is related to them is 204 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,680 also praying off of them. Like it's all bad because 205 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:03,920 children don't. Children don't have. 206 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,200 Rights. It's all bad, the whole. 207 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,680 Thing is icky. But back to the scene with 208 00:11:09,680 --> 00:11:11,680 Sasha. Like, I get the vibe that, like, 209 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,200 she seemed pretty checked out already before she even gets in 210 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,760 the room. So I feel like the trauma was 211 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,320 already happening. And who know? 212 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,960 Again, we don't know how old she was in this scenario. 213 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,400 So she wasn't 8, Obviously. I hope not, but like, because 214 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,880 it's the same actor. But like, who knows how old she 215 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,280 actually was. She might have been a minor. 216 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,680 We don't actually know that. Yeah. 217 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,920 So it was already suspicious. And then she gets into the room 218 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,080 and then the man's being all creepy. 219 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,560 And then, OK, so then power of saying no. 220 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:49,120 So, so think about the scenario. So like we kind of just said 221 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,640 like, like one Sen has power over Sasha, right? 222 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,920 Because she's the parental figure and she's the guardian 223 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,080 air quotes and she's her manager and her friend. 224 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,320 Like Sasha said, that's my closest friend, which red 225 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,640 remember red flag, red flag. That's her closest friend. 226 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,000 OK, the woman who profits off of her, right? 227 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,360 OK, so this is 1 authority figure, all right? 228 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,680 And the authority figure before she gets gets in the room was 229 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:16,320 saying go do it. Then she gets in the room with 230 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,720 the dude. OK, he's the guy in charge. 231 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,760 He's the guy who can like quote, make or break everyone here 232 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,160 because he ultimately is the one that's going to employ her or 233 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,240 not, right? So Sasha in the room with this 234 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,800 man feels powerless, OK. And Milk did a great job of 235 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,680 showing us how powerless Sasha felt the whole time, especially 236 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:40,800 when he's like, get naked. Basically, he's like, take your 237 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,720 clothes off. You're a model. 238 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,400 Models are naked sometimes. Just do it, right? 239 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,200 And you see how she feels powerless. 240 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,960 And we as the audience, like, it's really easy to empathize 241 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,200 with Sasha in that scene, right? Because like, you feel terrible 242 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,800 for her because she feels powerless. 243 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,480 And you can see how powerless she feels, right? 244 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:04,080 Like that's palpable. Yeah, you definitely can, yeah. 245 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,560 Right. Did you did you empathize with 246 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:07,640 Sasha? I did. 247 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,440 Did you cry? Yeah, of course. 248 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,400 Well, I didn't cry, but it was very hard to. 249 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,320 Watch that, it's hard to watch. Because it felt so. 250 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,920 Real. It feels so real. 251 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,360 Yeah. It's super uncomfortable. 252 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,680 And that like, that's the point. And like, it's hard to watch 253 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:22,800 that because it just feels so visceral, right? 254 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,440 Because you're empathizing. It's easy to empathize with 255 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,600 Sasha in that scene. And I'm say that to make the 256 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,800 point when I compare to Prim and you're like, what? 257 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,440 It's hard to empathize with Prim. 258 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,800 OK, so just remember that, OK, All right, So basically she's 259 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,680 powerless because everybody else in the room has power over her. 260 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:45,520 OK, then the the insidious gross part for me, not this wasn't 261 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,800 gross was how they're trying to manipulate her. 262 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:54,080 OK, because when Sen and the photographer are both framing 263 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:57,800 their manipulation as they're the rational ones, because Juan 264 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,640 sends like, if you do whatever he says, you'll be famous. 265 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,320 You want to be famous, right? You want to make mom happy? 266 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,800 You want to make me happy, right? 267 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,160 Do what he says. And then he is like, take your 268 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,920 clothes off. And he's like, models take their 269 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,200 clothes off in front of people all the time. 270 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,960 Like you have to be able to do this quickly. 271 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,480 If you can't do this now with just me, how do I know you can 272 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,080 be a model? Like that's how he's 273 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,320 manipulating her. He's basically like trying to 274 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,960 make it sound real rational and like if she says no, she's the 275 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,240 crazy one, which is gross. OK. 276 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,320 I also want to like point out that they usually have like 277 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,800 private areas to change and even if they are changing in front of 278 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,840 people, it's not one-on-one with a man who is. 279 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,520 Filming you to get naked. Who's filming? 280 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,600 It takes out their phone to. Who's filming it? 281 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:48,000 Yeah, yeah, a little different, but like, again, she's not, 282 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,200 hasn't made it yet. So he's, he's the authority 283 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,720 figure. He would know he's in the 284 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,920 industry. Like you see the way she's, it 285 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,320 would be very easy for her to be manipulated because she's 286 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,880 powerless. She knows the least. 287 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,600 These are the authority figures, the people she's supposed to 288 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,840 trust telling her this shit, right? 289 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,520 It's really gross. And this is how women get 290 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,960 trafficked, basically. OK, so once Anne's really gross, 291 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,440 we're sending her in the in there with like Jeffrey Epstein. 292 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,440 That's this guy, right? You know, he sends her in with a 293 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,720 pedophile or whatever, OK, And this all this shit happens to 294 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,760 Sasha. So like Sasha could have said no 295 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,920 at any time during that, right? Because once Anne see Elaine 296 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,080 Maxwell in the scenario, it's basically like, you know, Sasha, 297 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,720 like Sasha brings up her mom or whatever mom comes up and she's 298 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,640 like, you know, you can, you can call your mom, you can go back 299 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,000 to your mom whenever you want. Basically be like you can say 300 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,600 no, like you don't have to be here. 301 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,840 I mean, your mom wants you to be here. 302 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,400 Like you see that she manipulates her and she's like, 303 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,720 you know, you could say no, whatever. 304 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,160 And when she's in the room with the dude, what does she think 305 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,400 of? She thinks of when one sends 306 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,520 like, you know, you can go back to your mom whenever you want, 307 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,880 almost like there's an illusion that she has a choice here. 308 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,560 But like Sasha feels like she really doesn't have a choice 309 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,480 because everyone is stacked against her Mom wants her to be 310 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,720 here, wants then wants her to be here. 311 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,280 This dude wants her to be here. Everything, everything is riding 312 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,200 on her being famous, right? So she feels like she can't say 313 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,560 no, so she doesn't. Even though she can say no and 314 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,920 walk out of there like she can't. 315 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,920 She just doesn't. OK? 316 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,560 So that's the power of like, if she said no, this would have 317 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,480 never happened. But then like everyone's mad at 318 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,480 her, so she doesn't say no. So she feels powerless, right? 319 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,840 OK, now let's go compare this to the A plot. 320 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,720 OK, so over in the A plot, we have Aries. 321 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,240 Aries in the A plot. OK, so we have a same scenario. 322 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Not same because there's no one's filming anybody. 323 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,760 Sasha's is worse. We have a very similar scenario 324 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,480 going with Prim and Ary. OK, so in the middle of the 325 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,280 episode we have Prim alone with Ary. 326 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,480 So that should have been a red flag to Prim, but apparently 327 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,760 not. So Prim is finalizing this music 328 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,160 video. To your point, she I'm sorry, 329 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,560 the music video, the music video in this episode goes through 330 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,520 several rounds of edits and like the first draft that she shows 331 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,640 Bambi honestly looked better. It she used more more scenes 332 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,400 where Goria and Sasha looked in love. 333 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,640 And then in the second draft, I was like, these are the worst 334 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,200 possible of those scenes you could have picked because 335 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,760 they're clearly fighting on screen. 336 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:13,720 So. It honestly doesn't work with 337 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,880 the romantic music playing, It's really horrible. 338 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:18,720 Actually. Made me laugh. 339 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,599 The music video is so bad. It's a hot mess guys. 340 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,599 That's Prim. It's just Prim is a mess. 341 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,400 Anyway, that made me laugh. OK, so they're alone, right? 342 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,120 And then Arie does the thing where so this is after like she 343 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:37,560 hugs Prim in the bathroom, that whole thing. 344 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,200 She's like, I don't have a partner, which, OK, I'm sorry, 345 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,480 really pretty. No, just jump. 346 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,160 In this pissed me off. Can you jump in whatever because 347 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,640 she's like can I hug you and then immediately hugs her. 348 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,360 She doesn't wait for the consent part. 349 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:51,080 Arie's not into. Consent. 350 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,520 No, she's not whatsoever. But like you don't ask someone 351 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,400 can I hug you as you're actively hugging them. 352 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,160 They're like I, I, I guess. So that's taking away her 353 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,960 autonomy there. Yeah, that was weird as fuck. 354 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,560 You know she's the villain in a GMMTV show. 355 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,440 When they don't care about consent, that's always a GMTV. 356 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,800 No one remember. I think that's why they had to 357 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,120 have the scene in the very first episode where we forgot to give 358 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:19,400 love to this scene. But we in the scene, the first 359 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,920 episode with Prim and Gloria where Prim's like, you can't be 360 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,560 drunk for this because consent is important because they had to 361 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,640 be like Prim's not a feeling. Even though you're going to like 362 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,920 not like Prim most of the show, she's not a villain. 363 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,600 We just have to make that clear. She cares about consent. 364 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,720 She's not a villain, guys. You're not going to like her. 365 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,160 Just just so you know, that's why I think. 366 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,000 They made us fall for her in the beginning, so we'd think we're 367 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,160 going insane when we start not liking her. 368 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,600 And then we'd be like what? What's going on? 369 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,320 I thought she was my favorite. No, she's not my favorite. 370 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,600 What is happening? She's people. 371 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,160 She's people. Prim's. 372 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,040 Insufferable. But yeah, Prim is people. 373 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,120 So here's another scene where Prim is insufferable. 374 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:58,640 OK, right. So thank you. 375 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,600 Please interject. Whatever. 376 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,680 So all right, so we're back in the room with the horrible 377 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,880 second draft that Prim thinks is great, and then Aries there and 378 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,680 Aries does the thing where she's like, I think anyone would be 379 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,160 happy to have you as their girlfriend. 380 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,600 Which girl have you not paid attention to Prim? 381 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,960 I don't. I don't think Goria you dodged a 382 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,560 bullet girl, because like if you got involved with Prim, you'd be 383 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,800 more traumatized than you are now. 384 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,000 Like you don't want Prim is not a good girlfriend. 385 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,600 I just need to say that Cory dodge a bullet. 386 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,640 But anyway, the Aries not on that train. 387 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,400 So she puts her hand on Prim's knee. 388 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:37,720 OK. And if you watch Prim, Prim's 389 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,440 hand goes to move like really quickly towards Aries hand, but 390 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,440 then she holds back. So like her instinct is to like 391 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,440 move Aries hand to make the stop, but that's as far as it 392 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,720 goes. And then Prim looks 393 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,200 uncomfortable if you look at her, but ultimately Prim does 394 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,400 nothing. Prim doesn't say no. 395 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,600 And the difference between this scene and the Sasha scene is 396 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,160 that Prim has all of the power in this scene, all of it. 397 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,000 This is an employee employer situation. 398 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,840 Prim is the employer. Prim can just be like I will 399 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,800 call HR if you keep doing like she has all of the power. 400 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,880 She does. In this scene, all of it. 401 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,760 And then Prim. So Prim is not empathetic in the 402 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,920 scene because she's knows what's going on, hence her hand moving. 403 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,480 She knows this is wrong. She when Arie goes away, she 404 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,520 looks uncomfortable like she knows this is wrong and she had 405 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,480 all of the power to say yes. Unlike Sasha who felt like she 406 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,040 she could have said no, but Sasha felt like she couldn't say 407 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,560 no because she was the most powerless person in that 408 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,760 scenario. Prim is the most powerful. 409 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,120 Prim chooses to say nothing. She does not address it. 410 00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:51,000 She just evades out of it and being like, I'm hungover, I need 411 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,120 coffee, OK. And then Prim has the 412 00:20:55,120 --> 00:21:00,960 motherfucking audacity audacity to gaslight Bambi when Bambi 413 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,840 brings it out. Oh, yeah, OK. 414 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,160 What? The fuck I I also wrote this. 415 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,680 Thing that like Prim says nothing and she has the power 416 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:16,720 here because but I want to like state that we're not blaming 417 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,120 Prim for this happening because like she is technically the 418 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:23,520 victim here because. Blaming Prim because she does it 419 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,920 all the time. OK, but but like, it's Arie 420 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,680 doing this, correct? Yes, Arie, she knows what Arie's 421 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,240 doing. She doesn't stop it, but it's 422 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,280 not her fault that Arie is doing it. 423 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,160 Correct, correct. However, prim by prim not 424 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,560 addressing it prim enables the behavior. 425 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,200 Yes. Which is why Arie keeps 426 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,560 escalating what she's doing. And because she has the power 427 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,600 she could like, it would be very easy for her to say. 428 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,280 Something. There is no contextual reason 429 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,120 why Prim doesn't say no. That's what I mean. 430 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:53,880 Prim is not empathetic in the scene. 431 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,800 Prim has a girlfriend that Arie knows about. 432 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:01,080 They are at work. This is sexual harassment. 433 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:04,880 Also Prim has a girlfriend that Arie knows about and like. 434 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:11,240 So contextually, Prim has all the all the power to say no, but 435 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,600 she chooses not to. And Prim's body language shows 436 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,640 you she knows this is wrong. It's not that. 437 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,880 It's not like remembering somewhere, somehow where key 438 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,560 who's like popular with women, like Prim right? 439 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,640 And Key gets hit on and but she's so stupid. 440 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,280 I love her to death. That's my favorite character. 441 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,120 Don't come from her. She's oblivious to the flirting, 442 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:33,440 so she doesn't realize she's being hit on until her 443 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,920 girlfriend is like, what the fuck are you doing? 444 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,200 And she's like, I didn't even know that was happening because 445 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,480 I'm just an idiot and I can't do humans. 446 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,800 Prim, her body, my language shows us she knows this is 447 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,400 wrong, but she doesn't do anything. 448 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,480 And the guest like Bambi, Bambi's like, girl, this woman 449 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,040 is hitting on you and Prim's in the bathtub being like, wow, 450 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,360 Bambi, you just met her. You're already jealous. 451 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,440 We're just working together. Girl, you know this is wrong. 452 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,560 Like that's why I can't have this with Prim because I'm like 453 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,040 you, you're aware of this. It's a. 454 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,560 It's different when you're aware of it. 455 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,520 Oh yeah, yeah, no, I feel bad for Ben and BE. 456 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Here I feel bad for Bambi baby. It's not not. 457 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,480 Prim sees what's going on. Prim knows. 458 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,520 That's what makes Prim insufferable and on epithet like 459 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,560 the most red flag character in the fucking show. 460 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:24,600 What a plot twist that was. But with Arie, So the issue with 461 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,640 Arie more than, not more than, but like in addition to her 462 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,440 hitting on Prim when she knows that she has a girlfriend is the 463 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,160 fact that Arie has a partner who I know. 464 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,280 Who? What's the word? 465 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,920 They're they're who presumably breaks up with her in this 466 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,200 episode, which I'm still thinking about. 467 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,320 That might be staged. Oh yeah. 468 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,040 But like if she also has a partner that means she was going 469 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,880 after and cheating on her partner. 470 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:03,840 Now you could argue the fact that their relationship was on 471 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,440 the out, she wasn't feeling needed, she was acting out. 472 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,520 But like she's still going after another woman. 473 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,760 Even if that relationship was fizzling out, she could have 474 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,760 ended that relationship first then going after another woman. 475 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,680 100% they're still cheating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 476 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,160 And no. She's going to say it's not 477 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:26,520 about her partner breaking up with her when she's actively 478 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,640 going after someone. However, I feel like she knew 479 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,000 that Prim was in that bathroom and that phone call was 480 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,720 completely. Fake I agree I think that was I 481 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,480 think it was staged because it's not that Prim walked into the 482 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,200 bathroom she was on a stall and came out. 483 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,520 I agree I think that was staged. I think that's the when Bambi 484 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,680 again she keeps gas like Bambi in the previous of the next 485 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,680 episode where babies like you really believe this two faced 486 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,800 liar. I think Aries full of shit I 487 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,960 yeah, oh, I have a whole I carry over that yeah, no, I just I 488 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,240 love Bambi more and more with every episode and just I just 489 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,240 feel for. Her more and more every episode. 490 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,640 The way primed like gaslights Bambi. 491 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760 I'm like girl. Like no, no wonder she's like so 492 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,560 guarded and. Jealous all the fucking time. 493 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,200 Jealous because you're. Told that nothing's going on 494 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,760 when she can clearly see it. She's not stupid. 495 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,360 No, she's not. And you know what I kind of 496 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,360 think while while watching this was like, I think that Prim 497 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,960 likes when Bambi's jealous. I wonder if she gets off on that 498 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,120 like Bambi like going off the rails and being super 499 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:31,600 possessive. Like it's like in the moment 500 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,360 when Bambi's like having verbally sparring with Airy, 501 00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:36,360 Prim looks uncomfortable. Notice Prim doesn't say 502 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:37,640 anything. Prim says nothing. 503 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,840 She just does the thing where she shrinks and she's real 504 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,080 quiet, but she doesn't say she doesn't stop Bambi. 505 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,960 Because I love, I love the argument where Aries in there 506 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,600 like they're ending their meeting and Bambi walks in and 507 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,800 then Bambi's like they're having this verbal sparring and Bambi. 508 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,520 And that's when it comes out that Arie has a girlfriend and 509 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,800 she's like, oh, we've been fighting a lot recently. 510 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,480 She's trying to make herself seem empathetic. 511 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,000 In your scenario where this is fake and I'm with you, but Bambi 512 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,800 is like, oh, you're having relationship problems. 513 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,160 You should probably go fucking work on those. 514 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,520 Like Prim will give you time off and Prim's fine with that. 515 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,800 Like she just, she says that and like something to that effect. 516 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,520 And then Prim's just sitting there saying nothing. 517 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,960 Bami's like, you can take off work and go deal with that shit. 518 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,680 Leave my girlfriend, Fred doesn't. 519 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,760 Stop. Sorry, that's a funny thing 520 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,920 there, looking at the both of them clearly knowing what's 521 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,520 happening right now. And she doesn't stop that 522 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,320 either. I know it's fucking ridiculous. 523 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,760 This is your business. Girl, take charge of something 524 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,600 for once. We get that Bambi's the top, 525 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,280 Come on man, I get it, but God damn it, Prim. 526 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,240 But then like Prim has amnesia because later on when they're in 527 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,080 the bathtub and together after all this fucking happens, Prim 528 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:54,440 pretends like it never happened. She's like, why are you so 529 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,280 jealous, Bambi? I'm like, you literally watched 530 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,120 them fight over you and you're what is wrong with you pram? 531 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,600 Like how fucking dare you? Because like like in as but 532 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,280 that's my point. Like in the moment it seems like 533 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,440 Perm is uncomfortable with the jealousy, but then like behind 534 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,240 closed doors, she seems like oh, that was cute you were jealous. 535 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,640 Like you know, I don't what is wrong. 536 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,520 Prim needs to be in therapy by herself. 537 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,760 I guess that too for a while because like what is she doing? 538 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,160 That's what Prim is so unlikable as a character because she's so 539 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,360 she's a hot and cold person and then like is infecting Bambi. 540 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,080 I think I'm more apathetic towards Bambi now. 541 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,800 Well, yeah. And back to the bathtub scene, I 542 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:41,480 feel like Bambi has not given been given enough love and or 543 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,880 attention from her mother because, yeah, sure, the little 544 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,840 bit of attention that Prim gives her in the love that she gives 545 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,160 her, she's willing to take it. She's like, oh, I'm the best in 546 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,760 all of the world, not just Thailand. 547 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,320 And she's just happy in the relationship because she wants 548 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,040 to believe in that part. She doesn't want to see the 549 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:02,720 other part. Like, yeah, she's jealous, but 550 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,120 she doesn't want to see that there could be issues and that 551 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:08,280 Prim could actually leave her. She's trying to hold on to the 552 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,840 happiness. It could also be that like 553 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,000 because again, we don't really get into Bambi and her dad, but 554 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,920 her dad's dead. So it could be that like Bambi's 555 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,440 and like Dee's dead. So this could all be really 556 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,120 setting back to the fact that Bambi's afraid of losing people 557 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:26,040 that matter to her and so she's terrified of losing Prim. 558 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,120 Even though their relationship is not perfect, Prim's hers and 559 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:33,520 she's terrified of losing Prim and so she's that's why I feel 560 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,520 like her. Maybe her jealousy is like more 561 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,960 extreme now, especially after ZE dying, you know, so she's afraid 562 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,280 of just losing people period, especially Prim because clearly 563 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,040 she was like still in love with Prim during that time and all 564 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,560 that kind of stuff. So I think she's double 565 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,680 terrified of like losing Prim. So she's even more jealous when 566 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,160 someone threatens what's hers kind of thing. 567 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,560 She's super possessive, but a bitch died. 568 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,480 A bitch has died. Like we've not dealt with the 569 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,000 death yet yet. No, because we did not go 570 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,040 through go to therapy that year when she really needed to the 571 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,840 most. And she's still not going to 572 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,080 therapy. So yeah, I just, I have, I just, 573 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,840 I thought that that was really interesting, the power of saying 574 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,320 no and like feeling like you can't say no when you look at 575 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,160 Sasha's scenario versus prim scenario. 576 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,360 And then to me, the adult version of that is the C plot of 577 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,040 all plots has like the power of saying no. 578 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,720 And then like, because in that scenario, you basically have 579 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,360 Prim and Prow or not Prim. I'm sorry, Men and Prow are on 580 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,760 in that situation where prow doesn't want to be in a closeted 581 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,000 relationship. And then men is like, I have my 582 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,160 fucking family to deal with. Like I can't make them not 583 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,800 homophobic overnight. Like it. 584 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,800 That's not how that works. And they like they both in their 585 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,720 conversations with each other. Something I really like about 586 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,880 the C plot is that they're probably the most emotionally 587 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,880 intelligent couple, I would say because they talk about their 588 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,880 feel their own feelings and have no issue expressing them to each 589 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,080 other. And that was like one of the 590 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,160 things I really loved about this episode, especially when they 591 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,080 were well, I'm actually in both of their scenes. 592 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,240 In the scene where like Min confronts Prow at her like 593 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,560 studio and then like later at Min's bedroom, they both have 594 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,280 these conversations where they're talking about how they 595 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,160 feel and they're very good at being like, you know, this is 596 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,480 how I feel. I don't want to feel like this. 597 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,720 And probably like, OK, well, don't make me me feel guilty 598 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,080 about how I feel. This is how I feel. 599 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,400 And like they're very good at like communicating that. 600 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,440 But they're in a situation where like they both could say no 601 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,480 like, and walk away from each other, but they don't. 602 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,880 They talk to each other and, and be like, this is my boundary. 603 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,440 This is what I'm saying no to when it comes to our 604 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,360 relationship. Like men's, like, I can't be 605 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,680 fully out with you right now because I have this family 606 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,280 thing. It's going to be slow to get 607 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,960 them to accept me. So I have to take this. 608 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,920 We have to take this slow versus like and then Prow is like, OK, 609 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,440 well, I don't want to be like totally in the closet with you. 610 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,880 So men's like, OK, there's a compromise. 611 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,840 How about you come meet my family and then you see where 612 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,320 I'm coming from. Like I can give you that Now 613 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,520 that will be that's more of that's a status thing. 614 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,720 I'm bringing you to my family. That's what you want. 615 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,800 Like is that OK as a compromise and they end up compromising 616 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,360 with each other? So like they in that scenario, 617 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,480 they both say no to their boundaries but then find a 618 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,560 middle ground kind of thing. So like power of no wasn't all 619 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,760 the plots. I thought that was actually 620 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,520 really interesting how it was being written and presented and 621 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,360 just makes me hate prayer more. Yes, I mean. 622 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,760 Yeah. No, that's definitely the big 623 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,480 thing is her position of power makes it easier for her to say 624 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,680 no. And it makes it really, and it 625 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,040 makes her unlikable because she doesn't, because she can. 626 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,160 She has all the power to say no and she just doesn't. 627 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,120 And then this big wait in that conversation, though, I love the 628 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,920 conversation with Arie, when because Arie said about the X or 629 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,560 whatever and Prim, Prim has the fucking audacity to like try to 630 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,480 give this big life advice. And she's like, don't let things 631 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,800 bottle up. Like Prim, do you hear the 632 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,040 fucking words coming out of your mouth? 633 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,160 You probably listen to yourself. This is another example of it's 634 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,320 easier to tell our friends, give our friends advice, then take it 635 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,960 ourselves. Prim is the embodiment of that 636 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,880 because she's been telling men since the beginning like you 637 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,400 need to break up with your boyfriend because he's toxic. 638 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,040 And then men's like you're dating Bambi, what are you 639 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,720 doing? Have you seen your relationship, 640 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,680 Prim? I love men. 641 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,240 I like earlier when men was like, OK, when she gets back 642 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,240 together with Bambi and men's like you've lost all authority 643 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,680 to tell me what to do in my relationship because look at 644 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,000 you, you don't take your own advice. 645 00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:01,360 Yeah, yeah, that's true. 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Sorry Kay Brewster and Nye H. 657 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,640 Thank you. Thank you so much for all of 658 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,760 your support and thank you to each and everyone of you. 659 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,480 We each really appreciate you and could not be doing this 660 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,000 without you. No. 661 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,040 Seriously, we'd just be talking into a void without anyone 662 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,239 listening. Again, this is a regular 663 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,480 conversation, so this is what we do normally. 664 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,120 These are just normal conversations we're having, 665 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:17,920 sorry. Anyway. 666 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,000 It's so easy. She doesn't help me like her. 667 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,639 Is she there? I have some positive pro moments 668 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,440 in this episode. I will bring them up, 'cause 669 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:28,880 she's human being, she's just not. 670 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,360 There are good and bad to every single person and everything's 671 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,280 not black and white. There's not 100%. 672 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,320 There's basically only morally Gray. 673 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,639 We pretend like there isn't. Yes. 674 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,920 That's Disney's fault for conditioning us to think that 675 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,360 there isn't a morally Gray. Yeah, again, we're humans, and 676 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,159 humans make mistakes. We do OK. 677 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,080 Something I just want to bring up real quick, just to round out 678 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,720 that whole thing we were talking about going back to Sasha and 679 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,000 the casting cows, Epstein island thing. 680 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,360 She would just went through OK, where she felt powerless to say 681 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,520 no to me. Go watching all of that really 682 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:15,520 changed the context of the first time she saw Gloria and she was 683 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,760 on set and similar scenario, right? 684 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,560 It was a big famous photographer. 685 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,080 So here's one sentence. She got her in with the first 686 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,520 guy and then kept doing that, right? 687 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,600 She kept taking her to famous photographers or whatever famous 688 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,280 people to work with. And so she's in that scenario 689 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:36,120 where Sasha is, it's six months prior to when girl rule starts 690 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,760 and that's when she finds the Gloria. 691 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,520 And like in that scenario, she was like this guy is going to 692 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,480 make me late for my next appointment because he's taking 693 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,040 his sweet ass time. Like I'm going to miss my next 694 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:53,280 booking go do something. And once said this confirms me. 695 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,440 That bitch did nothing because he was a famous guy and she 696 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,240 doesn't want to piss him off. So she probably didn't do 697 00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,800 anything. And so it changed the context of 698 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,720 like Goria and and Sasha watching Goria literally say no 699 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,720 to the famous guy. Literally she was powerless in 700 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:09,160 that scenario. And the dude points it out 701 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,160 because she doesn't know who got. 702 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:14,000 So Goria is right and this guy's like you're a no name stylist. 703 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,000 Like what? You're obviously wrong. 704 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,640 I'm right because I'm the famous guy and she's like, this is what 705 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,920 we agreed on. Fuck you. 706 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,440 I don't I'm not working with you. 707 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,960 No. And she leaves. 708 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,000 So here, here it is. Like this is the embodiment of 709 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,840 like what Sasha probably wishes she could have done in that 710 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,560 original incident that traumatized her. 711 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,160 And she's watching somebody do what she wished she had, the 712 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,600 courage. This really brave little girl, 713 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,360 little woman, this tiny little like 100 LB wet girl. 714 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,400 Like it's like fuck you and like leaves. 715 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,360 How empowering is that to watch? That's why Cassandra then is 716 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,400 like, who was that? Because, like, it really changed 717 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,080 that context for me because I feel like that healed Sasha's 718 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,480 inner child a little bit, watching Gloria do that, you 719 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,400 know, because she wishes so, Yeah. 720 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,880 Like if you compare those two scenes, it really goes to show 721 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,360 you that like, Sasha, even though she felt powerless, had 722 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,040 the power to say no. It's just everybody around her 723 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,480 manipulated her into thinking that she didn't. 724 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,880 But Gloria is proof in that scene that like, even if you're 725 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,000 powerless, you can still say the the one without the power. 726 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:27,280 You can still say no and leave. Which gives prim even more or 727 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,480 less excuse. Yeah, fuck Brim. 728 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,600 But like, like, damn, like, you know what I mean? 729 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,720 Like, it really that changed that scene for me because I was 730 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:37,320 like, wow, like that. No wonder Sasha was enamoured 731 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,040 immediately because like, she felt like, that's my hero right 732 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,320 there, you know? Yeah, she was definitely like 733 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,640 looked up to her at that point, even though again, she's a 734 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,400 smaller one. I know I don't. 735 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:54,120 I love that the little feisty 1 is so combative, but Gory is so 736 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,480 fucking brave. Like she's really brave. 737 00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:01,440 I love that about her. She has she has the ovaries to 738 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,640 be like, I'm fucking leave it like you're wrong, bitch. 739 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,520 See ya. I don't basically being like, I 740 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,120 don't need you to get where I got to go. 741 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,360 I'd rather she's like, I would rather sell noodles than work 742 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,960 with an unprofessional person. I don't care how fucking famous 743 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,600 you think you are. Like goodbye. 744 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,800 Yeah, and she's not about to sell out her values and like 745 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,480 when she knows that she's right. Yeah, but also on the flip side, 746 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,920 that could have made Sasha feel worse when she's like, wow, I 747 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,520 gave in when to somebody who was being super unprofessional, 748 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,600 like, you know, because it's a very similar situation, like 749 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,240 Sasha's way grosser and more predatory, but like, similar 750 00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:39,400 kind of scenario, you know? Yeah. 751 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,560 So very interesting. Very interesting. 752 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,600 All right. Other thing I super love about 753 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:55,440 this, this particular episode is it, it just really dawned on me 754 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,160 how much of A feminist piece of work that girls really is. 755 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,800 First of all, are there any men aside from like creepy 756 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,640 photographers and men's people surrounding men? 757 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,520 There are like no men in the show. 758 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,800 It's mostly women and mostly women. 759 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:13,760 Are there straight women in the show? 760 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:20,800 I don't think they're no no except people in men's flat 761 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,960 lines. It's like the only straight 762 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,200 people. So I love that. 763 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,280 So it kind of is the L word, because if you, like, run into 764 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,880 somebody, they're probably queer, yes. 765 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,120 And that's beautiful. It is. 766 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,920 It is, but OK. So I realized that this was a 767 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,840 very feminist piece of literature because first of all, 768 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,480 at all the stuff we talked about before where they have like 769 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,080 domestic violence against women and like all that kind of stuff, 770 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,400 this episode was the embodiment of like the power of women 771 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,640 supporting women. I mean, the downfalls of like 772 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,520 women not supporting women. So I would say that's another 773 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,000 theme. So I think it's most evident in 774 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,120 Sasha's plot line. So once, Oh my God, this poor 775 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,960 girl. The way she was like so torn up 776 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,120 about this. And then, like we said, she was 777 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,800 going to push gory away and then Gory's going to be like, I don't 778 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,880 know about this. And but the way everybody comes 779 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,880 together to support her first with Sasha getting drunk black 780 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:23,600 literally black out drunk and aunt the bartender bar the owner 781 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,440 of blossom like takes her home. Like she could have, like she 782 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,840 didn't. Need to do any of that. 783 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,680 She could have been like get out of my bar. 784 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,320 Like she took care of she took her home. 785 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,120 And then Sasha starts probably ugly crying about the whole 786 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,240 scenario because she's blackout drunk and doesn't know what's 787 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:43,440 going on. Aunt hears the story. 788 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,520 OK, If she was an opportunist, she could have like leaked this 789 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,760 to the press, you know what I mean? 790 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,080 But she doesn't. She calls Goria, whom she knows 791 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,920 Sasha quote fired or isn't taking care of her, calls Goria 792 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,320 because she's like, listen, come get your girl. 793 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,200 Like I know you're looking out. Come get her and tells Goria 794 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,000 everything that's happening. She's like, she's a hot mess 795 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:06,520 because her manager's a monster. And so Goria then comes and gets 796 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,360 her and like gives her this pep talk, which that scene when they 797 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,240 were alone in ants, first of all, Goria in her outside 798 00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:15,000 clothes in aunt's bed, That was weird. 799 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,000 That was a little weird. But anyway, this this doesn't 800 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,520 matter. So that was weird. 801 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,360 But anyway, so they're having that conversation where Sasha's 802 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,680 upset and basically Goria in the converse in that scene tells 803 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,080 Sasha, you're not alone. And I feel like that's the thing 804 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,280 that's been plaguing Sasha forever, since she was 8 years 805 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,640 old and literally isolated by adults who are profiting off of 806 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,680 her. And here's Goria telling her 807 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,800 that. And then like literally 808 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,520 everything in the rest of the episode demonstrates that she is 809 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,440 not alone. Starts, starts with aunt, then 810 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,880 Goria, then literally everybody else comes together for that 811 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,960 press conference. Everybody you know. 812 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,800 Yeah, yeah. That kind of goes with the theme 813 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,440 that I thought of for this episode, which is just that the 814 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,520 fear of loneliness was connected throughout all the plot lines. 815 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,920 I think everybody's got a little bit of that all the time. 816 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,240 Yeah, and like span with Sasha and Gloria. 817 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:27,720 Like when Sasha wakes up that morning, they were talking, 818 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:30,560 Well, first of all, even that the night before she was like, I 819 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,960 live alone anyway. So, so like when she wakes up, 820 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,760 she's like, I have no one to lean on anyway. 821 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,240 And then that's exactly when Gloria comes in the room and 822 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,400 she's like, Are you sure about that? 823 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:54,120 And I just, I love that Goria showed her that she can lean on 824 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,240 her when she needs someone. And it was just so powerful. 825 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:05,960 And then to see how everyone really rallied around her, it 826 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:11,760 kind of like seeing that I'm sure I'm getting ahead of 827 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:16,560 myself. So like the fear of loneliness 828 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,920 continues in Prow and Men's storyline with the way that, 829 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,440 first of all, this was a low blow for men to do. 830 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:34,080 Min tells Prow that she isn't alone like she is, that she has 831 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,240 people who like she has to. I forget. 832 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:41,040 She's like, basically, I have other people in my life I have 833 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,760 to consider when I do things. I'm not alone like you are. 834 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,800 Meaning like I have family. You don't. 835 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,320 Yeah, but Min catches herself and she's like, I'm sorry, I 836 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,040 didn't mean it that way. Like, she catches herself 837 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,640 immediately and immediately apologizes. 838 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,400 So like, yeah, I don't think she like, yeah, she's just like, I I 839 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,200 that's not what I meant. Like, sorry, like. 840 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,520 But Min's trying to make the point that, like, my I I'm not 841 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,200 just out here doing what I want selfishly. 842 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,760 Like, I have other people in my life that I have to, like, take 843 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,560 into account when I do things like, you know, But she's not 844 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,400 wrong. Proud does have the freedom to 845 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,160 be her uninhibited self because she doesn't have this like 846 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,320 conservative family breathing down her neck. 847 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,240 But that's what Min was trying to make. 848 00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:27,480 But the way it came out was just very like hurtful. 849 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,600 And you can see it on Prowl space. 850 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,360 She's like, wow. And the way she said it too, 851 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,680 kind of like feels like I confirmed that Prowl has no 852 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:42,080 support system and I just hope like we see like this whole 853 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,000 group rally around Prow at some point like. 854 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,320 They did for. Sasha, because I think she 855 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,560 especially needs to show, needs to know that like there's people 856 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,920 there for her 'cause I feel like that's a little bit of her 857 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,920 firing this is that she has to take care of herself, yeah, 858 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,440 100%. And that she like, so she has to 859 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,760 protect herself. Yeah, by doing that so. 860 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,400 Yeah, you're right. Being having someone who she can 861 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,760 talk to and rely on, maybe that would make her like chill out a 862 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,760 little bit more and not have to be on guard so much. 863 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,440 And then obviously with Prim, not prim Bambi. 864 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:33,720 Bambi is just, that's her main background right now is so it 865 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:40,960 just kind of ties into everyone. But can we talk about men and 866 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,320 that scene with her family? Oh, wait. 867 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,560 Wait, I, I in a minute, I'll get to that. 868 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,200 I want to finish this. It ties into my women supporting 869 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,240 women supporting women and women not supporting women whole 870 00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:56,360 thing. So going back to Bambi first for 871 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,680 a second, OK, Because like I like like we were talking about 872 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,200 like the the embodiment of women supporting women is really this 873 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,080 press conference for Sasha. OK. 874 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,880 And there's a couple things I want to talk about there that I 875 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,600 thought was really, really harped on, like the women 876 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,920 supporting women thing. So first of all, all the 877 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,560 friends, like all the queer women set this thing up. 878 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,440 Get Sasha's lawyer, Goria runs it. 879 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,960 And then there's a couple of like key conversations in there 880 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,920 that I thought were very much like women supporting women. 881 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,920 So like Bipor is the first one. So Bipor comes in and talks to 882 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,320 Sasha. First of all, Prim's in there 883 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,560 first. I'll circle back to Prim. 884 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,360 I'm gonna start with Bipor. But Prim's in there. 885 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,360 And you've noticed when Bipor walks into the room, Prim, they 886 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,960 have this like, silent exchange because you know the history 887 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,120 between Sasha and Bipor and it's. 888 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,760 And then Prim puts her like, hand on Bipor's shoulder like, 889 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,400 like supportively and like leaves. 890 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,120 So like, she's a good sister. I have to point that out about 891 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,640 Prim. She's good. 892 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,760 She's like, are you going to be OK with this? 893 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,040 That's kind of like their silent exchange and then Bipor like 894 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,600 apologizes to Sasha and tells her like I'm rooting for you 895 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,920 today. And she's like, hey, that weird 896 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,840 shit that happened with us that was coming from me, like and I'm 897 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,680 sorry, I'm sorry if I made you feel uncomfortable and like so I 898 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,160 like that they talk and like Sasha's like you know, I'm 899 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,880 flirtatious with everyone because that's my job. 900 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,720 So sorry, but I like that she apologizes and she's like, hey, 901 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:23,280 I know we had a past, but like I'm still here to support you, 902 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,680 right kind of thing. So there's that. 903 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,280 And then Bambi, I fucking love that Gori is Corey is running 904 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,080 this thing. Bambi comes in the room like a 905 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,840 fucking tornado. And then Bori's like, I got 906 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,560 this, Bambi stay over there. But Bambi's like she's my 907 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,280 friend. I want to help her. 908 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,440 Can I at least pass out the snacks? 909 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,480 And Gori's like, why like like so ferociously. 910 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,600 It's like I'm here for my friend. 911 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,880 Also I'm really surprised that Bambi didn't offer like burn the 912 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,840 place down if shit went sideways because like I feel like she's 913 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,480 that friend you know what I mean? 914 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:03,000 I feel like Bambi would be the the most literal ride or die 915 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,360 ever. Like if you had her as a friend, 916 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,160 you know, like if Sasha's like I need to bury a body, Bambi be 917 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,320 like, Bambi's the one that doesn't ask questions. 918 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,440 She's like, you got a body to bury. 919 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,680 All right, let's go. And then I'll buy drinks at 920 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,520 Blossom's after. Like that's Bambi. 921 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,440 Bambi's that friend. Especially with that duo, yeah. 922 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,440 She's not friend if you're her friend, she's as fiercely 923 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,760 protective of you as she is of her girlfriend. 924 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,560 Like that's Bambi. So I love how Bambi put her 925 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,280 differences with Goria aside to be there for Sasha, right. 926 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,600 She wasn't combative with Goria. She's like, Sasha's my friend. 927 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,480 I want to help her. I'm going to help her. 928 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,480 Give me a here, here's what I can do. 929 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,720 So I was like, fine, then Prim, OK. 930 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:47,400 And this was Prim's shining moment, in my, my opinion. 931 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,880 When she goes backstage to talk to Sasha and she basically gives 932 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:56,280 Sasha a pep talk and, you know, and it was and tells her she's 933 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,280 like, listen, look at all of this, OK? 934 00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,960 Look at all the people she lists them out. 935 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:02,040 She's like, all these people are here to support you. 936 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,120 Like you are not alone. She also makes that point to be 937 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,800 like, you're not alone. You have all the lady bird 938 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,520 people, me, she says us, which I think means me and Mammy, the 939 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,080 lady bird people, Gloria, literally everyone is here for 940 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,720 you. So like you're being supported 941 00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:19,240 by like all of the women in your life are here to support you, 942 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,800 right? And I have to give credit to 943 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,080 Prim because like this in contextually kind of read to me, 944 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,600 like Prim, the director is like hyping up the talent who's 945 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,040 nervous. So to me, I'm like, Prim is 946 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,120 probably really effective at her job and actually would be a good 947 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,920 director because she's like empathetic towards the talent 948 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,360 and like the crew and all the people. 949 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,920 She says she seems like she's a good director. 950 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,520 That's what I got from that. She's hyping up the talent, even 951 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,440 though like her and the talent have a past. 952 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,520 And like, she put that aside for this moment, you know, And like, 953 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,320 was there for Sasha when Sasha was like, she tells her she's 954 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,280 like, I'm really afraid that my emotions are going to get the 955 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,400 best of me when I'm up there and I'm going to start crying. 956 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,960 And I can't, like, hold it together. 957 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,400 And Prim talks are down. Like, that was a good taking 958 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,400 care of the talent thing. So that's my good moment for 959 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,560 Prim in the episode. And the little supportive silent 960 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:15,000 gestures with her sister. It was that, yeah, that was the 961 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,320 best part of her that we've seen. 962 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,840 Yeah. And then like, and then in that 963 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,280 press conference to continue the women supporting women think 964 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,120 Sasha doesn't make the press conference only about herself. 965 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,520 She's like in the press conferences, like I'm speaking 966 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,640 up so that a just help me, but also so that other women feel 967 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,640 comfortable speaking up. So this doesn't happen to 968 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,040 anybody else. Like, and she's like, she 969 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,400 basically takes everything. Little social justice warrior 970 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,440 again, love getting typecasted as a social justice warrior 971 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,120 again, social justice warrior Goria and she basically says 972 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,600 everything Goria. I feel like Goria wrote the 973 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,960 script Sasha 'cause she's saying all these things like you're not 974 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,400 alone. This shouldn't happen to anybody 975 00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,720 else. Like I'm here for you. 976 00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:02,120 Like I'm going to support you. So it's a very like women 977 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,560 supporting women like speech that she also gave, which is 978 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,560 important because remember, remember, let us go back to men 979 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,440 and Prow. Remember men gets harassed by 980 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,480 her ex-boyfriend, the cops, like I'm not doing anything about 981 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,000 this. And then Prow was like, if I was 982 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,560 a celebrity, would you do something? 983 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,240 So like, here's the celebrity being like I was harassed. 984 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,800 Suddenly everybody cares. Notice everybody in the room 985 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,720 suddenly cares. It's it's front page news. 986 00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:29,360 Suddenly we care about harassment. 987 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,320 Mm hmm, mm hmm. Mm hmm, mm hmm. 988 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,520 Very true. So there we are. 989 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,240 OK, all right, anything else to say about the press conference 990 00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:45,480 thing? Otherwise I'm going to pivot 991 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,640 into men, men's family thing. No, go ahead. 992 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,640 All right, so then on the flip side of this, there's the women 993 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,120 not supporting women. OK, so I already went over one 994 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,040 sin, 100% not supporting Sasha ever. 995 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,560 She's just praying on her. So that's an example of like one 996 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,080 sin, like knew Sasha was about to go in the room with a 997 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,720 predator and like talked her into doing it instead of being 998 00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:12,200 like this is unsafe. I'm going to protect you as a, 999 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,800 you know, a woman protecting a woman. 1000 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,400 She put she enabled the situation and like sends her in 1001 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,960 there. And then going into men's plot 1002 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:24,040 line, this is another example of like, women enabling bad 1003 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,960 behavior that harms women. So Min takes Prow home and they 1004 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,080 have dinner. OK. 1005 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,240 And you, it's very obvious by this, this conversation that 1006 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:35,480 this is a very conservative household, which we kind of 1007 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,480 already knew. But then the conversation at 1008 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:44,160 dinner when pivots from Prow into Min and her dad, I think, 1009 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,440 brings up, oh, you, I heard you broke up with Park. 1010 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,600 Why would you do that? What did you do to him? 1011 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,720 Notice the conversation? What did you do to him? 1012 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,240 And she's like, why are you putting this blame on me? 1013 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:58,120 Like he could be a jerk and I left him because he was 1014 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,160 physically and mentally abusing me. 1015 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,320 Notice during that conversation, mom says nothing, grandma says 1016 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,440 nothing. They don't protect men. 1017 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,200 They're just like, well, you know, you'll meet another boy 1018 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,840 one day and have kids and keep the family line. 1019 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:12,960 The family line. What? 1020 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,440 You guys are middle class at best. 1021 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,400 What the family line? Fuck out of here. 1022 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,480 These people with their legacy nonsense like get out of here. 1023 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,800 But I notice they don't protect men and they just, they deflect 1024 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,880 and they're like, you'll try again. 1025 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,280 You'll try again with another boy. 1026 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,480 Nobody is like, I'm glad you got out of that abusive relationship 1027 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,160 you were in. Men they're just like go into 1028 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,080 another one. Notice that women not supporting 1029 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,800 women. So then the cycle of like women 1030 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,240 in trapped in horrible relationships like continues 1031 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:42,960 because we just it's being enabled. 1032 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:50,800 Right, Yeah, it's I, I hated that part, but I was proud of 1033 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,200 men for taking baby steps and, like, standing up for herself 1034 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,840 and calling out her family. Like not only does she like ask 1035 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,600 if she really needs to endure and like tells them like Park 1036 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,520 was abusing her mentally and physically, but she also calls 1037 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,400 out her family for borrowing money from her aunt. 1038 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,040 Oh, I love that. Yeah. 1039 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,920 Showing that they're fucking hypocrites. 1040 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,320 She's like, you guys are sitting here saying she's worthless, her 1041 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,920 life is meaningless because she doesn't have kids and you're 1042 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,320 you're like, she's not in. So they said in the other 1043 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,880 episode that like, my aunt's not my mom was like, don't be a 1044 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,680 disappointment. Like Herman, she's not allowed 1045 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,200 to come to worship ceremonies. Your grandparents don't accept 1046 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,320 her. But they'll take her money, 1047 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,320 though. Yeah, they'll take her money. 1048 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,000 They'll borrow money between. They treat her like family when 1049 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,440 it comes to money. She's like, suddenly it's fine 1050 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,760 now. So you don't have. 1051 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,760 How nice of her to even loan them money. 1052 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:53,000 Like I would be like how like generous of that aunt to even 1053 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,400 loan them money 'cause I would have been like no screw you, you 1054 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,120 ousted me. I don't know this for sure. 1055 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,640 I'm I agree. I think that's a very American 1056 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,640 view. But I think in Thailand it's 1057 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,400 different because especially when like, you know, Sasha as an 1058 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,240 adult is like I send my mother money. 1059 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:09,520 Still. I think there's more of a money 1060 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,400 exchange between family member kind of thing. 1061 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,960 I don't know for sure, but I get the sense conditionally that's 1062 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,840 fair. OK, I want to keep talking about 1063 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:24,480 the men and Prowl scene because I think actually I just want to 1064 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,440 talk about the see go, go, go, go. 1065 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,600 No, I was just like in the beginning I was like, I guess 1066 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,080 Min never told Prowl not to tell her family she was a lesbian. 1067 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,120 Well, that she liked women and Prowl's like you can call that 1068 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,240 whatever you want, but I like women. 1069 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,160 But it was the perfect way for Prowl to see first hand how her 1070 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:49,240 family reacts to this. And just, like, understand a 1071 00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:53,720 little bit about why Min is doing what she's doing. 1072 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,240 Oh, yeah, that is exactly what I wanted to talk about. 1073 00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:00,040 So I'm glad you brought that up because I, I want to talk about 1074 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,280 the C plot in context of that because that's a really good, 1075 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,800 that's a good point that you're bringing up. 1076 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:10,280 So the C plot to me is not, it's not a typical compact story. 1077 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,680 So we kind of talked about in our last girl of episode where 1078 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,840 like on the surface it seems like the typical compact where 1079 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:22,000 it's like an out queer person is dating a, you know, compact 1080 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,960 person who's, you know, it's in the closet for a bit and there's 1081 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,360 friction there, but that's like, yes, that's what's happening 1082 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,840 with. It's so much more complicated 1083 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,520 than that because it's an oversimplification. 1084 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,720 I think that what this episode did is it really brought back 1085 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,760 the fact that proud men have an age gap. 1086 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,160 It doesn't look like it, but they do. 1087 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,360 There is an age gap. This isn't blank. 1088 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,440 It's not a blank. The series age gap for a whole 1089 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,400 ass of a human being age wise is in between them. 1090 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,800 That's not what's happening here. 1091 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,200 But they do. They do have an age gap. 1092 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,600 You broke me. It's not blank. 1093 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,240 OK, but there is an age gap and it's important in the context of 1094 00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:08,560 the compound plot line because Prow is like Gen. 1095 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,760 ZI, like young Gen. ZI would think. 1096 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,840 And she grew up in a time when queerness, it was normalized. 1097 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,920 Proud, never had to be in the closet ever, because she grew up 1098 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,040 in a time where it was like way more accepted. 1099 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,400 I mean, it's not perfect, I know that, but it's like more 1100 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,320 accepted than it's ever been. Versus Min. 1101 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,440 Min is probably more millennial aged maybe or older Gen. 1102 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,800 Z or something, I don't know. Probably keeps calling herself 1103 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:35,200 Gen. Z. 1104 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,840 But then Min's like, how old is she supposed to be? 1105 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,200 Like 25? I'm like, aren't you Gen. 1106 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,920 Z then. He's not Gen. 1107 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,880 Z right now, but like, sure, they're they're implying that 1108 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,400 men is a millennial, but I don't think that's true. 1109 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,440 But either way, men because of their age gap, men grew up in a 1110 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:55,640 time where where queerness was being normalized. 1111 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,080 She's in the transition age. OK, so Quinn has men has 1112 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,400 experienced homophobia more so in society than there is now. 1113 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:08,040 And she saw the change. OK, and then men's family, OK 1114 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,560 grew up when it wasn't normal, when it wasn't normalized, OK, 1115 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,920 Cuz like men's family consists of her mother, father and 1116 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,160 grandparents. So we're dealing with 1117 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,040 generations, OK, and their acceptance and non acceptance of 1118 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,440 queerness. OK, That prow is missing because 1119 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,640 prow was like, I only care about you and me and men's like the 1120 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,720 world is not just you and me. Cuz again, prow is young. 1121 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,080 Young people are always like Romeo and Juliet. 1122 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,040 It's US against the world. It's like, no, there's like 1123 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,760 there's politics involved here. There are other people like it's 1124 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,080 not just us. It's not us the series, there's 1125 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:48,360 other girls. But anyway, so OK. 1126 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,400 And I think that the writers of girls are trying to harp on the 1127 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,960 the age gap this and remind us not harp, but remind us there's 1128 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,840 an age gap because Prim kept saying it. 1129 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,840 She's like your young girlfriend, your puppy 1130 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,400 girlfriend. She kept pointing out the fact 1131 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,000 that proud was young. Proud was younger than men, 1132 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,720 Proud was younger than men. That's what that dialogue is 1133 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,280 meant to do be like she's so their perceptions of this is 1134 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,160 different. So then I think it was really 1135 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,280 great that Min took her home because I think Min is like, 1136 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,960 we're not seeing eye to eye. You need to see this for 1137 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,440 yourself to really understand where I'm coming from. 1138 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,720 So then she brings her home. OK. 1139 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,440 And then they have that conversation, right, where all 1140 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:30,520 the homophobia comes out and the uncle asks, Prow, are you a 1141 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,480 tomboy? And I think that the translation 1142 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,280 was deliberate there because I remember from Gap, not GAP, 1143 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,440 sorry, Blank, that term came out. 1144 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,280 Remember UE when she was like, you're a tomboy, right? 1145 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,600 Whatever that term is is like an antiquated term that's like more 1146 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,160 derogatory for queer people. It's not like remember everybody 1147 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,680 else in Blossom, somebody in Blossom would never say that, 1148 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:55,880 OK? Gen. 1149 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,080 Z would never say that. Millennials won't say that. 1150 00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,560 They'll be like, are you sapphic? 1151 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,520 Are you into women? It's different language, right? 1152 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,800 Because that's not we don't say shit like that, but. 1153 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,080 And so Prow gets asked that question. 1154 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,880 I think that is the most jarring thing out of anything is the 1155 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,440 question she gets asked. She's like, that's what she 1156 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,280 says, call it whatever you want. Let's not a term anybody uses 1157 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,520 anymore. So it shows her how conservative 1158 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,880 outdated their thinking is. Like that hits Prow in the face 1159 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,360 more than anything else that was going on there. 1160 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,880 The fact that she got called that very antiquated term. 1161 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,680 And if you look at Prow, cuz like for me, for my 1162 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,520 understanding that the word they're using in Thai is 1163 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:39,560 implying essentially a woman who lives like a man, not trans but 1164 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,160 mean embodies the male role in a queer relationship. 1165 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,280 Look at Proud when Proud showed up to the dinner table. 1166 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,840 Does she look like she's embodying A masculine role? 1167 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,120 She's wearing a pink shirt with lipstick. 1168 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,560 She looks very feminine. So like the fact that she's 1169 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,400 getting asked that tells Proud a lot about this family and what 1170 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:04,320 men goes through, I think. It's and I think it was really 1171 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,760 good for her to see it first hand because I don't think 1172 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,440 because she's not been in this type of environment. 1173 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,480 No. There's no way for her to 1174 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,520 understand that. Like, yeah, she can be like, 1175 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,880 well, yeah, I get that your parent, you don't want to, like, 1176 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,000 disappoint your parents or like be ousted by your family. 1177 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,640 But it's just it's theoretical and hypothetical for her because 1178 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:32,920 she has no context for it. 100 percent, 100%, yeah. 1179 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,800 And it's not Prow's fault or anything. 1180 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,960 And so I think it was important not just for proud to see it, 1181 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,520 but for proud to experience it because by getting that 1182 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,880 question, she's experiencing first hand what men experiences. 1183 01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,800 So it's not just watching men. It's she gets asked that 1184 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:57,720 question and she's like, whoa, OK, this is what you're dealing 1185 01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,920 with. OK, That took me off guard and I 1186 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,400 thought I understood. Now I get it. 1187 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,400 Now I get it. I have experienced this first 1188 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:09,240 hand. And I wonder if that's going to 1189 01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,200 have her be more understanding in the closetedness of the 1190 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:20,400 relationship because Prow, we have that scene in the bedroom 1191 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,840 where Prow is now once again agreeing to stay closeted with 1192 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,480 this relationship and take it slow again. 1193 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,520 But not, again, her issue was like, you're not being clear 1194 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,880 with me at all. And so Min was being very clear 1195 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,960 in that conversation to be like, it's not that I don't want to 1196 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,720 hold your hand in public. It's not that I don't want to be 1197 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:41,920 because that's what proud was worried about. 1198 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,680 She's like, why can't we just be like every other couple? 1199 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,560 Why, why do you, why do you not want that Min? 1200 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,440 Why do you not want that Min? I want the status of being a 1201 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,840 girlfriend. I want people to know. 1202 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,800 And so Min clears it up. She's like, it's not that I 1203 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,880 don't want that. Why wouldn't I want that? 1204 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,640 You're great. It's not that I don't want to do 1205 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,240 these things. It's just that I have these 1206 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,520 other people in my life that are not accepting of that. 1207 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,320 So I can't come out and do that right now. 1208 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,680 I need to like work on like this is has to be slow because of the 1209 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,680 other people in my life that are attached to me. 1210 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,840 And she tells that flat out to proud. 1211 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,880 She's like, are you OK with that? 1212 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:23,640 That's my situation and prouds like OK, so like I again, I feel 1213 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,720 like this is a young thinking versus like older thinking kind 1214 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,360 of thing. It's not wrong or bad or 1215 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,000 anything. I personally have been in this, 1216 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,920 this this situation before, like like in college. 1217 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,520 So my one, one of my college girlfriends and I went through 1218 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,360 this, OK, what men and prow are going through basically where 1219 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,520 the girl I was dating like had a very homophobic family. 1220 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,480 We live in the South, OK, South of the red states in America, if 1221 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,000 you know what that means. Very homophobic family. 1222 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:57,360 And basically we devised this whole thing to like, get her out 1223 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,600 of there and like, come live with me in this whole thing. 1224 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,920 And at the very end of it, because she's telling me she's 1225 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,880 unhappy. And like at the very end she 1226 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,120 said, no, I can't give up my family. 1227 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,240 And then, like, we broke up and like, went our separate ways. 1228 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,200 I'm like, at the time I didn't understand. 1229 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:19,200 I was like 1920 Prow's age. I was Prow's age and I didn't 1230 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,600 understand. I was proud in this scenario and 1231 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,360 I didn't fully understand. I was like, you're saying you're 1232 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,520 unhappy, you want to be out, you want to be free. 1233 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:30,880 What's the problem? And then years down the road, 1234 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:38,840 OK, my ex now is like has their family still like a decade later 1235 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,560 and is now an out Trans man has the family still. 1236 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,560 So like Min isn't wrong in this scenario for being like, you're 1237 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:51,960 asking me to give up my whole family just to like be myself, 1238 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,400 basically be be out to everybody else. 1239 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,160 That's a huge cost. And not everybody wants to make 1240 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,520 that cold Turkey cut never see them again thing. 1241 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,640 Sometimes it takes time to get them to accept you. 1242 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,400 Sometimes they'll never accept you, but sometimes they will, 1243 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,680 even though it seems like the odds are very much stacked 1244 01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,600 against you. My ex is a good example of that. 1245 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:19,520 Like, you know, so now now that I'm later on, I'm like men's 1246 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,440 age, I can see this for what it is and be more empathetic 1247 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,360 towards men. But I understand where proud is 1248 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,520 coming from because proud doesn't have a life experience 1249 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:32,240 to understand that really. And Prow it it to men's point 1250 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,200 doesn't have the familial baggage that she does. 1251 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,680 Like, I don't know, we don't really know what the 1252 01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,800 relationship with the sister is really truly like. 1253 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,840 But it doesn't seem like sister's breathing down her 1254 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,800 throat all the time because like sister didn't stand up for Prow 1255 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,880 when the husband was hitting on her or whatever. 1256 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,040 So like, it doesn't seem like it, you know what I mean? 1257 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:51,480 So. Yeah. 1258 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,600 Prow is like, what's more, I'm young. 1259 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,120 What's what's her conversation with Boom, her friend, the 1260 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,080 friends like we're young. Why should we be uncertain? 1261 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,680 We should just be who the fuck we are? 1262 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,840 We should be authentic. We should just be out. 1263 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:09,760 And that's a very young person, like limited life experience 1264 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:14,120 kind of thinking where it's like you're coming out of, you know, 1265 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,160 adolescence and childhood where it's reinforced that everything 1266 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,800 is about you because everything revolves around you because you 1267 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,840 don't have rights and people have to take care of you. 1268 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,640 And then once you're an adult where you have legal autonomy, 1269 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,240 you have to understand that you exist in the context of society 1270 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,720 and the world, and it's not just about you anymore. 1271 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,680 And so like, I think this episode was very much trying to 1272 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,040 emphasize like they're at different life stages. 1273 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,280 And so the question is, can they make it work or can't they? 1274 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,920 Like, is that like a, is that a big boundary? 1275 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,960 The ideologies they have like in their different periods of life, 1276 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,480 you know what I mean? And what I like about this is 1277 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,640 that it goes to show you that like if you want a relationship 1278 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,400 to work long term, you have to learn how to compromise. 1279 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,280 Like you have to as somebody who is in a long term relationship. 1280 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,560 Like me and my wife have been together 10 years. 1281 01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,080 It'll be 8 years later on this month. 1282 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,640 We've been married. You have to learn to compromise. 1283 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,440 It's the only way it's going to work like in long term 1284 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,840 relationships with in relationships with human beings. 1285 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,400 If you want them to last more than a few days, you have to 1286 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,040 compromise. Like you're not going to get 1287 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,040 everything you want and everything you need all the 1288 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:25,520 time. You have to meet the other 1289 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,400 person where they're at. And so I think they're 1290 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,400 demonstrating with Min and proud that they are capable of doing 1291 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,960 that because the conversation in the bedroom was that they were 1292 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,880 like, this is where I'm at, can you meet me where I'm at? 1293 01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,280 They both were saying that like it was a very adult, emotionally 1294 01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,120 intelligent, like long term relationship type of 1295 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,640 conversation that they were having. 1296 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,400 Because Min has been in a long term relationship, she knows 1297 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,440 what that's like. And so yeah, I like that about 1298 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,640 the C plot was evolved, is evolving in ways I did not 1299 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,440 expect the C plot to evolve in. And I really, again, there's a 1300 01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,640 social commentary plot, but I really like that about it. 1301 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,200 As somebody who's been in these experiences, I was like this 1302 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,840 felt very real and very relatable from like both points 1303 01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,560 of views. That's very fair. 1304 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:15,680 And I like that you enlightened us on that because that is 1305 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,479 something that I feel like people will easily, like, forget 1306 01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,120 about. Like, yeah, they have an age 1307 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:21,800 gap. We're so used to seeing that. 1308 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,399 But like, what does that really mean? 1309 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:28,359 Yeah, yeah, they, they like definitely they were with Min 1310 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,240 Prow and the parent and the family. 1311 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,040 They were definitely making a comment on generations and how 1312 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,680 generations view queer relationships. 1313 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,160 Like, yeah, it's legal now in Thailand, but not everybody's 1314 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:41,840 accepting. Just because something's legal 1315 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,200 doesn't mean everybody accepts it because they didn't grow. 1316 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,760 You know, her parents, her grandparents did not grow up in 1317 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,080 times when it was legal and and therefore normalized, you know, 1318 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,680 so their outlook's very different. 1319 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,760 So. And here's the and, and like, 1320 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:59,520 there already is somebody in Min's family that is queer. 1321 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,680 And like, I, I think it was good for Proud to also witness how 1322 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,640 they talk about the, the queer person who exists in the family 1323 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,920 now who's out and the way they talk about her. 1324 01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:13,640 You know, Simon's like, This is why I'm not saying anything like 1325 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,960 they're crazy, like they, they're going to need some time. 1326 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,200 They, they know a queer person and they're still assholes. 1327 01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:23,479 You know, though. And the way that they talked, it 1328 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:27,200 seems like they already know this about men as well. 1329 01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:29,600 They sure do, but they're not going to address it. 1330 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,080 Notice they're not directly talking about it, because if 1331 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,120 they they address it, then it's real. 1332 01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:38,760 Actually, if you go back in one of the episodes, Min is, there's 1333 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,000 a, there's a scene where Min's alone with her mom. 1334 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:46,760 I think the mom flat out asks Min, oh, are you gay now? 1335 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,800 And like, Min does not answer it does not answer the question. 1336 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,319 She's just like, God damn it, I can't get this ramen packet 1337 01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:54,279 open. What the hell? 1338 01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:55,960 That's true. Does not answer the fucking 1339 01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,200 question Mom asks, but nobody else. 1340 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,720 They're beating around the Bush. I think they're all suspicious. 1341 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,280 I think uncle puts it together and that's why he's like, we're 1342 01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,160 not going to have any heirs in this family to carry on the 1343 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,240 family line, which again, you're middle class at best, like. 1344 01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:14,440 I think mom is the most accepting, which is why she's 1345 01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:17,560 the one to ask her directly about it. 1346 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,160 I don't know if accepting's the right word, but like mom is like 1347 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,760 the most is going to be the most nurturing. 1348 01:10:27,480 --> 01:10:29,280 But again, mom still does not stand up to the rest of the 1349 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,560 family. Like but like, why is it on mom? 1350 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,360 Everybody should be, you know. Anyway, why is it always on the 1351 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:40,840 women to fix everything? I just mean, like, I think yeah, 1352 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:45,480 she's just doesn't want to. She wouldn't say it in front of 1353 01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:48,720 people, but like behind closed doors when it's just the two of 1354 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,160 them, like she would be more open to her. 1355 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:55,520 Potentially, Yeah, actually. Oh, yeah. 1356 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,640 C plot got real interesting this episode. 1357 01:11:05,260 --> 01:11:08,780 All right, Anything you'd like to talk about, Prowerman? 1358 01:11:12,740 --> 01:11:14,180 No, I think that's all I had for them. 1359 01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:16,940 All right, is there anything else you want to talk about Prim 1360 01:11:16,940 --> 01:11:19,620 and Bambi the a plot before we like? 1361 01:11:20,460 --> 01:11:23,660 No, the only note I had for them was that Prim is not blind or 1362 01:11:23,660 --> 01:11:29,600 stupid. Is just the worst hair is just 1363 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,080 the worst. Oh God, she's the worst. 1364 01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,080 Also Hurst. What? 1365 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:40,640 Why would you OK when they're Oh my God, I'm sorry. 1366 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,040 I just have to when they're when they're in the club. 1367 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,840 Hey, you know Crystal serenaded in the room and Bambi texts her 1368 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,120 text me when he get home. So then Prim's like I'll take a 1369 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,640 photo. Why is Arie in the photo? 1370 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,480 Prim OK, I. I have a question because why is 1371 01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:01,640 she fully in that photo then? But then she's randomly cropped 1372 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,360 out on Bambi's phone? Did Prim. 1373 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,080 Crop her out. Yeah, like did, but like, not 1374 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,800 effectively, because like she wanted. 1375 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,480 Him to be jealous. I think she wants Bambi to be 1376 01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:13,320 jealous. I agree with you. 1377 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:18,920 I think she's baiting Bambi. Do you think Prim, I think 1378 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:22,920 Prim's upset, Loki, that Bambi had a girlfriend when they broke 1379 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,600 up and has not told her? You think Prim's like upset 1380 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,200 about that? Oh yeah, probably right. 1381 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,200 I think she's a little upset about that. 1382 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,160 And it's like, again, not going to confront it. 1383 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,720 So she's doing stupid shit maybe. 1384 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,200 Yeah, I'll be like I can get another girl too. 1385 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:44,640 I can get many at my SY. Keep employing people who are in 1386 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,720 love with me also. OK, sorry for the part. 1387 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:53,160 I like how this episode essentially opens with Lady Bird 1388 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,720 hiring more queer women 'cause they were they didn't have 1389 01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,840 enough. So they're like, we hired Arie 1390 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,240 and also Bipors here. So many queer. 1391 01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:04,280 It's just queer women that work in this fucking studio. 1392 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,520 We need more. We don't have enough. 1393 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:07,880 This makes me. Laugh. 1394 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,320 I love that bipor is there 'cause. 1395 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,480 Now we love that Bipor is there. This is really how cute. 1396 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,680 I forgot. Yes, no, she's just adorable. 1397 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,480 And I forgot to say this earlier, I just love the scene 1398 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,120 where her and Goria are bonding over that. 1399 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,360 The fact that they liked someone who's older than them in school, 1400 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,120 that was just so adorable. She's like. 1401 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:33,160 That sounds familiar. I like, I like when Perma's 1402 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,000 introducing her and she's like, you can scold her, it's fine. 1403 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,480 And then she's like, hi everyone, you can scold me, but 1404 01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:42,280 be real nice about it because my heart's like a little bit and 1405 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:43,280 she's just a little bit of heart. 1406 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,480 So cute. Like, how could you be mad at 1407 01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:47,400 her? She's so cute. 1408 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,480 She's the cutest thing. She's the cutest thing. 1409 01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:56,160 I love her so much. I love her so much, my boy. 1410 01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:01,000 I love you to death. OK, All right, so the B plot, 1411 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,920 which is the Sasha Goria plot, let's say that was that was the 1412 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:07,440 plot this episode. Couple of things we learned from 1413 01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:08,840 this episode that I think were interesting. 1414 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,440 Sticking with Bipor for a second, when Bipor goes and 1415 01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:17,720 talks to Sasha and is like basically apologizing for the 1416 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,200 past and then it gets real cute and is like maybe don't smile at 1417 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,960 women because they'll fall in love with you. 1418 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:28,040 In that conversation she says if you have a girlfriend, don't 1419 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,840 smile at other, implying that Sasha was probably dating 1420 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,640 Crystal at the time that whole thing went down. 1421 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:40,600 So that's interesting. So wonder if we'll get more of 1422 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,960 that later with Crystal. Interesting. 1423 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:45,600 And the next episode. So that was interesting. 1424 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,120 So I've had a girlfriend at the time, which again puts more 1425 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:53,840 context into the whole like this was A1 sided crush because Tasha 1426 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,360 girlfriend and anyway, Bipor is a baby. 1427 01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:58,560 She doesn't know what's going on. 1428 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,200 But but look at the emotional intelligence of Bipor to be 1429 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,680 like, I'm sorry, like this was all on me and I realize that 1430 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:04,680 now. I'm sorry. 1431 01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:10,600 Yeah, sometimes all the feelings are just in our head and not how 1432 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,520 the other person's actually like coming on. 1433 01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:17,800 Yeah, and like when feelings are involved, it's not always. 1434 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,640 It's not easy to see that sometimes. 1435 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:23,480 OK, actually, that's an amazing segue to something. 1436 01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:28,280 I'm reading a book right now called Bury Our Bones in the 1437 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,760 Midnight Soil, which is written by VE Schwab, who wrote the 1438 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,320 short story that inspired Frisco. 1439 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:42,440 And this is a lesbian vampire story about toxic relationships. 1440 01:15:42,440 --> 01:15:45,800 OK, and I got to this part. I'm in the part of the book 1441 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,680 where they're one of the characters is like explaining in 1442 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,840 graphic detail the toxic fucking toxic relationship she was in 1443 01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:58,000 for centuries. OK, Because vampires and some of 1444 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,240 those interesting and relevant to girls. 1445 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,240 So why does she stay? Meaning, why does she stay in 1446 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,440 the toxic relationship? That's like asking why stay 1447 01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:09,920 inside a house on fire. Easy to say when you're standing 1448 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,840 on the street, a safe distance from the flames. 1449 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,760 Harder when you are still inside, convinced you can douse 1450 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,680 the blaze before it spreads. Or rushing room to room trying 1451 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,720 to say what you love before it burns. 1452 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,760 So that's beautiful. The point is, like, we can sit 1453 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,200 here and judge these characters all we want because we're on the 1454 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,920 street watching the house fire. We are not in the house trying 1455 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:39,080 to save the shit we love and trying to, you know, throw water 1456 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,920 on it. Yeah. 1457 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,440 I just thought that was relevant. 1458 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:50,120 Kind of goes back to the again. It's easier to be on the outside 1459 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:54,720 like with Prim giving advice and then not taking it herself 1460 01:16:54,720 --> 01:17:00,360 because she's involved in it. A. 100% or the other side of 1461 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,480 that too is it's very easy as Prim to look at this the the 1462 01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:08,840 Sasha by poor situation and be very biased in how we look at 1463 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,720 that because we're emotionally attached to our sister and not 1464 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,520 look at Sasha objectively and be like Sasha. 1465 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,320 I had a girlfriend at the time. I was being nice. 1466 01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:20,040 You know you're nice to all your Co workers, you're nice. 1467 01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:24,160 Prim, same thing again. Prim sees herself and Sasha and 1468 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,360 hates it. That's what it is. 1469 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:27,360 That's why she hates her so much. 1470 01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:36,080 All right, OK, so Sasha, Goria. I love them. 1471 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,600 Can I just. I just love them. 1472 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,560 I just love them so much. I love them so much. 1473 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:46,120 I love the way Goria was completely emotionally unguarded 1474 01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,440 with Sasha for most of this episode. 1475 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:54,640 Like, she comes in when Sasha's drunk off her ass in the 1476 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,280 beginning of the episode and, like, gets her to the photo 1477 01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:58,280 shoot. First of all, I love the 1478 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,760 conversation where she's like, Sasha, we got to go, like, what? 1479 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,560 She's like, what is this? Did you bathe in whine? 1480 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,920 Like, what happened to you? And Sasha's like, can you please 1481 01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,840 cancel it? Just, it doesn't matter why? 1482 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,520 Just cancel it. I am not up for this. 1483 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,200 And then Sasha's like, Gory's like, we can't cancel this. 1484 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,680 If you cancel it, all the crew get fucked over. 1485 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,000 Like, yeah, I love that line. I thought you'd appreciate that 1486 01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,080 line. Yeah, no, I love that. 1487 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,480 I was like, yeah, there's a lot more people. 1488 01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:24,880 There's budget, first of all, and then there's all these 1489 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,920 people who are showing up right now who are there before you 1490 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,560 because their call times are earlier. 1491 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,200 They're already there, like setting their shut up. 1492 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:32,360 They're. Already there. 1493 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:36,480 Yeah, they have. They get treated less well than 1494 01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:40,360 you do. And then to just be like, oh, we 1495 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,640 have to extend production now, which they're a lot of these 1496 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,880 jobs are freelance where they go from job to job. 1497 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,320 So now that that's pushing another job back, like this is 1498 01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,440 literally screwing over so many people. 1499 01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,480 Right. So don't get your ass up. 1500 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,480 I love. That Corey is not having that 1501 01:18:56,480 --> 01:19:00,600 she's like, yeah, we're going like, no, she's like go wash the 1502 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:05,440 wine off of you. We're leaving but later then we 1503 01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:08,760 go through the photo shoot, OK. And they're making eyes at one 1504 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,720 point because we can't stop flirting ever. 1505 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,680 And then when the photo shoots like over or like that part is 1506 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,320 over and they're setting up the next one rather Sasha's 1507 01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,520 backstage like laying on the couch and Goria tries to bring 1508 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,280 her food. And then Goria asks like why are 1509 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,520 why are you so drunk? Like what's wrong? 1510 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,880 Like she like she says she notices she's like this is not 1511 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,160 normal for you. Like I know you party and shit, 1512 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,160 but like this is not normal. Like what's wrong? 1513 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:38,720 And she tries to like engage with Sasha over it in good 1514 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,760 faith, not to be an asshole about it. 1515 01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,040 She's just like I noticed you seem off. 1516 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,640 So I appreciate that Goria, like, did that because nobody's 1517 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,600 looking out for Sasha because, like, she doesn't have anybody. 1518 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:51,760 Like, Aunt was looking out, like, ends up looking out for 1519 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,000 her later. But like, she got home by 1520 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,960 herself. Like, she was just by herself by 1521 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:59,160 her room was a wreck. I'm like, what were you doing by 1522 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,680 yourself in this apartment? Like there's like tissues 1523 01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,560 everywhere. There's bottles of wine all over 1524 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:05,960 the place. Like she's not OK. 1525 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,960 And so I appreciate that Goria, like, noticed that and was like, 1526 01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,640 what's wrong? Like, tell me. 1527 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,920 But Sasha wouldn't engage with her so. 1528 01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,040 Then Goria is like, OK, you don't want to talk about this or 1529 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,280 whatever. So then she gives her the little 1530 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,520 like eye mask to like sleep in between. 1531 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:27,040 That was the fucking cutest thing ever. 1532 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,800 And like it's way too cute and sweet that she already had that. 1533 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,640 So she like brought it knowing that like thinking she would 1534 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,920 need it, which was adorable. I love it. 1535 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,720 Goria did that. She like took the time to like 1536 01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,920 make her a little face mask. It was like so. 1537 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,680 Cute. Yeah, she definitely can 1538 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,920 anticipate her needs and she's truly on her side. 1539 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:54,400 And yeah, she's just, she's a, she did a great job being her 1540 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:59,120 manager. So like she did, it had to take 1541 01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:03,240 a lot for Sasha to be like, no, I actually don't want you to be 1542 01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,000 my manager anymore. Because like she had to be like, 1543 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,840 oh, you're being, you're nagging me like a mother. 1544 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:13,000 Like, OK, I can use that to cut this off right now. 1545 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,240 Like that's the only. She's lucky that she got that 1546 01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,640 opening because she was doing a great job. 1547 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,680 No, Gloria was killing it. And that's I think what made it 1548 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:28,080 harder for Sasha, because Sasha puts on that, that facade, you 1549 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,200 know that. And Goria knows the facade. 1550 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,520 And that's why she's always telling her, like, you put up 1551 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:34,800 fronts. Like I know when you're doing 1552 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,760 like, that's what I mean. I, I knew in this episode they 1553 01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:38,480 were going to be at the stage where like they knew each other 1554 01:21:38,480 --> 01:21:41,080 well enough to be like, you're full of shit right now, but I 1555 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:42,360 don't know why you're pushing this. 1556 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:46,640 And like, Goria just got fed up. Like, but if you notice in that 1557 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:51,960 conversation when like Sasha's trying to fire her, she's at one 1558 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,680 point she's holding the mask. And then Goria asked, did I do 1559 01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:59,760 something wrong? And Sasha like has to put the 1560 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,160 mask down because like, no, Goria did everything right. 1561 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,560 And like, here's this tangible proof of like how much Goria 1562 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,480 cares and how good she is at taking care of Sasha, which is 1563 01:22:07,480 --> 01:22:09,360 Latasha wanted. And then she's like, I have to 1564 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,440 give this up because my ex manager's an asshole predator. 1565 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,120 And then she like puts the thing. 1566 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,640 She can't even hold the thing anymore because it was so sweet 1567 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,960 what Goria did. And then she has to like be be 1568 01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:21,880 like the diva that everybody thinks she is. 1569 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:26,000 She goes back into that as the you know, the front right, and 1570 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,760 at some point Gary gets pissed off enough to where she's like 1571 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,560 This is why you don't have friends like this attitude right 1572 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:32,760 here. You're going to cancel this. 1573 01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,720 The fuck the crew over like This is why people don't like you. 1574 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,080 I'm leaving and then she'll leave and like poor Sasha, poor 1575 01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,880 Sasha, she's like who's already like I feel so alone and like 1576 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,360 that was so crushing to like have to hear that from like the 1577 01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,400 one person who was like a friend and then. 1578 01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:51,440 Yeah. What an impossible. 1579 01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:54,040 And watching her walk away. Yes, what is she? 1580 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,720 And then have the mask still the thing that shows that Goria 1581 01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:03,360 cares. Like I feel so bad for some like 1582 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:07,240 poor like poor Sasha, poor Sasha, poor Sasha, poor Sasha. 1583 01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,360 I just want the best for her. I do want the best for her, but 1584 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,720 I think she's gonna have to deal with some angst because Crystal 1585 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,520 enters the chat. Mm hmm. 1586 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:23,120 Crystal enters the chat in a huge way and is like Oh my God 1587 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,240 this was hilarious first of all. Then we're at the then we go to 1588 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:29,480 Blossom later, which I love and she's up there talking about 1589 01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:32,000 women with Crystal. So like these two idiots are 1590 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,200 still like, Oh my God, they're funny, They're friends and their 1591 01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:36,560 friendship is actually really interesting. 1592 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,880 I like their friendship because it shows me that like exes can 1593 01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,360 be friends and like have nothing between them like anymore. 1594 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,560 And like you can be actually be friends with your ex in a 1595 01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:46,160 healthy way, not in a prim and Bambi way, but in like an actual 1596 01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:50,800 in like an actual healthy way. It's going to get toxic and 1597 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,160 because they're going to fight over the same girl. 1598 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,320 But like, you can be friends with your ex. 1599 01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:57,680 Yeah. So anyway, so they're talking 1600 01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,800 about women. And then Goria, I love how she's 1601 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,560 the center of a town. First of all, she deserves to 1602 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:02,800 be. Goria deserves to be. 1603 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,360 She deserves all this. She comes in, and if you notice 1604 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:10,440 when Goria enters the blossom, she's looking up at the balcony 1605 01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:12,720 when she first walks in because that's where Sasha's usually 1606 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:14,280 hanging out. So she looks for Sasha 1607 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,240 immediately when she enters. And then she comes in and hangs 1608 01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:18,680 out with her, like stylist friend. 1609 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,920 And then Crystal and Sasha end up having the conversation where 1610 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,080 Crystal's like, did you guys break up? 1611 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,720 It's actually like, we were never together so we can't break 1612 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:29,680 up. So that's true. 1613 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,680 And then it's true. She's like, OK, so the like you 1614 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,040 still into her or whatever, don't lie. 1615 01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:35,560 I can see it in your fucking eyes. 1616 01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,800 Crystal says this and then Sasha lies 10 times and she's like, I 1617 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,200 believe you now. I was like, because she's like, 1618 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:43,760 I can tell if you're lying to me if you're still into her. 1619 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,280 And then Sasha's like, oh, no, I'm. 1620 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,080 It was fleeting. I'm not into her anymore. 1621 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:52,000 I'm like, you can't. I feel like I feel like this 1622 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:57,560 whole thing is still set up. I I still I don't yeah, I I 1623 01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,120 think she sees and she's like, this girl needs to get. 1624 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,360 I hope so. Something needs to kick her in 1625 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,920 the. Ass So I think it's just her 1626 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:10,400 trying to make her jealous. If I was Crystal, I would also 1627 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,880 be into Gloria, so I don't. I mean it could be real like 1628 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,080 it's could you? I mean, it could. 1629 01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:15,760 Be both. It could be like, well, hey, if 1630 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,760 she's not going to go for this, then I'm going for. 1631 01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,400 It I'm getting it like I'm going to get that. 1632 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,440 I mean, OK, so you're OK. So you're of the of the theory 1633 01:25:24,440 --> 01:25:27,400 that Crystal is trying to do this because she's looking out 1634 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:31,360 for Sasha? Yeah, either that or like or 1635 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,840 like part of it's probably like. Well, OK, if you're going to let 1636 01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:39,360 this beautiful woman go, then fine, I will take her. 1637 01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,320 Someone. Should, but I feel like she does 1638 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,720 see through it like because you can't look at her and like see 1639 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,600 her her she broke when she asked her this. 1640 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:56,480 Oh yeah. So I I think she knows what if. 1641 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,120 Crystal and Bambi are in on this together. 1642 01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:04,520 I feel like Bambi would also be like these fucking idiots. 1643 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,160 They just want to knock their heads together. 1644 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,200 I want my best again. She's the rider die friend. 1645 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,800 She's like my best friend needs to be fucking happy and get the 1646 01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:13,080 woman of her dreams. Crystal, get in here. 1647 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,000 We're going to set this up. It'd be really funny if later 1648 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,080 that gets revealed. Bammy's that friend. 1649 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,480 That's what I'm saying. Bammy's that friend. 1650 01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:23,720 She would do extreme shit just to make you happy. 1651 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,480 She would spend all the money in the world. 1652 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,280 Just to make that happen too. She's like you're my friend. 1653 01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,960 Let's burn this bitch to the ground to make you like that's 1654 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,320 Bambi. That'd be really funny. 1655 01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:36,960 Well, actually that come true. I would love that. 1656 01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:41,520 But anyway, regardless, Crystal is like OK, well, if you don't 1657 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,200 want that hot hot woman over there, hot redhead. 1658 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:50,880 I want to go get her watch me and then proceeds to serenade 1659 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:55,440 the crowd at blah, which like I where can I go to this gay bar? 1660 01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:58,680 Because like you've got like these amazing queer artists that 1661 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,560 come in and just do acoustics for free. 1662 01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:06,400 You know what I mean? Like any excuse to have Emmy 1663 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,120 singing period. That was. 1664 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:09,160 Lovely. Yeah, I think that's really what 1665 01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:10,960 it was. I don't blame them. 1666 01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,960 OK, so then she comes in and starts singing and then uses 1667 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:20,880 that as an excuse to get Goria near her, which I love when 1668 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,960 she's like shout out to my, the heroine in my music video. 1669 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:25,640 And it cuts to Goria and her friend. 1670 01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,600 And I know that Goria's friend is like pushes Goria on stage, 1671 01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,840 pushes her on stage, that she could have met Sasha, who's also 1672 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,520 there. But no, the friend is like, it's 1673 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:36,560 you. And she pushes Goria on stage. 1674 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,480 And then they kind of, I don't know, man. 1675 01:27:39,480 --> 01:27:41,880 They kind of have a moment where like Goria's kind of like 1676 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,440 enchanted, shall we say? Because how could you not be? 1677 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,680 Crystal is singing to you. Yeah, How could you not be? 1678 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,680 She's singing with you. She gave her the mutt like that. 1679 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,520 That was expert level flirting. That's what I'm saying. 1680 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,160 And it's irresistible flirting. Go watch us the series. 1681 01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:00,480 Just. That's her move. 1682 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,720 That's her move. And it's expert level move. 1683 01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,880 OK. So like, that's going to develop 1684 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,920 in the next episode. So that, like, sets Sasha off on 1685 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,680 her binge drinking. It gets worse throughout, like 1686 01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:19,040 the fucking whole thing and then by the end, so then we went 1687 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,200 already went over the ants saving her, her with Goria. 1688 01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,240 One thing I want to say about her with Goria when they're in 1689 01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:31,120 ants apartment talking is that Goria initiates all of the 1690 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:36,080 physical contact in that scene. If you notice that like Gori is 1691 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:40,760 very unguarded when Sasha's at her like lowest low because she 1692 01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,800 tells her in that's like be week just for a day. 1693 01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,920 So she knows all the fronts that Sasha puts up to like make 1694 01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,760 herself seem like she's invincible, like she's powerful. 1695 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:53,400 Like no one can say no to me. Like like she said to her like 1696 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,880 other friend, like Sasha said to her friend in like 1 of the 1697 01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,160 episodes. Gosh, it's like Gory knows 1698 01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,240 that's all like pretend. And so she's telling her like 1699 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:02,320 you don't have to pretend right now. 1700 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,280 Like I'm I'm literally here just for you. 1701 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,240 Like cries, just cry today. Be weak just for today. 1702 01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,400 And like, we'll pick things up and be strong tomorrow. 1703 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,400 But like you deserve to grieve and feel whatever you're 1704 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,600 feeling. And during that, like Goria does 1705 01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,360 things where she like touches Sasha's shoulder. 1706 01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,760 She like wipes her tears. Goria is the one that pulls 1707 01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,440 Sasha into a hug. Like, Goria does all of that, 1708 01:29:22,440 --> 01:29:26,480 like emotional support stuff that Sasha needs. 1709 01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:30,280 And like, that alone speaks volumes. 1710 01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:32,520 But then in that conversation, she also says the words you're 1711 01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,320 like, you're not alone. It's like, I feel like that was 1712 01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:39,640 a very validating scene for Sasha. 1713 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,240 And like Goria, like both of them, you know what I mean? 1714 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:48,360 Yeah, it's just shows how closer, how much closer they're 1715 01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:55,120 getting that Goria is the one who's willing to initiate it. 1716 01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,000 Yeah, right. It says a lot about work, 1717 01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:59,720 Goria's headspace, like you said. 1718 01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:03,680 Yeah, she was, as she was emotionally unguarded when Sasha 1719 01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,840 was very emotionally unguarded and was like, it's OK to stay 1720 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,440 unguarded with me, with me right now, right? 1721 01:30:10,440 --> 01:30:13,160 Which is monumental. And then you get to the very end 1722 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:18,240 of the episode where they're at Goria's place on the balcony, I 1723 01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,800 think is where they are. And they're just like chilling 1724 01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,360 and having beer and celebrating the win. 1725 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,440 And that's when Goria's like social justice warrior side 1726 01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:29,840 comes out and she's like, that shit fires me up. 1727 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:33,280 And like, it's so funny. She's like, she's like, I'm 1728 01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:34,760 fighting the man and that kind of stuff. 1729 01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:36,760 Like I love, I do not love Goria. 1730 01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:41,240 Gori's fucking cool as shit. I love her. 1731 01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:46,000 She's so great. But also like in that scene, 1732 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:50,800 she's the one who invites my God, Sasha. 1733 01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,760 Sorry, momentary lapse in names. It's dairy. 1734 01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:59,120 Forget Sasha 's name, she's the one who invites her to sleep 1735 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:04,720 over. And this time Sasha's like no. 1736 01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,480 And she like, she kind of wants to do it right, I feel like. 1737 01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:14,000 And she's like, sometimes just having a beer and talking is 1738 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:18,200 good enough and like doesn't stay over. 1739 01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:21,880 And I just love that for her because she's like, I want this 1740 01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,880 to be real, not just like a typical thing that she does, 1741 01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,240 which is just sleeping with someone at night. 1742 01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:34,480 So it shows that Corey is willing to have this 1743 01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:40,560 relationship and so is Shasha because she does. 1744 01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,280 She wants to. This is the first time she 1745 01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:47,680 really wants to do it right. It's it's very indicative of 1746 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,320 many things. And you're absolutely correct. 1747 01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:55,280 So in that conversation, Gloria basically shows her hand, which 1748 01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:58,880 Goria doesn't do. Like consciously she does, but 1749 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:02,120 she doesn't mean to. She willingly shows her hand in 1750 01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,880 multiple ways. So Sasha like when it starts, 1751 01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,360 when Sasha like does the let me touch your mouth thing And then 1752 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,920 Goria, what does Goria do? Goria just like walks away, 1753 01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,440 which was weird since Sasha's like OK, I guess I shouldn't 1754 01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:14,400 have done that. Whatever. 1755 01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,640 And she, like, looks out. And then Goria comes back with a 1756 01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:18,880 T-shirt. I remember Sasha asked her for 1757 01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,040 it. And she's like, here I got the 1758 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,080 thing showing that, like, like, I remembered this thing that you 1759 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,280 asked me to do and I, like, did it right. 1760 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:29,440 So showing you she cares then was so smooth as fuck where 1761 01:32:29,440 --> 01:32:33,200 she's like, I mean, you have clothes, you might as well stay 1762 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,280 over. Yeah, smooth as fuck. 1763 01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,640 And Sasha's like, OK, so you're the one asking me to stay over 1764 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:42,880 now. And then Gloria says like, why 1765 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:47,840 pretend admitting that? Like every time she's like most 1766 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,880 of the time when she says no and she's putting up front, she's 1767 01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:52,800 pretending she doesn't want to be with Sasha. 1768 01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,600 But so that was revealed. And that's when if you lingers 1769 01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,720 on Sasha and like clicks for her, she's like, this is not one 1770 01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:02,720 sided because like the entire time for Sasha, she's like 1771 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,560 Angora in a way. They're both like, is this one 1772 01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:09,480 sided or it like, are you using me and I'm using you or is this 1773 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:11,720 real? And so for Sasha it clicks. 1774 01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:16,120 Oh, this is not one sided like and to your point, then she does 1775 01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:19,000 the thing where she's like she first of all, then she goes to 1776 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:23,000 kiss her and Gory is the one that leans into the most to like 1777 01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,000 make the kiss happen. So it's mutual. 1778 01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:30,720 And then is the one, to your point, who's like she says, I 1779 01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:36,640 want to stay over. I do, but I think not tonight. 1780 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,080 She's like, I think tonight needs to end. 1781 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,920 Like this. This feels right is what she 1782 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:42,400 says. This feels right that if we 1783 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:47,480 don't and I just kiss you and then she like is like maybe some 1784 01:33:47,480 --> 01:33:50,400 other time and like goes home and then it lingers on Goria. 1785 01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:53,680 And so like Goria kind of feels, I feel like Goria feels a little 1786 01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:57,240 rejected because she put herself out there finally with Sasha and 1787 01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,680 is like and so but like so I feel like some of what Sasha is 1788 01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:04,600 saying might get missed because Gori is being might be a little 1789 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:09,640 triggered by all the rejection in her life because she finally 1790 01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,080 put herself out there and like kind of got rejected in a way. 1791 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:16,040 And so I feel like that's going to play into the next episode a 1792 01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,160 little bit. But I am, I'm to your point, I'm 1793 01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:20,560 very proud of Sasha because Sasha, I think was trying to 1794 01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:24,600 show like, you mean more to me than just like this is not a 1795 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,280 casual thing without saying those words. 1796 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. 1797 01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:37,240 And for girls, whoever is doing the soundtrack, the scoring of 1798 01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:41,080 the show, you deserve all the awards because like, that song 1799 01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:44,480 that ends on them was utter perfection. 1800 01:34:44,480 --> 01:34:47,720 Like oh God, it's so good. Yeah, it was a great song. 1801 01:34:48,440 --> 01:34:51,840 All the songs are good but that one was beautiful. 1802 01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:58,160 OK I only have one more question about this episode before we I 1803 01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,960 guess transition to like what's the previews and stuff is. 1804 01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:05,160 And now that I'm thinking about this shit, now that we have the 1805 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:12,000 context of Sasha's trauma, where did Wansen get the blackmail 1806 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,280 photo from? How did she get that? 1807 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,640 And the other episode where she blackmails her, she shows her 1808 01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,200 the photo was what that dude took. 1809 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,520 How'd you get that? How'd you get that? 1810 01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:30,320 I think they might have worked together in that episode. 1811 01:35:30,440 --> 01:35:34,400 Not episode, but like that time. So like she knew exactly what he 1812 01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,000 was about to do. So he's. 1813 01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:40,440 Older straight up. Yeah, I wonder if she knew then 1814 01:35:40,440 --> 01:35:43,200 and got it then and was like, I'll keep this just in case or 1815 01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,680 if she like is still buddy buddy with him and is like, can I have 1816 01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,800 that? So that shows you how fucked up 1817 01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:52,200 she is that she knew he had it and went and got it. 1818 01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,480 It had have been that second one because she didn't play it right 1819 01:35:55,480 --> 01:35:57,400 away. It took her a little while. 1820 01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,720 So I think she got to him, even if they weren't like close right 1821 01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:06,040 now, she had a way to contact him and was just like, hey, I 1822 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,920 need to take someone down. That's fucked up that she knew 1823 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,560 that. So the mean meaning, she knew 1824 01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:13,360 some fuck shit was going to happen back there. 1825 01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:14,720 That's how she got and she got it. 1826 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:16,560 She, I agree with you. I don't think she had it right 1827 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,920 away, but she got it pretty quickly because it's like later 1828 01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:21,800 there was like 24 hours she had it. 1829 01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,680 Yeah, that's real fast if she didn't know that existed. 1830 01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,920 So that's so fucked. Up and the fact that that still 1831 01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:39,160 exists. Also that just show you how 1832 01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:41,000 gross all these fucking people are. 1833 01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,920 Oh they're so gross. She deserves to get arrested. 1834 01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:48,920 They all need to get arrested. Yeah, expose him. 1835 01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,800 Right, expose him. I hope he was also getting the 1836 01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,280 subpoena. Not just once. 1837 01:36:54,440 --> 01:36:57,520 Yeah, probably not because the men always get away with it, but 1838 01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,560 still. Like fuck. 1839 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:04,160 Like God damn. OK, I. 1840 01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:06,640 Tried to throw that out there because I was just like, 1841 01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,880 interesting. You got a hold of this? 1842 01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:12,880 Yeah. I didn't even think of that. 1843 01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,720 Yeah, it's fucked up. All right. 1844 01:37:16,440 --> 01:37:19,640 I already jumped into previews, predictions. 1845 01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:21,840 All right, start us off what you got. 1846 01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:27,160 All right. So I basically summarized each 1847 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,840 storyline that we see. Got it. 1848 01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,160 So the first one and we're seeing is men being told that 1849 01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,120 she can only have Prim as a friend who's into girls. 1850 01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,640 And it was Prow saying that. I was proud. 1851 01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,480 I couldn't tell who was saying that. 1852 01:37:41,480 --> 01:37:47,720 Prow, well it's men, was saying it, and then the response is the 1853 01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,160 line after that is from Prow, who is basically saying the way 1854 01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:54,920 things work in queer lady world is whenever there's a new woman, 1855 01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,760 because everything's incestuous and we're a small community, 1856 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,120 when somebody new shows up, they're the hot new item and 1857 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:06,080 everybody has to have them. Interesting. 1858 01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,800 Do you want to go see all of them or start with that? 1859 01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,120 Talk about it. No, I'll go. 1860 01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:16,120 I'll go through it real quick. Arie still being a home wrecker 1861 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,520 and getting in between Prim and Bambi 100%. 1862 01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:23,600 Prim still isn't doing anything about Arie's advances and I I 1863 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,800 have a whole thing about them, thank God. 1864 01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,240 That's the one that pisses me. Off so I'm going to skip the 1865 01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:31,360 rest about Prim and Bambi and Airy. 1866 01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:35,440 And then Shasha is trying to make Gory her exclusive stylist, 1867 01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:38,320 which I think is. Code for girlfriend. 1868 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,760 It is because Crystal is making moves. 1869 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,800 Yeah, yeah, 100%. And then gory at the end is 1870 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,840 like, you know, being able to choose is kind of fun. 1871 01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:49,680 All right, so which plot line do you want to start with? 1872 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,720 Do you want to start with a plot, B plot, or C plot? 1873 01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,200 Let's do a plot. All right, get in the A plot 1874 01:38:56,200 --> 01:39:01,040 perman Bambi and Aries. So my prediction between all the 1875 01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:05,400 scenes that we've got of them is that I assume, because what we 1876 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,840 didn't talk about is that at the conference thing. 1877 01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:09,960 Shit, yeah, we forgot to talk about this. 1878 01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:11,320 Let's talk about. This for a while. 1879 01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:15,400 Bambi's. Yeah, Bambi's puts her purse 1880 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,040 down. We see something fall out and 1881 01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:21,040 then later reveals that a bottle of pills also fill out that. 1882 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:26,480 Conveniently, Arie found and put her foot over so Bambi didn't 1883 01:39:26,480 --> 01:39:30,040 know that she dropped that. All right, you want me to talk 1884 01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,440 about the pills? Because I can. 1885 01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:36,600 Yes you can. OK, so Bambi has a prescription 1886 01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,800 for alprazolam or Xanax and basically it's a drug. 1887 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:45,640 She gets 100 milligram tablets and it is used for anxiety, 1888 01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,920 which is not shocking, which is like I thought she was on worst 1889 01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:54,120 drugs to be honest, like more severe drugs than that. 1890 01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:59,120 And I was looking into it and I was like, cuz I, for those that 1891 01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:02,000 don't know, I am a licensed pharmacist in America. 1892 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,960 So this is actually something I know a lot about. 1893 01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:08,960 So I was looking at the bottle and I was like, OK, the bottle's 1894 01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,640 in English because baby just came from overseas. 1895 01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,360 So I my brain was like, who is prescribing this? 1896 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:19,400 Because I looked it up and in Thailand it's a, it's a second 1897 01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:23,760 tier controlled substance, which to my understanding means like 1898 01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,080 in Thailand specifically, you can only get a 30 day supply of 1899 01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:28,640 it at a time. So somebody has to keep 1900 01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:33,440 prescribing it. So I was like, OK, well, she's 1901 01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:36,720 not, it's in English. Like did she get it overseas? 1902 01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:39,280 Can they prescribe English labels in Thailand? 1903 01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:43,040 Turns out in Thailand you can get prescriptions like in 1904 01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,640 English, like on the pill bottle because like there's laws about 1905 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:49,400 like what can be on, on the prescription bottle, like all 1906 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,840 kinds of, there's all kinds of stuff that like legally has to 1907 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:53,960 can or cannot be on this thing. So I was like, if you're in 1908 01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,000 Thailand, it doesn't have to be in the native Thai language. 1909 01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:57,240 Like can it be in another language? 1910 01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,360 Turns out you can't get prescriptions in English. 1911 01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:02,560 So it's possible. Baby went to see the therapist 1912 01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:04,240 to get her Xanax. That's my thought. 1913 01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:05,240 That's what I think is happening. 1914 01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:06,840 And then she, I've seen the therapist to get the pills 1915 01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:10,440 because apparently you're going to get 30 days of time, which is 1916 01:41:10,440 --> 01:41:15,160 different than in America. But during the episode when Arie 1917 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,960 takes the bottle, you see her like looking at it and then like 1918 01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:20,840 typing on her phone and look shocked. 1919 01:41:22,440 --> 01:41:24,280 And I'm like, are you Googling what Xanax is? 1920 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,960 Because like, that's not shocking, honestly. 1921 01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,240 But I think it's the mental health issue part of it because 1922 01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,840 like that's there's a stigma on there. 1923 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,680 Is it and maybe in Thailand there's a stigma for anxiety? 1924 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:38,200 I feel like every human has anxiety. 1925 01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:42,080 Is that really maybe in Thailand, maybe that's what this 1926 01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:43,360 is and they're like, you have mental. 1927 01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:46,880 I was like, of all the things wrong with Bambi, like like 1928 01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,720 anxiety is like the lowest thing. 1929 01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,880 You know what I mean? I thought she'd be on worst 1930 01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,960 drugs like the show that she's more unstable than just having 1931 01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,040 anxiety. Yeah. 1932 01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:00,760 I that was surprising to me. I'm like, this is shocking. 1933 01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,400 This is actually not shocking. But I'm also wondering where 1934 01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:07,720 they're going to go with that because I think my go. 1935 01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:09,720 Go go. You go, you go. 1936 01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:11,320 I have thought so like my. Read on. 1937 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:16,880 This is that I assume Arie tells Prim about the drugs, which is 1938 01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:21,280 now Xanax, and then Prim confronts Bambi about it. 1939 01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:24,360 And this is when we get the Bambi scene where she reacts 1940 01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:28,880 badly and is lashing out, saying you still believe her. 1941 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:34,000 Like she's proven that she can't be trusted and all that. 1942 01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:41,200 And then so like I think that that's how that sequence goes. 1943 01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,520 And so then, well, now it's not that bad of a drug. 1944 01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:45,680 So I don't know what's going on that's. 1945 01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:47,480 Where I'm confused. I don't think that's the full 1946 01:42:47,480 --> 01:42:49,480 story, to be honest with you. Yeah, because I was like, this 1947 01:42:49,480 --> 01:42:51,080 is Xanax. Like this is not a big maybe. 1948 01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:54,640 It's just like maybe she gets a hold of like worse drugs because 1949 01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:59,440 I feel like Prim finds Bambi after using drugs or maybe like 1950 01:42:59,440 --> 01:43:05,560 even right before and Prim like then we get that scene where 1951 01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:08,520 like she consoles Bambi and tells her like she will help her 1952 01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:13,720 through it. I hope and think what's going 1953 01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,480 to. I think what happens is Arie 1954 01:43:15,480 --> 01:43:18,120 starts going down a Google rabbit hole when it comes to 1955 01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:22,680 Bambi. I think she uncovers all the all 1956 01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,920 the demons and all the skeletons in the closet. 1957 01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:27,400 I think she uncovers the accident all the I think she 1958 01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:32,200 uncovers all that shit about Bambi which Prim knows about OK 1959 01:43:32,480 --> 01:43:33,840 and who knows what else she finds. 1960 01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:40,080 And I think that what happens is, is that again, Prim and 1961 01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:42,640 Bambi don't talk about their problems. 1962 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,960 They don't talk about trauma. So what's what? 1963 01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:48,840 The only way those two are going to talk about the trauma is if 1964 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:53,120 somebody else forces them to. So I think Arie is the agent of 1965 01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:56,080 chaos that is going to force Prim and Bambi to talk about 1966 01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:58,080 Bambi's trauma. I think that's what's going to 1967 01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:00,000 happen. It's going to go very badly 1968 01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,800 because you saw Bambi. So I think that Arie uncovers 1969 01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:06,280 all this shit and then tells Prim she might start with the 1970 01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:09,920 drugs and be like, you know, I found this, I found this here. 1971 01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:11,400 You should give this back to Bambi. 1972 01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:13,800 And then Prim's like, oh shit, what is this? 1973 01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,040 I didn't know my girlfriend was on like meds. 1974 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:19,360 And then maybe Arie let's things slip that she's found in her 1975 01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:23,920 Google search or whatever. And so it forces primed and then 1976 01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:27,000 fucking talk to Bambi about their fucking problems, right? 1977 01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,560 And it just goes poorly because they're bad at it. 1978 01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,200 And like, who knows what else Arie's going to say to her to 1979 01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:35,680 have Bambi be like, you still fucking believe her over me? 1980 01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:37,600 Because who knows if Bambi's being truthful? 1981 01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:40,880 Because Bambi's also not talking about the trauma elephant in the 1982 01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:41,640 room. You know what I mean? 1983 01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:43,320 Yeah. I just feel like it's going to 1984 01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:46,800 expose the fact that these two can't communicate and Aries 1985 01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,440 going to, like, force them to see the trauma in the room that 1986 01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:52,040 they're both ignoring and it's just going to blow up. 1987 01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,200 And I, I truthfully, I think there's other shit going on with 1988 01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:57,760 Bambi that goes beyond anxiety, to be honest with you. 1989 01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:00,600 And so there's like one clip where like baby's on the floor, 1990 01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:03,280 like clutching her heart and like prims with her. 1991 01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:06,240 And so I think that like baby's ended up in the hospital. 1992 01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:08,240 I really do. I really think I said it that 1993 01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,000 way, but she might. Be having a panic attack. 1994 01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,240 She might be having a panic attack because she doesn't have 1995 01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,320 her fucking Xanax, because Prim probably has it because Arie 1996 01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:18,040 probably gave it to her, you know? 1997 01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,000 So who knows. I feel like they're going to 1998 01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,760 implode and like probably break up in the next couple of 1999 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,720 episodes and like, because they have, I think we're going to get 2000 01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:27,880 to the part where they're going to. 2001 01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:31,160 I think the way they're pacing shit is they're like, OK, the B 2002 01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,680 plots getting real cute. All right. 2003 01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:37,960 The B plot is going to, I think by episode 10, Goria and Sasha 2004 01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,920 will be dating for real. And so again, I think they're 2005 01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,160 paste that on purpose because they'd be like they're like Prim 2006 01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:47,000 and Bambi are going to implode. Like around now we're getting 2007 01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:48,800 into Act 3, so we just ended Act 2. 2008 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,520 We're going into act three. I think in act three they 2009 01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,760 implode because they have to fuck a deal with the trauma and 2010 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,280 it's not going to go well because they're both horrible at 2011 01:45:56,280 --> 01:46:00,040 talking about you and you have Airy, who's the one intervening 2012 01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,840 who is not in good faith doing this right? 2013 01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:07,920 Aries trying to get Prim and Prim is ignoring the fact that 2014 01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:10,320 this person is in willfully ignoring the fact that this 2015 01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:15,000 person is into her. And like, and based on the 2016 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:18,040 conversation, like she's not believing Bambi. 2017 01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,040 Like, you know, it's like, yeah, they're going to implode. 2018 01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:23,600 Like I feel like that's what that's heading because they have 2019 01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:27,160 to because nothing in their relationship has changed since 2020 01:46:27,160 --> 01:46:29,880 the first round of dating other than Bambi has a bunch of 2021 01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,480 fucking trauma now. And Prim is in a position where 2022 01:46:32,480 --> 01:46:35,480 she can hire women, surround herself with women who are into 2023 01:46:35,480 --> 01:46:36,640 her and pretend like they're not. 2024 01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:38,880 That's the only thing that's actually changed in their 2025 01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:41,600 relationship. So their relationship has to 2026 01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:43,800 have some change. And I think this is going to be 2027 01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:44,960 it. I think it's going to be a big 2028 01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,920 focus of like the end of Lovic act. 2029 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:54,080 I just, I hope there's more going on and I hope that they 2030 01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:57,920 don't just go with, oh, anxiety is really bad. 2031 01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,360 Like how? Like, no, there's nothing wrong 2032 01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:01,840 with you. You can overcome this. 2033 01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:04,400 I don't, I really don't think that's what it is. 2034 01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:08,080 I really think that it's just going to be like, it's a little 2035 01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,440 thing that's going to force Prim and Bambi to talk about Z's 2036 01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:14,120 death, right? Because why does Bambi have 2037 01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,320 anxiety? Is perm going to ask her? 2038 01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:18,640 Why do you have anxiety? Or like what? 2039 01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:22,120 Like, you know, like why? Because then that forces baby to 2040 01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:23,520 talk about the trauma, right, You know what I mean? 2041 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,360 I feel like it's just going to be a catalyst to get to the 2042 01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:26,960 trauma. The thing we're not fucking 2043 01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:28,680 talking about. I don't I think, because 2044 01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:30,600 remember, anxiety is the symptom, not the problem. 2045 01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:31,920 Problem is the trauma. What I'm dealing with. 2046 01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,480 We have to get to the fucking trauma. 2047 01:47:34,480 --> 01:47:36,440 So like, this is going to be, we're going to have to drag 2048 01:47:36,440 --> 01:47:39,720 these two idiots into therapy somehow. 2049 01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:42,040 And like, this is the thing that's going to kind of get them 2050 01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:43,000 close to that. I think. 2051 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:44,720 I don't think it's going to be stigmatizing anxiety. 2052 01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:46,760 I think it's just going to be like, it's going to open the 2053 01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:50,200 door to be like, what's behind the anxiety door? 2054 01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:52,480 Oh, death. I think we have to get to the 2055 01:47:52,480 --> 01:47:54,880 death. Sorry, the way you said that. 2056 01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:58,040 Oh, it's death. It's true. 2057 01:47:58,400 --> 01:47:59,960 It's true. We have to get to the death. 2058 01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:02,680 We have to talk about the fucking trauma, and we have to 2059 01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,320 talk about the fact that Premius gassed me. 2060 01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:07,960 Fucking Bambi. Seriously, that's awful. 2061 01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:10,960 Seriously, it's awful. Kim Pram keeps doing it. 2062 01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,240 So I'm very curious to see what this fight is where Bambi is so 2063 01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:17,440 worked up and she's like saying that you believe those two faced 2064 01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:19,280 motherfucker and not me. I can't wait for that fight 2065 01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,600 because they suck at communicating. 2066 01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,360 I just I'm very curious what the rest of that is about. 2067 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,400 But yeah, I think they're about to implode. 2068 01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:29,360 I think they're going to implode because the other plot, I mean 2069 01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:32,120 the other the C plot might be slightly imploding but like the 2070 01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:34,600 the A plots, I'm going to implode because they have to 2071 01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:38,480 change and they will not. We've they've shown us for 8 2072 01:48:38,480 --> 01:48:39,880 episodes. They will not do it on their 2073 01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:41,880 own. Some kind of external 2074 01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:44,000 intervention has to happen for them to deal with their shit. 2075 01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:47,680 You're not wrong. I'm not wrong. 2076 01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:50,320 So I think that's the A plot. The A plot's going to implode 2077 01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:52,760 thanks to Arie and her fucked up shit. 2078 01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:58,200 It's like, but from Arie's point of view, what do you really 2079 01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,560 think is going to happen here? Do you really think that she's 2080 01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:03,160 delusional? Trump's going to choose you 2081 01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,920 after all this shit. She's definitely delusional. 2082 01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:11,480 She has to be either to your point, either she's like on a 2083 01:49:11,480 --> 01:49:17,320 revenge mission for Z somehow. Maybe she is. 2084 01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:20,600 Maybe she knew Z and is like trying to get revenge on Bambi 2085 01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:24,680 or whatever for fucking her, killing her friend in her, you 2086 01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:26,320 know, in her brain. Yeah. 2087 01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,680 But then the badminton thing seemed a little. 2088 01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:31,240 It was all weird the way unless she just lies all the time and 2089 01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,360 it was lying to her friend like you know. 2090 01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,480 Yeah, 'cause pathological liar. Yeah, maybe she's pathological. 2091 01:49:37,480 --> 01:49:40,440 She needs to be therapy. Take them off they all need. 2092 01:49:40,440 --> 01:49:43,320 Therapy. But then the the A plot needs 2093 01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:47,960 the most therapy, the C plot. I would argue the C plot doesn't 2094 01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,200 need therapy. I think they're OK 'cause 2095 01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:52,640 they're good at talking, they can talk through their problems. 2096 01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:54,400 I think they don't need a therapist. 2097 01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:59,400 I think they're OK. The B plot could use some 2098 01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:04,440 therapy. Shasha needs some therapy the. 2099 01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:08,840 A plot for the good of humanity means therapy like they're a 2100 01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,600 danger to society. The A plot. 2101 01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,600 Yes, they're a workplace hazard. They're a workplace. 2102 01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:19,720 Hazard they're a hazardous to Thailand, so put them and throw 2103 01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:21,640 them in therapy. They're they're not OK and 2104 01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:25,800 they're going to harm others. OK, so that's the a plot. 2105 01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:27,960 Anything else about the A plot, I think that's, I think they're 2106 01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:29,960 going to start imploding and that's that's going to be where 2107 01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:31,120 this is going. They're going to be like, we can 2108 01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:32,400 get through this, we can get through this. 2109 01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:38,080 And then they don't unless somebody changes, you can't get 2110 01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:42,480 through this together unless the unless like the focus now is 2111 01:50:42,480 --> 01:50:45,000 like everybody had that takes a village to get these two idiots 2112 01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,360 to like get their shit together like what they do with Sasha. 2113 01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:49,160 Like everybody gets together and be like y'all need an 2114 01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:50,600 intervention. What the fuck? 2115 01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:54,000 End up together. I don't want them to end up 2116 01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,560 together. Oh, I do not want Prim and Bambi 2117 01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:58,480 to end up together. It's a shame because when 2118 01:50:58,480 --> 01:51:01,920 they're cute, they're very cute. They're they are cute like when 2119 01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:03,640 they were hanging out in the bathtub and just like being 2120 01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,440 cute. Like they're cute but they 2121 01:51:05,440 --> 01:51:09,600 should not be together. They need to be friends in my 2122 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,080 opinion. They're even if they end up 2123 01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:15,040 together, they're, they're going to break up like they can't get 2124 01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:18,600 more than 10 years together. And that's that is really set 2125 01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,000 like. Pushing it. 2126 01:51:20,480 --> 01:51:23,480 They're just going to be toxic forever unless they change 2127 01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,400 anyway. B plot or C plot? 2128 01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:29,600 Where would you like to go to next? 2129 01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:34,200 Let's just go in alphabetical order B plot. 2130 01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:36,960 The B plot's the best 1 though. C plots real fast. 2131 01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:38,880 Let's do the C plot because the B plot's the best. 2132 01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,440 One. Then don't ask me if you are. 2133 01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:44,600 I don't know if you had notes. No, no, I said everything I had. 2134 01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:46,720 So we're just going. All right, got it. 2135 01:51:46,720 --> 01:51:51,000 So in the CC plot, because it's sequentially, the C plot is next 2136 01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:54,360 in the thing. So because the implication is 2137 01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:57,400 like, OK, so from the from the line from actually C plot was 2138 01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:01,400 first where Min was like, I can't have friend, like queer 2139 01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:06,120 friends that aren't prim. And then prow answers with like, 2140 01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:09,400 well, you know, in queer world, when a new person, new queer 2141 01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,640 person comes out, everybody wants them because it's a 2142 01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:14,160 limited dating pool and like everyone's all excited. 2143 01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:17,560 That's the hot new item, right? So that's when you can get the 2144 01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,880 most women is when you first come out because they all want 2145 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:23,360 you. OK, So I think what that's 2146 01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:26,800 implying is again, not the typical compact plot line, 2147 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,080 because we now have oil. Who's in the mix? 2148 01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:32,480 Who's end of men, which, by the way, that was hilarious at the 2149 01:52:32,480 --> 01:52:34,680 club where this woman is hitting on men. 2150 01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,960 Men doesn't know what's going on and prep for him is actually one 2151 01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:40,160 of my favorite prim moments. Print has a shit eating grit on 2152 01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,320 her face. Yeah, I know what this this 2153 01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:44,920 girl's into men and men's like, what do you want to do? 2154 01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:49,640 She's like, go to the spa. Anyway, So what are you thinking 2155 01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,760 that? Yeah, well, you got to phrase it 2156 01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:52,480 that way. Yeah. 2157 01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:56,760 Anyway, that was hilarious. So so I think this is a really 2158 01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:59,720 interesting C plot because basically now Min's in this 2159 01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:03,400 position where, you know, her big thing this episode, remember 2160 01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:07,000 she goes to get Boom or she goes to get Prow and Boom has her 2161 01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,800 hand on Prow and Min's like, that's mine. 2162 01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:14,000 And she like runs in and is like telling Prow she's like, listen, 2163 01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:16,960 you opened up my world, I'm going to open up yours now. 2164 01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:20,480 So she says that line. So implying that like in this 2165 01:53:20,480 --> 01:53:24,880 plot line, basically Min basically it has her eyes. 2166 01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:27,720 She sees color for the first time now that she has the prow 2167 01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:30,720 has shown her the way, right? She's looked behind the curtain 2168 01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:32,800 and was like, wow, I'll never be the same again, right. 2169 01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:36,280 But behind the curtain, there's all these other women. 2170 01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,440 OK, It's not just prow behind the curtain. 2171 01:53:38,440 --> 01:53:40,840 There's a whole host of queer ladies that blossom. 2172 01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:43,120 And one of them is now interested in men, somebody 2173 01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,920 who's of the same age as men, because that's what I got from 2174 01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:47,800 that conversation, because they're all kind of working 2175 01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:49,120 together in the entertainment industry. 2176 01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:52,600 So she's like probably of the age that they are where she's 2177 01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:56,440 established in her career making money versus proud who's like 2178 01:53:56,440 --> 01:53:58,880 trying to break in, right? They're in different stages of 2179 01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:00,880 their lives because that's part of proud and men's like 2180 01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,200 conflict, right, is that they're not indifferent. 2181 01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:08,120 They're not on the same like career level, age range or age 2182 01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:11,160 level, that kind of stuff. So here's somebody who is men's 2183 01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:14,560 equal for all better intents and purposes, right, who comes in 2184 01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:17,680 and is suddenly interested in. So now men is going to be in the 2185 01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:21,960 situation where she's like, am I into Proud or did Proud just 2186 01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:26,280 show me I'm queer And like, yeah, right. 2187 01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,360 So then I think Proud was threatened where she's like, 2188 01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,840 fuck, there's this woman who's your age who's like establishing 2189 01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:33,520 a career who can like buy you shit. 2190 01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:36,120 And like, I think Proud was going to get more threatened and 2191 01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:38,560 be like that. She's hanging out with men kind 2192 01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:39,840 of thing. And I think that's maybe where 2193 01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:45,520 that line comes from. I think or, or my brain the 2194 01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:49,400 first time I read it was like taking in these scenes was like 2195 01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:50,920 this. This could be out of context and 2196 01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:53,240 they have two lines next to each other that have nothing to do 2197 01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:57,920 with each other and like maybe men's talking to her mom and her 2198 01:54:57,920 --> 01:54:59,200 mom's like. Prow's not allowed. 2199 01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,680 Oh yeah, that's. Prim's enough and she's like, I 2200 01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:05,080 can only have one queer friend. Like, it could be that. 2201 01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:08,080 And they just like put those lines together out of context. 2202 01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:12,320 Yeah, you can't see who she's talking to and it kind of. 2203 01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,840 I think it is prow like, but it could be somebody else like it 2204 01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:17,760 could be somebody else because just because of the hair like 2205 01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:21,600 because they're somebody's hair. But again, this could always 2206 01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:24,240 make sense for. Her family too. 2207 01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:25,560 That's what I mean. This could be. 2208 01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:28,640 An out of contacts line, but like it's either about prow and 2209 01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:30,920 men's really, which I think is more likely, or it's the family. 2210 01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:32,680 I don't think they're going to bring the family back again 2211 01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:34,320 because we don't really have time to go through the family 2212 01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:38,800 again, but could be, but I think it's more so that's, that's 2213 01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:43,960 their dilemma where men's going to have to choose like do I Cuz 2214 01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:45,960 like what an interesting scenario, what a weird scenario 2215 01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:48,280 for her to be in. She's like, do I explore my 2216 01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:53,760 sexuality or just like is, am I confident that Prow is it like a 2217 01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:55,760 long term partner? You know, cuz she's just like, 2218 01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,720 this is all new for her, you know? 2219 01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:01,360 So like, it's an interesting kind of thing for men to have to 2220 01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:04,800 navigate and understandably Prow is going to be like insecure 2221 01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:08,720 about it. So that was the C plot, then the 2222 01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:10,400 B plot. That's going to be the fun plot. 2223 01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:15,840 So I think this is going to be the last episode of the Will 2224 01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:17,240 they won't they with Sasha and Goria. 2225 01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:21,520 Personally, I think they get together by episode 10 because 2226 01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:24,680 there's scenes from the pilot of or the trailer of them being 2227 01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:26,320 cute and shit. And I think those were headed 2228 01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,120 that way because the A plot's going to blow up. 2229 01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:33,000 That would make sense. We got to balance the A plot's 2230 01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:34,720 going to shine at the end. They're they're going to go 2231 01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:35,600 through it. OK? 2232 01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,880 I feel like that's where this is headed, but OK. 2233 01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:40,240 So then the B plot, so what's going on? 2234 01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:41,320 The B plot? What's going on? 2235 01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:45,120 The B plot is that Crystal's into Goria, OK? 2236 01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:49,240 And is going to make that very clear that she's into Goria, OK. 2237 01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:52,880 And then Sasha wasn't super clear the last time they were 2238 01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:54,280 together. So Gori's going to be in this 2239 01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:59,000 position where she has a choice, and Goria's never had a choice 2240 01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:02,440 before, OK. Which I think is unique to Goria 2241 01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:05,960 because in all of her relationships, it's like she 2242 01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:07,840 chooses somebody and they don't choose her. 2243 01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:13,240 Or remember when they when like the first time she meets Prim, 2244 01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:16,200 she's getting bullied because somebody else's girlfriend was 2245 01:57:16,200 --> 01:57:19,320 trying to like, cheat on their girlfriend with like was in 2246 01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:23,120 Gori's DMS And Gori's like, I don't encourage this behavior. 2247 01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:24,840 Like, your girlfriend is making moves on me. 2248 01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:27,080 She's never the sole focus of anybody. 2249 01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:30,600 But suddenly Gori is going to be the sole focus of two baddies. 2250 01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:33,960 OK. And so I think the whole episode 2251 01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:35,680 is gonna be Goria reveling in that. 2252 01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,440 And you know what, Goria? You deserve it, girl. 2253 01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:40,680 Like you deserve it. You deserve it. 2254 01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:43,720 I know that Sasha is the love of your life and also mine. 2255 01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,400 And it's OK that you put her through it for an episode 2256 01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,480 because you deserve it. You've been through some shit. 2257 01:57:50,240 --> 01:57:52,400 She really has. She's been through some shit, 2258 01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:56,760 She's been through some shit. So I think that she's going to 2259 01:57:56,760 --> 01:57:59,120 have to choose. And Sasha's going to be jealous, 2260 01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:01,920 obviously, because they have an emotional connection and they've 2261 01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:03,480 been through some stuff together at this point. 2262 01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:06,120 And I think she's like, I thought I was making myself 2263 01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,480 clear, but maybe I was because I think Goria might. 2264 01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:13,560 I think Goria felt a little rejected that Sasha didn't take 2265 01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:16,920 the invitation because she told Sasha that like, she's like, 2266 01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:18,640 nobody can just come to my house. 2267 01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:21,120 Like only people who are actually close to me. 2268 01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:26,120 Well, I invite in my house and she said to Sasha to like dig at 2269 01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:27,600 her one time. She's like, don't you know the 2270 01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:29,520 people closest to you are the most dangerous? 2271 01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:32,160 They can hurt you. So like basically gory was 2272 01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:33,840 saying you're close to me and I feel close to you. 2273 01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:36,560 And Sasha was like love that. But I'm going to go. 2274 01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:38,640 So I feel like Gory's a little hurt. 2275 01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:40,320 And so like here's crystal, right. 2276 01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,280 And like it's crystal. Like I would you blame gory? 2277 01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,600 It's like gory. If you want to like fool around 2278 01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:49,160 with Crystal for an episode, I won't be mad at you for that. 2279 01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:51,280 To be honest. I won't be mad. 2280 01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:52,760 You want to test it out, Test it out. 2281 01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:56,320 I think that's fine. But I think by the end of that, 2282 01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:58,520 I think she's going to choose Sasha. 2283 01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:00,560 So I think we're going to have sad girl Sasha for one more 2284 01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,320 episode. Goria finally being the center 2285 01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:06,440 of attention that she deserves to be and getting a choice. 2286 01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:10,840 And then yeah, is going to make the choice. 2287 01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:12,720 Like they're going to choose each other by the end of the 2288 01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:15,680 episode I think is where that's headed personally. 2289 01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:18,440 And maybe that's. Plausible. 2290 01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:21,280 Maybe you'll get to reveal that like Crystal is like that was my 2291 01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:23,840 master plan all along and her and Bambi high 5. 2292 01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:28,440 I think it would be like, yeah, that was my master plan, but if 2293 01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:30,680 I could get her too, I wouldn't be mad. 2294 01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,800 I will not say no to making out a hot woman. 2295 01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:36,640 That's, you know, if I had to do, I had to make out with her 2296 01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:38,400 for you, Sasha, you know what I mean? 2297 01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:42,120 I'm such a good friend. I'm such a good friend. 2298 01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:46,600 But yeah, I think that that's where that and then I think 2299 01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:48,960 they'll be together by the by the end, by the rest of the 2300 01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:51,480 episodes, and then like while everybody else is going through 2301 01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:54,120 their. So I'm very curious what Min's 2302 01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:55,920 going to do. I think that's the plot line I'm 2303 01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:58,720 most curious about because I really don't know. 2304 01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:01,120 I really can't predict that plot line, which makes it very fun. 2305 02:00:01,120 --> 02:00:02,760 But I don't know what Min's going to do. 2306 02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,640 I and I don't know. Do you have any thoughts about 2307 02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:09,800 Min? Is she going to do anything with 2308 02:00:09,880 --> 02:00:11,760 oil or is she going to stick it out with Prow? 2309 02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:24,560 I don't think so to a question, I don't think she'll do anything 2310 02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:28,640 with oil. I think she's going to find 2311 02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:32,880 herself in a situation where she doesn't know, not necessarily 2312 02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:36,160 how to say no, but like be like, I don't know what to do in this 2313 02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:38,800 situation because this is. New. 2314 02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,000 Yeah, this, this, everything is new for her. 2315 02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:46,440 Everything's new. That's their song, that's their 2316 02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:48,360 OSD. Yeah, it's all new. 2317 02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:56,080 So yeah, I really don't know. I don't know. 2318 02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:57,920 I really don't know. She's a wild card. 2319 02:00:58,160 --> 02:01:00,240 She's a wild card and then I don't know how Proud's going to 2320 02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:04,120 handle this because she's fiery. I. 2321 02:01:05,400 --> 02:01:08,040 Feel like proud's going to be very possessive and. 2322 02:01:08,400 --> 02:01:11,440 Very jealous and very understandably insecure about 2323 02:01:11,440 --> 02:01:14,480 this because she's like, I'm still the hidden girlfriend that 2324 02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:16,560 you won't tell people about and then you're going to go hang out 2325 02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,560 with this girl who's clearly into you. 2326 02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:22,360 It's understand. It's more understandable for a 2327 02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:26,160 proud to be upset about this than not upset because like, 2328 02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:29,400 yeah, she's already like, I don't have the status that I 2329 02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:31,400 want. If I had the status, people 2330 02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:35,720 would back off. But like, yeah, yeah, I think 2331 02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:38,560 that's going to fuel her insecurity, understandably so, 2332 02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:43,520 like so. It would be even suck more as if 2333 02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:46,360 they got to be like friends and she brought oil around her 2334 02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:49,320 family really quickly. Yeah. 2335 02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:53,440 You know what else would really suck is if Arie decides to blow 2336 02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:57,080 up everybody's lives and like outs men, you know what I mean? 2337 02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:59,440 Like blow like fucks up everything, you know what I 2338 02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:00,920 mean? If she can't get Prim and she 2339 02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:03,200 just goes on this like Bender. Honestly. 2340 02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:05,360 She could. She definitely could. 2341 02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:08,160 I do not like her, which sucks. Because I love Pang. 2342 02:02:09,160 --> 02:02:10,880 Hello. Sizy is doing a great job. 2343 02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:13,920 I, I, I don't, I, you know, I don't hate Airy. 2344 02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:16,640 She's an agent of Chaos, but I feel like she's going to do a 2345 02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:21,320 bunch of damage. Yeah. 2346 02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:24,040 It will be like that sometimes. But anyway. 2347 02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:26,440 So that's what we got. Episode 8 was really epic. 2348 02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:29,120 I hope you enjoyed it too. If we missed anything, leave it 2349 02:02:29,120 --> 02:02:31,520 in the comments. If you have any thoughts about 2350 02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:34,680 what's gonna go on from here on out, please let us know. 2351 02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:37,080 And who knows when we'll be back. 2352 02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:39,760 So until then, hydrate for lesbian Jesus. 2353 02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:42,480 And get it up all over the place. 2354 02:02:43,320 --> 02:02:44,520 Bye. Bye. 2355 02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:50,440 And with that, we've been big gay energy. 2356 02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:53,320 Thank you for listening. We'd really appreciate it if you 2357 02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:55,800 downloaded this episode and left us a review. 2358 02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:59,040 No matter how brief, your contribution will help us reach 2359 02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:01,760 a wider audience. We would love to hear from you 2360 02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:05,120 about everything and anything. 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