Hello and welcome to Big Gay Energy.
I'm Bree. I'm Theora.
And I'm Caitlin. Come along with us while we dive
into the fun and nuances of queer media.
Representation matters, and we're here to talk about it.
Alright, and so. Now we will enter.
We will leave the land of reality and move on to the land
of dreams. Oh my God, listen.
So we're moving into lens. Crack.
Non cannon or or crack ships. And the reason if you're not, if
you're listening and don't know why they're screaming, is
because the slide pictures a clown.
Because. Only clowns come up with these
crack ships and you clown your heart out for these ships that
aren't actually happening at the point in time you're clowning
about them. So crack ships, non cannon ships
are an honored queer tradition dating back to the days of yore
when crack ships were the only queer ships we had that were
built on subtext and a dream. Because things like the Hayes
codes existed, which means you couldn't have queer characters
unless they were being portrayed as villains or you couldn't have
queer relationships. All you had was subtext.
Go watch Xena if you don't know what I'm talking about, like,
that's all you're allowed to have.
So, like, crack ships at one point in time or dream ships
were like literally all we were allowed to have.
So it's a time out of tradition. I think they're fun.
So let's get into it. We'll start with one I know you
you both love. Which is this one?
Chloe and Becca from Pitch Perfect.
The minute that Chloe steps into Becca's shower, it's there's no
other way that they can't be queer.
There's no heterosexual explanation.
They came to the freaking precipice of just the the, the
clear burger. Yeah, they definitely did that
in the third season because there is a tape where they
kissed, but yes, there is. And then they they didn't put it
in the Anyway. Moving on, Yeah, So this, this
movie, and. Movies.
Well, I'm saying that this movie sent me on a journey because
although this was the original ship that I got into from this,
I didn't end up with them as my pitch perfect OTP.
Yeah, So I if you, if you ever find this, good luck finding it.
There's fan fiction out there that I wrote with Chloe and
Aubrey. You.
Just gave Caitlin a challenge. Chloe and Aubrey fan fiction is
what I know. All right, so I wrote the chips.
That that's that's the blonde, right.
That's Anna Campbell's, yeah. OK, well yeah, that's also
plausible. That's a big one as well, yes.
So that was and and there's a very epic fan fiction that is a
Chloe, Becca, and Aubrey end game.
You know what? I'm good.
As long as it's. It's very queer.
All it takes is the glance and a shower together and a shit.
Seriously. Like.
The way that Chloe looked at Becca?
Yeah, no, he's. Not the whole time.
The scenes that they put in just and then.
They really played into it and they played into it hardcore.
It was rude. At least give us the the scene
where they kiss as an outtake or something.
Yeah, deleted scenes. The payoff?
We never got it. It's rude, damn it.
They'll forever just be. I think they were one of my
first. I don't know if it was the
first, though. I think Pretty Liars was first
because I was obsessed with that show.
But they were very close to the beginning.
I just can't with the amount of What the fuck?
I didn't understand queer baiting at the time.
I was just like, I want to see them happy.
I will read fan fiction the way the way that she looks at Becca
the entire movie. Yes, yeah, is obviously gay as
hell. Yeah, like there's not Amy
touching and stuff. Like it's not subtle.
Also, Amy should have said let's be honest when Chloe was
talking. Exactly.
Thank you. I'm still really upset about the
fact that they gave Becca. I'm just going to say it.
Jesse was a terrible. I just did not like him.
He was boring. He was not in.
He was not at all. I just didn't like him.
I didn't think he was good enough Love interest for Becca.
Chloe was. And.
After the first season, they kind of like sidelined them,
right? Because.
First movie. It's not a season.
Sorry, I'm so used to talking about TV.
Yeah, pretty much like he doesn't really show up,
especially in the third one. He's not even like.
Yeah, cuz yeah, cuz they. Forget what the seasons are.
What is? Is it like Snoop Dogg and one of
them? Which one is he in?
This wasn't Snoop Dogg. It was.
I don't. Know who these people are.
The. Third one Christmas.
Is that the third one, Christmas?
The Christmas song. Yeah, well, they they go on a
USO tour and it's. What is his freaking name?
The. Second one has the Germans in
it. Yeah, this one.
They got the World Championships.
All I know is we get Hailee Steinfeld.
Oh yeah, Hailee. I think it would get Hailee in
the beginning. That was the second one we get.
The second one. She joined, and now I love her.
I'm so glad she's in it. And then they hold on.
I know that this is about ships, but like they did Hailee so
dirty in the third movie, they gave her nothing.
That's dumb on their part. Oh my gosh.
Then I got pissed that they didn't give her anything.
Anyway, that's it. That's all I'll say.
But Chloe and Becca. Yes, they belong together.
The end. All right, the end.
So we'll move on to probably a ship that only I know I saw.
That when I was recently. Have you seen Hannibal?
No, Okay. So I again, I'm not a horror
person at all. The only reason I ended up here
is because this is Hannibal and Will from the show.
Hannibal are the male version of Villanelle and Eve, and I heard
this comparison multiple times. And then I was like, is it
except Villanelle. And it is, except here's the
difference. Villanelle and Eve from Killing
Eve are technically queer and into each other.
But Hannibal and Will are the subtext version.
But it's the same freaking plot. So if you like killing Eve and
you're like feel a hole in your heart like I do for that kind of
ship, go watch the show. Because not only is it the same
kind of, you know, cop against Merton assassin kind of deal,
it's basically the same fucking show.
It's just that these two guys and their subtext is crazy and
their chemistry is also crazy. Hamill will beautiful love it.
Then go watch Tom and Jerry. No, we leave again, cuz like
it's the same thing. It's just with these two guys
and it's. I'm just stressed.
No all. Right.
All right, so I'm gonna go move on to a more recent ship, cuz
we've been talking about like ships in the past.
This is something that just popped up a few days ago.
So if you haven't been watching the Disney Plus show Ashoka, go
watch it because. There's a Ship of Dreams that
just appeared in the episode 4 that just released.
By the time you get this will be a couple episodes past that in
the show. It's doing weekly releases, but
it's basically a show that follows Anakin Skywalker's
former Padawan Slash learner or whatever.
Ashoka is a Jedi and it's like post all the movies, all of them
and the something LGPDQL GB T is happening with.
Shoka's former Padawan Sabine and Shin.
Who's this? Like Dark Jedi, not a Sith Lord,
but a Dark Jedi. And they're both like learners.
And they did. The thing that I love is they
stared at each other while holding swords and I was like,
what is this? And thus a ship was born And so
at this point spoiler shin has to be in custody.
So now I have to go on a trip together.
So it's like good enemies lovers thing.
And I love it. And I'm sure there's fan fiction
that I can't wait to go find very soon, cuz this just
happened. My favorite point after watching
a show is going to the fan fiction.
I'm like, I have to binge watch a show so I can get to the fan
fiction, so I can read what I want to happen, right?
And the possibilities. So this is my new ship dreams.
It just came to me the other day.
I see the vision. Will Disney go there?
Who the fuck knows. Doesn't matter.
They stare at each other, holding swords, and a ship was
born. It's there for.
It's there for thee. It's there.
I'm not the only one I saw on Twitter post.
It was like the fan fiction that's about to start happening.
See. This person understands, so
check out Asoka. Cuz these two, this is a top
tier crack ship if I ever saw one.
All right. So we'll move on to a.
Crack ship. We actually created and started
talking about this podcast way back when, which is from
Motherland, which was Adele and Gregorio.
And we talked to them a lot because not only do they have
insane chemistry with each other, they deserve better than
like the women that have been treating them like shit in the
show. So I think they're better off
together from a hell. True, I wasn't part of these
discussions, but they would treat each other better.
The ships, the ships between like SIS men and women in this
show needed to be broken up and we need to redistribute.
That's basically our our decision, so.
Yeah, now that these two, the Dillon Gregorio, they would do
way better, I think. Personally agree.
Right, lastly and certainly but
not least. Are we sure?
Actually, it's not. Lastly, so let's get into our
probably one of our favorite sapping crack ships.
That should have been a fucking ship, cuz what were the writers
thinking? Should have been cannon.
Riley and Abby from the happiest from happiest season they.
Have more chemistry than Abby and.
Harper, Harper were in an abusive relationship that we're
supposed to find charming. And then Riley walks into the
picture and makes way more sense for Abby.
They get along so much better. They're supportive of each
other. They're not hiding each other.
No, Riley is immediately supportive of Abby,
understanding. Can, like, read her emotions and
like they're hot together. Look at them like, come on.
I mean, come on, now, they have this saying oh, are.
You thinking, Clea? Damn, some words.
Can we have a discussion about how this should have been the
ship? Like if you'd ended the movie
after they met, I would have been like, OK, that's I see it.
I'm fine like with this. The happy ending was when they
were at Christmas drag they dragged or whatever.
Yeah, put it there like that. Makes sense.
That could have been the end of the movie.
That was the end of the movie here.
Comes. Santa, so we've been forever
about this. If you want to hear more about
our thoughts on this ship, just watch or react.
Like, I think the whole movie, we were just, we were reacting
to it. We were literally just.
It usually just about that. They make way more sense
together, so we won't beat the dead horse at the stake.
Okay, now the last ship which this will make Caitlin laugh,
but I had to. Put it in here which is.
Okay. Which the crack ship from XL P
is the tree Love Ship, which is the the cherry blossom tree in
Kitty's mom. And this is the fucking photo.
What is this photo? Why did she keep?
This so. Anyway.
If you haven't watched the show, the premise of the show is is
based on like Kitty's mom passed away, she went to the school in
Korea, Kitty's in America, and Kitty ends up going to the
school to get a boy. But she's also under the guise
of like my mom was there and I can get closer to her.
So she goes to her mother's photos that were like analog
photos taken by a point and shoot camera that she kept.
As you can see in this photo, if you're looking at this, it was
kept covenantly in like a photo book.
Of mom with whoever she was in love with at the time, who's
hidden by a tree. So it just looks like mom is
happy with this tree and it's this center point of who is this
person. But my question is, my mom, did
you keep this fucking photo? Because it's a terrible photo.
Like just retake the photo. What is this?
So it started this whole tree lore that we went into and all
of those episodes and the reaction videos and so this is
the crash. Too.
We have merch tree love merch that came from this fucking
photo. And so this is a crack ship that
we made merch at. It's a crack ship for obvious
reasons. Because we don't have two drunks
children, at least the ones that Doctor T and Caitlin were on.
We're not on drugs. Can we do an honorable mention
correction? Do it.
I just want to, because you wrote a fan fiction about them.
We're going to get to them. Oh, we're going to.
We are going to move over into OK, so this ends the hour ships
things we've talked about, things we wanted to enter and
we're going to move into the ships that are lovely, listeners
and friends have submitted. We're going to start with cannon
chips and then do crack ships, and that's where the ship you're
talking about is. So I didn't.
Know what they're talking about? Because I rearranged our outline
into a PowerPoint. Gotcha.
Gotcha.
Okay, cool. Let's move to the ships that are
our friends and lovely listeners submitted.
We're starting with the cannon chips.
There are so many, it's very hard to see them all on this
screen. So pick one and talk to Caitlin
and Vie. Caitlin and Vie.
Go for it, Bree. Love it.
We're not familiar what's it from All right so if you have if
you have ever seen played a or what not a video game League of
Legends. There is a series using based on
League of Legends called Arcane and it was on the Netflix or is
on the Netflix. We're getting a season 2 and the
main ship in that show is Caitlin and VI.
VI being a kind of rebel type down on her luck.
And then you have Caitlin who is literally like the high
highfalutin type and is a cop. So very opposite, attract kind
of situation, enemies to lovers type deal except enemies to gets
one kiss type deal. And like I said, we're getting
Season 2. So the development of that
relationship throughout the series was very adorable and
very well done, very well paced. And I love the scene where they
reveal that Caitlin is queer when they're in a brothel and VY
comes, VY comes back and walks by and then sees Caitlin very
cozy with one of the one of the women.
From the brothel and she's just like double takes.
It is like, excuse me, she's the gay.
Well, interesting and that's where it start and that's where
it really starts for VY. And of course they fall in love.
But there's the whole Vi's little sister becomes a villain.
Spoiler alert. And she's really just being
taken advantage of by the main villain.
But they have to basically get their relationship is affected
by the relationship between VI and her sister because she kind
of has to choose in a way. So, but in the end, it's not a
bad ending for season one. In Season 2, hopefully they'll
be more adorableness to come. All right.
So we have that to look forward to.
I'm going to jump to Kit and Jade.
This was the number one submitted ship by all of our
listeners. So they're from the show Willow
that was on Disney plus ran for a season, then was cancelled and
removed from the platform. Because homophobia, They're
basically in this like, fantasy world and their nights together,
they're like childhood friends and then kind of.
End up on opposite sides, ish in a bat.
And like this world kid is like the Princess of one side.
Jade is ends up realizing her lineage is like a leader of like
a rebel group kind of thing. But in the end they're like
bound basically in such a way that like they're together.
So it's like women with swords. Number one, I get it.
Number one, Women with swords. I mean that's really, that's
where it is. And like they kissed theirs and
I love you. And so it's it's very sweet and
everybody loves them. And it was an untimely demise
thanks to corporate greed that kind of ended that.
So very unfortunate. And we did promise to cover this
at some point. We will get there at some point,
I promise. I know so many guys are waiting
for that. But yeah, they're super cute and
thank you for submitting them a lot that show they deserved
better. So it would be.
We feel that loss, Caitlin. We're just gonna go around,
Robin. Think about.
All of them on the screen. Yeah, take a go.
So I will do Cali in Arizona next.
I knew you were gonna do Cali in Arizona.
Well, just because I know their entire story.
I know I've just. Watched it all.
We'll just keep it brief. Yeah.
No, no, I'm trying to. We got lots to go to get through
here. We don't wanna.
This go on forever Okay. So Callie and Arizona from
Grey's Anatomy that both are surgeons.
We've seen Arizona, no Callie's journey more than Arizona, but
basically Arizona comes in as a pediatric surgeon I believe and.
Eventually they, Cali and Arizona get together and
everything is fine and dandy. And even when Cali gets pregnant
with another dude's baby, Arizona's like, OK, oh parent,
even though she didn't want children.
See, like, that's the way to do it.
Like. I mean, they're like.
And Super girl. But they broke up for that long
period of time where I was like, excuse me, Yeah, I mean, that
wasn't great, But then it went down even more once the plane
crash happened. Spoiler.
In Grey's Anatomy, it all went downhill after that plane
crashed. Because the plane crashed, it
changed Arizona's personality with 180 for while.
And I mean, I get that she's adjusting to a lot of different
things, but it just crashed their relationship and from
there they like, I don't know if they were they.
Married at the time? At which time, yeah, they they
did get married because they got married when Sophia was like a
newborn. So they ended up after the car,
the plane crash, dealing with all of that.
They move into another house and they they're just like not
working out. They end up splitting, living in
the same house though, and eventually Callie ends up
dating, I believe, the Doctor Who killed one of the main
doctors. Not intentionally, but why is
the show like this? Yes, and this is like a very,
very light version of it. OK, so they end up moving to New
York because of the other doctor's job, I believe.
And so Arizona is left there and she's still in the show while
Callie is written out, which I'm not over.
And then eventually Arizona goes out there to be in New York, to
be with Cali. Oh my God.
I keep. It's okay.
I know what's happening because you have Cali on Arizona and
Arizona on Cali. So it's confusing the shit out
of my brain. It's okay.
I'm sorry. That's what's going on, though,
just so you know. So yeah, they've had a rocky
journey. I didn't really like how they
ended up and we never see them again.
Are they technically together in the end?
I think, well, they're at least coparenting out there because
OK, so Sophia was really struggling.
Sophia wanted to come back and live with Arizona, So she came
back to Washington. Yeah, yes, Seattle and.
But after like one year, like even a few months, she was like
struggling there. So Arizona is like the only
thing, like, we need to take her back to New York, and I'll just
go with her so I forget if they're actually together.
But I know. They're in the same place,
right? Sounds.
Like they life off, they're in each other's lives kind of
thing. Nicole and Waverly.
Yes, this ship. I love this.
Yeah, freaking OK. I love them so well.
Winona, Herb I love the show overall and love the ship.
This is like. Gosh, this is an epic ship,
honestly, especially with the community from the jump there.
I mean from the when the she walks into that bar and is all
sexy as hell. Yes, it is.
And of course they the circumstances by which that
shirt gets wet we have. To Oh my God, so contrived.
Whatever, I'll take it. That's the the point was it is
contrived and we love it. Yes, we do.
They have a very long and epic relationship spanning all the
seasons for. Yes, all the all the seasons.
The all the seasons is and they are just.
I never stopped loving what they did with those two.
Me too. They put a bulletproof vest on
the coal. They did.
They made a statement about bury your gaze and great job.
Emily. I love her.
Emily. Yes.
So I drink for Emily. We love you, girl.
Yes. Bulletproof vest.
Yes. And.
And that was during Slash, right after the Klecks of Shit, which
I will jump to next. Because yeah, Emily's like,
yeah, we're not killing the lesbian in the show, just so you
know. Even though she's a cop, which
yeah, I love them, they're very sweet and wholesome and they
have a good relationship where like they just support each
other and it's beautiful. Exactly.
Love them. Have read so much fan fiction
about them. Just love them all right?
So as promised, I will move over to another Titanic ship, the
Ship of Dreams, The bitanic Lexan Clark.
Because that ship. That was a ship of dreams and a
partially, and there was fucking conventions made because of the
way Alexa was done so fucking dirty in that damn show.
I I stopped watching after they killed her in a in a obvious and
pointless barrier gayest fashion.
But if you're not familiar and you stayed away from the 100,
Caitlin, even though the name of the fucking show is the 100, and
you don't pronounce 100 hundred, you pronounce it 100.
Whatever. I'm sorry, that's not the name
of the show. That's how you read what's
written. That's not what they say.
But how do you read that number, 100?
How do you read that? I'm going off the proper way to
say it, the OR. I know, but if you're reading
it, it's a number. It doesn't matter.
So Clark, basically the purpose of the show, the reason why
there's a #100 people essentially are sent down from
the space colony to try and reinhabit the earth.
And they're all children because this is a YA story.
And Clark is on the ship with the gang of refugees or
whatever, and they end up on Earth because a nuclear
explosion happened. It's hundreds of years later,
and they're like, and we live, I don't know.
So let's send these kids. So the kids get there and try to
like Lord of the Flies, this situation where they're trying
to, like, figure out how to live here.
Meanwhile, people have been there the whole fucking time.
And the people are led by Lexa, who's in charge of everything.
And so Clark and Alexa, like leaders of their people, end up
in this political scheme with each other, and they end up
falling in love. It's like the main point but and
it's epic. And Alexa's devotion to Clark is
beautiful. Clark's devotion to Alexa, the
entire show, even after she's killed like that, was her like
her OGP in the end, because they really fucked up with killing
her, which was really stupid. Their relationship is so
beautiful and stupid. I forget how great it is, and
then I'll go back and just watch the calculation videos of them
and I'm like, that's why I hurt so bad.
For me, the reason I loved them so much as a ship was because it
was like the first time I ever saw like like a safic couple or
a queer couple really where they were both like on they were both
on equal footing, like there was really no power imbalance
between the two of them. They were both leaders in their
own right, respected in their own right.
And like, I loved that about them.
They were just both really strong women who independently
kind of like, they found they found that kinship in each other
because because of like, you know, they were both leaders and
like had a lot of responsibility and other people's lives
weighing on them. And we're in these impossible
situations and they still found a way to, like, love each other
despite all of that stuff. So I just really loved their
relationship. It was so beautiful.
And the killing of Lexa was so fucking stupid.
I'll never. I'll never be over it.
I understand the I was there with the outrage.
It was fucking stupid. I remember watching it and just
laughing and being like, are you serious right now?
This can't be real. This can't be real.
And it was real and it was fucking stupid.
I. Didn't go to work the next day.
I was so like, just fuck. I was so depressed after that
and not I for me, I have. Clark is the exact kind of
character that I fall in love with instantly.
That person, that everyone that is like, oh wait, everybody's
just all of a sudden like following me because I am.
The apparently didn't even know it.
But I'm the leader and is just so stoic and but emotional when
needed and just the way that. Those two related to one another
because oh God, the the line that they have when they finally
do get together is like maybe when your people and my people
no longer need us, we can have what we want, which is each.
Other motherfucker Rottenberg. OK, yeah, that line.
But. What kills me is before that
that whole bedroom scene is when I couldn't even let them have
this. It is when Alexa is literally
about to be like because I love you and she's like because
you're you. Yep, like that killed me.
Like that is the best way to say I love you ever.
Cuz it's like it's Alexa admitting that like.
I love you for exactly who you are.
I'm not trying to change you, which is what everybody else is
trying to do to Clark and like all that stuff.
She's like, I just love exactly who you are.
And like, they couldn't even let her fucking say it, man, after
they were knew they were gonna kill her off.
And it's the fucking bullshit. It's the same okay, it's the
same recipe as the Tara Willow shit because they literally
finally just get together. They finally do the thing. 3
minutes later they stray bullet kills Alexa.
Same thing happened to Tara. 3 minutes later they're all happy.
Stray bullet kills her. It's the same fucking recipe and
it pissed me the fuck off. But yeah, I was like, I've seen
this film before and I didn't like the ending then and I
fucking hate it now. So it was tragic and we hate it.
But they are a Titanic ship. For me, because they will live
on it. For me too, that it was a once
in a lifetime ship and at the Ship of Dreams, that's what we
all wanted and we're looking for.
And it was fucking sung by goddamn iceberg.
I'm sorry, the show didn't for me.
The show didn't exist after they did that.
Nope. Did.
Not at all. Even when fucking Alexa comes
back in the, yeah, City of Light or whatever, Did I watch it?
Did I watch it? Do I accept it?
No. No.
Fuck that. Exactly.
Season four was my favorite season, no.
No. No, I didn't watch it beyond
that. I watched the City of Light
scenes. That was the end of it.
But The thing is, remember, I'm not watching any of this live.
So. The whole show was problematic,
to be honest. Sure was, but I have a crack.
Ship for that show that I've just forgot, but now I remember
Octavia and Raven. I knew you were gonna say that.
I knew. Oh, that's a good one.
I'm more for Raven and Clark's mom.
I'm here. For that ship.
Oh yeah, actually. I love that ship.
Oh my God, that one's here. That ship.
Oh, that one was because. I did like Octavia and Lincoln.
They were a cute ship. I like them.
He was done. Dirty, but they did him so dirt
that was. They did him.
So, like, yes, that was another problematic thing that they did.
Oh my God. But yeah, Raven and her mom.
Raven, Octavia, Raven and Clark's mom.
I'm here for that. Raven had chemistry with the
dance. Cover.
Yeah, Raven. She's like the tally Craven of
the show. Yeah.
Yeah, I shipped that one too. My gosh, yeah, I forgot about
the Clark's mom. I shipped them hard.
I have to say, I only know one more of these ships, I actually.
Have another one, unless it's the one you're thinking.
Go go go. No, I mean, I only know, I'm
saying of the ships left on the slide, go ahead.
And it's basically based off of a actually not.
It's Raven and Anya. Oh yeah, that is one as well.
That's a good one. I loved Anya.
I love that actress. The actress that plays Anya,
she's great. But those two, Yes, please.
Raven with everybody. Raven with everybody.
Like Pali. Yeah, it's a Cali with
everybody. All right, where you pick your
next ship, Unless you're sold cats.
Wait, hold on, let me pick one of these first.
Yeah, and that'll actually. There we go.
So I'll do Lena and stuff next, unless that's the one you know.
No, the one I know is Root and Shaw.
I figured, yeah, go, all right, I'll do Lena and stuff since I
think I'm the only one who really knows it.
So Lena and stuff are from the Fosters.
Lena is, I believe, a caseworker in the beginning, but becomes a
principal at the high school. Steph is a cop.
They are wives, I think from the very beginning.
And then they renew their vows in vows, vows in the middle of
the show. But they are foster parents.
They adopted two kids and then they bring in, they have Steph
has one kid from another marriage, she was married to a
guy and then they have new foster kids that they didn't
really want but they kind of got forced to have.
And so basically it's just them being very domestic the whole
time, dealing with normal life. And this was basically one of
the first representations I saw because again, this is around
the same time as Pretty Little Liars.
So I just saw like two women marry together and just living
their life with a family. And just I don't.
I don't think I understood at the time how important it was
for me to see that, even though it didn't register that much.
But it was so normal in their life and it was never a big
thing for them. Yeah.
It was great. Yeah.
I remember the permit when this first came out.
Like, yeah, that the whole premise was a very big deal,
like you're saying. And it's important to see like,
again, your relationships and all the facets, including just
married and navigating life. Yeah.
All right. Bree, do you want to go to
shoot? So shoot, OK, I want to be a
completely 100% with with everyone.
Did I? I basically skipped everything
in Person of Interest except for their story because was not
interested. I thought, as you said, I'm not
watching the show. And I was like, what's this?
Yes, exactly that what happened to me.
I was like, I'll watch it because it has Amy Akron and
Sarah Shahi. So start watching the show and
then after a while I'm like bored of the show but want more
of them so. Anyway, their storyline is also
one of those tragic, epic type things where you can tell that
they should be together, but they just keep not being
together for reasons, you know, good reasons, but still reasons
that I don't agree with. And in the end, there's a whole.
There's a whole like the scene where she's basically.
In a simulation and. Yeah, the happy episode.
The happy episode where Shaw's in a simulation basically, and
there she's like about to kill herself And then roots like,
listen, bitch don't be doing that.
And then she's like, well, if that's the case it's just a
really good saying, just go, don't like, you don't have to
watch person of interest just go just up the compilation of their
team. Watch that.
Great. It's great.
And I will say the thing so Rutten Shah are like enemies to
lovers. Yes, enemies to lovers.
What makes them beautiful and wonderful and amazing is that it
wasn't planned. They were written into the show
because the actors had such great chemistry.
The writers were like, let's explore this and boom, an epic,
beautiful organic ship was born exactly into Canon because they
had the balls or the ovaries or whatever to actually explore
these actors that had crazy chemistry and.
I fucking they're, they're epic. Another Titanic trip.
They were fucking epic. And I just love them.
They're, they've got all the things they've got.
They're playful and they're, you know, I love them.
The sarcasm, the playfulness, the best act.
And they can. Kick ass.
Look at everything. I love.
Shoot so much fan fiction. I've read about them.
They're so fun. I will knock out the last two,
starting with Tyesa and Van. From Yellow Jackets, you're like
you take too long to. I'm just going to go real quick
so we will get into the Yellow Jackets at some point.
When the strike is over. I very much promise, but
basically promise of the show is that the soccer team gets
stranded due to a plane crash in the woods and Tyesa and Van are
on the team and are dating before the plane crash.
So like, they're not out, but they're together and things
happen when they're young and we don't know the full story yet,
but I anticipate at some point they break up and then.
When they're older, kind of get reunited when things start
happening, but they're really cute and really supportive of
each other as kids through this crazy, tragic event, even though
Van shouldn't be alive. But that's another story.
Yeah, I mean, none of them should be alive, but Van is
played by what's the actor's name, Liv.
Live who is not? I believe he was a non binary
actor who's fucking awesome. I love everything that they're
in and they have great chemistry together.
So thank you for suggesting this ship and telling me the ship
name. I never heard their ship name
before Ivan. They're cute in adult and
childlike form, and The Last Ship is one of my all time
favorites and that's Greta and Carson from Believe Their Own.
Played by Abby Jacobson and Darcy Cardin, who are like best
friends in real life. And you can tell that they have
really, they have a lot of trust in each other as actors, and
they're basically the central ship intentionally in the league
of their own show. We have Greta, who's like the
femme fatale, who's like conforming hardcore to
femininity and what it means to be a woman in the 1940s, to hide
the fact that she's queer as fuck.
And then you have Carson, who finds out that she's queer along
the journey when she meets Greta and gay panics and questions
everything in her life. And they're just fun because
they go through all the at least Carson goes through the stage of
just figuring her stuff out. They're very supportive of each
other for not just this, but because they haven't.
They're playing baseball together, and there's other
reasons that they're banding together, but the chemistry is
just great. Like, these two are great
friends, like the actors in real life.
And it shows and. I don't want them to be a
Titanic ship because they fucking cancelled the goddamn
show and they're like, well they won't they situation, but what
we have of them is really beautiful.
There's many scenes of just them being in love and cute and
living their life, and I love that about them.
And all the clears in that show are all.
You can fill up an entire slide with just that show, but we're
going to highlight. Just them.
They're great. Continue writing fan fiction,
people. Yeah, keep writing fan fiction
to keep us all alive. That's one we've talked about.
Speaking of fan fiction, let's move over to the ships that only
live in fan fiction, which is the crack ships.
Crack ships from our viewers. Who wants to go first?
Okay, you go first. Guess who I'm going to think?
Calder Yeah, is. That okay, of course, go so
Tally and Sarah from Motherland. For Salem, the ship, that was
just obvious. Because look at the way they.
Look at each other, Can we? Explain this scene for people
who may not understand what they're looking at.
OK, so Tally has a dream and in the dream we get sexy as fuck
Sarah Alder and how her dream. It's like the first time we've
seen her hair down. Slinging whiskey being hot as
fuck. And then she's caressing set
Tally's face and they're inches apart from each other.
This is Tally's dream. So she's conjuring all this
image of Sarah acting like this. Which says a lot about Tally.
And so from the scene a ship was born.
Because girl, what you dream about the photo on the screen is
of Alder having her hand on Tally's cheek.
OK, this isn't photoshopped. This isn't an actual photo.
This. Is the scene from Tally's dream.
There's no heterosexual exclamation for the way this
dream went down. And then Miss Tally Grieman.
Another scene is when Tally's looking in the mirror as like
literally, it has her hand on her boobs and Sarah just walks
in like everything where. It should be the thing that
happened. So I'm here for those ships.
I'm probably with fanfiction from that scene.
There's so much fanfiction, and for good reason.
Look at them. They're great.
Age gap. I'm here for age gaps that are
not teachers. Power dynamics.
Because Sarah let's tally. So all there.
But Sarah let's tally get away with this is so much shit.
The way that she talks to her should never be allowed.
Here we are. Here we are.
Yelena and Kate listen. We can eliminate.
This is one of those other ones where I didn't need to watch the
rest of the show. I just.
I came for Yelena and I stayed for both of them just because I
I love the character and I love the the actor.
And then these two together. What the what?
It just you see them on screen and it just watch their scenes,
watch their scenes. It's bananas.
It's it's Marvel. We've got a Black Widow.
It's Hawkeye. So you've got you've got Kate
Bishop, who is kind of like the not understudy.
What am I trying to say, the student of, shall we say of
Hawkeye the the next archery? The next prodigy of Marvel
goodness. And then you have, you know, one
of the Black Widows, which was come on, Natasha's sister
Yelena. Who is?
I mean, if you didn't see Black Widow, that whole movie is worth
watching just for her scenes. But the whole thing I enjoyed
very much. But these two have the humor.
The physical, the physical comedy.
Like, I didn't expect that to be such a delightful aspect of
their scenes together. And the chemistry is just
insane. So tonight of 10 love them.
I am not a huge Marvel fan, but I am someone who saw the gift of
them staring at each other on the roof.
And I was like, how do I watch whatever this is?
And I went and watched the whole show because these two were
staring at each other on a roof with weapons.
Here we are. It was my favorite Marvel show.
I just like Haley in general, killed it.
And like those two together were great.
But Haley, I love her. And yes, I have written fan
fiction about them. It's probably 1.
That's a wonderful fan fiction. I'm most proud of is the two of
them. Mostly because I want to see
these actors play love interests, because they're
really good together. Kate also asked her out for
drinks in the middle of the show, like when they're
fighting. So like, Benji must been
proposed. But there are some people out
there who argue against shipping them because there's an argument
that Elena is like an ace character in like, the comic
Canon, which I don't know how like.
I don't know if that's really been confirmed.
I think it has been maybe confirmed or mentioned as a
possibility by some of the writers of the comic books.
So I get that. For me it's more about I like
these actors. Yeah, it's the actors.
And I think they're compelling characters, cuz it's like
enemies, the lovers kind of thing at the crack ship and they
have things in each other that are complementary to one
another. So I love that about them.
I will pick. I'll just go over the two
Stranger Things ships that are on here.
Thank you for submitting them. So there's Robin and Nancy and
Steve and Eddie. And basically in the very last
season of Sandra, things that came out, this is new members of
like the Kid gang. Basically, Robin is actually
like a lesbian canonically in the show.
Nancy's been there the whole time.
Steve's been there the whole time, and Eddie is like a new
character for the last season. Just go watch them.
Both of these people have crazy chemistry with each other and
their actual love interests. I'm here for them.
Let's make it clear because it's it reads as such.
Just look at the look at them staring at each other.
But they're fun. I like them.
They're like the parents of the group.
And so, like, let the dads be dads, Let the moms be moms.
That's all I'm saying. Bree, do you know both of these
other shows or only one? There's.
Three more. There's three more, the one
that. I know Karen and Lena and I I
know Jess and Lupe, but I don't know the back story of the crack
ship. All right, so I will do
Wednesday and Enid then. Oh, I know them too, but oh OK.
I just wanted to figure out which one I should do.
With coverage, take your OK, so Wednesday and Enid.
Oh, I love this share to lovers that not actually but like in
our heads. In our heads, yes.
So Wednesday gets sent to Is it a boarding school?
Yeah, sure. Yeah.
Yeah, it is. It is.
And she's given this very peppy roommate who's completely
opposite of her. And they go through this whole
thing, they become closer. Enid gets Wednesday's
personality out of her more. It gets her to, like, basically
willingly stay at the school and they're going to end up together
one day. I agree there is another season.
I don't know when that's gonna happen, but.
There is a hug, Yeah. It's like Wednesday showed the
most amount of affection for Enid out of everybody.
Exactly. The love interest sheet even.
The love interest. I forgot there's a love
interest. There's a love interest, but
personally, like, I like them together but also at the same
time from like like Wednesday Adams.
Was never romantically involved or had any inclinations of
romance ever in the work that perceives this.
So she's often read as like an asexual character.
So in a way I kind of like wish they would have stuck with that,
or maybe I still will. Yeah, they they could.
But now that Netflix is like, this is the new Stranger Things,
we have to keep heads watching. I don't.
Think they will? Even though, like, even though
that's why they had a male love interest immediately.
It's like Wednesday is not a romantic character.
Like, she very much reads as an asexual character.
So like, that kind of made me mad that they did that.
And I'm like, if you're going to do it, make her queer at least
and like, give her and Jenna Ortega's for it.
Who wouldn't be? Yeah.
So yeah, I say don't give Wednesday love interest.
And if you do it should be Enid in the.
Screen. All right, so let's move on.
I'll do Jess and Lupe from The League of Their Own.
Is it a crack ship? I don't know.
I'm here for the two of them because they're our Monos.
They're the best. You have mask presenting
lesbians slash Jess. I don't know.
You can always read Jess as like a non binary kind of character.
Which is even better and I want them to Co parent SD because
they basically do anyway and they.
Should. Yeah, and that's where the ship
came from. It's they're Co parenting SD and
it's just they're a happy little cute little family.
So I'm here for Jess Lupe. I'm a big fan of that ship.
I also just individually love each of those characters.
For me and I would if they can't have, if I can't have them, let
them have each other and Co parent SD.
That's all I. Think you did.
That reminded me of the storyline because I kind of
drifted to the back of my mind. But yes, now I remember.
Yes they did. Oh.
Parents, let's let's bring it home with.
Super Corp oh geez, here we go. The crack ship of crack ships.
It's like stands above.
The rest is the. Talk about being faded for how
many years? I didn't.
I never saw it. Maybe I'm blind.
I mean, I just don't ship them, so maybe I just chose like, not
to see it. God, yeah.
No. I I I see the vision.
I see it. I get it, Cara way too.
They're way too Cara's very like that with a lot of people,
though. Not even that to the extent Lena
isn't, though. Lena isn't, yeah.
So it's. Weird that she's always and like
is more of her gravitating. Yeah, yeah, so that's where it
is. Like they're constantly in each
other's orbit, and though they shouldn't be so it's got like
enemy salons. Did we mention this is from
Supergirl yet? Car and Lena from Supergirl.
I love their fan fiction too. I said Supergirl.
So, OK, Supergirl. And listen, Lena Luther.
Let's just let's just also, they're just beautiful people.
There's that too. And they're beautiful together.
So I was. I was for it.
But the show turned me off after a while, so.
Yeah, me too. Me too.
I got once the Monelle shit started happening.
I couldn't with the show anyway exactly cuz they destroyed.
Supergirl at the expense of this man.
And I was like, exactly. Especially when you start the
show with Oh my God, who runs cat?
Cat, Who runs cat Cord or whatever.
You can't start with her, who's like she should be in a ship but
come like, damn, you can't throw with that woman.
Have her leave and then give us a man as a replacement.
I don't think so. There's also a ship with her and
Carl Cat and. Carl, there was.
But I don't. Vision.
Mono. Let's tell you, he doesn't exist
for me. So yeah.
No. That was terrible.
I can do Super Corp I'm here for it.
I'm here for it. Love it, all right.
Make you gay. Make things gay.
I mean, I'm all for being gay. I'm just like, it's not one of
my favorites. Yeah.
No, totally fair. Totally fair.
All right, cool. So to conclude this.
I just want to say thank you to all the fans and thank you also
for giving us if your ship wasn't mentioned, it's because
their ships we're not familiar with enough to talk about.
No, I know. So we were given many, many
ships and now we have new. Hoping Josie.
I ship them for hardcore. I hardcore watch legacies for
them. Someone didn't tell us that soon
enough, yes. I'm sorry.
I guess do you want to tell us? How is he?
Listen. This was tragic that they did
not just follow through with this because it was so obvious
and so, so there that Oh my God, they've like even have that
scene where Josie talks about how she had a crush on Hope when
they were kids and then they're like, oh, really?
And then they just fucking didn't do anything with it.
That is some bullshit. I understand why everybody's
mad. Gave Josie a dumb love interest
and Josie's first love interest was was okay.
I liked her and she left for a good reason.
She was like, listen, you are like not in the place where we
can do this and I am in a place where I would need you to
actually commit so TTFN. So at least they ended that one
Well, but they've screwed. Hosey over.
Just saying the end. Very sad.
Very. Sad.
Obviously there's like way too many ships to actually, I'm sure
we missed so many because we can't talk about all of them.
I mean, there's even more in the show that I went off about in
the next last episode. But anyway, there's also just
one more. I promise not much.
Grey's Anatomy Season 19, Yasuda and Helm, they finally got
together and I'm so happy. That's it.
Go watch it. Oh yeah and watch the the non
binary character. I love the non binary character.
I watched the scenes with them in it.
Oh yeah, those two as well. Those two?
I loved that. Anyway, go on next.
Yeah, there are many, many trips you can talk about.
So I want to thank you guys for submitting these ships excluding
Hosie that Bree's familiar with so.
Sam and Mon from Gap, the series.
We will be covering Gap the series, we promise.
So we are going to get to know this ship, Ellie and Dina from
The Last of Us. I anticipate this ship will show
up in the next season of the actual television show.
So we will absolutely want 100% talk about this ship when it
happens on the screen. But if you're into the ship or
want to know more about it, please come to our discord,
because a friend of ours wrote a literal essay about them that's
beautiful and amazing, so go read it.
And Blake and Yang from RWB Why, which I wasn't familiar with.
So thank you for introducing us to new ships that we can start
shipping, because there's a lot of them and we could never talk
about all of them, like Caitlyn said, But we did our very, very
best to at least give an intro or an explanation about ships.
Our favorite ones, your favorite ones, and everything in between.
So before we sign out for today, it is time to hydrate for
lesbian Jesus. So how much would you hydrate
for ships? 1000 Woo.
All the water in the ocean. Yes, the all the water on earth
in general, because they have kept me alive.
So may your ships stay afloat with this hydration for lesbian
Jesus. Woohoo.
I've got my my ship on. I've got a ship on my water
bottle. Got a ship on your ship.
So thank you everybody. I hope you learned something.
I hope you had fun. Like Caitlin said, we absolutely
missed ships because we can. There's not enough time to do
this. So if we missed one.
Or you come in the discord and talk to us about it.
Yes, come in the discord. Talk to us.
Hit us up on social media. We appreciate you.
For everybody that participated with their ships or what they
love. What they love about ships.
Yes. Thank you.
Thank you.
This pod, this episode wouldn't be possible without you.
So thank you everybody. So keep on shipping and until
next time, hydrate for lesbian Jesus and gay it up all over the
place. Bye, bye.
And with that, we've been big gay energy.
If you like this episode, check out all our other episodes on
whatever you're using to listen right now.
If you're listening on Apple, we'd really appreciate it if you
left us a review. No matter how brief, it helps us
get into Apple's algorithm to reach a wider audience.
Please feel free to reach out to us.
We would love to hear from you about everything and anything.
You can find us on all the social medias at Big Gay Energy
Pod or e-mail us at Big Gay Energy pod@gmail.com.
If you'd like to make friends with other queer media loving
people, reach out to us to join our Discord server.
If you'd like to support us, check out our Merch store or
join our Patreon for early access to episodes, exclusive
content, and so much more. Until next time, stay safe and
hydrate for lesbian Jesus.