1 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:09,160 Hello and welcome to Big Gay Energy. 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,360 I'm Caitlin. And I'm Fiora. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,600 Come along with us while we dive into the fun and nuances of 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,280 queer media. Representation matters, and 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,600 we're. Here to talk about it. 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,560 Cheers queers. What's on the big gauge end of 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,480 today, Theora, today we're. Going to be discussing why we 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,160 love the Thai girl love series Harmony Secret Woo. 9 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,920 I thought Caitlin was about to leave us there, so we're about 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,880 to get. Weird, can't leave because I am 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,280 so excited to talk about Harmony Secret. 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,120 Can't leave, won't leave. Yes, that's right. 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,680 So this will not be a scene by scene breakdown. 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,000 This is going to be an overview of the things we loved about the 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,440 series and what our listeners at home loved about it as well. 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,480 So thank you in advance to everybody who answered the call 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,720 on social media when we asked why do you also love Harmony 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Secret? We will be reading out your 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,920 reactions or not reactions, your responses during this episode. 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,680 So thank you for all those who participated and added to the 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,240 conversation of what made this show so great. 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,600 If you're looking for more Harmony Secret content from us, 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,280 we did react to the entirety of the series. 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,760 So you'll find select reactions to a couple episodes over on 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,680 YouTube in highlight format because copyright. 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,680 And if you'd like to watch us react to the entirety of Harmony 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,400 Secret episode one through 8, no interruptions, no nothing, no 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,560 ads, become a Patreon member. So for $5 a month, you can 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,560 access to that and so much more. So head on over there. 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,040 Go do it. Go do it. 31 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Now, right now, so that yeah, so that's available to you right 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,000 now. And if you're interested in 33 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,880 talking or listening about the novel, we will have a book club 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,480 episode that's coming out soon that's going to be focused on 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,920 the Harmony secret novel. So it'll be coming out shortly 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,680 after this episode. So if you haven't read it, I 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,360 highly recommend you check it out because that would be coming 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,440 too, because the the novel and the series were they're similar 39 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,040 but different and it's worth getting into both of them 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,400 honestly. So that will be coming for you 41 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:16,800 soon. It's. 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,520 Coming for you. It's going to get you. 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,880 It will, one way or another. Yes, so all right, and with that 44 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,240 let's we're going to be focusing this episode on this series, OK, 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,800 so novel will be its own episode. 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,240 This is going to be about the series. 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,040 So I will start and I will say that Harmony Secret, just as an 48 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,160 aside, this is one of the few shows I watched in 2025 where I 49 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,720 was really impatient week to week to wait for episodes. 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,040 So impatient that I read the novel. 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,320 OK, cuz I need to know what the hell was going to happen with 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,480 these week to week things like I couldn't. 53 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,680 I was super impatient. And that doesn't happen to me 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,560 very often when I'm watching a television series where there's 55 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,040 a novel. Like sometimes yes, other times 56 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,160 I'll read the novel after I'll read it before. 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,880 No. This is one of the few shows 58 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,120 where I was like, I can't wait until the next episode. 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,880 I need to know I'm going to read the novel. 60 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,120 And I read the novel in like 3 days. 61 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Like I write it really fast. And, you know, she's serious 62 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,440 when I get texts about it. Like, she was so impatient. 63 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:25,000 So yeah, yeah, I mean, it was. It was hard. 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:30,520 It was a great story. And we made it even better in 65 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,040 our reaction. So definitely go check out 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,960 those. All right, where are we 67 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,440 starting? Why'd you love it, Caitlin? 68 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,440 I sorry. Or just popcorn. 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:53,280 I First of all the characters are very intriguing and one of 70 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:59,680 the most intriguing things about I is the fact that she has a 71 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,360 lesbian bar. Oh, she doesn't just have a 72 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,600 lesbian bar. She has more than one bar, 73 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,160 actually. Check out the novel. 74 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,400 But no, there's there's more than one, but we get the lesbian 75 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,120 bar in the series. And I think it's just really 76 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:21,320 cool to like, see that we've never seen like a like a queer 77 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,960 bar, I think, right. Not in a Thai girl of, but like, 78 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,480 yeah, like the, like I mentioned this when we were like the 79 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,120 stereotypical gay bar that used to be like, at least in America, 80 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,200 that's like a safe space for queer people. 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,320 So there's usually always a queer bar or a cafe like the 82 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,560 Planet and the L Word. Like usually you'd go to a gay 83 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,160 bar because that's where gays congregate in real life. 84 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,160 And so that's been missing from Thai dramas because they're 85 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,080 different countries with different cultures. 86 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,960 So thank you, Kunawei, and for bringing back the gay bar 87 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,240 because, yeah, it's been a while since I've seen a television 88 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:57,840 show with the gay. Well, also, like, drinking is 89 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:00,600 falling out of favor as it showed because it's terrible for 90 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,280 you. But the gay bar was like a place 91 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:04,760 where people could meet and, like, be gay. 92 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,200 So thanks. Thanks for that. 93 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,600 I enjoyed that. And it was a beautiful bar too. 94 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,280 Like fucking sweet. And the way she's. 95 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,520 It's not just a queer bar. It's like women, queer women 96 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,600 only. Yeah. 97 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,000 It's exclusive to queer women. A true safe space for a queer 98 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,320 lady is like. And I love that like, May kind 99 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,440 of had her like gay awakening there 'cause she's this was like 100 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,520 the first time that she was surrounded by queer. 101 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,320 Women that we are aware of or that she's aware. 102 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,280 Of Oh, yeah, I mean, like, but the, the way that she reacted to 103 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:41,000 it, it was just like she was so out of her element in that 104 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,960 moment and the way she's like, oh, you like women and like she 105 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,960 was just trying to put it all together and then she's headed 106 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:50,560 and. Then like. 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,520 Slowly in her head, I feel like subconscious that she's like, do 108 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,200 I like women? There's a lot of beautiful 109 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,480 people here. And that is the gay agenda. 110 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,320 Thank you, Kunai for keeping it real. 111 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,240 But I do love the cinematography in the show because as Maze or 112 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,920 Maple is like putting it together, it's just like it cuts 113 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,760 to just shots of women like cheers in each other. 114 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,600 I'm like, none of this is inherently A homoerotic, but 115 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,000 like Maze, like this is gay. And it's just like women being 116 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,600 like, yo, that's like not super gay. 117 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,040 No one's making out on tables or anything. 118 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,080 It's just like very tame people chill out at a bar. 119 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,880 And Maple's like, this is gay, which says a lot more about May 120 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,560 than the bar. I don't know how she like jumped 121 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,680 to that because I didn't jump to that when I was seeing it just 122 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,240 looks like people at a bar. She's just like, it's gay. 123 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,720 It's like. Because she was. 124 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,680 It's a women only bar. It was not. 125 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,840 Said that it's a like I said, it was gay. 126 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,560 Lesbian, gay, queer, any of that. 127 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:54,320 It's a women only, but it just. Her brain went there, which 128 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,440 again, is the central theme of the story. 129 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,520 So she's a late in life lesbian and then eyes not? 130 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,000 I is definitely not I is definitely I is fully 131 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:10,080 comfortable in her own. She's out proud, basically, not 132 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,360 out proud to her family, but like to the community at large. 133 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,040 Okay, one thing I loved about the series is I just loved how 134 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:23,160 messy everyone was, particularly I admit, but they were just like 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,800 messy adults. OK so first of all, I really 136 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,280 love how I and May go from zero to 100 in their relationship. 137 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:36,280 I love that. 15. Minutes zero to 100 like they're 138 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,160 like, it's so funny because it's just like messy adults, right? 139 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:47,440 And this is like a truly the chaotic, messy, yeah as fuck 140 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,800 adult series that I always wanted because it's just that's 141 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,600 all they were doing. They're just being messy, 142 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,760 chaotic adults for most of the time. 143 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,360 I really love it. They're very complicated. 144 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,400 They're fun. They're fun, but very 145 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,600 complicated. I mean by that. 146 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,800 They're complicated in the fact that let's never forget that 147 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,600 Maple bugged eyes apartment even though they seem to forget that 148 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:20,040 and also that I drugged Maple. OK, OK, I have to say you're 149 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,800 going to have to check out the book club because I give a whole 150 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,400 thesis about how I is not a predator. 151 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:33,840 And then the series changed some shit, which I guess I'll jump 152 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,520 into now. So the series had some 153 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,039 alterations from the novel and I think some of them like that 154 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,559 were used to just cause more drama, which I don't like. 155 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,480 That was one of the things I didn't like about the series. 156 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,880 I understand why they did it because it literally just causes 157 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,560 drama, but it was a change from the novel that was like it felt 158 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:56,120 unnecessary and like literally it was just there to cause 159 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,920 drama. So first of all, they wrote I to 160 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:05,160 be a predator, but like this is and the fact that like this 161 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,320 again, to make it that raise the stakes that oh, she drugged her 162 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,000 and her that never happens in the book. 163 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,680 First of all, In fact, the way it goes out in the book is 164 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:14,480 glorious. Can't check it out. 165 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,360 And and like they make her predatory and then never address 166 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,600 it ever. Like we don't ever address it. 167 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,120 It's like it's there to cause drama for us. 168 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,640 And then like there's no they never revisit it. 169 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,600 OK, And that's not the only thing they did like that other 170 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,960 thing I don't like about the show that they changed is they 171 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,480 made Maple seem more immature than she was actually. 172 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:45,200 Because in the series, like her main thing is she's as an adult 173 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,600 when we pick this all up, she's so fixated on proving herself, 174 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,440 which is understandable because she's this is her first like 175 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,440 audition, first role in the world of business. 176 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,680 And, and basically her dad's like here you go. 177 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:00,960 And then all these colleagues that have been looking to him to 178 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,360 lead are now looking at her and and she's competing against her 179 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,480 childhood rival. We'll get into the childhood 180 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,760 parts too, also. But like, so she was had a lot 181 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,000 of pressure to prove herself right. 182 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,560 But in the series, the way they like made that a like negative 183 00:10:15,560 --> 00:10:20,280 flaw for her when she dipped her toes too deeply into that. 184 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,320 So like basically she would be so fixated on proving herself 185 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,720 that it would blind her. Like for example. 186 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,760 And this most egregious and stupid example of that is when 187 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,360 she meets Ratchet behind eyes back. 188 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,120 That. That's what I mean, that never 189 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,640 happens in the novel. And like, it's because she's 190 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,640 blinded by her ambition and stuff. 191 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:43,960 And it's like they, and again, why was it there to cause drama? 192 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,000 Like, like it didn't make sense of her to do that, but they 193 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,680 wrote her to be almost like less intelligent than she was 194 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:54,040 actually as a character. Because I really love Maple, 195 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,640 like particularly from the novel. 196 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,480 And it was just like, what are you doing with Maple? 197 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,600 Like I don't like the characters had different reads to me like 198 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,520 having read the novel, which is fine because like this is an 199 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,960 adaptation, it's not a one to one translation from serious to 200 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,960 novel and vice versa. But like, I didn't like that 201 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,000 element of Maple's character in the show because it made her do 202 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,320 stupid shit that she wouldn't have otherwise done. 203 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,040 No, because like, who thinks it's a smart idea for like, oh, 204 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,440 I told me that this guy is dangerous and to never trust 205 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,840 him. And then in the very next 206 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,000 episode, go meet him by herself because she's like. 207 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,040 I don't trust I it cuz like I, they would kept getting into 208 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:41,520 these like cycles of like were I would try to mentor me Maple. 209 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:46,440 But then because they wrote her to be so ambitious to a fault, 210 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,240 Maple couldn't take the feedback. 211 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,240 She would take the feedback as being like, you think you're 212 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,120 better than me. And then she would act out 213 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,720 because her character was immature in the series. 214 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,080 And then she would do stupid shit because she's, she's like, 215 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,280 I'm going to get back at I. And it was like, Maple's not 216 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,520 stupid. She's actually really 217 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,800 intelligent, really rational and like would never do this. 218 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,840 And so like being somebody who's read the novel, I was like, 219 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,840 because because again, it's written that way to create 220 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:11,720 drama. That's it. 221 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,640 And I just, I didn't agree with a lot of these changes, but 222 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,760 like, I it's just to make drama. Another example of that is 223 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,720 Maple's father secretly deceiving her. 224 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,520 That never happened in the novel, by the way. 225 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,360 It's there just to cause drama. And we never address it the same 226 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,800 way we don't address as a predator. 227 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,800 And you know what I think? I think I'm more upset that we 228 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:42,600 don't address the fact that the dad bribed the doctor to lie to 229 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,400 his daughter. Lie. 230 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,560 To his daughter. Like flat out lied to his 231 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:46,880 daughter. I think I'm more pissed off 232 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,240 about that and like not resolving that and like him 233 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,400 apologizing for that. She doesn't even know. 234 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,840 She never finds out that that. Wasn't true. 235 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,680 She also never OK, I'm more upset about the eye the eye 236 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,320 thing because she date drugs her. 237 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,480 That's true Yeah. No, no, that's that's really 238 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,560 bad. What's her in danger like that? 239 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:06,960 Like if I was actually a fucking predator like that would be 240 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,080 fucked like that's so are we never taught? 241 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,040 And maybe she doesn't find that out either, like, you know. 242 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,600 Yeah, that's true. She never finds out. 243 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,840 That she was drugged. We never addressed that and 244 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,240 people never finds out it's fucked. 245 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,440 Yeah, that, that really. Is good stuff. 246 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,840 And then last thing is all the mommy issues. 247 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,640 So OK, in the novel there's no body count. 248 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,040 All the parents are alive. Wow, all the parents are married 249 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,320 to their significant others. I's mom does not abandon the 250 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,080 family. Like they made a lot of changes 251 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,640 like this just to cause drama. And I can understand body count 252 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,960 sometimes because you're like, then I have to cast and Payless 253 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,440 people, which I get that too. And then it's like, we'll just 254 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,120 make her this a sob story. And it makes like Maple and her 255 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,040 dad closer because like, oh, they have each other and I and 256 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,360 her dad. So we're like, they're going to 257 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,360 focus the story on those plot lines. 258 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,960 But then I's mom's plot line was just weird. 259 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,760 It was this weird, like she, but not really. 260 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,280 And like, maybe it's her and it's like, why was this here? 261 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,240 Like it was just it was there to cause weird drama. 262 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,560 But I was like, OK, but like I didn't feel like that was always 263 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:16,400 necessary. But anyway, those are just some 264 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,760 of my my qualms with like things that were different. 265 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,560 There were some things that were different that I loved in the 266 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,200 series. These were the ones I didn't 267 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,160 super love, but I think they were mostly to cause drama. 268 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,560 I don't understand why I's mom abandoned her to cause. 269 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,720 Drama. Well, yeah, I just. 270 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,680 I like story wise I don't think that I's mom was abandoning I. 271 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,120 I's mom was leaving the dad. That was it. 272 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,440 The the the child belongs to both of them. 273 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,200 Why is it the assumption the woman takes the child like? 274 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,400 No, I know that but like she, he has no time for anyone. 275 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,600 So like that means her daughter is. 276 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,840 He's got money, he can pay nannies, maybe he'll step up and 277 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,560 be an actual dad. Like again, Why is it on her? 278 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Well, I would say the same thing if it was the other way. 279 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,760 Around yeah, I mean, yeah, exactly. 280 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,720 People are adults are irrational too. 281 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:13,160 Like, whatever. Well, he was like, mom was 282 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,680 cheating on me and had another man, so like, she's like going 283 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,200 to my new family. Men do that shit all the time. 284 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,000 And again, no one's like, why didn't he take the child? 285 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,240 Guys, got another? Family going on, I'm not going 286 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,000 to bring a child like you stay with your dad. 287 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,280 I'll see you later or never again. 288 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,440 This never happened in the novel, so who knows why these 289 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,760 things happen? I think they're there to cause 290 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,440 drama. That's it. 291 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,760 And then give her and then then they can. 292 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,800 They can. The protagonists can then bond 293 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,760 over their mommy issues. That's it. 294 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,680 I think it's really that deep, honestly. 295 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,360 OK, besides that. So one of the one of the things 296 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,360 that I do love about the show is that this is one of the few 297 00:15:55,560 --> 00:16:00,920 shows specifically the tiger love drama, but genre, but like 298 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,960 in general, where I genuinely enjoyed both main characters as 299 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,280 individual people, not just as the couple. 300 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,120 I enjoyed them both as characters. 301 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:17,560 So I first and foremost, I love how shamelessly gay I what Ian 302 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,120 is. First of all, I love that about 303 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,040 her. Shamelessly gay and also knows 304 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:29,240 what she wants and stops at nothing to a fault to get what 305 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,440 she wants. I love her confidence, I love 306 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:40,680 everything about her, but I just #1 so shamelessly gay because we 307 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,600 haven't had a shamelessly out proud queer character. 308 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,720 At least I haven't in media in a while. 309 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,760 So it was very refreshing to see that again. 310 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,680 I was like, yes, thank you, finally. 311 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,760 Usually it's like I have to come to terms of my sexuality or 312 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,560 like, we're chilling normal about it. 313 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,960 She's not chilling normal about it. 314 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:00,360 I love that about her. And then on the same train, I 315 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:05,000 loved May's shameless ambition. Like, good for you, girl. 316 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,520 Like, yeah, it blinded her in the show because of how they 317 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,640 wrote her. But like she was so shameless 318 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,200 about wanting to prove herself, wanting to be the leader, 319 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,640 wanting to make a name for herself and her career, like, 320 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,520 And I love that about her. Like I love that. 321 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,319 Like I wasn't super about that. She was just like, yeah, I'm 322 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:22,640 doing this thing and I'm just supremely good at it. 323 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,240 So I like the the the different elements of their 324 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,160 characterization, like the things that made they were 325 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,080 shameless about or different and fun, and I enjoyed that about 326 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,960 them. I also like the fact that the 327 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:41,400 way that they use the childhood back story, really, I personally 328 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,760 feel like it enhanced what was going on in the present because 329 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:50,520 it showed her drive to succeed. Cuz she's like Maple. 330 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,520 Yeah, Maple to succeed because she was beaten out by I in high 331 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,040 school. And like all she wants to do is 332 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,440 to prove herself that she can make a plan, that she can run 333 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,480 things. And so now that is what she's 334 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,320 doing. And that makes it complicated 335 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:14,000 right now, too, because this is the person who beat her in high 336 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:19,800 school, and now it's like, oh, is she really just playing me to 337 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,320 be on top again? But yeah, and I agree with that. 338 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:28,440 It does help kind of it contextualizes why she is mature 339 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,560 about all this too, because it's like this unresolved childhood 340 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,360 thing where it was it was A1 sided rivalry. 341 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:38,520 Like I was not trying to bait her or like shame her. 342 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,640 But that's how Maple interpreted that whole thing and was like, 343 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,000 Oh yeah, I'm going to get you back. 344 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,400 I was like, she's so pretty. Look at her like she never like 345 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,720 that was never again like that. That's the thing I don't like 346 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,080 about the way they created a childhood back story, first of 347 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,720 all for the series and then, like, used it to, like, create 348 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,680 this lingering tension, which is fine. 349 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,800 But then, like, Maple would revert back to being a child 350 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,360 when she would get into it, when those feelings would come up 351 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,000 again. And it made her do stupid shit, 352 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,600 which I didn't. Yeah, that's fair. 353 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,440 But I get what you're saying. Like it does help contextualize 354 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,040 Maple's ambition, but like also like, you know, being a being a 355 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,880 woman that just got out of her master's degree and is fresh 356 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,120 into her career. Like you also don't need a 357 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:22,080 tragic back story to understand why she would be ambitious. 358 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,800 Like that's seems like it's been her journey throughout her like 359 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,480 education and stuff. Like same way with I like I was 360 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,000 ambitious, but like not because she had a tragic back story, 361 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,680 because she was just an ambitious woman. 362 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,240 And like I enjoy that about the two of them. 363 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,200 And also Speaking of their like business stuff because like 364 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,280 they're in a, a business setting for like most of the series, not 365 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,280 when they're doing sexy time stuff, but like for the setting 366 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,760 of the plot basically. And what I like about the two of 367 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,880 them as individuals to go back to that is that I love that both 368 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,520 of them were competent leaders. Like I was more experienced when 369 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,480 we start the story, obviously because she's older and been 370 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,760 doing this longer and then May is new to it. 371 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,600 But they're both competent at it because we do get, I like that 372 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,320 they give us scenes with them conducting business. 373 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,320 And you got to see how good they actually were at their jobs. 374 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Like, they're not just, yes, they're neppo babies, but 375 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,400 they're not just neppo babies. Like, they're actually good at 376 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,200 what they're doing. And with that, neither of them 377 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,440 fell into the damsel in distressed rope. 378 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,520 Like, neither of them. Like, yeah, there were times 379 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,400 where I saved Maple from situations because again, she's 380 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,080 older, wiser, more experienced. Also, they were in her hotel. 381 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,680 She knew all the tricks, like made sense. 382 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,720 But Maple was never the damsel in distress ever. 383 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,520 Like she was competent on her own. 384 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,280 Same way with I like also competent on her own. 385 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,920 So I do. Again, that's why I like them as 386 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,080 individual characters. They're both very strong, like 387 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,760 quality characters who can stand on their own, which made them 388 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,920 interacting super fun because they're both they butt heads 389 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,240 sometimes. I think we've got a great 390 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:04,120 mixture of business and their personal life because they did 391 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:08,800 not bury the business stuff like they flushed that out. 392 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,640 And that's what something I talked about in when we talked 393 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,640 about love design, like they really talked and like we saw 394 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,040 presentations now that show, I felt like there was a little too 395 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,640 much at times. This show, I think had like a 396 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,080 great, great balance. Yeah, I agreed. 397 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,600 And even like the business stuff created its own storyline drama 398 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,760 of like, oh, the guys are meeting behind their back and 399 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:39,200 like them sacrificing that poor employee to go spy for them. 400 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,880 I really feel bad for her. Remember when they put her phone 401 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:49,400 their one of their phones in the server's pocket and went? 402 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,040 Oh. Oh to over get a conversation. 403 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,600 They were OK. When they were snooping on 404 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,120 Ratchet and the other dude from Greater at the restaurant and 405 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:05,440 then I and May had to like, coerce the waitress to record 406 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,120 their conversation. Yeah, that was fuck. 407 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,120 Oh my God, I really thought there. 408 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,520 I thought there was more going to happen with that and that. 409 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,560 Employee, I was just women helping women. 410 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,000 Yeah, I mean, I'm glad. Nothing happened to her, but I 411 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,120 was really. Scared for a second? 412 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,640 Also it's not insane for a waitress to have her cell phone 413 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,480 on her so like I don't know why they would be suspicious of her. 414 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,000 I hate drama Theora. Just drama. 415 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,160 I guess, yeah. So I'm glad that that worked 416 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,640 out. But like, again, that was them 417 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,200 both being clever and like, in their own way. 418 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,360 And you see that like when they work together, they're more 419 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,400 effective as a team, which I like. 420 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:51,440 Yes, they together they're balance each other out. 421 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:57,800 Yes, with like thinking ahead versus just doing 'cause I feel 422 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:04,640 like I is thinks things out more so and Maple is just like all 423 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,000 right, we do this right now. Just like how when they were in 424 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,160 that meeting and Maple was going in on. 425 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,800 I forget his name, but like she was saying how like she was 426 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,920 fighting back and I stops her and like, pulls her aside out in 427 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,440 the hallway was like, you can't let them know where you are, 428 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,960 like, lose your cool. You can't let them know where 429 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,120 your head is because you'll lose your power. 430 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:35,040 Something like that. Yeah. 431 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,440 So they definitely level each other out, which I think is a 432 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,560 great business partnership and also a regular partnership 433 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,720 because you need someone to help you become a better person too. 434 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,200 Yeah, no, overall I thought I liked their relationship. 435 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,400 Honestly. I don't like some of the changes 436 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,800 in the series that made it seem more predatory than it actually 437 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,200 was, like from the source material. 438 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,160 But they were very fun. They're a fun couple to watch 439 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,280 because there is a good amount of tension between them that's 440 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,360 related to their situation, which is rival business women. 441 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,280 And then they just have this unresolved or brooding explosive 442 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,080 sexual tension situation happening with them and they're 443 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,320 just so messy and dumb about it sometimes. 444 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,960 And I just love that about them. It's so fun. 445 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,600 It's just very fun to watch them be idiots honestly. 446 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,200 Something else I loved and it goes with the balancing each 447 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,200 other out. Thing is, we get a little, I 448 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,560 guess, social commentary like and it's. 449 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,000 Get what? I don't know if it's social 450 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,200 commentary, if that's the right word. 451 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,040 I couldn't. Hear that word? 452 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,520 OK, social commentary, but it's kind of like they have this 453 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,280 conversation where it's like, the grass is greener on the 454 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,840 other side. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 455 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,600 We're like, yeah, yeah. Where Maple thinks that, like 456 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,960 the common folk, the street vendors have more enviable lives 457 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,520 and they like, She doesn't understand why these people envy 458 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,320 their I and me. They're like, Oh my God, we work 459 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,360 so hard as. Elite. 460 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:17,840 People and I was like, have you ever tried starving because 461 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,080 maybe like, what the fuck are you talking about? 462 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,080 I I was happy about that because I was like, this seems like some 463 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,000 elitist propaganda, like propaganda for the 1%. 464 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,400 And then I like that I comes in and. 465 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,280 She's like girl. What are you saying? 466 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,000 You're saying some privileged of shit right now. 467 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,960 Yeah, so like I is like, not I Maple's like they have the 468 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,800 freedom to do what they want without anyone forcing them to. 469 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,360 And then I like just checks her immediately and like, doesn't 470 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:49,400 even like try to agree with. She's like, but what they don't 471 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,160 have is money and whether we like it, like you have to admit 472 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,160 that money is one of the most important factors in life. 473 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,400 And like, I love that she says this because a lot of times 474 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,360 people are like, oh, money doesn't buy happiness. 475 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:02,720 Money doesn't do this. Money doesn't. 476 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,560 But it is very important. That's actually propagate. 477 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,520 And like she does remind Maple that she doesn't. 478 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,560 She never had to watch someone she loved get sick and not have 479 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,640 the money to treat them or get food. 480 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,840 Like she doesn't have to worry about these things, right? 481 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,600 And I just as soon as I heard Maples saying this, I was like, 482 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,760 are you kidding me? Are they really going to make us 483 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,440 feel bad for the rich bitches? That's what I mean. 484 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,520 It's propaganda. I'm like, this is 1% propaganda. 485 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,480 And then as soon as she checks, I was like, yes, that is 486 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,120 perfect. And Maple doesn't get defensive. 487 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,240 Well, I also did wasn't like scolding her or like being 488 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,840 elitist in her response to be like, you're so stupid. 489 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,760 How could you say that she was again, throughout this again, 490 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,640 it's missed because you're in Maple's point of view a lot in 491 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,040 the series. But like I tries to mentor Maple 492 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,480 and help her. Like in the novel, it's an 493 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,440 official mentoring thing that happens. 494 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,000 It's not in the series, but like she does try to, like, help her 495 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,440 knowing that like, she's new to this business world. 496 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,640 So they do have kind of like a mentor mentee relationship that 497 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,720 shows up in the series. But it's like very, very 498 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,080 unofficial and very rare because anytime I tries to do it, May 499 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,800 gets defensive because of the childhood back story they wrote 500 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,000 in. Yeah. 501 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,000 So like, this is a good example of like, I in good faith, being 502 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,760 like, girl, have you thought about this? 503 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,560 And then, like, let instead of like lecturing her, she lets Mae 504 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,400 come to her own conclusion. And that method seems to work 505 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,760 better than I just being like yo it'll do that next time. 506 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,960 Yeah, she doesn't really take well to being told. 507 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,840 Not in the series, no. The series, no. 508 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,760 Cuz yeah, she always thinks it's, it's I thinking she's 509 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,080 better than me. And that's like really not. 510 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,600 And that's all we get. Never. 511 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,280 That thought has never crossed eyes, mind. 512 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,960 Ever. That's how we get a Maple 513 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,560 meeting, Ratchet. Yes, that is exactly how we get 514 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,120 there. It is again, she act like a 515 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,400 child sometimes and I really didn't like that because Maple 516 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,080 is a very competent, very common character. 517 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,160 And it's like it makes sense that she would make mistakes and 518 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,040 stuff in the bills in the business from and even with I 519 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,280 too, because like, this is her first, like relationship with 520 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,960 feelings. First of all, it's the first 521 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,040 relationship with feelings with both of them, which I love 522 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,480 because they're both coming from that this from different places. 523 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,240 But they it's new. It's a new territory for both of 524 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,240 them. So yeah, they're going to make 525 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,200 mistakes because this is a new situation. 526 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,760 And also on top of that, Mae is mostly at a disadvantage too, 527 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,520 because she's also entering this business realm for the first 528 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,480 time in this new leadership position. 529 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,320 And the stakes are stupidly high. 530 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,160 And then the dad's antics doesn't help anything. 531 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,960 He just puts more pressure on her. 532 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,120 But so, yeah, it's it's it makes sense that she would make 533 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,560 mistakes or like try to be like, maybe I shouldn't trust I 534 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,920 because, you know, she knows what she's doing and I don't. 535 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,440 And like, it's kind of like her insecurity comes out and then 536 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,520 she does things that like, I think if she wasn't feeling 537 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,240 insecure, she wouldn't have done. 538 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,120 And it was never I's intention to make her feel insecure, but 539 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,120 like that was eyes intention, but that was not Mays 540 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,800 interpretation of the situation. And so it ends up you end up 541 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,200 like The thing is like the thing I love about the story is like 542 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,200 it really didn't need all this extra like manipulation to make 543 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,080 drama. Like the drama just happened 544 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,160 between them because they're in this high stakes situation and 545 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,040 they're both on different levels when it comes to business 546 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,760 experience. And so like mistakes are going 547 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,720 to happen and like misunderstandings are going to 548 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,520 happen. And you know, because they're 549 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,520 they're they're trying to like keep it professional, but then 550 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,880 also they're in this realm together. 551 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,160 And it's like, I can't tell you everything because we're rivals, 552 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,960 but that so like if this, the plot actually had it was very 553 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,800 fruitful for drama that was really good. 554 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,800 But then they like the series was like, let's add more drama. 555 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,080 It's like, didn't we need to do this? 556 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,120 But you know, it was a fun show. Like every episode was very good 557 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,640 and very entertaining. And I was never once bored 558 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,760 watching the show. Like not one second. 559 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,200 It was so good. I was never like tempted to Fast 560 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,280 forward through anything. It was just all of it was good. 561 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,240 That is, that's a great point. No, it was always like, what is 562 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,840 going to happen? Because anything could. 563 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,080 Anything good and you know what else you never Fast forward 564 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,360 through the the OST in the beginning. 565 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,000 Oh yeah. So can we talk about the music 566 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,200 in the show? Because the music period. 567 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,000 They have the best OS TS plural. I know the most famous one is 568 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,000 secret deal because yes, but all of them are so, so good. 569 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,120 If you haven't like sat down and really listen to all of the OS 570 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,480 TS from harmony secret, I highly recommend it. 571 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,520 They're they're sprinkled throughout the show, but they're 572 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,320 so good. Each one was so different than 573 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,160 the other. And Sonia has the voice of an 574 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,840 Angel. I just have to say that her 575 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,600 voice is so beautiful, the way she sings. 576 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,520 So they're just very beautiful songs. 577 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,040 But I mean, kudos to Harmony's secret. 578 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,800 Like you cannot and will not skip the opening title Secrets 579 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,800 because Secret Deal is such a good song. 580 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,840 Yeah, you know it really. It's a it's a great dance song 581 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,520 too. It's AK pop song. 582 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,120 It's fucking awesome. Like it's AK pop song. 583 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,960 OK other thing I want to say about the music besides the fact 584 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,800 that Secret Tale is the the Best Song Ever is aside from the OS 585 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,640 TS. I do have a comment about the 586 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,560 soundtrack in the series. So not the original songs, but 587 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,720 like the music that they played in the background. 588 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,320 So I don't know what happened in post, but they had the games all 589 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,480 the way up on the background music, I guess for drama. 590 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,080 And like sometimes it was way too much, like the music was 591 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,560 like way too loud and way too dramatic for like some of the 592 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,480 scenes, you know what I mean? They always had that really 593 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,200 intense, like, kind of music through, like they would be 594 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,640 having conversations and like, that would be playing and like 595 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,200 they, I think they overplayed that a little bit in the show. 596 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,800 That's fair. Yeah. 597 00:31:58,920 --> 00:31:59,800 And the gains were all the way up. 598 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,680 So it was like loud too. It wasn't just like subtle 599 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,680 background music. But again, I think it was there 600 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,160 for drama and like to emphasize the fact that these are high 601 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,040 stakes business conversations and stuff. 602 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,240 But it was a little too much for me sometimes. 603 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,360 And it's like not life or death some of. 604 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,560 Some of it, well, yeah, like 2 elitist rich people. 605 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,200 It feels like life or death to lose out on a business contract. 606 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,400 But like, yeah, it was like, I think they over over did it 607 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,200 sometimes with that. That's fair, yeah. 608 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:35,200 All right, so something else that I love very, very much are 609 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,440 our side bitches. Yes, I also love, love, love 610 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,240 them. So this was one of those changes 611 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,960 in the series that only exists in the series. 612 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,640 There is no side bitches in the novel. 613 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,960 Sorry, that's a crime. Sorry to disappoint and like, 614 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,920 I'll get it. I will get into it in the novel 615 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,360 about why it wasn't going to happen as written, but I'm 616 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:02,040 really glad they existed. But I would have liked more more 617 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,840 of them period. But I understand having read the 618 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,480 novel why there wasn't more of them. 619 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,560 And I understand some critique from people that I watch the 620 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,560 show is like, oh, it felt really weird the way their story 621 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,800 unfolded and stuff. And it's like it's because the 622 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400 show made them up. Like there is no like source 623 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,000 material to pull from. Like they purely made them up 624 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,800 for the show. Like Yam and G were in there, 625 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,640 Yam and G were assistance to their respective like business 626 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,320 person, but it didn't go beyond that really in terms of the 627 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,000 similarities with the show. So it was like a brand new story 628 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,120 and like, yeah, it wasn't super cohesive, but I would have liked 629 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,440 more of them. But I'm glad we have them at 630 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,480 all. Like is what I'm saying. 631 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,640 Like I loved them and I loved I loved the actors that played 632 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,280 them. They were very funny together. 633 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,480 I'm very happy about their series that they have. 634 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,160 I want to be soup Tar, which is I like it so far. 635 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,600 I just I love them as a couple. I think they're hilarious. 636 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,640 Like they're very good comedian. They have a good like serious, 637 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,760 like sunshine and grumpy like that's very fun, especially in a 638 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,440 comedy. Like that's more of a comedy. 639 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,199 But I love them here. I thought they were great. 640 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,719 Yeah, I wish. I mean, we seem to flesh out yam 641 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,199 a little bit more than GI. Feel like G is more like. 642 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:22,600 Well, I I feel like it's. More back story is Yam. 643 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,719 Oh G also got the back story that like she was friends with 644 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,679 Maple in like college and like protected her in college from 645 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,840 like date rape like why she was getting drunk. 646 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,159 Yeah, I know. Seriously. 647 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,760 Like that girl? She does have a back story and 648 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,440 we do have back stories. They're just like quicker. 649 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,239 And I feel like, yeah, Yams was my favorite, so it sticks out of 650 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,360 my mind. That's probably what it is, I 651 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,159 think. That's what it is. 652 00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,000 But they both had back stories that were brand new that were 653 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,040 not in the novel. And they did kind of like 654 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:59,000 resemble each other in the fact that I and Maple both got them 655 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,160 to where they are today, right? So it was definitely a very good 656 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,360 contrast with the two. And like makes sense with their 657 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:11,640 loyalties to their bosses. However, we just we need to 658 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,840 we'll get we'll talk about the back story in a little in a 659 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,640 second, but their that bathroom hostage scene that was crazy. 660 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,200 That was literally. Insane. 661 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,680 Yeah, again, that was just on the show. 662 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,920 That was crazy. That was insane. 663 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,640 But like, and then you understand, like OK, I literally 664 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,240 saved Yam's life so she would quite literally do anything for 665 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:36,760 her, but she's like, I literally. 666 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,320 Would die for her. I would literally murder 667 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,000 everyone in this room and also myself if it meant helping. 668 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,080 I like that's how extreme her loyalty however I also feel. 669 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,520 Like her mental health wasn't fully. 670 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,400 Like she. Oh no, I mean. 671 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,600 She has so much trauma growing up too, like right. 672 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:56,320 So like definitely adverse childhood experiences that she's 673 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,560 had. Like she was definitely not 674 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,800 okay. And like if we focus more on 675 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,320 her, we would see that more. But like for her to be like, I 676 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,040 would die for her right now. That means that she doesn't 677 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,920 value her own life. At all. 678 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,200 Well, she values I's life more is the thing. 679 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,880 I don't think it means that she just does not value her life at 680 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,240 all. It means that that's how much 681 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:19,240 she loves I and that's how like indebted to I she feels because 682 00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,960 she's like, I would have died if she hadn't intervened. 683 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,400 So we have a life debt now. That's kind of what it reads to 684 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,600 me. It reads like we're in a life 685 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,280 debt and I owe her with my life because she saved mine first. 686 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,840 But I really enjoyed Yams back story and yeah, I agree that. 687 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,920 Was one of my favorite additions to the series was Yams back 688 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,000 story and also her sisterly relationship with I. 689 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,760 Yeah, it was. I loved that so much. 690 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,720 It made so much sense once you found out that what happened of 691 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:52,000 why they shared so much together. 692 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,400 Yeah, exactly. I loved that their relationship 693 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,440 was very big. Sister, little sister and I was 694 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,720 so cute. And I loved getting to see the 695 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:04,560 scene of her, like, finding her, like, running away and just 696 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,400 being like, OK, come with me. Like, no hesitation. 697 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,760 Yeah. Just like I will give you a 698 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,320 better life. I will pay for your medical 699 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,560 bills. Like I literally say it's her 700 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,240 life. Yes, that's the that's where why 701 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,400 Yam is so extreme. And also like Yam is younger, so 702 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,240 there's also that. So she's more immature in a 703 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:25,520 sense or less life experienced. So her reaction's going to be 704 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,480 more extreme versus like G. If you look at G and Maple, the 705 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,840 way they're presented in the in the show is that G is older than 706 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,720 Maple. So it's more like if you were to 707 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:37,000 look at them as a sister dynamic, it's G is the big 708 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,600 sister, May is the little sister. 709 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,000 But then that gets weird because power dynamic wise, May has all 710 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,960 the power and G doesn't. So then it makes their situation 711 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,920 weirder. Whereas like with I and Yam, I 712 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,120 calls all the shots because she's the older big sister. 713 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,160 So out of respect, big sister make calls all the shots. 714 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,720 Also she has all the power because she's the boss. 715 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,800 So what I says goes and yams like, Yep, whatever you say boss 716 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,640 and yes, whatever you say big sister. 717 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,640 Then you go to look at Maple and and G and that's it's a weird, 718 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,400 it's more of a tension driven situation because like GE tries 719 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,120 to be like, I have more wisdom than you in the situation. 720 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,480 And I feel like you need help. And she would try to like 721 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,560 intervene with Maple, Maple be like, I got this. 722 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,320 I know what I'm doing. And it's like would sometimes 723 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,160 not listen to her or like sometimes she would like. 724 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,960 So it creates like less of a like cohesive team because like 725 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,080 there is a power imbalance between the two when it comes to 726 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,320 who has the money and power and who has the wisdom and it it 727 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,720 didn't always like go smoothly. Yeah. 728 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:40,160 And really we've said this during reactions to G should be 729 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,600 running that company. Absolutely. 730 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,680 That's what I mean. She should definitely be a 731 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,360 Jordan. G was so much I was I'm gonna I 732 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,040 was gonna say smarter, but I don't want to say smarter. 733 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,080 Yeah, competent when it comes to business. 734 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,960 Yeah, rather than because she has that more like long term 735 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:04,000 thinking she has. She's not motivated by emotions 736 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,600 where Maple is. Yes, because they wrote Maple to 737 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,440 be mature. Yeah, exactly. 738 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,440 It all goes back. It all goes back to that, that 739 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,600 character flaw that I don't like that they gave her. 740 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,480 But yeah, no, yeah, it definitely makes Maple read 741 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,760 differently. And I in a way that I don't like 742 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,720 because I thought she was a very good character the way the the 743 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:29,000 original author wrote her. And it made her more business 744 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,080 savvy than she seemed to be, even as somebody who's new to 745 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,360 it. And she was aware of her 746 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,240 limitations, like, like the Maple in the the novel was more 747 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,840 self aware. This one. 748 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,200 It was like G had to make herself aware, like make Maple 749 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,640 self aware. And Mabel didn't always want to 750 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,000 hear it, which is like a child thing. 751 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,640 Yeah. So it was like it made her 752 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,280 childish sometimes, which it was frustrating as a viewer to 753 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,360 watch. And very frustrating for Jay 754 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,960 too, because like, her career was on the line. 755 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,800 And again, with the power dynamic, she's like, I know what 756 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,160 you need to be doing for me to keep my job and you to keep my 757 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,880 job, but you're ultimately my boss and can say no to me. 758 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,680 But then I get in trouble when you do bad things like. 759 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,040 And like the that's. Shitty. 760 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,840 That's life too. That's really shitty to be in 761 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,040 that situation. I cared about Yam and her 762 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,040 career. I don't think Maple cared about. 763 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,000 No, not again. They have a very different 764 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,360 sisterly situation where is like big sister is looking out for 765 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,640 little sister with I and Yam. So like I was invested in Yam's 766 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,360 life in a big sister kind of way versus like, again, Maple is 767 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,040 little sister trying to prove herself to big sister. 768 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,720 So there is no I take care of you. 769 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:38,280 It's like based on the age it wouldn't make sense. 770 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,160 So that's, I mean they have a different sisterly dynamic. 771 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,440 However, like, she got the job to take care of her. 772 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,440 Like 'cause like that's literally what she tells her. 773 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:52,400 Like, oh, why don't you come work for like and take care of 774 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,280 me, right? Big sister, take care of little 775 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:55,920 sister. I will hire you to be my big 776 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,000 sister. So yeah, the little sister is 777 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,720 not expected to like, look out for the big sister in the same 778 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,520 way. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I mean. 779 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,000 Like they they have a different sister dynamic. 780 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,040 Yeah. It's just, it reads differently. 781 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,760 It just. Really sucks for G 'cause I know 782 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,120 no one is looking out for her until we get Yam. 783 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,000 Comes into. Play because I love that. 784 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,560 That's something I loved about them is their dynamic is so 785 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,800 great because they truly took care of each other. 786 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,040 They did. Out for one another and we see 787 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,400 that like it's slowly and then full force. 788 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:34,280 But I love when Yam gets G to open up and this like they do a 789 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,760 lot of meetings at bar like not actual meetings but like they 790 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,000 meet up at. The bar and then then they're 791 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,360 just they don't even get to go to the gay bar. 792 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,080 They're just like at a bar. I know I. 793 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,840 Wanted to see them at the gay. Bar so bad. 794 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,080 Where's the Where's the gay bar for the like? 795 00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:48,960 Did they? Yeah. 796 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,240 Why didn't they get invited to this fancy bar? 797 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,680 I will say it is a gay friendly bar because at some point they 798 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,400 kiss and everyone's excited for them. 799 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,240 So like, it's gay friendly but they didn't get to go to an 800 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:01,120 exclusive gay bar so they got robbed. 801 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,600 But there's one scene, and I love this so much, when G asked 802 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,360 for a shot of vodka and yam just comes up behind like make it 4 803 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,640 my. God, she was intense. 804 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,880 Not 24. She's so intense. 805 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,560 She is a person at zero to 100. I love yam. 806 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,680 For that and then in that same scene I love, she does the 807 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,560 glasses thing where she takes off her glasses, but it doesn't 808 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,840 work. No. 809 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,000 And that's why I. Love it, I love it and then. 810 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,280 She's like, OK, And they redo that in the one of their last 811 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,080 scenes and she's like, is this the person you're looking 812 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,560 forward taking the glasses off? And she just still doesn't 813 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,040 respond to her G still doesn't respond to her. 814 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,040 So she takes her hair, puts her hair down, and she's like, how 815 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,480 about this person? She does all the cliches and 816 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,400 then she goes. Running and dancing in the 817 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,320 middle of everybody and it's so funny. 818 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,000 I love her so much. I. 819 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:03,760 Love her, she's hilarious. Oh my gosh, I will say the other 820 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,200 thing about them is that in another life, G would have made 821 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:13,480 an amazing bodyguard. Oh my gosh yes no GG is a badass 822 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,680 who gives all the bodyguards and only you a run for their mind. 823 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,560 Seriously. Really. 824 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,520 Like she was more of a bodyguard than anybody in that show, and 825 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,080 that was about bodyguard. That that came, it seems like it 826 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,960 came out of nowhere too, because we've never seen her do anything 827 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,800 like that. It sure didn't come out of 828 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,240 nowhere, but you're like, damn girl. 829 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,600 No, I mean, she defends her a couple of times, but I was like, 830 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,200 that was just some professional shit. 831 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,560 You just did that. Like seems beyond like I did a 832 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,520 self-defense class once and yeah, I know. 833 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,760 It's like it seemed like you were professionally trained. 834 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,560 It's like she's been training her whole life for. 835 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,160 That moment and I'm not complaining at all. 836 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,240 If I have to suspend my disbelief for anything, it's G 837 00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:54,800 kicking men's asses. Yes, give me more scenes like 838 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,200 that. I'm I'm fine with that. 839 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,640 That was a great addition. Whoever made that call, thank 840 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:03,040 you very much. And then going back to like them 841 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:08,000 taking care of each other. I really liked when Yam was just 842 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,480 like rock bottom with the fact like she didn't want to hurt I 843 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:18,200 and like she like attempts to walk off the roof. 844 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:22,920 I didn't like that part, but I like that G was right there and 845 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,800 like pulls her back and was just like, OK, let's be there for 846 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:38,400 each other And and and just. And then when again G like takes 847 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:48,280 care of Yam and she sees Orient or Rihanna's the numbers and 848 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:55,040 like takes photos of everything. And then Yam explains why she is 849 00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:00,280 so committed to I and how she would give everything to her. 850 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:05,360 Like she literally saved her and she just connects with G so much 851 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:12,080 and you see G and her feelings grow even more for Yam. 852 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,120 And like the minute that she deleted all those photos for 853 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,720 that was good. I'm still not convinced that 854 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:22,240 it's not in that cloud. But also it just made my heart 855 00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:27,320 so happy because like, finally we see them just caring about 856 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,360 their relationship. And I felt so bad in the morning 857 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,200 for G when, yeah, I was just like, let's forget it ever 858 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,480 happened. We can't be together. 859 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,840 I was like, oh, but G was finally opening up to somebody 860 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,960 and letting herself have something. 861 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,720 And it's not just based on work. Like this was outside of work. 862 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,240 Which they both needed, but I what I didn't like about their 863 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,400 narrative is the fact that they're like our bosses aren't 864 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,160 together. No, we can't be together. 865 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,040 Yeah, that's the one thing I hate because. 866 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,880 Like why do you have? To base, this is what happened 867 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,640 with the side couple in Love design too. 868 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,360 Yes, I know. And it's pissed me off so. 869 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,520 Weird, it's just like lazy writing if I like you could 870 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,120 become anything else to separate them. 871 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,240 You're just like, well, the main characters are part, therefore, 872 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,040 yeah, the. Yeah. 873 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,840 And the ending when they're like our bosses are back together, we 874 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,840 should get back together too. And not it that it doesn't stop 875 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,480 there. She's like, and I don't think 876 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,760 that they're going to break up again. 877 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,840 That should not be the basis of your relationship relationship. 878 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,320 You are different people. And you wouldn't. 879 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,840 Yeah, that was the one thing I did like. 880 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,000 But, and again, you can't be like, well, the novel, they were 881 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,120 not together with the novel. So this was a show thing. 882 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,200 I really I don't like that. I don't like that trope for the 883 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,520 side bitches. Yeah, why is that a trope for 884 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,680 the side bitches? That they cannot be together if 885 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,640 the main couples. And they have to model their 886 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,440 relationship. After the main couple. 887 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,480 That's crazy. Yeah, I didn't like that part. 888 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,320 Either have them be their own people, have their own stories, 889 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,240 or just make them the two-dimensional. 890 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,800 Yeah, like characters that like poisonous love make them they 891 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,880 all when they have conversations, it's only about 892 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,000 the main couple. They never talk about 893 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,520 themselves. You couldn't tell me what those 894 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,760 characters favorite colors are for the save your life. 895 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,960 Like it's like, yeah, that kind of stuff, their sounding boards 896 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,120 and their exposition and that, you know, versus like having 897 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,720 them be actual human beings because like Yam and G had their 898 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,560 own story going on that was independent of Eye and Maple. 899 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,640 But then the writers like no, no, no, no, no, it's the same. 900 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,560 And it's like what? You just showed me that it 901 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,960 wasn't. I could give me whiplash here. 902 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,600 Yeah, and I mean, I talked about all the times, like G took care 903 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,760 of like, all the time that G took care of Yam. 904 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,240 But like, the scene where Yam stays all night unless G just 905 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:48,440 sleep on her outside the apartment. 906 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,160 First of all, she could have dragged her into the apartment, 907 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,960 but like, she just willingly let herself get eaten by mosquitoes. 908 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,840 I don't know how G didn't get my eaten. 909 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:05,400 Because Yam was swatting the. All right, anyway, anyway, it 910 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,280 was just, it was very sweet. It was sweet. 911 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,400 All right, one more aspect of Harmony's Secret that I want to 912 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,240 get into, and then I'll wrap up this up with my favorite scenes. 913 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:18,800 Some of them overlap the way you said, but last element of 914 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,960 Harmony Secret that I really loved about the series in 915 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:27,320 particular is that I read as a shadow daddy. 916 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,240 OK, if you really think about it, OK. 917 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,360 Because yes, if you are not familiar with that term, it's 918 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,400 like a character book trope, usually in heterosexual 919 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,800 relationships, but not exclusive to that. 920 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,400 So shadow daddies are usually a trope, and it's characterized as 921 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,960 a character that's broody, a little dangerous, monogamous, 922 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,600 will destroy the world and themselves for their woman, and 923 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,840 that is I. Yes, it definitely is and. 924 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,040 I'm into that. I'm like, she reads like a 925 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,520 shadow daddy, which is really fun because she's broody, little 926 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,880 dangerous, very monogamous and will kill anyone for May. 927 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,480 And I just love that about her characterization. 928 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,680 It made it. If you read it with that lens, 929 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:17,320 it's a very fun story and it makes it makes her even gayer. 930 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,680 Like honestly, like she's one of the gayest characters ever in 931 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,320 anything. I'm. 932 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,640 Sorry, I think that makes our spoiler for our reactions if you 933 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,440 ever watch them. I think it makes the vampire 934 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,800 theory even more plausible. There you go. 935 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,600 Probably where I got it from. OK. 936 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,480 And so with that, I want to move on to my favorite scenes. 937 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,680 OK so my favorite scenes in Harmony secret, and this is a 938 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,040 list in no particular order is anytime May thought she was 939 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,520 being sneaky and I was 5 moves ahead of her. 940 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,800 So like, all the time, yeah. So like every scene is my 941 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,840 favorite scene. I also loved anytime I would 942 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,360 speak in double entendres and to explicitly explain to May 943 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:06,240 exactly how she was going to fuck her and Mays flustered 944 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:11,080 reactions were always priceless. I love it. 945 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:16,680 I doesn't multiple times she's like, well, you know, just like 946 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,840 when I make drinks, I take my time. 947 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:23,280 It's like and you're just like girl and he's like, why do you 948 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,760 talk like this? She's trying to fuck you girl 949 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,720 and you're clearly into it because you pick up on it pretty 950 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,960 fast. But the shameless way she does 951 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,960 that, it's very shadow daddy behavior. 952 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:40,600 Also I love any time G and Yam took care of each other like you 953 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,440 mentioned Caitlyn. And to your point, this and to 954 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,560 continue the scene where they spend the night with each other 955 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,640 the morning after where they were eating kanji together and 956 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,440 being cute. Yeah. 957 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:59,320 Love that warms my heart. I love anytime G literally kicks 958 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,840 men's asses. That is a one of my favorite 959 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:08,080 scenes and then I have my absolute favorite scene. 960 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,360 Actually, I saved it for last is eyes ultimate shadow daddy 961 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,120 moment. OK, it's when it clicked for me. 962 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,960 I was like she's a shadow daddy. I just I just she's coded that 963 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,440 way for some reason. Whoever did that good job, 964 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:20,680 whether it was intentional or not. 965 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:28,240 OK, so it's the scene where but she's waiting for May in the VIP 966 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,200 room of Auntie A bar. OK, she's in the VIP room. 967 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,640 She's by herself and she's smoking a cigarette. 968 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,120 It's the only time you see her smoking. 969 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,240 OK? And then May shows up and finds 970 00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:40,680 her smoking in there, just like being broody and looking off 971 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,400 into the distance. And then May comes in and takes 972 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,400 the cigarette away from her and is like scolds her for smoking 973 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,040 and she's like, what the fuck are you doing this? 974 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:54,120 And then I says my mouth is bored when you're gone, But then 975 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,360 May kisses her and it's like, well, I'm here, so don't be 976 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,320 bored. Like do me instead, basically. 977 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,880 And then the shadow daddy moment is after. 978 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,160 May basically gives her permission to do that because 979 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,080 respects women juice as part of being a shadow daddy. 980 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:15,800 And the way eyes female gaze roams Mae's body and the way she 981 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,520 puts her hand, like where she places her hands on Mae's hips 982 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,880 as she like slowly rises to like kiss Mae. 983 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,720 It's like straight out of the steamiest romanticy novel you 984 00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:31,040 can ever read the way she did that like everything about AI's 985 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,400 body language in that scene reads as respectfully possessive 986 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,440 and shamelessly thirsty, which is very shadow daddy behavior. 987 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,880 And that's what I click for my this is a shadow daddy scene. 988 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,240 Like just look at her. She's being broody and then like 989 00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:46,760 possessive and then like shamelessly thirsty for only got 990 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,560 eyes for you kind of thing. Top tier romance. 991 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,400 That's what make the show great. Like they have a very good fun 992 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,640 relationship that's very fun to watch. 993 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,080 The thing that did surprise me about the show, and I'm kind of 994 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,360 glad is that they didn't have like an explicit sex scene the 995 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,360 way they did an affair. Like I'm surprised they did it 996 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,760 like they have like a bathtub scene they cut, then they just 997 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:16,200 hard cut to like the pillow talk afterwards. 998 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,320 I'm just surprised, given the premise of this show, that it's 999 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,680 basically about like a hookup kind of situation. 1000 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,280 They don't have the hookup scenes and I'm not mad. 1001 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,320 About it, I'm really well if they didn't, if Mabel didn't 1002 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,640 stop, I in the room when she's like let me hear you. 1003 00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,240 I feel like that would have been the time, but we stopped. 1004 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,640 Yeah, but like they never, when they do actually have their 1005 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,280 first time, there is no sex scene really. 1006 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,600 They just get in the bathtub together and make out for a bit 1007 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,680 and that's kind of it. I'm just surprised, given that 1008 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:52,000 this is like a heightened romanticy esque type of story, 1009 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,240 that they don't have a sex scene. 1010 00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:56,120 It's kind of interesting, but again, I'm not mad about it. 1011 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,920 I thought the scenes we got were really good. 1012 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,080 It was a very fun story. I really loved it. 1013 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,440 There were some weird things that they changed, but like 1014 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,600 overall I love the show. Like I thought it was very fun 1015 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,160 and it's very rewatchable. I, as somebody who has rewatched 1016 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,440 it multiple times and like had fun with the rewatch is like I 1017 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,320 thought it was very good. And the music, I listen to the 1018 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,160 music from this, this series, all of it, like literally on a 1019 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,120 daily basis, like all the songs, they're so beautiful. 1020 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:31,200 They are all right. Do you have any other points for 1021 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:36,080 why you love Harmony Secret? Because it brought us here today 1022 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,680 talking about it. That's why I love it. 1023 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,000 It brings people together. It does. 1024 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,920 OK, so before we jump into why you at home love Harmony secret, 1025 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,360 I think we're going to wrap up our segment with big energy 1026 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,600 award. So I'm going to give mine to 1027 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:58,000 eyeshadow Daddy moment because Oh my God I'm into it. 1028 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,080 I have a tie OK and it's either a yam letting G sleep on her 1029 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,040 outside the apartment. And that was ridiculous. 1030 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,600 First of all, she also got to keep her close and sleep like 1031 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,200 her head was like right on. Her breasts were a pillow that 1032 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,480 night. But also it's little gay energy 1033 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,360 because the reason we're in that situation is cuz Yam is little 1034 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,040 G. The little gay was letting the 1035 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,680 big gay sleep on top of her, which is cute. 1036 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,560 And the other scene is when I tells May that she wants to hear 1037 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,120 her. My God, yeah. 1038 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,760 That was so much big energy. And then any time I was 1039 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,840 speaking, a double entendre, Yeah, about how she's gonna fuck 1040 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,600 May. She does it multiple times. 1041 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,080 I just, I has a ton of like if there was a character I had to 1042 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,120 award the most big gay energy to, I think we had a poll going 1043 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,080 on at some point and she wasn't on the list and I was like that 1044 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,000 character, it's the most big game. 1045 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,680 She has the most big energy. Well, we did. 1046 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,560 We ran the poll for Big A, which show has the most big energy? 1047 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,080 And we didn't watch Harmony Secret at the time. 1048 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,880 It was Harmony secret because of this character. 1049 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,040 That's yeah. OK. 1050 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,960 And lastly, what Taylor Swift song for you encapsulates 1051 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,920 harmony secret? All right, so I think I'm going 1052 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,960 to go with. I knew You Were Trouble, yes, 1053 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,480 but I'm going to put in parentheses but not in a bad. 1054 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:22,080 Way. Yeah. 1055 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,160 No, not in a bad way. Yeah, she's a shadow daddy. 1056 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,360 They're both trouble, but you know what? 1057 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,040 That's. Well, yeah, it's for both. 1058 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:33,200 Of them, I know I'm going to go with Wonderland, which is one of 1059 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,640 my favorite Taylor stuff songs ever. 1060 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,320 It's basically a take on like Alice in Wonderland, how you get 1061 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,160 in this relationship and it's just like, it's like stepping 1062 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,360 into another world and nothing's as it seems and things like 1063 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,160 that. And so to me, that encapsulates 1064 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,480 them because it's like they kind of got so wrapped up in each 1065 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,000 other that they got sucked into this like scenario where like 1066 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,400 they kind of had to have a secret relationship. 1067 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,280 And like then like the business stuff was getting entwined. 1068 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,400 So it's like we found Wonderland, we got lost in it 1069 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,480 like in our relationship, and then like kind of had to get 1070 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,760 back to reality to deal with the business stuff. 1071 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,000 So I think that encapsulates them pretty well. 1072 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,120 That's a very fun song. All right. 1073 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,920 So before we go to our listener comments, we have to take a 1074 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,880 quick break to give some shout outs to our Chaos crew over on 1075 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,960 Patreon. Our. 1076 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,600 Chaos crew members on the big gay rider die tier and above are 1077 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:35,080 are a mix monzone under score multi BJR Danny Isla here for it 1078 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:40,120 Jasmine O, Jill L, Cassie M, Kelsey S, Leona Leona, Michelle 1079 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,400 G, Monet F. Moving forward leading Nancy D, 1080 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:50,160 Puja, SQ432, Regina B, Sarah B and Verjevicin and our featured 1081 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:54,920 Big Gay support members for this episode are Lily C, Jada G and 1082 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,480 Rag. Yay. 1083 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,760 Thank you. Thank you so much for all of 1084 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,480 your support and again, once again, thank you to everybody 1085 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,960 listening and watching this because without you, we couldn't 1086 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,840 do this. So thank you Do all the things 1087 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,280 that you know to support us because that's you don't have to 1088 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,800 be a Patreon member. Not everyone can be in this 1089 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,200 economy, that's totally fine. We understand. 1090 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,040 We see you comment below so we can thank you. 1091 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,720 And if you had, if you didn't have a chance to participate in 1092 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,640 our social media polls about why you love Harmony's Secret, leave 1093 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,200 us a comment under this episode telling us why you love 1094 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,000 Harmony's Secret. Because we really want to know 1095 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,360 why everybody loves it because there's a lot of reasons. 1096 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:38,360 All right. And with that, let's jump into 1097 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,400 our listener comments. So we'll start first with 1098 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,440 Patreon. So first and foremost is Cassie 1099 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,920 M, who writes. In short, the ladies can 1100 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,400 overplay a script which more than once forgot what they added 1101 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,280 while adapting. Because it was like Glee. 1102 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,880 Because the novel was much more innocent. 1103 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,320 OK, maybe causing characterization that didn't 1104 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:02,400 feel altogether. I agree with that. 1105 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,320 The chemistry of LMSY was as good as an affair where the plot 1106 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:13,960 at times made less sense and Lily Bell were a charismatic 1107 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,880 side couple deserving of more screen time and less clunky 1108 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,200 resolution. Agreed. 1109 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,160 And of course, the OST was fire secret deal with its ethno EDM 1110 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,640 references. While I prefer the novel to the 1111 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:30,560 TV show, I don't mind watching it once or twice or thrice or :) 1112 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:34,360 Yeah, I know it's so good. Like exactly, that's what I'm 1113 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,680 saying. And I agree with the novel. 1114 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,720 I prefer the novel. Well, like I, you know, I'll get 1115 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,840 into that when I talk about the novel because there are things I 1116 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,760 like things I don't like, but so like together they're good. 1117 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,720 I, I highly suggest if you haven't read it, go read it 1118 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,120 because it really is. It's similar enough and then 1119 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,400 different enough to make you like, love it, love aspects of 1120 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,200 it, and then appreciate other aspects of the show that aren't 1121 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,680 in it. And it's like they're good 1122 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,840 comparisons. I would say both very, very fun. 1123 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,960 The relationship is so fun both ways. 1124 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:06,720 Awesome. All right. 1125 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:11,040 Our next comment is from Q432. And they said the chemistry of 1126 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,280 look, me and Sonia was electric. As expected, they nailed the 1127 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:16,520 yearning tension. Perfect. 1128 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,600 Oh my God, that is like their strong suit. 1129 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,880 Them and fame are like probably the best at that yearning shit 1130 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,720 they're so good at. Well, again, I the shadow daddy 1131 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,840 has that like yearning shit down. 1132 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,760 It's she's an expert. She should really teach classes. 1133 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:38,000 Q 432 continues. Look Me nailed Iwarin as bold, 1134 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,320 strategic, ruthless business heir with emotional 1135 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:49,080 vulnerability. Sonja nailed Maevika as brash, 1136 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,720 self reliant and ego driven personality. 1137 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,160 Both of them nailed the emotional scenes. 1138 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,280 It really did, I liked how they developed assistant storyline 1139 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,960 different from novel, but the ending could have been better 1140 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,320 for their plot line totally. I got the consensus again. 1141 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,600 They just wrote it into the show and I feel like. 1142 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:10,840 They didn't know how to get them back together. 1143 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,200 They shouldn't have broken them up because. 1144 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,680 Agreed, I think they shouldn't have broken them up in the 1st 1145 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,040 place and then we wouldn't have had to do that. 1146 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:17,600 Yeah, they should have just been together the whole time. 1147 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,960 I think they were an afterthought in the script and 1148 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,360 you know, shit happens when productions are, I don't know, 1149 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,480 the create their crazy schedules that they have where they're 1150 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,760 like, we put this together in three days, like who knows what 1151 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,440 they were dealing with. So like I agree, but like I'm 1152 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,200 also I'm glad we got them as a side couple at all to be honest. 1153 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,880 Lily was fired with her fighting skills, and Belle was refreshing 1154 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,680 she. Was so funny. 1155 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,720 She's so funny. Special mention to the sets and 1156 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,720 wardrobe of the show. Yes, great. 1157 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,200 Job, Thank you. Yeah, I think, you know, like 1158 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,960 the the set, like whoever did the scouting locations and like 1159 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,160 arranging where they were going to shoot, they picked in 1160 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,680 incredible locations, like where they and new ones, yeah, new 1161 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,960 ones for the Thai girl I've seen that we haven't seen. 1162 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,040 But also like like the business setting were greater, the 1163 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,880 greater duty free stuff was happening. 1164 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,400 And then like the beach resort they went to, like they just 1165 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,360 picked really great. And I's apartment was fucking 1166 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,160 awesome. Like the Oriana stuff. 1167 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,360 Like, they did an amazing job with the sads and the wardrobe 1168 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,080 too. Like they were obviously fancy 1169 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,280 ladies who wore fancy clothes, but it wasn't like that 1170 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,840 outlandish weirdly over fashionista type stuff. 1171 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,600 Like it, it read as businesswoman. 1172 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,480 Yeah, for the most part, like appropriate sort of wear. 1173 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,640 Sometimes I was like, man, why are you wearing this to work? 1174 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,640 But like you know, overall was there was a good wardrobe. 1175 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:46,040 Yeah, Q432 said that it really brought the business air vibes. 1176 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,680 Totally. Hair, makeup and clothing like 1177 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,760 fitted suits and chic dresses fit the corporate power play 1178 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,320 theme perfectly. Totally. 1179 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,240 Eyes Wardrobe features serious muted tones like black, dark 1180 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,360 brown, burgundy and white. Shadow Daddy. 1181 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,880 She's a shadow daddy. And a vampire, reflecting her 1182 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,560 composed, strategic and quietly intense nature as the hotel 1183 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,280 Empire air. I would say she's, she's pretty 1184 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,960 intense. I don't know that it's quiet. 1185 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,120 She's pretty well. Yeah. 1186 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,880 She's. Very comfortable with her 1187 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,320 intensity. Yeah, she's comfortable. 1188 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:19,760 With her intensity, yeah, that's an amazing. 1189 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,520 Mae wears bolder, vibrant colors and optimistic styles, flowy 1190 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,880 dresses and chic business wear, highlighting her sweet yet 1191 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,040 demanding side. Contrasting eyes, restraint 1192 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,360 while showing her fragility under pressure. 1193 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,640 The dialogues between leads, especially the gay banter. 1194 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,600 The best they have the best banter. 1195 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:46,000 Eye flustering May both with looks looks and talks with. 1196 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,920 Hilarious to watch. Was hilarious to watch in the 1197 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:53,200 first few episodes. Really was Harmony Secret has 1198 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,840 one of the best OS TS. Preach. 1199 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,240 And then Q432 also participated in a Big Energy award and Taylor 1200 01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:02,560 Swift song. So their. 1201 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:07,680 Big energy award goes to just I Warren existing can't choose one 1202 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,480 moment and that is perfectly valid. 1203 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,200 Yeah, her existence is big energy. 1204 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,480 And then Taylor Swift songs for the show, for I, Warren, 1205 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,840 probably the Archer, and especially the part with who 1206 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,120 could ever leave me, darling, who could stay? 1207 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:28,200 And it mirrors her guarded heart and your mirroring her guarded 1208 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,840 heart. And you're on your own, kid. 1209 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,400 You. Yeah, That's a good one. 1210 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:32,920 Yeah. You are on your own, kid. 1211 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:38,400 I always have been. For I in May, Delicate 1212 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,040 Mastermind and Labyrinth. Yep, those are all accurate. 1213 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,760 Those are good ones. Yeah, definitely. 1214 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,600 Delicate. Yeah, like it too. 1215 01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,640 I don't. I can't remember Labyrinth off 1216 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:55,520 my top of my head, but yeah, thank you so much Q432 for like. 1217 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,760 Participating in everything. Yeah, I know that was a great 1218 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,920 analysis and great reasons to love harmony. 1219 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,200 So thank you for pointing out things that we didn't appreciate 1220 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,120 that This is why we ask you guys for your opinions. 1221 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,360 All right, continuing the Patreon, we have Zori M who 1222 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,040 writes. Look, me and Sonia have one of 1223 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,200 the best chemistry, like best actor chemistry and are arguably 1224 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,880 the best kissers and Thai girl of that's also a fact because 1225 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,880 like the way luck me kisses, it's like she wants to eat your 1226 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,760 face. Like she's very good at it. 1227 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,520 And also love me plays a yearning character really well. 1228 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:27,840 She was made to be a shadow nanny. 1229 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,920 That's all I'm saying. Like she's got the yearning 1230 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,080 down. She does. 1231 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:36,720 She's so good at it. Yeah, she should teach classes. 1232 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:42,280 That's what I'm saying. All right, our next comment from 1233 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:49,200 Patreon is from White Cat 112, and their response is vampires. 1234 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,480 Again, go watch the reactions. Yeah, you have to watch our 1235 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:53,960 reaction videos on Patreon specifically. 1236 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,560 Yeah, on Patreon. Yeah, they are not on the 1237 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,840 YouTube highlights. I got it out. 1238 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,960 White Cat continues. But really, this was quite a fun 1239 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,600 show to watch and yell at the screen at the decisions they 1240 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,560 were making. Yes, yes, agreed. 1241 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,200 All right, last but certainly not least, from Patreon of BJR 1242 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,360 who writes. Even though me and I were the 1243 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,760 undisputed stars of the series, I still want it. 1244 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,000 I still waited each week to see what's happening with the yam 1245 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:25,040 and G Yes, I became so invested in yam and G and then was very 1246 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,840 disappointed to read the novel. Be like, oh man, I don't know 1247 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:28,880 what's going to happen with them. 1248 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,360 They're not in here. There is no Yam and G as a 1249 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,680 couple. Yam was frustrating. 1250 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,120 This is a BJR. Yam was frustrating, but G 1251 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,000 remained respectful of Yam's decisions even when they caused 1252 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,040 G pain. Their backstories were well 1253 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,680 constructed. You can imagine G saving May in 1254 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,840 high school and becoming May's assistant slash bodyguard. 1255 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,480 Yeah, she's a bodyguard. Let's be honest. 1256 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,320 It also seems believable that G would have a difficult time 1257 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,840 getting over her crush on May. Oh shit, is that going on? 1258 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,440 I must have missed that. I I can see that honestly. 1259 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,800 I know there was definitely that where at least looked like it. 1260 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,880 Yeah, because it was like she looked very upset seeing her. 1261 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:14,520 Like when she that scene when they're in the car kissing and G 1262 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:19,240 and Yam are like watching like G looks like she's about to sob. 1263 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,440 That's true. Also. 1264 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:22,600 She's like, damn, I'm about to lose my job. 1265 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,640 I don't know. But yeah, I can say that, okay, 1266 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,520 BJR Yam story was too much of A coincidence, but who cares? 1267 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,960 Yeah, valid eyes, tremendous character came out in her 1268 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,440 treatment of Yam. Yes, my God, yes. 1269 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,200 Eye training Yam to be her assistant was one of the more 1270 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:39,600 memorable and heartfelt scenes in the show. 1271 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,120 Yeah, we didn't talk about that. That was super cute, very sweet. 1272 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,080 And then BGR agrees with us. No wonder Yam ended up loyal to 1273 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:48,720 a fault. Yeah, no, exactly. 1274 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,560 I think that Yam was that that part of all of Yams story. 1275 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:57,120 Like I think setting her up as the extremely loyal assistant I 1276 01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,120 think worked. I agree with you. 1277 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,840 There's coincidence in there, but like, I don't care either. 1278 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,040 OK. And finally, my big gay energy 1279 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,040 runner up award goes to G in a suit. 1280 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,960 Oh, my God, yes. G in a suit, that is that is big 1281 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,680 energy. Or even dressed casual. 1282 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,680 Yes. I is just impossible to knock 1283 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,880 out of first place. Yeah, no, like there nobody 1284 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,960 beats her in terms of big gay energy. 1285 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,160 It's just I, she exudes. It confidently. 1286 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,920 I is untouchable but also yes G in a suit Let us hydrate for G 1287 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:31,120 in a suit cause yes thank you BJR. 1288 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,920 OK, that wraps up our Patreon comments, and now we're going to 1289 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:40,240 head over to YouTube and our. One and only YouTube Yeah our. 1290 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,319 One and only. Our one and only Crimson 1291 01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:46,920 Studios. Crimson Studios, who has a lot 1292 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,080 to say so. I just want to say before I read 1293 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,640 some of this comment, thank you for commenting at all. 1294 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,399 Based on how this comment starts off, we appreciate Crimson 1295 01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:56,080 Studios and we always love hearing your opinions. 1296 01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:57,479 We really do. We really do. 1297 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:02,240 All right, so they said I I don't, but I'm going to be nice 1298 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:08,680 about it and I love that Crimson Studios, I like look me and 1299 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,760 Sonia. This was my introduction to 1300 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,359 them. I haven't seen a fair yet. 1301 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,200 Best of luck to you. But it's similar crazier. 1302 01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,720 Anyway, have fun spoilers. The opening theme was amazing. 1303 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,720 10 out of 10 banger that I listen to all the all the time. 1304 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:31,439 Yes, Iwarn is very gay and I love that but can she? 1305 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,960 I get that you like Maple but like there's better ways to do 1306 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,319 than forcing yourself on her. It gave me. 1307 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,640 Oh, my Citrus flashbacks. Yeah, no, they write her as a 1308 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,600 fucking Predator and it pissed me off. 1309 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,600 Iwedine is not a predator. Yeah, I didn't like that either. 1310 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,160 Crimson Studio. It was very cringy to watch 1311 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,520 those scenes. And they continue. 1312 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,720 I like the side couple, the two actresses had good chemistry and 1313 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,720 I'm glad they are getting a new show together and it looks cute 1314 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,480 and up my alley. Look Me Sonia also are getting a 1315 01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:08,640 cute show too and I'm looking forward to it. 1316 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,680 I'll be brief about why I didn't vibe with it because it's a me 1317 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,320 problem I think, but I think it might be interesting to get a 1318 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,560 perspective of someone who didn't enjoy the show. 1319 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,960 In short, I'm not a fan of rich people. 1320 01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:24,240 That's valid. That's valid. 1321 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,360 No, it's so valid. There's a lot of tight girl 1322 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,280 loves her rich people propaganda. 1323 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,520 Or rich people drama. Yeah, but they're just 1324 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,040 propaganda. It's a lot of rich people 1325 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,440 propaganda to be like, you should feel so bad for them 1326 01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:37,440 because they have so much money that their whole life is like 1327 01:10:37,480 --> 01:10:39,880 ruined by this ridiculous fucking scenario. 1328 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,200 Meanwhile, it's like I'm trying to feed my kids. 1329 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,400 Like, you know what I mean? Like if you were to take Whale 1330 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,480 Store and compare it to this, it's like these are rich people 1331 01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:52,080 problems that like, like the the thing from Kimmy Schmidt, like 1332 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,440 your, your experiences are not universal. 1333 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,200 Yeah, that's what a lot of these shows are that are centered rich 1334 01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:59,840 people. And I'm like, your experiences 1335 01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,160 are not universal. That does not relate to the show 1336 01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:07,840 fully, but like, go watch that The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt 1337 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,440 because it is so funny. I'm so glad the aura got me to 1338 01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:15,440 watch that show because. It's just a great, it's my 1339 01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:18,320 favorite type of humor where it's like this, like quick 1340 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:22,080 witted writing. It's like, yeah, it's a very 1341 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,200 unique style of comedy and it's my favorite. 1342 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,920 It's a hilarious, but yeah, I'm with you, Crimson Studios. 1343 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,800 I feel the same way. I agree with you. 1344 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,520 Crimson Studios continues. I can't relate while I also 1345 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,520 don't think relating to the characters is necessary for me 1346 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,000 enjoying a show. But sometimes it bothers me, 1347 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,960 especially when you mix stuff I don't care about like business 1348 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,200 with it. That's also fair. 1349 01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,360 But it's fair. It's fair, honestly fair. 1350 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,840 Which I'm clueless about and don't care for. 1351 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,400 And I love the honesty that you're saying. 1352 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:51,920 Crimson. Yeah, that's honestly. 1353 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:56,360 Valid, they continue. I also prefer more silly shows 1354 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,400 with less drama and about artists or architects. 1355 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,640 You love that design, don't you? That we don't, I don't know why, 1356 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,880 what they even do. Or scientists. 1357 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,960 Or archaeologists. Or farmers. 1358 01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:10,680 Anything that is in business, please. 1359 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,160 That's honestly fair. That's fair, That's fair. 1360 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,520 And the atmosphere of the whole show just isn't my style. 1361 01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,440 Also fair overall. It's just a taste thing, and 1362 01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:24,000 that's fair. And I love that you were able to 1363 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,600 remove yourself from it. And they just like be 1364 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,840 objectively look at it like, oh, it's just not for me. 1365 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,480 But it's not like you're telling other people like this is a bad 1366 01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:37,440 show, Like you might like it. I so I love this take on how you 1367 01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:39,120 said all of this. So thank you that is. 1368 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:43,320 How I feel about poisonous love. So it is not for me. 1369 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:49,360 OK, Thank you, Crimson Studios. From here, we'll move over to 1370 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,120 Twitter, where our first response is from Justin, who 1371 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,160 writes my favorite moment. Oh, because we asked why do you 1372 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,520 love it? What are your favorite scenes? 1373 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,720 So my favorite moment. And then they left a GIF. 1374 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,240 And it was a GIF of I being a cheeky bastard in the elevator 1375 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:04,720 and flustering the hell out of May. 1376 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,480 So yeah, anytime I would fluster May A+. 1377 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:16,600 Our next comment is from, Look, me Sonia's Addie. 1378 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,920 Like attorney. Yeah, got it. 1379 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,040 All right. LMS wise like attorney. 1380 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,200 Yeah, all right. And they said, bestie, I'll be 1381 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:30,960 tuning in just so I can hear you talk about their amazing OST and 1382 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,920 why it is such a pity we never got a music video for A Secret 1383 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,000 Deal AKA the unskippable opening. 1384 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,600 Yes, thank you for bringing. This up because why the hell 1385 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,680 does there no music video for this We have music videos for 1386 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,600 most random OS TS. That's true like super random 1387 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,280 ones OK that like aren't the opening credits of a series They 1388 01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,600 just like dropped the midway through the series Where the 1389 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,320 hell was the why was there no music video for this? 1390 01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:02,600 This is the most music videoable OST ever and there's they're 1391 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,480 like the opening sequence. You have to watch the opening 1392 01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:10,040 sequence to like get the song. Like that's the closest thing 1393 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,680 you get to a music video, which it's a great opening sequence 1394 01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:18,320 first of all of every episode. But like really like I feel like 1395 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:22,280 that was an actual crime that there's no music video to secret 1396 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,360 deal like a pop song. What the? 1397 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:26,480 Hell yeah, I know. That doesn't make sense. 1398 01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:28,320 You could do so much with that song I. 1399 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,360 Know it's that's what I mean this is the song that most 1400 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:34,600 compatible with the music video and like there's there isn't 1401 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,160 fun. You're their attorney. 1402 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:43,080 Sue them for well, he wants to be key witnesses. 1403 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,560 We'll we'll testify because like, that was some fucked up 1404 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,640 shit. Yeah, no, it was. 1405 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,920 It's the Best Song. Like it really is. 1406 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,440 It's just so good. And like, again, they they like 1407 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,080 again, Sonia has the voice of an Angel. 1408 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,560 Luck me rapping was great. Like they they just complement 1409 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,480 each other really well when they have their duets. 1410 01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:03,200 And like the song was just so good. 1411 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,880 And just again, all the OS DS were phenomenal for this show. 1412 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,800 I cannot say that enough. Just all of them are beautiful. 1413 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:15,120 But yeah, sue them. Let us know, all right? 1414 01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,240 Next we have from Twitter. We have only fax who writes. 1415 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,400 One of my favorite moments is when Meiwika calls Iwine when 1416 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,440 she's working out in episode 4. That was fucking the way she's 1417 01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:24,920 like, put your camera on now, bitch. 1418 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,880 And like, I was like, what? Like I guess. 1419 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,080 She doesn't know about the bug at that point, so it's like. 1420 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,160 Even weirder. It's so weird, but she's such a 1421 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,600 whipped shadow daddy. She's like, I guess you want to 1422 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,440 look at my abs? She's like, oh, that was 1423 01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:41,440 hilarious. She's like, I won't break up 1424 01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:42,560 with you if you don't do this right now. 1425 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:46,560 And she's like, this is OK. And you emboss me around the way 1426 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,360 I was just like, OK, boss me around. 1427 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,480 I guess I got nothing. That was hilarious. 1428 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:58,360 All right, our next comments from PY and they said the 1429 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:04,120 soundtrack in relation to the narrative, the women's bar and 1430 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:08,960 their overall chemistry. Yeah, yes, those are facts 1431 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,000 you're saying. Next we have Ray Jor, who writes 1432 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,240 the moment in episode this moment in episode 2, and they 1433 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:19,680 put in the screenshot in their reply, which is I in May in the 1434 01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:24,080 car right before May kisses. I yes, that scene was awesome 1435 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,360 because that's when I was like, yeah, this is as mutual as I 1436 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:30,320 thought it was, bitch. And Major continues this moment 1437 01:16:30,440 --> 01:16:33,160 that I just just described as freaking cute and a bit cheeky 1438 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,880 because I already tries to make my week a Moody so hilarious. 1439 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,480 She does. She tries to she baits her into 1440 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,040 kissing her just fucking funny. And then she's like, yeah, 1441 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,920 people who are trying to like experiment don't kiss like that. 1442 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,080 I'm pretty sure you have feelings. 1443 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:48,920 And she's like, God damn it, bitch. 1444 01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:53,680 I mean, I do, but whatever. My favorite part of that scene 1445 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,200 is when the they cut to the assistants and the assistants 1446 01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,120 are like, what the fuck? Yeah, I know that. 1447 01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,320 That is my favorite. It was so funny. 1448 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,040 Good editing joys though. That whole scene is really good. 1449 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,160 Although like, I don't understand in that scene why I 1450 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,200 would even had to unbuckle May's seat though. 1451 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,760 But she was like, and then May's like, oh, wait, OK. 1452 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,440 She's like, what you gonna do about it? 1453 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,640 I guess kiss you. I don't know what else to do. 1454 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:19,400 There is nothing. Else to do? 1455 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,160 There's nothing else to do that was the right answer. 1456 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:28,800 The next comments from Deion, just because it's LMSY, look at 1457 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,360 me Sonia, it already makes me excited and that's fair. 1458 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,320 That's fair. They're just they have fun 1459 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:35,560 projects. They do. 1460 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,880 Next we have Apple de Leon, who writes everything because of 1461 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,840 LMSY. So there seems to be a pattern 1462 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,120 here and a consensus, yeah. Just a bit. 1463 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,280 Just a bit there is the yeah, there's the pattern. 1464 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:55,840 All right, next is from Veru Guti LMSY fan that the series 1465 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,680 has if not the best OST of all girl love series, at least one 1466 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:01,000 of the best ones. No, it is the. 1467 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,200 It is the best one. You were correct the first time, 1468 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:08,520 but we'll just cosign that. We are putting that. 1469 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,680 We need to put that into law. LMS wise attorney, Yes. 1470 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,680 It is law, it's Thai girl Aqua. Well, pinky promise on it and 1471 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,800 everything. They continue the sets, the 1472 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,800 costumes, the authenticity, the acting, everything was spot on. 1473 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:28,520 One of my favorite parts is when I helps May escape from Goin. 1474 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,400 Yes. Oh, yes, yes. 1475 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,520 Fuck that guy. But yeah, no, that was amazing. 1476 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,960 She's like, wait, wait, wait. We can't outrun him because 1477 01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,120 we're women wearing heels, so we have to fake make out with each 1478 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,520 other. Like, yeah, what quick thinking 1479 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,960 she had during that whole thing. It was so funny. 1480 01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:49,080 Yeah, that was a great scene. The whole the whole sequence, 1481 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,800 not just a scene. All right. 1482 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,960 And last lastly from Twitter, we have Chana Lie. 1483 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,640 Chana Lie 21, who writes. I liked episode 7, the scene 1484 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,080 where I finds the listening device. 1485 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:01,760 Oh my God, that broke my heart, man. 1486 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,560 Yeah, we all knew in every episode how much I trusted May. 1487 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,360 But when she found the device, ISPN was overwhelming and 1488 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,280 exploded. I like that scene the most. 1489 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,280 That was a. Who hurt you? 1490 01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,680 Chana Lie 21. Seriously. 1491 01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,840 But that was a that was such a well done scene. 1492 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,800 And like, you're right. It was one of those things that 1493 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,840 like I personally, when I was watching, I was like, when is 1494 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,560 she going to find this? Is she going to find this? 1495 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,200 I don't know. We keep ignoring many things, 1496 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,960 like the fact that I drugs Maple, but like I was like, are 1497 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,960 we just going to ignore the bug? Are we ever going to find the 1498 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,280 bug? And then like so it's always 1499 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,200 this like tension point of like when is I going to find the bug? 1500 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,920 And then I finds the bug and like her heart breaks and it's 1501 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,160 just like that was a it was a good scene. 1502 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:44,560 It was really well done. It was and I just felt so bad 1503 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,640 for her foreshadow Daddy was sad. 1504 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:47,960 I don't like what? She's sad. 1505 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:53,840 Oh my gosh. But anyway, OK, so that was 1506 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,280 Harmony's secret and why we all loved it. 1507 01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,160 There's just so many reasons that we cannot possibly 1508 01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,880 encapsulate them all honestly. So we did our very best to pay 1509 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,360 homage to the series. And like I said, we will have an 1510 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,120 episode that comes out paying homage to the novel and we'll do 1511 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,200 some more comparisons with the series, so. 1512 01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:13,520 Read it seriously and check that out for more Harmony secret fun. 1513 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,160 And we'll definitely be back to talk about hometown romance 1514 01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,160 whenever that comes out because that looks so cute, so wild. 1515 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:23,480 It looks so fun. I'm excited for them to get a 1516 01:20:23,480 --> 01:20:29,320 comedy because like going from a fair to harmony, Secret Affair 1517 01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,160 had more comedy in it for the two of them. 1518 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,720 So it was like, so like they're escalating the goofiness in 1519 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,480 their projects. And so I'm very excited to see 1520 01:20:37,480 --> 01:20:41,360 one that's more comedy focused for them because like honestly, 1521 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,320 they're both very good at it. Like they do play well together 1522 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,880 in comedy, which like not every actors have good comedic timing 1523 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,480 with each other and good dramatic timing with each other, 1524 01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:52,680 but these two do. So I'm very excited to see them, 1525 01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,400 like genre shift, basically. I think it's gonna be very fun. 1526 01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:04,000 All right. And since not since, If you've 1527 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,360 made it this far, we want to know. 1528 01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:10,720 And here's a challenge for you to write in the comments. 1529 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:16,720 Your challenge is to answer if Harmony Secret could crossover 1530 01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:19,360 with any other Thai girl love show. 1531 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:20,880 We'll just limit it to Thai girl love. 1532 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:28,480 What show would it be? And it can be not one that's not 1533 01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:31,480 yet either. Should they put be put in girl 1534 01:21:31,480 --> 01:21:35,760 rules? Oh my God, could they handle 1535 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,120 girl rules? Damn, that's a hard question. 1536 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,560 I don't know, I would have to think on that. 1537 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,400 I'm curious to see what you guys come up with because I don't 1538 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:43,800 have one off. Do you have one off the top of 1539 01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,160 your head? You came up with this question? 1540 01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:46,680 Oh no, I literally. Just came up with. 1541 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,760 Oh my God, can't let it. Damn. 1542 01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,440 You know what, I kind of would like to see them crossover with 1543 01:21:56,440 --> 01:21:58,080 Whale Store just to kind of like. 1544 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,440 What, so they're the villains? No, no. 1545 01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:05,920 I think just like maybe like Mentor, like the store, like, I 1546 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,200 don't know, somehow. Work together. 1547 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,080 There's no way that's working out who All right. 1548 01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:10,800 Who is you? Asked me out. 1549 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,400 I am. I was like, burn the bridge. 1550 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,080 There's no way or though they're friends with Miyana's mom. 1551 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,760 Or like what? What if they like create 1552 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,720 opportunities for small businesses? 1553 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,520 Like what if they use power? I don't know theor. 1554 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,200 There's potential, I mean, if they did something else because 1555 01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,880 like Duty free, the duty free thing is all about luxury 1556 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,360 brands, which doesn't vibe with whale stores. 1557 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:35,680 So they would be a competitor in a bad way to Whale store. 1558 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,040 And again, Miano would be like, let's burn them down. 1559 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:41,160 Which, you know what, maybe that would make Crimson Studios like 1560 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,960 it better if we had the Whale Store fighting up against the 1561 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,880 Harmony secret divisions and if we have a real classism story on 1562 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,480 our hands. Yeah, honestly, that'd be fun. 1563 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,960 Anyway, let us know what you think, leave it in the comments, 1564 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,280 and until next time, hydrate for lesbian Jesus. 1565 01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,160 And get it up all over the place. 1566 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:06,040 Bye. And with that, we've been big 1567 01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,240 gay energy. Thank you for listening. 1568 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,600 We'd really appreciate it if you downloaded this episode and left 1569 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,040 us a review. 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