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today, Theora, today we're. Going to be discussing why we
love the Thai girl love series Harmony Secret Woo.
I thought Caitlin was about to leave us there, so we're about
to get. Weird, can't leave because I am
so excited to talk about Harmony Secret.
Can't leave, won't leave. Yes, that's right.
So this will not be a scene by scene breakdown.
This is going to be an overview of the things we loved about the
series and what our listeners at home loved about it as well.
So thank you in advance to everybody who answered the call
on social media when we asked why do you also love Harmony
Secret? We will be reading out your
reactions or not reactions, your responses during this episode.
So thank you for all those who participated and added to the
conversation of what made this show so great.
If you're looking for more Harmony Secret content from us,
we did react to the entirety of the series.
So you'll find select reactions to a couple episodes over on
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Now, right now, so that yeah, so that's available to you right
now. And if you're interested in
talking or listening about the novel, we will have a book club
episode that's coming out soon that's going to be focused on
the Harmony secret novel. So it'll be coming out shortly
after this episode. So if you haven't read it, I
highly recommend you check it out because that would be coming
too, because the the novel and the series were they're similar
but different and it's worth getting into both of them
honestly. So that will be coming for you
soon. It's.
Coming for you. It's going to get you.
It will, one way or another. Yes, so all right, and with that
let's we're going to be focusing this episode on this series, OK,
so novel will be its own episode.
This is going to be about the series.
So I will start and I will say that Harmony Secret, just as an
aside, this is one of the few shows I watched in 2025 where I
was really impatient week to week to wait for episodes.
So impatient that I read the novel.
OK, cuz I need to know what the hell was going to happen with
these week to week things like I couldn't.
I was super impatient. And that doesn't happen to me
very often when I'm watching a television series where there's
a novel. Like sometimes yes, other times
I'll read the novel after I'll read it before.
No. This is one of the few shows
where I was like, I can't wait until the next episode.
I need to know I'm going to read the novel.
And I read the novel in like 3 days.
Like I write it really fast. And, you know, she's serious
when I get texts about it. Like, she was so impatient.
So yeah, yeah, I mean, it was. It was hard.
It was a great story. And we made it even better in
our reaction. So definitely go check out
those. All right, where are we
starting? Why'd you love it, Caitlin?
I sorry. Or just popcorn.
I First of all the characters are very intriguing and one of
the most intriguing things about I is the fact that she has a
lesbian bar. Oh, she doesn't just have a
lesbian bar. She has more than one bar,
actually. Check out the novel.
But no, there's there's more than one, but we get the lesbian
bar in the series. And I think it's just really
cool to like, see that we've never seen like a like a queer
bar, I think, right. Not in a Thai girl of, but like,
yeah, like the, like I mentioned this when we were like the
stereotypical gay bar that used to be like, at least in America,
that's like a safe space for queer people.
So there's usually always a queer bar or a cafe like the
Planet and the L Word. Like usually you'd go to a gay
bar because that's where gays congregate in real life.
And so that's been missing from Thai dramas because they're
different countries with different cultures.
So thank you, Kunawei, and for bringing back the gay bar
because, yeah, it's been a while since I've seen a television
show with the gay. Well, also, like, drinking is
falling out of favor as it showed because it's terrible for
you. But the gay bar was like a place
where people could meet and, like, be gay.
So thanks. Thanks for that.
I enjoyed that. And it was a beautiful bar too.
Like fucking sweet. And the way she's.
It's not just a queer bar. It's like women, queer women
only. Yeah.
It's exclusive to queer women. A true safe space for a queer
lady is like. And I love that like, May kind
of had her like gay awakening there 'cause she's this was like
the first time that she was surrounded by queer.
Women that we are aware of or that she's aware.
Of Oh, yeah, I mean, like, but the, the way that she reacted to
it, it was just like she was so out of her element in that
moment and the way she's like, oh, you like women and like she
was just trying to put it all together and then she's headed
and. Then like.
Slowly in her head, I feel like subconscious that she's like, do
I like women? There's a lot of beautiful
people here. And that is the gay agenda.
Thank you, Kunai for keeping it real.
But I do love the cinematography in the show because as Maze or
Maple is like putting it together, it's just like it cuts
to just shots of women like cheers in each other.
I'm like, none of this is inherently A homoerotic, but
like Maze, like this is gay. And it's just like women being
like, yo, that's like not super gay.
No one's making out on tables or anything.
It's just like very tame people chill out at a bar.
And Maple's like, this is gay, which says a lot more about May
than the bar. I don't know how she like jumped
to that because I didn't jump to that when I was seeing it just
looks like people at a bar. She's just like, it's gay.
It's like. Because she was.
It's a women only bar. It was not.
Said that it's a like I said, it was gay.
Lesbian, gay, queer, any of that.
It's a women only, but it just. Her brain went there, which
again, is the central theme of the story.
So she's a late in life lesbian and then eyes not?
I is definitely not I is definitely I is fully
comfortable in her own. She's out proud, basically, not
out proud to her family, but like to the community at large.
Okay, one thing I loved about the series is I just loved how
messy everyone was, particularly I admit, but they were just like
messy adults. OK so first of all, I really
love how I and May go from zero to 100 in their relationship.
I love that. 15. Minutes zero to 100 like they're
like, it's so funny because it's just like messy adults, right?
And this is like a truly the chaotic, messy, yeah as fuck
adult series that I always wanted because it's just that's
all they were doing. They're just being messy,
chaotic adults for most of the time.
I really love it. They're very complicated.
They're fun. They're fun, but very
complicated. I mean by that.
They're complicated in the fact that let's never forget that
Maple bugged eyes apartment even though they seem to forget that
and also that I drugged Maple. OK, OK, I have to say you're
going to have to check out the book club because I give a whole
thesis about how I is not a predator.
And then the series changed some shit, which I guess I'll jump
into now. So the series had some
alterations from the novel and I think some of them like that
were used to just cause more drama, which I don't like.
That was one of the things I didn't like about the series.
I understand why they did it because it literally just causes
drama, but it was a change from the novel that was like it felt
unnecessary and like literally it was just there to cause
drama. So first of all, they wrote I to
be a predator, but like this is and the fact that like this
again, to make it that raise the stakes that oh, she drugged her
and her that never happens in the book.
First of all, In fact, the way it goes out in the book is
glorious. Can't check it out.
And and like they make her predatory and then never address
it ever. Like we don't ever address it.
It's like it's there to cause drama for us.
And then like there's no they never revisit it.
OK, And that's not the only thing they did like that other
thing I don't like about the show that they changed is they
made Maple seem more immature than she was actually.
Because in the series, like her main thing is she's as an adult
when we pick this all up, she's so fixated on proving herself,
which is understandable because she's this is her first like
audition, first role in the world of business.
And, and basically her dad's like here you go.
And then all these colleagues that have been looking to him to
lead are now looking at her and and she's competing against her
childhood rival. We'll get into the childhood
parts too, also. But like, so she was had a lot
of pressure to prove herself right.
But in the series, the way they like made that a like negative
flaw for her when she dipped her toes too deeply into that.
So like basically she would be so fixated on proving herself
that it would blind her. Like for example.
And this most egregious and stupid example of that is when
she meets Ratchet behind eyes back.
That. That's what I mean, that never
happens in the novel. And like, it's because she's
blinded by her ambition and stuff.
And it's like they, and again, why was it there to cause drama?
Like, like it didn't make sense of her to do that, but they
wrote her to be almost like less intelligent than she was
actually as a character. Because I really love Maple,
like particularly from the novel.
And it was just like, what are you doing with Maple?
Like I don't like the characters had different reads to me like
having read the novel, which is fine because like this is an
adaptation, it's not a one to one translation from serious to
novel and vice versa. But like, I didn't like that
element of Maple's character in the show because it made her do
stupid shit that she wouldn't have otherwise done.
No, because like, who thinks it's a smart idea for like, oh,
I told me that this guy is dangerous and to never trust
him. And then in the very next
episode, go meet him by herself because she's like.
I don't trust I it cuz like I, they would kept getting into
these like cycles of like were I would try to mentor me Maple.
But then because they wrote her to be so ambitious to a fault,
Maple couldn't take the feedback.
She would take the feedback as being like, you think you're
better than me. And then she would act out
because her character was immature in the series.
And then she would do stupid shit because she's, she's like,
I'm going to get back at I. And it was like, Maple's not
stupid. She's actually really
intelligent, really rational and like would never do this.
And so like being somebody who's read the novel, I was like,
because because again, it's written that way to create
drama. That's it.
And I just, I didn't agree with a lot of these changes, but
like, I it's just to make drama. Another example of that is
Maple's father secretly deceiving her.
That never happened in the novel, by the way.
It's there just to cause drama. And we never address it the same
way we don't address as a predator.
And you know what I think? I think I'm more upset that we
don't address the fact that the dad bribed the doctor to lie to
his daughter. Lie.
To his daughter. Like flat out lied to his
daughter. I think I'm more pissed off
about that and like not resolving that and like him
apologizing for that. She doesn't even know.
She never finds out that that. Wasn't true.
She also never OK, I'm more upset about the eye the eye
thing because she date drugs her.
That's true Yeah. No, no, that's that's really
bad. What's her in danger like that?
Like if I was actually a fucking predator like that would be
fucked like that's so are we never taught?
And maybe she doesn't find that out either, like, you know.
Yeah, that's true. She never finds out.
That she was drugged. We never addressed that and
people never finds out it's fucked.
Yeah, that, that really. Is good stuff.
And then last thing is all the mommy issues.
So OK, in the novel there's no body count.
All the parents are alive. Wow, all the parents are married
to their significant others. I's mom does not abandon the
family. Like they made a lot of changes
like this just to cause drama. And I can understand body count
sometimes because you're like, then I have to cast and Payless
people, which I get that too. And then it's like, we'll just
make her this a sob story. And it makes like Maple and her
dad closer because like, oh, they have each other and I and
her dad. So we're like, they're going to
focus the story on those plot lines.
But then I's mom's plot line was just weird.
It was this weird, like she, but not really.
And like, maybe it's her and it's like, why was this here?
Like it was just it was there to cause weird drama.
But I was like, OK, but like I didn't feel like that was always
necessary. But anyway, those are just some
of my my qualms with like things that were different.
There were some things that were different that I loved in the
series. These were the ones I didn't
super love, but I think they were mostly to cause drama.
I don't understand why I's mom abandoned her to cause.
Drama. Well, yeah, I just.
I like story wise I don't think that I's mom was abandoning I.
I's mom was leaving the dad. That was it.
The the the child belongs to both of them.
Why is it the assumption the woman takes the child like?
No, I know that but like she, he has no time for anyone.
So like that means her daughter is.
He's got money, he can pay nannies, maybe he'll step up and
be an actual dad. Like again, Why is it on her?
Well, I would say the same thing if it was the other way.
Around yeah, I mean, yeah, exactly.
People are adults are irrational too.
Like, whatever. Well, he was like, mom was
cheating on me and had another man, so like, she's like going
to my new family. Men do that shit all the time.
And again, no one's like, why didn't he take the child?
Guys, got another? Family going on, I'm not going
to bring a child like you stay with your dad.
I'll see you later or never again.
This never happened in the novel, so who knows why these
things happen? I think they're there to cause
drama. That's it.
And then give her and then then they can.
They can. The protagonists can then bond
over their mommy issues. That's it.
I think it's really that deep, honestly.
OK, besides that. So one of the one of the things
that I do love about the show is that this is one of the few
shows specifically the tiger love drama, but genre, but like
in general, where I genuinely enjoyed both main characters as
individual people, not just as the couple.
I enjoyed them both as characters.
So I first and foremost, I love how shamelessly gay I what Ian
is. First of all, I love that about
her. Shamelessly gay and also knows
what she wants and stops at nothing to a fault to get what
she wants. I love her confidence, I love
everything about her, but I just #1 so shamelessly gay because we
haven't had a shamelessly out proud queer character.
At least I haven't in media in a while.
So it was very refreshing to see that again.
I was like, yes, thank you, finally.
Usually it's like I have to come to terms of my sexuality or
like, we're chilling normal about it.
She's not chilling normal about it.
I love that about her. And then on the same train, I
loved May's shameless ambition. Like, good for you, girl.
Like, yeah, it blinded her in the show because of how they
wrote her. But like she was so shameless
about wanting to prove herself, wanting to be the leader,
wanting to make a name for herself and her career, like,
And I love that about her. Like I love that.
Like I wasn't super about that. She was just like, yeah, I'm
doing this thing and I'm just supremely good at it.
So I like the the the different elements of their
characterization, like the things that made they were
shameless about or different and fun, and I enjoyed that about
them. I also like the fact that the
way that they use the childhood back story, really, I personally
feel like it enhanced what was going on in the present because
it showed her drive to succeed. Cuz she's like Maple.
Yeah, Maple to succeed because she was beaten out by I in high
school. And like all she wants to do is
to prove herself that she can make a plan, that she can run
things. And so now that is what she's
doing. And that makes it complicated
right now, too, because this is the person who beat her in high
school, and now it's like, oh, is she really just playing me to
be on top again? But yeah, and I agree with that.
It does help kind of it contextualizes why she is mature
about all this too, because it's like this unresolved childhood
thing where it was it was A1 sided rivalry.
Like I was not trying to bait her or like shame her.
But that's how Maple interpreted that whole thing and was like,
Oh yeah, I'm going to get you back.
I was like, she's so pretty. Look at her like she never like
that was never again like that. That's the thing I don't like
about the way they created a childhood back story, first of
all for the series and then, like, used it to, like, create
this lingering tension, which is fine.
But then, like, Maple would revert back to being a child
when she would get into it, when those feelings would come up
again. And it made her do stupid shit,
which I didn't. Yeah, that's fair.
But I get what you're saying. Like it does help contextualize
Maple's ambition, but like also like, you know, being a being a
woman that just got out of her master's degree and is fresh
into her career. Like you also don't need a
tragic back story to understand why she would be ambitious.
Like that's seems like it's been her journey throughout her like
education and stuff. Like same way with I like I was
ambitious, but like not because she had a tragic back story,
because she was just an ambitious woman.
And like I enjoy that about the two of them.
And also Speaking of their like business stuff because like
they're in a, a business setting for like most of the series, not
when they're doing sexy time stuff, but like for the setting
of the plot basically. And what I like about the two of
them as individuals to go back to that is that I love that both
of them were competent leaders. Like I was more experienced when
we start the story, obviously because she's older and been
doing this longer and then May is new to it.
But they're both competent at it because we do get, I like that
they give us scenes with them conducting business.
And you got to see how good they actually were at their jobs.
Like, they're not just, yes, they're neppo babies, but
they're not just neppo babies. Like, they're actually good at
what they're doing. And with that, neither of them
fell into the damsel in distressed rope.
Like, neither of them. Like, yeah, there were times
where I saved Maple from situations because again, she's
older, wiser, more experienced. Also, they were in her hotel.
She knew all the tricks, like made sense.
But Maple was never the damsel in distress ever.
Like she was competent on her own.
Same way with I like also competent on her own.
So I do. Again, that's why I like them as
individual characters. They're both very strong, like
quality characters who can stand on their own, which made them
interacting super fun because they're both they butt heads
sometimes. I think we've got a great
mixture of business and their personal life because they did
not bury the business stuff like they flushed that out.
And that's what something I talked about in when we talked
about love design, like they really talked and like we saw
presentations now that show, I felt like there was a little too
much at times. This show, I think had like a
great, great balance. Yeah, I agreed.
And even like the business stuff created its own storyline drama
of like, oh, the guys are meeting behind their back and
like them sacrificing that poor employee to go spy for them.
I really feel bad for her. Remember when they put her phone
their one of their phones in the server's pocket and went?
Oh. Oh to over get a conversation.
They were OK. When they were snooping on
Ratchet and the other dude from Greater at the restaurant and
then I and May had to like, coerce the waitress to record
their conversation. Yeah, that was fuck.
Oh my God, I really thought there.
I thought there was more going to happen with that and that.
Employee, I was just women helping women.
Yeah, I mean, I'm glad. Nothing happened to her, but I
was really. Scared for a second?
Also it's not insane for a waitress to have her cell phone
on her so like I don't know why they would be suspicious of her.
I hate drama Theora. Just drama.
I guess, yeah. So I'm glad that that worked
out. But like, again, that was them
both being clever and like, in their own way.
And you see that like when they work together, they're more
effective as a team, which I like.
Yes, they together they're balance each other out.
Yes, with like thinking ahead versus just doing 'cause I feel
like I is thinks things out more so and Maple is just like all
right, we do this right now. Just like how when they were in
that meeting and Maple was going in on.
I forget his name, but like she was saying how like she was
fighting back and I stops her and like, pulls her aside out in
the hallway was like, you can't let them know where you are,
like, lose your cool. You can't let them know where
your head is because you'll lose your power.
Something like that. Yeah.
So they definitely level each other out, which I think is a
great business partnership and also a regular partnership
because you need someone to help you become a better person too.
Yeah, no, overall I thought I liked their relationship.
Honestly. I don't like some of the changes
in the series that made it seem more predatory than it actually
was, like from the source material.
But they were very fun. They're a fun couple to watch
because there is a good amount of tension between them that's
related to their situation, which is rival business women.
And then they just have this unresolved or brooding explosive
sexual tension situation happening with them and they're
just so messy and dumb about it sometimes.
And I just love that about them. It's so fun.
It's just very fun to watch them be idiots honestly.
Something else I loved and it goes with the balancing each
other out. Thing is, we get a little, I
guess, social commentary like and it's.
Get what? I don't know if it's social
commentary, if that's the right word.
I couldn't. Hear that word?
OK, social commentary, but it's kind of like they have this
conversation where it's like, the grass is greener on the
other side. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're like, yeah, yeah. Where Maple thinks that, like
the common folk, the street vendors have more enviable lives
and they like, She doesn't understand why these people envy
their I and me. They're like, Oh my God, we work
so hard as. Elite.
People and I was like, have you ever tried starving because
maybe like, what the fuck are you talking about?
I I was happy about that because I was like, this seems like some
elitist propaganda, like propaganda for the 1%.
And then I like that I comes in and.
She's like girl. What are you saying?
You're saying some privileged of shit right now.
Yeah, so like I is like, not I Maple's like they have the
freedom to do what they want without anyone forcing them to.
And then I like just checks her immediately and like, doesn't
even like try to agree with. She's like, but what they don't
have is money and whether we like it, like you have to admit
that money is one of the most important factors in life.
And like, I love that she says this because a lot of times
people are like, oh, money doesn't buy happiness.
Money doesn't do this. Money doesn't.
But it is very important. That's actually propagate.
And like she does remind Maple that she doesn't.
She never had to watch someone she loved get sick and not have
the money to treat them or get food.
Like she doesn't have to worry about these things, right?
And I just as soon as I heard Maples saying this, I was like,
are you kidding me? Are they really going to make us
feel bad for the rich bitches? That's what I mean.
It's propaganda. I'm like, this is 1% propaganda.
And then as soon as she checks, I was like, yes, that is
perfect. And Maple doesn't get defensive.
Well, I also did wasn't like scolding her or like being
elitist in her response to be like, you're so stupid.
How could you say that she was again, throughout this again,
it's missed because you're in Maple's point of view a lot in
the series. But like I tries to mentor Maple
and help her. Like in the novel, it's an
official mentoring thing that happens.
It's not in the series, but like she does try to, like, help her
knowing that like, she's new to this business world.
So they do have kind of like a mentor mentee relationship that
shows up in the series. But it's like very, very
unofficial and very rare because anytime I tries to do it, May
gets defensive because of the childhood back story they wrote
in. Yeah.
So like, this is a good example of like, I in good faith, being
like, girl, have you thought about this?
And then, like, let instead of like lecturing her, she lets Mae
come to her own conclusion. And that method seems to work
better than I just being like yo it'll do that next time.
Yeah, she doesn't really take well to being told.
Not in the series, no. The series, no.
Cuz yeah, she always thinks it's, it's I thinking she's
better than me. And that's like really not.
And that's all we get. Never.
That thought has never crossed eyes, mind.
Ever. That's how we get a Maple
meeting, Ratchet. Yes, that is exactly how we get
there. It is again, she act like a
child sometimes and I really didn't like that because Maple
is a very competent, very common character.
And it's like it makes sense that she would make mistakes and
stuff in the bills in the business from and even with I
too, because like, this is her first, like relationship with
feelings. First of all, it's the first
relationship with feelings with both of them, which I love
because they're both coming from that this from different places.
But they it's new. It's a new territory for both of
them. So yeah, they're going to make
mistakes because this is a new situation.
And also on top of that, Mae is mostly at a disadvantage too,
because she's also entering this business realm for the first
time in this new leadership position.
And the stakes are stupidly high.
And then the dad's antics doesn't help anything.
He just puts more pressure on her.
But so, yeah, it's it's it makes sense that she would make
mistakes or like try to be like, maybe I shouldn't trust I
because, you know, she knows what she's doing and I don't.
And like, it's kind of like her insecurity comes out and then
she does things that like, I think if she wasn't feeling
insecure, she wouldn't have done.
And it was never I's intention to make her feel insecure, but
like that was eyes intention, but that was not Mays
interpretation of the situation. And so it ends up you end up
like The thing is like the thing I love about the story is like
it really didn't need all this extra like manipulation to make
drama. Like the drama just happened
between them because they're in this high stakes situation and
they're both on different levels when it comes to business
experience. And so like mistakes are going
to happen and like misunderstandings are going to
happen. And you know, because they're
they're they're trying to like keep it professional, but then
also they're in this realm together.
And it's like, I can't tell you everything because we're rivals,
but that so like if this, the plot actually had it was very
fruitful for drama that was really good.
But then they like the series was like, let's add more drama.
It's like, didn't we need to do this?
But you know, it was a fun show. Like every episode was very good
and very entertaining. And I was never once bored
watching the show. Like not one second.
It was so good. I was never like tempted to Fast
forward through anything. It was just all of it was good.
That is, that's a great point. No, it was always like, what is
going to happen? Because anything could.
Anything good and you know what else you never Fast forward
through the the OST in the beginning.
Oh yeah. So can we talk about the music
in the show? Because the music period.
They have the best OS TS plural. I know the most famous one is
secret deal because yes, but all of them are so, so good.
If you haven't like sat down and really listen to all of the OS
TS from harmony secret, I highly recommend it.
They're they're sprinkled throughout the show, but they're
so good. Each one was so different than
the other. And Sonia has the voice of an
Angel. I just have to say that her
voice is so beautiful, the way she sings.
So they're just very beautiful songs.
But I mean, kudos to Harmony's secret.
Like you cannot and will not skip the opening title Secrets
because Secret Deal is such a good song.
Yeah, you know it really. It's a it's a great dance song
too. It's AK pop song.
It's fucking awesome. Like it's AK pop song.
OK other thing I want to say about the music besides the fact
that Secret Tale is the the Best Song Ever is aside from the OS
TS. I do have a comment about the
soundtrack in the series. So not the original songs, but
like the music that they played in the background.
So I don't know what happened in post, but they had the games all
the way up on the background music, I guess for drama.
And like sometimes it was way too much, like the music was
like way too loud and way too dramatic for like some of the
scenes, you know what I mean? They always had that really
intense, like, kind of music through, like they would be
having conversations and like, that would be playing and like
they, I think they overplayed that a little bit in the show.
That's fair. Yeah.
And the gains were all the way up.
So it was like loud too. It wasn't just like subtle
background music. But again, I think it was there
for drama and like to emphasize the fact that these are high
stakes business conversations and stuff.
But it was a little too much for me sometimes.
And it's like not life or death some of.
Some of it, well, yeah, like 2 elitist rich people.
It feels like life or death to lose out on a business contract.
But like, yeah, it was like, I think they over over did it
sometimes with that. That's fair, yeah.
All right, so something else that I love very, very much are
our side bitches. Yes, I also love, love, love
them. So this was one of those changes
in the series that only exists in the series.
There is no side bitches in the novel.
Sorry, that's a crime. Sorry to disappoint and like,
I'll get it. I will get into it in the novel
about why it wasn't going to happen as written, but I'm
really glad they existed. But I would have liked more more
of them period. But I understand having read the
novel why there wasn't more of them.
And I understand some critique from people that I watch the
show is like, oh, it felt really weird the way their story
unfolded and stuff. And it's like it's because the
show made them up. Like there is no like source
material to pull from. Like they purely made them up
for the show. Like Yam and G were in there,
Yam and G were assistance to their respective like business
person, but it didn't go beyond that really in terms of the
similarities with the show. So it was like a brand new story
and like, yeah, it wasn't super cohesive, but I would have liked
more of them. But I'm glad we have them at
all. Like is what I'm saying.
Like I loved them and I loved I loved the actors that played
them. They were very funny together.
I'm very happy about their series that they have.
I want to be soup Tar, which is I like it so far.
I just I love them as a couple. I think they're hilarious.
Like they're very good comedian. They have a good like serious,
like sunshine and grumpy like that's very fun, especially in a
comedy. Like that's more of a comedy.
But I love them here. I thought they were great.
Yeah, I wish. I mean, we seem to flesh out yam
a little bit more than GI. Feel like G is more like.
Well, I I feel like it's. More back story is Yam.
Oh G also got the back story that like she was friends with
Maple in like college and like protected her in college from
like date rape like why she was getting drunk.
Yeah, I know. Seriously.
Like that girl? She does have a back story and
we do have back stories. They're just like quicker.
And I feel like, yeah, Yams was my favorite, so it sticks out of
my mind. That's probably what it is, I
think. That's what it is.
But they both had back stories that were brand new that were
not in the novel. And they did kind of like
resemble each other in the fact that I and Maple both got them
to where they are today, right? So it was definitely a very good
contrast with the two. And like makes sense with their
loyalties to their bosses. However, we just we need to
we'll get we'll talk about the back story in a little in a
second, but their that bathroom hostage scene that was crazy.
That was literally. Insane.
Yeah, again, that was just on the show.
That was crazy. That was insane.
But like, and then you understand, like OK, I literally
saved Yam's life so she would quite literally do anything for
her, but she's like, I literally.
Would die for her. I would literally murder
everyone in this room and also myself if it meant helping.
I like that's how extreme her loyalty however I also feel.
Like her mental health wasn't fully.
Like she. Oh no, I mean.
She has so much trauma growing up too, like right.
So like definitely adverse childhood experiences that she's
had. Like she was definitely not
okay. And like if we focus more on
her, we would see that more. But like for her to be like, I
would die for her right now. That means that she doesn't
value her own life. At all.
Well, she values I's life more is the thing.
I don't think it means that she just does not value her life at
all. It means that that's how much
she loves I and that's how like indebted to I she feels because
she's like, I would have died if she hadn't intervened.
So we have a life debt now. That's kind of what it reads to
me. It reads like we're in a life
debt and I owe her with my life because she saved mine first.
But I really enjoyed Yams back story and yeah, I agree that.
Was one of my favorite additions to the series was Yams back
story and also her sisterly relationship with I.
Yeah, it was. I loved that so much.
It made so much sense once you found out that what happened of
why they shared so much together.
Yeah, exactly. I loved that their relationship
was very big. Sister, little sister and I was
so cute. And I loved getting to see the
scene of her, like, finding her, like, running away and just
being like, OK, come with me. Like, no hesitation.
Yeah. Just like I will give you a
better life. I will pay for your medical
bills. Like I literally say it's her
life. Yes, that's the that's where why
Yam is so extreme. And also like Yam is younger, so
there's also that. So she's more immature in a
sense or less life experienced. So her reaction's going to be
more extreme versus like G. If you look at G and Maple, the
way they're presented in the in the show is that G is older than
Maple. So it's more like if you were to
look at them as a sister dynamic, it's G is the big
sister, May is the little sister.
But then that gets weird because power dynamic wise, May has all
the power and G doesn't. So then it makes their situation
weirder. Whereas like with I and Yam, I
calls all the shots because she's the older big sister.
So out of respect, big sister make calls all the shots.
Also she has all the power because she's the boss.
So what I says goes and yams like, Yep, whatever you say boss
and yes, whatever you say big sister.
Then you go to look at Maple and and G and that's it's a weird,
it's more of a tension driven situation because like GE tries
to be like, I have more wisdom than you in the situation.
And I feel like you need help. And she would try to like
intervene with Maple, Maple be like, I got this.
I know what I'm doing. And it's like would sometimes
not listen to her or like sometimes she would like.
So it creates like less of a like cohesive team because like
there is a power imbalance between the two when it comes to
who has the money and power and who has the wisdom and it it
didn't always like go smoothly. Yeah.
And really we've said this during reactions to G should be
running that company. Absolutely.
That's what I mean. She should definitely be a
Jordan. G was so much I was I'm gonna I
was gonna say smarter, but I don't want to say smarter.
Yeah, competent when it comes to business.
Yeah, rather than because she has that more like long term
thinking she has. She's not motivated by emotions
where Maple is. Yes, because they wrote Maple to
be mature. Yeah, exactly.
It all goes back. It all goes back to that, that
character flaw that I don't like that they gave her.
But yeah, no, yeah, it definitely makes Maple read
differently. And I in a way that I don't like
because I thought she was a very good character the way the the
original author wrote her. And it made her more business
savvy than she seemed to be, even as somebody who's new to
it. And she was aware of her
limitations, like, like the Maple in the the novel was more
self aware. This one.
It was like G had to make herself aware, like make Maple
self aware. And Mabel didn't always want to
hear it, which is like a child thing.
Yeah. So it was like it made her
childish sometimes, which it was frustrating as a viewer to
watch. And very frustrating for Jay
too, because like, her career was on the line.
And again, with the power dynamic, she's like, I know what
you need to be doing for me to keep my job and you to keep my
job, but you're ultimately my boss and can say no to me.
But then I get in trouble when you do bad things like.
And like the that's. Shitty.
That's life too. That's really shitty to be in
that situation. I cared about Yam and her
career. I don't think Maple cared about.
No, not again. They have a very different
sisterly situation where is like big sister is looking out for
little sister with I and Yam. So like I was invested in Yam's
life in a big sister kind of way versus like, again, Maple is
little sister trying to prove herself to big sister.
So there is no I take care of you.
It's like based on the age it wouldn't make sense.
So that's, I mean they have a different sisterly dynamic.
However, like, she got the job to take care of her.
Like 'cause like that's literally what she tells her.
Like, oh, why don't you come work for like and take care of
me, right? Big sister, take care of little
sister. I will hire you to be my big
sister. So yeah, the little sister is
not expected to like, look out for the big sister in the same
way. Yeah, Yeah, that's what I mean.
Like they they have a different sister dynamic.
Yeah. It's just, it reads differently.
It just. Really sucks for G 'cause I know
no one is looking out for her until we get Yam.
Comes into. Play because I love that.
That's something I loved about them is their dynamic is so
great because they truly took care of each other.
They did. Out for one another and we see
that like it's slowly and then full force.
But I love when Yam gets G to open up and this like they do a
lot of meetings at bar like not actual meetings but like they
meet up at. The bar and then then they're
just they don't even get to go to the gay bar.
They're just like at a bar. I know I.
Wanted to see them at the gay. Bar so bad.
Where's the Where's the gay bar for the like?
Did they? Yeah.
Why didn't they get invited to this fancy bar?
I will say it is a gay friendly bar because at some point they
kiss and everyone's excited for them.
So like, it's gay friendly but they didn't get to go to an
exclusive gay bar so they got robbed.
But there's one scene, and I love this so much, when G asked
for a shot of vodka and yam just comes up behind like make it 4
my. God, she was intense.
Not 24. She's so intense.
She is a person at zero to 100. I love yam.
For that and then in that same scene I love, she does the
glasses thing where she takes off her glasses, but it doesn't
work. No.
And that's why I. Love it, I love it and then.
She's like, OK, And they redo that in the one of their last
scenes and she's like, is this the person you're looking
forward taking the glasses off? And she just still doesn't
respond to her G still doesn't respond to her.
So she takes her hair, puts her hair down, and she's like, how
about this person? She does all the cliches and
then she goes. Running and dancing in the
middle of everybody and it's so funny.
I love her so much. I.
Love her, she's hilarious. Oh my gosh, I will say the other
thing about them is that in another life, G would have made
an amazing bodyguard. Oh my gosh yes no GG is a badass
who gives all the bodyguards and only you a run for their mind.
Seriously. Really.
Like she was more of a bodyguard than anybody in that show, and
that was about bodyguard. That that came, it seems like it
came out of nowhere too, because we've never seen her do anything
like that. It sure didn't come out of
nowhere, but you're like, damn girl.
No, I mean, she defends her a couple of times, but I was like,
that was just some professional shit.
You just did that. Like seems beyond like I did a
self-defense class once and yeah, I know.
It's like it seemed like you were professionally trained.
It's like she's been training her whole life for.
That moment and I'm not complaining at all.
If I have to suspend my disbelief for anything, it's G
kicking men's asses. Yes, give me more scenes like
that. I'm I'm fine with that.
That was a great addition. Whoever made that call, thank
you very much. And then going back to like them
taking care of each other. I really liked when Yam was just
like rock bottom with the fact like she didn't want to hurt I
and like she like attempts to walk off the roof.
I didn't like that part, but I like that G was right there and
like pulls her back and was just like, OK, let's be there for
each other And and and just. And then when again G like takes
care of Yam and she sees Orient or Rihanna's the numbers and
like takes photos of everything. And then Yam explains why she is
so committed to I and how she would give everything to her.
Like she literally saved her and she just connects with G so much
and you see G and her feelings grow even more for Yam.
And like the minute that she deleted all those photos for
that was good. I'm still not convinced that
it's not in that cloud. But also it just made my heart
so happy because like, finally we see them just caring about
their relationship. And I felt so bad in the morning
for G when, yeah, I was just like, let's forget it ever
happened. We can't be together.
I was like, oh, but G was finally opening up to somebody
and letting herself have something.
And it's not just based on work. Like this was outside of work.
Which they both needed, but I what I didn't like about their
narrative is the fact that they're like our bosses aren't
together. No, we can't be together.
Yeah, that's the one thing I hate because.
Like why do you have? To base, this is what happened
with the side couple in Love design too.
Yes, I know. And it's pissed me off so.
Weird, it's just like lazy writing if I like you could
become anything else to separate them.
You're just like, well, the main characters are part, therefore,
yeah, the. Yeah.
And the ending when they're like our bosses are back together, we
should get back together too. And not it that it doesn't stop
there. She's like, and I don't think
that they're going to break up again.
That should not be the basis of your relationship relationship.
You are different people. And you wouldn't.
Yeah, that was the one thing I did like.
But, and again, you can't be like, well, the novel, they were
not together with the novel. So this was a show thing.
I really I don't like that. I don't like that trope for the
side bitches. Yeah, why is that a trope for
the side bitches? That they cannot be together if
the main couples. And they have to model their
relationship. After the main couple.
That's crazy. Yeah, I didn't like that part.
Either have them be their own people, have their own stories,
or just make them the two-dimensional.
Yeah, like characters that like poisonous love make them they
all when they have conversations, it's only about
the main couple. They never talk about
themselves. You couldn't tell me what those
characters favorite colors are for the save your life.
Like it's like, yeah, that kind of stuff, their sounding boards
and their exposition and that, you know, versus like having
them be actual human beings because like Yam and G had their
own story going on that was independent of Eye and Maple.
But then the writers like no, no, no, no, no, it's the same.
And it's like what? You just showed me that it
wasn't. I could give me whiplash here.
Yeah, and I mean, I talked about all the times, like G took care
of like, all the time that G took care of Yam.
But like, the scene where Yam stays all night unless G just
sleep on her outside the apartment.
First of all, she could have dragged her into the apartment,
but like, she just willingly let herself get eaten by mosquitoes.
I don't know how G didn't get my eaten.
Because Yam was swatting the. All right, anyway, anyway, it
was just, it was very sweet. It was sweet.
All right, one more aspect of Harmony's Secret that I want to
get into, and then I'll wrap up this up with my favorite scenes.
Some of them overlap the way you said, but last element of
Harmony Secret that I really loved about the series in
particular is that I read as a shadow daddy.
OK, if you really think about it, OK.
Because yes, if you are not familiar with that term, it's
like a character book trope, usually in heterosexual
relationships, but not exclusive to that.
So shadow daddies are usually a trope, and it's characterized as
a character that's broody, a little dangerous, monogamous,
will destroy the world and themselves for their woman, and
that is I. Yes, it definitely is and.
I'm into that. I'm like, she reads like a
shadow daddy, which is really fun because she's broody, little
dangerous, very monogamous and will kill anyone for May.
And I just love that about her characterization.
It made it. If you read it with that lens,
it's a very fun story and it makes it makes her even gayer.
Like honestly, like she's one of the gayest characters ever in
anything. I'm.
Sorry, I think that makes our spoiler for our reactions if you
ever watch them. I think it makes the vampire
theory even more plausible. There you go.
Probably where I got it from. OK.
And so with that, I want to move on to my favorite scenes.
OK so my favorite scenes in Harmony secret, and this is a
list in no particular order is anytime May thought she was
being sneaky and I was 5 moves ahead of her.
So like, all the time, yeah. So like every scene is my
favorite scene. I also loved anytime I would
speak in double entendres and to explicitly explain to May
exactly how she was going to fuck her and Mays flustered
reactions were always priceless. I love it.
I doesn't multiple times she's like, well, you know, just like
when I make drinks, I take my time.
It's like and you're just like girl and he's like, why do you
talk like this? She's trying to fuck you girl
and you're clearly into it because you pick up on it pretty
fast. But the shameless way she does
that, it's very shadow daddy behavior.
Also I love any time G and Yam took care of each other like you
mentioned Caitlyn. And to your point, this and to
continue the scene where they spend the night with each other
the morning after where they were eating kanji together and
being cute. Yeah.
Love that warms my heart. I love anytime G literally kicks
men's asses. That is a one of my favorite
scenes and then I have my absolute favorite scene.
Actually, I saved it for last is eyes ultimate shadow daddy
moment. OK, it's when it clicked for me.
I was like she's a shadow daddy. I just I just she's coded that
way for some reason. Whoever did that good job,
whether it was intentional or not.
OK, so it's the scene where but she's waiting for May in the VIP
room of Auntie A bar. OK, she's in the VIP room.
She's by herself and she's smoking a cigarette.
It's the only time you see her smoking.
OK? And then May shows up and finds
her smoking in there, just like being broody and looking off
into the distance. And then May comes in and takes
the cigarette away from her and is like scolds her for smoking
and she's like, what the fuck are you doing this?
And then I says my mouth is bored when you're gone, But then
May kisses her and it's like, well, I'm here, so don't be
bored. Like do me instead, basically.
And then the shadow daddy moment is after.
May basically gives her permission to do that because
respects women juice as part of being a shadow daddy.
And the way eyes female gaze roams Mae's body and the way she
puts her hand, like where she places her hands on Mae's hips
as she like slowly rises to like kiss Mae.
It's like straight out of the steamiest romanticy novel you
can ever read the way she did that like everything about AI's
body language in that scene reads as respectfully possessive
and shamelessly thirsty, which is very shadow daddy behavior.
And that's what I click for my this is a shadow daddy scene.
Like just look at her. She's being broody and then like
possessive and then like shamelessly thirsty for only got
eyes for you kind of thing. Top tier romance.
That's what make the show great. Like they have a very good fun
relationship that's very fun to watch.
The thing that did surprise me about the show, and I'm kind of
glad is that they didn't have like an explicit sex scene the
way they did an affair. Like I'm surprised they did it
like they have like a bathtub scene they cut, then they just
hard cut to like the pillow talk afterwards.
I'm just surprised, given the premise of this show, that it's
basically about like a hookup kind of situation.
They don't have the hookup scenes and I'm not mad.
About it, I'm really well if they didn't, if Mabel didn't
stop, I in the room when she's like let me hear you.
I feel like that would have been the time, but we stopped.
Yeah, but like they never, when they do actually have their
first time, there is no sex scene really.
They just get in the bathtub together and make out for a bit
and that's kind of it. I'm just surprised, given that
this is like a heightened romanticy esque type of story,
that they don't have a sex scene.
It's kind of interesting, but again, I'm not mad about it.
I thought the scenes we got were really good.
It was a very fun story. I really loved it.
There were some weird things that they changed, but like
overall I love the show. Like I thought it was very fun
and it's very rewatchable. I, as somebody who has rewatched
it multiple times and like had fun with the rewatch is like I
thought it was very good. And the music, I listen to the
music from this, this series, all of it, like literally on a
daily basis, like all the songs, they're so beautiful.
They are all right. Do you have any other points for
why you love Harmony Secret? Because it brought us here today
talking about it. That's why I love it.
It brings people together. It does.
OK, so before we jump into why you at home love Harmony secret,
I think we're going to wrap up our segment with big energy
award. So I'm going to give mine to
eyeshadow Daddy moment because Oh my God I'm into it.
I have a tie OK and it's either a yam letting G sleep on her
outside the apartment. And that was ridiculous.
First of all, she also got to keep her close and sleep like
her head was like right on. Her breasts were a pillow that
night. But also it's little gay energy
because the reason we're in that situation is cuz Yam is little
G. The little gay was letting the
big gay sleep on top of her, which is cute.
And the other scene is when I tells May that she wants to hear
her. My God, yeah.
That was so much big energy. And then any time I was
speaking, a double entendre, Yeah, about how she's gonna fuck
May. She does it multiple times.
I just, I has a ton of like if there was a character I had to
award the most big gay energy to, I think we had a poll going
on at some point and she wasn't on the list and I was like that
character, it's the most big game.
She has the most big energy. Well, we did.
We ran the poll for Big A, which show has the most big energy?
And we didn't watch Harmony Secret at the time.
It was Harmony secret because of this character.
That's yeah. OK.
And lastly, what Taylor Swift song for you encapsulates
harmony secret? All right, so I think I'm going
to go with. I knew You Were Trouble, yes,
but I'm going to put in parentheses but not in a bad.
Way. Yeah.
No, not in a bad way. Yeah, she's a shadow daddy.
They're both trouble, but you know what?
That's. Well, yeah, it's for both.
Of them, I know I'm going to go with Wonderland, which is one of
my favorite Taylor stuff songs ever.
It's basically a take on like Alice in Wonderland, how you get
in this relationship and it's just like, it's like stepping
into another world and nothing's as it seems and things like
that. And so to me, that encapsulates
them because it's like they kind of got so wrapped up in each
other that they got sucked into this like scenario where like
they kind of had to have a secret relationship.
And like then like the business stuff was getting entwined.
So it's like we found Wonderland, we got lost in it
like in our relationship, and then like kind of had to get
back to reality to deal with the business stuff.
So I think that encapsulates them pretty well.
That's a very fun song. All right.
So before we go to our listener comments, we have to take a
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All right. And with that, let's jump into
our listener comments. So we'll start first with
Patreon. So first and foremost is Cassie
M, who writes. In short, the ladies can
overplay a script which more than once forgot what they added
while adapting. Because it was like Glee.
Because the novel was much more innocent.
OK, maybe causing characterization that didn't
feel altogether. I agree with that.
The chemistry of LMSY was as good as an affair where the plot
at times made less sense and Lily Bell were a charismatic
side couple deserving of more screen time and less clunky
resolution. Agreed.
And of course, the OST was fire secret deal with its ethno EDM
references. While I prefer the novel to the
TV show, I don't mind watching it once or twice or thrice or :)
Yeah, I know it's so good. Like exactly, that's what I'm
saying. And I agree with the novel.
I prefer the novel. Well, like I, you know, I'll get
into that when I talk about the novel because there are things I
like things I don't like, but so like together they're good.
I, I highly suggest if you haven't read it, go read it
because it really is. It's similar enough and then
different enough to make you like, love it, love aspects of
it, and then appreciate other aspects of the show that aren't
in it. And it's like they're good
comparisons. I would say both very, very fun.
The relationship is so fun both ways.
Awesome. All right.
Our next comment is from Q432. And they said the chemistry of
look, me and Sonia was electric. As expected, they nailed the
yearning tension. Perfect.
Oh my God, that is like their strong suit.
Them and fame are like probably the best at that yearning shit
they're so good at. Well, again, I the shadow daddy
has that like yearning shit down.
It's she's an expert. She should really teach classes.
Q 432 continues. Look Me nailed Iwarin as bold,
strategic, ruthless business heir with emotional
vulnerability. Sonja nailed Maevika as brash,
self reliant and ego driven personality.
Both of them nailed the emotional scenes.
It really did, I liked how they developed assistant storyline
different from novel, but the ending could have been better
for their plot line totally. I got the consensus again.
They just wrote it into the show and I feel like.
They didn't know how to get them back together.
They shouldn't have broken them up because.
Agreed, I think they shouldn't have broken them up in the 1st
place and then we wouldn't have had to do that.
Yeah, they should have just been together the whole time.
I think they were an afterthought in the script and
you know, shit happens when productions are, I don't know,
the create their crazy schedules that they have where they're
like, we put this together in three days, like who knows what
they were dealing with. So like I agree, but like I'm
also I'm glad we got them as a side couple at all to be honest.
Lily was fired with her fighting skills, and Belle was refreshing
she. Was so funny.
She's so funny. Special mention to the sets and
wardrobe of the show. Yes, great.
Job, Thank you. Yeah, I think, you know, like
the the set, like whoever did the scouting locations and like
arranging where they were going to shoot, they picked in
incredible locations, like where they and new ones, yeah, new
ones for the Thai girl I've seen that we haven't seen.
But also like like the business setting were greater, the
greater duty free stuff was happening.
And then like the beach resort they went to, like they just
picked really great. And I's apartment was fucking
awesome. Like the Oriana stuff.
Like, they did an amazing job with the sads and the wardrobe
too. Like they were obviously fancy
ladies who wore fancy clothes, but it wasn't like that
outlandish weirdly over fashionista type stuff.
Like it, it read as businesswoman.
Yeah, for the most part, like appropriate sort of wear.
Sometimes I was like, man, why are you wearing this to work?
But like you know, overall was there was a good wardrobe.
Yeah, Q432 said that it really brought the business air vibes.
Totally. Hair, makeup and clothing like
fitted suits and chic dresses fit the corporate power play
theme perfectly. Totally.
Eyes Wardrobe features serious muted tones like black, dark
brown, burgundy and white. Shadow Daddy.
She's a shadow daddy. And a vampire, reflecting her
composed, strategic and quietly intense nature as the hotel
Empire air. I would say she's, she's pretty
intense. I don't know that it's quiet.
She's pretty well. Yeah.
She's. Very comfortable with her
intensity. Yeah, she's comfortable.
With her intensity, yeah, that's an amazing.
Mae wears bolder, vibrant colors and optimistic styles, flowy
dresses and chic business wear, highlighting her sweet yet
demanding side. Contrasting eyes, restraint
while showing her fragility under pressure.
The dialogues between leads, especially the gay banter.
The best they have the best banter.
Eye flustering May both with looks looks and talks with.
Hilarious to watch. Was hilarious to watch in the
first few episodes. Really was Harmony Secret has
one of the best OS TS. Preach.
And then Q432 also participated in a Big Energy award and Taylor
Swift song. So their.
Big energy award goes to just I Warren existing can't choose one
moment and that is perfectly valid.
Yeah, her existence is big energy.
And then Taylor Swift songs for the show, for I, Warren,
probably the Archer, and especially the part with who
could ever leave me, darling, who could stay?
And it mirrors her guarded heart and your mirroring her guarded
heart. And you're on your own, kid.
You. Yeah, That's a good one.
Yeah. You are on your own, kid.
I always have been. For I in May, Delicate
Mastermind and Labyrinth. Yep, those are all accurate.
Those are good ones. Yeah, definitely.
Delicate. Yeah, like it too.
I don't. I can't remember Labyrinth off
my top of my head, but yeah, thank you so much Q432 for like.
Participating in everything. Yeah, I know that was a great
analysis and great reasons to love harmony.
So thank you for pointing out things that we didn't appreciate
that This is why we ask you guys for your opinions.
All right, continuing the Patreon, we have Zori M who
writes. Look, me and Sonia have one of
the best chemistry, like best actor chemistry and are arguably
the best kissers and Thai girl of that's also a fact because
like the way luck me kisses, it's like she wants to eat your
face. Like she's very good at it.
And also love me plays a yearning character really well.
She was made to be a shadow nanny.
That's all I'm saying. Like she's got the yearning
down. She does.
She's so good at it. Yeah, she should teach classes.
That's what I'm saying. All right, our next comment from
Patreon is from White Cat 112, and their response is vampires.
Again, go watch the reactions. Yeah, you have to watch our
reaction videos on Patreon specifically.
Yeah, on Patreon. Yeah, they are not on the
YouTube highlights. I got it out.
White Cat continues. But really, this was quite a fun
show to watch and yell at the screen at the decisions they
were making. Yes, yes, agreed.
All right, last but certainly not least, from Patreon of BJR
who writes. Even though me and I were the
undisputed stars of the series, I still want it.
I still waited each week to see what's happening with the yam
and G Yes, I became so invested in yam and G and then was very
disappointed to read the novel. Be like, oh man, I don't know
what's going to happen with them.
They're not in here. There is no Yam and G as a
couple. Yam was frustrating.
This is a BJR. Yam was frustrating, but G
remained respectful of Yam's decisions even when they caused
G pain. Their backstories were well
constructed. You can imagine G saving May in
high school and becoming May's assistant slash bodyguard.
Yeah, she's a bodyguard. Let's be honest.
It also seems believable that G would have a difficult time
getting over her crush on May. Oh shit, is that going on?
I must have missed that. I I can see that honestly.
I know there was definitely that where at least looked like it.
Yeah, because it was like she looked very upset seeing her.
Like when she that scene when they're in the car kissing and G
and Yam are like watching like G looks like she's about to sob.
That's true. Also.
She's like, damn, I'm about to lose my job.
I don't know. But yeah, I can say that, okay,
BJR Yam story was too much of A coincidence, but who cares?
Yeah, valid eyes, tremendous character came out in her
treatment of Yam. Yes, my God, yes.
Eye training Yam to be her assistant was one of the more
memorable and heartfelt scenes in the show.
Yeah, we didn't talk about that. That was super cute, very sweet.
And then BGR agrees with us. No wonder Yam ended up loyal to
a fault. Yeah, no, exactly.
I think that Yam was that that part of all of Yams story.
Like I think setting her up as the extremely loyal assistant I
think worked. I agree with you.
There's coincidence in there, but like, I don't care either.
OK. And finally, my big gay energy
runner up award goes to G in a suit.
Oh, my God, yes. G in a suit, that is that is big
energy. Or even dressed casual.
Yes. I is just impossible to knock
out of first place. Yeah, no, like there nobody
beats her in terms of big gay energy.
It's just I, she exudes. It confidently.
I is untouchable but also yes G in a suit Let us hydrate for G
in a suit cause yes thank you BJR.
OK, that wraps up our Patreon comments, and now we're going to
head over to YouTube and our. One and only YouTube Yeah our.
One and only. Our one and only Crimson
Studios. Crimson Studios, who has a lot
to say so. I just want to say before I read
some of this comment, thank you for commenting at all.
Based on how this comment starts off, we appreciate Crimson
Studios and we always love hearing your opinions.
We really do. We really do.
All right, so they said I I don't, but I'm going to be nice
about it and I love that Crimson Studios, I like look me and
Sonia. This was my introduction to
them. I haven't seen a fair yet.
Best of luck to you. But it's similar crazier.
Anyway, have fun spoilers. The opening theme was amazing.
10 out of 10 banger that I listen to all the all the time.
Yes, Iwarn is very gay and I love that but can she?
I get that you like Maple but like there's better ways to do
than forcing yourself on her. It gave me.
Oh, my Citrus flashbacks. Yeah, no, they write her as a
fucking Predator and it pissed me off.
Iwedine is not a predator. Yeah, I didn't like that either.
Crimson Studio. It was very cringy to watch
those scenes. And they continue.
I like the side couple, the two actresses had good chemistry and
I'm glad they are getting a new show together and it looks cute
and up my alley. Look Me Sonia also are getting a
cute show too and I'm looking forward to it.
I'll be brief about why I didn't vibe with it because it's a me
problem I think, but I think it might be interesting to get a
perspective of someone who didn't enjoy the show.
In short, I'm not a fan of rich people.
That's valid. That's valid.
No, it's so valid. There's a lot of tight girl
loves her rich people propaganda.
Or rich people drama. Yeah, but they're just
propaganda. It's a lot of rich people
propaganda to be like, you should feel so bad for them
because they have so much money that their whole life is like
ruined by this ridiculous fucking scenario.
Meanwhile, it's like I'm trying to feed my kids.
Like, you know what I mean? Like if you were to take Whale
Store and compare it to this, it's like these are rich people
problems that like, like the the thing from Kimmy Schmidt, like
your, your experiences are not universal.
Yeah, that's what a lot of these shows are that are centered rich
people. And I'm like, your experiences
are not universal. That does not relate to the show
fully, but like, go watch that The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt
because it is so funny. I'm so glad the aura got me to
watch that show because. It's just a great, it's my
favorite type of humor where it's like this, like quick
witted writing. It's like, yeah, it's a very
unique style of comedy and it's my favorite.
It's a hilarious, but yeah, I'm with you, Crimson Studios.
I feel the same way. I agree with you.
Crimson Studios continues. I can't relate while I also
don't think relating to the characters is necessary for me
enjoying a show. But sometimes it bothers me,
especially when you mix stuff I don't care about like business
with it. That's also fair.
But it's fair. It's fair, honestly fair.
Which I'm clueless about and don't care for.
And I love the honesty that you're saying.
Crimson. Yeah, that's honestly.
Valid, they continue. I also prefer more silly shows
with less drama and about artists or architects.
You love that design, don't you? That we don't, I don't know why,
what they even do. Or scientists.
Or archaeologists. Or farmers.
Anything that is in business, please.
That's honestly fair. That's fair, That's fair.
And the atmosphere of the whole show just isn't my style.
Also fair overall. It's just a taste thing, and
that's fair. And I love that you were able to
remove yourself from it. And they just like be
objectively look at it like, oh, it's just not for me.
But it's not like you're telling other people like this is a bad
show, Like you might like it. I so I love this take on how you
said all of this. So thank you that is.
How I feel about poisonous love. So it is not for me.
OK, Thank you, Crimson Studios. From here, we'll move over to
Twitter, where our first response is from Justin, who
writes my favorite moment. Oh, because we asked why do you
love it? What are your favorite scenes?
So my favorite moment. And then they left a GIF.
And it was a GIF of I being a cheeky bastard in the elevator
and flustering the hell out of May.
So yeah, anytime I would fluster May A+.
Our next comment is from, Look, me Sonia's Addie.
Like attorney. Yeah, got it.
All right. LMS wise like attorney.
Yeah, all right. And they said, bestie, I'll be
tuning in just so I can hear you talk about their amazing OST and
why it is such a pity we never got a music video for A Secret
Deal AKA the unskippable opening.
Yes, thank you for bringing. This up because why the hell
does there no music video for this We have music videos for
most random OS TS. That's true like super random
ones OK that like aren't the opening credits of a series They
just like dropped the midway through the series Where the
hell was the why was there no music video for this?
This is the most music videoable OST ever and there's they're
like the opening sequence. You have to watch the opening
sequence to like get the song. Like that's the closest thing
you get to a music video, which it's a great opening sequence
first of all of every episode. But like really like I feel like
that was an actual crime that there's no music video to secret
deal like a pop song. What the?
Hell yeah, I know. That doesn't make sense.
You could do so much with that song I.
Know it's that's what I mean this is the song that most
compatible with the music video and like there's there isn't
fun. You're their attorney.
Sue them for well, he wants to be key witnesses.
We'll we'll testify because like, that was some fucked up
shit. Yeah, no, it was.
It's the Best Song. Like it really is.
It's just so good. And like, again, they they like
again, Sonia has the voice of an Angel.
Luck me rapping was great. Like they they just complement
each other really well when they have their duets.
And like the song was just so good.
And just again, all the OS DS were phenomenal for this show.
I cannot say that enough. Just all of them are beautiful.
But yeah, sue them. Let us know, all right?
Next we have from Twitter. We have only fax who writes.
One of my favorite moments is when Meiwika calls Iwine when
she's working out in episode 4. That was fucking the way she's
like, put your camera on now, bitch.
And like, I was like, what? Like I guess.
She doesn't know about the bug at that point, so it's like.
Even weirder. It's so weird, but she's such a
whipped shadow daddy. She's like, I guess you want to
look at my abs? She's like, oh, that was
hilarious. She's like, I won't break up
with you if you don't do this right now.
And she's like, this is OK. And you emboss me around the way
I was just like, OK, boss me around.
I guess I got nothing. That was hilarious.
All right, our next comments from PY and they said the
soundtrack in relation to the narrative, the women's bar and
their overall chemistry. Yeah, yes, those are facts
you're saying. Next we have Ray Jor, who writes
the moment in episode this moment in episode 2, and they
put in the screenshot in their reply, which is I in May in the
car right before May kisses. I yes, that scene was awesome
because that's when I was like, yeah, this is as mutual as I
thought it was, bitch. And Major continues this moment
that I just just described as freaking cute and a bit cheeky
because I already tries to make my week a Moody so hilarious.
She does. She tries to she baits her into
kissing her just fucking funny. And then she's like, yeah,
people who are trying to like experiment don't kiss like that.
I'm pretty sure you have feelings.
And she's like, God damn it, bitch.
I mean, I do, but whatever. My favorite part of that scene
is when the they cut to the assistants and the assistants
are like, what the fuck? Yeah, I know that.
That is my favorite. It was so funny.
Good editing joys though. That whole scene is really good.
Although like, I don't understand in that scene why I
would even had to unbuckle May's seat though.
But she was like, and then May's like, oh, wait, OK.
She's like, what you gonna do about it?
I guess kiss you. I don't know what else to do.
There is nothing. Else to do?
There's nothing else to do that was the right answer.
The next comments from Deion, just because it's LMSY, look at
me Sonia, it already makes me excited and that's fair.
That's fair. They're just they have fun
projects. They do.
Next we have Apple de Leon, who writes everything because of
LMSY. So there seems to be a pattern
here and a consensus, yeah. Just a bit.
Just a bit there is the yeah, there's the pattern.
All right, next is from Veru Guti LMSY fan that the series
has if not the best OST of all girl love series, at least one
of the best ones. No, it is the.
It is the best one. You were correct the first time,
but we'll just cosign that. We are putting that.
We need to put that into law. LMS wise attorney, Yes.
It is law, it's Thai girl Aqua. Well, pinky promise on it and
everything. They continue the sets, the
costumes, the authenticity, the acting, everything was spot on.
One of my favorite parts is when I helps May escape from Goin.
Yes. Oh, yes, yes.
Fuck that guy. But yeah, no, that was amazing.
She's like, wait, wait, wait. We can't outrun him because
we're women wearing heels, so we have to fake make out with each
other. Like, yeah, what quick thinking
she had during that whole thing. It was so funny.
Yeah, that was a great scene. The whole the whole sequence,
not just a scene. All right.
And last lastly from Twitter, we have Chana Lie.
Chana Lie 21, who writes. I liked episode 7, the scene
where I finds the listening device.
Oh my God, that broke my heart, man.
Yeah, we all knew in every episode how much I trusted May.
But when she found the device, ISPN was overwhelming and
exploded. I like that scene the most.
That was a. Who hurt you?
Chana Lie 21. Seriously.
But that was a that was such a well done scene.
And like, you're right. It was one of those things that
like I personally, when I was watching, I was like, when is
she going to find this? Is she going to find this?
I don't know. We keep ignoring many things,
like the fact that I drugs Maple, but like I was like, are
we just going to ignore the bug? Are we ever going to find the
bug? And then like so it's always
this like tension point of like when is I going to find the bug?
And then I finds the bug and like her heart breaks and it's
just like that was a it was a good scene.
It was really well done. It was and I just felt so bad
for her foreshadow Daddy was sad.
I don't like what? She's sad.
Oh my gosh. But anyway, OK, so that was
Harmony's secret and why we all loved it.
There's just so many reasons that we cannot possibly
encapsulate them all honestly. So we did our very best to pay
homage to the series. And like I said, we will have an
episode that comes out paying homage to the novel and we'll do
some more comparisons with the series, so.
Read it seriously and check that out for more Harmony secret fun.
And we'll definitely be back to talk about hometown romance
whenever that comes out because that looks so cute, so wild.
It looks so fun. I'm excited for them to get a
comedy because like going from a fair to harmony, Secret Affair
had more comedy in it for the two of them.
So it was like, so like they're escalating the goofiness in
their projects. And so I'm very excited to see
one that's more comedy focused for them because like honestly,
they're both very good at it. Like they do play well together
in comedy, which like not every actors have good comedic timing
with each other and good dramatic timing with each other,
but these two do. So I'm very excited to see them,
like genre shift, basically. I think it's gonna be very fun.
All right. And since not since, If you've
made it this far, we want to know.
And here's a challenge for you to write in the comments.
Your challenge is to answer if Harmony Secret could crossover
with any other Thai girl love show.
We'll just limit it to Thai girl love.
What show would it be? And it can be not one that's not
yet either. Should they put be put in girl
rules? Oh my God, could they handle
girl rules? Damn, that's a hard question.
I don't know, I would have to think on that.
I'm curious to see what you guys come up with because I don't
have one off. Do you have one off the top of
your head? You came up with this question?
Oh no, I literally. Just came up with.
Oh my God, can't let it. Damn.
You know what, I kind of would like to see them crossover with
Whale Store just to kind of like.
What, so they're the villains? No, no.
I think just like maybe like Mentor, like the store, like, I
don't know, somehow. Work together.
There's no way that's working out who All right.
Who is you? Asked me out.
I am. I was like, burn the bridge.
There's no way or though they're friends with Miyana's mom.
Or like what? What if they like create
opportunities for small businesses?
Like what if they use power? I don't know theor.
There's potential, I mean, if they did something else because
like Duty free, the duty free thing is all about luxury
brands, which doesn't vibe with whale stores.
So they would be a competitor in a bad way to Whale store.
And again, Miano would be like, let's burn them down.
Which, you know what, maybe that would make Crimson Studios like
it better if we had the Whale Store fighting up against the
Harmony secret divisions and if we have a real classism story on
our hands. Yeah, honestly, that'd be fun.
Anyway, let us know what you think, leave it in the comments,
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